November 19, 2023 • 37 mins
Lets talk The Dallas Fetish Ball! Kari and Casey had a wonderful evening with friends and seeing allllll the things like leatherwear, impact play, hot wax (kudos to Kari for the public hot wax performance) and of course out favorite, Shibari.
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Casey (00:00):
three fucking
Kari (00:00):
weeks.
We've been Three weeks?
Casey (00:04):
Yeah.
Our loyal listeners andfollowers who have been asking
us, Hey where's the new episode?
Kari (00:13):
Sorry.
You know, it came with the bestintentions.
We wanted to, but
Casey (00:17):
we always come
Kari (00:17):
with good intentions, but we also realize it's okay to
take a break.
It's okay to let other thingstake priority for a little bit.
And we had just been dealingwith a lot of.
With our, our kids and schooland October is very busy
Casey (00:32):
for us.
I didn't realize that.
Well, I mean, we're, we're hugeHalloween fanatics and so our,
our, our October was filled withjust a ton of events, a ton of
people, a ton of things.
And you know what?
We dropped the ball on recordingsome episodes
Kari (00:47):
and I'm not, but I'm not mad.
I'm not normal.
It's time to have little breaksand then we come back and, and
we're fired up and ready andmore energized and got more to
talk about.
And that's what we're here to do
Casey (01:01):
today.
That's exactly what we're hereto do today.
So Carrie, how has life been foryou?
As of like today?
No, as of in a three week, threeweek
Kari (01:10):
break here, I'm sorry, I thought you meant the pervert
sending me a message.
Oh, do we want to talk aboutthat?
I guess we can, like, we'll keepas much as we'll keep every bit
of information
Casey (01:20):
out.
Yeah, we're not going to giveany details, but there was an
instance in which Carrie wassending a text message from a
person that should not have beensending this text message.
Kari (01:31):
You have absolutely no business to message me in that
way.
We have a professionalengagement, even like
professional is like A kind wordto say, like, I barely fucking
know you.
But
Casey (01:43):
what did they say?
They said, I have nice feet.
No, they said the most beautifulfeet they've ever seen.
Okay.
First of all,
Kari (01:51):
that's a lie because I have like Fred Flintstone feet.
First of all, second, secondly,like you did not gain consent to
say that.
So you are not someone thatshould ever talk about my
appearance ever.
Casey (02:06):
So that's the big point to me.
This was.
Completely in a, in aninappropriate setting.
With an inappropriate messagethat was the conversation was
meant to national.
The conversation was meant to beabout an issue that was being
dealt with.
And the response to it was, Hey,instead of me dealing with your
issue, I'm going to go ahead andlet you know that you have the
(02:28):
most beautiful feet I've everseen.
And when I
Kari (02:31):
didn't respond the way that I, that he wanted me to, he
gasped
Casey (02:38):
out of me.
Kari (02:42):
It, like the response immediately after that comment
was just no,
Casey (02:47):
I wasn't being rude.
I was just stating a fact,
Kari (02:51):
well, I'm offended by your
Casey (02:52):
facts.
We just let you know that therewas unwelcome, unprofessional
and completely inappropriate inyour responses.
Well, I'm just stating a fact,just trying to compliment you,
time and place, right?
There's places where we can dothat.
There's places where you need tomaybe check yourself and, and
you might have this thought, butdo.
(03:12):
Set a boundary for yourself,like just shut the fuck up, like
the time side
Kari (03:21):
been great.
Aside from that, the last fewweeks have been amazing.
Your life changed a bit the lastthree weeks.
Oh yeah.
I'm the same babe.
Let's talk about you
Casey (03:33):
started some new, some new work.
Yes.
For those of you that do know, Iam a chiropractor.
I love the profession and I tooka hiatus for around a year.
Kari (03:42):
It wasn't a hiatus.
You still worked.
You just, you didn't have aclinic.
Oh.
Pull your hair so quick, thenplease pull my hair because you
have consent to do
Casey (03:50):
so.
So I started, I started workingagain here in the Dallas Fort
worth area and it's been a funlittle transition and getting
back into a, you know, anoffice.
It's, it's, it's a fun thing todo.
Anyway, that's all that's newwith me.
No, with you, that's a quick oneupdates, right?
Yep.
So we're gonna start off theshow today by discussing a
question that we received fromsomeone.
(04:11):
And this was a unique questionbecause it's not one that we
have been over before.
No, we have not.
This person.
Was seeking some assistance,advice, support, suggestions,
help, like tricks.
I all, all sorts of, of anythingthey can because they were
curious about their partner whohas in their words, weird fetish
(04:34):
and our words.
Just a
Kari (04:37):
kink.
It's just a kink.
We try to stay away from theword weird.
I think some people take it as acompliment, but others can take
it as an insult.
It's
Casey (04:48):
all about how you mean it.
Like, what do you mean wheneveryou say that?
Kari (04:51):
But, but if you're asking someone that was like a fetish
again, like.
I don't like the putting theword weird and fetish in the
same sentence.
That's just my personalpreference.
However, let's dive into thisquestion.
Casey (05:03):
Yes.
This person wants to, is sayingthat their partner has a a kink
for bellies, belly buttons,tusks tummy buttons, navels.
I mean, every synonym for, forbelly button that we can find.
We're
Kari (05:17):
just making sure we really understood.
Yes, the assignment,
Casey (05:22):
but they said their partner has an interest in
playing with their belly button.
And this person that sent themessage actually has an Audi
themselves.
So they already have this littlepiece sticking out.
You
Kari (05:32):
know, match made in heaven.
Hello.
Like that's literally have abelly kink and your partner has
an Audi play with it.
Casey (05:39):
Universe.
You're welcome.
Like you've been broughttogether for a reason.
Exactly.
But that our, our response tothis person then is like, Hey,
has this kink for, what do I do?
You laid back in.
Okay.
First of all, oh, oh.
First of all, you have someself-reflection.
(05:59):
Yeah.
On your Yes.
No.
Maybe list.
Where does it fall?
Is this a yes for you?
Is this an, an absolute no foryou?
Mm-Hmm.
Or is this like, Hey, look, mypartner's into it.
I can indulge in their, in theirinterests and this could be a
little bit of fun.
Let's see what happens with it,which is what I'm leaning
towards.
Exactly.
First things first decide own
Kari (06:19):
comfort is
Casey (06:20):
level is, what is it that you, that you're, and if you're
okay with it, great.
Then move forward.
The only way you don't moveforward is if it's an absolute
no.
If you're like, I don't want it.
I have, I have no intention toindulge in this.
Then you communicate to that, tothem, Hey, I understand this is
what you.
Might want, might be into, butthis is an absolute no for me.
Because
Kari (06:41):
whatever but it didn't seem like the question was them
being a, no, so really with anytype of new, like fetish or kink
that you are allowing yourselfto parents or your partner
experience with you.
My tip is like, try all thedifferent, like not the senses,
(07:02):
but like try different aspectsof, right.
So like maybe cold play, maybe alittle temperature.
It's a reaction.
Exactly.
Maybe something more, maybeincorporate food into it.
Like if you kind of just like,Oh, they just want to lick my
belly button.
And maybe that's the weirdaspect to me.
Change the environment aroundit.
(07:22):
Ask, do different aspects of it.
Maybe you're doing like a hotwax or maybe you're Oh, or doing
like via either way.
Wrong answer.
Casey (07:32):
She hasn't tickle it.
I didn't get it.
Kari (07:38):
Yeah.
Poke it with a
Casey (07:40):
toothpick.
If you're comfortable and okaywith it and give consent, then
go nuts.
Kari (07:44):
There's no wrong answer.
It's literally the sky's thelimit, you know?
And again, like you said, if youare giving consent, you have
that comfort.
Your partner has the want, Imean, literally match made in
heaven guys.
Kings are
Casey (07:56):
Kings.
Yeah.
They're they're explored.
You're explaining something thatyou've determined is.
Unique outside the norm andyou're wondering if it's okay.
Yes, it's okay.
Absolutely.
Is it consensual?
Is it enthusiastic consent andvoluntary consent?
Is this something that you canfind yourself that you're not
(08:16):
being harmed consensually?
Yeah.
Go for it.
It's okay.
Like what you like.
Enjoy
Kari (08:23):
it.
Yeah, I think there was a pointin the question that he had
asked.
Not that it had like made himuncomfortable, but he did.
They did.
They, I'm gonna say theydefinitely dove in heavily to
their belly button and liketheir belly button.
Yeah, the situation.
And apparently it's like evenmore of an out.
I
Casey (08:39):
mean, I kind of liked reading this message.
Kari (08:41):
It was a lot.
In a great way,
Casey (08:45):
there was a lot, there's a lot in there.
I mean, you've got very detailedwith the message.
She wants to eat or liquidcream, honey, chocolate syrup,
ice cream, get a little foodplay off my belly button.
She wants to use cold items.
Price.
I love this girl.
Clearly
Kari (08:59):
she's thought, I love this girl.
Casey (09:01):
Clearly she has thought out the things she wants to do
to this, this person's bellybutton.
Yeah.
And we're here for it.
Do it.
They can do it.
If, if there's nothing that's,that's really stopping you, like
no big reason of why you justdon't want to do it, then
indulge in it.
Yeah.
Have fun with it.
Explore
Kari (09:18):
it.
And I think that if you're in,like, obviously she is like so
into it and maybe you're like onthe fence, start out small.
Like it does.
Seemed in the past.
It does seem like you are opento it.
Just keep that openness.
I know there was a point thatyou said that it like kind of
made you feel a littleuncomfortable and there's
Casey (09:37):
ads.
There's, there's a bit to add toit too.
Kari (09:39):
Well, hold on.
Maybe you need to like dive intofeeling comfortable within your
own skin.
You have a partner that isclearly interested and then it
does sound like there's a littlebit of insecurity on your part,
which is very common.
Yeah.
Casey (09:53):
It is, which that answers the question because this person
had said, I want this to workout with her to see if I like
having my belly button, youknow, tease, but I have highly
sensitive skin and my Audi bellybutton is ticklish, so more on
highly sensitive but then isself conscious about having an
Audi.
Girlfriend has any, I'm notreally a big fan of my own belly
(10:16):
button.
So it's clear that you have alittle bit of confidence issues
with your own belly button
Kari (10:21):
because it is an Audi.
And I feel like everyone I knowthat has an Audi hates their
Audi, you know, so find thatcomfort in yourself.
Clearly your partner loves it.
That's
Casey (10:32):
it.
That's what I'm saying.
I understand that you have apartner that's like, I like it.
And that's okay.
Kari (10:37):
And I mean, there are aspects of my body that I don't
like, or I didn't like.
And then, and then Casey's like,that's my favorite part of your
body.
So it did take time for me to,to kind of like separate that
out in my head.
Like, no, no, no, no, no.
My partner likes, it doesn'treally matter.
I mean, it doesn't matter, but Ishouldn't let that be an
insecurity for me when I know mypartner is like obsessed with
(10:58):
it.
This is a stupid example, butlike, I used to fucking hate my
nose.
I hated my nose all the goddamntime.
And then you're like, That's oneof my favorite features about
you.
And I like, I like an upturned
Casey (11:10):
nose, you know, that
Kari (11:11):
you do.
And then through that, I havenow learned to love my nose.
And so no, it's not an Audi orget over here.
My little, my little
Casey (11:18):
who, who, Bill, he wasn't like Grinch over here.
Kari (11:23):
I would make a very great Cindy Lou who, or Tinkerbell,
you know, like
Casey (11:28):
the, the Pixie look, it, it does it for me.
I enjoy it.
You give me, but I didn't giveme the gothic Pixie and we're
going to have a great time.
Kari (11:34):
I mean, he comes so fast,
Casey (11:38):
but it brings up another part of it.
Whenever this person is talkingabout various kinks, various
fetishes where do that, thatnext question pops up, where can
I find stuff about this?
And so as always, we, you know,direct people over to things
like fat life is one, you don'thave to be careful with that
because it's a large communitythat's not very well vetted and
(11:59):
you need to be careful, but it'sa good place to find other
people.
And events.
Things is, I mean, we on aninterview we did, which is
upcoming about an app calledbloom with it today.
Yeah.
And part is, is meeting at, buta place that look at events and
(12:20):
find them in your area, whetherit be with Shabari work or with
various king.
Events or anything, so you canfind that all online, which is
exactly how we came across anevent that we attended this last
weekend.
I,
Kari (12:35):
you follow us online You have already seen what we're
talking about, but
Casey (12:39):
go ahead.
I have my nice bdsm shirt
Kari (12:41):
on today.
You do.
I love it I'm, really jealousthat you put I did because I
don't want to be matching youall the time.
But yeah, we did.
It was the fetish ball, theDallas fetish ball.
Fetish
Casey (12:52):
ball.
Yeah.
So I'm online one day and me andCarrie had been talking about
like kink events.
And so I had searched for kinkevents near us as we had told
many other people to do.
And look at these differentpages.
And one of them popped up Dallasfetish ball that we had never
been to this.
We hadn't even heard about it.
And this fucking thing's beengoing on for 10 plus years.
Like for a long fucking time,
Kari (13:15):
I was honestly like a little embarrassed that we had
not heard of it.
Right.
We're supposed to
Casey (13:19):
like, yeah, we're the, we're the experts
Kari (13:21):
over here.
Wait a minute.
So you immediately like messagedme, you're like, Hey, there's
this ball going on.
It was ending up your birthdayweek.
That was something that wedidn't necessarily discuss.
But yeah, it ended out yourbirthday week and I was like,
yeah, no, we got to do this.
We, we, we absolutely have togo.
So, so we got
Casey (13:37):
tickets, right?
And it was.
It was a three day event.
We went to one of the days, wewent to the actual night of the
ball, but it was hosted as dayone was a beat and greet, which
was a, you could buy liketickets or a table.
It was, it was a nice spot andthey gave you a preview of the
artist coming up.
Yeah.
The main night that we attendedto was the actual fetish ball
itself.
Yeah.
(13:57):
Saturday night and then Sundaynight for those that attended
was if you ever, if you've everbeen in the Dallas area and you
remember what was it?
Lizard lounge that closed down.
They, there was an event that'sbeen hosted there since like the
late nineties on Sundays calledthe church and it is essentially
like a like a, like a gothicdance party and they've hosted
it for a long fucking time andwe've always wanted to go.
(14:20):
We've, we've been talking aboutit for years at this point with
like, we need to be able to go.
It's just difficult on a Sunday.
Kari (14:26):
Yeah.
It's hard on a Sunday when youSunday
Casey (14:27):
night and so we went to the main night.
Of the ball was held at theLonghorn ballroom in Dallas,
which was fucking ironic as shitto pull up and have like this
big ass statue of a fucking
Kari (14:41):
cow and then a Longhorn and then you literally like it
was just so like.
Like a scene out of a movie, we,we pull up, there's a big
fucking cow.
There's a neon sign.
You know, like with the bigbulbs, like think like Texas
country shit.
And the marketing
Casey (14:58):
reads Dallas fetish.
Kari (15:00):
And then the first person that gets out of a car is this
like six foot five individualwith this like red leather
jacket with spikes and fringe,which mad respect with spikes
and fringe with underneath.
Only red fishnets and thehighest heels I've ever seen.
(15:21):
It made
Casey (15:22):
me think of anybody that's ever watched the super
Mario brothers movie with likeJohn Leguizamo back in the day.
And, and he's dancing in theclub with the one girl, not John
Leguizamo, but the other actor,and I can't remember his fucking
name, but he's dancing with her,she's got the big jacket on
that's like the latex and thespikes.
Kari (15:39):
But this was a dude, but basically, yeah,
Casey (15:41):
it was just like that.
Kari (15:43):
And it was so funny, like no pants, no pants.
Directly underneath this, likecow sign.
And, and it was amazing, but itwas a big, it was a huge venue.
I had not been there before.
Yeah.
But walking in, I can clearlysee why they had a, a huge
entrance.
It was a ginormous space.
It kind of reminded me of thepalladium ballroom.
(16:06):
Yeah.
In Dallas Bomb factory orPalladium ballroom.
No, not bomb factory palladium.
But it was like that exactsetup, but like.
It was big.
It was, it was really big.
And then they had a lot of likevendors
Casey (16:18):
everything that they kind of hosted is they had a number
of vendors.
We actually bought a couple ofprints from,
Kari (16:26):
yes.
I'm
Casey (16:27):
not saying their name right now because I don't have
their card with me.
Kari (16:30):
Not this episode, but next episode, you'll see our backdrop
is like.
Completely changed anddifferent.
We have pictures that we'regoing to be hanging up.
It was all stuff that we gotfrom, from the guys on, we, we
will, we're going to, we'll postbusiness
Casey (16:43):
cards.
We'll tag them to everything.
Cause they made some coolfucking stuff.
Yeah.
I immediately went over there.
Kari (16:50):
They had a bunch of options.
That was one thing that I likedit.
It wasn't like, here's fiveprints in 20 different sizes.
It was like, every parent wasdifferent.
The image, the artwork wasgreat.
And then the people werefucking, I felt like
Casey (17:02):
I was sifting through the vinyls at a record shop with
these
Kari (17:05):
guys.
And then, like I said, just theindividuals running the booth
were so insanely nice.
Like gave you a discount, likestart following us online
immediately.
Like it was just, that's onething that I love about going to
these types of events.
And it's actually something thatwe had discussed when we went
home is like, you go to an eventlike this and.
(17:25):
You would think that it's anenvironment that you would be
uncomfortable in, right?
Like fucking half naked people,latex everywhere, like nipple
pasties, nipple pasties, thongs,
Casey (17:36):
whips, boots.
I mean, I was very comfortable.
Kari (17:39):
But it was the most like Comfort I felt in a bar.
Yeah.
And, and a really, really,
Casey (17:45):
it's one of those things where we've discussed this
before Where a lot of bars yougo into and as you as a vulva
owner a lot of times are on edgeBecause you're having to be
vigilant of the people that arein there.
Is this person gonna try to drugme?
Are they gonna hit on me?
Are they gonna follow me?
Are they gonna
Kari (18:01):
try to touch me
Casey (18:01):
inappropriately?
Are they gonna tell me that Ihave the most beautiful feet
they've ever seen?
Vomit, like, are they going todo something inappropriate?
That's unconsensual events likethese are driven by consent and
by good people.
So you're
Kari (18:17):
already people that understand consent.
No, like,
Casey (18:20):
because if there's one rule above all in the world of
kink.
It's consent.
It is.
It's like the golden rule.
It's not treat others as youwant to be treated.
It's consent is king and queenand jester.
Kari (18:31):
I think that's the last rule.
Treat others the way you want tobe treated between like a bottom
and a top.
Like, fuck, you don't treat methe way.
Casey (18:42):
But it was, it was this killer event.
So not only did they havevendors, but they also had some
things set up.
There was, I think the, thedungeon is called dragons and
pearls.
That dungeon was so cool.
So they had a back room areawhere you would walk in and they
had a couple of St.
Andrew's crosses set up a coupleof spanking benches and a few
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various other tools and thingsthat you can use that you could
actually use yourself.
You have, you're there with apartner, you're there with
somebody that's consenting, itwould be like, Hey, this is for
open use.
Here's.
All these tool, here's floggersand here's chain.
They had all
Kari (19:17):
the tools like laid out.
They, you know, even likesanitizing it out, cleaning the
stuff.
In between,
Casey (19:22):
they did a real good job of that, of cleaning everything
off before and after that
Kari (19:26):
was, we even got to partake in that a little bit.
Like you and I, like I got on aspanking bench and you had got
to kind of like.
Play with me with toys that wehaven't necessarily played with
Casey (19:36):
before.
Yeah.
There was a couple of uniquefloggers that I'd have been
like, Ooh, if I want to try oneof those.
So we did that.
That was a lot of fun.
There was one, there was oneswitch that we grabbed that it
was an immediate no for
Kari (19:48):
you.
Yeah.
That was an absolute don't everfucking touch me with that
again.
It was.
Casey (19:51):
So if you know what a, like a, like a writing crop is,
we have one of those and we likeusing that, but that's like
looped leather or whatever thematerial is on the end.
This was.
Like thick wire that had beenlined in a flower shape with
wrapped leather.
And so it was real thick and itwas, it was heavy.
And the second that I caught youwith it on the ass, you
(20:13):
immediately go, Hey, that's ano, we're not going to
Kari (20:16):
continue that.
I'm not even going red.
I'm not saying any colors I'mturning around and saying.
Get that the fucking out of yourhand right now.
Don't you ever hit me with thatagain?
I don't know what that was, butI don't want it.
Don't
Casey (20:30):
want it.
So we participated in that.
And then we, we decided, Hey,you know, this has been fun.
We were there for a little whileas we were leaving, they were
setting up some stuff that I waslike, what are y'all doing?
It looked like.
We didn't go back in because itgot real busy in there.
There's a line outside theoutside this like dungeon that
was well, and that in the
Kari (20:49):
inside the dungeon was super small, like, and so they
could only you're,
Casey (20:52):
you're fitting like 30, 40 people in their tops.
Kari (20:55):
And by the time we tried to go back, I mean, it was like
a wraparound line.
I mean, that took an hour to getin there.
There
Casey (21:01):
was no way.
And so we were like, oh, we'll,we'll try it out.
But as we were walking out, theywere putting down, like, there
was a chair that was coming outand there was what looked like
allegedly allegedly.
It may be some waterproof stuffon
Kari (21:13):
the floor, so there was definitely a heavy squirting
happening later on that.
This is allegedly,
Casey (21:19):
we don't know for sure.
This is just a, you're thinkingabout
Kari (21:21):
the fuck else.
Are they waterproofing a room?
Doesn't need to be madewaterproof.
Casey (21:27):
Oh Lord.
So we did that.
Kari (21:30):
You don't need that cleanup for semen.
Like you don't need that kind ofcleanup for semen.
Casey (21:34):
We participated in that.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Then this is, this is within thefirst hour that we're there.
And we were there, we got therearound nine o'clock and we
stayed till around one 30 or so,but they had, so they have the
main stage, which hadperformances on there.
This included burlesque.
This included Shabari.
All included a, a fashion
Kari (21:55):
show, a latex fashion show.
That was really cool to see.
Some really bad ass designs.
There were girls that had comeout and like full, like head to
toe, like leather material.
Some gentlemen, gentlemen thatcame out and like a latex like
suit, but they also did likethis, like latex coating over
their entire face that gave memad anxiety.
(22:17):
I don't know how they breathedin that.
But that was crazy.
And then they had theseindividuals come out and these
like butterfly latex outfits.
It was like a onesie again, all,all latex with these like wings
that would move up and down.
It was a beautiful performance.
I know
Casey (22:33):
I'm sitting here like trying to figure out.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
So the, that's, I was lookingfor the, the fashion designer is
Donna matrix, D a W N a M a T RI X Donna matrix.
The shit that she had on thatstage was fucking cool.
You can find some of theirstuff.
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If you actually go to fetishball presents on Instagram or
check out Donna matrix or checkout even Courtney crave.
Who is one of the people thatwas there, you'll see images of
all their latex wear and theyhad some intricate designs.
It was really, really cool.
So that was definitely part ofit.
The performances were awesome.
We enjoyed that.
We got to see some of our greatfriends.
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We got to see lavender andVivian from the nightshade
burlesque.
And we also got to see MissOphelia Winters there who we've
met through nightshadeburlesque.
Kari (23:24):
It was really cool running into them and just kind of
getting a chance to talk withthem.
And then Ophelia and I got toexperience the wheel of
something fun, the
Casey (23:33):
wheel of pain, the wheel
Kari (23:35):
of pain.
So on the side stage, they hadthree to four rotating out
different dominatrix on stage.
Yeah.
And you, you know, you waited inthis long ass line and, and you
got to like head up on stage.
Well, actually, first we waitedin line for a while.
We got all the
Casey (23:53):
way to the front of the
Kari (23:54):
line.
I had said, I was like, Casey, Iwant to do something that is
going to be like memorable.
I don't want to just like go buya shirt and cool.
Like, no, I, I want to rememberthis night.
And so we like be lined it forthis line.
We were in this line for awhile.
And then they're getting readyto start the next show.
So I was a little like, upset.
I was like, no, I'm done.
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I don't get to do it.
And then they're like, no, we'regoing to give you a little
token.
Yeah.
We got a little poker chip.
Yeah.
And they're like, bring thisback at this time.
And you in line.
So we did, we, we, I was a goodlittle
Casey (24:26):
girl.
Yes, you were.
And you and Ophelia hit the veryfront of the
Kari (24:29):
line.
Yeah.
We were like first up there andOphelia had known one of the
performers on that stage.
And so they kind of like belying together and.
They did their own thing andthen I went up and got on stage
and I got to spin the wheel.
This is a massive, massivewheel.
I, I can't even tell you all thethings that were on it.
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But what I can tell you is thatthe one that was fatedly chosen
for me happened to be somethingthat I have really wanted to
play with.
In front of a
Casey (25:00):
crowd.
Kari (25:01):
Well, I mean, I wanted to play with it in general.
The crowd was the bonus.
Exactly.
And then, well, the ladies werethe bonus.
The crowd was, I didn't eventhink there was a crowd there.
I'll be honest.
When I was experiencing this, Ididn't even think once about a
crowd being there.
Welcome
Casey (25:16):
to how it feels being a performer.
Yeah,
Kari (25:18):
like not even, like, I'm not even there.
But I landed on hot wax.
Yeah, you did.
And so, I'm like, I'm clappingon stage.
We have
Casey (25:29):
video of it too.
You spun the wheel and you'relike, so excited.
You're this little girl that'slike, Oh yeah, I got the thing.
Kari (25:36):
Okay.
Where do you want me?
And so they like set me on thisbanking bench and I think there
was four candles.
Yeah.
Casey (25:45):
And two for
Kari (25:46):
each person.
And just.
All over my body.
Yeah.
It, it was they, my neck, myshoulders, my, your thighs.
My thighs.
Like your breasts.
I was getting there everywhere.
And so, and, and I could tellthat the, the lady performing
was like, this has to beelevated.
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So she was, she was.
Letting the wax, like build upon the sticks.
And then she would like sling iton my legs and she would do that
a bit.
And so all of a sudden I justfeel it like sling up against
me.
And then she like stood up andthen she started like letting it
drip on my chest.
And then she just pulled myfucking dress to the side.
Casey (26:24):
And it was like one titty and other titty.
Kari (26:27):
Yeah.
And again, no audience.
Right.
So I'm just like me, this girl,we're doing this.
This is great.
And then there was a briefmoment where I was like.
I think my titty is completelyout from my angle.
I couldn't really tell,honestly, but from my angle,
yeah, from, I couldn't tellfully that my titty was out and
it wasn't until I saw the videoslater on.
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I was like, Oh yeah, no, that
Casey (26:49):
was, that was like, you got off stage.
I was like, you realized theyjust pulled your titties and
that was a whole ass city.
And you were like, wait, theydid what?
Kari (26:56):
Like, what's this?
You know, angles.
I don't fucking
Casey (26:59):
know.
Well, of course, both of us werefine with it, right?
It was something where it waslike, that was a hell of a show,
hell of an experience.
I mean, the crowd was goingwild.
Like we, you had you doing yourthing.
You had Ophelia doing her thing.
Both of y'all were justengaging, experiencing life
together and stuff.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
And it was, it was a lot of goodfun for y'all.
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I'm sitting at the front.
Me and my, I have my camera,like my camera phone out and I'm
sitting there like kind of theside, trying not to get too much
in front of the crowd beforerealizing like, wait a minute,
that's my wife on stage.
Yeah.
Fuck you guys.
Get out of my way.
I'm getting right into the frontof this.
And so I got some good video ofit.
And it was, but that part was,was such a good fun.
Kari (27:43):
I was pretty sure it took me like 10 minutes to dig all of
the wax off my
Casey (27:48):
nipple ring.
Girl, you were digging wax outthe next day.
I was
Kari (27:51):
finding wax the next day and I'm like, there is still wax
on me and I'm still really happyabout it.
Casey (27:59):
Oh, there's a memory.
Oh, look, there's anothermemory.
But that part, I mean, that wasa lot of fun.
So we, we continue to make ourway around where, of course, we
like picked up our shirts.
We, we, we ran into people, raninto people that we knew, like
randoms too.
And sometimes it'd be like, Oh,I know you from this.
Yeah.
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And talk for a little bit.
We, we got recognized a coupleof times for our show, which
was, I mean, that was a lot offun.
We're still like, Hey,
Kari (28:28):
Hey, you know, like, wait, y'all are, yes, we are.
Casey (28:32):
Got to have some good pictures taken like all
together.
It was a, it was a fun event.
We had a good night.
We
Kari (28:39):
had a really good time and we looked hot as fuck.
Yeah.
We have pictures up onInstagram.
Go take a look.
I am kind of glad I didn't wearlatex though, because it was so
hot and like these peoplewearing like full ass body.
Oh, yeah.
Let's talk about some of thecostumes we saw or some of the
dresses.
I mean, Bravo, man.
Bravo.
I don't know that, like, I don'tknow that you could ever be in
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something like that.
You're too.
Casey (29:02):
Yeah, I, I too, I have too much of like a skin issue.
Like you can
Kari (29:05):
barely, you can't even wear skinny jeans without
freaking the fuck out.
Casey (29:11):
I put those on and I'm like, get them off, get off, get
off.
I cannot imagine you insomething like latex or
something.
But there was, I mean, ifanybody's ever seen, you know,
the Norse god Loki with thehorns, there was somebody there
that was in all black latex,head to toe.
I'm talking like no skinshowing, nothing showing.
And they had these big blacklatex horns that just protruded
(29:34):
out of the top.
Of this, of their head and theywere walking around with them
and their partner.
We were like, Holy shit.
I
Kari (29:42):
like that.
The other one didn't have horns.
I think they had like ears orsomething, but and then there,
there was
Casey (29:49):
like, my favorite was the, the bitch boy.
I, I'd be just calling him thebitch boy.
It was this, it was a latexalmost like a French maid
outfit.
Yes.
But it was pink and black, sothere was like the, he was
carrying a sign.
What did the ruffled frillyshoulder pads and the skirt and
everything like if you've everseen little Nikki and there's
the scene where Hitler, whereHitler's in hell and they're
(30:11):
going to shove a pineapple uphis ass.
It was like, that is the, thatis what it looked like.
Just pink and black, but pink.
And he had a sign on the frontof him.
That was something along thelines of like, I'm this person's
little bitch.
Treat me in whatever way allthat goes up and he was on, he
Kari (30:27):
was on a leash, he was on a leash and again, he was
wearing the highest heels I'veever seen.
There's no fucking way I couldwalk in heels like that ever,
never will I ever be able to dothat.
It was very
Casey (30:38):
impressive.
Me neither.
But by the end of the night, wesaw many people kicking off
their heels and like takingrefuge barefoot.
Kari (30:45):
That was, that was really cute, honestly.
And there was this little likearrow people were starting to
like dance and stuff becausethere was this big show or
performance that was happeningon stage or something.
I'm kind of surprised youhaven't brought that up yet.
What the stage performances?
Yeah.
Well, it was
Casey (30:58):
last.
So this was, this was close tome.
This was around the time that wewere getting ready to take
Kari (31:02):
off.
Yeah, because I was being abitch about my own feet.
Casey (31:05):
But the very last performance.
Was a Shabari performance.
I've got, I got to find out thename.
Okay.
So it was, I'm going to butcherthis fucking name.
It was Saki Kimiju.
Yes, I think is what, is whatthe name was.
So S A K I K A M I J O O you canfind them on Instagram.
Saki Kamiju one, I believe iswhat it is.
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But their, their Shibariperformance was unreal.
Awesome.
They had this big rig set up onstage, metal rig.
They brought themselves out.
They brought their, their modelout and this, I mean, it almost
started off with them, likewhipping.
The model.
I don't know if you caught that.
I did.
I
Kari (31:43):
did.
From
Casey (31:44):
across the stage.
They took whatever was in theirhand.
It went bam and slapped him likeright in the
Kari (31:49):
stomach.
And I think that they, yeah,they did.
But remember they had like robeover them for a bit.
So they were like the ropebottom was had this like rope
and the road was facedbackwards.
So like the arms were in theback.
You couldn't see their body atall.
And you saw all these ropes likeslinging and that's when you're
like, I guarantee you they'redoing like this tie, but they're
(32:11):
just not showing the crowd likewhat type of time.
Casey (32:13):
Yeah, that's right.
She was, yeah, she was puttinginto the TK behind the back
degree angle tied together and
Kari (32:19):
then they like ripped off the robe and then there was the
model and then it was like goingmore into like the tying and
moving their body all around andlike suspending them up and like
letting a leg go and then itwould
Casey (32:30):
fall.
Well, my favorite thing aboutthat was.
The choreography to the, to, tothe tempo of the music.
So there would be times wherethey were having this very like
smooth music playing and theperformer was moving at that
tempo, very soft, smooth, verylike intimate and all that.
And then they would just speedit up double time.
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And during the double time, theywere like, I mean, there's ropes
flying.
There were knots being formed.
There was pulling, there wassuspension.
And then they also did a drop.
Kari (33:00):
They did a big drop.
That was.
Casey (33:02):
So if you don't know what a drop is in that it's where you
go from one position and theyalmost just let one of the ropes
loose.
You're still suspended, but itdrops you into another position.
It's a very big thing.
And it like watching this wasmesmerizing.
I really wish we had been closerat that point, but it was next
Kari (33:18):
year.
Next year we will definitely geta table.
Casey (33:20):
Next year we'll be buying like a, one of the boxes.
On the side.
That's what I was into becausethey had a couple of
Kari (33:26):
suites.
They did have this like wholelike VIP area in the very, very
back that we're like, no, wewould never do that.
But then there was one to likethe left of the stage or stage,
right?
Wait, which one is it?
Stage left.
Okay.
Wow.
I was right.
Okay.
Stage left.
But they're just like thislittle like seating area.
That's definitely something thatwe're going to do next time.
Casey (33:45):
Place that The place you can get drinks at.
But
Kari (33:47):
then there were like dancers that were also like
performing throughout.
They had an area for you just todance in general.
They had like DJs and stuff inbetween.
It was, that
Casey (33:56):
was, that was a, we, we didn't ever got the chance to
meet them, but DJ alley cat wasthere.
It was a Vegas DJ, somebody thatattended the ball that night
that we're familiar with, thatmet up with us there.
It's it's one of their friends.
So they're like, Oh man, y'allneed to hear DJ alley cat.
We're hoping
Kari (34:10):
to meet them, but it just didn't fully get to work out
that time.
But we really, and then evenhave like an outdoor area, which
was nice.
Cause like I was saying earlier,it was really hot in there.
And so you're able to gooutside.
They had a latex station, a lubestation, lube station.
That's what it was.
Thank
Casey (34:27):
you.
It's like for all you people.
Wearing your latex that it'sstarting to like stick to you.
Here's some
Kari (34:33):
lube.
They were literally just likelubing people up in latex.
Like you can go back through andsee a lot of their videos and
it's just the two like lubegirls.
Like it
Casey (34:42):
was cool.
They did a good, but they're, Imean, the, the overall, the
costumes that we saw, the dressthat we saw lots, like lots of
skirts, lots of latex, lots ofPVC, lots of, I mean, just good
material, lots of mesh.
Lots of fishnets, lots of nipple
Kari (34:57):
pasties, lots of pretty like the makeup that everybody
did.
There was a lot of guys thatwere in like corsets and skirts
and
Casey (35:05):
which is what I wanted to do.
I want to do a kill.
Kari (35:08):
We did want to find
Casey (35:09):
you a kill.
I wanted to find like a Like afucking ankle high.
I wanted to go like a long blackkilt.
Well,
Kari (35:16):
we will find you.
We have a year.
So if anybody
Casey (35:18):
knows where I can get
Kari (35:20):
a long black, I know where you can get a long black kilt,
Etsy.
Casey (35:24):
Boom.
I went like leather.
Oh, absolutely.
Chains and shit.
Speaking Etsy's language.
Ultra mobile.
Kari (35:34):
No, we will definitely be going next year.
We'll have a different setup.
We'll probably end up inviting aguest or inviting someone from
the show.
Casey (35:41):
What we'll probably do is, is we're going to, we're
going to look at getting one ofthe side suites and then hosting
that as our collaborativepartners.
Hey, if you're a photographerwith us, you get invited.
Hey, if you're.
If you collaborate with us on abig way, then you get to have a
seat where you are.
Treat come out with us likethat's what it's going to be all
about.
(36:02):
Dallas fetish ball.
2023 was fucking fantastic.
And I
Kari (36:06):
cannot wait to do it next year.
I know we're going to have a,and I'm going to look way
hotter.
I'm going like, this was ourfirst one.
We didn't really know what towear.
We look good, but next year itwill be very different.
Yeah,
Casey (36:18):
I mean, you did look hot, but yeah, looking like a gothic
katana from mortal combat overhere.
All right.
I slit dress all black.
Kari (36:29):
So glad I wore underwear.
So I was not going to wearunderwear.
Casey (36:33):
Then you're on stage in front of everybody.
Kari (36:35):
And I was going back through the video.
Cause again, I don't have anymemory of it, but I was going
back through the video and sheliterally took that slant that
center slit that I had flipped.
I'm like, that would have justbeen straight vagina.
That would have been nothing.
It just would have been straightvagina.
Happy
Casey (36:53):
birthday, I guess.
So we had a blast doing it.
Look guys, we've been absent forthe last three weeks and we've
been itching to get back on air.
And here we
Kari (37:02):
are, but we've also been doing a lot of like talks on
like different things that we'regoing to discuss.
And we've been doing a lot ofcontent creation.
Like we weren't just likefucking around.
Yeah.
Like we have stuff set up nowand, and I do love kind of
taking these breaks a little bitto give us more to talk about,
to like, kind of like bring thatfire back up.
You know, we can't be on all thetime.
(37:24):
We can.
No, we can't.
No, I can't.
I'm not cool enough to be on allthe time.
Casey (37:28):
Oh Lord.
Anyway, that's our show fortoday for another episode of
come with Casey.
I'm Dr.
Casey Sanders and I'm justCarrie.
We'll see you next time.
three fucking
Kari (00:00):
weeks.
We've been Three weeks?
Casey (00:04):
Yeah.
Our loyal listeners andfollowers who have been asking
us, Hey where's the new episode?
Kari (00:13):
Sorry.
You know, it came with the bestintentions.
We wanted to, but
Casey (00:17):
we always come
Kari (00:17):
with good intentions, but we also realize it's okay to
take a break.
It's okay to let other thingstake priority for a little bit.
And we had just been dealingwith a lot of.
With our, our kids and schooland October is very busy
Casey (00:32):
for us.
I didn't realize that.
Well, I mean, we're, we're hugeHalloween fanatics and so our,
our, our October was filled withjust a ton of events, a ton of
people, a ton of things.
And you know what?
We dropped the ball on recordingsome episodes
Kari (00:47):
and I'm not, but I'm not mad.
I'm not normal.
It's time to have little breaksand then we come back and, and
we're fired up and ready andmore energized and got more to
talk about.
And that's what we're here to do
Casey (01:01):
today.
That's exactly what we're hereto do today.
So Carrie, how has life been foryou?
As of like today?
No, as of in a three week, threeweek
Kari (01:10):
break here, I'm sorry, I thought you meant the pervert
sending me a message.
Oh, do we want to talk aboutthat?
I guess we can, like, we'll keepas much as we'll keep every bit
of information
Casey (01:20):
out.
Yeah, we're not going to giveany details, but there was an
instance in which Carrie wassending a text message from a
person that should not have beensending this text message.
Kari (01:31):
You have absolutely no business to message me in that
way.
We have a professionalengagement, even like
professional is like A kind wordto say, like, I barely fucking
know you.
But
Casey (01:43):
what did they say?
They said, I have nice feet.
No, they said the most beautifulfeet they've ever seen.
Okay.
First of all,
Kari (01:51):
that's a lie because I have like Fred Flintstone feet.
First of all, second, secondly,like you did not gain consent to
say that.
So you are not someone thatshould ever talk about my
appearance ever.
Casey (02:06):
So that's the big point to me.
This was.
Completely in a, in aninappropriate setting.
With an inappropriate messagethat was the conversation was
meant to national.
The conversation was meant to beabout an issue that was being
dealt with.
And the response to it was, Hey,instead of me dealing with your
issue, I'm going to go ahead andlet you know that you have the
(02:28):
most beautiful feet I've everseen.
And when I
Kari (02:31):
didn't respond the way that I, that he wanted me to, he
gasped
Casey (02:38):
out of me.
Kari (02:42):
It, like the response immediately after that comment
was just no,
Casey (02:47):
I wasn't being rude.
I was just stating a fact,
Kari (02:51):
well, I'm offended by your
Casey (02:52):
facts.
We just let you know that therewas unwelcome, unprofessional
and completely inappropriate inyour responses.
Well, I'm just stating a fact,just trying to compliment you,
time and place, right?
There's places where we can dothat.
There's places where you need tomaybe check yourself and, and
you might have this thought, butdo.
(03:12):
Set a boundary for yourself,like just shut the fuck up, like
the time side
Kari (03:21):
been great.
Aside from that, the last fewweeks have been amazing.
Your life changed a bit the lastthree weeks.
Oh yeah.
I'm the same babe.
Let's talk about you
Casey (03:33):
started some new, some new work.
Yes.
For those of you that do know, Iam a chiropractor.
I love the profession and I tooka hiatus for around a year.
Kari (03:42):
It wasn't a hiatus.
You still worked.
You just, you didn't have aclinic.
Oh.
Pull your hair so quick, thenplease pull my hair because you
have consent to do
Casey (03:50):
so.
So I started, I started workingagain here in the Dallas Fort
worth area and it's been a funlittle transition and getting
back into a, you know, anoffice.
It's, it's, it's a fun thing todo.
Anyway, that's all that's newwith me.
No, with you, that's a quick oneupdates, right?
Yep.
So we're gonna start off theshow today by discussing a
question that we received fromsomeone.
(04:11):
And this was a unique questionbecause it's not one that we
have been over before.
No, we have not.
This person.
Was seeking some assistance,advice, support, suggestions,
help, like tricks.
I all, all sorts of, of anythingthey can because they were
curious about their partner whohas in their words, weird fetish
(04:34):
and our words.
Just a
Kari (04:37):
kink.
It's just a kink.
We try to stay away from theword weird.
I think some people take it as acompliment, but others can take
it as an insult.
It's
Casey (04:48):
all about how you mean it.
Like, what do you mean wheneveryou say that?
Kari (04:51):
But, but if you're asking someone that was like a fetish
again, like.
I don't like the putting theword weird and fetish in the
same sentence.
That's just my personalpreference.
However, let's dive into thisquestion.
Casey (05:03):
Yes.
This person wants to, is sayingthat their partner has a a kink
for bellies, belly buttons,tusks tummy buttons, navels.
I mean, every synonym for, forbelly button that we can find.
We're
Kari (05:17):
just making sure we really understood.
Yes, the assignment,
Casey (05:22):
but they said their partner has an interest in
playing with their belly button.
And this person that sent themessage actually has an Audi
themselves.
So they already have this littlepiece sticking out.
You
Kari (05:32):
know, match made in heaven.
Hello.
Like that's literally have abelly kink and your partner has
an Audi play with it.
Casey (05:39):
Universe.
You're welcome.
Like you've been broughttogether for a reason.
Exactly.
But that our, our response tothis person then is like, Hey,
has this kink for, what do I do?
You laid back in.
Okay.
First of all, oh, oh.
First of all, you have someself-reflection.
(05:59):
Yeah.
On your Yes.
No.
Maybe list.
Where does it fall?
Is this a yes for you?
Is this an, an absolute no foryou?
Mm-Hmm.
Or is this like, Hey, look, mypartner's into it.
I can indulge in their, in theirinterests and this could be a
little bit of fun.
Let's see what happens with it,which is what I'm leaning
towards.
Exactly.
First things first decide own
Kari (06:19):
comfort is
Casey (06:20):
level is, what is it that you, that you're, and if you're
okay with it, great.
Then move forward.
The only way you don't moveforward is if it's an absolute
no.
If you're like, I don't want it.
I have, I have no intention toindulge in this.
Then you communicate to that, tothem, Hey, I understand this is
what you.
Might want, might be into, butthis is an absolute no for me.
Because
Kari (06:41):
whatever but it didn't seem like the question was them
being a, no, so really with anytype of new, like fetish or kink
that you are allowing yourselfto parents or your partner
experience with you.
My tip is like, try all thedifferent, like not the senses,
(07:02):
but like try different aspectsof, right.
So like maybe cold play, maybe alittle temperature.
It's a reaction.
Exactly.
Maybe something more, maybeincorporate food into it.
Like if you kind of just like,Oh, they just want to lick my
belly button.
And maybe that's the weirdaspect to me.
Change the environment aroundit.
(07:22):
Ask, do different aspects of it.
Maybe you're doing like a hotwax or maybe you're Oh, or doing
like via either way.
Wrong answer.
Casey (07:32):
She hasn't tickle it.
I didn't get it.
Kari (07:38):
Yeah.
Poke it with a
Casey (07:40):
toothpick.
If you're comfortable and okaywith it and give consent, then
go nuts.
Kari (07:44):
There's no wrong answer.
It's literally the sky's thelimit, you know?
And again, like you said, if youare giving consent, you have
that comfort.
Your partner has the want, Imean, literally match made in
heaven guys.
Kings are
Casey (07:56):
Kings.
Yeah.
They're they're explored.
You're explaining something thatyou've determined is.
Unique outside the norm andyou're wondering if it's okay.
Yes, it's okay.
Absolutely.
Is it consensual?
Is it enthusiastic consent andvoluntary consent?
Is this something that you canfind yourself that you're not
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being harmed consensually?
Yeah.
Go for it.
It's okay.
Like what you like.
Enjoy
Kari (08:23):
it.
Yeah, I think there was a pointin the question that he had
asked.
Not that it had like made himuncomfortable, but he did.
They did.
They, I'm gonna say theydefinitely dove in heavily to
their belly button and liketheir belly button.
Yeah, the situation.
And apparently it's like evenmore of an out.
I
Casey (08:39):
mean, I kind of liked reading this message.
Kari (08:41):
It was a lot.
In a great way,
Casey (08:45):
there was a lot, there's a lot in there.
I mean, you've got very detailedwith the message.
She wants to eat or liquidcream, honey, chocolate syrup,
ice cream, get a little foodplay off my belly button.
She wants to use cold items.
Price.
I love this girl.
Clearly
Kari (08:59):
she's thought, I love this girl.
Casey (09:01):
Clearly she has thought out the things she wants to do
to this, this person's bellybutton.
Yeah.
And we're here for it.
Do it.
They can do it.
If, if there's nothing that's,that's really stopping you, like
no big reason of why you justdon't want to do it, then
indulge in it.
Yeah.
Have fun with it.
Explore
Kari (09:18):
it.
And I think that if you're in,like, obviously she is like so
into it and maybe you're like onthe fence, start out small.
Like it does.
Seemed in the past.
It does seem like you are opento it.
Just keep that openness.
I know there was a point thatyou said that it like kind of
made you feel a littleuncomfortable and there's
Casey (09:37):
ads.
There's, there's a bit to add toit too.
Kari (09:39):
Well, hold on.
Maybe you need to like dive intofeeling comfortable within your
own skin.
You have a partner that isclearly interested and then it
does sound like there's a littlebit of insecurity on your part,
which is very common.
Yeah.
Casey (09:53):
It is, which that answers the question because this person
had said, I want this to workout with her to see if I like
having my belly button, youknow, tease, but I have highly
sensitive skin and my Audi bellybutton is ticklish, so more on
highly sensitive but then isself conscious about having an
Audi.
Girlfriend has any, I'm notreally a big fan of my own belly
(10:16):
button.
So it's clear that you have alittle bit of confidence issues
with your own belly button
Kari (10:21):
because it is an Audi.
And I feel like everyone I knowthat has an Audi hates their
Audi, you know, so find thatcomfort in yourself.
Clearly your partner loves it.
That's
Casey (10:32):
it.
That's what I'm saying.
I understand that you have apartner that's like, I like it.
And that's okay.
Kari (10:37):
And I mean, there are aspects of my body that I don't
like, or I didn't like.
And then, and then Casey's like,that's my favorite part of your
body.
So it did take time for me to,to kind of like separate that
out in my head.
Like, no, no, no, no, no.
My partner likes, it doesn'treally matter.
I mean, it doesn't matter, but Ishouldn't let that be an
insecurity for me when I know mypartner is like obsessed with
(10:58):
it.
This is a stupid example, butlike, I used to fucking hate my
nose.
I hated my nose all the goddamntime.
And then you're like, That's oneof my favorite features about
you.
And I like, I like an upturned
Casey (11:10):
nose, you know, that
Kari (11:11):
you do.
And then through that, I havenow learned to love my nose.
And so no, it's not an Audi orget over here.
My little, my little
Casey (11:18):
who, who, Bill, he wasn't like Grinch over here.
Kari (11:23):
I would make a very great Cindy Lou who, or Tinkerbell,
you know, like
Casey (11:28):
the, the Pixie look, it, it does it for me.
I enjoy it.
You give me, but I didn't giveme the gothic Pixie and we're
going to have a great time.
Kari (11:34):
I mean, he comes so fast,
Casey (11:38):
but it brings up another part of it.
Whenever this person is talkingabout various kinks, various
fetishes where do that, thatnext question pops up, where can
I find stuff about this?
And so as always, we, you know,direct people over to things
like fat life is one, you don'thave to be careful with that
because it's a large communitythat's not very well vetted and
(11:59):
you need to be careful, but it'sa good place to find other
people.
And events.
Things is, I mean, we on aninterview we did, which is
upcoming about an app calledbloom with it today.
Yeah.
And part is, is meeting at, buta place that look at events and
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find them in your area, whetherit be with Shabari work or with
various king.
Events or anything, so you canfind that all online, which is
exactly how we came across anevent that we attended this last
weekend.
I,
Kari (12:35):
you follow us online You have already seen what we're
talking about, but
Casey (12:39):
go ahead.
I have my nice bdsm shirt
Kari (12:41):
on today.
You do.
I love it I'm, really jealousthat you put I did because I
don't want to be matching youall the time.
But yeah, we did.
It was the fetish ball, theDallas fetish ball.
Fetish
Casey (12:52):
ball.
Yeah.
So I'm online one day and me andCarrie had been talking about
like kink events.
And so I had searched for kinkevents near us as we had told
many other people to do.
And look at these differentpages.
And one of them popped up Dallasfetish ball that we had never
been to this.
We hadn't even heard about it.
And this fucking thing's beengoing on for 10 plus years.
Like for a long fucking time,
Kari (13:15):
I was honestly like a little embarrassed that we had
not heard of it.
Right.
We're supposed to
Casey (13:19):
like, yeah, we're the, we're the experts
Kari (13:21):
over here.
Wait a minute.
So you immediately like messagedme, you're like, Hey, there's
this ball going on.
It was ending up your birthdayweek.
That was something that wedidn't necessarily discuss.
But yeah, it ended out yourbirthday week and I was like,
yeah, no, we got to do this.
We, we, we absolutely have togo.
So, so we got
Casey (13:37):
tickets, right?
And it was.
It was a three day event.
We went to one of the days, wewent to the actual night of the
ball, but it was hosted as dayone was a beat and greet, which
was a, you could buy liketickets or a table.
It was, it was a nice spot andthey gave you a preview of the
artist coming up.
Yeah.
The main night that we attendedto was the actual fetish ball
itself.
Yeah.
(13:57):
Saturday night and then Sundaynight for those that attended
was if you ever, if you've everbeen in the Dallas area and you
remember what was it?
Lizard lounge that closed down.
They, there was an event that'sbeen hosted there since like the
late nineties on Sundays calledthe church and it is essentially
like a like a, like a gothicdance party and they've hosted
it for a long fucking time andwe've always wanted to go.
(14:20):
We've, we've been talking aboutit for years at this point with
like, we need to be able to go.
It's just difficult on a Sunday.
Kari (14:26):
Yeah.
It's hard on a Sunday when youSunday
Casey (14:27):
night and so we went to the main night.
Of the ball was held at theLonghorn ballroom in Dallas,
which was fucking ironic as shitto pull up and have like this
big ass statue of a fucking
Kari (14:41):
cow and then a Longhorn and then you literally like it
was just so like.
Like a scene out of a movie, we,we pull up, there's a big
fucking cow.
There's a neon sign.
You know, like with the bigbulbs, like think like Texas
country shit.
And the marketing
Casey (14:58):
reads Dallas fetish.
Kari (15:00):
And then the first person that gets out of a car is this
like six foot five individualwith this like red leather
jacket with spikes and fringe,which mad respect with spikes
and fringe with underneath.
Only red fishnets and thehighest heels I've ever seen.
(15:21):
It made
Casey (15:22):
me think of anybody that's ever watched the super
Mario brothers movie with likeJohn Leguizamo back in the day.
And, and he's dancing in theclub with the one girl, not John
Leguizamo, but the other actor,and I can't remember his fucking
name, but he's dancing with her,she's got the big jacket on
that's like the latex and thespikes.
Kari (15:39):
But this was a dude, but basically, yeah,
Casey (15:41):
it was just like that.
Kari (15:43):
And it was so funny, like no pants, no pants.
Directly underneath this, likecow sign.
And, and it was amazing, but itwas a big, it was a huge venue.
I had not been there before.
Yeah.
But walking in, I can clearlysee why they had a, a huge
entrance.
It was a ginormous space.
It kind of reminded me of thepalladium ballroom.
(16:06):
Yeah.
In Dallas Bomb factory orPalladium ballroom.
No, not bomb factory palladium.
But it was like that exactsetup, but like.
It was big.
It was, it was really big.
And then they had a lot of likevendors
Casey (16:18):
everything that they kind of hosted is they had a number
of vendors.
We actually bought a couple ofprints from,
Kari (16:26):
yes.
I'm
Casey (16:27):
not saying their name right now because I don't have
their card with me.
Kari (16:30):
Not this episode, but next episode, you'll see our backdrop
is like.
Completely changed anddifferent.
We have pictures that we'regoing to be hanging up.
It was all stuff that we gotfrom, from the guys on, we, we
will, we're going to, we'll postbusiness
Casey (16:43):
cards.
We'll tag them to everything.
Cause they made some coolfucking stuff.
Yeah.
I immediately went over there.
Kari (16:50):
They had a bunch of options.
That was one thing that I likedit.
It wasn't like, here's fiveprints in 20 different sizes.
It was like, every parent wasdifferent.
The image, the artwork wasgreat.
And then the people werefucking, I felt like
Casey (17:02):
I was sifting through the vinyls at a record shop with
these
Kari (17:05):
guys.
And then, like I said, just theindividuals running the booth
were so insanely nice.
Like gave you a discount, likestart following us online
immediately.
Like it was just, that's onething that I love about going to
these types of events.
And it's actually something thatwe had discussed when we went
home is like, you go to an eventlike this and.
(17:25):
You would think that it's anenvironment that you would be
uncomfortable in, right?
Like fucking half naked people,latex everywhere, like nipple
pasties, nipple pasties, thongs,
Casey (17:36):
whips, boots.
I mean, I was very comfortable.
Kari (17:39):
But it was the most like Comfort I felt in a bar.
Yeah.
And, and a really, really,
Casey (17:45):
it's one of those things where we've discussed this
before Where a lot of bars yougo into and as you as a vulva
owner a lot of times are on edgeBecause you're having to be
vigilant of the people that arein there.
Is this person gonna try to drugme?
Are they gonna hit on me?
Are they gonna follow me?
Are they gonna
Kari (18:01):
try to touch me
Casey (18:01):
inappropriately?
Are they gonna tell me that Ihave the most beautiful feet
they've ever seen?
Vomit, like, are they going todo something inappropriate?
That's unconsensual events likethese are driven by consent and
by good people.
So you're
Kari (18:17):
already people that understand consent.
No, like,
Casey (18:20):
because if there's one rule above all in the world of
kink.
It's consent.
It is.
It's like the golden rule.
It's not treat others as youwant to be treated.
It's consent is king and queenand jester.
Kari (18:31):
I think that's the last rule.
Treat others the way you want tobe treated between like a bottom
and a top.
Like, fuck, you don't treat methe way.
Casey (18:42):
But it was, it was this killer event.
So not only did they havevendors, but they also had some
things set up.
There was, I think the, thedungeon is called dragons and
pearls.
That dungeon was so cool.
So they had a back room areawhere you would walk in and they
had a couple of St.
Andrew's crosses set up a coupleof spanking benches and a few
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various other tools and thingsthat you can use that you could
actually use yourself.
You have, you're there with apartner, you're there with
somebody that's consenting, itwould be like, Hey, this is for
open use.
Here's.
All these tool, here's floggersand here's chain.
They had all
Kari (19:17):
the tools like laid out.
They, you know, even likesanitizing it out, cleaning the
stuff.
In between,
Casey (19:22):
they did a real good job of that, of cleaning everything
off before and after that
Kari (19:26):
was, we even got to partake in that a little bit.
Like you and I, like I got on aspanking bench and you had got
to kind of like.
Play with me with toys that wehaven't necessarily played with
Casey (19:36):
before.
Yeah.
There was a couple of uniquefloggers that I'd have been
like, Ooh, if I want to try oneof those.
So we did that.
That was a lot of fun.
There was one, there was oneswitch that we grabbed that it
was an immediate no for
Kari (19:48):
you.
Yeah.
That was an absolute don't everfucking touch me with that
again.
It was.
Casey (19:51):
So if you know what a, like a, like a writing crop is,
we have one of those and we likeusing that, but that's like
looped leather or whatever thematerial is on the end.
This was.
Like thick wire that had beenlined in a flower shape with
wrapped leather.
And so it was real thick and itwas, it was heavy.
And the second that I caught youwith it on the ass, you
(20:13):
immediately go, Hey, that's ano, we're not going to
Kari (20:16):
continue that.
I'm not even going red.
I'm not saying any colors I'mturning around and saying.
Get that the fucking out of yourhand right now.
Don't you ever hit me with thatagain?
I don't know what that was, butI don't want it.
Don't
Casey (20:30):
want it.
So we participated in that.
And then we, we decided, Hey,you know, this has been fun.
We were there for a little whileas we were leaving, they were
setting up some stuff that I waslike, what are y'all doing?
It looked like.
We didn't go back in because itgot real busy in there.
There's a line outside theoutside this like dungeon that
was well, and that in the
Kari (20:49):
inside the dungeon was super small, like, and so they
could only you're,
Casey (20:52):
you're fitting like 30, 40 people in their tops.
Kari (20:55):
And by the time we tried to go back, I mean, it was like
a wraparound line.
I mean, that took an hour to getin there.
There
Casey (21:01):
was no way.
And so we were like, oh, we'll,we'll try it out.
But as we were walking out, theywere putting down, like, there
was a chair that was coming outand there was what looked like
allegedly allegedly.
It may be some waterproof stuffon
Kari (21:13):
the floor, so there was definitely a heavy squirting
happening later on that.
This is allegedly,
Casey (21:19):
we don't know for sure.
This is just a, you're thinkingabout
Kari (21:21):
the fuck else.
Are they waterproofing a room?
Doesn't need to be madewaterproof.
Casey (21:27):
Oh Lord.
So we did that.
Kari (21:30):
You don't need that cleanup for semen.
Like you don't need that kind ofcleanup for semen.
Casey (21:34):
We participated in that.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Then this is, this is within thefirst hour that we're there.
And we were there, we got therearound nine o'clock and we
stayed till around one 30 or so,but they had, so they have the
main stage, which hadperformances on there.
This included burlesque.
This included Shabari.
All included a, a fashion
Kari (21:55):
show, a latex fashion show.
That was really cool to see.
Some really bad ass designs.
There were girls that had comeout and like full, like head to
toe, like leather material.
Some gentlemen, gentlemen thatcame out and like a latex like
suit, but they also did likethis, like latex coating over
their entire face that gave memad anxiety.
(22:17):
I don't know how they breathedin that.
But that was crazy.
And then they had theseindividuals come out and these
like butterfly latex outfits.
It was like a onesie again, all,all latex with these like wings
that would move up and down.
It was a beautiful performance.
I know
Casey (22:33):
I'm sitting here like trying to figure out.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
So the, that's, I was lookingfor the, the fashion designer is
Donna matrix, D a W N a M a T RI X Donna matrix.
The shit that she had on thatstage was fucking cool.
You can find some of theirstuff.
(22:53):
If you actually go to fetishball presents on Instagram or
check out Donna matrix or checkout even Courtney crave.
Who is one of the people thatwas there, you'll see images of
all their latex wear and theyhad some intricate designs.
It was really, really cool.
So that was definitely part ofit.
The performances were awesome.
We enjoyed that.
We got to see some of our greatfriends.
(23:15):
We got to see lavender andVivian from the nightshade
burlesque.
And we also got to see MissOphelia Winters there who we've
met through nightshadeburlesque.
Kari (23:24):
It was really cool running into them and just kind of
getting a chance to talk withthem.
And then Ophelia and I got toexperience the wheel of
something fun, the
Casey (23:33):
wheel of pain, the wheel
Kari (23:35):
of pain.
So on the side stage, they hadthree to four rotating out
different dominatrix on stage.
Yeah.
And you, you know, you waited inthis long ass line and, and you
got to like head up on stage.
Well, actually, first we waitedin line for a while.
We got all the
Casey (23:53):
way to the front of the
Kari (23:54):
line.
I had said, I was like, Casey, Iwant to do something that is
going to be like memorable.
I don't want to just like go buya shirt and cool.
Like, no, I, I want to rememberthis night.
And so we like be lined it forthis line.
We were in this line for awhile.
And then they're getting readyto start the next show.
So I was a little like, upset.
I was like, no, I'm done.
(24:14):
I don't get to do it.
And then they're like, no, we'regoing to give you a little
token.
Yeah.
We got a little poker chip.
Yeah.
And they're like, bring thisback at this time.
And you in line.
So we did, we, we, I was a goodlittle
Casey (24:26):
girl.
Yes, you were.
And you and Ophelia hit the veryfront of the
Kari (24:29):
line.
Yeah.
We were like first up there andOphelia had known one of the
performers on that stage.
And so they kind of like belying together and.
They did their own thing andthen I went up and got on stage
and I got to spin the wheel.
This is a massive, massivewheel.
I, I can't even tell you all thethings that were on it.
(24:49):
But what I can tell you is thatthe one that was fatedly chosen
for me happened to be somethingthat I have really wanted to
play with.
In front of a
Casey (25:00):
crowd.
Kari (25:01):
Well, I mean, I wanted to play with it in general.
The crowd was the bonus.
Exactly.
And then, well, the ladies werethe bonus.
The crowd was, I didn't eventhink there was a crowd there.
I'll be honest.
When I was experiencing this, Ididn't even think once about a
crowd being there.
Welcome
Casey (25:16):
to how it feels being a performer.
Yeah,
Kari (25:18):
like not even, like, I'm not even there.
But I landed on hot wax.
Yeah, you did.
And so, I'm like, I'm clappingon stage.
We have
Casey (25:29):
video of it too.
You spun the wheel and you'relike, so excited.
You're this little girl that'slike, Oh yeah, I got the thing.
Kari (25:36):
Okay.
Where do you want me?
And so they like set me on thisbanking bench and I think there
was four candles.
Yeah.
Casey (25:45):
And two for
Kari (25:46):
each person.
And just.
All over my body.
Yeah.
It, it was they, my neck, myshoulders, my, your thighs.
My thighs.
Like your breasts.
I was getting there everywhere.
And so, and, and I could tellthat the, the lady performing
was like, this has to beelevated.
(26:06):
So she was, she was.
Letting the wax, like build upon the sticks.
And then she would like sling iton my legs and she would do that
a bit.
And so all of a sudden I justfeel it like sling up against
me.
And then she like stood up andthen she started like letting it
drip on my chest.
And then she just pulled myfucking dress to the side.
Casey (26:24):
And it was like one titty and other titty.
Kari (26:27):
Yeah.
And again, no audience.
Right.
So I'm just like me, this girl,we're doing this.
This is great.
And then there was a briefmoment where I was like.
I think my titty is completelyout from my angle.
I couldn't really tell,honestly, but from my angle,
yeah, from, I couldn't tellfully that my titty was out and
it wasn't until I saw the videoslater on.
(26:48):
I was like, Oh yeah, no, that
Casey (26:49):
was, that was like, you got off stage.
I was like, you realized theyjust pulled your titties and
that was a whole ass city.
And you were like, wait, theydid what?
Kari (26:56):
Like, what's this?
You know, angles.
I don't fucking
Casey (26:59):
know.
Well, of course, both of us werefine with it, right?
It was something where it waslike, that was a hell of a show,
hell of an experience.
I mean, the crowd was goingwild.
Like we, you had you doing yourthing.
You had Ophelia doing her thing.
Both of y'all were justengaging, experiencing life
together and stuff.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
And it was, it was a lot of goodfun for y'all.
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I'm sitting at the front.
Me and my, I have my camera,like my camera phone out and I'm
sitting there like kind of theside, trying not to get too much
in front of the crowd beforerealizing like, wait a minute,
that's my wife on stage.
Yeah.
Fuck you guys.
Get out of my way.
I'm getting right into the frontof this.
And so I got some good video ofit.
And it was, but that part was,was such a good fun.
Kari (27:43):
I was pretty sure it took me like 10 minutes to dig all of
the wax off my
Casey (27:48):
nipple ring.
Girl, you were digging wax outthe next day.
I was
Kari (27:51):
finding wax the next day and I'm like, there is still wax
on me and I'm still really happyabout it.
Casey (27:59):
Oh, there's a memory.
Oh, look, there's anothermemory.
But that part, I mean, that wasa lot of fun.
So we, we continue to make ourway around where, of course, we
like picked up our shirts.
We, we, we ran into people, raninto people that we knew, like
randoms too.
And sometimes it'd be like, Oh,I know you from this.
Yeah.
(28:19):
And talk for a little bit.
We, we got recognized a coupleof times for our show, which
was, I mean, that was a lot offun.
We're still like, Hey,
Kari (28:28):
Hey, you know, like, wait, y'all are, yes, we are.
Casey (28:32):
Got to have some good pictures taken like all
together.
It was a, it was a fun event.
We had a good night.
We
Kari (28:39):
had a really good time and we looked hot as fuck.
Yeah.
We have pictures up onInstagram.
Go take a look.
I am kind of glad I didn't wearlatex though, because it was so
hot and like these peoplewearing like full ass body.
Oh, yeah.
Let's talk about some of thecostumes we saw or some of the
dresses.
I mean, Bravo, man.
Bravo.
I don't know that, like, I don'tknow that you could ever be in
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something like that.
You're too.
Casey (29:02):
Yeah, I, I too, I have too much of like a skin issue.
Like you can
Kari (29:05):
barely, you can't even wear skinny jeans without
freaking the fuck out.
Casey (29:11):
I put those on and I'm like, get them off, get off, get
off.
I cannot imagine you insomething like latex or
something.
But there was, I mean, ifanybody's ever seen, you know,
the Norse god Loki with thehorns, there was somebody there
that was in all black latex,head to toe.
I'm talking like no skinshowing, nothing showing.
And they had these big blacklatex horns that just protruded
(29:34):
out of the top.
Of this, of their head and theywere walking around with them
and their partner.
We were like, Holy shit.
I
Kari (29:42):
like that.
The other one didn't have horns.
I think they had like ears orsomething, but and then there,
there was
Casey (29:49):
like, my favorite was the, the bitch boy.
I, I'd be just calling him thebitch boy.
It was this, it was a latexalmost like a French maid
outfit.
Yes.
But it was pink and black, sothere was like the, he was
carrying a sign.
What did the ruffled frillyshoulder pads and the skirt and
everything like if you've everseen little Nikki and there's
the scene where Hitler, whereHitler's in hell and they're
(30:11):
going to shove a pineapple uphis ass.
It was like, that is the, thatis what it looked like.
Just pink and black, but pink.
And he had a sign on the frontof him.
That was something along thelines of like, I'm this person's
little bitch.
Treat me in whatever way allthat goes up and he was on, he
Kari (30:27):
was on a leash, he was on a leash and again, he was
wearing the highest heels I'veever seen.
There's no fucking way I couldwalk in heels like that ever,
never will I ever be able to dothat.
It was very
Casey (30:38):
impressive.
Me neither.
But by the end of the night, wesaw many people kicking off
their heels and like takingrefuge barefoot.
Kari (30:45):
That was, that was really cute, honestly.
And there was this little likearrow people were starting to
like dance and stuff becausethere was this big show or
performance that was happeningon stage or something.
I'm kind of surprised youhaven't brought that up yet.
What the stage performances?
Yeah.
Well, it was
Casey (30:58):
last.
So this was, this was close tome.
This was around the time that wewere getting ready to take
Kari (31:02):
off.
Yeah, because I was being abitch about my own feet.
Casey (31:05):
But the very last performance.
Was a Shabari performance.
I've got, I got to find out thename.
Okay.
So it was, I'm going to butcherthis fucking name.
It was Saki Kimiju.
Yes, I think is what, is whatthe name was.
So S A K I K A M I J O O you canfind them on Instagram.
Saki Kamiju one, I believe iswhat it is.
(31:26):
But their, their Shibariperformance was unreal.
Awesome.
They had this big rig set up onstage, metal rig.
They brought themselves out.
They brought their, their modelout and this, I mean, it almost
started off with them, likewhipping.
The model.
I don't know if you caught that.
I did.
I
Kari (31:43):
did.
From
Casey (31:44):
across the stage.
They took whatever was in theirhand.
It went bam and slapped him likeright in the
Kari (31:49):
stomach.
And I think that they, yeah,they did.
But remember they had like robeover them for a bit.
So they were like the ropebottom was had this like rope
and the road was facedbackwards.
So like the arms were in theback.
You couldn't see their body atall.
And you saw all these ropes likeslinging and that's when you're
like, I guarantee you they'redoing like this tie, but they're
(32:11):
just not showing the crowd likewhat type of time.
Casey (32:13):
Yeah, that's right.
She was, yeah, she was puttinginto the TK behind the back
degree angle tied together and
Kari (32:19):
then they like ripped off the robe and then there was the
model and then it was like goingmore into like the tying and
moving their body all around andlike suspending them up and like
letting a leg go and then itwould
Casey (32:30):
fall.
Well, my favorite thing aboutthat was.
The choreography to the, to, tothe tempo of the music.
So there would be times wherethey were having this very like
smooth music playing and theperformer was moving at that
tempo, very soft, smooth, verylike intimate and all that.
And then they would just speedit up double time.
(32:51):
And during the double time, theywere like, I mean, there's ropes
flying.
There were knots being formed.
There was pulling, there wassuspension.
And then they also did a drop.
Kari (33:00):
They did a big drop.
That was.
Casey (33:02):
So if you don't know what a drop is in that it's where you
go from one position and theyalmost just let one of the ropes
loose.
You're still suspended, but itdrops you into another position.
It's a very big thing.
And it like watching this wasmesmerizing.
I really wish we had been closerat that point, but it was next
Kari (33:18):
year.
Next year we will definitely geta table.
Casey (33:20):
Next year we'll be buying like a, one of the boxes.
On the side.
That's what I was into becausethey had a couple of
Kari (33:26):
suites.
They did have this like wholelike VIP area in the very, very
back that we're like, no, wewould never do that.
But then there was one to likethe left of the stage or stage,
right?
Wait, which one is it?
Stage left.
Okay.
Wow.
I was right.
Okay.
Stage left.
But they're just like thislittle like seating area.
That's definitely something thatwe're going to do next time.
Casey (33:45):
Place that The place you can get drinks at.
But
Kari (33:47):
then there were like dancers that were also like
performing throughout.
They had an area for you just todance in general.
They had like DJs and stuff inbetween.
It was, that
Casey (33:56):
was, that was a, we, we didn't ever got the chance to
meet them, but DJ alley cat wasthere.
It was a Vegas DJ, somebody thatattended the ball that night
that we're familiar with, thatmet up with us there.
It's it's one of their friends.
So they're like, Oh man, y'allneed to hear DJ alley cat.
We're hoping
Kari (34:10):
to meet them, but it just didn't fully get to work out
that time.
But we really, and then evenhave like an outdoor area, which
was nice.
Cause like I was saying earlier,it was really hot in there.
And so you're able to gooutside.
They had a latex station, a lubestation, lube station.
That's what it was.
Thank
Casey (34:27):
you.
It's like for all you people.
Wearing your latex that it'sstarting to like stick to you.
Here's some
Kari (34:33):
lube.
They were literally just likelubing people up in latex.
Like you can go back through andsee a lot of their videos and
it's just the two like lubegirls.
Like it
Casey (34:42):
was cool.
They did a good, but they're, Imean, the, the overall, the
costumes that we saw, the dressthat we saw lots, like lots of
skirts, lots of latex, lots ofPVC, lots of, I mean, just good
material, lots of mesh.
Lots of fishnets, lots of nipple
Kari (34:57):
pasties, lots of pretty like the makeup that everybody
did.
There was a lot of guys thatwere in like corsets and skirts
and
Casey (35:05):
which is what I wanted to do.
I want to do a kill.
Kari (35:08):
We did want to find
Casey (35:09):
you a kill.
I wanted to find like a Like afucking ankle high.
I wanted to go like a long blackkilt.
Well,
Kari (35:16):
we will find you.
We have a year.
So if anybody
Casey (35:18):
knows where I can get
Kari (35:20):
a long black, I know where you can get a long black kilt,
Etsy.
Casey (35:24):
Boom.
I went like leather.
Oh, absolutely.
Chains and shit.
Speaking Etsy's language.
Ultra mobile.
Kari (35:34):
No, we will definitely be going next year.
We'll have a different setup.
We'll probably end up inviting aguest or inviting someone from
the show.
Casey (35:41):
What we'll probably do is, is we're going to, we're
going to look at getting one ofthe side suites and then hosting
that as our collaborativepartners.
Hey, if you're a photographerwith us, you get invited.
Hey, if you're.
If you collaborate with us on abig way, then you get to have a
seat where you are.
Treat come out with us likethat's what it's going to be all
about.
(36:02):
Dallas fetish ball.
2023 was fucking fantastic.
And I
Kari (36:06):
cannot wait to do it next year.
I know we're going to have a,and I'm going to look way
hotter.
I'm going like, this was ourfirst one.
We didn't really know what towear.
We look good, but next year itwill be very different.
Yeah,
Casey (36:18):
I mean, you did look hot, but yeah, looking like a gothic
katana from mortal combat overhere.
All right.
I slit dress all black.
Kari (36:29):
So glad I wore underwear.
So I was not going to wearunderwear.
Casey (36:33):
Then you're on stage in front of everybody.
Kari (36:35):
And I was going back through the video.
Cause again, I don't have anymemory of it, but I was going
back through the video and sheliterally took that slant that
center slit that I had flipped.
I'm like, that would have justbeen straight vagina.
That would have been nothing.
It just would have been straightvagina.
Happy
Casey (36:53):
birthday, I guess.
So we had a blast doing it.
Look guys, we've been absent forthe last three weeks and we've
been itching to get back on air.
And here we
Kari (37:02):
are, but we've also been doing a lot of like talks on
like different things that we'regoing to discuss.
And we've been doing a lot ofcontent creation.
Like we weren't just likefucking around.
Yeah.
Like we have stuff set up nowand, and I do love kind of
taking these breaks a little bitto give us more to talk about,
to like, kind of like bring thatfire back up.
You know, we can't be on all thetime.
(37:24):
We can.
No, we can't.
No, I can't.
I'm not cool enough to be on allthe time.
Casey (37:28):
Oh Lord.
Anyway, that's our show fortoday for another episode of
come with Casey.
I'm Dr.
Casey Sanders and I'm justCarrie.
We'll see you next time.
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