September 12, 2024 • 32 mins
Balancing parenthood, gaming, and content creation is no small feat, but what if you could find harmony in these seemingly disparate worlds? Today, we open up about our own experiences in this juggling act, sharing how we negotiate streaming schedules with our partners and troubleshoot those pesky technical issues with OBS and Streamlabs. Whether you're a dad who loves gaming or a content creator trying to find your groove, we've got some insights to make your journey a bit smoother.
Remember those epic multiplayer nights with friends on Phasmophobia and Among Us? We do too. We reflect on those memorable moments and the camaraderie they bring, while also exploring the challenges of keeping a consistent streaming and TikTok schedule without burning out. From tips on making your streaming more sustainable and enjoyable to discussing the various tools that can maximize your efficiency, we aim to keep your passion for content creation alive and well.
What happens when a high-profile streamer gets banned from Twitch? The drama surrounding Dr. Disrespect and the legal and social fallout is a hot topic, and we break down the implications for content creators. From managing public opinion to the risks of false allegations, we navigate the complex landscape of online fame. We'll also talk about the resilience it takes to keep creating amidst controversy and how different streaming personalities affect your viewing experience. Join us for a candid conversation on balancing career risks, parenthood, and the love for gaming that keeps us going.
Josh aka Bearded_Nova
I'm from Australia and am what you would call a father who games. I have 5 kids so not as much time to game as I used to. But I still game and stream when I can. So come join me on Twitch in chat as we chill out.
Business Inquiries: Bearded-n0va@aussiebb.com.au
Josh aka Moorph
I'm a US-based husband and father of two boys. I work full-time and have been a content creator since 2000. I'm a YouTube partner, Twitch and LiveSpace streamer who founded a content creation coaching company called Elev8d Media Group (elev8d.media). I'm a blogger, streamer, podcaster, and video-er(?).
Business Inquiries: josh@elev8d.media
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Stand by.
Stand by, switching from humanmode to dad mode, initializing
sequence In 3, 2, 1.
This is Dad Mode, the podcastwhere we navigate the chaotic
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realms of parenting, gaming,content creation, work and hell
just life in general.
We're diving into thechallenges of raising kids in
the digital age, from socialmedia madness to navigating the
gaming landscape.
We're talking about it all,especially from a dad's
perspective.
Whether it's conquering thelatest game, creating content
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that's more than just a hobby,or just trying to keep up with
the ever-changing tech landscape, we're right there with you.
We want to help you navigatethis wild journey of parenthood
and modern life, from balancingfamily time to managing your
career and still squeezing insome gaming and content creation
.
It's all about fun, some dadwisdom and a whole lot of dad
(01:08):
mode.
Now your hosts Bearded, novaand more.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I love this.
I haven't streamed regularly inabout a year.
Every now and then, right, I'min the exact same boat as you.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I think I've done more.
I don't game, really, I don'tdo shit in here.
I come in here and print.
I do my work.
Occasionally I might stuff upin the afternoon while I'm
working and then go okay, I'llthrow in a sneaky game while I'm
here.
It's slowing down a little bit,but I'm still at my computer
doing stuff.
But then when I do want a gameit's like oh, but you spend so
much time doing that.
(01:52):
I'm like where, where, who Me?
Is there someone else here?
We've gone back to thatnegotiating stage of things
where, okay, I've decidedWednesdays and Fridays.
Fridays is a horrible day forbeing a parent and streaming
usually yeah, I'm not going tolie, fridays is probably one of
(02:14):
the worst days to pick, but Idon't feel like my body can do
two work days because I used tostream only work days in the
past.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
So in my head friday is a flexible day.
So if something does come upfriday, then I'll just move it
to saturday yep, this weekendcome around friday, I'm buggered
because we're up thursday withsix children and that, and all
right, that's okay, I'll move itto saturday.
Yeah, well, the kids go out.
Why?
It's like, oh, how about wehave nice dinner and watch a
(02:45):
movie?
Oh, you wanted to stream?
I'm like, no, that's fine,we'll do that, we'll do that,
we'll watch, watch a movie.
So, watch, watching a movie.
Yeah, she fell asleep.
She fell asleep, yeah, an hourinto this, an hour into this
movie.
And by then I'm like, well, nowit feels weird, like I can't.
You know, I stopped end upstopping the movie sorting out
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bedrooms so she could go tosleep, but you know it's 10.30
at night, 10 o'clock at night.
I've got to go pick up mydaughter from her job at 11.
It's not enough time to start astream, whereas the original
plan would have been, you know,I would have done at least two
hours, two and a half hours, andthen could have ended it.
Yeah, I pick her up.
You know, I might try tonight,I don't know, but it just feels.
(03:30):
You know, so far all my streamshave been severely broken.
Oh, really, just just obsissues, stream labs issues,
stream labs and tiktokmulti-stream issues.
Obs and tiktok live issue.
I am trying my brain oneverything that I know I have
adjusted some settings since thelast stream so this might
(03:53):
correct it, but I don't know.
I don't know till next time.
Like stream labs, all for doingmulti-stream tiktok and twitch
at the same time.
Yeah, launch is fine, startsrunning fine, rendering's fine.
It looks like it's going great.
20 minutes in end stream errorunknown error.
So it's a stream labs.
It's a stream lads issue, not amy, it's not a me issue, but it
(04:16):
seems like a their issuebecause I can replicate it
without doing anything right,you know.
So that's why I've gone to myolder way my obs broken again,
you know you're talking about.
Yeah, you mix it up, mix it up,ambassador.
I had to redo all my mix it upstuff and at the same time I you
know, not all of it, just someof it just adjusting little
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things, especially jumpingbetween obs and stream lab.
So I've got to go through andadjust commands to for the, you
know, whatever.
But then I've got the issue ofwell, do I change to Atom?
So I paid for Atom.
Okay, I was like, yeah, allright, let's do it, let's give
Atom a go.
Loaded it up, went to do myfirst command.
This looks like too much effort.
(04:57):
I'm not using it.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I've been there .
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It does look nice Like.
It really does look like a niceinterface.
Way too much going on and itbore me for me to make the
switch.
I know Mixitup.
I don't have time to muckaround and try and learn a whole
new system.
I know Mixitup well.
Streamerbot's another one,there's some stuff that
StreamerBot does that I'm veryinterested in, because they have
some type of integration withTikTok now in StreamerBot.
(05:24):
Oh, do they.
Yeah, I think it's with that,that website, that tick infinity
or whatever the website is thatdoes the overrides, but it but
it can, it can pull informationfrom that, so that kind of.
So you can create triggersinside tiktok, you know in a way
.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So now that streamlabs integrates with
tiktok, does it have tiktokcommands and stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
no, no, you're actually.
You're actually better offusing tiktok live studio than
you are.
Like, the problem.
The one thing I like is obs.
I can still use tiktok live,and tiktok live studio has, like
I have things like I was doinga campaign.
This is what got me back intoit.
I was doing a campaign and,yeah, one of the things is
called flares.
So you launch a flare and itboosts pushing your live stream
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to the for you page for like 30minutes 40 minutes, depending on
the flare that you got.
So I got given a couple of themso I could use that using
TikTok Live Studio.
I cannot use that with Labs.
Labs now has the option tocreate the title.
They never used to be able tochoose the title or category.
You can do that now, but youcan see chat, but that's kind of
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where it ends.
You can't use any of the.
I was looking forward to havingintegration with their store
and being able to use overlayslike pop-ups, follow alerts,
stream goals, et cetera.
They do not have that option inStreamlabs, so it's basically
just a really raw stream.
A beautiful thing that they dodo is your scenes are joined
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together, obviously, so when youchange to one scene.
It has a scene for both and youjust choose what assets, what
sources are shown on each one,what's vertical, what's
horizontal or both.
And obviously when you changescenes, you know I want to go
from a game stream to justchatting the scene.
It'll pick that up.
You can do that.
You can even set differentanimations, stingers and that
(07:16):
vertical and horizontal.
Like you know, all that stuff'scool.
Can't do that with obs.
So even though I've got adamand the rest of it and I've got
scenes there, if I change thescene in obs it doesn't link the
two together.
There might be a way haven'tdiscovered it yet, but that
doesn't seem like an easy wayfor me to just use the stream
deck.
Go, cool, it's starting, let'sgo to this scene.
(07:38):
No, it'll change one and thenI've got to click on the other.
Yeah, right, yeah, hopefullythis stuff settles, but it's,
it's been fun.
It has been fun.
Yeah, the support's been nice,actually, even with broken,
horribly broken streams.
You know the audio's gone theyou know the video is chugging
and lagging, like very earlystreamer shit going wrong.
(08:03):
The people come and buy it all.
You know there's a lot ofpeople that I haven't seen or
took to in ages that have beennice, that have popped in.
It's like you're back, welcomeback.
You know, I had someone come byon my last stream just as I was
ending it because I was havingissues.
He brought half his, some ofhis community with him because
he saw I was online.
It's like, oh, I'm gonna, I'mgonna tell these people to come,
come watch it.
So good.
And you know, I gained likefive followers at the end of a
(08:25):
stream nice, which was nice, butit's nice seeing people excited
that I'm back to sharing.
I didn't expect that's cool.
I kind of expected to come inreally quiet and nothing
happened for ages yeah, I thinkI I do miss that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I I do miss the people getting excited.
You know, know, because youknow regular life.
No one gets excited when youcome home from work.
No one gets excited about youwhen you go into your job, you
know, but being like, hey, it'sBearded Nova, you know.
If you hop in someone else'sstream, hey, nova's in chat.
Yeah, you know.
At home, like, oh, it's youagain.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Exactly.
You know I show up at theoffice at work.
I rarely go to the office.
I get there and it's like, hey,it'd be nice if you brought
coffees in for everyone.
Cool, that's it.
I've made the journey up here,so I need to give you guys
something.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, right, yes, I do.
I do miss that aspect of it alittle bit, but yeah, so I have
been watching a little bit tooand trying to get myself
motivated to come back andgoogle that every single week.
She's like are we streamingthis week?
I wish every single week.
Are we streaming this week?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I'm like no, no, no, I think you need to have like a
fun chat show again.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You had more fun doing chatting than you did
anything else yeah, I switchedto the gaming because I didn't
feel like doing anything else.
Yeah, and that's where you lostit.
You know, like when I'm gamingyeah, especially for the game
like call of duty or something Ihave to pay attention to I'm
paying attention to it like I'mnot looking at chat, you know I
think I think you need to go tolike fun, fun chat instead.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I mean, that's like yeah, that's a niche that you
did great at having a having.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I gotta get I gotta get that having, I gotta get
that motivation.
Yeah, I gotta get thatmotivation back you know that
was my motivation was TikTok.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Tiktok gave me my motivation to come back and it
was purely because I joined thatcreators.
The agency Hadn't really doneany streams.
You know, whatever Thing poppedup Black Wukong, black Myth
Wukong.
Would you like to get a CD keyfor it?
I'm like, yeah, why not?
Then would you like to get a cdkey for it?
I'm like, yeah, why not?
Then I get a message going ohyeah, you've been selected to do
(10:25):
it.
I'm like, oh shit, you know Idon't do anything anymore.
You guys have selected me.
And she goes yeah, the onlycondition is we want you to do
six hours between the 20th andthe 26th, so from launch, the
first six days of launch.
Okay, I can do that.
Like it was broken.
A lot of it broke.
As I said, there was lots ofstreams and restarting streams
in that time, but I still didoverseas and it was just doing
that.
Playing that like being forcedto hey, there's a game you need
(10:48):
to do this as a condition andthen forced to play two, three
nights in a week.
I was like I forgot about this.
This is fun.
I actually do enjoy this.
And then afterwards I'm like,okay, well, what am I Now?
I need to look at a schedule.
What am I going to do now?
It started that one game wasenough to give me a push to go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'vesaid it on here so many times
(11:11):
that I'm going to want to comeback.
I want to come back, but therewas not that motivation to hit
go live.
It got to normal time.
I'd stream I.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It got to you know, normal time I'd stream and like,
meh, I'd rather lay on thecouch and eat chips, like that's
.
So that my problem is likethat's where, where I've been,
it's just I just want to gameand not have to talk to anybody.
I don't want to have to narratewhat the fuck I'm doing.
You know what I mean and I, you, I've never truly enjoyed the
actual gaming and streamingbecause it's just not, it
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doesn't work for my brain.
Yeah, but yeah, you're right,the chatting thing would be
interesting again.
I, I, every now and then I seepeople on tiktok or whatever
people that I know, like they'redoing these interview type
streams and I'm like mine wasbetter than that.
Like that makes me that kind ofmakes me motivated to want to
do it again, just like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's how you yeah, you don't know
what I mean.
That's exactly it.
I see things I'm like how Icould do that better.
I have been done that.
I have done that better.
I should do that better.
Even see like a couple ofpeople that I've like a game
with over the time due to liketimes when our streams would
overlap so we do a lot of collabstuff.
I miss that.
And then I see some of theirstreams and their streams is
(12:22):
missing.
That like.
In particular, there's a videoit's popped up twice now in a
memory from tiktok, one of the.
I think it's the first time Iplayed with ps2 fat boy and we
were playing yep, there was agroup of us and he's like anyone
wants to join, I've joined andthe chemistry of us two playing
at that time was just for afirst interaction.
(12:44):
It was just perfect.
It was funny.
Yeah, the clip was funny likewe just it bounced off each
other very naturally.
We were able to make thesejokes.
We both had similar humor likeit.
Just, it was great.
And I'm looking at god, hedoesn't even have that anymore.
I have that.
I don't have that.
He doesn't have that like I domiss that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That was fun, but that I was having fun, that
stream yep, I remember yousaying that, like I'm
remembering I having fun onstreams, like when I had when,
whether I had a guest or not, orlike I was interviewing, or
just like people on like two,three people.
I'm playing games and just likemaking fun of each other the
whole time or whatever, and thentrying to to scare me and like
(13:22):
phasmophobia yeah, that shit isfun.
Well, we've got that game.
What's fun?
I brought that game for us.
Oh, do you have the VR thing?
No, no, no, no, no, oh yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That other one, the game that you got like an expert
in it now, oh, really, yeah,he's like got a dedicated stream
once a week to that game.
Jesus, content warning, contentwarning.
It was.
But yeah, like that's a figurelike you, you that fun chatty
aspect, you know, one of thegreat early stream we've done
first things we ever donetogether was among us, yeah, big
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among us.
That was fun.
Yeah, that was still a fun daythat was a fun night.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, because we had, like, all these people in there
very, very mixed bag in, there,though it was a very.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It was like booty beard and yeah, yeah there was a
bit of I think moose was inthere.
Mama moose was in there yeah, Ithink so yeah, that was it.
It was a mixed bag of peoplefrom all over the all over the
shop, but it was.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It was fun.
That was like when I was atlike about as well as I was
doing, you know, and I wasmeeting all these people and
that was cool.
I I think I just got like notto rehash every like, I just got
burnt out and like I stoppedseeing like the value for me for
what I was doing.
People like, oh, you're helpingme so much.
Cool, it's not helping me.
(14:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, that's why, with this having gone through
streaming, I've decided on twonights, not three.
Two I want to stream less thanwhat I was and I do plan.
You know I am thinking in myhead about what I'm going to
play ahead and if I can getcontent out of that.
So I want to know if that gameis going to give me enough
content that I can get clips topost on TikTok, like I really
(15:05):
similar to here where we've usedOpus and Opus has streamlined
this podcast from going from along form to short form.
I'm looking at that Like, ifI'm playing this, I don't want
to.
As much as I love doing littleTikToks here and there, I don't
want to be doing the regularrecording in front of a TikTok.
(15:26):
As much as I can, if I can do,if I can get away with, because
what was it?
We were doing three a day,seven days a week, at least 21
TikToks basically a week, yeah,at one stage.
You know, when you add thatover a month, you're in a
hundred on average a month, withreplies etc.
I want to get that down in halfas well and I would want
(15:47):
majority of that half toactually be from the stream and
clips.
Yeah, so I'm doing less.
I don't have to think too muchabout going crap.
I've got to record a tiktok fortoday.
I really want to get most of mytiktoks out of the stream to
give myself more time withoutoverloading myself yeah, and you
can still use like I.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I, first of all, I a thousand percent agree, because
if you can do it that way, thenyou don't have to come up with
another idea and shoot somethingelse and edit something else.
You're just clipping somethingand you might be able to find
like a trending sound that workswith whatever clip you're using
.
So you kind of get the best ofboth worlds.
But yeah, I agree, like youremember, like when we were both
super heavy into the tiktok,it's exhausting and I would be
(16:30):
posted.
Hey guys, I'm gonna record 50tiktoks this weekend because I
don't have any time the rest ofthe week and I would.
And I'm just like I'm sodrained, yeah, and you get.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The problem is I found it was a drain on both
sides, so it wasn't necessarilyTikTok or streaming draining me
personally, it was everythingelse outside that.
That stuff actually kept mepretty happy.
That was my happy place.
That was where I was, you know,really positive and that.
But then I'm doing heaps there.
I'm not, you know, reallypositive and that, but then I'm
doing heaps there, I'm not.
(17:01):
You know, I'm not doing itthrough work or whatever I'm.
You know I'm doing it when Ihave to, but then work would get
too overbearing and I'd have alot to do with work that would
just crush my TikTok or mystreaming, usually TikTok.
First, tiktok got crushed veryfast first because I get
overloaded with work orsomething.
I'm like I don't feel likedoing recordings now.
(17:22):
I'm depressed or burnt out, andthat was from work.
It wasn't TikTok, it was workthat actually was doing it first
, and then that just you knowwe're not doing the effort into,
and then that rolls into TikTok, not pushing it as much, or me
not having as much to do, andthen I'm looking at it feeling
like crap because I haven't doneanything or me not having as
much to do, and then I'm lookingat feeling like crap because I
haven't done anything.
It's just a roll on effect.
(17:43):
So I don't want to do thateither.
I don't want to feel like Ineed so much time and that work
takes that time away from me.
If I can, yeah, do it smarter,yep, yep, I do.
Do want to use, though, aswe're talking about streaming,
so much though dr disrespectreturned streaming yesterday
yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Once I didn't watch it I, I haven't been, I was
never a fan of his.
Like, I don't love his style.
I get a lot of people do that'scool.
But I did notice that the videohe did has two million views
already.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah I believe I saw his stream started
something like a quarter of amillion views at the start of
live and then it was.
But then I think it droppeddown and steadied to like 160,
200 viewers his stream.
What if he's monetized again onyoutube?
No, he's not sorry.
From what I could see, most Ididn't watch the stream.
I watched clips oh, not clipslike.
(18:33):
I kind of scrolled through thestart just to see how this
launch, how do you come back?
What do you do?
Just to see if there wasanything at the start of it.
There wasn't.
And then I found asmongoldreaction video to the topic.
Obviously that had to beaddressed in it.
Yep, and you know I'minterested to see how it goes.
It's very, very different.
(18:53):
He was getting lots ofdonations still from because you
can't stop, you know, yourstream elements or whatever that
people give you donations.
So he's still know,realistically, still made more
money in the 20 minutes I saw onan Asmongold video than most
streamers trying to go full time, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But his conversation came up around very directed at
Cody and the stuff that Codysaid on Twitter that he kind of
let a lot of it go and just besaid out without bringing in too
much comments or anything else.
(19:31):
And that was around thecontract with Twitch, like we
talked about at the time, theTwitch contract.
He still got paid out.
He still he still went to courtand got money for it.
And that was always a confusingpart of the whole scenario to
me is how does someone get moneyfor a contract when you would
(19:51):
have definitely broken?
That definitely would have beena clause to break contract,
especially multi-million dollarcontract.
So Doc talked about this.
All happened short, not longafter going signing the big deal
with twitch.
Prior, prior to twitch, he hada stream twitch partner manager
who did nothing for them, didn't, didn't push them to the front
(20:13):
page, didn't, didn't even followany of his accounts.
His partner manager didn'tactually follow anything.
So there was a lot of beefbetween him and this partner
manager and when time came to gobigger contract, he actually
put in their stipulation hewants a new partner manager For
obvious reasons.
You want someone if you'regoing to have a.
You're dealing with a brand.
(20:35):
You want a good connection andshortly after that it seems like
this ex-partner manager was alot involved in the allegations
the whispers, the pulling up theinformation on the whispers,
the push to get him banned.
There was a lot of oh wow,there was no conversations
between him about any of it.
(20:56):
It was just a straight-out,well banned situation where he
pointed out multiple times inthe past.
Twitch has had similar peoplein other situations and they get
to speak on their behalf.
There wasn't a ban.
They might've been suspended orthey'd been signed a new deal,
but similar cases in the past.
He sounded very much like itwas a bit of a conspiracy to
(21:18):
help get rid of him was hispoint of view.
He said the person was not aminor that they spoke to.
There was no conversation toactually meet up in person.
None of that was in the courtcases or anything like that.
Everything did go to the childsafety your version of child
safety over there.
(21:38):
They you know it's still tothis date.
Nothing has come from that.
There was nothing from theirinvestigation that it was so and
he's well, you know.
It does sound very much likethis person was 17.
Yes, I get it, 17.
It's, you know, 16's age, greywater there.
Yeah, obviously he's married.
Children shouldn't do shit likethat.
(22:00):
Yeah, but at the same timewe're kind of seeing where he's
coming from.
This, a lot of these things, hascaused a lot of movement for
him in a way that does seem likean attack, this.
So this all came out veryquickly after mix was collapsing
and you had the likes of stroudand ninja gonna be needing to
find a new home and thattwitches has put a lot of money
into doc and you going to beneeding to find a new home and
(22:21):
they just put a lot of moneyinto Doc and you need to get out
of a contract to try and getsome money to get some of these
people.
He had some valid points in hisconversation.
I mean the one thing I didn'thear and I haven't Googled to
see if this was, but I meanpersonally there's a lot
different defamation if this was.
But I mean personally there's alot different defamation.
(22:42):
Like if this is the case andthere's enough that has been
done, now he's lost a lot ofmoney, like I'd be looking at
Coyote to be like, well, you canpay me the money that I've just
lost because of you.
To be honest, there's no wayI'd just be like meh, I would
personally be looking at suing.
But, as you know, I guess morewill probably come to light Now.
(23:06):
More will come out about thesituation and happen.
Doc did mention that inside thesettlement with Twitch, you know
there was agreement.
No party was to talk about it.
They've just agreed.
You know normal settlementrules.
But now Cody and these otherpeople have started talking
about that's kind of broken thetwitch site so he can actually
(23:28):
he's gone away had a thoughtabout it.
Come back on you know what.
No, I am gonna say I am gonnasay some stuff about it.
So, right, it'll be veryinteresting, like I'm just still
very interested to know howthis all folds out in the end
yeah, oh, what was the?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
what's the reaction been like?
Because I haven't read too muchabout, I haven't seen, I
haven't looked anything ontotwitter yet.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Asmongold and he's chat were pretty positive, I
guess would probably be the bestway to put it.
A lot of them were like, yeah,okay, yeah, this this is kind of
making sense, but they'reasking, and you know they're.
They're a lot of them wereasking the same questions.
Well, sue, so we're waiting forthis announcement that you're
going to sue.
Doc's not a kid.
You know he isn't a kid, so Idon't, I don't expect him to act
(24:13):
like a kid and turn around andgo.
I'm suing this guy on theinternet.
That's something that heprobably, as an adult, or you
and me, if we were having, in,you know, discussions with
lawyers to do a defamation case.
I'm not announcing it on the.
You know what I mean.
That's going to be.
That's going to be closedbehind, behind doors, yep yep,
so that could be going to case,who knows?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
it's.
It's tough, like you know, when, when it, when we didn't know
what was going on for years, youknow didn't really think as
much about it.
When he kind of admittedsomething, that happened, you
know, everybody turned againsthim and I think the problem
right now is that reputationthat he got several months ago.
Those kind of allegations, evenif they're not true, they don't
go away.
No, they don't.
(24:54):
People, people will stillalways label him as one thing or
another, even if it'scompletely proven false.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I found, especially after Dr Disrespect,
we had the Mr Beast, Chris Ava.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, that all happened.
And that wasn't even him, thatwas like someone on the team.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, that's what I mean, Chris, the team member,
chris, oh yeah, but it stillaffected Mr Beast.
He's been under fire for lotsof different things.
Now they're not even looking atjust that.
They're looking at all types ofaspects, with mr beast still,
but his team member.
You know there was actuallyscreenshots of tweets, pulled up
information.
You know there was a lot ofactual evidence towards yeah or
(25:42):
proof to push you towards theway of going.
Hey, that's inappropriate.
No, that shouldn't be the case.
You know did.
Did mr beast take too long torespond?
Yeah, he probably needed torespond a lot sooner than what
he did for it.
I do understand, you know, along term.
You know that person had beenthere since the start with him,
so I do understand that.
But he probably needed to thinkabout the business faster and
(26:05):
the brand faster than that.
But how the internet reactedtowards Chris and Ava Chris
slash Ava because I'm trans thedifference was very night and
day between that and Doc, verynight and day.
I don't know why that's the case.
Like was it?
(26:25):
Was it that no one wanted toreally get hit hard because of
the the trans aspect to it?
Was it because of the mr beastaspect to it.
I don't know.
There's a lot.
Why two situations that arevery similar but then both have
different levels of evidence,why one can be very harshly
reacted and gone with little tono evidence.
(26:47):
Besides, I've got a source.
I'm sorry, but I don't hate.
I hate that I've got a sourcethat has said this no, that's
you know.
Everyone's saying I've got adifferent sort.
What's, what's this?
What's the source you know?
I mean I think the internetwants proof either way, like
like they got with chris, theygot proof around it.
I still think there's there'ssome people out there that do
(27:10):
want the proof.
They just want to know.
Other people don't give a crap.
They've left, they've set.
You know it's creepy, we'redone.
You know, dr looper I think hecame out.
He had a reaction for the docreturn his.
His reaction was the end of theday.
If you side with any of it,it's just fucking wrong.
You know he's not changing hisopinion because he in his and
(27:34):
again dr lupo, is very similarin age, a family man, like a
very similar streamer to DockardDisrespect in terms of the
personal aspect.
He's just turned the end of theday.
That's just wrong.
He shouldn't have been thereand I get that.
I get that he shouldn't havebeen there yeah but I do say
it's gonna shake, you know,gonna bring back what we had a
(27:55):
couple of months ago when he,when he left.
There'll be another, you know Iexpect another week or so of
just news articles, jumping onit, putting out things, trying
to find more information.
I'm sure we'll probably, ifsomething does happen in this,
we'll probably mention it againin the future, but I just wanted
to bring it up.
I thought it was reallyinteresting that he actually
(28:16):
returned to streaming and heactually said something I, I am
too, and what I did catch of it?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I was shocked that it was like it was like the same
as it ever was.
Like the same opening, the sameintros, you know same character
.
Like I didn't know if it wouldbe more stripped down or
whatever, but like a statementyeah.
So what I find interesting aboutit, though, is you know, we've
talked about before how lots ofstreamers, online content
(28:43):
creators, personalities, havehad issues right, and they all
they do these bad things, andstuff happens and they get
canceled or they recover orwhatever.
And you know, once we've alwaystold people is you know, you,
you have to be careful of yourright brand.
You know, be careful what youdo, cause what you, everything
you say, is, is permanent, nomatter how to private.
(29:06):
You think it is.
Yeah, and it's making me wonder.
Now I'm thinking, you know, Ithink if you want to get into,
like do content creation, likethat's a job or a way to earn
money, you're subject to the, tothe public opinion based on it
for everything you do.
And it's like I'm thinking ofmyself, like I don't want to
(29:27):
have my career, my earning power, to be to hinge on what the
random internet person thinksabout me.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, like that, no, thank you yeah, they can be
stripped away from you.
So, so fast.
I mean, I saw it on tv theother day.
I was walking through thekitchen and the wife was
watching something and it wasfalse allegations about
something else and I'm like ittakes one and I'm and I don't
(29:56):
want to sound sexist at all whenI say this, but a vendettful Me
Too, fake Me Too moment wasbasically what I saw on the TV.
That's just a she's just gonehard at a fake Me Too moment
just to get what she not,because the world looks at it
differently and it doesn'tmatter whether you're innocent
(30:17):
or not.
You are going to have thatmoment of doubt, everyone will
have a moment of doubt, andyou're labeled like that for
life.
You're done, you're done yeah,yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They say that in politics all the time is when
they release something or leaksomething.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It doesn't have to be true, it just has to get out
there, except if you trump justseems to like reverse when
you're trying for some reason Idon't know what that is he's.
He's got a magical way ofdoesn't matter how bad or
something that comes out for him, he can turn that into into
gold I think because he's he'sdone so many insane things that
(30:57):
it just it's.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
It's people just numb to it.
They can be like oh, he punchedthe child in the face.
The classic trump, you know, itjust would.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Nothing phases people he should have done that at
home alone too, right yeah, butyeah, so that's it's turning it
all the way back around.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Like that's awesome that you're you kind of got the
energy again to get back into dosome streaming, you know, and I
think that, like, I thinkwhat's made the difference for
you is it like because you didone and like now you have a
little bit of motivation again.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, that's it.
I did one, had a little bit ofmotivation, that's.
That's all it's done.
Yeah, probably I'm not gonnatouch much more on it, all it up
here, but we'll be probablytouching base with it over
months.
I might just give a littleupdate here and there to say
where where things are with ityeah, cool.
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
I love this.
I haven't streamed regularly inabout a year.
Every now and then, right, I'min the exact same boat as you.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I think I've done more.
I don't game, really, I don'tdo shit in here.
I come in here and print.
I do my work.
Occasionally I might stuff upin the afternoon while I'm
working and then go okay, I'llthrow in a sneaky game while I'm
here.
It's slowing down a little bit,but I'm still at my computer
doing stuff.
But then when I do want a gameit's like oh, but you spend so
much time doing that.
(01:52):
I'm like where, where, who Me?
Is there someone else here?
We've gone back to thatnegotiating stage of things
where, okay, I've decidedWednesdays and Fridays.
Fridays is a horrible day forbeing a parent and streaming
usually yeah, I'm not going tolie, fridays is probably one of
(02:14):
the worst days to pick, but Idon't feel like my body can do
two work days because I used tostream only work days in the
past.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
So in my head friday is a flexible day.
So if something does come upfriday, then I'll just move it
to saturday yep, this weekendcome around friday, I'm buggered
because we're up thursday withsix children and that, and all
right, that's okay, I'll move itto saturday.
Yeah, well, the kids go out.
Why?
It's like, oh, how about wehave nice dinner and watch a
(02:45):
movie?
Oh, you wanted to stream?
I'm like, no, that's fine,we'll do that, we'll do that,
we'll watch, watch a movie.
So, watch, watching a movie.
Yeah, she fell asleep.
She fell asleep, yeah, an hourinto this, an hour into this
movie.
And by then I'm like, well, nowit feels weird, like I can't.
You know, I stopped end upstopping the movie sorting out
(03:06):
bedrooms so she could go tosleep, but you know it's 10.30
at night, 10 o'clock at night.
I've got to go pick up mydaughter from her job at 11.
It's not enough time to start astream, whereas the original
plan would have been, you know,I would have done at least two
hours, two and a half hours, andthen could have ended it.
Yeah, I pick her up.
You know, I might try tonight,I don't know, but it just feels.
(03:30):
You know, so far all my streamshave been severely broken.
Oh, really, just just obsissues, stream labs issues,
stream labs and tiktokmulti-stream issues.
Obs and tiktok live issue.
I am trying my brain oneverything that I know I have
adjusted some settings since thelast stream so this might
(03:53):
correct it, but I don't know.
I don't know till next time.
Like stream labs, all for doingmulti-stream tiktok and twitch
at the same time.
Yeah, launch is fine, startsrunning fine, rendering's fine.
It looks like it's going great.
20 minutes in end stream errorunknown error.
So it's a stream labs.
It's a stream lads issue, not amy, it's not a me issue, but it
(04:16):
seems like a their issuebecause I can replicate it
without doing anything right,you know.
So that's why I've gone to myolder way my obs broken again,
you know you're talking about.
Yeah, you mix it up, mix it up,ambassador.
I had to redo all my mix it upstuff and at the same time I you
know, not all of it, just someof it just adjusting little
(04:36):
things, especially jumpingbetween obs and stream lab.
So I've got to go through andadjust commands to for the, you
know, whatever.
But then I've got the issue ofwell, do I change to Atom?
So I paid for Atom.
Okay, I was like, yeah, allright, let's do it, let's give
Atom a go.
Loaded it up, went to do myfirst command.
This looks like too much effort.
(04:57):
I'm not using it.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I've been there .
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It does look nice Like.
It really does look like a niceinterface.
Way too much going on and itbore me for me to make the
switch.
I know Mixitup.
I don't have time to muckaround and try and learn a whole
new system.
I know Mixitup well.
Streamerbot's another one,there's some stuff that
StreamerBot does that I'm veryinterested in, because they have
some type of integration withTikTok now in StreamerBot.
(05:24):
Oh, do they.
Yeah, I think it's with that,that website, that tick infinity
or whatever the website is thatdoes the overrides, but it but
it can, it can pull informationfrom that, so that kind of.
So you can create triggersinside tiktok, you know in a way
.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So now that streamlabs integrates with
tiktok, does it have tiktokcommands and stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
no, no, you're actually.
You're actually better offusing tiktok live studio than
you are.
Like, the problem.
The one thing I like is obs.
I can still use tiktok live,and tiktok live studio has, like
I have things like I was doinga campaign.
This is what got me back intoit.
I was doing a campaign and,yeah, one of the things is
called flares.
So you launch a flare and itboosts pushing your live stream
(06:11):
to the for you page for like 30minutes 40 minutes, depending on
the flare that you got.
So I got given a couple of themso I could use that using
TikTok Live Studio.
I cannot use that with Labs.
Labs now has the option tocreate the title.
They never used to be able tochoose the title or category.
You can do that now, but youcan see chat, but that's kind of
(06:32):
where it ends.
You can't use any of the.
I was looking forward to havingintegration with their store
and being able to use overlayslike pop-ups, follow alerts,
stream goals, et cetera.
They do not have that option inStreamlabs, so it's basically
just a really raw stream.
A beautiful thing that they dodo is your scenes are joined
(06:54):
together, obviously, so when youchange to one scene.
It has a scene for both and youjust choose what assets, what
sources are shown on each one,what's vertical, what's
horizontal or both.
And obviously when you changescenes, you know I want to go
from a game stream to justchatting the scene.
It'll pick that up.
You can do that.
You can even set differentanimations, stingers and that
(07:16):
vertical and horizontal.
Like you know, all that stuff'scool.
Can't do that with obs.
So even though I've got adamand the rest of it and I've got
scenes there, if I change thescene in obs it doesn't link the
two together.
There might be a way haven'tdiscovered it yet, but that
doesn't seem like an easy wayfor me to just use the stream
deck.
Go, cool, it's starting, let'sgo to this scene.
(07:38):
No, it'll change one and thenI've got to click on the other.
Yeah, right, yeah, hopefullythis stuff settles, but it's,
it's been fun.
It has been fun.
Yeah, the support's been nice,actually, even with broken,
horribly broken streams.
You know the audio's gone theyou know the video is chugging
and lagging, like very earlystreamer shit going wrong.
(08:03):
The people come and buy it all.
You know there's a lot ofpeople that I haven't seen or
took to in ages that have beennice, that have popped in.
It's like you're back, welcomeback.
You know, I had someone come byon my last stream just as I was
ending it because I was havingissues.
He brought half his, some ofhis community with him because
he saw I was online.
It's like, oh, I'm gonna, I'mgonna tell these people to come,
come watch it.
So good.
And you know, I gained likefive followers at the end of a
(08:25):
stream nice, which was nice, butit's nice seeing people excited
that I'm back to sharing.
I didn't expect that's cool.
I kind of expected to come inreally quiet and nothing
happened for ages yeah, I thinkI I do miss that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I I do miss the people getting excited.
You know, know, because youknow regular life.
No one gets excited when youcome home from work.
No one gets excited about youwhen you go into your job, you
know, but being like, hey, it'sBearded Nova, you know.
If you hop in someone else'sstream, hey, nova's in chat.
Yeah, you know.
At home, like, oh, it's youagain.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Exactly.
You know I show up at theoffice at work.
I rarely go to the office.
I get there and it's like, hey,it'd be nice if you brought
coffees in for everyone.
Cool, that's it.
I've made the journey up here,so I need to give you guys
something.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, right, yes, I do.
I do miss that aspect of it alittle bit, but yeah, so I have
been watching a little bit tooand trying to get myself
motivated to come back andgoogle that every single week.
She's like are we streamingthis week?
I wish every single week.
Are we streaming this week?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I'm like no, no, no, I think you need to have like a
fun chat show again.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You had more fun doing chatting than you did
anything else yeah, I switchedto the gaming because I didn't
feel like doing anything else.
Yeah, and that's where you lostit.
You know, like when I'm gamingyeah, especially for the game
like call of duty or something Ihave to pay attention to I'm
paying attention to it like I'mnot looking at chat, you know I
think I think you need to go tolike fun, fun chat instead.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I mean, that's like yeah, that's a niche that you
did great at having a having.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I gotta get I gotta get that having, I gotta get
that motivation.
Yeah, I gotta get thatmotivation back you know that
was my motivation was TikTok.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Tiktok gave me my motivation to come back and it
was purely because I joined thatcreators.
The agency Hadn't really doneany streams.
You know, whatever Thing poppedup Black Wukong, black Myth
Wukong.
Would you like to get a CD keyfor it?
I'm like, yeah, why not?
Then would you like to get a cdkey for it?
I'm like, yeah, why not?
Then I get a message going ohyeah, you've been selected to do
(10:25):
it.
I'm like, oh shit, you know Idon't do anything anymore.
You guys have selected me.
And she goes yeah, the onlycondition is we want you to do
six hours between the 20th andthe 26th, so from launch, the
first six days of launch.
Okay, I can do that.
Like it was broken.
A lot of it broke.
As I said, there was lots ofstreams and restarting streams
in that time, but I still didoverseas and it was just doing
that.
Playing that like being forcedto hey, there's a game you need
(10:48):
to do this as a condition andthen forced to play two, three
nights in a week.
I was like I forgot about this.
This is fun.
I actually do enjoy this.
And then afterwards I'm like,okay, well, what am I Now?
I need to look at a schedule.
What am I going to do now?
It started that one game wasenough to give me a push to go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'vesaid it on here so many times
(11:11):
that I'm going to want to comeback.
I want to come back, but therewas not that motivation to hit
go live.
It got to normal time.
I'd stream I.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It got to you know, normal time I'd stream and like,
meh, I'd rather lay on thecouch and eat chips, like that's
.
So that my problem is likethat's where, where I've been,
it's just I just want to gameand not have to talk to anybody.
I don't want to have to narratewhat the fuck I'm doing.
You know what I mean and I, you, I've never truly enjoyed the
actual gaming and streamingbecause it's just not, it
(11:43):
doesn't work for my brain.
Yeah, but yeah, you're right,the chatting thing would be
interesting again.
I, I, every now and then I seepeople on tiktok or whatever
people that I know, like they'redoing these interview type
streams and I'm like mine wasbetter than that.
Like that makes me that kind ofmakes me motivated to want to
do it again, just like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's how you yeah, you don't know
what I mean.
That's exactly it.
I see things I'm like how Icould do that better.
I have been done that.
I have done that better.
I should do that better.
Even see like a couple ofpeople that I've like a game
with over the time due to liketimes when our streams would
overlap so we do a lot of collabstuff.
I miss that.
And then I see some of theirstreams and their streams is
(12:22):
missing.
That like.
In particular, there's a videoit's popped up twice now in a
memory from tiktok, one of the.
I think it's the first time Iplayed with ps2 fat boy and we
were playing yep, there was agroup of us and he's like anyone
wants to join, I've joined andthe chemistry of us two playing
at that time was just for afirst interaction.
(12:44):
It was just perfect.
It was funny.
Yeah, the clip was funny likewe just it bounced off each
other very naturally.
We were able to make thesejokes.
We both had similar humor likeit.
Just, it was great.
And I'm looking at god, hedoesn't even have that anymore.
I have that.
I don't have that.
He doesn't have that like I domiss that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That was fun, but that I was having fun, that
stream yep, I remember yousaying that, like I'm
remembering I having fun onstreams, like when I had when,
whether I had a guest or not, orlike I was interviewing, or
just like people on like two,three people.
I'm playing games and just likemaking fun of each other the
whole time or whatever, and thentrying to to scare me and like
(13:22):
phasmophobia yeah, that shit isfun.
Well, we've got that game.
What's fun?
I brought that game for us.
Oh, do you have the VR thing?
No, no, no, no, no, oh yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That other one, the game that you got like an expert
in it now, oh, really, yeah,he's like got a dedicated stream
once a week to that game.
Jesus, content warning, contentwarning.
It was.
But yeah, like that's a figurelike you, you that fun chatty
aspect, you know, one of thegreat early stream we've done
first things we ever donetogether was among us, yeah, big
(13:56):
among us.
That was fun.
Yeah, that was still a fun daythat was a fun night.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, because we had, like, all these people in there
very, very mixed bag in, there,though it was a very.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It was like booty beard and yeah, yeah there was a
bit of I think moose was inthere.
Mama moose was in there yeah, Ithink so yeah, that was it.
It was a mixed bag of peoplefrom all over the all over the
shop, but it was.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It was fun.
That was like when I was atlike about as well as I was
doing, you know, and I wasmeeting all these people and
that was cool.
I I think I just got like notto rehash every like, I just got
burnt out and like I stoppedseeing like the value for me for
what I was doing.
People like, oh, you're helpingme so much.
Cool, it's not helping me.
(14:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, that's why, with this having gone through
streaming, I've decided on twonights, not three.
Two I want to stream less thanwhat I was and I do plan.
You know I am thinking in myhead about what I'm going to
play ahead and if I can getcontent out of that.
So I want to know if that gameis going to give me enough
content that I can get clips topost on TikTok, like I really
(15:05):
similar to here where we've usedOpus and Opus has streamlined
this podcast from going from along form to short form.
I'm looking at that Like, ifI'm playing this, I don't want
to.
As much as I love doing littleTikToks here and there, I don't
want to be doing the regularrecording in front of a TikTok.
(15:26):
As much as I can, if I can do,if I can get away with, because
what was it?
We were doing three a day,seven days a week, at least 21
TikToks basically a week, yeah,at one stage.
You know, when you add thatover a month, you're in a
hundred on average a month, withreplies etc.
I want to get that down in halfas well and I would want
(15:47):
majority of that half toactually be from the stream and
clips.
Yeah, so I'm doing less.
I don't have to think too muchabout going crap.
I've got to record a tiktok fortoday.
I really want to get most of mytiktoks out of the stream to
give myself more time withoutoverloading myself yeah, and you
can still use like I.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I, first of all, I a thousand percent agree, because
if you can do it that way, thenyou don't have to come up with
another idea and shoot somethingelse and edit something else.
You're just clipping somethingand you might be able to find
like a trending sound that workswith whatever clip you're using
.
So you kind of get the best ofboth worlds.
But yeah, I agree, like youremember, like when we were both
super heavy into the tiktok,it's exhausting and I would be
(16:30):
posted.
Hey guys, I'm gonna record 50tiktoks this weekend because I
don't have any time the rest ofthe week and I would.
And I'm just like I'm sodrained, yeah, and you get.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The problem is I found it was a drain on both
sides, so it wasn't necessarilyTikTok or streaming draining me
personally, it was everythingelse outside that.
That stuff actually kept mepretty happy.
That was my happy place.
That was where I was, you know,really positive and that.
But then I'm doing heaps there.
I'm not, you know, reallypositive and that, but then I'm
doing heaps there, I'm not.
(17:01):
You know, I'm not doing itthrough work or whatever I'm.
You know I'm doing it when Ihave to, but then work would get
too overbearing and I'd have alot to do with work that would
just crush my TikTok or mystreaming, usually TikTok.
First, tiktok got crushed veryfast first because I get
overloaded with work orsomething.
I'm like I don't feel likedoing recordings now.
(17:22):
I'm depressed or burnt out, andthat was from work.
It wasn't TikTok, it was workthat actually was doing it first
, and then that just you knowwe're not doing the effort into,
and then that rolls into TikTok, not pushing it as much, or me
not having as much to do, andthen I'm looking at it feeling
like crap because I haven't doneanything or me not having as
much to do, and then I'm lookingat feeling like crap because I
haven't done anything.
It's just a roll on effect.
(17:43):
So I don't want to do thateither.
I don't want to feel like Ineed so much time and that work
takes that time away from me.
If I can, yeah, do it smarter,yep, yep, I do.
Do want to use, though, aswe're talking about streaming,
so much though dr disrespectreturned streaming yesterday
yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Once I didn't watch it I, I haven't been, I was
never a fan of his.
Like, I don't love his style.
I get a lot of people do that'scool.
But I did notice that the videohe did has two million views
already.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah I believe I saw his stream started
something like a quarter of amillion views at the start of
live and then it was.
But then I think it droppeddown and steadied to like 160,
200 viewers his stream.
What if he's monetized again onyoutube?
No, he's not sorry.
From what I could see, most Ididn't watch the stream.
I watched clips oh, not clipslike.
(18:33):
I kind of scrolled through thestart just to see how this
launch, how do you come back?
What do you do?
Just to see if there wasanything at the start of it.
There wasn't.
And then I found asmongoldreaction video to the topic.
Obviously that had to beaddressed in it.
Yep, and you know I'minterested to see how it goes.
It's very, very different.
(18:53):
He was getting lots ofdonations still from because you
can't stop, you know, yourstream elements or whatever that
people give you donations.
So he's still know,realistically, still made more
money in the 20 minutes I saw onan Asmongold video than most
streamers trying to go full time, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But his conversation came up around very directed at
Cody and the stuff that Codysaid on Twitter that he kind of
let a lot of it go and just besaid out without bringing in too
much comments or anything else.
(19:31):
And that was around thecontract with Twitch, like we
talked about at the time, theTwitch contract.
He still got paid out.
He still he still went to courtand got money for it.
And that was always a confusingpart of the whole scenario to
me is how does someone get moneyfor a contract when you would
(19:51):
have definitely broken?
That definitely would have beena clause to break contract,
especially multi-million dollarcontract.
So Doc talked about this.
All happened short, not longafter going signing the big deal
with twitch.
Prior, prior to twitch, he hada stream twitch partner manager
who did nothing for them, didn't, didn't push them to the front
(20:13):
page, didn't, didn't even followany of his accounts.
His partner manager didn'tactually follow anything.
So there was a lot of beefbetween him and this partner
manager and when time came to gobigger contract, he actually
put in their stipulation hewants a new partner manager For
obvious reasons.
You want someone if you'regoing to have a.
You're dealing with a brand.
(20:35):
You want a good connection andshortly after that it seems like
this ex-partner manager was alot involved in the allegations
the whispers, the pulling up theinformation on the whispers,
the push to get him banned.
There was a lot of oh wow,there was no conversations
between him about any of it.
(20:56):
It was just a straight-out,well banned situation where he
pointed out multiple times inthe past.
Twitch has had similar peoplein other situations and they get
to speak on their behalf.
There wasn't a ban.
They might've been suspended orthey'd been signed a new deal,
but similar cases in the past.
He sounded very much like itwas a bit of a conspiracy to
(21:18):
help get rid of him was hispoint of view.
He said the person was not aminor that they spoke to.
There was no conversation toactually meet up in person.
None of that was in the courtcases or anything like that.
Everything did go to the childsafety your version of child
safety over there.
(21:38):
They you know it's still tothis date.
Nothing has come from that.
There was nothing from theirinvestigation that it was so and
he's well, you know.
It does sound very much likethis person was 17.
Yes, I get it, 17.
It's, you know, 16's age, greywater there.
Yeah, obviously he's married.
Children shouldn't do shit likethat.
(22:00):
Yeah, but at the same timewe're kind of seeing where he's
coming from.
This, a lot of these things, hascaused a lot of movement for
him in a way that does seem likean attack, this.
So this all came out veryquickly after mix was collapsing
and you had the likes of stroudand ninja gonna be needing to
find a new home and thattwitches has put a lot of money
into doc and you going to beneeding to find a new home and
(22:21):
they just put a lot of moneyinto Doc and you need to get out
of a contract to try and getsome money to get some of these
people.
He had some valid points in hisconversation.
I mean the one thing I didn'thear and I haven't Googled to
see if this was, but I meanpersonally there's a lot
different defamation if this was.
But I mean personally there's alot different defamation.
(22:42):
Like if this is the case andthere's enough that has been
done, now he's lost a lot ofmoney, like I'd be looking at
Coyote to be like, well, you canpay me the money that I've just
lost because of you.
To be honest, there's no wayI'd just be like meh, I would
personally be looking at suing.
But, as you know, I guess morewill probably come to light Now.
(23:06):
More will come out about thesituation and happen.
Doc did mention that inside thesettlement with Twitch, you know
there was agreement.
No party was to talk about it.
They've just agreed.
You know normal settlementrules.
But now Cody and these otherpeople have started talking
about that's kind of broken thetwitch site so he can actually
(23:28):
he's gone away had a thoughtabout it.
Come back on you know what.
No, I am gonna say I am gonnasay some stuff about it.
So, right, it'll be veryinteresting, like I'm just still
very interested to know howthis all folds out in the end
yeah, oh, what was the?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
what's the reaction been like?
Because I haven't read too muchabout, I haven't seen, I
haven't looked anything ontotwitter yet.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Asmongold and he's chat were pretty positive, I
guess would probably be the bestway to put it.
A lot of them were like, yeah,okay, yeah, this this is kind of
making sense, but they'reasking, and you know they're.
They're a lot of them wereasking the same questions.
Well, sue, so we're waiting forthis announcement that you're
going to sue.
Doc's not a kid.
You know he isn't a kid, so Idon't, I don't expect him to act
(24:13):
like a kid and turn around andgo.
I'm suing this guy on theinternet.
That's something that heprobably, as an adult, or you
and me, if we were having, in,you know, discussions with
lawyers to do a defamation case.
I'm not announcing it on the.
You know what I mean.
That's going to be.
That's going to be closedbehind, behind doors, yep yep,
so that could be going to case,who knows?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
it's.
It's tough, like you know, when, when it, when we didn't know
what was going on for years, youknow didn't really think as
much about it.
When he kind of admittedsomething, that happened, you
know, everybody turned againsthim and I think the problem
right now is that reputationthat he got several months ago.
Those kind of allegations, evenif they're not true, they don't
go away.
No, they don't.
(24:54):
People, people will stillalways label him as one thing or
another, even if it'scompletely proven false.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I found, especially after Dr Disrespect,
we had the Mr Beast, Chris Ava.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, that all happened.
And that wasn't even him, thatwas like someone on the team.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, that's what I mean, Chris, the team member,
chris, oh yeah, but it stillaffected Mr Beast.
He's been under fire for lotsof different things.
Now they're not even looking atjust that.
They're looking at all types ofaspects, with mr beast still,
but his team member.
You know there was actuallyscreenshots of tweets, pulled up
information.
You know there was a lot ofactual evidence towards yeah or
(25:42):
proof to push you towards theway of going.
Hey, that's inappropriate.
No, that shouldn't be the case.
You know did.
Did mr beast take too long torespond?
Yeah, he probably needed torespond a lot sooner than what
he did for it.
I do understand, you know, along term.
You know that person had beenthere since the start with him,
so I do understand that.
But he probably needed to thinkabout the business faster and
(26:05):
the brand faster than that.
But how the internet reactedtowards Chris and Ava Chris
slash Ava because I'm trans thedifference was very night and
day between that and Doc, verynight and day.
I don't know why that's the case.
Like was it?
(26:25):
Was it that no one wanted toreally get hit hard because of
the the trans aspect to it?
Was it because of the mr beastaspect to it.
I don't know.
There's a lot.
Why two situations that arevery similar but then both have
different levels of evidence,why one can be very harshly
reacted and gone with little tono evidence.
(26:47):
Besides, I've got a source.
I'm sorry, but I don't hate.
I hate that I've got a sourcethat has said this no, that's
you know.
Everyone's saying I've got adifferent sort.
What's, what's this?
What's the source you know?
I mean I think the internetwants proof either way, like
like they got with chris, theygot proof around it.
I still think there's there'ssome people out there that do
(27:10):
want the proof.
They just want to know.
Other people don't give a crap.
They've left, they've set.
You know it's creepy, we'redone.
You know, dr looper I think hecame out.
He had a reaction for the docreturn his.
His reaction was the end of theday.
If you side with any of it,it's just fucking wrong.
You know he's not changing hisopinion because he in his and
(27:34):
again dr lupo, is very similarin age, a family man, like a
very similar streamer to DockardDisrespect in terms of the
personal aspect.
He's just turned the end of theday.
That's just wrong.
He shouldn't have been thereand I get that.
I get that he shouldn't havebeen there yeah but I do say
it's gonna shake, you know,gonna bring back what we had a
(27:55):
couple of months ago when he,when he left.
There'll be another, you know Iexpect another week or so of
just news articles, jumping onit, putting out things, trying
to find more information.
I'm sure we'll probably, ifsomething does happen in this,
we'll probably mention it againin the future, but I just wanted
to bring it up.
I thought it was reallyinteresting that he actually
(28:16):
returned to streaming and heactually said something I, I am
too, and what I did catch of it?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I was shocked that it was like it was like the same
as it ever was.
Like the same opening, the sameintros, you know same character
.
Like I didn't know if it wouldbe more stripped down or
whatever, but like a statementyeah.
So what I find interesting aboutit, though, is you know, we've
talked about before how lots ofstreamers, online content
(28:43):
creators, personalities, havehad issues right, and they all
they do these bad things, andstuff happens and they get
canceled or they recover orwhatever.
And you know, once we've alwaystold people is you know, you,
you have to be careful of yourright brand.
You know, be careful what youdo, cause what you, everything
you say, is, is permanent, nomatter how to private.
(29:06):
You think it is.
Yeah, and it's making me wonder.
Now I'm thinking, you know, Ithink if you want to get into,
like do content creation, likethat's a job or a way to earn
money, you're subject to the, tothe public opinion based on it
for everything you do.
And it's like I'm thinking ofmyself, like I don't want to
(29:27):
have my career, my earning power, to be to hinge on what the
random internet person thinksabout me.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, like that, no, thank you yeah, they can be
stripped away from you.
So, so fast.
I mean, I saw it on tv theother day.
I was walking through thekitchen and the wife was
watching something and it wasfalse allegations about
something else and I'm like ittakes one and I'm and I don't
(29:56):
want to sound sexist at all whenI say this, but a vendettful Me
Too, fake Me Too moment wasbasically what I saw on the TV.
That's just a she's just gonehard at a fake Me Too moment
just to get what she not,because the world looks at it
differently and it doesn'tmatter whether you're innocent
(30:17):
or not.
You are going to have thatmoment of doubt, everyone will
have a moment of doubt, andyou're labeled like that for
life.
You're done, you're done yeah,yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They say that in politics all the time is when
they release something or leaksomething.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It doesn't have to be true, it just has to get out
there, except if you trump justseems to like reverse when
you're trying for some reason Idon't know what that is he's.
He's got a magical way ofdoesn't matter how bad or
something that comes out for him, he can turn that into into
gold I think because he's he'sdone so many insane things that
(30:57):
it just it's.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
It's people just numb to it.
They can be like oh, he punchedthe child in the face.
The classic trump, you know, itjust would.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Nothing phases people he should have done that at
home alone too, right yeah, butyeah, so that's it's turning it
all the way back around.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Like that's awesome that you're you kind of got the
energy again to get back into dosome streaming, you know, and I
think that, like, I thinkwhat's made the difference for
you is it like because you didone and like now you have a
little bit of motivation again.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, that's it.
I did one, had a little bit ofmotivation, that's.
That's all it's done.
Yeah, probably I'm not gonnatouch much more on it, all it up
here, but we'll be probablytouching base with it over
months.
I might just give a littleupdate here and there to say
where where things are with ityeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
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