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October 1, 2025 42 mins

In episode 155 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Tony Sager is joined by John Gilligan, President and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they reflect on 25 years of progress for CIS and look ahead to the future. They explore the driving forces behind "CIS 2.0," including the shift toward addressing multidimensional threats, expanding CIS’s audience, and leveraging tools driven by generative artificial intelligence (GenAI). Their discussion highlights how CIS is adapting to a new era while staying true to its mission-driven roots and foundational principles. Here are some highlights from our episode:

  • 01:11. The need for a mission-driven nonprofit to support the role of government
  • 04:28. Understanding the primary catalyst behind CIS 2.0
  • 05:53. Multidimensional threats, expanded audiences, and revamped tools as adaptive opportunities
  • 12:57. The challenge of linking technology risk to operational risk
  • 13:45. How attackers tend to be more systems-level thinkers than defenders
  • 15:50. Culture as a support system for navigating the evolving skills and processes of CIS 2.0
  • 22:24. Collaboration, partnerships, mission focus, and culture as foundational CIS elements
  • 31:11. How our engagement with state and local governments, thought leadership, and products and services will change going forward
  • 40:47. Parting thoughts and an important reminder

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