October 30, 2024 • 17 mins
Tyler Feller, a Christian-based YouTuber, shares with us as he recounts his journey from a modest upbringing in Missouri to a life enriched by vision and leadership in Nashville, Tennessee. Tyler's insights draw a compelling parallel between personal experiences and biblical teachings, highlighting the transformative power of collective faith. As we explore the unique spiritual climate of Tennessee, including a statewide initiative for prayer and fasting, Tyler sheds light on the role of Christian influencers in reshaping both personal and societal landscapes.
We also tackle profound spiritual themes alongside Tyler, exploring the importance of forging a personal relationship with Jesus over adhering strictly to traditional religious structures. By unpacking the complexities of differing religious beliefs, we offer a reflective look at the exclusivity of salvation through Jesus, prompting listeners to consider their own worldviews. The episode further dives into the biblical story of Abraham and Sarah, delving into the consequences of seeking counterfeit solutions instead of trusting in God's true promise. Join us for an enlightening conversation about the power of faith, vision, and belief in both personal transformation and community upliftment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're back with the Daily American.
I want to welcome everybodyback to the show.
Thank you guys all forlistening, subscribing.
Make sure you guys check outour YouTube.
We had our first full podcastsince, one that I had to put up
on YouTube due to my man JimmyKern's physical conditioning or
condition having muscularatrophy.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But last week we had on becca slider and today we
have on with us mr tyler, fellertyler welcome so, man, thanks
for thanks for having me, dan,so looking forward to getting to
know your audience and share alittle bit of my story yeah,
absolutely, man.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Um, let me tell the audience at first.
You know he's got a prettysignificant youtube following.
I know, know it's Christianbased, but he also gets into
some political stuff.
Go ahead, tyler, speak foryourself.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, we just try to cover, like true crime, current
events, political stuff from aspiritual, biblical perspective
and help people kind of gettheir bearings from a common
sense approach to the world thatwe're in today, which honestly
we need.
Things are crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, things are definitely need.
Things are crazy.
Yeah, things, things aredefinitely off the chain.
Man, it seems like the book ofrevelations kind of coming
together a little bit, but I'mdefinitely you know, I got to
study up on a little bit, youknow some more to actually make
a statement like that, but itseems like you know the world's
in disarray, but why don't youkick us off with your childhood?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
instead of we'll getting straight to the
depressing and fun stuff, we'llstart with your childhood and
then where you were born I wasborn in arizona actually, but I
grew up in missouri, a smalltown of about 244 people
literally more cows than people.
So it's not right when you're akid your best friend's a cow
growing up.
It's just nobody should have togo through that but very, very
(01:48):
economically disadvantaged.
At the time when I was growingup as the eighth poorest
congressional district in theunited states, poverty almost
like a spiritual principality ofpoverty kind of reigns over the
region and um, there's a lot ofdrugs and things like that, and
so it it's kind of a difficultplace to grow up, but a lot of
people do well and make it outand successful and education
(02:12):
helps a lot with that.
So Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How'd you so so explain to me.
Like poverty wise, is itcountryside.
It's countryside right,obviously, if there's always
your best friend to count.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, it was in Southeast Missouri.
It's very rural, in thefoothills of the ozark mountains
.
Beautiful country, honestly,like very beautiful lots of
rivers, some lakes.
I mean it is definitely god'scountry.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
From that standpoint it's very beautiful but as far
as socioeconomics um, what doyou think contributes to the
poverty?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
yeah, I don't, don't know.
I just think lack ofopportunity, lack of major
infrastructure, there's no majorcity around to help develop the
economy, there's things likethat that obviously contribute.
And then I think, anytime thatthere's growth in a society,
there has to be people withvision.
The Bible actually says withoutvision, people perish or people
die.
And when we walk with a visionwith our life, we walk with a
(03:06):
vision for the people around us.
It uplifts, it encourages, itbrings life and I think it's one
of the most powerful thingsthat you can do.
In the Old Testament there was atime where the Babylonians came
and everything that they knewthe Israelites at the time about
God was consecrated into justthis one central place.
The Israelites at the timeabout God was consecrated into
just this one central place.
(03:27):
And the Babylonians came andknocked out that whole temple,
basically, and ransacked thevillage and left them empty.
And Jeremiah writes a letter tothem as a prophet and he said
you need to take heart and careabout your city, because the
welfare of your city willdetermine the welfare of your
people.
And so he encourages them topray and have a vision for their
city, and I think that that hasa lot to do with it.
It has to be visionaries incities and regions to help bring
(03:50):
life.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's pretty awesome .
So now you made the move toTennessee.
How'd you get away from yourhometown?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I went off to school and, just you know,
started having other experiencesand follow opportunity and felt
a draw to nashville inparticular, where I live right
now.
God's doing a lot of amazingthings in nashville and the
state of tennessee is anincredible state.
The governor actually declaredthat the month of july is a
month of prayer and fasting forthe welfare and prosperity of
our state.
I don't know any other statesin the land that are doing
(04:24):
things like that and, like amagnet, god's been calling
Christian influencers to move toNashville and be a part of
what's going on here and you cansee it's obviously trickling
its way through the governmentas well.
I mean to have a governoractually make that stance that
the whole month of July for thestate is dedicated to praying
and fasting to jesus, so that wewould get revelation on and
(04:46):
protection and guidance on onwhat he.
What he has for us in this nextseason is pretty yeah, man,
that is pretty, that is prettyawesome.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now, that is that the governor.
Again, I tell her honestly, Ihaven't paid attention to I
recently had lost my notrecently, but a few months ago,
I lost my job.
Since then I haven't turned onthe tv, I haven't paid attention
to politics.
I haven't really done um, and Icertainly haven't been
connected with god as I shouldbe.
But, um, the political, thepolitical stuff, is that the
(05:15):
government who's making somenoise because he prayed in like
the, in congress hall orsomething, or no, like, like in
the middle of like the senate orsomething, or am I talking
about something else?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I think you're talking about something else.
I'm not familiar with whatyou're talking about, but I
think that when the Bill ofRights gives us the freedom of
speech, that even electedofficials should have the
opportunity to share their faithand pray and believe that God
can show up and do somethinggreat for our nation.
Our nation has a providentialhistory from God.
It was founded on principlesthat we find in scripture, and
(05:49):
we need to be the kind of peoplethat partner with what God had
destined this nation to do,which is to bring hope to the
world around us through missionwork, and we've seen God bless
this nation because early on,there was a deep commitment to
faith.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, when you say God wanted us to be the nation
of hope.
Where does that come from?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, you just, for example, think about what nation
in the world has sent moremissionaries around the world
than any other nation.
I mean the United States isthat nation.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
They fund more missionaries.
Yeah, I didn't know that that'sawesome.
That's pretty cool.
Do you do missionary work too?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
What is your?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
denomination.
Now, what's your denomination?
What is it?
What's your denomination?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I'm a part of a denomination called General
Baptist, just a small Baptistdenomination.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't know the difference between.
What's the difference betweenBaptists?
And say I mean what was thefirst Christian religion,
catholicism.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much how it started.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I guess I was going to ask what's the difference
between Baptists and I don'tknow, non-denominational
christians or lutherans orcatholics or you know all these
different?
That's one thing that kind ofconfuses me.
I think it confuses probably alot of people.
There's so many differentchoices.
I mean christ, at the end ofthe day, said when you pray, go
(07:24):
into your room and shut the doorand I and I, you know, and he's
with and he's with us.
Now I get it.
It's good to have community ofpeople, but you can do that in
multi-facets, like this is acommunity right wherever two are
speaking to my name there, I amright, so he's definitely here
with us right now.
I don't the the actualstructured religions.
That's something I don'tparticipate in today.
(07:47):
I'm not saying I won't in thefuture, but it's just.
It's just.
I don't, um, but I'm certainlya sinner and, like I also don't
participate in a lot of thingsthat worse, I also do a lot of
things when we're technicallynot supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But I guess I think you're making a really great
point that we can just forgetabout all that stuff like Like
denominations I don't think aresuper important, the whole
infrastructure, I don't thinksuper important.
At the end of the day, jesushates religion, in my opinion,
and instead he desires arelationship with us.
(08:20):
Religion's often about rulesand building barriers that
prevent people from having adeep relationship with God.
When Jesus came so that wecould have a personal
relationship with him, and sothat's what I kind of major on.
I don't try to get too muchinto the semantics of it, but
just try to help people actuallyencounter God, have an
experience with him, and thenthey can foster and grow that
independently.
It's kind of like what you saidgo into the prayer closet, spend
(08:42):
time with him.
Jesus desires your heart.
Jesus wants you to hand overall the tough stuff Anybody
that's watching right now hasever been through.
You can hand it over to Jesus.
He'll take it, he'll handle itwith care.
The Bible actually says thathis burdens are light and easy
and ours are heavy andburdensome, and we can give him
our burdens.
We can give him these heavythings that we've been carrying,
and he'll actually take themand give us his in exchange, and
(09:07):
so we'll take the light burdensof Jesus.
That's what I want to be, andthat that comes from intimacy
with him, spending time in theprayer closet with him, getting
to know him Exactly what you'retalking about Relationship over
religion.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, relationship over religion, that's great man.
Yeah, my buddy says the samething.
My, my, my best friend growingup.
Actually, uh, he's likecompletely made the change.
His story's actually in mypocket, I'll send it to you.
But he's made this switch over,or not the switch over, but
he's just completely gave hislife to Christ and is very known
, like you could tell, like he's.
(09:39):
You know he's not doing thingshe used to do and you know it
takes a lot of courage and ittakes a lot of discipline.
And you know, sometimes I don'tknow if it's an excuse or what,
but I lack, I lack.
I have a lacking of probablythe discipline at this point in
(10:00):
my life.
Or you know, also the my here.
Here's where I get.
Also, tyler, I get kind ofconfused um with and it's good
to have somebody like yourselfon there, it's knowledgeable and
everything but other religions.
I know you don't get into thesemantics of them, but I asked
this question to somebody before.
(10:20):
And if you're sitting whereyou're at right now, right, and
your next door neighbor is aMuslim and unfortunately a
nuclear bomb comes and you'reboth wiped off the face of the
earth, do you think that you goto paradise and that that person
is not going to paradise, or,and that's if this is a scenario
, though, they've lived, they'vehad a closer relationship with
(10:45):
their God than you have withyours, and it's like like but,
but but and like but, other thanthat, equal, equal lives.
You know, you both give to yourother neighbors.
Everything else is the deedsand everything are equal,
everything's equal, except foryou guys are.
Are you worship two differentgods?
And like I know it's kind of airrelevant question and I'm not
(11:07):
trying to, like beat you intoanything, I just you know these,
there's different religions outthere, for you know a reason,
just like there's all theseother denominations, and it's
again that, to me, I believe.
I believe there's one God forall of humanity and that's it.
But it's just tough, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, I love the question.
I think it's a great question.
A lot of people are curiousabout that.
One of the things that'sinteresting about the question
you're asking is the Bible to meis the worldview that I've
chosen to have.
So, for example, you can have apersonal worldview or you can
have a biblical worldview.
And a personal worldview iswhere you choose to just take
(11:48):
suggestions from the Bible.
You kind of take what you likein it and leave what you don't.
Or a biblical worldview iswhere you say, hey, listen, my
preferences, my priorities, myopinions are second to the Bible
, and anything that I think,anything that I breathe,
anything that I live is going tobe in line with what that
scripture teaches.
And so that's what I've chosento do.
I've chosen to say, hey, thisBible that I have totally
(12:13):
informs the way that I view theworld and the way that I live in
it.
And one of the things that Jesussays is he says I'm the way,
the truth and the life.
No one can come to the Fatherexcept through me.
That's the words of Jesus.
So we believe that Jesus came,lived a perfect life, sinless,
spotless, lived on this earthfor 33 years, and he never
sinned but became our sin so wecould be made right with him.
And when we receive him as oursavior, what we're doing is
(12:35):
we're saying, hey, I want Christin my life and, as a result,
our sin is wiped away and we'reable to have eternity in heaven
with him, with Jesus, with God.
And so what the Muslims believeis something totally different,
and the way that Christianswould often perceive it is that
they're worshiping a false God.
(12:55):
They're not worshiping the trueGod.
The only way to heaven isthrough Jesus.
So it would be incompatible tosay that a Muslim, even if they
lived a life, a good life, gavewhatever, had good deeds, all
that stuff, that it doesn'treally matter, because Jesus is
actually the key and, in thesame way, the mercy of God and
the grace of God is for everyone.
(13:16):
It doesn't matter how badyou've been or how good you've
been If you make that decisionto follow Jesus, even if it's at
your last breath, like, forexample, somebody got mad that.
I said this one time, but it'strue, because it's what
scripture teaches If Hitlerreceived Christ as his savior
and his last breath, I believethat God would forgive him.
I mean, even when Jesus washanging on the cross.
(13:36):
He was next to two incrediblybad, terrible sinners, and one
of them said hey, I want to bewith you, I want to receive you.
And he looked at the man thatwas on the cross next to him and
he said today you'll be with mein paradise.
He actually forgave thisterrible person that was next to
him and on his last breath andhe was in.
He went to heaven with Jesus,and so it doesn't have anything
(13:58):
to do with our good deeds.
It has everything to do withone good deed that Jesus did for
us on the cross.
And so it's a great questionAgain.
It has to do with the way thatyou want to perceive the world.
I've chosen to adopt a biblicalworldview and because of that,
everything that I think, thewhole way that I perceive, every
single part of my life has tobe in line with that scripture.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it seems like that.
It's like that for my buddy too.
Man, it's phenomenal that youhave such strong faith and I
would never knock strong faithagainst anybody that you have
such strong faith and I wouldnever knock strong faith against
anybody, you know, it's just,it's just extremely.
I feel like it's too naive ofme to think that you know, just
because I believe in in onehistorical, awesome, amazing
(14:41):
figure and pop, you know the sonof God, right, that I'm going
to heaven and everybody else isdamned the Jews, the Muslims,
you know your Hindus.
I mean why and I get it he, god, sent himself here in a form of
(15:02):
himself to take away the sinsright of all of us.
But it's just something doesn'tmake sense to me and it's a
shame, but I wish you know,maybe he'll open my heart more.
Like I said, I'm not livingright anyhow, so we'll see.
But the bottom line is Abraham,what do you have?
(15:24):
Two sons, isaac and Ishmael.
So they come from the samebloodline, right?
The Jews and the Muslims, or,yeah, those two religions.
Therefore, ishmael split offand I guess was the head of the
Arab nations.
I don't even know if that'snecessarily the case, but it's
(15:46):
like why you can think about itlike this too.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You think about it like this Ishmael was born not
in line with the promise thatGod gave.
God gave Abraham a promise andhe said you and your wife Sarah,
even in your old age, willbecome father and mother of many
nations that includes Sarah,that included Abraham of many
nations.
That includes sarah.
That included abraham.
Well, because they were gettingold, it's almost like they lost
(16:12):
trust in god and they tried todo it in a counterfeit way see,
nobody's ever said that, butthat's true.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Go ahead, I'm sorry so that.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So the ishmael part of all of it is is a counterfeit
promise.
It's it's not the promise thatgod had.
It's it counterfeit promise.
It's not the promise that Godhad.
It's the fake stuff.
It's not the real deal.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's not what God blessed, as you can see, it
being extremely confusing.
So the Muslims, thank you.
We're back with the Daily American.
I want to welcome everybodyback to the show.
Thank you guys all forlistening, subscribing.
Make sure you guys check outour YouTube.
We had our first full podcastsince, one that I had to put up
on YouTube due to my man JimmyKern's physical conditioning or
condition having muscularatrophy.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But last week we had on becca slider and today we
have on with us mr tyler, fellertyler welcome so, man, thanks
for thanks for having me, dan,so looking forward to getting to
know your audience and share alittle bit of my story yeah,
absolutely, man.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Um, let me tell the audience at first.
You know he's got a prettysignificant youtube following.
I know, know it's Christianbased, but he also gets into
some political stuff.
Go ahead, tyler, speak foryourself.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, we just try to cover, like true crime, current
events, political stuff from aspiritual, biblical perspective
and help people kind of gettheir bearings from a common
sense approach to the world thatwe're in today, which honestly
we need.
Things are crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, things are definitely need.
Things are crazy.
Yeah, things, things aredefinitely off the chain.
Man, it seems like the book ofrevelations kind of coming
together a little bit, but I'mdefinitely you know, I got to
study up on a little bit, youknow some more to actually make
a statement like that, but itseems like you know the world's
in disarray, but why don't youkick us off with your childhood?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
instead of we'll getting straight to the
depressing and fun stuff, we'llstart with your childhood and
then where you were born I wasborn in arizona actually, but I
grew up in missouri, a smalltown of about 244 people
literally more cows than people.
So it's not right when you're akid your best friend's a cow
growing up.
It's just nobody should have togo through that but very, very
(01:48):
economically disadvantaged.
At the time when I was growingup as the eighth poorest
congressional district in theunited states, poverty almost
like a spiritual principality ofpoverty kind of reigns over the
region and um, there's a lot ofdrugs and things like that, and
so it it's kind of a difficultplace to grow up, but a lot of
people do well and make it outand successful and education
(02:12):
helps a lot with that.
So Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How'd you so so explain to me.
Like poverty wise, is itcountryside.
It's countryside right,obviously, if there's always
your best friend to count.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, it was in Southeast Missouri.
It's very rural, in thefoothills of the ozark mountains
.
Beautiful country, honestly,like very beautiful lots of
rivers, some lakes.
I mean it is definitely god'scountry.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
From that standpoint it's very beautiful but as far
as socioeconomics um, what doyou think contributes to the
poverty?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
yeah, I don't, don't know.
I just think lack ofopportunity, lack of major
infrastructure, there's no majorcity around to help develop the
economy, there's things likethat that obviously contribute.
And then I think, anytime thatthere's growth in a society,
there has to be people withvision.
The Bible actually says withoutvision, people perish or people
die.
And when we walk with a visionwith our life, we walk with a
(03:06):
vision for the people around us.
It uplifts, it encourages, itbrings life and I think it's one
of the most powerful thingsthat you can do.
In the Old Testament there was atime where the Babylonians came
and everything that they knewthe Israelites at the time about
God was consecrated into justthis one central place.
The Israelites at the timeabout God was consecrated into
just this one central place.
(03:27):
And the Babylonians came andknocked out that whole temple,
basically, and ransacked thevillage and left them empty.
And Jeremiah writes a letter tothem as a prophet and he said
you need to take heart and careabout your city, because the
welfare of your city willdetermine the welfare of your
people.
And so he encourages them topray and have a vision for their
city, and I think that that hasa lot to do with it.
It has to be visionaries incities and regions to help bring
(03:50):
life.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's pretty awesome .
So now you made the move toTennessee.
How'd you get away from yourhometown?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I went off to school and, just you know,
started having other experiencesand follow opportunity and felt
a draw to nashville inparticular, where I live right
now.
God's doing a lot of amazingthings in nashville and the
state of tennessee is anincredible state.
The governor actually declaredthat the month of july is a
month of prayer and fasting forthe welfare and prosperity of
our state.
I don't know any other statesin the land that are doing
(04:24):
things like that and, like amagnet, god's been calling
Christian influencers to move toNashville and be a part of
what's going on here and you cansee it's obviously trickling
its way through the governmentas well.
I mean to have a governoractually make that stance that
the whole month of July for thestate is dedicated to praying
and fasting to jesus, so that wewould get revelation on and
(04:46):
protection and guidance on onwhat he.
What he has for us in this nextseason is pretty yeah, man,
that is pretty, that is prettyawesome.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now, that is that the governor.
Again, I tell her honestly, Ihaven't paid attention to I
recently had lost my notrecently, but a few months ago,
I lost my job.
Since then I haven't turned onthe tv, I haven't paid attention
to politics.
I haven't really done um, and Icertainly haven't been
connected with god as I shouldbe.
But, um, the political, thepolitical stuff, is that the
(05:15):
government who's making somenoise because he prayed in like
the, in congress hall orsomething, or no, like, like in
the middle of like the senate orsomething, or am I talking
about something else?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I think you're talking about something else.
I'm not familiar with whatyou're talking about, but I
think that when the Bill ofRights gives us the freedom of
speech, that even electedofficials should have the
opportunity to share their faithand pray and believe that God
can show up and do somethinggreat for our nation.
Our nation has a providentialhistory from God.
It was founded on principlesthat we find in scripture, and
(05:49):
we need to be the kind of peoplethat partner with what God had
destined this nation to do,which is to bring hope to the
world around us through missionwork, and we've seen God bless
this nation because early on,there was a deep commitment to
faith.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, when you say God wanted us to be the nation
of hope.
Where does that come from?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, you just, for example, think about what nation
in the world has sent moremissionaries around the world
than any other nation.
I mean the United States isthat nation.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
They fund more missionaries.
Yeah, I didn't know that that'sawesome.
That's pretty cool.
Do you do missionary work too?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
What is your?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
denomination.
Now, what's your denomination?
What is it?
What's your denomination?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I'm a part of a denomination called General
Baptist, just a small Baptistdenomination.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't know the difference between.
What's the difference betweenBaptists?
And say I mean what was thefirst Christian religion,
catholicism.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much how it started.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I guess I was going to ask what's the difference
between Baptists and I don'tknow, non-denominational
christians or lutherans orcatholics or you know all these
different?
That's one thing that kind ofconfuses me.
I think it confuses probably alot of people.
There's so many differentchoices.
I mean christ, at the end ofthe day, said when you pray, go
(07:24):
into your room and shut the doorand I and I, you know, and he's
with and he's with us.
Now I get it.
It's good to have community ofpeople, but you can do that in
multi-facets, like this is acommunity right wherever two are
speaking to my name there, I amright, so he's definitely here
with us right now.
I don't the the actualstructured religions.
That's something I don'tparticipate in today.
(07:47):
I'm not saying I won't in thefuture, but it's just.
It's just.
I don't, um, but I'm certainlya sinner and, like I also don't
participate in a lot of thingsthat worse, I also do a lot of
things when we're technicallynot supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But I guess I think you're making a really great
point that we can just forgetabout all that stuff like Like
denominations I don't think aresuper important, the whole
infrastructure, I don't thinksuper important.
At the end of the day, jesushates religion, in my opinion,
and instead he desires arelationship with us.
(08:20):
Religion's often about rulesand building barriers that
prevent people from having adeep relationship with God.
When Jesus came so that wecould have a personal
relationship with him, and sothat's what I kind of major on.
I don't try to get too muchinto the semantics of it, but
just try to help people actuallyencounter God, have an
experience with him, and thenthey can foster and grow that
independently.
It's kind of like what you saidgo into the prayer closet, spend
(08:42):
time with him.
Jesus desires your heart.
Jesus wants you to hand overall the tough stuff Anybody
that's watching right now hasever been through.
You can hand it over to Jesus.
He'll take it, he'll handle itwith care.
The Bible actually says thathis burdens are light and easy
and ours are heavy andburdensome, and we can give him
our burdens.
We can give him these heavythings that we've been carrying,
and he'll actually take themand give us his in exchange, and
(09:07):
so we'll take the light burdensof Jesus.
That's what I want to be, andthat that comes from intimacy
with him, spending time in theprayer closet with him, getting
to know him Exactly what you'retalking about Relationship over
religion.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, relationship over religion, that's great man.
Yeah, my buddy says the samething.
My, my, my best friend growingup.
Actually, uh, he's likecompletely made the change.
His story's actually in mypocket, I'll send it to you.
But he's made this switch over,or not the switch over, but
he's just completely gave hislife to Christ and is very known
, like you could tell, like he's.
(09:39):
You know he's not doing thingshe used to do and you know it
takes a lot of courage and ittakes a lot of discipline.
And you know, sometimes I don'tknow if it's an excuse or what,
but I lack, I lack.
I have a lacking of probablythe discipline at this point in
(10:00):
my life.
Or you know, also the my here.
Here's where I get.
Also, tyler, I get kind ofconfused um with and it's good
to have somebody like yourselfon there, it's knowledgeable and
everything but other religions.
I know you don't get into thesemantics of them, but I asked
this question to somebody before.
(10:20):
And if you're sitting whereyou're at right now, right, and
your next door neighbor is aMuslim and unfortunately a
nuclear bomb comes and you'reboth wiped off the face of the
earth, do you think that you goto paradise and that that person
is not going to paradise, or,and that's if this is a scenario
, though, they've lived, they'vehad a closer relationship with
(10:45):
their God than you have withyours, and it's like like but,
but but and like but, other thanthat, equal, equal lives.
You know, you both give to yourother neighbors.
Everything else is the deedsand everything are equal,
everything's equal, except foryou guys are.
Are you worship two differentgods?
And like I know it's kind of airrelevant question and I'm not
(11:07):
trying to, like beat you intoanything, I just you know these,
there's different religions outthere, for you know a reason,
just like there's all theseother denominations, and it's
again that, to me, I believe.
I believe there's one God forall of humanity and that's it.
But it's just tough, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, I love the question.
I think it's a great question.
A lot of people are curiousabout that.
One of the things that'sinteresting about the question
you're asking is the Bible to meis the worldview that I've
chosen to have.
So, for example, you can have apersonal worldview or you can
have a biblical worldview.
And a personal worldview iswhere you choose to just take
(11:48):
suggestions from the Bible.
You kind of take what you likein it and leave what you don't.
Or a biblical worldview iswhere you say, hey, listen, my
preferences, my priorities, myopinions are second to the Bible
, and anything that I think,anything that I breathe,
anything that I live is going tobe in line with what that
scripture teaches.
And so that's what I've chosento do.
I've chosen to say, hey, thisBible that I have totally
(12:13):
informs the way that I view theworld and the way that I live in
it.
And one of the things that Jesussays is he says I'm the way,
the truth and the life.
No one can come to the Fatherexcept through me.
That's the words of Jesus.
So we believe that Jesus came,lived a perfect life, sinless,
spotless, lived on this earthfor 33 years, and he never
sinned but became our sin so wecould be made right with him.
And when we receive him as oursavior, what we're doing is
(12:35):
we're saying, hey, I want Christin my life and, as a result,
our sin is wiped away and we'reable to have eternity in heaven
with him, with Jesus, with God.
And so what the Muslims believeis something totally different,
and the way that Christianswould often perceive it is that
they're worshiping a false God.
(12:55):
They're not worshiping the trueGod.
The only way to heaven isthrough Jesus.
So it would be incompatible tosay that a Muslim, even if they
lived a life, a good life, gavewhatever, had good deeds, all
that stuff, that it doesn'treally matter, because Jesus is
actually the key and, in thesame way, the mercy of God and
the grace of God is for everyone.
(13:16):
It doesn't matter how badyou've been or how good you've
been If you make that decisionto follow Jesus, even if it's at
your last breath, like, forexample, somebody got mad that.
I said this one time, but it'strue, because it's what
scripture teaches If Hitlerreceived Christ as his savior
and his last breath, I believethat God would forgive him.
I mean, even when Jesus washanging on the cross.
(13:36):
He was next to two incrediblybad, terrible sinners, and one
of them said hey, I want to bewith you, I want to receive you.
And he looked at the man thatwas on the cross next to him and
he said today you'll be with mein paradise.
He actually forgave thisterrible person that was next to
him and on his last breath andhe was in.
He went to heaven with Jesus,and so it doesn't have anything
(13:58):
to do with our good deeds.
It has everything to do withone good deed that Jesus did for
us on the cross.
And so it's a great questionAgain.
It has to do with the way thatyou want to perceive the world.
I've chosen to adopt a biblicalworldview and because of that,
everything that I think, thewhole way that I perceive, every
single part of my life has tobe in line with that scripture.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it seems like that.
It's like that for my buddy too.
Man, it's phenomenal that youhave such strong faith and I
would never knock strong faithagainst anybody that you have
such strong faith and I wouldnever knock strong faith against
anybody, you know, it's just,it's just extremely.
I feel like it's too naive ofme to think that you know, just
because I believe in in onehistorical, awesome, amazing
(14:41):
figure and pop, you know the sonof God, right, that I'm going
to heaven and everybody else isdamned the Jews, the Muslims,
you know your Hindus.
I mean why and I get it he, god, sent himself here in a form of
(15:02):
himself to take away the sinsright of all of us.
But it's just something doesn'tmake sense to me and it's a
shame, but I wish you know,maybe he'll open my heart more.
Like I said, I'm not livingright anyhow, so we'll see.
But the bottom line is Abraham,what do you have?
(15:24):
Two sons, isaac and Ishmael.
So they come from the samebloodline, right?
The Jews and the Muslims, or,yeah, those two religions.
Therefore, ishmael split offand I guess was the head of the
Arab nations.
I don't even know if that'snecessarily the case, but it's
(15:46):
like why you can think about itlike this too.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You think about it like this Ishmael was born not
in line with the promise thatGod gave.
God gave Abraham a promise andhe said you and your wife Sarah,
even in your old age, willbecome father and mother of many
nations that includes Sarah,that included Abraham of many
nations.
That includes sarah.
That included abraham.
Well, because they were gettingold, it's almost like they lost
(16:12):
trust in god and they tried todo it in a counterfeit way see,
nobody's ever said that, butthat's true.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Go ahead, I'm sorry so that.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So the ishmael part of all of it is is a counterfeit
promise.
It's it's not the promise thatgod had.
It's it counterfeit promise.
It's not the promise that Godhad.
It's the fake stuff.
It's not the real deal.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's not what God blessed, as you can see, it
being extremely confusing.
So the Muslims, thank you.
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