Our Beloved Summer / Ep. 94

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I'm Jessica and this is Taba K Rambles where a couple of
friends review Korean dramas andwe are back with another 2021
drama. I didn't realize this I was
going to have three reviews in arow from 2021, but here we are.
I have a couple of friends with me.
Today I am joined by Becky from Don't Sue Rebecca on TikTok
slash drama Detours podcast. How are you, Becky?

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I'm doing well. How are you?
I am doing well. Thank you for being here.
And we are joined by Liliana from the Tea in Soju podcast.
How are you, Liliana? I'm doing well.
Thank you. So excited to record this one
with you guys. I know we're going to be talking
about our beloved summer, which we have managed to rewatch and

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and get in our system in the summer time, which was really
nice, really sweet. What have you guys been watching
lately? Besides you know our beloved
summer on and off? Well, I finished up The Prisoner
of Beauty, loved it. I called it.
It's going to be one of my top dramas for 2025.

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Like I I will say it right now. I also right before we sat down
to record, I finished up Feud which is the Bai Lu Xianchi.
Dramas that not so good. No.
No, no, I wouldn't like. Oh no, no, Becky, it's not your
thing, but Shancher and historicals aren't your thing

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anyways. I think if people just go in and
think this is going to be like your straight up romance story,
that's not what it's about. Think about the name.
It's called Feud for a reason. There's a lot of
misunderstanding, but it's actually done fairly well.
And once everything kind of comes together, I, I feel like

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this is one of those where the second-half, they're stronger
than the first. Half.
People don't like that. No, they don't.
They don't. I liked it.
Is it going to be a top drama for me?
Absolutely not. But I still think it was an OK
kind of drama. And then I think I'm just
watching Our Unwritten Soul, which is the K drama with Pat

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Boy Young. And yeah, I think I'll say
those. I've got a few more, but I think
those are the three. Well, now that two of them are
finished, I'll have to start looking for some new stuff to
sort of fill the gap, which we'll have because we'll have a
dream within a dream starting. And I'm like, I'm ready for the
Yinning. I'm ready for the.

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Yinning, it's his year, it's hisyear.
It's loaded. Oh, and I'm so glad he's having
it because he absolutely deserves it.
Becky, what do you, what do you got going on so.
Liliana influenced me to start The Prisoner of Beauty and Kid
you not destroyed my sleep schedule.
But I'm not mad. I just like I have to figure

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that out because the first nightI started watching that drama, I
think I stayed up till 3:00 in the morning, had watched 8
episodes straight and then I hadwork the next day.
It was a Sunday and I was like, why did I do this to myself?
But I love it. I adore it.
But I definitely it's not my normal genre and I'm having a

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really, really fun time with it.The other one I'm watching is
Our Unwritten Soul and I love that one too.
It's so good. It's almost ending soon, but
just a very like healing drama. And then I was talking before.
It's not really a drama, but I need everybody.
You don't understand. I will vouch for this movie K

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Pop demon hunters was so good. It was so good to a point it
exceeded my expectations. But also like just the the
writing, the style, like it justhad the perfect amount of like
if you watch K dramas and like them, you'll love this because
they just have they can I say a small it's not even a spoiler,
but it's just to get the people to watch it.

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They even put the business proposal song in the movie.
So Easter eggs doing like a. Slow MO song.
Well, yeah, because the male lead a business proposal is the
voice actor for the guy in the movie.
So it's really good and I just need more people to watch it.
So that's my little promo. You guys should watch it.

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So we got really good plugs for Prisoner of Beauty and K Pop
Demon Hunters, which is a kids movie on Netflix, not a kids
movie. Netflix has categorized it as
kids. Listen, I don't even care if you
like pneumonia or like Into the Spider verse, it's very well

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done so. Yeah nothing, nothing is not
well done. Just saying y'all are strung out
over a kids movie. OK, Anyway, so we are going to
talk about Our Beloved Summer, which is a very nice, chill
slice of life show. And I wanted to cover it because
towards the beginning of the year when I was developing the

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lineup for season 6 of Tibock, Iwas like, damn, I really feel
like we're watching our Beloved summer for some odd reason.
I was like, oh, I'll just make it so that I watch it in the
summertime even though this was released in the winter time.
And I still feel like it was a good decision.
So we're going to get into it though.
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All right, without further ado, we're going to do non spoiler
and spoiler section for our beloved summer.
Starting off with the My Drama List synopsis, which reads years
after filming A viral documentary in high school.
Two bickering ex lovers get pulled back in front of the
camera and into each other's lives.

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Chei Wung seems naive and a freespirited man, but he wants to
have something for the first time in his life.
For that, he shows what he holdsin his mind.
Kukung SU aimed to become the top student at her school, but
she is now an adult who lives fiercely, adapting to her
reality. I don't even know what those
like sentences are. They're basically just like

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working adults. He's a professional artist and
they get pulled back in to do a documentary again, a follow up
doc. The show is inspired by the
webtoon Our Beloved Summer, which is by E Na in and Hong
Kong Chao, which is a prequel story that depicts their high
school days 10 years before the dramas timeline.

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It says here it's a different perspective from their past,
including how they first met, grew in each other and fell in
love with each other. The webtoon has a story that
doesn't show up in a drama sequel.
Again, I don't know what that storyline is or what what that
characterization might be looking like that's different in
the webtoon. Our Beloved Summer aired from
December 2021 to January 2022 and it is 16 episodes long,

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directed by Kim Yun Din who alsodirected Tell Me That You Love
Me and That is it. That is all that the direct.
Really. Yes.
I didn't know that is. Shocking.
Yeah. That is shocking to me.
Beautiful. I know I was like, whoa, the
writer Inan and she has written Mellow movie and that's it.

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Like those are the only two things that this screenwriter
has written. Is our beloved Summer and Mellow
movie also starring Che Wu Sheik?
Have you guys seen Mellow movie?I know that me and Liliana have
seen a portion. I didn't want to cry.
OK, OK. But also I was seeing a lot of

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mixed reviews. Like, I remember like saying,
oh, I want to check this out. And like one of my friends wrote
a paragraph and was like, listen, I really liked it.
But honestly, it was, you know, and they just were telling me I
wouldn't like it. And I was like, OK, I won't
watch it. Did you guys like finish?
It so I'm about halfway through it.
And then So what happened was wewere going to watch and review

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it for Liliana's podcast. Yeah, Tien sold you.
And I think you came to me like a week before we were going to
do the review, Liliana. And you were like, hey, how's it
going? What's your watch looking like?
And I was like, oh, I'm like in episode 4 out of 10, you know,
basically halfway why? And she goes, yeah, I'm not

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feeling this like, we need to switch here.
And I was like, OK. We need to do something else.
We need to do something else. So it was initially going to be
fully, you know, watched. And I probably will go back to
it. I still have notes on it.
But yeah, I can totally see how this was written by the same
screenwriter. Yeah, there's definitely stuff.

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I still have notes on it, so I intend to like go back and I
have really good notes on it. So do I.
I don't know, maybe, maybe we'lldo a mellow movie, you know,
review at some point. But anyway, same screenwriter,
you know, and our beloved summerstars Taylor Chic.
As I said, he plays Cheung and he has been it doesn't seem like

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it, but he's been in quite a bit. 17 TV shows, 15 movies
movies like Secretly Greatly Trained to Pusan from 2016,
which there is a full deep dive review on the tip out feed if
you want to scroll back because I covered that during spooky
season last year. He's been an Okja, the Princess
and the matchmaker. The witch part won the

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Subversion from 2018, which I really really enjoyed.
I still need to go back and watch part.
I freaking love that movie. And that is where he first
worked with King Dami, his Co star in Our Beloved Summer.
So this is a reunion for them. Chewishik has also been in
Parasite, the Oscar winning Parasite.
He's been in Divine Fury, Time to Hunt, Wonderland and then for

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television. I really remember him from
Rooftop Prince from 2012 and then most recently he's been in
A Killer Paradox from 2024 whichthere is a review upon the tea
and soju feed. Is that a drama trio one?
I can't remember but. It is.
It is a drama. Trio, yes.

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So we watched that one. We were not 100 on that one.
And then Mellow movie, obviously, like we just said, he
stars in that one as well. It seems like he's got another
drama that's going to drop this year in 2025 called Would You
Marry Me? Fingers crossed.
That's good. It sounds like a romance.
I don't know. Yeah.

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Do you guys like Chowashi? How do you feel about him?
I love him, I think he is so talented and I've been wanting
to check out his most recent projects, but every time I just
people are like, I don't think it's for you and I'm like, you
know what, good to know. And I just don't watch him.
It's like killer Paradox. I remember I like had on my

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list. I was so excited and then it
came out and you know. You're not going to like it.
I'll tell you right now, you're not going to.
Like it, I know well, that's thething people binge watch it and
then they just talk about the full thing like no spoiler
warnings, no nothing. And I just saw like something
about it and I said, oh, this isn't for me actually I will not
be supporting but. I think he's a very.
Talented man. And I specifically, like I said,

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I love the witch subversion so much.
I actually had a moment where I was getting like everyone to
watch it. I was like, hey.
Breaching the good word of. Like the Witcher logging into my
my Vicky, making them watch the movie and him and his Co star
Kim Daumi. They're just phenomenal

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together. So like this project and you
know, our beloved summer like them working together is just it
was so exciting to see. But I, I do want to check out
more of his projects. I'll probably will check out the
one you mentioned that's coming up, but lately I just haven't
been appealing to me personally.I I really like him, but one of

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the things that I appreciate themost about him, it's the fact of
how how diverse his projects arebecause he has this softest
face, like he very babyface, a soft face.
And then he plays a character like he did in the witch and
you're like damn, like the man can really.

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He plays a great psycho character, but he also does a
great golden retriever kind of character.
So he's got range, which I can really, really appreciate in an
actor, I think. Yeah, he's my favorite soft boy.
I love Time was Chic and I was really excited to watch him
again in our beloved summer. Kim Dummy is his Co star.

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She plays Kukung Sue. She has not been like noticeably
hasn't been in that many things TV shows for four television
shows period, including Ethan one class that was the first
thing she ever did for television 9 Puzzles recently
this year. And then it looks like she's got
another project coming out this year called Memories of #100 on

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JTBC. So it's not not a Netflix, not
on Disney Plus, you know, regular network.
And then we've got 6 movies fromher, including the witch Part 1,
the subversion, like I said, theWitch Part 2, it looks like she
makes an appearance in that one,The great Flood and Soulmate.
So yeah, kind of a newer face inK drama land.

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But she's been in some bangers like Eaten one class which did
gangbusters and is really well known.
There's other people in this cast as well that is kind of
like, oh, the second male lead is played by Kim Sung Toll and
like this person's played by so and so.
And we can go on until, you know, we got the whole cast
down. But those are our main 2 in our

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beloved summer. So at this point, we're going to
ask, what did you think of our beloved summer?
How did you maybe, you know, think about it on this rewatch
or coming in to do this podcast?I think I enjoyed it.
It's really nice to actually watch it in summertime because I
feel like it's such a beautiful vibe.

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I still think this is one of thebest directed K dramas that I've
ever watched. It's just stunning to watch.
The scenes that I like remembered are just as good.
I like watching it a second time.
Their chemistry, the character development, their relationship,
I enjoyed all of those aspects. I will say the only thing or one

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of the only things that I didn'treally care for on a reward, I
didn't really care for the rest of the cast.
Like I, I think it's because I had I already knew the story.
So rewatching it again, I was like, it doesn't that part of
the story doesn't really activate me that much anymore.

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But you know, with our main couple, I still loved watching
them and then a story and I had forgotten how the story kind of
develops anyways. I remembered like little key
moments, but overall I still enjoyed it as a rewatch.
But like I said, I didn't navigate towards the secondary

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cast as much as I did the first time around.
Right, Becky? Listen, I I love this drama so
much, almost too much and I justhave such an attachment to the
characters, the storyline, the directing, the pacing.
However, I think there is such athing as watching a show too

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many times to when it comes to re watching it, you're like, I
don't care about these characters or like, you know, I
don't, you know, And I think I, I got to that point because I
have watched the show. I don't even know how many times
at this point really. It's like it's, it's a comfort
drama. So I would put it, I think

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maybe, maybe I'm exaggerate maybe like four or five times.
Oh wow. OK.
So well, that's so I think it was a little lackluster for me
this time just because it's sucha comfort show to me.
But I think I had watched it toorecently to like really kind of
see it from different perspectives.
Although, you know, I do just adore this show, the music.

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Oh my God it was nostalgic. The OST is hearing unassailable.
Unassailable OST like top five this.
Yeah, listening to V sing again,I was just like, as he's coming
out of the village, I'm just like, this is the perfect time
for me to be doing this right now.
It. Was just, it was so nice to hear

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those songs again. It made me want to break out
like my OST and my record playerand just like, but I do love it.
I always recommend it. The only thing is, you know, if
you are doing a rewatch, it is aslower drama.
And I'll never forget because myfirst time watching this, I
remember I was watching it ongoing and I paused it because
like there was not really a lot going on and you know, I was

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busy with life and stuff. Then I went back to it and I'm
like, why did I ever pause this drama?
But they're all are lulls that make you want to know, like, you
know, so if you like fast-paced dramas or you like, this is more
of a relaxing comfort drama, andI love it.
But for me, yeah, the rewatch, it was still good.

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It was still good. But that's my little confession.
OK, no, it's not much of A confession because I'm, I'm
there with you. I ate this drama up the first
time that I watched it. I watched it I think as it was
airing in 2021 into 2022. It was our second, you know,
pandemic holiday season and theninto the new year.
So I think it caught us at a really good time in our lives

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where we really, we're slowing down, like as a society.
And so I think maybe our attention spans were a little
better several years ago than itis now.
I kind of want to say I felt that there was a lot that they
probably could have cut out on this rewatch and it would have
made the drama better. And maybe 16 episodes was too

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much for what the story is. And I kind of was shocked
because several months ago, thiswas already when I had decided
I'm going to do Our Beloved summer.
I'm going to rewatch Our Belovedsummer.
I found out that people didn't like Our beloved summer.
What? Yes, I had been reading some
discourse in the comments sections is about our beloved

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summer. It was getting a lot of slander
and I was kind of shocked that people didn't like it.
And funny enough, the Koreans also didn't like it.
So it had really disappointing ratings on domestic television.
But it became widely popular internationally due to
streaming. So this is another case of the

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Koreans were watching this. I think it was 3 to 5% average
was the viewership. That is not good ratings at all.
And I think the finale episode was the most that people had
watched it at like. 5.3 percent,5.9% in Seoul.
Nobody watched this. In Korea, this was not.

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This was ranked like 17th, 19th,20th like around there for K
dramas that were airing to set the scene.
The next K drama that became bigright after this finished airing
was Business Proposal. So you can see like around the
same time what people were frenzied around and our beloved

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summer is a totally different pace.
It is really freaking slow. It's a almost like a dreamy,
atmospheric slice of life show and I loved it on the rewatch.
I still really, really liked it,but not as much as I did the
first time. And I found somebody, somebody's

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comment because you know how youcan leave reviews in my drama
list? So.
On this one I decided to read the first couple.
The first one was a good review.The second one said my beloved
time dot dot dot wasted. That's I'll be started their
review and I was like expand like quickly.
I wanted to see what they said because it hit me very

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positively. I really like this show.
I thought it was super nostalgicand you know, to summer refers
to like the summer of your life,right?
I loved that concept. I loved the second chance
romance and I really really enjoyed large swaths of the show
even on 2nd watch. This person says I've never been

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as disappointed in a drama as I was with this one.
It started off well with beautiful cinematography and OS
TS, fun plot, good actors. That's where it all ends.
They said it after the first fewepisodes it felt monotonous and
repetitive. The lovey dovey moments, thought

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out characters, fun bickering. They were missing depth is what
they were saying. At any point, stop me and we can
like talk through some of these accusations.
I agree on that necessarily, yeah.
No, they, I think they went intoa lot of it, especially with the
flashbacks of how you got to seehow each character handled all

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those emotions and everything that happened to them in the
story. Like, I don't, I don't agree
with that. It says the trailer seemed
fresh, nuanced, promise. All this.
Afterwards, everything was dull.Filler is what they said this
drama was. The biggest issue was despite
all the love professions acute mimmons, I didn't care for the
couple very much. After showing us how Yongsu

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constantly broke up with him whenever she wanted, the
immature miscommunications, the imbalances in the relationship,
I just didn't want to see them together.
So she didn't even root. This person didn't even root for
the main couple. See like.
The relationship is real though.Couples go through these things.
It's realistic as like what is to happen?

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Liliana, what were you going? To say, well, I was going to say
there is when you're thinking about the whole thing of she
does just I, I personally, and it hit me way more on this
second rewatch. I personally hate couples that
are just like, let's break up, let's get back together, let's

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break up, let's get back together.
And the fact that she does just throw a breakup charge
constantly and his friend next door is just like just go and
apologize. And there's like no real chatter
between them, no real like communication in the past in the

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flashbacks. I feel like there's a little bit
more in the, you know, current time.
I feel like as they develop, they become better communicators
with each other and they tell each other stuff that they
didn't know before. And that's when you start to
sort of root. I think they, but The thing is,

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by the end, I feel like they're,they're still a work in progress
in a relationship and that that's realistic because a
relationship at the end of the day is a constant work in
progress. So I feel like saying, you know,
yes, they're immature. They were kids.
They were like, what, 1617 when they first started dating?

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Well, they were older than that because they were seniors
basically in high school, which means they were 1819 years old,
and then they dated for five years, so they were around 25
years old. Their brains weren't fully.
Developed. Yeah, they still weren't full
adults. Yeah, I think they both had like

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levels of immaturity. And there's definitely a lot of
character development that they both had to go through.
But now I will agree with Liliana and with like the whole
her doing like, if you if you don't say the specific things
like I, I don't want to be with you or like, you know, let's
break up. And that was a little annoying,
especially because I want like you want to root for, but then

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you see how immature she was in the past.
But I mean, everyone grows and learns from their mistakes, so.
This person said that it could have been a great healing drama,
but instead they felt the opposite, like they were
codependent because Teun could only sleep with Yunsu by his
side and Yunsu felt empty without him.

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And I thought that was a really harsh accusation to level
against the show. Yeah, the fact that they called
them codependent, I was like, OK, look, they had to basically
face a lot of things on their own individually and then
together. And to me, this person like,
really didn't like the first love aspect because they are

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each other's first love and thenthey come back.
It's a second chance romance type of deal.
And they were like, it's OK to not stay with the person that
who was your first love. And absolutely that's true.
True in real life, true in K drama land.
But that's where the magic is, is that they were in the prime
of their lives together, making mistakes, being flawed together.

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And there is that immaturity like we talked about.
And then they break up and when they get back together they
still have shit that they have to like, get over.
Yeah. I would say that the positive of
this show is that it is brutallyrealistic in that sense.
Did you guys feel like that was,you know, a pro to the show

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instead of a con? I liked it.
I think it's definitely a pro. I could see, see, I, I could see
myself a little bit in the relationship.
I look, I've been together with my partner since I was 18.
I'm now 32. Like we've been together a
really long time. The relationship we had when we

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were, you know, I was 18, he was21.
And the relationship we have nowwhere, you know, we're both in
our 30s is very different. We communicate, OK, so much
different and I think that's a pro to this show because it does
do that to they go, they have. And actually I feel like that

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breakup worked in their favour because they were forced to sort
of go and deal with their stuff.And that's something that I
don't usually say. I don't usually like breakups in
a show, but in this one, it makes complete sense for them to
do that. It is a pro that it is realistic
because K dramas don't necessarily all the time have to

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be, you know, so far fetched that you can't see characters
being out there in the real world.
And that is the case. Like you could see these
characters. This could be a story happening
in real life, right? And people aren't going to vibe.
Not everybody's going to vibe with that.
And I feel like what this commenter is saying is they

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didn't vibe with the couple. And if you're not going to vibe
with the couple, you're not going to make the.
Couple say you're not just goingto like the.
Show they said Yongsu and Eng were kind of boring both in and
out of the relationship. I didn't.
I didn't ever feel that they hadthat strong of a connection and
I never got why they kept breaking up and getting back
together in the 1st place. Overall their relationship just

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didn't work for me. And yes, they were cute during
the end, but it doesn't make up for everything else.
I don't think this person's beenin a relationship not to.
I'm just going to say that no, but this is the thing that like
anyone would understand in a relationship.
And that's why these dramas, youknow when you watch them, it's
great to see character development.
It's great to see communication,but every relationship has its

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ups and downs. Sometimes there's
miscommunication, sometimes you don't agree with one another.
The biggest thing is talking that out, having that
communication and having an understanding of what your
partner needs and helping them, but also them helping you.
You know, that's the biggest thing.
I liked our beloved summer. Like, here's my thing.

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I didn't mean to get you guys upset, like, no.
No, I just know this is interesting because it's the
first time I've ever heard someone say like that much
negative things about this drama.
And I just, it's like engraved in my heart.
So here's my thing. There are so many dramas where
the couple gets together and then they break up for like the
last three episodes, right? I think that is the stupidest

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thing. So I like this drama because we
don't have to like we're seeing those flashbacks, but we're also
seeing them, them build this whole new relationship, build a
better version of themselves andgrow with each other, which I
adore. And I just, I really think this
commenter that's just like, oh, they're boring.

(30:13):
They they just relationships canbe boring.
Call me boring then. Because this is not all
exciting. This is literally.
Me, I go to work, I come home like, yeah, what do you want?
And like, even if it's a show that they're they're looking for
excitement, I mean, I'm I'm pretty sure is the tag slice of
life or like it's, it's, it's a nice healing.

(30:33):
Like, it's just not supposed to be like, riveting.
Like is there supposed to be like cheating and like crazy?
Slot heavy show. First of all, I am a plot.
Person. I am a plot person.
This is not a plot heavy show, OK?
This is vibes. Yes, this is a lot of vibes.
The genres listed in my drama list are romance, life, Youth,
Drama. There you go, that's.

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The tags are lovers, reunited, second chance, romance, high
school sweethearts, character development, first love,
healing, flashback to pass, loveslash, hate, relationship
interview, and coming of age. So those are the tags that my
drama list has. I think interview was just

(31:16):
thrown. In Yeah, I don't.
I've never like I need to click on interview and see what other
dramas are in. Somebody asked me my favorite
type of drama. I go the interview drama.
Interview dramas. The interview dramas, Irving.
Bro, bro. So if you had to give an
elevator pitch to someone who's on the fence about watching our

(31:38):
beloved summer, what? What would your pitch be?
I think my elevator pitch would be two people, second chance
romance because you got to throwthat out there straight away.
You have to. Like list the tropes.
Yeah, second chance romance withtwo floored people on a Rd. to

(31:58):
make themselves better. Something along those lines.
Very. Nice, I like that.
I feel like mine would be more like trying to rope.
So I I does my pitch. You know I OK.
You like enemies to lovers, right?
Absolutely. What if they already dated
before that and then they broke up, Met again, but obviously

(32:22):
they're not on the same page anymore.
He hates her. She's just trying to, I don't
know if I say work with him, that's kind of a spoil anyways,
right? So they end up going back into
each other's lives and they haveall grown significantly from
when they dated. And they get to learn about the
person that they their first love and how much they've grown

(32:43):
and changed and grow and love the new version of them.
I like that it's. Beautiful.
I love the documentary aspect ofthe show that was pretty unique
when it first came out. And so the concept of the
documentary and the thesis, I guess, of the whole show is that
it's the ordinary moments, the mundane moments in life that

(33:05):
make up our story. And sometimes you have to take a
step back and be the documentarian and say, wow,
sometimes I can't see it becauseI'm in the middle of this shit.
But like, this is, this is my life.
These are the best parts of my life.
And it is the everyday moments where I'm going to see my friend
who owns a a pub and she's trying to get business going.

(33:26):
And it's when I am out here watering my front lawn and my
flower beds. And it's when I'm peeling onions
for my parents restaurant business and it's soup.
Putting up zucchini too too big and putting it in soup.
Yes, it's chopping, being in a complete daze, being strung out

(33:49):
over the sky and chopping zucchini too large to put in
soup, but doing it anyway. Those are the moments that make
life interesting and fun, and that's what you remember.
And that would be in my documentary too.
You know, all of us would have areally boring quote UN quote
documentary if they made one about us and the story is there.

(34:11):
It's really simple and I like it.
Each each episode sometimes has the name of a movie attached to
it, which sometimes doesn't haveanything to do with the movie
that like it's referencing, But that's fine.
It's it's all for cute show. It has Swarovski flip phones,
subway product placement, I meanall the good stuff.

(34:35):
A classic K drop. Classy.
It's a classy K drop and it's slow and I think it probably
works best when you don't binge the show.
Yeah, no, I I feel like it's definitely, it's not, it's not a
binge watch because, you know, there's no cliffhangers at the
end of every episode that you'relike, I need to know what

(34:55):
happens next. It's kind of just it's something
you watch slow paced. But I want to go back to what
you said about if they made our lives documentaries because we
spend most of our time watching shows.
Literally. So it would literally just be us
watching shows that's. It watching TV, yelling at the.
Screen. Falling asleep watching your
show. Like this, this reminds me this

(35:19):
conversation and back to what that commenter was saying about
like how boring it is and whatnot.
And and specifically about like relationships being boring and
whatnot. There's this this is completely
off base, but it's also related.There was this series on TikTok
about this creator who was making who like he does skits,

(35:40):
right? And one of the skits was about
this woman who just come home and talk to her husband about
what they were going to cook fordinner and how her day was.
And it's like the most mundane things ever, right?
And tons of you could see the difference like women and even
men, but mostly women, all in the comments were just like,

(36:04):
this is the dream. This is this is the dream
because because you're just coming home to talk about
whether it's your partner, whether you know it's your
roommate, your whoever you live with, you're just coming home to
somebody to talk about your day and whatnot.
And isn't that like the most mundane yet wonderful thing?
It's practice. And then we do this exactly 365

(36:27):
days a year. Yeah.
Like, give me a break. Like some of these K dramas.
I feel like that was a really harsh like review of it and.
That was. They probably should have just
dropped it. Some people just don't.
They don't drop drama, so they keep going and then they're
like, really? They hate watch it.
So I don't like hate watching but anyway.
No. We're going to give our scores

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and then we're going to get intothe spoiler section, which
again, this is a very slice of life, mundane drama.
Not much to spoil, but we'll getinto it.
So how many Hoju bottles would you give our beloved summer?
I've been thinking about this just like if it was my first
watch I would have probably beenlike, I don't know, a 4.5 or

(37:15):
something along those lines because I loved it so much.
But nowadays I feel like it's more like a 3.5 for soju bottles
around about that. Probably like a 3.5 I would say
for me. Yeah, I would say about the
same. I think what Liliana said

(37:37):
earlier on just about how like some of the characters you're
just like, I don't, I don't likeyou actually.
So just skip their scenes because you're like, I just, you
know, so I think that was me andmy rewatch.
I was just like, I don't think Iever liked this character.
So why am I watching a scene with only them in it, you know,
and then just kind of skipping through it.

(37:58):
But I still love the message of,you know, finding who you are
again and having that second chance romance and also creating
new memories. But you know, getting to see
those flashbacks with the old and seeing how much they've
grown as individual people and then seeing them grow together.
Absolutely. So I'm going to go on the higher

(38:20):
side because it's it's only halfof soulju, but I'll give it 4
out of five Soulju bottles. That is what I gave it when I
initially watched the show and I'll just go ahead and give it
the same thing now. I think the things that bothered
me back then are probably not the same things that bothered me
now. So it's probably going to shake
out the same anyway. But it definitely made me

(38:41):
nostalgic for a time or a romanticized high school and
university years in a way that Ihave never done in my own life,
which is strange to say, but I don't want to.
People are like, don't you miss high school?
Fuck no, I do not miss high school.
I don't miss college. Like I don't miss that time at
all. But this show is maybe very

(39:02):
sentimental for that time in my life, even though it looks
wildly different for these characters.
And I think this show captured the essence of youth, the
playfulness of it. And these characters are
extremely flawed, but it was worth it to see them work
through their issues. You know, this show has a lot of

(39:24):
like themes of abandonment and, and feelings of inferiority.
Like how are you going to get through those feelings and heal
through that when you still wantto be with the person who that
you're like, messing things up with because of these issues?
So it's tough. I love that the docu series had
the flavor of When Harry Metzali, which is like my

(39:46):
favorite ROM com of all time. It does the same thing as When
Harry Metzali and I just think it had a beautiful vibe.
Beautiful vibe. So 4 out of five soju bottles.
And with that, we are going to talk about spoilers for our
beloved summer. Excuse me, you know I have no

(40:09):
Jingle. Oh, sorry.
OK, we're on the other side of spoilers, so we are going to
spoil whatever is left of our beloved summer.
Like I said, it's pretty pretty simple story set up, but I have

(40:31):
here in episode 1, which is titled I know what you did last
summer. Now it has nothing to do with
the, you know, hook wielding mass murderer like I know what
you did last summer does, but we'll get into this nostalgia
ridden 2011 that they have goingon here, because that's where we
start our story and we find out a lot about our two characters.

(40:53):
Something that was kind of irking me in a lot of the
comments was like people didn't.When I say a lot of the
comments, I mean like all over social media and of course
riddled through this MDL commentreview that I read in the non
spoiler section. People didn't understand why Yun
SU, like, would break up with him in the past.

(41:15):
Like, why even break up? It's been five years.
You know, you've gone through ups and downs, you've broken up
on and off, you're the on and off couple.
And finally you decide to, like,end it.
Why? And in Episode 1, like, we get
so much of their essence and their characters just when
they're doing these flashback sequences.

(41:35):
And he says our male lead says what bothers him most is selfish
people. And she says to rebut that
because they're doing like theseinterviews, like side by side,
it's so messy. So she says people who cause
trouble for others, if you want to fail, then go fail on your
own. Why do you have to drag others
down with you? Which in that moment, she's

(41:56):
doing that as like a Barb to himbecause he's a slacker in
school. He's an academic slacker.
But this comes into play later because she feels that way about
everybody, including herself. She doesn't want to drag others
down to her misery, her level, her struggles.
She considers it a failure if she has an audience to watch her

(42:20):
fail. And so that's literally like
you're given kind of the recent right off the bat in these
little back and forth that they have in the docu series.
And he says, all I want is a peaceful life.
Well, if all hell is breaking loose in her life, why would she
drag her little boyfriend who's really soft, doesn't like to do

(42:42):
any work, doesn't want to have ahard life.
He wants to live a peaceful life.
Like she's not going to drag that oaf down with her.
I, I, you know, I had a lot of grace for her the first time
around and I had a little bit less grace for her this second
time around. Especially her like antics in
the present day. What is what is seen as the

(43:04):
present day. I was like, I don't know, she's
grown, she should know better. But when she was younger and the
reason why they broke up, I totally understood it.
How did you guys feel about their breakup?
I, I think I didn't mind it. And it's also because they are
very, very different characters from each other, right?

(43:25):
Their belief systems are very different and their backgrounds
are very different and they are kind of reflections of what life
has kind of brought them. So it's kind of one of those
situations where you're looking at it and I'm thinking, I don't
agree with you, but I can see why you're making the decisions

(43:46):
that you're making. And that is a very important
distinction to make. A lot of people just like throw,
oh, but I would have done this and I would have done that, yes.
But you don't have the life experience that that character
has. So your actions are obviously
going to be different. So it's definitely one of those
situations where I always think I don't like what you're doing.

(44:11):
I don't agree with it, but I canunderstand why you're doing it.
She was struggling. She was truly struggling, and
she doesn't want other people tosee her struggle.
She doesn't want other people tosee her failing at what she's
doing. So she's.
So prideful she is. She's so.
Prideful. She's so stubborn.

(44:33):
She doesn't want to be vulnerable, you know, she
doesn't want to expose, you know, the weakness facade that
she's doing and the and her weaknesses.
Definitely because she's such a strong character.
And you see in the beginning herbelief system and how she's
like, I'm going to be someone, I'm going to be great.
I'm going to, you know, And thenas things pan out, she's like,

(44:54):
this isn't, I don't want people to see this.
Yeah, exactly. And I think it's even more
obvious later on. This is like a quote from very
much later on. It's from episode 13.
But they've gotten together and everything.
And she just says, I always haveto be more careful at times like

(45:15):
these because misery often comesdisguised as happiness.
And you're thinking, you know, that encapsulates her character,
doesn't it? She's like in.
Fight or flight all the time. Exactly.
Constantly. Constantly and that is very
draining on a person to be like that all the time.
Now imagine having to bring somebody else into that who

(45:38):
isn't like that at all and who is very different from you and
just kind of rolls with the punches.
So you know, I, I completely understood where she was coming
from, even though I don't necessarily agree with her
actions or her decisions. And The thing is like a lot of
people will argue for well, if she had just explained to him

(46:01):
that. Like what's?
Happening. Yeah.
Just communicate, yes. But that is the whole point.
She doesn't want to communicate because she doesn't want to be
in that position. She doesn't want him to see that
from her. So because she's always been
seen as this very smart, intelligent girl who has
everything together and everything like, you know, her

(46:23):
life is all together. So, you know, what is she going
to do? Yeah.
So yeah. There was that flashback
sequence, which I paid a little more attention to this time
around, where I think she had some friends in middle school or
high school who would often ask her to go out with them for
lunch or go to the convenience store or whatever.
And she would always be like, no, no, thank you, it's fine,

(46:45):
thank you for inviting me. But no.
And they would bring her back stuff, bring her back a little
like banana milk or what have you, little snacks that she
could have. And she overhears them one day
talking shit about her and saying, oh, so she never says
yes to to coming with us. And then she never gets us
anything, even though we get hersnacks and we get her all these
things when we go out. And she never gets us anything

(47:07):
in return. And there was another girl in
that group that was like, yeah, but we never like, she doesn't
ask us to bring her anything from these stores.
Like we're just doing it of our own volition.
But there is this recipe. The concept of reciprocity is
brought up here, even in the flashback sequence where she
cannot give what is customary orwhat what is, what is seen as

(47:30):
like the bare minimum for other people in society.
Like there should be a give and take.
And if they bring her something,she should also bring them
something the next time. And she doesn't.
She's so poor that she can't even do that in middle school
and in school. And that plays out in their

(47:50):
relationship, too, because he isvery giving toward her.
He is so sweet toward her, and she never reciprocates in the
same way, shape or form. She does it in her own way.
Like, they have different love languages, sure, but when she
has to kind of like shore up hergrandmother got sick and then

(48:11):
her uncle's debts are being called in and they like overturn
her entire apartment and things are going haywire in her life,
she totally can't reciprocate anything that he could have
given to her in this time period.
She doesn't like to owe people. Yeah.
I thought that was a very important scene and I don't know

(48:33):
if you guys picked up on any other little things that really,
you know, spoke to her character.
I think you can see where she's coming from, You know, even the
scene when right before they break up, right, And you get to
see her practice in the mirror saying to him, I want to break

(48:54):
up with you. And it's just like she had to
say it so many times in front ofthe mirror so that she would be
able to carry that out, to say it to him without any emotion.
And then she turns around and you can see all the emotion kind
of hit her at once. And I feel like that's what she
is. She hides a lot behind all of

(49:17):
these walls that she builds, andit's really, really difficult to
get through to her. But he does it in, you know, he
kind of just blunders his way through kind of life.
Disarms her so easily and he doesn't even realize he's doing
it. So it's just kind of what's
special about them, Becky. Liliana, when you said that, it

(49:39):
just made me realize. So you said she had to practice
it so many times in the mirror to say it.
Do you know who else practice something so many times to do?
Our man, when he was going to spray water and throw salt, they
were like he practiced so many times to do this.
And I just do. That that's true.

(50:02):
That is true, yeah. But she's really pitiful I think
in her younger years and also kind of hard to like because she
is so gruff. She is so aggressive and her
grandmother says being hot tempered is a must when you're
poor. Don't let others look down on
you. It's armor.

(50:23):
It's all armor that she needs tosurvive because people are even
when she wasn't even doing anything.
People are like talking shit about her, you know, Just her
manner was upsetting to them andpride and keeping what little
dignity she had was was everything to her.

(50:45):
I thought that was important. And she's so petty.
I love that she's petty though. Yeah, I like that she's petty.
It's the best part and and then they're both petty to each.
Other they are. Petty.
It's like a petty off, like I love it.
Yeah, I think he is really pettyas well.
That's that scene. And I think there was a story in

(51:06):
episode 3 which is called 10 Things I Hate About You.
It's like uncovering. All of the little things that
make them horrible, it's one I'mjust going to drop that that's
one of my all time favorite movies.
Just. It is I.
It's a good. I love 10 Things I Hate About
You. Loved it.
I do too, but he's petty as shitbecause when he was a kid, he

(51:29):
was trying to get back at the second male lead, the other own
character. He was like, oh, I'll give him
shaved ice with Peaches on top because he's allergic to
Peaches. Hello.
They're both allergic to Peachesand they both get sent to the
emergency room. And this like is a huge like,
you could say it's a red flag, but it's also just like he is so

(51:51):
petty that he's willing. The second male lead says he's
so he's a type who's willing to endure his own pain if it means
he can make others suffer just as badly, if not worse.
And the fact that he himself wasalso allergic to Peaches and
eating shaved ice with Peaches just to get back at this other

(52:11):
guy. I mean, honestly, that and
that's him as a child. Yeah, he gets so much worse as
an adult. He grows.
It's like grows. Yeah, yeah.
I will say I do appreciate the fact that the pettiness never
goes away between them. It's like a constant and I
really enjoy that because it makes the relationship fun and

(52:36):
it makes their banter really good between each other.
Yes. So yeah.
Yeah, I like that there's nobodyin his drawings.
He never draws people. And when they ask him about an
episode, when he says, I love things that don't change, but
people change or disappear over time.
That's why there are no people or time in my works.

(52:56):
Which is a very beautiful poeticthought.
But it also stems from he was abandoned as a child and he
doesn't like impermanence and thickleness of people and the
way that he can just be abandoned.
And the breakup was really severe for him.
But it's because he has abandonment issues.

(53:18):
Yeah, and The thing is, a lot ofpeople will crap on our female.
She didn't know any of this. Like she don't know, no.
Idea. She had no idea this was a thing
because like, his mom speaks to her and she says to Yongsu, he
took the breakup really, really badly.
Like, he took it really badly. And she's like to her, you know,

(53:44):
it does affect her as well. It's just in different ways than
it affects him. He kind of almost shuts down.
And, yeah, whereas she just diverts the energy into
something else. And it's just different ways of
dealing with pain and with life.And I think that's a thing that

(54:06):
this show is actually quite goodas well.
Is that like showing how people deal with different situations,
You know, And this one's quite obvious about that.
She's also very selfish. And I feel like that plays into
they were together for five years and she never delved into
his childhood, never asked abouthim growing up, maybe poked

(54:28):
around in such a way where he would feel comfortable with
telling her, hey, I've had nightmares since I was a child
about being abandoned in the streets.
And I know that whoever I am looking for is not my parents.
And, you know, I know that I'm adopted.

(54:49):
But also, like, if you look on the other side, it's what we
were talking about earlier aboutbeing reciprocal.
And I think she doesn't poke because she herself does not
want to be poked. So I think that's sort of the
biggest things about her character.
And what it is, is it's not thatshe doesn't want to know.
It's not that she doesn't like him.

(55:10):
It's not that she doesn't love him.
It's that she herself does not want to talk about her past.
And if he talks about it, then there's going to be, you know,
or if she digs into his, then there's going to be a want for
him to, you know, for her to reciprocate that.
And she doesn't want to do it. So I, I think that's what it is

(55:33):
about, you know, those characters.
And I also feel it was just a couple of episodes where they
were going into their each. But especially him, he's very
avoidant. He loves to run away from
things. Anything that's hard, anything
that he doesn't feel like doing,he just ever since he was a
child, like they show that flashback scene of him like
literally in a tree sitting in atree to get away from doing a

(55:56):
presentation in front of the class.
And I think, I think the thing that sticks out to me the most
is that he didn't want to deal with the plagiarizing rival
artist in like the beginning of the show.
And to me, that would be like #1on my To Do List would be
takedown of this dude who's likeinfringing on my copyright, on

(56:18):
my artistic integrity because he's swearing up and down that
he originated this style or thathe started at 1st and that I
copied him. All these lies, all this
slander, and I would not let that slide.
He was letting it slide. He was.
Yeah, I think that really shows.I mean, he's very avoidant, but
so. So can she be when they both met

(56:39):
at the library because they weretrying to avoid each other, Yes.
Like, but yeah, I feel that, yeah.
I quite liked Speaking of the artist, the plagiarizing artist,
that he was going to go to the opening party or something for
for that company or that project.
And Taun doesn't have a suit. So he goes and enlists NJ, the K

(57:05):
pop star to help him buy a suit.And I just love that little
shopping trip. I thought it was so cute that he
was like, yeah, I got to go do something, don't worry about it.
And like on his own goes to get the suit and figure it out and
he shows up looking fresh and like hair off of his forehead
type of deal. I just liked it.
I thought it was so cute that hewas like, I need to be a grown

(57:25):
up. Yeah, no, he literally, he was
like, let's do this. Yeah, exactly.
And then just, I think that embarrassment and betrayal that
he felt when that artist was there at that same event, and he
was like, hey, we're going to behaving like that friendly
competition and I guess we'll figure it out then.
And he's like, what, you're doing this project, too?

(57:47):
And it was so rude, so horrible of that other guy.
Disrespectful. Disrespectful.
But yeah, a couple of those characters.
It was Eden Thiok who plays likethe leader of that project or
whatever. He has had a really good year.

(58:07):
He was most recently with Soji sub in that drama Mercy for
None. I think he was in that.
I still need to watch. That So do I, so do I.
He was in love scout, Love scout.
Yeah. Like my heart.
Artist Nua was played by quack Dong Young, who of course has

(58:29):
been in a lot of things. I don't even know it's OK to not
be OK. He was like the flasher.
He won. The fact that's what you're
like, that's the name, that's the title.
He was, but that's because I watched it several months ago
for the podcast. It was also in Vincenzo.
Yes, thank you Vincenzo, which is also we have an episode on in

(58:53):
the feed, but a lot of collecting Pokémon kind of deal
in this show. She hates being poor.
And in episode 6, we get a lot more of that.
And I think it was interesting to see how he approached school,
which was very important to her.And like, she helps him get in
to college even though clearly he's not the student type at

(59:17):
all, not the academic that she wants him to be.
But, you know, she helped him get in and he helped her loosen
up, you know, loosen up in life,be a little less severe to
everybody, even though she is like, naturally so abrupt and
mean to people. They would, Oh my God.

(59:37):
There's like a little scene, I think in episode 6 as well,
where flashback scene, he shows up early to her house and she
comes out the front door and he's just there looking all like
eager and sweet and awkward. And he carries her book bag.
Do you like remember that? Yeah.
Scene. Oh my God, I don't know.

(59:58):
I don't know. Him taking some weight off of
her book bag as she's wearing it.
It's just adorable, yeah. It's adorable.
But he was just so unbothered and everything about everything
about her was she was bothered by everything.
True. And he just wanted this stress
free life, wanted to bask in thesunlight.
And then she is on the struggle bus.

(01:00:20):
I think that was a huge reason why they broke up as well, is
that she saw him kind of gettingthings handed to him right in
school. There was that professor that
was like, hey, like go on this study abroad trip.
I'm going to recommend you for it.
You know, you can level up your art and all this stuff.
It's going to be really good foryou.
It's a super lucrative opportunity and he was just not

(01:00:43):
interested. He was like, leave the
opportunity for somebody who really wants it.
He had no no interest in turninghis passion for art into any
kind of vocation, any kind of paying gig.
And meanwhile, her greatest ambition was to live an ordinary
life like everybody has, get a job, make enough money to

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support her grandmother. And I think like to to add to
your point, it shows like because he can fall back on his
parents, right? He has that could she fall back?
Whereas she sees school as the only way to get out.
School is going to be her only option to make something of a

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self. And that's why she takes it so
seriously, because this is like her one chance.
Yes, seriously, one only way. Yeah.
Whereas he he could literally have a cushy life.
His parents own all of these places like his parents.
And his parents don't push him to care either.
His parents are just like, we just want you to be happy.

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They are like, you know, whereasfor her, she doesn't have
anything or anyone to fall back on.
She has to do it herself. So yeah.
Exactly. I thought it was a little like
she crumbled when he said she was like, oh, I'm applying for
jobs. I got to find a job and all this
stuff and he was like, oh, I thought you'd do something more

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than that. Implying her dreams were pretty
small, but she had a small mind about what she wanted to make of
herself and what she wanted to do for the rest of her life.
And it was just to be like a company woman to get a full time
gig and not have to worry about money anymore.
And he was like, oh, that's it. He was a bit judgey.
He was a bit judgey on this, yeah.

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I do want to say though, what you touched on before saying
that he helped her loosen up andshe kind of helped him to in
ways to like kind of grow up andstart being an adult and stuff.
But there's a moment I'll never I I just love this moment where
like you see these flashbacks and he is just like, can we do

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this? Can we do this?
Can we? And she's like, Nope, I'm busy.
Nope, I have to do this. No, I'm doing that.
But then you still see those moments where she takes the time
to show she cares. And that's when he's like, oh, I
want to see the cherry blossoms.And she's like, no, I have
something else to do. And then she sees him sitting
there and opens her hand and it's just a bunch of cherry
blossoms falling on it. I.
Mean she had to go and collect the cherry blossoms she.

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Brought the cherry blossoms to him to give him that experience
because she was too busy and shehad too much to do.
But she still wanted to make himhappy and show that she cares.
Yeah, I agree. That was a really magical moment
because she doesn't have a romantic bone in her body.
Absolutely 9. Like if my boyfriend was like,
let's go see the cherry blower. He's so sensitive.

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He's such an incredibly feeling individual.
He's so obviously a creative. Artist.
He's an artist. Like, he's sitting there by
Lamplight drawing building exteriors to the tune of
Christmas Tree by V. Like it is the most, like,
surreal, dreamy thing you can think of.

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And she's over here, like, goingto her marketing agency job
every day. And she's like, it's pretty,
it's pretty sucky, but at least it pays the bills, You know,
They're two very different personalities.
She's very pragmatic. And he's just not.
She's like, I'm busy. And he's like, let's go see the

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cherry blossoms. It's the last day to see them
and it, you know, I, I think if I was her, I would have
obviously gone to see the cherryblossoms with my Taylor chic
boyfriend. But you know, it's, she had
other priorities. Their realities, like Liliana
said, we're very different. But opposites attract.

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But he did make her feel small and she had a crazy inferiority
complex that she could not shakein her younger years.
So I like that she talks about her job, though in episode 6,
she says it's not demanding enough to challenge me and not
exactly fun either. So basically saying she's

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unfulfilled working this dull job, which is I think what he
was getting at when they were younger.
And she would say, oh, I just need to apply for a job.
I just need to get a full time job.
And he was like, that's it. Because it was never going to be
fulfilling for her, right? It wasn't going to fill her cup
and that's what he was getting at, but he said it in a really

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mean way. I thought he was like, that's it
anyway. Her friend though, which I wish
there was more of. Her friend.
The pub owner friend. Yeah, she was fun.
She was. Fun.
She had a great perspective and she saw right through that
bitch, she said which this is the female lead quoting her
friend. She says you said that.

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My eyes looked empty and soulless.
There was nothing in them. And I was like, oh, have you
ever had a friend tell you your eyes were soulless?
That's. Pretty.
No, and I hope I don't. That is a crazy ass friend.
And then she's so friends with her.
And she was talking about the look in his eyes when he was
doing the art at the exhibition at the opening of that like

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building or whatever the hell, and she was saying his eyes were
so animated. They were so full of life.
You could feel all this passion that he had and she was jealous.
And she says while he was working on improving himself,
there I was, stagnant and busy making ends meet with the
soulless eyes of mine. Yep, even I would think I'm

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pathetic. So she was having a little pity
party, but she was on to something with that.
Even though he was a bum in their younger years and he had
no drive, no passion for any money making endeavor, he did
end up turning his passion into a career and he is incredibly

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fulfilled, passionate about whathe does everyday.
So I thought that that was really a tangible moment where
she was like, wow, I need to work on myself.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
I love character growth. Yeah, I like that.
I think at the end of episode 6,which I guess I had a lot of

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notes for, episode 6, he goes toher house and she's a little bit
drunk. After having this like
revelation that she's so unfulfilled with her day job.
He basically asks her how she's doing.
He's like genuinely like, how are you doing?
And it makes her cry. Yeah, because.
She probably doesn't remember the last time somebody else did

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that. And like actually meant it.
And I feel like that's such a relatable thing to real life,
isn't it? Because people, a lot of people
in your life will ask how are you doing, but they don't
actually mean how are you doing?Like genuinely, how are you
doing? Tell me.
And that's a real there's a difference.

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There's definitely a difference.So I think him asking and
specifically coming from him, itwas like, especially after her
having all of these realizationsthroughout the episode, she's
just like, I can sort of break down.
She feels free enough to sort ofbreak down in front of him.
And I think that's such a big moment.

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Yeah. She's also drunk.
True, true. She's also drunk.
But even saying that, it's stilllike for her to be able to do
that, to be even a little bit vulnerable, was really good to
see, I think. Yeah, I agree.
I'm going to skip ahead to episode 8, which is the before

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sunset episode. And what happens is there's this
random sun shower. It's a vacation episode where
they rent the house in the forest and again random sun
shower and he shows up to rescueher with an umbrella and they
finally kiss in the rain. But this you need to like set up

(01:09:01):
this kiss scene because this cinnamon.
Scene OK send them to me. So first of all, I feel like
they've been building this tension for episodes now.
And I feel like this is where itall blows up.
And it is a culmination of ridiculously good acting in this
scene. And the directing in this is a

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chef's kiss. The fact that they're like kind
of almost arguing. And they are, you know, they
kind of step closer. And he, she says to him, do you
want me to go? And she repeats it a couple of
times. You're like, do you want me to
go? And he does not reply.
Like he just kisses her. And it's the first time.

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Not only that, we see that kiss.We see every single before was
in a montage and it's so, so unique.
I had never really seen anythinglike that.
You know, you have the crooning in the background and I'm just
like, Oh my God, I, I this to meis one of the best scenes in the

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whole show. It is the scene that I come back
to and then as soon as I remember our beloved summer,
that's the scene I remember because it is just so incredibly
well shot. The rain shower.
It is perfect because you have the culmination of the rain with
the sun with them, with the OST.It is just stunning, like stun.

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It is a honestly one of my favorite scenes in the whole
show. I agree, it was so beautiful, so
well done. They purposely left out the
kissing. That's what I was just going to
say because. Every single flashback, like we
are seeing these parts, but we're we're just seeing these
parts and that's what we're taking them in.
But then we see every single flashback, every single scene

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that we saw. There's like a tender, beautiful
kiss that they omitted. From us.
So we wouldn't know that that's what if they like we're
bickering and arguing and then they they have a kiss
afterwards. We we didn't see that.
We just saw the bickering and now we're starting to see this
love that they erased from all those Smash backs, which is
rude, but also it was such an amazing.

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You kind of had a feeling that they were there.
Phenomenal. Yeah, you.
Kind of had a feeling that they were there, but like it was
something else to see them all together in that montage, just
one after the other. And it is like coming to me.
It was like coming home, you know, like for them to, they
haven't touched each other in that way in like 5 years or

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something like that. They're now grown different
stages in their lives and they have all this drama, all these
things left unsaid and then theyjust kiss and it's like comes
flooding back. It has to be similar for them,
the characters, this experience that we are getting as the
audience that like they're trying to push all of these
intimate moments outside of their brains and not remember

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all the good things, all the good parts of their relationship
because they're mad at each other and they're petty and, you
know, they're just flawed people.
But as soon as they let go and you get this kiss in the rain
and all of these beautiful little kissings come back and
it's so tender and again, like the smell of youth all over it.
It's beautiful, beautiful. The shift in the show, it's like

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the biggest, I would say it's like the biggest shift in their
relationship and it's like a damn breaking all at once, I
think. Yeah.
That's so yeah. I I I Honestly it is one of my
favorite. Scenes really powerful, Really
powerful scene. Really powerful editing that
they did there. He basically friend zones her

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after that. Oh my God and how petty she is
with that is my favorite. It was so fun to watch her be
petty like. I agree she was like challenging
him and calling his bluff on being friends and staying over
his house and stuff and he lovedit.
He loved her being there. Something that stuck out to me
and I'll remember it forever is when she leaves in episode 10.

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She leaves the house finally. He tells her if you leave now
you can still catch the bus and he gives her the bus number and
tells her not to walk home because it's already dark
outside. It's late and she goes outside
and he immediately turns on all the exterior lights for her on
the House and then rushes to thewindow to see her walk down the
street and make sure that she's OK.

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I like lost it. I like lost it.
It was so cute. It's like these little thing,
these little tiny moments, that little things.
Like when he's like, oh, I she'slike, I'm going to stay longer
and he's like, oh, I have nothing to do today.
And then his person calls him, he's like, you have an interview
you have to go to. And he said, cancel it.

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Right now. He's like, Nope, nothing to do
nothing because he just wants tospend time with her.
But they just, they're both so Idon't even know, guarded.
They just, you know, they don't want to get hurt again.
They just don't want to admit that they still have those
feelings. It takes like a really big push
for them to finally do that. And I think also they just don't

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want to be the first to admit it.
That's why neither of them, neither of them are ready to
take that step in that, you know, in that point.
So yeah. Yeah, like he just is so whipped
for her. So whipped.
So whipped. I will say this show does
something that I really, really appreciated with like NJ's

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character because we've talked about like our main, but like
specifically with her. Yeah, the K pop star.
That's in the K pop star. The thing that I really enjoyed
was, I think episode 10, I'm just checking.
Yeah, episodes 10 is when like, obviously they have this rumour
that, you know, he's dating her and they have like this candle

(01:14:57):
and whatnot. And that kind of shakes you on
Sue a little bit because she's like, oh, there is other people
that really appreciate him and see him for what he is.
But what I appreciated was the scene that so she's in his house
and NJ kind of comes over and they have this conversation and

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you think she's going to say, yeah, you said you think she
like NJ is going to say that they're dating, that she could
just lay back on that. And then you see, you know, in
the epilogue or a little bit later, you see her saying,
that's what I thought I wanted to say, but I'm not going to say
that because that's giving him like, he would love for us to be

(01:15:39):
fighting about him. And that's not what we're going
to do. Like, let's not fight about him.
And I really, really appreciatedthat because that could have
gone in such a different direction.
NJ was like being the bigger person at every step of the way
and being. Truthful.
Yeah. First, it was a little blunt.

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Like at first she was just a very blunt character.
I will never forget her introduction where she's like
I'm used to being everyone beingexcited when I show up
unannounced. Yeah, cuz she came to the. 1st
for me, yeah. And I'm like, I don't know, but
I, you know, we can appreciate someone that, you know, can be
honest in the end and get some character development.

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Yeah, I also like the scene where she has that boot camp or
the malicious commenters. That was yes, that was a
beautiful like just seeing all of that because we get to see a
side of her, you know, we never we never saw.
All these people trying to get out of charges, You know, in

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Korea, it's illegal to post malicious comments about
celebrities. They will take legal action
against you. And she was like, Oh, well,
maybe if I rub elbows with thesepeople and they see that I'm
like a genuine person and we do some, like, community service
together, they will learn the error of their ways.
And I can drop the charges and, you know, spare them, give them

(01:17:08):
some rehab, basically character building rehab.
And it was not what she intended.
Like, they were not learning from their mistakes.
They were still really awful. And I love that she's like,
well, prepare to be sued. Like, Oh well.
Yeah, I didn't mean beautiful inthat way.
I'm like the fact that she, you know, it's hard to know that,

(01:17:32):
like, these people aren't going to change.
But I think she really needed tosee that because otherwise she'd
be thinking, oh, well, if they just met me, they'd like me.
But that's just not the case. Not everyone's going to like
you. And I think she, she needed to
see that. But it was nice for her to,
like, stand her ground, but alsogot to see that character depth
of her. Absolutely.
She's vicious and I was all for it because I was like, why give

(01:17:54):
them even a shot? Like just sue their asses.
That's me personally. But anyway, especially if I had
like an agency that was footing the bill, Just sue them.
I what's I got to do with the price of tea?
So he runs into the grandma and she gives him a little spiel of,
you know, don't blame my yon SU,like if she's cruel or selfish

(01:18:18):
or she's mean to you. Our family was poor.
My family was poor. So I taught her to be selfish.
And his response like through me, I had to pause a show.
He said she's so brilliant. It's like I don't deserve her.
Like if it's not that I don't want it.
He is so. Sweet on her, Yeah, He loves her

(01:18:40):
so much. I know.
And this is the episode where they finally just lay it all on
the table. She says I can't be friends with
you, like we're not going to do that.
And he says I really miss you. Ku Kun Su, I always missed you.
When you came back into my life,I kept feeling angry for some
reason, even though you were finally back, I resented you so

(01:19:01):
much. But I think I know the reason
now. I guess it was because I wanted
to see you love me. I wanted to see you love only
me. Keep loving me.
Don't let me go. Keep loving me.
I beg you. Oh my God.
Smitten. This is episode 11, yes.
And also, can we just touch on the fact that this show, there's

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something really well and that is like symbolism and they kind
of tell his story through like the little dog from the the
corner shop and how the dog never wanted to go outside
anything. Oh my gosh, yeah.
And I thought, I thought personally, that was really
great symbolism for him because he then goes back and he sees

(01:19:49):
that the dog just needed time togrow.
And that's exactly what he needs.
He just needs like a little bit of courage to kind of, you know,
reach out for what he wants. So I I thought that was, you
know, really, really well done for for episode 11.
And obviously that's the. The episode that we also get
some of his. Abandonment.

(01:20:11):
Yeah, abandonment. And like, it really hits her why
the breakup truly tore into him.And you know why he needs to be
constantly reminded that people are there, so to speak.
Yeah, in episode 12, which is called Begin Again, which Begin

(01:20:32):
Again, like if you actually watch these movies, you're kind
of like, this has nothing. This doesn't really.
They just like the title. So anyway, Begin Again.
I love the moment when he kissesher on the floor in the street,
which ill #1 and awe #2 because I love how we see all of their
past kisses Again, really tendermoment where she is trying to

(01:20:54):
comfort him. He's having like a little
breakdown in the street and finally telling her that, you
know, he was abandoned as a child and he's had nightmares,
you know, ever since he was a child about this abandonment.
And I love when they're back at his house.
She says she doesn't know how tocomfort him.
She's like, I don't know how to make you feel any better.
But he says she's doing it rightnow.

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She's helping him right now, just being with him and
listening to him. And it's such a picture of
intimacy between them because his head is on her lap, their
hands are entwined, and she's stroking his head almost like a
mother would. Like, she's very kind of
motherly to him in a couple of moments in the show.
And it's super, super intimate. I love this picture of them.

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And this is when he says, like, I can't sleep usually because
he's been struggling with insomnia the whole show, except
when she's by his side, which I think bothered the MDL reviewer.
But you know, she's the source of comfort for him.
It's not just that as well. He's codependent on her.
No, it's just that he feels safe.

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He feels safe to be able to, forlike when we sleep, it's when
we're our most vulnerable. So obviously if you're
surrounded by somebody who you trust completely and you feel
safe with, sleeping is going to be much easier.
So I understand where they come from.

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And like that is what happens ina relationship in general.
Like in real life, you're going to feel way safer sleeping next
to the person you love and you find comfort in and you find
safety in. Then you are sleeping by
yourself. I think it just makes sense.
Like I don't understand where that comment was coming from.

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It just make to me it just made sense.
I agree. Yeah, I love this episode
because he couldn't wait for their weekend date.
So he shows up on her walkthrough of this seaside
Convention Center, this Art Center.
I don't even know what it is, but her face when she sees him

(01:23:03):
and then him like turning around.
He was hiding. He was so cute.
And then he like kind of turns around and you see his sheepish
face and the slow MO walk over. Taiwo chic looks really good in
my notes. I have in all caps like the two
corn dog scene that's. That's my favorite.

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It's so cute because she's I think she kisses him on the
cheek and he's like holding 2 hot 2 corn dogs, one in each
hand and he asked her to hold a corn dog.
He's like, hey, like hold a corndog.
I'm like dying to like hold you right now basically.
And she's like, no, she plays Felicia's.
No. So he transfers 1 corn dog to

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the other hand and grabs her by the waist for this free hand and
pulls her in for a kiss. And I just think it's again
like, sue me. It's really cute.
He's a romantic, I know. I can't.
I can't. It's just life, like just living
their life. She tries to change for him I
think in the next episode, whichis the Love Actually episode.

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She does all these things to like spice up their
relationship, change her personality, be different so
that they won't keep fighting like they did before which
initiated their ultimate breakup.
She's wearing cutesy clothes, laughing at everything he says,
which doesn't make sense. And it's this very shallow idea
of love that her Co worker gave to her because the Co worker is

(01:24:27):
younger and she's like, yeah, this is what I do to like hang
on to a man. And the female lead is self
aware. She says, like I, I nag you a
lot and we know each other really well.
I don't want it to be boring or predictable being together.
But sometimes relationships are boring and predictable.
That's the that's the whole point.
And I think she learns that obviously, because he's like,

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what the hell are you doing? He's like, what the hell are you
doing? What's going on?
What's this character that you're doing?
And he responds to her, but thatperson doesn't know you.
There are so many people like you who are always different
each time. You always feel new and
different. You're different from when I saw
you yesterday. And I'm like, Oh my God, just
stop. It's too much.

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It's like a sack of puppies. Just cuteness overload.
He says, I like you for who you are.
I know. I like that you always have new
things to nag about. They're so cute.
They're so cute, yeah. Do you guys have any other
favorite moments or things that you want to chat about before I
get to the second melding? I think I talked about them all.

(01:25:31):
Yeah, I think I I covered everything that I wanted to
cover. I don't necessarily like the
cliched like in the final two episodes, like the grandmother
gets sick on the night of his exhibition.
Hate that? Oh my God, with the art gallery
I hated that they have a two year time jump.
Is it necessary? No, but there is a standard

(01:25:54):
happy ending and then I think they get greenlit for another
documentary about their married life, which who is not going to
press play on that if it was like a real thing.
True. What did you guys think of the
second MO lead and did you have any complaints about him?
Because I felt like he was the weakest link of the whole show.
I agree. Like this time around, this time

(01:26:15):
around, I was just like, I don'treally care.
I'm so sorry that you have a sappy sad story.
I'm really sorry that, you know,you keep comparing like you have
an inferiority complex because Ithink that's what he had.
This man, our male lead, like hetreats you like a brother, like

(01:26:35):
literally he shares everything with you.
And I can also kind of understand where this guy was
coming from because he was like,well, yeah, he shares it with
me, but it's never truly mine. But the male, he just like
openly shares stuff with him, like even his parents.
He's so giving. It's like how how can you sort
of? And he never really hates on him

(01:26:57):
or anything like that, but I just found him.
I don't know. I could take him or leave him if
that makes sense. Like he does nothing for me in
the show. He's just pining for his best
friend's girlfriend slash ex-girlfriend.
And I'd like I understand, you know, he probably feels guilty

(01:27:17):
about it, but like at a point itjust gets really, I didn't enjoy
watching his scenes because it'slike, dude, just get over.
Like I can't handle this right now.
Like. It's so tedious to watch the
second melee, especially on thisrewatch.
I was like, oh, I am not drivingwith this man at all.
I thought there was something annoying about the way that

(01:27:40):
Kim's long trial played it. I thought he had zero
personality. There was nothing there at all.
And they sort of like write it in a little bit that both the
second male lead and the male lead tune are like very similar
in that they both are kind of stoic.

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They're not kind of active participants in life and all
this stuff. Once he gets a girlfriend, which
is Jones to the female lead, like they diverge.
They have totally different waysof going about life and I just
didn't like at all the way that Jiang was constantly stuck being

(01:28:25):
in love with the male, with the male lead, with the female lead.
Plot twist plot. Twist in love with the male
lead. That would have been a great Oh
my God. That would have been a really.
Great, that would have been a great plot twist if he was
actually in love with. But they have all of these
moments that I thought deepened their relationship between the

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boys, which is really unusual for male relationships.
I thought where almost like a love and basketball kind of.
Have you guys seen that movie NoLove and Basketball?
I haven't OK. But you would love love and
basketball, Becky. Oh yeah.
I'll write it down. Right, yes, you would definitely

(01:29:06):
enjoy love and basketball. But anyway, that's a throwback
sports romance from like the late 90s, I think.
But anyway, that in that sense where these two people are
neighbors in this show, Cheung the mildly just like inherently
knows when he needs to chat whenTeung like needs a buddy to hear

(01:29:27):
him out. And they have like, this montage
scene of him sleeping over them,chatting into the night and then
like, giggling and like, just having this really deep
relationship that I thought wasn't so deep in execution.
Yeah, yeah, because the whole time, I mean, he's literally,

(01:29:48):
he's stuck in the past. Just.
I don't even know if I'd call itlove or like admiration.
It's just a weird pie name that he's just, he just wants.
I don't even know what he wants but it's annoying.
Yeah, like, I don't get it. I don't get it.
After all of these years, you'resaying you haven't gotten over
this girl? And the fact that Yongsu has

(01:30:10):
absolutely no clue that this manis head over heels in love with
her or like, obsessed with her, also baffling to me.
I think it just shows that she'sso selfish.
She only sees herself and what she cares about.
She's. Clueless.
She's fucking. Clueless.
It makes no sense. It makes no sense how she can't
pick that up. Especially that scene when she
goes to see some of the footage at night in the editing room and

(01:30:33):
he's kind of like, he's just like a vibrating like presence.
And she is so obsessive with herself.
She's very self absorbed. They go to eat afterwards and
she's like, why don't you look at me?
And he, my man's is struggling because he knows there's no
shot. He has no shot with her.
She has no clue that he has feelings for her.

(01:30:57):
It's gut wrenching for the second male lead, but also what
is going on in her head that shecan't pick none of this up?
She is very self absorbed, like she's like she can only see
what's wrong. But two, the male lead does pick
it up. He watches a little bit of that
footage that the second male lead has edited and he's like,

(01:31:19):
oh shit, my best friend is in love with my girl.
He picks it up immediately. That's true.
So they have like this weird deep relationship.
When you see them in the same room together, you're like, but
actually like, where is it? They can talk deep into the
night and like, they have littlesleepovers and they've been in

(01:31:41):
each other's lives and they share a set of parents
basically, but there's so such achasm between them.
It just felt weird. Yeah.
And the second male lead just seems so obtuse again about his
Co worker, the female editor like also having like a deep

(01:32:02):
crush on him. Yeah, it's almost interesting
because like, you know, she is clueless, but so is he.
Yeah. Like what?
What's going on there? I.
Don't know, it's just and then Idon't know.
It was just very annoying. I was more interested in his
relationship to the male leads family and how, you know, that
was very sacred. But also he felt like it was

(01:32:25):
borrowed. Yeah.
We don't really like it was his 9/9.
So a lot. I feel like I had so many more
issues with the second male leadthis time around than I did the
first time around. Anyway, he finally draws her the
male lead. Finally.
Draws her. So that was beautiful.
Yeah. It was so nice to see that.

(01:32:45):
I know because it meant so much hate to see that.
It did. I did enjoy the fact that they
get married, but we don't see them getting married.
It's just, it just sort of happens.
I do actually kind of enjoy thatin the grand scheme of this
drama because this drama is not about those big events.
It's all about the small little things that add up to a

(01:33:08):
relationship. It's the everyday.
So yeah, I I really actually appreciated that.
Yeah, because things always justhappen in their life.
It's just almost so like their wedding just happened and us not
seeing it. I mean, it makes sense.
Yeah, but that's the end of my notes.
I don't really have anything else to add to our beloved
summer. It was a nice, pleasant watch.

(01:33:30):
I watched it like one or two episodes a day until I was done.
Same, same. Nice.
Well, actually I binged a lot ofit.
Oh. Yesterday I did binge.
You guys, I have a confession tomake.
Oh. Oh oh.
In my rewatch, I did not get very far.

(01:33:50):
I didn't. This is all muscle, this is all
memory. When I say I didn't get very
far, I think I got to episode 3,but I remember so much of it.
But you've rewatched it many times.
Five times. This was the first time I've
rewatched it so I really. Need yes, the first time you
heard. Yes, the first time I've
rewatched it. I watched it in dub because I

(01:34:12):
was trying to like get another listen.
I was I I regret, I regret it, but I had so much other like I
was like, I can't, but also I don't want because because you
know, so first of all, it's terrible because all of the male
voices sound the same every single like like our male leads
talking to his best friend. He's like, hey, man, what's

(01:34:34):
going on? I don't know, man, not.
Much and I'm like. You guys are the same person and
I'm going to scream. But then I tried watching it
speed up because I thought that would be helpful.
Not in dub, you know, but then that was just really not.
So that's my confession. I did rewatch it, but I also
I've watched it way too many times to a point where it's just

(01:34:55):
like, you know. Becky, no one's going to come
for you with a pitchfork over this.
It's fine. It's fine.
But it's it's I still I still love the drama.
I just definitely think, yeah, Idon't the second male lead as
soon as I saw him on the screen and he paused the video and he's
just looking at her. I'm.
Like on Under the Hood. Go away like why are you even

(01:35:18):
admiring her like that? Like you guys don't even have a
any type of what she said hi to you once.
Ah I can't but I still like the drama a lot.
But also this is me just tellingeveryone don't ever watch a show
in dub. Don't watch a show in dub.
Even if you have to multitask, even if you have like other,
don't do it do. That to the drama.

(01:35:39):
It'll ruin your life. I thought that was kind of
engraved in people not to watch stuff in dub.
OK, I have my attention span when it comes to like I've been
watching Prisoner of Beauty and that's like really, you know,
like action. So when it comes to like slower
shows, I still haven't checked out the best thing.

(01:36:00):
I still haven't checked out any of like the slower slice of life
dramas because I just can't. I have to be multitasking or it
has to be super riveting for me to pay attention to it, which
means I need to fix my attention.
Span I'm That's another thing that we all need to fix our
intention spans. We're all screwed because of
social media and scrolling on TikTok and like double timing

(01:36:22):
everything we want. Scrolling.
My God, dumb scrolling. All right, all right, anyway,
we'll continue this offline. Thank you so much for coming on
the show and for talking about our beloved summer and
rewatching 3 episodes. Becky, I really appreciate it.
I knew you were going to come for me.
You said you weren't going to judge.

(01:36:42):
I'm not. Just faked it.
I could have faked it all but I appreciate you guys and I wanted
to be honest I. Super careless when I can't re
watch a show or I re watch it ondouble time or what have you.
It's just hard. It's.
Just doesn't catch. You're fine.
Just doesn't catch. Also, this is this is not her

(01:37:02):
being you should see when she gets judged.
Yes, this is. Definitely a little more biting.
No, I'm being really. Yeah.
Playful and facetious. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it. Becky.
Where can people find you online?
Oh gosh, so I have a TikTok and Instagram, Don't sue Rebecca,

(01:37:23):
and I have a podcast that has been on hiatus accidentally for
eight months called Drama Detours, but if you wanna check
it out, you can. Liliana, where can we find you
online? So you can find T and Soju
podcast on Spotify, Apple podcasts, Amazon Music, wherever

(01:37:45):
you get your podcasts. And then for the socials, it's T
and Soju podge, all one word on,you know, Instagram, TikTok,
blue sky. I think that's it.
Thank you, guys. Thanks again for going down
memory lane with me, our belovedsummer.
That's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been

(01:38:06):
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