I'm Sorry, I Love You / Ep. 95

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(00:19):
I'm Jessica and this is Taba K Rambles where a couple of
friends review Korean dramas andwe're back for a throwback
episode, a throwback K drama. And for this episode, I'm joined
by my friend Lola from Lola Popsoff about K dramas.
How are you, Lola? Good, I'm so good.
How are you it's good to see you.
I'm super excited. Also slightly nervous, but not

(00:41):
really, because every time I come in here, I'm like, I have
such a good time just chatting with you.
But then I'm also like, wait a minute.
There's probably hundreds of people that are going to listen
to this. Wait a minute.
SNA Focus girl, focus. Please don't think of it that
way. Honestly, I think like 5 people
listen to me like that's how that's how I get through it.
That's how I get through it. Yes, you know 5.

(01:04):
People, no one's listening, Yeah.
No one's listening because I always, you know, we're like
very opinionated. We talk our shit and we have a
lot of fun and we keep it light a lot of the time.
So if I'm thinking people are getting riled.
Up about anything that we think I didn't.
Do it. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I would sit here and, like, be frozen anyway.

(01:25):
Lola, how have you been? What have you been watching
lately? Please let me know.
So I've been doing well and I have been slow with my K drama
watching. I'm going to be honest, like I
haven't been as up on it, but most recently I I've been
starting or started watching thefirst night with the Duke with,

(01:45):
you know, our K pop duo, which has been great.
It's been great. I mean, I'm actually not that
great. Why do you?
I don't mean to laugh but like when you said K pop duo, I just
thought of that old like water park commercial with SNSD and
2:00 PM. Yes.
What was it for beer? Wasn't it for like Cass?
Was that was it for like the Cass beer?

(02:06):
It was a water park. Do you remember?
It was the entire like thing. But I thought it was.
It was for the water park. I remember the one about the
beer I thought it was. I thought they were together in
this beer commercial, too. Maybe that was just 2:00 PM.
It's only been 20 years. 20 years, right?
But I I think I probably know what you're saying.
Yeah, pitching. Now I have to send you.

(02:26):
The link please put this. I'll put it somewhere like this
commercial. It's freaking wild.
There's love lines in it. They're honestly 2:00 PM.
Is applying sunscreen to like SNC?
Yes, wait a minute. Oh my gosh, I think I know
exactly what was that for, though.
It was a water. Park.
It was a water. Park.
That's what it was. I remember that.

(02:48):
Oh, but OK, yeah. So now we're circling back.
And I'm sorry that was. Text, Text and this drama.
Yeah. What is it?
So young. Are you liking it?
Not it's not the best, I'm goingto be honest, but it's it's easy
to watch. So I'm still checking out.
But as far as my favorite that I'm watching right now, it

(03:09):
definitely would have to be Our Unwritten Soul.
I just finished I. Think yes, it just finished like
this weekend, but I haven't watched the final two episodes.
So yeah, I haven't gotten to it yet, but we've been loving that.
I have been loving that one. Love to hear it.
I will say Our Unwritten Soul isThe One Show out of the ones
that you've mentioned that I have on my finished 2025 list,

(03:31):
my infamous finish the year list.
I know that I always make. Hopefully I get to it.
I always basically binge watch everything that I missed in the
year that interests me. Yeah, in the last quarter of the
year. Which is a good idea because
sometimes you got to, you got tolet all of it kind of marinate,
let it do run its course, see what everybody else is talking

(03:53):
about. And then you're like, you know
what? OK, these are the ones I'm going
to actually go back and watch. I think that's a great idea.
I hate being a Guinea pig. That's right, I don't like being
a Guinea pig anymore. I do like being a Guinea pig
though, I you. You give a lot of.
Things a shot. I do, and I admire you for it.
I like, I don't. I I like, like I say, I go

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through a little bit of the painand the torture.
I mean, I've done less this yearthan I've ever have in the past.
But like I do get a kick out of it sometimes when I'm like,
okay, no ones watching this. So let me watch it like I will
do that. I will do.
That. You're more well-rounded.
No, I'm a better person for it. OK.
We are better people for having watched I'm Sorry I Love You

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from 2004. That is the drama we are going
to be covering today. It is a throwback drama, Lola.
You have an entire series. You haven't done it in a while,
but you have the throwback dramaseries.
Yes, throwing it back with Lola,that is my one of my I really
honed on last year last season on my podcast, but I haven't

(05:03):
really done as many this this season.
It's hopefully for the the second-half of the year we might
have a lot more coming up. So this was a nice jump start I
think for me to get back. Back into the groove, yeah.
Get back into the groove, throwing it back to these old
ones. And when you said this one, you
actually messaged me about this.I was like, how dare Steve, How
dare you bring me along for thisagain?

(05:24):
I can't believe you've done that.
Literally. I was like, who's going to do
this? Who's who?
Would be the first, yeah. Who would possibly.
And you thought of me immediately.
I'm sure I was going to. Do you knew it?
You knew I would. You knew I would.
You were right. I would.
I would put myself back through this for you.
I would. I was like, I think Lola is
down. She's she's brave.

(05:46):
She's a brave soldier, and she would be willing to revisit
this. And I'm pretty sure that you had
watched it before. I was telling you before.
It'd been about 10 years since Ihad seen it the first time.
And so, so I had largely forgotten a lot of stuff, like a
lot of the nitty gritty and, andwhen I was watching, I was like
in deep in deep. I was like, Oh my God.

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OK, so we are going to do non spoiler and spoiler section for
The Cave drama. I'm sorry I love you.
I'll start us off with the MDL synopsis which reads TA Mujiyuk

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was adopted by an Australian family but was abused and left
homeless at an early age. One day, he comes across some
Lunte, the coordinator for Tegyun, a famous singer in Korea
whom she is secretly in love with.
Her faithful encounter with Mujiyuk ends up affecting not
only her life but that of her precious Yoon as well.
OK, because of an accident the way these are like written

(07:37):
sometimes. I the best, they're the best.
Get mad at this. Because of an accident involving
his ex-girlfriend, Mujio is leftwith three months to live.
This leads to him heading back to Korea in search of his
biological mother. The discoveries he makes change
his heart from longing to revenge.
Even with all this darkness surrounding him, he finds an

(07:59):
unexpected source of happiness with someone he did not expect
to love. I'll give you 2 guesses.
Who it is OK. This drama aired from November
to December 2004. This is 21 years old, OK.
And I didn't say this when you were saying it's been about two

(08:21):
years for you. I realize it's been closer to
about 15, almost 20 years for me.
And I was like, wait a minute, it hasn't been two years.
I think I forget what year I've been.
Literally the same because I'll be like, I watched that like the
other day and the other day. No, you did two weeks ago or 15
years ago. Or 15 years ago.
I feel that way all the time. I this one definitely.

(08:43):
I felt the distance though with this one.
I totally felt that it had been almost 20 years since I've seen
this one. Yeah, absolutely.
I felt the distance as well. I definitely needed the rewatch
on this one. I'll take us back to EU 2004.
I love to do these little time and place for these throwback
episodes. So the single released by usher

(09:04):
featuring Lil John and Ludacris was released.
Janet Jacksons wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl
hashtime show. That was.
What? OK, OK.
Mark Zuckerberg launched Facebook from his Harvard dorm,
began. In two, 204 was a year man.

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At the 76th Academy Awards, the Lord of the Rings Return of the
King swept the Oscars. Oh cool.
And these are the movies that were released in 2004.
Obviously, this list is not exhaustive.
Mean Girls 13 going on 30 The best.
The Notebook, The best 51st dates, I love A Cinderella
Story, White Chicks, Kill Bill Volume 2 of The Incredibles, and

(09:49):
Sam Raimi's Spider Man 2, which is arguably the best one of that
trilogy. So there you have it.
That's a snapshot of 2004. This show is 16 episodes long.
It's directed by EE Hyung Min. This director is iconic.
OK? He started out with Winter

(10:11):
Sonata from 2002. I see you like already making
faces already like Oh my God youdid you do a winter Sonata
episode or? Was that somebody else?
So what I I think it was Nas didthat yes.
I want to say yeah, I went to Winter Sonata, but I did do
Autumn in my heart with Nas thatsame that's right same year with

(10:33):
her. That was a rewatch.
Autumn in my heart was a was a time but.
Yeah, The Four Seasons. The Four Seasons.
The Four Seasons shows we covered Autumn in My Heart a
couple of years ago, I think I think it was a couple of years
ago, but yeah, that you can scroll back on your podcast feed
and listen to that one. But that's part of that series.
It's an unofficial like title for that series of shows that

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came out in the early aughts. This director's done Bad Guy,
Orange Mumlod, My Horrible Boss,Strong Girl, Bong Soon from
2017, which there is an episode on as well, Chocolate From Now
On, Showtime, and most recently,Miss Night and Day.
So that's this director. It was written by EE Kyungi.

(11:15):
She has written a bunch of stuff, but she is more of like
the old guard, kind of a screenwriter from yesteryear.
She's done shows like a Love to Kill from O56, Love Stories,
Sangu, Let's Go to School, Pure Heart.
But the ones that I like to point out are The Innocent Man
from 2012 and you like. Yes, Oh my God, that was that

(11:40):
was a time. That was a time.
That was a time. That's Song Junkie and Oh my
God, what's her name? I'm blanking too.
I'm. Blanking too.
But anyway, that's a really goodshow.
Also, like super dramatic. So dramatic.
Oh, the so dramatic. Yeah, so dramatic,

(12:00):
uncontrollably fond, she wrote from 2016.
I feel like that's a close cousin.
I'm sorry, I love you. Yeah, I can totally see that.
Totally. She also wrote chocolate, so her
and the director got together again and teamed up because she
wrote chocolate and he directed chocolate.
So this show stars the icon thatis Ho Chi sub.

(12:25):
He plays Cham Yok. He's been in about 12 movies
including rough Cut from O8 which really did a lot for his
career. So if he's revenge, always.
Always. Do you love it?
Always. Pay attention to the feed y'all,
because you might see always coming up soon.
A company Man, Battleship Island, a couple of Alien Noid

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movies most recently, and then he's done 22 TV shows.
The early aughts were when he was really cooking, like
Memories of Bali, which you havean episode on.
Oh yes? Oh girl, I don't know how you
got through that one. To be honest, that rewatch, it
was good. It was good.
I'm not going to lie, I had AI, had a blast.

(13:09):
You had a time and I. Know.
I don't know how, I don't know. How you did that, I don't know
how I'll tell the quick story ofmy memories of Bali experience
which just makes 2 sentences. Miguel, who was most recently on
the move to have. An episode said.
Hey, you got to watch something happen in Bali, which is the
alternate title for Memories of Bali.

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He's like, it's so good, you're going to love it.
I said OK, bet I watch it and I my flabbers were gassed it like
I was. So I was completely in shock.
And shock and awe. Speechless.
What is this? What is this?
What? Is it?
Yes, so I went back to him and Iwas like you're not allowed to

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give me K drama recommendations.Don't do it.
Ever get. Ever get?
Did not warn me at all. You need a warning.
You need a warning that needs tocome with.
Many. You got to have a warning.
You got to have a warning. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. So that's that one.
I don't even want to call it tragic.
It's it's. Downright scary.
It's sad. It's sad.

(14:15):
Yeah. The stuff they put, the stuff
that they put those characters through back in the early 2000s,
No, is mind blowing. Yeah.
I mean this drama is one of the other examples.
Of that, I'm shocked that Memories of Bali came out in 04
the same year. I'm sorry.
I love you. He was in the.
He was in. What was he on He?
Was in the mood. He's like I am ready for it.
He's like, I don't I think he that was actually smart.

(14:37):
He probably was like, I'm going to just stay in this kind of
like detached, stressed, you know, sad, depressed, you know,
mood all year long and just takeall the roles that are going to
need that and just going to channel it all into these roles
because. That I am the Melodrama king.
I am. You cannot beat.
Yes, Yes. You cannot see me.
You cannot see me. I love that.

(14:59):
This is my throne anyway, so memories of volley and I'm sorry
I love you in the same year Cainand Abel from online one of my I
love Cain and Abel. Cain and Abel.
I mean just originally a great Bible story.
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
And then when you did that, whenthey did that in 2009, I was

(15:19):
like, get out of here, get out of here, out of here.
It's so good, so good. Unassailable.
Then he did Master's Son in 2013, which is a Hong Sisters
drama. One of the only ones that I
would dare to recommend. I like it.
I liked it. I did like it.
I did. Oh my Venus in 2015, My

(15:40):
secretarias 2018 Doctor, lawyer,mercy for none.
Most recently in 2025, which is I think a lot of people are
discovering. Soji sub.
For the first time, mercy for none.
That's when they discover him, because mercy for none.
You got thoughts? You got thoughts?
Yeah, I had a little bit of thought.

(16:00):
I yeah, my latest episode, my latest rambles in musings.
I kind of went in on my thoughts.
So and verse 49, I was disappointed.
I was disappointed. What I'm hearing, OK, this is
like unofficial and it's a little tangent, but what I'm
hearing is that it doesn't have a lot of pathos.
It has nothing, yeah. It's empty.
Yeah. It's so lifeless.
It's like, really, guys? I know all this action with

(16:23):
nothing else to support. It and like compared to some of
the dramas that he's mentioned. And that he's in, he can give
you, He can give it to you if you're not allowing him to give.
It to you though. Yeah, you're like wasted.
Wasted for this town. I mean, the cast was stand out.
Everybody in there. I was like gold, gold, gold,

(16:43):
gold all around. But they didn't use any of them.
Didn't use any. Of them OK OK so his code sorry
no it's fine we'll be here all day This is what's fun but
anyway his Co star is in SU zhong she plays or Lim SU zhong
she plays song in che and she's been in about 18 movies she's
really more of a movie star including finding Mr. destiny

(17:07):
from 2018 I'm a Cyborg but that's OK from O6 with rain rain
she's been in a tale of two sisters from 2003 which is.
Horror classic. A horror classic.
Exactly. And then the TV shows that she's

(17:27):
been in Melancholia from 2021. Search www.which there's an
entire episode review you can scroll back on to listen to.
And of course, Chicago typewriter from 2017.
So that's just three of the seven.
And then we're reviewing 1/4. So you can see that she's not
really been not much. Yeah, not really AK drama lady,

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but she is well known. We have some supporting cast.
I'll just mention one which is Jung Kimbo plays Chei Yun and
he's been in a ton of things. He's a well known face.
And Speaking of SNSD, he's been dating.
What's her face for like? Too young.
I don't know how too young for, I mean, maybe 20 years, maybe 20

(18:09):
years. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, they're not married.
We know that. But yeah, they've been together
for a long time. Exactly.
He's been in most recently CrashCourse and Romance in 2023,
Hospital Playlist seasons one and two, Prison Playbook, which
there's an episode on. Oh, there's also a Hospital
Playlist episode for season 1 ofHospital Playlist if you want to

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listen to that. Missing 9 from 2017.
I bring it up because that's like one of the worst K dramas
that I've seen. Oh.
God. Just don't like, I don't like
missing 9. I would love to hear somebody
out there watch missing 9 and we're like I I loved it.
Beating again from 2015, undergoes a heart transplant
surgery and his personality changes freaking lot.

(18:55):
One of my faves when I tell you yes Oh my gosh, I love that.
I don't know in a way I try not I the.
Summer scent, it's like paid offin dividends.
Yes, because all of these other dramas just keep copying.
Keep using it, but they did a great job.
They did a great. Job with that's a cute head, a
lighter take much lighter, take much lighter and then heartless

(19:15):
City from 2013. Come on now of all.
Time man, I'm one of my absolutefavorite action Love it.
So that's I'm not going to say anybody else from the cast.
It's not a huge cast, but I justwant to get to the meat of this.
Lola, what do you think? I'm sorry, I love you.

(19:38):
How did this rewatch hit you? I'm going to be honest, I I
wasn't as an older person, I waslike as I've gotten older and I
started re watching some of these older K dramas, I just I
pick up on so many other things these times these days and I had
that moment for sure watching this.

(19:58):
I was like the male our male leads were they were they were
interesting. They.
Covered my mouth, I know. Like.
I don't know. I mean, I do know I wrote
explicitly of like my thoughts on them, but I'm just like, just
saying it off the front. I was very not.
I was not, I want to say annoyed.
Yeah, I was annoyed. I was annoyed with our male

(20:19):
leads, so much so that it made it hard to like really root for
them or kind of support them or feel for them, even though
they're going through a lot. But it's just like, you too.
You too. I know it's tough.
Did you have any other thoughts?No, no, that's.
No, that's it. And I have, I mean, other

(20:40):
thoughts in that I didn't enjoy it as much as I might have in
the past. I will say that I will just kind
of lead with that. I didn't enjoy it as much as I
did maybe have done in the past.I completely agree.
I don't ever remember. Absolutely.
Loving, loving. Exactly.
OK. Absolutely.
I remember watching it and beinglike, well, that was something,
you know what I'm saying? Like.

(21:01):
That. Was an experience, but I and I
never I didn't hate it. I just kind of took it in stride
and moved forward with my life with the knowledge, armed with
the knowledge of 2000 fours. I'm sorry.
I love you exactly. You know, it's kind of
foundational. It's as AK drama.
Yep, and super iconic. On the rewatch, I thought, oh,

(21:22):
I'm gonna love this show. And I will say the first eight
episodes I breezed through. It was super easy to watch for
me the last half of the show. It was.
Rough it. Was rough.
It was very rough. Very rough.
Yep. Yeah, there was something about
the wallowing nature of the showand the fact that there is so

(21:46):
much, and this is very, I guess Korean of it.
We, I guess we don't get so muchof this anymore of characters
just going to see another character with so much urgency
and so much to say. And then they get to their
destination. They finally see this person in
their content to just like look at each.
Other don't say anything. They don't say anything.

(22:07):
Yeah. They just kind of.
They don't vent their emotions. They don't really communicate.
It's all left unsaid. And then they leave after all
this effort to get to them. And over and over again.
Rinse and repeat. Yep, the whole way through.
The whole way through the whole.Way through and it's just, Oh my
God, it was so painful. It was.

(22:28):
Painful. I completely I completely agree
with that and I, I think that from the very beginning, I know
you said like your first eight episodes, you breathe through.
I think I had a hard time from episode 1.
I'm good for the job. And it was those our our leads 2
Those two male leads for me werejust big babies.
And I'm sorry to. Say it like.

(22:49):
That but the whole theme, like the crux of this story.
And I'm like, again, hindsight's2020, like me watching this now,
as you know, I was, I'm so much older than I was when I watched
this the first time. Me too, you know.
Like so. Much older.
So I'm just like, they were the way that they kind of describe
these two male leads. They were nothing but these baby

(23:09):
birds that were constantly looking for this mothering and
it was so annoying to be honest,because it was like woe is me.
Where is my mommy? There was something very
childish and and boyish to them and immature about them to the
point where it was like the women were taking the brunt of
it, right? Like they had to be.
They had to suffer through. They had to suffer through.

(23:30):
They were the ones, you know, pulling themselves up by their
boot traps and and pushing through while these two got to
be, you know, woe is me, I'm thevictim.
Look at look at me, look at me. And it was like, I'm annoyed
like from I. Was annoyed to be.
Honest, I just I have this confused face on you guys can't

(23:50):
see it, but I'm just wondering to what end like you know, to
what? End exactly that's.
It and that is the crux of a lotof these older K dramas that are
melodramas I. Want to let's say Yeah, let's
say mellow. Is that there is so much pain
that feels like they're just flopping on the ground.

(24:13):
It is an extended tantrum. They're less what?
They're wailing, they're kickingtheir feet, they're yelling at
the sky. They're shaking the angry fist
towards the sky. Yes, like, I mean, even like in
this one there's and we'll talk about it like the prayers, you
know, You know what I mean. The prayers.
You're the most blasphemous things I've ever seen.

(24:34):
Yeah. It's like, how dare like looking
up and being like, you know what, God, if you do this for
me, I will do this. You know it was, I mean that.
Guy trying to make deals with God.
Making. Deals with God, yeah, that's how
you know, and it's like they're kicking.
You're throwing a tantrum. Yeah, and you're throwing a
tantrum. Yeah, that's exactly what I I
felt was throughout. I felt this was an incredibly

(24:55):
unfair, fair portrayal of motherhood.
It was thank you. This was like the way that they
presented them as these, like that.
Condemning of the mother. I hate it and hate it.
There's so much nuance there that I think the show ignores.
Hmm. Or tries to address too late

(25:18):
maybe? Yeah, they missed it.
Yeah, Played like you could have.
You could have done it and. Right.
Do it right. Yeah.
And here's that positive that I think the show is of it of a
time of an era. And there is not a lot of
therapizing. I love that.
What's happening? Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying? No one's like you had a
traumatic experience. So This is why you're doing

(25:41):
this, and This is why you shouldfeel this way.
Why are you lashing out? Yes.
You know, none of this therapy language.
None of it. None of it.
You're depressed. No.
You just no. No.
You just watch them struggle. You're.
Just watching them go through. Yeah, one of the hideous things

(26:01):
that could possibly happen to people, that could possibly
happen to somebody, and they aremaking the wrong choice after
the wrong choice, after the wrong choice.
No one. There's no person that's
speaking common sense or life into these people at all.
There's no voice of reason at all in the show.

(26:21):
That is very. And that is of a.
Time of that, Time of that. Time.
If this was done today, you would have.
Somebody, some character in. There one character who's like.
The voice of reason. Voice of reason, who's basically
the audience proxy, who's like, why are you doing this?
Why are you acting this way? Get up.

(26:43):
You know. Get up.
Yes. There is none of that in the
show. Everybody sucks.
Everybody does, everybody sucks.And I have to say, I've
mentioned this with, I think what happened in Bali when I
went back to that drama. I like that because it does put
more weight on the audience and I can appreciate that.
As in, you're not telling me, you're showing me exactly.

(27:04):
I have to do the work as the audience figuring out what is
going on. Why are these characters doing
the things that they're doing, looking at things that the
character do and the story and be like, oh, they're doing this
because of this, I get to do that.
No character outside character is telling me This is why
they're doing this right. I like it.
So that is one of the things I can.
There's not a lot of hand holding, not 0, all for the

(27:28):
audience, you're just thrown in.Get it.
Yeah, get ready. Get ready.
Get ready. And if you don't like it, too
damn ass. Yeah, get out.
Yep, Yep. And that is a lot of these older
K dramas, especially the melodramas.
I would say that was their MO. I see.
It's just pain after pain. These people are just here to

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hurt. Just hurt.
Just hurt. That's all they're here for.
And if there's any positive to it is that they found some
sliver of happiness and hope, which is what the MDL synopsis
is getting at, is that, you know, the male lead and the
female lead do, I guess, fall inlove.
Did they fall in love? I don't know.

(28:10):
They said I love you. They said I.
Love you a lot. A lot.
In the very last five minutes ofthis.
But yeah, they did, I guess. It's surprising and I'm sure
that if someone who started watching K dramas in the last
five years, you know, during thepandemic basically were to watch
this show. Yes.
I would love to hear their thoughts.

(28:30):
I know. Because this is going to hit
themselves. Yes.
Oh, totally, totally. It's.
Going to hit them so sideways. I was looking at some of the
movies that came out during thistime in Korea.
A moment to remember. A moment to remember Yes, Yes
came out at the same time. Came out this this year I think.

(28:50):
Same. Year, OK.
OK. 3 Iron Have you seen that movie?
3. Iron 3 Iron.
Oh my gosh. I have a story to say, not a
story, but like one of my memories of going through, going
into Blockbuster. I don't know, people remember
Blockbuster. That's telling my age a little
bit, like seeing that cover and being like, yes, I want to watch

(29:12):
this. Mind you, I was young.
I was like, I should not have been watching 3 Iron.
But yes, Oh, I remember 3 Iron. That was the time.
That came out this year, same year.
So if you look at some of the media that was in the early
aughts, the coming out of Korea,it makes a lot of sense why the

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K dramas were so fucked. They were messed up because
everybody was fun. Everybody was.
It was bad. It was rough.
It was a hard time. Yeah, absolutely. 3 iron.
I can't believe you. I can't believe three.
I haven't thought about 3 iron in so long.
Oh, that's wild. My little Bride, do you remember
that movie? Yes, the girlies would freak if

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they watch that movie. That's also 2004.
This was a year. This was a year, Lola.
I didn't even connect all of that.
I didn't even think to think about what movies came out in
Korea during that time. Yeah, those man.
I mean, I'm still stuck on 3 iron though.
Like 3 iron. Is a That's a film.

(30:17):
That's not a movie. That's a film.
It's. A film.
It is a film. I think that's a great way of
following it. It's a film for sure, guys.
I can't believe it's only an hour and a half too.
It's an hour and 28 minutes long.
I don't know. How some of those scenes, some
of the some of those scenes feltlike an hour and a half by
themselves. So I can't believe the movie was
only an hour and a half. I know that's crazy.

(30:37):
OK, but I, I just, I say all this because there was something
in the water. In 2004.
In 2004, in the early aughts in this era, and you know, we've
covered some of the other shows like we mentioned Winter Sonata,
we mentioned Autumn. In my heart, I think I did.
I guested on NASA spoon Diaries we covered.

(31:00):
Somerset. Somerset.
Oh, I I did. Somerset too, I did.
Somerset. So and then you covered
Somerset? I did on your podcast.
I. Did so last year or the year
before, I can't remember. A lot of us creators were going
back and dipping into that earlyodds well and doing a couple
things here and there, reviewingthings and when you put it all.
Together. If you put it all together, it

(31:22):
connects. All of it connects.
It all of it connects OK. I think Korea, the populace was
going through it. They needed these melodramas.
They did well, I actually think well, am I what happens in Bali
episode? I did talk about extensively
that back in that time, like there, there was this kind of
push. They used to say where like I

(31:45):
want to say like nihilism almostwhere people were feeling like
there was just not the the way that the world was going.
There was not much to look forward to in the world.
And so the use of melodrama during that time was strategic.
It was this way for people to experience these outside
horrible situations so they cannot look at their own inside

(32:06):
horrible. Situations.
Exactly. And that was a big push during
that early. 2000. I I did see that in a couple of
articles when I was reading about what happened in Bali.
Because what happened did you think?
This did. You think this is bad Let's just
I mean I don't know, but what happened to volley bad?
I don't know that one sent shivers down my spine rewatching

(32:27):
it. I'm going to be honest, it was a
totally different experience watching that one again and then
watching this one. I'm sorry, I love you.
I don't know what it was. I think it was the the babies in
this one. It's the babies.
Yes, it's the babies. I'll, I'll just say for people
that don't know what nihilism is, let's say this is the AI
overview of Google. It says a philosophical position
that argues that life is withoutinherent meaning, purpose or

(32:49):
value. This is a really depressing view
of life. And I think that people who have
this ish, you know, nihilistic viewpoint of life tend to find a
lot of meaning in these stories.They tend to enjoy painful
stories because it makes them feel.
Better it makes them feel about their.

(33:11):
Painful. Life.
Exactly. They're all painful situations.
Because it can't be as bad as this.
This exactly. And also that ties into in this
drama, how there's like this, I think I want to say not counter,
but like almost a counter to like them bringing up God a lot
and and the praying and things like that.
For them to position that in a story where it's just like all

(33:31):
bad, there's no good there. Everything's bad, everyone's
going through it. But then to also have them try
to hold on to something outside of them.
Yeah, a little bit of faith. I thought that was interesting
that they also were adding that in there as well.
But it is AF to me, like a counter to this thought, like

(33:51):
there is no hope. What did you think of acting?
I actually thought the acting was pretty good.
I mean, I was kind of, I was quite impressed as always with
what's Our mom? E Hey, Young.
E Hey Young. I absolutely adore her and I
love her in melodrama. That's one of my favorite ways
to watch her, so I really enjoyed her in this.

(34:13):
She's the evil mom in Boys Over Flowers.
Yes, yes. I always enjoy her.
I just always enjoy her. So I think that was really good.
I'm Sue Jung. I enjoy her as well.
But for some reason, again, I think with this character, it
was, I mean, she, she did good. She, I mean, she did good.
It was fine. But I wasn't that impressed with

(34:33):
the character. So it felt a little flat at
times for me, which I don't agree completely blamed with her
and her acting, but more like the character itself.
Do you? So of course.
What's, what are we, what are wegoing to say?
He did bad? Yeah.
Absolutely not. Absolutely.
I was blown away. I mean, there were first, first
the end, then it got really rough for him.
I was just like, oh, I was in pain watching him.

(34:56):
I was in actual pain. I get empathy pains, and I was
literally like, I'm in pain watching you.
I have to Fast forward some of those moments because it was
that rough for me watching him. So I mean, great acting.
Yeah, but it was a little hard. It was a little hard watching.
So I would say acting was great.Oh, you know who really I mean.
I'm going to say Junk Ho. Absolutely.
One of my absolute favorite actors of all time.

(35:18):
I'm Kunk Kunky. I'm sorry, not Jung Ho.
I absolutely loved him in this despite his character still
being one that I did not like Baby but towards the end loved
his performance. I was really moved by his
performance, especially that final conversation he has with
Milk at the end in the in the dark of that, you know, little

(35:40):
room. I loved his performance there.
I was like I was crying, you know, like so performances were
great that I had to say when I was re watching this, I was
like, you can't take you can't even you can't take that from
older cave dramas ever. The performance will always be
there. OK, They were killing it 100.
Percent, 100%. Let's talk about the fashion and

(36:01):
the incessant singing from Fei Yun, because the singing is
what's not good. Sunk it, sunk the battleship.
Because I hate singing in K drama.
Singing in media. But also bad singing.
And then and on top of it, bad. Singing in one of my first notes
in episode 1, I said AK pop singer or I was like a singer

(36:23):
idol singer that Can't Sing. Question mark.
Question mark. This is a lot of suspension of
disbelief here. A lot.
If you're telling me he is not only a bad singer, a nepple
baby. Or he's a nepple.
Baby, yes, but also he sucks. He can't, he Can't Sing.
He's a bad singer, but he's the number one singer in Korea.

(36:44):
I was like #1 get out, get out. So bad.
It's so bad. Every time he played the piano
and sang and like everything wasacapella, I was like, oh.
My God, you were like, no, thankyou.
You were like horrible thanks. No, but no thanks.
No thanks. No thanks, I'm good.
You guys could I want to return this?
Can I can? I get a return.
Can I get a refund please so. That was bothersome, The fashion

(37:10):
I I wasn't mad about the fashion, I was mad about one
item. Wait, what 1?
Item the hat. The hat.
The hat. Throw it in a volcano.
Throw it in a volcano. I hate it.
It was so funny because that's one of the things I remember
most about this show. It was like, because I was like,
that's the thing that's meme themost like the the dramatic pull
down that he would do in the beginning with that hat.

(37:32):
Like he would cover his face when he was he was getting
emotional and he would just liketake the hat and cover the side
of his face. So you could see how that was
the I was like, this is what youthey still make fun of that.
See, I'm literally. Crying.
I'm literally crying. So funny, isn't it?
It was. Hysterical.
It's hysterical. So yeah, the hat, get it out of
here. But the fashion actually really
like, I actually really like theUnche.

(37:54):
Like her style, her fashion. I loved it.
I'm like her Uggs or her ratty Uggs.
I was like, I'm loving the rattyUggs actually.
Yeah, there was something about I I wasn't mad at the fashion.
I was mad at the one newsboy cabbie hat that so bad they put
on Toji sub and then he was so attached to.

(38:14):
So attached so much attached to that when he when he was
changing characters. Oh, no, OK, sorry.
Because there's the Superman to Clark Kent change that happened
in a later episode. Like I had to stop the.
Show. I had to.

(38:36):
I was like no stop. It I'm crying now.
Stop this. I.
Lost it. I lost.
The best thing, I was like, you know what standing over this guy
is? Like so funny and I don't know,
do you think it was meant to be funny?
I I don't think I don't. Think so.
I think it would be really dramatic and I could not help

(38:58):
like, like it was so cringy. It was so cringy, but it was it
was just like genius. I'm so proud, so glad they did
it. They were like, I'm gonna
actually like have him do like aClark hit, like Superman change.
Like I'm gonna take off my glasses.
And now I am no. Longer.
I am muhil. I am the driver.

(39:19):
I am I am the manager of Muhuk. I no longer.
I no longer have a fake mustacheand glasses on.
Oh my. I have.
I have a cowboy now, so no, I amyou like even genius.
My favorite part was my favorite, favorite part of that
scene was she's the second female lead is in the elevator
with him and he's got his get upon.

(39:39):
He's that's the Superman. We'll just say he's the Superman
character at this point. When he takes off the fake
pencil mustache, she doesn't react.
And I was like, if I was her andthis man just rips off, he's
little, that's when I would loseit.
That is when I would freak out. The pistol mustache that she had

(40:01):
been kissing he she. Had been kissing up on that.
Thing she had been kissing on itand I'm like you didn't know
that was shifting that was shifting in the middle of the
kiss and then to like I said youhe pulled it off and you said
that wasn't enough for her she stayed.
Still still it was when when he put on the cap on.
The. Cap.
Then she was like. Like it was just genius.

(40:25):
Or like you don't make it like this.
They don't make dramas like thisanymore.
I miss it. I miss it.
I miss it. You can laugh.
Where's the? Camp get to cry.
Where's the camp? Where is the camp, guys?
And we were in it, too. I mean, back then, they were in
it. They was like, they were, yeah,
I was with her. They were like that wasn't.
That was you, the whole. Time no, they knew that the the

(40:49):
double identity but they I mean that people have to be caught up
yes, I do yeah every single thing that was happening in the
show anyway, we're getting into the weeds on this sorry.
What I'll say is that this show did incredibly freaking well.
As I said, this show is a hit. It's a success.
Iconic. Iconic and it was such a success

(41:11):
that it's had multiple remakes done, a Turkish, a Chinese, a
Thai remake and a Japanese remake.
They are all some some translation of I'm sorry I love
you. The Japanese remake is Gomen
Ashteru. The ratings for this show
incredibly high from day one. Episode one had a 16% rating.

(41:35):
That means 16%. The population was watching, was
watching. This would blow everybody away
if today, if 16% of Korea was watching a single K drama today
at the same time, at the same time, we would not hear the end
of it. This would be the drama of the
year. OK, And it only got higher at

(41:57):
the end of the show. The final episode had a 29%
rating. Wow.
Isn't that crazy? It's mind blowing, It's mind
blowing and but it also just explains like if you're watching
something in Korea today, you'regoing to get references to this
drama. To this day, like I watch K
variety all the time. I still hear them making jokes

(42:20):
about this drama or like memeingit or like using the music, the
the the the famous OST. Like I still hear that in dramas
like like just to make poke fun of mellow, like you'll hear it
all the time. So it's like it's iconic.
That's how you know, everybody gets the references.
When you think about how many people are watching at that
time, it explains why even now, to this day, they can still

(42:42):
refer to it. And people in Korea will still
be like, oh, yeah, they're talking.
They're. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
I love you. Yeah, they're.
Poking on my absolutely. I love you.
I get it. It was big.
It was. Huge.
Can't understate that. And at this point I think I
don't want we don't want to spoil anything else.
We already spoiled this double identity.
Thing that happened to the. Show Lola, what would you rate

(43:03):
the show out of five soldier bottles?
You know, this is always the hardest thing for me because I
always have to take myself out of it sometimes because I, if I
for me, my watching like my actual experience, I would say
it was probably a three for me. But I think I appreciate it so
much about it because I'm just like missing the ways of

(43:24):
yesteryear. And so I want to say I want to
give it a four for that reason. There was so much, there's so
much iconic distance in it. And I had a good time with some
of the stuff that was like, thisisn't meant to be funny, but I'm
actually laughing. Unintentional comedy.
Yeah, I still had a good time with some of the stuff.
So I would say A4 on the highestend, but my pure enjoyment, it
was a three. I would say 3.

(43:45):
OK, so 3 or 4? I would say 3, but I want to say
4 for people to like to convincethem that still it's worth
checking out kind of thing. But OK, you can give half
points. Too.
I'll do three. Yeah.
So let's do 3 1/2 then. All right, 3.
And a half. I will say my score is also a
three and a. Half because.

(44:05):
There was a lot of iconic pointsin the show that I forgot about,
like when they when she finally writes I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I
love you. I was like, oh God.
I'll try. There it is there it is.
The name of the show in the show.
I love that. It's so great on different
levels and it is an emotional roller coaster.

(44:26):
It does have a lot of craziness in it.
Like bar none, it's crazy. And some of the things that I
think other K dramas do down theline, copy from this era.
Absolutely copy from this era ofK dramas.
Like at one point she starts to like lose her grip on reality
and she starts seeing him everything.

(44:47):
She starts hallucinating things every you throw a Rock You hit a
cage drama that has done this. Exact.
Thing absolutely, where they're envisioning them in front,
malely, femalely envisioning each other next to them in front
of each other on the street, youname it.
And I'm like, that's it's here. That's where it's from.
There it is. Yeah, yeah.

(45:08):
Incredible show, incredible performances.
The performances. I don't care that it's a low
budget. Like I don't give a shit.
I know, but it looks like it's from 2004.
Doesn't faze me. I didn't, I didn't even notice
it. I'm going to be honest, which
the only thing that made me notice it was the music.
Well, that's what made me realize like, wait a second,

(45:28):
we're in 2004. The some of the, you know,
Western music that was popping up this.
Is not exactly. This is why when we say like K
dramas have changed so much, there's so much catered to the
western audience this type of OST.
It's not you would never find this in AK drama nowadays at all

(45:49):
at all. And that's what we miss is like,
this is raw. It's like untouched.
I I love that it's untouched. Yeah, it is.
It is. And even untouched, it you go
back to it, you can't help but be like, this is there is so
much value in this. There's so much that I can take
from this and appreciate even ifI don't like the story on its

(46:11):
base. Like there are still even.
If I'm like what the hell? What is this?
I don't like this story at all, but there is so much more that I
I still took from it. I was like, this is still making
me a appreciate these dramas from this time.
Like it did not make me think This is why I don't watch these
old gay dramas, right? Like I didn't have that reaction
to it. I was like, actually, which one

(46:31):
do I need to go back and watch? Now exactly.
Exactly. Like.
I think so too. I agree completely.
So 3 1/2 for me, 3 1/2 for you. You're definitely simpatico on
this. You're definitely having too
much fun. Why we like to do this?
This is why. This is why you do.
This, but we're gonna get into the spoiler section.
What exactly happened to these people in this show right after

(46:56):
this? Excuse me?
You. Know I.
Have no. Sorry.
What? All right, we're on the other
side of spoilers, so we are going to spoil what happens and
I'm Sorry I Love You, which is a21 year old drama.

(47:19):
So if you haven't watched it or if you're really intrigued by
it, I would suggest stopping nowand coming back later.
Watch it on your own. It is 16 episodes on Vicki,
which is where we watched it. All right, we have to talk about
this meet queue because they endup meeting in Australia, which
is a big, big deal, right, To have the first episode happened

(47:42):
in Melbourne, Australia. And it was actually shot there.
Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that I was
gonna do this. This was very unintentional, but
this is the third drama in a rowabout an adoption.
Story that you've watched. Yeah, so I did move to heaven.
Yeah, our beloved summer. He's our beloved.
Summer. And now I did.
I'm sorry. I love you so.

(48:04):
I really didn't intend for that to happen.
But here we are. Here we are.
Yeah, the the Overseas AdoptionsI Hate Korea segment that they
intro the whole share with. Yeah, it's very interesting to
me. I feel like they're definitely
trying to say something about that.
The producers and editors shown in the show are making fun of

(48:29):
Soji sub's Korean and saying that he doesn't fit the concept
of the show that they are creating because they have all
this documentary footage. And he is shown saying his mom
must have had a good reason for giving him up for adoption.
Maybe she couldn't afford milk and did it so that he'd have a
better life. And if he ever reunites with her

(48:49):
again, he wants to give her a life of luxury, telling her to
wait just like five years and five years.
I'm going to have enough money to go back to Korea and we can
reunite. I can give you a good life
already, MC. Fucking heartbreaking, I know.
Yeah, it was. It was sad.
It was sad 'cause you're right. In comparison to the other
footage of the other I guess. Who were like fuck Korea I hate

(49:13):
Korea. Yeah.
Fuck my mom, I can't. Wish this like.
She abandoned. Yeah.
And he has this completely different perspective.
And it's really, yeah, it's really heartbreaking because.
And I mean, this is a part of my, like, I was big on picking
up the theme and some of the motifs going on in the
mothering. And it started in that first
kind of segment because he, his Korean that he has learned has

(49:36):
been from this girl that he's dating at the time, his
girlfriend who has taught him Korean.
And it's obviously, you know, not the best because, you know,
they're in Australia and it's not his, I guess, first
language. But I thought it was interesting
that they already positioned this idea of mother as in
homeland motherland also him wanting searching for his

(49:58):
mother, but also having sympathyfor his mother.
So as much as you know, they're like this isn't fit our what we
want for our documentary. We want people to be hating on
Korea, these adoptees to be hating on Korea.
You know, he's still looking forhis mother.
He's and he's looking for his motherland at the end of it all.
And I really actually, I like that they set that up from the
beginning. It gives you a good perspective

(50:19):
of what we're going to see because the.
K drama of it is that there's going to be a 180 in his.
Perspective of his love for Korea and his mother.
Yes, exactly. You get the five year time jump
and then we do the meet queue, which is he is scamming women,
luring them into his. Car.

(50:40):
Car, Yes. Due to like language and culture
familiarity. He's like, oh, are you Japanese?
And then says a few words in Japanese and they get in his
car. Oh, are you Chinese that get in
his car? It's crazy now.
He's a criminal. He's an actual criminal.
He's a literal criminal. He's and he's also homeless and
he's homeless. So he's hustling as best as he
can, as best as he can in the streets of Australia.

(51:03):
Yeah, but you can see the concept that was introduced of
like wanting that familiarity and the kinsmen being played out
and even how he scams. He scams even how he scams.
So anyway, he meets Unche who isseen helping her philandering
friend out. Philandering friend.

(51:24):
Her bestie is a serial cheater and all these things, and then
her other bestie who's the second male lead Teyun, is
obsessed with this cheating. This cheating girl, crazy girl
so. Like the second female lead is
not a good person, no, and then the second male lead is obsessed

(51:46):
with her, which doesn't. Make sense?
It's like things like Why? Why are you obsessed with?
Her why? Why are you strung out over her?
I don't get it. Yeah, yeah, but you see her, the
female lead, Unche with the second male lead.
I think there's a scene where hegrabs her and pulls into the
bathwater with him. Yes, he's taking a bath and he

(52:08):
while she was basically with herfriend, the other girl, she gets
a call from him and she comes torunning.
That is another theme about. That's a theme.
Yeah, is that she comes to running whenever these men come
a college, she comes to running.And so you have our Unche
running to his, you know, at hisbeck and call.
And when she gets there, he's ina tub, baby, in the midst of him

(52:28):
complaining and whining about the other girl not picking up
his phone call. Yeah.
And also you can see that she has some kind of feelings for
him right off the bat, that she's like having to hear him
whine and. Whine about moan about this
other girl. And she has to be there
listening to it. And then he pulls her in the tub
when he's naked, her fully clothed mind you.

(52:51):
And then even inconsiderate, inconsiderate, very
inconsiderate. And then also very
inappropriate. It flashes her completely
because they're in a working relationship.
She works for him on top of it all, she lives in his home in
the basement. She's works for him.
He I mean, he was just like, andyou're supposedly her, her best
friend and you treat her like shit.

(53:11):
Yes, off the bat, Off the bat, That's how they sit there and
he. Mocks her.
He says, Do you see me as a man?Man, Yeah, as he's like standing
naked in front of her. I'm like.
Come on dude, come on man. Come on, this is inappropriate
for work relationship. And then he serenades her.
By singing, you are so beautifulto me on the piano and I'm like.

(53:33):
Sing get this guy out quote UN quote.
Sing Sing air quotes. Because it's so bad.
Yeah. Also when, Oh my God, when they
introduced Hoji sub after the five year time jump, he's in the
car bopping to Sean Paul. Sean Paul.
Just give me the. Line just give me I was in.

(53:56):
Tears. I.
Loved it. That's what dated this drama.
Yes, the music. The music dated it.
We don't we. Don't get like Top 40.
Anymore, we can't. They can't pay dramas, they
licensing, they can't pay for it.
They can't pay for it. They get it.
Yes. It was so funny.
I was like, this is great. When there's a part in the
drama, they're like 50 seconds playing.
I don't. Like in the club?

(54:17):
I was like. The Black Eyed Peas are just.
It was great, Yeah. It's like, that's good.
I mean, and then the the $0.50 in the club is like over like
this really dramatic scene. I mean, just sometimes they, I
don't think they really we're matching up the actual yeah.

(54:40):
No, they don't know the meaning.Of this, of this song, yeah, it
wasn't magic, it wasn't matching, but OK.
Sorry, but at the same time, yousee in this episode that she
gets her face scraped because she saves the second male lead
from getting run over by the male lead on this.
They haven't even met yet, like nobody's met each other yet, but
she falls to the ground and scrapes her face and the second

(55:01):
male lead Italian is up in arms.He's.
But your face is the he's. Her face is so precious to him.
All of us, yes. And he's like bandaging her up
and they're so intimate. He's like blowing on her face
real close and so scared that it's going to scar.
Concerned about her, I think he says at one point, let them get

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the wrong idea if a scandal breaks out, we.
Can just marry. He's like, yeah, he's like, I
don't, yeah, he doesn't care. He says things like this to her,
not quote, not knowing, I guess,that she has any feelings for
him. But it's still obvious on our
end. We can see how she's reacting to
every little thing that he says and every little thing he does,
every little touch, 'cause he's very handsy with her.
He'll hug. He'll hug on her, even.

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Today, yeah, they are. Nowhere near he is with her.
Yes, he was so handsy with her. It was it was like, OK, calm
down, you know, let her go. I'm so.
Touching on her. Always touching her and she's
always like, you know, flinchingat this, 'cause she likes him
and she, she. Likes him.
She wants him to touch him. But it's never a romantic.

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Yeah, you know, in that way. Exactly.
He tucks her into bed and startssinging Love me Tender.
Tinder. Yes, again, beautifully sung.
Just. Beautifully sung, loved it.
It was so bad, it was so. Bad.
But anyways, they finally meet, so the male lead and the female
lead meet and he promptly sells her into a strip club.

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Slash human trafficking. Yeah, it's bad.
It's bad. That scene, I was like strip
club. I was like.
Wait a minute. I didn't.
Remember this at all? Exactly.
I was so I was like, this is a big moment here.
I was like there was actual like.
'Cause she's like. Body cheeks showing on the desk
where they came there. I was like, wait a minute.

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Guys, yes, can you? Drama, 2000. 4 exactly.
It's so it's so much more like rated R yeah 13 than the dramas
even today. I would say absolutely.
His buddies who are running the scam scammed her.
He didn't scam her personally, but he still scams her by
selling her off. But he feels some type of way

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because she's Korean. Yeah.
And he's Korean, So he's kind oflike, oh, OK.
Like, I don't know. He feels some type of way.
He feels sorry. He finds her luggage getting
thrown about in the streets, dismantled by his friends.
He sees her passport, and he sees who she is, her name and
everything. And he actually comes back,
circles back and rescues her from the place he sold her off

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from the place that he got her into.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they spend the night outsideon a literal cardboard box.
Because he's homeless. She even has a moment.
She's like, you don't have homeless.
She's like, you don't have a home to go back to.
Like she literally is like, guy,I was following you all day
because I thought you were gonnalike, take me somewhere safe.

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And she's like a stray dog at this.
She's a stray dog and she's like, just like hovering behind
him the whole time and he's justwalking ahead.
Of her he. Didn't say anything to her and
she's just following him like a puppy.
And then when they get to their destination, it's a cardboard
box. It was sad.
It was actually kind of sad. I was like, because I didn't
know he was homeless either to some extent because the way we

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met him, I didn't. I knew he was I.
Didn't immediately think this man doesn't have a.
Recovery. I did not think that at all.
So I was like, wait, he doesn't have a place to take her back
to. It's like this cardboard box.
But yeah. It was, it was bad.
Like it was like all kind of bad.
But like on this evening during the night, she calls out for her
mom because she's so scared shitless and she's freezing cold

(58:38):
at night. And when he hears this, he kind
of turns over and just immediately hugs her and cuddles
with her and she's like. Ah, get off of me.
I have a husband and children. That is very common in 2004
Bellow dramas where the woman isin this position, this kind of
like risque position with the Bell lead and then she

(58:58):
immediately goes to I'm married,not my husband, and it's like
that. Exactly.
In Somerset, she's that's what. I'm thinking of exactly in
Somerset, so yeah, yeah. But they, they spend the night
like cuddling for warmth and just tenderness or whatever.
And you're kind of like, OK, where the hell is this going to
go? Yeah, you will not expect what
happens next because the girlfriend that taught Soji sub

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how to speak Korean getting married to some mafioso because
she is apparently a gold digger.She just wants money.
She. Just wants money.
Love isn't enough. I can't live.
I can't eat love. I need money.
Yeah. Like that, she doesn't.
Say that she literally. Said something like that.
Yeah, and he's crestfallen but super angry at her.

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He steals the bride vows. If we can't get married, then
let's die. Together, it was Thelma Louise.
So dramatic. Yes, it's going to be a Thelma.
Louise He had them at the edge of a Cliff in the car.
He was like, I'm going to gun it.
And again, at any given point you're just like, what the fuck
is going? What is going?
On yes. He takes her back to the
wedding, though. Which was surprising to me.

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I was like, what makes him which?
Was really strange because they go through with the wedding.
Oh, he initially came in saying that if you didn't, if she
didn't make any more kimchi, kimchi talking about she's got
to make more kimchi and that comes up.
Really found a lot of meaning inthat.
It yeah, it comes back. Kimchi is.
Exclusively. Korean.

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Yeah, exclusively. And this woman that he has
lashed onto like a mother bird taught him Korea is his the
closest tie to Korea, to be honest in Australia.
And then attaching Kimtree on top of that, it just gave this.
Is that him being connected to? Korea, he's losing his.
Losing it. He was getting severed from it
again. Yeah, he was to this white man,
I mean to be. Honest, like some white dude

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that I don't even know. Like Jason, I think it was his
name. Jason today was literally Jason.
Jason was was stealing her away from him.
Literally. Yeah, yeah.
So she says. Oh, I didn't get to make any
more before I left because they were literally, I guess, living
together together right up untilthe wedding Wedding that was
suddenly thrust upon him like itwas wild behavior.
Yeah, cuz when he found out she was getting married, he was

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buying her a dress with the money he had just scammed off of
somebody. He literally was like shopping
for her, like getting ready to have this Pretty Woman moment
where the the sales clerk was like, you know, that's that's
really expensive. You can't afford that kind of
thing. Yeah.
The Pretty Woman. Yeah, the Pretty Woman.
And then he she's in there dressshopping.
Yeah. For her wedding.
Yeah. And he's like, wait.
What is that is? Going Yeah, like she, he finds

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out simultaneously that she's been cheating on him, eminently
getting married to some other. Guy and she invites him to the
wedding she. Invites him to the wedding and
that's when he steals her and like the kimchi and all that
stuff, he delivers her back. The goofiest looking assassin
with the literal forehead tattooand a black leather jacket pulls

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a gun and starts shooting. Starts shooting the groom and
the wedding party and the male lead Soji sub dives and tries to
shield the bride. My favorite thing is you see all
the bullets hitting all over, you see it hitting glassware,
you see it hitting everywhere and I'm shocked that this

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lunatic managed to get 2 headshots. 2 to sold you sub not
122. Two, and what even the fact that
he was this man, this assailant,the fact that he was just
casually drinking it, it during the wedding, mind you, he was,
he was. Outside, he was.
He was the. Road he was up the road then

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comes into the wedding is literally drinking with the
forehead tattoo with. The forehead tattoo.
And that doesn't that nobody thinks, no one, no one, no one
was concerned about this. Dude, where's the security?
This is mafia stuff. Like I was like, dude, you're
getting married, you're in the mafia.
You're like. Jason has the worst security,
worst of all time. Fire everybody.

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It was so funny. I was like, this is a joke.
Like it was. It was able to shoot.
Just shoot up the entire wedding.
So just have gets 2 bullets in the head, one is still lodged.
The doctors are saying you mightexperience personality changes.
It's an unclear lifespan. Obviously he has very little
time to live. Very little and they say like

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they would have tried to remove it, he would have died
instantly. So the bullet that was
technically like keeping him alive at this point, but of
course throughout time or overtime, it was going to
gradually, not even gradually, it was going to slowly kill him.
He's living on borrowed time. The Jason mob boss groom guy is
out to kill him because he's still on pretty good terms with

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the bride. The bride literally cut the
ex-girlfriend, wife or whatever packs a carry on for him and
tells him I booked you a flight to Korea, get the fuck out.
She also gave him lots of money.Lots of money, obscene amounts
of money. She's like, this is going to
last you a lifetime. Don't die here like a dog and go
back to Korea is I think what she tells him, which there's a

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lot there. I feel like even in that
sentence of if you're Korean, why die on foreign soil?
Foreign go back to Korea and diein Korea.
Yeah. And then with some dignity.
Yeah. And even.
Yeah. Like her calling him a dying
there, like a dog, that idea of being a lost puppy, you know, at
least if you're back in Korea, you least can say you're at

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home. You're in home, you know.
So I feel like that was interesting too, to make him
again here like this. Lost dog, lost puppy.
Yeah, yeah. We cut to we're in Korea.
This female lead is in some sortof like brand smart USA looking
place which don't even exist anymore.
Yes, like a video store, Yeah. Like a tech store and I love

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those places. So nostalgic for yes for that.
So she's there running lines in front of a camera because she
has like a low key aspiration tobe an actress.
Actress, which they never get. Never pick it up.
Never pick it up again. Never.
She's running lines and it's Romeo and Juliet.
Yep, tragedy the tragic. That should give you a clue.

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It tells us what it is it tells us and the story it tells us.
Yes, it tells you the literal end of the show right there.
Because she's Juliet reciting Romeo and Juliet.
In episode 2, he meets the twin sister.
Who is well, I guess we should probably also mention that the
minute he arrives in to Korea, he goes onto ATV show about

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Korean adoptees and it's like a show where they're like
interviewing people who are you know who are back in Korea after
being adopted and they're looking for their family.
So this is their way of getting kind of pushed to the forefront
so that if their family sees them, they can connect them with
their family. Yeah.
One of the people that are watching them is his nephew,
this little boy who is absolutely a star.

(01:05:54):
So good. Talk about amazing performances.
I love him. I love him.
Always has, always will. Yes.
Gotchi was the best. I mean, so he's like watching
this TV show because his mother is so yourself's character, twin
sister. Of course, they don't know that
yet, but he knows she's a wasn't, you know, adopted.
So he's like watching this show to see if he could ever find any

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information for his mother so that that she can be reconnected
with her family. So again, Gauchi right there
from the beginning, you're like,he is just the sweetest little
boy looking out for his mom and trying to find her family.
And so when he sees that, I think, yeah, so just some
character has this ring on this necklace that he, you know, has
since he was adopted, he sees that looks similar to what his

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mom has. And so he starts to take note,
like, this man might possibly berelated to my mom.
But yeah, that's kind of how we get to the point where he gets
connected to his twin sister. Because they have the same
necklace. And unfortunately she got hit by
a car when she was seven years old outside of the orphanage.
And now she's developmentally challenged.

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She's stuck at like a. Child's.
Age right in her head, so she's disabled.
Yes. But she has a child.
She has a little boy. Complicated.
Complicated already. And I wonder why they never tell
us. Like why?
What happened, What happened? I want to say it's almost
implied though, when they had that big yeah, that that scene

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that was really hard to watch. I mean, I was, I was like, this
is the one of the hardest parts of this drama.
I'm going to be honest, I did not like that that scene at all.
So I forgot about it. So when it came up again, I was
like, oh, I hate this. Yeah.
So I think that was kind of implied.
I think that this happens to herin the neighborhood.
She's kind of always falling victim to these thugs as they

(01:07:43):
call them. And then for her just to have a
sign, you kind of like I, I think that it's.
Heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking and you
definitely have to rub your two brain cells together to figure
it out. You have to put that together.
Guess what? What happened there?
Because they never do explicitlysay who Khalji's dad is.
Exactly. He goes to visit the mom's house

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because he figures out who his biological mom is and the female
lead, like he said, rents out the basement with her family.
The mom works as a housekeeper. The father is some sort of
driver for them. Let's talk about the dad.
Let's. Just take a minute.

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Let's just take a minute and talk about this family because.
What the fuck is that dad? He was the worst.
The worst. He was the actual villain.
He was the actual villain of thestory.
I did not realize that he was the actual villain.
Like he's the villain of the story.
Yes. Not the, not the mother.
Not the mother. Not the mother she's at.
She's a victim in this as well. Yes.
I mean, he was the worst part ofthis drama.

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The fact that he was the reason why the twins were put up for
adoption in the 1st place and then to keep it to himself the
whole time. The whole freaking time.
I was so mad at the end when that reveal happened to to
Soldiers Hub's character and MooHulk and he kind of just like
I'm sorry. That's all he says.
He's like I'm. Sorry, I would pay for this for

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the rest of my life. I'm sorry.
Like, dude, we're in episode 16.You know, I'm just, you're just
now telling me. Like The thing is that dad, even
from jump, like the early episodes, he goes to pick up the
female lead from something I can't even remember what it is,
and he asked the second male lead, Cheyun, about her.

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He's like, what does she like? What does she like to?
Do he doesn't even care about his own daughter?
And he, he says to himself, he'slike, I don't even really know
her. Yep, because he cares only about
his actress, his who he works for like he's in.
Love with her he's. Obsessed with they.
Do not say that in the show. They do not.
He is fucking in love with the actress mother.

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It's disgusting the way disgusting with her.
It's disgusting. Mind you, she's a 50I mean she's
like a 50 something year old woman and he calls her like
she's a little girl still and it's like she's not a little
girl. Stop calling her that.
I mean, it's just the way he talks to her, the way her her,
her, her this like she he was constantly hovering around over

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had some. Weird job description that they
said it was a driver. I was like, this is not a
driver, he's not a job. Instantly with her.
He was like her. Just like.
I mean, and wouldn't you? Call him her.
I don't. Strange.
Cuz she would call him somethingtoo.
That was like, would she call him?
OPA. Like, I don't even know.
It was just like, yeah, I think it was OPA.
Yeah, they should call him OPA. You're calling him OPA?
Like it was just something. About their relationship that I

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never. I was like, this is not sit well
with me, but you don't even knowyour own daughter.
You know all about her, but you don't know about your own
daughters. Got it?
It was foul. It was foul.
And I thought on 2nd watch that the writers seemed to be
implying that they were siblings.
Really. Because the father.

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Of the twins so. The father of the male lead and
his twin sister were abandoned. Abandoned.
The father is supposed to be some director.
Married. With Married with children
Married with. A family of his own.
And I was like, oh, OK, they never show the director.
They never say who it is. They never, like, reveal who it
is. And I was like, was it the dad?

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Was it the female lead's dad? I.
Don't think it was or was. He.
Just obsessed with her in the same way that his daughter was
obsessed with, yes, the second elite.
I think that I think it's definitely the former because I
mean latter because I think thatespecially towards the end there
when he is like with the reporter guy who was also a

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little bit of a villain of the story, another villain of the
story, to be honest. Like, I mean, when he was
sitting and talking to him at the very end about like, like,
why didn't you sell? Like, why didn't you release the
book kind of thing? I feel like that was true about
the director situation. I mean, which revealed to me his
love for her. I thought it was best for her.
And like, so you thought it was best for her to take her
children from her children that aren't yours.

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You know what I mean? Like they weren't actually, no,
I don't. So like, I don't think I don't,
you know? Now that we're talking.
It through. I don't think they were.
Talking but but it's OK. He's like peeing outside the
house. Going back to episode 3, the
male lead is like peeing outsidethe house.
The female lead thinks that he has come from Australia all the

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way to her to see her. She's like delusional and she's
like, you can't. Why would you come all the way
to? Australia.
For me, like, he didn't, sweetheart.
He did not. Yeah.
And the old man that you mentioned, that reporter.
I feel like this is a weird character that probably wouldn't
exist and today and right if thedrama was made to agree.

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Completely agree. Because it was super random
super like hodgepodge together. The reason why he had this
vendetta again wasn't even a good reason.
Wasn't even a good reason the. Final scene of the drama
literally in the last 10 minutes.
They tell you like why he was mad.
At her and it was like she stoleher his sister's sister's
husband back in the day and then.

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A few years later, the sister. Committed suicide and it was
like OK what? What?
I completely agree like that A. Character that they completely
kept bathing like he was going to do something like, oh, he's
going to be the one that revealsthis that does this that he was
to tell all book he was going tobe he was right tell all book is
such a that's also like really. Dated a tell all a tell.

(01:13:32):
All book A physical book. So dated, Oh my God.
Like nowadays it would. Just be you put it.
Out on the Internet? Online, yeah.
You put it out online, yeah. You just get.
It and everyone. 'S like, Oh my gosh, it's going
viral, this news, yeah, yeah, itwould just go viral online
versus him. Literally selling book.
Remember, he was like. Collecting.

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Pictures to put. In.
His book for the tell. I was like, Oh my God.
And then he's just. So disgusting of a person.
Not helpful. He's not he like they're living.
Is he, are you living next to him or living in his house like
it was unclear here he was living with them or next?
Next to them, they were literally living in squalor in a
It was one of those 10 minutes, yes, and he was not helpful.

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Like the stuff he would say whenhe was when our Gauchi was like,
my uncle was dying basically. And he was just like, no, he's
not. Yeah, he was like, no, he's not.
He's fine. You're he's OK.
I mean. The little boy is crying his
eyes out. You know, it was just like, he
was not a nice guy. He was not a good guy at all.
I have to say the love. Triangle.

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Is it even a love triangle? I don't think it is.
It was. Especially.
Because everyone's threatening. To kill themselves.
Every 5 minutes. I noticed that in the very
episode. 1 episode 1 episode 1 starting in episode 1 we get
constant moments of our 2 male leads specifically threatening

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to kill themselves or kill each other.
I mean kill like take the die with the the love of their life
that they love so much. It's like why threading death or
suicide? Like I hated that from the
beginning because it was. And again, if this is your.
Thing then trigger warning, trigger warning show, but it was
constant constant and I feel like that is sprinkled

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throughout the shows of this eraof the early odds is taking
things to the extreme that is mellow for the and being they
love. It oh, dramatic over.
Everything each of the leads arelike, if you don't love me, I'm
gonna kill myself. Kill myself.
I'm gonna kill myself. I'm gonna kill.
Myself, yes every second, especially this like I'm male
lead especially him he. Literally jumps in the water,

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guys. He literally jumps in the water.
He can't swim. He's literally trying to kill
himself, guys. He's.
Literally. Trying to kill him, it's just
ridiculous. It's.
Ridiculous. And it's not even like just.
It's always freezing water, it'salways a hit trip to the
hospital. Everything is life or death.
And I hate that. And I hate that because.

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That it's just like the drama itself is already about life and
death. Like they're literally the the
male lead is dying every single moment we watch.
It's like embarrassing. Yes, it's embarrassing.
To see. Like the?
The. Male lead told you so doesn't do
it. He doesn't after he who knows
that he's going. To die but.
He never threatens, like I'm going to kill myself, but the

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second male lead is constantly, constantly doing it, Yeah, and
it's so frustrating. When you're like, people are
literally dying, it's like Kim, people are actually dying, you
know, like they like be serious.Yes, be serious.
There are people who are actually.
Sick and dying. Right now and you're mad because
the girl won't answer your text message?
No, calm down. Oh my God.
But Speaking of text messages, how awesome.

(01:16:46):
Was it to see flip phones? They were great.
Which are on. Them the charms.
Ringtones, OH. My gosh, I even like just like.
Seeing them like. Type, yes.
And those buttons and the sound,I'm like the good home days, the
good home days. It was really nice.
Yeah, it was, yeah. There's so much complexity to

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the relationship. Between the brothers, even
before they know that they're brothers, the male leads.
So what you said plays like thispick up game in the hospital
which has a basketball court forsome reason after he saved him
from drowning, almost drowning. Yes, from drowning and he's in
the hospital recuperating. They play this one-on-one and

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the male lead is like, you don'thave a brother, right?
Want me to be yer hyung? Yep.
Which is like a, you know, honorary kind of position.
And he says, OK, fine, sure, yousaved my life.
So yeah, you could be my. Young now like that's how they
and it's as simple as that. Simple as that.
Where he ingratiates himself with at this point, who we think
is his biological half brother, yes, We think this is his half

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brother, guys, yes. The whole way through you think
this is his half brother guy brother.
He teaches the the second. Male lead how to swim Yep, he
lets him drown a little, he letshim die a little bit and.
Then you know, brings him back to life.
That's how close they are. His brothers just like stuff.
It's just the whole thing is just unhinged like.

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This revenge plot is a it's a wreck.
It's a wreck. It's not a very good.
Revenge story. No, no, he literally lets him
drown a little bit, resuscitateshim and then and then is washing
his back in the showers afterwards.
It's like, but this guy, like you can see that he's he.
Hates the success. He hates their love.

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He hates that the family, you know, his mom and the brother
are so close. They have an unhealthy
relationship closeness. Which?
Makes the reveal at the end a lot more like what the hell,
that's what I was. Picking up on.
The entire drama because I was picking up on because the.

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Mom is obsessed with her son. She's obsessed with her son,
with her son. Constantly doing promos with.
Him where they look like they'rea couple couple together doing
duets on stage together. She is like.
Kicking all the time next to. Him.
So why? Are they sleeping in the?
Same bed, sleeping in the same bed.

(01:19:17):
I don't know about that. Like it's so questionable.
It's super questionable like. Even a moment she like spanks
him yes in. The bed.
I'm like your son, but he's like, how?
Old is. He he was in his twenties, 20s
and you're sleeping. In bed with him.
Spanking him it was not Yeah, it's so problematic their

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relationship, but then. The male lead sees all of this
and he's like this should be me,mine, this should be me.
I am also her son. Not to mention my twin sister
and the nephew were dirt poor living in squalor.
Living in squalor, So it is. Really, the juxtaposition
between them. Which is constant throughout the

(01:20:02):
show, where they're looking on toward this relationship, toward
the mom, looking in through the giant glass window into the
family room and stuff. And it is brutal.
It's hard to watch. Yeah, you can see and like.
The and I was making fun of the cat we're making.
Fun of the cap. And the pull down moment, but
like there is that big cool downmoment when he is in the car
with them, like he's driving them.

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When he becomes his young, he also becomes his manager.
Yeah, his manager, yeah. And he is driving.
Them back from. Somewhere, and she's like
letting her son lay his head on her lap in the back of the car
and she's singing him a lullaby because he's sleepy or he's
tired. It's just he's so spoiled, so

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such a baby. And a little baby.
He's having nightmares. About ghosts at Ghost Big Age.
At his big age, he's scared of gold and he needed a little
love. Abide to go to sleep in the back
of the car after a long hard dayof singing horribly and then we
have and we have our little character driving them and

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seeing them back there and he hears her singing this lullaby
to him and he starts to tear up listening to his mom sing this
song to this to her, you know her son.
And then when they are getting out of the car or whatever and
she or she calls him and he liketakes the moment to cover his
face with the hat because he doesn't want them to see him
crying. But even moments like that were

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really sad to have this revenge story.
He's trying to get revenge on this, this mother and her son
also just kind of wishing that was him.
Like, if I could just have it beme, I wouldn't want revenge, you
know, like, if I could just haveher love me.
I don't need this. I don't need to be a bad guy.
I don't want to be the bad guy if I could just have her.
And I think that's what was frustrating to get to the end.

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It was like he never got to haveher.
Yeah, he never had that. He had proxy.
Proxy. Yeah, exactly.
Very much proxy. Mothers.
Oh my. That was my biggest problem with
this story was the the motheringthat the other women had to
become. Literally, because that is the
female lead is very motherly. It's very warm.
She's very caring. He's.

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Drawn to that? He's drawn to all of the times
that she thinks of other people other than herself.
You know, she's crying due to this love triangle, this love
square, whatever you want to call it, in the streets,
literally crying in the streets.And he's following her from
across the street and he sees her stop because there's a
child, a lost child. And she's like drying her tears,

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tears and trying to like figure out what to do with this child
and get the child to the parents.
And she takes it upon herself. She does this good deed.
And she's always like that. He sees her do that multiple.
Times we have multiple scenes when she is basically in the
middle of the street doing something and then at the same
time he sees her taking care of someone else or something else.

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In one case it's a stuffed toy dog.
That because OK bloody we have to talk about the other half of
this revenge story. Which is not just him getting
close to the family and trying to, you know, sabotage or
whatever. The sabotage also manifests in
he literally seduces the second female, the lead, who is

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technically the one that. Our Yoon is in love with.
I don't know if this would even fly.
Today. You don't think so?
I don't, I don't think. The seduction.
The the. Seduction.
He literally. Bought an.
Office Tel Condo. In the same building as her to

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try and basically have these mysterious run insurance with
her mysterious stupid get up getup he.
Slicks. Back his hair.
He puts on. This fake pencil mustache and
then he wears glasses, yellow sunglasses at all times.
And this is his costume, this ishis disguise.

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Because she obviously sees him as a manager next to Tegyu in
the second. Male lead.
So every time she sees him he does some crazy.
Not it's not even crazy it's just like random mysterious
thing. He says something to her that
piques her interest. The best 1 is that when they
first meet though and he says. This if you get involved with

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me, it's going to be till death and like literally he says he's
like if you. She's like, don't.
Basically like don't ever don't cross the line because if you
cross the line when you get involved with me, it's going to
be till death. And he's like literally because
I'm dying, you know, So like it's going to literally be till
death. But it was it was a bit.
Much and she's. Supposed to be like a reformed,

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you know, cheater at this point because she's technically at
this point dating Che Yoon. So she's like kind of thrown
away her old ways. So when he's like taunting her
and like kind of, you know, trying to seduce her and she's
kind of like absolutely not. I'm that's not me anymore.
I don't want this. But she's obviously still
falling into his trap because she's, she's she.

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I mean, she was a sucker for it.She really was.
I did not like her. Character.
Only because towards the later episodes she had nothing to do.
She was just walking around at some point.
Yeah, they him. Calling her to take her to
digital and then actually her just leaving, ending up leaving
it. I was like, that was a waste of
character right there. That was a waste.

(01:25:27):
A waste because it's not like hecouldn't have paid for it
himself. Yeah, he could have got there.
He could have did it, yeah, he could have got there to JJ.
People to feel like he didn't need her to take him.
No. And then as soon as she gets
there, she's calling. He's here.
Come get him, you know? Yeah.
She's like, come get your man. Come get your man.
It's fun, Yeah. Like I I can't do anything for.
Him. He doesn't want me.
He don't want me. He took off the mustache like he

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doesn't love me anymore when he.Had the mustache all night.
He wanted me. OK, he doesn't have the mustache
anymore. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad.
Let's talk about the mom a little bit, because I.
Forgot about the moment that shehas a little hissy fit at the
local restaurant that's serving blood sausage and the owner is
kind of like a low class establishment, doesn't have good

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sanitary methods. And the lady serves the soup,
putting her thumb in the soup and serves it at the table.
Yeah, she loses it. She's.
Like this is I would. Never eat here like how dare you
bring. Me here to eat this.
That Lady, the restaurant owner,throws blood sausage.
All over her I miss how much food.

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Was. Thrown around in the show,
That's so true. They don't do that anymore.
They do. Not do that.
Anymore milk. Milk.
Milk, you know, Yeah, you got tothrow the food sometimes you.
Have to throw it I'm. Like that is.
Classic. Where did that go?
But then her hissy. Fit turned into Muhuk.
'S fizzy fit like he actually threw a worse hissy fit because

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there is so many competing feelings here and.
He he wants to please her. And I thought.
That was going to be a. Moment.
I don't know, I even think. Me watching this the same time,
I don't, I didn't remember. I was like, oh, is this a moment
where she's going to actually like, oh, I like this guy.
He's kind of like me, you know, he's a little mean, like I can
be, you know, I thought that wasgoing to be a little moment that

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they were brought further together, but no, not at all.
Like, and I kept waiting for that to happen.
I think again, it was like, oh, there's got to be a moment where
he gets a little bit from her because that's his mom, right?
Like she's got to have a little bit.
But like, you never see that with him.
And that was hard for me. I was like, come on, give him
something. He's dying and we got nothing.

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He's got nothing. He doesn't have anything.
God, give him a little something.
The female lead goes back to clean up the restaurant because
of course, so Adisa ripped it all apart like a gorilla.
She stays overnight, but she wassick like starting the day.
She was already feeling feverishand sick.
And he goes back to this small town that they were at filming

(01:27:56):
earlier. He takes care of her and she's
hell. That's the other thing she just
knows someone took. Care of her through the night
and she was sick and I was like,Oh my God, it's classic,
classic. Classic.
Yeah. Yeah.
That the Mel Lee actually cares about her.
No. I hated that she also was like
oh. You you saved my.

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Life like she. I was like, OK, settle down.
It was just a high fever. It was not.
You were gonna, you were not gonna die, she said.
She was gonna die. She literally thought she was
gonna die. She really.
She really? Thought she really thought.
I love the cliffhanger. Endings though, they're the
best. They're the best.
And so this male lead is there as she's pouring her heart and
saying thank you to Tayyun for taking care of her all night and

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saving her life and all this stuff, and the male lead is
there. You think he's going to say
something or it's just going to end on him looking sad or
whatever for Lauren? No.
He looks up and then unto frame pops his camera phone because he
takes a photo of them hugging. I'm gonna.

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Use it. Yeah.
I loved it. He.
I. Mean it was like a freeze.
Frame of him. Holding up the phone in front of
his eye and you're just like. And he just like takes the
picture. It's like, so dramatic.
I never see someone pressing a phone button be so dramatic.
It was just a Press of a button.And we knew it was going to be
bad times for our Che because hewas going to use that the

(01:29:24):
scandal upon him. And he does he he does get a
scandal out of that. They do break the scandal, I
think in the next episode and. The mom is shown to be a
classist, very much so because she is insulting.
The female lead. And you know, oh, this is going
to ruin Tay. You never be with you.

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Yeah, Like never be with. Her and all this stuff because.
They're unequal. She's of a lower class than he
is. He's a celebrity.
He's a celebrity. Yeah.
Her dad. Finally sticks up for her in
that. Moment and I was like OK, the
only positive thing in the entire show.

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Also in this episode. The twin sister.
Gets sexually assaulted in the street, which is, I think that
moment that you were referring to earlier.
That was really, it was hard. That was hard.
I hated. That moment.
But it was a moment that for theMujo character, it was his
moment to really see that this is his family.

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He wants to take care of his family.
He wants to to have this family in a way.
And I thought that was a good turning point for his character,
at least when he finally kind oftook in his twin sister and his
nephew as like, these are my people, These are my folks,
These are my people. And I can at least say I have
them. And I thought that was a really
good part of that to come out ofthat horrific moment for her

(01:30:50):
because it's horrible. It was.
It was so really, she's loving her skin.
Yeah, it was it and everything. It was.
They don't do stuff like this. They don't do.
That anymore this was really. Rough guys when I I and that's
why. Like, let's, let's talk about.
How bad this Let's talk about itbecause she gets assaulted on
the. Street by a couple of thugs who
kissed her. What they say is sexual assault.
Yeah, sexually assaulted when they when she said no, they did

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not say sexual assault. They didn't say the term sexual
assault. No, they say, kissed her.
They kissed her, yeah. And then the police came.
Before it got more serious. That is a direct quote.
Direct quote from the old the old man.
Who is the worst, the worst, theworst?
He's talking to and he's saying this in front of her son, her

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son, her son, who's distraught. Crying he is.
Crying he is, which I love rollably he and it.
Sounds weird, consolable about how his mother was assaulted,
was assaulted in broad daylight.And I have to say this, I
thought that was wonderfully done that.
For, and I, I think this is not,does not happen as much as it

(01:31:52):
should anymore with prey dramas,but like a child character and
such a dark kind of twisted story being like experiencing
emotions as a child. Like he was taking care of his
mother. A lot of the drama that is true,
but they still allowed his, his child character to be a child
and like was allowed to cry and,and get upset and to be sad

(01:32:13):
about things as opposed to like,I'm just going to be strong.
I have to do this because my momneeds me.
Like he would cry to his mom, even though she wouldn't be very
helpful, he would still cry to her.
And I still I think that they need to do that more with child
characters these days were mature do mature.
Let them be a little child. So I did.
Really appreciate that. Like as much as he was a very
mature, you know, little boy, hestill was a child at times.

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And they kept reminding us this is a child dealing with these
really harsh situations. He didn't go to school, he
didn't go to school, He couldn'tgo to school.
They tried to. Enroll him in school.
Couldn't get him to school like it was.
Yeah, it was really, it was really sad, but it was rough.
And the old man, like we were saying, we always talk shit
about this old. Man in this episode.
But like, he was unfazed, unfazed.
He says, oh, it's no big. Deal.

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This happens sometimes. And the male lead is torn up.
Soji sub goes in as she's takinga bath.
She's taking about like a giant bucket bucket top, all of her
clothes still on. And she has the little
exfoliating. What do they call them?
Like the little mittens that they used when they scrubbed,
like a scrub pad Scrub. Yeah.

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And she's scrubbing her face, scrubbing the shit out of her
face. She's scrubbing her.
It's her. Nillow pad She has her Nillow
pad and she's. Scrubbing her neck and her
chest. And you can see.
It's Red all hurting herself. She's hurting herself because
she feels. Justing because of what Just.
Took place and she's trying to scrub all that off and so you're
watching this and he's watching this too and I was just like he

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is so emotional he's but trying to keep it together yes.
Because he comes down to her andhe tells her, like, do you want
me to help? You he actually do you want me
to help you? And originally I think I thought
he was going to go after the thugs, like go find the guys
that did it. But instead what he does is he
ends up scrubbing her for herself.
Like he takes the and he's because she was hurting herself.

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She was actually hurting herselfand I like that he took it upon
himself. Like obviously she wants to feel
clean. She wants to do this at this
time. So instead of me telling her to
stop it or like don't do that, he takes over and does it less
forcefully. Obviously, you know, so like
that was just like a he's so tender with her, so tender and

(01:34:22):
he's apologizes. For yelling at her because he
yelled at her. Earlier.
He's constantly like in the earlier episodes, yelling,
trying to reconcile. Like how do I even treat her?
Because it is. Frustrating to deal with in a
fully grown adult, but she's not.
She's a child, you know, basically.
And he's frustrated with their entire lot in life and he yells

(01:34:43):
at her for little things. So he apologizes and he promises
to never do it again. And then he helps her take a
bath with like a soft cloth. Instead.
The quote is, I'll wash it all the way.
Yep, I wash it all the way. It's these moments that make you
really get on board with with a male lead and you do with.

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And then he messes it up the next scene when he and he
messes. It up like because he does yell
at her for like other things. It's not as constant and he is
much nicer. Yes, to her, not as severe, but
this wouldn't happen. It wouldn't.
This just wouldn't happen in a drama today where someone is so

(01:35:24):
obviously abusive to somebody. That's disabled.
Exactly and also they would be so abusive and then it.
Like I feel like over time they would just be a good guy.
They would just be better, you know what I mean?
He does not ever. He relaxes, never like, Oh my
gosh, he's the perfect bell lead.
Now. He's never good, he's never
perfect. He's never a sweetheart to the

(01:35:44):
10th degree. Like he's always troubled and
rough around the edges and brutish all the way to the very
end. And that to me is not normal
anymore. It's like, no, they, I mean to
think we followed that characterfrom beginning to end, a
character who was kind of like unchanging and they're bruteness
and they're kind of like, I mean, yelling to the very last
episode, like yelling at folks, man.

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I mean, I feel like the only slapping a kid on the subway,
subway. The old ladies he would like
push old ladies. Away it was.
Rob I was like, why are you so mean like?
He was quite. He was unruly.
Yeah. He's like an animal was and it
all the way to the end, they would do a drastic shift and
they would become this like little Angel by the end.

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He's going to be the way that he's going to be.
I mean it just is what it is they get and granted he is brain
damaged. I know, I know.
That's like tough to like keep in the back of your mind.
Yeah, He is brain damaged. Yeah.
He's got a bullet in his brain. That and he's riding in pain,
Riding in pain every. He's.
He's vomiting. He's.
Bleeding. Profusely.

(01:36:47):
Not just like a Nosebleed. I mean bleeding profusely from
his nose and his mouth. That time he was holding his
mouth when she was talking to him and it was just blood
everywhere. I was just like, I can't do
this. I was like, I can't do this.
I could not do this. It was really, and it was.
Like the acting? Was top tier because I had the
hardest time watching him. Like it was so bad.

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Those pain scenes when he was like the writhing in pain and
just like vomiting over a toilet.
It was just like this is hard towatch guys.
It was it was hard to watch. So we get some more scenes of
like they. Start liking each other, the
male lead and the female lead. She's teaching him honorifics on
the subway and it is revealed that she loves Tagun.

(01:37:33):
She's loved him all her life andTagun has the worst reaction.
Like what do you mean you are? In love with me.
That was his actual reaction, yeah.
Yeah, and he tests her. By telling her, oh, I love you.
And then he runs downstairs wondering how her body is
reacting. And he's like, why is your heart

(01:37:53):
beating so fast? Yeah, he's upset by it,
genuinely. But.
Again. Why would you do?
That to her, that's inconsiderate.
If someone says there is an asshole, there's all assholes.
It's horrible, The. Whole time.
The whole time that everybody. Is everybody there's Like,
where's the good guys, man? Where are the good guys?
I know there are no green flags in this.

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No, don't look for them. They're not.
Here, not one, she says at this point when I look at him.
Referring to the male lead. I feel like I'm looking at
myself. He is shy, awkward, and can't
quite express his feelings right.
I feel sorry for him. Yep.
And then she announced that she's going to travel to Africa.
She's going to move away to Africa.

(01:38:36):
Like what? What?
What was that about? What the hell is that?
Yeah, she doesn't. Guys she does not move to.
Africa and of course, the. Next question is what?
What do you mean Africa? Where in Africa?
Where Africa is not a country, They.
Don't ever say. What country she's they don't
ever say. They just say.
Like Africa, she wants a place where she's not going to hear.
Any news of Korea? OK, fine, we'll let you have

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that. But other than that, no, you
didn't say a country. So there was nowhere you were
moving anywhere because you didn't even know where you were
coming, he says to her. The mail lead says to her before
you go. Make kimchi.
See again, there it is. Again, there it again.
There it is. There's the kimchi refugee
because back to when you just mentioned how she when they
started liking each other and when she he was, she was

(01:39:18):
teaching him how to be, you know, respectful and polite in
his speech. And now that he's in Korea, even
that scene again and there's more scenes that follow that her
taking on this motherly positionfor him.
So it her motherly position thatshe was already doing for you,
it starts to shift over to him. And and so that was when I was
just like, I felt sorry for her every time.

(01:39:41):
I just kept feeling sorry for her.
I mean, even the ending reveals itself that because she has a
moment with you and I think maybe that same episode or yeah,
I think it would seem episode inthe earlier when she's yelling
at him that he's treating her like his mother, like I'm not
your mother. She says that the thing that
keeps happening with you and butshe doesn't notice it starts to
kind of trickle, at least to me,over to you Hook as well.

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She says I can't make kimchi, but I can make radish kimchi.
And he smiles and I love that scene of him.
Like he looks so disappointed that she said no to that.
She said no. But then she says, well, but I
can make radish kimchi. And then he's like, Oh my God.
She said yes, I'm going to get kimchi.
Kimchi made kimchi until his mother actually stayed.

(01:40:25):
Like, yeah, mother, I mean, cuz then the next scenes are
basically these montages of likeher basically moving in with him
and moves in like a mother, a figure again.
So I'm like, there is this moment where it's like, that's
how we're supposed to know that this is love for him.
Like why wouldn't he fall in love with a woman who's like his

(01:40:46):
mother, right? Like that's what it the mother
he never had, that mother that he never had.
Why wouldn't he love fall in love with?
Her, you know. I mean, it's the love that he
had from his ex back in Australia, like the same kind of
love he had for her. I believe me, Kimchi, she's
actually stepping in helping me,you know, living, making this
home with me. Like she started teaching them
all how to read and like write their letters and stuff like

(01:41:08):
that, literally. And even when like the little
one Gauchi, he's. Not enrolled in school.
So she's like, oh, I need to go help him get into.
She tries to enroll him. Yeah.
She becomes his mother, the twinsister and the.
Diamond ring. Debacle.
Yeah. That was brutal.
It was so hard to watch because it was hard to watch.
This is her mother. It's bad.
The mother calls her like a freak.

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It's. An entire thing.
The cops get called and the female lead is literally just
sitting outside letting this allhappen.
She does not. I really I was shocked by that,
did not. Understand that I was shocked I
was cuz she's known to always. Kind of step in.
And help. And this was the time when she
didn't do that. And so when he comes and sees

(01:41:48):
her doing, like, standing outside, Yeah, He's like, are
you kidding me? He looks at her.
Yeah. Are you kidding me?
And I think it was also just harder for him.
That's their mother that's doingthis, berating and belittling
her child. Yeah.
It's horrible to watch the prayer.
Do you want to talk about the prayer?
Oh, the prayer. What episode was the prayer so I
have. It down as episode 8 if you let

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me have her. For the time I have left, if you
let her comfort me. For the time I have left, if you
don't hurt me again. I could stop everything right
now. The hatred, the anchor.
I'll let it all go. Yes, the prayer so.
I I. I thought it was interesting
because it. Came out of nowhere.
There's no mention of God from the very beginning of the drama

(01:42:32):
where the like the male leader, anyone else is like, oh, why
would God do this? Why would God allow this?
Like there's no one, no mention.And then all of a sudden we have
this like prayer that came a be.And this prayer is, I guess the
when it comes to be. It is during that time where
he's actually getting the chanceto have this like little
happiness. He's getting this little piece

(01:42:53):
of a pie that he finds. Like I'm finally getting a piece
of the pie, like I'm finally getting something.
And he's living this little family life with his, you know,
sister and his nephew and this woman who has come in like a
mother figure for him. And he's enjoying that.
And so that's when he takes the time to like, oh, wait a minute,
I don't want to die. I don't want this to be my life.

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I want I don't want revenge. I don't care about that, but
happy life have this woman and that's where that prayer comes
from. But I just thought it was a
little weird that it there a prayer showed up in the story,
because that's what I'm and that's what I mean when I said
in the beginning that they drew that in there.
I think they threw got it to this kind of nihilistic view

(01:43:33):
that the story is really presenting.
But I think they could have set that up.
We get a prayer from his mother for her son.
Remember she like says and it's the same same shit.
Yes. So it's like where is.
These prayers coming from. When when did they become
religious? No one goes to church.
Like, yeah, this really kind of pessimistic, very depressing

(01:43:53):
view of their lives at the time.And him grasping for straws, you
know, grasping for hope. And I and I, yeah, it was, it
was sad. I'm going to be honest.
I thought it was really sad whenhe had to feel the need to, to
sit out and sit down and kind oflike, OK, now I'm going to throw
up a prayer when I realized like, I actually want to live
this, this little life that seems to be starting for me.

(01:44:15):
It's a consolation. Yep, Yep.
He's like, finally, can I have this like?
Please. He's like I.
Won't do the revenge stuff. Dude was like, you got caught in
your own revenge story like this.
Yeah, you didn't. You weren't good at it, you
know, But I felt like that was also.
Interesting. That he was praying like, I
won't do this, that stuff anymore, God, if you just give
me this. And it's like, well, he knows
he's wrong. Yeah, he knows he's wrong.

(01:44:36):
He knows he's wrong. He doesn't.
Want to do it? He just wants his mom.
And it turns into this revenge that, you know, he doesn't want
to really be putting forth, but he's wrapped up in, you know,
the second male lead drives his car off.
A Cliff. I mean, it's the whole thing.
He ends up in the hospital, he'sgot a heart condition and the

(01:44:56):
female lead goes catatonic. I don't know.
The sister ends up saying Unche.Hasn't eaten, hasn't slept.
And is almost showing signs of autism.
And I said I I had to. I was like this translation
error like. That cannot be asked.
Actually, it has to be. I literally saw that.
I was like, no, this isn't what she really meant.

(01:45:17):
I know that. I was just.
It can't be, right. Yeah, I was autism.
Yeah, we get the. Famous line though.
In this episode, Let's eat, Let's eat something.
She's yelling to stop the car and she's very upset.
He says would you rather eat or kiss me?
Would you rather eat or sleep with me?
Would you rather eat or just live with me?

(01:45:39):
Would you rather eat or would you rather die with me?
There it all is guys. The.
Infamous line. Yeah, that's the.
Infamous. Line I mean.
When he. Started.
Saying it, I was like, yeah. That's right, I said to save it
I. Forgot when that scene happened.

(01:46:01):
I forgot when that line happened, but.
When it came, I was like, this is it.
I had a freak out moment. I was like, Oh my gosh, it felt.
Like I was same. Yes, here it is when you get the
die with me. I was like, yeah, I.
Forgot she doesn't know he's dying.
You know, she doesn't know he's dying, but then so I'm going to
like. Skip to the to the next few
episodes, which is basically he's actively dying.

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He goes to the hospital, they scan him and they they're like,
yeah, you're actively. Dying you have maybe 3.
Months left at most. That's maximum most.
Yeah. I love the scene where he's in
the hallway. And a dead body.
Gurney passes, passes by, and he's staring down at that body
passes and it the. The person who's dead hand hits

(01:46:44):
his hand, Yeah, he's just touched by death, by death by
itself. Touch my death itself itself.
I was like. We don't get these like cheesy
things. Anymore in cage.
I like them, though, I'm not gonna lie.
Not a lot. We're missing some of those I
think we need more of. Those.
These days actually, because I feel like some of the stuff is
kind of just it's too old. It's like it's Sid more than

(01:47:06):
it's like giving like these little, little, little moments
that you show exactly because that's a moment someone would
have came and said that, you know what I mean?
Like exactly, you know what I mean?
And so I missed those moments, but it was too touched by this
show. Not not told.
And the second male lead the brother.
Is also dying. He's got a heart condition that
was exasperated by the car accident.

(01:47:27):
Yeah, he needs a heart transplant.
And you're just like, oh, here we go.
Because whose heart is going to become available?
Whose the one who's? Dying.
Yeah, and she is very wishy washy.
Because. She doesn't like that.
This, this whole thing was exasperated.

(01:47:47):
Yin's condition was exasperated because she rejected him.
Yeah, yeah, she doesn't like that.
It leads up to this part. Where he tells the male lead
told you so tells. Her I will save Yin, so don't
cry. I can't stand watching you cry.
You look as ugly as Shrek when you cry.
That's 2000 and one 2001. Shrek is when.
Shrek. Was released, he says.

(01:48:10):
I'll give my heart to yin. OK, I'll give my heart to yin.
So will you be with me? And she like, I think for like a
whole entire episode, she is fucking pissed.
She's I, she was livid. I've never seen her like that.
I mean, she this entire time shewas this very, like we said,
motherly caring type of character, but for him, she

(01:48:30):
completely shut it shut off. She was like, I don't want
anything else to do with you, leave me alone.
This is where we get the milk thrown, you know, like she was
over it. And then she thought he was
mocking. Yes, the situation because she
thought being like, joking, joking because she's like, he's
like, I literally will be dying.I have a heart to give to you,
He said. I had three months to listen.
She was like, yeah, OK, fine. Yeah, she didn't.

(01:48:52):
Believe anything at all he said at all.
And it was so frustrating. And that's what you were saying?
Earlier you were like, why? In dramas where they they're
literally telling people stuff and the people are still like,
I'm not going to listen or I'm not, I'm not going to say
anything. It's like guy just told you he's
dying in three months to live and you're still like, how dare
you mock death? Like he's not mocking death.

(01:49:13):
He's he's dying like you're going to.
Die. Get.
Together so. There is a weird scene where he
kisses her suddenly he's like, overcome and kisses her.
And she's like, oh, is that whatyou wanted this entire time?
And they go to a motel. Yeah.
This is what I have to do for you, for you to give your heart
to you. And Oh well.
I'll do whatever for him. She's like UPS but and he's just

(01:49:35):
like. Bye and bye.
Never mind. Yeah, because the problem is she
keeps making it seem like. Well, at least to him.
Like, oh, I love you so much. I would do anything for him.
She kept saying that over Yeah. And like was like rubbing it in
his face and he's. Literally offering.
His heart for this man and we'reyeah, he was serious.
He was said serious. Yeah.

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She wasn't buying it anyway. So fast forwarding, the mom gets
wind. Through Teyun because Teyun
steals the X-rays out of the house and that he finds out
through the female leads dad, dad to go to the doctor, wears
hippo, wears privacy out the window.
Same thing with with it Somerset.
I was like, yes, Somerset, same thing, same.

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Thing like you're just giving people their records.
Medical records. No, no, it's, it's heinous.
Heinous. So everybody.
Finds out, except for her, that he is dying.
Actually dying, actually dying with the bullet in his head.
He has a healthy heart, healthy heart.
The mom takes upon herself to try and ingratiate herself with
the family, buy gifts, send money, send through and all

(01:50:39):
kinds of medicine, all kind of herbal tea.
Good for the heart. Yes, the moment.
When he realizes that she's trying to buy the heart, the
heart is such a gut wrenching moment.
It's disgusting. It's disgusting behavior and she
knows it's. Disgusting.
She starts off by that. She talked.

(01:51:01):
When she's talking to her OPA, yeah.
She's talking to her OPA. She's like, I don't care if you
judge me. I don't care what you think
about me. I will pay for my sins when I
pay for them. But you know what?
I have to do what I want. I need to do for like I know
that parents will do everything,anything for their.
Sons. Anything for their children and

(01:51:21):
they lose who's all sense of right and wrong.
And she knew she was dead wrong for all of us.
All of this later on when he goes to confront her and says,
oh, I signed up to be an organ donor and I'm gonna give my
heart to him. He says, oh, we're using all the
things that you gave us. Yeah, we're enjoying, you know,
we're enjoying the clothes and we're enjoying the.
Food and thank you so much and it.

(01:51:42):
Breaks her down, she hates it. She's like I, she gets defensive
and she's like, oh wait, you don't.
Have to do this. Like, she almost goes into like,
oh, wait, really? Why would you don't?
Don't. I wasn't trying to do that.
Yeah. She was like, I promised I
would. That's not what it sounded like.
You know that's not what it looks.
Like but it was and he totally convicts her in that moment.
You know? Soji sub showing up and being

(01:52:04):
like, well, here you got what you wanted.
And I also thought it was interesting that and again the
play that the second-half of this.
Drama since the prayer started going with like, the religious
kind of connotations and kind ofChristian moments.
She's like, I'm going to hell yes.
Yeah. Like that kept coming up, you
know, like. These moments and with even.
With his character Kim being like hey, I'm gonna, I'm trying

(01:52:25):
to do 1 good thing before I die.Like because just in case you
know, like I could, you know, like I can go to heaven.
So I go to heaven. Like maybe if I do this one
thing? I won't go to hell and I can't
I. Think he actually says that he
he says that a few times yeah. So I thought that was
interesting that that kept coming up towards the end after
the prayer, the episode 8 prayeryeah.
They play red light green light a couple of times in the

(01:52:46):
tenement house and. I thought that was nice to see
in the wild because Squid Game has like taken it to home.
It was completely recontextualized now and I'm
like no like this. Is this is how you?
Yeah, this. Is actually how you play it?
Yeah, it was. Really.
Cute, yeah. The fucking.
Dad. The fucking dad.
So she finally finds. Out that he's.
Dying, that Mujiok is dying and she's going to go back to Teyoun

(01:53:09):
and tell him it's over. Like I'm not going to come and
see you. I'm not going to be at your back
and call. I'm going to be with Mujiok with
whatever time he has left and please let me go.
And you know, I've been so cruelto Mujiok and all this stuff.
The male lead and the dad is like, you're not going anywhere.
Manhandles her into the house. Locks her into the room.
Locks her out, my God. Unhinged behavior and we don't

(01:53:32):
see that anymore. Locking people no in their room.
No, he's threatening divorce. He's threatening to.
Disown the dog daughters. The other two sisters, if they
open the door, he's off to find a new house for them.
He's don't this is one of the sisters like I have a job in her
job. I need to get in the room.
He's like, you can't go to the job in the other sisters.
Like do I have homework? Yeah, the other sisters like I

(01:53:54):
have homework. I have to go to school.
He's like, you're not going to go to school and like the mom's
like she hasn't eaten all day. However we have to feed.
She's gonna die. No, she can't eat nothing.
She's gonna. She had just like.
Fallen down the stairs at so she.
She had like scrapes. All over her blood.
They're like she's all. Hurt.
We need to tend to her room. She's like, he's like nobody's

(01:54:14):
tending to her room, nobody's going inside.
What if she has to use the bathroom?
She. Can't use the bathroom it was.
Unbelievable because she was going to see me hook like that
was literally. The only reason he locked her
up. The only reason.
And I wonder why you're so up inarms about him.
Because you have been lying tired and you haven't been

(01:54:36):
helping the 'cause when this. Man.
Has been. Reunited with his mother and you
could have been like, hey, this is your actual son that I sent
was dead all those years ago. Like why couldn't you have done
that? He's just so problematic.
Like I hate that dad. I hate that dad.
I hate. That I hate it.
I mean, I do love the moment in episode 13.
When they do. Meet up finally because she gets
let out and he was waiting for her in the rain and she's like,

(01:54:58):
she's going to get sick. She was like, I have to go out
there. I have to go.
Yeah, he's outside. He's on death's door.
He. Can't be out in the rain
anymore. Sickness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they go to a motel and she
kind of like. Washes his clothes again.
Very motherly thing to do. She's doing his laundry and he
is very gentle with her as he applies.
Again, just like the second malesubject I did earlier, those are

(01:55:21):
her sons. Those are her sons that also
take care of her at. Times, it sounds like when she
gets scraped on her face. Yeah, they kiss.
They've kissed, like several times by now, but.
He's like wrapped in a quilt with no shirt on.
I was like, if I have if I have an early aughts type, it's that
it's Cindy. So wrapped in a quilt, Yeah.

(01:55:43):
I was like, oh. He looked too fine.
He looked too fine. Because they ditched.
The hat in like the last few episodes they did, yeah, which
was great. Which we needed this.
Great. This was great.
When they got exactly how much the mustache I'm I'm like, you
know, I'm not a fact. Oh my God.
But anyway, so I'm gonna. Speed round through the.
Last few episodes. Because we find out, Cheyenne

(01:56:06):
finds out. He gets mad about everything,
all of the truth that comes out.He drops one last truth bomb,
which is he's adopted. He's the one that's adopted.
He's adopted his their mother that they're fighting over to
some extent isn't his real mother.
No, he was adopted by. She's been acting a fool over

(01:56:30):
this man who's. Not her biological child.
Biological child I was laying inbed with is not.
Giving sponge baths to at his big.
Age that. Is not her biological, not her
child? Interesting.
You don't say you don't. It was.
The biggest shock it was. The So there's lots of birth
secrets in here and. That's the biggest one.
That's the biggest one. That is the biggest one.

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And that scene, though, like I said, that was I mentioned at
the beginning when I said I loved to host performance in
that scene when he's like it threw tears, like kind of
detailing this. But then he also says for him,
that's what makes him realize their mom, You know, our mom
here isn't a villain. He's like for her to love me
like this and give want to give up her life for basically like

(01:57:15):
to this person that isn't her blood, you know, like to me,
that makes her someone who actually cares about people.
So I want to tell her that your her her son because I feel like
she would embrace you like she would love you.
He would love you if she loved me and I wasn't even her.
Son, you know, like it's. Powerful.
It was beautiful. It was the me.
Maybe my favorite. Scene out of the whole thing

(01:57:36):
like. That was my favorite moment.
And then you have, you know, so just up character sitting there
in shock. There's like, what did you say?
He's like, look at him. What did he come again?
What did you say? It was a great, great scene.
But I actually detailed something when I was, I wrote
this out and I wrote out the part that I loved about it was
that, you know, there, this is the reveal of like them both

(01:57:58):
having been adopted. And then it was like 1 in Korea,
obviously, and then one overseas.
And then the beautiful part is that they are sitting and
drinking soju, but not soju, butnot because they both are,
they're both very sick. Obviously.
They're both at death store technically.
And so he has poured out soju sub has poured about the
alcohol, the soju and replaced it with water.

(01:58:18):
And he's like, let's just drink this.
Like we are drinking soju. And they're sitting in, you
know, his little rundown house with his, his family.
And they're sitting against the wall with these children,
elementary school kind of posters behind them.
And so all of it, I was like, this is just giving 2 little
boys, right? Like they are basically not able
to drink alcohol. So they're portrayed as being

(01:58:40):
young because they can't do that.
And then they're sitting againstthese elementary school posters.
And I just felt like my heart was breaking for them.
I really felt that I was like, this is that moment when I was
like, OK, I was picking on them the whole time about them being
so immature and so like, little baby birds.
And they're just like, oh, my gosh, here they go whining like
immature little boys. But then it was the realization,

(01:59:02):
oh, they're little boys. Like, you know, like, yeah, they
are. Like, it was actually really sad
for for me at that point. So yeah, one of my favorite
scenes, hands down, by far. The mom makes him ramen because
he begs her. To make it.
I was distraught. I was distraught.
That's like seriously upsetting.Like it's so.
Getting more and more upsetting.Yeah, as you go on, it gets more

(01:59:25):
and more upsetting. You do.
Get that scene A. Little earlier because we're
kind of past it now, but she writes.
I'm sorry, I love you. Love you on the bathroom mirror.
Yeah. And The thing is.
I thought was cool. About the title, I'm sorry, I
love you. It was like that moment at the
end where she's like screaming Ilove you, I love you, I love
you. She just keeps sitting.

(01:59:45):
You can't help herself. I love you, I love you, I love
you. And then I.
Realized like that's also the title of the drama because she's
like, I'm sorry, I love you because it's it makes it hard
for you and I'm sorry, I love you because it makes it hard for
me. Exactly.
They were so beautiful, but theynever, she never says it to that
extent. To him.
I'm sorry I love you, but she just is saying I love you in a

(02:00:06):
way that sounds like, Dang it, I'm sorry that I love you.
You know, like that's how she was saying it.
Yeah. It was so good.
He calls her and says Blockhead,I'm sorry, I love you.
I love you. It was fine and he repeats it
back to her because it's after she had.
Written up on the bathroom mirror.
So you know that or she knows that he saw it.
Yeah, he does love her because that he didn't when she was

(02:00:26):
screaming I love you, I love you.
He was. Non response, like non
responsive. He didn't say anything but then
also when he says I was like up he's getting ready to die, you
know, OK, he's almost over. I was like it's coming.
So I. Vividly remember this.
The final scene with. Him which is.
Him on the motorcycle. Where did he get a mole?
Where did he get a mole? Someone.
Please tell me where did he get a motorcycle?

(02:00:48):
Where did? This come from and then you see
his nose. Bleeding.
Profusely ripping with blood. He's got the headband on again
like he did in Australia, Australia.
And it's almost like a a cross world Collider.
Yeah, because he's. Got the look that he had in
Australia, but then he's in Korea.

(02:01:08):
Yeah, on a motorcycle. On a motorcycle.
God knows why do where he. Got it from Yeah.
Why? I don't know.
And. You assume that he crashed out.
Because he was literally loose. I mean, he was dying
unconscious. He was literally.
Dying on the motorcycle, Yeah, and speeding.
So we can only imagine what happened.
But we don't get to see the actual blue.
No, we don't see that carnage. It's fades to white one year

(02:01:30):
later time. Jump one year.
One year later, obviously, Cheyen got the.
Heart, he's doing. Well, he's on television, we
hear that shit story from the reporter and obviously his twin
sister and the nephew are doing well.
He left them a bunch of money inaccounts that are in their name.
And she is in Australia doing anepic rerun of their romp from

(02:01:56):
when they first met. Yeah, when they first met in
Australia. Yeah, she's hitting.
All the highlights, all the highlights and we're getting the
montages, the. Montage and you're just like, Oh
my God, it's so emotional. Oh, when he dropped me off and
he sold me off at the gentlemen's club.
Oh, when he sold. Me in human trafficking ring and
oh God. No.
Come on girl, Anyway, so. She goes to his grave and the

(02:02:20):
great it says I'm sorry, I love you.
It says I'm sorry. I love you, cha moo hook.
Literally. I couldn't contain my laughter.
I had to pause because I was laughing.
So hard and then get this. I had forgotten the last two
minutes of the show. Oh yeah, same.
Oh, same. Oh, so how did?

(02:02:40):
How did you? Find this so so.
I was in shock. I was in shock.
I had caught I. Literally just paused it to
laugh, to laugh, right to laugh.I was to be inspecting to be
honest. I was in my head, I was
inspecting the grave. I was like, are these real?
Like, how did they? How did they feel like I was, I
was, I was looking at that. Focus on that too much.
And. Then when you get the voice over

(02:03:02):
and I start reading, because I'malready inspecting, I'm looking
at stuff on the screen and I seethe subtitles come up and
they're like, Korean woman founddead my grave site.
I was like, what's like the realwoman dead by grave?
Site about that. Same one that was.
Just looking at laying on the grave, the gasp that I got, I

(02:03:23):
was, I was the gasp. I was that I gusp.
I was with you. I was I, I've never I.
Forgot that she. Committed suicide Romeo and.
Juliet to join him she takes. Poison guys.
Like literally straight up. Juliet she Juliet, she Juliet
herself. She cheated herself up.
Did you eat it herself, Julie? Eat it herself.

(02:03:46):
Out of the story, it's like the end that is the that is in the
final two minutes show, then credits roll and you're just.
You're stuck. We didn't even mention.
This. The other thing is that right
before this. Our Changyun character has
basically getting ready to perform his comeback show.
And everybody, the whole crew isat his his show, at his

(02:04:06):
performance. There's chairs set up and
there's a chair. There's a chair for her.
It's a chair for her. And they're all like, oh, has
she? Has she come in yet?
We're coming. Oh, she's yeah.
She's enjoying her vacation. I don't.
I must be nice to be on vacation.
Like, they're talking about her.Like, we're just waiting for her
to show up. And then they flash to heart,
laying in Australia at a grave site, dead.

(02:04:26):
They what? What they're what her?
Sisters are. Also like oh I.
Don't know where she. Is it your sister's died?
Your sister's dead? I have crazy we.
Have crazy? Guys, I'm I'm in shocks too.
Because it is. It is telegraphed throughout the
show. There's clues to lead you here.
And still I forgot. And I forgot I forgot.

(02:04:50):
I thought I. Just was picturing.
Him, his motorcycle death. Correct.
That's all I can really remember.
Same. This ending of her laying on his
gravesite and her poisoning herself.
Like Juliet was like, Oh my gosh, really?
Guys? Like they talk about.
Yeah, like, really, we did not need.
And she has a little voice over.It's like, he was so lonely.
And during this life, I don't want him to be lonely even in

(02:05:12):
death. So I'm.
I'm basically following him out.Like that's what she says.
Like I'll see myself out. I'll see myself out with him
like and mind you, these and thethe thing.
That always gets me with these early 2000.
K dramas, it's like these peopleare like 25 years old because
they're literally they're frontal lobe has nothing they
haven't. They're 242325 like they are.

(02:05:35):
Killing these folks off like young I, I hate it.
I hated it. I'm like, that's so sad.
Like this girl? Had all her life to live and she
even says that like. I'm finally get choosing
something for myself. I'm finally choosing to live for
myself, and that's to die. Like wait what?
You're living for yourself for the first time and it's to
choose. It's crazy to me that the mom

(02:05:55):
never finds out I. Hated it.
The mom never finds out that shehad her children.
Actually they did not die. She thought she would have to be
1 kid. I wanted to tell all to be
really. Here's the thing.
Here's the thing. If you were having twin.
Babies, how do you? Know How do you not know?
How do you don't? How do you not know you have
twins? How do you not?
Know that you're having twins. She didn't know.

(02:06:16):
She didn't she. Carried them to term.
She didn't know, she didn't. Know she did.
So number. One she thought she was having
one child. One child, she thought it.
Was a son and it was a son. Again, how do you just wild?
How did they never tell her yourchildren actually lived?
It was twins, twins and here is your biological daughter and.

(02:06:39):
Here is. Your biological nephew?
Never. That is another kind of cruelty
that they did not. Go.
Into and I think that was another reason was like the way
they treated the mother. Character And it's like that was
because it was not for her. It was hurtful for her to never
have that. And to never know that.
I don't care that she got her the son that she adopted.

(02:07:00):
He got to live. I don't care, okay, I don't
care. I want I want her to also know
about her other two children. Yeah, what's so wrong about
that? Like, even if they're both, I
wanted a. Beautiful moment and the.
Fact that she mourned them. She mourned her son.
Yeah, she brought up the son that she lost.
Exactly. Why couldn't you just hey.

(02:07:21):
Good news, kids. Yeah.
Some other kids, guys, yeah, shesaid.
This because one of her big things she kept saying that was
hurtful for Moohook was that when she would say like, this is
my only living air, like, yeah, all I have, like, if he dies, I
might as well die too, right? Well, actually you have.
Other family you have other kidslike you have blood walking this

(02:07:41):
earth he's not even your blood you know so it's annoying yeah
not to belittle like a people that are adopted adopted but in
the. Context of the show tell her she
has she has children children she does yeah, 'cause and that's
but I do I always do like. With the heart stuff, 'cause
this is also give it early 2000,like the fact that he got her
son's heart Oh yeah, she actually exactly.

(02:08:03):
She has her son. You know, I did like that.
I'm I'm a sucker for that. You could tell that's why I like
early kids. Also the female leads Dad got
the punishment, the punishment he.
Said he was like, I'm willing toaccept any punishment.
Yeah, his. Daughter.
Daughter instead of dying. Yeah, your daughter dead.
She ends up dying, lost her daughter.
So there's that. Yeah, but but that's it.

(02:08:24):
That's we're at the end of it. That was that.
That was it. OK, Lola, any other thoughts?
Before we get out of here. Been here a minute.
I know you always keep me. You always.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
No, but I, I, yeah, I think talking.
Through it again. Like again.
I find so much that I appreciateabout this drama and I'm glad I

(02:08:45):
got to rewatch it to experience some of those big memorable, you
know, memeable moments because Ifeel like they still make memes
about them to this day in Korea,still make jokes about those
moments. So experiencing it again after
all these years was really nice.So I'm so glad I got to watch it
again. But I definitely, it was like,
it's still not my favorite storyby far.

(02:09:05):
Wouldn't go out of my way to really recommend it.
If you No, that's not unless youwanna cry.
Unless you want the melodrama. Unless you want the over the
top, then it's perfect and there's some moments you will
laugh and there's some moments that you.
Shouldn't be laughing, but you will laugh.
You will laugh, but I think and even.
How they did. The comparison with the adoption

(02:09:27):
in Korea versus adoption of someone who went, you know,
overseas as in Australia. So I thought that was also
interesting to show that comparison as well.
So yeah, it was a experience. It was 100%.
I'm like overheated Lola. I know you always get overheated
when I started yelling at the end.
That's how you know, you know, you know, Lola, where can people

(02:09:49):
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over there and if you want to kind of holler at me or see what
I'm doing, come find me on Instagram at little pops off
about K dramas. I'm always talking to people
over there in the DMS and comments, so I'm always
available. But other than.

(02:10:30):
Yeah, that's where you'll find me.
All right. Thank you, Lola.
Till next time. That's been our show.
I'm Jessica and this has been the Tabaki Rambles podcast.

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