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July 29, 2025 52 mins

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Was there real life Van Helsing?  Did Traci bend a spoon with her mind? Is Kathy channeling Zoolander? And who let the dogs out?? 

In this episode, Kathy and Traci tackle 80s TV nostalgia, “blue steel,” and the historical events that inspired Bram Stoker’s Van Helsing, werewolf stories, and more. 

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For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tour, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations and her intuition development course, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/


Timestamps & Highlights:

  • 00:00 – “Blue Steel”:
    Kathy’s secret weapon.
  • 02:03 – Cagney & Lacey &  Meg Foster:
    80s classic cop shows and was Meg Foster was told to wear contacts?
  • 05:48 Costco Fashion
    Say no more.
  • 10:48 – Humidity or Hell?: 
    Welcome to New Jersey!
  • 11:48 – Kathy’s Dogs and Scary Bunnies:
    Someone should never have watched, “Monty Python.”
  • 15:39 – Spoon Bending & Psychic Events:
    How to succeed at spoon bending, and a shoutout to Carmen and the power of intention.
  • 18:00 – Movie Talk: Red Lights & Paranormal Investigators:
    Why you should go see the film “Red Lights.” 
  • 21:00 – Mediumship, Ethics, and Evidence:
    What happens if a medium can’t read you? 
  • 23:45 – Van Helsing: Fact vs. Fiction:
    The real historical figures who inspired Van Helsing, the context of 18th and 19th-century Europe, and science vs. superstition.
  • 29:00 – Vampire Panics & Werewolf Trials:
    True stories of vampire panics, werewolf trials, and the evolution of supernatural beliefs.’
  • 36:00 - Van Helsing’s Legacy & Modern Paranormal Research
  • 1:10:00 – The Legacy of Van Helsing:
    How Van Helsing became a cultural archetype, and what he represents for modern paranormal investigators and scholars.
  • 44:00 – Is Sabrina a Familiar?:
    Sabrina is more than just a cat. Probably.


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