Join us for an inspiring conversation about faith, resilience, and navigating the uncertainties of modern life. We explore the story of Ruth, whose unwavering strength in challenging times serves as a powerful example of trust in divine sovereignty. Through this episode, listeners will find encouragement to embrace change as part of God's divine plan, using prayer, reflection, and scripture to stay grounded amidst global uncertainties. By drawing parallels with Proverbs 3:5-6, we emphasize the importance of leaning on faith over fear, even when the world seems overwhelming.
Amidst discussions of spiritual warfare and the end times, our conversation takes a critical look at the juxtaposition between our growing reliance on artificial intelligence and the omniscient power of God. The comforting promises found in the Gospel and Isaiah 41:10 remind us that we are never alone, as God promises strength, help, and support. Reaffirming faith by speaking God's promises back to Him provides solace, and we encourage a childlike posture of faith in a world that often demands adult-like certainty. Personal reflections and scriptural insights empower listeners with the strength to face life's trials head-on.
As we journey together through this episode, we also touch on the importance of genuine connections—both with people and God. The story of Ruth and Naomi illustrates the power of loyalty and love for who someone is, not just what they offer. This episode invites listeners to reflect on their own relationships and their faith journey, encouraging them to find strength in God's purpose and promises. Connect with us through the Daily Bread podcast and continue this journey of faith and resilience, as we navigate life's challenges with assurance and strength.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, welcome.
Welcome once again to ouranother broadcast of our Daily
Bread podcast with Dr Jarrelland Angela Stokely we are super
excited to be here yet one moretime.
amen, to be able to share a wordof wisdom, a word of
encouragement, inspiration abouta topic that we truly believe
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is so important for the body ofChrist and even those that are
not in Christ.
You know, we believe that thisis such a great topic that can
be a source of encouragement andinspiration.
So, my wonderful guest not onlyis he intelligent, but he's a
cutie pie.
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I was going to say handsome,but I always call him cute.
That's my word.
My cutie pie husband, you wantto greet the people today, hey?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
everybody.
Thank you all for being here ontoday on the Daily Bread
Podcast.
We're so excited, I'm soexcited to be here with you and
with my lovely wife of 29 yearsthis year 29 years February 17th
that we have been married.
But we've been knowing eachother since seventh grade and
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we've been together 34 yearsaltogether.
We had some dating time.
Yep, we had some dating time.
So I pray God, we reared it allthe way I liked it.
I put a ring on it.
So amen, hallelujah, so gloryto God.
I'm glad to be here, heyeverybody, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Um, yes, always a joy to sit across the table to
discuss these topics and allowthe Lord to use us in such a
mighty and powerful way so thatthe body of believers is edified
.
That's always the goal that thebody of believers are edified
and that the enemy would behorrified.
So we give glory, I give Godglory for you and, again, for
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our audience.
Thank you so very much fortuning in.
You could have been doinganything else, and so we don't
take it lightly that you takethe time to listen in and, as
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So we're excited about that and we give God glory
.
So if you have been trackingwith this, then you know this is
part four of our topicadjustments.
Topic adjustments man, if thereis a time that we need to be
able to adjust, it is now.
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We have just entered 2025 and,man, we have some things to look
forward to.
And then there's a lot ofthings that we're not sure
what's going to happen.
But that's okay, because we'reon God's side and we know that
God is in control and he's gotus covered.
So we're excited about that.
So we just want to talk here inpart four, we're going to talk
about our sister Ruth.
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Today we're going to talk alittle bit about our sister Ruth
and focusing on strength inadversity and uncertainty.
Look at that Strength inadversity and uncertainty.
Look at that Strength andadversity and uncertainty.
So we're going to pray and thenwe'll get right into the topic
today and pray.
You're blessed, amen.
You'll join me in prayer.
Father, we bless you, we thankyou.
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We give you glory and honor andpraise.
We thank you for everyopportunity, god, that you
afford us just to be alive.
We thank you, god, that we'renot here by accident.
We thank you, god, that we'renot here by accident.
We thank you, god, that we'renot here by mistake, that all of
us are on a purposed hallelujahjourney.
And, god, we give you glory, nomatter what life has thrown at
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us, no matter what we've gonethrough, no matter what is going
on even in our right now.
God, your plan for us is goodand not evil, and we give you
glory and honor and praise.
Now I pray, god, that you willanoint the ear of the hearer
Hallelujah.
That you will allow us to heardeeper, god, in the name of
Jesus, to receive revelation insome shape, form or fashion by
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your Holy Spirit.
That, god, we will be betterequipped to handle what we're
facing, to be able to handlewhat we're going to face.
That you get all glory,hallelujah, out of every
situation, out of everychallenging time and every
challenging season of our life.
That, god, you will be able toget the glory.
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We give you glory, we give youhonor and, god, we give you
praise.
Have your way in this space,have your way over the airwaves.
Have your way, oh God, in thename of Jesus, like only you can
.
In Jesus' name, we pray, amenamen and amen.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So, hallelujah, god, my goodness, hallelujah, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So good God.
My goodness, that was such agood prayer moment.
Thank you so much.
Praise the Lord, hallelujah.
So of course, we started thisjourney talking about God's
sovereignty and control when wefirst started out and we looked
at Proverbs 3, 5, and 6, whichof course, focuses on trusting
in the Lord and then we moved onto embrace and change as part
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of God's plan Yep.
And here we are.
Here we are as strength inadversity and uncertainty.
Can you talk to us a little bitabout that real quick?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah.
So facing adjustments in liferequire that we are anchored in
our faith and our belief systemin God.
The Bible says trust in theLord and lean not to your own
understanding, but in all yourways acknowledge him and he will
direct your path.
And one of the most uncertaintimes that we could face is when
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we are going through anadjustment, when there is a
change, a modification, a shift,whatever you want to call it, a
new season, when something ishappening that throws our system
and our cycle and pattern ofdoing things in a different
direction.
For example, when you relocateto another state, when your body
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gets, you get, an affliction,an ailment, a sickness, a
disease, or when you findyourself in the unemployment
line after 15 years of asuccessful career, when so much
is happening on the politicallandscape and you find yourself
feeling afraid of what's goingto happen next.
All of these are changes andadjustments that we face and
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that we are facing right now,and it is important to find
strength.
Where do we find that strength?
One place I go to all the timeis the Lord.
The Bible says the Lord is mystrength.
Yeah.
You know, what I mean.
He is our shield and ourbuckler.
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The Lord is my strong tower,you know, and so I.
Just that's where I like to go,you know, when it talks about
having strength and adversityand uncertainty, because we're
going to face uncertain timeswe're in uncertain times.
We don't know what's going tohappen not just from day to day,
from hour to hour.
If you're somebody who watchesthe news different times
throughout the day, you know fora fact it's changing.
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So much is changing becausethere's spiritual warfare that
is taking place.
There's a battle between goodand evil.
We're fighting principalitiesand powers and wickedness in
high places.
We're coming to the end times.
It's already been prophesied andwritten in the word of the Lord
that the end time is coming andChrist is coming back and y'all
we have to remember all thingsare moving toward the second
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coming of Jesus Christ.
So all things are moving tothis apocalyptic time when
Christ is going to return toredeem his church and his people
and then the new heaven and newearth is going to come down
here and there'll be a thousandyears of reign of peace in Jesus
Christ before the finaljudgment of Satan and the fallen
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angels.
So we have to understand thatthere's supposed to be turmoil,
there's supposed to be chaos andfires and earthquakes.
The Bible already talks aboutthis.
So as we move toward that endtime, we understand that we're
going to face an uncertainty andadversity and we've got to be
strong, and I'm sorry about thatlong.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, no, no, you know, it was just.
I just thought about that.
Yeah, that was really good.
You know, you got me thinkingwhen you were talking about the
different things that well,first of all, where we're headed
, yeah, and how these thingsthat we're seeing they're
supposed to happen.
It's in the word of God, yeah.
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And one of the things I thoughtabout is oftentimes, you know,
when we see those thingshappening, it creates, sometimes
it creates paralysis.
You know where we get kind ofparalyzed like, oh my God, we're
in so much shock and wow, andall of those different things.
And I think I'm saying that tosay I think it's so important
that these types of topics aretaught or talked about so that
it will help those who may fallinto that paralytic place where
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they just get paralyzed and donothing, you know, because of
that shock and that worry andthat concern.
But realize that you know, whenwe're on God's side, he's got
us Like that's a guarantee.
You know what I mean.
That is a guarantee.
So I just thought that was veryinteresting when you said that,
because I thought about how thenews can create that paralysis,
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because you know it's showingus the things that are happening
and can create fear and cancreate all of these things, and
I like the way you frame that,because you said we're headed
towards the second coming.
For those of us that arebelievers, that are Christians,
we know that Jesus is comingback.
So then we must understand thethings that we see as a part of
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the process.
However, then we have to say toourselves we must govern
ourselves accordingly, we mustgovern ourselves accordingly,
and so what is the identifier inthat?
It has to be the word of God,and who is the author of that?
It is God himself.
So then it is important for usto get to the place that we
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understand, accept, trust in,rely on that.
Any changes and adjustmentsthat are necessary, like God has
to be the foundation of it.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He has to be the foundation of what we do.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, and understanding like God's got me,
god's got me.
I see what's happening in theworld, but God's got me.
You know what things can I do.
You know in the process, youknow what I'm saying, what
things can I do, and I think ourtopic on adjustments have been
those types of tools to saythese are things that you can do
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.
First of all, we got tounderstand that God is sovereign
.
You know, we have to understandthat he's sovereign.
And then just look into ourtool chest of spiritual things,
our tool chest that's in theword of God, and where are we
slacking and do that.
You know what I'm saying.
Grow in those particular areas.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So are you going to say something.
I feel a prophetic anointing onthis teaching.
There is a prophetic power onthis teaching right now and it
is flowing in this room and Iknow that means the Holy Spirit
is a prophetic anointing goingout into the airwaves and if
you're listening, I want you totune in and get this.
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Here's one of the things Godplaced on my heart the moment
you started introducing thistopic.
The end is coming.
The end is coming is a reality,yeah, that we must digest and
live with and rejoice about,because the end for the kingdom
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is amazing amen but the end forthe wicked is not.
And it is our job as the end,knowing that the end is coming,
to walk in that revelation withjoy and to speed up our process
of spreading the gospel of JesusChrist to every nation and to
every tongue.
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End times were coming and therewould be wars, rumors of wars,
famine, earthquake in diverseplaces, fires, floods.
All of that is happening rightnow and we have all the
indicators and all themanifestations that we are
moving rapidly toward the secondcoming of Jesus Christ and
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moving toward the end times ofJesus Christ and moving toward
the end times.
And what is starting to happenis we're so paralyzed by the
news that we're starting to look, pay, give more credence and
attention to AI instead of the.
I am.
That's good, yeah, everybody'sabout AI.
This AI that AI is not morepowerful than I am.
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I love that AI stands forartificial intelligence, but the
all knowing AI is not morepowerful than I am.
I love that AI stands forartificial intelligence, but the
all-knowing God is omniscient.
He has all knowledge, my God,all of it.
See, ai is not faster than God.
God moves faster than the speedof sound.
Come on, somebody.
That's right.
Ai need a command.
God gives them.
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Come on.
That was good.
Ai need a command.
God gives them Come on.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Look, I'm not going to preach in here but I'm trying
to tell somebody something.
Why should you be afraid of AIwhen you have the I in?
The robot's going to get it,the robot's going to get me.
Listen, that's going to be arapture before there is the
three and a half years oftribulation that comes.
So the tribulation is comingfirst.
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Now some people believe thatwe're in a post-tribulation
period and the tribulation hasalready happened, with all this
evil and stuff that's going onin the world.
No, I don't believe that,because if the tribulation has
already happened, then therapture has already happened.
Some people think thetribulation will be first, then
the rapture.
No, we're going to be rapturedout of here, the believers, the
righteous in Christ going to beraptured out.
Then the three and a half years, the first three and a half
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years of the seven year,tribulation is going to start
happening.
So don't worry about AI youhave.
I am Amen.
The end is coming, but we gotto be strong, we got to be ready
, amen.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Good stuff.
I love all of that.
So much to think about, and Ilove that.
So, again, today we're going totalk about strength and
adversity and uncertainty, andone of you know we'll start with
this comment, and that is thisGod equips his people with
strength and peace to handleadjustments and trials.
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You know, one of the firstquestions we have to ask
ourselves is if we believe that.
I 100 percent believe it, evenwhen I feel faint.
I believe that this, that thisis true because when I feel
faint more often than not isbecause I'm looking more at my
issue, I'm looking more at mysituation than I am at my God.
But the reality is is that I100 percent believe that God
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equips his people with bothstrength and peace to handle
adjustments and trials.
And, first of all, I can't helpbut to start with the reality
that we have the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Right, let's just start there.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I mean we have the Holy Spirit, but we also have
his word.
You know what I mean, and so I100 percent believe this is true
.
And one of the things that Ihave learned is that whether or
not we believe a thing does not,does not devalue the truth, and
you know what I mean.
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It does not devalue the truthof it, and so we can, we.
I think it's okay for us toaccept, in those times when I do
, when we may go throughsomething and say, well, I just
don't know right now, that'sokay, because in a few minutes
you will know.
You know that's, that's theprocess.
In a few minutes you will know,because why we have this
experiential knowledge that wecan't rid of Now.
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That's the truth, that we mighthit a spot, and it's so hard
and it's so challenging that itmakes us question.
But right after those fewmoments, we remember the
goodness of God, we rememberwhere he brought us from, we
remember, because why the HolySpirit brings it back to our
remembrance the things that Godhas already done.
You know, the stuff that wethought was hard and we weren't
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going to make it out of before.
But yet here we are.
We're still here.
Glory be to God.
Why?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because God equipped us with both strength and peace,
you're reminding me of thestory in the Gospels, when Jesus
was preparing his disciples forhis death and he was telling
them that he was going to begoing away and going to be with
the father.
He was going to be crucifiedand he said let not your heart
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be troubled.
If you believe in God, alsobelieve in me.
He started giving them comfort.
In my father's house there aremany mansions.
I go to prepare a place for you.
If it were not so, I wouldn'thave told you, but I'm going to
prepare this place.
Where I am, you may be also.
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He was giving them thatstrength, that confidence that
he wasn't leaving them asorphans.
That's what he said.
He said I will not leave youcomfortless.
In a different passage he saidI will not leave you comfortless
.
In a different passage, he saysI will not leave you
comfortless.
He said but the comforter iscoming.
I will send a comforter to youand he will lead you and guide
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you into all truth.
Truth is strength.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's beautiful, that's the truth, right the Holy
Ghost is giving me truth aboutsomething I'm going through.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
He's giving me revelry, he's speaking to me,
he's giving me peace by lettingme know I can sense his presence
with me.
He gave me confirmation bysending somebody, or I read a
word and I can hear that smallstill voice of God whispering in
my soul saying this is mypromise to you right now, soul
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saying this is my promise to youright now.
See, we have to remember thatwe are in a profound
relationship with the all loving, almighty, all powerful God,
and so, while we're goingthrough what we're going through
, he is being provider, he isbeing healer, he is being
deliverer, he is being revealer,he is being sustainer in
everything that we're facing,absolutely as we go through
these uncertain times toward theend times and Christ's return.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Absolutely Well, one of our scriptures today is
Isaiah 41 and 10.
And that you want to read that.
You want to read that?
Sure, this is a beautifulscripture I love this.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Isaiah 41 and 10 says this fear not.
I kind of want to shout it, Iwant to preach it, but I'm just
trying to read it Right Fear not, ladies and gentlemen, if
you're listening, you tune in.
Fear not.
He says Watch this.
But why not?
Why not Right?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Fear not, but why?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
not, for I am with God.
You right now, help me not topreach this, angela.
Don't preach it, okay, for not,for I am with you.
Be not dismayed, for I am yourGod, my God, I will strengthen
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you.
Uh-huh, I will help you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Uh-huh will help you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
My God, isn't that beautiful, that is so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
How many I wills do we have in this?
How many times does God saywhat he will do?
If he hadn't done it yet, hewill do it.
He says three times.
He says I will strengthen you.
God's going to strengthen us.
Every time in what we deal with, he says I will.
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I'm not just going tostrengthen you, get you back up
on your feet and help you exhaleagain and get a clear mind.
I'm not only going tostrengthen you, but now I'm
going to help you.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
My God, whatever that help is.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Exactly Believe me for financial help, believe me
for healing of sickness anddisease, believe on my help for
wisdom, believe on my help forGod.
Then he says I will uphold youand I love this with my
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righteous right hand.
And I think the writer here wasled to put in righteous because
it shows that God is no respectof person, because righteous
mean he's just Come on, he'sfair, he's no respect of person.
He is the God of morality, ofcharacter, of truth.
He's going to do what is rightwhen you're in his hands.
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So, whether you're wrong, he'sstill loving and righteous.
He's going to give you a secondchance.
Whether you messed up, he'supholding you in his righteous
right hand.
Right hand, biblically, is thehand of power.
So he said I got this power,but I'm going to yield it fairly
and justly and good in yourlife, because this power comes
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from a righteous place.
Yeah, my judgment is righteous.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know, as I think about this, you know, this is
one of those.
For me, this is one of thosescriptures that you say back to
God, because this is a promise.
These are promises, you know,and it's like sometimes it's
good for us to say God's promise.
God, you promised that youwould help me.
God, you promised that you werewith me.
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You promised that you wouldstrengthen me.
You know what I'm saying when wefind ourselves in those
depleted places or those placesof lack and all those things.
Is, you know, it's it's.
You said.
You told me not to fear God,but I'm feeling a little fearful
.
But, god, I'm trying not tofear because you told me you
were going to be with me.
God, I'm not going to bedismayed, god, I'm trying not to
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be dismayed.
Why?
Because you told me that youare my God.
Oh, my goodness.
And we make it so personal andsay it back to him, my goodness.
And we make it so personal andsay it back to him, and I think
that there's something sopowerful and so transformational
that happens when we say backto our God the very thing that
he said he would do for us.
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I think it's something sotransformational, my God.
I'm always stuck at what I wantto call you.
Do I want to call you doctor?
Do I want to call you apostle?
I like apostle because that'swhat's in my soul, so I'm going
to say apostle.
It is something sotransformational when we say
back to God what God has said tous.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Jesus every time you say that, Jesus Every time you
say it, Jesus.
I see a little child talking tohis father.
Absolutely, I see this sayingDaddy, remember you said you
were going to bake cookies withme.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You said you were going to.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know what I mean, like you're telling them what
he said.
Absolutely, daddy.
You said you were going to behere for my recital Watch this.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And in the natural parent, in the human, what
happens?
There is an action that takesplace, there's an action,
there's a movement that happens.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Because integrity clicks in.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yes, Love is already on the table.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But integrity kicks in, absolutely.
Character kicks in oh, this isgood.
Morality kicks in.
Character kicks in.
Morality kicks in.
My daughter is holding me toher word.
So I have to exemplify beforeher, I have to model who I want
her to be.
So if I want her to have moralsand character, she must see it
first in me that I kept my wordto teach her to keep her.
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And that's how God deals withus.
So I keep sensing thisprophetically.
I don't know who this is for,but get back to being a child
before your Abba, father.
I love that, if you can takeoff the title, the power, the
money, the mask, theresponsibility, take your cape
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off, take off your Wonder Womanwristbands, take off your
Spider-Man mask, yeah, and getback to Abba.
The Bible says that he is ourfather.
Therefore we cry out to himAbba, yeah, daddy, come on
somebody.
Yeah out to him.
Abba, daddy, come on somebody.
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Get back to having that posture, the heart posture of a child
before God, so he can instructyou and I hear that so he can
instruct you in your ways, sothat you can have strength in
adversity and uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And how much more powerful Apost, know, apostle,
is it when you're doing this andyou know that you're talking to
the God who does not lie, whoseword does not return to him,
void.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
God.
All he wants to know is thatyou believe in him, my God that
is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Without faith it's impossible to please God
Absolutely.
He that cometh, must youbelieve in him.
My God, that is so powerful,Without faith it's impossible to
please God.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
That's what the word says.
Absolutely, he that cometh mustfirst believe.
The Bible scripture says hethat comes to God must first,
must first.
It's not about getting on yourknees first.
Getting on our knees is not thefirst act of belief.
It is what we say in our heartis the first act of belief.
So before I get on my knees,I've already said in my heart I
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believe in God for this.
So the scripture says he thatcomes to God must first believe
that he is my father, he's mydaddy, he's my provider, he has
a righteous right hand, that heis and that he is a rewarder
unto them who diligently seekafter him, and diligent don't
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mean repeating your prayer overand over and over.
Diligent means obeying God andwalking up right before him.
That's diligently seeking.
People think diligently seekingis that I keep on talking to
God about the same thing andpraying about the same thing and
I even fast for the same thing.
That's even fast for the samething.
That's not what he's talkingabout.
That's not me seeking after God.
That's me seeking after whatGod can do.
Diligently seeking after him isMatthew 6 and 33.
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Seek ye first the kingdom ofGod and his righteousness, and
all things will be added untoyou.
Powerful.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Absolutely.
I'm sorry, don't be sorry, theHoly Ghost prophets, prophetic
movements, on this.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm telling you this is so prophetic.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Amen, yeah.
So let's look at Philippians 4,12 and 13.
I think you know there's a lotof believers that probably know
that one right off Philippians 4, 12, 13.
I'm going to read it from theNIV Jesus, where'd it go?
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All right, here we go.
I know what it is to be in needand I know what it is to have
plenty.
I have learned the secret ofbeing content in any and every
situation.
That's so powerful.
Being content in any and everysituation that's so powerful,
whether well fed or hungry,whether living in plenty or in
want.
I can do all this through him,who gives me strength.
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What you think about that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
When I listen to that and I read that, the first
thing I hear is that quote isthat the end justifies the means
, because the end in this iscontentment.
That's the end game.
Therefore, in order for God tomake me a person to be content,
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he has to take me through somelow times.
Absolutely, I have to gothrough times of need and lack
and difficulty in order to evenunderstand contentment, because
if I'm always high on themountaintop, everything always
perfect, it's not contentment,because the minute something
breaks or falls or crumbles orcollapse around me and I've
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never gone through anything hardI will not have no contentment
in the low place If I go frombeing a millionaire to being
broke or average, or average.
If I've been a millionaire 20years and before I became a
millionaire I wasn't broke, Ididn't go through that Right,
right, and then, after the 20years I've been a millionaire, I
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lose it all.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I haven't gone through anything hard.
Yeah, it's a potential.
I jump off a roof and killmyself, commit suicide, mm-hmm,
yep, because I'm not going tohave contentment.
Yeah, I'm not how to be stablein need and I've learned how to
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be stable when I have successand I have abundance.
So I've learned to be contentwith whatever state.
That's the first thing that hitme when you're going through
hard times.
Just know it's a part of theprocess.
God has to let us go.
Everybody goes to a season oflack.
Everybody goes through a seasonof lack.
Everybody goes through a seasonof brokenness.
Everybody goes through times oflows and valleys, but that is a
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part of the process ofspiritual maturity Come on
somebody and maturity in general, absolutely.
And he says here's the end gameagain, that that you can do all
things through christ whostrengthens me.
Yes, the end game is to learnchrist's strength amen that's
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very good, to learn that he's inyou, strong in you, yeah, and
that he can bring you throughanything, yeah.
The end game is to know thepower of god absolutely, and to
know the power of his suffering,of Christ's suffering.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Absolutely.
Oh Jesus, that's so good,that's really good, and I think
Ruth is a really good person forus to talk about today.
Concerning this, you know, weknow in the book of Ruth,
beginning in chapter one, if wecan go there.
First of all, what we knowhappened in her life is that her
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husband died, yeah, and sheexperienced a new beginning yeah
, but in order to experiencethat new beginning, she had to
leave where she was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
She did.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
She had to leave her hometown.
She had to leave everything shehad had known.
But what's so beautiful is thatshe made a decision.
She made the decision to leavebecause, actually, naomi didn't
even ask her to go.
Right, yeah, she made adecision.
Oh, my goodness, I don't know.
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That feels like I could gosomewhere with that, you know.
But OK, so, and so we see herin this season of adjustment.
After the death of her husband,ruth left her homeland of Moab
to journey with hermother-in-law, naomi, to
Bethlehem.
And the scripture we're going totalk about a little bit Ruth,
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chapter 1, verse 16, when shesays where you go, I will go
right, and where you stay, Iwill stay.
Your people will be my peopleand your God my God.
That is such a powerful,powerful statement.
I want to, I want to shout outthe Naomi's in our day and time.
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That's good, because the onlyway that, in my opinion, the
only way Ruth was able to saywhat she said, is because she
saw something in Naomi.
Yeah, and so, for every womanand even man that has shown the
love of God, who has, who hasexpressed it outwardly, the
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character of God, who hasexpressed it outwardly, the
character of God, where it is soattractive that people want to
be so much like you in the senseof serving the God that you
serve, doing what you do for God, they want to.
I'm going to say copycat thatbecause they believe so much in
the God that you serve, I wantto shout you out because that's
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a beautiful statement she justmade In 16, where you go, I will
go.
What, why, why, why do you wantto go?
Where I go?
I'm convinced it's because shesaw.
She saw something that Naomirepresented, something that
Naomi represented, and so forthose who are doing that that's
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helping to draw people intotheir right places I want to
shout you out.
She said where you go, I willgo.
Where you stay, I will stay.
Your people will be my peopleand your God my God.
Wow, that is so powerful.
What does that say?
What does that say about numberone?
I want to say naomi, but alsowhat did root see?
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What, what, what godlyattributes were there that she
saw in this difficult time?
Because she didn't.
I mean, sometimes it's it'shard for people to leave where
they've been their whole life.
Right, it's hard to leavefamily behind.
Right, to aspire to what youdon't even know you're aspiring
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to Right, to grab a hold of whatyou may have just gotten a
glimpse of through the life ofsomebody else.
Oh Jesus, yeah, that ispowerful, powerful.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I'm powerful, powerful.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, I'm sitting over here.
One thought for me, angela, ishow, at different times, we have
split personalities.
God can be calling us intoanother season.
He could be drawing us intoanother phase of our assignment
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and purpose in life.
Yeah, and we could be both Ruthand Orpah at the same time, yep
.
A part of us says yes, god,wherever you, you take me and
show me, yeah.
But then when God give us someof the more difficult details,
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we become Orpah and we say no, Ican't do that.
We turn back Yep.
And so for me, you know, thelesson to me in this is to get
the Orpah out.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's good, that's so prophetic.
Get the Orpah out of you.
What Orpah didn't have wastrust in Naomi.
She didn't have trust inNaomi's God.
She couldn't see past Naomi'sbrokenness and past Naomi's
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failure.
She compared who Naomi was inher situation and judged her
future.
She looked at her in her nowbecause of her difficulties and
judge their future, and she, shecomplied with Naomi's
bitterness.
See, sometimes you have to bethe one to motivate your leader.
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You got to be the one tomotivate the people that's
motivating you, rather than tosuccumb to their demotivation.
She's hurting, yeah.
So where the Ruth comes in, itbecomes the motivator.
Now, where you go, I'm going,where your God is, I'm going to
what you're doing, I'm doing,and she becomes the motivator
that Naomi needs.
Come on, somebody.
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And so we have to remember thatwe have a service.
This has got to be prophetic.
God still wants to use you.
Just because somebody is at ahigher level than you Doesn't
mean you don't have the value tospeak up that's right and tell
them you can make it, you've gotthis, you can do this.
Come on.
Oh, just because she thoughther assignment was over doesn't
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mean yours wasn't just beginning.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Absolutely, because look see, one of the things that
I see in the dynamic, and Ithink it's because, for one, I
feel like I I can relate toNaomi in in a lot of different
ways when you're, when you'vebeen in a position where you are
able to pour into the lives ofother as a female, for me, other
women, I've poured into youngmen, men like whatever, but
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specifically I'm talking aboutwomen, young women, where that's
like daughters, right, becausethis is her.
Ruth is Naomi's daughter,daughter-in-law.
However, naomi in this whole,in this whole scenario, lost the
most.
She lost the most and I amconvinced that, before the loss
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that Naomi became the motherfigure, which is a nurturer,
which is one who poured.
See, I see Naomi as a poorer Ijust made up a word.
She was a poorer, right, becauseyou know, think about, these
are in-laws, these are in-laws.
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These are not girls that shebirthed from her own loins, but
these are in-laws, and I amconvinced that she poured into
them in such a mighty andpowerful way that became
extremely attractive, becausethis is in Moab.
So they were, they were dealingwith some different gods than
the god of Naomi, right?
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I believe that Naomi pouredbefore all of the stuff that
happened to her happened.
She poured into these girls ina powerful way that made Naomi's
God attractive, and I like whatyou said, because there is this
split personality happeningwithin these two people and Ruth
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, whereby Ruth is, I believe,holds on to the poor.
I feel like I just wanted torun around the room.
Do you understand?
Ruth held on to the poor, butOrpah did not.
And when you don't hold on tothe poor P-O-U-R, and this
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person who is in this leadershiprole experiences calamity, you
no longer see them in the rightlight.
Oh, that's so good, and choosethen to go back.
I love the way you said that,because again, there's a strong
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for me, there's a strongnurturing thing, and I think you
even see it once they got toBethlehem and she began to tell
you know, ruth, this is what youdo, that is what you do.
And then think you even see itonce they got to Bethlehem and
she began to tell you know, ruth, this is what you do, that is
what you do.
And then, when she had the baby, naomi took the baby herself,
you know, to help raise the babyagain, nurture that.
I believe that wasinstinctively who she was and
what she did.
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You know what I'm saying and Ithink it is so powerful that in
a time of difficulty andbitterness, as you said, that
Ruth was able to hold on to thepoor.
Yeah, p-o-u-r, yeah, and say toNaomi uh-uh.
I know you telling me to stayhere, but if you're not here,
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I'm not, but I'm going where yougo, you know, oh my God, oh my
God.
And watch this, because we'retalking about, we're talking
about adjustments and we'retalking about to having that
strength and adversity anduncertainty.
Because, although you know,ruth makes this confession of
where you go, I go, where youlive, I live the you know where
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the God you serve I serve, whileshe makes that proclamation,
there still is the reality ofadversity because she's leaving
everybody she's ever known.
Right, she still, she still hasto.
She's making a decision.
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That's not an easy one.
We read this and it sounds easyand it is very commendable, but
that could not have been an easychoice.
But yet she drew, I believe shedrew strength from the god that
naomi I'm about to follow rightnow, the God that I believe
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Naomi taught her about, and Ibelieve she drew strength in
that God.
Naomi, if he could do all thatyou told me he did for you, then
I'm convinced, even if I leavehere, he can do the same for me.
Isn't that beautiful?
It really is.
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That is beautiful.
You got some thoughts I cantell you, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Oh, I got a lot of thoughts.
Are they all in here?
You know, I think it'simportant for us to practice
wisdom, to know who is with usfor who we are versus who is
with us for what we're pouring.
Yeah, because Ruth was withNaomi for who Naomi was.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yes, it don't matter if you ain't gotten it, I'm here
, I'm here.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It's you, I mean.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
But Orpah, I love that.
I just feel like that's a Selah, moment.
Come on, jesus, that's so good.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah Shut up.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Don't start me, I'm trying to hold.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
The fire will burn in here.
The fire will burn, this is aprophetic teaser.
The fire will burn.
Holy Ghost Hold on one second.
Because I'm messed up over here, because you don't find that
often, when people are with you,for you and not for what you
can do for them.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
But for who you are, I'm here for you.
It's you, I need it's you.
And so we have to know whenpeople are with us for us or for
what we can do for them.
The moment that Naomi concludedher cup was dry, her flask of
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oil had run out Orpah looked andsaid there's nothing else she
can do for me.
So for whatever, for the restof what I want for my life,
orpah is saying for me to getrest of what I want for my life,
for me to get with everythingelse that I want in my life.
I got to leave Naomi becauseshe was there for what she was
pouring, but Ruth said you ain'tgot.
Listen, I know who you are.
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I know who you are and I'veseen your strength, I've seen
your tenacity.
I've seen your bounce back whenyour husband died.
I've seen your bounce back whenyour first son died.
I've seen your bounce back whenyour second son died.
I know the only reason you'resaying this now is because
you've been through so much andyou're just waiting right now.
But I'm going to stay with youbecause what I know is you are
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just a jewel, you are God'schosen vessel and I'm supposed
to be with you.
I've learned God throughlearning God through you.
I've learned God through you.
Let me come back down afterjust a moment.
This translates to ourrelationship with God,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
That's exactly how it's going.
We've got to be with Godbecause he's God, not because
he's a giver.
That's it Not for what he can.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
God Not because he's a giver, not for what he can do.
So in those times when God'snot doing what we want him to be
doing, when he's not pouringthe stuff that he's been pouring
that made life happy andjoyfulness and giggling, when
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God stops pouring the all ofabundance for a moment to pour
the all of suffering, we have tostand under that all of
suffering and say things may notbe the way I want them or the
way they used to be, but I'mholding on to God, I'm holding
on to my faith, walking in him.
I'm holding on to my testimony.
I'm going to keep praising.
I'm going to keep tellingeverybody how good he is, every
day, even in my suffering.
It takes me to that passage ofScripture that says the joy of
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the Lord is my strength, MeaningI have joy in being one with
Him.
So my joy that I have being onewith Him is why I have strength
in this.
It didn't say the joy of whatthe Lord can do for me.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
My God, that's so good.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
it routes us right back to Philippians 4.
It routes us right back.
You know learning.
I like this other version thatI have.
I know how to be brought lowand I know how to abound In any
and every circumstance.
I have learned the secret offacing plenty and hunger,
abundance and need, and then theclose out.
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I can do all things through himwho strengthens, so at the end
he reveals the secret.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
That's it.
It's doing it all in Christ.
Come on now.
Suffering in Christ, yes,suffer in Christ yes, abound in
Christ yes, greatness in Christyes, low place in Christ, yes,
palace in Christ, prison inChrist, yep, you know Yep.
Moab in Christ Bethlehem inChrist?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Absolutely, because, even think about it, ruth and
Orpah had to have a relationshipas well.
Come on.
So Ruth even walked away fromthat.
No, I'm saying when she leftMoab, oh, okay.
I'm sorry, that's okay, no, no,no, it's okay, thank you.
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When she left Moab, she wasalso leaving her sister-in-law.
Yes, she wasab.
She was also leaving hersister-in-law.
Yes, she was.
What if she would have beeninfluenced by Orpah's decision?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Don't let people who lead a post influence you to
leave yours.
Oh my God, that happens whenpeople leave church.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Mob mentality.
I'm leaving, you leaving, I'mleaving.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
God didn't tell you to move.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Sit down, exactly Sit down, sit down.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
God didn't tell you to move?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Sit down, exactly, sit down, sit down.
God didn't tell you to move.
You know that's powerful.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
That's so good, that is so powerful.
Don't let sisterhood influenceyou the step out of the glory,
oh my God.
Oh my God, okay, I'm sorry.
Don't let brotherhood influenceyou the step away from somebody
.
Go ahead, angela, but I lovethis thing here in this final
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sentence in Philippians 4, 13.
Paul says I can do all things.
He understands the reality thatGod leaves certain things for
you to face, that fire isintended for you to walk through
.
I'm in it with you, but you gotto come into this fire
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believing, sit in this fire,believing so you can walk out of
this fire, Yep absolutely.
You got to come into this lion'sden believing, so that means
you got to pray like Danielthree times to the east every
day.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
We're going to some statue.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, it's put up, yeah, yeah.
And so if they throw you inhere, you got to come into this
lion's den belief, and sometimesit's so hard, it's so
challenging, because we're human.
But shake off your fears, yeah,pray, sit with God, build up
your spiritual fervor and comeat that thing with everything
you got, roar at it, rebuke it,holler at it, scream at it,
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praise and cry.
But hang on in there becauseafter this, oh, this adjustment
is temporary, this adjustment istemporary.
And so, getting back to thelesson, we see Ruth hanging on
to Naomi.
Her adjustment was temporary,absolutely.
She lost one husband, ah, yes,but staying with the one she
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loved, yeah, staying in positionin her assignment, yeah,
fighting strength in thatrelationship led her to her boy
ass.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Absolutely.
Oh, come on in here.
Yeah her to her boy ass oh comeon in here.
Yeah, you know, and I always,every time I think about the
story about Ruth and Naomi, Ialways think about how Ruth
never gave birth in Moab.
It wasn't until she was in theplace of planning.
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She was in this healthy placewhich was the place of Bethlehem
.
You know what I'm saying, thatshe was even able to birth a
child, and we know the storythere.
So you know, sometimes thesechanges and the adversity, god
is moving us from one place toanother place, sometimes Because
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the place that he wants us tobirth he needs to get us there,
or the thing he wants us tobirth, he has to get us in a
place where he wants it birth at.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, because some things can'tbe birthed where we are Right.
Sometimes he has to move us.
Yeah, that it can be birthed inthis new place.
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Yes, you know.
You know what I mean.
That's so good and I think thatthat's powerful.
That's all I'm going to sayabout that.
That is powerful.
That is powerful.
I can't birth it here.
If I birth it here, it'll die.
Come on, jesus, come on.
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So it is necessary.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
That environment and atmosphere can't support this
big thing that I'm getting readyto birth.
Come on, come on, it's notconducive, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
The environment is not conducive with the thing God
wants to birth out of me.
So it is necessary for him tomove me into an environment that
can help me to bring the thingforward, my God.
So sometimes, again going back,it's all going to work for our
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good.
We don't understand it now Ithink we talked about that in
the last episode.
We don't understand it now, butit's all going to work together
for our good.
We have to trust that God knowswhat he's doing In the last
episode we talked about.
He knows the plan we were inJeremiah.
He knows the plans that he hasfor us.
They are good and I needsomebody to park it that they
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are good and not evil.
They are good and not evil, andso when these adjustments come,
we have to remember not to callthem evil, because God knows
what he's doing.
He knows what he's doing andafter this, oh my God, we're
going to walk into somethinggreater, better.
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We're going to be wiser,stronger.
We're going to see God in wayswe've never seen him before and
we'll be able to praise God inways we've not praised him
before.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Jesus and we're going to come into the DNA of God.
We're going to get tied intothe lineage of something God
started long before us when weget into obedience and we're
allowed to play a role insomething profound and something
lasting, and something that isof the covenant and of the
kingdom.
Right here in our lesson itsays Ruth's faithfulness during
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a life altering loss brought herinto God's plan, leading to her
becoming part of the Jesuslineage.
Amen.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, I think last episode didn't we talk about
elevation.
We talked about all of it iselevation, all of it, all of it
is elevation.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Now, now, now, boaz and Ruth's child.
I'll go out on this limbbecause I don't quite remember
Boaz and Ruth's child.
Was that Jesse that theybirthed, or it was one?
Speaker 1 (52:30):
before Jesse, yeah, it was one before.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I can't remember the name of their seed.
It seemed like it started withan O.
That genealogy, was it Obed?
No, anyway, it leads to Jesse,then to David, and then David
then becomes the king of Israel.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
No, it is Obed.
Okay, so it's Obed.
It's Obed then, jesse, thenDavid, okay, obed.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah.
So when Ruth stayed faithfulwith God, followed Naomi even
when she didn't feel like shehad anything to offer, because
she was in it for the rightreason Got to Bethlehem and even
though Naomi didn't have a sonto introduce her to, she had a
sibling to introduce her to, andBoaz is Ruth's cousin.
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It's Naomi's cousin, and soNaomi makes sure that Ruth and
Boaz connect.
They get married.
Their first offspring is Obed.
Out of Obed, then comes Jesse.
Jesse is the father of David.
Come on somebody.
So God brings Ruth, a Moabitess, into the Hebrew lineage and
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we're talking about her storyright now.
Because she was faithful.
Because she was faithful, oh,my God, god's trying to work on
somebody's story.
My God, in this adjustment,this is a story adjustment.
Yeah, this is an adjustmentthat you're facing right now.
Listen to me.
You're facing this because Godis writing out your story, yep,
oh, and it's going to be greater.
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The end of a thing is greaterthan its beginning, says the
word of the Lord.
That's all we got time to giveyou on this.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Hallelujah, what a time.
What impactful informationabout a real topic Concerning
adjustments.
Man, I'm convinced thatsomebody was blessed by this.
I believe I was blessed by this.
You know this is this.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
This was a great, great opportunity to share
encouragement, and thank you forleading the way in this story
about strength and adversity anduncertainty and helping us to
look into the life of Ruth andhow she displayed that.
That we could do that today,that was really good, thank you
for that.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Amen, you're welcome, because the reality is is just
because we're facing adversitydoesn't mean we have to be
powerless, because we have thepower of the Holy Spirit living
on the inside of us.
God's on our side.
Amen.
You know we got this.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
We got this, Come on somebody.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
I need you to say that we got this.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
We got this.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Amen, Glory to God.
Well, once again, this has beenan amazing time, amazing
opportunity, and we're sograteful again for all of our
listeners.
I want to thank you, sir, forall of the man who was hitting
us real good, Right, left, right, right, left, right.
I was there like whoa whoa,whoa, whoa whoa, that was good.
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So many amazing nuggets.
We're so grateful for you.
You want to close us out.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, I just want to say you're not crazy, you're not
on the wrong track.
You're not on the wrong track,you're not on the wrong path.
God hasn't forgotten about you.
God hasn't left you.
He hasn't cut you off.
You need to know that.
But this transition that you'regoing through, this adjustment,
is for your greatness.
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It's for your story.
God's not nearly done with you.
I love that.
He has so much more for you.
Just make it through thisseason with a praise on your
store.
God's not nearly done with you.
He has so much more for you.
Just make it through thisseason with a praise on your
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Welcome, welcome.
Welcome once again to ouranother broadcast of our Daily
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amen, to be able to share a wordof wisdom, a word of
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You know, we believe that thisis such a great topic that can
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So, my wonderful guest not onlyis he intelligent, but he's a
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Thank you all for being here ontoday on the Daily Bread
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But we've been knowing eachother since seventh grade and
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We had some dating time.
Yep, we had some dating time.
So I pray God, we reared it allthe way I liked it.
I put a ring on it.
So amen, hallelujah, so gloryto God.
I'm glad to be here, heyeverybody, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Um, yes, always a joy to sit across the table to
discuss these topics and allowthe Lord to use us in such a
mighty and powerful way so thatthe body of believers is edified
.
That's always the goal that thebody of believers are edified
and that the enemy would behorrified.
So we give glory, I give Godglory for you and, again, for
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Thank you so very much fortuning in.
You could have been doinganything else, and so we don't
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So we're excited about that and we give God glory
.
So if you have been trackingwith this, then you know this is
part four of our topicadjustments.
Topic adjustments man, if thereis a time that we need to be
able to adjust, it is now.
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We have just entered 2025 and,man, we have some things to look
forward to.
And then there's a lot ofthings that we're not sure
what's going to happen.
But that's okay, because we'reon God's side and we know that
God is in control and he's gotus covered.
So we're excited about that.
So we just want to talk here inpart four, we're going to talk
about our sister Ruth.
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Today we're going to talk alittle bit about our sister Ruth
and focusing on strength inadversity and uncertainty.
Look at that Strength inadversity and uncertainty.
Look at that Strength andadversity and uncertainty.
So we're going to pray and thenwe'll get right into the topic
today and pray.
You're blessed, amen.
You'll join me in prayer.
Father, we bless you, we thankyou.
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We give you glory and honor andpraise.
We thank you for everyopportunity, god, that you
afford us just to be alive.
We thank you, god, that we'renot here by accident.
We thank you, god, that we'renot here by accident.
We thank you, god, that we'renot here by mistake, that all of
us are on a purposed hallelujahjourney.
And, god, we give you glory, nomatter what life has thrown at
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us, no matter what we've gonethrough, no matter what is going
on even in our right now.
God, your plan for us is goodand not evil, and we give you
glory and honor and praise.
Now I pray, god, that you willanoint the ear of the hearer
Hallelujah.
That you will allow us to heardeeper, god, in the name of
Jesus, to receive revelation insome shape, form or fashion by
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your Holy Spirit.
That, god, we will be betterequipped to handle what we're
facing, to be able to handlewhat we're going to face.
That you get all glory,hallelujah, out of every
situation, out of everychallenging time and every
challenging season of our life.
That, god, you will be able toget the glory.
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We give you glory, we give youhonor and, god, we give you
praise.
Have your way in this space,have your way over the airwaves.
Have your way, oh God, in thename of Jesus, like only you can
.
In Jesus' name, we pray, amenamen and amen.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So, hallelujah, god, my goodness, hallelujah, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So good God.
My goodness, that was such agood prayer moment.
Thank you so much.
Praise the Lord, hallelujah.
So of course, we started thisjourney talking about God's
sovereignty and control when wefirst started out and we looked
at Proverbs 3, 5, and 6, whichof course, focuses on trusting
in the Lord and then we moved onto embrace and change as part
(05:45):
of God's plan Yep.
And here we are.
Here we are as strength inadversity and uncertainty.
Can you talk to us a little bitabout that real quick?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah.
So facing adjustments in liferequire that we are anchored in
our faith and our belief systemin God.
The Bible says trust in theLord and lean not to your own
understanding, but in all yourways acknowledge him and he will
direct your path.
And one of the most uncertaintimes that we could face is when
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we are going through anadjustment, when there is a
change, a modification, a shift,whatever you want to call it, a
new season, when something ishappening that throws our system
and our cycle and pattern ofdoing things in a different
direction.
For example, when you relocateto another state, when your body
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gets, you get, an affliction,an ailment, a sickness, a
disease, or when you findyourself in the unemployment
line after 15 years of asuccessful career, when so much
is happening on the politicallandscape and you find yourself
feeling afraid of what's goingto happen next.
All of these are changes andadjustments that we face and
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that we are facing right now,and it is important to find
strength.
Where do we find that strength?
One place I go to all the timeis the Lord.
The Bible says the Lord is mystrength.
Yeah.
You know, what I mean.
He is our shield and ourbuckler.
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The Lord is my strong tower,you know, and so I.
Just that's where I like to go,you know, when it talks about
having strength and adversityand uncertainty, because we're
going to face uncertain timeswe're in uncertain times.
We don't know what's going tohappen not just from day to day,
from hour to hour.
If you're somebody who watchesthe news different times
throughout the day, you know fora fact it's changing.
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So much is changing becausethere's spiritual warfare that
is taking place.
There's a battle between goodand evil.
We're fighting principalitiesand powers and wickedness in
high places.
We're coming to the end times.
It's already been prophesied andwritten in the word of the Lord
that the end time is coming andChrist is coming back and y'all
we have to remember all thingsare moving toward the second
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coming of Jesus Christ.
So all things are moving tothis apocalyptic time when
Christ is going to return toredeem his church and his people
and then the new heaven and newearth is going to come down
here and there'll be a thousandyears of reign of peace in Jesus
Christ before the finaljudgment of Satan and the fallen
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angels.
So we have to understand thatthere's supposed to be turmoil,
there's supposed to be chaos andfires and earthquakes.
The Bible already talks aboutthis.
So as we move toward that endtime, we understand that we're
going to face an uncertainty andadversity and we've got to be
strong, and I'm sorry about thatlong.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, no, no, you know, it was just.
I just thought about that.
Yeah, that was really good.
You know, you got me thinkingwhen you were talking about the
different things that well,first of all, where we're headed
, yeah, and how these thingsthat we're seeing they're
supposed to happen.
It's in the word of God, yeah.
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And one of the things I thoughtabout is oftentimes, you know,
when we see those thingshappening, it creates, sometimes
it creates paralysis.
You know where we get kind ofparalyzed like, oh my God, we're
in so much shock and wow, andall of those different things.
And I think I'm saying that tosay I think it's so important
that these types of topics aretaught or talked about so that
it will help those who may fallinto that paralytic place where
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they just get paralyzed and donothing, you know, because of
that shock and that worry andthat concern.
But realize that you know, whenwe're on God's side, he's got
us Like that's a guarantee.
You know what I mean.
That is a guarantee.
So I just thought that was veryinteresting when you said that,
because I thought about how thenews can create that paralysis,
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because you know it's showingus the things that are happening
and can create fear and cancreate all of these things, and
I like the way you frame that,because you said we're headed
towards the second coming.
For those of us that arebelievers, that are Christians,
we know that Jesus is comingback.
So then we must understand thethings that we see as a part of
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the process.
However, then we have to say toourselves we must govern
ourselves accordingly, we mustgovern ourselves accordingly,
and so what is the identifier inthat?
It has to be the word of God,and who is the author of that?
It is God himself.
So then it is important for usto get to the place that we
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understand, accept, trust in,rely on that.
Any changes and adjustmentsthat are necessary, like God has
to be the foundation of it.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He has to be the foundation of what we do.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, and understanding like God's got me,
god's got me.
I see what's happening in theworld, but God's got me.
You know what things can I do.
You know in the process, youknow what I'm saying, what
things can I do, and I think ourtopic on adjustments have been
those types of tools to saythese are things that you can do
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.
First of all, we got tounderstand that God is sovereign
.
You know, we have to understandthat he's sovereign.
And then just look into ourtool chest of spiritual things,
our tool chest that's in theword of God, and where are we
slacking and do that.
You know what I'm saying.
Grow in those particular areas.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So are you going to say something.
I feel a prophetic anointing onthis teaching.
There is a prophetic power onthis teaching right now and it
is flowing in this room and Iknow that means the Holy Spirit
is a prophetic anointing goingout into the airwaves and if
you're listening, I want you totune in and get this.
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Here's one of the things Godplaced on my heart the moment
you started introducing thistopic.
The end is coming.
The end is coming is a reality,yeah, that we must digest and
live with and rejoice about,because the end for the kingdom
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is amazing amen but the end forthe wicked is not.
And it is our job as the end,knowing that the end is coming,
to walk in that revelation withjoy and to speed up our process
of spreading the gospel of JesusChrist to every nation and to
every tongue.
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End times were coming and therewould be wars, rumors of wars,
famine, earthquake in diverseplaces, fires, floods.
All of that is happening rightnow and we have all the
indicators and all themanifestations that we are
moving rapidly toward the secondcoming of Jesus Christ and
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moving toward the end times ofJesus Christ and moving toward
the end times.
And what is starting to happenis we're so paralyzed by the
news that we're starting to look, pay, give more credence and
attention to AI instead of the.
I am.
That's good, yeah, everybody'sabout AI.
This AI that AI is not morepowerful than I am.
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I love that AI stands forartificial intelligence, but the
all knowing AI is not morepowerful than I am.
I love that AI stands forartificial intelligence, but the
all-knowing God is omniscient.
He has all knowledge, my God,all of it.
See, ai is not faster than God.
God moves faster than the speedof sound.
Come on, somebody.
That's right.
Ai need a command.
God gives them.
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Come on.
That was good.
Ai need a command.
God gives them Come on.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Look, I'm not going to preach in here but I'm trying
to tell somebody something.
Why should you be afraid of AIwhen you have the I in?
The robot's going to get it,the robot's going to get me.
Listen, that's going to be arapture before there is the
three and a half years oftribulation that comes.
So the tribulation is comingfirst.
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Now some people believe thatwe're in a post-tribulation
period and the tribulation hasalready happened, with all this
evil and stuff that's going onin the world.
No, I don't believe that,because if the tribulation has
already happened, then therapture has already happened.
Some people think thetribulation will be first, then
the rapture.
No, we're going to be rapturedout of here, the believers, the
righteous in Christ going to beraptured out.
Then the three and a half years, the first three and a half
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years of the seven year,tribulation is going to start
happening.
So don't worry about AI youhave.
I am Amen.
The end is coming, but we gotto be strong, we got to be ready
, amen.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Good stuff.
I love all of that.
So much to think about, and Ilove that.
So, again, today we're going totalk about strength and
adversity and uncertainty, andone of you know we'll start with
this comment, and that is thisGod equips his people with
strength and peace to handleadjustments and trials.
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You know, one of the firstquestions we have to ask
ourselves is if we believe that.
I 100 percent believe it, evenwhen I feel faint.
I believe that this, that thisis true because when I feel
faint more often than not isbecause I'm looking more at my
issue, I'm looking more at mysituation than I am at my God.
But the reality is is that I100 percent believe that God
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equips his people with bothstrength and peace to handle
adjustments and trials.
And, first of all, I can't helpbut to start with the reality
that we have the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Right, let's just start there.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I mean we have the Holy Spirit, but we also have
his word.
You know what I mean, and so I100 percent believe this is true
.
And one of the things that Ihave learned is that whether or
not we believe a thing does not,does not devalue the truth, and
you know what I mean.
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It does not devalue the truthof it, and so we can, we.
I think it's okay for us toaccept, in those times when I do
, when we may go throughsomething and say, well, I just
don't know right now, that'sokay, because in a few minutes
you will know.
You know that's, that's theprocess.
In a few minutes you will know,because why we have this
experiential knowledge that wecan't rid of Now.
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That's the truth, that we mighthit a spot, and it's so hard
and it's so challenging that itmakes us question.
But right after those fewmoments, we remember the
goodness of God, we rememberwhere he brought us from, we
remember, because why the HolySpirit brings it back to our
remembrance the things that Godhas already done.
You know, the stuff that wethought was hard and we weren't
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going to make it out of before.
But yet here we are.
We're still here.
Glory be to God.
Why?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because God equipped us with both strength and peace,
you're reminding me of thestory in the Gospels, when Jesus
was preparing his disciples forhis death and he was telling
them that he was going to begoing away and going to be with
the father.
He was going to be crucifiedand he said let not your heart
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be troubled.
If you believe in God, alsobelieve in me.
He started giving them comfort.
In my father's house there aremany mansions.
I go to prepare a place for you.
If it were not so, I wouldn'thave told you, but I'm going to
prepare this place.
Where I am, you may be also.
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He was giving them thatstrength, that confidence that
he wasn't leaving them asorphans.
That's what he said.
He said I will not leave youcomfortless.
In a different passage he saidI will not leave you comfortless
.
In a different passage, he saysI will not leave you
comfortless.
He said but the comforter iscoming.
I will send a comforter to youand he will lead you and guide
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you into all truth.
Truth is strength.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's beautiful, that's the truth, right the Holy
Ghost is giving me truth aboutsomething I'm going through.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
He's giving me revelry, he's speaking to me,
he's giving me peace by lettingme know I can sense his presence
with me.
He gave me confirmation bysending somebody, or I read a
word and I can hear that smallstill voice of God whispering in
my soul saying this is mypromise to you right now, soul
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saying this is my promise to youright now.
See, we have to remember thatwe are in a profound
relationship with the all loving, almighty, all powerful God,
and so, while we're goingthrough what we're going through
, he is being provider, he isbeing healer, he is being
deliverer, he is being revealer,he is being sustainer in
everything that we're facing,absolutely as we go through
these uncertain times toward theend times and Christ's return.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Absolutely Well, one of our scriptures today is
Isaiah 41 and 10.
And that you want to read that.
You want to read that?
Sure, this is a beautifulscripture I love this.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Isaiah 41 and 10 says this fear not.
I kind of want to shout it, Iwant to preach it, but I'm just
trying to read it Right Fear not, ladies and gentlemen, if
you're listening, you tune in.
Fear not.
He says Watch this.
But why not?
Why not Right?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Fear not, but why?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
not, for I am with God.
You right now, help me not topreach this, angela.
Don't preach it, okay, for not,for I am with you.
Be not dismayed, for I am yourGod, my God, I will strengthen
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you.
Uh-huh, I will help you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Uh-huh will help you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
My God, isn't that beautiful, that is so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
How many I wills do we have in this?
How many times does God saywhat he will do?
If he hadn't done it yet, hewill do it.
He says three times.
He says I will strengthen you.
God's going to strengthen us.
Every time in what we deal with, he says I will.
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I'm not just going tostrengthen you, get you back up
on your feet and help you exhaleagain and get a clear mind.
I'm not only going tostrengthen you, but now I'm
going to help you.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
My God, whatever that help is.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Exactly Believe me for financial help, believe me
for healing of sickness anddisease, believe on my help for
wisdom, believe on my help forGod.
Then he says I will uphold youand I love this with my
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righteous right hand.
And I think the writer here wasled to put in righteous because
it shows that God is no respectof person, because righteous
mean he's just Come on, he'sfair, he's no respect of person.
He is the God of morality, ofcharacter, of truth.
He's going to do what is rightwhen you're in his hands.
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So, whether you're wrong, he'sstill loving and righteous.
He's going to give you a secondchance.
Whether you messed up, he'supholding you in his righteous
right hand.
Right hand, biblically, is thehand of power.
So he said I got this power,but I'm going to yield it fairly
and justly and good in yourlife, because this power comes
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from a righteous place.
Yeah, my judgment is righteous.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know, as I think about this, you know, this is
one of those.
For me, this is one of thosescriptures that you say back to
God, because this is a promise.
These are promises, you know,and it's like sometimes it's
good for us to say God's promise.
God, you promised that youwould help me.
God, you promised that you werewith me.
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You promised that you wouldstrengthen me.
You know what I'm saying when wefind ourselves in those
depleted places or those placesof lack and all those things.
Is, you know, it's it's.
You said.
You told me not to fear God,but I'm feeling a little fearful
.
But, god, I'm trying not tofear because you told me you
were going to be with me.
God, I'm not going to bedismayed, god, I'm trying not to
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be dismayed.
Why?
Because you told me that youare my God.
Oh, my goodness.
And we make it so personal andsay it back to him, my goodness.
And we make it so personal andsay it back to him, and I think
that there's something sopowerful and so transformational
that happens when we say backto our God the very thing that
he said he would do for us.
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I think it's something sotransformational, my God.
I'm always stuck at what I wantto call you.
Do I want to call you doctor?
Do I want to call you apostle?
I like apostle because that'swhat's in my soul, so I'm going
to say apostle.
It is something sotransformational when we say
back to God what God has said tous.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Jesus every time you say that, Jesus Every time you
say it, Jesus.
I see a little child talking tohis father.
Absolutely, I see this sayingDaddy, remember you said you
were going to bake cookies withme.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You said you were going to.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know what I mean, like you're telling them what
he said.
Absolutely, daddy.
You said you were going to behere for my recital Watch this.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And in the natural parent, in the human, what
happens?
There is an action that takesplace, there's an action,
there's a movement that happens.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Because integrity clicks in.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yes, Love is already on the table.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But integrity kicks in, absolutely.
Character kicks in oh, this isgood.
Morality kicks in.
Character kicks in.
Morality kicks in.
My daughter is holding me toher word.
So I have to exemplify beforeher, I have to model who I want
her to be.
So if I want her to have moralsand character, she must see it
first in me that I kept my wordto teach her to keep her.
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And that's how God deals withus.
So I keep sensing thisprophetically.
I don't know who this is for,but get back to being a child
before your Abba, father.
I love that, if you can takeoff the title, the power, the
money, the mask, theresponsibility, take your cape
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off, take off your Wonder Womanwristbands, take off your
Spider-Man mask, yeah, and getback to Abba.
The Bible says that he is ourfather.
Therefore we cry out to himAbba, yeah, daddy, come on
somebody.
Yeah out to him.
Abba, daddy, come on somebody.
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Get back to having that posture, the heart posture of a child
before God, so he can instructyou and I hear that so he can
instruct you in your ways, sothat you can have strength in
adversity and uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And how much more powerful Apost, know, apostle,
is it when you're doing this andyou know that you're talking to
the God who does not lie, whoseword does not return to him,
void.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
God.
All he wants to know is thatyou believe in him, my God that
is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Without faith it's impossible to please God
Absolutely.
He that cometh, must youbelieve in him.
My God, that is so powerful,Without faith it's impossible to
please God.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
That's what the word says.
Absolutely, he that cometh mustfirst believe.
The Bible scripture says hethat comes to God must first,
must first.
It's not about getting on yourknees first.
Getting on our knees is not thefirst act of belief.
It is what we say in our heartis the first act of belief.
So before I get on my knees,I've already said in my heart I
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believe in God for this.
So the scripture says he thatcomes to God must first believe
that he is my father, he's mydaddy, he's my provider, he has
a righteous right hand, that heis and that he is a rewarder
unto them who diligently seekafter him, and diligent don't
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mean repeating your prayer overand over and over.
Diligent means obeying God andwalking up right before him.
That's diligently seeking.
People think diligently seekingis that I keep on talking to
God about the same thing andpraying about the same thing and
I even fast for the same thing.
That's even fast for the samething.
That's not what he's talkingabout.
That's not me seeking after God.
That's me seeking after whatGod can do.
Diligently seeking after him isMatthew 6 and 33.
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Seek ye first the kingdom ofGod and his righteousness, and
all things will be added untoyou.
Powerful.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Absolutely.
I'm sorry, don't be sorry, theHoly Ghost prophets, prophetic
movements, on this.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm telling you this is so prophetic.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Amen, yeah.
So let's look at Philippians 4,12 and 13.
I think you know there's a lotof believers that probably know
that one right off Philippians 4, 12, 13.
I'm going to read it from theNIV Jesus, where'd it go?
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All right, here we go.
I know what it is to be in needand I know what it is to have
plenty.
I have learned the secret ofbeing content in any and every
situation.
That's so powerful.
Being content in any and everysituation that's so powerful,
whether well fed or hungry,whether living in plenty or in
want.
I can do all this through him,who gives me strength.
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What you think about that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
When I listen to that and I read that, the first
thing I hear is that quote isthat the end justifies the means
, because the end in this iscontentment.
That's the end game.
Therefore, in order for God tomake me a person to be content,
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he has to take me through somelow times.
Absolutely, I have to gothrough times of need and lack
and difficulty in order to evenunderstand contentment, because
if I'm always high on themountaintop, everything always
perfect, it's not contentment,because the minute something
breaks or falls or crumbles orcollapse around me and I've
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never gone through anything hardI will not have no contentment
in the low place If I go frombeing a millionaire to being
broke or average, or average.
If I've been a millionaire 20years and before I became a
millionaire I wasn't broke, Ididn't go through that Right,
right, and then, after the 20years I've been a millionaire, I
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lose it all.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I haven't gone through anything hard.
Yeah, it's a potential.
I jump off a roof and killmyself, commit suicide, mm-hmm,
yep, because I'm not going tohave contentment.
Yeah, I'm not how to be stablein need and I've learned how to
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be stable when I have successand I have abundance.
So I've learned to be contentwith whatever state.
That's the first thing that hitme when you're going through
hard times.
Just know it's a part of theprocess.
God has to let us go.
Everybody goes to a season oflack.
Everybody goes through a seasonof lack.
Everybody goes through a seasonof brokenness.
Everybody goes through times oflows and valleys, but that is a
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part of the process ofspiritual maturity Come on
somebody and maturity in general, absolutely.
And he says here's the end gameagain, that that you can do all
things through christ whostrengthens me.
Yes, the end game is to learnchrist's strength amen that's
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very good, to learn that he's inyou, strong in you, yeah, and
that he can bring you throughanything, yeah.
The end game is to know thepower of god absolutely, and to
know the power of his suffering,of Christ's suffering.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Absolutely.
Oh Jesus, that's so good,that's really good, and I think
Ruth is a really good person forus to talk about today.
Concerning this, you know, weknow in the book of Ruth,
beginning in chapter one, if wecan go there.
First of all, what we knowhappened in her life is that her
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husband died, yeah, and sheexperienced a new beginning yeah
, but in order to experiencethat new beginning, she had to
leave where she was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
She did.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
She had to leave her hometown.
She had to leave everything shehad had known.
But what's so beautiful is thatshe made a decision.
She made the decision to leavebecause, actually, naomi didn't
even ask her to go.
Right, yeah, she made adecision.
Oh, my goodness, I don't know.
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That feels like I could gosomewhere with that, you know.
But OK, so, and so we see herin this season of adjustment.
After the death of her husband,ruth left her homeland of Moab
to journey with hermother-in-law, naomi, to
Bethlehem.
And the scripture we're going totalk about a little bit Ruth,
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chapter 1, verse 16, when shesays where you go, I will go
right, and where you stay, Iwill stay.
Your people will be my peopleand your God my God.
That is such a powerful,powerful statement.
I want to, I want to shout outthe Naomi's in our day and time.
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That's good, because the onlyway that, in my opinion, the
only way Ruth was able to saywhat she said, is because she
saw something in Naomi.
Yeah, and so, for every womanand even man that has shown the
love of God, who has, who hasexpressed it outwardly, the
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character of God, who hasexpressed it outwardly, the
character of God, where it is soattractive that people want to
be so much like you in the senseof serving the God that you
serve, doing what you do for God, they want to.
I'm going to say copycat thatbecause they believe so much in
the God that you serve, I wantto shout you out because that's
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a beautiful statement she justmade In 16, where you go, I will
go.
What, why, why, why do you wantto go?
Where I go?
I'm convinced it's because shesaw.
She saw something that Naomirepresented, something that
Naomi represented, and so forthose who are doing that that's
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helping to draw people intotheir right places I want to
shout you out.
She said where you go, I willgo.
Where you stay, I will stay.
Your people will be my peopleand your God my God.
Wow, that is so powerful.
What does that say?
What does that say about numberone?
I want to say naomi, but alsowhat did root see?
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What, what, what godlyattributes were there that she
saw in this difficult time?
Because she didn't.
I mean, sometimes it's it'shard for people to leave where
they've been their whole life.
Right, it's hard to leavefamily behind.
Right, to aspire to what youdon't even know you're aspiring
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to Right, to grab a hold of whatyou may have just gotten a
glimpse of through the life ofsomebody else.
Oh Jesus, yeah, that ispowerful, powerful.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I'm powerful, powerful.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, I'm sitting over here.
One thought for me, angela, ishow, at different times, we have
split personalities.
God can be calling us intoanother season.
He could be drawing us intoanother phase of our assignment
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and purpose in life.
Yeah, and we could be both Ruthand Orpah at the same time, yep
.
A part of us says yes, god,wherever you, you take me and
show me, yeah.
But then when God give us someof the more difficult details,
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we become Orpah and we say no, Ican't do that.
We turn back Yep.
And so for me, you know, thelesson to me in this is to get
the Orpah out.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's good, that's so prophetic.
Get the Orpah out of you.
What Orpah didn't have wastrust in Naomi.
She didn't have trust inNaomi's God.
She couldn't see past Naomi'sbrokenness and past Naomi's
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failure.
She compared who Naomi was inher situation and judged her
future.
She looked at her in her nowbecause of her difficulties and
judge their future, and she, shecomplied with Naomi's
bitterness.
See, sometimes you have to bethe one to motivate your leader.
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You got to be the one tomotivate the people that's
motivating you, rather than tosuccumb to their demotivation.
She's hurting, yeah.
So where the Ruth comes in, itbecomes the motivator.
Now, where you go, I'm going,where your God is, I'm going to
what you're doing, I'm doing,and she becomes the motivator
that Naomi needs.
Come on, somebody.
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And so we have to remember thatwe have a service.
This has got to be prophetic.
God still wants to use you.
Just because somebody is at ahigher level than you Doesn't
mean you don't have the value tospeak up that's right and tell
them you can make it, you've gotthis, you can do this.
Come on.
Oh, just because she thoughther assignment was over doesn't
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mean yours wasn't just beginning.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Absolutely, because look see, one of the things that
I see in the dynamic, and Ithink it's because, for one, I
feel like I I can relate toNaomi in in a lot of different
ways when you're, when you'vebeen in a position where you are
able to pour into the lives ofother as a female, for me, other
women, I've poured into youngmen, men like whatever, but
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specifically I'm talking aboutwomen, young women, where that's
like daughters, right, becausethis is her.
Ruth is Naomi's daughter,daughter-in-law.
However, naomi in this whole,in this whole scenario, lost the
most.
She lost the most and I amconvinced that, before the loss
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that Naomi became the motherfigure, which is a nurturer,
which is one who poured.
See, I see Naomi as a poorer Ijust made up a word.
She was a poorer, right, becauseyou know, think about, these
are in-laws, these are in-laws.
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These are not girls that shebirthed from her own loins, but
these are in-laws, and I amconvinced that she poured into
them in such a mighty andpowerful way that became
extremely attractive, becausethis is in Moab.
So they were, they were dealingwith some different gods than
the god of Naomi, right?
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I believe that Naomi pouredbefore all of the stuff that
happened to her happened.
She poured into these girls ina powerful way that made Naomi's
God attractive, and I like whatyou said, because there is this
split personality happeningwithin these two people and Ruth
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, whereby Ruth is, I believe,holds on to the poor.
I feel like I just wanted torun around the room.
Do you understand?
Ruth held on to the poor, butOrpah did not.
And when you don't hold on tothe poor P-O-U-R, and this
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person who is in this leadershiprole experiences calamity, you
no longer see them in the rightlight.
Oh, that's so good, and choosethen to go back.
I love the way you said that,because again, there's a strong
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for me, there's a strongnurturing thing, and I think you
even see it once they got toBethlehem and she began to tell
you know, ruth, this is what youdo, that is what you do.
And then think you even see itonce they got to Bethlehem and
she began to tell you know, ruth, this is what you do, that is
what you do.
And then, when she had the baby, naomi took the baby herself,
you know, to help raise the babyagain, nurture that.
I believe that wasinstinctively who she was and
what she did.
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You know what I'm saying and Ithink it is so powerful that in
a time of difficulty andbitterness, as you said, that
Ruth was able to hold on to thepoor.
Yeah, p-o-u-r, yeah, and say toNaomi uh-uh.
I know you telling me to stayhere, but if you're not here,
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I'm not, but I'm going where yougo, you know, oh my God, oh my
God.
And watch this, because we'retalking about, we're talking
about adjustments and we'retalking about to having that
strength and adversity anduncertainty.
Because, although you know,ruth makes this confession of
where you go, I go, where youlive, I live the you know where
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the God you serve I serve, whileshe makes that proclamation,
there still is the reality ofadversity because she's leaving
everybody she's ever known.
Right, she still, she still hasto.
She's making a decision.
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That's not an easy one.
We read this and it sounds easyand it is very commendable, but
that could not have been an easychoice.
But yet she drew, I believe shedrew strength from the god that
naomi I'm about to follow rightnow, the God that I believe
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Naomi taught her about, and Ibelieve she drew strength in
that God.
Naomi, if he could do all thatyou told me he did for you, then
I'm convinced, even if I leavehere, he can do the same for me.
Isn't that beautiful?
It really is.
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That is beautiful.
You got some thoughts I cantell you, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Oh, I got a lot of thoughts.
Are they all in here?
You know, I think it'simportant for us to practice
wisdom, to know who is with usfor who we are versus who is
with us for what we're pouring.
Yeah, because Ruth was withNaomi for who Naomi was.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yes, it don't matter if you ain't gotten it, I'm here
, I'm here.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It's you, I mean.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
But Orpah, I love that.
I just feel like that's a Selah, moment.
Come on, jesus, that's so good.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah Shut up.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Don't start me, I'm trying to hold.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
The fire will burn in here.
The fire will burn, this is aprophetic teaser.
The fire will burn.
Holy Ghost Hold on one second.
Because I'm messed up over here, because you don't find that
often, when people are with you,for you and not for what you
can do for them.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
But for who you are, I'm here for you.
It's you, I need it's you.
And so we have to know whenpeople are with us for us or for
what we can do for them.
The moment that Naomi concludedher cup was dry, her flask of
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oil had run out Orpah looked andsaid there's nothing else she
can do for me.
So for whatever, for the restof what I want for my life,
orpah is saying for me to getrest of what I want for my life,
for me to get with everythingelse that I want in my life.
I got to leave Naomi becauseshe was there for what she was
pouring, but Ruth said you ain'tgot.
Listen, I know who you are.
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I know who you are and I'veseen your strength, I've seen
your tenacity.
I've seen your bounce back whenyour husband died.
I've seen your bounce back whenyour first son died.
I've seen your bounce back whenyour second son died.
I know the only reason you'resaying this now is because
you've been through so much andyou're just waiting right now.
But I'm going to stay with youbecause what I know is you are
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just a jewel, you are God'schosen vessel and I'm supposed
to be with you.
I've learned God throughlearning God through you.
I've learned God through you.
Let me come back down afterjust a moment.
This translates to ourrelationship with God,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
That's exactly how it's going.
We've got to be with Godbecause he's God, not because
he's a giver.
That's it Not for what he can.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
God Not because he's a giver, not for what he can do.
So in those times when God'snot doing what we want him to be
doing, when he's not pouringthe stuff that he's been pouring
that made life happy andjoyfulness and giggling, when
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God stops pouring the all ofabundance for a moment to pour
the all of suffering, we have tostand under that all of
suffering and say things may notbe the way I want them or the
way they used to be, but I'mholding on to God, I'm holding
on to my faith, walking in him.
I'm holding on to my testimony.
I'm going to keep praising.
I'm going to keep tellingeverybody how good he is, every
day, even in my suffering.
It takes me to that passage ofScripture that says the joy of
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the Lord is my strength, MeaningI have joy in being one with
Him.
So my joy that I have being onewith Him is why I have strength
in this.
It didn't say the joy of whatthe Lord can do for me.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
My God, that's so good.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
it routes us right back to Philippians 4.
It routes us right back.
You know learning.
I like this other version thatI have.
I know how to be brought lowand I know how to abound In any
and every circumstance.
I have learned the secret offacing plenty and hunger,
abundance and need, and then theclose out.
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I can do all things through himwho strengthens, so at the end
he reveals the secret.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
That's it.
It's doing it all in Christ.
Come on now.
Suffering in Christ, yes,suffer in Christ yes, abound in
Christ yes, greatness in Christyes, low place in Christ, yes,
palace in Christ, prison inChrist, yep, you know Yep.
Moab in Christ Bethlehem inChrist?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Absolutely, because, even think about it, ruth and
Orpah had to have a relationshipas well.
Come on.
So Ruth even walked away fromthat.
No, I'm saying when she leftMoab, oh, okay.
I'm sorry, that's okay, no, no,no, it's okay, thank you.
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When she left Moab, she wasalso leaving her sister-in-law.
Yes, she wasab.
She was also leaving hersister-in-law.
Yes, she was.
What if she would have beeninfluenced by Orpah's decision?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Don't let people who lead a post influence you to
leave yours.
Oh my God, that happens whenpeople leave church.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Mob mentality.
I'm leaving, you leaving, I'mleaving.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
God didn't tell you to move.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Sit down, exactly Sit down, sit down.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
God didn't tell you to move?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Sit down, exactly, sit down, sit down.
God didn't tell you to move.
You know that's powerful.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
That's so good, that is so powerful.
Don't let sisterhood influenceyou the step out of the glory,
oh my God.
Oh my God, okay, I'm sorry.
Don't let brotherhood influenceyou the step away from somebody
.
Go ahead, angela, but I lovethis thing here in this final
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sentence in Philippians 4, 13.
Paul says I can do all things.
He understands the reality thatGod leaves certain things for
you to face, that fire isintended for you to walk through
.
I'm in it with you, but you gotto come into this fire
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believing, sit in this fire,believing so you can walk out of
this fire, Yep absolutely.
You got to come into this lion'sden believing, so that means
you got to pray like Danielthree times to the east every
day.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
We're going to some statue.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, it's put up, yeah, yeah.
And so if they throw you inhere, you got to come into this
lion's den belief, and sometimesit's so hard, it's so
challenging, because we're human.
But shake off your fears, yeah,pray, sit with God, build up
your spiritual fervor and comeat that thing with everything
you got, roar at it, rebuke it,holler at it, scream at it,
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praise and cry.
But hang on in there becauseafter this, oh, this adjustment
is temporary, this adjustment istemporary.
And so, getting back to thelesson, we see Ruth hanging on
to Naomi.
Her adjustment was temporary,absolutely.
She lost one husband, ah, yes,but staying with the one she
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loved, yeah, staying in positionin her assignment, yeah,
fighting strength in thatrelationship led her to her boy
ass.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Absolutely.
Oh, come on in here.
Yeah her to her boy ass oh comeon in here.
Yeah, you know, and I always,every time I think about the
story about Ruth and Naomi, Ialways think about how Ruth
never gave birth in Moab.
It wasn't until she was in theplace of planning.
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She was in this healthy placewhich was the place of Bethlehem
.
You know what I'm saying, thatshe was even able to birth a
child, and we know the storythere.
So you know, sometimes thesechanges and the adversity, god
is moving us from one place toanother place, sometimes Because
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the place that he wants us tobirth he needs to get us there,
or the thing he wants us tobirth, he has to get us in a
place where he wants it birth at.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, because some things can'tbe birthed where we are Right.
Sometimes he has to move us.
Yeah, that it can be birthed inthis new place.
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Yes, you know.
You know what I mean.
That's so good and I think thatthat's powerful.
That's all I'm going to sayabout that.
That is powerful.
That is powerful.
I can't birth it here.
If I birth it here, it'll die.
Come on, jesus, come on.
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So it is necessary.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
That environment and atmosphere can't support this
big thing that I'm getting readyto birth.
Come on, come on, it's notconducive, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
The environment is not conducive with the thing God
wants to birth out of me.
So it is necessary for him tomove me into an environment that
can help me to bring the thingforward, my God.
So sometimes, again going back,it's all going to work for our
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good.
We don't understand it now Ithink we talked about that in
the last episode.
We don't understand it now, butit's all going to work together
for our good.
We have to trust that God knowswhat he's doing In the last
episode we talked about.
He knows the plan we were inJeremiah.
He knows the plans that he hasfor us.
They are good and I needsomebody to park it that they
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are good and not evil.
They are good and not evil, andso when these adjustments come,
we have to remember not to callthem evil, because God knows
what he's doing.
He knows what he's doing andafter this, oh my God, we're
going to walk into somethinggreater, better.
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We're going to be wiser,stronger.
We're going to see God in wayswe've never seen him before and
we'll be able to praise God inways we've not praised him
before.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Jesus and we're going to come into the DNA of God.
We're going to get tied intothe lineage of something God
started long before us when weget into obedience and we're
allowed to play a role insomething profound and something
lasting, and something that isof the covenant and of the
kingdom.
Right here in our lesson itsays Ruth's faithfulness during
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a life altering loss brought herinto God's plan, leading to her
becoming part of the Jesuslineage.
Amen.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, I think last episode didn't we talk about
elevation.
We talked about all of it iselevation, all of it, all of it
is elevation.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Now, now, now, boaz and Ruth's child.
I'll go out on this limbbecause I don't quite remember
Boaz and Ruth's child.
Was that Jesse that theybirthed, or it was one?
Speaker 1 (52:30):
before Jesse, yeah, it was one before.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I can't remember the name of their seed.
It seemed like it started withan O.
That genealogy, was it Obed?
No, anyway, it leads to Jesse,then to David, and then David
then becomes the king of Israel.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
No, it is Obed.
Okay, so it's Obed.
It's Obed then, jesse, thenDavid, okay, obed.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah.
So when Ruth stayed faithfulwith God, followed Naomi even
when she didn't feel like shehad anything to offer, because
she was in it for the rightreason Got to Bethlehem and even
though Naomi didn't have a sonto introduce her to, she had a
sibling to introduce her to, andBoaz is Ruth's cousin.
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It's Naomi's cousin, and soNaomi makes sure that Ruth and
Boaz connect.
They get married.
Their first offspring is Obed.
Out of Obed, then comes Jesse.
Jesse is the father of David.
Come on somebody.
So God brings Ruth, a Moabitess, into the Hebrew lineage and
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we're talking about her storyright now.
Because she was faithful.
Because she was faithful, oh,my God, god's trying to work on
somebody's story.
My God, in this adjustment,this is a story adjustment.
Yeah, this is an adjustmentthat you're facing right now.
Listen to me.
You're facing this because Godis writing out your story, yep,
oh, and it's going to be greater.
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The end of a thing is greaterthan its beginning, says the
word of the Lord.
That's all we got time to giveyou on this.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Hallelujah, what a time.
What impactful informationabout a real topic Concerning
adjustments.
Man, I'm convinced thatsomebody was blessed by this.
I believe I was blessed by this.
You know this is this.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
This was a great, great opportunity to share
encouragement, and thank you forleading the way in this story
about strength and adversity anduncertainty and helping us to
look into the life of Ruth andhow she displayed that.
That we could do that today,that was really good, thank you
for that.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Amen, you're welcome, because the reality is is just
because we're facing adversitydoesn't mean we have to be
powerless, because we have thepower of the Holy Spirit living
on the inside of us.
God's on our side.
Amen.
You know we got this.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
We got this, Come on somebody.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
I need you to say that we got this.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
We got this.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Amen, Glory to God.
Well, once again, this has beenan amazing time, amazing
opportunity, and we're sograteful again for all of our
listeners.
I want to thank you, sir, forall of the man who was hitting
us real good, Right, left, right, right, left, right.
I was there like whoa whoa,whoa, whoa whoa, that was good.
(55:35):
So many amazing nuggets.
We're so grateful for you.
You want to close us out.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, I just want to say you're not crazy, you're not
on the wrong track.
You're not on the wrong track,you're not on the wrong path.
God hasn't forgotten about you.
God hasn't left you.
He hasn't cut you off.
You need to know that.
But this transition that you'regoing through, this adjustment,
is for your greatness.
(56:03):
It's for your story.
God's not nearly done with you.
I love that.
He has so much more for you.
Just make it through thisseason with a praise on your
store.
God's not nearly done with you.
He has so much more for you.
Just make it through thisseason with a praise on your
lips and you're going to seeeverything new, everything new.
God has nothing but new thingsin store for you.
I want to leave you with thatin Jesus name.
Now, shameless plug.
Be on the lookout for my nextbook that is coming out.
(56:25):
Born to Overcome is based on atrue story of a young man by the
name of Overcomer who wentthrough some of the worst
situations in life and came outand walked into his greatness,
and in all those places he wasasking God all along why'd you
let this happen?
Where were you in this time?
Where were you in that time?
If you were God, why would thishappen to me?
And once he got at the end ofit he looked back and realized
(56:47):
God was with him all the time,by grace.
You've got to get.
It is a true story.
It is a dramatic true story.
You've got to get my next book,born to Overcome.
When it comes out it'll be TBN,amazon, born to Noble and
JarrellStokelycom.
So shameless plug.
Be on the lookout for it in thenext couple of months.
And to our sponsor,officialglorygearcom, I have on
(57:08):
my God is able hat, my God isable sweater.
It is quality material, amazingprint job.
I mean crystal clear on yourapparel.
They have hoodies, sweaters.
We have hoodies, sweaters, hats.
So if you can't make a donationinto what we're doing to keep
us on the air, if that's notyour thing making donations, you
know, at Covenantgracechurchorgor jarellstokelycom then go to
(57:29):
Glory Gear officialglorygearcomand buy some of the gear that
give God glory and spread themessage of Jesus Christ.
We got all kinds of ways foryou to sow into keeping us on
the air, even those that willbless you, by buying your
apparel t-shirts, hoodies,sweaters, hat, athletic attire
luggage bags from Glory Gear.
(57:50):
So go check us out,officialglorygearcom.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
All right.
Well, I think that wraps us up,right.
Wraps us up, all right.
Well, we look forward to seeingyou.
I'm sorry hearing you.
I mean you hearing from us,that's right, we want to hear
from you.
We got a lot of informationabout the Daily Bread.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
You can even go to dailybreadpodcastcom and it'll
take you directly to our podcastsite.
You can give there, leaveinformation.
Come on, connect with us,absolutely, please connect.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Absolutely.
Don't leave us out here.
Don't leave us out here, allright.
God bless you.
God bless you.
Thank you, bye-bye.
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