February 27, 2024 • 40 mins
Ever wrestled with the symphony of a screaming alarm and a toddler's early morning call to action? Well, join me as we tackle the trials of parenting while chasing our digital dreams in the latest Dad Mode podcast, featuring the one and only Bearded Nova. Together, we'll unpack the seasonal impacts on our daily hustle, and Nova shares his riveting transformation from a laid-back gamer to a structured content creator. Whether you're a fellow parent trying to squeeze gaming into nap times or a night owl aiming to turn those streams into dreams, our candid conversation is filled with relatable moments and valuable insights.
From the serene countryside to the electrifying world of Twitch, Bearded Nova recounts his streaming journey that began on the quiet frontiers of Facebook. As we wander through the bustling streets of online communities, we'll uncover the magic of raids, the progression of streaming setups, and the wonders of technological advancements like NDI that can take your content to the next level. For those curious about the steps it takes to transition from casual play to live broadcasting, this heart-to-heart is your behind-the-scenes pass to the dedication it takes to share your gaming world.
Let's face it, the tightrope walk between gaming, streaming, and family life is no circus act—it's the reality for many content creators like Nova and myself. In this episode, we get real about the juggle (and occasional struggle) of producing fresh content for TikTok and Twitch while staying true to the joy of gaming. We even dig into the nitty-gritty of streaming resolutions and the commitment necessary to engage with your online tribe and keep the content flowing. So, grab your headphones and a cup of your favorite brew; it's time to explore the rewarding, albeit demanding, adventure of content creation through the eyes of those who live it every day.
Josh aka Bearded_Nova
I'm from Australia and am what you would call a father who games. I have 5 kids so not as much time to game as I used to. But I still game and stream when I can. So come join me on Twitch in chat as we chill out.
Business Inquiries: Bearded-n0va@aussiebb.com.au
Josh aka Moorph
I'm a US-based husband and father of two boys. I work full-time and have been a content creator since 2000. I'm a YouTube partner, Twitch and LiveSpace streamer who founded a content creation coaching company called Elev8d Media Group (elev8d.media). I'm a blogger, streamer, podcaster, and video-er(?).
Business Inquiries: josh@elev8d.media
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Stand by, stand by Switching from Human Mode to Dad
Mode, initializing Sequence in3, 2, 1.
This is Dad Mode, the podcastwhere we navigate the chaotic
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realms of parenting, gaming,content creation, work and hell,
just life in general.
We're diving into thechallenges of raising kids in
the digital age, from socialmedia madness to navigating the
gaming landscape.
We're talking about it all,especially from a dad's
perspective.
Whether it's conquering thelittest game, creating content
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that's more than just a hobby,or just trying to keep up with
the ever-changing tech landscape, we're right there with you.
We want to help you navigatethis wild journey of parenthood
and modern life, from balancingfamily time to managing your
career and still squeezing insome gaming and content creation
.
It's all about fun, some dadwisdom and a whole lot of dad
(01:08):
mode.
Now your hosts Bearded Nova andmore.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Welcome back to Dad Mode.
Today we're going to learn alittle bit about Bearded Nova
and his journey in contentcreation and learn all about it,
and maybe you guys can learnsomething from what he has.
I don't like that at all.
I don't know where I was goingwith that.
Welcome back to Down the RabbitHole.
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It's early.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
This is what happens when we do it in the morning for
you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm up at this time and I'm usually at this point.
I'm on the bus heading to workand I'm usually just about there
at this point, but I'm not in ameeting this early.
I'm at work, but I'm notpresent mentally.
Welcome back to Dad Mode.
Today we're going to be talkingwith Bearded Nova and asking
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all about his content creationand streaming journey.
Bearded, how are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I'm doing good.
I was talking a little bitbefore we spun around our
recording song today.
So you know morning for you,evening for me.
Yes, it's fair, and I'mstruggling a little bit this
morning because I'm not used todoing this in the morning I was
thinking this as well today Atsome point it's fine because I'm
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always in singlets or t-shirtsto doing this, because it's
summer here, obviously, and it'sa million degrees and you're a
jumpers up in my mind in the 40s, because it's winter.
We're going to have a completecostume change at some point in
this, where it was.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yep, it's actually getting warmer, for like it's
February, and next week issupposed to be like in the 50s
Fahrenheit here, and for methat's really warm.
We're used to blizzards stillat this time of the year.
I don't know it's strange.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, I really like that.
10 degrees, that's like thiscold as it gets.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
For us.
That's like we're going to goon a short in that weather.
We're like, oh my God, it's aheat wave.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh, I mean, I'm not alone.
It does get lower than that,but not that much lower, Like
that's a pretty average lower.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
The iron average low.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, I mean becauseI've always lived in this
climate where, you know, it'snot like frigid, like it doesn't
usually get.
The iron usually goes belowzero Fahrenheit, where I am Not
usually, but like the ironexpected to get above you know,
three degrees above that in thewinter.
(04:04):
So this is crazy.
It's like 50 degrees warmerthan it usually.
Okay, that's fair, I get thatAnyway.
Anyway, all right, so let'stalk about your streaming career
, the iron.
Now.
You've been streaming for acouple of years, couple of years
now it just has to be fouryears.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I've kind of lost track already how long it's been
.
I'd say four years.
First two years, though maybetwo and a half years, wasn't
very serious.
Two, let's say first two yearswasn't very serious.
The third year I started takingit a little bit more serious.
And then the previous say yeah,actually yeah.
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The previous year.
Now I took it on completelyseriously, though it was a real
change on how the iron the ironEven a year and a half was.
It took a complete change and Itook it really serious.
That's when TikTok and WeMapbasically is when I started
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brand picking it up more.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, the iron.
So when you got into it, theiron, the iron was why did you
get into it?
Why did you decide it wassomething you wanted to try out?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So we lived in rural, very out of town, never had
visitors at our place for theeight, seven years we lived
there, never had actuallyvisitors coming over to our
house, maybe twice.
Yeah, and back when I wasliving in the city before I met
my wife, I used to go and hangout with friends on like Friday
night, saturday night we'd gohang out in a lounge and play
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video games, order pizza, orderwings and etc.
Just talk, have a good time.
The irony of the move it away Imissed that.
I didn't have the experience ofplaying video games and sharing
it with other people, and I wasfinding that I was up late and
I was playing video games bymyself and I thought, well,
(06:03):
let's just put that streamingout there so I might interact
with me.
That gives me that socialinteraction that I was wanting
while playing video games.
I actually started on Facebooktoo.
Yeah, that was just like mygeneral Facebook profile.
It wasn't even like.
It was simple, just to set up,click, go.
(06:24):
Yeah, no overlays, no, screw,nothing fancy.
There's a screen, there's acamera.
Off, I went.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So you started on Facebook?
Did you go right from there toTwitch?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, straight from there, from Twitch.
So I think I maybe did aboutseven or so streams on Facebook.
It was a real basic thing.
You just had friends and familypop by and hang out for a few
seconds and that and I was likethis is not the place to
actually do this.
So I moved over to Twitch.
The iron actually wasn't theiron, Probably.
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As I said, that third year Ichanged games up a little bit.
I started playing ApexSeriously and I started meeting
a whole lot of US creators andthen I started getting rating
and backwards and forth.
So that's when I startedrealizing that it's good to
interact with other creators,because I actually never went on
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Twitch to watch anyone.
So me streaming was my wholeentry point to Twitch in general
.
It wasn't until a guy rated meand then I'm like hold on.
I met some people there andthen I started rating other
people and vice versa.
That I actually was like thisis fun, I actually enjoyed this.
I'm meeting people, this issomething I can do and I started
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putting in that little bit moreseriousness the cameras, the
lights, etc.
That's when I started taking itserious.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And at what time?
At what point during this part,did you decide that you need to
have 400 cameras and all of theother gadgets and stuff that
you?
It wasn't until we met.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I started coming.
Well, I always buying stuffthat was the thing.
I was always buying bits andpieces had a crappy Logitech C
720 or something, the 720p basicLogitech camera.
This was my first one.
Actually, it was a laptopcamera at first, then it went to
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that.
Then I brought a cheap GoPro,thinking I could get a better
quality than the Logitech camera.
Turned out Not really.
And then the C920 that everyonehas and just buying and buying.
I never got rid of the otherstuff and it wasn't until later
(08:51):
on when I started realizing Ihad all this gear.
I might as well just use it formore people, more cameras, more
angles.
Every time I looked at a cameraI'm like, well, it's just
sitting there in a drawer, whatam I going to do with it?
At the moment, I know there's acamera right there in the
background.
Then I plan to do somethingwith that.
I haven't done that yet, right.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now you made at one point you made really good use
of all those cameras because youdid a 24 hour stream.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, I did one sub-a-phone.
I've done one sub-a-phone intime streaming and that was
testing how I could get awaywith using so many cameras, and
in a technical sense I actuallywas.
It was done with, I want to say, three computers I needed for
that stream.
(09:38):
It wasn't just cameras.
So I actually took my son'scomputer and set that up in the
kitchen with another monitor anda microphone, and that was when
the C920 was.
Then I had a laptop in thelounge room, sit down so I could
watch TV, slash, eat my foodyou can have a laptop just
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sitting on the coffee tablelooking at me.
And then I used a droid camerawith one of my old Android
phones on a little mobile tripodgimbal thing that I could pick
up and then take with me gooutside, do what I wanted to do
outside, etc.
Come back in, like if I neededto move anywhere.
That's all I had, and I think Ihad commands, I think at one
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stage, so chat could change thething.
No, or maybe the command wasjust for me, I can't remember.
I did set up commands, though,to change the camera inside the
scene, so if I wanted to walkfrom one room to another, it
would, just I could push abutton.
By the time it transitioned Iwas in the next room Right.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
How did you get everything piped into like one,
the one feed, like the othermachines?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And what was it?
And I think what the pluginscalled NDI.
So I'd set up OBS on the laptopand now the computer as an NDI
output, and then I was justsourcing that input back on the
main computer.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's very cool.
It reminds me of the guy whoyou always show me that does
these crazy subathons.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Astuly.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, it reminds me of something like that where
it's all encompassing, very cool.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, that's actually where the idea came from.
Oh is it?
Yeah, because he had done asubathon.
They went through and he wassleeping in it as well, and it
went for a few days and hedidn't have guests at time but
he had, like you, go and havedinner with his wife every night
, et cetera, but still playedgames and then have to sleep.
You know, the camera would justbe playing while he was
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sleeping.
I'm like, well, I need to, I'mgoing to do a subathon.
I want to be able to live mylife.
I don't want to do thetraditional subathon that people
do when they just sit there attheir desk in order to breathe,
and I'm like I'm going to do thesame, this view for 72, 48, you
know, whatever how many hoursthey're streaming.
That just seemed bored.
I wanted to be comfortable, youknow.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yep, yep.
So you mainly were gaming onstream?
Yeah, I've noticed, so I know.
Now you just sponsored streamstoo.
Yeah, and the ferry was verycool.
Yep, how did you like sponsorstreams in?
And I'm curious people might beinterested in knowing, like,
how do you even get a sponsorstream?
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Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Once the streams came Blem.
So, as we talked about, I'mmainly focused on games and
you've got your sponsor streamsinside your stream elements and
let's see other one stream labsboth of them.
You should know that you'responsored by them.
Well, we're done with gigs forthem and you get those kids.
(12:53):
But I never actually Did any ofthem.
I never.
I never liked the look of it.
And it wasn't till I washunting for free games.
I was looking at how, how peopleget CD keys in that and another
creator put me on to a websitethat was Keymailer and you could
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apply for games and youconnected all your socials that
looked at how you were averageviewers etc on a platform and
then you would have eligibilityTo apply for games and then the
developer could go yeah, I'llgive you a key, I won't give you
keys.
And it wasn't until I foundanother site lurk it that did
the same thing, but theyactually showed you what they
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were looking for.
They would say you need anaverage of 10 viewers, 20
viewers, five years To get a keyto be eligible and inside that
they actually had a paid Versionwhere they would do sponsor
streams.
So you'd also do the game, butyou'd have a Pitch, a new idea,
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and so do a stream for $10 anhour or something like that, and
Then the developer would sayyes or no, or may come back with
another offer, and then you gofrom there.
So that was that's how I didsponsored game, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And how did those?
Music was really like a lot of.
Did you have like any goals youhad to hit or you just kind of
out there and did your thing.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
No, most of them was just do you think?
Put yeah, stream for two hours,stream for half an hour.
I want you to show this.
That was it.
That was that's all they wanted.
At the end of the day, you justlink your board To show that
you had done X.
It wasn't into Stuntfest, whichis now called jet Jet something
(14:47):
.
They changed the name juststart just as a god release that
it was a Paid game.
I thought that was gonna be cool, usual, I'll play this game.
And then the developer actuallyreached out and said, hey, we
want to do something different.
And I, you know, within an hour, was in a discord meeting with
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their public relations personand also the community manager,
which, oddly enough, was Whistyyou didn't interview of him.
It was another creator met ontiktok.
Actually was the communitymanager in a odd, odd world that
we bred into there and I endedup getting paid to stream on
their socials Because theywanted to do For steamfest.
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It was there, were showing offtheir indie games, so they they
had a time slot, they had to doso many streams.
Twisty was doing some, but hecouldn't do particular hours.
So like, hey, will you Streamfor us on this?
I actually didn't.
You know.
That's which they YouTube,steam, facebook and something
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else.
All in one hit was a.
It was cool Then they're.
You know I think I did youstreams for a month that I just
kept doing a couple of streamshere and there whenever they
needed help.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's cool.
I was very cool.
Um, I started that.
So at some point you alsodecided to start doing a Gaming
news Podcast.
Yes, eyes on, yeah.
So what kind of led to youdoing that and what was, what
was your Motivation behind that?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
that was changing, changing it up.
I wanted to try and do morejust chatting sections in my
stream, but I couldn't figureout a way how I wanted to do it
rather than just sit aroundwaiting for people.
Yeah, I didn't like the idea ofstarting my stream because of
the time I streamed and Thensitting there waiting because
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they say, you know, do justchatting for a while, then move
into whatever you're doing.
I can sit there for half anhour and nothing really was
happening.
So I was like I need to figureout how I can incorporate this
into my stream.
And that was when I zone cameand came in, which was a short
news for TikTok, very short30-second headlines, brief brief
(17:10):
overviews of news in the gamingindustry, and then I will put
that into an hour long podcastthat was Recorded live on Twitch
as one of my three streams aweek.
So that was my just chattingStream basically, and it was
purely just to mix up my content.
How I was doing content, Ithink I did a couple of
Sponsored streams with PC game.
(17:32):
I want to say one of the one ofthe gaming public is, as a
content creator, just coveringdifferent events to future games
, first for summer and winter.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know so.
So you've done live streaming.
You've done, you know, thedaily kind of news podcast.
You've done a regular podcastlike that.
You're obviously doing thispodcast.
Just what format do you?
What format do you like thebest?
Like the daily, the Streaming,the podcast thing?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I can.
This part, this, this format'sthe best for us now.
That's just time-wise, it's alot less stress we talked about
it gets in the past.
It's way more easier on us.
Entire management it's likecool, I can, I don't need to do
this by set.
I've got, you know, we've gottimes that we have to have
things done by, obviously, butit's not done within 24 hours.
(18:27):
You know, trying to trying tomake you know three times seven,
yet Three tick tocks a day.
It can be hard.
It can be hard and there'speople that do that.
That's they know they'll record, you know, all their tick tocks
for a week over, like fourhours on a Sunday or something.
(18:50):
That's hard to like it.
Yeah, we got tick tocks, we gotthe shorts, but I was taking
care of that and how.
I couldn't.
Ai couldn't do what.
Why needed for tick tock for myown personal channel, a Podcast?
It's brilliant, but for gamingit's it's, unless you're playing
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some of the big ones thatactually have AI.
I think you fought night tocall the GDs.
You can actually use AI to scanyour games for your kills or
whatever, but it's not gonnafind the good content in either.
You know what I mean.
That's all about marking andpulling that from Twitch.
And if you didn't mark it, thenyou got to skim through the
void and then maybe you didn'tactually have any really great
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moments.
So, crack, now I've got to comeup with something original.
Then you know it's.
It's a lot.
This is way easier, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I Definitely agree.
Now you haven't been streamingtoo much as of Lee, is it
something that you think youwant to do more on?
I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I do.
I do want to stream againbecause that was my time to game
, that I really game anymore.
That being said, the last Twoweeks I've gained one night just
with friends, but not streaming.
But every time I've hopped thatthat computer to and it is this
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time of night I'm sitting downthe computer and I'm like cool
and play cut you know games withmates for a few hours.
The first thing that goes in myhead is launch OBS, click life.
But that's what I want to do,but I just haven't done it yet
and I think that's where I willall start streaming that one
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night a week that I am gamingand then seeing where that comes
from.
I think I I Like the game thatI'm playing at the moment, but
it's hard to stream at the sametime the yes and no, especially
streaming with you're playingwith a group.
It's hard to talk to twitchplus talk to the group plus pay
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attention to the game.
I guess it's what I did.
Um, that'd be better.
I I've talked to you about scarand VR.
We saw that.
You know the 300 mods that I'veinstalled still haven't played
it.
But that's that's.
You know, that's a possibility.
I think that would be a greatseries actually.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I Think it would.
I really do think it would.
Um it, I really feel you on,like the gaming and having that
default Reaction of just goingto stream, because I've been
streaming gaming a little bitwith some friends off line
lately, which I don't do a lotof.
I do a lot of souls, yeah.
So every time I sit down ingame I'm like I should stream
this.
I don't like the death bydefault.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's exactly right, and I'm actually One of the
guys that's I've been playinggames with.
He's actually started gettinginto streaming it.
Part of me actually wants to.
Let's just like Unload on himeverything I know, because I
know he's okay, you're doing itincorrectly, he's.
You know he's not even he's notaffiliate.
(21:57):
He's Uh grinding for affiliate,but you know he's streaming at
1080p.
Well, no, no, no.
Yeah, don't don't do that.
I know it looks great, but youcan't do that.
You know your viewers can't umThings that I didn't know when I
started streaming.
You know, I mean, I did thesame thing, but Giving him
advice on hate, hold off doingthat until you hit this goal.
(22:19):
Then you can do this, becauseyour viewers you know you, this
is your viewers that you got now.
Hey, there's only so manypeople that can watch a 1080 60
stream at this.
Kill a bit Right, it said.
If they don't have the internetconnection, they're not gonna
watch you.
I haven't done that to him yet,but that's that's what I want
to do at the same time is just,I gotta help you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yep, yeah, because there's a lot to learn and you
know it's, it's when new peoplestart.
They think that thing right,they think that they have to do
this.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know I gotta, I gotta go out and buy a million.
You know different devices andthe best of everything.
I need to buy the best ofeverything.
This is always a it's aworkaround.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We should probably do an episode sometime just on the
gear stuff Get the gear youreally need and what you don't.
But anyway, all right.
Um, so we were talking aboutcontent, you know, in the
streaming and in gaming andwanting stream At some point.
For me, um, it became all aboutcontent.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
What about you like, guess, you have a period of time
where, like you weren't evenlike a human, you were just like
a content creation machine,like that's all you saw you wake
up, you go to work and then youknow, half the time I was
trying to record tiktoks in themorning before work and then
think about tiktoks and contentwalls.
I'm late from work but at thesame time I wanted to check on
my socials, making sure Ireplied to comments and putting
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out a tweet.
That was before twitter, youknow, did scheduling, which was
great, but Trying to keepeverything without scheduling
and on top of it was a lot,because it's just wake up, work,
come home, content, dinner,content, family, sleep, strict.
(24:04):
It was a robot.
I was a robot, I know, lookingat how much my wife hated it and
how much she mentioned all thetime that she hated how invested
I was getting into it.
Um, yeah, and I would try andexplain that to her like, hey,
no, no, this is why you lookingat it now.
(24:25):
Yeah, it was wrong, it was bad.
You know I'm lucky I still havea wife.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I, you know, I, I a thousand percent agree with that
, and my wife went, a thousandpercent agree, yes, with on my
side, though it's it's difficultbecause you get really into it.
I don't know why it's so easyto get addicted to, but you know
, I think that personality likeyours in mind, you just it just
(24:54):
becomes, um, something that wefeel like we have to do.
You know, um, so what kind ofgot you past that point?
Because, like you, you're notstreaming as much now, or you
haven't seen in a little while,like, was there a point where
you're like I'm gonna, I justgonna stop doing this so much?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
or but it partly started, uh, with depression.
I started getting a bitdepressed with work and how work
was going and actually I didn'tnoticed it.
It flew into content creation.
So, while real happy at workand everyone was great, I'm
doing 120 posts, you know, amonth, etc.
(25:33):
Like just hidden everythingthat I need to do, content out
the arse.
That's when I started bringingon, you know, eyes on.
Everything was going and then Ikept eyes like going but
everything else started to dipoff as I wasn't happy at work
and I think work called me and,um, that was around time when I
(25:54):
quit, before I quit, and I said,look, I'm not happy with this.
They turned around so well,we're not happy with you.
They actually tried getting mein trouble for tiktok, saying
you know you can't do this.
I think there was a tiktokwhere there was a logo of the
business somewhere on mycomputer screen or something and
(26:15):
no one would have picked it upon it, to be honest.
Or I was in a workshop.
They didn't have the work logobut they could tell from the top
just the checker pack in thatthat was a work shirt, or you're
sitting in your car, etc.
I'm like, well, I know, youknow this is done at six o'clock
in the afternoon, it's notDuring work time.
(26:36):
Yes, I'm still in the workhours closed, like we said.
You know, I finished workingand then you straight into it.
But they had done that and thenI it's like, okay, crap, okay,
looking at my analytics Becauseyou, obviously, when you're
getting heavily involved, you'relooking at analytics I pull up
my analytics.
The more depressed I got withwork, I could actually see where
(26:57):
my decline in hatred for workand my decline with
Concentration happened.
At the same time.
They both Tape it off, like youknow, 120, 90, 60, 30, 15, 15
and I'm like, hmm, and Iactually took that to work.
I like I went into the, thegeneral manager and my manager
sat down and would like you know, because we had this talk about
(27:19):
that being a priority over myown work and I went away
thinking, no, that's not thecase.
And then I've looked at theseanalytics.
I came in the next day with myanalytics into a meeting.
I'm like you want to say therewas work.
No, work has caused my, myanalyze, my numbers to drop.
This is where I'm now happy.
This is what's happening.
(27:39):
This is when I am happy andright.
So that happened.
I got changed work.
So it was a little bit folksome, changing work again, um, still
keeping eyes on gaming going.
And then I had to boot Um wifewas pregnant.
That was fine, I still wasperson for you through, you know
(28:02):
, dealing with all that wifemoved.
They came early, never cameback to it.
That was Pulled apart.
The stream, you know, the setupat all got pulled apart.
It took weeks to to put it allback together and then I just
then I didn't have the time toactually come on and click live,
so everything just Put on theback burner.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Put on the back, do you?
I'm sure there are aspects ofit that you you miss and you
talked about you.
Every now and then you want tokind of get back into streaming
a little bit more.
Put on the back.
Do you see yourself evergetting to the point where
you're doing as much as you weredoing before now, like?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
only enough.
Only if I won, like the water.
You know you, you win the lottoand my wife actually said that
the other night.
I almost fell off the chair.
It's off, we win the lotto.
You know I'm not.
She goes, I'm not working, Ican stay at home with the baby
full time.
I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
So I know I'd have to.
I would have to do some work tokeep myself happy.
(29:04):
I couldn't just sit at home,she was, you could just do your
streaming full-time.
Put on the back.
Put on the back, what's that?
My wife?
Where did she, was asked.
She was possessed for a second.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Put on the back and all right.
So one part I didn't reallytouch too much on is like the
social media stuff.
Now you've mentioned how you'redoing a posting and I know that
you got really into like thequote-unquote, the way you're
supposed to do things right,posting everywhere and all this
stuff.
So what do you find that wasmore disruptive?
(29:40):
The actual streaming scheduleor Doing all this stuff outside
it, like with with posting onsocial media and responding to
all that stuff?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Put on the back was more the social media stuff, but
then I'm new, that was moreimportant to grow the stream.
So then it was okay, I got todo the social media stuff more
than I can stream, and that's Inever.
It never took away anything butPut on the back times for a
while.
I just don't want to streamtonight, I just want to sit
there, need to record this, Iwant to edit this, etc.
(30:13):
I want to make graphics looksomething that that happened,
but Put on the back.
Then I got a little bit smarteras well.
Well, obviously, what?
And I just use my string, puton the back, don't need so you
don't need to record on yourcomputer the unload the phone
(30:33):
From twitch and then just cutthe crap out of it.
But there's your content for theweek.
If you can, if you're doing youknow three, three hour streams
that's nine hours of raw footage.
If you cannot get you know 2030clips from nine hours, then you
probably shouldn't be streaming.
(30:54):
Let me just go to put it outthere.
You probably shouldn't bestreaming.
Yep, put on the back.
You know working that a littlebit smarter, I guess.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And so I know you also did YouTube as well.
Little bit, no much, no much.
What.
How did you like?
The process of making Put onthe back goes versus streaming,
versus podcasting.
I did editing videos.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I did what you do it all the time.
Now I know I do it all the time, but I it was the daunting
process of trying to learnediting probably yeah, that you
can watch them does and YouTubevideos and stuff and it's still
didn't help me at all.
(31:42):
It actually wasn't until I gotinto after effects and wanting
to make stuff for my overlaysand twitch that I was playing
around and you got it.
You got a key stuff, key framesand that and add effects that
I'm like Okay, that's how keyframes work.
This is how I add differenteffects.
I'm like hold on, this isexactly the same as how you do
(32:03):
it in Premiere over.
So then I took editing way moreserious and easy because I
finally get it.
I finally understand what Ineed to do, put on the back to
make content and how to edit.
There wasn't such a, you know,sit down and look at a screen
for six hours trying to editsomething.
(32:23):
Then I could realize I couldedit fast and I could make fix.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, put on the back .
When you were kind of at thepoint where you were the most
engaged in in Streaming contentcreation, did you ever think Put
on the back like a look and say, hey, I could actually make a
career out of this?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
No, put on the back.
I Put on the back the way weall want to Do that.
Yeah, there's this party youcan't say no, there is a party
that would love to do, becauseit's something that makes you
more happy than the job that youcan't really doing usually.
In the case Put on the back, Iwas very realistic with In
(33:05):
replacing my income.
You know, I've got a big family, I got I think it's a need my
income to support them and thatwas not something that you know
and unless I'm in that top 1%,I'm not, I'm not hitting those
numbers.
Put on the back.
For me to Get to that point IRealistically it's like when the
(33:27):
water You've got to have thatmoment where you go super viral.
Really nowadays is the only wayto really Get places is to get
lucky with something super viralto send you on that momentum to
go further.
Put on the back, put on theback.
(33:48):
And then For me it was the time,but when I was streaming we
talked about that.
You know we both stream thatthose hours for me, where I am,
it's a way less dense amount ofpeople actually available to
watch my stream.
Yeah, I'm very, very stuck to alocal time.
(34:09):
Well, honestly, I feel like ifI was on your side over here
might be faster and easier togrow, because you know there's
so many still people stillaround at that time.
For Australia you know theamount of people watching in
Australia, new Zealand, at 10o'clock at night for a week is
(34:34):
not that much at all and I cansay that because I see people do
videos about how they refreshtheir stream to get transcoding.
Transcoding is sometimes you,apparently, if you're affiliate,
you don't get transcoding.
Never had that issue, never hadthat issue down here.
(34:56):
It's always just been fine.
And for me, you know, then I'dhave to relook at more into cat
cool.
What's what is peak time?
Where is peak time in the world?
You know that's why EasternEurope, basically, they just
swizzle.
In Sweden I pitched myself in ademographic in an area already
(35:23):
like I didn't want to changeagain.
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What's something that you wish you had done
differently during that periodof time that you didn't.
Maybe you didn't know it andyou say, hey, if I had done a
little more of this, a littleless of that.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I would always say getting into the social media
site, getting into shorts,probably building a present in
shorts way before streaming.
I would do that instead and, tobe honest, it's when I get more
back into this outside of justdownload, it will be that that
is the way I'm coming back into.
It is going to be doing TikToks, posting to YouTube shorts like
(36:07):
that.
When that starts ramping up,then you're going to probably
start seeing more strings of meand that's what I tell anyone to
do.
Just get into that.
You know, build up a couple ofphotos.
There's people I know on TikTokthat I'm still, you know, way
past them and they're going hardat TikTok.
Nowadays I do nothing and Istill have more followers than
(36:33):
you know other people that Iknow and that's where you can
build.
You build that big presence soyou can then go hey look, I'm
going to start streaming onTwitch.
People are following.
People will come over.
They want to see you live.
You know there are people on myTikTok when I have done TikTok
lives that have actually said Ilove it when I can catch you on
TikTok live, but I'm neveravailable when you stream on
(36:55):
Twitch.
I've had that, as you know,people that were just healing me
on TikTok live.
But I wanted to meet me onTwitch but couldn't Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Last question for you what advice would you give to
anyone who's thinking of gettinginto content creation or
streaming Like?
What kind of thing should theythink of before they get started
?
How?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
does it affect your loss?
Now you know probably what'syour priority, what's your goal.
How does that affect how youcurrently live?
This is probably my biggest oneis work that out.
Is it going to impact XYZ,sleep, muddy relationships?
That's the first thing I wouldfigure out First, and then
(37:37):
second, don't blow your moneyUnless you know, unless you got
a great job and you got thegreat disposable income.
Sure by the, you know the Canonmirrorless, the Sony mirrorless
, you know the stupid expensivemics, multiple stream decks,
monitor, studio lights, etc.
(37:58):
You can do all that stuff.
If you don't have that money,don't spend it because it's not
going to help you.
It's really not going to helpyou increase your viewers or
quality in any way.
Just use what you can withinyour budget and slowly invest
back into it.
(38:19):
I'll add and say one thing Ididn't actually buy a stream
deck for ages.
I used my mobile, the mobilestream deck app, for a long time
because I did want a streamdeck.
I couldn't justify it.
It wasn't actually until I gotmy first big donation on Twitch,
which was 500.
(38:40):
One of you gave me 500.
Yeah, blew my mind.
I think I got that before I gota Twitch payout.
Was that early as an affiliate.
Well, obviously I got Twitchpayout.
No, they didn't do it throughTwitch, they did through stream
elements.
So it was straight into myPayPal without having to wait
(39:02):
the 90 days at the time ofTwitch.
That's when I actually ran outand bought a stream deck.
But then I used both a streamdeck and my phone.
Didn't really help All rightbearded.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That was great.
If you want to catch morebearded, you can check the
description of this.
You can find all his links toall his socials there and we'll
catch you next time on that note.
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Now your hosts Bearded Nova andmore.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Welcome back to Dad Mode.
Today we're going to learn alittle bit about Bearded Nova
and his journey in contentcreation and learn all about it,
and maybe you guys can learnsomething from what he has.
I don't like that at all.
I don't know where I was goingwith that.
Welcome back to Down the RabbitHole.
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It's early.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
This is what happens when we do it in the morning for
you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm up at this time and I'm usually at this point.
I'm on the bus heading to workand I'm usually just about there
at this point, but I'm not in ameeting this early.
I'm at work, but I'm notpresent mentally.
Welcome back to Dad Mode.
Today we're going to be talkingwith Bearded Nova and asking
(02:15):
all about his content creationand streaming journey.
Bearded, how are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I'm doing good.
I was talking a little bitbefore we spun around our
recording song today.
So you know morning for you,evening for me.
Yes, it's fair, and I'mstruggling a little bit this
morning because I'm not used todoing this in the morning I was
thinking this as well today Atsome point it's fine because I'm
(02:42):
always in singlets or t-shirtsto doing this, because it's
summer here, obviously, and it'sa million degrees and you're a
jumpers up in my mind in the 40s, because it's winter.
We're going to have a completecostume change at some point in
this, where it was.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yep, it's actually getting warmer, for like it's
February, and next week issupposed to be like in the 50s
Fahrenheit here, and for methat's really warm.
We're used to blizzards stillat this time of the year.
I don't know it's strange.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, I really like that.
10 degrees, that's like thiscold as it gets.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
For us.
That's like we're going to goon a short in that weather.
We're like, oh my God, it's aheat wave.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh, I mean, I'm not alone.
It does get lower than that,but not that much lower, Like
that's a pretty average lower.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
The iron average low.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, I mean becauseI've always lived in this
climate where, you know, it'snot like frigid, like it doesn't
usually get.
The iron usually goes belowzero Fahrenheit, where I am Not
usually, but like the ironexpected to get above you know,
three degrees above that in thewinter.
(04:04):
So this is crazy.
It's like 50 degrees warmerthan it usually.
Okay, that's fair, I get thatAnyway.
Anyway, all right, so let'stalk about your streaming career
, the iron.
Now.
You've been streaming for acouple of years, couple of years
now it just has to be fouryears.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I've kind of lost track already how long it's been
.
I'd say four years.
First two years, though maybetwo and a half years, wasn't
very serious.
Two, let's say first two yearswasn't very serious.
The third year I started takingit a little bit more serious.
And then the previous say yeah,actually yeah.
(04:48):
The previous year.
Now I took it on completelyseriously, though it was a real
change on how the iron the ironEven a year and a half was.
It took a complete change and Itook it really serious.
That's when TikTok and WeMapbasically is when I started
(05:09):
brand picking it up more.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, the iron.
So when you got into it, theiron, the iron was why did you
get into it?
Why did you decide it wassomething you wanted to try out?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So we lived in rural, very out of town, never had
visitors at our place for theeight, seven years we lived
there, never had actuallyvisitors coming over to our
house, maybe twice.
Yeah, and back when I wasliving in the city before I met
my wife, I used to go and hangout with friends on like Friday
night, saturday night we'd gohang out in a lounge and play
(05:42):
video games, order pizza, orderwings and etc.
Just talk, have a good time.
The irony of the move it away Imissed that.
I didn't have the experience ofplaying video games and sharing
it with other people, and I wasfinding that I was up late and
I was playing video games bymyself and I thought, well,
(06:03):
let's just put that streamingout there so I might interact
with me.
That gives me that socialinteraction that I was wanting
while playing video games.
I actually started on Facebooktoo.
Yeah, that was just like mygeneral Facebook profile.
It wasn't even like.
It was simple, just to set up,click, go.
(06:24):
Yeah, no overlays, no, screw,nothing fancy.
There's a screen, there's acamera.
Off, I went.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So you started on Facebook?
Did you go right from there toTwitch?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, straight from there, from Twitch.
So I think I maybe did aboutseven or so streams on Facebook.
It was a real basic thing.
You just had friends and familypop by and hang out for a few
seconds and that and I was likethis is not the place to
actually do this.
So I moved over to Twitch.
The iron actually wasn't theiron, Probably.
(07:04):
As I said, that third year Ichanged games up a little bit.
I started playing ApexSeriously and I started meeting
a whole lot of US creators andthen I started getting rating
and backwards and forth.
So that's when I startedrealizing that it's good to
interact with other creators,because I actually never went on
(07:25):
Twitch to watch anyone.
So me streaming was my wholeentry point to Twitch in general
.
It wasn't until a guy rated meand then I'm like hold on.
I met some people there andthen I started rating other
people and vice versa.
That I actually was like thisis fun, I actually enjoyed this.
I'm meeting people, this issomething I can do and I started
(07:46):
putting in that little bit moreseriousness the cameras, the
lights, etc.
That's when I started taking itserious.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And at what time?
At what point during this part,did you decide that you need to
have 400 cameras and all of theother gadgets and stuff that
you?
It wasn't until we met.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I started coming.
Well, I always buying stuffthat was the thing.
I was always buying bits andpieces had a crappy Logitech C
720 or something, the 720p basicLogitech camera.
This was my first one.
Actually, it was a laptopcamera at first, then it went to
(08:31):
that.
Then I brought a cheap GoPro,thinking I could get a better
quality than the Logitech camera.
Turned out Not really.
And then the C920 that everyonehas and just buying and buying.
I never got rid of the otherstuff and it wasn't until later
(08:51):
on when I started realizing Ihad all this gear.
I might as well just use it formore people, more cameras, more
angles.
Every time I looked at a cameraI'm like, well, it's just
sitting there in a drawer, whatam I going to do with it?
At the moment, I know there's acamera right there in the
background.
Then I plan to do somethingwith that.
I haven't done that yet, right.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now you made at one point you made really good use
of all those cameras because youdid a 24 hour stream.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, I did one sub-a-phone.
I've done one sub-a-phone intime streaming and that was
testing how I could get awaywith using so many cameras, and
in a technical sense I actuallywas.
It was done with, I want to say, three computers I needed for
that stream.
(09:38):
It wasn't just cameras.
So I actually took my son'scomputer and set that up in the
kitchen with another monitor anda microphone, and that was when
the C920 was.
Then I had a laptop in thelounge room, sit down so I could
watch TV, slash, eat my foodyou can have a laptop just
(09:58):
sitting on the coffee tablelooking at me.
And then I used a droid camerawith one of my old Android
phones on a little mobile tripodgimbal thing that I could pick
up and then take with me gooutside, do what I wanted to do
outside, etc.
Come back in, like if I neededto move anywhere.
That's all I had, and I think Ihad commands, I think at one
(10:21):
stage, so chat could change thething.
No, or maybe the command wasjust for me, I can't remember.
I did set up commands, though,to change the camera inside the
scene, so if I wanted to walkfrom one room to another, it
would, just I could push abutton.
By the time it transitioned Iwas in the next room Right.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
How did you get everything piped into like one,
the one feed, like the othermachines?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And what was it?
And I think what the pluginscalled NDI.
So I'd set up OBS on the laptopand now the computer as an NDI
output, and then I was justsourcing that input back on the
main computer.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's very cool.
It reminds me of the guy whoyou always show me that does
these crazy subathons.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Astuly.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, it reminds me of something like that where
it's all encompassing, very cool.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, that's actually where the idea came from.
Oh is it?
Yeah, because he had done asubathon.
They went through and he wassleeping in it as well, and it
went for a few days and hedidn't have guests at time but
he had, like you, go and havedinner with his wife every night
, et cetera, but still playedgames and then have to sleep.
You know, the camera would justbe playing while he was
(11:45):
sleeping.
I'm like, well, I need to, I'mgoing to do a subathon.
I want to be able to live mylife.
I don't want to do thetraditional subathon that people
do when they just sit there attheir desk in order to breathe,
and I'm like I'm going to do thesame, this view for 72, 48, you
know, whatever how many hoursthey're streaming.
That just seemed bored.
I wanted to be comfortable, youknow.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yep, yep.
So you mainly were gaming onstream?
Yeah, I've noticed, so I know.
Now you just sponsored streamstoo.
Yeah, and the ferry was verycool.
Yep, how did you like sponsorstreams in?
And I'm curious people might beinterested in knowing, like,
how do you even get a sponsorstream?
(12:29):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Once the streams came Blem.
So, as we talked about, I'mmainly focused on games and
you've got your sponsor streamsinside your stream elements and
let's see other one stream labsboth of them.
You should know that you'responsored by them.
Well, we're done with gigs forthem and you get those kids.
(12:53):
But I never actually Did any ofthem.
I never.
I never liked the look of it.
And it wasn't till I washunting for free games.
I was looking at how, how peopleget CD keys in that and another
creator put me on to a websitethat was Keymailer and you could
(13:14):
apply for games and youconnected all your socials that
looked at how you were averageviewers etc on a platform and
then you would have eligibilityTo apply for games and then the
developer could go yeah, I'llgive you a key, I won't give you
keys.
And it wasn't until I foundanother site lurk it that did
the same thing, but theyactually showed you what they
(13:36):
were looking for.
They would say you need anaverage of 10 viewers, 20
viewers, five years To get a keyto be eligible and inside that
they actually had a paid Versionwhere they would do sponsor
streams.
So you'd also do the game, butyou'd have a Pitch, a new idea,
(13:58):
and so do a stream for $10 anhour or something like that, and
Then the developer would sayyes or no, or may come back with
another offer, and then you gofrom there.
So that was that's how I didsponsored game, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And how did those?
Music was really like a lot of.
Did you have like any goals youhad to hit or you just kind of
out there and did your thing.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
No, most of them was just do you think?
Put yeah, stream for two hours,stream for half an hour.
I want you to show this.
That was it.
That was that's all they wanted.
At the end of the day, you justlink your board To show that
you had done X.
It wasn't into Stuntfest, whichis now called jet Jet something
(14:47):
.
They changed the name juststart just as a god release that
it was a Paid game.
I thought that was gonna be cool, usual, I'll play this game.
And then the developer actuallyreached out and said, hey, we
want to do something different.
And I, you know, within an hour, was in a discord meeting with
(15:09):
their public relations personand also the community manager,
which, oddly enough, was Whistyyou didn't interview of him.
It was another creator met ontiktok.
Actually was the communitymanager in a odd, odd world that
we bred into there and I endedup getting paid to stream on
their socials Because theywanted to do For steamfest.
(15:31):
It was there, were showing offtheir indie games, so they they
had a time slot, they had to doso many streams.
Twisty was doing some, but hecouldn't do particular hours.
So like, hey, will you Streamfor us on this?
I actually didn't.
You know.
That's which they YouTube,steam, facebook and something
(15:52):
else.
All in one hit was a.
It was cool Then they're.
You know I think I did youstreams for a month that I just
kept doing a couple of streamshere and there whenever they
needed help.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's cool.
I was very cool.
Um, I started that.
So at some point you alsodecided to start doing a Gaming
news Podcast.
Yes, eyes on, yeah.
So what kind of led to youdoing that and what was, what
was your Motivation behind that?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
that was changing, changing it up.
I wanted to try and do morejust chatting sections in my
stream, but I couldn't figureout a way how I wanted to do it
rather than just sit aroundwaiting for people.
Yeah, I didn't like the idea ofstarting my stream because of
the time I streamed and Thensitting there waiting because
(16:46):
they say, you know, do justchatting for a while, then move
into whatever you're doing.
I can sit there for half anhour and nothing really was
happening.
So I was like I need to figureout how I can incorporate this
into my stream.
And that was when I zone cameand came in, which was a short
news for TikTok, very short30-second headlines, brief brief
(17:10):
overviews of news in the gamingindustry, and then I will put
that into an hour long podcastthat was Recorded live on Twitch
as one of my three streams aweek.
So that was my just chattingStream basically, and it was
purely just to mix up my content.
How I was doing content, Ithink I did a couple of
Sponsored streams with PC game.
(17:32):
I want to say one of the one ofthe gaming public is, as a
content creator, just coveringdifferent events to future games
, first for summer and winter.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know so.
So you've done live streaming.
You've done, you know, thedaily kind of news podcast.
You've done a regular podcastlike that.
You're obviously doing thispodcast.
Just what format do you?
What format do you like thebest?
Like the daily, the Streaming,the podcast thing?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I can.
This part, this, this format'sthe best for us now.
That's just time-wise, it's alot less stress we talked about
it gets in the past.
It's way more easier on us.
Entire management it's likecool, I can, I don't need to do
this by set.
I've got, you know, we've gottimes that we have to have
things done by, obviously, butit's not done within 24 hours.
(18:27):
You know, trying to trying tomake you know three times seven,
yet Three tick tocks a day.
It can be hard.
It can be hard and there'speople that do that.
That's they know they'll record, you know, all their tick tocks
for a week over, like fourhours on a Sunday or something.
(18:50):
That's hard to like it.
Yeah, we got tick tocks, we gotthe shorts, but I was taking
care of that and how.
I couldn't.
Ai couldn't do what.
Why needed for tick tock for myown personal channel, a Podcast?
It's brilliant, but for gamingit's it's, unless you're playing
(19:12):
some of the big ones thatactually have AI.
I think you fought night tocall the GDs.
You can actually use AI to scanyour games for your kills or
whatever, but it's not gonnafind the good content in either.
You know what I mean.
That's all about marking andpulling that from Twitch.
And if you didn't mark it, thenyou got to skim through the
void and then maybe you didn'tactually have any really great
(19:33):
moments.
So, crack, now I've got to comeup with something original.
Then you know it's.
It's a lot.
This is way easier, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I Definitely agree.
Now you haven't been streamingtoo much as of Lee, is it
something that you think youwant to do more on?
I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I do.
I do want to stream againbecause that was my time to game
, that I really game anymore.
That being said, the last Twoweeks I've gained one night just
with friends, but not streaming.
But every time I've hopped thatthat computer to and it is this
(20:13):
time of night I'm sitting downthe computer and I'm like cool
and play cut you know games withmates for a few hours.
The first thing that goes in myhead is launch OBS, click life.
But that's what I want to do,but I just haven't done it yet
and I think that's where I willall start streaming that one
(20:34):
night a week that I am gamingand then seeing where that comes
from.
I think I I Like the game thatI'm playing at the moment, but
it's hard to stream at the sametime the yes and no, especially
streaming with you're playingwith a group.
It's hard to talk to twitchplus talk to the group plus pay
(20:56):
attention to the game.
I guess it's what I did.
Um, that'd be better.
I I've talked to you about scarand VR.
We saw that.
You know the 300 mods that I'veinstalled still haven't played
it.
But that's that's.
You know, that's a possibility.
I think that would be a greatseries actually.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I Think it would.
I really do think it would.
Um it, I really feel you on,like the gaming and having that
default Reaction of just goingto stream, because I've been
streaming gaming a little bitwith some friends off line
lately, which I don't do a lotof.
I do a lot of souls, yeah.
So every time I sit down ingame I'm like I should stream
this.
I don't like the death bydefault.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's exactly right, and I'm actually One of the
guys that's I've been playinggames with.
He's actually started gettinginto streaming it.
Part of me actually wants to.
Let's just like Unload on himeverything I know, because I
know he's okay, you're doing itincorrectly, he's.
You know he's not even he's notaffiliate.
(21:57):
He's Uh grinding for affiliate,but you know he's streaming at
1080p.
Well, no, no, no.
Yeah, don't don't do that.
I know it looks great, but youcan't do that.
You know your viewers can't umThings that I didn't know when I
started streaming.
You know, I mean, I did thesame thing, but Giving him
advice on hate, hold off doingthat until you hit this goal.
(22:19):
Then you can do this, becauseyour viewers you know you, this
is your viewers that you got now.
Hey, there's only so manypeople that can watch a 1080 60
stream at this.
Kill a bit Right, it said.
If they don't have the internetconnection, they're not gonna
watch you.
I haven't done that to him yet,but that's that's what I want
to do at the same time is just,I gotta help you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yep, yeah, because there's a lot to learn and you
know it's, it's when new peoplestart.
They think that thing right,they think that they have to do
this.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know I gotta, I gotta go out and buy a million.
You know different devices andthe best of everything.
I need to buy the best ofeverything.
This is always a it's aworkaround.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We should probably do an episode sometime just on the
gear stuff Get the gear youreally need and what you don't.
But anyway, all right.
Um, so we were talking aboutcontent, you know, in the
streaming and in gaming andwanting stream At some point.
For me, um, it became all aboutcontent.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
What about you like, guess, you have a period of time
where, like you weren't evenlike a human, you were just like
a content creation machine,like that's all you saw you wake
up, you go to work and then youknow, half the time I was
trying to record tiktoks in themorning before work and then
think about tiktoks and contentwalls.
I'm late from work but at thesame time I wanted to check on
my socials, making sure Ireplied to comments and putting
(23:44):
out a tweet.
That was before twitter, youknow, did scheduling, which was
great, but Trying to keepeverything without scheduling
and on top of it was a lot,because it's just wake up, work,
come home, content, dinner,content, family, sleep, strict.
(24:04):
It was a robot.
I was a robot, I know, lookingat how much my wife hated it and
how much she mentioned all thetime that she hated how invested
I was getting into it.
Um, yeah, and I would try andexplain that to her like, hey,
no, no, this is why you lookingat it now.
(24:25):
Yeah, it was wrong, it was bad.
You know I'm lucky I still havea wife.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I, you know, I, I a thousand percent agree with that
, and my wife went, a thousandpercent agree, yes, with on my
side, though it's it's difficultbecause you get really into it.
I don't know why it's so easyto get addicted to, but you know
, I think that personality likeyours in mind, you just it just
(24:54):
becomes, um, something that wefeel like we have to do.
You know, um, so what kind ofgot you past that point?
Because, like you, you're notstreaming as much now, or you
haven't seen in a little while,like, was there a point where
you're like I'm gonna, I justgonna stop doing this so much?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
or but it partly started, uh, with depression.
I started getting a bitdepressed with work and how work
was going and actually I didn'tnoticed it.
It flew into content creation.
So, while real happy at workand everyone was great, I'm
doing 120 posts, you know, amonth, etc.
(25:33):
Like just hidden everythingthat I need to do, content out
the arse.
That's when I started bringingon, you know, eyes on.
Everything was going and then Ikept eyes like going but
everything else started to dipoff as I wasn't happy at work
and I think work called me and,um, that was around time when I
(25:54):
quit, before I quit, and I said,look, I'm not happy with this.
They turned around so well,we're not happy with you.
They actually tried getting mein trouble for tiktok, saying
you know you can't do this.
I think there was a tiktokwhere there was a logo of the
business somewhere on mycomputer screen or something and
(26:15):
no one would have picked it upon it, to be honest.
Or I was in a workshop.
They didn't have the work logobut they could tell from the top
just the checker pack in thatthat was a work shirt, or you're
sitting in your car, etc.
I'm like, well, I know, youknow this is done at six o'clock
in the afternoon, it's notDuring work time.
(26:36):
Yes, I'm still in the workhours closed, like we said.
You know, I finished workingand then you straight into it.
But they had done that and thenI it's like, okay, crap, okay,
looking at my analytics Becauseyou, obviously, when you're
getting heavily involved, you'relooking at analytics I pull up
my analytics.
The more depressed I got withwork, I could actually see where
(26:57):
my decline in hatred for workand my decline with
Concentration happened.
At the same time.
They both Tape it off, like youknow, 120, 90, 60, 30, 15, 15
and I'm like, hmm, and Iactually took that to work.
I like I went into the, thegeneral manager and my manager
sat down and would like you know, because we had this talk about
(27:19):
that being a priority over myown work and I went away
thinking, no, that's not thecase.
And then I've looked at theseanalytics.
I came in the next day with myanalytics into a meeting.
I'm like you want to say therewas work.
No, work has caused my, myanalyze, my numbers to drop.
This is where I'm now happy.
This is what's happening.
(27:39):
This is when I am happy andright.
So that happened.
I got changed work.
So it was a little bit folksome, changing work again, um, still
keeping eyes on gaming going.
And then I had to boot Um wifewas pregnant.
That was fine, I still wasperson for you through, you know
(28:02):
, dealing with all that wifemoved.
They came early, never cameback to it.
That was Pulled apart.
The stream, you know, the setupat all got pulled apart.
It took weeks to to put it allback together and then I just
then I didn't have the time toactually come on and click live,
so everything just Put on theback burner.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Put on the back, do you?
I'm sure there are aspects ofit that you you miss and you
talked about you.
Every now and then you want tokind of get back into streaming
a little bit more.
Put on the back.
Do you see yourself evergetting to the point where
you're doing as much as you weredoing before now, like?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
only enough.
Only if I won, like the water.
You know you, you win the lottoand my wife actually said that
the other night.
I almost fell off the chair.
It's off, we win the lotto.
You know I'm not.
She goes, I'm not working, Ican stay at home with the baby
full time.
I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
So I know I'd have to.
I would have to do some work tokeep myself happy.
(29:04):
I couldn't just sit at home,she was, you could just do your
streaming full-time.
Put on the back.
Put on the back, what's that?
My wife?
Where did she, was asked.
She was possessed for a second.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Put on the back and all right.
So one part I didn't reallytouch too much on is like the
social media stuff.
Now you've mentioned how you'redoing a posting and I know that
you got really into like thequote-unquote, the way you're
supposed to do things right,posting everywhere and all this
stuff.
So what do you find that wasmore disruptive?
(29:40):
The actual streaming scheduleor Doing all this stuff outside
it, like with with posting onsocial media and responding to
all that stuff?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Put on the back was more the social media stuff, but
then I'm new, that was moreimportant to grow the stream.
So then it was okay, I got todo the social media stuff more
than I can stream, and that's Inever.
It never took away anything butPut on the back times for a
while.
I just don't want to streamtonight, I just want to sit
there, need to record this, Iwant to edit this, etc.
(30:13):
I want to make graphics looksomething that that happened,
but Put on the back.
Then I got a little bit smarteras well.
Well, obviously, what?
And I just use my string, puton the back, don't need so you
don't need to record on yourcomputer the unload the phone
(30:33):
From twitch and then just cutthe crap out of it.
But there's your content for theweek.
If you can, if you're doing youknow three, three hour streams
that's nine hours of raw footage.
If you cannot get you know 2030clips from nine hours, then you
probably shouldn't be streaming.
(30:54):
Let me just go to put it outthere.
You probably shouldn't bestreaming.
Yep, put on the back.
You know working that a littlebit smarter, I guess.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And so I know you also did YouTube as well.
Little bit, no much, no much.
What.
How did you like?
The process of making Put onthe back goes versus streaming,
versus podcasting.
I did editing videos.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I did what you do it all the time.
Now I know I do it all the time, but I it was the daunting
process of trying to learnediting probably yeah, that you
can watch them does and YouTubevideos and stuff and it's still
didn't help me at all.
(31:42):
It actually wasn't until I gotinto after effects and wanting
to make stuff for my overlaysand twitch that I was playing
around and you got it.
You got a key stuff, key framesand that and add effects that
I'm like Okay, that's how keyframes work.
This is how I add differenteffects.
I'm like hold on, this isexactly the same as how you do
(32:03):
it in Premiere over.
So then I took editing way moreserious and easy because I
finally get it.
I finally understand what Ineed to do, put on the back to
make content and how to edit.
There wasn't such a, you know,sit down and look at a screen
for six hours trying to editsomething.
(32:23):
Then I could realize I couldedit fast and I could make fix.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, put on the back .
When you were kind of at thepoint where you were the most
engaged in in Streaming contentcreation, did you ever think Put
on the back like a look and say, hey, I could actually make a
career out of this?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
No, put on the back.
I Put on the back the way weall want to Do that.
Yeah, there's this party youcan't say no, there is a party
that would love to do, becauseit's something that makes you
more happy than the job that youcan't really doing usually.
In the case Put on the back, Iwas very realistic with In
(33:05):
replacing my income.
You know, I've got a big family, I got I think it's a need my
income to support them and thatwas not something that you know
and unless I'm in that top 1%,I'm not, I'm not hitting those
numbers.
Put on the back.
For me to Get to that point IRealistically it's like when the
(33:27):
water You've got to have thatmoment where you go super viral.
Really nowadays is the only wayto really Get places is to get
lucky with something super viralto send you on that momentum to
go further.
Put on the back, put on theback.
(33:48):
And then For me it was the time,but when I was streaming we
talked about that.
You know we both stream thatthose hours for me, where I am,
it's a way less dense amount ofpeople actually available to
watch my stream.
Yeah, I'm very, very stuck to alocal time.
(34:09):
Well, honestly, I feel like ifI was on your side over here
might be faster and easier togrow, because you know there's
so many still people stillaround at that time.
For Australia you know theamount of people watching in
Australia, new Zealand, at 10o'clock at night for a week is
(34:34):
not that much at all and I cansay that because I see people do
videos about how they refreshtheir stream to get transcoding.
Transcoding is sometimes you,apparently, if you're affiliate,
you don't get transcoding.
Never had that issue, never hadthat issue down here.
(34:56):
It's always just been fine.
And for me, you know, then I'dhave to relook at more into cat
cool.
What's what is peak time?
Where is peak time in the world?
You know that's why EasternEurope, basically, they just
swizzle.
In Sweden I pitched myself in ademographic in an area already
(35:23):
like I didn't want to changeagain.
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What's something that you wish you had done
differently during that periodof time that you didn't.
Maybe you didn't know it andyou say, hey, if I had done a
little more of this, a littleless of that.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I would always say getting into the social media
site, getting into shorts,probably building a present in
shorts way before streaming.
I would do that instead and, tobe honest, it's when I get more
back into this outside of justdownload, it will be that that
is the way I'm coming back into.
It is going to be doing TikToks, posting to YouTube shorts like
(36:07):
that.
When that starts ramping up,then you're going to probably
start seeing more strings of meand that's what I tell anyone to
do.
Just get into that.
You know, build up a couple ofphotos.
There's people I know on TikTokthat I'm still, you know, way
past them and they're going hardat TikTok.
Nowadays I do nothing and Istill have more followers than
(36:33):
you know other people that Iknow and that's where you can
build.
You build that big presence soyou can then go hey look, I'm
going to start streaming onTwitch.
People are following.
People will come over.
They want to see you live.
You know there are people on myTikTok when I have done TikTok
lives that have actually said Ilove it when I can catch you on
TikTok live, but I'm neveravailable when you stream on
(36:55):
Twitch.
I've had that, as you know,people that were just healing me
on TikTok live.
But I wanted to meet me onTwitch but couldn't Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Last question for you what advice would you give to
anyone who's thinking of gettinginto content creation or
streaming Like?
What kind of thing should theythink of before they get started
?
How?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
does it affect your loss?
Now you know probably what'syour priority, what's your goal.
How does that affect how youcurrently live?
This is probably my biggest oneis work that out.
Is it going to impact XYZ,sleep, muddy relationships?
That's the first thing I wouldfigure out First, and then
(37:37):
second, don't blow your moneyUnless you know, unless you got
a great job and you got thegreat disposable income.
Sure by the, you know the Canonmirrorless, the Sony mirrorless
, you know the stupid expensivemics, multiple stream decks,
monitor, studio lights, etc.
(37:58):
You can do all that stuff.
If you don't have that money,don't spend it because it's not
going to help you.
It's really not going to helpyou increase your viewers or
quality in any way.
Just use what you can withinyour budget and slowly invest
back into it.
(38:19):
I'll add and say one thing Ididn't actually buy a stream
deck for ages.
I used my mobile, the mobilestream deck app, for a long time
because I did want a streamdeck.
I couldn't justify it.
It wasn't actually until I gotmy first big donation on Twitch,
which was 500.
(38:40):
One of you gave me 500.
Yeah, blew my mind.
I think I got that before I gota Twitch payout.
Was that early as an affiliate.
Well, obviously I got Twitchpayout.
No, they didn't do it throughTwitch, they did through stream
elements.
So it was straight into myPayPal without having to wait
(39:02):
the 90 days at the time ofTwitch.
That's when I actually ran outand bought a stream deck.
But then I used both a streamdeck and my phone.
Didn't really help All rightbearded.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That was great.
If you want to catch morebearded, you can check the
description of this.
You can find all his links toall his socials there and we'll
catch you next time on that note.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You've been listening to Dad Mode.
Our passion is navigating thiswild journey of parenthood and
modern life, from balancingfamily time to managing your
career and still squeezing insome gaming and content creation
.
And no matter what the womensay, they will never be able to
(39:48):
pry the controller out of ourcold dead hands.
Anyway, we hope you enjoyed theshow.
If you did find us on Twitter,TikTok and YouTube at Dad Mode
Podcast, and we can be found onevery podcast site at Dad Mode
Podcast.
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(40:09):
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