James and Andy are back again for more Porsche banter! Have you ever found yourself reminiscing about the cars you used to own and wondering if you should buy them back? This week, our Porsche passion is reignited as we discuss the new Porsche Crest design, share stories about our favorite past cars, and even touch on the tale of a kangaroo colliding with a Porsche. We also congratulate a few friends on their new cars and explore the possibility of a carbon fiber hood for 'Bluey.'
Join us in our lively conversation about the design details of the new Porsche crest, including the differences between the black and white and color versions, as well as the texture of the antlers and Porsche text. We then dive into our relationships with former cars, the idea of taking them back, and how our lives and circumstances change over time. Don't miss our personal encounters with the Porsche 996 C4S and the iconic first-generation 991 GT3.
Lastly, we discuss the challenges of making tough decisions like selling a beloved car and weigh the cost of starting the process all over again against the appeal of air-cooled cars. We also share the heartwarming story of a Porsche enthusiast living in Ukraine, and how James' family is sponsoring him and his family to come to the US to escape the war zone. Tune in for an exciting episode filled with Porsche passion, heartfelt stories, and a surprising superhero connection with Condor Man.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good evening, James McGarar.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, if it isn't the Australian Elvis, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Do you know what?
I'm going to take that as acompliment?
You should, and it's theBritish tinting, although I
think tinting was always British, right?
Yeah, maybe, i don't know, ithink you are.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think you're a Brit Dude.
can I just tell you It's earlyagain.
What's going on?
And this morning is earlierthan early.
My kid's been awake all night.
I hate you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So my question to you is get again.
This was your idea, and howmuch do you think our wonderful
listeners want to hear the startof every podcast?
You pissing and moaning abouthow early it is, because do you
know what they expect?
What they expect is highquality journalism done to the
(00:59):
highest order and expertisearound our key subject being
Porsche.
I mean, that's what they tunein for.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
All right, mate, look , let's just at least make this
promise to our listeners.
That's what they're going toget from you this morning.
For me, it's going to be anabsolute mess.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Welcome to Kerbin Canyon.
So, do you know, i used toscript those intros and James
(01:40):
would never, never do what wason the script.
So now we don't.
There always seems to be anatural moment where it's like
yeah, there it is, there's thewelcome.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, And you know, just like the videos of the week
, you assume that I read those.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, you look at you .
You've become such an American.
It just for those of youlistening.
I can't see James right now.
We use FaceTime to communicateduring these sessions And his
entire face is.
I don't know what that is.
It's covered by the largestthermos coffee cup, and is that
(02:21):
just full of what?
Just filter rubbish?
Is that what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, we call it Minnesota Brown.
It's just that, oh man, it's.
You know, whatever you get offthe shelf in the filter, slap it
in, put the water through it,it's practically useless.
But you see, here's the thingNext to my awful, terrible
American Mr Coffee machineSpaceball fans reference we call
(02:50):
it Mr Coffee Next to that I'vegot my beautiful Nespresso
machine which makes just epic,gorgeous, lovely espressos.
But you see, if I put that onright now, yeah, you're going to
laugh at that, because that isalso not as good enough coffee
for you.
Hey look, if it's good enoughfor George Clooney's sunshine,
(03:11):
it's good enough for me.
But if I play, if I, if I madeone of those right now, the
whole house would be awakebecause the fucker is loud, yeah
they are, they are, yeah, yeah,i hear you.
I hear you Anyway, which, whichlittle Colombian boys grew the
beans and and roasted them onthe backyard grill?
(03:33):
that made your.
That made your coffee thismorning.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Your your expertise when it comes to coffee is
surpassed only by your expertisewhen it comes to talking about
porches.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
All right, come on What we got this week.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, heaps Lots to talk about.
We're going to talk.
We've got some morecongratulations We're going to
talk about.
I'm a bit of a design, tragic,so we're going to talk about the
Porsche crest.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
We're going to talk about, should you ever?
it's going to be exciting.
I knew that one was going toitch your crack.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I knew it right.
It always has, Absolutely.
Of course it was going to.
Oh, my goodness, we're going totalk about buying back old cars
.
Got some updates on a few cars,some pretty significant updates
actually, some some devastatingupdates Some well, no.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You crashed, little green into a kangaroo over a
wallaby and onto the set of thelast episode of Neighbours.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's weird.
It's like you think I'mAustralian.
Well, french, apparently.
So my buddy Simon posted aphoto.
You know how, on your, on youriPhone, it'll just bring up
photos like a memory from 10years ago or whatever.
Today he posted one one suchmemory and it was his wide body
(04:57):
three to career that he used toown.
They're like a factory, widebody, beautiful car, and he'd
had it for not very long at alland he hit a kangaroo and you
should have seen how damaged thefront of the car was.
I'm sure the kangaroo wasreasonably damaged too, but, yes
, pretty devastating photoactually.
Bad for him, bad for the room.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Please tell me, please, please tell me.
We can use that as the coverfor this week's episode.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I will check.
I will check with my good palSimon and get back to you,
because who knows?
there might still be a courtcase pending or something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, those kangaroos like to sue.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh they do.
You know, they're just classaction.
They're really big on it,really big on it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Feisty little boogers .
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, hey, and also video of the week today is it's
it's a, it's one out of thearchives, right, It's a fun one,
It is Oh yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Do this one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Your level of preparation is something else.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Dude again.
It's like six in the morningyesterday here.
Yeah, no, no, no, it is.
It's absolutely precious.
I can't wait to talk about thisone.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, hey.
So I want to start.
I've been talking about friendsacquiring new cars, So finally,
last weekend we went for adrive on Sunday morning in the
hills and Rocco not to beconfused with Choco or Blocko I
had to get in before you.
You beat me to it, of course.
(06:30):
I did You predictable now.
Next, you're going to accuse meof being French when I say
kilometers an hour Rocco showedup in his amazing new Carmine
Red 718 Cayman GTS 4.0.
That's quite the longnomenclature, isn't it?
Oh, dude, this car.
You know there are some carsthat just stick the landing in
(06:55):
every regard.
You see it, and you just gouh-huh, uh-huh, yeah.
Yeah, there it is There, it isThere, it is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now, you see, for that car I think the color is
maybe the least important partof the formula that you just
explained there for us.
Explain My friend, michael, hasthe exact same car, but in the
Genshin Blue.
Oh, you pronounce that?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
blue.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
When he turned up last summer to one of our drives
, I literally couldn't take myeyes off that car.
The parking lot was filled withair cooled and water cooled
mostly 911s.
One poor SOB in a Cayenne.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You went in your Cayenne.
You're such a dork.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But his Genshin Blue GTS, blah, blah, blah,
absolutely just gorgeous car.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's funny because Rocco won't mind me saying
actually he probably will, buthe can't stop me.
He's quite old and he finds ita little bit difficult to get
out of bed in the morning.
He's all creaky and stuff likethat.
He doesn't always meet us atthe very start of the day.
We met him at the top of one ofthe best roads that we do and
(08:14):
we'd all stopped there to have abit of a break and stretch the
legs and water some plants Andyeah, then suddenly you could
hear this car.
You could hear it coming.
Yeah, dude.
And then he used to come aroundthe corner.
It was like John Bon Jovibursting onto the stage.
Everyone just went nuts.
It was a very, very cool moment.
(08:37):
So, yeah, pretty happy.
That's to you, rocco BlocoChoco.
I nearly wore my uncle Roccosweatshirt tonight in honor of
the great man.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So, come on, let's talk about.
This is going to be therapy foryou.
Let's talk about the newPorsche Crest design, because
before we even get into it, letme just say I couldn't care less
.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, so I want to know what.
So which is not an unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It basically looks the same to me.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I know, i know, and it's funny because I wrote all
this stuff down and I waswriting it, i wrote bullet
points for it and I thought thisis going to be entirely up to
me to deliver this.
It's not like James is going tostep in and help out, so can I
ask why?
Why is this not of interest toyou?
(09:32):
Well, all right, is it justbecause I suggested it?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Naturally, my default position to yours is always
contrary.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know if it was a great, a huge departure from the
logo, from the sort of the.
Imagine the outcry though Allthe design basics.
You know it's still the sameshape, they still use the same
colors.
It's still obviously thePorsche brand.
You know, i think there arelots of brands and now please
(10:09):
don't ask me to name any of them, but there are lots of brands
whose, like designers, hasevolved over the decades, but
they still, in your mind, lookexactly the same Like.
Maybe it's the McDonald'sArches, or maybe it's the
Coca-Cola logo There's.
They've always been presentedslightly differently To me.
I know that there are a fewdifferent.
(10:29):
You know there are a few biggerdifferences with this one in
particular.
But you know, you look at it,it's the Porsche logo.
It still is.
It's still the Porsche crest.
A few little fiddly bits havebeen fiddled with, but you know
who's against a bit of fiddling.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I saw that coming a mile away.
Well, so here's the thing,right.
So why don't we get excitedabout the 911?
Because that's just evolution,not revolution.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, all right, fair enough, but the crest is
something.
I mean there's a really crassyou know comparisons to make
here, but the crest is.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I can't actually think of what that is.
I'm like this is the mostReally So far.
it's the most intelligentconversation you and I have ever
had.
And you're thinking about crassthings.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
you could say Oh, i'm going to bring it down.
So the crest is window dressing.
Okay, the 911, you get insideit, you pull it apart, you get
an absolute thrill of your life.
I mean, it's like thedifference between looking at
(11:40):
the bottle of Coca-Cola anddrinking Coca-Cola for the first
time, because for many, everytime you get inside a slightly
different 911, it's a new 911.
But it's something completelynew.
So to me it's like looking atit versus experiencing it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, do you know what I don't disagree And,
bizarrely enough, you're rightthough so many brands do this.
They evolve their logo Andactually in the automotive space
it is particularly common Andin fact, when you look at the
Porsche crest, it has actuallyseen design tweaks in 1954, 1963
(12:20):
, 1973, my birth year 1994 and2008.
So it's actually it has evolvedover time.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I didn't know that.
See, there you go.
I didn't know that.
I thought, wow, they've finallydone it After all these years
they've changed it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So, look, I mean I think, well, let's not lay with
the point, because I suspectthat, given you know we're a
50-50 split in terms of ourinterest on this, our audience
is probably a little bit thesame.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Tell us what's changed Like.
I'm actually very interested tounderstand what's changed.
Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think it's one of those things where you would
look at it and think, huh, thatdoes look different.
There's something, but Icouldn't put my finger on.
I'll tell you what has changed.
The texture behind the antlersand the Porsche text.
There was a sort of a I don'tknow what.
You'd call it, a mottledtexture, if you like.
That's gone.
The Porsche text itself appearsto be smoother.
(13:21):
They have introduced ahoneycomb pattern into the red
stripes.
The horse itself is a differenthorse Okay, that's weird, and
it's funny thing, you know youalways think about the prancing
horse, the Ferrari.
you know you sometimes forgetthat the horse, which is the, i
think, the insignia forStuttgart, is my understanding.
(13:44):
Yeah, there's a prancing horsein the Porsche logo And then the
Stuttgart text, which used tosimply be embossed, is now black
.
But yeah, if you saw it, yousee it on the front of a new car
which apparently they're goingto start rolling them out back
end of this year.
I don't think it's going tohave any sort of wholesale
(14:06):
effect on the overall look atthe car, but hey, it's
interesting in the Porsche spaceand, as a design, tragic.
I must confess that I did spend, let's say, more time than was
absolutely necessary readingabout it and looking at it and
comparing the logos through thegenerations and found it to be
quite interesting.
(14:26):
You're looking now I can tell,because you've tuned out for me.
No, no, no, what are youtalking about?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So I'm now going down the rabbit hole with you and
I'm looking at the sixapparently six different
versions here on Porschecom, onthe news, on the news, the news
page.
Yeah, it is actually quitesignificant from one to the
other.
I will you know it is and itisn't, But I'm not a big fan of
(14:56):
the honeycomb.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm not a fan of the honeycomb.
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, no, i mean like it's okay, I don't need to throw
that under the bus because I'llruin it for everyone, but I
don't really like that one.
But I do like the fact thatthey've taken away the sort of
you know, the polka dot modelbackground behind the analyst.
That's fair.
Let me ask you this, though Forall of the dweebs out there,
(15:23):
myself included, that areactually quite interested in
going to buy one of those andsee if it'll fit on the front of
their Porsche, what do youthink Is that?
is that the type of thing thatwell, even if it fits, let's say
it.
Let's say it fits.
Yeah, could you be forgiven forputting that on the hood of
little green?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Look, i think he could.
I personally would not Because,if I'm honest, at the end of
the day I don't love it.
I actually prefer the previousiteration.
I actually like the texture.
It doesn't look very today.
It does hark back somewhat, butI actually really like the
(16:05):
texture of the previous.
well, every other versionbasically No, i would.
I personally would not put iton little green.
I have no problem with somebodywho does.
I just wouldn't talk to themand couldn't be friends with
them.
But no, that's totally unfair.
I would absolutely talk to themand be friendly to them and
(16:28):
then say a lot of things whenthey left.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So it's funny, this has happened, because actually I
need a new emblem on the frontof my Cayenne, because the
Cayenne came with the black andwhite version as opposed to the
color.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I was going to ask you what's your view on the
black and silver.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So I actually think it looks pretty good on the
right car, but on my Cayenne itdoesn't look good.
It kind of looks like it's beensun-faded as opposed to.
it's an intentional choice fromthe factory And that's what I
thought it was originally.
But the more I've looked at itit's quite clearly it's never
had any color.
It's always been the black andthe silver.
(17:13):
So I want to replace it with acolorful one, but I'll probably
stick with the one that's trueto the model, as opposed to
getting a new one.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, i feel that's.
oh, do you know what?
Why don't you go?
the sticker light white.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's funny.
You should mention that,honestly, dude.
It's funny.
You should mention that becauseI've been looking at a carbon
fiber hood for bluey.
Oh no, no, no, for real.
A carbon fiber hood for blueyAnd the manufacturer of it, who
designs, custom designs bodyparts for race cars.
(17:48):
It won't come with an emblem,or at least it won't come with
the divot for the emblem.
So if I am going to get itwhich I probably won't, but if I
do, i'm going to go for thesticker.
Yeah, gt2 RS baby.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yep, so I'm not going to ask you.
I don't want to blow up yourspot, so I'm not going to ask
you what a carbon fiber bonnetcosts Hood, whatever What a
carbon fiber hood costs Actually.
(18:24):
Now, what does a carbon fiberhood cost?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, i think if you got it from Porsche it cost you
about four grand, but from thisparticular supplier it's about
1500.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Right About the price of some lowering springs.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
God damn it Come on dude, I'm the only thing that is
needed to lower my car.
They're a no need.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I saw you posted some really nice photos of bluey
this week and the car looks sogood with the whole number front
number plate thing going alicense plate as you guys call
them.
But we've just we've got totalk about the stance.
This has to be fixed.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
All right then, Mr Design Guru.
So how can somebody so finickyand aintly retentive when it
comes to.
That's correct.
It's a technical term.
Look it up.
Okay, So right now, my circularwheels are perfectly flush with
the curvature of the wheelarches.
(19:26):
It's a circle in a circle.
It fits perfectly.
You start lowering them and itruins it.
Oh my God, It just ruins thelook.
Does it Like to explain that tome, Mr Design Guy?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's not just about the matching of the curvature of
the wheel to the curvature ofthe guard.
That, no, it's about race car.
It's about stance.
It's about the car lookingaggressive, not apologetic.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It looks aggressive when I'm in it with my middle
fingers up, being like go out ofthe way, Karen.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Poor Karen, all right , well, i can say I'm not going
to convince you on that, andthat just makes me a little bit
sad.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I had this conversation with Drew over at
the Cool Collective and heshamed me for a long time about
trying to argue this, because Ithink he's even shamed people by
putting stickers on their carswhen they're too high.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, because he had that hoodie.
no more wheel gap, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, that's right.
There are some cars that looklike that, but that is just one
step away from being the HondaCivic driver with the wheels
that are angled in and out.
I mean, it's pretty close toyou know, chaff Central dude.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So that's what little green is then, because little
green is reasonably stance.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, okay, maybe a step and a half away.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well then you should go the other way, right?
You might as well just put onsome BF Goodrich all-road tires
and just go full safari, do it.
You've been talking about thesafari thing for a while.
Honestly, you can meet No.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
All right.
So, look, let's move on.
Let's move on, because I'mstarting to feel a little A
Attacked, Underappreciated, bAttacked And C, quite frankly,
stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The answer is D, all of the above.
Okay, so we had.
This was really quiteinteresting because I wrote our
show notes Well, actually forlast week's show, and so you
hadn't seen them.
And then you posted somethingon Instagram.
You posted a picture of your991.
(21:44):
And you know, opposing thequestion, does anybody ever
think about or lust after theircar they used to own?
And it was interesting timingbecause my black 991 had come up
for sale.
And not only had it come up forsale, it the seller, he used all
(22:06):
of the photos that I'd used inmy ad when I sold it.
Cheeky bastard.
Look, it didn't bother.
To be honest, it didn't botherme at all.
Why do I care?
And because I didn't take thosephotos.
I actually think, when you'reselling a car, i try and avoid
taking photos that look overlyart directed, overly lit,
because I think there's athere's a sense then from
(22:29):
potential buyers that the caronly looks good because it's had
, you know, an amazing photoshoot done.
So I just try and do goodquality Yeah, reasonably
straightforward shots.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You need to tell that to Andy at that.
You know I'm a Andy at thatpodcast that we're not gonna
mention.
Have you seen his 993?
for sale photos.
It's like that he's submittingthem for, you know, a gallery
showing the beautiful.
This is the best shots I'veseen of his car and he published
them the day you mentioned he'sgonna sell it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, i actually, to be honest, he, he potentially
Completely undoes my entireargument just unpicks at a
thread at a time in front of mewith that, with that post,
because, yeah, i mean, that is aspectacular 993, it is, it's
just, it's such a cohesivepackage and and the photography
(23:24):
is, yeah, it's stunning, it'sstunning.
So, yeah, congrats, andy.
I'm disappointed you're sellingthe car, but we've all got to
move on at some point.
And yeah, what an amazing setof shots.
Anyway, i did get me thinking,though.
Do you ever, do you have a lastafter-year-old cars?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, i do, yeah, i do actually, and I think I've
mentioned that on Instagram onceor twice in the last couple of
months and both.
So my, my black 997 was Is inCalifornia, and after posting a
photo of that a couple of weeksago, the new owner, who I've
(24:02):
been in touch with quite a bit,sent me a photo.
It was like, don't worry, it'sdoing well And he's taken off
the decals and he's put new rimson it.
So it doesn't.
It doesn't look like my 997,but it still looks absolutely
epic.
And I said to him genuinely ifyou ever think about selling
(24:23):
that car, i would buy it backfrom you And I think I would.
And then just yesterday Iposted a photo of my grey 991
and the funny thing about thiswas The, the guy that bought it
from me, super nice guy, for acouple of hours down the road
from where I live.
(24:43):
His daughter, who's I don't knowUniversity years maybe, is more
excited about that car than heis Because, having bought that
car at least I think so, havingbought that car She follows me
on Instagram, she comments on myphotos and, within within hours
of posting that photo, saying,you know, asking the question
(25:04):
Does anybody miss the carsthey've sold.
She replies back going Oh,don't you worry, we're having
great fun in it.
So so, jane, if you'relistening, i Appreciate that.
I sincerely do.
I Don't know, though, but youknow it's funny because you know
(25:25):
we talked about the, therelationship between human and
machine before, and a lot ofpeople equate their ex cars to
you know, ex relationships and,in some respects, yeah, maybe
taking back my 991 would beForgiving the, the partner that
cheats on you, but with that 997.
(25:46):
Oh, dude, i don't know.
My self-respect is just.
You know It's in the toilet.
I would take that car back ifit was told, and I'd rebuild it
again.
I just loved, loved that 997 somuch isn't that interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, it's funny because I looked at yeah, i
looked at the ad for my old 991and That is a car that from time
to time I regret selling that Iwish, because I actually think
the brief that I had for thatcar, which was to be a, a
combined daily driver and funcar, i Wasn't able to.
(26:23):
The car wasn't able to answerthat brief.
For me at that particularmoment in time in my life What I
was, what my day-to-day Job andall this sort of stuff, what I
was doing for work It justdidn't meet the brief, whereas I
think now it actually would.
You know, the kids are gettingolder.
We're really in the car as awhole family.
These days, the whole the needfor the family truckster has has
(26:45):
expired somewhat.
So I think I could.
I think I could live with withwith that car as a daily driver.
Now, coupled with the fact thatit came up for sale just after
my buddy Gerard had bought his991 and I was somewhat enamoured
with his car, i thought, oh,he's, he's done it, maybe, maybe
(27:05):
I could do it again.
But of course you do tend tolook at these things through
somewhat rose-colored glasses,right?
because, yeah, i was sittingthere and I was thinking, well,
hang on, because that car didn'thave the Porsche factory
warranty.
It had a significant failurewith the, with the transmission,
during my ownership, and WhichPorsche fixed as as a.
(27:31):
You know, there's a goodwillgesture involved.
So I was like, oh No, i'd wantthe factory warranty and and
probably I probably wouldn'twant another black car.
So, but for for a couple ofdays I was looking at it every
day, dude.
I kept looking at the listingand and go really that's
actually.
I see it looks good, it looks sogood.
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So, yes, i've, i've been, i've,i have, i've been lusting after
him, after my ex.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So I hate to ask And I'm sure there's an equally
uncomfortable Analogy to me care, but can I ask about the price?
You know what you sold it for,what it's on the market for, i
mean.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
He was acceptable?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Is it stinging a little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, actually, because the market has cooled.
The market has definitely okay.
And I remember when I sold itand I posted something a couple
months later about how I wasmissing it and A buddy, renee
Responded and said why don't youget another one?
And I'm like dude, i can'tafford to now because they've
(28:37):
just kept going up and up andyeah, well, to be honest, the
991 market is a little bitskewed at the moment.
I think the, the dot-2's, thesecond gen 991, seem to be
holding value.
Well, the 997's, in Australiaat least, are just constantly
(28:57):
Coming up, not at a rapid ratelike we've seen in terms of the
growth of some other cars, butthat puts them into the realm of
Some of the lower end basecareer and 991's and so they're
starting to be that crossover.
But interestingly so, i soldthat car 18 months ago and He
(29:19):
was Advertised the car.
He had advertised the car forwhat.
I sold it to him And I imagine,you know, i imagine there was a
little bit of negotiationbecause the car, the car, has
actually gone now.
So it would be interesting toknow.
Well, i mean, i don't reallycare to know, to be honest, but
but I think it.
(29:39):
It was an interestingdemonstration of just where the
markets out.
I think it's.
I think it's slowed a littlebit, but yeah, it's, it's, i
think there's a for me.
I always, i always come back tothis idea of a 991, of being
quite a sweet spot, grand tourer, fun in the twisties, just do
(30:01):
everything really really well.
So yeah, maybe, maybe one day Iwould love to get into a second
gen 991.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, i mean, we've been talking about this a
little bit in the last fewepisodes.
Yeah, i just love them.
I like them more and more.
But speaking of the 991, iactually got my hands on a GT3
First generation.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, tell me about you're fitting the cameras
and all that business.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, it was just another local guy in the Twin
Cities wanting Apple CarPlayinstalled in his car and decided
to get a backup camera at thesame time and I was like sure,
yeah, i'll do that for you.
And it's like, yeah, i've got aGT3.
I was like I will definitely dothat for you, bring it over now
.
Yeah, god, it's just, i lovethat car.
(30:51):
I mean, yeah, it's it just, ijust love it, absolutely love it
.
It was in you know kind of Whatwas it?
Press release, white, that itcame in with the red calipers
and the red.
So it wasn't, it wasn't youknow particularly exciting spec,
but still it's just absolutelyglorious.
I found myself, as I wasworking on it, you know, sitting
(31:12):
on my ass and Shuffling aroundtrying to get the fasteners out
and that sort of stuff.
I take it.
I just stop and just look at itand just find myself geysing.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, rightly so, rightly so.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Do you know?
it's funny.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well, because I feel like I do.
You have Particular cars thatyou have seen just in passing on
the street, out and about.
You know maybe during the weekon your daily life, that just
you always remember them and Oh,for sure.
So there's one I remember itvividly driving near my work and
(31:47):
there was a white first gen 991GT3 and I remember just seeing
it and just seeing it in profilewith the wing, and I just
thought that is, That is justsuch a good looking car.
It's got, you know, it's gotthe wings.
So yeah, it's kind of boy racer, but in white it just settled
(32:08):
it down just that little bit AndI thought yeah, that's like you
could drive that I couldhappily drive Yeah totally It.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
For me, actually, one of the Porsches that stands out
is one that I saw on the streetof London in the early 2000s.
I just finished university, youknow, completely lost track of
Porsches at that point.
I just started my career downin London and I was walking down
the street and I saw Carrera 4Sand I think it was in seal gray
(32:35):
or one of those nice kind ofgray colors 996.
And it was a 996.2.
Yeah, and it was absolutelygorgeous.
But as I walked past it I gotto the front end because of the
lights and I hadn't really beenfollowing on what had been going
on with Porsche at the time.
I was like wait, is that a 911or is that something new?
And I remember standing therefor ages, thinking I like it, i
(32:59):
don't like it, i like it Andlike all the things that we've
talked about in the last coupleof years about the 996 happened
in my head for about fiveminutes.
Yeah, because I just stood therestaring at it and still to this
day, when I think of that model, i think about that one parked
in the street of Westminster andjust thinking I want to touch
it, i want to just feel it.
(33:19):
It's gorgeous.
Do you know?
it's funny, though, at the sametime, i've got two hands.
I've got two hands.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
What's funny?
because I still remember thefirst time I saw a 996 C4S as
well, because I hadn't beenpaying as much attention to
Porsche in that moment, partlybecause, as I've mentioned
before, i wasn't a fan of the996 when it came out from a
design perspective.
And I remember actually justdriving along right near where I
(33:52):
work now And I just happened toone just pulled out in front of
me, so suddenly it was drivingin front of me and it was black
And I just remember seeing thatrear light bar and just thinking
, oh man, oh man, wow, they'vejust hit this out of the park.
It just looks so good.
(34:13):
Totally And interestingly, thecat who's selling my old 991,.
his intention is to buy a 996C4S.
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We could talk about 996 for a long time, but suffice
to say I think that waspossibly the sort of the creme
de la creme of the 996generation.
I think the C4S, for manyreasons.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, just gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So tell me about Little Green.
Let's talk air cooled.
Did you really crash it into akangaroo?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
No, no.
Do you know what I did onceactually?
Oh God, little Green, yeah, iwas like it was so.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You see, there are jokes that I make because I love
the Australian stereotype, andthen all you do is go improve
the stereotype.
You drove Little Green into afucking kangaroo.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm happy to do that for you, mate.
No, i did No.
so it was a Sunday morning andI was doing just a solo spin in
the hills And it was.
you know, sometimes the solodrive is the best drive because
you know, when you're out withfriends there's always that
pressure, particularly if you'rein front.
(35:27):
you think I've got to get on it.
I don't want to hold people upAnd I don't know about you, but
I always have the sense that ifsomebody's keeping up with me,
i'm holding them up.
I always have this kind ofthought in the back of my head
that Me too, and it's often truebecause I'm in the base.
So sometimes I enjoy justgetting out and driving by
(35:50):
myself And I'll sometimes, whenI'm driving by myself I'll rip
it, open it right up and have agreat time.
But sometimes I just hit a nicepace where I'm just enjoying it
, pushing it, but everythingwell within its limits.
And I was having a drive likethat and just came around a bend
and this small kangaroo bouncedup.
(36:12):
There was, the road had anembankment on the left hand side
and then a drop off on theright hand side, and he bounced
up from where the drop off wasand then started crossing the
road in front of me.
How big of a kangaroo He wasactually, i'd say, a medium size
, probably smallish, to behonest And so I swerved to the
(36:35):
right.
I don't know why I'm making thesteering movements as people
can see.
It helps me visualize.
So I swerved to the, swerved tothe right and jumped on the
brakes at the same time And hejust, he just cleared me, he
just got past me, but then histail, his tail clipped my front
(36:58):
left gun barrel headlight Andwhen I got home and I stopped
and I got out of the car to lookaround and he bounced off.
So you know, seemingly he wasOK.
He probably had a pretty soretail, as to be said, but when I
got home you should have seenhow scratched it was from his
(37:20):
tail, because I think his tailwas and it was all wet.
And so I think his tail was wetfrom the dew of the grass or
whatever, and had caught allthis gravel from the embankment
he'd just come up.
So he was just like amicrofiber towel that's been
dried on the road in the gravela few times and then just
(37:42):
whacked across the front of thecar.
But anyway, he was seemingly.
Seemingly he was OK.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
So if anyone, if anyone sees a now mature
kangaroo in the Victoria areawith a bent tail, you know what
happened to it A little Porschecrest hanging off the back of it
.
Poor guy was just probablytaking a taking a slash, that's
why it was gone back to him.
Yeah, i did.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
So now look little grain.
So there is some news on littlegrain.
When last we spoke, what wasthe status?
I think I'd mentioned how theshocks didn't get sent and then
did.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, you told me about the whole fiasco about you
know, the couriers and yourother mates broken, broken kit.
But yeah, so far I think youwere going to be out of pocket
because you weren't covered bywarranty and you were feeling a
bit down in the dumps about it.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, ok, so update.
When they did finally arrive,the word on the street was it's
OK, there's nothing wrong withthe shocks, so they're just
going to need a service, andthey'll be fine, so great.
Then turned out that wasn't thecase.
The left front shock, which wasthe one that I feared had an
(39:03):
issue, had a crack along one ofthe welds on the shock body, and
so when they rebuilt it, whenthey serviced it, it was just
leaking fluid out of this, outof this weld.
So needed a new shock bodyright.
So I'm thinking, oh great, sothis is going to take 10 days to
(39:23):
come out of Germany, i'm goingto have to pay for it.
It wasn't actually going to beoverly expensive, thankfully,
but well, and how much of theseoff the shelf each?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I mean, before you start talking installation
everything, we're talking acouple of grand at least, right?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
For a set of KWs.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah .
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I can't remember, but it's expensive.
It is.
It's an expensive upgrade.
I was pretty pissed that thisexpensive upgrade had had.
I would call it amanufacturer's fault.
Now it's not to say the car hashit potholes and stuff like that
It has.
Or kangaroos, yeah.
But I assume that amanufacturer that builds
(40:09):
products to that end, at thatstandard let's say, has to build
them to a certain amount oftolerance to be able to handle
some of these sorts of impacts.
Anyway, i got a call then frommy friend Tim at NineAuto the
next day and he said KW arecovering the shock body, you're
(40:30):
not going to be charged for it,no way, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, year and a half out of warranty.
And I said to him.
I said and this is where itgets really good, right?
I said, do I have you to thankfor that?
Because I thought maybe he'dgone and made representations on
my behalf and threatened tocrack some skulls.
He said listen.
I said to them and by them Imean the Australian distributor
(40:59):
I said to them it's a bit shitthat it's not covered by
warranty.
And they said yeah, it is.
We'll reach out to KW.
And KW said, yeah, no problem,let's send another one.
And everyone no one had to try.
There wasn't a whole bigpalaver or argument, or you know
.
Do you know who this guy is?
He'll expose you on his podcast.
(41:21):
There was none of that And, yeah, it sounds like everyone was
just willing to come to theparty.
And then the even better partof it is that I was still
expecting the shock body to beat least another week away in
transit And I got notificationstoday that it has arrived in
Sydney.
So we should actually have itback in Melbourne by Tuesday And
(41:45):
hopefully, james, hopefully.
I'll have a little green backby the end of next week.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh nice, Very nice.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, yeah, which is perfect timing.
Perfect timing because I have agap in my garage right now.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Come on, let's talk about it, let's rip off the
bandaid.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's our day today.
The GT4 is gone.
What?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, I knew.
Should I pretend like I didn'tknow?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Wait, tell me more.
Whoa, It's a Curb and Canyonexclusive.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It is Wow.
To be fair, though, i've onlyknown for a little while and I
haven't told anyone.
But, dude, i know how much youlike that car, so it's gone,
it's picked up.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, yeah, so it went.
today It's look, it's one ofthose things.
Right, it's just aboutpriorities And my intention was
never to hold on to that carlong term.
It certainly wasn't myintention to sell it this early
on, so I've had the car 11months, but yeah, like I say,
it's about priorities And rightnow having two Porsches just
(42:56):
didn't make sense in the currenteconomic climate.
I need to prioritize my businessand my family, some other stuff
.
So, yeah, totally, i wentthrough the process and thought
I tried to convince myself tokeep it and I just thought I
could, but it just wasn't theright moment to hold on to it.
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
And you know, OK, and you know, let's face it, you've
got a little green and that isarguably the better car in my
opinion.
Well, it's.
And I'm just not, I'm not justyour mate, trying to make you
feel better- No, it's a reallyinteresting point because I did
think I thought, ok, let's,let's.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Actually I forced myself to do, to go through the
mental exercise of maybe Ishould keep the GT4 and sell a
little grain.
I thought I've got to at leastconsider that right.
Yeah, absolutely.
That was the shortest 20 secondsof internal debate ever, but
(43:57):
partly because, look, if Idecided next week and I've said,
i said this when I sold the 991if I decided next week that I
wanted another GT4.
I can get another GT4.
If I decide next week that Iwant another 964.
I might be waiting six months,12 months, before I find the
(44:20):
right one.
So it's just not that simple.
In addition, because I've done,you know, we've just, we've
developed that car so much, theidea of starting that process
again, and not to mention thecost of that, i that just I
can't even conceive of that.
And and that car, that car, forme It answers more briefs than
(44:45):
the GT4 does.
Does it drive or perform to thelevel that the GT4 does?
No, but it is.
It's far more capable than onewould think for a car that's 33
years old.
It's, yeah, i think air cooledcars have a certain cool about
them that the the modern stuffdoesn't have.
(45:08):
They.
They're cool in a different way.
So, yeah, that was never reallyseriously a consideration.
I will say that I drove the GT4just on the weekend with with
some friends and I, yet again, iwas just amazed by how good
that car is, how capable it is,how easy it is to drive it at
(45:34):
pace and it's engaging.
There's there's a lot to likeabout GT4, is no doubt, and I do
think I reckon I'll haveanother one at some point,
because I yeah, there'sunfinished business there.
That was, it was a, it was acracking car and the you know,
the selling cars is alwaysinteresting, right, the the
(45:57):
transactions always tricky and Ihad sure I had a couple of
people contact me.
The first one had messaged methrough car sales, which is the.
You know, it's like I don'tbring a trailer or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Auto trade or auto yeah, because it's not an
auction.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Right, it's not an auction, you just advertise it
as a price.
And he was him.
He'd been messaging me and Ihadn't seen any of the messages,
but he was just low balling,low balling, low balling.
So I, when I finally saw themessages, i just said, hey,
listen, yeah, you know that thatsort of number I'm not
interested in, we're just youand I, just way too far apart
(46:34):
and you won't get a, you won'tget a GT4 for that number.
Then I had another guy call meand he said can I come and look
at the car?
and I said yeah, of course.
And he said I'm flying overfrom Western Australia, i'm
flying to Melbourne.
Okay, far out, he's serious.
So I agreed to meet him in thecar park of a pub where all good
(46:55):
deals are done.
And anyway he messages me.
He says I'm standing over nearthe entrance And all I can see
is this bent over old man andI'm like where, where is he?
and then I see this bent overold man looking at his mobile
phone when I message him backand I'm like, oh, wow, that's
(47:15):
him.
So he sort of hobbles overtowards me.
I'm not kidding, i reckon hewould have been 78 probably.
But he but.
But he rolled up in a very wellpatina, very well used Lotus
Exige And he was looking forsomething else.
(47:37):
And I said to him, he just hada vibe here, reminded me of some
of the people my dad used to gomotor racing with and I said,
paul, you got some, you got somemotor racing in your history.
And he said, yeah, i've stillgot a couple of Formula Fords.
And so he's this guy who's beenracing all his life.
And then he starts telling meabout all of these roads he had
driven just weeks before in hisLotus with his wife, and all the
(48:02):
roads are the roads that wedrive in Alpine Range Rally.
I don't know if.
I'm no way yeah, i don't know ifhe got the maps from Trev or
whether he just found themhimself, but yeah, he was saying
how him.
His wife comes with him.
She sits in the passenger seatof the Lotus, exige knitting
while he's driving.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
That skill right there and danger because I mean
a knitting needle in the eyeparticularly for kangaroo, jumps
out exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Anyway, look he, he, he didn't end up buying the car,
the bloke who had beenlowballing.
we finally came to the partywith some, some reasonable, some
reasonable numbers, and we toodidn't throw it a little bit,
because he was from Sydney Andand wanted to collect the car
rather than ship it to Sydney.
so I met him today, paymentswere taken and I watched him and
(49:00):
his brother drive away in thecar and he, he messaged me
That's happened, that's happenedthis morning.
yeah, did you not see themessage I sent you with the
little video footage and the sadface emoji?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
You do realize I've spent the past eight hours not
asleep in bed with screamingchildren.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I don't know.
I sent it like 10 hours ago.
We're in the middle of a messageconversation, you know.
So that.
So the two things, the tworeally sad moments were.
The first one was when Ibecause I wanted to retain the
license plate, the number plate,which is it's a personalized
(49:40):
plate, it doesn't look like onebut it's.
It's RSP 380, so it's rasp and3.8.
And so I had to put a standardlicense plate on it, and so I
got the cheapest genericVictorian number plate that you
can get and they're a reallyweird shape and they just white
with blue right.
They just look rubbish.
(50:01):
And when I put that on the carI thought this looks crap.
And then I took off, i had topeel off the last rasp sticker
on the on the rear windscreenand, and even after I wiped it a
bunch of times, there was youknow how you get ghosting, and
I'm like yeah, yeah, it's justit's just left its mark.
I'm just gonna leave it thereevery time he washes the car
(50:22):
he's gonna wonder.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, that's funny.
Every time I've sold a car withan auto amateur sticker on it,
i'd left the auto amateursticker on it, thinking that's
another one on the road.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Well, i kind of figured this guy I you know any
conversations I'd had with him.
He had no idea who I was or whoI what last rasp was, and I
didn't want him to.
You know, come back to me in amonth's time and say I've been
watching all your videos.
Looks like you drove the carpretty hard and Tasmania would
(50:54):
have been good to know thatbefore.
You know what I mean.
And so I just thought, yeah,i'll leave it, so anyway.
So look, good luck to him, ihope, i hope he enjoys it, i
hope he gets a lot of fun times.
And you know, i've beenphilosophical about it this
afternoon.
I thought about, i thought inhow you're about to accuse me of
being French here to.
In 11 months of ownership, i'veaveraged a thousand kilometers
(51:19):
per month, most of which.
How many miles is that, james?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Well, i'm just trying to figure out what part of it's
620 miles I reckon I've done620 miles a month.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
I wish I'd work out the kilometers of a thousand
miles no it's more like Eighthundred miles.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
hold on, stay there no.
Alexa, how much is 1000kilometers in miles?
Son of a bitch, 600 miles.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
well done there you go.
So, yeah, about 600 miles andmost of that driving was, you
know, in twisties, fun stuff.
I did Three day rally inTasmania in that car.
I just done your three dayrally Alpine Range rally in that
car.
So I've racked up Plenty ofsmiles and miles in that thing.
(52:17):
You know some of the bestdriving I've ever done in that
car.
So I, you know, i think aboutmy mate PJ in the way he thinks
about cars.
You, you don't collect the cars, you collect the experiences.
And yeah, i've had Had a greatexperience in that car.
So just now want to get littlegreen back in the garage And
move on to things.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
So your Porsche less for the next few days yes, right
now there's the tragedy rightnow.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
I'm gonna put my Jeep in the garage tonight.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
No, don't, just don't do it, don't.
How dare you put that you'vebeen the garage?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
what you still live in the garage I had.
I've owned that car for Sevenyears it was.
It was here before little greenwas, and then it was like it
got kicked out of the garage,right.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
So let's move on to our.
Let's move on to our new, newsegments.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
This is Porsche global outreach program yeah,
it's the Porsche connected vibemoments mates thing I want.
we should ask the listenerswhat we should call.
it Is clearly you know, i can'tcome up with anything good.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
So this is an interesting one, i feel this is
my one.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
I want you.
you gotta tell me about this,is this?
Speaker 2 (53:46):
your all right.
So I am the mate.
Yes, i know, so I'm all right.
So 18 months ago, lee Sibley ofthat podcast that we shall not
name because we name it toooften I think he put something
on social media about this guy,based in Ukraine, works for
(54:07):
Porsche.
He works for Porsche of Kiev.
I just sort of put a spotlighton him at the beginning of the
war when, when Russia invadedand, and it was just, you know,
very kind of nice, sort of hey,check out a fellow you know,
porsche enthusiast, living indifficult times.
(54:28):
So I followed him and I senthim a note saying, you know,
wishing you the best, blah, blah, blah.
And over the course of a year,year and a half, we've developed
quite a good friendship.
You know, we've been chattingevery couple of days and sharing
Videos of our cars, and youknow he's been watching all of
my videos and translating them.
(54:50):
You know it's a great, you know, whatever.
And it turns out he's got adaughter same age as my, my
middle son, adam.
So you know, we've been to theget on Porsche wise and we've
gotten on with the dad vibe andyou know, long story short, he's
increasingly feeling insecurebeing where he is, you know, in
(55:13):
the middle of a war zone.
And so we've, my wife Ruthieand I, we've sponsored him on a
two year visa to the US, him,his wife and his child, and
they're going to be arrivingactually tomorrow.
They're going to be arrivingtomorrow, i think, the day this
pod hopefully will will drop,and they're coming in from
(55:37):
Europe, they're arriving inMinneapolis.
They're you know, they'recoming with a single bag between
the three of them, i think, andthey're going to be living with
us for a couple of months whilewe help get them settled.
But this, this, this visaprogram or emergency visa
program, that the, theadministration, the federal
government, you know, put in ayear or so ago.
(55:59):
I didn't, i didn't realize itexisted.
And somebody, in fact my nextdoor neighbor, has done this for
a couple of Ukrainian children.
She's from Ukraine herself, infact, she, she grew up near
Chernobyl, and so she jokes thatshe glows in the dark, which I
think I'm not sure if I shouldlaugh at that or, you know,
(56:21):
maybe put a lead wall betweenher house and our house.
But yeah, yeah, they'rearriving tomorrow and we're like
super excited to meet them andthey're going to be staying in
our basement for at least acouple of weeks until we get
them settled with.
You know, all the things theyneed to do, like drivers
licenses, and find them a placeto live, and we are going to be
(56:45):
helping to find them work,helping to get down the little
girl into daycare, you know,hopefully the same one is, oh, i
guess kindergarten now.
I guess it's now the summer.
So, yeah, it feels it feelslike a really big thing to do.
It kind of feels like a strangething to do But at the same
time the fact that I can helpsomebody out like that it's,
(57:10):
it's mega.
And if, if I may, i'm channelingmy, my inner granddad here.
My, my granddad, ernie, was aprisoner of war in World War two
, captured in Greece, shippedoff to Austria and spent three
years basically walking aroundin his briefs in the snow eating
(57:31):
potatoes with the threat ofdeath every day.
And he came out of the war andgrowing up as a kid it was so
funny to see my grandmother kindof just pulling a hair out
because he would turn up withGermans, french, dutch, italians
, russians, who he bumped intoin the purple, you know
(57:54):
somewhere near where he lived,impressed in and invited them to
come and camp on his frontgarden.
You know, for days, at the timeYou just like a very, very open
, very welcoming kind of guy.
And when, when this opportunitycame along, i thought it just
made me think about my granddad,ernie.
So I thought, yeah, if I can dothis for a family, awesome.
So now I'm gonna have to tryand learn how to talk Porsche in
(58:18):
Ukrainian.
it's difficult, it's adifficult language.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
So I messaged you a couple days ago and said hey,
you're up, you gotta come upwith something for our Porsche
global outreach.
vibe friendship Connective handsconcept and you sent me that.
You sent me a messageexplaining this and my first
(58:45):
response was is he kidding?
and And but I?
there was something about thetone of your message that I
thought no, i think he's, ithink he's serious and I do not
gonna say I mean.
First of all, you know, youthink about me selling a car and
feeling a bit down in the dumpsabout it.
Talk about putting things intoperspective, right, look.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah he's?
Speaker 1 (59:09):
he's a guy worried about, you know, his future, the
future of his family, genuinelyconcerned for their own safety,
and rightly so.
Who needs to, who feelsdesperate enough to pack his
whole family up with one bag Andtravel across the world
somewhere, is never presumablynever been to set up some kind
(59:30):
of life there.
That's, you know, that's justmassive and, like I say, puts
things into perspective.
And then, on the flip side ofthat, i want to acknowledge you
and pay tribute to you for, andRuthie and your family for, what
you're doing.
I think it is just anincredible act and, yeah, i'm
(59:54):
actually blown away, man, ithink it's.
I think it's incredible.
Well done to you guys.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
Cheers bud appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah, it's feels like abig step, but it's gonna be
quite an adventure, more so forthem than us.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
But yeah, yeah, thank you, incredible, incredible.
All right, shall we finish withvideo of the week.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Let's do it.
I'm excited about this one.
When you sent it to me and Ijust thought what on earth?
what on earth is he doing?
know what?
so you want to talk us throughit?
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
So in 1981, the early 80s, late 70s, early 80s was a
time of superhero films and youknow, really it was Christopher
Reaver, superman that thatreally set the mold for
superhero movies And it set thebenchmark for them to aspire to.
(01:00:48):
you can argue some of them didit more successfully than others
, and it might be suggested thatthe 1981 film condor man didn't
quite reach the dizzyingheights of Christopher Reave in
Superman.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
However, has anyone heard of it?
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I don't know, i don't know.
I'm sure people had you heardof this film.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
No, but that was I have not heard of the film the
sequence that you sent me.
I have absolutely no clue whatit was.
I actually thought it was ajoke, but when I saw the actor
Michael Crawford sat in thefront seat, i just I couldn't
believe it.
I mean, he's the guy from somemothers do have them.
Right now he's playing thislike he's like a James Bond
(01:01:36):
superhero driving a fancy carRidiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
So I remember seeing this film on a family holiday
when I was obviously reallyyoung and I remember just
thinking it was amazing and Iremember this sequence because
he is in a kind of bright yellow.
Let's call it the condor man.
Rip off of the Batmobile, youknow, full of gadgets, is just
(01:02:04):
the stupidest thing you've everseen, with a rocket at the back
and all that sort of business.
But he's being chased by thissquad of what are they called
the, the KGB pursuit squad, andthey are driving.
There are four black 9 11's andthen a black 9 35 that the boss
guy drives.
(01:02:24):
Yeah yeah, and it's just.
It's actually a really goodsequence and the stunt
coordinator on that sequence isa was a French stunt coordinator
who worked on a lot of famouschase sequences in a lot of
films, and so it actually itplays pretty well, not to It
does?
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
How to use the.
He's like pushing all thebuttons randomly.
You know he's making that shit.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's ridiculous because you know you think about
James Bond right, like if he'sgonna shoot a cannon at the back
, he'll flick a little, switchthe cannon comes out and then
presses a button, it shoots,whereas he's got this like 1981.
It looks like a speaking spellor something where he's just
tapping random colored squaresfor like 30 seconds straight to
(01:03:29):
get this thing to fire.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
It's so dumb, oh my god.
And his co pilot.
The ladies sat there watchinghim intently, like, oh yes, he's
doing a really good job.
He's like he's protecting me.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
He knows exactly what he's doing and he's just there
like Yeah, how about eyes on theroad mate, because he's driving
this insanely tight, twistyroad and, as you pointed out,
which I didn't know, what is thename of the actress?
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
But Barbara Carrera, barbara Carrera, barbara, it's
not Barbara Carrera.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Barbara Carrera.
yeah, i love that, carrera,that's so good.
now it is hard to watch becausethe 935 makes it through this
sequence but none of the 911'sdo, sadly, they all, they all
meet somewhat fiery demise, butit is.
Where do you reckon that shot?
is that like Italy, do youthink?
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I don't know.
I would have thought SouthernCalifornia, that looks like
That's nice, not?
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
so it's because they go into a village and stuff like
that and I know the film.
I did do a bit of research onWikipedia because, again, i'm a
crack journalist and And theytalked about shooting in France,
spain, italy and a few otherplaces.
So yeah, it's.
(01:04:45):
I think it's somewhere inEurope.
Someone might know.
If you are that one person thathas gone deep on condo man and
know where the shootinglocations were, please let us
know.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
So this is now gonna put me in a tough spot, i think.
But wasn't Michael Crawfordlike one of the upcoming kind of
cool guys, action guys,potentially sort of the British
Steve McQueen at one point?
you know he was in this movie.
He was then no seriously.
He was in like a number ofdifferent things that were
(01:05:22):
supposed to be relativelyserious and relatively cool and
he ended up being known for Youknow some other stuff man who
says who, betty in some of thedrama.
Didn't he also play Phantom ofthe Opera in the West?
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
and he did.
Actually, that's true, he didplay Phantom of the Opera.
Forgot about that.
So I mean imagine being him.
He's.
I'm sure he probably went andstudied at the best drama school
.
He's probably a triple threat,right he can act he can sing, he
can dance You know all of thatand then he ends up on some
(01:05:57):
mothers do have them doing thatridiculous accent and the whole
the catchphrase.
You know he's basically What'shis name, ricky Gervais.
In what's the show?
is it having a laugh?
he's basically that characterAnd somehow he's a superman, a
superhero in this film.
I don't, i don't get it, butit's a bit of fun.
(01:06:19):
I think I think it's worth justsaying as well, just quickly
watch it on YouTube.
I'm not sure I'd commit thetime to watching the entire film
.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Just watch that sequence.
Well, my friend this has beenfun.
Good job, good job.
Watch out for those kangaroos.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
All right.
Well, do you know what?
before we do wrap it up, i dojust want to acknowledge and say
thank you to everybody who'sbeen posting on their Instagram
stories that you know photos ofthem listening to our episodes
in the car Although make sureyou keep both hands on the wheel
when you're taking photos whileyou're driving and the
wonderful comments we're gettingand the DMs that the people
(01:07:03):
send.
It's really.
It's really really encouraging,and we do want to keep bringing
you guys this content becausewe enjoy it, we love I mean, we
love these conversations.
I'm sure James wakes up in themorning and thinks I can't
believe I have to do this.
To be honest, i really wantedto go to bed right before this
started, but it's been theabsolute highlight of my day.
So I hope I hope you guys cantell how much we enjoy doing
(01:07:26):
this when you listen to it andhopefully you get a bit of that
out of it too.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Absolutely.
Thanks for checking in, guys.
See you in the next episode.
Take care, guys.
Bye.
Good evening, James McGarar.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, if it isn't the Australian Elvis, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Do you know what?
I'm going to take that as acompliment?
You should, and it's theBritish tinting, although I
think tinting was always British, right?
Yeah, maybe, i don't know, ithink you are.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think you're a Brit Dude.
can I just tell you It's earlyagain.
What's going on?
And this morning is earlierthan early.
My kid's been awake all night.
I hate you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So my question to you is get again.
This was your idea, and howmuch do you think our wonderful
listeners want to hear the startof every podcast?
You pissing and moaning abouthow early it is, because do you
know what they expect?
What they expect is highquality journalism done to the
(00:59):
highest order and expertisearound our key subject being
Porsche.
I mean, that's what they tunein for.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
All right, mate, look , let's just at least make this
promise to our listeners.
That's what they're going toget from you this morning.
For me, it's going to be anabsolute mess.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Welcome to Kerbin Canyon.
So, do you know, i used toscript those intros and James
(01:40):
would never, never do what wason the script.
So now we don't.
There always seems to be anatural moment where it's like
yeah, there it is, there's thewelcome.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, And you know, just like the videos of the week
, you assume that I read those.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, you look at you .
You've become such an American.
It just for those of youlistening.
I can't see James right now.
We use FaceTime to communicateduring these sessions And his
entire face is.
I don't know what that is.
It's covered by the largestthermos coffee cup, and is that
(02:21):
just full of what?
Just filter rubbish?
Is that what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, we call it Minnesota Brown.
It's just that, oh man, it's.
You know, whatever you get offthe shelf in the filter, slap it
in, put the water through it,it's practically useless.
But you see, here's the thingNext to my awful, terrible
American Mr Coffee machineSpaceball fans reference we call
(02:50):
it Mr Coffee Next to that I'vegot my beautiful Nespresso
machine which makes just epic,gorgeous, lovely espressos.
But you see, if I put that onright now, yeah, you're going to
laugh at that, because that isalso not as good enough coffee
for you.
Hey look, if it's good enoughfor George Clooney's sunshine,
(03:11):
it's good enough for me.
But if I play, if I, if I madeone of those right now, the
whole house would be awakebecause the fucker is loud, yeah
they are, they are, yeah, yeah,i hear you.
I hear you Anyway, which, whichlittle Colombian boys grew the
beans and and roasted them onthe backyard grill?
(03:33):
that made your.
That made your coffee thismorning.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Your your expertise when it comes to coffee is
surpassed only by your expertisewhen it comes to talking about
porches.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
All right, come on What we got this week.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, heaps Lots to talk about.
We're going to talk.
We've got some morecongratulations We're going to
talk about.
I'm a bit of a design, tragic,so we're going to talk about the
Porsche crest.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
We're going to talk about, should you ever?
it's going to be exciting.
I knew that one was going toitch your crack.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I knew it right.
It always has, Absolutely.
Of course it was going to.
Oh, my goodness, we're going totalk about buying back old cars
.
Got some updates on a few cars,some pretty significant updates
actually, some some devastatingupdates Some well, no.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You crashed, little green into a kangaroo over a
wallaby and onto the set of thelast episode of Neighbours.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's weird.
It's like you think I'mAustralian.
Well, french, apparently.
So my buddy Simon posted aphoto.
You know how, on your, on youriPhone, it'll just bring up
photos like a memory from 10years ago or whatever.
Today he posted one one suchmemory and it was his wide body
(04:57):
three to career that he used toown.
They're like a factory, widebody, beautiful car, and he'd
had it for not very long at alland he hit a kangaroo and you
should have seen how damaged thefront of the car was.
I'm sure the kangaroo wasreasonably damaged too, but, yes
, pretty devastating photoactually.
Bad for him, bad for the room.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Please tell me, please, please tell me.
We can use that as the coverfor this week's episode.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I will check.
I will check with my good palSimon and get back to you,
because who knows?
there might still be a courtcase pending or something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, those kangaroos like to sue.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh they do.
You know, they're just classaction.
They're really big on it,really big on it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Feisty little boogers .
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, hey, and also video of the week today is it's
it's a, it's one out of thearchives, right, It's a fun one,
It is Oh yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Do this one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Your level of preparation is something else.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Dude again.
It's like six in the morningyesterday here.
Yeah, no, no, no, it is.
It's absolutely precious.
I can't wait to talk about thisone.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, hey.
So I want to start.
I've been talking about friendsacquiring new cars, So finally,
last weekend we went for adrive on Sunday morning in the
hills and Rocco not to beconfused with Choco or Blocko I
had to get in before you.
You beat me to it, of course.
(06:30):
I did You predictable now.
Next, you're going to accuse meof being French when I say
kilometers an hour Rocco showedup in his amazing new Carmine
Red 718 Cayman GTS 4.0.
That's quite the longnomenclature, isn't it?
Oh, dude, this car.
You know there are some carsthat just stick the landing in
(06:55):
every regard.
You see it, and you just gouh-huh, uh-huh, yeah.
Yeah, there it is There, it isThere, it is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now, you see, for that car I think the color is
maybe the least important partof the formula that you just
explained there for us.
Explain My friend, michael, hasthe exact same car, but in the
Genshin Blue.
Oh, you pronounce that?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
blue.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
When he turned up last summer to one of our drives
, I literally couldn't take myeyes off that car.
The parking lot was filled withair cooled and water cooled
mostly 911s.
One poor SOB in a Cayenne.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You went in your Cayenne.
You're such a dork.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But his Genshin Blue GTS, blah, blah, blah,
absolutely just gorgeous car.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's funny because Rocco won't mind me saying
actually he probably will, buthe can't stop me.
He's quite old and he finds ita little bit difficult to get
out of bed in the morning.
He's all creaky and stuff likethat.
He doesn't always meet us atthe very start of the day.
We met him at the top of one ofthe best roads that we do and
(08:14):
we'd all stopped there to have abit of a break and stretch the
legs and water some plants Andyeah, then suddenly you could
hear this car.
You could hear it coming.
Yeah, dude.
And then he used to come aroundthe corner.
It was like John Bon Jovibursting onto the stage.
Everyone just went nuts.
It was a very, very cool moment.
(08:37):
So, yeah, pretty happy.
That's to you, rocco BlocoChoco.
I nearly wore my uncle Roccosweatshirt tonight in honor of
the great man.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So, come on, let's talk about.
This is going to be therapy foryou.
Let's talk about the newPorsche Crest design, because
before we even get into it, letme just say I couldn't care less
.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, so I want to know what.
So which is not an unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It basically looks the same to me.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I know, i know, and it's funny because I wrote all
this stuff down and I waswriting it, i wrote bullet
points for it and I thought thisis going to be entirely up to
me to deliver this.
It's not like James is going tostep in and help out, so can I
ask why?
Why is this not of interest toyou?
(09:32):
Well, all right, is it justbecause I suggested it?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Naturally, my default position to yours is always
contrary.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know if it was a great, a huge departure from the
logo, from the sort of the.
Imagine the outcry though Allthe design basics.
You know it's still the sameshape, they still use the same
colors.
It's still obviously thePorsche brand.
You know, i think there arelots of brands and now please
(10:09):
don't ask me to name any of them, but there are lots of brands
whose, like designers, hasevolved over the decades, but
they still, in your mind, lookexactly the same Like.
Maybe it's the McDonald'sArches, or maybe it's the
Coca-Cola logo There's.
They've always been presentedslightly differently To me.
I know that there are a fewdifferent.
(10:29):
You know there are a few biggerdifferences with this one in
particular.
But you know, you look at it,it's the Porsche logo.
It still is.
It's still the Porsche crest.
A few little fiddly bits havebeen fiddled with, but you know
who's against a bit of fiddling.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I saw that coming a mile away.
Well, so here's the thing,right.
So why don't we get excitedabout the 911?
Because that's just evolution,not revolution.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, all right, fair enough, but the crest is
something.
I mean there's a really crassyou know comparisons to make
here, but the crest is.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I can't actually think of what that is.
I'm like this is the mostReally So far.
it's the most intelligentconversation you and I have ever
had.
And you're thinking about crassthings.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
you could say Oh, i'm going to bring it down.
So the crest is window dressing.
Okay, the 911, you get insideit, you pull it apart, you get
an absolute thrill of your life.
I mean, it's like thedifference between looking at
(11:40):
the bottle of Coca-Cola anddrinking Coca-Cola for the first
time, because for many, everytime you get inside a slightly
different 911, it's a new 911.
But it's something completelynew.
So to me it's like looking atit versus experiencing it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, do you know what I don't disagree And,
bizarrely enough, you're rightthough so many brands do this.
They evolve their logo Andactually in the automotive space
it is particularly common Andin fact, when you look at the
Porsche crest, it has actuallyseen design tweaks in 1954, 1963
(12:20):
, 1973, my birth year 1994 and2008.
So it's actually it has evolvedover time.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I didn't know that.
See, there you go.
I didn't know that.
I thought, wow, they've finallydone it After all these years
they've changed it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So, look, I mean I think, well, let's not lay with
the point, because I suspectthat, given you know we're a
50-50 split in terms of ourinterest on this, our audience
is probably a little bit thesame.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Tell us what's changed Like.
I'm actually very interested tounderstand what's changed.
Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think it's one of those things where you would
look at it and think, huh, thatdoes look different.
There's something, but Icouldn't put my finger on.
I'll tell you what has changed.
The texture behind the antlersand the Porsche text.
There was a sort of a I don'tknow what.
You'd call it, a mottledtexture, if you like.
That's gone.
The Porsche text itself appearsto be smoother.
(13:21):
They have introduced ahoneycomb pattern into the red
stripes.
The horse itself is a differenthorse Okay, that's weird, and
it's funny thing, you know youalways think about the prancing
horse, the Ferrari.
you know you sometimes forgetthat the horse, which is the, i
think, the insignia forStuttgart, is my understanding.
(13:44):
Yeah, there's a prancing horsein the Porsche logo And then the
Stuttgart text, which used tosimply be embossed, is now black
.
But yeah, if you saw it, yousee it on the front of a new car
which apparently they're goingto start rolling them out back
end of this year.
I don't think it's going tohave any sort of wholesale
(14:06):
effect on the overall look atthe car, but hey, it's
interesting in the Porsche spaceand, as a design, tragic.
I must confess that I did spend, let's say, more time than was
absolutely necessary readingabout it and looking at it and
comparing the logos through thegenerations and found it to be
quite interesting.
(14:26):
You're looking now I can tell,because you've tuned out for me.
No, no, no, what are youtalking about?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So I'm now going down the rabbit hole with you and
I'm looking at the sixapparently six different
versions here on Porschecom, onthe news, on the news, the news
page.
Yeah, it is actually quitesignificant from one to the
other.
I will you know it is and itisn't, But I'm not a big fan of
(14:56):
the honeycomb.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm not a fan of the honeycomb.
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, no, i mean like it's okay, I don't need to throw
that under the bus because I'llruin it for everyone, but I
don't really like that one.
But I do like the fact thatthey've taken away the sort of
you know, the polka dot modelbackground behind the analyst.
That's fair.
Let me ask you this, though Forall of the dweebs out there,
(15:23):
myself included, that areactually quite interested in
going to buy one of those andsee if it'll fit on the front of
their Porsche, what do youthink Is that?
is that the type of thing thatwell, even if it fits, let's say
it.
Let's say it fits.
Yeah, could you be forgiven forputting that on the hood of
little green?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Look, i think he could.
I personally would not Because,if I'm honest, at the end of
the day I don't love it.
I actually prefer the previousiteration.
I actually like the texture.
It doesn't look very today.
It does hark back somewhat, butI actually really like the
(16:05):
texture of the previous.
well, every other versionbasically No, i would.
I personally would not put iton little green.
I have no problem with somebodywho does.
I just wouldn't talk to themand couldn't be friends with
them.
But no, that's totally unfair.
I would absolutely talk to themand be friendly to them and
(16:28):
then say a lot of things whenthey left.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So it's funny, this has happened, because actually I
need a new emblem on the frontof my Cayenne, because the
Cayenne came with the black andwhite version as opposed to the
color.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I was going to ask you what's your view on the
black and silver.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So I actually think it looks pretty good on the
right car, but on my Cayenne itdoesn't look good.
It kind of looks like it's beensun-faded as opposed to.
it's an intentional choice fromthe factory And that's what I
thought it was originally.
But the more I've looked at itit's quite clearly it's never
had any color.
It's always been the black andthe silver.
(17:13):
So I want to replace it with acolorful one, but I'll probably
stick with the one that's trueto the model, as opposed to
getting a new one.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, i feel that's.
oh, do you know what?
Why don't you go?
the sticker light white.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's funny.
You should mention that,honestly, dude.
It's funny.
You should mention that becauseI've been looking at a carbon
fiber hood for bluey.
Oh no, no, no, for real.
A carbon fiber hood for blueyAnd the manufacturer of it, who
designs, custom designs bodyparts for race cars.
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It won't come with an emblem,or at least it won't come with
the divot for the emblem.
So if I am going to get itwhich I probably won't, but if I
do, i'm going to go for thesticker.
Yeah, gt2 RS baby.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yep, so I'm not going to ask you.
I don't want to blow up yourspot, so I'm not going to ask
you what a carbon fiber bonnetcosts Hood, whatever What a
carbon fiber hood costs Actually.
(18:24):
Now, what does a carbon fiberhood cost?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, i think if you got it from Porsche it cost you
about four grand, but from thisparticular supplier it's about
1500.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Right About the price of some lowering springs.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
God damn it Come on dude, I'm the only thing that is
needed to lower my car.
They're a no need.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I saw you posted some really nice photos of bluey
this week and the car looks sogood with the whole number front
number plate thing going alicense plate as you guys call
them.
But we've just we've got totalk about the stance.
This has to be fixed.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
All right then, Mr Design Guru.
So how can somebody so finickyand aintly retentive when it
comes to.
That's correct.
It's a technical term.
Look it up.
Okay, So right now, my circularwheels are perfectly flush with
the curvature of the wheelarches.
(19:26):
It's a circle in a circle.
It fits perfectly.
You start lowering them and itruins it.
Oh my God, It just ruins thelook.
Does it Like to explain that tome, Mr Design Guy?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's not just about the matching of the curvature of
the wheel to the curvature ofthe guard.
That, no, it's about race car.
It's about stance.
It's about the car lookingaggressive, not apologetic.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It looks aggressive when I'm in it with my middle
fingers up, being like go out ofthe way, Karen.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Poor Karen, all right , well, i can say I'm not going
to convince you on that, andthat just makes me a little bit
sad.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I had this conversation with Drew over at
the Cool Collective and heshamed me for a long time about
trying to argue this, because Ithink he's even shamed people by
putting stickers on their carswhen they're too high.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, because he had that hoodie.
no more wheel gap, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, that's right.
There are some cars that looklike that, but that is just one
step away from being the HondaCivic driver with the wheels
that are angled in and out.
I mean, it's pretty close toyou know, chaff Central dude.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So that's what little green is then, because little
green is reasonably stance.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, okay, maybe a step and a half away.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well then you should go the other way, right?
You might as well just put onsome BF Goodrich all-road tires
and just go full safari, do it.
You've been talking about thesafari thing for a while.
Honestly, you can meet No.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
All right.
So, look, let's move on.
Let's move on, because I'mstarting to feel a little A
Attacked, Underappreciated, bAttacked And C, quite frankly,
stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The answer is D, all of the above.
Okay, so we had.
This was really quiteinteresting because I wrote our
show notes Well, actually forlast week's show, and so you
hadn't seen them.
And then you posted somethingon Instagram.
You posted a picture of your991.
(21:44):
And you know, opposing thequestion, does anybody ever
think about or lust after theircar they used to own?
And it was interesting timingbecause my black 991 had come up
for sale.
And not only had it come up forsale, it the seller, he used all
(22:06):
of the photos that I'd used inmy ad when I sold it.
Cheeky bastard.
Look, it didn't bother.
To be honest, it didn't botherme at all.
Why do I care?
And because I didn't take thosephotos.
I actually think, when you'reselling a car, i try and avoid
taking photos that look overlyart directed, overly lit,
because I think there's athere's a sense then from
(22:29):
potential buyers that the caronly looks good because it's had
, you know, an amazing photoshoot done.
So I just try and do goodquality Yeah, reasonably
straightforward shots.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You need to tell that to Andy at that.
You know I'm a Andy at thatpodcast that we're not gonna
mention.
Have you seen his 993?
for sale photos.
It's like that he's submittingthem for, you know, a gallery
showing the beautiful.
This is the best shots I'veseen of his car and he published
them the day you mentioned he'sgonna sell it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, i actually, to be honest, he, he potentially
Completely undoes my entireargument just unpicks at a
thread at a time in front of mewith that, with that post,
because, yeah, i mean, that is aspectacular 993, it is, it's
just, it's such a cohesivepackage and and the photography
(23:24):
is, yeah, it's stunning, it'sstunning.
So, yeah, congrats, andy.
I'm disappointed you're sellingthe car, but we've all got to
move on at some point.
And yeah, what an amazing setof shots.
Anyway, i did get me thinking,though.
Do you ever, do you have a lastafter-year-old cars?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, i do, yeah, i do actually, and I think I've
mentioned that on Instagram onceor twice in the last couple of
months and both.
So my, my black 997 was Is inCalifornia, and after posting a
photo of that a couple of weeksago, the new owner, who I've
(24:02):
been in touch with quite a bit,sent me a photo.
It was like, don't worry, it'sdoing well And he's taken off
the decals and he's put new rimson it.
So it doesn't.
It doesn't look like my 997,but it still looks absolutely
epic.
And I said to him genuinely ifyou ever think about selling
(24:23):
that car, i would buy it backfrom you And I think I would.
And then just yesterday Iposted a photo of my grey 991
and the funny thing about thiswas The, the guy that bought it
from me, super nice guy, for acouple of hours down the road
from where I live.
(24:43):
His daughter, who's I don't knowUniversity years maybe, is more
excited about that car than heis Because, having bought that
car at least I think so, havingbought that car She follows me
on Instagram, she comments on myphotos and, within within hours
of posting that photo, saying,you know, asking the question
(25:04):
Does anybody miss the carsthey've sold.
She replies back going Oh,don't you worry, we're having
great fun in it.
So so, jane, if you'relistening, i Appreciate that.
I sincerely do.
I Don't know, though, but youknow it's funny because you know
(25:25):
we talked about the, therelationship between human and
machine before, and a lot ofpeople equate their ex cars to
you know, ex relationships and,in some respects, yeah, maybe
taking back my 991 would beForgiving the, the partner that
cheats on you, but with that 997.
(25:46):
Oh, dude, i don't know.
My self-respect is just.
You know It's in the toilet.
I would take that car back ifit was told, and I'd rebuild it
again.
I just loved, loved that 997 somuch isn't that interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, it's funny because I looked at yeah, i
looked at the ad for my old 991and That is a car that from time
to time I regret selling that Iwish, because I actually think
the brief that I had for thatcar, which was to be a, a
combined daily driver and funcar, i Wasn't able to.
(26:23):
The car wasn't able to answerthat brief.
For me at that particularmoment in time in my life What I
was, what my day-to-day Job andall this sort of stuff, what I
was doing for work It justdidn't meet the brief, whereas I
think now it actually would.
You know, the kids are gettingolder.
We're really in the car as awhole family.
These days, the whole the needfor the family truckster has has
(26:45):
expired somewhat.
So I think I could.
I think I could live with withwith that car as a daily driver.
Now, coupled with the fact thatit came up for sale just after
my buddy Gerard had bought his991 and I was somewhat enamoured
with his car, i thought, oh,he's, he's done it, maybe, maybe
(27:05):
I could do it again.
But of course you do tend tolook at these things through
somewhat rose-colored glasses,right?
because, yeah, i was sittingthere and I was thinking, well,
hang on, because that car didn'thave the Porsche factory
warranty.
It had a significant failurewith the, with the transmission,
during my ownership, and WhichPorsche fixed as as a.
(27:31):
You know, there's a goodwillgesture involved.
So I was like, oh No, i'd wantthe factory warranty and and
probably I probably wouldn'twant another black car.
So, but for for a couple ofdays I was looking at it every
day, dude.
I kept looking at the listingand and go really that's
actually.
I see it looks good, it looks sogood.
(27:53):
So, yes, i've, i've been, i've,i have, i've been lusting after
him, after my ex.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So I hate to ask And I'm sure there's an equally
uncomfortable Analogy to me care, but can I ask about the price?
You know what you sold it for,what it's on the market for, i
mean.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
He was acceptable?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Is it stinging a little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, actually, because the market has cooled.
The market has definitely okay.
And I remember when I sold itand I posted something a couple
months later about how I wasmissing it and A buddy, renee
Responded and said why don't youget another one?
And I'm like dude, i can'tafford to now because they've
(28:37):
just kept going up and up andyeah, well, to be honest, the
991 market is a little bitskewed at the moment.
I think the, the dot-2's, thesecond gen 991, seem to be
holding value.
Well, the 997's, in Australiaat least, are just constantly
(28:57):
Coming up, not at a rapid ratelike we've seen in terms of the
growth of some other cars, butthat puts them into the realm of
Some of the lower end basecareer and 991's and so they're
starting to be that crossover.
But interestingly so, i soldthat car 18 months ago and He
(29:19):
was Advertised the car.
He had advertised the car forwhat.
I sold it to him And I imagine,you know, i imagine there was a
little bit of negotiationbecause the car, the car, has
actually gone now.
So it would be interesting toknow.
Well, i mean, i don't reallycare to know, to be honest, but
but I think it.
(29:39):
It was an interestingdemonstration of just where the
markets out.
I think it's.
I think it's slowed a littlebit, but yeah, it's, it's, i
think there's a for me.
I always, i always come back tothis idea of a 991, of being
quite a sweet spot, grand tourer, fun in the twisties, just do
(30:01):
everything really really well.
So yeah, maybe, maybe one day Iwould love to get into a second
gen 991.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, i mean, we've been talking about this a
little bit in the last fewepisodes.
Yeah, i just love them.
I like them more and more.
But speaking of the 991, iactually got my hands on a GT3
First generation.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, tell me about you're fitting the cameras
and all that business.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, it was just another local guy in the Twin
Cities wanting Apple CarPlayinstalled in his car and decided
to get a backup camera at thesame time and I was like sure,
yeah, i'll do that for you.
And it's like, yeah, i've got aGT3.
I was like I will definitely dothat for you, bring it over now
.
Yeah, god, it's just, i lovethat car.
(30:51):
I mean, yeah, it's it just, ijust love it, absolutely love it
.
It was in you know kind of Whatwas it?
Press release, white, that itcame in with the red calipers
and the red.
So it wasn't, it wasn't youknow particularly exciting spec,
but still it's just absolutelyglorious.
I found myself, as I wasworking on it, you know, sitting
(31:12):
on my ass and Shuffling aroundtrying to get the fasteners out
and that sort of stuff.
I take it.
I just stop and just look at itand just find myself geysing.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, rightly so, rightly so.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Do you know?
it's funny.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well, because I feel like I do.
You have Particular cars thatyou have seen just in passing on
the street, out and about.
You know maybe during the weekon your daily life, that just
you always remember them and Oh,for sure.
So there's one I remember itvividly driving near my work and
(31:47):
there was a white first gen 991GT3 and I remember just seeing
it and just seeing it in profilewith the wing, and I just
thought that is, That is justsuch a good looking car.
It's got, you know, it's gotthe wings.
So yeah, it's kind of boy racer, but in white it just settled
(32:08):
it down just that little bit AndI thought yeah, that's like you
could drive that I couldhappily drive Yeah totally It.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
For me, actually, one of the Porsches that stands out
is one that I saw on the streetof London in the early 2000s.
I just finished university, youknow, completely lost track of
Porsches at that point.
I just started my career downin London and I was walking down
the street and I saw Carrera 4Sand I think it was in seal gray
(32:35):
or one of those nice kind ofgray colors 996.
And it was a 996.2.
Yeah, and it was absolutelygorgeous.
But as I walked past it I gotto the front end because of the
lights and I hadn't really beenfollowing on what had been going
on with Porsche at the time.
I was like wait, is that a 911or is that something new?
And I remember standing therefor ages, thinking I like it, i
(32:59):
don't like it, i like it Andlike all the things that we've
talked about in the last coupleof years about the 996 happened
in my head for about fiveminutes.
Yeah, because I just stood therestaring at it and still to this
day, when I think of that model, i think about that one parked
in the street of Westminster andjust thinking I want to touch
it, i want to just feel it.
(33:19):
It's gorgeous.
Do you know?
it's funny, though, at the sametime, i've got two hands.
I've got two hands.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
What's funny?
because I still remember thefirst time I saw a 996 C4S as
well, because I hadn't beenpaying as much attention to
Porsche in that moment, partlybecause, as I've mentioned
before, i wasn't a fan of the996 when it came out from a
design perspective.
And I remember actually justdriving along right near where I
(33:52):
work now And I just happened toone just pulled out in front of
me, so suddenly it was drivingin front of me and it was black
And I just remember seeing thatrear light bar and just thinking
, oh man, oh man, wow, they'vejust hit this out of the park.
It just looks so good.
(34:13):
Totally And interestingly, thecat who's selling my old 991,.
his intention is to buy a 996C4S.
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We could talk about 996 for a long time, but suffice
to say I think that waspossibly the sort of the creme
de la creme of the 996generation.
I think the C4S, for manyreasons.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, just gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So tell me about Little Green.
Let's talk air cooled.
Did you really crash it into akangaroo?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
No, no.
Do you know what I did onceactually?
Oh God, little Green, yeah, iwas like it was so.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You see, there are jokes that I make because I love
the Australian stereotype, andthen all you do is go improve
the stereotype.
You drove Little Green into afucking kangaroo.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm happy to do that for you, mate.
No, i did No.
so it was a Sunday morning andI was doing just a solo spin in
the hills And it was.
you know, sometimes the solodrive is the best drive because
you know, when you're out withfriends there's always that
pressure, particularly if you'rein front.
(35:27):
you think I've got to get on it.
I don't want to hold people upAnd I don't know about you, but
I always have the sense that ifsomebody's keeping up with me,
i'm holding them up.
I always have this kind ofthought in the back of my head
that Me too, and it's often truebecause I'm in the base.
So sometimes I enjoy justgetting out and driving by
(35:50):
myself And I'll sometimes, whenI'm driving by myself I'll rip
it, open it right up and have agreat time.
But sometimes I just hit a nicepace where I'm just enjoying it
, pushing it, but everythingwell within its limits.
And I was having a drive likethat and just came around a bend
and this small kangaroo bouncedup.
(36:12):
There was, the road had anembankment on the left hand side
and then a drop off on theright hand side, and he bounced
up from where the drop off wasand then started crossing the
road in front of me.
How big of a kangaroo He wasactually, i'd say, a medium size
, probably smallish, to behonest And so I swerved to the
(36:35):
right.
I don't know why I'm making thesteering movements as people
can see.
It helps me visualize.
So I swerved to the, swerved tothe right and jumped on the
brakes at the same time And hejust, he just cleared me, he
just got past me, but then histail, his tail clipped my front
(36:58):
left gun barrel headlight Andwhen I got home and I stopped
and I got out of the car to lookaround and he bounced off.
So you know, seemingly he wasOK.
He probably had a pretty soretail, as to be said, but when I
got home you should have seenhow scratched it was from his
(37:20):
tail, because I think his tailwas and it was all wet.
And so I think his tail was wetfrom the dew of the grass or
whatever, and had caught allthis gravel from the embankment
he'd just come up.
So he was just like amicrofiber towel that's been
dried on the road in the gravela few times and then just
(37:42):
whacked across the front of thecar.
But anyway, he was seemingly.
Seemingly he was OK.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
So if anyone, if anyone sees a now mature
kangaroo in the Victoria areawith a bent tail, you know what
happened to it A little Porschecrest hanging off the back of it
.
Poor guy was just probablytaking a taking a slash, that's
why it was gone back to him.
Yeah, i did.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
So now look little grain.
So there is some news on littlegrain.
When last we spoke, what wasthe status?
I think I'd mentioned how theshocks didn't get sent and then
did.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, you told me about the whole fiasco about you
know, the couriers and yourother mates broken, broken kit.
But yeah, so far I think youwere going to be out of pocket
because you weren't covered bywarranty and you were feeling a
bit down in the dumps about it.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, ok, so update.
When they did finally arrive,the word on the street was it's
OK, there's nothing wrong withthe shocks, so they're just
going to need a service, andthey'll be fine, so great.
Then turned out that wasn't thecase.
The left front shock, which wasthe one that I feared had an
(39:03):
issue, had a crack along one ofthe welds on the shock body, and
so when they rebuilt it, whenthey serviced it, it was just
leaking fluid out of this, outof this weld.
So needed a new shock bodyright.
So I'm thinking, oh great, sothis is going to take 10 days to
(39:23):
come out of Germany, i'm goingto have to pay for it.
It wasn't actually going to beoverly expensive, thankfully,
but well, and how much of theseoff the shelf each?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I mean, before you start talking installation
everything, we're talking acouple of grand at least, right?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
For a set of KWs.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah .
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I can't remember, but it's expensive.
It is.
It's an expensive upgrade.
I was pretty pissed that thisexpensive upgrade had had.
I would call it amanufacturer's fault.
Now it's not to say the car hashit potholes and stuff like that
It has.
Or kangaroos, yeah.
But I assume that amanufacturer that builds
(40:09):
products to that end, at thatstandard let's say, has to build
them to a certain amount oftolerance to be able to handle
some of these sorts of impacts.
Anyway, i got a call then frommy friend Tim at NineAuto the
next day and he said KW arecovering the shock body, you're
(40:30):
not going to be charged for it,no way, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, year and a half out of warranty.
And I said to him.
I said and this is where itgets really good, right?
I said, do I have you to thankfor that?
Because I thought maybe he'dgone and made representations on
my behalf and threatened tocrack some skulls.
He said listen.
I said to them and by them Imean the Australian distributor
(40:59):
I said to them it's a bit shitthat it's not covered by
warranty.
And they said yeah, it is.
We'll reach out to KW.
And KW said, yeah, no problem,let's send another one.
And everyone no one had to try.
There wasn't a whole bigpalaver or argument, or you know
.
Do you know who this guy is?
He'll expose you on his podcast.
(41:21):
There was none of that And, yeah, it sounds like everyone was
just willing to come to theparty.
And then the even better partof it is that I was still
expecting the shock body to beat least another week away in
transit And I got notificationstoday that it has arrived in
Sydney.
So we should actually have itback in Melbourne by Tuesday And
(41:45):
hopefully, james, hopefully.
I'll have a little green backby the end of next week.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh nice, Very nice.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, yeah, which is perfect timing.
Perfect timing because I have agap in my garage right now.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Come on, let's talk about it, let's rip off the
bandaid.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's our day today.
The GT4 is gone.
What?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, I knew.
Should I pretend like I didn'tknow?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Wait, tell me more.
Whoa, It's a Curb and Canyonexclusive.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It is Wow.
To be fair, though, i've onlyknown for a little while and I
haven't told anyone.
But, dude, i know how much youlike that car, so it's gone,
it's picked up.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, yeah, so it went.
today It's look, it's one ofthose things.
Right, it's just aboutpriorities And my intention was
never to hold on to that carlong term.
It certainly wasn't myintention to sell it this early
on, so I've had the car 11months, but yeah, like I say,
it's about priorities And rightnow having two Porsches just
(42:56):
didn't make sense in the currenteconomic climate.
I need to prioritize my businessand my family, some other stuff
.
So, yeah, totally, i wentthrough the process and thought
I tried to convince myself tokeep it and I just thought I
could, but it just wasn't theright moment to hold on to it.
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
And you know, OK, and you know, let's face it, you've
got a little green and that isarguably the better car in my
opinion.
Well, it's.
And I'm just not, I'm not justyour mate, trying to make you
feel better- No, it's a reallyinteresting point because I did
think I thought, ok, let's,let's.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Actually I forced myself to do, to go through the
mental exercise of maybe Ishould keep the GT4 and sell a
little grain.
I thought I've got to at leastconsider that right.
Yeah, absolutely.
That was the shortest 20 secondsof internal debate ever, but
(43:57):
partly because, look, if Idecided next week and I've said,
i said this when I sold the 991if I decided next week that I
wanted another GT4.
I can get another GT4.
If I decide next week that Iwant another 964.
I might be waiting six months,12 months, before I find the
(44:20):
right one.
So it's just not that simple.
In addition, because I've done,you know, we've just, we've
developed that car so much, theidea of starting that process
again, and not to mention thecost of that, i that just I
can't even conceive of that.
And and that car, that car, forme It answers more briefs than
(44:45):
the GT4 does.
Does it drive or perform to thelevel that the GT4 does?
No, but it is.
It's far more capable than onewould think for a car that's 33
years old.
It's, yeah, i think air cooledcars have a certain cool about
them that the the modern stuffdoesn't have.
(45:08):
They.
They're cool in a different way.
So, yeah, that was never reallyseriously a consideration.
I will say that I drove the GT4just on the weekend with with
some friends and I, yet again, iwas just amazed by how good
that car is, how capable it is,how easy it is to drive it at
(45:34):
pace and it's engaging.
There's there's a lot to likeabout GT4, is no doubt, and I do
think I reckon I'll haveanother one at some point,
because I yeah, there'sunfinished business there.
That was, it was a, it was acracking car and the you know,
the selling cars is alwaysinteresting, right, the the
(45:57):
transactions always tricky and Ihad sure I had a couple of
people contact me.
The first one had messaged methrough car sales, which is the.
You know, it's like I don'tbring a trailer or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Auto trade or auto yeah, because it's not an
auction.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Right, it's not an auction, you just advertise it
as a price.
And he was him.
He'd been messaging me and Ihadn't seen any of the messages,
but he was just low balling,low balling, low balling.
So I, when I finally saw themessages, i just said, hey,
listen, yeah, you know that thatsort of number I'm not
interested in, we're just youand I, just way too far apart
(46:34):
and you won't get a, you won'tget a GT4 for that number.
Then I had another guy call meand he said can I come and look
at the car?
and I said yeah, of course.
And he said I'm flying overfrom Western Australia, i'm
flying to Melbourne.
Okay, far out, he's serious.
So I agreed to meet him in thecar park of a pub where all good
(46:55):
deals are done.
And anyway he messages me.
He says I'm standing over nearthe entrance And all I can see
is this bent over old man andI'm like where, where is he?
and then I see this bent overold man looking at his mobile
phone when I message him backand I'm like, oh, wow, that's
(47:15):
him.
So he sort of hobbles overtowards me.
I'm not kidding, i reckon hewould have been 78 probably.
But he but.
But he rolled up in a very wellpatina, very well used Lotus
Exige And he was looking forsomething else.
(47:37):
And I said to him, he just hada vibe here, reminded me of some
of the people my dad used to gomotor racing with and I said,
paul, you got some, you got somemotor racing in your history.
And he said, yeah, i've stillgot a couple of Formula Fords.
And so he's this guy who's beenracing all his life.
And then he starts telling meabout all of these roads he had
driven just weeks before in hisLotus with his wife, and all the
(48:02):
roads are the roads that wedrive in Alpine Range Rally.
I don't know if.
I'm no way yeah, i don't know ifhe got the maps from Trev or
whether he just found themhimself, but yeah, he was saying
how him.
His wife comes with him.
She sits in the passenger seatof the Lotus, exige knitting
while he's driving.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
That skill right there and danger because I mean
a knitting needle in the eyeparticularly for kangaroo, jumps
out exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Anyway, look he, he, he didn't end up buying the car,
the bloke who had beenlowballing.
we finally came to the partywith some, some reasonable, some
reasonable numbers, and we toodidn't throw it a little bit,
because he was from Sydney Andand wanted to collect the car
rather than ship it to Sydney.
so I met him today, paymentswere taken and I watched him and
(49:00):
his brother drive away in thecar and he, he messaged me
That's happened, that's happenedthis morning.
yeah, did you not see themessage I sent you with the
little video footage and the sadface emoji?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
You do realize I've spent the past eight hours not
asleep in bed with screamingchildren.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I don't know.
I sent it like 10 hours ago.
We're in the middle of a messageconversation, you know.
So that.
So the two things, the tworeally sad moments were.
The first one was when Ibecause I wanted to retain the
license plate, the number plate,which is it's a personalized
(49:40):
plate, it doesn't look like onebut it's.
It's RSP 380, so it's rasp and3.8.
And so I had to put a standardlicense plate on it, and so I
got the cheapest genericVictorian number plate that you
can get and they're a reallyweird shape and they just white
with blue right.
They just look rubbish.
(50:01):
And when I put that on the carI thought this looks crap.
And then I took off, i had topeel off the last rasp sticker
on the on the rear windscreenand, and even after I wiped it a
bunch of times, there was youknow how you get ghosting, and
I'm like yeah, yeah, it's justit's just left its mark.
I'm just gonna leave it thereevery time he washes the car
(50:22):
he's gonna wonder.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, that's funny.
Every time I've sold a car withan auto amateur sticker on it,
i'd left the auto amateursticker on it, thinking that's
another one on the road.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Well, i kind of figured this guy I you know any
conversations I'd had with him.
He had no idea who I was or whoI what last rasp was, and I
didn't want him to.
You know, come back to me in amonth's time and say I've been
watching all your videos.
Looks like you drove the carpretty hard and Tasmania would
(50:54):
have been good to know thatbefore.
You know what I mean.
And so I just thought, yeah,i'll leave it, so anyway.
So look, good luck to him, ihope, i hope he enjoys it, i
hope he gets a lot of fun times.
And you know, i've beenphilosophical about it this
afternoon.
I thought about, i thought inhow you're about to accuse me of
being French here to.
In 11 months of ownership, i'veaveraged a thousand kilometers
(51:19):
per month, most of which.
How many miles is that, james?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Well, i'm just trying to figure out what part of it's
620 miles I reckon I've done620 miles a month.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
I wish I'd work out the kilometers of a thousand
miles no it's more like Eighthundred miles.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
hold on, stay there no.
Alexa, how much is 1000kilometers in miles?
Son of a bitch, 600 miles.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
well done there you go.
So, yeah, about 600 miles andmost of that driving was, you
know, in twisties, fun stuff.
I did Three day rally inTasmania in that car.
I just done your three dayrally Alpine Range rally in that
car.
So I've racked up Plenty ofsmiles and miles in that thing.
(52:17):
You know some of the bestdriving I've ever done in that
car.
So I, you know, i think aboutmy mate PJ in the way he thinks
about cars.
You, you don't collect the cars, you collect the experiences.
And yeah, i've had Had a greatexperience in that car.
So just now want to get littlegreen back in the garage And
move on to things.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
So your Porsche less for the next few days yes, right
now there's the tragedy rightnow.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
I'm gonna put my Jeep in the garage tonight.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
No, don't, just don't do it, don't.
How dare you put that you'vebeen the garage?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
what you still live in the garage I had.
I've owned that car for Sevenyears it was.
It was here before little greenwas, and then it was like it
got kicked out of the garage,right.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
So let's move on to our.
Let's move on to our new, newsegments.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
This is Porsche global outreach program yeah,
it's the Porsche connected vibemoments mates thing I want.
we should ask the listenerswhat we should call.
it Is clearly you know, i can'tcome up with anything good.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
So this is an interesting one, i feel this is
my one.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
I want you.
you gotta tell me about this,is this?
Speaker 2 (53:46):
your all right.
So I am the mate.
Yes, i know, so I'm all right.
So 18 months ago, lee Sibley ofthat podcast that we shall not
name because we name it toooften I think he put something
on social media about this guy,based in Ukraine, works for
(54:07):
Porsche.
He works for Porsche of Kiev.
I just sort of put a spotlighton him at the beginning of the
war when, when Russia invadedand, and it was just, you know,
very kind of nice, sort of hey,check out a fellow you know,
porsche enthusiast, living indifficult times.
(54:28):
So I followed him and I senthim a note saying, you know,
wishing you the best, blah, blah, blah.
And over the course of a year,year and a half, we've developed
quite a good friendship.
You know, we've been chattingevery couple of days and sharing
Videos of our cars, and youknow he's been watching all of
my videos and translating them.
(54:50):
You know it's a great, you know, whatever.
And it turns out he's got adaughter same age as my, my
middle son, adam.
So you know, we've been to theget on Porsche wise and we've
gotten on with the dad vibe andyou know, long story short, he's
increasingly feeling insecurebeing where he is, you know, in
(55:13):
the middle of a war zone.
And so we've, my wife Ruthieand I, we've sponsored him on a
two year visa to the US, him,his wife and his child, and
they're going to be arrivingactually tomorrow.
They're going to be arrivingtomorrow, i think, the day this
pod hopefully will will drop,and they're coming in from
(55:37):
Europe, they're arriving inMinneapolis.
They're you know, they'recoming with a single bag between
the three of them, i think, andthey're going to be living with
us for a couple of months whilewe help get them settled.
But this, this, this visaprogram or emergency visa
program, that the, theadministration, the federal
government, you know, put in ayear or so ago.
(55:59):
I didn't, i didn't realize itexisted.
And somebody, in fact my nextdoor neighbor, has done this for
a couple of Ukrainian children.
She's from Ukraine herself, infact, she, she grew up near
Chernobyl, and so she jokes thatshe glows in the dark, which I
think I'm not sure if I shouldlaugh at that or, you know,
(56:21):
maybe put a lead wall betweenher house and our house.
But yeah, yeah, they'rearriving tomorrow and we're like
super excited to meet them andthey're going to be staying in
our basement for at least acouple of weeks until we get
them settled with.
You know, all the things theyneed to do, like drivers
licenses, and find them a placeto live, and we are going to be
(56:45):
helping to find them work,helping to get down the little
girl into daycare, you know,hopefully the same one is, oh, i
guess kindergarten now.
I guess it's now the summer.
So, yeah, it feels it feelslike a really big thing to do.
It kind of feels like a strangething to do But at the same
time the fact that I can helpsomebody out like that it's,
(57:10):
it's mega.
And if, if I may, i'm channelingmy, my inner granddad here.
My, my granddad, ernie, was aprisoner of war in World War two
, captured in Greece, shippedoff to Austria and spent three
years basically walking aroundin his briefs in the snow eating
(57:31):
potatoes with the threat ofdeath every day.
And he came out of the war andgrowing up as a kid it was so
funny to see my grandmother kindof just pulling a hair out
because he would turn up withGermans, french, dutch, italians
, russians, who he bumped intoin the purple, you know
(57:54):
somewhere near where he lived,impressed in and invited them to
come and camp on his frontgarden.
You know, for days, at the timeYou just like a very, very open
, very welcoming kind of guy.
And when, when this opportunitycame along, i thought it just
made me think about my granddad,ernie.
So I thought, yeah, if I can dothis for a family, awesome.
So now I'm gonna have to tryand learn how to talk Porsche in
(58:18):
Ukrainian.
it's difficult, it's adifficult language.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
So I messaged you a couple days ago and said hey,
you're up, you gotta come upwith something for our Porsche
global outreach.
vibe friendship Connective handsconcept and you sent me that.
You sent me a messageexplaining this and my first
(58:45):
response was is he kidding?
and And but I?
there was something about thetone of your message that I
thought no, i think he's, ithink he's serious and I do not
gonna say I mean.
First of all, you know, youthink about me selling a car and
feeling a bit down in the dumpsabout it.
Talk about putting things intoperspective, right, look.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah he's?
Speaker 1 (59:09):
he's a guy worried about, you know, his future, the
future of his family, genuinelyconcerned for their own safety,
and rightly so.
Who needs to, who feelsdesperate enough to pack his
whole family up with one bag Andtravel across the world
somewhere, is never presumablynever been to set up some kind
(59:30):
of life there.
That's, you know, that's justmassive and, like I say, puts
things into perspective.
And then, on the flip side ofthat, i want to acknowledge you
and pay tribute to you for, andRuthie and your family for, what
you're doing.
I think it is just anincredible act and, yeah, i'm
(59:54):
actually blown away, man, ithink it's.
I think it's incredible.
Well done to you guys.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
Cheers bud appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah, it's feels like abig step, but it's gonna be
quite an adventure, more so forthem than us.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
But yeah, yeah, thank you, incredible, incredible.
All right, shall we finish withvideo of the week.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Let's do it.
I'm excited about this one.
When you sent it to me and Ijust thought what on earth?
what on earth is he doing?
know what?
so you want to talk us throughit?
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
So in 1981, the early 80s, late 70s, early 80s was a
time of superhero films and youknow, really it was Christopher
Reaver, superman that thatreally set the mold for
superhero movies And it set thebenchmark for them to aspire to.
(01:00:48):
you can argue some of them didit more successfully than others
, and it might be suggested thatthe 1981 film condor man didn't
quite reach the dizzyingheights of Christopher Reave in
Superman.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
However, has anyone heard of it?
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I don't know, i don't know.
I'm sure people had you heardof this film.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
No, but that was I have not heard of the film the
sequence that you sent me.
I have absolutely no clue whatit was.
I actually thought it was ajoke, but when I saw the actor
Michael Crawford sat in thefront seat, i just I couldn't
believe it.
I mean, he's the guy from somemothers do have them.
Right now he's playing thislike he's like a James Bond
(01:01:36):
superhero driving a fancy carRidiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
So I remember seeing this film on a family holiday
when I was obviously reallyyoung and I remember just
thinking it was amazing and Iremember this sequence because
he is in a kind of bright yellow.
Let's call it the condor man.
Rip off of the Batmobile, youknow, full of gadgets, is just
(01:02:04):
the stupidest thing you've everseen, with a rocket at the back
and all that sort of business.
But he's being chased by thissquad of what are they called
the, the KGB pursuit squad, andthey are driving.
There are four black 9 11's andthen a black 9 35 that the boss
guy drives.
(01:02:24):
Yeah yeah, and it's just.
It's actually a really goodsequence and the stunt
coordinator on that sequence isa was a French stunt coordinator
who worked on a lot of famouschase sequences in a lot of
films, and so it actually itplays pretty well, not to It
does?
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
How to use the.
He's like pushing all thebuttons randomly.
You know he's making that shit.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's ridiculous because you know you think about
James Bond right, like if he'sgonna shoot a cannon at the back
, he'll flick a little, switchthe cannon comes out and then
presses a button, it shoots,whereas he's got this like 1981.
It looks like a speaking spellor something where he's just
tapping random colored squaresfor like 30 seconds straight to
(01:03:29):
get this thing to fire.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
It's so dumb, oh my god.
And his co pilot.
The ladies sat there watchinghim intently, like, oh yes, he's
doing a really good job.
He's like he's protecting me.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
He knows exactly what he's doing and he's just there
like Yeah, how about eyes on theroad mate, because he's driving
this insanely tight, twistyroad and, as you pointed out,
which I didn't know, what is thename of the actress?
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
But Barbara Carrera, barbara Carrera, barbara, it's
not Barbara Carrera.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Barbara Carrera.
yeah, i love that, carrera,that's so good.
now it is hard to watch becausethe 935 makes it through this
sequence but none of the 911'sdo, sadly, they all, they all
meet somewhat fiery demise, butit is.
Where do you reckon that shot?
is that like Italy, do youthink?
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I don't know.
I would have thought SouthernCalifornia, that looks like
That's nice, not?
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
so it's because they go into a village and stuff like
that and I know the film.
I did do a bit of research onWikipedia because, again, i'm a
crack journalist and And theytalked about shooting in France,
spain, italy and a few otherplaces.
So yeah, it's.
(01:04:45):
I think it's somewhere inEurope.
Someone might know.
If you are that one person thathas gone deep on condo man and
know where the shootinglocations were, please let us
know.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
So this is now gonna put me in a tough spot, i think.
But wasn't Michael Crawfordlike one of the upcoming kind of
cool guys, action guys,potentially sort of the British
Steve McQueen at one point?
you know he was in this movie.
He was then no seriously.
He was in like a number ofdifferent things that were
(01:05:22):
supposed to be relativelyserious and relatively cool and
he ended up being known for Youknow some other stuff man who
says who, betty in some of thedrama.
Didn't he also play Phantom ofthe Opera in the West?
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
and he did.
Actually, that's true, he didplay Phantom of the Opera.
Forgot about that.
So I mean imagine being him.
He's.
I'm sure he probably went andstudied at the best drama school
.
He's probably a triple threat,right he can act he can sing, he
can dance You know all of thatand then he ends up on some
(01:05:57):
mothers do have them doing thatridiculous accent and the whole
the catchphrase.
You know he's basically What'shis name, ricky Gervais.
In what's the show?
is it having a laugh?
he's basically that characterAnd somehow he's a superman, a
superhero in this film.
I don't, i don't get it, butit's a bit of fun.
(01:06:19):
I think I think it's worth justsaying as well, just quickly
watch it on YouTube.
I'm not sure I'd commit thetime to watching the entire film
.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Just watch that sequence.
Well, my friend this has beenfun.
Good job, good job.
Watch out for those kangaroos.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
All right.
Well, do you know what?
before we do wrap it up, i dojust want to acknowledge and say
thank you to everybody who'sbeen posting on their Instagram
stories that you know photos ofthem listening to our episodes
in the car Although make sureyou keep both hands on the wheel
when you're taking photos whileyou're driving and the
wonderful comments we're gettingand the DMs that the people
(01:07:03):
send.
It's really.
It's really really encouraging,and we do want to keep bringing
you guys this content becausewe enjoy it, we love I mean, we
love these conversations.
I'm sure James wakes up in themorning and thinks I can't
believe I have to do this.
To be honest, i really wantedto go to bed right before this
started, but it's been theabsolute highlight of my day.
So I hope I hope you guys cantell how much we enjoy doing
(01:07:26):
this when you listen to it andhopefully you get a bit of that
out of it too.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Absolutely.
Thanks for checking in, guys.
See you in the next episode.
Take care, guys.
Bye.
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