Welcome to the 40th episode of Curb and Canyon! Thank you for sticking with us, we promise another ripper in this anniversary - and certainly not last - episode. We're talking about James' recent adventures tuning his base 991.2 and the list of upcoming performance mods his has in store for his Auto Amateur viewers over the next few months. We say goodbye Total 911 magazine, paying tribute to its former editor-at-large Lee Sibley and the excitement we have for his 9 Werks endeavors. Andy's 964, Video of the Week and lots more!! Tune it, kick back, welcome to Curb and Canyon.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Andy Gorns, it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mr James McGrath, good to see you or speak to you,
and hello to everybodylistening.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back, mate welcome back to Curban Canyon,
mate.
Is it true?
It was June the last time weput out a podcast, and it's now
October.
How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, you know, I'll tell you how that happened A lot
of cancellations on your partand this thing you posted on
social media yesterday.
I want to get straight into it,because you and me we need to
clear some air.
We've got to get into this alittle therapy session to start
with, because you postingwaiting for Andy Ga gaunt to uh
(00:46):
cancel yet another podcast thatwas low, very low.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You know what I had to?
Draw first blood and, and Ican't believe you beat me to it
here live on the pod because Iwas about to start throwing you
under the bus left, right andcenter.
But, dude, get this we.
So this is our fourth season.
I guess, technically, the waythat we've divided it, we have
39 episodes behind us, whichmeans this is our 40th episode.
(01:12):
Four, zero, that's.
I mean it's, it's.
It's not an amazing number, butthat's, that's nothing to sniff
at it's.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I would say for us it's quite an achievement and
you know sure the run home to 40has been a little slow.
We've sort of stumbled towardsthat, let's say, somewhat
milestone, but hey, well done tous.
And if you're still listeningand if you're someone who has
listened since the start, well,thank you for listening and
(01:45):
staying patient with us?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, totally.
And dude, we've got so much totalk about.
You know, I've kept a number oftabs open on my Internet
Explorer for like well, I guessthe last three months of all the
things that have come up, thatI thought, oh, that'll be good
for the pod, that'll be good forthe pod, and like, we're not
going to get through all of them, of course.
For the part in, like, we'renot going to get through all of
them, of course.
But, um, you know, we we've gota little bit of this, we've got
(02:07):
a little bit of that, we've gotindustry stuff to talk about,
we've got our cars to talk aboutand mods.
Um, we're going to have alittle chat about Luft, one of
our favorite, um, Porsche showsthat's coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You a little bit for everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So you know who's going to say it first.
Well, first thing, I'm going tosay is Internet Explorer?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, not really.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
What is this 1997?
Welcome to Curb and Can.
All right, no, to be fair, lookInternet Explorer, whatever.
(02:58):
I have Safari, if you must know.
But who's going to All?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
right, mate, it's okay.
What are you surfing on AltaVista?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That takes it back.
So, Andy, you know, not onlyhave we not spoken for a while,
I feel like.
I feel like you've been alittle bit absent from the the
Porsche social media.
World no videos, no world, novideos, no major updates.
What's going on with you?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Look, all of the updates on the car have been,
you know, maintenance related.
So yeah, it's funny, I've gotin the show notes.
Yeah, topic number one our cars.
Bluey-tooey little green, and Ifeel like from a bluey-toey
perspective, I already know someof the stuff that's been going
(03:51):
on and it's some pretty excitingstuff With little green.
You know less.
So there's certainly been somedriving, but as I look at the
last invoice I received from uh,from the wonderful folks at
nine auto here, you know the,the most recent job, which was
not inexpensive, was all justabout making the ac work again.
(04:15):
So you know it.
Like I say, it's a couple ofgrand.
Uh, I knew this one was coming.
They told me about it last year.
They said you're sitting down,we're going to send you this
quote.
I said okay.
And I saw the quote and thoughtdo you know what?
That's something that can waittill next year.
(04:36):
It was already halfway throughsummer or whatever by this point
, so I thought that's fine, I'lljust leave it.
Um, but so not only had my ACuh kick the bucket, but uh,
there is a what's called a mixerflap, uh, which which basically
is the thing that sits, uh,inside the well, let's say and
(04:59):
this, I'm sorry this is theleast technical explanation you
are ever going to hear of ahighly technical thing, but it
basically takes you have a pipethat comes off your heat
exchangers and the like andthere's a flap that directs the
airflow.
So either bring in externalcold air or warm air that comes
(05:21):
off, I think, the heatexchangers and that is what
gives you either heat or cool inyour cabin, whether you're
running AC or not.
And the mixer flaps thatactually control that do start
to fail eventually on some ofthese old air-cooled cars and
it's a bit of a nightmare to getthat fixed.
(05:42):
But that was done.
And the last thing, the lastdrive I had had, I was driving
along and it didn't matter whattemperature I set within the car
, it didn't matter whether I hadAC on or not, it was blowing
full hot.
So it was like imagine yourheater on its highest setting
(06:04):
and, to be honest, in an oldair-cooled car the heat is
actually really good.
So it was.
I was driving along in themiddle of winter with every
window down, the sunroof open,even though it was pouring rain
and just roasting it was, andprobably the most uncomfortable
moment was when I finallyarrived at a traffic light and,
(06:26):
you know, this family in an suvlooked across and at that point
I was driving in my underwear.
But it's all I could do.
It was all I could do to handlethe heat.
So that has subsequently beenfixed, all sorted, and the car
is going in for a service in acouple of weeks, really just to
be ready for a summer of drivingand, to be honest, this winter
(06:49):
it's been a little bit slimpickings in terms of driving.
You know, as you know, wetypically drive all year round
here, but you know, I just thinkeveryone's had other things
going on in their worlds andthere hasn't been as much
driving.
And that then means you don'tdo, there's not as many photos,
there's not as much to share onInstagram.
So, yes, I have been a littlebit quiet.
(07:11):
I've got to say there iscontent coming.
I feel like I say that everypodcast.
But yeah, let's be honest, wehaven't done a podcast for four
months, so who cares?
But there is, there's contentcoming.
So that's where little green'sat, that's where the content's
at.
But you, on the other hand,well, some fun stuff happening
it's true, but I'm just gonnastop you right there.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You've got to stop saying flap, and I'm also not a
massive fan of the word flange,just just so you know.
I I don't.
I don't know why, but it makesme uncomfortable, and you've
said flap at least five times,so I'm now feeling slightly
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That is that's I'm not hearing.
That does not surprise me atall, because I saw your
Instagram post this morning.
You posted a shot of a singer Ithink DLS with something about
pants getting tighter.
It is just for anyone listeningat home.
Recording this pod is a littlebit like hanging out with a
15-year-old that you went toschool with.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
To be fair, though, how nice was that singer?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Of course.
And what about you?
What's going?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
on Dude.
So much it's.
You know I've managed to sortof break the back of all the
different things I've had goingon this year and, um, I've
managed to find quite a bit oftime to get in the garage.
Uh, and I'm super excited.
You know I've spent the pastsort of a couple of weeks
helping my friend chris work onhis gt3 touring.
(08:42):
Uh, he wanted to um install, uhthe uh the sole performance
center muffler delete.
Um, we did that in my garage.
It was the first time we reallygot to give my new garage lift.
I got a two post lift at somepoint earlier on in the year to
replace my scissor lifts whichwere starting starting to get,
(09:02):
you know, a little bit bendy.
They were getting a little bitdangerous and you know, I just I
guess I've been bitten by thebug again.
So working on Chris's car kindof spurred me on and you know, I
think also there was awell-timed comment from you on
social media where you remindedme that when I first got this
(09:25):
991.2 about a year ago, I kindof promised that I was just
going to be focusing onperformance mods and not, you
know, aesthetics and look andfeel and essentially all I've
done for the last 14 months istweak the look and feel with my
stripes and my caliper paintingand my you know my stripes and
my caliper painting and my youknow yellow tack face.
(09:46):
And I was actually about to doyellow seatbelts.
I was thinking about postingthat on social media and then
you dropped that line and I waslike, oh fucking hell, I better
start focusing on somethingother than tweaking.
So you know, let's do some realmods.
And so about this time a monthago, just as I was finishing off
(10:07):
the videos about Chris's Santamuffler, somebody got in touch
with me and offered me adiscount on some H&R Springs,
which of course made me laugh,because you're always going on
about my Safari ride-hike carsand I thought you know what?
For a couple of hundred dollars, even if I don't keep them,
(10:28):
this is worth a go.
So that rolled into somethingelse, which rolled into
something else.
And, you know, a couple ofweeks later I've now got I maybe
won't put a dollar value on it,but let's just say I've blown
my mods budget for the nextcouple of years in one foul
swoop and I've got a dozendifferent things arriving over
(10:50):
the next week.
I'm going to line them all upin the garage and then between
now and hopefully the end of theyear and no later, I'm going to
be doing them all.
But man, it's a big list, it'sa lot so what's?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
what does the list entail?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What's done and what is still to be done.
Well, nothing's actually done.
Yet I bought a carbon fibrediffuser.
Can that count as a performancepart?
Wouldn't have thought so.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, I'm sure the copy on the website uh pictures
it as a performance part.
But no, I wouldn't have thoughtso.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh, well, that's, that's screwed that one up.
Well, so this, this carbonfiber performance part not
performance part that I've hadsat on my workbench for the best
part of the last 10 months,actually tried to install it on
saturday the fucker didn't fitthey.
They uh, oh, no, they I.
I I asked them are you sure itfits a 991.2 with the sports
(11:52):
exhaust?
And they were like yeah, yeah,yeah, it arrived.
I looked at it, wasn't too sureabout it, tried to fit it.
It didn't fit.
So anyway, I did try to getstarted with that.
It it's not done.
So I guess I've done my tune.
That's incredible.
I saw the video, mates.
You know I've always been alittle bit skeptical of engine
tuning, to be honest.
(12:13):
I mean the whole idea that youcan just magically, you know,
wave a wand, flip a switch andall of a sudden your car puts
out loads more power.
Yeah, I just didn't quitebelieve it, which is probably
part of the reason why it sat onmy desk for the best part of a
year.
And now I've done it.
I, I can't believe it didn'tsooner and that didn't do it
(12:34):
sooner.
And now I'm like thinking, well, what else can I do?
I can get an extra 50 horsesfrom this.
I can install some more turbosand get an extra horses over.
Uh, extra hundred horses overhere.
Um, so it's a soft tronic tune.
Um, I had it on the dyno.
It's given me an extra hundreduh brake horsepower.
It's given me an extra 120 footpounds of torque, um, wow.
(12:55):
So if you look at the factoryspecs of the of the lineup um, I
am 1515 brake horsepower awayfrom the gt3, um and I'm about
par in terms of foot poundstorque with the gt3.
So for a 1500 tune, I've takena bass carrera and it's putting
(13:19):
out more power than the s, morepower than the gts and I'm
almost at gt3 levels I was aboutto say, where does it sit
compared with the gts?
so more power than a gts yeah,yeah, yeah, I mean, you know if
these specs are correct and andhopefully the ones I pulled down
online are um, that porschebranded um.
You know the, yeah, the, uh,the, the.
(13:40):
The gt3 is putting out 500,that the gts is putting just
north of um, I want to say 450,I think it is um and and I'm
putting out about 485 um.
That is incredible and so and Iimagine obviously that that
that's visible on the dyno, butI assume it's very much apparent
(14:01):
when you're driving yeah well,I did the butt dyno test first,
obviously, you know, just gotout on the road and thought
let's give it some gas, Evenjust taking it out of my garage.
The throttle response, thepower was just instantaneous.
You know, I almost took it outof the garage a little faster or
a little too fast, because thepower is just like it's right
(14:24):
there.
It's just right there, um anduh.
You can, you can really likefeel it in the back of your head
and in your stomach as you dothe standing start and, uh, you
know, you just tear in a way.
It's, it's, it's reallyincredible, um, so, yeah.
So I'm thinking now what elsedo I do?
(14:45):
You know, I'm looking at FlatSix Motorsports in Florida.
They've got a stage two or astage three tune which they sort
of guarantee will put out about675 or 700 horses.
I mean, it's like $14,000 worthof investment.
So I don't think I'm going to gothat far, if I, you know, look
at just replacing maybe theturbos with the GTS turbos and
(15:06):
some of the other parts thatI've got coming with maybe a
slightly more um, sort of customtune.
Um, maybe I can get into thehigh five hundreds.
Although, to be perfectlyhonest, where I am right now,
it's awesome.
It's it's, it's absolutelyawesome the fact that I've got a
base career that's morepowerful than the s and the gts.
(15:26):
I'm super happy.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's like fantastic yeah, I, I was gonna say that
because what's the what's theend goal?
Because there's only so muchusable horsepower, right, and
yeah, and you know, I suppose itcomes down to when you're doing
any of these sort of modswhat's the use case, what's the
end goal?
How do you see yourself usingit?
Um, because actually a questionI had is uh, is the calibration
(15:54):
or tuning of things liketraction control does?
Does that change?
Uh, as as as you increasehorsepower, either out of the
factory, from porschespecifically, or with these
tunes, because I imagine, yeah,you're putting a hell of a lot
more power to the rear wheels Iassume there's some sort of
calibration that the factorywould do that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's probably not done via these tunes um, not
from from the research that I'vedone.
No, I don't think so, until youactually start playing around
with the intercoolers, um, andyou start getting a bit or a
little bit closer to the engine.
So all of the all of the um,the mods that I'm doing now, you
(16:35):
know, basically just bolt-ons.
So I'm not doing, I'm not doinganything with the engine itself
, I'm not doing anything withthe suspension, um, I'm really
not doing anything with thedrivetrain.
They're just it's bolt-ons tobasically increase airflow.
I mean, that's essentially.
It really, um, yeah, and thetune is just remapping how the
(16:56):
power's getting, um, you know,delivered, um, so there
shouldn't really be anyreprogramming unless I go, I
think the flat six motorsportstage four tune requires a bit
of reprogramming, and that's whyyou're talking 700 horses plus
and you're kind of intoFrankenstein world a little bit
(17:16):
there and I want to avoid that.
But you ask a really goodquestion.
It's like what am I trying toachieve with this?
Well, the first step wasactually just trying to see if I
could get any more power out ofit.
You know, is is, is it possibleto flip a switch magically for
a little bit of money and getsome more power?
And so, yeah, I've done that.
What I'm trying to do now is canI, can I get the sound quality
(17:40):
out of this car and out of thisturbocharged engine and the
enjoyment of that sound that Igot with my naturally aspirated
991.1?
Um, because the, the porschesports exhaust that I've got on
this 991.2 is actually reallyimpressive.
Um, you know, just just on itsown, and even before I put the
tune on, I was getting lots ofpops and crackles and you know
(18:02):
all of the stuff that the, thenaturally aspirated engines give
you.
I was getting that in sportsmode with this turbocharged
engine.
I just want to see if I candial it up to an 11.
So I've got a full soleperformance exhaust coming.
I've got the headers.
Oh wow, I've got the sportscats and I've got the valve
exhaust coming, and so I'm goingto put those on in stages.
(18:22):
I'm going to start with thevalved exhaust and leave the
rest factory and see what that'slike.
I'm then going to put thesports cats on and see what
that's like and then add theheaders.
So I'm going to sort of put theexhaust on in stages and
compare it against the baseline,and each time I do that I'll
make a video and see.
You know kind of how far I wantto go, because, if I remember
(18:47):
correctly, with my 991.1 I endedup having a full-blown
end-to-end sole exhaust systemsystem and by the time I put the
headers on I really didn'tnotice any difference.
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, I imagine, I imagine the valved exhaust.
Uh, that's a thatler component,I assume.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's where most of the volume will come from.
Yeah, because did Tommy L?
He's done the headers and cats.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think on his T he has yeah, actually, you know
what I could kiss that guy.
Not only has he basicallytested all of this for me and
already made the DIY videos forme to follow and basically
recreate, he's such a nice guy.
He's like been answering all myquestions and he's been very
(19:36):
gracious and offering help andadvice.
Yeah, what a nice guy.
I'm going to be plugging himleft, right and center and I
think I've actually just ordereda couple of t-shirts just just
to show him some love.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, do you know what?
We've both spoken with himabout coming on the show and
he's very graciously agreed.
We're just the worst hosts ever.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Let's do that, let's do that, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow .
So that's that's reallyexciting.
I think the exhaust is a greatmod.
I still think, you know to thisday, one of the best things you
can do to make your car feelexciting is get volume from it.
It makes such a huge difference.
And when I think about, you know, my GT4, when I had it, that
(20:23):
was a car that had, I think, theright level of power where you
could genuinely lean on the carand push it and not be doing
silly speeds.
But it had this real splitpersonality.
It was nice and quiet when youwere driving it around, but when
you put it in sport mode you'rein the twisties.
It really the exhaust reallyhowled and it it, that, just it.
(20:48):
It brings that motorsportelement.
That's where, as a you know, itkind of taps back to being a
little kid and the idea of ofwhat makes cars exciting and and
you know, porsche out of thefactory when they are building a
Carrera.
The use case for that car is acompromised use case, right?
Even if you take intoconsideration the sports exhaust
(21:13):
, they can only make it so loud.
They've got their customers tothink of, as well as regulations
and the like that they have tobe meeting.
So there's only so far they cango with it.
Um, it's brands like SoulPerformance that will actually
allow you to then extract thatbit of extra excitement out of
(21:33):
it from a sound perspective.
Right, right yeah totally so.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So, if, if, if sound is like you know, use case
number two, let's say um, the.
The third one is, um, drivingexperience and from what I
understand, um, there are waysto improve, uh, the way the
transmission shifts and retainsthe power from the turbochargers
(21:59):
.
So, um, I've got some tileupgrades.
They're called inlet tube pipes, basically the pipes that
connect the air box to theturbos and then the turbos to
the cats.
They're lighter weights andthey increase the flow, blah,
(22:23):
blah, blah.
So I've got some of thosecoming.
They look like a prettystraightforward kind of bolt on
Um.
And then, from FlatsixMotorsports, I've got some, um,
uh, what are they called?
Uh, turbo diverter valves.
So the factory valves, even inthe GTS models, are plastic, um,
and once you increasehorsepower beyond about 500, um,
(22:44):
you can actually lose some ofthe pressure.
They start to bleed and leak alittle bit.
Um, right, so as you'reshifting through the gears,
you're not actually retainingthe spool and the power.
So by by including, you know,by by putting these pipes in and
also by switching out some ofthese other plug and play kind
of components, um, I'm hopefullygoing to be improving throttle
(23:07):
response and improving that sortof driving experience through
the gears.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
What are you doing and I half know the answer to
this already, but you're talkingabout a lot of things that, in
a straight line perspective,will make for a faster car.
What are you doing so that youcan slow down and get around
corners?
Dude, I live in the midwest Idon't need to worry about that.
I know you don't, but, but, but, but.
(23:31):
Ultimately, this is going to bea, a dragon slayer, right?
That's what you're trying tobuild.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, no, that's true yeah, yeah, so I I've started
looking a little bit into likethe upgraded brake kits and at
some point maybe I'll get thereand you know the various options
that there are for the brakerotors.
In fact, I think my friendChris showed me a link the other
(23:57):
day to some kind of carbonfiber brake discs or carbon
fiber brake rotors.
Have you heard of those?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, Well, yeah, I mean Porsche, obviously do the
PCCBs.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Right, but I'm talking like carbon weave.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean I don't think you needthat.
I mean, who needs anything?
I was going to say I don't needany of these things.
I mean, look, if I'm honest, Iimagine the stock stock brakes,
unless you're on track, willperform just fine.
Yeah, and I've seen how youdrive.
I don't think you're pushingthat fast.
(24:36):
But you know, I know, I knowagain, I hate to, I hate to plug
him again, but I know Tommy haddone a brake upgrade on his um.
I mean, I would think, thinkhonestly, if you just put the S
brakes on, which are a biggerrotor, larger calipers, that
(24:57):
would more than suffice, becausethey're the same brakes that
are on the GTS.
I think.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't think there's a huge amount to be gained
beyond that for a street caryeah, I think you're probably
right and I'm never going to begetting my car out onto the
track because my fat head insidea ginormous uh helmet does not
fit inside my little cabin.
Oh, by the way, I knew therewas something I wanted to tell
you.
I knew there was something Iwanted to get you.
(25:28):
So my birthday the other dayyou posting that photo of my
head, the close-up shot in thevideo.
Oh my God, dude, I mean I'mmassively self-conscious about
the size of my head already.
(25:49):
I'm so sorry, and thescreenshot that you chose was
the one that my head is so closeto the camera.
It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Mate, that's every shot.
That's the entire scene.
Yeah, I know, put it on theother side of your car, then
your head will look small.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, but then my stomach just looks even bigger.
So you know it swings androundabouts do you know what I
like it?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I like the intimacy of it.
I feel like I'm right therewith you.
It's really quite nice screwyou man um so what about
suspension?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
uh, you know what?
I haven't even started thinkingabout that.
To be honest, I, I'm I've gotso much to go to work through
with all of these differentparts that are coming.
Um, you, so that that post youmentioned, uh, about social
media, last night I was, youknow, I was up till two in the
morning and I was looking atvideos and researching tools
(26:44):
that I need and diy jobs, and Ithink I'm I'm almost at the
point of cycling myself out ofthese jobs.
I don't think I can addanything else, anything else to
the list right now, but I, I amsuper excited about all this
stuff.
Um, I, I really kind of it likeI haven't attempted any of these
(27:08):
jobs before, like I haven'tdone any of this.
I mean the exhaust that I'veput on my previous cars I've had
done for me, like PorscheMinneapolis and Eurocharge
Minneapolis.
They've done the work for me.
I thought you did that.
No, I've done exhaust work onmy friend Chris's turbo and his
GT3, and we've done thattogether and, to be fair, I'm
(27:30):
roping him in to help me with alot of this stuff.
So this is going to be I mighteven swear him in as a deputy
auto amateur, you know kind ofauto amateur will no longer be a
company of one, it'll be abrand of two.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, wow.
Well, I'm very excited to seeit all.
I was interested that you choseh&r springs rather than ibarc.
I know, I think h&r tend todrop a little lower than an
ibarc and tend to ride a littlefirmer well, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm just, I'm interested in doing the job and
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I honestly it's not that hard, it's hard, that's one
you can do easily.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, again that's another Tommy Algaric video that
I've watched.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, I know, I didn't want to say it, I've
watched that video approximately50 times.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So now I feel like I could, you know, sort of recite
all of his commentary, you know,on spec.
You know it looks prettystraightforward, but honestly,
if these hadn't been offered tome for a couple hundred dollars,
I don't think I would have, Iprobably wouldn't have bought
them anyway.
So, um, I'm gonna give it a go,if, if they're good, if they're
fun, you know great, if I don'tlike them I'll go back to stock
(28:41):
or try something else.
You know, um, I'm more lookingforward to doing the job
actually and making the videothan anything else but you'll,
you will honestly, your nexttrip to tale of the dragon.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
There there is a benefit, there is a benefit from
a, from a cornering perspectivethat, yeah, maybe, in fact,
which?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
which one of your mates?
Uh, so I, when I went to thetale of the dragon this summer,
I've got a shot of me goingaround a corner, um, taking a
right, so I'm in the outside, um, I can't remember, was it
philby?
I honestly don't remember.
But one of your mates was like,oh, you got your car lowered
and I was like no, no, no,that's yeah yeah, I can't
(29:22):
remember no that.
That's me in the car, weighingit down, going around a corner
at speed yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's just your suspension loaded up in a corner
what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
centrifugal motion and gravity I love those photos.
There's some uh, there's somecracking shots from that, yeah
yeah, I really love that, butyou know that that whole area
has been hit pretty hardrecently with um hurricane helen
, um which yeah, it's been.
It's crazy you know to think, ahurricane that you know forms
(29:57):
over the sea has has turned intoa tropical storm which has come
inland and there's been so muchrainfall in the mountains that
these mountain towns and citieshave been basically washed away.
That's it's.
Yeah, I saw a video of theTopeka Lodge, which is this old,
historic kind of hotel andrestaurant at one end of the
(30:19):
Tale of the Dragon and it's gotthis beautiful whitewater river
that kind of flows past it.
But it's a good, it must be agood 20 feet above the river.
The photo or the video I sawhad the water like level with
the with the patio, and I mean Ihope it didn't get washed away.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
it's just incredible what's gone on there oh, yeah,
these I mean the, you knowthere's.
It's just devastating these,these, these poor people and
communities that are that arehaving to live through this.
You know where I'm watching itfrom, from half a world away,
and where we're just as shockedover here and and, yeah, yeah,
thoughts, thoughts are witheverybody dealing with that,
(31:00):
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And now florida's doing the same, and I know a lot
of um porsche owners and othercar enthusiasts down in florida
oh yeah, wake up and find theirgarages completely underwater.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's just, it's tragic yeah, well, I I was gonna
watch um adam lz, whose videosI've been watching a lot of
lately.
He's got this project 964 thathe bought from japan, a mint
mint green 964 tiptronic, whichhe has just gradually turned
into an absolute monster, andit's now got a 4.1 litre
(31:32):
Rossport engine in it.
The thing is just the mostincredible build.
Yeah, just an incredible car.
But I saw he posted on YouTubethis morning that, where he is
again, he's got this wholecompound.
Looked like it had flooded.
(31:53):
So, yeah, as I say, it'sseemingly hitting incredibly
hard and we can see it from here.
So, yeah, like I say, thinkingof everybody, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Now looking at the other coast, on the west coast,
let's talk about Luftgekult.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah.
So I nearly went this year andas as, yeah, I which of course I
would have I mean, I don't knowwhy you didn't go, but uh, I
was talking about it with kathand she said why don't you go?
You should just go.
And, to be honest, the mainreason I wanted to go was it
(32:31):
felt as though the entire globalporsche community was
descending on luft 10.
And you know people we've had onthe show, like rick from rico
customs, um.
You know mo and kirsten fromfrom flat six, high five.
All of these people that you,you know, you just have these
(32:52):
relationships with via socialmedia and messages and
conversations.
I would have really loved theopportunity to meet them.
And Kath was saying, well, yeah, you should go.
And unfortunately I had a workevent on the Friday night here
in Melbourne which just meant Icouldn't get there in time for
it.
And look, there was a part ofme that thought, well, if I'm
(33:16):
going to go to Los Angeles foranother Luft event, it probably
makes sense for me to do one.
That's not a sequel of one I'vealready done.
So, the only other time I'vebeen to Loof was when it was at
Universal.
So as much as I think that wasan incredible event and from
(33:38):
I've not been to any others, butmy sense of it has always been
that as a location, that was oneof the best, unless you're, at,
deus Ex Machina, back for thefirst one.
So as much as I think thatthere was a part of me that
thought, okay, if I'm going todo something dumb and fly to los
, angeles for a weekend, then Imight as well do that when it's
(34:01):
luft somewhere else versusuniversal, which I've done
before.
But that said, it looks likethere were all of these
additional activations andthings they did this time around
to just elevate it yet again.
It seems to be now anincredibly well-oiled machine.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, yeah, I get the sense of that as well, in fact.
So I heard through thegrapevine that you know, every
year they are just trying to uptheir game constantly Same thing
, but different, same thing butdifferent year on year.
They're actually doing anotherevent this weekend in
Chattanooga, which, if myAmerican geography serves me
(34:43):
correctly, is Tennessee-ish orKentucky, somewhere in the
middle there, somewhere right inthe middle.
But yeah, there's a, a motorcar festival there this weekend,
chattanooga motor car festival,and they're going to be there,
I think, for like two or threedays.
I don't know if it's likeconsidered a pop-up show or what
have you, but yeah, we'reseeing, you know, kind of like I
(35:05):
guess, little, little breakoffsfrom, I guess, little
break-offs from the main annualevents as well pop up now.
And I'm all for it.
The one that I attended inIndianapolis was still the best
show I'd been to to date.
In the six or seven years nowthat I've been attending shows
(35:26):
like this, it was justabsolutely phenomenal.
No other event has come close,actually.
So, wow, if they're going tostart spinning up these you know
little pop-up shows here andthere and everywhere, god,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I agree, and I think you know what they've been
doing in Europe is incredible.
I think the challenge you knowwith all of these things is how
do you maintain a sense ofintimacy and cool underground
vibe whilst just building it tobe able to cope with, now, the
(36:03):
level of consumer, participantdemand?
Because if you look at thecrowds at at universal it, I
mean it looked like it was heavyand you know I even saw um a
few people posting on socialmedia how frustrating it was to
try and get photos withoutpeople in them and all this sort
(36:24):
of stuff.
And look, to be honest, my viewon that, certainly when I went
to Luft, was get over it,because it is a show about cars
and people and you know what theonly choice you've got is to
take photos of cars with peoplearound them, because that's the
experience and you know to seepeople getting frustrated that
(36:48):
someone's in their way becausethey want to have a look at a
917k race car that performed atLe Mans.
I think actually that personhas just as much of of shows our
good friend Darren Pfister atFD Motorsports his Deutsche
(37:14):
Spritz Tour.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I think it's called yeah, I see it's on.
Yeah, so by the time we releasethis it will have happened.
But it's coming up this weekendand I've seen all of the
promotions he's been runningthis week.
He's got some pretty cool merch.
I might hit him up and see if Ican buy a t-shirt from him,
(37:37):
because I kind of want one.
Um, but, uh, yeah, you know, I,I, this, this community just
that we're in, continues to growand evolve and, um, a man,
after doing these tale of thedragon trips with, with jay and
michael and chris, and so onover the last uh of years, I'm
kind of just aching to haveaccess to more of this.
I don't want to live in a world, maybe, where I've had too much
(37:58):
, you know, and everything'sjust completely saturated.
But I'd love to go on that roadtour and I'd love to get on an
Overcrest Productions road tour.
Once a year is not enough.
I've got to do another one,I've got to get out there and I
want to go and see another luftand I didn't make it this year
or last year, but hopefully nextyear.
Um, I, I feel like we're just,we're really lucky.
(38:19):
There's just so much stuffgoing on.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I just want more access oh no, I agree, I agree,
and, and, being where I am, youknow we're, we're, we're miles
from all of it.
And look we, thankfully we have, I think, an incredible Porsche
culture right here in Australia, and I and I, my personal view
is that Victoria, here inMelbourne, is is the best
(38:43):
example of that.
Um, but, globally, there is somuch I want to experience and
for me, to be honest, the bigpull that I feel at the moment
is wanting to.
It's the sort of outreach pull,if you like, all of these
people that I've had contactwith that I consider friends,
(39:07):
having never met them.
You know, you and I have never,never, shook hands, um, and all
of these people like that, who Ijust think I'm just, I just
really want to find a way tocome together with these people
and it's why, as I say, luft 10for me had a real, a real pull
to it, a real draw, because, asyou say, I just want to absorb
(39:29):
more of this entire culture.
The driving component I love,I've always loved, uh, but it's.
But it's also the people, thepeople that are involved, that I
think are something incrediblyspecial about porsche culture,
and I feel a real draw towanting to experience that on a
deeper level than I can viaInstagram messages.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, Well, speaking of travel, my friend, lifelong
awesome, one of my best friends,jodie, who lives in Perth she
is actually on her way to theStates this year.
I'm going to be hanging outwith her in California in
December.
I've been promising to visither now for the best part of the
15 years that I've been livingin the States and she's been
(40:17):
promising to come out here aswell.
But she's been out here.
This will be the third year ina row.
Now she speaks at conferencesin Vegas and you know.
So she comes out and we hangout.
But I've said to her look, allright, okay, next year is
probably going to be the year Icome to Australia this year.
(40:38):
I was maybe going to come toAustralia Last year.
No, there was no chance, butthis year was maybe, next year
probably.
So who knows, dude, maybe I'llget to give you a high five and
say hello to Choco the dog andall that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, dude, if that happens, there has to be a rally
component.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, yeah, totally, I'll have to steal a car or
something, but hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's all right.
There's ways and means.
There's ways and means.
Well, I've got speaking ofrallies.
Alpine range rally 10 is comingup in about five or six weeks.
For me, and having missednumber nine, which was
heartbreaking, to organize arally and then, not go.
(41:21):
Uh, was, was, was a low pointfor me this year.
Um, so I've not done a rallysince november last year, so I'm
so so looking forward to thisone, just cannot wait.
I mean, and I'm in the middleof this is always the exciting
part once I'm designing merch,that's, that's.
That's a thing for me which Ialways just I just gets me so
(41:43):
excited and you know the idea ofI kind of tease it out with
everybody and within the group,and you know there's always a
kind of a reveal moment and yeah, you're just looking for that
moment where everyone's like, oh, this one's really good, this
one's really good.
So hopefully everyone loves themerch.
(42:03):
But I think this rally is goingto be just fantastic.
I just can't wait to be outhaving an adventure again in
Little Green.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So are all of the usual suspects signed up again.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, usual suspects, you know we try and keep it as
sort of small as we can withinthat existing group and you know
it's so hard.
I get a lot of messages frompeople who want to come and, you
know, like good dudes who Iknow and would love to have
along, and we've just, it's justdifficult to maintain a group
(42:37):
size that is realistic to takeon a drive like this.
So I've always said I don'twant to have any more than 20
cars.
I think that's about.
It's certainly about as much aswe can manage in terms of the
basics of booking accommodation,booking food, all of those
types of things.
You know there's a lot ofmoving parts, but even just to
(43:00):
safely keep everybody togetherand safely, you know, get
everybody covering some 2,000kilometres over four days, I
just want to.
It's yeah, we unfortunatelyhave to keep it somewhat
confined.
So, yeah, the usual crew, butwe're doing it a little
differently this time.
We're adding a day and drivinginto some areas that we've never
(43:25):
been to before.
So I can't wait for that as well, exploring some new roads.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Exciting, exciting, I'm jealous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, before,so so I can't wait for that as
well.
Exploring some new roadsexciting, exciting, I'm jealous
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and soyou did.
Uh, we've not spoken since youdid your tale of the dragon trip
yeah, tale of the dragon wasawesome, but, um, yeah, there
was a bit of a shadow cast overthe whole weekend because, uh,
everybody had some kind of carissue.
(43:50):
It was.
Yeah, it was pretty weird.
So Jay got sideswiped before weeven got there, somebody drove
into the back of him on aroundabout, but he still.
He showed up, he drove up andthere he was, spent the whole
(44:10):
weekend driving with the side ofhis car smashed in.
But on day two his ignitionwouldn't turn over and so we
managed to kind of fiddle it andwe managed to get it to start,
but then later on in the day itjust went dead.
So day three he basically rodeshotgun in a bunch of different
(44:33):
cars, um, so that he could enjoythe weekend, and then he stayed
behind an extra day to get hiscar fixed, um at a local shop
when they opened up on themonday, while you know the rest
of us, yeah, so so that was jake, um, mark and his son matthew.
His ECU and air conditioningwent on the blink the week
(44:54):
before the trip.
So they they hired a Caymanfrom Turo and so they didn't
miss the weekend, um, and theydiscovered halfway through the
weekend that the wheels were puton um backwards.
Yeah, the wheels had been puton the wrong way, basically, so
(45:16):
they tied, they decided to sortof, you know, pull off the gas
and just take it easy and theycouldn't be bothered swapping
them around.
But yeah, whoever basicallyrotated the tires had put them
on the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I know right.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
So that was their issue.
I think what was Michael'sissue?
Michael's starter motor went.
As he got home, me and Chrisboth got flat tires.
We got nails in the same partof the tire and my wheel bearing
went as well.
It sounded like my PDdktransmission was going, actually
(45:52):
, and I there was this hummingkind of drone sound in the cabin
.
So I had that issue.
And then todd, who was drivinghis uh convertible 993 um one of
his belts snapped and he got aflat tire just as he was getting
back into min.
So everybody's car was fuckedat some point during the weekend
.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
So yeah, we're hoping you know next time we go back,
everything will be fine.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
But you know maybe Was the driving good anyway.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Because this was your first time there in the 991.2,.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Right, yeah, it was absolutely awesome and I brought
my son Luke with me.
Who's seven oh?
That's right, he really enjoyedit, absolutely loved it.
In fact in one of the gas helikes owls and in one of the gas
stations we saw this giantstuffed owl which he bought.
And in the oh that was in thepassenger seat it was in the
(46:50):
passenger seat the whole time,but in one of the photos that
was taken by Dragonslayer orKillboy or what have you,
there's this great shot of mycar and all you can see is this
owl's head in the passenger seat.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's a right-hand drive 911 piece.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
So that was a really great weekend and the car
handled really well and you know, I think in part that probably
spurred me on to do some of themods as well, because I really I
took advantage of PASM for thefirst time.
This is the first car I've hadPASM and I was driving the whole
time with that on and reallyenjoyed, you know, and noticed
(47:29):
the difference that with that on, and really enjoyed, you know,
and noticed the difference thatthat it made on the suspension
and go around the corners, yeah.
So yeah, get it on, get it on.
We were thinking about doinglike a full color trip in two
weeks time but with thehurricane and so on, we've kind
of knocked that on the head sothis kind of leads me and I know
I'm working up the list on ourshow notes in reverse somewhat.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I did read in your t911 column you talked about the
one thing it did, it did sortof bring to light from your
perspective was the manualversus pdk thing and that that
you still think you find ahigher level of engagement in
the manual transmission yeah, Ithink, I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Um, I you know, having been on the tail now with
a couple of pdks and a coupleof manuals, I think the manual
is the way to go ultimately.
And there's going around thosecorners and just picking exactly
the moment when you want tochange gear and knowing exactly
(48:32):
the rev range you want to be in.
Yeah, it's more precise.
I guess that's the way I woulddescribe it.
There's more precision.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Are you shifting in PDK or are you letting the car?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
No, I am shifting in PDK.
I've got it in manual mode, um,but there's, there's just
something about that momentwhere you make the decision to
put the clutch in and you movethe shifter where your heart's
in your mouth a little bit andthe you know the the the clutch
goes back and everythingre-engages.
(49:07):
Um, I think, just if I had totake on a road like that and I
was given the choice between amanual and an automatic, I'd
pick the manual for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Would you if the car was a different car, let's say
it was a turbo or it was a GT3,would you feel differently, do
you think?
I mean, I know a turbo doesn'tcome in a manual anyway, so it's
a moot point but I suppose mypoint being do you think your
interest or preference for amanual is driven somewhat by the
(49:41):
car being, let's say, a lowerpowered, you know kind of base
model where you can lean on itreally hard regardless?
Or or do you think you'd feelthat way across across the board
?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
um, yeah, that that probably has something to do
with it.
Actually, yeah, you know theidea of having to work harder to
get more out of the car, um,and really make it perform, yeah
, but then, at the same time,just thinking about the base
nine nine one dot one and thebase nine nine one dot two, yeah
, there is a power difference,um, but it's you know, it's not
(50:15):
a hundred horses, it's not thedifference between a base and
the turbo or a base and the GTthree no that's right.
You still have to work out ofthe car.
Um, it's funny looking at chrisin my rearview mirror where I'm
pulling away from him and then,all you know, a split second
(50:35):
later, there he is.
He's got, he's just right there.
Um, it might, it might bedifferent now, actually, when I
take it back and I've, I've gotall this extra power and you
know, with the, with the tune,um, yeah, I wonder what that's
going to be like.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I think a lot of that .
It just depends on the roadtype you know, in terms of.
I know, when I had the GT4, forexample, there are certain
roads where, if I wanted to, Icould just pull a gap on the
person behind me, dependent uponif that was typically something
(51:08):
where it was perhaps a higherspeed road, perhaps it was up a
hill, and then you have a torqueadvantage and things like that.
But you know, through thetighter twisties I didn't that
car or people we've driven withwith GT3s, anything like that
there's still.
I think ultimately it comesdown to cornering speed more
than it does power and awell-set-up car and someone who
(51:31):
knows how to drive it will keepup with most things.
But I think it's an interestingpoint about the manual, you know
, and talking about the decisionto put the clutch in, because I
think one of the things I'vefound with my manual cars
certainly versus my PDK car is,you know, there are some roads
where you'll take a second gearcorner and then there's a
(51:52):
straight and another second gearcorner and you kind of have
this decision to make of do Iring the car's neck for three
seconds and keep it in secondcoming into that next corner?
Or do I shift up and then shiftdown?
And you know, so often, I think, in a manual car I just ring
(52:12):
the car's neck and maybe that'snot the fastest way to do it,
but you know it's.
It's feels like a motorsportexperience, versus if you're in
a pdk, there's no um, there's nocost to shifting up, because
it's just you just grab thepaddle and you're up a gear and
it's okay, you're still in thepower band and then you can, you
(52:34):
know, a moment later shift downagain.
So I think I think again,there's something about the
manual that makes you make thesedecisions a little.
I suppose the decision-makingprocess requires a little more
thought than it does in a, in a,in a PDK, because the
compromises aren't there andthat, I think, helps I don't
(52:56):
know, just helps me get a littlemore out of the experience.
I don't have a view either way.
I'm not one of these people whothinks that you know, it's
manual or nothing, it's threepedals or nothing.
I'm not of that view at all andI really enjoy driving a PDK car
.
I think ultimately mypreference for road driving in
(53:17):
the twisties, for a spiriteddrive would would almost always
be a manual.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, I think this is why all Porsche enthusiasts
need three or four cars in theirgarage.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
You know, yeah, yeah, it's a hundred percent fair To
choose from.
Yeah, porsche enthusiasts needthree or four cars in their
garage.
You know, yeah, yeah, it's 100%fair to choose from.
Yeah, you know.
No, I agree, I agree.
Now, going as I said, we'regoing up the list.
This I did mention that I'dread your column in Total 9-11,
which which mentioned your Taleof the Dragon Drive and
mentioned your preference formanual and PDK.
(53:49):
Can we take a minute to talkabout Total 9-11?
Speaker 1 (53:52):
We've got to yeah, we absolutely have to, and not
only Total 9-11, but Mr LeeSibley, we've got to talk about
him as well.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, yeah.
So, for those of you who don'tknow, total 9-11 is folding.
The magazine is finishing up.
All of us who write a columnfor it the living, the legend
column, uh were notified, Iguess a couple months back,
right, um, and you know it's,it's.
It's unfortunately one of thesethings where, like so many
(54:23):
magazines, they, they, they'repropped up by advertising spend
and you know the, theadvertisers just aren't there to
warrant the magazine continuingto be printed.
So it's coming to an end, whichis a real shame.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, in fact, issue 249 is on the shelves right now.
My dad, in fact, just emailedme this week saying he got his
in the mail and this was thefirst he'd heard about it.
He got an email this weeksaying your subscription's over.
So if you rush out and get thevery last ever edition of Total
(54:59):
9-11, you can show that to yourgrandkids one day.
But it's really sad, God, Icould talk about it for ages.
But you know, long story short,total nine 11 is the reason I
bought my first Porsche.
You know I've I've always lovedPorsche and I've talked about
(55:21):
it across.
You know so many differentforums and platforms since I was
a kid.
But you know, in my mid or mylate thirties, um, since I was a
kid, but in my mid or my late30s, in a position where I was
able to buy a car, because I wasno longer in a city like New
York City or London where youdidn't need a car.
Oh look, there's a Porschemagazine on the shelf.
(55:42):
I'll buy it.
It was an edition that was abuyer's guide.
I spent the best part of amonth reading every page.
Read that thing cover to cover,learning about every single
generation and the price rangesand all the stats on every model
, and it opened my eyes to thefact that, well, actually there
(56:03):
is a Porsche out there in myprice range that I've come to
adore over the years.
That might actually be a carthat I can buy.
And a month later I'm out therein LA picking it up and I
subscribed to it and I followedand I got to know Lee through
the magazine and he invited meto blah, blah, blah.
(56:27):
I've been writing a column for acouple of years now, as of you,
um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't bedriving the cars I'm driving
today if it wasn't for total9-11 magazine and, um, oh man,
I'm gonna miss it, I'm gonnaabsolutely miss it.
But you know what I, what I dolike and love, is that lee isn't
going anywhere and lee is theheart and soul of that magazine.
(56:48):
Um, you know, he uh, it's afascinating story about how he
got started there, um, becausehe wasn't the editor in the
beginning and he's become theeditor at large and, um, he's
been, you know, running thatthat show for for a good number
of years.
Um, but he's got his.
He's got his own life and hisown brand and his own Porsche
(57:09):
experience and dream, which isnine works outside of total nine
11.
And hopefully that's going tolive and continue, which which
we all know it is Um.
So you know, if you don'tfollow nine works, follow nine
works.
Nine works radio.
Nine works road trips NineWorks Road Trips NineWorkscom.
(57:29):
Nineworksleon.
Instagram.
You know all of the fantasticcontent and knowledge and
excitement that has been comingthrough Total 9-11 Magazine.
It's not going anywhere becauseit's there in Nine Works.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
I think you know what I'vealways appreciated about the
magazine is I like that in thePorsche space there, different
magazines actually filldifferent needs.
Yeah, so for me.
So here in Australia, duck andWhale is probably the most
prevalent Porsche magazine.
Duck and Whale is, you know,produced by an organization that
(58:13):
is really design-focused,really photography-focused.
So I always find in Duck andWhale that that's a magazine I
will look through for the visualexperience.
I think the photography and thelayout, the art direction, is
absolutely stunning and thelayout, the art direction, is
absolutely stunning.
What I really loved about Total9-11 is I think the journalistic
(58:34):
approach in that magazine wasabsolutely top shelf and they
knew their stuff did reallyinteresting articles, really
interesting comparison articles,breaking down one car versus
another, whether that was acrossgenerations or within
generations, but very wellconsidered, very well researched
and in such a way that I thinkthere was something really that
(58:56):
you could gain from them.
I think you know the sad thingif I can pontificate for a
moment about the slow decline ofmagazines, I think I've always
loved magazines since I was akid, and I think the role that
magazines filled in our life wasone where, if you have a
(59:18):
specific interest let's say yourniche interest is Porsche your
access to content around Porscheis limited, or traditionally it
always has been and a magazinewas the one thing that every
month you would hold out waitingfor, so that if you went to the
newsagent or if you had asubscription and it arrived, you
(59:39):
would then have a month toabsorb that content.
And every magazine that I had Iused to flip through it a
million times, read articlesover and over again,
particularly if it was anarticle about a car that I was
specifically interested infilled in a far more prolific
way with social media, withYouTube, where you can pick up
(01:00:01):
your phone any day of the weekand see plenty of amazing
content on Instagram or watch anincredible video on YouTube.
That gives you that fix.
So when the magazine arrives,the desperate need that you once
(01:00:26):
had to just scour it cover tocover, that has dissipated over
time and that's why we've seen Ithink just you know across the
board that magazines influenceand prevalence in news agents
and the like has just diminishedso, so much.
But you know like you say.
(01:00:47):
Congratulations to Lee and theentire team there at Total 9-11
for such a great mag.
It's certainly been a thrill forme being able to have a printed
column.
I mean, you know, I kind ofhassled Lee to let me write
something for him.
You know, I've always wanted tobe a writer in print and the
(01:01:09):
fact that he, you know, probablyjust thought, oh yeah, it'd be
good to have a dude fromaustralia that was uh that.
That that felt, uh, that feltlike a blessing for me.
So I'm certainly gonna miss,miss writing my monthly column,
but but, like james said, if youcan get a get a hold of the
last issue, then then I'd sayit's well worth doing.
And, and I'm sure everyone hereis already already following,
(01:01:33):
uh, lee and nine works.
God knows, we promote themenough on this pod, um, so look,
shall we jump to video of theweek?
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
yes, and you know what I've watched video of the
week can.
Can you believe it?
Have you actually?
Well, yeah, I mean you sent methe link 10 minutes before the
pod and I had nothing better todo.
I was about to say which one?
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Because I had suggested one.
I had suggested actually one ofAdam LZ's.
This has just been an entirepot of promoting other people's
YouTube channels, but I hadsuggested one of Adam's videos.
But then this morning I thoughtactually no, I want to, I want
to talk about this one.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Is it because?
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
it's a 964 and you have a 964?
.
I must confess, I'm quiteconscious of the fact that
there's a video of the week doesoften feature an air-cooled car
, but did we ever?
I you know I needed to ask youthis question.
Do you remember that video ofthe yellow GT3 Touring that I
think was going to be video ofthe week?
Last time we recorded, but Idon't think we ever did that pod
(01:02:37):
.
Was it the one that?
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I chose no Because there have been a number of
videos of the week that I'vesuggested that I've never seen
the light of day.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
What three Come on what?
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
have you ever suggested?
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
No, remember that amazing yellow GT3?
It's like yes, you do, it's inLA.
I sent it to you a couple ofmonths ago.
Anyway, do you know what?
If we haven't featured it onthe pod next time we record, in
six months, we'll make thatvideo of the week.
It's like a bahama yellow 991.2gt3 touring dude, you've.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
You've not only lost me, you've lost the audience.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Let's talk about the actual video of the week let's
talk about the actual video ofthe week, which is a 964rs.
It's on the furka pass, it's a.
It's a film Night Run Films,who are doing some really lovely
stuff.
Actually, if I'm honest,there's maybe a little bit too
much of a penchant for drivinggloves, but I'll let that slide.
Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
I've got to say I know one or two people that wear
driving gloves and I just comeon, I can't do it, I can't.
I just come on, I can't do it,I can't.
I just seriously Driving glovesIf you're wearing driving
gloves.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
stop now, because it is the equivalent of the guys
who go road cycling and then getoff their bikes at the cafe and
come, click, click, click,clicking on their stupid cycling
shoes into the cafe.
They think it's cool.
Everyone around them justthinks they're the biggest dorks
ever.
Here's the thing If you aredriving a short wheelbase 911
(01:04:20):
with a wooden steering wheel,wear yourself some driving
gloves.
I'm all about that.
But if you've got awater-cooled car, if you're
driving a car with an Alcantarasteering wheel or leather, just
no no to the driving gloves.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Stop Burn the driving gloves, burn them.
Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Exactly.
Anyway, let's talk about thisfilm because actually, if I'm
honest, one of the first thingsI noticed.
So the film is actually calledPorsche 964 RS no emotional
coffee runs and the first thingI thought when I saw that was oh
, it seemed a bit of a snarkydig at cars, with Luke who often
(01:05:03):
does a coffee run where he getsa bit emotional.
It felt to me like it wasactually ooh okay.
As a fellow YouTuber.
That seemed like I say, alittle bit snarky, but it's
actually the driver of the carwho says it, this guy Laz, who
says it pretty early on in thefilm.
He says I don't use it for, Idon't drive it in the city or
(01:05:25):
use it for emotional coffee runs, it's just for in the hills.
So, okay, there was somecontext for that.
It wasn't a dig at anotherYouTuber.
Look, if I'm honest, one of thereasons and this may sound a
bit goofy, but one of thereasons I'm not producing as
much content is that I find thelocations here I want to try and
(01:05:49):
make beautiful content, yeah,and I find the locations of
where I drive pretty bland bycomparison.
I'm not going to talk about theindustrial estates where you
film, but you know anyone who'smaking these videos in
Switzerland at the Furka Passand the Susten Pass and all
(01:06:10):
these amazing places it's.
I mean, come on, talk aboutunfair advantage much.
I know right it's just so to seea 964RS driving these
incredible roads, the Furka Pass, with that amazing hotel on the
hairpin that everyone takes aphoto of.
And do you know?
What I love is something thatLaz said.
(01:06:32):
He talks about having a 992 GT3and how much he loved that car
but how he couldn't reallyexperience it because to drive
it at anywhere near the level heneeded to drive it to feel like
he was leaning on it, pushingit.
You know he's going to end upin jail and you know the 964 is
(01:06:55):
a nice antidote to that.
So I know I'm a 964 maven, butseeing a 964 in this environment
with this sort ofcinematography, I think it's
pretty special.
Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
So let me just interject an alternative theory
um so laz got himself the gt3touring 992 and um didn't
appreciate the fact that hewasn't able to afford his
monthly payments because of hiswife's expensive coffee
(01:07:30):
addiction.
So he had to give it back andtrade it in for the air-cooled
964.
And now he's out driving byhimself because the wife doesn't
want to be seen in a30-year-old car going to
Starbucks to get afrappa-chappa-floppa-lappuccino
with half-whip no-w, no whop,whip, whip phoned up.
(01:07:52):
That's the real answer, andy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Where the fuck did that come from?
Because also, you know it's a964RS right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Yeah, I know it is.
Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I mean in terms of dollars.
I know it's a 964RS, right?
Yeah, I know it is.
I mean in terms of dollars, Iknow it is.
That'd probably sell for morethan a 992 GT3 Touring, I know
it is.
Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
The film is absolutely spectacular.
I love the film.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
I love the film.
James, you and me will talk offair.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I'm getting phone calls from our sponsors.
Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I think we've lost a couple of our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Our driving glove sponsors have just pulled the
pin oh well, look on thatbombshell.
I think we're done for anotherpod and it's not going to be
another three months until werecord next time.
You better not cancel on menext week, andy gauntz, don't,
don't even yeah, don't even justI.
Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I really want to make this clear to our listeners.
The amount of times.
Do you know what?
This morning is the first timeI haven't done show notes
because, quite honestly, Ithought I'm gonna do this.
And then, five minutes beforewe're supposed to start, I'm
gonna get a text message sayingthat opens with the words ah,
fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
We'll see.
We'll see.
Well, look everybody.
Thanks for tuning in and we'llcatch you in another pod soon.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Thanks gang, See you soon.
Take care.
Andy Gorns, it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mr James McGrath, good to see you or speak to you,
and hello to everybodylistening.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back, mate welcome back to Curban Canyon,
mate.
Is it true?
It was June the last time weput out a podcast, and it's now
October.
How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, you know, I'll tell you how that happened A lot
of cancellations on your partand this thing you posted on
social media yesterday.
I want to get straight into it,because you and me we need to
clear some air.
We've got to get into this alittle therapy session to start
with, because you postingwaiting for Andy Ga gaunt to uh
(00:46):
cancel yet another podcast thatwas low, very low.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You know what I had to?
Draw first blood and, and Ican't believe you beat me to it
here live on the pod because Iwas about to start throwing you
under the bus left, right andcenter.
But, dude, get this we.
So this is our fourth season.
I guess, technically, the waythat we've divided it, we have
39 episodes behind us, whichmeans this is our 40th episode.
(01:12):
Four, zero, that's.
I mean it's, it's.
It's not an amazing number, butthat's, that's nothing to sniff
at it's.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I would say for us it's quite an achievement and
you know sure the run home to 40has been a little slow.
We've sort of stumbled towardsthat, let's say, somewhat
milestone, but hey, well done tous.
And if you're still listeningand if you're someone who has
listened since the start, well,thank you for listening and
(01:45):
staying patient with us?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, totally.
And dude, we've got so much totalk about.
You know, I've kept a number oftabs open on my Internet
Explorer for like well, I guessthe last three months of all the
things that have come up, thatI thought, oh, that'll be good
for the pod, that'll be good forthe pod, and like, we're not
going to get through all of them, of course.
For the part in, like, we'renot going to get through all of
them, of course.
But, um, you know, we we've gota little bit of this, we've got
(02:07):
a little bit of that, we've gotindustry stuff to talk about,
we've got our cars to talk aboutand mods.
Um, we're going to have alittle chat about Luft, one of
our favorite, um, Porsche showsthat's coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You a little bit for everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So you know who's going to say it first.
Well, first thing, I'm going tosay is Internet Explorer?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, not really.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
What is this 1997?
Welcome to Curb and Can.
All right, no, to be fair, lookInternet Explorer, whatever.
(02:58):
I have Safari, if you must know.
But who's going to All?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
right, mate, it's okay.
What are you surfing on AltaVista?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That takes it back.
So, Andy, you know, not onlyhave we not spoken for a while,
I feel like.
I feel like you've been alittle bit absent from the the
Porsche social media.
World no videos, no world, novideos, no major updates.
What's going on with you?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Look, all of the updates on the car have been,
you know, maintenance related.
So yeah, it's funny, I've gotin the show notes.
Yeah, topic number one our cars.
Bluey-tooey little green, and Ifeel like from a bluey-toey
perspective, I already know someof the stuff that's been going
(03:51):
on and it's some pretty excitingstuff With little green.
You know less.
So there's certainly been somedriving, but as I look at the
last invoice I received from uh,from the wonderful folks at
nine auto here, you know the,the most recent job, which was
not inexpensive, was all justabout making the ac work again.
(04:15):
So you know it.
Like I say, it's a couple ofgrand.
Uh, I knew this one was coming.
They told me about it last year.
They said you're sitting down,we're going to send you this
quote.
I said okay.
And I saw the quote and thoughtdo you know what?
That's something that can waittill next year.
(04:36):
It was already halfway throughsummer or whatever by this point
, so I thought that's fine, I'lljust leave it.
Um, but so not only had my ACuh kick the bucket, but uh,
there is a what's called a mixerflap, uh, which which basically
is the thing that sits, uh,inside the well, let's say and
(04:59):
this, I'm sorry this is theleast technical explanation you
are ever going to hear of ahighly technical thing, but it
basically takes you have a pipethat comes off your heat
exchangers and the like andthere's a flap that directs the
airflow.
So either bring in externalcold air or warm air that comes
(05:21):
off, I think, the heatexchangers and that is what
gives you either heat or cool inyour cabin, whether you're
running AC or not.
And the mixer flaps thatactually control that do start
to fail eventually on some ofthese old air-cooled cars and
it's a bit of a nightmare to getthat fixed.
(05:42):
But that was done.
And the last thing, the lastdrive I had had, I was driving
along and it didn't matter whattemperature I set within the car
, it didn't matter whether I hadAC on or not, it was blowing
full hot.
So it was like imagine yourheater on its highest setting
(06:04):
and, to be honest, in an oldair-cooled car the heat is
actually really good.
So it was.
I was driving along in themiddle of winter with every
window down, the sunroof open,even though it was pouring rain
and just roasting it was, andprobably the most uncomfortable
moment was when I finallyarrived at a traffic light and,
(06:26):
you know, this family in an suvlooked across and at that point
I was driving in my underwear.
But it's all I could do.
It was all I could do to handlethe heat.
So that has subsequently beenfixed, all sorted, and the car
is going in for a service in acouple of weeks, really just to
be ready for a summer of drivingand, to be honest, this winter
(06:49):
it's been a little bit slimpickings in terms of driving.
You know, as you know, wetypically drive all year round
here, but you know, I just thinkeveryone's had other things
going on in their worlds andthere hasn't been as much
driving.
And that then means you don'tdo, there's not as many photos,
there's not as much to share onInstagram.
So, yes, I have been a littlebit quiet.
(07:11):
I've got to say there iscontent coming.
I feel like I say that everypodcast.
But yeah, let's be honest, wehaven't done a podcast for four
months, so who cares?
But there is, there's contentcoming.
So that's where little green'sat, that's where the content's
at.
But you, on the other hand,well, some fun stuff happening
it's true, but I'm just gonnastop you right there.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You've got to stop saying flap, and I'm also not a
massive fan of the word flange,just just so you know.
I I don't.
I don't know why, but it makesme uncomfortable, and you've
said flap at least five times,so I'm now feeling slightly
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That is that's I'm not hearing.
That does not surprise me atall, because I saw your
Instagram post this morning.
You posted a shot of a singer Ithink DLS with something about
pants getting tighter.
It is just for anyone listeningat home.
Recording this pod is a littlebit like hanging out with a
15-year-old that you went toschool with.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
To be fair, though, how nice was that singer?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Of course.
And what about you?
What's going?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
on Dude.
So much it's.
You know I've managed to sortof break the back of all the
different things I've had goingon this year and, um, I've
managed to find quite a bit oftime to get in the garage.
Uh, and I'm super excited.
You know I've spent the pastsort of a couple of weeks
helping my friend chris work onhis gt3 touring.
(08:42):
Uh, he wanted to um install, uhthe uh the sole performance
center muffler delete.
Um, we did that in my garage.
It was the first time we reallygot to give my new garage lift.
I got a two post lift at somepoint earlier on in the year to
replace my scissor lifts whichwere starting starting to get,
(09:02):
you know, a little bit bendy.
They were getting a little bitdangerous and you know, I just I
guess I've been bitten by thebug again.
So working on Chris's car kindof spurred me on and you know, I
think also there was awell-timed comment from you on
social media where you remindedme that when I first got this
(09:25):
991.2 about a year ago, I kindof promised that I was just
going to be focusing onperformance mods and not, you
know, aesthetics and look andfeel and essentially all I've
done for the last 14 months istweak the look and feel with my
stripes and my caliper paintingand my you know my stripes and
my caliper painting and my youknow yellow tack face.
(09:46):
And I was actually about to doyellow seatbelts.
I was thinking about postingthat on social media and then
you dropped that line and I waslike, oh fucking hell, I better
start focusing on somethingother than tweaking.
So you know, let's do some realmods.
And so about this time a monthago, just as I was finishing off
(10:07):
the videos about Chris's Santamuffler, somebody got in touch
with me and offered me adiscount on some H&R Springs,
which of course made me laugh,because you're always going on
about my Safari ride-hike carsand I thought you know what?
For a couple of hundred dollars, even if I don't keep them,
(10:28):
this is worth a go.
So that rolled into somethingelse, which rolled into
something else.
And, you know, a couple ofweeks later I've now got I maybe
won't put a dollar value on it,but let's just say I've blown
my mods budget for the nextcouple of years in one foul
swoop and I've got a dozendifferent things arriving over
(10:50):
the next week.
I'm going to line them all upin the garage and then between
now and hopefully the end of theyear and no later, I'm going to
be doing them all.
But man, it's a big list, it'sa lot so what's?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
what does the list entail?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What's done and what is still to be done.
Well, nothing's actually done.
Yet I bought a carbon fibrediffuser.
Can that count as a performancepart?
Wouldn't have thought so.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, I'm sure the copy on the website uh pictures
it as a performance part.
But no, I wouldn't have thoughtso.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh, well, that's, that's screwed that one up.
Well, so this, this carbonfiber performance part not
performance part that I've hadsat on my workbench for the best
part of the last 10 months,actually tried to install it on
saturday the fucker didn't fitthey.
They uh, oh, no, they I.
I I asked them are you sure itfits a 991.2 with the sports
(11:52):
exhaust?
And they were like yeah, yeah,yeah, it arrived.
I looked at it, wasn't too sureabout it, tried to fit it.
It didn't fit.
So anyway, I did try to getstarted with that.
It it's not done.
So I guess I've done my tune.
That's incredible.
I saw the video, mates.
You know I've always been alittle bit skeptical of engine
tuning, to be honest.
(12:13):
I mean the whole idea that youcan just magically, you know,
wave a wand, flip a switch andall of a sudden your car puts
out loads more power.
Yeah, I just didn't quitebelieve it, which is probably
part of the reason why it sat onmy desk for the best part of a
year.
And now I've done it.
I, I can't believe it didn'tsooner and that didn't do it
(12:34):
sooner.
And now I'm like thinking, well, what else can I do?
I can get an extra 50 horsesfrom this.
I can install some more turbosand get an extra horses over.
Uh, extra hundred horses overhere.
Um, so it's a soft tronic tune.
Um, I had it on the dyno.
It's given me an extra hundreduh brake horsepower.
It's given me an extra 120 footpounds of torque, um, wow.
(12:55):
So if you look at the factoryspecs of the of the lineup um, I
am 1515 brake horsepower awayfrom the gt3, um and I'm about
par in terms of foot poundstorque with the gt3.
So for a 1500 tune, I've takena bass carrera and it's putting
(13:19):
out more power than the s, morepower than the gts and I'm
almost at gt3 levels I was aboutto say, where does it sit
compared with the gts?
so more power than a gts yeah,yeah, yeah, I mean, you know if
these specs are correct and andhopefully the ones I pulled down
online are um, that porschebranded um.
You know the, yeah, the, uh,the, the.
(13:40):
The gt3 is putting out 500,that the gts is putting just
north of um, I want to say 450,I think it is um and and I'm
putting out about 485 um.
That is incredible and so and Iimagine obviously that that
that's visible on the dyno, butI assume it's very much apparent
(14:01):
when you're driving yeah well,I did the butt dyno test first,
obviously, you know, just gotout on the road and thought
let's give it some gas, Evenjust taking it out of my garage.
The throttle response, thepower was just instantaneous.
You know, I almost took it outof the garage a little faster or
a little too fast, because thepower is just like it's right
(14:24):
there.
It's just right there, um anduh.
You can, you can really likefeel it in the back of your head
and in your stomach as you dothe standing start and, uh, you
know, you just tear in a way.
It's, it's, it's reallyincredible, um, so, yeah.
So I'm thinking now what elsedo I do?
(14:45):
You know, I'm looking at FlatSix Motorsports in Florida.
They've got a stage two or astage three tune which they sort
of guarantee will put out about675 or 700 horses.
I mean, it's like $14,000 worthof investment.
So I don't think I'm going to gothat far, if I, you know, look
at just replacing maybe theturbos with the GTS turbos and
(15:06):
some of the other parts thatI've got coming with maybe a
slightly more um, sort of customtune.
Um, maybe I can get into thehigh five hundreds.
Although, to be perfectlyhonest, where I am right now,
it's awesome.
It's it's, it's absolutelyawesome the fact that I've got a
base career that's morepowerful than the s and the gts.
(15:26):
I'm super happy.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's like fantastic yeah, I, I was gonna say that
because what's the what's theend goal?
Because there's only so muchusable horsepower, right, and
yeah, and you know, I suppose itcomes down to when you're doing
any of these sort of modswhat's the use case, what's the
end goal?
How do you see yourself usingit?
Um, because actually a questionI had is uh, is the calibration
(15:54):
or tuning of things liketraction control does?
Does that change?
Uh, as as as you increasehorsepower, either out of the
factory, from porschespecifically, or with these
tunes, because I imagine, yeah,you're putting a hell of a lot
more power to the rear wheels Iassume there's some sort of
calibration that the factorywould do that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's probably not done via these tunes um, not
from from the research that I'vedone.
No, I don't think so, until youactually start playing around
with the intercoolers, um, andyou start getting a bit or a
little bit closer to the engine.
So all of the all of the um,the mods that I'm doing now, you
(16:35):
know, basically just bolt-ons.
So I'm not doing, I'm not doinganything with the engine itself
, I'm not doing anything withthe suspension, um, I'm really
not doing anything with thedrivetrain.
They're just it's bolt-ons tobasically increase airflow.
I mean, that's essentially.
It really, um, yeah, and thetune is just remapping how the
(16:56):
power's getting, um, you know,delivered, um, so there
shouldn't really be anyreprogramming unless I go, I
think the flat six motorsportstage four tune requires a bit
of reprogramming, and that's whyyou're talking 700 horses plus
and you're kind of intoFrankenstein world a little bit
(17:16):
there and I want to avoid that.
But you ask a really goodquestion.
It's like what am I trying toachieve with this?
Well, the first step wasactually just trying to see if I
could get any more power out ofit.
You know, is is, is it possibleto flip a switch magically for
a little bit of money and getsome more power?
And so, yeah, I've done that.
What I'm trying to do now is canI, can I get the sound quality
(17:40):
out of this car and out of thisturbocharged engine and the
enjoyment of that sound that Igot with my naturally aspirated
991.1?
Um, because the, the porschesports exhaust that I've got on
this 991.2 is actually reallyimpressive.
Um, you know, just just on itsown, and even before I put the
tune on, I was getting lots ofpops and crackles and you know
(18:02):
all of the stuff that the, thenaturally aspirated engines give
you.
I was getting that in sportsmode with this turbocharged
engine.
I just want to see if I candial it up to an 11.
So I've got a full soleperformance exhaust coming.
I've got the headers.
Oh wow, I've got the sportscats and I've got the valve
exhaust coming, and so I'm goingto put those on in stages.
(18:22):
I'm going to start with thevalved exhaust and leave the
rest factory and see what that'slike.
I'm then going to put thesports cats on and see what
that's like and then add theheaders.
So I'm going to sort of put theexhaust on in stages and
compare it against the baseline,and each time I do that I'll
make a video and see.
You know kind of how far I wantto go, because, if I remember
(18:47):
correctly, with my 991.1 I endedup having a full-blown
end-to-end sole exhaust systemsystem and by the time I put the
headers on I really didn'tnotice any difference.
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, I imagine, I imagine the valved exhaust.
Uh, that's a thatler component,I assume.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's where most of the volume will come from.
Yeah, because did Tommy L?
He's done the headers and cats.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think on his T he has yeah, actually, you know
what I could kiss that guy.
Not only has he basicallytested all of this for me and
already made the DIY videos forme to follow and basically
recreate, he's such a nice guy.
He's like been answering all myquestions and he's been very
(19:36):
gracious and offering help andadvice.
Yeah, what a nice guy.
I'm going to be plugging himleft, right and center and I
think I've actually just ordereda couple of t-shirts just just
to show him some love.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, do you know what?
We've both spoken with himabout coming on the show and
he's very graciously agreed.
We're just the worst hosts ever.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Let's do that, let's do that, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow .
So that's that's reallyexciting.
I think the exhaust is a greatmod.
I still think, you know to thisday, one of the best things you
can do to make your car feelexciting is get volume from it.
It makes such a huge difference.
And when I think about, you know, my GT4, when I had it, that
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was a car that had, I think, theright level of power where you
could genuinely lean on the carand push it and not be doing
silly speeds.
But it had this real splitpersonality.
It was nice and quiet when youwere driving it around, but when
you put it in sport mode you'rein the twisties.
It really the exhaust reallyhowled and it it, that, just it.
(20:48):
It brings that motorsportelement.
That's where, as a you know, itkind of taps back to being a
little kid and the idea of ofwhat makes cars exciting and and
you know, porsche out of thefactory when they are building a
Carrera.
The use case for that car is acompromised use case, right?
Even if you take intoconsideration the sports exhaust
(21:13):
, they can only make it so loud.
They've got their customers tothink of, as well as regulations
and the like that they have tobe meeting.
So there's only so far they cango with it.
Um, it's brands like SoulPerformance that will actually
allow you to then extract thatbit of extra excitement out of
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it from a sound perspective.
Right, right yeah totally so.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So, if, if, if sound is like you know, use case
number two, let's say um, the.
The third one is, um, drivingexperience and from what I
understand, um, there are waysto improve, uh, the way the
transmission shifts and retainsthe power from the turbochargers
(21:59):
.
So, um, I've got some tileupgrades.
They're called inlet tube pipes, basically the pipes that
connect the air box to theturbos and then the turbos to
the cats.
They're lighter weights andthey increase the flow, blah,
(22:23):
blah, blah.
So I've got some of thosecoming.
They look like a prettystraightforward kind of bolt on
Um.
And then, from FlatsixMotorsports, I've got some, um,
uh, what are they called?
Uh, turbo diverter valves.
So the factory valves, even inthe GTS models, are plastic, um,
and once you increasehorsepower beyond about 500, um,
(22:44):
you can actually lose some ofthe pressure.
They start to bleed and leak alittle bit.
Um, right, so as you'reshifting through the gears,
you're not actually retainingthe spool and the power.
So by by including, you know,by by putting these pipes in and
also by switching out some ofthese other plug and play kind
of components, um, I'm hopefullygoing to be improving throttle
(23:07):
response and improving that sortof driving experience through
the gears.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
What are you doing and I half know the answer to
this already, but you're talkingabout a lot of things that, in
a straight line perspective,will make for a faster car.
What are you doing so that youcan slow down and get around
corners?
Dude, I live in the midwest Idon't need to worry about that.
I know you don't, but, but, but, but.
(23:31):
Ultimately, this is going to bea, a dragon slayer, right?
That's what you're trying tobuild.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, no, that's true yeah, yeah, so I I've started
looking a little bit into likethe upgraded brake kits and at
some point maybe I'll get thereand you know the various options
that there are for the brakerotors.
In fact, I think my friendChris showed me a link the other
(23:57):
day to some kind of carbonfiber brake discs or carbon
fiber brake rotors.
Have you heard of those?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, Well, yeah, I mean Porsche, obviously do the
PCCBs.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Right, but I'm talking like carbon weave.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean I don't think you needthat.
I mean, who needs anything?
I was going to say I don't needany of these things.
I mean, look, if I'm honest, Iimagine the stock stock brakes,
unless you're on track, willperform just fine.
Yeah, and I've seen how youdrive.
I don't think you're pushingthat fast.
(24:36):
But you know, I know, I knowagain, I hate to, I hate to plug
him again, but I know Tommy haddone a brake upgrade on his um.
I mean, I would think, thinkhonestly, if you just put the S
brakes on, which are a biggerrotor, larger calipers, that
(24:57):
would more than suffice, becausethey're the same brakes that
are on the GTS.
I think.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't think there's a huge amount to be gained
beyond that for a street caryeah, I think you're probably
right and I'm never going to begetting my car out onto the
track because my fat head insidea ginormous uh helmet does not
fit inside my little cabin.
Oh, by the way, I knew therewas something I wanted to tell
you.
I knew there was something Iwanted to get you.
(25:28):
So my birthday the other dayyou posting that photo of my
head, the close-up shot in thevideo.
Oh my God, dude, I mean I'mmassively self-conscious about
the size of my head already.
(25:49):
I'm so sorry, and thescreenshot that you chose was
the one that my head is so closeto the camera.
It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Mate, that's every shot.
That's the entire scene.
Yeah, I know, put it on theother side of your car, then
your head will look small.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, but then my stomach just looks even bigger.
So you know it swings androundabouts do you know what I
like it?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I like the intimacy of it.
I feel like I'm right therewith you.
It's really quite nice screwyou man um so what about
suspension?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
uh, you know what?
I haven't even started thinkingabout that.
To be honest, I, I'm I've gotso much to go to work through
with all of these differentparts that are coming.
Um, you, so that that post youmentioned, uh, about social
media, last night I was, youknow, I was up till two in the
morning and I was looking atvideos and researching tools
(26:44):
that I need and diy jobs, and Ithink I'm I'm almost at the
point of cycling myself out ofthese jobs.
I don't think I can addanything else, anything else to
the list right now, but I, I amsuper excited about all this
stuff.
Um, I, I really kind of it likeI haven't attempted any of these
(27:08):
jobs before, like I haven'tdone any of this.
I mean the exhaust that I'veput on my previous cars I've had
done for me, like PorscheMinneapolis and Eurocharge
Minneapolis.
They've done the work for me.
I thought you did that.
No, I've done exhaust work onmy friend Chris's turbo and his
GT3, and we've done thattogether and, to be fair, I'm
(27:30):
roping him in to help me with alot of this stuff.
So this is going to be I mighteven swear him in as a deputy
auto amateur, you know kind ofauto amateur will no longer be a
company of one, it'll be abrand of two.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, wow.
Well, I'm very excited to seeit all.
I was interested that you choseh&r springs rather than ibarc.
I know, I think h&r tend todrop a little lower than an
ibarc and tend to ride a littlefirmer well, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm just, I'm interested in doing the job and
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I honestly it's not that hard, it's hard, that's one
you can do easily.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, again that's another Tommy Algaric video that
I've watched.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, I know, I didn't want to say it, I've
watched that video approximately50 times.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So now I feel like I could, you know, sort of recite
all of his commentary, you know,on spec.
You know it looks prettystraightforward, but honestly,
if these hadn't been offered tome for a couple hundred dollars,
I don't think I would have, Iprobably wouldn't have bought
them anyway.
So, um, I'm gonna give it a go,if, if they're good, if they're
fun, you know great, if I don'tlike them I'll go back to stock
(28:41):
or try something else.
You know, um, I'm more lookingforward to doing the job
actually and making the videothan anything else but you'll,
you will honestly, your nexttrip to tale of the dragon.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
There there is a benefit, there is a benefit from
a, from a cornering perspectivethat, yeah, maybe, in fact,
which?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
which one of your mates?
Uh, so I, when I went to thetale of the dragon this summer,
I've got a shot of me goingaround a corner, um, taking a
right, so I'm in the outside, um, I can't remember, was it
philby?
I honestly don't remember.
But one of your mates was like,oh, you got your car lowered
and I was like no, no, no,that's yeah yeah, I can't
(29:22):
remember no that.
That's me in the car, weighingit down, going around a corner
at speed yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's just your suspension loaded up in a corner
what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
centrifugal motion and gravity I love those photos.
There's some uh, there's somecracking shots from that, yeah
yeah, I really love that, butyou know that that whole area
has been hit pretty hardrecently with um hurricane helen
, um which yeah, it's been.
It's crazy you know to think, ahurricane that you know forms
(29:57):
over the sea has has turned intoa tropical storm which has come
inland and there's been so muchrainfall in the mountains that
these mountain towns and citieshave been basically washed away.
That's it's.
Yeah, I saw a video of theTopeka Lodge, which is this old,
historic kind of hotel andrestaurant at one end of the
(30:19):
Tale of the Dragon and it's gotthis beautiful whitewater river
that kind of flows past it.
But it's a good, it must be agood 20 feet above the river.
The photo or the video I sawhad the water like level with
the with the patio, and I mean Ihope it didn't get washed away.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
it's just incredible what's gone on there oh, yeah,
these I mean the, you knowthere's.
It's just devastating these,these, these poor people and
communities that are that arehaving to live through this.
You know where I'm watching itfrom, from half a world away,
and where we're just as shockedover here and and, yeah, yeah,
thoughts, thoughts are witheverybody dealing with that,
(31:00):
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And now florida's doing the same, and I know a lot
of um porsche owners and othercar enthusiasts down in florida
oh yeah, wake up and find theirgarages completely underwater.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's just, it's tragic yeah, well, I I was gonna
watch um adam lz, whose videosI've been watching a lot of
lately.
He's got this project 964 thathe bought from japan, a mint
mint green 964 tiptronic, whichhe has just gradually turned
into an absolute monster, andit's now got a 4.1 litre
(31:32):
Rossport engine in it.
The thing is just the mostincredible build.
Yeah, just an incredible car.
But I saw he posted on YouTubethis morning that, where he is
again, he's got this wholecompound.
Looked like it had flooded.
(31:53):
So, yeah, as I say, it'sseemingly hitting incredibly
hard and we can see it from here.
So, yeah, like I say, thinkingof everybody, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Now looking at the other coast, on the west coast,
let's talk about Luftgekult.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah.
So I nearly went this year andas as, yeah, I which of course I
would have I mean, I don't knowwhy you didn't go, but uh, I
was talking about it with kathand she said why don't you go?
You should just go.
And, to be honest, the mainreason I wanted to go was it
(32:31):
felt as though the entire globalporsche community was
descending on luft 10.
And you know people we've had onthe show, like rick from rico
customs, um.
You know mo and kirsten fromfrom flat six, high five.
All of these people that you,you know, you just have these
(32:52):
relationships with via socialmedia and messages and
conversations.
I would have really loved theopportunity to meet them.
And Kath was saying, well, yeah, you should go.
And unfortunately I had a workevent on the Friday night here
in Melbourne which just meant Icouldn't get there in time for
it.
And look, there was a part ofme that thought, well, if I'm
(33:16):
going to go to Los Angeles foranother Luft event, it probably
makes sense for me to do one.
That's not a sequel of one I'vealready done.
So, the only other time I'vebeen to Loof was when it was at
Universal.
So as much as I think that wasan incredible event and from
(33:38):
I've not been to any others, butmy sense of it has always been
that as a location, that was oneof the best, unless you're, at,
deus Ex Machina, back for thefirst one.
So as much as I think thatthere was a part of me that
thought, okay, if I'm going todo something dumb and fly to los
, angeles for a weekend, then Imight as well do that when it's
(34:01):
luft somewhere else versusuniversal, which I've done
before.
But that said, it looks likethere were all of these
additional activations andthings they did this time around
to just elevate it yet again.
It seems to be now anincredibly well-oiled machine.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, yeah, I get the sense of that as well, in fact.
So I heard through thegrapevine that you know, every
year they are just trying to uptheir game constantly Same thing
, but different, same thing butdifferent year on year.
They're actually doing anotherevent this weekend in
Chattanooga, which, if myAmerican geography serves me
(34:43):
correctly, is Tennessee-ish orKentucky, somewhere in the
middle there, somewhere right inthe middle.
But yeah, there's a, a motorcar festival there this weekend,
chattanooga motor car festival,and they're going to be there,
I think, for like two or threedays.
I don't know if it's likeconsidered a pop-up show or what
have you, but yeah, we'reseeing, you know, kind of like I
(35:05):
guess, little, little breakoffsfrom, I guess, little
break-offs from the main annualevents as well pop up now.
And I'm all for it.
The one that I attended inIndianapolis was still the best
show I'd been to to date.
In the six or seven years nowthat I've been attending shows
(35:26):
like this, it was justabsolutely phenomenal.
No other event has come close,actually.
So, wow, if they're going tostart spinning up these you know
little pop-up shows here andthere and everywhere, god,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I agree, and I think you know what they've been
doing in Europe is incredible.
I think the challenge you knowwith all of these things is how
do you maintain a sense ofintimacy and cool underground
vibe whilst just building it tobe able to cope with, now, the
(36:03):
level of consumer, participantdemand?
Because if you look at thecrowds at at universal it, I
mean it looked like it was heavyand you know I even saw um a
few people posting on socialmedia how frustrating it was to
try and get photos withoutpeople in them and all this sort
(36:24):
of stuff.
And look, to be honest, my viewon that, certainly when I went
to Luft, was get over it,because it is a show about cars
and people and you know what theonly choice you've got is to
take photos of cars with peoplearound them, because that's the
experience and you know to seepeople getting frustrated that
(36:48):
someone's in their way becausethey want to have a look at a
917k race car that performed atLe Mans.
I think actually that personhas just as much of of shows our
good friend Darren Pfister atFD Motorsports his Deutsche
(37:14):
Spritz Tour.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I think it's called yeah, I see it's on.
Yeah, so by the time we releasethis it will have happened.
But it's coming up this weekendand I've seen all of the
promotions he's been runningthis week.
He's got some pretty cool merch.
I might hit him up and see if Ican buy a t-shirt from him,
(37:37):
because I kind of want one.
Um, but, uh, yeah, you know, I,I, this, this community just
that we're in, continues to growand evolve and, um, a man,
after doing these tale of thedragon trips with, with jay and
michael and chris, and so onover the last uh of years, I'm
kind of just aching to haveaccess to more of this.
I don't want to live in a world, maybe, where I've had too much
(37:58):
, you know, and everything'sjust completely saturated.
But I'd love to go on that roadtour and I'd love to get on an
Overcrest Productions road tour.
Once a year is not enough.
I've got to do another one,I've got to get out there and I
want to go and see another luftand I didn't make it this year
or last year, but hopefully nextyear.
Um, I, I feel like we're just,we're really lucky.
(38:19):
There's just so much stuffgoing on.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I just want more access oh no, I agree, I agree,
and, and, being where I am, youknow we're, we're, we're miles
from all of it.
And look we, thankfully we have, I think, an incredible Porsche
culture right here in Australia, and I and I, my personal view
is that Victoria, here inMelbourne, is is the best
(38:43):
example of that.
Um, but, globally, there is somuch I want to experience and
for me, to be honest, the bigpull that I feel at the moment
is wanting to.
It's the sort of outreach pull,if you like, all of these
people that I've had contactwith that I consider friends,
(39:07):
having never met them.
You know, you and I have never,never, shook hands, um, and all
of these people like that, who Ijust think I'm just, I just
really want to find a way tocome together with these people
and it's why, as I say, luft 10for me had a real, a real pull
to it, a real draw, because, asyou say, I just want to absorb
(39:29):
more of this entire culture.
The driving component I love,I've always loved, uh, but it's.
But it's also the people, thepeople that are involved, that I
think are something incrediblyspecial about porsche culture,
and I feel a real draw towanting to experience that on a
deeper level than I can viaInstagram messages.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, Well, speaking of travel, my friend, lifelong
awesome, one of my best friends,jodie, who lives in Perth she
is actually on her way to theStates this year.
I'm going to be hanging outwith her in California in
December.
I've been promising to visither now for the best part of the
15 years that I've been livingin the States and she's been
(40:17):
promising to come out here aswell.
But she's been out here.
This will be the third year ina row.
Now she speaks at conferencesin Vegas and you know.
So she comes out and we hangout.
But I've said to her look, allright, okay, next year is
probably going to be the year Icome to Australia this year.
(40:38):
I was maybe going to come toAustralia Last year.
No, there was no chance, butthis year was maybe, next year
probably.
So who knows, dude, maybe I'llget to give you a high five and
say hello to Choco the dog andall that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, dude, if that happens, there has to be a rally
component.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, yeah, totally, I'll have to steal a car or
something, but hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's all right.
There's ways and means.
There's ways and means.
Well, I've got speaking ofrallies.
Alpine range rally 10 is comingup in about five or six weeks.
For me, and having missednumber nine, which was
heartbreaking, to organize arally and then, not go.
(41:21):
Uh, was, was, was a low pointfor me this year.
Um, so I've not done a rallysince november last year, so I'm
so so looking forward to thisone, just cannot wait.
I mean, and I'm in the middleof this is always the exciting
part once I'm designing merch,that's, that's.
That's a thing for me which Ialways just I just gets me so
(41:43):
excited and you know the idea ofI kind of tease it out with
everybody and within the group,and you know there's always a
kind of a reveal moment and yeah, you're just looking for that
moment where everyone's like, oh, this one's really good, this
one's really good.
So hopefully everyone loves themerch.
(42:03):
But I think this rally is goingto be just fantastic.
I just can't wait to be outhaving an adventure again in
Little Green.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So are all of the usual suspects signed up again.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, usual suspects, you know we try and keep it as
sort of small as we can withinthat existing group and you know
it's so hard.
I get a lot of messages frompeople who want to come and, you
know, like good dudes who Iknow and would love to have
along, and we've just, it's justdifficult to maintain a group
(42:37):
size that is realistic to takeon a drive like this.
So I've always said I don'twant to have any more than 20
cars.
I think that's about.
It's certainly about as much aswe can manage in terms of the
basics of booking accommodation,booking food, all of those
types of things.
You know there's a lot ofmoving parts, but even just to
(43:00):
safely keep everybody togetherand safely, you know, get
everybody covering some 2,000kilometres over four days, I
just want to.
It's yeah, we unfortunatelyhave to keep it somewhat
confined.
So, yeah, the usual crew, butwe're doing it a little
differently this time.
We're adding a day and drivinginto some areas that we've never
(43:25):
been to before.
So I can't wait for that as well, exploring some new roads.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Exciting, exciting, I'm jealous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, before,so so I can't wait for that as
well.
Exploring some new roadsexciting, exciting, I'm jealous
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and soyou did.
Uh, we've not spoken since youdid your tale of the dragon trip
yeah, tale of the dragon wasawesome, but, um, yeah, there
was a bit of a shadow cast overthe whole weekend because, uh,
everybody had some kind of carissue.
(43:50):
It was.
Yeah, it was pretty weird.
So Jay got sideswiped before weeven got there, somebody drove
into the back of him on aroundabout, but he still.
He showed up, he drove up andthere he was, spent the whole
(44:10):
weekend driving with the side ofhis car smashed in.
But on day two his ignitionwouldn't turn over and so we
managed to kind of fiddle it andwe managed to get it to start,
but then later on in the day itjust went dead.
So day three he basically rodeshotgun in a bunch of different
(44:33):
cars, um, so that he could enjoythe weekend, and then he stayed
behind an extra day to get hiscar fixed, um at a local shop
when they opened up on themonday, while you know the rest
of us, yeah, so so that was jake, um, mark and his son matthew.
His ECU and air conditioningwent on the blink the week
(44:54):
before the trip.
So they they hired a Caymanfrom Turo and so they didn't
miss the weekend, um, and theydiscovered halfway through the
weekend that the wheels were puton um backwards.
Yeah, the wheels had been puton the wrong way, basically, so
(45:16):
they tied, they decided to sortof, you know, pull off the gas
and just take it easy and theycouldn't be bothered swapping
them around.
But yeah, whoever basicallyrotated the tires had put them
on the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I know right.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
So that was their issue.
I think what was Michael'sissue?
Michael's starter motor went.
As he got home, me and Chrisboth got flat tires.
We got nails in the same partof the tire and my wheel bearing
went as well.
It sounded like my PDdktransmission was going, actually
(45:52):
, and I there was this hummingkind of drone sound in the cabin
.
So I had that issue.
And then todd, who was drivinghis uh convertible 993 um one of
his belts snapped and he got aflat tire just as he was getting
back into min.
So everybody's car was fuckedat some point during the weekend
.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
So yeah, we're hoping you know next time we go back,
everything will be fine.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
But you know maybe Was the driving good anyway.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Because this was your first time there in the 991.2,.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Right, yeah, it was absolutely awesome and I brought
my son Luke with me.
Who's seven oh?
That's right, he really enjoyedit, absolutely loved it.
In fact in one of the gas helikes owls and in one of the gas
stations we saw this giantstuffed owl which he bought.
And in the oh that was in thepassenger seat it was in the
(46:50):
passenger seat the whole time,but in one of the photos that
was taken by Dragonslayer orKillboy or what have you,
there's this great shot of mycar and all you can see is this
owl's head in the passenger seat.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's a right-hand drive 911 piece.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
So that was a really great weekend and the car
handled really well and you know, I think in part that probably
spurred me on to do some of themods as well, because I really I
took advantage of PASM for thefirst time.
This is the first car I've hadPASM and I was driving the whole
time with that on and reallyenjoyed, you know, and noticed
(47:29):
the difference that with that on, and really enjoyed, you know,
and noticed the difference thatthat it made on the suspension
and go around the corners, yeah.
So yeah, get it on, get it on.
We were thinking about doinglike a full color trip in two
weeks time but with thehurricane and so on, we've kind
of knocked that on the head sothis kind of leads me and I know
I'm working up the list on ourshow notes in reverse somewhat.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I did read in your t911 column you talked about the
one thing it did, it did sortof bring to light from your
perspective was the manualversus pdk thing and that that
you still think you find ahigher level of engagement in
the manual transmission yeah, Ithink, I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Um, I you know, having been on the tail now with
a couple of pdks and a coupleof manuals, I think the manual
is the way to go ultimately.
And there's going around thosecorners and just picking exactly
the moment when you want tochange gear and knowing exactly
(48:32):
the rev range you want to be in.
Yeah, it's more precise.
I guess that's the way I woulddescribe it.
There's more precision.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Are you shifting in PDK or are you letting the car?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
No, I am shifting in PDK.
I've got it in manual mode, um,but there's, there's just
something about that momentwhere you make the decision to
put the clutch in and you movethe shifter where your heart's
in your mouth a little bit andthe you know the the the clutch
goes back and everythingre-engages.
(49:07):
Um, I think, just if I had totake on a road like that and I
was given the choice between amanual and an automatic, I'd
pick the manual for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Would you if the car was a different car, let's say
it was a turbo or it was a GT3,would you feel differently, do
you think?
I mean, I know a turbo doesn'tcome in a manual anyway, so it's
a moot point but I suppose mypoint being do you think your
interest or preference for amanual is driven somewhat by the
(49:41):
car being, let's say, a lowerpowered, you know kind of base
model where you can lean on itreally hard regardless?
Or or do you think you'd feelthat way across across the board
?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
um, yeah, that that probably has something to do
with it.
Actually, yeah, you know theidea of having to work harder to
get more out of the car, um,and really make it perform, yeah
, but then, at the same time,just thinking about the base
nine nine one dot one and thebase nine nine one dot two, yeah
, there is a power difference,um, but it's you know, it's not
(50:15):
a hundred horses, it's not thedifference between a base and
the turbo or a base and the GTthree no that's right.
You still have to work out ofthe car.
Um, it's funny looking at chrisin my rearview mirror where I'm
pulling away from him and then,all you know, a split second
(50:35):
later, there he is.
He's got, he's just right there.
Um, it might, it might bedifferent now, actually, when I
take it back and I've, I've gotall this extra power and you
know, with the, with the tune,um, yeah, I wonder what that's
going to be like.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I think a lot of that .
It just depends on the roadtype you know, in terms of.
I know, when I had the GT4, forexample, there are certain
roads where, if I wanted to, Icould just pull a gap on the
person behind me, dependent uponif that was typically something
(51:08):
where it was perhaps a higherspeed road, perhaps it was up a
hill, and then you have a torqueadvantage and things like that.
But you know, through thetighter twisties I didn't that
car or people we've driven withwith GT3s, anything like that
there's still.
I think ultimately it comesdown to cornering speed more
than it does power and awell-set-up car and someone who
(51:31):
knows how to drive it will keepup with most things.
But I think it's an interestingpoint about the manual, you know
, and talking about the decisionto put the clutch in, because I
think one of the things I'vefound with my manual cars
certainly versus my PDK car is,you know, there are some roads
where you'll take a second gearcorner and then there's a
(51:52):
straight and another second gearcorner and you kind of have
this decision to make of do Iring the car's neck for three
seconds and keep it in secondcoming into that next corner?
Or do I shift up and then shiftdown?
And you know, so often, I think, in a manual car I just ring
(52:12):
the car's neck and maybe that'snot the fastest way to do it,
but you know it's.
It's feels like a motorsportexperience, versus if you're in
a pdk, there's no um, there's nocost to shifting up, because
it's just you just grab thepaddle and you're up a gear and
it's okay, you're still in thepower band and then you can, you
(52:34):
know, a moment later shift downagain.
So I think I think again,there's something about the
manual that makes you make thesedecisions a little.
I suppose the decision-makingprocess requires a little more
thought than it does in a, in a,in a PDK, because the
compromises aren't there andthat, I think, helps I don't
(52:56):
know, just helps me get a littlemore out of the experience.
I don't have a view either way.
I'm not one of these people whothinks that you know, it's
manual or nothing, it's threepedals or nothing.
I'm not of that view at all andI really enjoy driving a PDK car
.
I think ultimately mypreference for road driving in
(53:17):
the twisties, for a spiriteddrive would would almost always
be a manual.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, I think this is why all Porsche enthusiasts
need three or four cars in theirgarage.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
You know, yeah, yeah, it's a hundred percent fair To
choose from.
Yeah, porsche enthusiasts needthree or four cars in their
garage.
You know, yeah, yeah, it's 100%fair to choose from.
Yeah, you know.
No, I agree, I agree.
Now, going as I said, we'regoing up the list.
This I did mention that I'dread your column in Total 9-11,
which which mentioned your Taleof the Dragon Drive and
mentioned your preference formanual and PDK.
(53:49):
Can we take a minute to talkabout Total 9-11?
Speaker 1 (53:52):
We've got to yeah, we absolutely have to, and not
only Total 9-11, but Mr LeeSibley, we've got to talk about
him as well.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, yeah.
So, for those of you who don'tknow, total 9-11 is folding.
The magazine is finishing up.
All of us who write a columnfor it the living, the legend
column, uh were notified, Iguess a couple months back,
right, um, and you know it's,it's.
It's unfortunately one of thesethings where, like so many
(54:23):
magazines, they, they, they'repropped up by advertising spend
and you know the, theadvertisers just aren't there to
warrant the magazine continuingto be printed.
So it's coming to an end, whichis a real shame.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, in fact, issue 249 is on the shelves right now.
My dad, in fact, just emailedme this week saying he got his
in the mail and this was thefirst he'd heard about it.
He got an email this weeksaying your subscription's over.
So if you rush out and get thevery last ever edition of Total
(54:59):
9-11, you can show that to yourgrandkids one day.
But it's really sad, God, Icould talk about it for ages.
But you know, long story short,total nine 11 is the reason I
bought my first Porsche.
You know I've I've always lovedPorsche and I've talked about
(55:21):
it across.
You know so many differentforums and platforms since I was
a kid.
But you know, in my mid or mylate thirties, um, since I was a
kid, but in my mid or my late30s, in a position where I was
able to buy a car, because I wasno longer in a city like New
York City or London where youdidn't need a car.
Oh look, there's a Porschemagazine on the shelf.
(55:42):
I'll buy it.
It was an edition that was abuyer's guide.
I spent the best part of amonth reading every page.
Read that thing cover to cover,learning about every single
generation and the price rangesand all the stats on every model
, and it opened my eyes to thefact that, well, actually there
(56:03):
is a Porsche out there in myprice range that I've come to
adore over the years.
That might actually be a carthat I can buy.
And a month later I'm out therein LA picking it up and I
subscribed to it and I followedand I got to know Lee through
the magazine and he invited meto blah, blah, blah.
(56:27):
I've been writing a column for acouple of years now, as of you,
um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't bedriving the cars I'm driving
today if it wasn't for total9-11 magazine and, um, oh man,
I'm gonna miss it, I'm gonnaabsolutely miss it.
But you know what I, what I dolike and love, is that lee isn't
going anywhere and lee is theheart and soul of that magazine.
(56:48):
Um, you know, he uh, it's afascinating story about how he
got started there, um, becausehe wasn't the editor in the
beginning and he's become theeditor at large and, um, he's
been, you know, running thatthat show for for a good number
of years.
Um, but he's got his.
He's got his own life and hisown brand and his own Porsche
(57:09):
experience and dream, which isnine works outside of total nine
11.
And hopefully that's going tolive and continue, which which
we all know it is Um.
So you know, if you don'tfollow nine works, follow nine
works.
Nine works radio.
Nine works road trips NineWorks Road Trips NineWorkscom.
(57:29):
Nineworksleon.
Instagram.
You know all of the fantasticcontent and knowledge and
excitement that has been comingthrough Total 9-11 Magazine.
It's not going anywhere becauseit's there in Nine Works.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
I think you know what I'vealways appreciated about the
magazine is I like that in thePorsche space there, different
magazines actually filldifferent needs.
Yeah, so for me.
So here in Australia, duck andWhale is probably the most
prevalent Porsche magazine.
Duck and Whale is, you know,produced by an organization that
(58:13):
is really design-focused,really photography-focused.
So I always find in Duck andWhale that that's a magazine I
will look through for the visualexperience.
I think the photography and thelayout, the art direction, is
absolutely stunning and thelayout, the art direction, is
absolutely stunning.
What I really loved about Total9-11 is I think the journalistic
(58:34):
approach in that magazine wasabsolutely top shelf and they
knew their stuff did reallyinteresting articles, really
interesting comparison articles,breaking down one car versus
another, whether that was acrossgenerations or within
generations, but very wellconsidered, very well researched
and in such a way that I thinkthere was something really that
(58:56):
you could gain from them.
I think you know the sad thingif I can pontificate for a
moment about the slow decline ofmagazines, I think I've always
loved magazines since I was akid, and I think the role that
magazines filled in our life wasone where, if you have a
(59:18):
specific interest let's say yourniche interest is Porsche your
access to content around Porscheis limited, or traditionally it
always has been and a magazinewas the one thing that every
month you would hold out waitingfor, so that if you went to the
newsagent or if you had asubscription and it arrived, you
(59:39):
would then have a month toabsorb that content.
And every magazine that I had Iused to flip through it a
million times, read articlesover and over again,
particularly if it was anarticle about a car that I was
specifically interested infilled in a far more prolific
way with social media, withYouTube, where you can pick up
(01:00:01):
your phone any day of the weekand see plenty of amazing
content on Instagram or watch anincredible video on YouTube.
That gives you that fix.
So when the magazine arrives,the desperate need that you once
(01:00:26):
had to just scour it cover tocover, that has dissipated over
time and that's why we've seen Ithink just you know across the
board that magazines influenceand prevalence in news agents
and the like has just diminishedso, so much.
But you know like you say.
(01:00:47):
Congratulations to Lee and theentire team there at Total 9-11
for such a great mag.
It's certainly been a thrill forme being able to have a printed
column.
I mean, you know, I kind ofhassled Lee to let me write
something for him.
You know, I've always wanted tobe a writer in print and the
(01:01:09):
fact that he, you know, probablyjust thought, oh yeah, it'd be
good to have a dude fromaustralia that was uh that.
That that felt, uh, that feltlike a blessing for me.
So I'm certainly gonna miss,miss writing my monthly column,
but but, like james said, if youcan get a get a hold of the
last issue, then then I'd sayit's well worth doing.
And, and I'm sure everyone hereis already already following,
(01:01:33):
uh, lee and nine works.
God knows, we promote themenough on this pod, um, so look,
shall we jump to video of theweek?
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
yes, and you know what I've watched video of the
week can.
Can you believe it?
Have you actually?
Well, yeah, I mean you sent methe link 10 minutes before the
pod and I had nothing better todo.
I was about to say which one?
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Because I had suggested one.
I had suggested actually one ofAdam LZ's.
This has just been an entirepot of promoting other people's
YouTube channels, but I hadsuggested one of Adam's videos.
But then this morning I thoughtactually no, I want to, I want
to talk about this one.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Is it because?
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
it's a 964 and you have a 964?
.
I must confess, I'm quiteconscious of the fact that
there's a video of the week doesoften feature an air-cooled car
, but did we ever?
I you know I needed to ask youthis question.
Do you remember that video ofthe yellow GT3 Touring that I
think was going to be video ofthe week?
Last time we recorded, but Idon't think we ever did that pod
(01:02:37):
.
Was it the one that?
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I chose no Because there have been a number of
videos of the week that I'vesuggested that I've never seen
the light of day.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
What three Come on what?
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
have you ever suggested?
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
No, remember that amazing yellow GT3?
It's like yes, you do, it's inLA.
I sent it to you a couple ofmonths ago.
Anyway, do you know what?
If we haven't featured it onthe pod next time we record, in
six months, we'll make thatvideo of the week.
It's like a bahama yellow 991.2gt3 touring dude, you've.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
You've not only lost me, you've lost the audience.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Let's talk about the actual video of the week let's
talk about the actual video ofthe week, which is a 964rs.
It's on the furka pass, it's a.
It's a film Night Run Films,who are doing some really lovely
stuff.
Actually, if I'm honest,there's maybe a little bit too
much of a penchant for drivinggloves, but I'll let that slide.
Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
I've got to say I know one or two people that wear
driving gloves and I just comeon, I can't do it, I can't.
I just come on, I can't do it,I can't.
I just seriously Driving glovesIf you're wearing driving
gloves.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
stop now, because it is the equivalent of the guys
who go road cycling and then getoff their bikes at the cafe and
come, click, click, click,clicking on their stupid cycling
shoes into the cafe.
They think it's cool.
Everyone around them justthinks they're the biggest dorks
ever.
Here's the thing If you aredriving a short wheelbase 911
(01:04:20):
with a wooden steering wheel,wear yourself some driving
gloves.
I'm all about that.
But if you've got awater-cooled car, if you're
driving a car with an Alcantarasteering wheel or leather, just
no no to the driving gloves.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Stop Burn the driving gloves, burn them.
Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Exactly.
Anyway, let's talk about thisfilm because actually, if I'm
honest, one of the first thingsI noticed.
So the film is actually calledPorsche 964 RS no emotional
coffee runs and the first thingI thought when I saw that was oh
, it seemed a bit of a snarkydig at cars, with Luke who often
(01:05:03):
does a coffee run where he getsa bit emotional.
It felt to me like it wasactually ooh okay.
As a fellow YouTuber.
That seemed like I say, alittle bit snarky, but it's
actually the driver of the carwho says it, this guy Laz, who
says it pretty early on in thefilm.
He says I don't use it for, Idon't drive it in the city or
(01:05:25):
use it for emotional coffee runs, it's just for in the hills.
So, okay, there was somecontext for that.
It wasn't a dig at anotherYouTuber.
Look, if I'm honest, one of thereasons and this may sound a
bit goofy, but one of thereasons I'm not producing as
much content is that I find thelocations here I want to try and
(01:05:49):
make beautiful content, yeah,and I find the locations of
where I drive pretty bland bycomparison.
I'm not going to talk about theindustrial estates where you
film, but you know anyone who'smaking these videos in
Switzerland at the Furka Passand the Susten Pass and all
(01:06:10):
these amazing places it's.
I mean, come on, talk aboutunfair advantage much.
I know right it's just so to seea 964RS driving these
incredible roads, the Furka Pass, with that amazing hotel on the
hairpin that everyone takes aphoto of.
And do you know?
What I love is something thatLaz said.
(01:06:32):
He talks about having a 992 GT3and how much he loved that car
but how he couldn't reallyexperience it because to drive
it at anywhere near the level heneeded to drive it to feel like
he was leaning on it, pushingit.
You know he's going to end upin jail and you know the 964 is
(01:06:55):
a nice antidote to that.
So I know I'm a 964 maven, butseeing a 964 in this environment
with this sort ofcinematography, I think it's
pretty special.
Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
So let me just interject an alternative theory
um so laz got himself the gt3touring 992 and um didn't
appreciate the fact that hewasn't able to afford his
monthly payments because of hiswife's expensive coffee
(01:07:30):
addiction.
So he had to give it back andtrade it in for the air-cooled
964.
And now he's out driving byhimself because the wife doesn't
want to be seen in a30-year-old car going to
Starbucks to get afrappa-chappa-floppa-lappuccino
with half-whip no-w, no whop,whip, whip phoned up.
(01:07:52):
That's the real answer, andy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Where the fuck did that come from?
Because also, you know it's a964RS right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Yeah, I know it is.
Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I mean in terms of dollars.
I know it's a 964RS, right?
Yeah, I know it is.
I mean in terms of dollars, Iknow it is.
That'd probably sell for morethan a 992 GT3 Touring, I know
it is.
Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
The film is absolutely spectacular.
I love the film.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
I love the film.
James, you and me will talk offair.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I'm getting phone calls from our sponsors.
Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I think we've lost a couple of our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Our driving glove sponsors have just pulled the
pin oh well, look on thatbombshell.
I think we're done for anotherpod and it's not going to be
another three months until werecord next time.
You better not cancel on menext week, andy gauntz, don't,
don't even yeah, don't even justI.
Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I really want to make this clear to our listeners.
The amount of times.
Do you know what?
This morning is the first timeI haven't done show notes
because, quite honestly, Ithought I'm gonna do this.
And then, five minutes beforewe're supposed to start, I'm
gonna get a text message sayingthat opens with the words ah,
fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
We'll see.
We'll see.
Well, look everybody.
Thanks for tuning in and we'llcatch you in another pod soon.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Thanks gang, See you soon.
Take care.
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