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Imagine the panic when your child jumps into a pool unsupervised—it's every parent's worst nightmare. On this episode of the Phil and Leroy Judgmental Podcast, we recount such a heart-stopping moment and use it to springboard into a deeper conversation about pool safety, local regulations, and the quirks of managing water and waste in small townships. With firsthand stories and community insights, we lay bare the challenges and solutions that come with keeping our loved ones safe around water.
Shifting gears, we don't shy away from the tough topics, tackling the tangled web of relationships, corruption, and societal norms. From a local scandal to high-profile controversies like Donald Trump's legal entanglements, we analyze how power and infidelity shape public perception. Moving into the realm of polyamory, we dissect the emotional and societal complexities of having multiple partners. Through historical and modern lenses, we explore what makes these unconventional relationships tick and the double standards often applied to men and women.
Finally, we scrutinize the ethical gray areas in various industries, from the entertainment sector's notorious scandals to the manipulation in professional sports. With examples ranging from Harvey Weinstein to Vince McMahon's WWE exit, we ponder the fine line between coercion and consent. We wrap up with a controversial look at the massage industry, discussing how blurred boundaries and misconceptions can lead to exploitation. Join us for a thought-provoking episode that promises to challenge your views on safety, relationships, and ethics in today's world.
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, what's up everybody.
Welcome to the Phil and LeroyJudgmental Podcast.
I'm Leroy, so now we're gonnahave part two.
Our interview with Dan Ciancifrom the Daily American Podcast
Links to his podcast is in thedescription too, by the way.
So here you go Part two.
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I guess the water kind of tears it into the
disintegrating.
So we've been taking it down,putting it up.
And when she was two we had itup, she was in the house with my
wife.
I was outside, I had headphoneson, I was doing some yard work,
like all the way at the backlike fucking grabbing vines off
the tree and shit like that.
I hear all the splashing.
So in my mind I was thinking,oh, that's just the birds,
(00:50):
because the birds like to jumpin our pool.
I ain't think nothing of it.
Then my wife come on, she likehey, hey, where Ava to grab her?
Here she was in a pool and shewas kind of doing like this and
shit, just chilling and shit.
I guess because they say babiesknow what they're doing or
whatever.
But my heart was beating so fastand then it just went back to
(01:11):
the times that I almost drownedand shit.
I was so fucking scared.
You know what I mean?
She had swimmers on or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
She had nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
She didn't have anything on her, she came down
the deck walked to the pool,walked up the ladder on the pool
and jumped in the water.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
She's got that calmness.
She's got that calmness thenlike under like circumstances.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's why I told you I used to take her swimming
classes up where you were.
I got to renew our membershipbut I was like she loved water,
like she keeps saying like whenyou going to take me to the
beach, I want to go to the beach, it's vacation time.
She thinks every year whenvacation rolls around.
We got to go to the beach.
She loves the water, likeshe'll be in the water when we
put the pool up.
She don't want to get out.
She'll cry because we tell herto get out.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, that's crazy.
How old was she?
She was two, damn.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I thought she had swimmers on when she was doing
that.
We have sw.
She just came out of the housefucking probably still had a
pair of bones, and just jumpedin the pool, like you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And a lot of kids.
There was one right around theneighborhood, like probably a
little bit smaller, but somehowjust jumped in the pool and
that's it, and that was it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I hear a lot of stories like that.
That's another fear.
The pool yeah, see around herewhen they send us the calendar.
They tell you everything.
They put up this when they sendus the calendar and tell you
everything Biggest day now.
It says you have to have apermit to put a pool up and you
have to have a gate around yourpool With a lock on it.
I'm like damn, who's doing allof this?
Like watch your fucking kid.
You know me, but I was in asituation where the kid just
(02:35):
came out the house, so I canunderstand people fucking now,
how do you put a gate on?
You have to put a gate aroundthe pool, so like my name is's
an in-ground pool.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I can see that, but how?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They still have gates Like.
I bought a gate it's a flimsybullshit gate and I just put it
up just to shut them up.
They do say something, right,but like my neighbors, when they
moved in over here the Mexicans, yeah, they had that big pool
up, yeah, and I guess somebodymust have said something to them
.
They never put a gate aroundthe pool, but what they did was
put a mind your business fuckingprivacy fence up.
(03:07):
So now the only way you can seethe pool you have to come up
the driveway and look behind thehouse.
So I said, baby, that's what weneed to do.
On this side of the house,right here, where that newsy
neighbor liked to walk up and betalking to us while we were on
our back deck, who was the?
She's in everybody's business,but put one of those up right
there that she can't.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
She's the one that's calling it down.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
She's the one that's calling on you I don't know if
anyone called on me Because it'sacross the board on the
calendar Like we're not evensupposed to wash our cars in the
summertime.
They tell you you're notsupposed to wash your cars out
here.
Why?
I guess it's a water shortage.
I don't want car wash dirt andwater to get mixed into the
(03:47):
regular cell.
Like we don't even have a drainsystem at the end of our block.
So like one year when wedrained our pool, we let it run
down the driveway for like twoweeks the end of our block was
flooded.
Like people around the cornerwas coming out.
Like where all this watercoming from?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You seen all these people looking?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
up the block.
I'm like what the fuck?
You know what I mean, becausethe water ain't had nowhere to
go.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know what I mean.
So now would you just put it ina drain and shower in front.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, because we got our sub pump right here and the
drop sink.
Now the drop sink is connectedline right.
I mean there's still pool watergoing into the main line, but I
don't give a clean it, we gotship water going to the main
line walking pool water rightright pools are, are must.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's I.
I want to get a pool.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I want to get a pool one day, yeah, when it comes to
these small townships, then youcan't uh, it's a whole lot yeah
even with, even with, likerecycling, they'll take
everything, but they won't takeglass.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Do y'all take glass?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
we don't even have recycling anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
There you go.
We got two trash days and arecycling day, but they won't
take the glass.
And then if you're doing yardwork cutting grass or weeds and
all that shit you have to putthat in a lawn bag, not a trash
bag.
But we put that shit in a trashbag.
I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's how you're supposed to put some trash on
top.
Yeah, exactly, that's howyou're supposed to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Uh, it's going to the same place, though that's how
they do it, that's the thingabout recycling too.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
They got rid of recycling, probably for this
very reason.
I heard and I don't know ifthis is a case and I never
worked in in the trash industry,but the recycling and the trash
, because it's the same phyllis-now, the thing about that is is
that true or?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
not.
They started the single streamrecycling, which means that
everything, instead of likeseparating the paper and the
plastic, everything goes intoone trash bag.
Now my question is who isseparating this?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
nobody, nobody, nobody, yeah this is all
bullshit, right?
So down there the cities aregetting funded because they're
doing these recycling programs,but they're not really recycling
shit.
It's all a fucking hustle,right I don't even think about
that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
the money behind everything.
It always comes down to money,yep.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Speaking of that, y'all was in the news.
What's going on with the policechief?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
He got voted out but he said fuck that, I ain't
leaving, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Who's that which one?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The Colorado police chief.
The Colorado police chief, Okayyeah he got voted out like five
to two, but then he stillshowed up on Monday.
Pretty much like fuck that.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it was on the news.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Those votes don't matter to me.
He on that tip, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Is he cool Do?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
you know him or not?
I?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
don't know him, but I guess I don't give a shit.
You know what I mean.
So they voted him out.
Do they have a new chief?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He ain't going nowhere.
He's still there.
He got voted out but he's likefuck that them votes don't
matter to me.
It's almost he's saying thatthose votes don't count.
I don't care if the board votedme out, I'm still here.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I got voted in.
Was there corruption orcollusion that he knows of?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, he was involved in some shit.
I don't remember all thedetails, but I think he paid for
like a hooker and some othershit or something.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
They kind of mentioned it on the news, but I
don't know, they don't reallywant to go into details.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You probably have to search it yourself to find out.
But I think he like paid forsome hookers or some shit.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So was he on the clock when he paid for hookers,
or?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Probably.
I mean, if he ain't on theclock.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Sometimes they still would.
Be well, look at Donald Trump,they still would get on you
about stuff like that for payingthe cost.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But that's different, because Donald Trump they're
trying to say that he was on aclock using money.
What happened was his lawyerpaid it all.
I think he was running forpresident or just became
president no, no, no, thathappened years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That happened like 20 , 30 years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah that was years ago, but when the lawyer paid
for him, that wasn't 30 yearsago.
To cover it up, the lawyer lookat it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The guy.
It wasn't when he was president, I know that, but it could have
been.
I think it was right before heannounced his running.
Maybe, they pulled it out.
They pulled it out.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Because, Because I know the guy paid for it, and
then Trump pretty much ain'tpaying back.
I was like fuck that, I ain'tgot nothing to do with it.
That's why his lawyer flippedon him too.
You know what I mean.
Because he pretty much threwhim under the bus.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He tried to look out for him and then he threw him
under the bus.
But in Trump's, in that moveand running for president, if
you think of it, he was probablyadvised like, yeah, you can't
you can't have this on yourrecord and shit.
Yeah, you can't be connected.
You deny it, you know.
He did it, but you know heain't fucking a pedophile like
these other motherfuckers.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And you know I'm not saying if you're married I don't
think you should be diving intothat shit, but it happens.
And you know, sometimes I thinkthe male versus the female,
we're just biologicallydifferent.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
We are definitely.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, like we want to hunt, to chase and you know,
but we still can love and wewant, you know, the wife as well
.
But I feel like you know formyself I'm speaking for myself
but I'm not married or anythingbut I've seen a lot of people
agree with this, to me at least,and you know we're just
innately completely different.
(08:48):
You know they want to becoddled and comforted,
definitely.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And me and my wife had these talks because, like I
told her, like even if youbelieve in a Bible, a lot of
those guys in a Bible that wassupposed to have been good men,
they had multiple wives.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
King David.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Wasn't no big deal, it?
They have multiple wives.
You know what I mean.
King David, wasn't no big deal.
It's like this is like New Agestuff, where they want you to be
with just one female.
You know what I mean.
Even with, like you think of,what is it Not the Amish?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
What is?
Those people that's up inColorado that have like a couple
wives and all that shit?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Polygamy.
It's a religious set thatallows that the Mormons the
Mormons yeah yeah yeah.
As long as you can take care ofthem.
What's the big deal?
You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I mean I say that's the thing, and if they get along
, they get along Most of themare busted though.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, but it's only a headache, it's like a pain in
the ass.
It can be both ways, becausesometimes they have both wives
in the same house house.
Then other times you have theone wife who live here and the
other one live here.
You know what I mean.
But think about it If you gottwo wives, they both live in the
same house.
If she don't want to give younone, but she's down there, you
go.
Y'all happy family.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
She ain't feel like it, she hooked you up, and then
that other woman will getjealous because you always they
do.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But I'm saying why you didn't got to do the laundry
and cook food, but now you onlygot to do one and the other
girl do the other.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
If they could get along, if they could put aside
the envious and jealousy.
But here's the thing I putmyself in a situation like that.
You must be out of your mind ifyou think that I would allow
something opposite like that tohappen.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I mean yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That would never happen.
There's a double standardthough, but again, men are men
and women are women.
But now society, they want menand women 100% equal.
And then you got all thesetransgenders.
What's the matter?
What they are?
I mean, they're a man, a woman.
Everybody's fucking confused.
It's a whole nightmare the waysociety is going.
But I got one real life example,for the polyamory is basically
(10:43):
multiple loves Serve with agentleman.
I don't want to drop his name,even though I think he may have
talked about it when I had himon.
He's probably one of the dudesI look up to most Badass,
motherfucker, but so humble andjust like a good, good dude,
like really solid dude.
And he's got I know he's gottwo baby moms and I'm pretty
(11:05):
sure he loves them both.
Like I don't know if it'sequally, but he definitely 100%
voices his opinion for polyamory, and in like a loving way and
not in like a demonstrative,like I just want to fuck bitches
, like that's more so me, Iwould say I'm more so like that.
But he, like you know it worksfor him, I think, and he opened
my mind to it because you knowinnately, we're just beasts, you
(11:30):
know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
We're animals.
We just weren't.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
This is what it is you want to see up Like, um,
what was I about to say?
But people think I'm a maniacfor thinking like that.
No, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Who says that?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Who said that you were a maniac, if you think so
last night I actually commentedon she's got like 15,000
followers on Facebook.
I don't even know how we'refriends on Facebook, but I've
never communicated with her inmy life, but she posted
something what's your biggestconflict when it comes to a
relationship?
And I flat out just said what Ijust what we're talking about.
I want to be with multiplewomen.
What we're talking about, Iwant to be with multiple women.
(12:04):
I think it's like my natural,like innate self and obviously
it causes conflict because Ican't.
Nothing's ever good enough.
I want, I want more, I wantanother one, you know, and yeah,
she did respond back.
I don't know, we've been goingback and forth, but she was cool
about she handled it real welland like she was cool about it,
she handled it real well andlike I'm cool with that.
People can have oppositeopinions and as long as
(12:26):
everybody's respectful, that'scool, like I'm cool with that.
I would love to have respectfulconversations with people that
see the complete opposite of me,to learn and to still be cool.
You know, like people getheated People get, they can't
control their emotions,especially like politics and
shit.
That's not me, I think thefemales.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
They put too much feeling and emotion with
everything and that's why thedifferent relationships Don't
work out Like it can be a girlthat get on her fucking nerves
but she look good, got a fat ass.
You be like you know what?
She get on my fucking nervesbut I'm gonna go see her.
You can fucking hit and thenfucking split and think nothing.
But a female can't do that.
If a dude get on a nerve, shedon't want nothing to do with
him or whatever.
You know what I mean.
Shit like that, yeah, that's100% true.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's 100% true.
Yeah, they do come back around,though I've had a few that,
just like they, always theylinger back or they go.
Try.
I'm like, all right, focus onyour children, go date, and then
they'll circle back aroundbecause these other dudes A
they're bullshitting them,they're lying, they're cheating.
You know, some of them stealing, honest to God, and it's just
(13:28):
like fuck man, like these guysgot no integrity.
At least she could get pissedoff at me for keeping it real
and saying like, yeah, like it'sreally hard for me to just
settle down and be with onewoman.
Yeah, it just is, and theyrespect it at the end of the day
, which is why they circle.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Well, they respect it because you told the truth.
That's number one.
I mean, there's no reason tolie to a female and really know
if she either do it or don't.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And they circle back because they know sooner or
later you're going to want tosettle down and if you're a good
dude and they like being aroundyou, maybe they'll get lucky
this time.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
That's where I feel bad, though.
That's where I feel real badbecause it's like then they call
it stringing me along.
I told you to do your thing.
Sometimes, from the verybeginning, I'm just like this is
not going anywhere Ever.
Just lay it down like thatWorst case scenario.
Sometimes it works out in myfavor and a lot of times it
doesn't.
It's better than hurtingfeelings, man, that's.
(14:25):
The last thing I try to do islike hurt people on earth.
But this indian dude told methat.
He said you can drink smokewhatever to the flesh, to your
own flesh, but once you know youstart hurting other people and
bringing them down or destroyyour own body, it's just your
body, it's not your soul, right?
And he said but once you startlike if that, if you're what, if
(14:48):
you, if you do ill will towardsothers, that's when your soul
begins to like you know right,get some damage now, uh, what
happened to the uh smoke shop?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
didn't you have a?
Uh no, that was just a a quicklittle sponsor uh, Because you
made it seem like he was like oh, no, no, no no that wasn't.
What did I make?
It seem like, Like he was likeowning.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no.
And the smoke shop was aroundhere somewhere right, yeah,
broomall.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah okay, yeah, right up the street.
Yeah yeah, Indian dude, he's agood dude, raheith, but yeah
they push products in there thatI shouldn't take part in.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I definitely should have him as a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So they heard your podcast and you I actually would
go in there and just grabsmokes and then got to talking
to them and I told myself Iwanted another sponsor because
my brother's company sponsoredit for a little while, but I
wanted to just source one on myown and I never tried.
So I went in there and, yeah, Idid a couple posts.
He paid me a couple hundredbucks and gave me some discounts
(16:03):
on some things and it wasn'tmuch.
But I just like this when I sayI'm going to do something, I
got to do it.
Now I could be reaching out topeople left and right and trying
to find a sponsor, but I'm notthere yet.
I don't want to just dosomething like that again, where
it's just like a Try to takethese things to the next level,
(16:25):
Leroy.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
We got to get these things to the next level, right,
because I thought that just theway that Instagram video was
like you was like a co-owner,Really Right.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
What did I say?
I don't even remember what Isaid.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
This was like maybe last year.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, I remember the video.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, you were sitting in there.
No, you were busting jokes on.
I called him a puto yeah and onthe bottom of it, on the bottom
of it, what did you write?
I forget.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Partnership.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You might have.
Yeah, and that's what made methink that you was like a.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh yeah, not a no, no , no, no.
Like, even at the company Iused to work for, we call them
partnerships.
When, like, when you strike adeal with another contractor or
anything, that's what we wouldcall them.
But I get what you're sayinglike an actual partnership.
No, no, no, no, no.
I can see how that seems likethat.
That's my art of manipulationyou got to pick that up later on
.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Is that a book that we're supposed to read?
Since Phillip is the readerhere, he reads that up.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, like I said, technology changed and made
people stupid, so we don't readno more.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Okay, so can I get the audio book?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Maybe I don't know.
Job Corps.
I read early days in themilitary I read Once these
smartphones came out, you ain'tgot to read shit, no more.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Well see, I still read, but most of my books are
like biographies orautobiographies and I read them
off the tablet.
But now they got these programs.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You can have it on your tablet to read and write to
you.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, so see my books .
When I was a kid, I was alwaysa fan of pro wrestling, so Me
too.
Every time, like for Christmas,I always asked my mom to get me
a whoever had the book out, andone of my favorite books that I
can think of when I wasn'treally a kid I was probably in
my late teens, early 20s when itcame out was Dynamite Kid.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Who's Dynamite Kid?
No no no, it was just before mytime.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
How old are you 35.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh no, he probably won't remember the British
Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
British Bulldogs.
Yeah, are you sure BritishBulldogs?
Yes, because I know the Bulldog.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
The British Bulldog Without the S.
You remember him.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, big swole dude.
Yeah, that's what I'm talkingabout.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Davey Boy Smith you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But he was the tag team and the tag team was the
British Bulldogs and the otherguy, dynamite Kid.
He wrote a book about his lifestory and all that stuff and it
was like interesting to himBecause you know they had wild
stories about doing drugs andgoing this on the road and doing
that and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, they got all jacked up.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I probably was like in my when that book came out.
I had to be like in my lateteens to mid-twenties when that
book came out, so I wasn'treally a kid.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But that's the only book that I can think of.
I go back to Art Anderson andthe Four Horsemen, but that's
really Macho man.
I think I saw Andre the Giantonce.
Maybe I don't know if I did.
Maybe, if it was, I was really,really young, but I've
definitely seen the reruns withhim and Hulk Hogan.
I was locked in in the 90s.
I had the Cianci 316 shirt.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, you're very young.
You're very young becauseAustin 316, I definitely was in
my 20s then my mid to late 20s,mid 20s.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That was like 90s.
When Steve Austin came around,I was like getting out of
wrestling.
Then, yeah, before.
That is when I was deep how oldare you guys?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I'm 47.
That had to be Austin.
316 came out.
That had to be what?
98, 99?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
These dudes look younger than I do.
I'm 35 out here with all grayhair.
I'm shot out, I'm out yo.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
It had to be 98, 99.
So yeah, I was in my mid-20,20s, early 20s, when 2000, maybe
WCW closed in 2001.
I want to say Austin 316 had tobe out in like 98, 99.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I remember when Steve Austin was a wrestler but he
wasn't Stone Cold, he was justSteve Austin and I used to be a
big time WCW and WA guy.
You know what I mean.
So I didn't give a shit aboutWWF.
That was like clown wrestlingto me.
And then when people used totell me, oh, wrestling is phony,
I'm like no, it ain't phony.
Let me show you how phony it is.
I'll fuck you up.
You know what I mean.
And I knew, like arm bars, leglocks, I and to me in my mind I
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was thinking it can't be funny.
These dudes are bleeding,they're breaking their neck,
they're breaking their arm andthey really was getting fucked
up.
But a lot of it was scriptedtoo.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
mean yeah, I think it's all scripted, but they
still like mankind gettingthrown off the cage by the
Undertaker.
Oh, his tooth coming out.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, here's a question for both of you.
Now.
You just mentioned scripted andpro wrestling.
Now it's a lot of people that'sinto professional sports say
that's scripted.
Now, do you believe that?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think that there's definitely ways for referees and
certain individual players tofix games.
I don't think it's some grandscheme, because there's just no
way that secret would be able tobe kept because somebody's
getting mad somewhere along thelines.
I mean, come on, look at theday and age.
We live in Cameras and all that, but it's too easy.
(21:36):
Imagine, you know, I link upwith Mott 15 years ago and
before even online gambling oranything like that.
Online gambling makes it thatmuch easier.
So I happen to have an unclewho's a ref and nobody knows
about that.
I don't tell anybody.
I told Ma, because I got 30grand cash right here.
I'm going to give it to Ma.
He's going to upload it intohis bank and put it on a fucking
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game, because I know which wayit's going to go.
It's just too easy.
I mean, that's what happenedwith the dude Tim McGonaghy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, mcgonaghy, yeah , he pretty much did the same
thing as you just said.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, that's too easy .
Now, you know, I wish I had aplug like that, because if
you're out there, you know giveme a shout, phil.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
what's your thoughts?
He pretty much said it right.
Like I think it's definitelyshit that goes on behind the
scenes with players andofficiating and they kind of
like they can't script the wholegame but they can do just a
little bit to get it past you.
It's still going in their favor.
Like I said, if it wasn't nobig deal, the NFL wouldn't have
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the injury report coming outbefore games for players and
shit like that.
That's all part of gambling andthey're making a lot of bread
off of it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Same with the NBA.
You know these guys will bescratching.
All of a sudden they're suitingup in warm-ups Meanwhile.
That manipulated the line bylike 10 points.
Also fouling Fouling in the NBA, in college, whatever.
When you foul, you go to thefree throw line.
They're like automatic points.
You do that If there's earlyfouls and you're already at the
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free throw line.
It's going to be an over.
They're not predicting, they'renot fucking with the outcome of
the game, they're just fuckingwith the fact.
Points total.
That's probably how theyjustify it.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You see it all the time.
You see refs heavily favoringone team calling everything.
Then these other dudes get beatup on the other side of the
name calling the player, get madand call him out on it.
Then he get ejected or attacked.
You know what I mean.
Like shut the up.
We got this pretty much yeah,yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I agree.
It's very easy for the refereescan can dictate who to win.
Even we talk about pointspreads.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's very easy for a referee to dictate what's going
on because, like you said, youjust can call fouls and then
we're like a lot of these sportsthey have replay but a lot of
they don't even want to replaylike you can put.
You can put replay in everysport to make sure that it's 100
fair across the board and allowthe challenge anything they
have.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Certain stuff you can't challenge yeah, that's
your call, but I can't challengebecause you're not allowed to
challenge that.
Or spots on the ball.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You'll see a motherfucker get a first down.
The ref will grab the ball andput it back there.
Get the fuck out of here.
What's that about?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And how about how the coaches can't challenge in the
NFL?
What's that?
The last two minutes?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
of the quarter.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's fucking the most important part of the
quarter.
You know what, too?
The way they make some of thesefucking calls.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And some shit is obvious and the player won't
even challenge.
I mean the coach won't evenchallenge.
He's like why didn't youchallenge that call?
And then we see in the replayit was obvious, he should have
challenged it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, I was saving my timeouts below the two-minute
mark.
You know what I wanted to runby you guys.
So I saw this and I haven'tbeen paying attention to the
news or anything, but I saw thistwice and I got to talk about
it.
So, vince McMahon, back towrestling.
Vince McMahon, he's like amulti-billionaire or whatever a
(24:55):
guy set.
I think he stepped down.
I think Triple H is the facenow.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Okay, he kind of got fired.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
How can you get fired from something you own?
They want us to believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I bet you.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
he's still getting a check behind the scenes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You can't own something and get fired from
something that you own.
They can force you to step down, they can say you got fired,
but in the scheme of thingsyou're still the owner of this.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You know what I mean?
No, because they sold it to uhthe same company that owns the
ufc.
So, uh, he's not.
They don't the man's don't ownuh wwf anymore.
Well, that's different if he'ssolely that's different, but he
was when they did the sell self.
When they sold it, he was stillin charge of the company and
they kind of sort of endeavor Ithink is the name of the company
.
I'm not sure whoever owns theufc endeavor um, he was still in
(25:52):
charge.
They wanted him to be in chargeand, uh, all the stuff went
down.
Was you gonna mention thesexual stuff?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
yeah, so yeah, that's what I was gonna get into with.
Uh.
So I, yeah, obviously I readthe article and I was like man,
this guy, he seems like a littleslimy, slimy dude and
apparently he had this youngintern and he's basically having
her rail.
I don't know, I think it wasTriple H involved.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, it wasn't Triple H, it was Johnny.
H was his name back in the day.
You remember the Royal Warriors, mm-mm.
The Legion of Doom.
Yeah, yeahmm, oh, the Legion ofDoom, yeah yeah, yeah, I got
the Legion of Doom.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay that is Animals' brother.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
John Laurinaitis, that's his name.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh, okay, okay, he didn't wrestle in a.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
He wrestled, but he didn't wrestle in a WWE.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, mcmahon would be sitting back there watching
and then taking part in it aswell, essentially making her
fuck this dude.
While he's sitting back, Idon't know if he's fucking
beating his fucking.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That was the whole story it was about she was
banging a dude and making himwatch it, but he was pretty much
like.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know you gotta do this.
This is like your job.
Almost you can't do that.
And when you got all that moneyand you're the fucking face of
the WWE, that's.
And you're the fucking face ofthe wwe.
That's like roger goodellfucking, grabbing giselle,
bunching and making her banglike fucking.
I don't know ladania thompsonor some shit right there.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It's crazy the girl um the girl.
He met the girl like in hisapartment complex or condo it
wasn't.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It wasn't in the office.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
No, I'll get to that so she needed a job and all that
stuff.
So he had got her a job, whichyou were saying.
So he would, uh, do sexual,sexual things with her, like all
type of sexual stuff, and hewould tell her to like take
pictures of you doing this andall that, and he would show all
the guys on the job like, look,look, what you're doing right
there.
He would show everybody.
So, um, okay, he was sleepingwith her.
(27:48):
So then john laurenitis johnlaurenitis, I forget his job
title there john laurenitiswould sleep with her too, and
they were like, hand her off.
They would either have sex withher together, like like he said
that he would do it and shewatched, or she would like go
down to the office and sleepwith like one sleeping one, then
go down to the office and sleepwith like one, sleep in one,
then go down to another officeand sleep with the other.
(28:09):
So what happened was, uh, shewas going to sue or whatever,
and they had an agreement thathe was supposed to pay her this
amount of money, uh, whatever.
So the time money time came, heain't come through.
So this is when we get thislawsuit and all that stuff and
the reason why I came back upagain is because one of the pro
wrestling guys had uh, she was ajane doe in a court case.
(28:32):
Do you know all about thisstuff, or?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
no, I don't.
No, no, I just read a couplearticles and that was it.
I got the gist of it, but not.
Not like the whole facts andeverything.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
So one of the guys and uh, one of these pro
wrestling uh guys, um, he uhouted her name, powder her name
out, and that's when they hadsued again, because if I'm a
jane doe, how did my name getout?
So it's like the same case asyou talking about, but her name
is in it now.
So, since that's why she's uhwhen was the original case?
(29:01):
Years.
No, the original case may havebeen about two years ago okay oh
, and then when endeavor broughthim back, that's when all this
stuff came again.
When the pro wrestling guy hadmentioned the girl's name,
that's when all this stuff camein and they had let her go.
And so I'm agreeing withPhillip about this, because it's
not like the father and thedaughter still talk to each
other.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So you mean to tell me she's not telling him what's
going down with the company andall this stuff he's probably got
royalty fees until the he his,his, his grandkids grandkids got
royalty fees right, so he he'sstill on the payroll, it's just
he's just not, you know, ceo or,or whatever right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
So you mean, when they talk on the phone, they
never mention anything about thecompany?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
yeah, right, but and she's still with your wage, yeah
, the second time.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Second time I saw it it was on Rogan's podcast.
He was interviewing Kurt Angleand Kurt Angle he actually likes
the only clout I got.
He likes some of my reels andhe follows me.
Kurt Angle, he only followslike 300 people, I don't know
why he follows me, but he's onthe podcast and he's telling the
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story.
You know how good of a guy andrich Vince McMahon is.
Now I tried to see if it waslike a newer podcast.
He did or what.
But you know I get it.
I get some women are grimy, butI feel like if you're in a
position of power and you gotall that money, maybe don't like
if you want to banger, bangerbut don't fucking pay her, bang
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her and then toss her to otherdudes like you.
Just keep see.
I.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I'm like in the middle in this, because the way
I feel is, first of all, youshouldn't be a banging employees
, 100% agree with it, even ifthey work for you.
Now, if they work in the samecompany, I'll be sure about that
, but if they work under you,yeah, then hands off.
I agree with that part.
The second part I see is whereis the personal accountability?
She's a grown female.
(30:52):
She could have said fuck you,I'm going to go work over here,
right?
She didn't have to take, andthat's the same with Harvey
Weinstein and all these othersexual cases.
None of these actresses had tofucking sit on that couch and do
what they had to do to get thatjob.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well see, the thing with Harvey Harvey lasted a long
time.
Those were kids, though.
I'm sorry, I'm talking aboutthe adults.
Yeah, yeah, yeah Kids is more.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm talking about Epstein.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm talking about Epstein, yeah yeah, yeah, no,
that's different.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Harvey Weinstein was like the big movie guy and see
the thing about him is.
He lasted a long time doingthat because he came through.
If he told a girl, hey look, dothis, I'll get you a role, he
wasn't bullshitting, he.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
But so back to that.
You're a nobody actress, youwant this job.
And he said well, shut thatdoor and fucking blow me in,
I'll get you that role.
If she shut the door and blowhim, you should be able to sue
years later.
He got you that role.
Now you're in Hollywood, abig-time movie star, making
millions of dollars because ofthat little incident that y'all
(31:51):
had.
But you can't then turn aroundand say I was a victim, you took
advantage of me.
You're an adult.
Where's your personal?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
responsibility.
I see what you point.
It's like a little line therebecause you are taking advantage
, because you don't have to tellthat girl to do that.
You're right and it goes bothways.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You shouldn't do that and she shouldn't agree to that
.
We're both adults here.
That's why I said I'm kind oflike in the middle.
I hate all these females thatcome back and shit.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, you're right.
If you're a minor is one thing.
He took advantage of you 100%.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
If you're an adult, you know right from wrong.
If you chose to go the easy wayout, open your legs to get this
role, then deal with theconsequences of it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You don't's just fucked up.
No, you're right.
And then we've got to alsoconsider all these variables too
.
Like is her mom sick and sheneeds that job, so she's going
to do whatever the fuck she can.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
This is the only producer that will hire you,
Like there's other places youcan go to get a job.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You don't have to them and you can sue them for
doing it without opening your.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I know that's it.
Yeah, that's a good point rightthere.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah all right, but how about this one on a moment
side?
Uh, all right.
This guy can make your dreamscome true, like these these
girls.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
He's the only guy in the world that can make you well
as of right now that's the onlyperson you're talking to, that
that can put you in a movie thenthere's a personal decision you
got make.
Do you wanna?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
do it or not.
That's why I said it's like aline.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
But what I'm saying is you got your own destiny in
your hands.
If you wanna go the sleazy,cheap, sneaky way to get there,
the fast way to get there, thenthat's what you do.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
How many women wanna take the hard route?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
There's a lot of women in Hollywood that didn't
go that route.
They did.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You're right, but how many of that percentage of who
want to have it easy, these arefemales we're talking about
right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay.
So then don't be mad at ityears later.
In trying to sue somebody, youdid what you had to do.
He got you the role becausethat's what you all agreed on.
He got you that role.
Now you're a big-time moviestar, making millions, living
the 1% life, and you turn aroundand sue him.
He took advantage of me 30years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That sounds like bullshit to me, was it a while
ago?
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
A while ago oh.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Weinstein you're talking about.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotWeinstein.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And then lo and behold.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Where's he at?
Did they put him away?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
No, he went to jail.
You know.
All the charges got reversed.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
So how does he go to jail and then McMahon gets on or
McMahon's getting clout onRogan's podcast?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
It wasn't a criminal.
She's suing him for money.
It's not a criminal trial Okay,okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Even that's bullshit to me.
When you can sue somebody, itshould be if somebody did you
wrong, it should be criminalcharges, and after you found
them guilty for the criminalcharges, then you can be able to
sue them for money.
You shouldn't be able to justsuit for money flat out.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The thing about that case is it was already done and
settled, but he didn't comethrough with that amount of
whatever type of amount theyagreed on that day and he didn't
come through.
Number one, and I told you thatthe pro wrestling guy had outed
her name.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
If y'all had a deal in place her to do all this
freaky shit and you'll pay herblankety blank, then she did the
freaky shit.
You need to pay her Somethinglike that.
You know what I mean.
But once she gets paid fordoing that, she then can't turn
around and sue you saying hemade me do this.
If a motherfucker can't put agun to your head or beat your
ass, you shouldn't do it.
If you don't want to do itSomething like that, do it.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
So what's that?
You're right, that's true,that's true.
At the same time, when you'rethe boss of the company and you
got a little underlink and she'sbrand new and shit, and you
know.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
She's still an adult and she knows right from wrong.
She's probably telling hergirlfriends yeah, the boss of
the company is on me.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I know they're done with that shit.
Well, my thing is why he justcan't go to the massage parlor
like my man did.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The owner of the fucking Patriots.
He didn't even get in troublefor that.
Anybody else, get fuckingkicked out of the league, banned
all this shit.
He's just like okay, go aheadand do your own thing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I mean massage parlor .
I don't see it.
I mean he's married.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Again, I see something with the marriage
thing.
If you're going, maybe thereand you're married, but but he
got caught in a sting operationthat's not just like you don't
remember that.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, I didn't know it was a sting, though it was a
sting operation.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
It'd be like fucking me standing next to the owner of
the page who's getting caughtin a sting operation and fucking
wishy-washy, fucking lookingfor a happy ending name.
That's why, If you go on amassage parlor then that's your
own business.
But once it's a sting operationand you get caught and they
know who's going to he's tryingto pay the girl to fucking do
some extra shit, then he shouldhave got the same amount.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
He should have got the penalized the same if a
player would have done that shitand got Okay, yo those things
let me just tell you like that's, like it's not even a secret in
like America, it's definitelyknown, right, it's like a secret
that they don't want to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But it ain't a secret to us.
It's a secret to the females.
I don't think they really knowlike.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, but nobody like right.
I mean, I'm completely I don'tknow if it's a culture thing
over there that that's why theycome over here and do it and
they're just practicing theircultural you know, norms.
Or it goes back to like.
I think it may go back to likewars, like I don't know, even
Vietnam they're not Vietnamese,but even Vietnam, like that's
what it was about.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
They'd be over there in warhouses getting taken care
of.
I think the United States andfemales want to put a bad rep on
us, so they want to make usbelieve that all these these
these massage therapists aredoing it against their will.
They're sex slaves, they'retaking advantage.
That's what they want us tobelieve they're doing, and and
that's why they put the frown onit.
You know what I mean.
They want to believe.
But yeah right, these samegirls are giving massages,
probably going to the mallshopping, having a good old time
.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Nobody making them do that yeah, now the deshaun
watson thing he had those girlsin his head.
They're like see, there'sdifferences.
From my experience, my limitedexperience, you got the asian
joints and then you got likeactual massage, licensed massage
therapists that are going tolike people's houses and if
they're really good, they'reprobably got to be really hot
and really good and that's whatthat deshaun brought like a
(37:50):
bunch of them in there and waslike trying to get him to do and
like no, they was doing andthey knew what time it was.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
He was probably grabbing these girls over back
page when back page was running.
Yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
If that's the case then then he no these weren't
like.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
These are not legit yeah, see, that's some.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's some, because I didn't know that.
They make it seem like theseinnocent ass little massage
therapy.
They just got out of yale andshit for the massage therapy no
these same girls you can findonline.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Fucking give them a couple extra dollars.
They fucking showing the asspictures and shit like that,
like yeah, that's ridiculous, sothat's bullshit, that's
bullshit all right, that waspart two.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
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Speaker 2 (38:46):
All right, everyone, have a good one, so I'll be on
my solo.
Hold up Whoa.
Hold the phone.
You think all I do is rap.
I can do it on my own, that's.
Yeah, what's up everybody.
Welcome to the Phil and LeroyJudgmental Podcast.
I'm Leroy, so now we're gonnahave part two.
Our interview with Dan Ciancifrom the Daily American Podcast
Links to his podcast is in thedescription too, by the way.
So here you go Part two.
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I guess the water kind of tears it into the
disintegrating.
So we've been taking it down,putting it up.
And when she was two we had itup, she was in the house with my
wife.
I was outside, I had headphoneson, I was doing some yard work,
like all the way at the backlike fucking grabbing vines off
the tree and shit like that.
I hear all the splashing.
So in my mind I was thinking,oh, that's just the birds,
(00:50):
because the birds like to jumpin our pool.
I ain't think nothing of it.
Then my wife come on, she likehey, hey, where Ava to grab her?
Here she was in a pool and shewas kind of doing like this and
shit, just chilling and shit.
I guess because they say babiesknow what they're doing or
whatever.
But my heart was beating so fastand then it just went back to
(01:11):
the times that I almost drownedand shit.
I was so fucking scared.
You know what I mean?
She had swimmers on or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
She had nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
She didn't have anything on her, she came down
the deck walked to the pool,walked up the ladder on the pool
and jumped in the water.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
She's got that calmness.
She's got that calmness thenlike under like circumstances.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's why I told you I used to take her swimming
classes up where you were.
I got to renew our membershipbut I was like she loved water,
like she keeps saying like whenyou going to take me to the
beach, I want to go to the beach, it's vacation time.
She thinks every year whenvacation rolls around.
We got to go to the beach.
She loves the water, likeshe'll be in the water when we
put the pool up.
She don't want to get out.
She'll cry because we tell herto get out.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, that's crazy.
How old was she?
She was two, damn.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I thought she had swimmers on when she was doing
that.
We have sw.
She just came out of the housefucking probably still had a
pair of bones, and just jumpedin the pool, like you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And a lot of kids.
There was one right around theneighborhood, like probably a
little bit smaller, but somehowjust jumped in the pool and
that's it, and that was it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I hear a lot of stories like that.
That's another fear.
The pool yeah, see around herewhen they send us the calendar.
They tell you everything.
They put up this when they sendus the calendar and tell you
everything Biggest day now.
It says you have to have apermit to put a pool up and you
have to have a gate around yourpool With a lock on it.
I'm like damn, who's doing allof this?
Like watch your fucking kid.
You know me, but I was in asituation where the kid just
(02:35):
came out the house, so I canunderstand people fucking now,
how do you put a gate on?
You have to put a gate aroundthe pool, so like my name is's
an in-ground pool.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I can see that, but how?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They still have gates Like.
I bought a gate it's a flimsybullshit gate and I just put it
up just to shut them up.
They do say something, right,but like my neighbors, when they
moved in over here the Mexicans, yeah, they had that big pool
up, yeah, and I guess somebodymust have said something to them
.
They never put a gate aroundthe pool, but what they did was
put a mind your business fuckingprivacy fence up.
(03:07):
So now the only way you can seethe pool you have to come up
the driveway and look behind thehouse.
So I said, baby, that's what weneed to do.
On this side of the house,right here, where that newsy
neighbor liked to walk up and betalking to us while we were on
our back deck, who was the?
She's in everybody's business,but put one of those up right
there that she can't.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
She's the one that's calling it down.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
She's the one that's calling on you I don't know if
anyone called on me Because it'sacross the board on the
calendar Like we're not evensupposed to wash our cars in the
summertime.
They tell you you're notsupposed to wash your cars out
here.
Why?
I guess it's a water shortage.
I don't want car wash dirt andwater to get mixed into the
(03:47):
regular cell.
Like we don't even have a drainsystem at the end of our block.
So like one year when wedrained our pool, we let it run
down the driveway for like twoweeks the end of our block was
flooded.
Like people around the cornerwas coming out.
Like where all this watercoming from?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You seen all these people looking?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
up the block.
I'm like what the fuck?
You know what I mean, becausethe water ain't had nowhere to
go.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know what I mean.
So now would you just put it ina drain and shower in front.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, because we got our sub pump right here and the
drop sink.
Now the drop sink is connectedline right.
I mean there's still pool watergoing into the main line, but I
don't give a clean it, we gotship water going to the main
line walking pool water rightright pools are, are must.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's I.
I want to get a pool.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I want to get a pool one day, yeah, when it comes to
these small townships, then youcan't uh, it's a whole lot yeah
even with, even with, likerecycling, they'll take
everything, but they won't takeglass.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Do y'all take glass?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
we don't even have recycling anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
There you go.
We got two trash days and arecycling day, but they won't
take the glass.
And then if you're doing yardwork cutting grass or weeds and
all that shit you have to putthat in a lawn bag, not a trash
bag.
But we put that shit in a trashbag.
I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's how you're supposed to put some trash on
top.
Yeah, exactly, that's howyou're supposed to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Uh, it's going to the same place, though that's how
they do it, that's the thingabout recycling too.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
They got rid of recycling, probably for this
very reason.
I heard and I don't know ifthis is a case and I never
worked in in the trash industry,but the recycling and the trash
, because it's the same phyllis-now, the thing about that is is
that true or?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
not.
They started the single streamrecycling, which means that
everything, instead of likeseparating the paper and the
plastic, everything goes intoone trash bag.
Now my question is who isseparating this?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
nobody, nobody, nobody, yeah this is all
bullshit, right?
So down there the cities aregetting funded because they're
doing these recycling programs,but they're not really recycling
shit.
It's all a fucking hustle,right I don't even think about
that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
the money behind everything.
It always comes down to money,yep.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Speaking of that, y'all was in the news.
What's going on with the policechief?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
He got voted out but he said fuck that, I ain't
leaving, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Who's that which one?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The Colorado police chief.
The Colorado police chief, Okayyeah he got voted out like five
to two, but then he stillshowed up on Monday.
Pretty much like fuck that.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it was on the news.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Those votes don't matter to me.
He on that tip, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Is he cool Do?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
you know him or not?
I?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
don't know him, but I guess I don't give a shit.
You know what I mean.
So they voted him out.
Do they have a new chief?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He ain't going nowhere.
He's still there.
He got voted out but he's likefuck that them votes don't
matter to me.
It's almost he's saying thatthose votes don't count.
I don't care if the board votedme out, I'm still here.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I got voted in.
Was there corruption orcollusion that he knows of?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, he was involved in some shit.
I don't remember all thedetails, but I think he paid for
like a hooker and some othershit or something.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
They kind of mentioned it on the news, but I
don't know, they don't reallywant to go into details.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You probably have to search it yourself to find out.
But I think he like paid forsome hookers or some shit.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So was he on the clock when he paid for hookers,
or?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Probably.
I mean, if he ain't on theclock.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Sometimes they still would.
Be well, look at Donald Trump,they still would get on you
about stuff like that for payingthe cost.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But that's different, because Donald Trump they're
trying to say that he was on aclock using money.
What happened was his lawyerpaid it all.
I think he was running forpresident or just became
president no, no, no, thathappened years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That happened like 20 , 30 years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah that was years ago, but when the lawyer paid
for him, that wasn't 30 yearsago.
To cover it up, the lawyer lookat it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The guy.
It wasn't when he was president, I know that, but it could have
been.
I think it was right before heannounced his running.
Maybe, they pulled it out.
They pulled it out.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Because, Because I know the guy paid for it, and
then Trump pretty much ain'tpaying back.
I was like fuck that, I ain'tgot nothing to do with it.
That's why his lawyer flippedon him too.
You know what I mean.
Because he pretty much threwhim under the bus.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He tried to look out for him and then he threw him
under the bus.
But in Trump's, in that moveand running for president, if
you think of it, he was probablyadvised like, yeah, you can't
you can't have this on yourrecord and shit.
Yeah, you can't be connected.
You deny it, you know.
He did it, but you know heain't fucking a pedophile like
these other motherfuckers.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And you know I'm not saying if you're married I don't
think you should be diving intothat shit, but it happens.
And you know, sometimes I thinkthe male versus the female,
we're just biologicallydifferent.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
We are definitely.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, like we want to hunt, to chase and you know,
but we still can love and wewant, you know, the wife as well
.
But I feel like you know formyself I'm speaking for myself
but I'm not married or anythingbut I've seen a lot of people
agree with this, to me at least,and you know we're just
innately completely different.
(08:48):
You know they want to becoddled and comforted,
definitely.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And me and my wife had these talks because, like I
told her, like even if youbelieve in a Bible, a lot of
those guys in a Bible that wassupposed to have been good men,
they had multiple wives.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
King David.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Wasn't no big deal, it?
They have multiple wives.
You know what I mean.
King David, wasn't no big deal.
It's like this is like New Agestuff, where they want you to be
with just one female.
You know what I mean.
Even with, like you think of,what is it Not the Amish?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
What is?
Those people that's up inColorado that have like a couple
wives and all that shit?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Polygamy.
It's a religious set thatallows that the Mormons the
Mormons yeah yeah yeah.
As long as you can take care ofthem.
What's the big deal?
You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I mean I say that's the thing, and if they get along
, they get along Most of themare busted though.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, but it's only a headache, it's like a pain in
the ass.
It can be both ways, becausesometimes they have both wives
in the same house house.
Then other times you have theone wife who live here and the
other one live here.
You know what I mean.
But think about it If you gottwo wives, they both live in the
same house.
If she don't want to give younone, but she's down there, you
go.
Y'all happy family.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
She ain't feel like it, she hooked you up, and then
that other woman will getjealous because you always they
do.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But I'm saying why you didn't got to do the laundry
and cook food, but now you onlygot to do one and the other
girl do the other.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
If they could get along, if they could put aside
the envious and jealousy.
But here's the thing I putmyself in a situation like that.
You must be out of your mind ifyou think that I would allow
something opposite like that tohappen.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I mean yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That would never happen.
There's a double standardthough, but again, men are men
and women are women.
But now society, they want menand women 100% equal.
And then you got all thesetransgenders.
What's the matter?
What they are?
I mean, they're a man, a woman.
Everybody's fucking confused.
It's a whole nightmare the waysociety is going.
But I got one real life example,for the polyamory is basically
(10:43):
multiple loves Serve with agentleman.
I don't want to drop his name,even though I think he may have
talked about it when I had himon.
He's probably one of the dudesI look up to most Badass,
motherfucker, but so humble andjust like a good, good dude,
like really solid dude.
And he's got I know he's gottwo baby moms and I'm pretty
(11:05):
sure he loves them both.
Like I don't know if it'sequally, but he definitely 100%
voices his opinion for polyamory, and in like a loving way and
not in like a demonstrative,like I just want to fuck bitches
, like that's more so me, Iwould say I'm more so like that.
But he, like you know it worksfor him, I think, and he opened
my mind to it because you knowinnately, we're just beasts, you
(11:30):
know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
We're animals.
We just weren't.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
This is what it is you want to see up Like, um,
what was I about to say?
But people think I'm a maniacfor thinking like that.
No, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Who says that?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Who said that you were a maniac, if you think so
last night I actually commentedon she's got like 15,000
followers on Facebook.
I don't even know how we'refriends on Facebook, but I've
never communicated with her inmy life, but she posted
something what's your biggestconflict when it comes to a
relationship?
And I flat out just said what Ijust what we're talking about.
I want to be with multiplewomen.
What we're talking about, Iwant to be with multiple women.
(12:04):
I think it's like my natural,like innate self and obviously
it causes conflict because Ican't.
Nothing's ever good enough.
I want, I want more, I wantanother one, you know, and yeah,
she did respond back.
I don't know, we've been goingback and forth, but she was cool
about she handled it real welland like she was cool about it,
she handled it real well andlike I'm cool with that.
People can have oppositeopinions and as long as
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everybody's respectful, that'scool, like I'm cool with that.
I would love to have respectfulconversations with people that
see the complete opposite of me,to learn and to still be cool.
You know, like people getheated People get, they can't
control their emotions,especially like politics and
shit.
That's not me, I think thefemales.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
They put too much feeling and emotion with
everything and that's why thedifferent relationships Don't
work out Like it can be a girlthat get on her fucking nerves
but she look good, got a fat ass.
You be like you know what?
She get on my fucking nervesbut I'm gonna go see her.
You can fucking hit and thenfucking split and think nothing.
But a female can't do that.
If a dude get on a nerve, shedon't want nothing to do with
him or whatever.
You know what I mean.
Shit like that, yeah, that's100% true.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's 100% true.
Yeah, they do come back around,though I've had a few that,
just like they, always theylinger back or they go.
Try.
I'm like, all right, focus onyour children, go date, and then
they'll circle back aroundbecause these other dudes A
they're bullshitting them,they're lying, they're cheating.
You know, some of them stealing, honest to God, and it's just
(13:28):
like fuck man, like these guysgot no integrity.
At least she could get pissedoff at me for keeping it real
and saying like, yeah, like it'sreally hard for me to just
settle down and be with onewoman.
Yeah, it just is, and theyrespect it at the end of the day
, which is why they circle.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Well, they respect it because you told the truth.
That's number one.
I mean, there's no reason tolie to a female and really know
if she either do it or don't.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And they circle back because they know sooner or
later you're going to want tosettle down and if you're a good
dude and they like being aroundyou, maybe they'll get lucky
this time.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
That's where I feel bad, though.
That's where I feel real badbecause it's like then they call
it stringing me along.
I told you to do your thing.
Sometimes, from the verybeginning, I'm just like this is
not going anywhere Ever.
Just lay it down like thatWorst case scenario.
Sometimes it works out in myfavor and a lot of times it
doesn't.
It's better than hurtingfeelings, man, that's.
(14:25):
The last thing I try to do islike hurt people on earth.
But this indian dude told methat.
He said you can drink smokewhatever to the flesh, to your
own flesh, but once you know youstart hurting other people and
bringing them down or destroyyour own body, it's just your
body, it's not your soul, right?
And he said but once you startlike if that, if you're what, if
(14:48):
you, if you do ill will towardsothers, that's when your soul
begins to like you know right,get some damage now, uh, what
happened to the uh smoke shop?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
didn't you have a?
Uh no, that was just a a quicklittle sponsor uh, Because you
made it seem like he was like oh, no, no, no no that wasn't.
What did I make?
It seem like, Like he was likeowning.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no.
And the smoke shop was aroundhere somewhere right, yeah,
broomall.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah okay, yeah, right up the street.
Yeah yeah, Indian dude, he's agood dude, raheith, but yeah
they push products in there thatI shouldn't take part in.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I definitely should have him as a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So they heard your podcast and you I actually would
go in there and just grabsmokes and then got to talking
to them and I told myself Iwanted another sponsor because
my brother's company sponsoredit for a little while, but I
wanted to just source one on myown and I never tried.
So I went in there and, yeah, Idid a couple posts.
He paid me a couple hundredbucks and gave me some discounts
(16:03):
on some things and it wasn'tmuch.
But I just like this when I sayI'm going to do something, I
got to do it.
Now I could be reaching out topeople left and right and trying
to find a sponsor, but I'm notthere yet.
I don't want to just dosomething like that again, where
it's just like a Try to takethese things to the next level,
(16:25):
Leroy.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
We got to get these things to the next level, right,
because I thought that just theway that Instagram video was
like you was like a co-owner,Really Right.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
What did I say?
I don't even remember what Isaid.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
This was like maybe last year.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, I remember the video.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, you were sitting in there.
No, you were busting jokes on.
I called him a puto yeah and onthe bottom of it, on the bottom
of it, what did you write?
I forget.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Partnership.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You might have.
Yeah, and that's what made methink that you was like a.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh yeah, not a no, no , no, no.
Like, even at the company Iused to work for, we call them
partnerships.
When, like, when you strike adeal with another contractor or
anything, that's what we wouldcall them.
But I get what you're sayinglike an actual partnership.
No, no, no, no, no.
I can see how that seems likethat.
That's my art of manipulationyou got to pick that up later on
.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Is that a book that we're supposed to read?
Since Phillip is the readerhere, he reads that up.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, like I said, technology changed and made
people stupid, so we don't readno more.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Okay, so can I get the audio book?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Maybe I don't know.
Job Corps.
I read early days in themilitary I read Once these
smartphones came out, you ain'tgot to read shit, no more.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Well see, I still read, but most of my books are
like biographies orautobiographies and I read them
off the tablet.
But now they got these programs.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You can have it on your tablet to read and write to
you.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, so see my books .
When I was a kid, I was alwaysa fan of pro wrestling, so Me
too.
Every time, like for Christmas,I always asked my mom to get me
a whoever had the book out, andone of my favorite books that I
can think of when I wasn'treally a kid I was probably in
my late teens, early 20s when itcame out was Dynamite Kid.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Who's Dynamite Kid?
No no no, it was just before mytime.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
How old are you 35.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh no, he probably won't remember the British
Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
British Bulldogs.
Yeah, are you sure BritishBulldogs?
Yes, because I know the Bulldog.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
The British Bulldog Without the S.
You remember him.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, big swole dude.
Yeah, that's what I'm talkingabout.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Davey Boy Smith you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But he was the tag team and the tag team was the
British Bulldogs and the otherguy, dynamite Kid.
He wrote a book about his lifestory and all that stuff and it
was like interesting to himBecause you know they had wild
stories about doing drugs andgoing this on the road and doing
that and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, they got all jacked up.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I probably was like in my when that book came out.
I had to be like in my lateteens to mid-twenties when that
book came out, so I wasn'treally a kid.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But that's the only book that I can think of.
I go back to Art Anderson andthe Four Horsemen, but that's
really Macho man.
I think I saw Andre the Giantonce.
Maybe I don't know if I did.
Maybe, if it was, I was really,really young, but I've
definitely seen the reruns withhim and Hulk Hogan.
I was locked in in the 90s.
I had the Cianci 316 shirt.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, you're very young.
You're very young becauseAustin 316, I definitely was in
my 20s then my mid to late 20s,mid 20s.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That was like 90s.
When Steve Austin came around,I was like getting out of
wrestling.
Then, yeah, before.
That is when I was deep how oldare you guys?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I'm 47.
That had to be Austin.
316 came out.
That had to be what?
98, 99?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
These dudes look younger than I do.
I'm 35 out here with all grayhair.
I'm shot out, I'm out yo.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
It had to be 98, 99.
So yeah, I was in my mid-20,20s, early 20s, when 2000, maybe
WCW closed in 2001.
I want to say Austin 316 had tobe out in like 98, 99.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I remember when Steve Austin was a wrestler but he
wasn't Stone Cold, he was justSteve Austin and I used to be a
big time WCW and WA guy.
You know what I mean.
So I didn't give a shit aboutWWF.
That was like clown wrestlingto me.
And then when people used totell me, oh, wrestling is phony,
I'm like no, it ain't phony.
Let me show you how phony it is.
I'll fuck you up.
You know what I mean.
And I knew, like arm bars, leglocks, I and to me in my mind I
(20:43):
was thinking it can't be funny.
These dudes are bleeding,they're breaking their neck,
they're breaking their arm andthey really was getting fucked
up.
But a lot of it was scriptedtoo.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
mean yeah, I think it's all scripted, but they
still like mankind gettingthrown off the cage by the
Undertaker.
Oh, his tooth coming out.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, here's a question for both of you.
Now.
You just mentioned scripted andpro wrestling.
Now it's a lot of people that'sinto professional sports say
that's scripted.
Now, do you believe that?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think that there's definitely ways for referees and
certain individual players tofix games.
I don't think it's some grandscheme, because there's just no
way that secret would be able tobe kept because somebody's
getting mad somewhere along thelines.
I mean, come on, look at theday and age.
We live in Cameras and all that, but it's too easy.
(21:36):
Imagine, you know, I link upwith Mott 15 years ago and
before even online gambling oranything like that.
Online gambling makes it thatmuch easier.
So I happen to have an unclewho's a ref and nobody knows
about that.
I don't tell anybody.
I told Ma, because I got 30grand cash right here.
I'm going to give it to Ma.
He's going to upload it intohis bank and put it on a fucking
(21:57):
game, because I know which wayit's going to go.
It's just too easy.
I mean, that's what happenedwith the dude Tim McGonaghy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, mcgonaghy, yeah , he pretty much did the same
thing as you just said.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, that's too easy .
Now, you know, I wish I had aplug like that, because if
you're out there, you know giveme a shout, phil.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
what's your thoughts?
He pretty much said it right.
Like I think it's definitelyshit that goes on behind the
scenes with players andofficiating and they kind of
like they can't script the wholegame but they can do just a
little bit to get it past you.
It's still going in their favor.
Like I said, if it wasn't nobig deal, the NFL wouldn't have
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the injury report coming outbefore games for players and
shit like that.
That's all part of gambling andthey're making a lot of bread
off of it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Same with the NBA.
You know these guys will bescratching.
All of a sudden they're suitingup in warm-ups Meanwhile.
That manipulated the line bylike 10 points.
Also fouling Fouling in the NBA, in college, whatever.
When you foul, you go to thefree throw line.
They're like automatic points.
You do that If there's earlyfouls and you're already at the
(23:11):
free throw line.
It's going to be an over.
They're not predicting, they'renot fucking with the outcome of
the game, they're just fuckingwith the fact.
Points total.
That's probably how theyjustify it.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You see it all the time.
You see refs heavily favoringone team calling everything.
Then these other dudes get beatup on the other side of the
name calling the player, get madand call him out on it.
Then he get ejected or attacked.
You know what I mean.
Like shut the up.
We got this pretty much yeah,yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I agree.
It's very easy for the refereescan can dictate who to win.
Even we talk about pointspreads.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's very easy for a referee to dictate what's going
on because, like you said, youjust can call fouls and then
we're like a lot of these sportsthey have replay but a lot of
they don't even want to replaylike you can put.
You can put replay in everysport to make sure that it's 100
fair across the board and allowthe challenge anything they
have.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Certain stuff you can't challenge yeah, that's
your call, but I can't challengebecause you're not allowed to
challenge that.
Or spots on the ball.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You'll see a motherfucker get a first down.
The ref will grab the ball andput it back there.
Get the fuck out of here.
What's that about?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And how about how the coaches can't challenge in the
NFL?
What's that?
The last two minutes?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
of the quarter.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's fucking the most important part of the
quarter.
You know what, too?
The way they make some of thesefucking calls.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And some shit is obvious and the player won't
even challenge.
I mean the coach won't evenchallenge.
He's like why didn't youchallenge that call?
And then we see in the replayit was obvious, he should have
challenged it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, I was saving my timeouts below the two-minute
mark.
You know what I wanted to runby you guys.
So I saw this and I haven'tbeen paying attention to the
news or anything, but I saw thistwice and I got to talk about
it.
So, vince McMahon, back towrestling.
Vince McMahon, he's like amulti-billionaire or whatever a
(24:55):
guy set.
I think he stepped down.
I think Triple H is the facenow.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Okay, he kind of got fired.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
How can you get fired from something you own?
They want us to believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I bet you.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
he's still getting a check behind the scenes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You can't own something and get fired from
something that you own.
They can force you to step down, they can say you got fired,
but in the scheme of thingsyou're still the owner of this.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You know what I mean?
No, because they sold it to uhthe same company that owns the
ufc.
So, uh, he's not.
They don't the man's don't ownuh wwf anymore.
Well, that's different if he'ssolely that's different, but he
was when they did the sell self.
When they sold it, he was stillin charge of the company and
they kind of sort of endeavor Ithink is the name of the company
.
I'm not sure whoever owns theufc endeavor um, he was still in
(25:52):
charge.
They wanted him to be in chargeand, uh, all the stuff went
down.
Was you gonna mention thesexual stuff?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
yeah, so yeah, that's what I was gonna get into with.
Uh.
So I, yeah, obviously I readthe article and I was like man,
this guy, he seems like a littleslimy, slimy dude and
apparently he had this youngintern and he's basically having
her rail.
I don't know, I think it wasTriple H involved.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, it wasn't Triple H, it was Johnny.
H was his name back in the day.
You remember the Royal Warriors, mm-mm.
The Legion of Doom.
Yeah, yeahmm, oh, the Legion ofDoom, yeah yeah, yeah, I got
the Legion of Doom.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay that is Animals' brother.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
John Laurinaitis, that's his name.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh, okay, okay, he didn't wrestle in a.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
He wrestled, but he didn't wrestle in a WWE.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, mcmahon would be sitting back there watching
and then taking part in it aswell, essentially making her
fuck this dude.
While he's sitting back, Idon't know if he's fucking
beating his fucking.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That was the whole story it was about she was
banging a dude and making himwatch it, but he was pretty much
like.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know you gotta do this.
This is like your job.
Almost you can't do that.
And when you got all that moneyand you're the fucking face of
the WWE, that's.
And you're the fucking face ofthe wwe.
That's like roger goodellfucking, grabbing giselle,
bunching and making her banglike fucking.
I don't know ladania thompsonor some shit right there.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It's crazy the girl um the girl.
He met the girl like in hisapartment complex or condo it
wasn't.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It wasn't in the office.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
No, I'll get to that so she needed a job and all that
stuff.
So he had got her a job, whichyou were saying.
So he would, uh, do sexual,sexual things with her, like all
type of sexual stuff, and hewould tell her to like take
pictures of you doing this andall that, and he would show all
the guys on the job like, look,look, what you're doing right
there.
He would show everybody.
So, um, okay, he was sleepingwith her.
(27:48):
So then john laurenitis johnlaurenitis, I forget his job
title there john laurenitiswould sleep with her too, and
they were like, hand her off.
They would either have sex withher together, like like he said
that he would do it and shewatched, or she would like go
down to the office and sleepwith like one sleeping one, then
go down to the office and sleepwith like one, sleep in one,
then go down to another officeand sleep with the other.
(28:09):
So what happened was, uh, shewas going to sue or whatever,
and they had an agreement thathe was supposed to pay her this
amount of money, uh, whatever.
So the time money time came, heain't come through.
So this is when we get thislawsuit and all that stuff and
the reason why I came back upagain is because one of the pro
wrestling guys had uh, she was ajane doe in a court case.
(28:32):
Do you know all about thisstuff, or?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
no, I don't.
No, no, I just read a couplearticles and that was it.
I got the gist of it, but not.
Not like the whole facts andeverything.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
So one of the guys and uh, one of these pro
wrestling uh guys, um, he uhouted her name, powder her name
out, and that's when they hadsued again, because if I'm a
jane doe, how did my name getout?
So it's like the same case asyou talking about, but her name
is in it now.
So, since that's why she's uhwhen was the original case?
(29:01):
Years.
No, the original case may havebeen about two years ago okay oh
, and then when endeavor broughthim back, that's when all this
stuff came again.
When the pro wrestling guy hadmentioned the girl's name,
that's when all this stuff camein and they had let her go.
And so I'm agreeing withPhillip about this, because it's
not like the father and thedaughter still talk to each
other.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So you mean to tell me she's not telling him what's
going down with the company andall this stuff he's probably got
royalty fees until the he his,his, his grandkids grandkids got
royalty fees right, so he he'sstill on the payroll, it's just
he's just not, you know, ceo or,or whatever right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
So you mean, when they talk on the phone, they
never mention anything about thecompany?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
yeah, right, but and she's still with your wage, yeah
, the second time.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Second time I saw it it was on Rogan's podcast.
He was interviewing Kurt Angleand Kurt Angle he actually likes
the only clout I got.
He likes some of my reels andhe follows me.
Kurt Angle, he only followslike 300 people, I don't know
why he follows me, but he's onthe podcast and he's telling the
(30:06):
story.
You know how good of a guy andrich Vince McMahon is.
Now I tried to see if it waslike a newer podcast.
He did or what.
But you know I get it.
I get some women are grimy, butI feel like if you're in a
position of power and you gotall that money, maybe don't like
if you want to banger, bangerbut don't fucking pay her, bang
(30:27):
her and then toss her to otherdudes like you.
Just keep see.
I.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I'm like in the middle in this, because the way
I feel is, first of all, youshouldn't be a banging employees
, 100% agree with it, even ifthey work for you.
Now, if they work in the samecompany, I'll be sure about that
, but if they work under you,yeah, then hands off.
I agree with that part.
The second part I see is whereis the personal accountability?
She's a grown female.
(30:52):
She could have said fuck you,I'm going to go work over here,
right?
She didn't have to take, andthat's the same with Harvey
Weinstein and all these othersexual cases.
None of these actresses had tofucking sit on that couch and do
what they had to do to get thatjob.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well see, the thing with Harvey Harvey lasted a long
time.
Those were kids, though.
I'm sorry, I'm talking aboutthe adults.
Yeah, yeah, yeah Kids is more.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm talking about Epstein.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm talking about Epstein, yeah yeah, yeah, no,
that's different.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Harvey Weinstein was like the big movie guy and see
the thing about him is.
He lasted a long time doingthat because he came through.
If he told a girl, hey look, dothis, I'll get you a role, he
wasn't bullshitting, he.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
But so back to that.
You're a nobody actress, youwant this job.
And he said well, shut thatdoor and fucking blow me in,
I'll get you that role.
If she shut the door and blowhim, you should be able to sue
years later.
He got you that role.
Now you're in Hollywood, abig-time movie star, making
millions of dollars because ofthat little incident that y'all
(31:51):
had.
But you can't then turn aroundand say I was a victim, you took
advantage of me.
You're an adult.
Where's your personal?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
responsibility.
I see what you point.
It's like a little line therebecause you are taking advantage
, because you don't have to tellthat girl to do that.
You're right and it goes bothways.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You shouldn't do that and she shouldn't agree to that
.
We're both adults here.
That's why I said I'm kind oflike in the middle.
I hate all these females thatcome back and shit.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, you're right.
If you're a minor is one thing.
He took advantage of you 100%.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
If you're an adult, you know right from wrong.
If you chose to go the easy wayout, open your legs to get this
role, then deal with theconsequences of it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You don't's just fucked up.
No, you're right.
And then we've got to alsoconsider all these variables too
.
Like is her mom sick and sheneeds that job, so she's going
to do whatever the fuck she can.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
This is the only producer that will hire you,
Like there's other places youcan go to get a job.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You don't have to them and you can sue them for
doing it without opening your.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I know that's it.
Yeah, that's a good point rightthere.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah all right, but how about this one on a moment
side?
Uh, all right.
This guy can make your dreamscome true, like these these
girls.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
He's the only guy in the world that can make you well
as of right now that's the onlyperson you're talking to, that
that can put you in a movie thenthere's a personal decision you
got make.
Do you wanna?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
do it or not.
That's why I said it's like aline.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
But what I'm saying is you got your own destiny in
your hands.
If you wanna go the sleazy,cheap, sneaky way to get there,
the fast way to get there, thenthat's what you do.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
How many women wanna take the hard route?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
There's a lot of women in Hollywood that didn't
go that route.
They did.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You're right, but how many of that percentage of who
want to have it easy, these arefemales we're talking about
right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Okay.
So then don't be mad at ityears later.
In trying to sue somebody, youdid what you had to do.
He got you the role becausethat's what you all agreed on.
He got you that role.
Now you're a big-time moviestar, making millions, living
the 1% life, and you turn aroundand sue him.
He took advantage of me 30years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That sounds like bullshit to me, was it a while
ago?
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
A while ago oh.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Weinstein you're talking about.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotWeinstein.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And then lo and behold.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Where's he at?
Did they put him away?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
No, he went to jail.
You know.
All the charges got reversed.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
So how does he go to jail and then McMahon gets on or
McMahon's getting clout onRogan's podcast?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
It wasn't a criminal.
She's suing him for money.
It's not a criminal trial Okay,okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Even that's bullshit to me.
When you can sue somebody, itshould be if somebody did you
wrong, it should be criminalcharges, and after you found
them guilty for the criminalcharges, then you can be able to
sue them for money.
You shouldn't be able to justsuit for money flat out.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The thing about that case is it was already done and
settled, but he didn't comethrough with that amount of
whatever type of amount theyagreed on that day and he didn't
come through.
Number one, and I told you thatthe pro wrestling guy had outed
her name.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
If y'all had a deal in place her to do all this
freaky shit and you'll pay herblankety blank, then she did the
freaky shit.
You need to pay her Somethinglike that.
You know what I mean.
But once she gets paid fordoing that, she then can't turn
around and sue you saying hemade me do this.
If a motherfucker can't put agun to your head or beat your
ass, you shouldn't do it.
If you don't want to do itSomething like that, do it.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
So what's that?
You're right, that's true,that's true.
At the same time, when you'rethe boss of the company and you
got a little underlink and she'sbrand new and shit, and you
know.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
She's still an adult and she knows right from wrong.
She's probably telling hergirlfriends yeah, the boss of
the company is on me.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I know they're done with that shit.
Well, my thing is why he justcan't go to the massage parlor
like my man did.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The owner of the fucking Patriots.
He didn't even get in troublefor that.
Anybody else, get fuckingkicked out of the league, banned
all this shit.
He's just like okay, go aheadand do your own thing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I mean massage parlor .
I don't see it.
I mean he's married.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Again, I see something with the marriage
thing.
If you're going, maybe thereand you're married, but but he
got caught in a sting operationthat's not just like you don't
remember that.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, I didn't know it was a sting, though it was a
sting operation.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
It'd be like fucking me standing next to the owner of
the page who's getting caughtin a sting operation and fucking
wishy-washy, fucking lookingfor a happy ending name.
That's why, If you go on amassage parlor then that's your
own business.
But once it's a sting operationand you get caught and they
know who's going to he's tryingto pay the girl to fucking do
some extra shit, then he shouldhave got the same amount.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
He should have got the penalized the same if a
player would have done that shitand got Okay, yo those things
let me just tell you like that's, like it's not even a secret in
like America, it's definitelyknown, right, it's like a secret
that they don't want to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But it ain't a secret to us.
It's a secret to the females.
I don't think they really knowlike.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, but nobody like right.
I mean, I'm completely I don'tknow if it's a culture thing
over there that that's why theycome over here and do it and
they're just practicing theircultural you know, norms.
Or it goes back to like.
I think it may go back to likewars, like I don't know, even
Vietnam they're not Vietnamese,but even Vietnam, like that's
what it was about.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
They'd be over there in warhouses getting taken care
of.
I think the United States andfemales want to put a bad rep on
us, so they want to make usbelieve that all these these
these massage therapists aredoing it against their will.
They're sex slaves, they'retaking advantage.
That's what they want us tobelieve they're doing, and and
that's why they put the frown onit.
You know what I mean.
They want to believe.
But yeah right, these samegirls are giving massages,
probably going to the mallshopping, having a good old time
.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Nobody making them do that yeah, now the deshaun
watson thing he had those girlsin his head.
They're like see, there'sdifferences.
From my experience, my limitedexperience, you got the asian
joints and then you got likeactual massage, licensed massage
therapists that are going tolike people's houses and if
they're really good, they'reprobably got to be really hot
and really good and that's whatthat deshaun brought like a
(37:50):
bunch of them in there and waslike trying to get him to do and
like no, they was doing andthey knew what time it was.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
He was probably grabbing these girls over back
page when back page was running.
Yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
If that's the case then then he no these weren't
like.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
These are not legit yeah, see, that's some.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's some, because I didn't know that.
They make it seem like theseinnocent ass little massage
therapy.
They just got out of yale andshit for the massage therapy no
these same girls you can findonline.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Fucking give them a couple extra dollars.
They fucking showing the asspictures and shit like that,
like yeah, that's ridiculous, sothat's bullshit, that's
bullshit all right, that waspart two.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
We'll have the final part three next week.
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Speaker 2 (38:46):
All right, everyone, have a good one, so I'll be on
my solo.
Hold up Whoa.
Hold the phone.
You think all I do is rap.
I can do it on my own, that's.
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