In this episode of Culture Matters, Ty and Taryn sit down with Dr. Jonathan Pennington to explore how metaphors do far more than decorate our teaching—they shape our understanding of reality itself. Drawing from philosophy, neuroscience, theology, and personal experience, Dr. Pennington helps us see how metaphors are central to how we communicate truth, especially in Christian teaching, counseling, and daily life.
In This Episode
02:00 – What is a Metaphor? Why Language is Embodied
07:00 – Metaphor as Epistemology: Knowing Through Analogy
10:00 – Shared Cultural Frameworks & the Power of Illustration
14:00 – Using Metaphor in Counseling and Pastoral Care
18:00 – Harmful Church Metaphors and Reframing with Love
23:00 – Scales vs. Cups: Metaphors of Anxiety and Trust
28:00 – Metaphors Shape How We See and Live
33:00 – Judicial vs. Kingdom: Re-centering Gospel Language
37:00 – Jesus the Rebuilder: From Sump Pumps to Spirit-Filled Life
42:00 – Practical Takeaways: How We Talk About God Matters
Guest Resources
- Dr. Jonathan Pennington's previous episode: Wisdom and Relationships (2023)
- Dr. Pennington’s website
- Dr. Pennington’s podcast: Human Flourishing
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