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Welcome to Husky. Talk, thank.
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Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
I I appreciate you having me. Sorry for the long intro.
Yeah, I'm, I'm excited to have you.
I've heard, I've heard so much about you and it's good because
I don't know your story. So this is going to be a chance
for for me to learn and for everyone else to learn as well.
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Sure, absolutely. Just for So I Know, did you get
an opportunity to watch any of the UConn games this past
season? Yeah, I was able, you know, I, I
tried my best to see if I could,you know, I try to catch a few
games. I, I'd do my best to try to
follow them and, you know, I, I know that they had a really
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successful year and they're really moving in the right
direction. I was able to catch the bowl
game a little bit and but you know, they've, they've, they've
looked pretty good, I have to say.
And I'm kind of excited to see what they do in the next couple
of years. Yeah, yeah, I I thought the same
thing. After they struggled in 2023,
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they definitely came out this year and performed very, very
well. The quarterback situation, I
think Joe Figiano has another year, which is good.
OK. Great.
Yeah, I I think I think they gotto go with him.
I know Nick Evers was the guy they brought in, but Joe kind of
prove that he's the man. The running game is solid.
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The defense, they lost some key starters with Joni Stafford and
Jaden McDonald, Malik Dixon, Williams, But hopefully, I mean,
they got a good class. We were, Dave and I were
reviewing the film of the transfers and the freshmen that
are coming in and they definitely did a great job.
And I give Mike Burton all the credit.
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You know, he runs the NIL Collective Store Central, which
helps football. And then obviously, Mr.
D'amelio, Mark D'amelio does an outstanding job helping, helping
us raise money. So your story, where does it
begin? Where are you from initially?
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OK, well I'm from Hamden, CT. Oh, OK.
Next to New Haven, Yeah, right. Next to New Haven, I love
Hamden. Yeah, absolutely.
So grew up right there, went to Notre Dame High School, which is
an all boys. School.
Oh yeah, they're good. They're in West Haven primarily.
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My mother sent me there just mostly for behavioral issues.
At first. But but honestly, it was
probably the best thing that ever happened to me, to be
honest with you. But so, you know, played it,
played at Notre Dame, you know, did track and football and then,
you know, was blessed to have anopportunity to play football at
UConn, which again, was a the second blessing in my life.
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And I think, you know, I much I,I needed UConn football probably
more than they needed me at thatpoint in my life.
So that was, that was amazing. And I, I mean, I, I really can't
complain. I had such a great experience
through the whole process. It's been a mess of incredible
people played, played football and, and, and it's been, it's
been nothing but great. Kind of set me up for the rest
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of my life, to be honest with you.
Did you? Did you play early on as the
youth? Did you?
Were you someone who played whenyou were 8-9 years old?
Right away? I I started playing in 7th
grade. Oh wow.
Yeah, we started playing. You started late.
OK. Yeah, it's a funny story.
My two really good friends growing up both went to UConn.
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So when I was in 7th grade and started playing football, our
quarterback was Scott Burrell. I don't know if you know Scott
Burrell. He played basketball at UConn.
He was a quarterback, yeah, yeah.
Oh my God, so Scott and I were really good friends.
I moved to Connecticut in halfway through my 5th grade
year. So when I started playing
football, Scott and I met and you know, we played football
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together and basketball togetherand some different things.
And so he ended up going to UConn, obviously, to play
basketball. And then?
You know, at Notre Dame, I, one of my really good friends,
Johnny Regain, he played baseball at UConn.
So it's really interesting that two of my very good friends,
both, you know, both. Ended up there.
Which was really cool, yeah. Oh good, so maybe you can get
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Scott Burrell to come on the show for.
Me, I'll reach out to him. Oh my God, I cannot.
Believe I still keep in touch with him.
Yeah, I still keep in touch. Was he a good quarterback?
Oh, unbelievable. He was just a tremendous
athlete. He.
Was unbelievable. Yeah, he was.
He was a great quarterback, obviously a great pitcher and
obviously a great basketball player.
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But no, I yeah, we, we, yeah, yeah, he's from Hamden.
We, we, we keep in touch some. Well, I played with his brother
Abbott. So Abbott was a senior my
freshman year at UConn. So his brother played football
with me. You know, I played football with
his brother for a year. Oh, OK.
OK, so you started in 7th grade and you started in Pop Warner.
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So I mean, when you play later, it's a little bit difficult to
pick it up. How did you feel picking up the
game? How did you feel getting hit?
Did you did you like it? Did you love it from the start
or did it take some time? Yeah, You know what, I'd always
wanted to play football as a little kid.
And so, you know, 7th grade Pop Warner was my first opportunity.
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I I think I fell in love with itright away, to be honest with
you. You know, you know, and Pop
Warner, you know, the, you know,the bigger kid, I was a
defensive end and I was like a running back and a receiver.
And, you know, I played all these weird positions that I
ended up not playing, you know, in high school.
But you know, it, it was a lot of fact.
I was a defensive end as Scott Burrell was an outside
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linebacker. It was just, yeah, it was, it
was pretty funny. So, you know, we're just tall
and skinny, that's all. They they just threw you all
over. Yeah, we were the one of the
taller kids, so they put us overthere.
But no, we had a lot of fun and you know, after playing 7th and
8th grade with Scott and Pop Warner, he ended up going to
Hamden High School and I went toWest Haven.
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So we were rivals and we played each other Thanksgiving,
Thanksgiving Day, which. Was that was the big game.
That was the bowl game. I remember because I, I
actually, I coached at Windsor. So I I.
Remember Awesome. I remember the Thanksgiving
games being just That was the bowl game.
That was the huge rivalry. It was like rivalry.
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Everyone loved it. Yeah, so we got to play against
each other a little bit. Played against each other.
So he now there's Hamden and there's Hamden Hall, correct?
Is that how it works? Hamden.
Hall. That's the private school, yeah.
This OK Hamden High is the public school.
That's where. Scott So he went to the public
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one, OK Yeah. And and then you played one year
West Haven and then ended up over at Notre Dame.
I actually played in Notre Dame all four years.
Notre Dame. Is in OK?
Yeah, OK, OK. So I played there, you know,
since my freshman year, yeah. Now, did you did you like Notre
Dame? I mean, it's got it.
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It's got to be a different experience because you got to
wear a uniform and yeah. I did not.
No, it's very strict. My mother said you got to go
there. You got to try it, you know?
Yeah, you're not. You're out.
You're not going to make it out of high school.
So I went over there. They're very strict, right?
Moderately, you know, you had towear a coat and and tie and but
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you had to wear a jacket when you're in the hallway.
I at first I I didn't like it atall, right.
You could imagine what like whatthe I mean, what a difference.
It's a shock, yeah. But lucky for me, their coaches
were unbelievable. You know, Coach Tom Marcucci was
a legend in Connecticut. You know he coached football and
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baseball. Coach Jerry Charleglio was ended
up going on and being the head coach at Holy Cross in Waterbury
after you know, you know he was.There when I.
Was there so, you know, those, those guys end up becoming like
father figures to me. So I, I figured out real quick
that that's where I needed to be.
They really, they wanted me to succeed and ended up being, you
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know, kind of a really importantturning point in my life at A at
a young age. Now, was it a situation where
you go to class and then after class did, did they make you do
like a study hall and then you went to practice or would you
have study hall after? Were they strict like that?
No, no, not really. It's it's pretty much like a
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kind of like a normal high school, except it's all boys.
You got to dress up a little bitand then you go to and then, you
know, you, you regular play, youknow, go to practice and do all
that other stuff. So.
And you were watching stuff thatyou had good coaches, which is
huge. Absolutely no.
Absolutely. I needed that really bad in my
life. What?
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Well. What position did you play?
Believe it or not, I was AI was a wishbone quarterback and then
I played defensive back. I know.
And then and I played defensive back.
Did you, did I mean quarterbackstough, especially making that
adjustment from kind of jumping all over the place?
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Yeah, well, they. They, they set you a quarterback
and a wishbone quarterback, you're running right.
Yes, yeah. So we ran the eye for a little
bit, but my my senior year, the coaches switched to a wishbone
just to take advantage of me just kind of running.
But I played out of the eye my junior year and then the
wishbone my senior year. Wow, wow.
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How did the? How did the?
I'm not. I wasn't a great.
I was not a great thrower. I threw a little bit great
though. What, Yeah, I mean, I, I can
imagine because the wishbone, I mean, you're, you're obviously
reading for the dive and then the pitch and then you keep it.
So it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's usually a triple
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option and and you got to make decisions quick.
Yeah, on what you're going to do.
It, it's funny because like I, Igrew up, you know, when I early
in my high school, when I was inhigh school, I used to love
watching college football on Saturdays.
And I used to watch Jamelle, Jamelle Holloway run the
Wishbone for Oklahoma back in the day.
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And I used to just, I, I, that was like one of my favorite
things to watch. And we ended up, I ended up
running the wishbone, you know, a year or two later in high
school. So it's kind of it kind of
interesting. And and did you?
Did you like the Wishbone? Did you?
I loved it. I loved it.
I get to run the ball almost every time.
Do you, do you remember statistically how many yards
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rushing you ended up? No, I don't.
I don't. But you obviously rushed for a
lot I. Ran the ball a lot.
Yeah, I ran the ball a lot, yeah, I ran the, especially my
senior year, yeah. So my junior, I, my junior, I
played quarterback and then our running back got hurt so I, I
got moved to running back because we had a senior
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quarterback that was decent. So I played a little bit of
running back, my seat, my juniora little bit, but I played
probably more quarterback, but II did play some running back
too. Got you now.
Recruiting back then was a lot different than IT.
Is, Oh my gosh, so different. Were you like, did coaches come
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through school to see different players?
Did you did? Were you making tapes and
sending them out to the recruit?Yes, you did all that.
Yeah, yeah. The coaches were really
instrumental in that. So back then coaches would
actually send full game tapes VHS.
Yes, that's what it was, game. Tapes to to colleges and then
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you know they would come by and pull you out of class and.
And do all that stuff. So it was, it was, it was what?
Much different, much different than it is now.
No, because that's, that's exactly what I had to do.
I remember my dad got one of those machines where we put the
game tape in and a blank tape and it would dub the game tape
really, really fast And like we'd sent out we we must have
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sent out like 100 game tapes everywhere just to, to just to
try to get a look because my area what was not highly
recruited so to get. From your.
Upstate New York. Upstate New York by it's Utica.
It's in between. Sarah Christian, Albany.
Yeah, Yeah. I've heard of Utica.
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Yeah. So we don't we don't, we don't
get a lot of recruiting. Like to this day, I am the only
Division One player that ever came out of, well, the last
Division One player to come out of our high school, New
Hartford. Wow.
Yeah, yeah. Because it's just we you know,
we didn't we didn't have a lot of talent and we didn't get
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recruited a lot. So now back then it was also
different. Did you go to any camps like
between junior and senior year? We, I did a couple, like early
on, I remember going somewhere down in New Jersey and I
remember going somewhere like, Ican't remember if it was like
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Sacred Heart, you know, somewhere, somewhere down in the
Fairfield area. I remember going to a couple
places. Yeah, that makes sense.
It was just old school, I think coaches trying to reach out to
colleges and send out tapes. And yeah, I mean, it was, it was
definitely a grind back then. So when would you say you
started to get recruited? Were you getting recruited after
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your junior year? Yeah, you know, it's, it's funny
because I never, I never even thought about like going to
college. Like I never even thought about
that. Wasn't on the radar.
No, like I was just trying to get through, man, you know, And
so, you know, I would say like the end of my junior year, my my
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college, my high school coach says, Scott, I'm gonna get you,
I'm gonna get you a full scholarship.
And I was like, what? And so then I.
Then I started. Yeah.
Then I started thinking, are youlike, are you crazy?
Like, so yeah, honestly, I wasn't one of those kids that
had like, these big huge dreams.Like I wasn't someone that
looked way out into the future. I was literally going day by
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day. That's how I was.
Yeah, and, and I wasn't, I didn't, I couldn't think that
big, you know what I mean? Like I just, I didn't, I didn't
think about it. So honestly, until like kind of
going into my senior year is when I started realizing there's
maybe, it's maybe a chance. I think winning the decathlon my
junior year for some reason put me on some people's radar as a
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football player, which sounds kind of weird, but.
No, that's a. That's a big deal.
Yeah. So that I think that helped to
be honest with you. Right.
So how are your grades academically?
I was decent, you know, not, notcrazy, you know, like a, you
know, like AB something like that, yeah.
You were B, you know, and you did OK SAT.
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You were I. I I hung in there.
Well, you were a qualifier, that's all that.
Exactly, Exactly, exactly. But yeah, so I, I had no idea.
I was like, I, I was blown away by the even the thought of
something like that, to be honest with you.
'Cause I, I coached college football, I coached at Holy
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Cross, Colgate and Dartmouth for10 years.
And they like, we valued other sports.
So like, I would, I would go watch a basketball game of a
recruit. I would, I would watch a track
meet of a recruit. So if you dominated and won the
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decathlon, I mean that is something that would absolutely
stand out and put you ahead of other recruits because it shows
that you are a tremendous athlete to be able to do all
that. So you're you go into your
senior year, you're playing quarterback schools, schools are
coming to visit. What would you say like your top
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schools were that we're interested in you or off ended
up offering you scholarships? Oh, so first of all, the some
schools didn't know what to do with me.
You know, they were kind of recruiting me as a.
Athlete. You're an athlete.
Yeah, yeah. You know, and so my junior, I
didn't play, I did play some defensive back, but you know,
they're trying to reserve me a little bit.
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So my senior, I played a lot of defense.
I played all over the place. So so so you playing both?
Ways she's. Yeah.
And and the interesting thing isI was recruited anywhere from
receiver to a defensive back, even running back for in some
cases to an athlete. But I remember, I distinctly
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remember Army calling me and I was like, that's a hard no.
Like I just can't that that's just not something that that I
was interested in. But I would say obviously UConn,
Villanova and our. Army.
I remember Army reaching out to me.
I there was a man. I remember there was a an Ivy
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League actually reached out to me, which I thought was pretty
funny. And I can't, I can't remember
who it was. It wasn't like Yale or Harvard,
but it was like maybe Dartmouth Brown.
Yeah, Somebody, somebody like that had reached out to me and I
was like, I don't think I could do that either.
I actually, I actually wanted togo to Syracuse and.
Me too. That was my.
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Really, I wanted to go to Syracuse.
So my coach reached out. He know them and he's like, Nah,
you know, we have, you know, we see him as a defensive back.
We have enough. We don't, you know, we're not
going to, we're, you know, we'renot going to offer him.
And so that was pretty tough, but that's kind of where that's
kind of where I wanted to go forsome reason.
Oh my God, yeah. Yeah, it was weird.
Really. That's so funny.
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Well, Syracuse is only 30 minutes away from where I live.
Both my both my parents went to Syracuse and we went to every
home game. We had season tickets.
So I I was there during the McNabb era.
When McNabb played, they were. Good.
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They were good. They were amazing.
They were amazing. I would have done anything to go
to Syracuse if you told me to walk naked to Syracuse.
I would have done it if they would have taken me.
But yeah, I didn't. I didn't get done.
I don't. Know where?
I don't know how I came out of that kind of that's where I
wanted to go. Yeah, and then UConn, how did
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they come into the picture? Were they late to the party or
were they always? No, I was.
I was being recruited by Ted Walton.
Who? OK.
Yeah, he and I connected really quick.
You know, we kind of had a lot of similarities.
And so Ted was my main guy that recruited me.
And then obviously, you know, Coach Jackson, which again, I,
I, you know, we just recently passed away.
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All right, he. What a, what a, you know, I, I,
I appreciated him so much. Just giving me an opportunity to
even go to college for. Everyone says that.
So I I, I owe him. You know the world.
So, you know, I, you know, shoutout to his family and you know,
I, I think about him often. But yeah, you know, he came in,
you know, back then. I don't even know.
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I don't even know what the recruiting world is like so much
now. I mean, I went.
Through Oh, it's it's a mess now.
Like like back? Do they still do home visits?
Yeah, just yes, Yeah, they'll they'll do home visits, yes.
OK, so I remember Coach Jackson coming to my home.
And that means that means they love you.
Yeah, so I remember that and I remember him coming to my
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school, obviously. And it was, you know, I, you
know, my mother's oblivious to everything.
So, you know, like I said, I don't come from a family where
people go to college and things like that.
So I kind of, I dealt with all my recruiting by on my own, you
know, by myself and. So yeah, well, your coaches
probably help guys. In my yeah, absolutely.
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Yep. They helped me some, but I
remember crazy story. I just remember I forget what
the date was, but they call me and back then you pick up the,
you know, the phone in the kitchen or whatever and they
said, Scott, this is Coach Jackson, you know, we want to
offer you a full scholarship. I, I, I accepted right on the
spot. I.
Said yes, yeah. I was like, I was like, what?
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And he was like, yeah, we're going to offer you a full
scholarship. I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm in.
So I shot hang up the phone and I yell up to my mother.
I'm going to UConn. I just, I've got a scholarship
to UConn and that's where I'm going.
She's, you know, she's like, oh,that's great.
But that's that's literally how it happened.
That's crazy, honestly. I was just thankful.
Like I was like, this person wants me to come play football.
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And so I was like, yeah, I'm, I'm in.
Let's go. Did you go up to any games at
all during the seasons? Did you play?
Nope. Had you been to campus at all?
Nope. Never saw the campus.
No, you're, you are. You're exactly like me.
I, I, I I committed without seeing the campus.
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I committed without visiting anything like that.
That's crazy. I mean, eventually they I
eventually went up on a visit with a group of recruits and did
all that stuff. But I honestly like where where
I'm from. I was so excited to even have
that opportunity. Well, yeah.
You're in state too. It could have, absolutely.
It probably could have been anyone, but I'm thankful it was
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Yukon because, you know, I live an hour away.
It was. It ended up working out great,
but. Your family got to see you.
Play. Yeah.
I was so shocked by the whole thing.
I was. I just accepted right on the
spot. So like, Villanova didn't
officially offer you, but they had talked to you quite a bit.
You know what? Nobody even had it.
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I don't think anyone really had a chance because I I just
accept. I accepted the 1st.
One once you accepted, yeah. Right.
How was it? No, that's good.
There's nothing. There's nothing wrong with that.
That's awesome. And it was, yeah.
It was weird because I would have had opportunities to run
track in college. Was that, was that something you
wanted to do? No.
Nope. OK.
Nope, but I you know, I would have but I don't know if you
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know this but I actually ran indoor track my freshman year at
UConn. I did not know that.
OK, so they so they let you run indoor?
They did, but it was really tough, like it was tough to do 2
sports. Oh, it's a, it's a, it the
Division One level. It was, it was really, it was
really hard. I mean, I enjoyed it and I, I
did well, but it was it was tough because you know, you're
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going early for football, right?So you get there, August. 1st
the workouts. I had to stay there all
Christmas into all the. Christmas break, right?
Missed all of that. Then I was doing some football
workouts and track workouts and then I went into spring
football. It it was really, it was tough.
Wow. Yeah, it was tough.
Wow. Yeah, it was tough, but I did it
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for one year. You did try it your freshman
year? Yeah, just indoor.
What did you run indoor, the 200or the?
The the multi the multi event. So they had a pentathlon which
is 5 events. Oh my God.
Wow. So it's like hurdles, long jump,
high jump, shot put. Shot put need.
A run, yeah. So I did that.
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That's amazing. Yeah, it was, it was, it was
interesting. It was just because you're
you're a tremendous athlete, so that's probably why they put you
in there. Yeah, Coach Royd, you know,
tried he. He was amazing.
Yeah, and the and the, I guess the football coaches let me do
it. But Coach Roy was another one
that was absolutely awesome. I know he just recently.
Retired, right? Yeah, yeah, just a.
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Couple years ago he he was, he was great too.
Funny story about Coach Roy. We're in the New England
Championships up at MIT. I'm doing the pentathlon.
So I ended up I'm in the lead, right?
I'm a freshman. I'm winning the whole thing.
I'm a terrible long distance runner, so whatever.
Yeah, right. So I I lose the pentathlon, I
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end up getting 2nd place becausethe 1000 meters I'm you know, I
didn't do. That is that the?
Is that the mile or? No, it's, it's just a little bit
less than a mile, but I'm, I'm not, I'm not built to run you.
Know no, no. So, so whatever, that's fine.
I get second. Second's great.
Yeah, yeah. He throws me into the high jump.
OK so the starting. So listen the start the the
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individual high jump. The starting height is 6-7.
OK, the starting height is 6/7. Oh my God.
So listen, I clear the starting height.
This is a true story. I clear the starting height,
then I miss the next one and I'mout.
OK, I end up tying for 6th placeand getting a half a point.
We actually won the New England Championships by half a point
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that. Because of your high jump.
I mean, I'm just saying that half a point, he threw me the
high jump and I get AI, get AI, get a half a point.
It was so funny. It was absolutely.
Was that the first time that youhad ever done the high jump?
Well, the high jumps in the pentathlon.
You know, oh, it is OK. But but I had already run 5
events. And I you were dead.
Yeah. Yeah, and somebody, he wanted me
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to do it and I, I, I cleared 1 height and I think I got like
6th place. It was really fun.
Yeah. It was hilarious.
And he was all excited back then.
I don't even know if this would happen or not.
Him and my roommate, which is Alex Davis, who also played
football. You.
Know I'm trying to get him on yes.
He and I drove, drove home with Coach Roy in his car.
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It was, it was the weirdest. Oh my goodness.
But Coach Roy was awesome. He was.
Absolutely. Yeah, I heard that.
I heard that everyone has said that about him.
Yeah, he was awesome. But so, I mean, I, I did have a
lot of fun, but it was, it was too much.
It was too much. Your so your freshman year of
football, that must have been like, like for me when I got to
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UConn, the the first two weeks Iwas an offense.
I'm an offensive lineman. I don't think I touched anyone.
Like you could have put a cone out there like I, I, I just I,
I, I, I, I was useless. I, I, like, I, I couldn't adjust
to the speed, the physicality. I just felt like I couldn't do
anything. It took me such a long time to
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catch up. How did you feel you came in and
adjusted in camp? Like were you good to go?
Did you feel like you? Competed.
No. No, I think there was definitely
an adjustment. So I red shirted my freshman
year. Right, which is?
What I, I, I definitely no, I, there's definitely was an
adjustment for sure. I think probably mostly the, the
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physicality, like the size of, you know, the size of the
running backs, you know, the size of the tight ends, you
know, I think there definitely was a little bit of an
adjustment there for me. You know, I, I matured a little
bit late. So I, you know, I can't remember
my freshman year, maybe I was 190 lbs.
I don't. I can't.
Oh my God. Wow.
Maybe maybe 185, I don't even know, but so I definitely needed
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some time. Yeah, you developed.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And.
What position initially did you come in as?
I was a safety. OK, so you were a safety and
yeah, absolutely you you, you have to develop and get better.
And it's great that they retiredyou and I, I still tell tell
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kids today, you know, they get the disappointed if they get
retired. I said being retired is the best
thing for you. It gives you an opportunity to
grow development, sure. And then you have a better
chance to compete as a red shirtfreshman, as a, as a sophomore,
you're, you're getting an extra year.
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So, and it, and it's funny now because kids took advantage of
COVID and there's kids that haveplayed for six years.
There's kids, there's that kid from Miami who played for nine
years. Like it's, it's nuts.
So after your red shirt, after your red shirt, how did you do
your red shirt freshman year? Were you in the mix?
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Yeah, yeah. So my red shirt freshman year, I
was the nickel. So I was in all the all the
packages with five DBS or more. I played AI played a ton of
special teams. So I, I played a lot.
It's funny because I, I think itwas, was it Bellcore that
brought up Natron means? Somebody brought up natron means
from the because of because of the bogey.
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So I have, I have my own Natron means story.
So it's my second college game ever.
I mean, I'm a retro freshman second.
Was that at North Carolina? Was that?
Was that North Carolina right? I'm there.
I'm part of the nickel package. I'm the backup safety.
Our safety goes down early in the game, so I go.
So now I'm playing safety. They run a toss sweep.
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That's true story. I told the story all the time.
They run a toss sweep to Natron means 200 and 3040 LB, whatever
he is. I'm like $1.90.
I'm like, OK, I'm running the alley as hard as I've ever run
in my life. He's coming down the sideline.
I hit him as hard as I can. He rolls me up into our into our
side. By the time I open my eyes up,
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I'm laying on my back and my teammates are looking down at
me. It's a true, it's a true story,
true story. That was like my intro to
college football. I barely got him out of bounds
and I hit him as hard as I could.
You know, I pop up thankfully. And I go back.
Into play he but it was on. I don't know if I've ever been
that hit that hard in my life. And it was.
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It was really. Really.
But you got him out of bounds. Barely, barely so.
So it was funny when when they had brought up natron means I'm
like, oh man, I have my own natron means story.
But what what an experience thatwas.
But I mean, it was fun, but it it was challenging to.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I had no idea.
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I had no idea back then that youguys played North Carolina.
And I also had no idea. I didn't know if I I was curious
if you were told this, 'cause I,I always ask the other guys, I
think Wilbur, Lenny Bellcore andBannister, they all told me that
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when they were recruited, they were told that we were going to
be building a stadium and go to 1A and B in the Big East at some
point by your junior. They they, they.
So they did tell you that as well.
Wow. Yeah.
Still, that blows my mind that yeah, there were talks back then
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to do. Yeah, that was 8880. 9 when I
was being yeah and it didn't getdone.
I I know why because the people of stores Mansfield complained
about the traffic on 195. So they didn't want a stadium
there, which I thought was crazy, but I had no idea that
even back then there were talks of going 1A and they were
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telling kids that they were going recruiting.
That was part of the recruiting pitch.
Yes, yes, which is amazing. Nope.
Amazing. That is all true.
That is all true. And who was your position coach?
Coach Spags, my guy, Kansas. City, Oh, you had Spagnolo?
Oh, he was my guy. Yeah, Oh my God.
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So he was our defensive coordinator and DB coach, so I
spent all my time with him. Yeah, yeah.
And how many years was he there with you?
He was there with me for three. Oh, so you had him for most of
your career, OK. Yeah, for three of my five,
yeah. Man, that's, that's amazing to
me, 'cause now he's considered the best of the best.
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I see him on I, I. It's crazy.
It's crazy. When you see him on the
sidelines, yeah. It's It's so weird.
I, yeah, I like, I, I, I didn't know the quality of coaches that
came through UConn like, I, like, I, I played for Daryl
Bevel when he was there. And Bevel was the interim head
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coach for the Jaguars. He was the OC for the Packers,
OC for the Seahawks. Like, it was just amazing to me.
And then I had Todd Orlando, ourDC, who ended up being wasn't.
He at Texas. Yep, he was the DC at Texas.
Yep, Now he's he's at South Florida.
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Now Norris Wilson was my line coach.
He was the head coach at Columbia.
He was at Rutgers. He was at Rutgers for a while
and now he's at Minnesota. So it's just amazing the the the
coaches that came through UConn.How did the team do during your
your red shirt freshman year, sophomore year, and.
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Then, so we were, let's see, my senior year we were pretty, I
think we were, I don't know, somewhere around 6:00 and
5:00-ish. Yeah.
My sophomore year, my red shirt sophomore year was a tough year.
I forget what we were, but it itwas tough.
That was we had Cornelius as ourquarterback who was a star.
Cornelius found it. Yep, I heard about him and.
Then our then our junior year wedid a little bit better.
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Senior year was decent. We had a really good year.
I can't remember if it was my freshman at Red Shirt with de
Janeiro I. Think yes, yes I'm trying to get
him as well. I heard he was great.
Yeah, he was awesome. We we tied for the league title.
Like Yankee Conference. Yeah, two or three-way tie.
I can't remember if that was my junior year, freshman year, not
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pretty good. But you know, we were
competitive. I mean, I had, I was having a
blast, man. I was just having an absolute.
I was living. That's what everyone said.
Everyone said I was. Living a dream.
I never like I said, I didn't have real big dreams when I was
when I was a kid. So to to be able to do all that
stuff, man, I was just well and.You had your, your family was
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able to watch you play, you wereclose.
And, and that's the one thing like I, I talked to the guys
that played, when you played you, you were such a close knit
group and everyone still keeps in touch, you know, I think it
was bellcore, Bannister said. They have, you know, obviously
text chats with a bunch of guys.They do everything to keep in
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touch and that's that's so awesome.
So did you really turn it on after your sophomore, junior,
senior year? Is that when you continue to
write like get better and becomea stud?
Yeah, well, so I so my. And the starter.
Yeah, I started my sophomore year on, you know, my red shirt
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sophomore year on. So I got to start for three
years. That's awesome.
There's only one game I didn't start.
Another funny story. So Rob Clark was my roommate.
It was my junior year. He was a senior.
Greg Williams was our new DC. Yeah, he's our and he was
Banister. I was just going to.
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Say, listen, I was just going tosay he was as wide as he was
tall. And he, you know, he was great
coach really hard nosed, didn't put up with anything, you know,
And so so I listened to stupid Rob Clark about leaving our room
to get over to a home game. You have to be over there by a
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certain time. We walk into the locker room,
nobody's in the locker room. Our face just drop so.
Back then, we're out. So listen, back then we had a
locker room and then you'd have,we had to, you know, all of our
meeting spaces and there was 2 doors that you could close off
the meeting spaces. Yeah, they close them off,
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right? So we, So what we, when we come
over for a game, you know, we goin there and do some meeting,
whatever. So we get there, we, we, there's
nobody in the locker room. We're like, oh shit.
So we, we walk up to the door, we try to open the door, it's
locked. I, I'm not even kidding.
I feel, I feel like we're like 2minutes early, but we're but
we're not. And we, we didn't know what to
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do. We were a mess.
We're so we're sitting in our lockers, just me and him Locker.
Room's empty. I I this.
Is before it came. So we're sitting there just
looking at each other like, whatdo we do?
Finally the doors open. He he calls us in, we come in,
he's losing his mind. He's losing his mind.
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You know, we were both starting defensive backs lose his mind.
So whatever he goes, he goes, you going to let you guys, you
guys are not starting this game.You're going to sit this game
until I tell you that you're going to go in.
So we're like, Oh my God. So listen, so, so he, you know,
whatever we go through the wholething, he I didn't know this.
He sends somebody out to the stadium to talk to our parents.
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And he said that he wanted them to say, look, Scott, you will
not see Scott on the field. He's not hurt.
Oh my God. But he showed up late, So what?
You'll know why he's not on the field.
He sent somebody out there to dothat.
So amazing. I.
Know and so that's crazy. He ended up playing us, I want
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to say status for the first quarter.
And he? He put us in, but so that's the
only game. That's the only game that I just
start my sophomore year on, and man, I'll never forget that as
long as I live. That feeling, it was the worst
feeling I've ever had in my stomach.
It was unbelievable. Oh, I I listen.
I've been there. I've been there.
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I would, you know, I, I've been I when I'm late.
I've been late to a lift. Same thing.
I'm waiting outside the door forJerry Martin.
To let me in and your. Stomach just sinks, you know,
you know, you're going to have to, you're going to have to pull
the sled or run stadiums or do something.
I know exactly being late, beinglate for a meeting and that in
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the old locker room, they had the things that they would pull
across to kind of separate the so the position meetings so
nobody could hear each other. So if you had to walk through
someone's meet at meeting, I always remember that.
Oh. My.
Gosh, guys would be late and they would walk through like the
receivers meeting to get to the beeline meeting and they would
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just catch hell for it from likefrom.
Everyone. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Did you, did you play your
entire career for TJ? Yeah.
OK. Yeah, he was great.
So. So he was the head coach the
whole time? No, I think Skip might have been
right after me, I think. Yes, yes.
And they actually had some pretty good seasons with Skip
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too. Yes.
But yeah, I played for Coach Jackson and the only change for
me was. Going to coach.
Bags to Coach Williams. Yeah.
And they were two totally different.
I mean when I say opposite, theywere about as opposite as
opposite gets. That's right.
I mean. It it was an it was an
adjustment. From going from.
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Stags to to Williams, but both great coaches in their own
right. You know, they were.
They were. Both.
Both amazing, amazing coaches, but very different.
Very different. So what did you end up majoring
at Yukon? I studied it was like basically
like exercise science and I. Like kinesiology?
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Yeah, yeah. Yep.
Like kines exercise science. Wow, that's tough.
It was called like sports marketing or management or
something back then. But you take actual science with
some marketing classes, and I kind of, you know, I kind of
like that stuff. Did you have like aspirations to
be an agent or work with the NFLteam or something like that?
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You know what kind of along withlike my whole story, I had no.
Yeah, nobody did. When?
I, I, I, I'm a, I'm a sophomore.Was Bev there when you were
there? Of course I love that.
Oh man. I have Bev stories too.
I love all. Bev was oh please, please tell
it. Valcour told Bev stories that
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saved our lives. I would go to Bev's, I would
stop at Bev's office and I wouldsleep under one of her desks.
I would just take naps under oneof her desks.
She would buy me whatever. Listen, she would buy me those
breakfast sandwiches. You know the breakfast truck.
The truck out front, yeah, she would go.
Get me breakfast. I oh Bev was unbelievable.
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Everyone talks about how amazingshe was.
Listen, Bev, she drove. Bev drove down to my house for a
graduation party. When I graduated from UConn,
like Bev was, she was something out of this.
World, she was so special. She she really was.
She really was. So, you know, I'm a sophomore.
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Bev's like, hey, you got to pickup.
You got to pick a major. I'm like, well, how do I do
that? You know?
So she's trying to work through this.
She's like, how about like sports?
Whatever. I'm like, I like sports.
Yeah, fine. Let's just try, you know, let's
try that. But same thing, man, I didn't
have like this long term vision like it was.
I just I'm just trying to go oneday at a time.
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You want to get. Through it, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
That and it's funny because likeI had kids that came in with me
and they went up to her and they're like, well, I want to
major in engineering or I want to do pharmacy and she's like,
no, you can't do that. There's no way.
There's no way you're going to make, you're going to make
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class. You got to pick something else
and I ended up, I ended up majoring in sociology, which we
called majoring in graduation just so you would graduate, just
so you would graduate. And when I, I went to, I went to
a game this year, I went, I wentwith Mike Burton and Bev came to
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the little tailgate that we had.Oh, man.
And she, she gave me, she handedme $100 bill and I'm like, Bev,
what are you doing? She's like, no, I love this is
for your podcast. I love your podcast.
Oh. Wow.
Please, honey, take. I say, Bev, I can't take your
money. She's like you take my money.
I'm like, OK, OK. Oh, that's awesome.
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But yeah, she goes every game. I saw her two or three times.
She's 80 years old. She looks absolutely stunning.
And I told her, you know, I'm going to have her on the show.
When? Oh, please do.
She has time. Yeah.
No, I am. I am.
I am. She she's she's working through
some things with her husband andshe's helping him right now.
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But when things get better off, she's definitely going to come
on. She watches the show.
She's been a huge, huge supporter.
But that's that's funny. So you.
You ended up. Majoring in sports management.
Yeah, something, Yeah. Sports management, sports
marketing, I don't know. Right, right.
Did you, did you intern anywhereover the summer?
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Did you work or did you take? Class.
Oh man, so I had to do an internat the very end.
Do you do you remember what starter jackets?
Oh of. Course.
OK, so I OK, so I got this intern downtown New Haven with
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this company that worked with starter jackets.
In fact, I think they did their logo where they do logos or.
Something like that, yes. So I did like a little
internship with with them, you know, just whatever, I'd go in
there and observe stuff or whatever.
So I can't remember the name of the company, but all I remember
is that they did a lot of work with the starters starter
company and they did a lot of stuff with logos.
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You know, they kind of designed logos, which was kind of
interesting. But so I did something with them
my senior year. But the but but during the
summers when I I was up at campus one summer all summer to
take some classes, but during the during the summers I would
install above ground pools. Oh, wow.
I, I, I, you know what I heard that was, that was.
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That's what I would do. That was one of the jobs that
was handed down. A lot of guys, that's what.
I'm that's what I would do. I would do that.
That's. Tough work, and then you'd have
to go work out. Yeah, yeah, I would do that.
But yeah, so it was it. Was good.
It was good. And then and then and then.
So, OK, so you graduate. What do you do immediately after
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graduation? What do you get into?
So man, I'm just lost. Right.
Yeah, I know, I know this. I don't know about you, but the
spring of your last year when you're no longer required like
you. Don't I know I was a mess?
Yes, they don't have the schedule for you.
Yeah, you wake up and you could do whatever you want.
I was. AI was a mess.
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Yeah, I was an absolute. Wreck I just, I had no idea what
to do you know, everyone else isleaving for you know, practice
and lifts and all this stuff andI, I was just completely lost
so. Did you consider doing track at
all or no? I actually didn't, yeah.
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I was like, my body was cooked like I was, I was, I was ready
to have a break. Yeah.
So spring, spring semester, my last season, my last year was
really, really interesting. But, you know, I got through it.
That's when I started. Believe it or not, I want to say
a bunch of us went on spring break.
We we rented 2 passenger vans and 12/12 of us 12 of us drove
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to to Daytona. Oh, that's awesome.
Passenger vans, they stayed in this little rundown, this
rundown motel. So there's there's 12 football
players in this rundown motel. It was probably one of the
greatest times of my life. And so we're down there for a
week. When I get back from there, I
just, I'm like, man, I had to turn a light switch.
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I drank much. I didn't stick too much.
So that's. Well, there's just nothing to do
there. I know, but that's what's funny
is we get back from spring breakand that's when I start hanging
out with my wife. Like, oh, you met her.
Oh, that's right. That's how we, her and I just
started hanging out. God sent like I was had somebody
to spend my time with. You know, I, I it just gave me
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some kind of a purpose. Yeah.
So her and I started hanging outfor April, some of May and
obviously that the rest of that is history.
And then I just, I remember a time in April where I was like,
you know, Scott, you got to get your shit together.
Like, you know, you're going outinto the real world.
You got to figure. This out you got to be prepared.
Seriously. And so I did some real random
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stuff for like a year or two. I did some coaching.
I eventually got, yeah, I did some coaching at my high school.
I coached football and track a little bit.
And then I eventually settled inat I got this fitness director
position at a fitness center. And so I that.
You know that personal training.Yeah.
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Like, yeah, personal training and a little bit of facility
management, you know, that type of stuff.
And then my wife, when she graduated, they obviously won
the national title that year, which.
Was right, Right. I I forgot, You know, she's a
legend. Yeah.
That's a whole nother story. Like that was crazy.
We honestly, we couldn't go anywhere.
No, I know, I know. It it, it was unreal.
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I remember being at a Friendly's.
Do they still have Friendly's? Yeah, Yeah, they do.
OK, I remember being at a friendly's with her right after
they won it and we're sitting there trying to order.
We get surrounded by. People.
I can't like, I can't see out. I mean, they don't care about
me. They, you know, they no.
I was just. I was like, I was like Pam,
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this, this is crazy. Like, but so we we had, we had,
we had some crazy moments there after they won it, but that was
just an incredible. Well, they, they were, they were
so beloved. I mean, that, that team, even to
this day, I went to the, the USCgame when they played USC and
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you know, the fans adore them. I mean, like they're a
professional team. They love the UConn women.
I swear they love the UConn women much more than they love
the UConn men. So it was.
It was. It's crazy it.
Really, that year was that year.That 95 year was was magical
and. It was, it was incredible.
You know, Rebecca Lobo and, and,and your wife, I mean, that was
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such a pivotal moment, especially for Gino.
And that's kind of what started the run, you know, that they've
had and and his mate Gino a legend, so.
She. Did did she graduate?
Was it a year or two ahead of you?
Yeah, so she ended up graduatinga year after me, and then she
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went right into PT school. Oh, she went to school physical.
Therapy. OK, yeah.
So she had like a a couple of years after that, you know,
where she. So I had to wait for her.
So, you know, I was just workingat this fitness center job while
she finished her, you know, degree.
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And then we ended up she wanted to move back closer to her
family, which is Hollidaysburg, PA.
That's kind of how we ended up in State College, PA, which is
where Penn. State right right where you are
college. Town.
I don't know if you've ever beenhere, but it's just a map.
Yeah, I am. Yeah.
I was recruited there, yeah. Oh so.
I was blown away so. You know what it's like here.
So it's it's it's. It's yeah, I got, I got
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pictures. Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I was living here when you were recruiting here.
I wish I had known that. But anyway, but so we ended up
down here and, you know, that's kind of how how, how all of that
happened. And then and then, is that when
you started working at the Y? Yeah, I started working at the
Yi, started out at Wellness and just kind of worked my way up,
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you know. And so now I'm the CEO of the
YMCA of Centre County. We have 4-4 facilities that I
oversee. Across the.
County, Yeah. It's, it's, it's a lot of fun.
It's it's a lot of fun. I I enjoy it so much.
Yeah. Tons of flexibility.
It allows me to see all my kids stuff.
I mean, it's, it's just great. Yeah, 'cause I, I worked with
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the, the YMCA in Saratoga, NY and Albany, NY because like I, I
was blown away and how nice the facility was.
Yeah, state-of-the-art weight room, they had workout rooms.
They had absolutely everything. It, it wasn't what you would
think AYMCA was, right. So you got there, you moved up,
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everything's going well. You're How many kids do you
have? I have two boy and a girl.
OK and the girl ended up going where?
So my daughter's a junior in high school.
She's junior high school, OK. Yeah, she just committed to
American University to play. Lacrosse.
That's the one that committed American.
Women's lacrosse is crazy like you it.
Is for. Division For Division One, you
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commit like the September of your junior year.
Yeah, it's different. It's time.
Crazy, so crazy, but we're happythat that's behind us.
And then my son is a really nicedivision.
He's a Division 3 basketball player and so he he's always
loved basketball. So it's it's it's been great.
It keeps us busy. We chase him around well of.
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Course, I mean, they, you've gotof course, great genes to have
kids that have talent and be great athletes.
So that's awesome that she's going to be playing Division One
lacrosse at AIC and your son's abasketball player.
Couldn't be happier. You guys, you guys did a great
job. Yeah, there.
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There's nothing like seeing yourkids succeed.
I don't, you know, it's, it's just something different.
It's different when you see themhave success, you know.
And you and you love being around.
You love State College and do you go to PSP games?
Yeah. I not a lot.
I get no. I get the sum but not a lot.
Oh, it's massive. I I know how crazy it is there.
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It's like a 5-6 hour process. Yeah.
You know, I always, I always tell people, yeah.
I always tell people I, I, you know, I want them to do well.
When they do well, it's great for the community.
But, you know, I didn't go here,so I don't.
I don't bleed Penn State. You know.
So, you know, but but I, I do want them to have success
because when they have success, you know, economically, just
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mentally, it's great for the community.
Yeah. Well, listen, congratulations
on, you know, you had a tremendous career at UConn.
You've had a tremendous career afterwards.
You, you know, marrying your wife, winning a national
championship, having two kids that are going to be playing
college sports and being successful.
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That is that that is so rare andthat is great.
And you're absolutely right about recruiting today.
It's completely different. It is, you know, it's the wild,
Wild West sometimes with, with the nil, with the transfer
portal and, you know, kids just coming and going and it's good
that they found a home and, and I hope it works out.
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But I, I, I have to thank our sponsor Dynamic Human
Performance, which is Andre Dixon, Yukon legendary running
back. He has a 5000 square foot
state-of-the-art facility where he trains boys and girls of all
sports. He sent kids to Division One
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scholarships everywhere. You will hear from him shortly.
And then we also have the man Julius Williams who runs the
Trench Mob, which is in Decatur,GA.
He trains offensive and defensive lineman and they are
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going to start having camps. They're running camps.
The first camp is February 23rd in Miami at 10:00 AM.
You will hear from him next as well.
And finally we have fresh Ned Von Young who has Fresh Fold
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Laundry Company. This place is outstanding.
It's state-of-the-art. They have online appointments,
they have a subscription model where you can have weekly or
biweekly subscriptions. They wash, dry and fold your
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clothes and land speed records. It's outstanding.
To see all the services they have to offer, go to
www.freshfold dashlaundry.com and that's Ned Von Young.
So those are those are everyone.Scott, I have to thank you
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again. This was this was a fun
conversation. It's just an incredible story,
an incredible journey and I I can't wait to get this up.
The guys are going to love this.Your teammates are going to love
this. And we, we, we wish you the best
and we will, we will talk again soon.
I'd love to have your wife on and any, any other, any other
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Huskies that you know, I'd love to have them on.
So for the, the legendary defensive back Scott Mitchell, I
am Steve Cully, the best podcasthost in the universe.
Remember, when life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade.
Take two oranges. Throw them right back at life.