Andy and James are back! We've missed you, but after some hilariously over-the-top scheduling snafus, we're back and broadcasting from Minnesota to Melbourne for the start of our FOURTH season of this podcast for Porsche enthusiasts by Porsche enthusiasts.
Buckle up as we share our Porsche escapades from over the last few months, from the laughable to the downright heart-pounding.
Revel in our tales of the high seas and high stakes with the Felicity Ace saga, where luxury cars met a watery grave and sparked conversations about the future of electric vehicle fires. Feel the pride as we showcase our latest projects, including those slick custom automotive tach faces that are sure to add a personal stamp to any Porsche interior. But it's not all smooth sailing—there's the tale of Andy's missed rally due to a surprise injury, a testament to life's unexpected twists, and the unyielding spirit of the rally community.
Lastly, we get real about our undying love for the 964 models, painting vivid pictures of Tasmanian drives and the pulse-quickening excitement of dodging disaster at car events. We swap stories with fellow Porsche fanatics and look ahead to the legendary Tail of the Dragon. So, start your engines and join us for stories that fuel our shared passion of Porsche.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello, this is Andy speaking Andy.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Andy, who was I calling Andy?
Andy who?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Is this a prank?
Call Andy Gawnt James McGraw.
My ears do not deceive me.
I am talking to you and you aretalking to me.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Dude, seriously, how long has it been?
It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Not long enough.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I have been getting requests like not non-stop, but
certainly every day, from atleast one person saying hey,
when are you and Andy going torecord again?
When is next?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
I have even been telling thesame people the same lie, like
week of week of week, we aregoing to record this Friday,
there will be another episodeany second, and then we
(00:52):
ultimately don't record onFriday.
And then I have found myselflying.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I have been telling them I died.
Have you not heard, andy?
Andy is no longer with us.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, at one point I was considering some
kind of prank like that, just soI could record something and
get it out there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Special Memorial Edition podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Exactly, exactly, we are back.
We are back.
Well, so it is 2024.
We are back.
It is Kerbin Canyon.
Porsche Infusia asks talkingshit on a podcast and hopefully
someone is going to listen.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's it, guys, and hopefully this is hopefully you
are back with us, but it mightbe that it is your first time as
well.
This is a Porsche podcast byPorsche Enthusiasts.
We are just a couple ofknuckleheads who love these cars
.
We are not automotivejournalists.
Most of the time, we don't evenknow what we are talking about,
to be fair.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We are talking about the way to tears up Awesome Half
the people that wereconsidering hanging up.
Already it's stopped and theyhave gone back to their Taylor
Swift album.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Hey, nothing wrong with that.
Welcome to Kerbin Canyon.
All right, so it's been aminute.
(02:24):
Huh, it's been a minute, yeahit has.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It went from being a couple of weeks to a month, to a
couple of months, and now it'snearly springtime.
Here in beautiful Minnesota itmust be gearing up for winter
down under right.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, yes.
So tell me what is thetemperature in Minnesota today?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
All right.
Well, technically it's freezing, but it's nowhere near as cold
as it has been the last 10 yearsI've lived here.
We usually under two or threefeet of snow at this point and
colder than the Arctic Circle,but actually we've had snow once
or twice this season and it'smelted pretty quickly.
So you know, it's just brightblue skies, it's dead grass and
(03:06):
it's not so cold that it'll killyou and even some of my die
hard.
You know winter fobes, like mymate Chris, who put their cars
away all winter and torturedthemselves.
Even he actually got it outbefore the end of February,
which is a miracle.
Yeah, Mr GT3 touring.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So yeah it's good, it's good, good, good.
So we're back here.
Today is going to be 39 degreesCelsius, which is 102
Fahrenheit, just shoot me.
So it is hot as balls.
We should probably talk aboutjust, I guess, by way of
explanation of why it's beensuch a break for the two of us.
(03:48):
You know it's tricky.
James is in Minnesota, I am inMelbourne, in Australia, and you
know the time difference istough and sometimes life just
gets in the way.
You know, we've got families,we've got jobs.
This is something we lookforward to, but I was going to
tally up the amount of timeswe'd each canceled on each other
(04:09):
because we have got to recordthis podcast so many times and
there was a period where I waspretty certain that you had
canceled on me more than I'dcanceled on you.
But I think, towards the end, Ithink I came home strong.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know it's funny.
I've been sort of keeping amental tally along those lines
and I think we're pretty close,come on.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You canceled on me plenty.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There have been a couple of times where I've
thought, ok, andy's canceledlike three weeks in a row, now
We've got to start recording,just so I can take the piss out
of you for it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That's true, because when you get a run on of
cancellations, it's like if youwould cancel on me a couple of
times in a row.
I started to feel a little bitlike I'm the only one committed.
This motherfucker keeps lettingme down.
It's all him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So I've got to admit this All right.
So, for those who don't know,our recording window is like
Friday afternoon Minnesota timeand Saturday morning kangaroo
time, and I'm now at thesituation where you know I'm
working from home All three kidsare out of the house on a
(05:19):
Friday at school and my meetingsare pretty light on a Friday.
So there have actually beenquite a few times when I've
decided to like take anafternoon nap and I've set my
alarm like 20 minutes beforewould you just start recording.
And there have been quite a fewafternoons where I've woken up,
looked at my phone and you'relike, oh mate, I can't make it.
(05:40):
You know whatever reason.
And I reply back going.
Oh you dickhead, I can't believeit.
And then just like turn myphone off and go straight back
to sleep.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
There was one a few weeks ago where I think we both
just flat out forgot I had nomessage from you, you had no
message from me.
And then, and then you, still,you still took the moral high
ground and messaged me later andsaid I can't believe you forgot
about us.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh, absolutely.
Do you have any idea how much Iwas laughing as I was writing
that text message to you and notonly that, taking screenshots
of our conversations and postingthem on social media.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't, you know, I actually don't remember the
substance of that particularexchange, but I was so appalled.
I have so, so appalled by whatyou were telling me, and and and
appreciated my, my response somuch that I just had to share it
with the world.
Oh, brilliant.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, you know it is, it's, it's.
I mean I've got to say it'sgreat to be chatting to you.
I feel like we haven't, becausewe don't really speak when
we're not podcasting.
We message each other off andon but we don't actually have a
chance to talk.
So this is great and you knowwe've got.
We've got some stuff to getthrough.
And again, if this is yourfirst time listening to the
Kerban Canyon podcast, we'll doa little bit of news.
We tend to talk about our carsa lot.
(07:06):
They they bring us fun andheartache.
And then and then stuff we'vebeen doing drives, we've been on
events, We've been to anythingthat kind of tickles our fancy.
And then we'll finish with ourvideo of the week, which this
week I think is a cracker.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm excited and I've actually watched the video of
the week.
In fact, not only have Iwatched the video of the week, I
knew which one it was when yousent it to me, because I saw it
when it landed about a week ago.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Really.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah.
And then, after so long, I youknow, start to take care of
business.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, who did the show notes for today?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You as always.
And guess what?
I read them, did not read them.
You wait, did you send themover?
I got the show notes Look look,I, I appreciate the
professionalism, I appreciatethe organization, but at the
same time it's borderline, youknow, kind of controlled fun,
(08:08):
and that's where show notes justsort of you know itch me a
little bit.
But yeah, let's, let's followthe show notes, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Topic number one I'm so glad we're going to get into
this.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know like let's let's talk about how we run our
podcast on the podcast.
That's the sort of insidebaseball.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
People tune in for.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Okay, so I'm going to .
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I'm going to straight away deviate from the show
notes because we do have topicnumber one, but there was a
thing that came out maybe threeweeks ago that Delta is a.
Delta Airways are using a GT3RSto get people who are
desperately late for their planeonto the plane driving across
the tarmac.
Now, have you seen?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
this Dude.
I have seen that and actuallythat's not the first time I've
seen Delta collaborating withPortia, because there are quite
a few airports in the US whereyou're looking out of the window
waiting for the skybridge orwhatever it is.
You know it's going to get youoff the plane and there is a
Delta branded take-am or a Deltabranded Cayenne turbo, just you
(09:12):
know, down below waiting for,like I wonder, you know what's
going on.
So now we know a little bitmore, I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But so is every one of those examples you just used
made makes sense to me.
Now I get that In having avehicle of the nine eleven
variant sitting on the tarmacthat gives maximum opportunity
for exposure and kind of thatwow factor right like this is
how seriously we take gettingyou onto your plane on time.
(09:43):
But the fact that it's a GT3 RS, at least just go a GT3.
So you've got the Frank likethis.
Literally no way to putanything in a GT3 RS.
So unless you are travelingwith your passport and your
wallet and nothing else, noteven a laptop bag, you can't
screwed.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, also there are speed limits in
airports, so right, you know,you're right there.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
so and everything slow.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, exactly, and I don't know about the rest of the
world, but in the US, everyairport has its own police force
, basically, and they actuallyhave cops sat around the airport
with speed cameras catchingbaggage towers who are driving
too fast.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, so good luck getting to your plane at 15
miles an hour and you GT3 RSImagine eventually they'll be
selling that car and it'll bethe car that has all of the all
of the mechanical issues,because it's never been driven
over 20 miles.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Exactly.
Yeah, I think that's a bitridiculous yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It is.
Although, that said, if I wastraveling Delta and I managed to
score myself a ride at 20 milesan hour across the tarmac in a
GT3 RS, I'm sure I'd be justvideoing that whole thing and
saying check me out my phone'son social media.
That still be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah.
Just so many things wrong withthat picture.
Like, have you also ever triedto go out onto the tarmac?
Once you've on an airplane, yougotta get off the plane, you
gotta walk up the jet bridge,you gotta go through a secure
door, you gotta walk back downthrough a bunch of stairs along
a corridor and then out onto thetarmac.
By that time you could havegotten to the gate you were
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trying to fucking drive to inthe first place.
It's ridiculous.
Can you tell how much I'magainst this idea?
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Am I the only one thinking of Jim Carrey?
And dumb and dumb, it's okaydriver?
No, I agree.
When you, when you, when youtraveling by plane, there is
nothing worse than when theypull up and you have to go down
the stairs onto the tarmac, andeven worse if you have to get
(11:54):
into one of those damn shuttlebuses.
It's like can I just where'sthe average?
Just take me into the airport.
I do not want to be outsideright now.
So yeah, I agree, I'm againstit.
I think it's kind of goofy.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I get it, it's a publicity stunt, but you know, I
think I'm we're gonna soundlike two, two old men are just
whining, but I'm gonna rearrangesome of the words in that last
sentence of yours, which isquite literally this there is
nothing worse than traveling byplane.
I fucking hate air travel.
I hate it.
(12:27):
I've been doing business travelfor so many years.
This last month I've gone toPhoenix three times from
Minneapolis and I just I'm donethat.
You know, tsa check in it'sstill bad.
Pre check alright, it's good,you don't have to take shoes off
, your belt off and all thatbollocks.
But I just I'm not gonna gothrough all the reasons why I
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hate it, because there are lotsof them, but like, I'm done if I
can just like stay in myhometown or drive to wherever I
need to go.
Game on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Flying to the grumpy old travelers podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
know I once I once got I used to fly to Toronto a
lot and Toronto customs they'repretty tough, they're oh yeah,
I've been there many times yeah,dude, and if you I mean if you
fly in a vancouver, they're likeyo come in, you fly into
Toronto and they're tough.
But I had, I had a bit of aroutine down.
(13:23):
I would always get in linewhere the customs official was
younger and female and then Iplay the role of the kind of
tired Australian traveler, right.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'd be like Can I?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
hey go, and I'd really ham up the whole
Australian thing this one time Iget there and I was so tired
and there was one line that hadnobody waiting but the guy, the
customs official.
He looked like a US Marine andI thought no, he'll be fine, and
I tried my whole you know goofytired Aussie stick with him and
(13:59):
it was not washing at all.
He looked at me single raisedeyebrow like hey, sunshine, I
didn't just come, I didn't comedown in the last hour of seeing
your type before, so I put thelittle mark on my customs entry
form.
That said, I had to go into thenext room, right, and I'm
thinking, oh great, so I'mexpecting to go in there and
(14:21):
hear the thwack of the rubberglove and all that sort of
business.
Why go in there?
Do you know who's standingthere?
Richie Sambora from Bon Jovi?
Yeah, so I don't know.
Talking to you, sam, or isamazing?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
This is so cool three fingers in a rubber glove shift
up your ass and I must have awonderful conversation.
I did, I did.
I said how did you write livingon it?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Whoa anyway, good look, good times, good times.
So we do have an actual newsarticle on my very well prepared
show notes, which is motor.
One is reporting via Bloombergthat you remember the.
You remember the Felicity Ace,the whole, the ship that sank,
with all of the.
I had a hundred and eightporches on it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, and that was not during the pandemic,
when there was already ashortage of cars, and all of
these beautiful cars that peoplehave been waiting for were just
got scuppered to the bottom ofthe ocean.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The start of twenty twenty two maybe, and it was.
I mean it was.
It was a lot of cars, it was alot of porches and in fact, but
it was like a stack of outies.
There's the four hundred outies, there's bentley's,
lamborghinis, all sorts of stuff, vauxwagens.
Well, so it's emerged that theybelieve the fire that brought
(15:40):
the ship down was started by abattery in a Porsche.
Yeah, so yeah, what a bummer.
It's gonna happen, it's gonnahappen is this but is this the
future that the head of us now,when we're gonna have fully
electrified camons and boxersthat is gonna be burning down
people's houses?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh yeah, I'm sure they will absolutely, and I bet
you they have done already aboutyou.
I've seen at least half a dozenarticles about Tesla's catching
fire in the last you know sortof four or five years.
That Leave me to believe thatit happens all the time yeah,
I'm not fear mongering about avisa.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, no, no and actually, yeah, absolute bummer.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's a pity for the Porsche brand that it happened,
but it's not gonna be the last,and there are gonna be hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds ofthem of those scenarios which
don't make it into the press,but I think it's just part of
life, you know?
I mean, how many, how many carshave blown up or had wheels
falling off or yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, gas tank of gas
(16:46):
fumes getting in the cabin andit.
You know, shit happens.
But unfortunately they're inthe news and There'll be the
spotlight on for a little while.
But hey, if it sparks someinnovation and you know Porsche,
come out with a better batterythat cools and last longer than
you know, it's not the end ofthe world.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Did you deliberately use the word sparks?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Is that no?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So apparently they've known about it for ages.
So, because what's happening isthat the shipping company and
their insurance company a suingPorsche, and this is Since the
start of last year, apparently,but we're only just hearing
about it now.
So, anyway, interesting,whatever, all I know is there's
a hundred and eighty something.
(17:36):
Porsches at the bottom of thesea?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, that's there.
I'm sure there's a joke inthere somewhere.
I mean, you know the lawyerjoke.
There must be.
I don't know what's.
What's?
One person, porsche taken and400 out.
He's in the bottom of the ocean.
Good start, thank you foreventually laughing at that joke
.
Thank you for eventuallylaughing at that joke.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Hey, now I see you've got down.
You've been pumping out Taco,different tack faces.
There's some really cool onescan say tacos.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, I was in Phoenix the other week and I had
a lot of Mexican food.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It was great tacos burritos, breakfast burritos so
tell me, tell me, tell me aboutthese tech faces, because I do.
They look really good, likegreat quality oh yeah, I'm
really excited about it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So I you know of all the things I've dabbled in in my
auto ammage journey so farthere have been two or three
months that have been reallysuccessful.
At the joy auto car play, onewas Like a booming success.
I've sold a bunch of thoseunits and I've done now it's
(18:50):
gotta be over 50 jobs myselfpersonally around the country
into other people's cars.
So that was, that was a big one.
And then my my deviated.
My colored Tag faces weremassive.
They were really popular, butunfortunately my supplier was
doing business with a thirdparty.
That third party went under.
(19:12):
Long story short, the qualityjust dips unfortunately took a
massive dive towards the end.
So I just kind of pulled themfrom my website and I thought
you know, if it's not somethingI'm willing to put into my own
car, I'm not having someone elseput it into their car, you know
.
So I saw, so I pulled them andit's been about a year now maybe
since some I've designed anyinsult any, but I just happen to
(19:34):
come across a new supplier.
That's a bunch of R&D into thematerials, the designs.
They've got this really slickprinting process which I don't
want to bore you but basicallyprints and reprints all of the
stuff like multiple times onmultiple layers, and it's just
that they are excellent quality,just really super quality.
(19:57):
So, yeah, I'm really excited.
I've got a bunch of Customstyles that are available on my
website and I'm no longer justdoing them for 99 ones and the
more modern kind of cars thatshare the same instrument,
cluster size, but Firstgeneration and second generation
chi ends, the 996, the 997.
(20:20):
I got for the nine actuallyhappened for the 964, if you're
interested in the other, the 993.
But yeah, super cool and I'mactually gonna be installing
seven in my own car this weekend.
I've got these black ones withgreen letters, you know green
numbers and these retro kind ofrings around the outside.
(20:40):
They look so sharp and prettyexcited.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's really interesting.
Tell me more about the printing, wow just kidding.
No, they look.
I have to say.
I looked on your socials andyou could just tell you the
quality is great.
I don't want to turn this intoan auto amateur store ad, but
but yeah, I was.
I was super impressed If I wasinto the world.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Thank you very much.
Why aren't you into that kindof stuff?
I'll get you a green one forlittle green.
I'll put your face on it in themiddle.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'd rather have your face, and like your eyebrows, go
up every time the car revs.
That'd be good.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
No, I'm only in plus.
I'm in plus, mm-hmm.
So, speaking of mods andupdates, how is Bluey 2e?
I see some stripes Now againfor people who perhaps haven't
tuned into our podcast beforewhat is Bluey?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
2e.
Bluey 2e is a Porsche A 911,991.2, carrera Coupe
Blah-dee-blah-dee-blah.
It's lovely.
I'm so happy with it.
Very nice, it's really cool.
Yeah, I'm really glad I got it.
Yeah, I got rid of originalBluey, my 996 Project car, last
summer, and within a few weeks Ipicked this one up and I it's.
(22:08):
In many ways it feels verysimilar to my 991.1,
unsurprisingly because it's thesame generation.
But the subtle changes and thedifferences between the two
generations really make this carvery special and very different
to drive the turbochargedengine, the lower torque, just
(22:28):
some of the some of therefinements here and there and
the styling and the body.
Yeah, I'm super excited and thecolor keeps growing on me.
It's graphite blue, metallic,which was one of the special
colors that they offered in thatgeneration.
Some days it kind of looks likea gray, some days it sort of
(22:52):
looks like a steely blue, otherdays it looks completely
different again, depending onthe light.
I got a lot of complimentsactually about the color and I
guess I feel like I reallyhaven't had a chance to work on
it very much so far.
I've owned it for just over sixmonths, seven or eight months
now, but I was looking back overthe list of things that I have
done, and it's quite a lot, andI've still got more to do, more
(23:16):
to go.
So, yeah, it's going to be afun summer and a fun spring if I
can just get myself in thegarage and get myself out on the
road.
My videos have gone from, youknow, sort of one a month to one
every kind of three months, andso I'm really slacking on the
video front, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You've moved into the last rasp?
Yeah, but you see the problem.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Let me tell you what the problem is.
There and actually some of myfriends I was at a Porsche event
the other weekend.
We were talking about you andwe were talking about last rasp
and we're talking about some ofthe really good content creators
out there and I can't rememberwhat they said, but I'll boil it
down for you.
Basically, you go away for acouple of months and then you
(24:04):
turn out this absolutely breathtaking, beautiful, stunning, you
know sort of epic five minutevideo and just wow everybody.
I don't put a video out for acouple of months, but then I
come out with a video and it'sbasically the same old shit, is
the same standard.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Everyone wants that for me.
That's why it works.
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh God, yeah, I don't know.
It's not like I spend themonths in between releasing my
video, you know, really tryingto up my craft and up the game.
I do, I do try a little bit,but God damn it.
Andy Gawnt, yeah, every timeyou put out a video I just sit
back and sigh and put my head inmy hands Funny is?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't.
Most of what I watch on YouTubeisn't like that, like lately
I've been getting into.
Is it Adam LZ?
Yeah, he's a drifter, he's.
He's.
He's got some some.
He's had some Porsche content onhis channel but he's bought
this mint nine six four coupewhich was a tiptronic, and he's
(25:10):
been, he's done some kind ofdeal with eBay motors and he's
converted it to manual and he'sdone a rebuild on the engine and
he's done all of these things.
And I'm loving watching hiscontent because he goes in deep
on what he's doing on the carand what's really interesting is
I think and someone mightcorrect me, but I think he's
(25:34):
somewhat of an air cooledportion novice and so he's
really working this stuff out ashe's going and it's it's great
to watch and, honestly, themodifications he's making to
that car he's not done anythinggoofy Like they've all been
really well curated and thoughtthrough and each time he drops a
video, which is maybe once aweek, it's like 20 minutes of OK
(25:58):
.
Today the engine's going backin the car and we're going to
drive it for the first time likebig steps.
Yeah really really cool.
And it's not.
It's not high production values, it's just really super
interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's good, all right.
I'm feeling a little bit betterabout life, so you know it's
not the end of all.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's all about the personality, dude.
It's all about the personality.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hey, now speaking of drifters, I was in Florida last
weekend at Works Reunion.
I actually shipped my car downthere so that I could put it in
the the corral and drive around.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You just had to shit your car.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Shit, oh right, sorry P for penis.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Just speak a little more clearly.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So it's, it's.
It's the Friday morning morning, in the event.
I'm there with Jay Reed andMichael Wooten, michael Motsom
meets and the three of us aregoing in convoy to to the show.
They're in front of me, theyget out into the road first, and
then there must have been ohGod, I don't know like 20
Porsches in a row driving reallyclose together.
So I'm waiting my turn to getout after these 20 beautiful
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Porsches leave this souped up.
I think it was a, it was eithera Honda Accord or it was a
Subaru and Prats up, but itlooked like it had a spray paint
kind of paint job.
They had a big wing on the back, it was lowered, you know, the
windows were down, the music wasblaring and you could just see
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this thing come in a mile.
So I'm waiting at thisroundabouts and the guy puts
himself into a drift to go roundthe roundabouts and misses the
front of my car by like Musthave been millimeters.
It was like I was basicallythinking to myself oh, that's it
, that's my front bumper gone.
I hope it's just my frontbumper that goes.
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He was so close so he driftedpast the front of my car and and
you could just hear themlaughing out of the window as
they were doing it, which really, really pissed me off, missed
my car, managed to get it backunder control but then as they
went and took the exit off theroad, they slammed into the
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central reservation drifting theother way and I think like his
rear wheel came off and therewas this massive there was this
massive like YouTube fail armykind of level bang and he and he
sort of just drifted off intothe side of the road.
I was, I was so ready to likeget out of the car and just go
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and beat the piss out of thembecause I was so close to my car
and I drove by and had mywindow down and the dude was
like in the front seat, steamyou know, like coming out of the
engine and you could tell likehe wasn't injured.
But he was a little bit dazedand confused and I put my window
down and part of me wanted tolike ask him if he was OK and I
was thinking about stopping andpulling over and seeing if he
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was OK, but I just instinctivelyscreamed at him you know, dumb
fuck.
I just screamed at him, you,dumb fuck.
And drove by and, quiteliterally, about three seconds
later, the car behind me and thecar behind that person, also
driving Porsches.
It was like we were singing anecho of dumb fuck, dumb fuck,
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you, dumb fuck.
Everyone was just laying intothis poor kid.
But, jesus, I swear to God, Iprobably would have broken a
bone if he'd have actually hitmy car.
I'm not a violent person, butJesus.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Wow, yeah, there's a lot to unpack there, Because I
mean secretly, yeah, like whenwe see someone do something that
dumb, there's absolutely thatmoment of well, hey, there's
justice.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You just you just yeah instant karma.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, love that, but then the chorus of dumb fuck or
everyone harmonizing.
I'm sort of hearing a Bee Geeskind of vibe yeah, no compassion
.
You should have helped.
You should have helped.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
No, no, no, no what I should have done.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Someone.
Probably there wasn't a YouTubefail video going on of the dude
crashing.
There'll be a video on YouTubeof Porsche owners pricks all
yelling poor guy who's crashed?
His car.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, maybe, maybe I haven't yet seen it arrive on
YouTube, but you know, I thinkyou know I, you know, like to
kindly ask him to step out ofhis car and lay down in traffic,
and let me just reverse overhim a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, that sounds fair.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Like, if you're going to do something stupid in your
car, do it on your own, whenthere's no risk of doing
anything.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh yeah, yeah.
So if you don't have, if youdon't I mean, it's been a good
few months that you've had thecar.
Now have you done any gooddrives?
Have we like tell the dragonanything?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well, I'm about five or six weeks away from going to
tell the dragon with with allthe guys, but but actually yeah.
So I went down to Florida forthis show, was there for a
couple of days.
It was always planning ondriving it back, but I was.
I was going to take my time andspend a few days kind of
driving it back.
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I ended up doing 1400 miles in21 hours.
I saw and drove all the way backto Minnesota in a single day, I
think it was.
I think it was nine in themorning when I left, when I left
Amelia Island and I got homejust before six am.
But anyway, on on the trip.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm pretty much must have smelled.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Smell like Diet Coke and coffee 24 cups of coffee.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It probably didn't smell as bad as kiss, kiss,
hello, she's like.
Oh why?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It probably didn't smell as bad as my trousers, you
know, lock a lot of time forfarting in 21 hours in a car,
Anyway.
So so I intentionally set myGPS to keep me off the
interstates.
So, yeah, man, the, the, theroads out of Florida were, you
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know what were, they weren't toospecial, but once I got into
Georgia and into Kentucky, Ithink it was, and into Missouri,
loads of really cool twistyturnies pretty much for hundreds
of miles.
Actually, you know, not nowherenear as challenging as the tale
of the dragon, but really,really entertaining.
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I mean, I think for these longroad trips I'm going to try and
stay off the interstates as muchas I can, because the, the
county roads here in a lot ofthose kind of central states
that you know have mountainsrunning through them, or you
know a lot of the Mississippirunning through them, which cuts
you know really nice contours.
That was really enjoyable,Awesome, and actually I came to
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a couple of you know really kindof spectacular scenes, like on
the tops of bluffs and acrossbridges, that I probably never
will have ever seen or thoughtto look at in these tiny little,
almost ghost towns in all ofthese different counties and
states, pulled over for roadsidebarbecue once or twice, which
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was really good.
You know, just some random dudewith a barrel on the side of
the road slow roasting ribs, andthen you know he's just had
some British guy in a Porschepull off and be like Hello, can
I have some barbecue please?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
He'd be looking around just thinking where the
hell am I?
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
And Gatorville, louisiana orwherever.
It was Six foot six, you knowginger head English guy asking
for ribs, but really good, yeah.
So you know, I did that and Idid a similar kind of strategy
on the way back from the, the,the Rocky Mountains when I tried
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to make it out to rent sportreunion.
Basically took the, the, the,the, the twisty Tony roads all
the way back through Coloradoand Wyoming and the Dakotas
until you got to Minnesota andthen it's all straight roads and
just boring as shit.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
But what is the difference between twisty and
turning?
Is it like country and Western?
So so so it's like chit, chat.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know, you know that's yeah, like what is chit
and what is chat.
Yeah that's a great question so.
So to me, a twisty road iswhere you know it's.
It's almost like chicanes andyou just you glide and you twist
a little bit from left to rightand you can you know you can
pick a path and you can just gofor it.
A turning road is like aswitchback, where you actually
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have to crank the wheel and getinto second and interesting.
Come on, Andy, you know this.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Everyone just calls them twisties.
You're the only person I knowthat calls them twisty turnies.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, well, I'm super .
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You always start saying oops, a daisy.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hey, maybe I will.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You probably already do.
Actually, that reminds me, Ialways said it when you pulled
up with with old mate on theside of the road.
You're getting out of your carand you're stepping a puddle.
Oops, you daisy.
May I have some?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
room.
Oops, you daisy.
So my I'm.
I'm famous for my potty mouth,I guess with my friends, and you
know, maybe I'm not proud of it, but I certainly drop the old
swear word every now and again.
However, around my kids I amgood as gold.
There is never a bad word thatslips out of my mouth when I'm
around my kids.
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The other day, the other day, mylittle five year old Adam.
I asked him if he could comeinto the living room so that I
could talk to him and as he gotup off the couch and put his
iPad down, he actually just sortof muttered under his breath oh
for fuck's sake, and I swear toGod, you didn't get that from
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me.
You did not get that from me.
And I've noticed I've noticednow because that that one thing
happened and I was like Adam,what did you just say?
And he's like just said whatmommy says.
Both Luke and Adam have startedto say like a couple of things
that my wife will say, and Iknow I don't want to throw my
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wife under the bus, but I knowthat I know that these things
have come from her, because onlyshe says these things in the
very particular way that shesays them.
There you go.
Brilliant, how about you?
So what's?
I've got a couple of things youknow, like how's Choco, my
favorite chocolate colored dog?
(37:12):
It looks like you've beentidying your garage, or at least
putting posters on the wall.
I mean, who are you?
Where's the mess gone?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
All right.
So so, first of all, your firstquestion is really confusing.
So, Sully, my black Labrador isabsolutely fine, rocco my good
mate who I drive with.
Happy birthday, rocco.
By the time this comes outit'll be, I think, the day after
your birthday.
But happy birthday, good sir.
Rocco is fine.
(37:42):
In fact, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,I'm gonna make a big shout out
to Rocco.
So last weekend was AlpineRange Rally nine, the ninth
running of the Alpine Range.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Rally nine Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And yeah, yeah, and I was so excited for this one and
we had Rocco and I had done arecce drive mid last year to
have a look at a road that wewanted to include in day one we
decided to add it into day one,making day one the biggest
single rally day we'd ever done.
But you know, this road waswell worth it.
I was so excited.
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So we leave on Friday morning.
Now you mentioned my garagebeing a little bit tidier on
Sunday, the Sunday before.
So five days out I was tidyingmy garage and I was.
I happened to be kneeling downand there were two slabs or
cases of beer and.
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I slid them together from sortof left to right whilst kneeling
down, which my physiotherapistwould tell me is a really bad
thing for somebody withvacations to do.
So the next morning I felt alittle sore in my back and I
thought, okay, that's from whatI did yesterday in the garage.
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That was dumb.
Well, tuesday morning, as I put, my shoe on my back just went,
and so I couldn't stand, Icouldn't walk, I was, I was in
big trouble.
And now.
So this is, this is Tuesday,and I've now have what?
Is it?
72 hours to heal my back beforeday one of the rally being
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Friday morning.
So late Thursday I messagedRocco and I said dude, there's
no way.
I've been trying.
I spent three days on my back,but I just couldn't, couldn't
make it.
So the rally actually happenedwithout me, which was oh, good
thing, Good thing.
Now I'll say one thing, I thinkbecause Rocco and I have
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organized it so many times nowit was something where I was
able to not go and it still wentsmoothly.
The maps were all great, thatyou know.
There weren't any issues withthat.
So I think we've got it apretty well-oiled machine going.
But yeah, Rocco, just he's like, don't worry about it, I'll
swing by your house, I'll pickup all of the merch, because we
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had these cool T-shirts made.
I'll pick up all the merch andyeah, it's cool.
And all he kept saying to me wasjust try and meet us somewhere,
just do that.
We just want you there, andunfortunately I couldn't.
I thought about driving to meetthem on the Saturday morning,
but there was no way.
It's really only now, a weeklater, that I'm able to really
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move or drive my car, so therewas no way I was doing six and a
half seven hours a day drivingthrough the twisties with
everybody and, as anyone who's along time listener or anyone
who will have seen any of myvideos on Alpine Rage Rally
knows, we always havecatastrophic weather conditions.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Always, oh yeah, it always rains More sooner.
What do you think the weatherwas like on this one Perfect
Perfection?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Absolute perfection.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
So I guess, you're going to be uninvited to future
rallies now.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Well, yeah, because my plan to phase my relevance
out is complete.
I'm not needed, but it's youknow what I mean.
Well, because I was in the leadup to this rally.
I was so excited because and Iwas saying to people, this is
great it's the first rally in along time where I don't feel
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like I'm rushing to get my carready.
I don't have to rush because.
So last year, my last rallyprior to this was Tasmania, and
for that rally I took littlegrain, my 1990, 964, c4 Coop,
and right before it it turnedout I needed to replace the
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clutch, and which is not a smalljob.
And then and to be honest, I'dtaken my car into my local
Porsche specialist, had themlooked at it.
All I wanted them to do was waschange the clutch pin, because
sometimes the clutch pin failsin my car and I didn't want it
to fail while I was away.
Well, that clutch pin turnedinto the clutch, then valve
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covers, then timing chainhousing.
It turned into an engine out.
Massive job.
And I picked the car up twodays before the rally with a
brand new clutch and the enginejust put back in it.
So I was, I must confess, tobeing somewhat concerned as I
loaded my car onto a boat totravel to an island state and
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have three days of hard rallying, with the engine only having
just been put in the car twodays prior.
And other than a other than asmall, there's a.
There's a cable that connectsthe reverse light, something
which came undone on on day oneof the rally and was dragging
along the ground.
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So we managed to just tape thatup, and other than that, it was
fine.
So I had three days of rallyingwith, with, with all my mates,
on incredible roads in the ninesix four, which was phenomenal,
and then Kath actually flew downand met me, and then we did
another four days of touring inthe nine six four around
Tasmania.
I did something like three anda half thousand kilometers.
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Bloody hell, the car wasincredible.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Absolutely incredible Like did.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
It did not miss a beat.
But yeah, that was a.
That was one hell of a mad rushto get it ready.
And yeah, this, this, thisrally.
I was thinking I don't need todo anything.
I'm so set.
The car was even clean anddetailed two weeks prior.
I thought I don't even have towash it.
I can just relax.
All I need to do, all I need todo is charge up the battery for
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my camera, charge up thebattery for my radio, and I'm
set I'll be able to jump in thecar Friday morning and happy
days.
And then age sort of got awayand said hey, listen listen old
timer, not so fast.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Oh mate, that sucks, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know what, though, I'vegot to say?
The lads were sending me photosevery day and the, if I'm
honest, I had a few low pointswhere I was looking at the
photos just thinking you can allfuck off, but but honestly, it
was really great and it lookedlike everyone was just I don't
know, it made me it was.
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It made me happy just seeingeveryone was just clearly really
enjoying it.
It looked like it was just areally good time.
There was some mind you, therewas some mechanical issues.
There were two cars that didn'tactually finish the journey,
which is oh really.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So my understanding is that on the new road that
Rocco and I had wrecked back inJuly, everyone drove in.
It's an in and out kind of road, right, you drive in it's like
40 minutes to this tiny littletown with a general store and
nothing else, and then you driveback out on the same road.
And so they had a great drivein and my buddy, simon, who has
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a 911 SC that is very hot-roddedit is a very, very cool car he
parked and some, some guy who Idon't know was staying in the
town, just asked him if he couldmove his car.
I think he was parked in frontof a petrol tank or something.
He said yeah, no problem, hegets in the car, goes to start,
it puts his foot on the clutch.
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The clutch cable snapped.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's like there's nothing you can't, there's no
coming back from that.
You know you can't cable tie it, you can't do it.
Yeah, so and then.
So, as they waited for the, forthe tow truck to arrive, in the
middle of nowhere, pj, who wassort of coming a few of the guys
(45:57):
had come, had left a little bitlater than the rest of the team
.
Pj rolled in in his 944, whichhad, he'll tell me, I'm wrong, I
think something wrong with aball joint maybe.
So both cars ended up beingtaken out of there on on a
flatbed tow truck.
Now, simon, credit to him.
He rode back with the tow truckand he owns he daily drives a
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Gen 1 997.
So on Saturday morning he gotup at 430 in the morning, drove
to Lake Centrance, which isthree hours away, to meet
everybody before then doing thesix or so hours of rallying.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
So he, he, yeah, he rejoined the group.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Now, I did that a few years ago.
I did a very similar thing, buton that particular day we
didn't drive near as far in theactual rally portion.
So yeah, he definitely gets theMVP, I think.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
For he's so.
He's too keen for my liking.
I just that's.
That's keen on a whole newlevel.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
I'm suspicious.
36 hours straight, didn't youLike that's keen.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
No, that's just stupid.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
So there's my question Is there a difference?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh, I'm sure there probably is.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Hey, so tell me about Amelia Island.
You did that was last weekend,right?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
It was, yeah, and actually you know perfect kind
of segue talking about littlegreen, because I spent a lot of
time this weekend in AmeliaIsland, just like really trying
to.
It's gonna sound really maybe alittle bit in either here or
there, but like just just reallytrying to be present and Not
(47:46):
worry about, you know, shootingvideos and not worry about what
we're doing in the evening, justlike I'm there for four or five
hours or however long it is.
I'm just gonna try and enjoythis as much as I can, and
especially, you know, being awayfrom work and family or
whatever.
So I think I've had arealization as I've looked and
spent a lot of time this pastweekend looking at pretty much
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every Generation and variants ofPorsche 911 ever released.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I think the 964 might be the perfect 911.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I Think yeah and I first I.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Didn't think I would ever say that I mean, I love the
964, don't get me wrong.
I always thought that I likedthe 993 a bit more than the 964,
and the more you know themodern Porsches, the 991.2 in
particular, I just absolutelylove.
But this weekend I think myheart was.
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I think my heart was taken with, at least what, what was?
Four or five, nine, six, fours.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
What was it what?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Well, I think, first off, there was a singer there.
Okay, and it's not hard to fallin love with a singer.
It was.
I think it was like a chocolatebrown color.
The interior was, you know,just completely done High-end,
tweed kind of, or houndstooth,whatever sort of interior it
just it was just absolutelygorgeous in the paint, the.
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The paint itself was enough tosell that car for a million
dollars and everything else isjust icing on the cake.
It was just incredible.
And then I saw a number of 993snext to each other and, like I
took a long, hard look at the993 headlights and the sort of
the way the, the body, contouraround the lights and the hood,
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you know, kind of come together.
I just like I had a 993 on myright and a nine six four on my
left and I'm just goingbackwards and forwards,
backwards and forwards,backwards and forwards and I
kept on wanting to just look atthe at the nine six four.
And then I saw a bunch of 997sand I still absolutely adore the
first generation 997.
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I think that is also one of thebest Porsches ever released.
Maybe I was just, you know,high on the Florida air.
I'm now starting to seesimilarities between the nine
six four and the 997 dot one.
I'm probably crazy, but I Saw abunch, I just saw a real bunch
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of nine six fours and dad, andjust thought, you know, dude, if
I could fit in one, if I couldafford one, that would just be
such a nice car to own.
But yeah, there were.
I mean you being a nine sixfour owner.
There were so many niceversions that there were old
ones with the paint kind ofpeeling off and they still look
great.
There was a singer, there werea couple of special editions.
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They just there must have beena dozen there that were just
absolutely breathtaking and Icould have spent all my time
Just looking at those nine sixfours but it's great.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
It's funny, though I don't you think that that whole
thing of you know what is yourfavorite 9-11 or what is your
favorite generation of 9-11?
I think that, literally, justdepends on what day you ask me
Literally and what car I'mlooking at in that particular
moment.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, I see if I see a.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
G body car on the road.
That's it.
I'm like that's I, that's whatI want.
Now I want I want an SC or a3-2 Carrera.
I love it I.
I never used to like the impactbumpers, but these days I love
them.
If I see a 992 on the road,I'll message my friend Anthony
and Sarah.
It's finally happened.
The 992 has overtaken the 991for me, as as the better-looking
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car.
I want the 992 now and thenI'll see a 991 about.
That's the car I have to havelike literally.
I am like a four-year-old beingconfronted with candy, which
ever, whichever is in front ofme, that is the one I'm.
I'm desperate to have in thatparticular moment.
Although my friend Gerardmessaged me on on Saturday, he
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owns a 991, a first-gen CarreraS, which he took to Tasmania and
had a great time in, but healso owns a 964 and you know he
was messaging me on Saturdayafternoon.
There is a road, a particularroad, that we drive on the rally
to a little town called Mitter,mitter, and and he was just
messaging me after that drive,just saying this car is just the
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most incredible thing.
And, yeah, he was leadingeveryone, there was modern cars
behind him, all sorts of stuff.
But when you set a 964 up, well, they are on a particular type
of road.
They're they're pretty hard tobeat.
They're very hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah yeah, I love them.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I obviously love them , but I'm biased.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, I mean I've got this.
Yeah, I think I think you'reright.
You know you get you.
If you'd have asked me maybeseven and a Half minutes ago, I
would have told you it was the991 Touring that I just saw
drive past my house.
But yeah, there was somethingabout the 964.
The contours I think the colorcombo is actually that I saw
this weekend were probably mostimpressive.
There was.
There was like this sort of IDon't know like a ruby kind of
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red, pink sort of color.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
And you just couldn't take your eyes off it yeah,
something like yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, yeah, there you go and there was, there was
like a turquoisey kind of tealcolor Could be.
There was, there was.
There was one I think wasactually Repainted, because the
the sign on it said Miami blue Idon't know if they had Miami
blue 964s, no, and and it hadthe ducktail on the back and it
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had the fucks wheels and it hadthe, the, the, the really big
kind of handwritten Carreradecals on the side of the, on
the side of the doors.
That that might have been myfavorite car actually from the
whole, from the whole show.
This is so good, so good.
I'm talking to these owners andthey're like oh yeah, what have
you got?
And I showed them you know mycar and like I really like your
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car, I was like just give me thekeys, let's trade.
I'm like I can't fit in yours,but let's just, let's just trade
.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Anyway, you need a 964 target.
You.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Well, you know, so I've said it before, right, you
know.
You said if I could pay Porscheany amount of money, what would
I get them to make me?
Well, no more am I gonna askthem to make me a 993 turbo.
In the dimensions of the 992,it's gonna be a 964 with a
ducktail.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
But that's a roof right like cuz, cuz, the, the,
the SCR, that that's that's.
It looks like a 964, but it'sbig I.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Want one?
So bad Andy, we just get me one.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
I don't think I can be amazing, get me one.
Yeah, I'm not sure I can makethat happen.
To be honest, even if I had thethe funds to make it happen, I
still don't think.
I still couldn't make it happen.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
But yeah, I'm sort of bunch of people I.
There was a Lady that we metthe previous year at the last
works reunion called Cindy.
She's on Instagram.
I think it's P 9, not P 9 11girl.
She has a 991.1 turbo and it'sI can't remember what type of
(55:25):
blue it is, but it's basicallylike a navy blue Absolutely
gorgeous.
She does mods to it all thetime.
She drives it all the time.
She's always on Instagram.
She's super nice.
She brought her husband, who'salso into, into Porsche, so we
bumped into her, bumped into abunch of people that had very
nice things to say about myvideos, which was kind.
(55:47):
Tried my best to irritate Jayall weekend as much as possible,
especially because his son wasthere.
He had one of his two boysBarney came with his last summer
to the tale of the dragon andand Louis came as this time.
Just actually such a crackinglad, really good.
I just, you know, wanted to pathim on the shoulder and say I'm
(56:07):
just so sorry, jay's your dad,you're a cool kid, but you know
good fun and games.
And now and now, you know, I'mjust counting the days down to
Tale of the dragon.
Bring it on, that's like end ofMay.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
It's funny what you say about being present.
You know, I I Did the samething in Tasmania.
I had all my cameras and on dayone I started recording and I
was shooting.
You know, on our drive awayfrom the boat to get breakfast I
was filming and then we arrivedat breakfast and I thought, no,
(56:47):
I'm not gonna, I'm not doingthis, I'm actually.
I just enjoy this trip.
I want to turn the cameras off.
Stop thinking about making surethey're both running, making
sure I'm I've got themicrophones Turned on and I just
turned it all off and it was,it was the best thing.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
I, yeah, yeah yeah, it's good you got to do it every
once in a while, definitely.
So um video of the week.
Dude, I'm excited because I'veat least watched it.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
So you've actually seen this.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, it's like a video on YouTube about Porsches.
It was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
All right, well, look , I'm gonna.
I'm gonna assume you've seen it.
It's a film called Echoes,which follows the story of a guy
named Ed Mills and he's I thinkit's a mid-70s, 9-11, unless
it's been backdated but he talksabout that, that mid-70s era,
as being his absolute, you know,sweet spot in terms of terms of
(57:45):
what he wanted from a car.
It's, it's beautifully shot.
The whole thing's been shot ona red Komodo, which is a
stunning camera, and I don'tknow just, it's just one of
those nice little Porschestories.
It's a quick watch, threeminutes.
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, really nice.
And it was also another videothat kind of made me want to cry
, because the drone photographyin it was beautiful and the, the
sort of the storytelling of the.
You know he started off.
I think it was in his livingroom, kind of looking out at his
car, and he's in his car, yeah,yeah, and then he's out on the
road and then he's kicking it upa gear and I think the music as
(58:21):
well was like quite, quite kindof intense music.
Yeah, for a fact, you know,it's like building up to
something.
Yeah, really well shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
You can tell when someone has put effort into
their craft.
So this is, this is on achannel by the channel's J J,
kieran J, how you doing.
Hopefully you'll hear this, youprobably won't, but you know,
like the rolling shots, thetracking shots of the car, you
know those lovely front threequarter shots just great,
perfectly crafted it's.
(58:52):
It's one of those ones where,yeah, like you say the, the
storytelling is lovely and so isthe cinematography and I love
what he says.
He talks about, you know,waking up at 3am and then
calling his wife and saying, andshe's like where are you?
And he's like I'm in Scotland.
I just love that idea that youcan get up in the morning and
(59:13):
not really have the intention of, you know, making some epic
road trip, but the car just onceyou're in it, it just it'll
just drag you there.
I love that yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Well, you know that that was my experience on the
way back from Florida.
You know, that was supposed tobe a three day, three day road
trip and I was in that car andevery minute I was behind that
wheel, listening to the exhaustor, you know, putting it into
the corners.
I just well, okay, another 50miles, another 50 miles.
You know what?
Let's just go until six o'clock, let's just go until nine
o'clock, and before you know it,I've been behind the wheel for
(59:48):
21 hours.
Yeah, I can totally see that.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He I love as well.
The owner, ed talks about, youknow, modifying cars and the
idea that you know your walletdictates how fast you can go
with that process.
Totally.
And he you know he made thedecision, there was no need to
rush, and I loved hearing that,because so often when I see
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videos on YouTube or builds onInstagram, you know it looks as
though somebody bought the carand then they've done, in the
space of three months, fourmonths, five months, everything.
It's been repainted, theengine's been rebuilt, punched
out to 3.8 liters, a whole newinterior, and it creates this
sense of oh man, my car's notgood enough, I need to.
(01:00:36):
I need to get this done, I haveto have it done now.
And it which is ridiculous,because anyone else would look
at your car and think that car'samazing, what are you even
talking about?
But it creates this, thisartificial and inflated need to
to upgrade and modify.
And so you know, I've beentalking about doing the interior
(01:00:57):
of my car forever and it waslike, yeah, you know what?
Just you can do it when you cando it, you can afford it when
you can afford it.
And yeah, my plan with thatactually is to just kind of do
it bit by bit, like buy theleather just when I can buy the
carpet, when I can justgradually do it, so that it
(01:01:17):
doesn't feel like such a massivething that I have to just bite
off a huge mouthful and chewforever.
I can just work my way throughit.
But I love that.
Someone said in a video hey,you know what?
Just you just do it as you doit.
And yeah, you don't need tofeel that impatient and no one
else is thinking about your carthe way you think about your car
(01:01:38):
.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Exactly yeah.
You're the only one puttingpressure on you to do anything
to your car.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Literally be grateful .
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, dude, I think that's it.
We're back.
Another episode in the can.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, so what do this again in?
We reckon four, five months.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Let's say six, just to be safe.
And if we're, if we're, if wedo a Mr Scott and deliver a you
know ahead of time, then it'sjust going to be good for
everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Well, it's funny because we did just over and no,
we did talk about actuallyrecording two episodes in one
hit, just in case.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
But yeah, that's right, remember.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
But yeah, I've only done show notes for one, and
also my back is is not lovingsitting down, so it's saying,
hey, let's wrap this up so wecan get up right again, you poor
old fucker.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
All right, dude, you have a great time down under and
the curb and Canyon listeners.
Thank you for hanging in therewith us.
I promise there'll be morecontent coming soon.
I'm not sure Andy's promisingas well, but at least one of us
is, and I'll see you in the nextpart.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Yeah, I don't promise I'll do my best.
That's it.
I'll pinky swear, I'll pinkyswear, but hey, make sure you
check us out on Instagram.
To a curb and Canyon.
Check out James auto amateur.
Check out Andy Last rasp Anyoneelse.
They need to check out James,your mother.
We'll see you guys on the nextone.
Hello, this is Andy speaking Andy.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Andy, who was I calling Andy?
Andy who?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Is this a prank?
Call Andy Gawnt James McGraw.
My ears do not deceive me.
I am talking to you and you aretalking to me.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Dude, seriously, how long has it been?
It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Not long enough.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I have been getting requests like not non-stop, but
certainly every day, from atleast one person saying hey,
when are you and Andy going torecord again?
When is next?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
I have even been telling thesame people the same lie, like
week of week of week, we aregoing to record this Friday,
there will be another episodeany second, and then we
(00:52):
ultimately don't record onFriday.
And then I have found myselflying.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I have been telling them I died.
Have you not heard, andy?
Andy is no longer with us.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, at one point I was considering some
kind of prank like that, just soI could record something and
get it out there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Special Memorial Edition podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Exactly, exactly, we are back.
We are back.
Well, so it is 2024.
We are back.
It is Kerbin Canyon.
Porsche Infusia asks talkingshit on a podcast and hopefully
someone is going to listen.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's it, guys, and hopefully this is hopefully you
are back with us, but it mightbe that it is your first time as
well.
This is a Porsche podcast byPorsche Enthusiasts.
We are just a couple ofknuckleheads who love these cars
.
We are not automotivejournalists.
Most of the time, we don't evenknow what we are talking about,
to be fair.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We are talking about the way to tears up Awesome Half
the people that wereconsidering hanging up.
Already it's stopped and theyhave gone back to their Taylor
Swift album.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Hey, nothing wrong with that.
Welcome to Kerbin Canyon.
All right, so it's been aminute.
(02:24):
Huh, it's been a minute, yeahit has.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It went from being a couple of weeks to a month, to a
couple of months, and now it'snearly springtime.
Here in beautiful Minnesota itmust be gearing up for winter
down under right.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, yes.
So tell me what is thetemperature in Minnesota today?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
All right.
Well, technically it's freezing, but it's nowhere near as cold
as it has been the last 10 yearsI've lived here.
We usually under two or threefeet of snow at this point and
colder than the Arctic Circle,but actually we've had snow once
or twice this season and it'smelted pretty quickly.
So you know, it's just brightblue skies, it's dead grass and
(03:06):
it's not so cold that it'll killyou and even some of my die
hard.
You know winter fobes, like mymate Chris, who put their cars
away all winter and torturedthemselves.
Even he actually got it outbefore the end of February,
which is a miracle.
Yeah, Mr GT3 touring.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So yeah it's good, it's good, good, good.
So we're back here.
Today is going to be 39 degreesCelsius, which is 102
Fahrenheit, just shoot me.
So it is hot as balls.
We should probably talk aboutjust, I guess, by way of
explanation of why it's beensuch a break for the two of us.
(03:48):
You know it's tricky.
James is in Minnesota, I am inMelbourne, in Australia, and you
know the time difference istough and sometimes life just
gets in the way.
You know, we've got families,we've got jobs.
This is something we lookforward to, but I was going to
tally up the amount of timeswe'd each canceled on each other
(04:09):
because we have got to recordthis podcast so many times and
there was a period where I waspretty certain that you had
canceled on me more than I'dcanceled on you.
But I think, towards the end, Ithink I came home strong.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know it's funny.
I've been sort of keeping amental tally along those lines
and I think we're pretty close,come on.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You canceled on me plenty.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There have been a couple of times where I've
thought, ok, andy's canceledlike three weeks in a row, now
We've got to start recording,just so I can take the piss out
of you for it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That's true, because when you get a run on of
cancellations, it's like if youwould cancel on me a couple of
times in a row.
I started to feel a little bitlike I'm the only one committed.
This motherfucker keeps lettingme down.
It's all him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So I've got to admit this All right.
So, for those who don't know,our recording window is like
Friday afternoon Minnesota timeand Saturday morning kangaroo
time, and I'm now at thesituation where you know I'm
working from home All three kidsare out of the house on a
(05:19):
Friday at school and my meetingsare pretty light on a Friday.
So there have actually beenquite a few times when I've
decided to like take anafternoon nap and I've set my
alarm like 20 minutes beforewould you just start recording.
And there have been quite a fewafternoons where I've woken up,
looked at my phone and you'relike, oh mate, I can't make it.
(05:40):
You know whatever reason.
And I reply back going.
Oh you dickhead, I can't believeit.
And then just like turn myphone off and go straight back
to sleep.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
There was one a few weeks ago where I think we both
just flat out forgot I had nomessage from you, you had no
message from me.
And then, and then you, still,you still took the moral high
ground and messaged me later andsaid I can't believe you forgot
about us.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh, absolutely.
Do you have any idea how much Iwas laughing as I was writing
that text message to you and notonly that, taking screenshots
of our conversations and postingthem on social media.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't, you know, I actually don't remember the
substance of that particularexchange, but I was so appalled.
I have so, so appalled by whatyou were telling me, and and and
appreciated my, my response somuch that I just had to share it
with the world.
Oh, brilliant.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, you know it is, it's, it's.
I mean I've got to say it'sgreat to be chatting to you.
I feel like we haven't, becausewe don't really speak when
we're not podcasting.
We message each other off andon but we don't actually have a
chance to talk.
So this is great and you knowwe've got.
We've got some stuff to getthrough.
And again, if this is yourfirst time listening to the
Kerban Canyon podcast, we'll doa little bit of news.
We tend to talk about our carsa lot.
(07:06):
They they bring us fun andheartache.
And then and then stuff we'vebeen doing drives, we've been on
events, We've been to anythingthat kind of tickles our fancy.
And then we'll finish with ourvideo of the week, which this
week I think is a cracker.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm excited and I've actually watched the video of
the week.
In fact, not only have Iwatched the video of the week, I
knew which one it was when yousent it to me, because I saw it
when it landed about a week ago.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Really.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah.
And then, after so long, I youknow, start to take care of
business.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, who did the show notes for today?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You as always.
And guess what?
I read them, did not read them.
You wait, did you send themover?
I got the show notes Look look,I, I appreciate the
professionalism, I appreciatethe organization, but at the
same time it's borderline, youknow, kind of controlled fun,
(08:08):
and that's where show notes justsort of you know itch me a
little bit.
But yeah, let's, let's followthe show notes, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Topic number one I'm so glad we're going to get into
this.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know like let's let's talk about how we run our
podcast on the podcast.
That's the sort of insidebaseball.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
People tune in for.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Okay, so I'm going to .
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I'm going to straight away deviate from the show
notes because we do have topicnumber one, but there was a
thing that came out maybe threeweeks ago that Delta is a.
Delta Airways are using a GT3RSto get people who are
desperately late for their planeonto the plane driving across
the tarmac.
Now, have you seen?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
this Dude.
I have seen that and actuallythat's not the first time I've
seen Delta collaborating withPortia, because there are quite
a few airports in the US whereyou're looking out of the window
waiting for the skybridge orwhatever it is.
You know it's going to get youoff the plane and there is a
Delta branded take-am or a Deltabranded Cayenne turbo, just you
(09:12):
know, down below waiting for,like I wonder, you know what's
going on.
So now we know a little bitmore, I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But so is every one of those examples you just used
made makes sense to me.
Now I get that In having avehicle of the nine eleven
variant sitting on the tarmacthat gives maximum opportunity
for exposure and kind of thatwow factor right like this is
how seriously we take gettingyou onto your plane on time.
(09:43):
But the fact that it's a GT3 RS, at least just go a GT3.
So you've got the Frank likethis.
Literally no way to putanything in a GT3 RS.
So unless you are travelingwith your passport and your
wallet and nothing else, noteven a laptop bag, you can't
screwed.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, also there are speed limits in
airports, so right, you know,you're right there.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
so and everything slow.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, exactly, and I don't know about the rest of the
world, but in the US, everyairport has its own police force
, basically, and they actuallyhave cops sat around the airport
with speed cameras catchingbaggage towers who are driving
too fast.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, so good luck getting to your plane at 15
miles an hour and you GT3 RSImagine eventually they'll be
selling that car and it'll bethe car that has all of the all
of the mechanical issues,because it's never been driven
over 20 miles.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Exactly.
Yeah, I think that's a bitridiculous yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It is.
Although, that said, if I wastraveling Delta and I managed to
score myself a ride at 20 milesan hour across the tarmac in a
GT3 RS, I'm sure I'd be justvideoing that whole thing and
saying check me out my phone'son social media.
That still be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah.
Just so many things wrong withthat picture.
Like, have you also ever triedto go out onto the tarmac?
Once you've on an airplane, yougotta get off the plane, you
gotta walk up the jet bridge,you gotta go through a secure
door, you gotta walk back downthrough a bunch of stairs along
a corridor and then out onto thetarmac.
By that time you could havegotten to the gate you were
(11:26):
trying to fucking drive to inthe first place.
It's ridiculous.
Can you tell how much I'magainst this idea?
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Am I the only one thinking of Jim Carrey?
And dumb and dumb, it's okaydriver?
No, I agree.
When you, when you, when youtraveling by plane, there is
nothing worse than when theypull up and you have to go down
the stairs onto the tarmac, andeven worse if you have to get
(11:54):
into one of those damn shuttlebuses.
It's like can I just where'sthe average?
Just take me into the airport.
I do not want to be outsideright now.
So yeah, I agree, I'm againstit.
I think it's kind of goofy.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I get it, it's a publicity stunt, but you know, I
think I'm we're gonna soundlike two, two old men are just
whining, but I'm gonna rearrangesome of the words in that last
sentence of yours, which isquite literally this there is
nothing worse than traveling byplane.
I fucking hate air travel.
I hate it.
(12:27):
I've been doing business travelfor so many years.
This last month I've gone toPhoenix three times from
Minneapolis and I just I'm donethat.
You know, tsa check in it'sstill bad.
Pre check alright, it's good,you don't have to take shoes off
, your belt off and all thatbollocks.
But I just I'm not gonna gothrough all the reasons why I
(12:48):
hate it, because there are lotsof them, but like, I'm done if I
can just like stay in myhometown or drive to wherever I
need to go.
Game on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Flying to the grumpy old travelers podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
know I once I once got I used to fly to Toronto a
lot and Toronto customs they'repretty tough, they're oh yeah,
I've been there many times yeah,dude, and if you I mean if you
fly in a vancouver, they're likeyo come in, you fly into
Toronto and they're tough.
But I had, I had a bit of aroutine down.
(13:23):
I would always get in linewhere the customs official was
younger and female and then Iplay the role of the kind of
tired Australian traveler, right.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'd be like Can I?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
hey go, and I'd really ham up the whole
Australian thing this one time Iget there and I was so tired
and there was one line that hadnobody waiting but the guy, the
customs official.
He looked like a US Marine andI thought no, he'll be fine, and
I tried my whole you know goofytired Aussie stick with him and
(13:59):
it was not washing at all.
He looked at me single raisedeyebrow like hey, sunshine, I
didn't just come, I didn't comedown in the last hour of seeing
your type before, so I put thelittle mark on my customs entry
form.
That said, I had to go into thenext room, right, and I'm
thinking, oh great, so I'mexpecting to go in there and
(14:21):
hear the thwack of the rubberglove and all that sort of
business.
Why go in there?
Do you know who's standingthere?
Richie Sambora from Bon Jovi?
Yeah, so I don't know.
Talking to you, sam, or isamazing?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
This is so cool three fingers in a rubber glove shift
up your ass and I must have awonderful conversation.
I did, I did.
I said how did you write livingon it?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Whoa anyway, good look, good times, good times.
So we do have an actual newsarticle on my very well prepared
show notes, which is motor.
One is reporting via Bloombergthat you remember the.
You remember the Felicity Ace,the whole, the ship that sank,
with all of the.
I had a hundred and eightporches on it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, and that was not during the pandemic,
when there was already ashortage of cars, and all of
these beautiful cars that peoplehave been waiting for were just
got scuppered to the bottom ofthe ocean.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The start of twenty twenty two maybe, and it was.
I mean it was.
It was a lot of cars, it was alot of porches and in fact, but
it was like a stack of outies.
There's the four hundred outies, there's bentley's,
lamborghinis, all sorts of stuff, vauxwagens.
Well, so it's emerged that theybelieve the fire that brought
(15:40):
the ship down was started by abattery in a Porsche.
Yeah, so yeah, what a bummer.
It's gonna happen, it's gonnahappen is this but is this the
future that the head of us now,when we're gonna have fully
electrified camons and boxersthat is gonna be burning down
people's houses?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh yeah, I'm sure they will absolutely, and I bet
you they have done already aboutyou.
I've seen at least half a dozenarticles about Tesla's catching
fire in the last you know sortof four or five years.
That Leave me to believe thatit happens all the time yeah,
I'm not fear mongering about avisa.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, no, no and actually, yeah, absolute bummer.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's a pity for the Porsche brand that it happened,
but it's not gonna be the last,and there are gonna be hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds ofthem of those scenarios which
don't make it into the press,but I think it's just part of
life, you know?
I mean, how many, how many carshave blown up or had wheels
falling off or yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, gas tank of gas
(16:46):
fumes getting in the cabin andit.
You know, shit happens.
But unfortunately they're inthe news and There'll be the
spotlight on for a little while.
But hey, if it sparks someinnovation and you know Porsche,
come out with a better batterythat cools and last longer than
you know, it's not the end ofthe world.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Did you deliberately use the word sparks?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Is that no?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So apparently they've known about it for ages.
So, because what's happening isthat the shipping company and
their insurance company a suingPorsche, and this is Since the
start of last year, apparently,but we're only just hearing
about it now.
So, anyway, interesting,whatever, all I know is there's
a hundred and eighty something.
(17:36):
Porsches at the bottom of thesea?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, that's there.
I'm sure there's a joke inthere somewhere.
I mean, you know the lawyerjoke.
There must be.
I don't know what's.
What's?
One person, porsche taken and400 out.
He's in the bottom of the ocean.
Good start, thank you foreventually laughing at that joke
.
Thank you for eventuallylaughing at that joke.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Hey, now I see you've got down.
You've been pumping out Taco,different tack faces.
There's some really cool onescan say tacos.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, I was in Phoenix the other week and I had
a lot of Mexican food.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It was great tacos burritos, breakfast burritos so
tell me, tell me, tell me aboutthese tech faces, because I do.
They look really good, likegreat quality oh yeah, I'm
really excited about it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So I you know of all the things I've dabbled in in my
auto ammage journey so farthere have been two or three
months that have been reallysuccessful.
At the joy auto car play, onewas Like a booming success.
I've sold a bunch of thoseunits and I've done now it's
(18:50):
gotta be over 50 jobs myselfpersonally around the country
into other people's cars.
So that was, that was a big one.
And then my my deviated.
My colored Tag faces weremassive.
They were really popular, butunfortunately my supplier was
doing business with a thirdparty.
That third party went under.
(19:12):
Long story short, the qualityjust dips unfortunately took a
massive dive towards the end.
So I just kind of pulled themfrom my website and I thought
you know, if it's not somethingI'm willing to put into my own
car, I'm not having someone elseput it into their car, you know
.
So I saw, so I pulled them andit's been about a year now maybe
since some I've designed anyinsult any, but I just happen to
(19:34):
come across a new supplier.
That's a bunch of R&D into thematerials, the designs.
They've got this really slickprinting process which I don't
want to bore you but basicallyprints and reprints all of the
stuff like multiple times onmultiple layers, and it's just
that they are excellent quality,just really super quality.
(19:57):
So, yeah, I'm really excited.
I've got a bunch of Customstyles that are available on my
website and I'm no longer justdoing them for 99 ones and the
more modern kind of cars thatshare the same instrument,
cluster size, but Firstgeneration and second generation
chi ends, the 996, the 997.
(20:20):
I got for the nine actuallyhappened for the 964, if you're
interested in the other, the 993.
But yeah, super cool and I'mactually gonna be installing
seven in my own car this weekend.
I've got these black ones withgreen letters, you know green
numbers and these retro kind ofrings around the outside.
(20:40):
They look so sharp and prettyexcited.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's really interesting.
Tell me more about the printing, wow just kidding.
No, they look.
I have to say.
I looked on your socials andyou could just tell you the
quality is great.
I don't want to turn this intoan auto amateur store ad, but
but yeah, I was.
I was super impressed If I wasinto the world.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Thank you very much.
Why aren't you into that kindof stuff?
I'll get you a green one forlittle green.
I'll put your face on it in themiddle.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'd rather have your face, and like your eyebrows, go
up every time the car revs.
That'd be good.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
No, I'm only in plus.
I'm in plus, mm-hmm.
So, speaking of mods andupdates, how is Bluey 2e?
I see some stripes Now againfor people who perhaps haven't
tuned into our podcast beforewhat is Bluey?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
2e.
Bluey 2e is a Porsche A 911,991.2, carrera Coupe
Blah-dee-blah-dee-blah.
It's lovely.
I'm so happy with it.
Very nice, it's really cool.
Yeah, I'm really glad I got it.
Yeah, I got rid of originalBluey, my 996 Project car, last
summer, and within a few weeks Ipicked this one up and I it's.
(22:08):
In many ways it feels verysimilar to my 991.1,
unsurprisingly because it's thesame generation.
But the subtle changes and thedifferences between the two
generations really make this carvery special and very different
to drive the turbochargedengine, the lower torque, just
(22:28):
some of the some of therefinements here and there and
the styling and the body.
Yeah, I'm super excited and thecolor keeps growing on me.
It's graphite blue, metallic,which was one of the special
colors that they offered in thatgeneration.
Some days it kind of looks likea gray, some days it sort of
(22:52):
looks like a steely blue, otherdays it looks completely
different again, depending onthe light.
I got a lot of complimentsactually about the color and I
guess I feel like I reallyhaven't had a chance to work on
it very much so far.
I've owned it for just over sixmonths, seven or eight months
now, but I was looking back overthe list of things that I have
done, and it's quite a lot, andI've still got more to do, more
(23:16):
to go.
So, yeah, it's going to be afun summer and a fun spring if I
can just get myself in thegarage and get myself out on the
road.
My videos have gone from, youknow, sort of one a month to one
every kind of three months, andso I'm really slacking on the
video front, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You've moved into the last rasp?
Yeah, but you see the problem.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Let me tell you what the problem is.
There and actually some of myfriends I was at a Porsche event
the other weekend.
We were talking about you andwe were talking about last rasp
and we're talking about some ofthe really good content creators
out there and I can't rememberwhat they said, but I'll boil it
down for you.
Basically, you go away for acouple of months and then you
(24:04):
turn out this absolutely breathtaking, beautiful, stunning, you
know sort of epic five minutevideo and just wow everybody.
I don't put a video out for acouple of months, but then I
come out with a video and it'sbasically the same old shit, is
the same standard.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Everyone wants that for me.
That's why it works.
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh God, yeah, I don't know.
It's not like I spend themonths in between releasing my
video, you know, really tryingto up my craft and up the game.
I do, I do try a little bit,but God damn it.
Andy Gawnt, yeah, every timeyou put out a video I just sit
back and sigh and put my head inmy hands Funny is?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't.
Most of what I watch on YouTubeisn't like that, like lately
I've been getting into.
Is it Adam LZ?
Yeah, he's a drifter, he's.
He's.
He's got some some.
He's had some Porsche content onhis channel but he's bought
this mint nine six four coupewhich was a tiptronic, and he's
(25:10):
been, he's done some kind ofdeal with eBay motors and he's
converted it to manual and he'sdone a rebuild on the engine and
he's done all of these things.
And I'm loving watching hiscontent because he goes in deep
on what he's doing on the carand what's really interesting is
I think and someone mightcorrect me, but I think he's
(25:34):
somewhat of an air cooledportion novice and so he's
really working this stuff out ashe's going and it's it's great
to watch and, honestly, themodifications he's making to
that car he's not done anythinggoofy Like they've all been
really well curated and thoughtthrough and each time he drops a
video, which is maybe once aweek, it's like 20 minutes of OK
(25:58):
.
Today the engine's going backin the car and we're going to
drive it for the first time likebig steps.
Yeah really really cool.
And it's not.
It's not high production values, it's just really super
interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's good, all right.
I'm feeling a little bit betterabout life, so you know it's
not the end of all.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's all about the personality, dude.
It's all about the personality.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hey, now speaking of drifters, I was in Florida last
weekend at Works Reunion.
I actually shipped my car downthere so that I could put it in
the the corral and drive around.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You just had to shit your car.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Shit, oh right, sorry P for penis.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Just speak a little more clearly.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So it's, it's.
It's the Friday morning morning, in the event.
I'm there with Jay Reed andMichael Wooten, michael Motsom
meets and the three of us aregoing in convoy to to the show.
They're in front of me, theyget out into the road first, and
then there must have been ohGod, I don't know like 20
Porsches in a row driving reallyclose together.
So I'm waiting my turn to getout after these 20 beautiful
(27:11):
Porsches leave this souped up.
I think it was a, it was eithera Honda Accord or it was a
Subaru and Prats up, but itlooked like it had a spray paint
kind of paint job.
They had a big wing on the back, it was lowered, you know, the
windows were down, the music wasblaring and you could just see
(27:33):
this thing come in a mile.
So I'm waiting at thisroundabouts and the guy puts
himself into a drift to go roundthe roundabouts and misses the
front of my car by like Musthave been millimeters.
It was like I was basicallythinking to myself oh, that's it
, that's my front bumper gone.
I hope it's just my frontbumper that goes.
(27:57):
He was so close so he driftedpast the front of my car and and
you could just hear themlaughing out of the window as
they were doing it, which really, really pissed me off, missed
my car, managed to get it backunder control but then as they
went and took the exit off theroad, they slammed into the
(28:17):
central reservation drifting theother way and I think like his
rear wheel came off and therewas this massive there was this
massive like YouTube fail armykind of level bang and he and he
sort of just drifted off intothe side of the road.
I was, I was so ready to likeget out of the car and just go
(28:37):
and beat the piss out of thembecause I was so close to my car
and I drove by and had mywindow down and the dude was
like in the front seat, steamyou know, like coming out of the
engine and you could tell likehe wasn't injured.
But he was a little bit dazedand confused and I put my window
down and part of me wanted tolike ask him if he was OK and I
was thinking about stopping andpulling over and seeing if he
(28:59):
was OK, but I just instinctivelyscreamed at him you know, dumb
fuck.
I just screamed at him, you,dumb fuck.
And drove by and, quiteliterally, about three seconds
later, the car behind me and thecar behind that person, also
driving Porsches.
It was like we were singing anecho of dumb fuck, dumb fuck,
(29:21):
you, dumb fuck.
Everyone was just laying intothis poor kid.
But, jesus, I swear to God, Iprobably would have broken a
bone if he'd have actually hitmy car.
I'm not a violent person, butJesus.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Wow, yeah, there's a lot to unpack there, Because I
mean secretly, yeah, like whenwe see someone do something that
dumb, there's absolutely thatmoment of well, hey, there's
justice.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You just you just yeah instant karma.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, love that, but then the chorus of dumb fuck or
everyone harmonizing.
I'm sort of hearing a Bee Geeskind of vibe yeah, no compassion
.
You should have helped.
You should have helped.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
No, no, no, no what I should have done.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Someone.
Probably there wasn't a YouTubefail video going on of the dude
crashing.
There'll be a video on YouTubeof Porsche owners pricks all
yelling poor guy who's crashed?
His car.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, maybe, maybe I haven't yet seen it arrive on
YouTube, but you know, I thinkyou know I, you know, like to
kindly ask him to step out ofhis car and lay down in traffic,
and let me just reverse overhim a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, that sounds fair.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Like, if you're going to do something stupid in your
car, do it on your own, whenthere's no risk of doing
anything.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh yeah, yeah.
So if you don't have, if youdon't I mean, it's been a good
few months that you've had thecar.
Now have you done any gooddrives?
Have we like tell the dragonanything?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well, I'm about five or six weeks away from going to
tell the dragon with with allthe guys, but but actually yeah.
So I went down to Florida forthis show, was there for a
couple of days.
It was always planning ondriving it back, but I was.
I was going to take my time andspend a few days kind of
driving it back.
(31:29):
I ended up doing 1400 miles in21 hours.
I saw and drove all the way backto Minnesota in a single day, I
think it was.
I think it was nine in themorning when I left, when I left
Amelia Island and I got homejust before six am.
But anyway, on on the trip.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm pretty much must have smelled.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Smell like Diet Coke and coffee 24 cups of coffee.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It probably didn't smell as bad as kiss, kiss,
hello, she's like.
Oh why?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It probably didn't smell as bad as my trousers, you
know, lock a lot of time forfarting in 21 hours in a car,
Anyway.
So so I intentionally set myGPS to keep me off the
interstates.
So, yeah, man, the, the, theroads out of Florida were, you
(32:31):
know what were, they weren't toospecial, but once I got into
Georgia and into Kentucky, Ithink it was, and into Missouri,
loads of really cool twistyturnies pretty much for hundreds
of miles.
Actually, you know, not nowherenear as challenging as the tale
of the dragon, but really,really entertaining.
(32:51):
I mean, I think for these longroad trips I'm going to try and
stay off the interstates as muchas I can, because the, the
county roads here in a lot ofthose kind of central states
that you know have mountainsrunning through them, or you
know a lot of the Mississippirunning through them, which cuts
you know really nice contours.
That was really enjoyable,Awesome, and actually I came to
(33:13):
a couple of you know really kindof spectacular scenes, like on
the tops of bluffs and acrossbridges, that I probably never
will have ever seen or thoughtto look at in these tiny little,
almost ghost towns in all ofthese different counties and
states, pulled over for roadsidebarbecue once or twice, which
(33:35):
was really good.
You know, just some random dudewith a barrel on the side of
the road slow roasting ribs, andthen you know he's just had
some British guy in a Porschepull off and be like Hello, can
I have some barbecue please?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
He'd be looking around just thinking where the
hell am I?
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
And Gatorville, louisiana orwherever.
It was Six foot six, you knowginger head English guy asking
for ribs, but really good, yeah.
So you know, I did that and Idid a similar kind of strategy
on the way back from the, the,the Rocky Mountains when I tried
(34:23):
to make it out to rent sportreunion.
Basically took the, the, the,the, the twisty Tony roads all
the way back through Coloradoand Wyoming and the Dakotas
until you got to Minnesota andthen it's all straight roads and
just boring as shit.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
But what is the difference between twisty and
turning?
Is it like country and Western?
So so so it's like chit, chat.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know, you know that's yeah, like what is chit
and what is chat.
Yeah that's a great question so.
So to me, a twisty road iswhere you know it's.
It's almost like chicanes andyou just you glide and you twist
a little bit from left to rightand you can you know you can
pick a path and you can just gofor it.
A turning road is like aswitchback, where you actually
(35:13):
have to crank the wheel and getinto second and interesting.
Come on, Andy, you know this.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Everyone just calls them twisties.
You're the only person I knowthat calls them twisty turnies.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, well, I'm super .
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You always start saying oops, a daisy.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hey, maybe I will.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You probably already do.
Actually, that reminds me, Ialways said it when you pulled
up with with old mate on theside of the road.
You're getting out of your carand you're stepping a puddle.
Oops, you daisy.
May I have some?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
room.
Oops, you daisy.
So my I'm.
I'm famous for my potty mouth,I guess with my friends, and you
know, maybe I'm not proud of it, but I certainly drop the old
swear word every now and again.
However, around my kids I amgood as gold.
There is never a bad word thatslips out of my mouth when I'm
around my kids.
(36:07):
The other day, the other day, mylittle five year old Adam.
I asked him if he could comeinto the living room so that I
could talk to him and as he gotup off the couch and put his
iPad down, he actually just sortof muttered under his breath oh
for fuck's sake, and I swear toGod, you didn't get that from
(36:29):
me.
You did not get that from me.
And I've noticed I've noticednow because that that one thing
happened and I was like Adam,what did you just say?
And he's like just said whatmommy says.
Both Luke and Adam have startedto say like a couple of things
that my wife will say, and Iknow I don't want to throw my
(36:51):
wife under the bus, but I knowthat I know that these things
have come from her, because onlyshe says these things in the
very particular way that shesays them.
There you go.
Brilliant, how about you?
So what's?
I've got a couple of things youknow, like how's Choco, my
favorite chocolate colored dog?
(37:12):
It looks like you've beentidying your garage, or at least
putting posters on the wall.
I mean, who are you?
Where's the mess gone?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
All right.
So so, first of all, your firstquestion is really confusing.
So, Sully, my black Labrador isabsolutely fine, rocco my good
mate who I drive with.
Happy birthday, rocco.
By the time this comes outit'll be, I think, the day after
your birthday.
But happy birthday, good sir.
Rocco is fine.
(37:42):
In fact, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,I'm gonna make a big shout out
to Rocco.
So last weekend was AlpineRange Rally nine, the ninth
running of the Alpine Range.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Rally nine Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And yeah, yeah, and I was so excited for this one and
we had Rocco and I had done arecce drive mid last year to
have a look at a road that wewanted to include in day one we
decided to add it into day one,making day one the biggest
single rally day we'd ever done.
But you know, this road waswell worth it.
I was so excited.
(38:15):
So we leave on Friday morning.
Now you mentioned my garagebeing a little bit tidier on
Sunday, the Sunday before.
So five days out I was tidyingmy garage and I was.
I happened to be kneeling downand there were two slabs or
cases of beer and.
(38:36):
I slid them together from sortof left to right whilst kneeling
down, which my physiotherapistwould tell me is a really bad
thing for somebody withvacations to do.
So the next morning I felt alittle sore in my back and I
thought, okay, that's from whatI did yesterday in the garage.
(38:57):
That was dumb.
Well, tuesday morning, as I put, my shoe on my back just went,
and so I couldn't stand, Icouldn't walk, I was, I was in
big trouble.
And now.
So this is, this is Tuesday,and I've now have what?
Is it?
72 hours to heal my back beforeday one of the rally being
(39:22):
Friday morning.
So late Thursday I messagedRocco and I said dude, there's
no way.
I've been trying.
I spent three days on my back,but I just couldn't, couldn't
make it.
So the rally actually happenedwithout me, which was oh, good
thing, Good thing.
Now I'll say one thing, I thinkbecause Rocco and I have
(39:45):
organized it so many times nowit was something where I was
able to not go and it still wentsmoothly.
The maps were all great, thatyou know.
There weren't any issues withthat.
So I think we've got it apretty well-oiled machine going.
But yeah, Rocco, just he's like, don't worry about it, I'll
swing by your house, I'll pickup all of the merch, because we
(40:06):
had these cool T-shirts made.
I'll pick up all the merch andyeah, it's cool.
And all he kept saying to me wasjust try and meet us somewhere,
just do that.
We just want you there, andunfortunately I couldn't.
I thought about driving to meetthem on the Saturday morning,
but there was no way.
It's really only now, a weeklater, that I'm able to really
(40:29):
move or drive my car, so therewas no way I was doing six and a
half seven hours a day drivingthrough the twisties with
everybody and, as anyone who's along time listener or anyone
who will have seen any of myvideos on Alpine Rage Rally
knows, we always havecatastrophic weather conditions.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Always, oh yeah, it always rains More sooner.
What do you think the weatherwas like on this one Perfect
Perfection?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Absolute perfection.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
So I guess, you're going to be uninvited to future
rallies now.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Well, yeah, because my plan to phase my relevance
out is complete.
I'm not needed, but it's youknow what I mean.
Well, because I was in the leadup to this rally.
I was so excited because and Iwas saying to people, this is
great it's the first rally in along time where I don't feel
(41:31):
like I'm rushing to get my carready.
I don't have to rush because.
So last year, my last rallyprior to this was Tasmania, and
for that rally I took littlegrain, my 1990, 964, c4 Coop,
and right before it it turnedout I needed to replace the
(41:53):
clutch, and which is not a smalljob.
And then and to be honest, I'dtaken my car into my local
Porsche specialist, had themlooked at it.
All I wanted them to do was waschange the clutch pin, because
sometimes the clutch pin failsin my car and I didn't want it
to fail while I was away.
Well, that clutch pin turnedinto the clutch, then valve
(42:16):
covers, then timing chainhousing.
It turned into an engine out.
Massive job.
And I picked the car up twodays before the rally with a
brand new clutch and the enginejust put back in it.
So I was, I must confess, tobeing somewhat concerned as I
loaded my car onto a boat totravel to an island state and
(42:41):
have three days of hard rallying, with the engine only having
just been put in the car twodays prior.
And other than a other than asmall, there's a.
There's a cable that connectsthe reverse light, something
which came undone on on day oneof the rally and was dragging
along the ground.
(43:01):
So we managed to just tape thatup, and other than that, it was
fine.
So I had three days of rallyingwith, with, with all my mates,
on incredible roads in the ninesix four, which was phenomenal,
and then Kath actually flew downand met me, and then we did
another four days of touring inthe nine six four around
Tasmania.
I did something like three anda half thousand kilometers.
(43:23):
Bloody hell, the car wasincredible.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Absolutely incredible Like did.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
It did not miss a beat.
But yeah, that was a.
That was one hell of a mad rushto get it ready.
And yeah, this, this, thisrally.
I was thinking I don't need todo anything.
I'm so set.
The car was even clean anddetailed two weeks prior.
I thought I don't even have towash it.
I can just relax.
All I need to do, all I need todo is charge up the battery for
(43:49):
my camera, charge up thebattery for my radio, and I'm
set I'll be able to jump in thecar Friday morning and happy
days.
And then age sort of got awayand said hey, listen listen old
timer, not so fast.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Oh mate, that sucks, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know what, though, I'vegot to say?
The lads were sending me photosevery day and the, if I'm
honest, I had a few low pointswhere I was looking at the
photos just thinking you can allfuck off, but but honestly, it
was really great and it lookedlike everyone was just I don't
know, it made me it was.
(44:31):
It made me happy just seeingeveryone was just clearly really
enjoying it.
It looked like it was just areally good time.
There was some mind you, therewas some mechanical issues.
There were two cars that didn'tactually finish the journey,
which is oh really.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So my understanding is that on the new road that
Rocco and I had wrecked back inJuly, everyone drove in.
It's an in and out kind of road, right, you drive in it's like
40 minutes to this tiny littletown with a general store and
nothing else, and then you driveback out on the same road.
And so they had a great drivein and my buddy, simon, who has
(45:11):
a 911 SC that is very hot-roddedit is a very, very cool car he
parked and some, some guy who Idon't know was staying in the
town, just asked him if he couldmove his car.
I think he was parked in frontof a petrol tank or something.
He said yeah, no problem, hegets in the car, goes to start,
it puts his foot on the clutch.
(45:31):
The clutch cable snapped.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's like there's nothing you can't, there's no
coming back from that.
You know you can't cable tie it, you can't do it.
Yeah, so and then.
So, as they waited for the, forthe tow truck to arrive, in the
middle of nowhere, pj, who wassort of coming a few of the guys
(45:57):
had come, had left a little bitlater than the rest of the team
.
Pj rolled in in his 944, whichhad, he'll tell me, I'm wrong, I
think something wrong with aball joint maybe.
So both cars ended up beingtaken out of there on on a
flatbed tow truck.
Now, simon, credit to him.
He rode back with the tow truckand he owns he daily drives a
(46:23):
Gen 1 997.
So on Saturday morning he gotup at 430 in the morning, drove
to Lake Centrance, which isthree hours away, to meet
everybody before then doing thesix or so hours of rallying.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
So he, he, yeah, he rejoined the group.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Now, I did that a few years ago.
I did a very similar thing, buton that particular day we
didn't drive near as far in theactual rally portion.
So yeah, he definitely gets theMVP, I think.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
For he's so.
He's too keen for my liking.
I just that's.
That's keen on a whole newlevel.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
I'm suspicious.
36 hours straight, didn't youLike that's keen.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
No, that's just stupid.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
So there's my question Is there a difference?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh, I'm sure there probably is.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Hey, so tell me about Amelia Island.
You did that was last weekend,right?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
It was, yeah, and actually you know perfect kind
of segue talking about littlegreen, because I spent a lot of
time this weekend in AmeliaIsland, just like really trying
to.
It's gonna sound really maybe alittle bit in either here or
there, but like just just reallytrying to be present and Not
(47:46):
worry about, you know, shootingvideos and not worry about what
we're doing in the evening, justlike I'm there for four or five
hours or however long it is.
I'm just gonna try and enjoythis as much as I can, and
especially, you know, being awayfrom work and family or
whatever.
So I think I've had arealization as I've looked and
spent a lot of time this pastweekend looking at pretty much
(48:07):
every Generation and variants ofPorsche 911 ever released.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I think the 964 might be the perfect 911.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I Think yeah and I first I.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Didn't think I would ever say that I mean, I love the
964, don't get me wrong.
I always thought that I likedthe 993 a bit more than the 964,
and the more you know themodern Porsches, the 991.2 in
particular, I just absolutelylove.
But this weekend I think myheart was.
(48:51):
I think my heart was taken with, at least what, what was?
Four or five, nine, six, fours.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
What was it what?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Well, I think, first off, there was a singer there.
Okay, and it's not hard to fallin love with a singer.
It was.
I think it was like a chocolatebrown color.
The interior was, you know,just completely done High-end,
tweed kind of, or houndstooth,whatever sort of interior it
just it was just absolutelygorgeous in the paint, the.
(49:27):
The paint itself was enough tosell that car for a million
dollars and everything else isjust icing on the cake.
It was just incredible.
And then I saw a number of 993snext to each other and, like I
took a long, hard look at the993 headlights and the sort of
the way the, the body, contouraround the lights and the hood,
(49:48):
you know, kind of come together.
I just like I had a 993 on myright and a nine six four on my
left and I'm just goingbackwards and forwards,
backwards and forwards,backwards and forwards and I
kept on wanting to just look atthe at the nine six four.
And then I saw a bunch of 997sand I still absolutely adore the
first generation 997.
(50:09):
I think that is also one of thebest Porsches ever released.
Maybe I was just, you know,high on the Florida air.
I'm now starting to seesimilarities between the nine
six four and the 997 dot one.
I'm probably crazy, but I Saw abunch, I just saw a real bunch
(50:30):
of nine six fours and dad, andjust thought, you know, dude, if
I could fit in one, if I couldafford one, that would just be
such a nice car to own.
But yeah, there were.
I mean you being a nine sixfour owner.
There were so many niceversions that there were old
ones with the paint kind ofpeeling off and they still look
great.
There was a singer, there werea couple of special editions.
(50:51):
They just there must have beena dozen there that were just
absolutely breathtaking and Icould have spent all my time
Just looking at those nine sixfours but it's great.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
It's funny, though I don't you think that that whole
thing of you know what is yourfavorite 9-11 or what is your
favorite generation of 9-11?
I think that, literally, justdepends on what day you ask me
Literally and what car I'mlooking at in that particular
moment.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, I see if I see a.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
G body car on the road.
That's it.
I'm like that's I, that's whatI want.
Now I want I want an SC or a3-2 Carrera.
I love it I.
I never used to like the impactbumpers, but these days I love
them.
If I see a 992 on the road,I'll message my friend Anthony
and Sarah.
It's finally happened.
The 992 has overtaken the 991for me, as as the better-looking
(51:48):
car.
I want the 992 now and thenI'll see a 991 about.
That's the car I have to havelike literally.
I am like a four-year-old beingconfronted with candy, which
ever, whichever is in front ofme, that is the one I'm.
I'm desperate to have in thatparticular moment.
Although my friend Gerardmessaged me on on Saturday, he
(52:11):
owns a 991, a first-gen CarreraS, which he took to Tasmania and
had a great time in, but healso owns a 964 and you know he
was messaging me on Saturdayafternoon.
There is a road, a particularroad, that we drive on the rally
to a little town called Mitter,mitter, and and he was just
messaging me after that drive,just saying this car is just the
(52:34):
most incredible thing.
And, yeah, he was leadingeveryone, there was modern cars
behind him, all sorts of stuff.
But when you set a 964 up, well, they are on a particular type
of road.
They're they're pretty hard tobeat.
They're very hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah yeah, I love them.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I obviously love them , but I'm biased.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, I mean I've got this.
Yeah, I think I think you'reright.
You know you get you.
If you'd have asked me maybeseven and a Half minutes ago, I
would have told you it was the991 Touring that I just saw
drive past my house.
But yeah, there was somethingabout the 964.
The contours I think the colorcombo is actually that I saw
this weekend were probably mostimpressive.
There was.
There was like this sort of IDon't know like a ruby kind of
(53:19):
red, pink sort of color.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
And you just couldn't take your eyes off it yeah,
something like yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, yeah, there you go and there was, there was
like a turquoisey kind of tealcolor Could be.
There was, there was.
There was one I think wasactually Repainted, because the
the sign on it said Miami blue Idon't know if they had Miami
blue 964s, no, and and it hadthe ducktail on the back and it
(53:48):
had the fucks wheels and it hadthe, the, the, the really big
kind of handwritten Carreradecals on the side of the, on
the side of the doors.
That that might have been myfavorite car actually from the
whole, from the whole show.
This is so good, so good.
I'm talking to these owners andthey're like oh yeah, what have
you got?
And I showed them you know mycar and like I really like your
(54:08):
car, I was like just give me thekeys, let's trade.
I'm like I can't fit in yours,but let's just, let's just trade
.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Anyway, you need a 964 target.
You.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Well, you know, so I've said it before, right, you
know.
You said if I could pay Porscheany amount of money, what would
I get them to make me?
Well, no more am I gonna askthem to make me a 993 turbo.
In the dimensions of the 992,it's gonna be a 964 with a
ducktail.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
But that's a roof right like cuz, cuz, the, the,
the SCR, that that's that's.
It looks like a 964, but it'sbig I.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Want one?
So bad Andy, we just get me one.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
I don't think I can be amazing, get me one.
Yeah, I'm not sure I can makethat happen.
To be honest, even if I had thethe funds to make it happen, I
still don't think.
I still couldn't make it happen.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
But yeah, I'm sort of bunch of people I.
There was a Lady that we metthe previous year at the last
works reunion called Cindy.
She's on Instagram.
I think it's P 9, not P 9 11girl.
She has a 991.1 turbo and it'sI can't remember what type of
(55:25):
blue it is, but it's basicallylike a navy blue Absolutely
gorgeous.
She does mods to it all thetime.
She drives it all the time.
She's always on Instagram.
She's super nice.
She brought her husband, who'salso into, into Porsche, so we
bumped into her, bumped into abunch of people that had very
nice things to say about myvideos, which was kind.
(55:47):
Tried my best to irritate Jayall weekend as much as possible,
especially because his son wasthere.
He had one of his two boysBarney came with his last summer
to the tale of the dragon andand Louis came as this time.
Just actually such a crackinglad, really good.
I just, you know, wanted to pathim on the shoulder and say I'm
(56:07):
just so sorry, jay's your dad,you're a cool kid, but you know
good fun and games.
And now and now, you know, I'mjust counting the days down to
Tale of the dragon.
Bring it on, that's like end ofMay.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
It's funny what you say about being present.
You know, I I Did the samething in Tasmania.
I had all my cameras and on dayone I started recording and I
was shooting.
You know, on our drive awayfrom the boat to get breakfast I
was filming and then we arrivedat breakfast and I thought, no,
(56:47):
I'm not gonna, I'm not doingthis, I'm actually.
I just enjoy this trip.
I want to turn the cameras off.
Stop thinking about making surethey're both running, making
sure I'm I've got themicrophones Turned on and I just
turned it all off and it was,it was the best thing.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
I, yeah, yeah yeah, it's good you got to do it every
once in a while, definitely.
So um video of the week.
Dude, I'm excited because I'veat least watched it.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
So you've actually seen this.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, it's like a video on YouTube about Porsches.
It was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
All right, well, look , I'm gonna.
I'm gonna assume you've seen it.
It's a film called Echoes,which follows the story of a guy
named Ed Mills and he's I thinkit's a mid-70s, 9-11, unless
it's been backdated but he talksabout that, that mid-70s era,
as being his absolute, you know,sweet spot in terms of terms of
(57:45):
what he wanted from a car.
It's, it's beautifully shot.
The whole thing's been shot ona red Komodo, which is a
stunning camera, and I don'tknow just, it's just one of
those nice little Porschestories.
It's a quick watch, threeminutes.
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, really nice.
And it was also another videothat kind of made me want to cry
, because the drone photographyin it was beautiful and the, the
sort of the storytelling of the.
You know he started off.
I think it was in his livingroom, kind of looking out at his
car, and he's in his car, yeah,yeah, and then he's out on the
road and then he's kicking it upa gear and I think the music as
(58:21):
well was like quite, quite kindof intense music.
Yeah, for a fact, you know,it's like building up to
something.
Yeah, really well shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
You can tell when someone has put effort into
their craft.
So this is, this is on achannel by the channel's J J,
kieran J, how you doing.
Hopefully you'll hear this, youprobably won't, but you know,
like the rolling shots, thetracking shots of the car, you
know those lovely front threequarter shots just great,
perfectly crafted it's.
(58:52):
It's one of those ones where,yeah, like you say the, the
storytelling is lovely and so isthe cinematography and I love
what he says.
He talks about, you know,waking up at 3am and then
calling his wife and saying, andshe's like where are you?
And he's like I'm in Scotland.
I just love that idea that youcan get up in the morning and
(59:13):
not really have the intention of, you know, making some epic
road trip, but the car just onceyou're in it, it just it'll
just drag you there.
I love that yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Well, you know that that was my experience on the
way back from Florida.
You know, that was supposed tobe a three day, three day road
trip and I was in that car andevery minute I was behind that
wheel, listening to the exhaustor, you know, putting it into
the corners.
I just well, okay, another 50miles, another 50 miles.
You know what?
Let's just go until six o'clock, let's just go until nine
o'clock, and before you know it,I've been behind the wheel for
(59:48):
21 hours.
Yeah, I can totally see that.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He I love as well.
The owner, ed talks about, youknow, modifying cars and the
idea that you know your walletdictates how fast you can go
with that process.
Totally.
And he you know he made thedecision, there was no need to
rush, and I loved hearing that,because so often when I see
(01:00:12):
videos on YouTube or builds onInstagram, you know it looks as
though somebody bought the carand then they've done, in the
space of three months, fourmonths, five months, everything.
It's been repainted, theengine's been rebuilt, punched
out to 3.8 liters, a whole newinterior, and it creates this
sense of oh man, my car's notgood enough, I need to.
(01:00:36):
I need to get this done, I haveto have it done now.
And it which is ridiculous,because anyone else would look
at your car and think that car'samazing, what are you even
talking about?
But it creates this, thisartificial and inflated need to
to upgrade and modify.
And so you know, I've beentalking about doing the interior
(01:00:57):
of my car forever and it waslike, yeah, you know what?
Just you can do it when you cando it, you can afford it when
you can afford it.
And yeah, my plan with thatactually is to just kind of do
it bit by bit, like buy theleather just when I can buy the
carpet, when I can justgradually do it, so that it
(01:01:17):
doesn't feel like such a massivething that I have to just bite
off a huge mouthful and chewforever.
I can just work my way throughit.
But I love that.
Someone said in a video hey,you know what?
Just you just do it as you doit.
And yeah, you don't need tofeel that impatient and no one
else is thinking about your carthe way you think about your car
(01:01:38):
.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Exactly yeah.
You're the only one puttingpressure on you to do anything
to your car.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Literally be grateful .
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, dude, I think that's it.
We're back.
Another episode in the can.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, so what do this again in?
We reckon four, five months.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Let's say six, just to be safe.
And if we're, if we're, if wedo a Mr Scott and deliver a you
know ahead of time, then it'sjust going to be good for
everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Well, it's funny because we did just over and no,
we did talk about actuallyrecording two episodes in one
hit, just in case.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
But yeah, that's right, remember.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
But yeah, I've only done show notes for one, and
also my back is is not lovingsitting down, so it's saying,
hey, let's wrap this up so wecan get up right again, you poor
old fucker.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
All right, dude, you have a great time down under and
the curb and Canyon listeners.
Thank you for hanging in therewith us.
I promise there'll be morecontent coming soon.
I'm not sure Andy's promisingas well, but at least one of us
is, and I'll see you in the nextpart.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Yeah, I don't promise I'll do my best.
That's it.
I'll pinky swear, I'll pinkyswear, but hey, make sure you
check us out on Instagram.
To a curb and Canyon.
Check out James auto amateur.
Check out Andy Last rasp Anyoneelse.
They need to check out James,your mother.
We'll see you guys on the nextone.
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