July 8, 2025 • 27 mins
Cut The Tie Podcast with Dr. Jeremy Weisz
What happens when your job title no longer reflects your passion—or your purpose? In this powerful episode of Cut The Tie, Thomas Helfrich sits down with Dr. Jeremy Weisz, a former chiropractor turned podcast strategist and co-founder of Rise25.
After spending two decades in a profession deeply tied to his personal identity, Jeremy made the bold decision to walk away from it completely. What followed was a transformation that included launching a B2B podcasting agency, finding true location independence, and rediscovering what success really means—on his terms.
About Dr. Jeremy Weisz:
Jeremy Weisz is the co-founder of Rise25, a B2B podcasting company that helps clients build strategic relationships and generate ROI through content. Formerly a chiropractor with a background in biochemistry, Jeremy pivoted after 15 years to turn his side hustle into a full-time business. Through his own show, Inspired Insider, and client work at Rise25, he empowers business owners to leverage podcasting as a tool for growth, connection, and long-term success.
In this episode, Thomas and Jeremy discuss:
- Cutting ties with a career—and identity
Jeremy shares the emotional and logistical journey of walking away from a 20-year chiropractic career and letting go of his professional license. - Why strategy always comes first
He breaks down why execution without a clear strategy is wasted effort, and how Rise25 helps clients focus on meaningful relationships over vanity metrics. - From 90-hour weeks to freedom and flexibility
Jeremy reflects on the intense work schedule that bridged the gap between two careers—and how that effort now gives him time freedom and presence with his family. - Redefining success through health and happiness
Success for Jeremy isn’t about money—it’s about health, happiness, and managing the “holes in the bucket” that drain joy from your life.
Key Takeaways:
- Your identity isn’t your profession
Letting go of a long-held title can open the door to more aligned, fulfilling work. - Strategy beats hustle—every time
Without a roadmap, execution becomes noise. Build with intention. - Relationships drive real ROI
Forget downloads. Focus on the people you meet, serve, and grow with. - Time freedom is worth the leap
Jeremy’s shift let him stop choosing between family and business—and start showing up for both. - The fastest way to connect is to give
Want to build meaningful relationships? Buy the book. Share the value. Offer help first.
Connect with Dr. Jeremy Weisz:
💼 LinkedIn: Dr. Jeremy Weisz
🌐 Website: www.rise25.com
🎧 Podcast: www.inspiredinsider.com
Connect with Thomas Helfrich:
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📘 Facebook: Cut the Tie Group
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🌐 Website: www.cutthetie.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Cut the Tie podcast.
Hi, I'm your host, thomasHelfrich.
We're on a mission to help youcut the tie to whatever it is
holding you back from success inyour life.
Now you define that success,and if you don't, then you're
chasing somebody else's, andtoday's guest is Jeremy Weiss.
Jeremy, how are you Thanks forhaving me Listen?
I love what you guys do.
Why don't you just take amoment and introduce yourself
(00:21):
and what your business does?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So I run Rise 25.
I'm a recovering chiropractor,actually, thomas.
My background is inbiochemistry.
As a chiropractor, I startedpodcasting 15 years ago and that
, by accident, turned into abusiness.
So Rise 25 helps businesseslaunch and run podcasts.
That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I love how for listening to everybody how he
gave that.
When someone asks you what youdo, that is you know.
For listening everybody how hegave that and someone asks you
what you do, that is most directanswer I've ever had.
It's like we know what we do.
We help businesses launchpodcasts, simple um.
What kind of business, by theway?
Is it?
Small, big, little?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
yeah, mostly b2b and, like I guess, I think of it as
helping people build dreamrelationships and it's on the
back of a podcast.
As you know, like you just,I've formed amazing
relationships on the podcast, soit's mostly B2B pot B2B.
We don't do comedy, true crime,sports podcasts.
It's B2B with the.
You know, usually it's in avery specific niche with a high
(01:17):
client lifetime value.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, and and, and.
I think that's importantbecause when, when any business
is out there, right, doingsomething, if you, even as
something as narrow aspodcasting, if you don't niche
down to exactly what it is, noone buys and you're like, you
know, we help B2B services,company meet, people, get brand
aware, all that, Like that'svery clear.
Yeah, I want to hire themversus, oh, we do true crime and
we do a sports one too.
It's like it's also impossibleto produce both.
(01:42):
It's a completely differentfeel, that, uh.
That being said, before we kindof get into this, I want you to
just to personally maybe tellme why because it's a
competitive space, tell me whypeople should pick you.
What's the unique, what makesyou you?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
yeah, I mean it's a good question.
I mean, I think, for for us,it's about three things.
It's the strategy, theaccountability and the
flexicution right, because ifsomeone's like, well, anyone
could talk into a mic and throwit up on YouTube, as you know,
there's a lot more that goesinto it.
So, after doing this, for youknow, 15 years, there's specific
things that a lot of we've madeevery mistake in the book at
(02:19):
this point, and so, really, it'sabout the strategy piece and
how.
What's the roadmap to creatingROI for a business?
Right?
And so, for us, we definitelytake a contrarian approach.
Right, because, as you may getthis too, thomas is like people
ask, well, how do I getdownloads and subscribers?
And that's actually the lastthing on our mind.
It's not about that, it's aboutforming amazing relationships,
(02:42):
and so it's goes tracks back tohaving the right strategy before
anything else is done.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
A hundred percent agree with you.
Now listen anybody listeninghere.
We focus on different things inthis show, but I think this is
so important for any.
Just extrapolate If you don'tfocus on the strategy first,
you're going to sound and belike everyone else, and I know
in our own.
When I launched a podcast a fewyears ago called AI Nerd it was
the first YouTube channel Imonetized.
No clue, zero clue what I wasdoing Abandoned it right before
(03:12):
anyway GPT probably a mistake,but here's why is because I had
access to you could always pickit back up, right?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, it sounds like you were like right at the
right spot almost at the exactright time.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
My background is consulting AI.
I was here's why I didn't.
I had access to OpenAI's betathree years prior to GPT
becoming what you guys everyoneknows as GPT, so I was out there
talking about what it could doand YouTube kept flagging me for
misleading or false content.
So I couldn't get a show outwithout it getting flagged and I
just got frustrated and quit.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Can we still watch those early shows, or no?
Yeah, I'm fatter with more hair.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So you'll check it out.
What's this podcast interviewis my first shot at it, but now
I look at it.
Yeah, I could pick it back up,but what would I do?
And so for this podcast, welaunched it and I think this is
important.
The strategy was specificallyyear one let's build presence.
So we're going to chargeeveryone to come on the show,
but we're going to give it allback to them to go get a mini
(04:08):
subscriber.
We could go on YouTube andbuild, but never buy a follow,
never buy a download, never buya view.
And we did that and we got top5% global podcast on the
listeners notes and did themillions of subscribers.
That was a business strategy.
This year I said we're chargingno one and we'll let people
promote their show on a pay whatyou want model and we'll only
make it where people really wantto get into it.
(04:28):
Because we have so muchinterest coming in, 95% of the
people take the option becauseit's an absolute no brainer to
go from audio to a millionpeople on YouTube.
Anyway, the point is realstrategy worked and so I
presented that at podcast.
So I so I love what you'redoing.
Um, so people have a frameworkas they're listening here.
Shameless plug really quickly.
How would they get a hold ofyou?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
and then we'll talk about your journey here in a
minute yeah, and like I'm allabout giving thomas, so like you
can check out rise25.com, butmy podcast is inspiredinsidercom
and there's lots of freecontent.
If you search podcast, you knowyou can find all the episodes
we've.
We've produced everything forfree so people can consume it
from you.
Know what software mic do I use?
(05:07):
You know how do I launch apodcast so you can contact.
There's a contact form on bothof those and you can message me
there or on LinkedIn.
I'm on LinkedIn pretty muchevery day too.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Love it.
Let's start with you.
How do you define success?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I define success really well, one I think of
health right off the bat, right,I think you know my background
is like, like I said, isbiochemistry and chiropractor,
and I feel like if I don't havehealth, or people that I know
don't have health, they don'thave anything else, it doesn't
matter how much money, and so Idefine it with health and
happiness.
So what makes people happy?
(05:44):
The one of my favorite books isthe art of happiness by the
dalai lama, and it reallychanged my view on success and
it's really that health andhappiness combined, yeah, and
like, the man with his healthhas a million dreams, the man
without has only but one.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Exactly, and it's really true.
If you've ever, like, justsprained an ankle, all you think
about is I hope his ankle stopshurting tomorrow.
Um, it's really true.
If you've ever, like, justsprained an ankle, all you think
about is I hope his ankle stopshurting tomorrow.
Um, a hundred percent in it.
And what I have found and I, itchanges with time and so what
you're?
You know, it's money early,it's finding a girl later, it's
whatever.
It is right.
It does definitely involves.
I think the important thing isto find it for yourself in that
(06:23):
moment, and then you gotsomething you can actually chase
, would be proud of.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, I mean, I know people with more money than
generations can do with andthey're just not happy, right,
and so, and it's just for meabout that, those two things.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I mean I look at, happiness is not so much the
inputs that make me happy.
I give the bucket example.
Like you have a Home Depotbucket, the big one, and you got
your porn stuff in there to bea nice house, nice car,
vacations, savings, kids,whatever, right, and at the
(07:02):
bottom is holes cost of themortgage, cost of the car, cost
of the kids and their attitudes.
The bigger those holes are, theworse your happiness is,
because if you have no holes,you don't have to put a whole
lot to fill that bucket, and Ithink that's.
Managing the things that makeyou unhappy matters actually
more than the things you putinto it.
I don't, that's so.
I like metaphors.
I love that analogy.
Yeah, totally, you can take it.
I didn't, I made it.
I say Home Depot because I havea bucket out there with a hole
in it and it's prostrate.
(07:23):
You're doing tiling.
Anyway, on your journey though,you've had to kind of metaphoric
tie, so to speak.
So maybe talk about yourjourney a bit.
And what tie did you have tocut to achieve that happiness?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean, we were talking a little before you're
recording and I was thinkinglike what would that be?
I mean, for me?
You know, for a long time myidentity was a chiropractor,
right?
Uh, my dad suffered with reallybad pain and I decided to
explore that when I was in highschool, worked for the
chiropractor that helped him, um, and so I've been in this
chiropractic world even since Iwas, you know, 16.
(08:00):
And so the decision to actuallynot practice anymore, which is
tied to my identity I mean a lotof people's that what they do
for a living is their identity.
You know, it was very, veryclosely tied together and I
decided to.
Um, you know, for a lot ofreasons that I was going to
(08:24):
pursue, you know, I had clientsin this podcasting thing and I
decided, okay, because for along time I was doing both and
the schedule was crazy, right, Iwas like seeing patients for I
was doing podcast, you know, theRise 25 stuff maybe from like
seven to nine, and seeingpatients from nine to 12, 12 to
three in the middle of the day.
In between, I was doing rise 25stuff, three to six or seven, I
(08:46):
was doing chiropractic stuff,and then, you know, maybe seven
to eight I was doing the rise 25.
And then maybe from 11 PM tilltwo or three in the morning I
was doing rise.
So like the day was crazy and Ijust couldn't do it anymore.
Like I had to choose one rightand there were a number of
factors that led me to go withthe podcasting one over the
(09:09):
chiropractic one.
It was a tough decision and I,like you said, kind of it's not
even a metaphor cutting the tie,like literally my license is
inactive.
Also, I don't have to do thecontinuing ed, so I don't plan
on making it active anytime soon.
And my daughter jokes aroundwhen I adjust her, like, uh, I
don't know if I'm going to letyou adjust me because your
(09:29):
license is an actor.
But don't worry, I think I havea couple of decades under my
belt here.
But it was a tough decision andit kind of throws people for a
loop when the people in my, myold world they're like, wait,
what You're not practicinganymore?
And you know always judgment,like I don't care, but there's
(09:50):
judgment, a little bit judgmentaround it.
Um, but it's fine.
I think there was uh that itserved its purpose for that
amount of time and but it was ahard decision to make.
You know, I spent a lot ofhours, time, money in that yeah
right it's one of the hardestties to cut is the, the social.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know the sting of social lot of hours, time,
money in that, yeah Right, it'sone of the hardest ties to cut
is the, the social.
You know the sting of socialstatus, the sting of the vested
time, money, the certainty ofhey, I know I'll make this much
money, the drawback to dad, likeall those things are that's, I
mean, that's a major tie to cut,like in in your identity, is
wrapped up in what you do inlife and I don't think anybody
should fight it.
Your work and your life areconnected.
(10:26):
If you're not happy in one,you're not happy in the other.
Typically and good for you,because that is by far the
hardest one it comes back to dowhat I call like the three Ps.
Right, there's the passion,your potential, which are your
skills, and then there's theproblem you solve.
Well, if any one of those threebubbles gets small for you,
passion went down it sounds likeon chiropractor and it went
(10:46):
huge on podcasting and you hadequal, maybe, skills and
problems you were solving, the,the, the one, the one without
the passion, goes away.
It's, it will be consumed by abigger passion and if you fight
that.
That's a hole in the bucket, soto speak.
So good for you of doing it.
Do you remember the moment, theaha moment, when you're like I
am definitely doing this, I'mdone?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You know, I don't know if there's a moment, it's
kind of like death by a thousandpaper cuts type of situation,
right, and.
But you know my, we lived inthe city and my office was a 12
block walk, um, and then wemoved to the suburbs when we had
kids and so my commute wentfrom like a very short walk to
(11:31):
an hour plus in traffic.
So, um, I justify that for me.
I think I did that commute forI don't know 10 years or
something like that, but I waslike listening to five or six
audio books a week.
So I was justifying it there.
I was making, like you know,five to 10 calls in the morning,
on the way there and then onthe way back, and but it was
(11:53):
like became a drag to do that,right, um, and so there wasn't a
moment but, but definitely, Iwould say, and eventually I put
a chiropractor in my office totreat patients, um, but still I
still had to go and manage itand I still had to kind of be in
(12:15):
there, and it was just that, Iguess, for me it became this
location, independence becamevery important to me with that
drag of a commute and everythinglike that.
So covid definitely acceleratedthat a little bit.
Um, because we actually went toarizona and lived there for
(12:39):
three months and I was like thisis awesome, wait, yeah, I mean
being from the chicago winter,if anyone suffered through that
before you're like, just likeyou when you get to warm weather
and you're looking at becauseyou always look at chicago's
weather.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We live from st louis , live in atlanta, still go ha
you know, then in the summerflip.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Oh, it's 105 there, right now I've lived in st louis
and the winters are very mild.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I compare to chicago, anyways are but they're
miserable because there's likeit's rainy, it's cold, there's
nothing to do, and then thewhole city in the summer is a
million degrees.
So there's still nothing to doanyway it's.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So I got a taste of yeah, um, living in 70 degree
weather during december and Iwas like, well, this, this seems
good, exactly so it'sdefinitely.
There was a lot of things thatbuilt up over time.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, no, listen, it's over time.
And then it's like okay, am Irenewing this license or not?
And you're like you know what?
I'm gonna let it go.
Uh, and it usually has to havesome clients.
I love that you bridged one tothe other.
Stress at home, the stress oneto the other.
Stress at home, the stress inlife, goes way down If you're
not forced into it.
I was laid off and they're likeI gotta do something.
No one's going to hire me, um,but I love that.
(13:52):
Uh, can you tell me about thehow?
So it's one thing to know whatsuccess is, it's another to feel
the journey, the thousand cuts,and then be like, hey, I'm
doing it.
Then comes the execution ofactually doing it.
Yeah, can you give me a coupleminutes on how you made that
move?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean the how is over time I was like, obviously,
if I'm going to make a shift,it was like overnight to some
people.
It seemed like overnight tosome people that I was like a
chiropractor and then I had aseparate business, rise 25.
Me, as I kind of described myschedule for many years, the how
(14:24):
is really just working 70 to 90hour weeks to make.
So that transition is likeseamless Right, and so that's
really what it was.
It was building on and I didn'tdo that on purpose.
Like people were coming to measking me to help them with the
podcast, like you said, I wasjust kind of open to the
opportunity.
(14:44):
I didn't say no, I'm busy withthis other thing.
I kept open to that opportunityand so I had been taking on
clients and we, you know, allour team was remote, so
obviously I didn't have peoplelike in Chicago in an office.
Everyone was kind of workingremotely, but it was really just
building up somethingseparately.
(15:05):
And my business partner mybusiness partner through
podcasting and he also hadexperience with that.
Thomas, he was a speechwriterat the White House and an
attorney, and so he callshimself a recovering attorney.
He was practicing, but both ofthey came from service
professional businesses to whatwe're doing now.
(15:27):
And so that, how was just Ithink you said it before which
was just being open to what wascoming my way, accepting that
and then just putting in thetime and making it happen?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
you're uh, you're describing something really
important to uh, and I think ifyou, if anybody's heard his
brand, which he's you, do you do.
I'm going to tie it back tosomething you said earlier.
He said people hire us becausewe're really on the strategic
side and then anybody can do theexecution.
But if you're executing thewrong strategy, you're kind of
wasting money, and you're not.
You're wasting money in time.
All I heard there is that thisguy took a strategy, executed it
(16:05):
, put the hard fricking work inand then, when it was right,
moved it.
So I believe your strategydifferentiator more than ever
now, because you did it in yourlife and you did it in a moment
when most people are in a forestand they cannot see any trees
around them and you're like, no,I need to do it this way, for
whatever reasons, we don't, itdoesn't even matter.
You just did it the right, sogood for you.
I think that sings verystrongly to the brand of which
(16:26):
you built with a rise up.
You know, rise 25.
So give me a second though.
What's the impact?
So you've made the move, you'rethrough the woods.
Now you're looking back at yourbeautiful land you've created.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Now what's what's been the impact to you, your
family, your clients yeah, Imean there's there's
professional and and there'spersonal, um, from a also the
personal side.
I mean that's, I think, adriving force which is I used to
if I commute from the city.
It was tough to because youknow it's hard to do virtual
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chiropractic right.
You can't like adjust peoplethrough zoom and the couch now
lean back exactly there's asimpsons episode on it where he
leans over a garbage can, but Idon't think that counts.
Um, you know, I'd have toreally sacrifice, choose, really
choose family or business,because if the kids had like a
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recital or a dance show, I I'dbe like, okay, I have to leave
like an hour and a half early,it's rush hour.
I may have to leave at three,the prime time of seeing
patients, maybe after they comeand work, and now I could really
work from anywhere.
I do an office that's likeeight minutes away from me and I
could just roll out and makeall of their events that I need
(17:42):
to, and so that was personallyfulfilling.
I just I think about that everytime.
One of them just had like a, um, a chorus recital the other
week and I was like thinkingsitting there, like I'd have to
basically um, sacrifice incometo be here before, and now I
could just be here, right, andso that was.
(18:04):
That was big for me from aprofessional standpoint.
It was a different differencebetween like a b2c business and
a b2b business, and like the b2cbusiness with, you know, anyone
would come in off the street,right, and we'd see them.
It was very interesting, um,but it also was kind of nice.
Just I'm talking to businessesall day long and get to
(18:27):
strategize on what I think isthe most important part of
business, which is relationshipsand helping people make those
connections and reinforce theiractual relationships.
Right, so, like a lot of times,people including myself
sometimes we take relationshipsfor granted.
Businesses realize, likethere's people on your phone,
(18:51):
there's people in your emailthat you haven't, that are
important to you, that evenrefer you business that you
haven't engaged with in like sixmonths or a year and making a
difference, because onerelationship can make a huge
difference.
People form mentorships, theyformed referral partners,
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strategic partners, through whatwe teach them and that one
relationship could make theirbusiness, like, exponentially
better yeah, absolutely what hewas grateful for um, I mean I am
grateful for health, my health,like you know, just keeping up
with it.
I mean I do have a stringentroutine around health, so it's
(19:34):
not necessarily lucky, but thereis genes that factor into the
luck.
And then just my family.
I mean my wife has been reallysupportive with everything Right
.
And so I think back, I'm like Idon't know how she endured some
of the scheduling that I hadaround it, but she did and has
been really supportive.
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And then John Corker, mybusiness partner.
He's in the trenches with meand he's four kids under 13.
So he's got a lot that he'smanaging on the family front.
But just continuing to pushforward with what our mission is
, that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Let's sum it up for me.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, let's sum it up for me.
What's the advice you're goingto give to a listener?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean my advice, thomas, in anything and I was
talking to my kids about this islike one I try and be as
coachable as humanly possibleand listen and find the experts
who have been there and donethat in every facet of my life.
So you know, if I'm strugglingwith something finding a mentor,
finding a coach in thatspecific thing, because that
(20:42):
time leaps you.
There's a good friend atO'Keefe who wrote Time
Collapsing you, at leastleapfrog me, okay, and cut the
time, money and energy of Iwould.
I would have spent learning it,trying it with someone who
already knows the path.
So that's been the biggest forme is just finding that coach
(21:03):
and mentor in that specificthing I'm trying to solve yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It also sometimes talks you out of something you
thought it might do, like, oh,I'm, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Um, it's, and that usually isfree because you'll meet with
the coach, he'll explain whatyou're gonna have to go do and
you're like, oh yeah, I'm notgonna hire you because I'm not
gonna go this route.
So, and that's a emotional, uh,monetary everything, health,
when you avoid those in life.
So I did.
(21:28):
I could not agree more withthat piece.
Some rapid fire questions foryou.
Who gives you inspiration?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, I get inspiration from different books
.
Like I'm listening to three tofive books per week on Audible
and so depending on what I'minterested in really, I mean I
love Tony Robbins stuff actually.
That basically is a greatperspective and there's a lot of
other books that I'm justhearing.
(21:58):
That grounds me.
The four agreements is one Ilistened to every year and it's
kind of grounds me on what'simportant.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I love that and you you kind of answer more of my
other questions, which, whichbook you'd recommend is a must
read.
Uh, do you have any others thatare like?
You know, if you're going tohave one book in your life, this
is the one.
Maybe round business.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, I mean listen, uh, I love Dale Carnegie books.
Um, how to win friends andinfluence people.
This past year I kind of create, wanted to create a book club
of all the education I wish Iwould have gotten when I was in
junior high, and so I gave it tomy daughters.
I'm like I go, I'm gonna payyou if you read these books.
I'm gonna pay you and obviouslyyou read it.
(22:38):
You have to give me a summaryof it and one one thing you're
applying to it that you knowthey're gonna go gb team like
here it is dad yeah, exactly, Igot it down um, so how to win
friends, influence people.
It's all about relationships, um, you know, adam, all the
relationship books.
Adam grants book, give and takeis one of my favorites.
John Rulon, um a rest in peace.
(22:58):
Uh, giftology, um is one of myfavorite books, like all those
books on relationships, cause Ithink that is kind of the
foundation, uh, and how I think.
Yeah, you know if you had tostart over you know, and you can
(23:22):
go back to any part in yourtimeline.
When would you go back and whatwould you do differently?
Where would I be?
But I'm thinking then, the theother side of my shoulder,
there's the angel and the devil.
Right.
It's like, oh, you should have,just you know, majored in
business.
You'd be so much further alongin the business career or doing
some kind of cool path.
(23:42):
But then the angel's like youknow what, like that's the
reason, what shaped you withwhat you are and what you did.
And so I'm like, yeah, and Iwouldn't have learned all this
health stuff that I can apply tomyself and my friends and my
family to better my health.
So part of that is I'm alwaystorn Like was that good, was it
(24:03):
not good?
But going back, I'm like Iguess it shaped who.
I am Right.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Exactly, and it's it's things were done for you,
not to you, and it's just amindset shift and if you read
any Dalai Lama stuff, as youknow, it's all right there.
Just things are happening whenthey're supposed to, and but
also it's the influencedownstream you know, and so you
know what you can do for yourkids.
So I think there's some piecesyou take from that.
I can better my kid's life by X, y and Z.
If there's a question today, Ishould have asked you and did
(24:30):
not what would that questionhave been and how do you answer
it?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I mean I think you asked it.
Really.
I mean, the most importantthing to me is, um, I guess one
thing is people will ask me howdo I get in touch with this
person or that person?
They're trying to connect withsomeone for whatever reason some
VIP, maybe it's a partner,maybe it's a potential client
(24:56):
and the fastest?
I was thinking there's a lot ofways to do it for free, right,
you know, and give to people,but the fastest way I've seen it
happen is just buy their stuff.
I mean when I look at people,you know, like there was someone
who I really respect and likeand I'm like, well, how do I get
ahold of this?
I'm like, listen, I'm justgoing to literally buy
(25:17):
everything that they have, ifthey have books, if they have
audio, if they have a program,if they have a conference, and I
just literally bought all theirstuff, right, I mean.
So it depends Like obviouslythere's free ways to do it and
to give that person, but toleapfrog.
I have found supporting thatperson and buying their stuff
(25:38):
actually is a great way to justhire.
Hire someone like as aconsultant, like I'm trying to
get them to hire them for as aconsultant for an hour, like I
want to pay you, thomas, for anhour of your time.
You to be like I don't want totalk to you, like, okay, cool.
Like I want yeah.
So just how do you leapfrogwith relationships?
(26:00):
I'm always thinking about howdo I give?
It's a giving thing, right, soit's an altruistic based
approach to serving Listen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Thank you, you rock.
I mean, I would expect nothingless from a person who who runs
a podcast Fantastic.
Thank you Once again, Dr JeremyWeiss.
Thanks for coming on how andwho should get ahold of you.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean listen.
You can get ahold of me onLinkedIn, rise25.com or
inspiredinsidercom, and if youhave questions about
relationships, about podcasting,you know, just message me, I'm
happy to help.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Thank you once again so much for coming on today.
I'll let you say goodbye, buthe's so pro he didn't even say
goodbye.
He's like you know.
I've already said it, I'll messwith it.
Listen, everybody who made itthis part in the show, you rock
for getting here and if this isyour first time, I hope it's the
first of many.
If you've been here before, Ihope you're cutting ties.
I hope you're doing whatever ittakes for you to achieve that
(26:59):
success that you've defined foryourself.
Get after it.
Go get it.
Thanks for listening.
Welcome to Cut the Tie podcast.
Hi, I'm your host, thomasHelfrich.
We're on a mission to help youcut the tie to whatever it is
holding you back from success inyour life.
Now you define that success,and if you don't, then you're
chasing somebody else's, andtoday's guest is Jeremy Weiss.
Jeremy, how are you Thanks forhaving me Listen?
I love what you guys do.
Why don't you just take amoment and introduce yourself
(00:21):
and what your business does?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So I run Rise 25.
I'm a recovering chiropractor,actually, thomas.
My background is inbiochemistry.
As a chiropractor, I startedpodcasting 15 years ago and that
, by accident, turned into abusiness.
So Rise 25 helps businesseslaunch and run podcasts.
That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I love how for listening to everybody how he
gave that.
When someone asks you what youdo, that is you know.
For listening everybody how hegave that and someone asks you
what you do, that is most directanswer I've ever had.
It's like we know what we do.
We help businesses launchpodcasts, simple um.
What kind of business, by theway?
Is it?
Small, big, little?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
yeah, mostly b2b and, like I guess, I think of it as
helping people build dreamrelationships and it's on the
back of a podcast.
As you know, like you just,I've formed amazing
relationships on the podcast, soit's mostly B2B pot B2B.
We don't do comedy, true crime,sports podcasts.
It's B2B with the.
You know, usually it's in avery specific niche with a high
(01:17):
client lifetime value.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, and and, and.
I think that's importantbecause when, when any business
is out there, right, doingsomething, if you, even as
something as narrow aspodcasting, if you don't niche
down to exactly what it is, noone buys and you're like, you
know, we help B2B services,company meet, people, get brand
aware, all that, Like that'svery clear.
Yeah, I want to hire themversus, oh, we do true crime and
we do a sports one too.
It's like it's also impossibleto produce both.
(01:42):
It's a completely differentfeel, that, uh.
That being said, before we kindof get into this, I want you to
just to personally maybe tellme why because it's a
competitive space, tell me whypeople should pick you.
What's the unique, what makesyou you?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
yeah, I mean it's a good question.
I mean, I think, for for us,it's about three things.
It's the strategy, theaccountability and the
flexicution right, because ifsomeone's like, well, anyone
could talk into a mic and throwit up on YouTube, as you know,
there's a lot more that goesinto it.
So, after doing this, for youknow, 15 years, there's specific
things that a lot of we've madeevery mistake in the book at
(02:19):
this point, and so, really, it'sabout the strategy piece and
how.
What's the roadmap to creatingROI for a business?
Right?
And so, for us, we definitelytake a contrarian approach.
Right, because, as you may getthis too, thomas is like people
ask, well, how do I getdownloads and subscribers?
And that's actually the lastthing on our mind.
It's not about that, it's aboutforming amazing relationships,
(02:42):
and so it's goes tracks back tohaving the right strategy before
anything else is done.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
A hundred percent agree with you.
Now listen anybody listeninghere.
We focus on different things inthis show, but I think this is
so important for any.
Just extrapolate If you don'tfocus on the strategy first,
you're going to sound and belike everyone else, and I know
in our own.
When I launched a podcast a fewyears ago called AI Nerd it was
the first YouTube channel Imonetized.
No clue, zero clue what I wasdoing Abandoned it right before
(03:12):
anyway GPT probably a mistake,but here's why is because I had
access to you could always pickit back up, right?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, it sounds like you were like right at the
right spot almost at the exactright time.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
My background is consulting AI.
I was here's why I didn't.
I had access to OpenAI's betathree years prior to GPT
becoming what you guys everyoneknows as GPT, so I was out there
talking about what it could doand YouTube kept flagging me for
misleading or false content.
So I couldn't get a show outwithout it getting flagged and I
just got frustrated and quit.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Can we still watch those early shows, or no?
Yeah, I'm fatter with more hair.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So you'll check it out.
What's this podcast interviewis my first shot at it, but now
I look at it.
Yeah, I could pick it back up,but what would I do?
And so for this podcast, welaunched it and I think this is
important.
The strategy was specificallyyear one let's build presence.
So we're going to chargeeveryone to come on the show,
but we're going to give it allback to them to go get a mini
(04:08):
subscriber.
We could go on YouTube andbuild, but never buy a follow,
never buy a download, never buya view.
And we did that and we got top5% global podcast on the
listeners notes and did themillions of subscribers.
That was a business strategy.
This year I said we're chargingno one and we'll let people
promote their show on a pay whatyou want model and we'll only
make it where people really wantto get into it.
(04:28):
Because we have so muchinterest coming in, 95% of the
people take the option becauseit's an absolute no brainer to
go from audio to a millionpeople on YouTube.
Anyway, the point is realstrategy worked and so I
presented that at podcast.
So I so I love what you'redoing.
Um, so people have a frameworkas they're listening here.
Shameless plug really quickly.
How would they get a hold ofyou?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
and then we'll talk about your journey here in a
minute yeah, and like I'm allabout giving thomas, so like you
can check out rise25.com, butmy podcast is inspiredinsidercom
and there's lots of freecontent.
If you search podcast, you knowyou can find all the episodes
we've.
We've produced everything forfree so people can consume it
from you.
Know what software mic do I use?
(05:07):
You know how do I launch apodcast so you can contact.
There's a contact form on bothof those and you can message me
there or on LinkedIn.
I'm on LinkedIn pretty muchevery day too.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Love it.
Let's start with you.
How do you define success?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I define success really well, one I think of
health right off the bat, right,I think you know my background
is like, like I said, isbiochemistry and chiropractor,
and I feel like if I don't havehealth, or people that I know
don't have health, they don'thave anything else, it doesn't
matter how much money, and so Idefine it with health and
happiness.
So what makes people happy?
(05:44):
The one of my favorite books isthe art of happiness by the
dalai lama, and it reallychanged my view on success and
it's really that health andhappiness combined, yeah, and
like, the man with his healthhas a million dreams, the man
without has only but one.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Exactly, and it's really true.
If you've ever, like, justsprained an ankle, all you think
about is I hope his ankle stopshurting tomorrow.
Um, it's really true.
If you've ever, like, justsprained an ankle, all you think
about is I hope his ankle stopshurting tomorrow.
Um, a hundred percent in it.
And what I have found and I, itchanges with time and so what
you're?
You know, it's money early,it's finding a girl later, it's
whatever.
It is right.
It does definitely involves.
I think the important thing isto find it for yourself in that
(06:23):
moment, and then you gotsomething you can actually chase
, would be proud of.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, I mean, I know people with more money than
generations can do with andthey're just not happy, right,
and so, and it's just for meabout that, those two things.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I mean I look at, happiness is not so much the
inputs that make me happy.
I give the bucket example.
Like you have a Home Depotbucket, the big one, and you got
your porn stuff in there to bea nice house, nice car,
vacations, savings, kids,whatever, right, and at the
(07:02):
bottom is holes cost of themortgage, cost of the car, cost
of the kids and their attitudes.
The bigger those holes are, theworse your happiness is,
because if you have no holes,you don't have to put a whole
lot to fill that bucket, and Ithink that's.
Managing the things that makeyou unhappy matters actually
more than the things you putinto it.
I don't, that's so.
I like metaphors.
I love that analogy.
Yeah, totally, you can take it.
I didn't, I made it.
I say Home Depot because I havea bucket out there with a hole
in it and it's prostrate.
(07:23):
You're doing tiling.
Anyway, on your journey though,you've had to kind of metaphoric
tie, so to speak.
So maybe talk about yourjourney a bit.
And what tie did you have tocut to achieve that happiness?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean, we were talking a little before you're
recording and I was thinkinglike what would that be?
I mean, for me?
You know, for a long time myidentity was a chiropractor,
right?
Uh, my dad suffered with reallybad pain and I decided to
explore that when I was in highschool, worked for the
chiropractor that helped him, um, and so I've been in this
chiropractic world even since Iwas, you know, 16.
(08:00):
And so the decision to actuallynot practice anymore, which is
tied to my identity I mean a lotof people's that what they do
for a living is their identity.
You know, it was very, veryclosely tied together and I
decided to.
Um, you know, for a lot ofreasons that I was going to
(08:24):
pursue, you know, I had clientsin this podcasting thing and I
decided, okay, because for along time I was doing both and
the schedule was crazy, right, Iwas like seeing patients for I
was doing podcast, you know, theRise 25 stuff maybe from like
seven to nine, and seeingpatients from nine to 12, 12 to
three in the middle of the day.
In between, I was doing rise 25stuff, three to six or seven, I
(08:46):
was doing chiropractic stuff,and then, you know, maybe seven
to eight I was doing the rise 25.
And then maybe from 11 PM tilltwo or three in the morning I
was doing rise.
So like the day was crazy and Ijust couldn't do it anymore.
Like I had to choose one rightand there were a number of
factors that led me to go withthe podcasting one over the
(09:09):
chiropractic one.
It was a tough decision and I,like you said, kind of it's not
even a metaphor cutting the tie,like literally my license is
inactive.
Also, I don't have to do thecontinuing ed, so I don't plan
on making it active anytime soon.
And my daughter jokes aroundwhen I adjust her, like, uh, I
don't know if I'm going to letyou adjust me because your
(09:29):
license is an actor.
But don't worry, I think I havea couple of decades under my
belt here.
But it was a tough decision andit kind of throws people for a
loop when the people in my, myold world they're like, wait,
what You're not practicinganymore?
And you know always judgment,like I don't care, but there's
(09:50):
judgment, a little bit judgmentaround it.
Um, but it's fine.
I think there was uh that itserved its purpose for that
amount of time and but it was ahard decision to make.
You know, I spent a lot ofhours, time, money in that yeah
right it's one of the hardestties to cut is the, the social.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know the sting of social lot of hours, time,
money in that, yeah Right, it'sone of the hardest ties to cut
is the, the social.
You know the sting of socialstatus, the sting of the vested
time, money, the certainty ofhey, I know I'll make this much
money, the drawback to dad, likeall those things are that's, I
mean, that's a major tie to cut,like in in your identity, is
wrapped up in what you do inlife and I don't think anybody
should fight it.
Your work and your life areconnected.
(10:26):
If you're not happy in one,you're not happy in the other.
Typically and good for you,because that is by far the
hardest one it comes back to dowhat I call like the three Ps.
Right, there's the passion,your potential, which are your
skills, and then there's theproblem you solve.
Well, if any one of those threebubbles gets small for you,
passion went down it sounds likeon chiropractor and it went
(10:46):
huge on podcasting and you hadequal, maybe, skills and
problems you were solving, the,the, the one, the one without
the passion, goes away.
It's, it will be consumed by abigger passion and if you fight
that.
That's a hole in the bucket, soto speak.
So good for you of doing it.
Do you remember the moment, theaha moment, when you're like I
am definitely doing this, I'mdone?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You know, I don't know if there's a moment, it's
kind of like death by a thousandpaper cuts type of situation,
right, and.
But you know my, we lived inthe city and my office was a 12
block walk, um, and then wemoved to the suburbs when we had
kids and so my commute wentfrom like a very short walk to
(11:31):
an hour plus in traffic.
So, um, I justify that for me.
I think I did that commute forI don't know 10 years or
something like that, but I waslike listening to five or six
audio books a week.
So I was justifying it there.
I was making, like you know,five to 10 calls in the morning,
on the way there and then onthe way back, and but it was
(11:53):
like became a drag to do that,right, um, and so there wasn't a
moment but, but definitely, Iwould say, and eventually I put
a chiropractor in my office totreat patients, um, but still I
still had to go and manage itand I still had to kind of be in
(12:15):
there, and it was just that, Iguess, for me it became this
location, independence becamevery important to me with that
drag of a commute and everythinglike that.
So covid definitely acceleratedthat a little bit.
Um, because we actually went toarizona and lived there for
(12:39):
three months and I was like thisis awesome, wait, yeah, I mean
being from the chicago winter,if anyone suffered through that
before you're like, just likeyou when you get to warm weather
and you're looking at becauseyou always look at chicago's
weather.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We live from st louis , live in atlanta, still go ha
you know, then in the summerflip.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Oh, it's 105 there, right now I've lived in st louis
and the winters are very mild.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I compare to chicago, anyways are but they're
miserable because there's likeit's rainy, it's cold, there's
nothing to do, and then thewhole city in the summer is a
million degrees.
So there's still nothing to doanyway it's.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So I got a taste of yeah, um, living in 70 degree
weather during december and Iwas like, well, this, this seems
good, exactly so it'sdefinitely.
There was a lot of things thatbuilt up over time.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, no, listen, it's over time.
And then it's like okay, am Irenewing this license or not?
And you're like you know what?
I'm gonna let it go.
Uh, and it usually has to havesome clients.
I love that you bridged one tothe other.
Stress at home, the stress oneto the other.
Stress at home, the stress inlife, goes way down If you're
not forced into it.
I was laid off and they're likeI gotta do something.
No one's going to hire me, um,but I love that.
(13:52):
Uh, can you tell me about thehow?
So it's one thing to know whatsuccess is, it's another to feel
the journey, the thousand cuts,and then be like, hey, I'm
doing it.
Then comes the execution ofactually doing it.
Yeah, can you give me a coupleminutes on how you made that
move?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean the how is over time I was like, obviously,
if I'm going to make a shift,it was like overnight to some
people.
It seemed like overnight tosome people that I was like a
chiropractor and then I had aseparate business, rise 25.
Me, as I kind of described myschedule for many years, the how
(14:24):
is really just working 70 to 90hour weeks to make.
So that transition is likeseamless Right, and so that's
really what it was.
It was building on and I didn'tdo that on purpose.
Like people were coming to measking me to help them with the
podcast, like you said, I wasjust kind of open to the
opportunity.
(14:44):
I didn't say no, I'm busy withthis other thing.
I kept open to that opportunityand so I had been taking on
clients and we, you know, allour team was remote, so
obviously I didn't have peoplelike in Chicago in an office.
Everyone was kind of workingremotely, but it was really just
building up somethingseparately.
(15:05):
And my business partner mybusiness partner through
podcasting and he also hadexperience with that.
Thomas, he was a speechwriterat the White House and an
attorney, and so he callshimself a recovering attorney.
He was practicing, but both ofthey came from service
professional businesses to whatwe're doing now.
(15:27):
And so that, how was just Ithink you said it before which
was just being open to what wascoming my way, accepting that
and then just putting in thetime and making it happen?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
you're uh, you're describing something really
important to uh, and I think ifyou, if anybody's heard his
brand, which he's you, do you do.
I'm going to tie it back tosomething you said earlier.
He said people hire us becausewe're really on the strategic
side and then anybody can do theexecution.
But if you're executing thewrong strategy, you're kind of
wasting money, and you're not.
You're wasting money in time.
All I heard there is that thisguy took a strategy, executed it
(16:05):
, put the hard fricking work inand then, when it was right,
moved it.
So I believe your strategydifferentiator more than ever
now, because you did it in yourlife and you did it in a moment
when most people are in a forestand they cannot see any trees
around them and you're like, no,I need to do it this way, for
whatever reasons, we don't, itdoesn't even matter.
You just did it the right, sogood for you.
I think that sings verystrongly to the brand of which
(16:26):
you built with a rise up.
You know, rise 25.
So give me a second though.
What's the impact?
So you've made the move, you'rethrough the woods.
Now you're looking back at yourbeautiful land you've created.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Now what's what's been the impact to you, your
family, your clients yeah, Imean there's there's
professional and and there'spersonal, um, from a also the
personal side.
I mean that's, I think, adriving force which is I used to
if I commute from the city.
It was tough to because youknow it's hard to do virtual
(16:59):
chiropractic right.
You can't like adjust peoplethrough zoom and the couch now
lean back exactly there's asimpsons episode on it where he
leans over a garbage can, but Idon't think that counts.
Um, you know, I'd have toreally sacrifice, choose, really
choose family or business,because if the kids had like a
(17:21):
recital or a dance show, I I'dbe like, okay, I have to leave
like an hour and a half early,it's rush hour.
I may have to leave at three,the prime time of seeing
patients, maybe after they comeand work, and now I could really
work from anywhere.
I do an office that's likeeight minutes away from me and I
could just roll out and makeall of their events that I need
(17:42):
to, and so that was personallyfulfilling.
I just I think about that everytime.
One of them just had like a, um, a chorus recital the other
week and I was like thinkingsitting there, like I'd have to
basically um, sacrifice incometo be here before, and now I
could just be here, right, andso that was.
(18:04):
That was big for me from aprofessional standpoint.
It was a different differencebetween like a b2c business and
a b2b business, and like the b2cbusiness with, you know, anyone
would come in off the street,right, and we'd see them.
It was very interesting, um,but it also was kind of nice.
Just I'm talking to businessesall day long and get to
(18:27):
strategize on what I think isthe most important part of
business, which is relationshipsand helping people make those
connections and reinforce theiractual relationships.
Right, so, like a lot of times,people including myself
sometimes we take relationshipsfor granted.
Businesses realize, likethere's people on your phone,
(18:51):
there's people in your emailthat you haven't, that are
important to you, that evenrefer you business that you
haven't engaged with in like sixmonths or a year and making a
difference, because onerelationship can make a huge
difference.
People form mentorships, theyformed referral partners,
(19:11):
strategic partners, through whatwe teach them and that one
relationship could make theirbusiness, like, exponentially
better yeah, absolutely what hewas grateful for um, I mean I am
grateful for health, my health,like you know, just keeping up
with it.
I mean I do have a stringentroutine around health, so it's
(19:34):
not necessarily lucky, but thereis genes that factor into the
luck.
And then just my family.
I mean my wife has been reallysupportive with everything Right
.
And so I think back, I'm like Idon't know how she endured some
of the scheduling that I hadaround it, but she did and has
been really supportive.
(19:54):
And then John Corker, mybusiness partner.
He's in the trenches with meand he's four kids under 13.
So he's got a lot that he'smanaging on the family front.
But just continuing to pushforward with what our mission is
, that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Let's sum it up for me.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, let's sum it up for me.
What's the advice you're goingto give to a listener?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean my advice, thomas, in anything and I was
talking to my kids about this islike one I try and be as
coachable as humanly possibleand listen and find the experts
who have been there and donethat in every facet of my life.
So you know, if I'm strugglingwith something finding a mentor,
finding a coach in thatspecific thing, because that
(20:42):
time leaps you.
There's a good friend atO'Keefe who wrote Time
Collapsing you, at leastleapfrog me, okay, and cut the
time, money and energy of Iwould.
I would have spent learning it,trying it with someone who
already knows the path.
So that's been the biggest forme is just finding that coach
(21:03):
and mentor in that specificthing I'm trying to solve yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It also sometimes talks you out of something you
thought it might do, like, oh,I'm, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Um, it's, and that usually isfree because you'll meet with
the coach, he'll explain whatyou're gonna have to go do and
you're like, oh yeah, I'm notgonna hire you because I'm not
gonna go this route.
So, and that's a emotional, uh,monetary everything, health,
when you avoid those in life.
So I did.
(21:28):
I could not agree more withthat piece.
Some rapid fire questions foryou.
Who gives you inspiration?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, I get inspiration from different books
.
Like I'm listening to three tofive books per week on Audible
and so depending on what I'minterested in really, I mean I
love Tony Robbins stuff actually.
That basically is a greatperspective and there's a lot of
other books that I'm justhearing.
(21:58):
That grounds me.
The four agreements is one Ilistened to every year and it's
kind of grounds me on what'simportant.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I love that and you you kind of answer more of my
other questions, which, whichbook you'd recommend is a must
read.
Uh, do you have any others thatare like?
You know, if you're going tohave one book in your life, this
is the one.
Maybe round business.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, I mean listen, uh, I love Dale Carnegie books.
Um, how to win friends andinfluence people.
This past year I kind of create, wanted to create a book club
of all the education I wish Iwould have gotten when I was in
junior high, and so I gave it tomy daughters.
I'm like I go, I'm gonna payyou if you read these books.
I'm gonna pay you and obviouslyyou read it.
(22:38):
You have to give me a summaryof it and one one thing you're
applying to it that you knowthey're gonna go gb team like
here it is dad yeah, exactly, Igot it down um, so how to win
friends, influence people.
It's all about relationships, um, you know, adam, all the
relationship books.
Adam grants book, give and takeis one of my favorites.
John Rulon, um a rest in peace.
(22:58):
Uh, giftology, um is one of myfavorite books, like all those
books on relationships, cause Ithink that is kind of the
foundation, uh, and how I think.
Yeah, you know if you had tostart over you know, and you can
(23:22):
go back to any part in yourtimeline.
When would you go back and whatwould you do differently?
Where would I be?
But I'm thinking then, the theother side of my shoulder,
there's the angel and the devil.
Right.
It's like, oh, you should have,just you know, majored in
business.
You'd be so much further alongin the business career or doing
some kind of cool path.
(23:42):
But then the angel's like youknow what, like that's the
reason, what shaped you withwhat you are and what you did.
And so I'm like, yeah, and Iwouldn't have learned all this
health stuff that I can apply tomyself and my friends and my
family to better my health.
So part of that is I'm alwaystorn Like was that good, was it
(24:03):
not good?
But going back, I'm like Iguess it shaped who.
I am Right.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Exactly, and it's it's things were done for you,
not to you, and it's just amindset shift and if you read
any Dalai Lama stuff, as youknow, it's all right there.
Just things are happening whenthey're supposed to, and but
also it's the influencedownstream you know, and so you
know what you can do for yourkids.
So I think there's some piecesyou take from that.
I can better my kid's life by X, y and Z.
If there's a question today, Ishould have asked you and did
(24:30):
not what would that questionhave been and how do you answer
it?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I mean I think you asked it.
Really.
I mean, the most importantthing to me is, um, I guess one
thing is people will ask me howdo I get in touch with this
person or that person?
They're trying to connect withsomeone for whatever reason some
VIP, maybe it's a partner,maybe it's a potential client
(24:56):
and the fastest?
I was thinking there's a lot ofways to do it for free, right,
you know, and give to people,but the fastest way I've seen it
happen is just buy their stuff.
I mean when I look at people,you know, like there was someone
who I really respect and likeand I'm like, well, how do I get
ahold of this?
I'm like, listen, I'm justgoing to literally buy
(25:17):
everything that they have, ifthey have books, if they have
audio, if they have a program,if they have a conference, and I
just literally bought all theirstuff, right, I mean.
So it depends Like obviouslythere's free ways to do it and
to give that person, but toleapfrog.
I have found supporting thatperson and buying their stuff
(25:38):
actually is a great way to justhire.
Hire someone like as aconsultant, like I'm trying to
get them to hire them for as aconsultant for an hour, like I
want to pay you, thomas, for anhour of your time.
You to be like I don't want totalk to you, like, okay, cool.
Like I want yeah.
So just how do you leapfrogwith relationships?
(26:00):
I'm always thinking about howdo I give?
It's a giving thing, right, soit's an altruistic based
approach to serving Listen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Thank you, you rock.
I mean, I would expect nothingless from a person who who runs
a podcast Fantastic.
Thank you Once again, Dr JeremyWeiss.
Thanks for coming on how andwho should get ahold of you.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean listen.
You can get ahold of me onLinkedIn, rise25.com or
inspiredinsidercom, and if youhave questions about
relationships, about podcasting,you know, just message me, I'm
happy to help.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Thank you once again so much for coming on today.
I'll let you say goodbye, buthe's so pro he didn't even say
goodbye.
He's like you know.
I've already said it, I'll messwith it.
Listen, everybody who made itthis part in the show, you rock
for getting here and if this isyour first time, I hope it's the
first of many.
If you've been here before, Ihope you're cutting ties.
I hope you're doing whatever ittakes for you to achieve that
(26:59):
success that you've defined foryourself.
Get after it.
Go get it.
Thanks for listening.
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