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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, episode with
Dan Cianci, host of the Daily
American Podcast.
We're going to pick it up wherepart two ended.
Thank you for listening andenjoy.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And then they all get
together.
Let's get this guy.
It's fucked up.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, because if this
girl's on there and this girl's
on there, she say she just sawDeshawn, somebody else will say,
hey, I just saw him too.
Let's link up and say he tookadvantage of us.
Now other girls fucking pile onA lot of times.
He's got settled.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
They all come out of
the woodwork right.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I hate the pile on
woodwork.
Shit, you're a fucking adult.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Kick a man when he's
down.
Another one comes out of thewoodwork.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Shit and then they
try to figure out how can they
avoid that contract.
He's behind and he's like oneof the top highest paid
quarterbacks in the league,right.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And it's a guaranteed
contract.
I think all of them.
I think he's like fifth orsixth?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I think all of
them are guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
if I'm not mistaken,
he was benched what?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
four games last year,
and then he came back and sunk.
Or did he not even get a chanceto start again?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, he got hurt,
right, didn't he hurt his?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
shoulder yeah, I
think you're right he was
suspended for like four.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Then he came back,
got hurt and then came back at
the end or something like that,right?
So that's two years in a row,he got hurt yeah, and stroud's,
stroud's good, stroud's realgood yeah that money guarantee.
When you're paying somebodyguaranteed money you got to to
play them.
Can't have somebody sitting onyour bench making all that money
.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know what I mean.
Well, that's the conversationwe're going to have.
We're going to do an all-sportspodcast, too, with him, and you
know how this works.
Now, man, I'm on your side.
What you was talking about,what we were talking about on
Twitter, about Trevor LawrenceTrevor Lawrence, I'm on your
(02:05):
side.
But you know, with this day andage man, they signed you to a
contract for potential, not thestats that you did before.
And if it ain't him, who?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
else.
I don't care about the who else, because I would rather pay a
rookie or a young guy chumpchange than pay a guy that's a
third-year starter that got alosing record.
That ain't do shit.
You know what I mean?
Now Trevor Lawrence is now thehighest-paid player in the NFL,
not until, well, what are youtalking about Right now?
Now, somebody else signedanother contract Right now
(02:37):
Trevor Lawrence but he hasn'tdone shit.
He got more interceptions thantouchdowns.
He ain't win no playoff games.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He ain't throw no
money.
He won the one against theChargers.
That was it, chargers right.
One playoff game, yeah, Ibelieve.
Remember they were down like28-0?
The comeback game.
I had the Chargers in that gametoo, and, of course, look what
happens.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The comeback game.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, what I'm saying
is they had weapons around him.
Extend his contract.
You didn't have to extend himFirst off.
He's under contract.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, they extended it,
but I wonder if he had a good
year this year.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
He's been a starter
for three years now, right, Okay
?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
let's just say he'll
have a good year this year.
You know the contract is goingto be more than what they paid
him, right?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Was he on his last?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
leg of his contract.
I think he may have.
It might have been this season.
If it wasn't this season, itmay be the next season.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
All I know is they
didn't have to resign.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
No, they didn't
Extend them, like you said.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Extend them and make
them the highest paid player.
Now, right, you got thesefucking dudes that won
championships, that fuckingdominate the league and these
guys making more than you.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, he have a good
season.
Right, that contract is goingto be more than what they just
paid him, so the so the Jaguarsgot off easy, would you agree?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
No, why wouldn't you
agree to that?
Because even if you have a goodyear, that's only one year and
four.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Jalen Hurts had just
a good season and they paid.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That's a big age
difference.
That's not even the same thing.
Jalen Hurts only been a starfor two years.
This guy been a star for threeyears.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Oh, a year difference
.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And Jalen Hurts got
you to a fucking second round.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
yet but he still had
a bad year this year.
Every year is a bad year.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He had one solid year
out of his three years Like
look at the numbers.
I sent you the numbers.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, I've seen the
numbers.
These numbers are trash.
I'm on your side, but I'msaying that in this day and age
of NFL football, they're goingto sign a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I understand what
you're saying, what they're
doing.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
What I'm saying is
what I wouldn't have done then
you wouldn't be there too longbecause the the owner is going
to say you could assign him forless less.
You could have extended hiscontract for less money than
what we're going to have to payhim now.
Now you talking about payingsomebody so what have you paid
him?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
and made him the
highest paid now and his money
is guaranteed and he stink upthe rest of the way, the next
six years.
Now you're still on the hookfor that money.
For six years you can go, butwait, you're saying what if he
have his breakout year?
Right, what if he don't?
Okay, I'm not taking that gamecan't they dump them?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
they can dump them
all.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Of it has a guarantee
, wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
See, this is the
thing.
I don't understand all thecontractual shit and I need to
learn this stuff.
But you're saying how much ishe guaranteed?
Like $200-something million andthe entire contract's what?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I don't think he's
guaranteed that much.
You can pull it up.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
All right.
So say he's guaranteed $100million and it's a $200 million
contract.
They can dump him and get ridof the $100 million.
But regardless, they can dumphim today and they still got to
pay the $100 million.
They can't push that off to thenext person, they can't
negotiate it.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You can make a deal
with another team to say we'll
pay part of the salary.
Can y'all pick up the othershit like that?
You can do something like thatif another team really want them
.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, he's getting
paid regardless.
But another team could pick upthat money if you're really good
at fucking selling them.
But he's got to be willing toRight cap space and all that.
I don't understand any of it.
I never got into it.
I never fantasy, I don't do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But Well, what the
cap space is?
They had to do that that way.
The richer teams can't just buyall the best players, the
cowboys can't.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It's like the Yankees
how the Yankees used to get all
the time.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Don't they still do
that?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Is it a salary cap in
baseball or?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Okay, well, look at
the Phillies Right.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, they grabbed
all those guys and they're
killing it right now.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yep, I don't really
want to talk much about the
Phillies because our Philly teamthey either start off bad and
at the end come good, like theydid last season.
This year they starting offgood.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That ain't good.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's not good.
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So that's what they
always do.
All our Philadelphia teams, allthe Philly teams, always do
that.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I'm a Steelers fan.
By the way, we were Steelerswhy?
Basically, my pops was born inItaly and he grew up from nine
years old.
He grew up in an orphanage overthere until nine and then at
nine he was adopted over hereand his adopted father worked at
the country steel mill.
They got that big steelersemblem, yeah I think that's what
(06:50):
did it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He's a contract once
once a contract is a five-year
extension for 275 million.
That makes him the highest paidplayer in the nfl.
200 million is guaranteed.
That's a lot.
You know what I'm For a dudethat ain't proved himself yet
he's probably top 14.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay, but if it ain't
him, who else I don't give a
shit who else.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I would grab a
fucking rookie or a backup
that's in the league right now.
Until I find that rookie,that's going to be good enough
Shit.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
call Blaine Gabbert
back up.
No.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I understand it.
I no, I wouldn't.
I understand it, I wouldn'thave done it, but I understand
it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's the whole
point.
See, you're understanding it.
I understand the league and howshit goes.
What?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
are his stats?
Can you tell me his stats?
Please tell me his stats,because I gotta see how he's
real strong on this one.
He must know these stats.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
This guy.
I pulled him off the RoyBecause.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I just wanted to know
, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Lawrence, trevor
Lawrence, be on some bullshit.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Now are you going
three years or just last year?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I looked at all his
years.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But let me see, was
we talking in the feed or was it
like one-on-one?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's what you're
looking up now.
That was in the feed, if it'sgoing to take.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
His contract is for
275.
Yep, but I guess if he hit Allhis fucking incentives it could
be 282.
That's a lot of fucking money200 million guaranteed and 142
million Is guaranteed at signing.
As soon as he signed that shit,oh my god, so they already gave
him 142 million.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
That's the way you
gotta.
His agent Knows what they'redoing.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
He's a fucking man,
right?
Yeah, yup, I don't know whereDid you say it was in a feed, or
?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, it should be thereBecause you brought.
You brought up the stats.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Or a rough estimate
or whatever.
Is he that big Cause?
Look at Allen.
Like Allen Allen, he'sobviously top what three.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Try not to put up big
numbers.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Josh, josh, josh.
Yeah, yeah, I don't see it overhere.
He puts up big numbers.
He's probably top three, if nottop two.
Right, you got Mahomes him.
Who else Burrow?
He gets hurt?
Who else you got?
I mean, the quarterbacks arelike tough nowadays.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Just because it's
tough to find a good one, don't
mean you gotta pay your fuckingaverage when the highest paid
contract Well you don't know ifhe's average yet or not.
His numbers say he's average.
So far he's average.
Well, how old is he?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, he did how many
years at Clemson?
He did four.
He's probably like 25, 25.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
He'll be 25 this year
.
Alright, so he played 3 years.
His career record Is 20 wins,30 losses.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
His first year he was
3 wins, 14 losses.
The next year he was 9 and 8,and then last year he was 8 and
8.
Damn, he was only 8 and 8 lastyear His completion percentage
First year was 59%, the nextyear was 66%, the next year was
65%, the next year was 65%.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The average is what
like?
68%, 69%.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
The average should be
around 65% 66%.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, so he's
completing some passes, but go
ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Total yards 3,600 the
first year.
Second year 4,100.
Last year 4,000.
Touchdowns His first year hehad 12 touchdowns, 17
interceptions.
Led the league first year.
Second year he had 25touchdowns, eight interceptions.
Last year he had 21 touchdowns,14 interceptions he's
(10:14):
digressing after that secondyear his quarterback rating was
71 the first year.
The next year was 95 and thenlast year it was 88.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's total QBR.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, that was his
rating.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
His.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
QBR was 39 his first
year and then 56 the last two.
He played two playoff games.
He won one and he lost one.
Completion percentage 60.
Five touchdowns, fiveinterceptions.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That was that game, I
think what was that last year.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That just says two
games yeah 2022.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That was the game
that you were talking about when
he threw all the interceptions,but it came back on one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, so his numbers
are like fucking trash the
numbers ain't really trash.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's not trash
numbers.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No, no, no, no, no,
that sounds trash.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, to me that's like
middle of the road Pull up.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
CJ Stroud.
He's younger.
Pull up CJ Stroud.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
What I'm saying is he
played 50 games and only won 20
.
That's trash.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
What does that entail
?
20 and 30?
That means you're a loser.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The Jaguars has
already had a bad team anyway.
Your quarterback Okay, so theJaguars probably have a better
defense.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Last year they were
stacked Travis Etienne, they got
.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Calvin Ridley.
He got hurt with the 8-8.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
8-8,.
No, if he didn't play, theywouldn't have it over here.
No, he played.
He got hurt.
He played 16 games out of 17.
Right, he played majority ofthe games.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I don't hear bad
stats.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
There are bad stats.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
What do you see?
That's bad.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I just told you His
1% is bad.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
1% is bad.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
There's a whole team
Interceptions to touchdowns.
That's the team.
No, he's the quarterback.
He's throwing these touchdowns.
Qbr should be in the 80s no youbrought up the record, that's
the team.
This is a win-loss record.
As a starter, the team, theteam game, not him.
It don't matter.
You can say that for anything,the bottom line is those games
he started.
He only won 20 out of the 50games he started.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
But the team is bad.
Has Jaguars ever had a goodteam?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like my man just said
, he got weapons around him.
You need to make it work, buthas Jaguars ever had a good team
?
I'm not trying to hear that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, they did they.
I'm not trying to hear that.
Yeah, they did they did.
When they beat the Steelers inthe playoffs not too long ago,
who the hell was theirquarterback?
Some bum Brunel, brunel, theywere real good Brunel and Fred
Taylor.
That was like 94.
Curtis Martin Was Curtis Martinon that team.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Once you find your
elite quarterback he's supposed
the team with Trevor Lawrence onthe team.
Did he win you a couple ofgames just for Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Here's the question
how many times has he been
sacked?
If he hasn't been sacked thatmuch, then that all falls on him
.
If his O-line's trash okay.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So his first year he
got sacked 32 times.
The next year he got sacked 27.
Then the last year, 35.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But what's the I
don't know, the I don't know
like how to compare?
Is that a lot?
I mean, I don't know who getssacked, the fucking lot Our
quarterback Ah there you go.
Yeah, like how many Jalen Hurtshave.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Who did you want me
to compare him to CJ?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, cj Stroud yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He's already got a
higher ceiling trajectory than
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
He does Good
quarterbacks also make weapons
around him.
Look at CJ Shire.
He made some weapons around him.
He does Like Rodgers Rodgers,always making a weapon around
him when he's actually playing.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't like his
attitude sometimes, but he's all
right.
So CJ Shire, his quarterbackrecord is 9-6 as a starter.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, he's a rookie.
He was just a rookie last year.
Okay, okay, maybe badcomparison, because he's brand
new.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, 23 touchdowns,
five interceptions that one year
is already better than allthree of what's-his-name's years
it is yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Is the team better?
He's making it better Okaythat's true.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
The Texans made the
playoffs.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Right, so the Texans.
The Texans made the playoffs.
They won a playoff game.
The Texans is better thanJaguars.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
The quarterback
rating was 100.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know what I mean?
100, yeah, that's like good,that's like the best
quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Right, I think the
top is 118.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You want to be like
90 or above, probably even
higher than that.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Probably 95 or better
.
That's the max I think, right,I don't know.
A quarterback rating.
Yeah, is it or no?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Perfect rating, what
is it like?
158 or something?
Oh, it's up there.
It's up there, but not for aseason.
Nobody has that perfect ratingfor a season, but, like you said
, 118, that would probably leadthe league.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know what?
I?
Yeah, he's young too.
He's short too, isn't he?
Wasn't he just getting shit forhis height, or nothing?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
No, you're talking
about the Carolina Panthers.
What's the Carolina Panthersquarterback name?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
That's who you're
talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh yeah, who is?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
it.
I forget his name.
That's who you're talking about, and they said he couldn't see
over the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He's not doing too
good, though right Did he
couldn't see over the offensive?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
line.
He's not doing too good, thoughright Did he get hurt?
I think he may have gotten hurtlast year, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Who's coming out of
the draft?
You guys got to keep me up onthis.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I'm not really big on
college football.
I always just ask him who'sgood and not See.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't like this
because they got some bullshit
here.
I want the quarterback ratingswho led the league, but they got
these guys that didn't throwenough passes to qualify.
You got a receiver over here.
That's bullshit.
You should stick to the legitquarterbacks, alright.
So Where's this guy at here?
What are we looking at?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You said ratings,
yeah just to see who led the
league, or whatever.
If I had to guess, I would saywho won last year Mahomes again.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Mason Rudolph had the
top rating Get the fuck out of
here At 118.
He called it 118, but how manygames did he play, mason Rudolph
?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That don't count,
because he only played four
games, yeah, but thisquarterback rating doesn't mean
anything you got.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Purdy.
Let's say Purdy would be numberone.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay, at 113.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Dak Prescott 105.
Cousins 103.
Lamar Jackson 102.
Tua 101.
Stroud 100.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
What is making these
guys low interceptions?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Well, you get your
rating from a combination of
everything.
You complete your percentage,your yards, your touchdowns,
your interceptions.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
What do they divide
it?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
by.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't know how they
like determine it.
I think they take the number,they divide it by something I
can't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's just crazy.
I haven't heard Allen orMahomes Hold on, and you got all
these other scrubs up there, solet me tell you where they at.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Mahomes quarterback
rating is 92.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
And what's Javion
Love's?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Love is 96.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Uh Packers.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh Jordan Love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Javion, you're making
up names Shit.
Jalen Hurst was 89.
And Trevor Lawrence was 88.
Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So who's the worst
Out of the 32?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And he got money too
right the worst quarterback on.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
there is Mason
Rudolph, that's for sure you
talking about starters.
Yeah, I guess the top 32.
You talking about Bryce?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Young.
I see him all the time, bryceYoung is the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, he can't see
over the line.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Bum Jones.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Jones.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Jones, who's Jones?
Mike Jones.
Jones, for the Patriots oh not,jacoby Jones, mac Jones, mac
Jones, he's a bum too yeah,what's the other stat?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
we were looking at s
Sacks.
You wanted to see who gotsacked the most, because what
did he?
Get sacked 27 times or 35 times.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, a decent amount
.
So what is that?
That's like twice a game,that's not too much.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So Zach Purdy
literally getting sacked at 72.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
70.
Damn.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Brock Purdy, brock
Purdy.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And look at that dude
, the Niners.
A terrible offensive line, itseems like.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, Dak Prescott 72
.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Goodness gracious.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Allen 69.
Lamar Jackson 64.
Herbert 64.
Matt Stafford 63.
Cousins 63.
Pat Mahomes 63.
So this dude got sacked 35times.
He's not even on the high endof getting sacked.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They just want some
bullshit.
That's different because mostof those quarterbacks are
running quarterbacks and that'sdifferent because most of those
quarterbacks are runningquarterbacks and they can say it
like that Purdy Dak.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Those are not runners
.
Purdy don't run, he's not arunner, he's not a running
quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Occasionally, he'll
take off for 30.
I've seen it, but he's not arunning quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
No, go ahead, go
ahead, dak Prescott.
He's not a running quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Nah, he's not.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'd say he averages
less than 15 yards.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like Lamar and Allen,
you caught him running
quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Mahomes, mahomes,
mahomes.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
He's a pocket passer,
but he definitely takes off,
and when he takes off he doesdamage.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Justin Herbert, Matt
Stafford Cousins.
Those are not runningquarterbacks, no, but they're up
there and getting sacks.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Man Herbert, that guy
costs me so much money.
Man that coach Staley so muchmoney.
I like the Chargers.
I like them on paper.
I always bet them the past fewyears.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
He had too many good
teams to not be better.
You know what I mean.
Like too many weapons aroundhim and not pulling these wins
up and putting points on theboard.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Herbert, or Staley
Herbert.
Yeah, but the coaching.
On this one, I'm telling youthe coaching had a lot to do
with this.
He's this young-ass dude.
Probably has no leadershipcapabilities, making the worst
fucking calls ever, going for itwhen they can kick the field
goal like just the dumbest shitever and costing them even in
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
There's always a
coach that you'll see that think
they're better than with thenormal route.
I'm going You're in the fieldgoal range in a close game.
You kick the field goal.
You don't go for it on fourthdown.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And they'd be like
yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
They'd be like fourth
and one.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I'm going for it.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Kick that fucking
field goal.
If they get it, they say oh theballs, the moxie, get the fuck
out of here.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Take the field goal,
because if you don't get it, you
haven't even won a playoff gameyet and you let your team, like
your team's, not motivated, togo kick their fucking ass in the
second half.
It's a leadership issue.
They're lackadaisical.
They don't give a fuck.
Obviously they're just going topull the brakes off or it's
fixed.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
One or the other.
Well shit, look at the guy forthe.
Who was that?
The Falcons?
What was they up 28 points athalftime.
Still lose to the Patriots comeon fucking throw the ball.
Talk about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh my God, Mattie Ith
, oh my fucking God, this dude
man.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He's throwing pick
sixes.
Why is he even throwing theball?
You're up by 28.
Run the fucking ball.
Only throw it short if you haveto.
You know what I mean.
And they fucking blew that game.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I swear to God, I
called that one and I bet it
this way too Patriots win thegame, but they lose the first
half.
That's what I bet that.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's great and it
makes you think the game is
rigged, like what the fuck isthis coach doing?
Then he turned around and blewit again.
Who was he now with the 49ers?
He turned around and did thesame dumb shit yeah wait, wait,
wait.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Who was the coach?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think Shanahan.
Yeah, is that the one with therare skins?
Kyle, shanahan, him and his popwas with the rare skins.
Yes, yeah, that's who it is.
He did some dumb shit last year, was he the coach?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
or was he like the
coordinator Of the Atlanta and
he was the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And he was calling
the plays and shit.
You know what I mean.
You're calling all these passesgetting fucked up, getting your
quarterback fucked up when yougot a 28-point lead.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Sometimes I wonder if
they just pick these players
right.
I wouldn't say LeBron being onein the NBA.
He's a phenomenal stature.
He's really good at basketball.
He's definitely not a Kobe andhe's not a anyway.
He shouldn't be talked aboutwith the GOAT.
But that's neither here northere.
When it comes to Brady, youever think that they just pick
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these guys.
But that's neither here northere.
When it comes to like Brady,you ever think that, like, they
just pick these guys.
Like a good underdog storydrafted last.
They love that shit and Seattlelike you know, the Seattle.
Super Bowl.
That was it he was done.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Give the ball to
Lynch, but they throw a pick or
they'll pick a guy and this guycan't fail, and I think the next
guy that's coming up, what Iwas just talking about, is
Peyton Manning's nephew.
Archie, archie Jr, I think he'sgoing to be on commercials and
(22:14):
all that stuff when he gets inthe NFL.
And that guy, they're going toput him in a position where he
can't fail, because look at hislineage.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah.
But another good thing aboutthat kid he doesn't participate
in anything.
Social media Nothing.
I swear to God.
If it wasn't for trying to dosomething a little bit with the
podcast, I'm off social mediatoo.
Done Because it doesn't doanything good for you except if
you're trying to build something.
That's it.
I utilize it as a tool and Iutilize it like an asshole
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sometimes, but that kid's smart.
No, social media, no.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
For now, until so he
make it to the league and then
people get in his ears and saythis is how we're going to blow
you up.
You want to make more moneydoing social media, doing more
commercials?
I guarantee you are there any?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
stars who don't do
social?
Let's think, are there any ones?
Does kairi participate a lot?
Who kairi?
I know he does like his, his uh, I'm a kairi fan but I know
know he does like his low-keylike protesting with his
sneakers and shit.
I respect it.
He can do whatever the fuck, hewants with his sneakers.
Put anything on there, as longas it's not hating on somebody
and I don't think he's not ahater.
They just they take him andthey misconstrue what he says
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his messages.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
They do want to turn
him into a bad guy, and he's not
really like that.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
like that
Anti-Semitic and shit.
Nah, he's just a genius, he canlook at multiple perspectives
and sometimes he can'tarticulate that and it may come
off bad.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Going back to what
you just said about, lebron
shouldn't be in Go Conversation.
That's bullshit, no fucking way.
No way.
The dude played 20 years at ahigh level.
No one ever done it.
That alone nobody's supposed tobreak Kareem's record.
He broke Kareem's record andeverybody said he's not even a
scorer, he's a pass-first guy.
That alone puts you in a GOATcircle, not saying you is the
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GOAT.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He's number one in
scoring ever.
Yes, how many years did he play21,?
I think, how far off fromJordan?
Jordan's not second, no, I know, but how far off is he compared
to years played?
How many years did Jordan play?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
15 or something.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's five extra
years, I bet he.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But Jordan's last two
years was bullshit, Like he
wasn't dominating.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, but the league?
What with the Wizards?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yes, he wasn't
dominating.
Of course that's his thing,yeah, he wasn't.
So after 13 years, jordan wasdone, but LeBron after 21 years,
he still gets.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You gotta remember,
though he took a couple years
off.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That should go
against him actually, because
those are years.
His body is rusted.
That's like our boy in the NFL.
He played baseball, though.
Ricky Williams took off fromthe NFL and then came right back
and was in the top five inrushing to get him.
Because that's wear and tear onyour body.
It's easy.
Baseball don't have the samewear and tear as NFL I mean NBA
On your knees and shit and yourfucking feet.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Was he playing pro or
just he was like in the minor
leagues?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
He wasn't a Deion.
Deion played actual likeplayoff baseball.
Deion Bo Jackson, they was prosBo Jackson yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Those were big time.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I got a bunch of
their back there too, do you?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I just sold an AI
Rookie cards, ai signature one,
because I don't know, I justlike selling shit on eBay.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I got a LeSean McCoy
signed a rookie card, but he's a
big kid and it's probably notgoing to be worth nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, it's tough with
somebody like that, but if you
had a Jordan I remember havingthem when I was younger my dad
must have pawned all those, orsomething.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I got Jordan cards,
but I don't have nothing signed.
I just got the Eagles from whenI was a kid.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, but if you got
good Jordan cards and they're
like if you have a Jordan rookie, you're eating.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
All right, dan, we
can talk forever too.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I know, I know, I
know, I know, this doesn't
really seem like a podcast.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That was just us
talking.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's
how I like to do it too, and it
seems like you guys do too.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
So what's your social
media All?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
right.
So I got it's going to be atDaily American Podcast.
That's Instagram and then mypodcast website's going to be
dailyamericanpodcastcom and youknow we're going to have to get
this up on the website one wayor another.
Some of these episodes, butyeah, some traffic comes through
(26:12):
, people listen through there,but it's not doing anything.
No crazy numbers.
I think, like you know, acouple thousand people reach
hold on for a second.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think Phillip
wanted to say something about
the all time leaders of scoring.
I knew that's what you weredoing.
Well, he asked You're the kingof stats.
That's why.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I'm giving you props.
Stats don't lie.
It's fucking official.
There's no made-up shit withpeople.
He's better than him.
Well, the stats say otherwise.
This is just scoring.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's what you asked
.
Yeah, but how many times is heshooting?
You know there's so manyvariables.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, if that's the
case, kobe Bryant is shooting.
Kobe Bryant is shooting, goddamn.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Kobe's number four.
Kobe gets some more bonuspoints because he's you know,
he's up there Because he's agunner.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Because he's upstairs
, because he's a gunner.
Oh, you're showing him lovebecause he's upstairs.
The dude is a gunner.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You better come back.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I used to always tell
Roy.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh, and I got these
drones on.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I used to always tell
Roy I like the Kobe's dad.
What's the Kobe's dad of KaganClark, where those are fives or
sixes?
The Bruce Lee's?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I honestly don't know
, I just know that they look
decent on her.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, but I used to
always say Kobe is nothing but a
taller version of AI.
Yeah, Because they shoot theball 30 times to get you 30
points.
That's like so inefficient.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but the excitement behindAI, he may have been one of the
most exciting players ever tostep foot on a court.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But he wasn't a
winner.
His team, who do you have?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm going with his
team.
Shit Boy, you got it, Eddie.
I will say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yo, you know what
else about AI 14, 14 years old,
rode my biker, walked to the carwash, first job on paper W-2.
And he comes through, him andDikembe Mutombo came through
because it's right there in themain line, near the Philly
Country Club.
There was a car wash rightthere.
You know where I'm talkingabout, right where the Wawa's at
in West Country Hocking.
You go over the bridge rightthere.
So Duke's Firehose it wascalled.
(28:02):
So he rolls through in a RollsRoyce, I think a Phantom, and
he's in the back seat suicidedoors.
He's got a Red Chiefs hat onwith a white do-rag.
He opens the door to saysomething I dried his car off,
you know, probably saying likedoor jams or something Didn't
tip.
Dikembe slides through in ayellow H2.
(28:23):
There's a 16 or year old girl.
You couldn't tell she lookedolder, but he did tip and he got
her number.
Those are my two stories aboutthose guys.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
A lot of people say
AI just was a jerk and didn't
tip people.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
See, that's crazy.
He's a gambler too, man, yougotta know about karma.
You gotta know about karma.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That've got to know
about karma.
That's why he wasn't tipping,because he was like fuck that I
can use this tip money to gamble.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Now go ahead, dave.
Finish your social media beforePhil pays.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's
pretty much it.
Just Instagram and Facebook youcan find me.
Either are my name too, danCianci, I kind of, and both from
the same thing, and that'spretty much it.
My email info atdailyamericanpodcastcom.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
All right, you can
reach the Judgementals on
Facebook, tiktok, Twitter at P&LJudgementals, instagram at
the200scoresjudgmentals, or youcan email us at pnljudgmentals
at gmailcom.
Sorry, yes, I remembered allthat.
I've done it a hundred times.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I just want to thank
you guys for having me on today.
Seriously, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, this was cool.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Good catching up, man
, yeah because it didn't really
seem like it.
It was just us talking prettymuch and we ain't even getting
like half of anything bro.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
No, we got to do some
more.
I think we got to do some more.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
We should go to the
studio here.
The studio ran out of corn, Idon't know how much it is.
I'm tired of recording thissong.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm video recording,
Alright then Alright, y'all
Peace out.