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May 24, 2023 34 mins

La entrevista completa con Rev Dele está disponible con subtítulos en español en la página de Cultivemos en YouTube.

The full interview with Rev Dele is available with Spanish subtitles on the Cultivemos YouTube channel.

Description:

We have to reimagine our relationship with the land.

Farmers are experiencing a crisis of land access. The number of farms is decreasing and the cost of farm real estate has nearly doubled in the past decade, shutting out many prospective farmers. That’s especially true for BIPOC farmers: 98% of farmland is owned by white landowners. With better land access, farming would be more sustainable, achievable and diverse. Without it, farmers can’t farm.

But there’s another harm that’s hidden within the crisis of land access. It’s harder to measure, but no less important. With land out of reach, fewer and fewer people have a relationship with the earth. That means, fewer and fewer people are getting the healing benefits of land: wonder, refuge, calm, even wealth and liberation. To move forward, we have to reimagine our relationship with the land.

So on today’s episode, we speak with two people who are committed to creating relationships with the land. Danielle Peláez is the Education Coordinator at Soul Fire Farm. Through their programming, they create opportunities for Afro-Indigenous people to forge lasting relationships with the earth. Rev Dele is a Black, Indigenous minister, who is teaching the church how to model sustainability. Through her initiatives, Soil & Souls and the Indigenous Mothers Community Land Trust, she’s sharing the Earth’s healing and pursuing land sovereignty for her community. 

A better future starts with our imagination. So join us, as we reimagine our relationship with the land, and find strategies for sharing its bounty with others. 

Highlights:

  • Danielle Peláez’s farming journey (1:50)
  • Rev Dele’s history with the land (4:30)
  • Disconnection: the dark history of land in America (6:25)
  • How land can heal you (8:24)
  • Learning from indigenous stewards (10:02)
  • The crisis of land access (12:19)
  • Land sovereignty & the Indigenous Mothers Community Land Trust  (14:17)
  • How Soul Fire Farm creates opportunities for connection with their programming (16:47)
  • How the personal fuels the political (20:36)
  • Reimagining the land as a relative (22:12)
  • How the land can help us heal our relationships with each other (25:44)
  • It won’t take forever (28:42)
  • The role–and limits–of imagination in the fight for a better future (31:14) 

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