A New Era for Oklahoma's Cycling Scene - GCXC MTB Race Series - Cycling Oklahoma

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What is up?
Cycling Oklahoma?
Thank you so much for tuning infor another episode.
This one is different and it'swonderful.
I really enjoy being able tobring the stories of our awesome
athletes and let them sharetheir life stories and their
events that they've done and allthat kind of stuff.
This one is a race promoterepisode and I'm super excited

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about it because it isshowcasing a new series in
Oklahoma called GCXC MountainBike Race Series.
It's going to be awesome.
All the details are in thisepisode and it's going to be
featured in the eastern part ofOklahoma, northeastern part of
Oklahoma.
It's a full race series.
They are going to have sixevents.

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They have some really cool newideas and fresh ideas that
they're going to try as far asage groups and your categories
and how they're doing theirchampionship.
They're going to have aco-champion with another series
and I just want to don't want tospoil it, so I want you to
listen to it.
But g?
Uh, gcxc starts March 9th.

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Registration is open.
Um, and it's going to be thefirst race is going to be kind
of in that Turkey mountain area,if you are familiar with that
area of Tulsa.
Uh, so I really am excitedabout this episode.
Um, it was really fun recordingthis one and I'm excited to see
what happens.
So, um, it'll be fun.
Uh, all the links andeverything are in the show notes

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, so please go there check itout, but I do think that you're
going to find some info on thisone, even if you're not planning
on racing.
I really hope that you listento it to hear some new, fresh
and exciting ideas and thingsthat are going to be changing
around Oklahoma when it comes tomountain biking and the
mountain bike scene.
I think it's going to donothing but great things as far
as helping tour to dirt and, youknow, getting more people into

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the sport and staying in thesport.
I think it's really going tohelp everybody.
I'm excited for tour to dirtthis year.
They're changing some thingsand are going to have some new
race venues that we haven'treally had recently, so it's an
exciting time for mountainbiking in Oklahoma and I am so
honored to be able to bring uhthis episode to you and kind of
share that with you.
So, uh, make sure you check itout.

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Gcxc mountain bike race series.
Uh, we are going to be havingsome, uh like some race update
episodes that come throughoutthe year.
That's going to talk to some ofour racing.
I figured out a cool way to dothat, so please listen to that.
Make sure you're going tocycling Oklahomaomacom checking
out the site.
We got some blogs on there.
We got routes on there.

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You know there's been a lot oftime and money that's put into
this website and so we reallyneed to continue to share our
routes that we like for ourgravel routes and things like
that.
But all of this is made possibleby our incredible sponsors, and
I could not do it without ourincredible sponsors.
Um, we have an amazing one thatstepped up and sponsored the

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podcast for the entire year,called it's Oklahoma mountain
bike association, and thatsponsor is perfect for this
episode.
Ride ombaorg is the website.
Uh, without this group,mountain biking in Oklahoma is
not non-existent, but withoutthem it looks significantly
different, and so I'm so honoredto have them as a sponsor, I'm

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so appreciative to them to havethem as a sponsor.
We did a podcast, so if youhaven't listened to that, go
listen to it so you can see whatthey do in our state.
It's not just Oklahoma City,they do it all over Oklahoma.
They have some on their website, rideombaorg.
They have all kinds of reallycool tabs that show you like the
forum, you know, the blog, allthose kinds of things.

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But I really encourage you tosign up.
It's 50 bucks for the year.
Sign up.
That $50 goes to maintainingthe trails in Oklahoma and $50
is nothing compared to how muchtime we spend on these trails.
So I highly encourage you tojoin, become a member.
They have some upcoming events.
They have a couple work dayscoming up Sunday, february 23rd,

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at Trosper, they're going to beworking on that, which is a new
trail coming to Oklahoma City,and then they're going to be on
March 2nd working on the Drapertrails, which is also in the
Oklahoma city metro area.
But go, if you can't do the $50, I get it.
Go, donate your time and helpout, help maintain these amazing
trails.
But I'm so appreciative toOklahoma mountain bike

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association for stepping up andsponsors, so let's get back to
them.
Help them out, donate some time, donate some money, but I won't
hold you back anymore.
I hope you enjoy GCXC MountainBike Series episode and I hope
you learn a little something,and thank you again so much for
tuning in.
If you want to be a sponsor ofan episode, you want to be on an

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episode.
We want to do a couple morevideos, so we're going to need
some sponsors for that.
But thank you, guys so much.
Please reach out if you haveideas, ways that we can make
this world better, way that wecan make cycling in Oklahoma
better.
I am all about trying to sharethat with the people and connect
people that we need to make ourcommunity stronger, more fun
and more loving in all thesecrazy times.

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So get out, ride your bike,have fun and stay warm out there
and enjoy and hope to see youguys on the trails real soon.
Thank you All right, so we'regood, we're recording.
Gentlemen, this is excitingKind of came together last
minute, I mean on a short notice.
I think it was Drummond thatset this up.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I had reached out to Drummond and just seeing if he
could basically make it happen,cool.
And he said why don't you talkto ryan?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
well, introduce yourselves and let's jump into
the good stuff, because this isgonna be a good one uh ray hall
um.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Promoter for the the twisted mountain bike festival.
Uh, before that, I promoted theTurkey Mountain Bike Festival,
which was part of the Tour de.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Dirt.
And we've got Bobby Reese withCold Turkey Mountain Bike
Festival at Turkey Mountain.
Also some background withco-promoting with you know, ray
Hall, bill Clark, when did youstart Cold Turkey?
Last year was our second year.
Okay, gotcha, the wholeintention of that is to grow it

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into like a bin, build like this, like so that's cool, yeah,
river parks, someone's turkeymountain and they want to grow
it to this huge event.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
So that's awesome, I'm so.
I haven't ridden turkey sincethey redid it.
I mean, I haven't ridden turkeysince we had the end of, or it
was the last race of two orthree or of two or three years
ago.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That would have been 2021.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That was the last time I've ridden it and I know
you guys have done a ton of workout there and every time I try
to come up here it's snowed orrained or whatever, so I haven't
been able to do it.
I have done nothing out there.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Really I ride out there like three or four days a
week awesome how brutal are thedownhills.
Like the downhill runs yeah,there's something for everyone,
okay, uh, black gold ismandatory gaps.
So you, you need to know whatyou're doing.
And it's got a nice, what theycall squirrel catcher something

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on the front.
Okay, a nice little drop.
So if you, if you're notcomfortable with that, you're
not going to go further.
The rest of them um, I hopethat's the right term barrel
guys, my downhill guys.
The rest of them I hope that'sthe right term.
They're all guys, my downhillguys.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
The rest of them are all rideable.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
There's no mandatory gaps, they're all tabletops.
You can scrub it, you can bethe XC or do it on XC bike.
You don't have to have bigbikes, it's just a level of fun.
So they're all doing black gold, just that one that you have.
Okay, you have to be ready forit, but they're fun.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I knew there was some like legit downhill runs there
or some legit downhill features.
I didn't know where they wereat and I was like man downhill.
When I go to Bentonville andstuff I'm like they always scare
me because I'm like is blackreally like real, real black, or
is it like a dark blue?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
It's a big difference , right yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
The black is to one.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, you could ride any of them, and they have
optional lines too.
Okay, so you know you canprogress to some of the jumps,
even on the same on-hills.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh okay, cool, are they still building more out
there?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
They're building more trails.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh, they're just doing, more, they're doing.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Purgatory, which is across 61st Street right now.
It's going to be, I believe,about nine miles of trail and
it's going to be they're callingit blue, black, xc trails.
Okay, I've ridden over there acouple times.
We haven't been on it in thelast couple weeks to a month
because of the weather.
Yeah, um, it's so soft thatwe're leaving ruts, but it is.
Uh, it's got that keystone feel.

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Keystone trails.
It's.
It's super techie, but therocks are placed just right
where you can pedal through mosteverything.
But you're on rocks and you'rejust rolling.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Is that where Lollipop was?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yes, that's where Lollipop and Zoe was.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
So it's like the old Turkey, where it's bumpy, oh
yeah, but they're doing a goodjob.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Rock Solid's doing the work and they are really
putting together some goodtrails Super excited.
They have some skinnies, theyhave some wood features.
That's super excited.
They have some skinnies, theyhave some wood features.
In fact, I think some of thewood that's over there and I
hope this is accurate is some ofthe wood that came from the
father's day storm.
Repurposing some of those treesthat are down and bring them
here nice, it's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, anytime a good, a professional group comes in
and cuts something that's big,like that, I mean it's going to
be rideable even if it's hard,right?
That's.
The thing is like people alwaysask like my uncle lives in
colorado and he asked aboutbentonville.
He hasn't been there yet.
He's like how is it like?
What's it like?
And I'm like, well, it's hardto explain because, like,
everything is smooth andeverything is pretty and it's
wide and it's really nice.

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The hard stuff is hard becauseof they made it hard, but it's
not like when you come to likewell, think about the old
crispin and you know it's like aI don't know what to relate it
to up here but it's like youknow, you have a tiny little
spot that you can get throughand there's one line and it's
just bumpy and it just hold onto get through it kind of
section.
It's not where there's rocksplaced that you can ride on top

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of and get through it, andthings like that.
It's yeah, when thisprofessional groups do it, it
it's significantly different.
It's going to be pretty nice,it's exciting.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Like I said, you're not going to go fast but you're
going to have good times.
Okay, if you're pedaling, it'snot something, that's just a
bunch of power, it's more, andyou guys have so much trail out
here now.
Yeah, I think there's going tobe close to 44 miles when
they're done, with nine at theprocess.
You're still Turkey, butthey're calling it sanctuary, we
call it, I call it purgatory.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, Same thing, same but different.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun, yeah, doing work.
We're super excited.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
When's that going to be open?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Do you know?
In about a month and a half,two months, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, I guess we can talk about why we're really here
.
And first off, ray, I've neverbeen here.
Yeah, this place is insanelybeautiful, like incredibly
beautiful.
So, if it hasn't been a twistof note, well, you have to come
in April, april 12th, we'redoing a 12 hour and we'll get
we'll, we'll wrap everything upwith with talking about the 12

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hour, but you have to come justto come see this place.
It's gorgeous.
It pictures, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Just when you're driving in, you catch a glimpse
of the Valley.
Yeah, and then when you drive,you know, come in on the gravel
road, it opens up you.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
I was actually just thinkingabout I can remember the first
race we promoted out here.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I don't know what people thought they were coming
to, but they were like, oh,there's a house down here, yeah,
there was another race that youguys did up here that I came to
, and it was out on somebody'sprivate land.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That was over.
That was Tim and Tori's out inKellyville.
Okay, that's what I was kind ofpicturing.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, I can post it.
Yeah, that's what it was.
That's kind of his picture.
He did a great job with what hehad.
That's a fun trail.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
He only had 45 acres.
It was five miles of trail on45 acres.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, that's a fun trail.
It was a lot of trail.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
A lot of trackers.
I just remember that we sentwas no joke.
Yeah, we've got 112 acres hereand we basically we have about
seven and a half miles of trail.
Um, emma recommends 10 miles or10 acres per mile.
So you know, we're not even.
We're nowhere near that.
Yeah, um, and you know peopleask me where are you going to
build more trail?
It's, it's no, we're I, we, wewent for quality over quantity

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and I mean I had to make, I'vemade numerous reroutes.
There's a lot of times you justunless you were talking about
professional trail builder,which I'm not, and um well, even
even they, there's areas thatstumbled right.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
There's always.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Always go back and rework and re-up Right.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, that's the luxury of having it on your land
, and over time it's just goingto get better and better and
better.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think currently, as far as the actual trail, I'm
done building trail, my goal andwhat I've been doing this
winter is just improving.
I'm working on sections, justmaking them better.
I added some culverts to a fewspots where there's some
basically like erosion areas.
But yeah, it's pretty cool.
I appreciate it.

(12:53):
Yeah, we're extremely gratefulto call this home.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I'll break on this alittle bit.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
They're great.
We like to break it, or I thinkof it as four different
sections on a float relief, soyou have something a little bit
different in each little sectionof this property.
So you go from techy withelevation, some climbing stuff,
to fun, flowy and then somechunk.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's the best.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
So it's got everything.
It's a mountain biker's course.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's the fun part, when you go ride a trail and
you're like man, I got to likehit it as hard as I want with
fast, open, flowy section.
There was some stuff that kindof sketched me out a little bit
and then it had a good climb,like when you hit everything.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
That doesn't happen very often and the rock that's
here, um, I was riding with nickblackwell and, uh, he, he was
like dude, this is like rockflow and uh, and it was just.
There's areas that appearvisually like it should be rocky
, because there's bouldersscattered, you know, littered
around, but we've done a reallygood job of making a path that

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you ride on, so it's very right.
Right, it's just.
I think you look and you seeall the you know the big rocks.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's kind of deceiving yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Someone.
Actually, just the other day Iwas going all over Tulsa.
I went to pretty much everybike shop in Tulsa yesterday
handing out flyers for the12-hour and one guy said, man, I
really want to go out there,but I heard it's just like old
school Turkey.
And I was like, not really man.
I said it's old school singletrack, but it's not old school.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Can anybody beat you out here?
Can anybody beat you out here?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I've been beat.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Ryan Drummond has the KWM right now, that's what I
was going to ask Molly?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Molly beat me in the short track On her E-bike.
It was so funny, she was socute.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I was like Molly, just go around me.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
She was so cute.
I was like Wally, just goaround me.
That's amazing.
She's like no.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I was like Wally, go around me.
You cannot have a Drummond, bethe top step when you're At
least it's Ryan.
I also promoted the race thatday too.
Okay, you've got to get thatback.
Let's talk about the new andexciting things that you guys
are cooking up and have rollingout.
Goodness, in a month, we're amonth out.

(15:11):
We're recording on the 6th ofFebruary, so you guys are what
less than a month now?
Right In the third, it's theninth, ninth, okay, so the
weekend after that?
Okay, so we're right there.
So let's talk I don't knowwhich one of you guys want to
take off and leave, but kind oftalk about why we're here, and
then let's get into the detailsof it and explain a new chapter
in Oklahoma mountain biking.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, I'll start off and I, you know, ran our good
French for a long time, so I'msure we'll just tag team it.
But yeah, gcxc Organicallybetween the race directors here
in this region.
There's a lot of need for Racesover here.
We have the infrastructure now,with the courses over the last

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five years, because of Turkey,because of Twisted Oak,
claremore, you have a lot oftrails up here.
Right, so we've caught up.
So, man, it just really startedover text when we're all just
texting each other and nextthing we know we're like damn,
did we just start a race?
And the real concept is just tobring people back to racing,
back to mountain biking, givethem something to look forward

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to, something, a target to shootfor, motivation to train within
our region.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So this is definitely saying right now up in the
northeast part of the state yes,Okay, yes.
That's the least we're.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
We actually when we announced it we actually had.
There were three otherpromoters that were part of the
Tour de l'Ere series thatreached out to us within 24
hours asking if they could be apart of GCXC and obviously we
were flattered but we declined.

(16:51):
We're trying to keep itcentralized around Tulsa, but
that tells you something.
We're not the only promotersthat were wanting some change.
Yeah, I think a big drivingforce of it for me was USA
Cycling.
I wanted to branch away fromUSA Cycling because of the fees

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predominantly.
And, that being said, if USACycling rep and we tossed around
some ideas, basically the pointsystem is ridiculous.

(17:38):
Coming from Oklahoma, you'reforced if you actually want to
be competitive at nationals,you've got to travel all over
the country to chase points.
Let's face it, that's what lessthan 2% of the racing
population.
So why are we paying all thesefees if none of us have a
legitimate chance to actuallycompete?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And or want to the ability to.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So with that, that's when Bobby, like Bobby said it
was, you know, it was some sometexting going on and I think it
was right before my it was likeright before my race, um which
made it.
It was really.
It made it really difficult,you know, because I really I
really admire pom and debbie andum and it was my birthday and I

(18:26):
felt really guilty not sayinganything, but we wanted to wait
until the series was over tomake an announcement.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
We didn't want to taint the rest of the season
with this news, right?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So we're like, okay, timing is everything, Well
there's a timing place foreverything, Right yeah for sure,
we wanted to wait until theTour de Dirt season came to a
close, and then, as soon as itwas over, all right, let's rip
this Band-Aid off.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, you got to announce it at some point, right
, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
We always wanted to be transparent up front, but do
it right.
So that's when we called themeeting.
It's like, okay, we need totalk, here's what we want to do.
Let's hopefully come to anunderstanding.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, come to an understanding.
Well, I think I mean and wetalked about it briefly before
we got on here I'm sure itruffles feathers, but ruffling
feathers makes everything betterwhen it's done in the right way
and for the right reasons, andthings like that.
I mean I I understand peopleare probably a little upset, uh,
or frazzled by the situationthat there's a new race series
and now it's competition, or nowI can only race here, now

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they're not going to come here,whatever the case may be, but
like I think it just gives froma racer standpoint, there's more
opportunities to go race?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yes, well, more and more.
And let's face it, um, our, our, our change definitely,
definitely cause Tour de Dirt tostep it up a notch.
Yeah, they got their scheduleout way faster than ever before.
I've been here almost 20 years.
They dropped USA Cycling.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
It's always possible, and then they're going to push
you guys, right?
No, I mean, and it's not thatwe're trying to.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
you know we weren't.
It wasn't an attack on Tour deDirt Right, and in fact we took
a long time to actually get ourschedule out there, because we
were truly trying to make surethat we were accommodating to
Tour de Dirt, to NICA.
We want it to be where racerswhether it's kids racing in NICA

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or racers from Tour de Dirt,want to come race in ours.
There's no overlapping weekendsat all.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
No hard decisions where you're like which race do
I do this weekend?
Right, so we have a wholespreadsheet.
It took a long time we werelooking at it, putting in that.
I mean, that's a hard part toschedule, that's fun, and then
not to overlap people there's.
That was hard.
So yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Our main goal was not to compete so people could do
all of them having more qualityraces I don't see as being a
negative.
Clearly, people may get racefatigue and people from oklahoma
city may be like man, I'veraced four weekends in a row.
People from tulsa like I'veraced four or five weekends in a
row, I don't want to drive tothis other place to go to.
Like I get that, but that'spart of it.
People that also have been onvacation or had sick kids or

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they couldn't do the last tworaces.
Now they have opportunity tojump in on this race this
weekend, so it's possible.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, and the reality is is you're the, the diehards
that did the full tour de dirtseason or, you know, did their
two drops, but they did all, allthe races.
Nothing has really changed,right, there's, we have six
races.
There is probably one more racethat would be on the on the
schedule, you know, for the yearbetween tour de dirt and um

(21:33):
gcxc.
I haven't announced it yet, butI'm actually I've been working
on how the verbiage of it.
But I want to do a twisted oaktrails wants to.
I want to promote a, or saypromote sponsor, a dual series
champion, um.
So if you do our category,let's say you're the third place
overall in our category and youhappen to be, you competed, I'm

(21:55):
sorry, you finished in the Tourde Dirt season.
So basically, I'm going to gothrough all of our categories,
I'm going to start trackingpeople that are doing both races
.
Then at the end of the year, atthe Cold Turkey, I would
basically crown a dual serieschampion.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Super cool, just something to try to throw
another carrot to do both of ourseries.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
We're all.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oklahoma mountain bikers.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'll tell you, one of my favorite races is not
actually it's not in GCXC One ofmy favorite races is Medicine
Park.
I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's my favorite.
I love it, I love it.
I love everything about thatplace.
I love that place, man,everything the gravel, the
mountain, biking, the camping,the town, everything.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I mean everything.
The only reason I didn't go outthere more in the last few
years was while we were goingthrough everything with Ashley's
cancer.
When we got everything undercontrol, I was back out at
Medicine Park.
I love that place.
It's the best.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's the only thing outside of here that has that
kind of terrain.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
The thing is you were talking about Crispin's.
I'm not trying to talk about myplace some more, but that's the
thing is there's, um, there's afew courses that just have like
a really good variety of alittle bit of everything,
whereas you've got to be awell-rounded rider, yeah, and
that's but anyway, I haven'twritten out here yet.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Crispin was my absolute favorite trail in
Oklahoma.
Hands down had everything sofun.
I like Crispin.
I'm so bummed to see it.
Maybe someday it'll come back,but yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, that's one thing with this place.
I've actually had severalpeople kind of compare it to a
Crispin as far as the fact thatit has such diversity.
Yeah, that's nice Well let'sget into.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Let's just start with the schedule, now that we kind
of know what it is, and kind ofget into your dates.
I mean, I know it kicks off inMarch.
March is when it kicks off andthat's going to be here in Tulsa
, right by Turkey, correct?
Yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So that is right across from Highway 75, from
Turkey Mountain, it's BellasPark.
Okay, yeah, what is that?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
61st and yeah, okay, okay, and so that's, and that's
the one that you guys have arace at last year, right?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
so that's hails bells , that is Chad's.
Greg promotes that with hisrace team center and that starts
.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
You said March 9th, march 9th, okay, and that'll be
the kicking off the tour,kicking off the season, kicking
off everything.
It's a great race.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's challenging.
It's got some technicals, got anice little climb that'll kick
you in the gut.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And we can get into more of the details of what you
guys have different in yourseries.
That's, different than Tour deD'Or, different than traditional
stuff that we're used to inAero Coloma, different than
traditional stuff that we thatwe're used to in aero coloma.
But I'm assuming that thingsare going to be more of that.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Um uci style lap situation we're trying to we're
trying to create more spectatorfriendly.
Yeah, okay, that's the mainstrategy yeah, that's so.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
The thought is you know, no one wants to drive two
hours or whatever and do one lapright, they take off and they
tell their level and take youcan see you, you again, when I
finish.
Yeah, um, but we like that thatjust.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
But you know, proud participation, more laps, more
opportunities for shenanigans onthe course, right, yeah, that's
great I mean that's what makescross cycle cross great is
because everybody gets to watchthe whole time and heckle and
you see everybody's.
But you actually get to see andthat's what I like about going
to the crits and stuff, causeyou get to see like dynamics and
things happening, peoplepassing you to actually watch

(25:32):
the race?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, and so if you understand the race and you can
see some strategy, or you cansee someone closing the gap or
someone stretching it out alittle bit and you're like, oh
my gosh, that guy's on fire orwhatever hearing like what
happened?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
was it mechanical or whatever?
Yeah, I think that'd be reallyfun.
Like my girlfriend, whenever wetalked about coming to race,
I'm like don't come, okay, Iwon't see you.
Like you know, I'm like I'llsee you when I leave and I'll
see you when I start like it'sit so that's great, I love that.
So that's march 9th.
Uh, bales, is that the name ofthe trail?
Bales?
Yeah, okay, b-a-l-e-s, okay, um, what your next one?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
After that is, I believe it's Keystone no.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Hell's Bells, and then we have oh.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Hollow Hustle, hollow Hustle, okay, which is Mosier
and LaBelle Park, which is superfun.
I actually.
What date is that?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
April 19th, april 19th, april 19th.
Okay, and then where?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
is that at?
So that is at the Bell Park,Mosher Park, which is actually
really just another mile westfrom Bell you?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
can almost throw your bike.
Oh, so it's all kind of rightthere.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, that Elgin is the only thing that separates it
.
Oh, okay.
So, you can actually.
Just if you cross Elgin atBell's Park, you can jump right
on one of the trailheads.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Super cool it's actually going to be the the
main office for the bike club.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Right, bell's is yes, yes, okay.
So bike club is building.
So if you, when you come toBell's, to Hell's Bells you'll
notice construction that is bikeclub Oklahoma is going to be
headquartered.
Cool, I don't know what I cansay, but they're going to do
some really cool stuff withtheir headquarters incorporating
it into races and stuff theyhave so many awesome goals and

(27:12):
projects coming up.
I can't wait for the next threeyears with them Cool.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
So March 9th and April 19th, and then what's your
next one?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's Keystone next May the 4th.
Be with you.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
He's done Clash Okay, so it's May 4th.
Okay, he's done.
Okay, so it's.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
May 4th Okay, okay, it'll be fun and, uh, you know,
keystone is Keystone.
Yeah, Like it's.
People are familiar with that.
Yeah, it's fun.
One thing we are trying to doum, I'm going to try and submit
this in the next month orwhatever is get it down to about
a four mile lap.
Okay, right now the oldKeystone loop is six miles.
We're going to try and find away to make it about a four-mile

(27:48):
loop.
That way it gets us in that 25to 30-minute lap times so we can
do a couple more laps but thenmaybe not do some of the sketchy
areas.
So we're trying to find somereroutes and change it up to go
back to that format.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I was going to say, if you get rid of that section
where Drummond passed me, well,he lapped me there and he
floated through it like he wasriding on the road and I was
bouncing off of rocks and likecussing myself.
And he's like you just ridefaster, you get on top of him.
I mean, I heard that as hedisappeared.
Yeah, sure, okay, keystones,may 4th and then is that your

(28:24):
break?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, we'll have the summer break and then we'll kick
off on Labor Day weekend withClaremore.
Oh, is that right?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
It's Labor Day weekend right September 6th and
7th.
Okay, so the weekend Weekendafter yeah, yeah, that's
Shoreline Shred, that's another.
That's a great trade.
Our fall schedule is allfestivals, so multi-days, really
.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
So Claremont will be a multi-day, okay, and then,
well, let's get into that injust a second and what those
multi-day events are going tolook like.
So you got Claremont, september6th, and then what's your next
one?
And then Twisted Oat.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
October 4th and 5th, okay, and then November 14th
through the 16th.
Three days is cold turkey.
What was November?
What 14th through the 16th,turkey?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay, and that's at Turkey Mountain.
Okay, so well.
I mean, I know there has beenmulti-day events in the past.
Yeah, randomly here and there,throughout stuff.
What are you guys doing insideof yours to?
I mean, are they going to bekind of the traditional thing
that we've done in the past, oris?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
it going to be anything a little different.
Well, we've tried as far aslike to try to encourage people
to actually attend them hasalways been a challenge.
We tried I said we and Tour deGuerre we tried doing two bonus
points if you came and did theSaturday races, and there were
some people that werebellyaching over it and so that

(29:53):
went by the wayside.
What we are doing is, which wecan provide, the point system.
You get your cross-countrypoints.
It's a similar format to whatTambor uses.
You get 60 points for first,and then I think it's 55 for
second, 51 for third.
It goes all the way down to the30th place, right?
So our Saturday events, you geta percentage of the same point

(30:19):
system.
So basically, it's anequivalent of if you win, you
get a bonus 10 points.
Okay, Second place, it's likenine, it works its way down, it
works its way down.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
It works its way down , so it's a point one.
Six, six scale, okay, so it'sone 66 of a point.
Okay, the system, so it's justbonus points.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Are you guys going to do be doing short track for the
time trials?
What downhill stuff DifferentOkay.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
And different.
Okay, and I haven't spoke withrory, but what rory typically
does is saturday is some endurookay stuff.
There's a lot of enduro guysaround here and it's a big wave
so and they're awesome, they're,they ride with us, but they
have their, their discipline.
Saturday's enduro for shorelineshred um, if it was like last
year.
And then xc sunday okay, um ray, he does time trial, short
track.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
XC, so you'll do all three here.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right, We'll have a time trial course, then we'll
have a short track course andthen the cross country on Sunday
, which I spoke with TannerColberth.
He's been real big in NortheastOklahoma doing short track
series.
We are actually, since we'regoing to be the state
championship cross country raceon Sunday, Saturday's short

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track will be a statechampionship as well.
So it's kind of like a statechampionship weekend.
Love that.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, that's great, that's awesome.
Which, while we're on thattopic of the state championship,
you know that was a.
That's something that's been ina long time in the making.
Yeah, there's been a lot ofguys over the years inquiring.
You know, when you think aboutit, every other discipline.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Road racing, yeah.
Track racing Uh-huh.
Never understood this, but yeah, that's for a one-day state
championship and all we've everhad is a series championship.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Which is a series champion.
A series champion, it's not astate champion, right.
And I won the series one timeand I was like, eh, that's just
cause it did all the races.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Right, I mean you know and the thing is is not
everybody can commit to a fullseason, Right?
So it's been something that'sthat it's been needed.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Something's been needed and it's been talked
about by a lot of people for along time, for years.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Well, long before GCXC came along, way before.
Yes, actually, we talked, youknow.
You remember when we made theannouncement?
Yeah, we were, you know, likewe.
That was something we wanted tosee happen.
The vision on the statechampionship is that it's going
to be something that travelsback and forth between the Tour
de Dirt Series and the GCXCSeries.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I love that it could be first race.
You know, it's just all.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, and I think you get it's.
You know, I think you're goingto get more diverse champions,
because Oklahoma City peoplehate coming to the rocks because
they don't ride the rocks.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
So they suck at rocks .

Speaker 1 (33:06):
But you get the Tulsa people and they come down to
Draper and they're like thissucks, how do you write this?
And you're like you.
Just I don't understand whatyou're talking about.
You just there's like nothingin your way.
That doesn't work that way, forif you never ride super fast,
twisty tight sink tracks, soit'll also just different riding
styles.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But also because it travels, the date will travel.
So you may have a guy who youknow, like me, my son, you know
he's a robotics nerd and throughthe fall and the winter he's
full on robotics.
So I mean, I'm traveling todifferent competitions and it's

(33:45):
hard to put it together atraining schedule.
And I'm just saying like ingeneral, you have somebody that
they're not able to train awhole lot in the offseason and
they're typically like they maybe faster coming to the fall
races.
Good point.
So the point is, yeah, so likeI actually recommended that
Medicine Park actually host thefirst state championship Cause I

(34:09):
already mentioned, I lovemedicine park, I thought that
would have been awesome.
But yeah, so that would havebeen like one of the very
beginning races of the year, soyou would be the state champion
for the full season.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, I think it's.
And plus, the statechampionship should be part of
the state, and it should be.
It should travel, you shouldhave.
State championship should bepart of the state, and it should
be.
It should travel, you shouldhave.
You should see different partsof the state.
It should be on differenttrails, it should be all of that
.
That's the whole point of atrue champion.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, we, you know, this is something we talked
about last October when weannounced GCXC and which I
finally just went ahead andthrew it on the schedule as I
actually was asking the otherpromoters on GCX.
I was like hey, tom declined,the Twitter doesn't want to host

(34:57):
it.
I didn't want to just throw it,I'm like I'm doing it.
I asked them what do you allthink?
They were like dude, it wassomething you were pushing, so
why don't you do it first?
That's how I ended it.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think you're going to make a lot of friends with
that one.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, I'm hoping.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I think so.
I think that brings everybodytogether, something really
awesome, which it should.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
And then having a short track, state championship,
which is super cool, because Idon't think anybody's even
talked and thought about that.
Can you imagine if you doubledup?
That's great, man, that'd begreat.
That's great.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Um, and then ends with cold Turkey.
Uh, so what's your multi-day?
So cold Turkey?
Um, usually Friday Is it reallya race thing?
It's really fun.
We did, uh, zingo and chained.
So Zingo is one of the earlierthan one of the first downhills.
It's like five switchbacks.
It's super fun.
Um, that was a fun thing.
That was just for get peopleout there.
Saturday's Enduro okay, sowe'll have five to seven courses

(35:51):
, okay, just Enduro all day, andthen Sunday is the XC.
The cool thing that we realizedlast year about cold turkey we
only had eight riders transitionfrom Saturday to to sunday, so
saturday was its own race.
Only eight people came backsunday.
But both days had, you know,250, 300, right, oh my gosh, it

(36:16):
was two full days, but westarted looking at it.
We had our vendors, you know,who were doing merch and stuff
yeah like um, you need to go getmore merch.
Wow, there's.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
The fact that you have 400 people plus on a
mountain bike in Oklahoma.
Yeah, and a weekend isphenomenal.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
It was awesome and it just goes to show you that
there's a need.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
There's something.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yep, there's something going on For sure,
when the other races we're notseeing those numbers.
No, I've been averaging 110racers out here.
Yeah, and so.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, it's great.
I mean our goal.
We want to grow, you know 15,20% each year.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So are you guys.
You'll have an overall seriesleader or winner.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Right, we're doing.
We're doing a season, a series,a season.
Champion, you will be allowedone drop out of the six races.
Okay, champion, you will beallowed one drop out of the six
races.
Okay, we're also, um, we had,we.
We've been slow to get somethings out there because we're
obviously we're trying to makesure we get everything done
right.
Right again, we this isn'tsomething we've been planning
for six months a year, um, butwe are doing a team challenge as

(37:23):
well, okay, but which chadsprague was the driving force
behind this?
We're not allowing a 30 personteam where your top five racers
out of 30 count.
Yeah, you can have a maximum ofsix racers and your top four
count, so a lot of it.
What we're trying to do is,even so, you're, you know,
they're a big shop, fat tire.

(37:44):
They could, they couldpotentially put together three,
four teams that are competingwith them to sell, so it's just
going to make it moreinteresting, Well it makes it a
real competition and not anumbers game.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, yes, and what it allows is you know you can
have a group of buddies, go doit Right.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Have a team Right and it's really close to like what
Ray does with his endurancerides, like where you can do
like the six hour.
Have a four man team.
I mean, we already talked aboutthis last night at the ride.
It's the same structure, justbuddies who normally wouldn't
race together.
Now have a team.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, that's super fun.
Yeah, I think that's, andthat's going to create a whole
nother dynamic of just like goodtimes.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Right.
I remember in 2016, when Ifirst started the burn camp,
which I had a few guys that wereracing on burn camp and we were
gonna enter the team challengeand we did it one year and it
was like, oh, that was a waste,we can't, you can't, right there
were five of us and it waswhatever shop had the most

(38:43):
people.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
And then they sandbag it and like line people up in
certain categories, don't letthem cut up, or you race to this
age group and you race.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
There's a lot of strategy where, like, you got to
get third today even thoughyou're faster than this guy, and
that's not that's not having areal team champion, that's just
like playing the system, whichis good for you.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
So we challenge Six man teams you can obviously have
up to six.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
You can start with a four man team.
You only need four Top fourscore.
You can have up to six.
I love that.
That's super fun.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
We're not doing any rules on, you can only have, you
can't have, but like one openrider type of thing Put together
.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Whatever your teammate wants to be, okay.
You can have a junior.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
You can have open sport okay well, let's uh, I
think now they've got schedulelet's talk.
Let's jump into your categories.
Now we're talking about openand sport and all that.
That's.
Maybe it's a kind of personverbiage that people are not
familiar with, um, so let's talkabout what you guys are doing
in your categories, because Iknow it's a little different.
So, beginner, is.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
It's just what it is.
It's beginner.
It's that level where maybeyou've never raised but you want
to, you know, dive into it.
It's there for that.
Um, maybe your fitness isn'tthere, whatever it's equivalent
to a cat three it's equivalentto cat three exactly and it's
equivalent to cat three distance.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Okay, you know, we are going to try to make that,
where your finishing time isbasically like 50 minutes to an
hour and, like Bobby said, it's,you know, it's the beginner
category.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, and having an hour race is great because I
know when I was cat three therewas a handful of races I would
go to.
It'd be like a 35 minute lap.
I'm like I'm not driving toPaul's or to Kansas or whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
That's the luxury of when we're doing multiple.
Yeah, you know, to pulsar inkansas, that's the luxury of
when we're doing multiple.
Yeah, you know, the short, theshort laps you're able, for one
you're also.
It makes it more exciting foryou.
Yeah, you're dialed in.
You know, if you have somebodycoming, you have more than one
chance to learn the course, evenif you have a one bad lap.
Yeah, so then we have our sportcategory.
Let me back up a second.
You, you've, you have to kindof get out of the, the usac

(40:48):
model, and even back in the olddays, the norba model, where it
was beginner, it used to bebeginner sport and expert, um,
and which you know, cat one, cattwo, cat three, um, we, in a
sense, we're only doing two, twocategories.
Okay, we have beginner, whichis for beginners, and then we
have or I'm sorry sport, whichis going to be.

(41:11):
It is your competitive, it isyour experience category.
So if somebody, let's saysomebody, is dominating beginner
, they win the season next year.
We're going to force them up tosport.
Sport is not a category thatyou're passing through on your
way to another category.

(41:32):
Sport is a place where someonecould spend the rest of their
adult life racing as a sportracer.
That is the competitive field.
It has age groups.
So, beginner, let's back up asecond.
Beginner is 19 to 44.
Okay, 45 to 59.

(41:53):
Okay, 60 to 69.
And if WC is listening, 70 plusbecause of WC.
Okay, which is great, becausethere are some guys that are in
that age group.
Good for them.
Now they can line up and havefun together, that's even better
.
Yeah, which is great, becausethere are some guys that are in
that age group Good for them.
Now they can line up and havefun together.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
That's even better so in the sport class we have 19
to 44, 45 to 59, and 60 plus man, I've never been so happy to
age up I'm so excited about that.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Thank you.
Now there's the open category.
I said we have two categories.
Well, why is there the open?
Well, the open is there forguys like myself who like the
longer races.
I mean, I'm 50 years old and Istill want to line up against
the best.
I'm not going to win, but Iwant to line up against the best
.
And so the open class is therefor anyone who wants to

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challenge themselves.
They want to do some longerdistance races.
It's going to be equivalent indistance to Cat 1.
A sport rider.
Let's say you have a sportrider who's having a phenomenal
year.
What's Ryan Chessie?
Chessie, yeah, ryan Chessie isa great example.
He was a guy that came in likeflying, and that particular year

(43:10):
he could say you know what I'mgoing to race.
The open guys.
Well, life happens Not able totrain quite as much as a kid.
I don't know what the story,you know what it is, but you
know, as adults, we all knowlife happens and to maintain a
cat one fitness forever is noteasy, especially for a younger
family.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Man Right, if I was in my early 30s.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
There's a lot going on, a lot of changes every day,
so he could go back and racesport.
Sport is going to becompetitive, man it's going to
be big, Especially with thosebig age groups.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Some big fun age groups Can you imagine lining up
with groups like that therecould be.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Let me tell you my favorite times were in the 90s
and early 2000s, where I wasracing against.
I raced one race in Lajitas,Texas, and there were 63 of us
in the 19 to 29.
And that's racing.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
You could get kind of in that like 40 plus Right In a
category.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
The funny thing about that is is you're out there
racing, you're tired and youback off the gas a little bit.
Two people pass you.
Yeah, you're like dang it.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, you're not riding with six people and then
after like 10 minutes, you're byyourself for the next time.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah.
Or you look at their pedaling.
Well man, that whole shot yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
No, it matters.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
People better start working on their starts.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
In the 90s, I used to practice starts you better,
Randy Hagans.
We would get at a dead stop andwe would just practice our
starts.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
They become real important when you have big
fields like that Very important.
Yeah, that's awesome, I lovethat.
And then you do a cash payoutfor the open division.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yes, we're going to do a cash payout for the open
division, so that's kind of, youknow, more or less like that's
going to be the money class.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
It's just everybody against everybody.
There is no way.
In truth, I love that whichthey're like.
Well, there's only four in oursand there's eight in the other
ones.
Let's just all go together and,for whatever reason, most times
they won't let them starttogether or whatever.
But yeah, it just makes it muchmore competitive, much more fun
, for even when you have smallerfields, now at least

(45:18):
everybody's against everybody.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, and so you know there's going to be some guys.
So this is new.
I mean we're and you're goingto have it growing.
We actually If you've seen ourlogo.
It says Racing Refined.
Uh-huh, we're trying somethings differently, some will
work, some won't.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's our inaugural season.
Yeah, it is what it is.
We'll see how it goes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
You're going to make tweaks and changes.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It may end up being that next year.
We, you know it's.
It's one of those things wheredo whatever you want to work on,
which is great.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
If it's good for the sport and it makes sense.
You know, nothing's off thetable.
If it's good for the sport, ithelps grow and it helps people
come back or come for the firsttime, Then why, why would we not
try it?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So we got three categories.
You're open, is truly open.
Your age groups are differentthan your standard USA Cycling
setup, which will promote biggerfields, which is great.
What about?
They don't have to be USACycling licensed?
No, because they're not cyclingin the USA Cycling.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I'll just say this it's not an attack on USA
Cycling.
It's more or less as a promoterpaying for a product that
doesn't benefit me and itdoesn't benefit the racers.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Will that affect the cost of entry for the races?
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Our entry fee is going to be.
I'd have to pull up.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
It'll be on the website.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
It's like $35 or $40.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
It was beginner.
Beginner was $25.
Will it's like 35 or 40.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
So it was beginner was 25.
Okay, will it change per eventor will it kind of be a standard
across the board?
It's going to be a standard?
It'll be a standard?
Oh sweet, and all that will beon your site once you guys get
all that stuff the teamchallenge and all these things

(47:18):
going throughout the year.
I think are there going to becall-ups or anything like that,
because you're going to havethese big fields?
I just thought of that and thosecould be the little things that
you guys make decisions on andtweak as you go, but just trying
to think about how to make itmore prestigious to have those,
or is there going to be?
You know, I think about andthese are things that just are
coming to my head as we'retalking about them.
You know how you have a seriesleader, have a Jersey or a

(47:39):
different plate or somethinglike that.
You know, like anything likethat.
I think you guys, being newstartup, having the ability to
make these changes and quick,and being open-minded to making
some of these fun events and funchanges, I think is going to be
exciting to watch for thosethings I don't think we've
actually we haven't don't thinkthose things.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
It will happen yeah, this thing is happening, yeah,
yeah.
So we're, you know, think ourrace is gonna be timed.
We'll have points, we will haveit on a spreadsheet like, okay,
these three guys are here, theywon last week, or you know,
hell's bells, you're up front isthere going to be I just
thought of this as well like um,I know at tour de dirt we have
to buy um a number platesituation.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Will there be something like that with you
guys, because every race is sameconcept here, we'll have a
series race plate.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Okay, gcxc race plate .
It'll have the timing on there.
It'll be a one time, you know.
As long as you don't damage itright, don't fold it, don't lose
it, you keep it for the season.
That's one cost, that's yourokay are they?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
uh, we're around 15 20 for the plate, okay, and then
your rice is uh, okay, cool Ilove it.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, when you register there's going to be a
little box that says do you havea series plate?
Oh okay, check.
No, then you'll get one.
Or if you lose it, then you'lljust come to reg or two the info
box and say I didn't get itOkay, gotcha, I think we have a
QR code, right that?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
will be for.
Yes, we're going to put a QRcode out at the table for
anybody who needs another.
Yeah, okay, and basically whatwe're going to do also is on our
registration.
We're going to leave our onlineregistration up until 30
minutes before your race.
Oh, wow, so basically, whatyou're going to do?
you're going to walk up, you'regoing to scan a QR code, you're

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going to register online and youwill pay at midnight the day
before the race, or the day ofthe race, I guess.
Technically, you know the entryfee will go up because of the
same day registration, butyou're going to actually
register online.
Um, so there won't be any cashhanded out, and then, if so,

(49:44):
you'll actually be able to buy anumber plate, either there or
just do it on registration.
Nice, sorry, I'm trying to look, look this up real quick.
Just to what we're talkingabout it.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
My little co-host here what's this dog's name?
Coco?
Coco might be going home withme.
Yeah, she's a sweetheart.
Yeah, yeah, we're excited aboutthe series.
I'm excited for the series andlike and now I'm even more
excited because I didn't think Iwas going to get to come to the
first race.
I thought I was going to be outof town, but I'll be here for
that week, so I'm excited tocome up and see what you guys
have going and how it's.

(50:19):
I mean, it is going to be thesame horses that people have
raced, traditionally-ish for themost part, but a completely
different vibe and a completelydifferent setup, and I hope this
just brings energy to, Iwouldn't say, a sport that's
kind of become stagnant.
But racing in Oklahoma hasbecome stagnant across every
sport.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Yeah, so I'm excited.
People are running, a lot ofpeople are riding, not a lot of
people are racing.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, I've seen it go down significantly.
And then even my friends, youknow I'm like what are you doing
this year?
And everybody's like I know,yeah, Cause you kind of get
tired of doing the same eventsall the time.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah, we ride every week.
Yeah, and then like, you getthese you mentioned the word
race and like all the fun justleaves.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Like I can't have fun anymore.
I got to train.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I got you know you just get, and you get like just
over, like you show up and it'slike, okay, me and him might
battle and I know this, I'mgoing to average this speed on
this course and that's it.
Like well, there's no like racedrama.
That really happens Once itbecomes the sack stagnant.

(51:23):
Same courses, same race, sameeverything, same people, same
same 15 guys yeah.
So I think this would be fun.
I would love to see and I'mjust throwing this out here and
throwing you guys under thefence with this, but I would
love to see some well, I equateit back to golf, because that's
my pants, but a Ryder Cupsituation between the two series
at the end of the year, orsomething.
That would be super fun becauseyou're doing kind of an overall

(51:43):
.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Well, that's what I'm trying to do.
I'm going to try to do with theoverall.
I just need to put it out there, obviously.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I just did.
Yeah, that would be super fun.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I think it would be easy.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
The difference is.
The challenge is we have twodifferent categories.
What I would do is I'm going tobase it off of our series.
If you're a Cat 2 47-year-oldman and you are racing the 45 to
59 here, let's say that you endup finishing up the year third
overall in our series.

(52:18):
Well, and let's say that overin in a tour de dirt, that guy
raced 40 to 49 cat too.
Well, he might've been fifthplace over there, but so he's
the top person in cat to 45 to59 of Basin.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Bars that did both series, so he would be the dual
series.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I love that, nice, I think that's, and plus it
promotes people to cross bordersessentially, and what I'm
wanting to do is I haven't put anumber on it yet, but for the
open rider, mel, which we've got, I was wanting to put a cash
prize out there.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
So, basically um if you can make that happen right.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Well, I love that.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
And I love having a dual series thing and I think it
just promotes each other.
No, absolutely I want.
Hopefully tour is on board andwants to do things.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I'm disappointed.
Like I was looking at um, I waslooking at Tour de Gert's
schedule and I can't make.
I would have to take vacationfrom the fire department to make
a couple of the races that arecoming up and I'm going to still
try to make it happen.
I want to do as many of theraces as I can Right.
I'm actually looking forward tonext year.
I'll be retired and I plan onwinning both series.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Oh, oh, drumming, I was going to say Drummond,
better start training.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Let's talk about.
We talked about interviews andstuff.
So basically what we're doing iskids.
We are going to do a kids cuptype of race as well.
The kids race is totally free.
Awesome, they don't buy,obviously, because it's they
don't buy some stupid USAClicense for an eight-year-old to
race.
So it's free, 30 free.
Any junior.
If you're junior categories,you know, 18 and under, we're

(54:01):
going to be $20.
Awesome, we're trying to makethat a little bit economical.
Your cat, I'm sorry your sportgot to get out of that.
The sport and your open.
We're going to be $30.
And then your beginner aregoing to be $25.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's pre-reg.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
We are going to have same-day registration, so
obviously try to encourageeverybody to pre-register for
races.
It just makes it easier.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
It helps those promoters gauge having the right
stuff there Food trucks andwater and support and volunteers
when we have a general idea ofwhat this?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
is going to be honestly as a promoter.
I love same day registration.
Come pay me more money.
Yeah, Bonus money Honestly ifyou, I mean it's, it's bonus
money, right, but it does youknow it makes it.
It's always nerve wracking, butit does you know, it's always
nerve-wracking.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Logistics.
It's good to have too.
One thing I've realized withTurkey, because Turkey is way
more public than the rest of thecourses here we have, man,
probably 20 riders that weekendthat just show up to ride and
they're like what's going on?
Pulled Turkey Mount, like this,oh really, like, yeah, go try
the loop, come back If you wantto do it, come rest and they'll
go do a loop and then they'llsign up and I'm in.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, I wanted to address one more thing on entry
fees and this is just on USACycling.
When we were meeting with thatregional rep, he asked us
because we were talking aboutthe fees the amount of fees you
have to pay for USA Cyclingofficials for car minutes.

(55:37):
He said well, maybe your entryfees aren't high enough, raise
your entry fees so we can getthat.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
It's not allowed.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
That's what's wrong with them.
That's what we'll do.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Hey, my buddy who wants to race and he has three
kids Right, I'm going to getmore money from you.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Right, let me just make it harder for you so I can
send it to USA Cycle, right yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I mean, I get they have a point.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I mean they have a place but that's the thing we
are trying to make it where?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
you know.
So we're passing on the savings, obviously Right.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
That's what brought this whole thing up on injury
pricing.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I'll touch on the USAC thing too, since we're on
it.
You know USAC's great Like theyhave a purpose For Oklahoma
Racing.
We didn't have the base rider.
We don't have like the strengthin the younger groups, the
beginners in sports, the juniors.
It was kind of the cart beforethe horse right.
So with the points with USACyou're catering to that 1% to 2%
who are chasing the pointsdoing a lot of travel.

(56:39):
You're losing everyone else.
So when USAC becomes relevantagain because we built our state
to have a competitive mountainbike scene where even people
from neighboring states are likeman, those guys in Oklahoma can
ride, then that's when it makessense to us.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I agree it's probably a different topic, but when we
were talking to the regional rep, the whole USAC points was
something that we reallyhammered on.
We're punished in Oklahomabecause we are a smaller
populated state.
It was like, how can we changethat?
The USAC rep said what if weare a smaller populated state?
And so it was like how can wechange that?
And the USAC rep said what ifwe did a regional championship?

(57:21):
And I'll be honest with you,I've been mountain biking for a
long time and I would love to beable to host a regional
championship or participate in aregional championship to
qualify to go to nationals andactually have a decent call-up
without having to travel allover the country.
So you know, I may end uppromoting a race under USAC

(57:44):
again in the future, just notright now.
Just not right now, not untilthey make a change and they make
it worth my while and yourwhile as a racer.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
And the regional thing is a great idea, because
now that you say that, I've beencoming back to other
disciplines in endurance sportsand I think XTERRA is the only
one that I know of that's likethat and they have an XTERRA
regional and if you do a certainthing there, then you go to
nationals from there, but that'syour qualifier instead of
chasing the heights, and thething is they could still allow
anybody to go to nationals anduse that code.

(58:14):
It's just another way to get in.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
But if you have a regional and you actually podium
in the regional race, then youget points that are going to
make it worth your while toactually travel and you're not
just donating money to the cause, right?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
So I'm traveling around, just to be six and seven
row call-ups.
Yeah, yeah, traveling around,just to be, you know, six and
seven row call-ups.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, so where can people like I'm going to put a
lot of this information in theshow notes for people to see,
and that's why I've been takingnotes here and I'll probably
reach back out to a couple ofclarifications that I didn't get
but I know you have a Facebookpage, so that's is it?
Gcxc on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
GCXC series.
Series Okay, gcxc series is.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
And then we have a website that should go up by the
end of next week, okay, andit'll have all these links.
We're just really trying to getit right, correct?
Yeah?
Yeah, let me confirm that.
So the Facebook is GCXCMountain Bike, mtb Race Series,
race Series, mtb Race SeriesOkay, and we're on Insta as well

(59:20):
.
Same thing on Instagram, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
And our website is going to be GCXCSeriescom.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
GCXCSeriescom.
Okay, all right, and I'll givethose links on there.
Um, and this will come out onthe 15th, so we'll put this one
out.
Um, so it's a couple of weeksbefore your event.
Um, hopefully we can get someOklahoma city people on Western
Oklahoma people up here to dothis.
Um, I mean, I feel like we'vecovered it all.
Is there anything we haven'tcovered?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Um talk about my 12 hours.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, let's wrap it up with the 12 hour.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
So the 12 hour is coming up on April 12th.
I normally do it at the end ofMarch, but there's a little race
in Arkansas called theWashtenaw Challenge that ended
up being on the same date asmine, so I kicked my back a
couple weeks.
The race it's called the 12hours of Twisted Oak, but there
is more than just the 12 hour.

(01:00:17):
There's a three hour option,there's a six hour option and
then there's the 12 hour.
Um, the three hour you can dosolo or you can do a two person
relay team you know one personon the course at a time and then
in the six hour you can do solo, you can do a two personperson
relay or you can do a up to fourperson relay.
The 12 hour same thing solo,two person, four person.

(01:00:43):
Um, what I'm going to dodifferent this year?
I'm going to do the same formatas what I did at uh, our race
in october, the cross countryrace.
We have a flyover that you'regoing to have, so you're going
to be able to come through thespectator zone twice per lap and
what I'm going to do is I'mtrying to make it as
beginner-friendly as possibleand allow people to do a
half-lap option.
So if you have a beginner riderthat let's just say that they

(01:01:06):
are nervous on the technicalpart of the race course.
Well, they could just do thesouth loop.
That's cool, do the south loop,that's cool.
Um, and also what it does is,let's say, you're a part of a,
or you could be solo or you canbe a relay.
But particularly if you're arelay and you have a mechanical
out, on course, you don't haveto do the full lap, right, you

(01:01:26):
come in to the, the pit zone,that's your half lap and your
teammate can take off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah, because it's a awesome Because it's a 12-hour
race and it would suck on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Hour three, yeah, hour three to break a chain.
And now you're a lap down andyou're done, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
You know, because you had to walk you know five miles
.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yeah, that was awesome so it will make it more
competitive for the teams.
The downside to it is so, ifyou know you have a team of four
let's say it's team number nineevery part, all four racers
have number nine number plate.
Okay, and um, they have numbernine rfid tag, so the system

(01:02:05):
only knows that number nine cameacross the line and so that's
how we're going to be able to dothe half lap option.
But the downside is is when youlook at your online results,
you'll have to remember theorder that you wrote in.
If you're wanting to look, ifyou're wanting to, you know if
you want to get in and see ifyou had the fastest lap of your
team, right, you know?

(01:02:25):
but there's a thing thateverybody uses called Strava, so
you can still say no, that wasmy lap, just claim it, I think
that even if there's somebodywho's disappointed because they
won't be able to just see theirname with the lap time, but if
that person has a mechanical,they're going to be damn glad
they can come into the pits andhand the baton off to their

(01:02:46):
teammate.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah, that's a nice one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
So that's something we're doing differently this
year.
The teams there is male teams,there are female teams, teams,
there's co-ed teams as well.
You have to have at least onefemale on your team, do you on
the co-ed?
And the biggest thing is isthis race is a fundraiser for a
cancer patient.
The first year it was my wifewe raised money for for while we

(01:03:12):
were going through her chemo.
And uh, last year we we found alady named amber cartwright and
uh, amber still going throughher treatment.
We donated 12 000 to her familyto help with.
You know, get them through, youknow what they're going through
.
And uh, this year it turns out,unfortunately, our good friend,

(01:03:33):
mark taruki is battling stagefour, uh, colon cancer as well.
Yeah, so every, every dollarthat we can make from this race,
we're turning over to mark.
Um, mark's an incredible man.
Um, if you're, if you're incycling, whether you're track,
road, you know mountain bike,and even if you're probably

(01:03:54):
multi-school, mark has done itall.
Mark is actually from NewZealand.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
But you had your podcast with him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
In case someone didn't hear it listen to Mark's
podcast.
He's an incredible man so kind,so kind.
He was Bike Club 30 years ago.
Brian Duvall is a good example.
Jake Lasley those are guys thatraced on Team Pow is a good
example.
Jake Lasley, those are guysthat raced on Team Powertrain
under Mark.
He trained them, took them toraces and those guys are

(01:04:22):
obviously still competitiveracers going into the 50s now.
And he's still turning outpowerful riders and he's still
turning out powerful riders.
Drummond Mark was Drummond'scoach for a year.
He's just and that's we'retalking.
You know cycling and then, justas a human being, he's just.
He's the best.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah, he's a great guy.
I've never heard anybody notsay those exact words about him.
I'm not I mean, I don't knowhim outside of our podcast and
the time that we talked there,but I've never talked to anyone
who has not said he is the bestdude that you'll ever meet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, he's got a heart of gold.
So like we used to do thisthing at Turkey Mountain on
Thanksgiving, you know turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
We're drinking wild turkey on Turkey Mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Wild turkey and Mark made it big because Mark started
promoting it and then heactually started you had to come
and bring.
You had to bring a food item.
He would go and donate to thefood bank.
Just always giving, alwaysgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah, well, and I was going to say I mean, I know we
talked about it when we did yourpodcast Even if you can't make
this event, donate or sign up,even if it's a question, sign up
because the money goes to him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
And you can go to our website, twistoattrailscom.
You site twistotetrailscom, youclick on the 12-hour.
There is a link for a donatelink it's called Spot Fund,
which actually I was checking ityesterday and, ashley, she even
reset it and everything, butit's still showing data from
last year.

(01:05:49):
But it's obviously the moneythat's in there is going to Mark
.
Yeah, but you would see somecomments from a year ago, okay,
and we're trying to get them toremove that.
But there is a donation link onthere when you register for the
race.
There's actually a questionWould you like to make a

(01:06:09):
donation to Mark more than justyour entry fee?
Okay, and I've noticed there'sbeen.
Right now I've got a handful ofpeople who have registered and
probably half of those peoplehave made an extra donation to
Mark.
I try to make the entry fee,the entry fees.
I've seen I did some lookingaround around the country in
other formats and we're cheaperas far as the entry fee compared

(01:06:34):
to, like the 24 hours in thecanyon.
But, and we're cheaper, youknow, as far as the entropy
compared to, you know, like the24 hours in the Canyon.
Right, but it's for a goodcause.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, it's for a good cause, and if there's any
corporate people out there,business owners that want to
donate.
They have a way to donate alittle extra.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Absolutely, you know, and that's not just for the
12-hour.
If there's somebody who'sinterested out there that wants
to help us out with GCXE, to bea sponsor of the series, we
would welcome you with open arms.
We've been so engrossed withbuilding the series.
Yeah, honestly, we haven't evenseeked sponsorship.

(01:07:08):
Yeah, like our website, me,bobby and the rest of the guys
we all dove into our pockets anddonated money to build our
website Not cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
No, not if you want it to be decent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
There's been other expenses that we've had All out
of pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
We believe in this so much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
I think it's going to be a home run I never really do
think it's going to be a homerun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
I do want to touch on one thing.
All these races are foot racersfor usually a nonprofit or a
trail system.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
So none of it really goes back to our pockets.
We're volunteers, right.
So there's all Special Olympics, right.
Hell's Bells goes to theSpecial Olympic athletes, ray
Burn Camp.
Then we have Fairmore andTurkey.
Those funds actually go back totrail remediation and repair,

(01:07:59):
so it goes back and it funds thetrails, because those are
nothing set up there, right,there's not an entity that just
works on the trails all day,right.
So that's pretty unique becauseit's all really a non-profit
system.
Yeah, it's all really anonprofit system.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Yeah, it's all for the right reason.
Just get people healthy, getpeople having fun and get people
outside and try to makesomebody else's life better.
What else could you ask for?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
We need more people to ride with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Hopefully we can get you some flatlanders to come up
here and ride with you.
The trails are, I would say ourtrails are getting a lot better
, we're getting a lot betterwith building our, our trails.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
They are a lot more rideable than they used to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
They are come don't be scared feel free to hit us up
on on social, say, hey, I'mgonna be in town this weekend
with someone.
Show me around.
I guarantee like I'll doeverything I can to meet you.
As long as I don't have lifegetting away, I can get you tied
in with someone.
Ray will ride with you out here.
Um, they really are some reallyenjoyable.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Yeah, don't be scared of them, like I think that's a
big thing.
A lot of Oklahoma city peopleare very scared of the trails
and Tulsa because you hear thehorror stories of the old Turkey
Right, and everybody likes tobrag about the old Turkey.
They're like oh, it's like.
Yeah, I mean when I camepassage, but it's not like that
anymore.
Even from when I wrote it thefirst time to when I rode it a

(01:09:11):
couple years ago.
It's not even close to the same.
Is it rocky in Vice Keystone?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Yeah, there's some sections that suck you can make
these as gnarly as you want,right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Or you can you just stay on the new stuff or flow it
can get better though andthat's the thing with mountain
biking that I think is so greatis it can be rocky, it can be
skip, like in Ult city.
That's just like how hard canyou pedal, you know, and ride on
on road bike, essentially likethat's.
That's the beauty of it.
So I don't.
I want people to not be scaredof coming up here.
That's the big thing.
Yeah, because it's not scary.

(01:09:41):
Please do, and we have enoughnow that there's really enough
trail systems.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
You can ride a those in one day and that's a 20-mile
loop.
That's awesome.
And that's not even breakingoff and doing variations of
lines, right.
Claremore is 35 minutes away,mm-hmm, right I love.
Claremore.
Twisted Oak is still just 25,30 minutes away, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
So if you want to do like a weekend weekend, you
could really ride.
You know six or seven differenttrail systems.
One question I have abouttwisted goat do they need to
contact you before they come outhere?
Uh, yeah, I, I, um, I've hadone person show up unannounced
and they had driven fromoklahoma city and I'll let it
ride.
You know it is our home.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
yeah, it's your, it's literally your backyard, it's
our backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yeah, so I do you know.
I've put my phone number outthere on all of my you can reach
you on any of the socials.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Reach out to me on Facebook, you know slide into my
DMs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
You know creepers that are listening to this have
done that before, so I do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I would love for people to come out and ride uh
just let me know or contact me,and you know, is today, tomorrow
, whatever right time, and I'mgonna say yeah but you need to
have a clue.
Somebody's showing up here forsure which just don't want
someone also wrecking out thereby themselves, right?
Uh, I don't find them for twodays.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Right, yeah, exactly For sure, cool.
Is there anything else you guyswant to wrap up with, or we?

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
we cover it all Just you know, come give us a chance,
like we have a great, we have agood series, so come ride, do
tour de dirt, do both series, Ithink both some variation of
both series.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
But yeah, gcx is just on this side of state.
I will tell you, I love thatthe attitude on y'all side is
like we're here for both, likeit's not pick us over them, and
I greatly appreciate that Igreatly appreciate that and it's
nice to see that I mean we'veall, we all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
I have teammates that are in okc from from my road
days and my mountain bike days,so there's still people I love
to see when the winter comesthrough.
And there I was, like man, youknow, good to see you.
And, like I said, it's justgoing to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
The sport, yeah, here's the deal, whether you
live in Tulsa, whether you livein Oklahoma.
City whether you live inMedicine Park, if you're
promoting a race also, you'renot doing it to get rid, we're
all doing it because we love thesport, right, we're all doing

(01:12:17):
it because we love the sport,right.
Um, you know, tom and debbiebeing the you know promoters of
of tour de dirt, they're not.
They're doing it because theylove the sport.
You know cory white for so manyyears he put his heart and soul
into tour de, tour de dirt.
You know it's and no, I meaneverybody you know, everybody
here.
We all have the same goal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
We're just trying to do a little differently and I
think that after it all, thedust settled, you know there's
guys that are like, well, thisis pretty cool, I'm going to be
able to do a series withouthaving to commit to doing 10 all
over the state, and not evenjust in the state, right To
Wichita Falls Falls, toIndependence, kansas, so you can

(01:12:59):
just focus on your small seriesor you can do both.
Still, there's probably going tobe fall off on people doing
both.
People did both because theywere forced to.
So we're hoping that we pick upsome more people that didn't
want to do the whole thing and Iand I would imagine there's

(01:13:20):
going to be a lot of people thattoward it or sees that.
You know, if you look at, ifyou look at the number plates,
for example, of toward it,there's we were averaging 110
racers at our race, but I betyou they probably sold 300

(01:13:40):
number plates through last yearand that goes to say there's a
lot of people that just did onesand twos.
Yeah, they didn't do them all,and now they might be a little
bit more apt to do them all.
So let's tour dirt.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
That's a commitment in your region, right, so you
can commit to a green countrythat's one day.
Travel Just like Tour de Dirtmost of it's on that side of the
state.
It's achievable to hit allthose and not be expensed with
traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
I think it's definitely helped rearrange the
racing schedule and racing scenefor the better for both sides
of the state, but for the stateas a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
And again, though, the diehards can still do both
Exactly, and they will, and theywill.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's people that would race
seven days a week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Yeah, I think it would be badass to be the first
person to win both series.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
And do every race of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Right, whatever category it is, it'd be like I
was the champion in both series,I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
And then if you could throw on a little double dip in
the state championship, yeah,that'd be awesome man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
It's got me motivated Like I haven't had a motivated
race to race in a long time, andI've been training and eating
right just so, like man, I canrace in my area and now the
juice is worth the squeeze.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
I love that Cool.
Well, you mentioned the statechampionship.
I really want to hit that onthat again.
I really hope that that I hadactually talked to somebody that
lives in the in the Oklahomacity area and there were some
disgruntlement over and that'swhy I brought it up earlier over
me promoting the first you knowone day state championship.
I truthfully threw my name inthe hat because it was like if I

(01:15:15):
don't do it, it's not going tohappen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
And I had reached out to Tour de D'Or.
I actually recommended thatthey you know Tour de D'Or has
been around for so many years.
Hey guys, I think it should beon y'all's series this first
year.
I even recommended you knowMedicine Park, but it became
apparent to me that nothing wasgoing to happen.
So I even recommended you knowmedicine park, but it became
apparent to me that nothing wasgoing to happen.
So it was like you know what?
This needs to happen.

(01:15:39):
So we're doing it year one nextyear, for 2026.
I hope that a a tour de dirtpromoter steps up and maybe it's
T-Bird, maybe it's the firstrace of the season next year,
you know, but it's going totravel.
I hope that I'm startingsomething that's going to
continue on and travel aroundthe state and got and you know
guys and gals are going to beexcited to do that one day state

(01:16:01):
championship and then you getto rock your Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
That's so cool.
And it will mean so much.
Yeah, for sure Jersey and yougo to any.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
We don't have the funding right now to buy a
jersey, but what I am doing is Imay try to see if I can't make
a jersey happen, but what Iplanned on doing was doing a
state championship belt bucklenot like a custom one, and that
is going to be part of theTwisted Oak race in October.
That's going to be part of theTwisted Oak race.
Like two in one.
So it's going to be two in one,okay race in October.

(01:16:32):
That's going to be part of theTwitch Go race, so it's going to
be two and one.
Okay, technically it's almostlike there's three and one at
that race, because you've gotthe Omnium, you've got the state
championship and it's part ofthe GCXC.
I love it, bring it.
I love it All worth points too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
That's even better.
Gentlemen, I appreciate yourtime and I'm excited to see what
happens.

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