Cyber After Hours
Cyber After Hours: The Podcast Where Real Cyber Pros Let Loose What’s It All About? Think of it as that relaxed, late-night bar conversation you have with a fellow cybersecurity pro—except now it’s on the record. Co-hosts (and longtime friends) Paul Marco and Evan Morgan bring decades of combined experience in cybersecurity, from hands-on operations to engineering and architecture. Unscripted & Authentic Every week, they draw a random cybersecurity topic from a “fishbowl” and dive right in. No filters, no tedious corporate jargon. You get genuine insights, war stories, and candid opinions born from years of running world-class cyber programs. Cheers to Learning Like a proper after-hours hangout, there’s usually a tasty beverage involved—think a Woodford Old Fashioned or something equally classy (or not). Expect a casual vibe, some laughs, and the occasional strong opinion… the kind usually reserved for off-the-clock chats. Heads-Up for Sensitive Ears These conversations are as real as they get, which means adult language can make an appearance. If that’s not your cup of tea, consider yourself warned! Episode Length & Structure Episodes typically run between 25 to 55 minutes—long enough to dive deep into complex cybersecurity issues, but short enough to fit into your commute or wind-down routine. Join us on Cyber After Hours to hear about the triumphs, the fails, and all the wisdom we’ve gained from building enterprise cybersecurity programs in highly regulated environments. Grab a drink, settle in, and let’s talk cyber the way it’s meant to be discussed—totally unscripted.
Episodes
Ever wonder if cyber insurance is a must-have safety net or just another costly checkbox?
In Episode 38 of Cyber After Hours—titled “Cyber Insurance: A Worthwhile Investment or a Safety Net with Holes?”—we dive headlong into the messy world of cyber coverage.
It’s not just about reading the fine print; it’s about deciding whether an insurance policy can truly protect you when ransomware strikes or if it’s merely a gamble with too m...
Ever wonder if simply “lifting and shifting” your on-prem strategies to the cloud might leave you with more headaches—and a bigger bill—than you bargained for?
In Episode 36 of Cyber After Hours—titled “Securing Cloud Infrastructure: Common Pitfalls to Avoid”—we dive headfirst into the real-world challenges of cloud adoption.
From the behind-the-scenes stories of trying to replicate old solutions in new environments (hint: it’s rar...
Ever wonder if cybersecurity startups are truly innovating—or just flooding the market with shiny new noise?
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—Cybersecurity Startups: Are They Leading Innovation or Just Adding Noise?—hosts Paul and Evan welcome UK-based podcast host Nick Widdop for a candid conversation about startups shaking up the cybersecurity landscape (think Wiz) and the thin line between groundbreaking innovation and buzzw...
Ever feel like compliance and cybersecurity are two teammates who just can't get along?
In this lively episode of Cyber After Hours—Cybersecurity and Compliance: Allies or Adversaries?—Paul, Evan, and special guest Carlos Bonet, Security & Compliance Sales Director at Microsoft, dive headfirst into the complex dance between staying compliant and keeping genuinely secure.
They explore why compliance often feels more like red tap...
Ever wonder why cybercrime feels like it has better customer service than your cable provider? You're not alone!
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—The Rise of Cybercrime as a Service and How to Combat It—Paul and Evan are joined by their guest, Rob Davis, SVP and Head of Digital Identity Services at Citizens, share an eye-opening (and occasionally jaw-dropping) look at how cybercriminals have turned hacking into a neatly package...
Ever wonder if those dusty legacy systems you’ve been ignoring are one breach away from disaster?
In Episode 29 of Cyber After Hours—titled “How to Secure Legacy Systems in a Modern World?”—co-hosts Evan Morgan and Paul Marco dig into the tough questions around outdated tech.
They talk about everything from finding the right work-life balance (and when it’s time to ask for help) to why “if you’re not learning or earning, it might b...
Ever felt like the pandemic was one massive, global disaster recovery test?
You're not alone.
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—Securing Remote Workforces: Lessons from the Pandemic—Paul and Evan are joined by their guest, John Vigeant, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Login VSI, to dive into how the world of cybersecurity (and office life itself!) changed almost overnight.
Starting with candid chats about the emotional roller c...
Ever wonder if Zero Trust is the next big buzzword or if it actually holds the key to modern cybersecurity?
In Episode 27 of Cyber After Hours—titled “Zero Trust: Buzzword or Best Practice?”—co-hosts Evan Morgan and Paul Marco kick things off with a friendly Star Wars vs. Star Trek debate before diving into the serious question of what it really takes to implement Zero Trust.
From the importance of saying “no” to avoid burnout, to ...
Ever wonder if universities are really prepping cybersecurity students for the real world—or just handing out degrees that look nice framed on a wall?
In this lively episode of Cyber After Hours—Developing Cybersecurity Talent: Is Academia Keeping Up?—Evan and Paul (who, humorously, admits he has a chronic name-forgetting phobia) dive headfirst into the debate about formal education versus hands-on experience.
From joking about day...
Ever wonder if you’re throwing money at cybersecurity or genuinely investing in it? In Episode 25 of Cyber After Hours—titled “Cybersecurity Budgeting: Where to Spend, Where to Save”—co-hosts Paul Marco and Evan Morgan dive into the nuts and bolts of smart spending.
Fresh off their experiences at recent conferences, including some focused on K-12 education, they share what it really takes to build meaningful connections, why shifti...
Ever feel like the faster you develop, the harder it gets to stay secure?
You're not alone—and you're certainly not imagining things!
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—Security in the DevOps Era: Balancing Speed and Safety—Paul and Evan are joined by Josh Dixon for a lively discussion that starts with relatable confessions about battling imposter syndrome (yes, even cybersecurity pros feel it!), and moves swiftly into the heart ...
Ever wonder if hype cycles fuel genuine innovation or just add to the noise?
In this lively Episode 23 of Cyber After Hours—titled “Do Hype Cycles Help or Hurt?”—Evan and Paul kick things off with some personal updates and practical productivity pointers (including a radical approach to inbox management) before tackling one of tech’s most debated topics: are hype cycles driving us forward or holding us back?
Throughout the conversa...
Ever wonder if Security Orchestration, Automation, and Response (SOAR) is truly essential—or just another buzzword in cybersecurity?
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—SOAR: Hype or Necessity?—Paul and Evan sit down with Josh Lawson to unpack exactly that, starting with some amusing (and insightful) stories on workplace culture and how company dynamics directly impact security practices.
The conversation quickly heats up as they...
Ever wonder if endpoint security truly deserves the hype as your first line of defense—or is there more to the story?
In this lively episode of Cyber After Hours—Endpoint Security: Is It Really the First Line of Defense?—Paul Marco and Evan Morgan kick things off by swapping stories about the unpredictable rollercoaster of entrepreneurship, proving once again you often learn more from spectacular failures than steady successes.
As ...
Ever feel numb when you hear about yet another data breach?
You're not alone.
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—Data Privacy vs. Cybersecurity: Where Do They Intersect?—Evan and Paul welcome Steve Ward, a seasoned cybersecurity leader turned venture capitalist, for an insightful (and surprisingly humorous) conversation on privacy, security, and why consumers barely blink at breaches these days.
From diving into Steve's impressiv...
Ever felt like cybersecurity is always the team that says “no” to everything?
Well, it’s time to change that narrative.
In this episode of Cyber After Hours—How to Prevent Security From Becoming the "Department of No"—we start off sharing laughs about New York snowstorms and the funny ways different cultures react to weather surprises.
But quickly, the discussion dives deeper, exploring Simon Sinek’s powerful concept of playing the...
What happens when AI meets quantum computing in the heart of your SOC?
In this week’s episode of Cyber After Hours, we’re joined by Edward Wu, CEO of Dropzone AI, to explore just how fast the cybersecurity game is changing—and what it means for defenders trying to stay one step ahead.
From the frozen roofs of Syracuse to palm-sized quantum machines, we dive into a wide-ranging conversation on the future of cybersecurity.
Edward sha...
Ever wonder what a candid bar-side chat can teach us about the future of cybersecurity regulation?
In the latest episode of Cyber After Hours—“S1 E17: What’s Next for Cybersecurity Regulation?”—we look back at how this podcast began and share a key realization: it’s not just about cybersecurity or AI.
It’s about perspective, and how understanding the “why” behind decisions can transform the way we tackle complex, tech-driven challe...
Ever wonder how someone juggling customer service, consulting, and sales can still find time for a debate on decaf coffee and cyber threats?
In this episode of Cyber After Hours, we sit down with Eric Gerena—whose colorful career path gives him a refreshingly unique perspective on staying motivated and delivering real value to clients.
From demystifying the art of sales (spoiler: it’s really about solving people’s problems) to reve...
Ever wish strategic planning felt more like a celebration and less like a chore?
In this episode, we pop the cork on what makes a planning session truly satisfying, from the thrill of crossing off to-do items to the power of hitting pause for some much-needed self-reflection.
Get ready to raise a glass—because by the end of this conversation, you’ll be toasting the art (and fun) of mapping out your next big moves.
Once the party ...
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