THE GRANDE DAME OF GLAM: WITH SHARON DANLEY

In this inspiring episode, I sit down with Sharon, a remarkable 79-year-old master make-up artist and hair stylist who's taking social media by storm. With her massive YouTube following Sharon has become the go to exert for women over 60 who want to look and feel their best. We talk about filters, make up tips for all ages and The silver/gray movement. To go gray or not to go gray? That is the question! #sharondanley #hbo #cuttinloosechronicles #florida #hyp #makeup #youtube #hair #podcast #canada #airfarce #saturdaynightlive #speedy #itsfloridaman #filters #oba: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzJqAqAdC2cma #sharondanley

https://www.youtube.com/twominutetips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s-OZO38cSk&t=131s

www.simplysharon.ca

Episode Transcript

(00:01):
Good morning, girl. I'm going to talk to you this
morning about the way you look. Now, I've heard it said that we
women attach too much importanceto our appearance, but that
isn't true. After all, the way we look
exerts so much influence on the way we feel and on the way other
people feel about us that it really is very important.

(00:22):
And I talk about good appearanceor good grooming or looking your
best. You probably think immediately
of clothes or hairstyle or makeup.
Well, I realize that those things are especially
interesting to you, and they areimportant, and I am going to
talk about them. But Please remember that they

(00:43):
are just really the trimmings, just like the icing on the cake.
If the icing is very good, well,that's fine.
But if the cake itself isn't good, you'd soon lose interest
in the icing. So let's start with the cake and
come back to the killings later.Today I'm thrilled to welcome

(01:12):
Sharon Dan Lee, master makeup artist and hair stylist who was
taken YouTube by storm for many years.
She's become the go to expert for not just women, but women
over 60 who want to look and feel their best.
Please join me in welcoming her Sharon.
Hi, Sharon. Hello, thank you.

(01:33):
You look so beautiful. There are many layers to Miss
Sharon Danley that I'm talking to right now and I cannot wait
to express all that she's got tooffer.
Sharon, let's start from the beginning, OK?
With that exceptional sexy accent of yours, Where did you
grow up? In Toronto just after I got off

(01:56):
the Ark. Oh God, it's just so when I
first, when I first listen to you, I thought, oh, she must.
She's she's got to be from England.
And I thought, oh, no, no, no. I hear the Canadian accent now.
But you grew up in Ontario. What was that like?
What was that like? Well, my father worked for the

(02:17):
railroads, so we lived in different towns in northern
Ontario, and I can remember whenwe lived in Capuscasing.
You didn't build snow forts there, you dug them out.
How? Neat.
So it was, it was interesting. Ontario is a beautiful,
beautiful province, but I live in the city of Toronto, which is

(02:41):
changing pretty radically. Tell me about it.
We live in Florida. I live in Florida and it's
changing. So you're on the province of
Ontario, where is No Which province is Nova Scotia?
That's in the on the Atlantic side of Canada.
OK, that's where my boyfriend isfrom and he he loves Canada.
So tell me, what first drew you to makeup and hair styling?

(03:06):
Honestly. When I was a kid, and I do mean
a kid, I never felt like I was good enough.
I know I'm not the only person in the world who, as a young
person has ever felt that way. But I was drawn to especially
the visuals that I had in those days of women in the late 40s

(03:30):
and 50s and how beautiful they were.
And that's when, in my opinion, fashion was still good and I
used to practice on my mother doing her hair and we all as
yes. And then as I got older, some of
my sister's friends, I would practice makeup on them.

(03:52):
And I've just, it's something I've been drawn to.
I, I have learned through my owntrial and error.
I'm self-taught with just about everything.
And I've come up with a number of little inventions that are
that really work well. And that's what self teaching

(04:13):
does. Now you take that, coupled with
being trained by a good teacher and you've got it.
You've got it all going on. So you had to go in.
In Canada you have to go throughhair school, correct
cosmetology. Well, actually you, you can,
that's one route. But I never did any of that

(04:33):
because for my first 25 years ofof my working life, I worked in
the financial district, you know, with the Stock Exchange
and things of that nature. I worked for Chartered
Accountants and Publishers and had a well-rounded background in
the business world and seeing business run good, business runs

(04:54):
well and what not to do as well.So then I spent after I had gone
through sort of the Mad Men era of working for the man, I then
decided I'd had enough and I wanted to branch out.
And so I decided to take my loveof performance and I joined

(05:20):
ACTRA. That's a actor in Canada is the
same as SAG in the US. So I became an actor member and
did all kinds of things in frontof the camera and I did voice
over creations like I did character voices and things of
that nature. And I and I owned my own casting

(05:41):
company for a while. And then life has a way
sometimes of getting in the way of what you want to do.
And I know I'm not alone in that.
So after I had to take a break from things, I decided to go
back in, but behind the camera this time.
And throughout my years, I had every job I had been in, the

(06:06):
women in the offices, I would end up doing their makeup and
hair for them on a Friday night before they were going out for
dates and things of that nature.It's something I've done all my
life. And so I thought, you know what,
I have skills this way, so I'm going to look at going behind
the camera and what can Ioffer. So I took a couple of quick

(06:27):
courses in makeup, hair, I was just good at, I can do and not
do faster than just about anybody.
And it's only because of years of practice and trial and error
and experimentation and all thatsort of thing.
So I, I applied to CBC, which isour national broadcaster in

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Canada, and I was one of the only artists that did both
makeup and hair. And I also started a bridal
company where I did in home mobile services for bridal
brides and their parties for both makeup and hair.
And I hired two or three people that I subcontracted some of

(07:15):
that work too. And it was a very successful
business too. So that's extraordinary.
You OK? So you started at what age?
I started at about 6:00 or 7:00.OK.
But starting to really get into,did the did the Stock Exchange
and the financial exchange come first?
Yes, they did. I had 25 business.
Then I went in front of the camera and I continued

(07:36):
throughout my life doing makeup and hair.
I was always helping people out.And then when I went behind the
camera, that's when I looked at it, doing it from a professional
perspective. So I looked into all the things
that I needed to do, took, like I said, a couple of courses and
I thought, I got this and got mylicense.
I took my book to wherever you get your license here in Ontario

(08:03):
and I showed them the quality ofmy work and reams of pictures
and things, and I was licensed then for hair.
Really. That's great.
It's a lot easier in Canada thanthat is in the US.
Well, I still have to write. I still have to write an exam
and all that sort of stuff, you know, and I studied up on it for
that. My strength in hair styling is

(08:24):
hair styling. I'm I, I don't do coloring or
perms or any of that sort of thing, but it's styling updos
and cuts and things of that nature.
And you're a lot of, I don't want to go too far past what,
you know, laying out your journey, but I know that you
have a lot of theatrical background and a lot of

(08:46):
theatrical with commercials and on and off set for for movies.
I'm so interested in that. So digging deep.
I went in on sharondanley.com and I was looking at your
website and I'm pulling it up right now.
It is, it is so impressive all that you do.

(09:06):
You've got master artist, celebrity and business elite.
A lot of people don't know that hair and makeup, it just doesn't
just stay there. There's so many different
avenues that you can go out on and I want you to tell me.
So we've got digital media, film, stage, but you have

(09:28):
something here, it's corrective.What does corrective mean?
Specializing in corrective. Yeah, OK.
Well one example would be brideswho have late, let's say like I
have a picture up there on my onmy site where there's a bride
who has a tattoo on her back, but she was wearing a low cut
bridal gown and didn't wanted that covered.

(09:48):
So I cover tattoos and things ofthat nature so it just makes it
blend right away and the skin just looks lovely.
And then when I was at CBC, I worked on a show called Air
Farce and IA lot of character work there that I really
enjoyed. The fellow who I worked on was

(10:09):
Allen Park and he was so great. We had such a great working
relationship because he let me try anything and he was willing
to try anything to get the look when when I made him look like
Obama. When we went to the Pig Comedy
Fest, when he was performing there, there were people lining
up to shake his hand because they thought he was Obama.
That's incredible, and there arepictures of that on the Sharon

(10:31):
danley.com website. My name is President Barack
Obama, and I need me some trustworthy and intelligent
Democrats. Oh, and you too, Hillary.
I'm going to change America. I have one plan and one plan

(10:53):
only to reform healthcare. You mean to make it as good as
Canada, Sir? My plan will create healthcare
for every American except for those who work at Fox News.
Do you think that that was OK for all the listeners?

(11:14):
I want you to know that Air Farce is the equivalency to
Saturday Night Live here in the US.
So Canadian, Canada's Air Farce is their comical late night
television that I was watching alittle bit of last night and it
certainly is funny. But those pictures are on the
Sharon danley.com. Do you think that that was your

(11:36):
first big break that opened the door for you for for doing this?
It wasn't a break necessarily because I was already situated
in bridal makeup and makeovers for people.
And I did all the shows on CBC, like the nature of things, the
news, the kids shows, you know, when we had elections, that sort

(12:00):
of thing. And but what I enjoyed about Air
Force was that it allowed me to stretch my skills, which I
really enjoyed, and like dressing Alan, making him up to
look like a particular characterthat he had in mind.
And like he said, I can't do what I do until you do what you

(12:21):
do, He said. I feel my character coming forth
as you're creating the look for me.
So we had a great relationship. So Sharon has a channel on
YouTube called The two-minute Tips, which is really, really
good. And how long have you been doing
that? I started that, I think in about
2010, and I've just recently changed its name to simply

(12:47):
Sharon. Oh, I need to make a note of
that. Simply Sharon.
So it's on. YouTube It's youtube.com forward
slash at Simply Sharon tips. OK, why did you change it?
Because it's a new time of life for I'm going to be 80 next year

(13:08):
and it's a very different time for women, for makeup and hair
and aging. I am going to arrive at my
coffin in a limousine. That's my attitude.
Well, you certainly demonstrate that, that's for sure.
Well, it's thank you, but it's, you know, some of my followers,

(13:29):
you know, who have been following me since the
beginning. We've gone through lots of
different changes. And when we hit this stage of
life, not only do our does our skin and hair and everything
else change, but our mobility becomes an issue too.
Shoulders, wrists, elbows, things of that nature.
And sometimes, you know, women dealing with chemotherapy,

(13:52):
stroke issues, all kinds of things I'm kind of developing
like I did when I was, you know,8-9 and ten trying and adjusting
and, you know, figuring out a better, figuring out a really
good or better way to do something.
So that as an example, with putting on makeup, most of the

(14:13):
brushes are long handled. They need to be short handled
because we use that mirrors, youknow those who have trouble with
shoulders doing their hair. So what's the way?
What are some styles that you can get your hair cut in or
style yourself that are easy foryou to maintain?

(14:34):
So the the focus is looking yourbest with what you've got, what
abilities you have, and what tools you can acquire to do it
the best you can for yourself. And not taking one or two hours
to do it, but get makeup and hair done in 15 minutes so
you're ready for the day. So I'm in the business too.

(14:57):
So style, you know, hair stylistfor 30 years.
And I noticed I have all different ages, all different.
But you know, I'm 50 years old now, so I'm no spring chicken,
but I'm, I'm right in the middle, you know, So I have, so
doing it for 30 years. I have, I when I was 21, I have
the same client still today. So now all my clients are now in

(15:18):
their 70s, sixties, 70s. Some are in their 80s.
And what I've noticed is the change in their attitudes.
So they get to a certain age, a certain number.
And I've noticed that they've stopped really wanting to put on
makeup. They've stopped wanting to fix
their hair and style in it. And then they get into that rut

(15:39):
of their hair starting to thin out and you know, it's not as
shiny as it used to be, which happens with age, but also
medicines, medications that cometheir way.
There's a lot and we've been getting it coming, come in.
Well, we're still in COVID, but you know, in 2020 to 2023, COVID
hair that really came in and just wiped us that really, that

(16:03):
really got us good. So people are still recovering
from that. So what advice would you give?
I, I know what I try to do. I know that I'm always positive
and I always point out all theirgood features and I always am
optimistic. And, but what is your advice to
keep them? Because you, you're very good at

(16:23):
you. You say on your actually we're
calling it simply sharing now formally 2 minute tips.
You're really good about 60s starting at 60 and going on and
it's really encouraging them What what advice would you give
for them to get back the the fire?
Hi, Sharon. Danny with another two-minute

(16:44):
tip. I'm going to concentrate this
time talking about what's reallyimportant for our age group.
There's so many things out therein the fashion industry that
tells you what you should and shouldn't wear and all that sort
of thing, but there's very few people out there in our age
group with the professional experience to advise.

(17:05):
So this is my perspective. It's my opinion based on a lot
of years of working with all kinds of faces and colors,
etcetera. For our age group, the best bang
you can get for your buck is to have even skin tone. #1 number.
2A well shaped and corrected brow.

(17:28):
That's correct for your stage and age.
As we age faces, the face changes.
Things move mostly down, not so much up.
So you have to adjust accordingly.
But if you can keep your eyebrows framed properly for
your face as it changes, that's number two.
Number three, keep your lash line nice and strong.

(17:51):
Our lashes diminish at the strength of our eyes diminish,
etcetera. But if you keep your lashes.
Strong and that's again where I'm going to recommend false
lashes that you get far more bang for your buck.
It's worth the, the, the time tolearn how to do it.
And I would suggest if you put them on every day for about a

(18:11):
month, and I mean every day, you'll find by the end of that
time that you will have masteredthe craft of wearing false
lashes. And the other thing, of course,
is to have corrected lips. Again, as we age, our lips
change. Sometimes we get this marionette
line down like this or sometimeswe have like this.
And that's actually, I mean, this brow on this side falls

(18:35):
right down like this now. And it goes like this.
This side of my lip is much higher up, so I have to bring it
down to match. But when you're.
Finished with the slight. Corrections.
Then it makes a huge difference in how you look and when you.
Look your best. You feel so much better.
It's it's a well known fact and we've known that all our lives,

(18:58):
but more so now as time goes on.And for all you beauties who
have, you know, in your younger years, you were just blessed
with great, you know, skin tone and facial structure and
fabulous hair and never needed to maybe learn the art of having
to fix. Now comes the time when

(19:20):
everybody has to start, you know, adjusting or fixing or
whatever, except maybe for, you know, the odd person that's just
been blessed continually. It it's.
Worth the time that it takes about every five years, I
recommend either taking video ofyourself or whatever and just
talk like I'm doing now, or justdo side profiles front and back,

(19:43):
etcetera, and get a really good look at your face and adjust
your makeup accordingly. It will make a big difference.
And once you've got it correctedand then you, you can keep doing
that until you know, the next avalanche starts to come down.
But anyway, aside from that, I also want to let you know that
I've had this little e-book out for some time.
I haven't promoted it much, but I get a lot of questions.

(20:06):
And this this book covers a multitude of things.
Hair, makeup, wardrobe. Modern day etiquette, it's all
in here. And what I like to do with what
I'm doing with this ebook now isI will.
I'm happy to give you the book with the idea that you pay back

(20:30):
or pay forward in either your time, talent OR money to a
person or group in your area. In memory of my daughter, Andrea
Maine. What is it that drives you?
What excites you, what gives youpassion?
I think what's important is keeping your health as best you

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can keep it for where you're at.That's that's number one, Number
2, not only physical health, butmental health and spiritual
health. Those are all important and find
out what your purpose is for this chunk of time.
What is it you're called to do, meant to do?

(21:16):
What excites you? What ideas do you have on how
you can serve the greater good? And when you have that as a
focus, then everything else can can kind of be planned and play
into it. So you said you're going to be
80 next? What?
What is your birthday? It's June in June, I'll be 79 in

(21:37):
next week. So so you're 78.
Don't you rush that I. Don't look at, you know what?
I don't look at it that way. I really don't mind aging
because I feel privileged to have come to this particular
juncture. And my life has changed
incredibly in the last 10 years,incredibly.

(22:01):
But I still have a purpose. If my body is still moving, I
can still think, OK, I can stillchallenge and be challenged.
I'm still active in advocacy work for the, you know, the
vulnerable people, then, OK, what, what's my purpose at this
juncture? And then I just let it cook.

(22:23):
Then it bubbles up to the surface.
And then I OK, I think I'll do this.
I'm going to continue with this or I'm going to add this or I'm
going to take this course or I'mgoing to do whatever it is I
need to do to follow the direction that I think I'm being
called to, OK? Well, you're certainly a spicy
little number. I don't want to be too nosy, but
are you single? Yes.

(22:44):
OK. Are you dating?
No. OK, because I just did an
episode with my good friend Charlene on speed dating.
Have you heard of speed dating? Yes.
I have. OK.
So are you interested in anything like that?
I'm interested in a man that is emotionally stable and
financially sound. I'm not interested in games and

(23:07):
I'm not interested in taking care of somebody just because
you know what I mean? I, I'm, I'm all for a good
healthy two way St. relationship.
Anything less than that isn't good enough for me.
Before and it shouldn't be. So this is so not a part of our
topic, but since we're on it, let's just do it.

(23:28):
So you being you're 7078, you'realmost 79, but you're not the
average. And I think you know that and
it's OK because hey, you should be proud of it.
But do you have a lot of what dothe men look like that are
single around you? I mean, I'm sure they come
barking down your door a little bit and, you know, I'm sure that

(23:49):
you're the hot ticket in town. I think I scare emotionally weak
men. I scare them away.
The good ones, you know? Do you know the old story?
The good ones are all taken, youknow, But the door is open, the

(24:09):
screen doors open, but you know,it's not locked.
But if, if I have a good, healthy, wonderful relationship,
that's a two way street, great. And if I don't, great because I
like who I am. I like the things I'm involved
in. I I get joy out of helping
others and keeping myself the best that I can keep myself.

(24:31):
So no hot dates lined up then? Not today, for this evening.
Maybe after my show, No, if it was audio, no, I mean if it was
a video, which I, I'm not video because I I could be, but I
don't know. I just I'm not ready.
You always have to look spot on for video.

(24:51):
Oh, you do. You do.
Yeah, I hear you. So on your simply Sharon, you
have some really great videos onthere and one is called hair
padding. I love your hair padding.
So and also you are very into the hair extensions and I call
them plugins, so hair additives and sometimes it's only like 1,

(25:15):
but it makes all the difference in the world.
You and I have a lot in common. So what you said starting out,
I've always always was driven tohair.
I used to go and have my mom take me to get a haircut just so
I could watch them cut hair. And so I never had long hair.
So I was I would I would just sit there and watch.
I always had this horrible Pixiecut, but and my sister had the

(25:37):
long, beautiful blonde hair, ButI just wanted to watch some cut
hair and and I also practice on not just my my friends, but my
sister had a few friends. She's only a year older than me,
who let me cut on their hair too.
But but as always, my passion that and OK, and also drama.

(25:57):
I wanted to do theater. I wanted to be an actress.
So and I and I also love to do. I haven't got to do it in a long
time, but theater and and but domakeup and recreate love it.
It's, I just think that you get to, you're going to escape that
way. Yes, it is.
It is and it's and it's, you know, I have been so blessed.

(26:21):
I've sung all my life, sung in choirs and sang with bands and
different things. And I have to say there's been
moments in my life where I've been in some stairwell in any
town America at some convention,and three or four people would
be, would get together and sing,you know, the ends of songs or
whatever. And when everybody's note was

(26:43):
right in the center and it was all locked in, you could hear
the overtones and the undertones.
And I can remember saying several times, Lord, you can
take me now. Life couldn't possibly be any
better than this exact moment ofconnection.
I feel very blessed to have feltthat, to have experienced it,
and I will continue to. I can see you're almost tearing

(27:05):
up over it the how passionate itis.
Oh it is. I love music too.
It's one of the gifts God gave us.
So, so doing your YouTube and doing, how do you know how to do
that? So how did you when you what
made you decide that I'm going to start a YouTube channel?
Well, because when I retired, mydaughter was quite I'll at the

(27:28):
time and my both my children were born with challenges.
Anyway, it was, I had to, I had to retire and I, but I, I
couldn't put my brushes down, you know, and I thought I
enjoyed the creativity. So, you know, I was, YouTube

(27:51):
was, you know, in its infancy atthat point.
So I thought, you know. What year was that?
Oh, that would be in the two 22,000 and 9 or something like
that. And so I decided to put up a
channel and just see. And then I thought, you know,
wait a minute, you know, things were moving along.

(28:12):
And then somebody asked if how could I do?
I can't remember what it was. I said, well, send me a picture
or post your picture. So I put them through what I
call the Photoshop spa. And I showed them what they
could, how they could fix their brows, make them go in this
angle instead. And here's what you can do with
your lips, yadda, yadda, yadda. And then sent then I then I

(28:34):
posted at before and an after picture.
And I still do that to this day.And what I love about it is that
I don't have to clean my brushesand sanitize my kit.
You know what I mean? And So what I do is, and I have
AI have a playlist on the, on the channel that's for, I call

(28:56):
them make betters, not makeovers, because I think I
think making a person their bestrather than somebody else is the
better way. That's just, that's just me.
And it's a lot easier on the person that they can learn the
skills themselves with some practice and with the right

(29:16):
tools, they can replicate. So I do a, a YouTube video and
show, you know, why the brows, why we go this way or why we do
this with the skin or how we augment the circumference of the
hair and that sort of thing. And what and the difference that
it makes. And it really helps women
understand when they can see andhave it explained to them.

(29:37):
And this is all virtual. You know This is all virtual.
Do you have a camera? What do you set up your cell
phone and you just. I used, I used a Canon camera in
the beginning and right now, nowthat I'm getting back into it
because I've had about a 4 1/2 year hiatus due to, you know,

(29:58):
personal stuff that I've had to overcome.
And, and so now that I'm gettingback into it again, I'm
redesigning the website fromsharondanny.com to
simplysharon.ca and I'm, I'm revamping.
I'm, I'm, I feel like I have been, I've just had three joint

(30:19):
replacements, dental restoration, I feel like a
classic car that's just come offthe restoration assembly line.
And now I'm going to be, I've been doing that with my website,
my YouTube channel, my 2 Facebook pages.
I want to redesign. OK, this is the next phase
folks. We kind of know what the lay of
the land is, how to be and look and feel our best.

(30:39):
Now we're at the next stage. Things have changed again.
It's time to do a freshen up time to what was working still
works and what doesn't work anymore and how to fix it you.
So that's the approach. Well, you look really, really
great. So if you're comparing yourself
to a old car that just come off the the nailing it.

(31:02):
So how do you juggle everything you know, So you've got how do
you juggle it all? I, I know that you are coming
off of a four year hiatus, but before that, well, actually
you're recovering from major surgeries right now.
But before that, how did you juggle all of that?
Because on your website you've got so like your, your work for
hireright? You people can go on there and

(31:24):
hire you for photography and. Yeah, yeah.
But since since I've put up my websites, everything that I do,
all the things that people learn, I don't charge for.
What I ask people to do is if they've learned something
they've received to make better with a you get the photo and a

(31:45):
learn and A and a YouTube learning video to pay it forward
to a person or group in need in their part of the world in my
children's name in honor. Of my children.
OK, how do you get the information for that?
It on my new website that's going to be in a couple of
weeks. The information will be there or
you can go on my either of my Facebook pages.

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Sharon Danley Beauty, which is public, or going Gray and Loving
it, which is private. I actually saw the going Gray
and loving it, which that is that's that is something that's
a huge, huge trend right now. And we're going to talk about
that. But you know what, at at 78,
you're, you're, you're busier than most people that are half
your age. What drives you?

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What's driving you to do this? The greater good and the joy of
accomplishment every day going to bed feeling, ah, I had a good
day today. I was able to do this or I was
able to help a person or I got my exercises in.
You know, it, it's, it's, I think if, if you're living your

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life, it's important to live it to its fullest, whatever that
may be for any individual. And it's different for
everybody. But for me, I have the energy
and, and I just feel that I'm compelled to give.
You know, I've had a lot of, a lot of trauma in my life and
that's as have others. I've also had some moments that

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brought me to the stars. You know, I've I and, and all in
my own backyard. I didn't travel the world to
have to have that, but I feel really compelled that when you
are that, when you are in a decent position in this world,
when you're you're I don't like this term privileged because I

(33:37):
think it's misused. But when you find yourself in a
position where you know, you, you don't have to worry really
about anything too, too much. OK, what are you doing to give
back to the greater good? I think that like here's an
example. If everybody were everybody on
the planet were to do 1 good turn or help somebody, just some

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little thing. Every day we change the way the
world interacts completely. Just one little thing is all it
takes. I like the way you think.
When is your next Simply share in video coming out?
When you going to do that next? As soon as I probably in about a
month, as soon as I finish getting my web because I'm in

(34:19):
that rabbit hole of tech hell, you know, with a, with a young
programmer that's helping me getthe website up and going.
And then I have to get a new computer too, because my, I've
used up everything I possibly can and I just need it updated.
So I got to get that in line andI've got 5 or 6 different things
that I'm thinking about, but I'mgoing to be putting up some blog

(34:40):
posts. I've, I've gone through some
articles that I've written before that are like timeless
articles, the things they still apply.
So I've updated them. I'm going to start putting those
on the blog on, on my, on my website as soon as it gets up in
a couple of weeks. And I'm going to start doing
some shorts on YouTube just as soon as I can.

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You're a true artist, and one ofthe reasons I know that is
because one of your your videos is Halloween of the Behind the
Masks. Well, it looks like you had did
the Queen of Hearts with the eyebrows and then the Halloween
that that's very talented. Well, it's, you know, that was
another thing when I, when I retired, I, I went out and with

(35:27):
my daughter, we went and bought some face painting stuff and a
whole bunch of stuff for hair. And then I, what I do is face
painting for, for charities or churches or whatever, you know,
as a, as a contribution to the cause.
And it's interesting around Halloween, that particular year,
I think it was 2017 or something, I was thinking, I,

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I'm going to do some face painting for someone my age.
Well, try to find something thatisn't nasty, right?
I gotta tell you, I couldn't. So I had to kind of, I had to
really think about it was on my mind daily for a couple of.
Weeks. When you say nasty, you mean
like blood and just just only. Like, you know, like you look at
Disney, OK, all older women are,are, are like witches with

(36:13):
really bad hair. You know, you know what we call
them those warts and moles and everything else.
And and if you are beautiful looking like these in I think
it's who is the young one that ate the apple?
And the Snow White came by. Snow White, yes.
Her stepmother, you know, she was beautiful, but she had

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those, those brows, you know, that that denote that she was an
evil, nasty person. So you're either evil and
beautiful or kind hearted and ugly.
Wait a minute, wait a minute. Back the truck up here.
I'm not going for any of this. I want something new, something
different, something that, you know, shows the variety that all

(36:54):
of us have have. You ever worked in any movie
sets with any directors for any of this stuff?
I've, I've worked in front of the camera on some of this
stuff, but I've also worked behind the camera and I've, I've
been Privy to a lot of observation on things.
Yeah, you know, and I, you know,I still have my own ideas about

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things. Wouldn't that be extraordinary
if you could just have the run-of-the-mill?
You could do whatever the director just said, do what you
want to do, create these characters, put any kind of
makeup you want to do, and you could just let your your
creativity flow. Wouldn't that just be the best?
It would be fun. It would be fun, but then you
have to have the story that goesalong with it and everything
else, you know. And so it's, it's, you know,

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doing a movie. It's got so many aspects to it,
you know, that all rely on each other, you know?
I wouldn't. I would just go in there and
just completely wing it out. This is the character I'm
supposed to, I'm supposed to create a female ogre.
Well, I'm going to create a female ogre.
It won't just be a beautiful female ogre.
And you know, you could do whatever you want and hope, you
know, make the movie work aroundyour creation.

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That's what I say. Yeah, well, you do live in a
dream world, don't you? I.
Color outside the lines, put it that way.
Yeah. It's good at that.
So so you let's go into this. I noticed that you were formerly
A brunette and now you've got beautiful white silver hair.

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When did you decide to do the transformation and join the Gray
movement? But in the Gray is an ugly word.
We'll say the silver movement. But you know what?
I like Gray. I I do.
I like all the variations of Gray that there are.
I think they're beautiful. You're losing me on that one.

(38:41):
Some are so dingy. Well, it depends, you know.
I mean, it just takes a little baking soda and water mixed in
with your shampoo and you can clean out and make your hair
really shiny and no stains. And on that note, that's what
they call clarifying shampoo, only it's a lot cheaper to what
Sharon just said to do so. Yeah, and they and they say for
Gray women to wear to to to use purple shampoo.

(39:05):
I'm sorry. No, I'm so against it.
Because what it does with regular use is it creates A
metallic tinge to the hair. It can also be drying so it's
like a catch 22 or a double edged sword.
You know it helps, but then again it could be also it starts
to 'cause it's damage at the same time.
But The thing is, it discolors the hair.

(39:27):
So what do you use to keep yoursnice and vibrant without
yellowing? Without yelling.
Well, first of all, I don't use any any tools that are too hot.
I've lowered all my heat tools down and I don't use a lot of
them. I I also if I'm going to use a

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heat tool, I use a. Heat protectant.
Yes, heat protectant, but I rarely use hot tools except
maybe to blow dry once my hair is 80% dry and then I'll blow
dry it, you know? And I and and it and it works
fine. I put my hair in rollers or in
pin curls to get the looks I want, or pull it all up into one

(40:11):
big roller on top of my head if I want a smooth straight.
Look, I saw your video, 3 Velcrorollers missed your hair a
little bit, and with your extension you missed the
extension a little bit. Roll it in a Velcro roller and
put it in the closet until you're ready for its use.
Yeah, I've got it. I don't.
Hang on your words. I don't hang on your words.

(40:31):
And extensions are wonderful too, especially as we age with
our with our hair thinning and changing texture.
And most women's hair becomes curly and dry at the ends, you
know. So anyway, back back to the,
back to the the. Silver Gray hair movement.
Yeah, What is it? What's it called?
That white baking soda. I mix maybe a tablespoon of

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baking soda in about 1/2 a cup of water.
And I've got a video on it, you know, on the channel.
And then I put that into a half empty shampoo bottle, pour it in
and then I shampoo my hair with it.
I shake the bottle up because baking soda will, will settle in
the bottom, shake it up. And I use that to shampoo my
hair with. And my hair is always Gray.

(41:13):
And now it's more white. It's becoming more and more
white, which I'm loving. You know, I've loved every,
every aspect. I loved it actually, when my
hair was growing out too, when Ihad the, the, the brunette at
the ends and, and, and I I love,I loved the look.
Oh boy, purple shampoo. So it is a double edged sword.

(41:35):
A lot of times when your hair iscolor treated and you're going
bleach blonde or platinum blonde, do we dare say bleach
blonde? Still, usually your stylist will
recommend that you always have purple shampoo on hand.
I know that I always prescribe purple shampoo.
There are times when purple shampoo can be your enemy.

(41:56):
Purple shampoo has got a purple Violet undertone which on the
color wheel purple and Violet cancels out yellow.
Normally yellow is what you don't want when you got blonde
hair. So a lot of times purple shampoo
is necessary. I always recommend that you mix
your purple shampoo with a hydrating shampoo.

(42:17):
That way the purple shampoo is not going to be so harsh on the
hair because purple shampoo is very concentrated and it can
actually dry your hair out. So it's a Doctor Jekyll and a
Mr. Hyde Purple shampoo is not for everybody, but sometimes
when your hair is not color treated and you're just simply
trying to keep your beautiful natural silvers intact and

(42:37):
shiny, sometimes it can put a cast on the hair.
The bottom line is this, listen to your stylist.
Play it by ear. If you notice that your hair is
taking on a purple cast or some sort of film on your hair, then
simply don't use it for a littlewhile.
But Sharon's baking soda tip is a wonderful idea.
Baking soda in a bottle or simply add baking soda in your

(42:59):
regular shampoo and go to town with it.
That's what we call a cheap version of clarifying shampoo.
Save yourself the buck and the time and use these helpful tips.
But remember, always listen to your stylist and trust your
instincts. And you know, here's the thing.
Here's the thing. Women don't understand this

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because it's not, it's not made present to them.
Your makeup, when it's done properly, makes any hairstyle
look good. Makeup's more important than
hairstyle, and hairstyle and cutis more important than color.
I have said that before. Is it the hair or is it the the
makeup? Just like is it the?

(43:42):
Makeup. Is it the wedding dress or is it
the bridal hair? Which one is it that actually
makes it look good? So I agree, I mean you can have
a beautiful face and not such great hair, but you still look
great because you have a beautiful face and your makeup
is on and done. Well, I don't want to get, I
know we're talking about the Gray hair, but we need to come
back to the filters. I want to discuss the filters

(44:04):
with you. So I believe that the silver
hair trends, first we started probably it started before COVID
and about 2016 to 2019, there was the young girls.
I even did it. So 20 years old, it didn't
matter. They wanted to bleach their hair

(44:25):
out and they wanted what the menand older people called.
Why does she want to Gray her hair?
You know, why is she putting Gray in her hair?
She can get it naturally when she's my age and it's not the
same thing. It's, but they, it was
introduced then and so that silver hair with tons of toners,
bleach toners killing the hair. I'm glad we're through that.

(44:47):
I'm glad we're through that. And then it went in, we got into
COVID and then the salons were shut down and then people were
forced or to just let their natural hair grow out.
Well, did that help the hair stylist or did it not help the
hair stylist because you know, it helped.
It could help the hairstyles they couldn't wait to get for

(45:09):
the salons to open back up again.
So they get those roots done. But did it hurt the styles?
Because Oh my, my natural color isn't that bad.
In fact, I wonder what it'll look like if I let this grow
out. And that's when it was born.
There, it, there it is. And then it's continued.
And you know darn well if you'relike a level 2 or a level 1 of
color and you got to let that grow out, what you had going on.

(45:31):
You had about a level 5 growing out and you let it happen.
Do it is just to grow it out. It's absolutely.
It's a horrible. Horrible thing, but then you
add. Hair extensions into yours?
Yeah, I got Gray. It was.
When I was doing it was really hard to find Gray hair to make
extensions. And even harder was to get Gray

(45:53):
haired scrunchies because I think that's something that
every woman needs to have if herhair, even if it's short, you
can still put a scrunchie in andmake it look like you've got
long hair. But I had to make my own
extensions and it was, it was, it made a huge difference.
As I, you know, on the channel, you can see where I've, how I've

(46:16):
used them in a variety of ways. And even for updos, I'm, you
know, hairpins, I got some greatextensions and made like short
pieces like maybe about 3 or 4 inches long tie and sewed it
onto a hairpin. And then when I put my hair up
in a ponytail with a ponytail bun, then I would stick these in

(46:37):
so it looked like my hair was streaked right through the bun.
All kinds of ways of all kinds of ways of creatively embracing
it. Each stage of of your growth and
every stage is a delight. Actually, you and I kind of have
it made because we artistically.Know how to do it we have the
thought to do it we can do that but then people at home they

(47:00):
can't do it themselves they can but I think they let their their
brain get the best of them. I can't do it, but you can do
it. And a lot of people are afraid
of hair extensions. They're afraid of them.
Even the clip insurance, they'reafraid of them.
So and a lot of people don't want to pay for them either.
That's another thing. They're not the most, they're
not the cheapest things in the world, but yeah, but the

(47:22):
reusable hair can be and you could reuse it and take good
care of it. And like you said, yeah, the
heat friendly. Extensions too, is something I,
I like because they're actually,they're lighter.
They're as far as weight is concerned.
And here's the thing I think that's really helpful to women

(47:42):
is instead of all of this stuff coming at you, all kinds of
styles, all kinds of colors, yadda, yadda, yadda.
It it can be over overwhelming. If you could seriously consider
what's the best look for you foryour face shape and body frame
with the kind of hair you have, how can you get it cut or wear

(48:03):
it so that you have three stylesyou can count on.
Then you take a week and you do say one of those styles.
Do that for a week or two weeks until you get it home.
Then you move on to the next oneand you practice that.
And when you've got three hairstyles you can rely on, you
got it made in the shade, you'llalways look and feel good and it

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won't take more than about 3 minutes.
Well, I'm going to make sure that all of my clients.
Listen to you because I just think they'll take you more
seriously than me because I say a lot of the things that you
say. But I love a little bit of
backup here. So I like your backup, right?
Yes. Exactly so the the Gray.
Hair movement are you for? It or do you like what about the

(48:48):
what about women in their 30s who aren't they?
Their hair is not you know, where it starts out like the
people who have it where it's genetic and around their
hairline they have you know, it's going to be white and
perfectly polished, but then theback of it is dark with some
Gray in it not you know, they'renot ready, but they think that
they are There's and there's things you can do, but they want

(49:11):
to just grow it all out and they're only 30 years old.
How do you feel about that? Well, I think that.
I remember going through that stage in my early in my 30s
where I was getting Gray hair, but it wasn't enough to have a,
a, a, a strength about it. I was make it was making me look

(49:33):
tired. And that was one of the major
changes in my life. And I talk about this, the, the
different phases that we go through.
We finally get our act together.You know, I got my act together
in my 20s, my early 30s, and allof a sudden things are changing.
I got to change everything. OK, so I'm going to adjust my
makeup too, because I'm looking tired because I've only got a
few strands of grey going on. So I tried getting highlights.

(49:56):
Yeah, it just exacerbated that look.
So then I decided to color it not not with what do you call
the the coloring that you can buy in the drug store?
Actually, it's not supposed to be permanent.
It's just permanent. Yeah, yes, exactly.
Thank you. And so I did that for years and

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then, you know, and it, and it worked.
But then, you know, as I was getting close to retirement, I
thought, oh, you know, I, I'm getting tired of this.
I'm really getting tired of it. And so I decided once I had quit
work, that was it. I was just going to let it grow
out. And again, what I would suggest
to women in their 30s that are going through that now, I would

(50:37):
suggest getting in grey extensions instead of getting
highlights or looking tired. Embrace it.
Add strategic extensions to giveyou just a bit more and then
adjust your makeup accordingly. I'm very happy to report that.
The hair extension companies arenow offering beautiful Gray hair

(51:00):
extensions and they are very, very nice and very, very pretty.
And I have not had one person buy them yet, but I can't wait.
I have my I, I know exactly who I'm going to have, get them and
try it out. So they have that now when also
when people come in and they want to go through the
transition and they want to grab, they think that you can

(51:24):
just add Gray to their hair. They think that you can take
that beautiful natural. Well, some of most of it's
beautiful. So yours is beautiful, but not
everyone's as beautiful and you could just add it to there.
And I always see you can't do that.
There is no hair color that we can do.
I wish there was, but there isn't.
So then they you know, you couldyou could do some things to cut

(51:44):
corners, you could heavily highlight and all that, but then
you know it never turns out right.
Absolutely right. I completely.
Agree with you, I don't care howmuch toner.
You use. No, no, it's not the same.
And the thing? Is you don't know what color
your hair is going to be when itgrows out either you don't and
you can get an idea. You can get an idea, but you

(52:06):
know you may be you may have a lot on the.
Top but then have a dark at the back which I think is a gorgeous
look. I do too.
I do too, I. Adore it, I adore it.
But you don't know what it's going to be like.
So just my advice and I, I've said it all along, leave it
alone, let it do its thing. We, you know, when we are

(52:27):
pregnant and it takes nine months to have a child, you
know, there's times when you think, oh, oh, I can't wait
until this baby is born, you know, but you can't rush it.
It's the same with Gray hair. The how, how you, you know, had
your children and you, you founda way to be patient with

(52:49):
pregnancy. Do the same with your Gray hair.
Look at the wonderful journey. And here's what I think is
really important is to keep a journal of your journey.
And then when you look back, it's amazing what you found.
OK, give me give me a page from your journal on.
Month 20. Gosh.
I, I, I. I'm looking in the mirror.

(53:10):
I'm ready to I. Don't know what to do, but you
see because I because I saw extensions right away.
I, you know, I, I, I liked it. I have, I have to tell you, I
enjoyed the journey. I really did because it was, it
was interesting to see people's responses.

(53:30):
And you know what's interesting?I had more compliments from men
on the street who men I didn't even know.
Oh, ma'am, I love your hair. And it wasn't even fully grown
up. And I thought, wow, how come
nobody ever told me about this before, You know, and it's and
again, when you, when you embrace it and look at it as a

(53:53):
another journey that you're going through and you embrace it
with with a joy and a fervor, you present differently to the
world. You walk with a plum with
confidence and people are drawn to that confidence.
Oh man, are they ever drawn to it?
There's nothing like a man or a woman who has well put together,

(54:16):
no matter what age they are, butthey're dressed and groomed
appropriately for their age. There's something compelling
about them. That's nice, isn't there?
Yes, yes, I. Mean fool people.
I don't like what Elizabeth Taylor said, you know, she said,
honey, I Can't Sing. I just make people think that I
can sing, you know, So if I, if I act like I'm singing, I'm

(54:38):
singing great. People are going to think, Oh,
you really do sound good. So it's the same, same kind of,
you know, example. Here's how I want my listeners
to know how I stumbled across you, Sharon.
I was doing a episode with Ashley, one of my Co hosts about
filters and how when people comein to show you what color they

(54:59):
want for their hair or their even their haircuts, they have
there's all these filters on everything through social media
and stuff. So I wanted to give examples on
how that can be very difficult on the hair stylist because
you're expected to have those perfect bleached out white
blonde hair without any kind of flaw whatsoever.

(55:21):
And so they expect you to be able to do that.
And sometimes they believe you that there's a filter on there.
Then sometimes they just think, oh, she just can't do it.
So that's why she's she's sayingthis.
PS Don't fry my hair up right? So so that's how I found your
video on what did you call it? You called it filter dysmorphia.

(55:42):
Yes, psychological. Dysmorphia.
Yes, yes, a facial dysmorphic. Disorder.
That's it. Tell us about that.
Hi, Sharon. Danny here with another 2.
Minute tip and guess what? The soapbox is out.
Word on filters. Both in the makeup industry and
on cameras, we are seeing a proliferation of blurred,

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filtered. Photos.
Instagram especially, and they're starting to show up
everywhere. And also now videos are being
filtered, while it's very compelling to want to look like
we have no wrinkles, no pores, we haven't aged.
We're still that skin of an 18 year old.

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It's false. And I believe that it's
dangerous because it's delusional.
And the other thing is, when people see you in real life, do
they recognize you? Why would you want?
To. Show a picture of yourself that
isn't really you. Think about it.

(56:51):
And I mean really think about it.
Why are we? So caught up.
In the poreless, wrinkleless skin that the beauty industry
has entrenched in our thinking, what's more important than
filters and pores showing or wrinkle showing is how you've

(57:14):
shaped your brows, whether your lash line has been strengthened
as it ages, and whether your lips are corrected as you age.
And the final thing is even skintone.
Not poreless or wrinkle, less skin, but even skin tone.

(57:36):
Does that make sense? Architecture is far more
important than blurriness. It's like with hair styling,
hair style is far more importantthan hair color.
Those are the things to concentrate on when you have
your makeup redesigned in a way that suits your changing and

(58:01):
aging face for where you're at, there's no need to have to blur
it or to cover it up or to pretend it's something that it's
not. For me personally, I would far
sooner see an older woman who has her act together, who still
puts her best foot, face and frock forward in a chic,

(58:24):
timeless way than something. That.
Just isn't real. And believe me, I understand.
Like I said earlier, it's compelling to knock 20 or 30
years off, but only for a few. Moments.
It's delusional and it's fun forfun, but when it becomes a

(58:48):
reality and a lifestyle then youhave a problem in my not so
humble opinion. Well.
As you know, as I've said, I do a lot of make betters for people
digitally. And when I asked them to put
their give me their photo when it's filtered, I can't do it.

(59:08):
And I, I won't even try. Because what I've found in one
of my pages too, that when people post a picture of
themselves that's obviously filtered, there's no pores, no
lines, no wrinkles, no anything.And I asked them politely that
because this is a teaching page,we don't allow filtered

(59:32):
pictures. Please check your camera and
take the filters off and please post another picture.
Some get very, very, very upset with it.
And I at first I used to feel really bad because I didn't want
to hurt anybody's feelings. But the truth is the truth.
And they are so locked into that's the way I look.

(59:56):
It's a, it's, it's not the way they look that it's, it's, it's
become it. In my opinion, it's helping to
develop a mental illness around the way we view ourselves.
Do you know what I mean? I know what you mean.
And the beauty. Community.
I just, I've fought for years against them.

(01:00:19):
Even though I use their products.
I am sick to death of the kinds of pictures and videos they put
out. And especially when they're
trying to sell to this demographic.
They've got somebody 40 years myjunior telling me that this is a
good eyeshadow for me. I think oh please, facial
dysmorphic disorder. I have labeled this.

(01:00:42):
What I see is a very dysfunctional approach to how we
want to see ourselves compared with what really is when their
face is filtered. I can't do it justice.
That's right. And I like how you say that the.
Makeover it's a make better that's I really like that I'm

(01:01:04):
I'm going to take that from me I'm going to copy you without
one yeah I I. Just I just like that approach
because we, we don't need to be made over completely.
No, we, I really believe and I've seen it in action, most
women just want to look their best and with with the know how

(01:01:24):
and the tools and the most important ingredient, the
practice till you hone the skill, it makes life so much
easier and better and it's it, it changes people.
It changes women's sense of confidence about themselves
because they know they can create this anytime they want.
Do you think AI is a problem when it comes?

(01:01:46):
To that AI, like everything else, it's.
Got its excellent points and it's got it's very dangerous
points, you know, and I, I can tell whenever you know, and I'm
sure a lot of people are starting to be able to tell too.
So many of the videos and the photos that we're seeing now are
AI generated and now that they can voice clone too.

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Yikes, that's a bit scary in thewrong hands.
It's real scary. Yes, I've noticed, but I've.
I the things I like about it is it's completely improved my
vocabulary. So as I've been, as I've been
podcasting, it's helped me go further with my imagination.
So it helps me describe things better.
It has helped me, but then I canalso see how, Oh my goodness,

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it's listening to me and it knows everything It I can, I can
use AI and I'm talking into and I'm trying to get him to explain
something that I can't figure out and he can almost AI here.
They can understand my brain. Oh listen, I called Grok.
My new best friend is it Grok. Yours is grok.

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Yeah, Grok and chat GTP. Yeah, and it's interesting that
you should say he. I do exactly the same thing.
We shouldn't do that AI as well you.
Know what I refer to? AI as he it's just, I don't know
why that is, but it's an interesting thing to think
about. It might be our our old
fashioned side. Too, where he makes us feel

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protected, He could very well beI, and that is.
A role for males in society. You know, I mean it, it, you
know, we've been on this earth along time.
However, we're very powerful, confident.
Females. Absolutely.
Yes, absolutely. You're a great testimony.
For women, I think you're great.Oh, you're sweet.

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Thank you. I I'll.
I'll take that. And I'll take any compliment I
can get. I'm not ashamed to say it.
So as long as it's honest. Do you think that there is an
answer? To.
This like do you think that but for the filters and stuff, do
you think that it's ever going to stop?
No, they would. They will push it, but.
You can stop it for yourself. To me, you know it's to me it's

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so simple. But if women learn the art and
the skill of good makeup application and hair styling,
that's enhance enhances them, particularly when they learn
that skill, then no matter wherethey go or what they do or who
they speak to or see in real life, not through a camera lens,

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they can bring that confidence with them.
See, the trouble with these filters is it's only in a
digital format. When they see you live, it's
like, wait a minute, who are you?
And that's been a problem because I have a friend.
And she will only use filters. She will not put a picture out
there unless there is a filter. And you can obviously tell it's

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a filter because smooth skin, there's, there's things missing.
Teeth are wider than they usually are.
You know, you can even put on there, you can even make your
hair fuller. You can make your hair big, you
can make your nose smaller. And it's just a facade.
It's an illusion. So like you said, it's almost
like it's deceitful. You had made a comment on your

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video that I wanted to see if you could explain.
We were talking about you today when I was at work because I was
saying what my what today's showis going to be about and who my
guest was. And they mentioned makeup and
they wanted to say, well, is it makeup a sort of a filter?
And exactly will you please explain that it's not a filter
because. Filters are something it filters

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are a digital thing. OK, when you see the person
live, you don't have that kind of a filter where the erases all
pores, all wrinkles, all everything makeup when it's used
properly and I under score exclamation mark that used

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properly, it's an enhancer. It's not a it's not a deceit,
it's an enhancer. You know, let's take people with
vitiligo or xanthelasma. Facial differences make up for
those people equalizes their opportunity for success.

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Take that makeup away from them and you people look at their
disorder or you know, whatever it is rather than looking at the
person. You know what I mean?
I know exactly. I agree with you too.
Because makeup has been around for ages, ages.
And you can stand in front of somebody wearing makeup or not

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wearing makeup and you're the same person, but you see
somebody on the Internet and even the, the influencers and
the bloggers, they have the whole, it's in their, their
camera lenses. So they look perfect, absolutely
perfect. And it's just so deceitful.
It's just not right. And and like you said, I like

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where you went with that when you said that, when I heard you
say that in the video, I thought, how brilliant is that?
That's absolutely right. And I can see how that could
happen because it makes people who are regular people that
don't know how to apply the makeup, who who rely on stylists
or tutorials. And then they see these perfect
people and they go to do it themselves and they're not
producing the same as it. It makes them feel bad inside.

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Absolutely, absolutely, Annie. And there's there's a.
Couple of components to that. One is I help women who are
going through, you know, chemo and different things like that,
or women who've been beautiful all their lives and then all of
a sudden they hit 6070 and things change and they need some
help. All of a sudden they want to use

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makeup but they don't know how because they've not practiced
all their lives. They've not kind of got it
together. So this is where you need to
learn the skill and have the right tools and the right
products for application and those that so, so when they're,
when they're, they're not practiced, they're all of a

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sudden they want to look good. It's easier to slap on a filter
than it is to take the time to learn something and then apply
it. And The thing is, look at this
on dating sites too. I, I, there should book should
be written for the number of pictures, I'm sure on both sides
of the fence that have all been filtered.

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And then they meet for a date inreal life.
And it's like, what? What you're this?
They look at their phone, they look at the person, they look at
their phone, they look at the person.
Who is this? Do you know what I mean?
I do. What's the point?
You know people. Come in and they want.
To get a new hairstyle. And you blow it out, you cut it,
you blow it out. It looks great.
And they say, how come this never looks like this for me?

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I said, well, do you blow dry your hair?
Well, no, I don't have time. I just let air dry.
OK. Do you use Hairspray?
I don't. I hate Hairspray.
Do you use any styling tools? Oh, no, I don't have time for
that. Well, then there's your answer.
I mean, you see all the, you seeeverything that I'm doing here.
Sometimes people can get a little lazy.
And I'm just going to say it. It's called lazy.

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If you want to put the time intoit, then you will.
You'll obviously look a little bit better, but you got to at
least give yourself at least 20 minutes.
And that's, that's, that's, I think that's reasonable.
Well, yeah. And I I like to get it.
Down to 10 minutes. I mean, I've, I've got 1 little
video and I'm, I'm gonna be redoing some of these videos for
the next phase, right? But I've got one for savvy,

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savvy seniors for the summer. You know, there's, you know what
you're doing with your makeup. You don't have to wear the whole
enchilada, but you can even yourskin tone, which is number one
on the hip parade for good makeup.
OK, we've got the right products.
You know how to use them. It's fast, easy, simple, a
little bit of color in your cheeks in the right place.

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And I do mean a little bit. And then strengthen your lash
line, make sure that your brows are enhanced, whatever you have
to do with your lips. Some of us have to augment our
lips as we get older because they get thinner and thinner and
thinner, right? So it a little bit of
augmentation, just a little bit of color and you can do that you
can do that in 3 minutes if you know what you're doing and

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you're good for the day. I want to ask you this.
What do you think about the Pamela?
Anderson, what she's been doing,she's been, she's been promoting
no makeup at all. What do you think about that?
I'll go first if you want looking for attention and wants
to be relevant. I'm sorry, but some people.
Can go with I mean, how about a little bit of powder?
You can't just bare face it, especially you've been

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worshipping the sun for so many years.
And I think I just think great. But what the no makeup at all,
not even some mascara. I, I, I just think, come on.
And would you, would you have been as famous?
If. You did that in the beginning,
would you? But really, I don't want to bash
people who don't wear makeup. But no, it's fine because but

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here, here. Again, makeup as far as I'm
concerned, and I have a, you know, I got my soapbox out on my
channel and this is, this is a soapbox subject.
Makeup is magic and it's it's a tool.
That is all it is. A magic tool used properly can

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change things for people. Like I said, if you've got pit
of Lego, you're not going to putmakeup on.
So everybody looks at your at your coloring rather than I'm
with you, I'm with you. Some people, some people say I
just don't have. I just just think it's a little
bit lazy. I mean, we do we really want to

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get up every morning and put on even if it's just mascara or
some foundation or some powder. And then no, I like, I love
hats. I love hats for the reason that
I could put on some mascara, some powder and some lipstick
and then stick a hat on and justfluff my hair up around the hat.
Done. Absolutely, absolutely.
That's. Like, you know what?
That's to me, that's the same assaying, oh, I can't be bothered

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brushing my teeth. It's so if you don't brush your
teeth, you don't have good oral hygiene.
Are people going to want to hangaround you?
They gotta be pretty funny, yeah.
It's. It's it's just a question of if
you care to be your best for youand the world around you.

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You learned the skills that you need for you to put your best
foot face and frock forward. And I want listeners know we're
not bashing. Any of you who do not wear
makeup, that whole Pamela Anderson, I keep calling it a
movement. I'm just going to say this.
It'll fizzle out soon because it's not working for her.
No, but it's it's true. It's true.

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She's. Just looking to she's looking to
become relevant again because she needs something to get
attention. And that's one way to do it is
to go completely the other way. Women, you know, if you've some
women are, are so lucky. They have lashes and they have
brows. They don't diminish as they age.
Wonderful. A little bit of, you know,

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powder or something to take the glow down, take shine or to even
the skin tone and a little bit of lip stuff, right can look
great. Others of us don't have that
and. When you age your, there's
texture of. Your eyelashes and your eyebrows
diminishes your eyebrows. As we age the front part of the

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brow go disappears and it goes almost back for some people,
almost back to the arch. I work with that every day.
I love the. New eyebrows and how they're
being very enhanced. I love that look.
I don't, you know, I don't go too crazy with it myself, but I

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love it when we got these dark brunettes that come in and
they've got the strong hair patterns and I love that whole
look. That's great for a 25 year.
Old dark brunette, but it doesn't work so well for a 70
year old Gray haired Dame. That same got to finished
everything, you know what I mean?
You do great things, you do great things.

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I'm very. Very happy to have met you and
thank you for giving me the timeto come on the show.
So it's a great conversation that we had with you today.
And Sharon, I want everyone to. Sharon's a great example that no
matter what your age, there are no age limits.
And her YouTube tutorials aren'tjust about makeup and hair,

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they're about empowering women to feel confident and beautiful
at every stage of life. And listeners, if Sharon's story
has resonated with any of you, be sure to check her out on her
YouTube channel, youtube.com Forward slash.
At Sign simply Sharon Tips and you can also go check out her

(01:14:53):
website at. Sharon danley.com Yes, that's my
gallery site and. My new sites coming in a couple
of weeks simply sharon.ca and visit her on the old Facebook
as. Well, public page is Sharon and.
Danley beauty and private page for going Gray and loving it and

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if anybody has any questions. For Sharon from this episode,
feel free to message her or message me on Spotify or at
[e-mail] and ask us anything and maybe we'll
get back together again and justsimply ask, answer questions
that come our way. How about that?
Yeah, that'd be great. Thank you for.
Listening. Everyone.

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And Sharon, again, thank you forjoining us.
This has been great. Thank you, Jessica.