May 23, 2024 • 35 mins
The Meatballs Know Exactly What Every Father Should Do Now. In this episode we discuss: Squid Game Treats, Father Hand Memories, Letters Arriving After A 3 Year Journey, School Nurses And Scoliosis Tests, People Telling You That You Have Terrible Hair, and The Crockpot from Adam In Virginia, "How Do You Deal With People Giving Advice That Have No Business Doing So?"
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Dad's A Spicy Meatball, the show where
two tired dads, separated by 845impassable miles, try to keep
things silly but inevitably getoverly contemplative and often
weird.
Hello everybody, and welcome toanother episode of dad's a
(00:34):
spicy meatball.
We've got one of the spiciest,hottest, extra spicy, sweatiest,
sauciest, meatiest episodesthat you've ever experienced.
Tonight we are gonna go placesthat you've never been before,
and by that I mean this is justkind of my rambling intro, which
is the symptom of a broken,wilted mind, with a equally
(00:57):
wilted mind as my co-host, MrCorey.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Green.
Here I am.
I'm about to give you a soundeffect.
Let's see if I can get it inthere.
Oh, get it in.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, crunchy, how was that?
That was crunchy.
We didn't even say it was gonnabe crunchy.
We said it was gonna be saucyand spicy and sweaty.
But what are you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
what's you crunching on there, guy, uh, buddy of mine
who, you know, juno from korea,sent me, among other things
like basically a care package,was the.
You probably know what theseare called, but they're from
Squid Game.
You know the little like you've.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Squid Gamed, haven't you?
I haven't watched all of it yet.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Which game are you on ?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They just finished the little cutting out the
shapes game.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, well, that's what this is.
It's like little snackableversions of that Comes in a nice
little pouch, I already rippedthe top off.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Is versions of that comes a nice little palette
already ripped the top off.
Is there any kind of like deathawaiting you, if you?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
don't do some part of it correctly.
Possibly.
Possibly he didn't.
He didn't sort of mention thatin his letter, but maybe these
things are kind of incredible.
It is I, you know me, I don'thave a super sophisticated
palette, but I took one bite ofthese things and the texture is
such that it's like one of those, it it's kind of.
It's almost like a, like aCheez-It.
That's like been toasted insugar, so like sticks to your
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teeth, so kind of that, likecaramel.
The flavor tastes exactly.
I mean exactly like taking ohmy God, taking a s'more.
Like fresh out of the fire, ohwow, just like smashed.
So no chop minus the chocolate,so just the chocolate, just the
malo and the graham cracker.
(02:32):
Wow, that's exactly what ittastes like it's delicious.
So I sent him one of the everevery father should, things like
what was that like?
Four or five years?
Well, how old's my kid?
He's.
That was four years ago,because I sent him about six
months before he was born, Ithink, or so.
And for a reminder, you guyshave heard this story that the
meatballs have.
But in case you didn't listento that episode or whatever,
this was a letter that I sent toa bunch of men that I respected
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that had had children, and itwas just a simple card that just
said every father should,father should, and then it was
blank, right, and so then theyhave the opportunity to fill in
a blank and mail it back to me,so sort of my way of inviting
people into this sort offatherhood journey with me.
And and, by the way, I got onefrom kyle in the mail two weeks
ago oh, maybe did you ask for itor did you send it well, no, no
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, sorry, he's, he's doing it, hedid it oh for himself, for his
kid yeah, so, yeah.
So my brother, he very, whichI'm by sort of co-opted it, and
yeah is doing it as well, so Ihaven't filled his out yet.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That seed has has has bared a lot of fruit.
I mean, this podcast isbasically a spinoff of that as
well.
We have a lifestyle brand thatcame as a result of it too.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We have an Instagram handle.
It's all great, it's all great,it's all great.
So when I mailed that to junoI've obviously never mailed
anything to korea I had no idealike I literally I had to google
like three different timesbecause I couldn't figure out
the order of the addressing.
Very confusing, because the waythat he sent it to me was the
way that you would like justmail stuff it was.
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It was like I couldn't figureout if it was how I was supposed
to put it because it was likedifferent than the way we did it
, or if it was him trying toamericanize it for me.
And I was like it's one thingfor this to get out of america,
which obviously, like the koreashould probably resolve that,
but it's another thing,apparently, for it to actually
get to korea and like find themproperly.
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And so I said that to him threeand a half years ago and did
not hear a thing, nothing.
And oh, by the way, the likepostage guy was like you're
sending us where, like when Idid it, that's going to be any
like told me like the postage,and he's like actually it's
going to be inside to like repaytwice, just buy all the stamps.
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All the stamps is all you need.
Man, come on multiple thingsthat I was like this is just not
, this is not gonna work.
So I had no idea if he got it,had no, I nothing.
And then last week we got on mycar and there was like a piece
of trash in our bushes, like ourfront bushes.
I was like what is that?
I went and grabbed it and itwas a notice from UPS that I had
missed a package that I neededto sign for.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I was there when this happened.
Was that you?
So you saw this.
I saw the note in the bush.
Oh, did you really?
Yes, I saw it after you pickedit up.
Okay, got it, got it.
I mean, I don't.
I don't make a habit of lookingaround in people's bushes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, you might, so anyway.
So I assumed you were with me.
I didn't think you'd have it, Ijust assumed it was like one of
bo's christmas presents.
And so I went to.
I went and they like, oh, yougot a sign for this, okay, and
they brought it out.
I was like what in the world isthis?
And it was a package from judo,and so it was like so he hadn't
had a kid yet.
I think he and his partner werepregnant, or maybe were just
about to be whenever I sent itto him, which is one of those
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things where I wanted hisperspective and so he responded
he did not include the EveryFather Should what.
He didn't include the card.
So I think he lost the card.
Come on, probably more likelyit probably got mangled.
He referenced it and he saidthat's why he was writing.
I was like that's cool.
And then he sent us like a longletter about like fatherhood.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Can you just go get it and read it in its entirety?
An extremely personal messagethat was just for you.
That would be awesome, just forall the people.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And then I'll send him this podcast so he can
listen to me reading it.
We're really trying to buildour Korean audience, absolutely.
If you could send this to yourfriends, he included these nice
little notes explaining whateverything was, and one of them
was those little things.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Nice, magical.
Those neighborhoods are crazy,so you want to hear our address.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, when you were in Korea.
Why didn't I ask you when I wasmailing?
You would have known how to dothis.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I might have.
If you were sending it to me,it would have known how to do
this.
I might have, but so it would.
You would.
If you're sending it to me, itwould have been gumi, south
korea, in chongdong, gamcha, andthen it would have.
And then you would have had tospell out the numbers of our
apartment, because you get thecity, the neighborhood, and then
the building just had its ownname.
So our building was just calledpotato.
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That was what the word meant.
Oh, we're the, we were inpotato, and the building next to
us was love.
So if you were in.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If you were in in shangdong, you were looking for
the potato and the love building, you would have found us I just
remember going in, I justremember going into google maps
and, depending on the order inwhich I put things, there were
three different locations in thesame city that it might go to
and I was like I don't knowwhich one's his.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Because there was probably a potato building in
every neighborhood, you know,and the neighborhood was like a
couple blocks, it wasn't, likeyou know, a huge swath of things
.
So just in case the meatballswant to send you a care package,
could you give them youraddress real quick, just in case
the meatballs want to send youa care package.
Could you give them youraddress real quick?
Spat that out.
We will love your care packages.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Whatever's in it, we don't you know, yeah, send them
our way, full open invitation.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
whatever it is, it could be living, it could be
whatever you want to put in apackage and send it to us, just
find us on Venmo, just do that.
Just make it easy.
That would be really fun.
We could just get a PO box andbe like, yeah, go, nuts,
whatever weird stuff you want tosend us, and then we could just
go to the PO box every coupleof weeks and be like, oh my gosh
, I got a lot of crickets orwhatever it is that we got.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Give me a podcast idea.
What's in the box?
What's in the box?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Every week you just open up the PO box.
Whatever people mailed you.
Oh, I like that.
What was the was there like?
So school nurses, could they?
Could they give you legallyanything other than a cold
compress for any kind of ailment?
Like do you, can you picture?
Well, you had asthma, didn'tyou?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
or do, hold on, follow my train stay on the
train stay on I know, I knowthis is going somewhere and I'm
trying to figure it out no, I'mjust saying the nurse at school,
the nurse at school yeah, yeah,yeah, we've jumped to school.
Yes, I'm tracking.
Could she give you anythingother than cold complex?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
yeah, I mean you had, you had your inhaler.
That was like with her, correct?
I think I just carried in mybackpack.
Oh, you were allowed to, Ithink.
I think at our school youweren't allowed to carry
anything.
If you were to administer ityou would have to go to the.
But I guess an inhaler.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You got to need it there, In elementary school, I
think.
Maybe, Although it didn't, yeah, maybe in elementary school.
In junior high I carried itwith me, but in elementary
school I think I'd be able toget it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, okay, that's what I'm thinking, because
anytime that was offered to mewas a cool compress and it was
wrapped up with that tan papertowels that are not absorbent at
all.
They're wrapped around it andgetting wet and just on whatever
body part you just hurt.
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Do you have any similarmemories to this?
Is that just me?
Did you all have better papertowels?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We didn't have better paper towels.
We had the same paper towels.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't know I didn't go a lot, but my tummy hurts.
Well, I can give you a coldcompress.
That's what you want.
Yeah, I remember a lot of justlay down and we'll call your
mother, and that was a veryrelieving.
I can picture when you justsaid that.
I have a picture in my head ofsitting on that vinyl bed thing
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that was in there and thenseeing my mom pass by the open
door and be like I'm out of here.
I'm out of here, man, I'm gone.
He just sprung me free.
One call, that's all.
It took Cold compress.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Dude, this is sitting my brain down.
This like weird, nostalgic, likerabbit hole of, like weird Okay
, cause we're at that age where,like it's been a long time
since we were in elementary andjunior high been a minute, yeah,
and I'm I'm literally tryingand like I, of course, like any
good adult or or just likescared, shitless child, I've
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since then had plenty of justweird recurring dreams about
either going to the nurses orgoing to the principal's office
in junior high or high school,like failing to have my schedule
put together in time, thosekind of weird things, yeah.
But now, now that you're talkingabout it, I'm literally in my
head going like is that reallywhat it looked like or is that
what my recurring dream lookedlike?
I can't, I literally can'tdistinguish in my head.
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I'm literally sitting heretrying to distinguish reality
from.
I'm picturing specifically thenurse's station and I'm sitting
here going the the way that Iremember that, or at least the
way that it's like filling in mybrain that wasn't my elementary
school, I don't think, becauseI'm picturing that office and
that looked different.
And then I'm like that wasn'tmy junior high, because I'm
picturing that and I think thatlooked different.
So what?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
is this image?
Is it like Saved by the Bell?
Perhaps, maybe, or somethinglike that, or maybe maybe it was
my previous life, you know, ohwow that's the only.
Thing that's the only thingshowing through is the nurse's
office what a disappointment.
Must have had quite anexperience I had quite an
experience, because I mostly, ifI'm picturing it, I see the
elementary school one, because Ithink I definitely was going
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there more often than any other.
In the middle school school,one I have a bit of memory of.
Do you remember scoliosistesting?
Oh, yeah, right.
So you had to take your shirtoff, bend over and touch your
toes.
I was a string bean and shejust kept having me bend over a
bunch of times in a row andshe's like I don't think you
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have scoliosis, but you're justso skinny.
It's hard to tell and at thetime I just accepted that as
some sort of real thing.
And now I'm like, if anything,you could see it all so much
easier because I had no muscleor fat to block my frail spine
Like what.
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I don't understand.
Why, my, are you just shamingme?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You're a bizarre shape.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I wish I could tell if it was a scoliosis, but
you're just so ugly and I justcan't.
Your haircut's the worst, butthis naked is so hard to tell if
this is scoliosis or not.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Your spine's fine, but your hair, your hair is
garbage.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Did you have the like like middle part situation
going?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
on.
There was definitely like achili bowl phase, which was a
middle part phase.
Yeah, that definitely happenedat some point.
I think I basically had badhair all my life until I was
like 25, and literally a woman Iworked with goes Corey, you
have really nice hair, but theway you do it is really fucked
up.
Is this someone you worked with?
Because, cory, you have reallynice hair, but the way you do it
is?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
really fucked up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
This is somebody you worked with.
Oh yeah, she was australian andshe was just.
She was just like very straightshooter.
Wow, she's like you.
You dress fine, but you do yourhair like a child.
You're an adult now, I'm and soshe literally, was like she was
like we're gonna find you aproper barber shop and I'm gonna
take you and we're going to goget your haircut.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
She's the one responsible for what we see
today.
Wow, she is.
We went on a Saturday, she madea terrible mistake.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
She literally met me in Soho and went to a barber
shop and got a barber haircut.
Now you're a man I'm verygrateful for that Very awkward.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
No need for a bar mitzvah, just a haircut, just a
verbal kick in the nuts.
Have you had any of those kindof conversations?
No, have you ever told somebodythe thing that nobody will tell
them?
No, never.
Like even you have to me,haven't you you have?
If I've done it, it was I knowone about me, but you go on,
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okay.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, maybe I have.
I have said things, probablyout of spite, that other people
would not say yes.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I'm good at that.
What did I do to you?
What did I do about somethingelse?
So remember, we wentbackpacking around Central
America and we were in the rainyseason.
We smelled horrible, and sohorrible that we couldn't even
smell ourselves.
By the end of it, we came andstayed at your apartment in New
York.
We knew we stunk and still wetried to tuck all of our stuff
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as much in the corner aspossible and we're like we also
didn't really know the fullvolume of our stink At that
point.
You did not say a word whileyou were there.
Like two years later you saidsomething.
I said something.
You're like at least I didn'tstink up your apartment, oh dear
God.
And I was like I'm sorry weshould have gone to a laundromat
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.
In hindsight we just were likeoh well, we've got it contained.
We've got our like reallystinky stuff.
It's down the bottom, Nobodycan smell it.
I was so we were so gross thatmy hiking boots were growing
Like there was like green moldgrowing in my boots because I
was just wet for like two monthsstraight.
The other one was about thegame I found out that you guys
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used to play, which is when isscott gonna buy a round of
drinks, and it was usuallyforever.
I usually was not gonna buy onebecause at that time I had a
very even stingier than I am now, which was like I was like well
, I'm planning to buy threedrinks tonight and I don't
really want to participate inyou know, didn't find out about,
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but you're happy to receive.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
you didn't want to participate in it.
I didn't find out about that,but you're happy to receive.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You didn't want to participate, but you're happy to
receive.
I mean it's in my hand.
What am I supposed to do withit, corey?
Am I supposed to turn it away?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's much ruder you know, In some ways my life
would be different if theability to purchase booze were
just cut out of my life.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'd be in a different financial situation.
No, it was two sides of a coin.
No, I mean, it's not there,there were.
There was me that I should havebeen buying equal share.
But again, it was just my veryrigid thinking.
And then I was like guys, we'regoing to this bar, I've got
enough money for three drinksand I'm planning to buy myself
three drinks, and you guys arebuying rounds all over the place
and I'll just drink what you'rejust terrible I learned but it
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was part of my just not goodshare in general thing, like how
I didn't share any food oranything, just was I had my
allotted amount cory, and thatwas government issued and you
can't take that from me.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I won't do it.
Yeah, and we knew you took itseriously, so we didn't.
We just played a game and wedidn't tell you Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So what I want you to think about like this is kind
of a weird exercise but I wantyou to think about there's like
something about father's hands.
Like there's something therewhere I don't know they're
familiar, maybe to you in someway, or maybe even, like as a
kid, was there something thatyou looked at those hands and
thought a thing.
So the reason I'm asking thequestion is I'm thinking about
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my dad's and if I'm justpicturing a generic image of my
dad's hands, he is cutting hisfingernails with the scissors on
a Swiss army swiss army knifeand I I think that is like a in
some ways is like a very tellingportrait actually, in a way,
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because he is he's very tidy andalways has been, like for my
whole life, clean and tidy anddressed, neat and you know all
those sorts of things.
I have no picture in my head ofhim needing a haircut, needing
his fingernails clipped, needinga shave, any of those things
(17:59):
ever.
Really, is there something foryou or is there like an image,
or you can picture that whereit's telling in a similar kind
of way?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
well, I think I think for kids, your dad's hands are
always the biggest ones in thehousehold, so just something
about them being like big andstrong.
You know there's especially asa Well, I think, for kids, your
dad's hands are always thebiggest ones in the household.
So there's just something aboutthem being like big and strong
you know, especially as a boy, Ithink.
Well, I think women too, I thinkwe just sort of interpret
differently, you know, and Ithink for boys we sort of see it
, we find our own strength inthat, and I'm sure women do too.
(18:32):
But I think there's also maybelike a security as well Although
I'm projecting, I shouldn'tpretend to know that.
So I do think there's like justsomething I don't know if it's
a universal human thing there'ssomething about just like
growing up.
Like your sort of father'shands are, I think, sometimes
good, sometimes bad.
So I remember my dad's hands.
I remember my grandfather waslike very clearly, partially
because he had shops, half ofhis, what was his pinky off he
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had?
Like he had like a couple of.
He had a couple of fingers thathe had like shopped off enough
that he didn't have a fingernail, oh man, anyways, but he had
like a nub, you know.
So I remember that.
But I also, just like I canremember what he he did with his
hands Kind of your point oflike and this is a fear of mine
which we'll come back to, whichis similar to a thread that
we've talked about before butlike I can remember him building
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things with his hands and Iremember just like watching his
hands.
I can remember them likeworking, like working in a
garden or like even just likecooking me pancakes on like a
cast iron stove.
I remember that.
And I just remember he was apreacher, so how he held his
Bible.
I remember very specifically Iremember little things like that
and I obviously loved himtremendously, and my dad's
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probably to a lesser degree, butI remember how he gripped the
steering wheel and I rememberhis college ring that he would
wear and I remember where my, mygranddad's were like thick and
the skin was like leathery, youknow, from years of labor.
Basically, my dad's were verylike long and sand and manicure,
not like he's going to get manipedis, but like taken care of.
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Yeah, I don't know what it is.
There's like a weird, there'slike a very strange sort of
weird connection or admirationor something there yeah, a lot
of those what you were saying,like the driving.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I was like I can picture exactly the driving
stance, like the style I canpicture, like his ring and how
that's interacting with things.
It wasn't until you saidsomething that I went oh, I
guess I have a big back catalogof that.
Hand memories, hand memories.
I'm like that's so strange andthere's not a lot of people that
(20:39):
I can say that about, but Iguess for some reason, yeah, my
fear is and again topics thatwe've talked about, but one is
Bo's going to remember my handholding a phone.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So that's inevitable.
So it's like I got to kind ofget past that.
What my fear is that, likewhenever he starts having
screens, he's not gonna remembermy hands at all, because if
he's in the back seat will hehave a screen and if so, he'll
never notice it.
You know, like part of it, likepart of the reason we noticed
these things is because we hadnothing else to do, like we sort
of observed.
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I, and this one for me is lessof a worry about how my hands
will be remembered they may notbe remembered at all.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I hadn't thought of that.
That's true.
I think we just say put yourphone down and look at my hands,
Check these hands out.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Hey Corey, hey Scott.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I like this one.
I like this question.
Can I say I feel targeted, allright?
This is from Adam.
Okay, I like this question.
Can I say I feel targeted, allright, and then you'll
understand why.
So this is from Adam, fromVirginia.
Adam says I'm struggling withthe proliferation of internet
blogs, blogs and podcasts fromparents who give often wrong
advice based on personalexperience and not any medical
(21:49):
or psychological science.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
How to deal with this stream of conflicting
information.
Guys, this guy's got jokes.
Easy guy Get out of here, he'sgot jokes.
So, yeah, what do we do withthis?
I think we've talked about itin kind of similar ways.
But what do we do with thisproliferation?
Everybody's got a differentopinion.
There's all these blogs.
(22:12):
There's all these blogs,there's all these talking heads.
You know just dumb guys outhere that are just shooting from
the hip and they got no medicalor psychological background,
but they are just, yeah, givingadvice willy-nilly.
I think this is an important,important time to.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
While the podcast is not satire, we do not pretend to
offer any sort of advice thatanyone should actually take.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
We should have had a lot of, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I feel like Adam's taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know, in just a passive-aggressive way, that's
all.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Adam, my advice is to get off your phone.
It's been time to get you know.
Maybe quit scouring theinternet for out of parent.
Maybe just do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
How about you stop looking up big words like
proliferation and you just?
That brings us to theconclusion of Dad's Spicy
Meatball Podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We've been found out.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
We've been found out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
We've been, we've been found out, we've been found
out.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
We've been Actually underneath.
It says that he's with what ishis body.
He's part of some sort of lawenforcement.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He must have been giving misinformation.
You know how they have the cult.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Watch law enforcement .
It's kind of a similar subsetof guys.
They're just looking at dumbpodcasts.
Watch, you know, lawenforcement.
It's kind of a similar subsetof guys.
They're just looking at dumbpodcasts.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
There's a cult watch version of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, there's a whole like I don't know which branch
they're in, but they literallyare monitoring cults around the
United States to see if they'regoing to actually be a dangerous
thing.
Yeah, isn't that kind ofinteresting.
I didn't know that.
So, yeah, they're on to ourlake house cult.
Whoops, we tried.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We tried.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Let's see here.
You want me to take a stab?
Yeah, you take a stab.
Yeah, take a stab.
You're just too hurt.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I can see it on your face.
I'm taking it personally.
He's taking it personallyhere's my advice.
Ask your doctor or find, like,make friends with a pediatrician
, I don't know, like, this islike I don't know, I, I, I.
This is I'm a little bit.
(24:29):
Yeah, we live in a world fullof full of misinformation and
echo chambers.
You gotta figure out how to getout of this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He struck a nerve there, adam, yeah you're asking
to get out of.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
You gotta pick a pill and move, brother can that be
the next t-shirt?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
pick a pill and move?
We can.
If it's just kind of loose,matrix type images, I think
we're safe from copyright rightprobably totally safe.
It was just like a guy was likejust kind of like ray-bans on
instead of those weirdsunglasses amorphous has.
I think we're, we're covered,basically right.
It's just like a guy with likejust kind of like Ray-Bans on
instead of those weirdsunglasses the Morpheus has, I
think we're, we're covered,basically Right.
It's just like a cool guytrying to give drugs to somebody
(25:13):
.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, john Wick's a cool guy.
He'll be totally down with it.
Give your thoughtful answer.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't know if I have one, I'm just going to stab
around in the dark until I Ifeel like, what would I say?
Are we just going to teach likea internet sources class?
So now we're going to followthat source and we're going to
see where that leads to, and youknow where we ended up.
It had a lot of EDUs attachedto it, in this case, shell
(25:44):
organization run by Breitbart.
Know that?
What would I say?
I mean, you know, like you said,find a physician.
You, you vibe with one of mybuddies.
His friend was a doctor, apediatrician, and so I was like
picking his brain.
I was just like you know, whatdo you do with this?
We hear conflicting things.
We've heard conflicting thingsfrom different pediatricians
(26:05):
about this.
We just had varying degrees ofsuccess with picking
pediatricians we like andwhatever.
And he just goes it sounds likeyou're a difficult patient.
Oh, I like that.
I tried to backpedal quickly.
I was like I mean, no, I mean Ijust there's just a few like
things that I would hope to see,that are kind of like markers
to me of somebody that I trustin what they're saying.
(26:26):
And yeah, you're probably right, that's what it is he was like
he was, like there's just not.
He's like there's becoming lessand less of us and yeah, you're
not gonna find a perfect one,so just go with what you got.
Go with what you got and I waslike, all right, I guess I
will's fine, but it's mychildren's lives that are in
(26:47):
your hands, sir.
No, I mean, we've landed onones that are just like if they
were on Good Morning America.
That tends to be kind of likeif they're a doctor and they
landed on a Good Morning America.
That seems like a good place tostart.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I do.
I will say I can't relate interms of blogs and video blogs.
I just don't inherently trustpeople.
If I have to Google it, I don'ttrust the results, unless it's
coming from the Mayo Clinic orsome hospital that I recognize
and respect, or some school orwhatever.
(27:23):
Unless there is a scientificstudy attached to it.
Whatever, I don't care howstrongly they believe it or pawn
it off as fact.
Where it's tricky are all theseparenting books, because they're
like we read one that peopleare like pretty crazy about and
it's very like pseudosciencey,like very pseudosciencey, like
(27:46):
just a lot of anecdotal evidence, a lot of like personal stories
.
In my experience I've coachedthousands of parents but no real
data, like the appearance ofdata, but no real data.
You know, and I still thinksome of that.
That doesn't mean it's notnecessarily valuable, because
you know if somebody really doeshave the experience and it's
popular enough that people seemto think that it's working.
(28:07):
But even like in 2021, likeeven that is sort of like a or
22 wherever we are in our livesat this point, even that is not
like enough.
There's millions of people thatthink of covid.
It's like not a real thing,right.
So so like even that's notenough.
I don't know it's, it's, Idon't know man.
Vet, your vet, your resources,yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I think I feel the same way.
I feel about this kind of stuff, maybe the same way I feel
about workouts, which is like ifit's a fad or if they have a
tagline attached to it or theyhave whatever, then I just
assume it's garbage.
I feel like if it appears thatit's just selling a new spin on
(28:49):
things, then it's like ifsomebody came to me and they
said oh yeah, we actually havesome parenting advice.
It's not very glamorous, it's abook and it's just called, it's
Hard and we Don't have All theAnswers, Then I would be like,
okay, that's the one.
But if it's like and we don'thave all the answers, then I
would be like, okay, that's theone.
But if it's like the no stressparenting book or the the French
(29:14):
do it this way parenting bookor the whatever, I'm like easy,
like that's just, like, that'sjust so you can advertise this
thing.
You just try to come with anangle here and like now you're
presenting this as if it's somebrand new and revolutionary
thing and I always feelskeptical of it.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Well, to be honest, whenever I heard the first
version you recommended beforeI'd heard of it, the first
person you recommended HappiestBaby on the Block I was like I
immediately don't trust this.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I immediately.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Don't trust this book .
It sounds like completebullshit.
It sounds like totallyPollyanna and turns out it's
hugely popular.
But we had it.
Yeah, we have it too, we have itand I did this stuff I can't
remember which books we liked,it didn't like, but it's your
exercise sort of metaphor is agood one, because I would sort
of say, like I'd give sort of adifferent angle on the same
(30:04):
thing you said, which is is, inmy opinion, like if you're
talking to somebody who is onthe couch, it doesn't really
matter what the fat is, as longas it gets them off the couch
and moving.
Cool, go do it.
And I kind of feel the same wayabout parenting, like, as long
as it's not hurting your child,it is making you either more
sane or a better parent, orbeing more thoughtful about how
(30:27):
you parent.
Like, go do it.
Like, as long as, again, aslong as you're not doing any
harm, you know, I mean it's,it's the difference between oh
boy, this is this would be alike, a real polarizing thing.
But like women, oh boy, go.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh, boy Go, stop yeah .
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Back up.
Just take like breastfeedingvery polarizing, you are hurting
your kid developmentally If youdon't do it.
Science would say actuallyscience, there's science that
argues on both sides Right, butlike your kid's going to be fine
If you don't do it.
You got to figure out whatworks for you.
And even if you say like, okay,we agree on breastfeeding, how
(31:10):
long should you breastfeed yourchild?
There's massive disagreementsthere, yeah, but like
everything's an opinion,everything's an opinion.
The RPD nutrition actually doessay and I appreciate him saying
this is like the best parent isa I can't remember parent is a
happy or sane parent.
Just do what keeps you sane.
(31:34):
And he's right.
It's those little moments whereyou just go off the deep end
because you're losing yourfucking mind.
They're going to scar yourchildren.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
We've adopted it.
It's a book that I just got.
It's called Skydiving With yourKids.
When you just do it, you startreally early.
Yeah, because that's thereality of everything.
It's like all fear is taughtright, so you can also un-teach
fear.
You don't need to have heightsor jumping off of tall things.
(32:03):
Those don't need to be concerns.
You know what I mean.
So you start really early with.
That Keeps me sane to yourpoint and a lot of quality time.
You can't hear them much.
It's loud, the wind's loud.
I'll put a resource to thatbook, cool, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's a link at the bottom ofthis episode, so anybody who
(32:24):
wants to find that one, it'spretty good and I would argue
some people want a tandem jump.
I would say, let them go, youknow, let them, let them.
Let them spread their own wings,let them free fall solo, you
know it's like the baby bird inthe nest, right if, if mama held
on to him all the time, henever learned to fly.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So kind of the same.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
You gotta push them out right, right, no, I think
that's fair.
I mean, that's because that'sthe whole thing is, you know,
for your examples of, like youknow, breastfeeding or something
like that?
It's like there's so much guiltaround it that, like some women
kill themselves trying to makethings happen when it's not
going to happen, is a mom who isa mess because of how
(33:06):
challenging this is, thatactually a better substitute
than formula, and one who isokay and happy and not?
I think that's a.
I think that's a smart way tohandle it.
For sure is the idea of somelevel of parents sanity.
I don't know what I'm saying.
I'm so tired.
Wrap that shit up.
(33:28):
I think what Scott's trying tosay is that love is blind.
I mean, love is blind.
Is what I'm trying to say?
No, adam, I feel for you.
It's a tough road out there,but I think just look for
whatever's got the most views onYouTube and that's pretty solid
.
I don't know how we can do itbetter.
(33:50):
Facebook is the answer, brotherMeta, please if you could Meta.
Sorry, if you can find it on.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Meta, it's probably accurate.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, nobody even knows what you're talking about
when you say Facebook.
We've already made the switch.
Yeah, you're right.
Alright, meatballs, it's thattime.
Good, good lord, it's that time.
We need to let you get out ofhere.
If you want to be on the show,please send us a question dad's
(34:18):
a spicy meatball at gmailcom andyou can get in the crock pot.
We'll talk about it if it'ssomething that we think is
interesting, and apparently ifyou blast us the way Adam does,
that's a surefire way to get onthe show.
Yeah, you got me real riled uptonight.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Thank, you Adam.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You sure did.
He was flagging and that pulledhim right out of it.
Had to be going, had him going.
Special thanks to Nick Shields,the band Odd Folks for our
theme music, special thanks toJulie Hartman for our artwork
and a special thanks to youthere fella, fella guy, fella
guy, fella guy.
Is there any other old-timeyterms that I could start using?
(34:55):
Tj used to say boyos.
I liked that.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Boyos, big time boyos .
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Hey, so give it to me like he'd walk in the house.
What did he say?
Hey boyos, hiya boyos.
That's right, it was hiya boyos, hiya boyos.
That's good, anyways, glad totalk to you, I'm I'm gonna fall
asleep minutes after this isover, as we, as we finish, and
there he is, he's a goner.
What do you say next week?
(35:22):
Yeah, let's give it a go giveit a go love you and I'll talk
to you then, toodles.
Welcome to Dad's A Spicy Meatball, the show where
two tired dads, separated by 845impassable miles, try to keep
things silly but inevitably getoverly contemplative and often
weird.
Hello everybody, and welcome toanother episode of dad's a
(00:34):
spicy meatball.
We've got one of the spiciest,hottest, extra spicy, sweatiest,
sauciest, meatiest episodesthat you've ever experienced.
Tonight we are gonna go placesthat you've never been before,
and by that I mean this is justkind of my rambling intro, which
is the symptom of a broken,wilted mind, with a equally
(00:57):
wilted mind as my co-host, MrCorey.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Green.
Here I am.
I'm about to give you a soundeffect.
Let's see if I can get it inthere.
Oh, get it in.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, crunchy, how was that?
That was crunchy.
We didn't even say it was gonnabe crunchy.
We said it was gonna be saucyand spicy and sweaty.
But what are you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
what's you crunching on there, guy, uh, buddy of mine
who, you know, juno from korea,sent me, among other things
like basically a care package,was the.
You probably know what theseare called, but they're from
Squid Game.
You know the little like you've.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Squid Gamed, haven't you?
I haven't watched all of it yet.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Which game are you on ?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They just finished the little cutting out the
shapes game.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, well, that's what this is.
It's like little snackableversions of that Comes in a nice
little pouch, I already rippedthe top off.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Is versions of that comes a nice little palette
already ripped the top off.
Is there any kind of like deathawaiting you, if you?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
don't do some part of it correctly.
Possibly.
Possibly he didn't.
He didn't sort of mention thatin his letter, but maybe these
things are kind of incredible.
It is I, you know me, I don'thave a super sophisticated
palette, but I took one bite ofthese things and the texture is
such that it's like one of those, it it's kind of.
It's almost like a, like aCheez-It.
That's like been toasted insugar, so like sticks to your
(02:11):
teeth, so kind of that, likecaramel.
The flavor tastes exactly.
I mean exactly like taking ohmy God, taking a s'more.
Like fresh out of the fire, ohwow, just like smashed.
So no chop minus the chocolate,so just the chocolate, just the
malo and the graham cracker.
(02:32):
Wow, that's exactly what ittastes like it's delicious.
So I sent him one of the everevery father should, things like
what was that like?
Four or five years?
Well, how old's my kid?
He's.
That was four years ago,because I sent him about six
months before he was born, Ithink, or so.
And for a reminder, you guyshave heard this story that the
meatballs have.
But in case you didn't listento that episode or whatever,
this was a letter that I sent toa bunch of men that I respected
(02:55):
that had had children, and itwas just a simple card that just
said every father should,father should, and then it was
blank, right, and so then theyhave the opportunity to fill in
a blank and mail it back to me,so sort of my way of inviting
people into this sort offatherhood journey with me.
And and, by the way, I got onefrom kyle in the mail two weeks
ago oh, maybe did you ask for itor did you send it well, no, no
(03:18):
, sorry, he's, he's doing it, hedid it oh for himself, for his
kid yeah, so, yeah.
So my brother, he very, whichI'm by sort of co-opted it, and
yeah is doing it as well, so Ihaven't filled his out yet.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That seed has has has bared a lot of fruit.
I mean, this podcast isbasically a spinoff of that as
well.
We have a lifestyle brand thatcame as a result of it too.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We have an Instagram handle.
It's all great, it's all great,it's all great.
So when I mailed that to junoI've obviously never mailed
anything to korea I had no idealike I literally I had to google
like three different timesbecause I couldn't figure out
the order of the addressing.
Very confusing, because the waythat he sent it to me was the
way that you would like justmail stuff it was.
(04:02):
It was like I couldn't figureout if it was how I was supposed
to put it because it was likedifferent than the way we did it
, or if it was him trying toamericanize it for me.
And I was like it's one thingfor this to get out of america,
which obviously, like the koreashould probably resolve that,
but it's another thing,apparently, for it to actually
get to korea and like find themproperly.
(04:23):
And so I said that to him threeand a half years ago and did
not hear a thing, nothing.
And oh, by the way, the likepostage guy was like you're
sending us where, like when Idid it, that's going to be any
like told me like the postage,and he's like actually it's
going to be inside to like repaytwice, just buy all the stamps.
(04:47):
All the stamps is all you need.
Man, come on multiple thingsthat I was like this is just not
, this is not gonna work.
So I had no idea if he got it,had no, I nothing.
And then last week we got on mycar and there was like a piece
of trash in our bushes, like ourfront bushes.
I was like what is that?
I went and grabbed it and itwas a notice from UPS that I had
missed a package that I neededto sign for.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I was there when this happened.
Was that you?
So you saw this.
I saw the note in the bush.
Oh, did you really?
Yes, I saw it after you pickedit up.
Okay, got it, got it.
I mean, I don't.
I don't make a habit of lookingaround in people's bushes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, you might, so anyway.
So I assumed you were with me.
I didn't think you'd have it, Ijust assumed it was like one of
bo's christmas presents.
And so I went to.
I went and they like, oh, yougot a sign for this, okay, and
they brought it out.
I was like what in the world isthis?
And it was a package from judo,and so it was like so he hadn't
had a kid yet.
I think he and his partner werepregnant, or maybe were just
about to be whenever I sent itto him, which is one of those
(05:49):
things where I wanted hisperspective and so he responded
he did not include the EveryFather Should what.
He didn't include the card.
So I think he lost the card.
Come on, probably more likelyit probably got mangled.
He referenced it and he saidthat's why he was writing.
I was like that's cool.
And then he sent us like a longletter about like fatherhood.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Can you just go get it and read it in its entirety?
An extremely personal messagethat was just for you.
That would be awesome, just forall the people.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And then I'll send him this podcast so he can
listen to me reading it.
We're really trying to buildour Korean audience, absolutely.
If you could send this to yourfriends, he included these nice
little notes explaining whateverything was, and one of them
was those little things.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Nice, magical.
Those neighborhoods are crazy,so you want to hear our address.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, when you were in Korea.
Why didn't I ask you when I wasmailing?
You would have known how to dothis.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I might have.
If you were sending it to me,it would have known how to do
this.
I might have, but so it would.
You would.
If you're sending it to me, itwould have been gumi, south
korea, in chongdong, gamcha, andthen it would have.
And then you would have had tospell out the numbers of our
apartment, because you get thecity, the neighborhood, and then
the building just had its ownname.
So our building was just calledpotato.
(07:04):
That was what the word meant.
Oh, we're the, we were inpotato, and the building next to
us was love.
So if you were in.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If you were in in shangdong, you were looking for
the potato and the love building, you would have found us I just
remember going in, I justremember going into google maps
and, depending on the order inwhich I put things, there were
three different locations in thesame city that it might go to
and I was like I don't knowwhich one's his.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Because there was probably a potato building in
every neighborhood, you know,and the neighborhood was like a
couple blocks, it wasn't, likeyou know, a huge swath of things
.
So just in case the meatballswant to send you a care package,
could you give them youraddress real quick, just in case
the meatballs want to send youa care package.
Could you give them youraddress real quick?
Spat that out.
We will love your care packages.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Whatever's in it, we don't you know, yeah, send them
our way, full open invitation.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
whatever it is, it could be living, it could be
whatever you want to put in apackage and send it to us, just
find us on Venmo, just do that.
Just make it easy.
That would be really fun.
We could just get a PO box andbe like, yeah, go, nuts,
whatever weird stuff you want tosend us, and then we could just
go to the PO box every coupleof weeks and be like, oh my gosh
, I got a lot of crickets orwhatever it is that we got.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Give me a podcast idea.
What's in the box?
What's in the box?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Every week you just open up the PO box.
Whatever people mailed you.
Oh, I like that.
What was the was there like?
So school nurses, could they?
Could they give you legallyanything other than a cold
compress for any kind of ailment?
Like do you, can you picture?
Well, you had asthma, didn'tyou?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
or do, hold on, follow my train stay on the
train stay on I know, I knowthis is going somewhere and I'm
trying to figure it out no, I'mjust saying the nurse at school,
the nurse at school yeah, yeah,yeah, we've jumped to school.
Yes, I'm tracking.
Could she give you anythingother than cold complex?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
yeah, I mean you had, you had your inhaler.
That was like with her, correct?
I think I just carried in mybackpack.
Oh, you were allowed to, Ithink.
I think at our school youweren't allowed to carry
anything.
If you were to administer ityou would have to go to the.
But I guess an inhaler.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You got to need it there, In elementary school, I
think.
Maybe, Although it didn't, yeah, maybe in elementary school.
In junior high I carried itwith me, but in elementary
school I think I'd be able toget it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, okay, that's what I'm thinking, because
anytime that was offered to mewas a cool compress and it was
wrapped up with that tan papertowels that are not absorbent at
all.
They're wrapped around it andgetting wet and just on whatever
body part you just hurt.
(09:36):
Do you have any similarmemories to this?
Is that just me?
Did you all have better papertowels?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We didn't have better paper towels.
We had the same paper towels.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't know I didn't go a lot, but my tummy hurts.
Well, I can give you a coldcompress.
That's what you want.
Yeah, I remember a lot of justlay down and we'll call your
mother, and that was a veryrelieving.
I can picture when you justsaid that.
I have a picture in my head ofsitting on that vinyl bed thing
(10:09):
that was in there and thenseeing my mom pass by the open
door and be like I'm out of here.
I'm out of here, man, I'm gone.
He just sprung me free.
One call, that's all.
It took Cold compress.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Dude, this is sitting my brain down.
This like weird, nostalgic, likerabbit hole of, like weird Okay
, cause we're at that age where,like it's been a long time
since we were in elementary andjunior high been a minute, yeah,
and I'm I'm literally tryingand like I, of course, like any
good adult or or just likescared, shitless child, I've
(10:42):
since then had plenty of justweird recurring dreams about
either going to the nurses orgoing to the principal's office
in junior high or high school,like failing to have my schedule
put together in time, thosekind of weird things, yeah.
But now, now that you're talkingabout it, I'm literally in my
head going like is that reallywhat it looked like or is that
what my recurring dream lookedlike?
I can't, I literally can'tdistinguish in my head.
(11:05):
I'm literally sitting heretrying to distinguish reality
from.
I'm picturing specifically thenurse's station and I'm sitting
here going the the way that Iremember that, or at least the
way that it's like filling in mybrain that wasn't my elementary
school, I don't think, becauseI'm picturing that office and
that looked different.
And then I'm like that wasn'tmy junior high, because I'm
picturing that and I think thatlooked different.
So what?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
is this image?
Is it like Saved by the Bell?
Perhaps, maybe, or somethinglike that, or maybe maybe it was
my previous life, you know, ohwow that's the only.
Thing that's the only thingshowing through is the nurse's
office what a disappointment.
Must have had quite anexperience I had quite an
experience, because I mostly, ifI'm picturing it, I see the
elementary school one, because Ithink I definitely was going
(11:48):
there more often than any other.
In the middle school school,one I have a bit of memory of.
Do you remember scoliosistesting?
Oh, yeah, right.
So you had to take your shirtoff, bend over and touch your
toes.
I was a string bean and shejust kept having me bend over a
bunch of times in a row andshe's like I don't think you
(12:09):
have scoliosis, but you're justso skinny.
It's hard to tell and at thetime I just accepted that as
some sort of real thing.
And now I'm like, if anything,you could see it all so much
easier because I had no muscleor fat to block my frail spine
Like what.
(12:29):
I don't understand.
Why, my, are you just shamingme?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You're a bizarre shape.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I wish I could tell if it was a scoliosis, but
you're just so ugly and I justcan't.
Your haircut's the worst, butthis naked is so hard to tell if
this is scoliosis or not.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Your spine's fine, but your hair, your hair is
garbage.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Did you have the like like middle part situation
going?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
on.
There was definitely like achili bowl phase, which was a
middle part phase.
Yeah, that definitely happenedat some point.
I think I basically had badhair all my life until I was
like 25, and literally a woman Iworked with goes Corey, you
have really nice hair, but theway you do it is really fucked
up.
Is this someone you worked with?
Because, cory, you have reallynice hair, but the way you do it
is?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
really fucked up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
This is somebody you worked with.
Oh yeah, she was australian andshe was just.
She was just like very straightshooter.
Wow, she's like you.
You dress fine, but you do yourhair like a child.
You're an adult now, I'm and soshe literally, was like she was
like we're gonna find you aproper barber shop and I'm gonna
take you and we're going to goget your haircut.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
She's the one responsible for what we see
today.
Wow, she is.
We went on a Saturday, she madea terrible mistake.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
She literally met me in Soho and went to a barber
shop and got a barber haircut.
Now you're a man I'm verygrateful for that Very awkward.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
No need for a bar mitzvah, just a haircut, just a
verbal kick in the nuts.
Have you had any of those kindof conversations?
No, have you ever told somebodythe thing that nobody will tell
them?
No, never.
Like even you have to me,haven't you you have?
If I've done it, it was I knowone about me, but you go on,
(14:08):
okay.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, maybe I have.
I have said things, probablyout of spite, that other people
would not say yes.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I'm good at that.
What did I do to you?
What did I do about somethingelse?
So remember, we wentbackpacking around Central
America and we were in the rainyseason.
We smelled horrible, and sohorrible that we couldn't even
smell ourselves.
By the end of it, we came andstayed at your apartment in New
York.
We knew we stunk and still wetried to tuck all of our stuff
(14:46):
as much in the corner aspossible and we're like we also
didn't really know the fullvolume of our stink At that
point.
You did not say a word whileyou were there.
Like two years later you saidsomething.
I said something.
You're like at least I didn'tstink up your apartment, oh dear
God.
And I was like I'm sorry weshould have gone to a laundromat
(15:09):
.
In hindsight we just were likeoh well, we've got it contained.
We've got our like reallystinky stuff.
It's down the bottom, Nobodycan smell it.
I was so we were so gross thatmy hiking boots were growing
Like there was like green moldgrowing in my boots because I
was just wet for like two monthsstraight.
The other one was about thegame I found out that you guys
(15:31):
used to play, which is when isscott gonna buy a round of
drinks, and it was usuallyforever.
I usually was not gonna buy onebecause at that time I had a
very even stingier than I am now, which was like I was like well
, I'm planning to buy threedrinks tonight and I don't
really want to participate inyou know, didn't find out about,
(15:51):
but you're happy to receive.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
you didn't want to participate in it.
I didn't find out about that,but you're happy to receive.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You didn't want to participate, but you're happy to
receive.
I mean it's in my hand.
What am I supposed to do withit, corey?
Am I supposed to turn it away?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's much ruder you know, In some ways my life
would be different if theability to purchase booze were
just cut out of my life.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'd be in a different financial situation.
No, it was two sides of a coin.
No, I mean, it's not there,there were.
There was me that I should havebeen buying equal share.
But again, it was just my veryrigid thinking.
And then I was like guys, we'regoing to this bar, I've got
enough money for three drinksand I'm planning to buy myself
three drinks, and you guys arebuying rounds all over the place
and I'll just drink what you'rejust terrible I learned but it
(16:37):
was part of my just not goodshare in general thing, like how
I didn't share any food oranything, just was I had my
allotted amount cory, and thatwas government issued and you
can't take that from me.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I won't do it.
Yeah, and we knew you took itseriously, so we didn't.
We just played a game and wedidn't tell you Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So what I want you to think about like this is kind
of a weird exercise but I wantyou to think about there's like
something about father's hands.
Like there's something therewhere I don't know they're
familiar, maybe to you in someway, or maybe even, like as a
kid, was there something thatyou looked at those hands and
thought a thing.
So the reason I'm asking thequestion is I'm thinking about
(17:16):
my dad's and if I'm justpicturing a generic image of my
dad's hands, he is cutting hisfingernails with the scissors on
a Swiss army swiss army knifeand I I think that is like a in
some ways is like a very tellingportrait actually, in a way,
(17:37):
because he is he's very tidy andalways has been, like for my
whole life, clean and tidy anddressed, neat and you know all
those sorts of things.
I have no picture in my head ofhim needing a haircut, needing
his fingernails clipped, needinga shave, any of those things
(17:59):
ever.
Really, is there something foryou or is there like an image,
or you can picture that whereit's telling in a similar kind
of way?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
well, I think I think for kids, your dad's hands are
always the biggest ones in thehousehold, so just something
about them being like big andstrong.
You know there's especially asa Well, I think, for kids, your
dad's hands are always thebiggest ones in the household.
So there's just something aboutthem being like big and strong
you know, especially as a boy, Ithink.
Well, I think women too, I thinkwe just sort of interpret
differently, you know, and Ithink for boys we sort of see it
, we find our own strength inthat, and I'm sure women do too.
(18:32):
But I think there's also maybelike a security as well Although
I'm projecting, I shouldn'tpretend to know that.
So I do think there's like justsomething I don't know if it's
a universal human thing there'ssomething about just like
growing up.
Like your sort of father'shands are, I think, sometimes
good, sometimes bad.
So I remember my dad's hands.
I remember my grandfather waslike very clearly, partially
because he had shops, half ofhis, what was his pinky off he
(18:59):
had?
Like he had like a couple of.
He had a couple of fingers thathe had like shopped off enough
that he didn't have a fingernail, oh man, anyways, but he had
like a nub, you know.
So I remember that.
But I also, just like I canremember what he he did with his
hands Kind of your point oflike and this is a fear of mine
which we'll come back to, whichis similar to a thread that
we've talked about before butlike I can remember him building
(19:22):
things with his hands and Iremember just like watching his
hands.
I can remember them likeworking, like working in a
garden or like even just likecooking me pancakes on like a
cast iron stove.
I remember that.
And I just remember he was apreacher, so how he held his
Bible.
I remember very specifically Iremember little things like that
and I obviously loved himtremendously, and my dad's
(19:44):
probably to a lesser degree, butI remember how he gripped the
steering wheel and I rememberhis college ring that he would
wear and I remember where my, mygranddad's were like thick and
the skin was like leathery, youknow, from years of labor.
Basically, my dad's were verylike long and sand and manicure,
not like he's going to get manipedis, but like taken care of.
(20:06):
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
There's like a weird, there'slike a very strange sort of
weird connection or admirationor something there yeah, a lot
of those what you were saying,like the driving.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I was like I can picture exactly the driving
stance, like the style I canpicture, like his ring and how
that's interacting with things.
It wasn't until you saidsomething that I went oh, I
guess I have a big back catalogof that.
Hand memories, hand memories.
I'm like that's so strange andthere's not a lot of people that
(20:39):
I can say that about, but Iguess for some reason, yeah, my
fear is and again topics thatwe've talked about, but one is
Bo's going to remember my handholding a phone.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So that's inevitable.
So it's like I got to kind ofget past that.
What my fear is that, likewhenever he starts having
screens, he's not gonna remembermy hands at all, because if
he's in the back seat will hehave a screen and if so, he'll
never notice it.
You know, like part of it, likepart of the reason we noticed
these things is because we hadnothing else to do, like we sort
of observed.
(21:09):
I, and this one for me is lessof a worry about how my hands
will be remembered they may notbe remembered at all.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I hadn't thought of that.
That's true.
I think we just say put yourphone down and look at my hands,
Check these hands out.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Hey Corey, hey Scott.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I like this one.
I like this question.
Can I say I feel targeted, allright?
This is from Adam.
Okay, I like this question.
Can I say I feel targeted, allright, and then you'll
understand why.
So this is from Adam, fromVirginia.
Adam says I'm struggling withthe proliferation of internet
blogs, blogs and podcasts fromparents who give often wrong
advice based on personalexperience and not any medical
(21:49):
or psychological science.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
How to deal with this stream of conflicting
information.
Guys, this guy's got jokes.
Easy guy Get out of here, he'sgot jokes.
So, yeah, what do we do withthis?
I think we've talked about itin kind of similar ways.
But what do we do with thisproliferation?
Everybody's got a differentopinion.
There's all these blogs.
(22:12):
There's all these blogs,there's all these talking heads.
You know just dumb guys outhere that are just shooting from
the hip and they got no medicalor psychological background,
but they are just, yeah, givingadvice willy-nilly.
I think this is an important,important time to.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
While the podcast is not satire, we do not pretend to
offer any sort of advice thatanyone should actually take.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
We should have had a lot of, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I feel like Adam's taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know, in just a passive-aggressive way, that's
all.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Adam, my advice is to get off your phone.
It's been time to get you know.
Maybe quit scouring theinternet for out of parent.
Maybe just do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
How about you stop looking up big words like
proliferation and you just?
That brings us to theconclusion of Dad's Spicy
Meatball Podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We've been found out.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
We've been found out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
We've been, we've been found out, we've been found
out.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
We've been Actually underneath.
It says that he's with what ishis body.
He's part of some sort of lawenforcement.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He must have been giving misinformation.
You know how they have the cult.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Watch law enforcement .
It's kind of a similar subsetof guys.
They're just looking at dumbpodcasts.
Watch, you know, lawenforcement.
It's kind of a similar subsetof guys.
They're just looking at dumbpodcasts.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
There's a cult watch version of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, there's a whole like I don't know which branch
they're in, but they literallyare monitoring cults around the
United States to see if they'regoing to actually be a dangerous
thing.
Yeah, isn't that kind ofinteresting.
I didn't know that.
So, yeah, they're on to ourlake house cult.
Whoops, we tried.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We tried.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Let's see here.
You want me to take a stab?
Yeah, you take a stab.
Yeah, take a stab.
You're just too hurt.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I can see it on your face.
I'm taking it personally.
He's taking it personallyhere's my advice.
Ask your doctor or find, like,make friends with a pediatrician
, I don't know, like, this islike I don't know, I, I, I.
This is I'm a little bit.
(24:29):
Yeah, we live in a world fullof full of misinformation and
echo chambers.
You gotta figure out how to getout of this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He struck a nerve there, adam, yeah you're asking
to get out of.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
You gotta pick a pill and move, brother can that be
the next t-shirt?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
pick a pill and move?
We can.
If it's just kind of loose,matrix type images, I think
we're safe from copyright rightprobably totally safe.
It was just like a guy was likejust kind of like ray-bans on
instead of those weirdsunglasses amorphous has.
I think we're, we're covered,basically right.
It's just like a guy with likejust kind of like Ray-Bans on
instead of those weirdsunglasses the Morpheus has, I
think we're, we're covered,basically Right.
It's just like a cool guytrying to give drugs to somebody
(25:13):
.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, john Wick's a cool guy.
He'll be totally down with it.
Give your thoughtful answer.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't know if I have one, I'm just going to stab
around in the dark until I Ifeel like, what would I say?
Are we just going to teach likea internet sources class?
So now we're going to followthat source and we're going to
see where that leads to, and youknow where we ended up.
It had a lot of EDUs attachedto it, in this case, shell
(25:44):
organization run by Breitbart.
Know that?
What would I say?
I mean, you know, like you said,find a physician.
You, you vibe with one of mybuddies.
His friend was a doctor, apediatrician, and so I was like
picking his brain.
I was just like you know, whatdo you do with this?
We hear conflicting things.
We've heard conflicting thingsfrom different pediatricians
(26:05):
about this.
We just had varying degrees ofsuccess with picking
pediatricians we like andwhatever.
And he just goes it sounds likeyou're a difficult patient.
Oh, I like that.
I tried to backpedal quickly.
I was like I mean, no, I mean Ijust there's just a few like
things that I would hope to see,that are kind of like markers
to me of somebody that I trustin what they're saying.
(26:26):
And yeah, you're probably right, that's what it is he was like
he was, like there's just not.
He's like there's becoming lessand less of us and yeah, you're
not gonna find a perfect one,so just go with what you got.
Go with what you got and I waslike, all right, I guess I
will's fine, but it's mychildren's lives that are in
(26:47):
your hands, sir.
No, I mean, we've landed onones that are just like if they
were on Good Morning America.
That tends to be kind of likeif they're a doctor and they
landed on a Good Morning America.
That seems like a good place tostart.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I do.
I will say I can't relate interms of blogs and video blogs.
I just don't inherently trustpeople.
If I have to Google it, I don'ttrust the results, unless it's
coming from the Mayo Clinic orsome hospital that I recognize
and respect, or some school orwhatever.
(27:23):
Unless there is a scientificstudy attached to it.
Whatever, I don't care howstrongly they believe it or pawn
it off as fact.
Where it's tricky are all theseparenting books, because they're
like we read one that peopleare like pretty crazy about and
it's very like pseudosciencey,like very pseudosciencey, like
(27:46):
just a lot of anecdotal evidence, a lot of like personal stories
.
In my experience I've coachedthousands of parents but no real
data, like the appearance ofdata, but no real data.
You know, and I still thinksome of that.
That doesn't mean it's notnecessarily valuable, because
you know if somebody really doeshave the experience and it's
popular enough that people seemto think that it's working.
(28:07):
But even like in 2021, likeeven that is sort of like a or
22 wherever we are in our livesat this point, even that is not
like enough.
There's millions of people thatthink of covid.
It's like not a real thing,right.
So so like even that's notenough.
I don't know it's, it's, Idon't know man.
Vet, your vet, your resources,yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I think I feel the same way.
I feel about this kind of stuff, maybe the same way I feel
about workouts, which is like ifit's a fad or if they have a
tagline attached to it or theyhave whatever, then I just
assume it's garbage.
I feel like if it appears thatit's just selling a new spin on
(28:49):
things, then it's like ifsomebody came to me and they
said oh yeah, we actually havesome parenting advice.
It's not very glamorous, it's abook and it's just called, it's
Hard and we Don't have All theAnswers, Then I would be like,
okay, that's the one.
But if it's like and we don'thave all the answers, then I
would be like, okay, that's theone.
But if it's like the no stressparenting book or the the French
(29:14):
do it this way parenting bookor the whatever, I'm like easy,
like that's just, like, that'sjust so you can advertise this
thing.
You just try to come with anangle here and like now you're
presenting this as if it's somebrand new and revolutionary
thing and I always feelskeptical of it.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Well, to be honest, whenever I heard the first
version you recommended beforeI'd heard of it, the first
person you recommended HappiestBaby on the Block I was like I
immediately don't trust this.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I immediately.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Don't trust this book .
It sounds like completebullshit.
It sounds like totallyPollyanna and turns out it's
hugely popular.
But we had it.
Yeah, we have it too, we have itand I did this stuff I can't
remember which books we liked,it didn't like, but it's your
exercise sort of metaphor is agood one, because I would sort
of say, like I'd give sort of adifferent angle on the same
(30:04):
thing you said, which is is, inmy opinion, like if you're
talking to somebody who is onthe couch, it doesn't really
matter what the fat is, as longas it gets them off the couch
and moving.
Cool, go do it.
And I kind of feel the same wayabout parenting, like, as long
as it's not hurting your child,it is making you either more
sane or a better parent, orbeing more thoughtful about how
(30:27):
you parent.
Like, go do it.
Like, as long as, again, aslong as you're not doing any
harm, you know, I mean it's,it's the difference between oh
boy, this is this would be alike, a real polarizing thing.
But like women, oh boy, go.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh, boy Go, stop yeah .
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Back up.
Just take like breastfeedingvery polarizing, you are hurting
your kid developmentally If youdon't do it.
Science would say actuallyscience, there's science that
argues on both sides Right, butlike your kid's going to be fine
If you don't do it.
You got to figure out whatworks for you.
And even if you say like, okay,we agree on breastfeeding, how
(31:10):
long should you breastfeed yourchild?
There's massive disagreementsthere, yeah, but like
everything's an opinion,everything's an opinion.
The RPD nutrition actually doessay and I appreciate him saying
this is like the best parent isa I can't remember parent is a
happy or sane parent.
Just do what keeps you sane.
(31:34):
And he's right.
It's those little moments whereyou just go off the deep end
because you're losing yourfucking mind.
They're going to scar yourchildren.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
We've adopted it.
It's a book that I just got.
It's called Skydiving With yourKids.
When you just do it, you startreally early.
Yeah, because that's thereality of everything.
It's like all fear is taughtright, so you can also un-teach
fear.
You don't need to have heightsor jumping off of tall things.
(32:03):
Those don't need to be concerns.
You know what I mean.
So you start really early with.
That Keeps me sane to yourpoint and a lot of quality time.
You can't hear them much.
It's loud, the wind's loud.
I'll put a resource to thatbook, cool, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's a link at the bottom ofthis episode, so anybody who
(32:24):
wants to find that one, it'spretty good and I would argue
some people want a tandem jump.
I would say, let them go, youknow, let them, let them.
Let them spread their own wings,let them free fall solo, you
know it's like the baby bird inthe nest, right if, if mama held
on to him all the time, henever learned to fly.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So kind of the same.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
You gotta push them out right, right, no, I think
that's fair.
I mean, that's because that'sthe whole thing is, you know,
for your examples of, like youknow, breastfeeding or something
like that?
It's like there's so much guiltaround it that, like some women
kill themselves trying to makethings happen when it's not
going to happen, is a mom who isa mess because of how
(33:06):
challenging this is, thatactually a better substitute
than formula, and one who isokay and happy and not?
I think that's a.
I think that's a smart way tohandle it.
For sure is the idea of somelevel of parents sanity.
I don't know what I'm saying.
I'm so tired.
Wrap that shit up.
(33:28):
I think what Scott's trying tosay is that love is blind.
I mean, love is blind.
Is what I'm trying to say?
No, adam, I feel for you.
It's a tough road out there,but I think just look for
whatever's got the most views onYouTube and that's pretty solid
.
I don't know how we can do itbetter.
(33:50):
Facebook is the answer, brotherMeta, please if you could Meta.
Sorry, if you can find it on.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Meta, it's probably accurate.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, nobody even knows what you're talking about
when you say Facebook.
We've already made the switch.
Yeah, you're right.
Alright, meatballs, it's thattime.
Good, good lord, it's that time.
We need to let you get out ofhere.
If you want to be on the show,please send us a question dad's
(34:18):
a spicy meatball at gmailcom andyou can get in the crock pot.
We'll talk about it if it'ssomething that we think is
interesting, and apparently ifyou blast us the way Adam does,
that's a surefire way to get onthe show.
Yeah, you got me real riled uptonight.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Thank, you Adam.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You sure did.
He was flagging and that pulledhim right out of it.
Had to be going, had him going.
Special thanks to Nick Shields,the band Odd Folks for our
theme music, special thanks toJulie Hartman for our artwork
and a special thanks to youthere fella, fella guy, fella
guy, fella guy.
Is there any other old-timeyterms that I could start using?
(34:55):
Tj used to say boyos.
I liked that.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Boyos, big time boyos .
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Hey, so give it to me like he'd walk in the house.
What did he say?
Hey boyos, hiya boyos.
That's right, it was hiya boyos, hiya boyos.
That's good, anyways, glad totalk to you, I'm I'm gonna fall
asleep minutes after this isover, as we, as we finish, and
there he is, he's a goner.
What do you say next week?
(35:22):
Yeah, let's give it a go giveit a go love you and I'll talk
to you then, toodles.
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