February 2, 2024 • 45 mins
Ever find yourself adrift in the vast ocean of life's uncertainties? Fear not, for Pastor Angela Stokely and I, Dr. Jarrell Stokely Jr., are here to guide you toward the lighthouse of faith and active participation in your own story. As we traverse through the unpredictable paths of new ventures and unforeseen events, we'll share with you how the fog of fear and doubt can actually herald the dawn of personal growth and the revelation of God's grand designs, all through the wisdom of 1 Corinthians 2:9.
Life is an expedition across three daunting frontiers: the unknown, the uncontrollable, and the unavoidable. In this episode, we illuminate the profound significance of embracing these elements with an open heart and unwavering faith. Our conversation delves into the liberating act of acknowledging our human limitations and the strategy of leaning on divine guidance for forward momentum. We'll inspire you to discover the serenity in releasing your tight grip on the uncontrollable and celebrate the growth that sprouts from the seeds of uncertainty.
Anxiety and stress may be familiar travelers on this journey, but they need not determine our route. Together with Pastor Angela's insights, we tackle how to cultivate a spiritual fortitude that counters these emotional storms, with Proverbs 12:25 and Philippians 4:6-7 as our anchors. We stress the importance of setting boundaries, fostering positive emotions, and entrusting our trials to God's care. As we dock at the end of our initial voyage into the mysteries of uncertainty, we hope you're now equipped with reflective tools to strengthen your faith and curiosity for the episodes ahead. Join us next time on Daily Bread, as we continue to fortify our collective resolve to navigate life's unpredictables, anchored in purpose and faith.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, welcome everyone.
It is good, good, good, goodgood to be with you on the day.
Welcome to Daily Bread.
This is your host, host andco-host.
Host and co-host, Dr JarrellStokely Jr and my wife, Pastor
Angela Stokely.
And welcome to this secondedition of Daily Bread.
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Daily Bread is your podcast,designed for you, to empower you
, to encourage you and to feedyou the relevant word of God and
practical principles foreveryday life, for you to walk
in the life and power that Godhas in store for your life.
So let me introduce my co-hostto you, Pastor Angela Stokely.
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Greetings everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey everybody, so good to be here, so glad you
guys have tuned in.
We look forward to sharing apowerful topic today and
breaking off some things that wefeel are great nuggets that can
help you, not only in thisseason of life, I feel like in
any season, because I think ourtopic today kind of covers life
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Right, so welcome.
Thank you all for tuning in.
We look forward to sharing withyou and hearing back from you
as well.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right.
So first let me say to ourlistening audience, to our
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could not do this without youlistening and participating.
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So thank you so much, andhopefully you're growing and
applying what you're learningToday.
We are going on an amazing,amazing journey.
I love this topic that we'retalking about today and will you
invite the audience to go on ajourney with us?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, absolutely, because we've realized that
that's really what life is.
Life is, in fact, a journey,and none of us are ever exempt
from this topic that we'regetting ready to talk about, and
so we want you to feel asthough you are coming along with
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us.
We wanna be able to share someof the things that we've learned
along the way.
We wanna be able to give younuggets and things that you can
apply to your life, that weapplied to our life from the
word of God practical things aswell, to help get you through
what we're gonna talk abouttoday.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So we wanna invite you to take this journey with us
, because it is in fact ajourney.
It is a step by step by step bystep, by step by step, and so
that is real and that's liferight.
That's what life is and it's ajourney and that's how you all
to see this as something thatyou are being asked to
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participate in You're asked to.
There's a part that you play.
There's a part that God plays,amen.
And that's how life is.
There's a part that we play, andthere's a part that God plays,
and we have to be mindful not toalways put the burden of all
things on God, because God hasequipped us, he's made us as
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certain types of creatures,right, unique, peculiar all of
the things that enabled us to beable to journey the life that
he predestined for us anyway.
So he's equipped us to do somethings.
We just have to be mindful thatwe're participating and not
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just thinking God's gonna doeverything.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That's right.
That's right, amen.
So, and what I want you to knowis that you have a purposed
life ahead of you.
I would say you have a greatlife, you have a success life,
and you do, but sometimes thosethings don't ring richly down in
our soul as true, based on whatwe're going through, what we're
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facing.
But regardless of who we are,we have a purposed life ahead of
us, and that life is a journeyof mountains, valleys.
It is a broad, wide, open seato travel and to learn and to
articulate who you are on thewaves and the winds of the seas
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of life.
And so we wanna invite you tothis topic on today, and our
topic is navigating uncertaintythat's what we're about to talk
about.
And life.
This topic is relevant becauselife is filled with uncertainty.
Absolutely.
I could go down the list andmaybe I should A new job you
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have.
Uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
A new relationship you have uncertainty.
When you get married you haveuncertainty.
Get pregnant you haveuncertainty.
Move into a new community youhave uncertainty.
Join a new church you haveuncertainty.
Take on a new role you haveuncertainty.
A problem shows up, a tragichappens you have uncertainty.
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Meet a new person you haveuncertainty.
I mean, you know.
Start becoming investor for thefirst time, become an
entrepreneur.
We're all facing.
You could turn on a new.
Information creates uncertaintyand the reality is because we
don't know what tomorrow holds,we have uncertainty about
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tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And can I share the scripture that I have been
echoing so much?
Yes for the last.
I feel like two years.
And I feel like we aredefinitely living out that
season right now, and that is 1Corinthians, chapter two, verse
nine, and it says I hath notseen nor ear heard this KJV,
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neither have entered into theheart of man.
Now, that in and of itselftalks about uncertainty yes.
We hadn't seen it, we hadn'theard it.
It hasn't entered into ourhearts the things which God has
prepared for them that love him.
And the reality is is that lifeis filled with uncertainty.
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No one escapes it.
No one escapes it.
God says there are some thingsI have for you.
You haven't even seen it yet,you know.
So.
It's on both sides of the coin.
They're the uncertainties thatare concerned, but there are
also the uncertainties as itrelates to our walk with God.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
What is good?
What is perfect?
What is the acceptable will ofGod for my life?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Absolutely.
What is this?
What is the journey that Godhas me on?
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I know right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And so it truly is, a step by step, a step by step,
you know, and going back to thescripture that says that the
word of God is a lamp unto ourfeet.
We're talking about daily breadright.
For every step we need thisword.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then it's a light unto our path to help us to see
further down.
But even when we see in thatdimension, we still don't see
everything because we don't seearound the corner.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And so this is a journey, and a journey with the
word of God being our anchor andbeing our foundation.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh, that is so good.
That's so good.
Well, I hope you all are readyto take this journey with us.
As we talk about navigatinguncertainty, and anytime you go
on a journey, you gotta haveyour curiosity, you gotta have
your excitement in your backpack.
I like that.
You gotta have some things inyour backpack with you.
You gotta have your thirst withyou.
You gotta have a mind fordiscovery with you.
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What about expectation,expectation with you on this
journey.
And you gotta take a journal.
You go on a new journey.
You're either journalingthrough pictures and video
recording, or you're journalingthrough writing things down, or
you're journaling throughcharging them to memory.
So that's what we want you todo some of that stuff.
As we take this journey today,navigating uncertainty, I wanna
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ask our audience a question.
Are you facing any uncertaintyin your life and if you are, how
are you handling it?
Think about that.
What are you uncertain aboutright now?
Are you unsure about who youare?
Are you uncertain of who your?
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real friends are?
Are you uncertain about adoctor's report?
Are you uncertain about howyou're gonna pay all these bills
?
Are you uncertain about yourinfluence?
Maybe you thought you had acertain influence with your team
.
You're realizing something isnot as you thought.
What are you uncertain aboutright now?
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Is it what you see on theglobal scale?
Is it what you see in businessand entrepreneurship?
Is it what you see in abusiness merger?
Is it what you see with thestock market?
What's your uncertainty?
I want you to think about thatas we go in this journey and
learn how to deal withuncertainty.
Now, life is one big questionmark.
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I don't care what anybody says.
One second things can be oneway.
A text message can change yourlife.
A phone call can change yourlife.
Try five minutes down the road.
It can change your lifecompletely.
You can walk into the store andmeet the most amazing person.
Change your life completely,you can.
So life is one big questionmark, right?
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So we know that there'suncertainty in life.
There are three particularareas.
Okay, so y'all, I callsweetheart, I have a lot of
terms of endurance for my wifeand sweetheart, baby darling,
all of those.
So it's gonna slip out.
I'm trying to be asprofessional as possible, but
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it's gonna slip out.
So I was thinking these threeparticular areas of uncertainty
that always get me, and I willsay I'm a person who's always
dealing with uncertainty.
My life just goes that way.
God's always doing somethingnew and different.
I'm in leadership, I'm anentrepreneur, I have all these
dreams and hopes.
The enemy is always in a battlewith me.
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So I'm always dealing with someuncertainty.
Matter of fact, we're dealingwith a big uncertainty right now
in our life, but the thingsthat we have going on.
And so I thought about thesethree areas of uncertainty.
The unknown this is what drivesuncertainty.
The unknown drives uncertainty.
The uncontrollable when it'ssomething that I want to change
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so bad, but I can't.
When it's a road I don't wannago down, but I can't control
that.
And the unavoidable, theunknown think about that with us
y'all.
The uncontrollable and theunavoidable how do you deal with
those things?
What about you?
Any area when you think aboutuncertainty, any area you think
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about, that comes to you.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, I think most importantly to me is the reality
is that uncertainty is not oddRight, but it is actually very
normal.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right.
So if you're dealing withuncertainty right now, don't
think it's odd, exactly andthat's the point.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I think that when we can be transparent and say
I'm not certain about certainthings and not feel less than
and not feel condemned and notfeel ignorant or any negative
connotation, I think it helpsand we said this before it helps
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the next man, it helps the nextwoman, because sometimes the
pictures that are constantlysent out or the messages that
are implied is that we have tohave everything together all the
time which is what made me readthat scripture, because the
reality is there are things wedon't know.
There's things we've not seen,we've not heard, they hadn't
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entered into ours.
There are things we do not knowand I think the sooner we can
become comfortable with thatbeing a reality, the unknown
Exactly, the less stress it cancause.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And so I just wanted to share that, because I think
it is so important for peoplewho are dealing with uncertainty
not to feel like something'swrong with them.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We all have uncertainty, and so the unknown
can be very scary.
It can.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It can be very scary, and which is why it is so
important for us to be locked inwith the one who knows all
things.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And so what better way to walk out this thing
called life and to have thisjourney, than to do it with the
one who is all knowing?
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So for everything I don't know, he's omniscient, he
knows all things.
For everything I don't know, Irest in the fact that my God
does know Right, and so, eventhough I don't know, I lean to
him.
That's me.
I lean to him for the knowingRight.
And what I've learned in thislife, honey, is that there are
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things I just don't need to know.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Right, I need to stay uncertain about certain things.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, there are certain things I need to stay
uncertain about.
Absolutely, and I think one ofthe biggest hurdles is being
able to accept that reality.
I know people who want to knoweverything and, oh my God, they
stress themselves out, theycreate great anxiety because
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they want to know everything andI get it.
However, you've got to get tothat point where you grow enough
to say if God doesn't reveal it, if God doesn't show me, if he
doesn't order my steps to get meto the place where I receive
the information, then I justwon't know and it's OK to not
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know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I love that you hit on the word growth.
That really stuck out to me.
So what you're saying is and Iwant you to get this is that one
key principle to overcominguncertainty is to trust and
believe and go to God about thethings you're uncertain about.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Absolutely.
You think about it.
Our walk is a faith walk.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Everything about Christianity is a lot of it is
not been seen, right, right,it's not known.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It has to be revealed , right.
And so what if we translatedthat to life?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And say you know what ?
There are some things I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And I'm going to lean on God to find out.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And there are some things I can't control, oh, and
there are some things I can'tavoid, exactly.
So I'm going to lean on God,exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And the truth is, when you say that about control,
I was generated to say what canwe control?
Realistically, the one thing wecontrol we can control is what
we do.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right.
Oftentimes, the control that wewant is outside of us.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
And the reality is that we can't control things.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We can control.
I can control what I say, I cancontrol what I do, what?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, but I can't control what my neighbor says.
I can't control what they do?
I can't control those things.
So how then do I get to thepoint where the uncontrollable,
the idea of the uncontrollablecontrolling me?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You know what I mean.
Right, I've got to get to aplace where not being in control
that's not controlling.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, right, which requires navigation.
Yes, it's about navigating theuncontrollable, navigating the
unavoidable and navigating theunknown in a healthy way,
whereby you come out of itunscathed and you go through it
unscathed and you don't developanxiety, weary fear, negative
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emotions, negative perspectiveand all of those things.
We've been researching thisitem.
I mean we really dug through toget you some really good
information, and here's one itemof one piece of information
that I like.
It said uncertainty is a partof life that everyone faces, but
the Bible teaches us how torespond to it.
Watch this with faith, hope,love and trust in God, which
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goes back to your originalstatement.
So here are some tools for thisjourney we're going to take in
navigating uncertainty, and theyare faith, hope, love and trust
in God.
So what are some signs for youto look for, telltale signs that
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you're wrestling withuncertainty?
I've got some of them here.
I can mention some of them.
Would you like me to do that?
So some of the signs thatyou're being uncertain.
Number one you may hesitate atdoing something that you know
you need to do.
You may hesitate at sayingsomething to someone that you
need to hesitate or stutter atdoing it because you're
uncertain about it.
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You're not clear about it.
Number two you may avoid it.
Practice avoidance, not justeye contact with people being
uncertain.
Just think about it.
When you're uncertain talkingto somebody, you avoid eye
contact.
But think about how we avoidother things in life.
When we're uncertain, we avoidit, we avoid it altogether.
The third one is we seekreassurance.
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When we're uncertain aboutthings, we ask others, we ask
for opinion, we ask for feedback.
Why?
That's because you're uncertainabout it, and so you're trying
to build up your information.
You're trying to build up yourconfidence and your focus so
that you can make a decision orstep out or do whatever it is
that you need to do.
Another one is you're uncertainwhen you start expressing doubt
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or worry about your choices,about your abilities, about
outcomes, and you start usingwords like maybe probably
something like that, or I think.
So you're uncertain and youdon't know, and so if you have a
lot of these telltale signs,the other one is and I like this
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one the most because it reallystarts exposing where we become
unhealthy with navigatinguncertainty.
It says you start showinganxiety, you have stress
symptoms, you can start, yourbody starts responding.
Your body starts responding ina certain way.
When you have anxiety, that'sthat stress, depression.
You begin to isolate becauseyou've gotten uncertain and
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you've allowed it to get to apoint where you have anxiety.
Some of the signs ofuncertainty can be mood swings
when you begin to become overlypersonal.
Right, those are some of the.
You have abnormal emotions andthings like that.
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So if you're struggling withuncertainty, there's some
strategies you got to look atand we want to go into the word
of God and start looking at that.
So those are some of the thingsyou want to look for.
So the first thing I want todeal with, pastor, is anxiety,
how anxiety forms when we'redealing with uncertainty.
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And I want to go here inProverbs Let me pull this up for
you here, proverbs, and if youget it before I get it that,
that would be great.
But I want to pull up Proverbsand Look at this passage of
Scripture Okay, proverbs,chapter 12, and let's go to
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verse 24, 25, okay, mm-hmm.
So it says here, verse 25, itsays anxiety, which is distress,
being overly concerned, to thepoint where you've become
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emotionally unbalanced.
It says anxiety in the heart ofa man Causes depression, and I
think it's important for peopleto know where anxiety Lives.
We often think the anxiety is inour heads.
No, that's not where thatanxiety.
It starts in your head.
But anxiety has the ability tomove its way down into your
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heart and when, when you findyourself depressed, sadden,
sorrelful, your countness hasdropped.
David talked about that at onepoint.
Why is my countenance dropped?
I would lift my head to theLord, my God.
So when that's what's happening, that's because that anxiety
has gotten down into your heart.
It's got any heart and it saysbut a good word Makes it glad.
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Yeah, and that's the purpose ofdaily bread, because you may be
having anxiety in your heartright now from Uncertainty and
we want to bring you a good wordfrom God that you can navigate
that uncertainty that you'redealing with in your life.
The word of God, yourrelationship with God, spending
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time of God, trusting God,hoping in God and Loving the
life that God has given you andloving yourself, who God has
created you to be, is how youstart reading of that anxiety
that is in your heart and Putyou in a place of growth where
you can come out of that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Absolutely, and I think so.
What's so important?
Because immediately I startedthinking about the scripture and
Philippians, which we can go toPhilippians for yeah because I
not only do often quote thatmyself and I strive to live that
out, because when you wantsomething bad enough, you will
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do what you need to do to get itright and so, if you remember,
we talked about in the beginningthat we have to be sure to
Participate, and this is wherethat participation comes in, so
in Philippians, chapter 4.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I believe I'm going to begin at verse 6.
Let's see Philippians, chapter4.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Philippians 4, verse 6, right, and I'm reading King
James this is be careful fornothing which is anxious.
Be anxious for nothing thereyou go, but in everything right
there, that right there, ineverything, by prayer and
supplication.
See, there's something for usto do now.
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Look at how God did his partand you just read over in
proverbs.
But a good word a good word,but a good word make will make
you glad, right, and that's,that's true.
So here God is giving us a goodword.
Oh, right, yeah there's a goodword for that anxiety.
But watch what, watch how wehave to participate in, in
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everything by prayer andsupplication.
That's our part.
Amen, amen, with thanksgiving.
Let your request be made knownunto God.
This is oftentimes what wedon't do.
Instead of Bringing thoserequests to God of what we want
to see right when we have theanxiety, we complain about the
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anxiety.
We complain about the situation.
We're moaning and groaning, notrealizing God has already given
us this good word.
Right and all you have to do isdo the word and watch God word
work in your life.
So let's go on and look at thenext part of that, because I
love this particular scripture,and then I'm gonna, I'm gonna
jump out the way and the peaceof God.
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Once you do these things, thepeace of God which passes all,
all Understanding, shall keepyour hearts and minds through
Christ Jesus.
So when I have anxiety, mydesire is to have peace and get
rid of the anxiety.
Right, god has given me hisword and it's basically in
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essence saying if you do this,right.
The anxiety will leave right,but I have to do it right.
I have to do it.
So it doesn't mean no good toknow the word and not use the
word right and this is that partwhere I Keep talking about.
We have to participate becausein order to see the
manifestation of what God wordsays, we have to make it
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practical, practice it andutilize it right and man.
So this is how we get rid ofthe anxiety.
I love Philippians, for I'm.
The moment that anxiety startscreeping up on me, that it's
like the the scripture echoes inmy head.
You know what to do.
It's like you know what to do,so you have to make a decision.
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Do you want to keep bemoaningabout what's got you anxious or
do you want to use the word ofthe Lord?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I'll stay in silence about it.
Yeah, not even say anything,just keep it all in.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
And when you want.
That's why I said when you wantsomething bad enough.
Because, for me, I don't likeanxiety, though I I become
anxious, I don't like it, and somy goal is always to get rid of
it.
Right, I want to hurry up andget rid of it.
Right and we've got to knowthat God has given us his word
for these types of situations.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Right.
Watch this.
Watch this now.
Proverbs said that anxiety getsinto your heart.
It said anxiety in a heart of aman Leads to depression.
Philippians turns around andsays in everything, if you pray
and give supplication, the peaceof God is going to guard your
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heart.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, so in your mind.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So the anxiety can't get into your heart If prayer or
supplication and thanksgivingis a guard around your heart.
So when anxiety when you, whenyou are worried or concerned
about something uncertain,concern that turns into worry,
that tries to go into Anxiety,if you're praying and you're
having thanksgiving is the keypoint you don't just pray oh God
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, get this out my life.
You got to give a hallelujah.
No, I think you do.
I think you in it, I think youout of it.
Yeah, I think you're under itand around it.
I give your name glory in themidst of it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I should buck you got , even though I'm in this pain,
even though I'm going throughthis surgery, even though I got
this cancer, even though.
I got this debt.
Yeah, you got to up some things.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You got any on your thanksgiving, you do come on
somebody you do.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
If you up the any on your thanksgiving, that whole
Philippians 6 and 7 thing willwork Right.
Oh my god, we can.
We can think it all day.
We can.
We can call ourselvespracticing it, we can practice
it all day, but it is thethanksgiving, that is the part
of the three-part ingredient,that shifts you, shifts you into
that mode of peace, because youare practicing rejoicing Rather
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than where are you?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Absolutely, because it's not just about letting your
request be made known unto God,because that's not all it says
Right, it is the supplicating,it is the thanksgiving, it is
giving up the praise and it putsa guard around your heart it
does Like blocks the anxietyfrom trying to come in.
What's beautiful is that youcan't.
You cannot have Thanksgivingand anxiety at the same party.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I like that you can't .
Speaker 2 (28:42):
One has to leave one has to leave what has to leave,
and Thanksgiving will trumpetevery time every time, every
time, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So if anxiety is in your heart, I go through.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You right now go through anxiety.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Absolutely.
I go through anxiety, but Iknow how to replace that I.
Sometimes anxiety can take youso low.
You can beat yourself up andI'm talking to somebody on this
journey right now I feel it inthe Holy Ghost somebody right
now.
You beat yourself up.
We all we do it.
Yes, we do.
Fail a test, don't achievesomething, go through rejection
(29:19):
from Wanting to be in a group, acrowd or something like that,
feeling unbalanced in your lifeand in your achievements, and we
can beat ourselves up, mm-hmm,and we become anxious, anxious.
But the Bible says listen,there is nothing worth being
anxious about, because it saysbe anxious for nothing.
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Nothing, and so we have to trainourselves to know how to guard
our hearts with prayer andThanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, See, I believe, I believe, apostle, that you
know a big part and I'm gonnasay, at least it is for me.
Yeah is that there are.
There are things that I havedecided that I want.
Yeah and there are things thatI have decided that I don't come
on.
And so when the thing that Idon't want shows up, yeah, then
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I work very diligently To getrid of it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I know that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I am diligent, I am, I am diligent, I don't.
I.
I'm not a Debbie Downer.
Come on, I love a good time.
All the time.
I like to be up, I like to behigh, I like to give God praise
because when, when, I mean allthe way up.
When I think about the goodnessof Jesus and all that he's done,
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but when I think about this,this, this amazing God, right
that we serve the Creator, andhow he created us and created
things and right all of that,when I think about that and I, I
realized I'm still breathing, Istill have life.
I've made lots of mistakes, I'vedone crazy things.
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Oh, my god and the God ofCreation, yeah, oh, glory,
almost, lord, have mercy, he hasbeen Keeping me.
Oh, I dare not allow certainthings to stay with me long.
And so I think that, forbecause, like like I said a
(31:18):
minute ago, yeah, anxiety, ashow up, but immediately I'm
working to get rid of it,because I'm not interested in
having that as a part of my life, because it absolutely will
pull you down, it Absolutelywill cause you to be in the
wrong mind, space and all ofthose things, and that's why
it's so, it's so important forus to get to the, to the point
where the Trigger in us has tobe what is the word?
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The trigger to the response ofunknown, not knowing and anxiety
and worry has to be what doesGod's word say about this?
Because this is something hedoes not have Intended for my
life, that's absolutely right,you know yeah.
And, and, and.
(32:02):
I think that if we can startdrawing a line in the sand, as
they say, right and say theseare the things that I want.
What's so ever lovely.
What's so ever, it's pure.
What's so is love a good report.
You know the joy.
Lord is my strength.
You know what I'm saying theseare.
There's some things that I know, that I want, but I also have
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to be mindful of the things thatI don't want, and so when those
things creep in, I have to.
I have to become Adam yeah.
To get those things out?
Yeah, because I know where theycould take me right right.
You know what I mean and Ithink it's important for us to
make that line, draw that linein the sand, so that we will be
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Intentional about the workthat's required.
Oh my god Intentional, because Ifeel like and I'm just gonna
throw this out here I Just feellike sometimes we become lazy
Christians.
We want the preacher to do it,we want the.
You know we won't Stop it, youokay.
You said come on, give me aword.
Give me a word, and God is likethere's a whole.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Bible full of word.
There's a word in you, you, I'ma word lives in Christ the word
made flesh.
The word of God lives on theinside of me.
In the beginning was the wordand the word was God and the
world was with God.
Absolute word became flesh andamong Jesus is the word and he
abides on the inside.
So you have you.
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That's what David said, and Iwill hide your word in my heart
that I will not sin against youabsolutely.
So we're talking aboutnavigating the uncertainties of
life and how to guard your heartfrom anxiety, and that remedy
is, and that recipe is, to Beanxious for it.
Don't let anything make youanxious, but take everything,
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everything to God in prayer.
Don't hold it in.
That's the part right there.
We don't make it to prayerbecause we hold it in.
Take everything to God, andthen, of course, we do like you
say.
We may complain or either willshare it with other people, but
people can't do what God can do.
Come on somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Oh, my god you just said.
Oh, what you said, is that sopowerful?
Is that Oftentimes and I know,for this has been the attack
against me probably my wholelife and that is the enemy wants
to keep your mouth closed.
So see, when I think aboutTelling, like bringing those
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things to God, like whatPhilippians 4 tells us to do,
yeah, you got to open your mouth.
Yeah, but not only in that, butalso in the Thanksgiving, right
, you got to open your mouth.
And so one of the greatestassaults I believe that the
enemy brings against us is tokeep our mouths closed Because
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the pain feels so paralyzingthat's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh, that is so good.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And he doesn't want us to oh this field.
Yes he doesn't want us to openour mouths.
A because we don't feel worthy,or B because we feel like God
must not care, because I'm goingthrough this.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
But, what?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
what we've got to realize is that the enemy is
aware of the weapon that we havecalled our mouth Right knows
that if we open up our mouthsthat we can create life, says
the word of God.
I mean it.
The tongue creates death inlife, but we have the power to
create life.
We have the power to prophesyto our own self by the Holy God.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I was about to say that, my God, you need to hear
yourself Proclaiming and decree,so you can, your belief grows,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And even in what we're praying unto the Lord, and
I can't help but think aboutthe scripture that says you know
, faith comes by hearing, yeah,and hearing by the word of God.
What if we are saying the wordof God out loud?
Yeah our faith grows right,absolutely.
But sometimes we want God tojust drop it down out of heaven.
(35:59):
We've got to do our part.
At the end of the day, we'vegot to do our part, and now I'm
gonna jump and go to this,because I love this one too.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I love this scripture , that's okay.
Proverbs 3, and, and this oneis just basically concerning how
God wants us to trust him andUs now lean to our own
understanding.
Yeah, see, I think anxietycomes from when we're trying to
do it ourselves.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh, that ties into the story I'm just reading.
Oh Jesus, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
When we're trying to do it ourselves in our own
strength, the way we think it'ssupposed to be done, and we've
not consulted God at all, we'venot listened to the Holy Spirit,
we've not gotten a word on thematter.
I believe that that sometimesis the place where anxiety Comes
in and the it sometime can belife.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yes, trying to do life ourselves.
Can you say that three times?
That's real life, life, life,that's pretty much how to do
life ourselves.
Sometimes we're trying to dosurvival.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Our sales and protection.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
You know, and, and, oh my god, oh, now think about
that come on folks who want ajourney with us, trying to
protect ourselves from pain ormore pain, or from unwanted
outcomes.
Or Sometimes we're trying toprotect ourselves from normalcy,
from the norm.
(37:35):
Let me explain that.
See, let's take relationships,for example.
You know it is normal forrelationships to go bad Mm-hmm.
It is normal for relationshipsnot to work out Mm-hmm.
It is normal for relationshipsto be a certain way.
And so for us to assume that wedo.
I don't ever want to go througha bad.
I don't ever want to go.
(37:55):
You're trying to protectyourself from what is normal.
Yeah, you have to trust God Foryour protection.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, the trust God for your life that reminds me of
the scripture they talked aboutLove is long suffering.
Yeah and we forget that part oflove, right?
You think about relationshipsand you think about we don't
think about that people aregoing to hurt your feelings.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
They're gonna break your heart.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
They're gonna disappoint me, we're gonna
disappoint people.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
We're gonna break some people's hearts.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
We're gonna be that as well to other people, and I
think that we forget that.
The scripture really clues usin on that reality that there is
suffering that comes with loveright, absolutely.
There's suffering that comeswith it.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Absolutely I want to.
I want to start closing out onthis point right here, because
we're out of time for thisepisode.
We're running out of time forthis episode, so I'm going to
take just bring up this passageof scripture and just a point
here.
I'm in Proverbs, chapter 16,because because Philippians
talked about everything, yeah,you know, in anxiety, don't be
(38:57):
anxiety, don't have anxiety fornothing, but in everything, and
everything is, is, is, is huge.
No one Manages everything well,but God.
And then there is no one who is, oh my God, enough, powerful
enough To deal with everythingin my life.
(39:18):
But God can't even handleeverything in my life.
I need God and you need God.
Here's what this text says.
It says proper, proper 16 andverse 9 I mean, put my seers on,
make sure I got it proper 16and verse 9 says this a man's
heart Plans his way now,remember all this that we've
(39:40):
been talking about keeps goingback to the heart and anxiety
tries to get in the heart, butprayer, supplication with
thanksgiving guards the heart.
So this is where thisuncertainty wants to bed and
seed and create depression,anxiety, worry, and we're gonna
talk about those things.
But it says this it says aman's heart plans his ways, but
(40:01):
the Lord Directs his steps.
Oh my God, yeah.
And so when you start talkingabout everything, be anxious for
nothing.
But in everything, what prayerand supplication with
thanksgiving, take everything toGod, man, and and I have a note
here this says God is sovereignand in control of everything.
(40:22):
That's what sovereign means tobe in control of everything.
There's no area in the world,nothing in your life, that God
is not sovereign over.
It says nothing happens withouthis knowledge or his permission
.
He has a plan and a purpose foreverything, even if we don't
understand it.
He can use uncertainty to testyour faith.
(40:45):
You may be going throughuncertainty because God is
testing your faith.
Yeah, when the children ofIsrael were in the wilderness,
uncertainty, yeah, god wastesting what was in their hearts
.
Remember he said I took youthrough the wilderness to show
you what was in your heart.
To purge out of your heart thosethings that was in your heart.
(41:05):
So sometimes you're in anuncertain situation this one,
you got to have thanksgivingbecause you don't even know if
God did it, did the devil do it?
You got it.
You got a way to gotta bepatient.
You got to practice patienceand endure suffering like a good
soldier and do hardship like agood soldier, because God could
be the very one behind theuncertainty and you're like I
know, he's been the one behindmine in a lot of times.
(41:28):
Watch this.
It also says that he could useuncertainty to refine your
character.
Yep, oh, my god, let's see what.
Are you gonna go off?
Yep.
Are you gonna turn away from me?
Yep, are you gonna?
Are you gonna stop loving meAbsolutely?
Are you gonna stop serving me?
Yeah.
Are you gonna change your mindabout me?
Yeah, are you gonna change yourmind about you?
Are you gonna change yourcharacter?
(41:48):
Are you gonna?
Are you gonna go from beingloving to mean and angry and
spiteful and reason?
He's gonna test your character.
He's gonna see what you'regonna do.
Yeah, oh my god.
It says this right here and heuses it and this is the great
part goes back to Philippians todraw us us closer to him.
This is why God allowsuncertainty in your life,
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because think about it.
It said be anxious for nothing,but in all things, through
prayer and supplication, withthanksgiving, let your request
be made known under God, come toGod.
So he's using it to draw uscloser to him.
You we're not the only onesthat's uncertain, or been
uncertain.
Think about Moses.
How in the world, god, yougonna have me Go back to the
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place where I killed a man?
You want me to go back to thehouse I fled away from yeah, to
the king I fled away from, to mystepdad, who is a ruthless
Egyptian who wants to kill me,and you'll send me back to him,
to the Pharaoh, the mostpowerful person known on the
(42:56):
planet, and and tell him to Letall his citizens and residents,
who are Israelites, go free,right, who are the labor force
and Changed the narrative of hisentire nation and the GDP of
his whole nation.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Am I gonna get?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
killed.
The moment I want is a.
Hebrew person gonna kill me,are they gonna even listen to me
?
So he had to navigate thatuncertainty.
Absolutely.
Speak to our audience as weclose it out.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You know we have to, we have to.
You know what you just saidabout Moses.
It's like a whole movie justflashed before me and the
uncertainty that he had to beright, dylan would, day after
(43:50):
day after day and Year afteryear after absolutely, and we
have to be able to look into thescripture, at these testimonies
, at these others that have gonebefore us, and Really look at
(44:11):
their Situations, although weknow the end of the story
because we've already read itright, but sometimes it's
necessary to go back and reallyread it and really read it and
put yourself in it, and, and,and I think it Will help us to
show how important it is that,even when we're in some of the
most dire situations yeah, thatwas dire right for Moses right
(44:35):
we have to be mindful right tohold on to God.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's it.
Hold on to God.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,that's out of.
We're out of time.
That's our first episode ofthis navigate uncertainty.
We're gonna have to come back,yeah, so we'll do an episode to
navigate uncertainty and thatyou can download and listen to
for yourself.
We want to thank you for Goingon this journey with us.
We pray that your curiosity waspeak.
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We pray that your excitementwas filled.
We pray that your journal, somethings and you thought about
where you are with uncertaintyand how to overcome it.
So come back for our nextepisode and download that, that
episode and listen to it so youcan be strengthened about
navigating uncertainty.
Thank you all again, we'regonna talk with you and be with
you next time on daily bread.
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You.
Welcome, welcome everyone.
It is good, good, good, goodgood to be with you on the day.
Welcome to Daily Bread.
This is your host, host andco-host.
Host and co-host, Dr JarrellStokely Jr and my wife, Pastor
Angela Stokely.
And welcome to this secondedition of Daily Bread.
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Daily Bread is your podcast,designed for you, to empower you
, to encourage you and to feedyou the relevant word of God and
practical principles foreveryday life, for you to walk
in the life and power that Godhas in store for your life.
So let me introduce my co-hostto you, Pastor Angela Stokely.
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Greetings everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey everybody, so good to be here, so glad you
guys have tuned in.
We look forward to sharing apowerful topic today and
breaking off some things that wefeel are great nuggets that can
help you, not only in thisseason of life, I feel like in
any season, because I think ourtopic today kind of covers life
(01:08):
Right, so welcome.
Thank you all for tuning in.
We look forward to sharing withyou and hearing back from you
as well.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right.
So first let me say to ourlistening audience, to our
partners and sponsors, to all ofyou who are helping to make
this possible and who are beingpatient with us and loving us
back by giving us your time andattention we're grateful for you
, we appreciate you and we thankyou for tuning in to each
(01:36):
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You can download our episodes.
You can subscribe to ourYouTube channel at Covenant
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You can find us on the websiteCovenantGraceChurchorg and on
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But we are thankful for you,we're grateful for you, and we
could not do this without youlistening and participating.
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So thank you so much, andhopefully you're growing and
applying what you're learningToday.
We are going on an amazing,amazing journey.
I love this topic that we'retalking about today and will you
invite the audience to go on ajourney with us?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, absolutely, because we've realized that
that's really what life is.
Life is, in fact, a journey,and none of us are ever exempt
from this topic that we'regetting ready to talk about, and
so we want you to feel asthough you are coming along with
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us.
We wanna be able to share someof the things that we've learned
along the way.
We wanna be able to give younuggets and things that you can
apply to your life, that weapplied to our life from the
word of God practical things aswell, to help get you through
what we're gonna talk abouttoday.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So we wanna invite you to take this journey with us
, because it is in fact ajourney.
It is a step by step by step bystep, by step by step, and so
that is real and that's liferight.
That's what life is and it's ajourney and that's how you all
to see this as something thatyou are being asked to
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participate in You're asked to.
There's a part that you play.
There's a part that God plays,amen.
And that's how life is.
There's a part that we play, andthere's a part that God plays,
and we have to be mindful not toalways put the burden of all
things on God, because God hasequipped us, he's made us as
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certain types of creatures,right, unique, peculiar all of
the things that enabled us to beable to journey the life that
he predestined for us anyway.
So he's equipped us to do somethings.
We just have to be mindful thatwe're participating and not
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just thinking God's gonna doeverything.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That's right.
That's right, amen.
So, and what I want you to knowis that you have a purposed
life ahead of you.
I would say you have a greatlife, you have a success life,
and you do, but sometimes thosethings don't ring richly down in
our soul as true, based on whatwe're going through, what we're
(04:31):
facing.
But regardless of who we are,we have a purposed life ahead of
us, and that life is a journeyof mountains, valleys.
It is a broad, wide, open seato travel and to learn and to
articulate who you are on thewaves and the winds of the seas
(04:54):
of life.
And so we wanna invite you tothis topic on today, and our
topic is navigating uncertaintythat's what we're about to talk
about.
And life.
This topic is relevant becauselife is filled with uncertainty.
Absolutely.
I could go down the list andmaybe I should A new job you
(05:17):
have.
Uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
A new relationship you have uncertainty.
When you get married you haveuncertainty.
Get pregnant you haveuncertainty.
Move into a new community youhave uncertainty.
Join a new church you haveuncertainty.
Take on a new role you haveuncertainty.
A problem shows up, a tragichappens you have uncertainty.
(05:41):
Meet a new person you haveuncertainty.
I mean, you know.
Start becoming investor for thefirst time, become an
entrepreneur.
We're all facing.
You could turn on a new.
Information creates uncertaintyand the reality is because we
don't know what tomorrow holds,we have uncertainty about
(06:02):
tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And can I share the scripture that I have been
echoing so much?
Yes for the last.
I feel like two years.
And I feel like we aredefinitely living out that
season right now, and that is 1Corinthians, chapter two, verse
nine, and it says I hath notseen nor ear heard this KJV,
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neither have entered into theheart of man.
Now, that in and of itselftalks about uncertainty yes.
We hadn't seen it, we hadn'theard it.
It hasn't entered into ourhearts the things which God has
prepared for them that love him.
And the reality is is that lifeis filled with uncertainty.
(06:54):
No one escapes it.
No one escapes it.
God says there are some thingsI have for you.
You haven't even seen it yet,you know.
So.
It's on both sides of the coin.
They're the uncertainties thatare concerned, but there are
also the uncertainties as itrelates to our walk with God.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
What is good?
What is perfect?
What is the acceptable will ofGod for my life?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Absolutely.
What is this?
What is the journey that Godhas me on?
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I know right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And so it truly is, a step by step, a step by step,
you know, and going back to thescripture that says that the
word of God is a lamp unto ourfeet.
We're talking about daily breadright.
For every step we need thisword.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then it's a light unto our path to help us to see
further down.
But even when we see in thatdimension, we still don't see
everything because we don't seearound the corner.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And so this is a journey, and a journey with the
word of God being our anchor andbeing our foundation.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh, that is so good.
That's so good.
Well, I hope you all are readyto take this journey with us.
As we talk about navigatinguncertainty, and anytime you go
on a journey, you gotta haveyour curiosity, you gotta have
your excitement in your backpack.
I like that.
You gotta have some things inyour backpack with you.
You gotta have your thirst withyou.
You gotta have a mind fordiscovery with you.
(08:33):
What about expectation,expectation with you on this
journey.
And you gotta take a journal.
You go on a new journey.
You're either journalingthrough pictures and video
recording, or you're journalingthrough writing things down, or
you're journaling throughcharging them to memory.
So that's what we want you todo some of that stuff.
As we take this journey today,navigating uncertainty, I wanna
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ask our audience a question.
Are you facing any uncertaintyin your life and if you are, how
are you handling it?
Think about that.
What are you uncertain aboutright now?
Are you unsure about who youare?
Are you uncertain of who your?
(09:17):
real friends are?
Are you uncertain about adoctor's report?
Are you uncertain about howyou're gonna pay all these bills
?
Are you uncertain about yourinfluence?
Maybe you thought you had acertain influence with your team
.
You're realizing something isnot as you thought.
What are you uncertain aboutright now?
(09:39):
Is it what you see on theglobal scale?
Is it what you see in businessand entrepreneurship?
Is it what you see in abusiness merger?
Is it what you see with thestock market?
What's your uncertainty?
I want you to think about thatas we go in this journey and
learn how to deal withuncertainty.
Now, life is one big questionmark.
(09:59):
I don't care what anybody says.
One second things can be oneway.
A text message can change yourlife.
A phone call can change yourlife.
Try five minutes down the road.
It can change your lifecompletely.
You can walk into the store andmeet the most amazing person.
Change your life completely,you can.
So life is one big questionmark, right?
(10:19):
So we know that there'suncertainty in life.
There are three particularareas.
Okay, so y'all, I callsweetheart, I have a lot of
terms of endurance for my wifeand sweetheart, baby darling,
all of those.
So it's gonna slip out.
I'm trying to be asprofessional as possible, but
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it's gonna slip out.
So I was thinking these threeparticular areas of uncertainty
that always get me, and I willsay I'm a person who's always
dealing with uncertainty.
My life just goes that way.
God's always doing somethingnew and different.
I'm in leadership, I'm anentrepreneur, I have all these
dreams and hopes.
The enemy is always in a battlewith me.
(11:03):
So I'm always dealing with someuncertainty.
Matter of fact, we're dealingwith a big uncertainty right now
in our life, but the thingsthat we have going on.
And so I thought about thesethree areas of uncertainty.
The unknown this is what drivesuncertainty.
The unknown drives uncertainty.
The uncontrollable when it'ssomething that I want to change
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so bad, but I can't.
When it's a road I don't wannago down, but I can't control
that.
And the unavoidable, theunknown think about that with us
y'all.
The uncontrollable and theunavoidable how do you deal with
those things?
What about you?
Any area when you think aboutuncertainty, any area you think
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about, that comes to you.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, I think most importantly to me is the reality
is that uncertainty is not oddRight, but it is actually very
normal.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right.
So if you're dealing withuncertainty right now, don't
think it's odd, exactly andthat's the point.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I think that when we can be transparent and say
I'm not certain about certainthings and not feel less than
and not feel condemned and notfeel ignorant or any negative
connotation, I think it helpsand we said this before it helps
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the next man, it helps the nextwoman, because sometimes the
pictures that are constantlysent out or the messages that
are implied is that we have tohave everything together all the
time which is what made me readthat scripture, because the
reality is there are things wedon't know.
There's things we've not seen,we've not heard, they hadn't
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entered into ours.
There are things we do not knowand I think the sooner we can
become comfortable with thatbeing a reality, the unknown
Exactly, the less stress it cancause.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And so I just wanted to share that, because I think
it is so important for peoplewho are dealing with uncertainty
not to feel like something'swrong with them.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We all have uncertainty, and so the unknown
can be very scary.
It can.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It can be very scary, and which is why it is so
important for us to be locked inwith the one who knows all
things.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And so what better way to walk out this thing
called life and to have thisjourney, than to do it with the
one who is all knowing?
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So for everything I don't know, he's omniscient, he
knows all things.
For everything I don't know, Irest in the fact that my God
does know Right, and so, eventhough I don't know, I lean to
him.
That's me.
I lean to him for the knowingRight.
And what I've learned in thislife, honey, is that there are
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things I just don't need to know.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Right, I need to stay uncertain about certain things.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, there are certain things I need to stay
uncertain about.
Absolutely, and I think one ofthe biggest hurdles is being
able to accept that reality.
I know people who want to knoweverything and, oh my God, they
stress themselves out, theycreate great anxiety because
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they want to know everything andI get it.
However, you've got to get tothat point where you grow enough
to say if God doesn't reveal it, if God doesn't show me, if he
doesn't order my steps to get meto the place where I receive
the information, then I justwon't know and it's OK to not
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know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I love that you hit on the word growth.
That really stuck out to me.
So what you're saying is and Iwant you to get this is that one
key principle to overcominguncertainty is to trust and
believe and go to God about thethings you're uncertain about.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Absolutely.
You think about it.
Our walk is a faith walk.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Everything about Christianity is a lot of it is
not been seen, right, right,it's not known.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It has to be revealed , right.
And so what if we translatedthat to life?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And say you know what ?
There are some things I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And I'm going to lean on God to find out.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And there are some things I can't control, oh, and
there are some things I can'tavoid, exactly.
So I'm going to lean on God,exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And the truth is, when you say that about control,
I was generated to say what canwe control?
Realistically, the one thing wecontrol we can control is what
we do.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right.
Oftentimes, the control that wewant is outside of us.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
And the reality is that we can't control things.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We can control.
I can control what I say, I cancontrol what I do, what?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, but I can't control what my neighbor says.
I can't control what they do?
I can't control those things.
So how then do I get to thepoint where the uncontrollable,
the idea of the uncontrollablecontrolling me?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You know what I mean.
Right, I've got to get to aplace where not being in control
that's not controlling.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, right, which requires navigation.
Yes, it's about navigating theuncontrollable, navigating the
unavoidable and navigating theunknown in a healthy way,
whereby you come out of itunscathed and you go through it
unscathed and you don't developanxiety, weary fear, negative
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emotions, negative perspectiveand all of those things.
We've been researching thisitem.
I mean we really dug through toget you some really good
information, and here's one itemof one piece of information
that I like.
It said uncertainty is a partof life that everyone faces, but
the Bible teaches us how torespond to it.
Watch this with faith, hope,love and trust in God, which
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goes back to your originalstatement.
So here are some tools for thisjourney we're going to take in
navigating uncertainty, and theyare faith, hope, love and trust
in God.
So what are some signs for youto look for, telltale signs that
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you're wrestling withuncertainty?
I've got some of them here.
I can mention some of them.
Would you like me to do that?
So some of the signs thatyou're being uncertain.
Number one you may hesitate atdoing something that you know
you need to do.
You may hesitate at sayingsomething to someone that you
need to hesitate or stutter atdoing it because you're
uncertain about it.
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You're not clear about it.
Number two you may avoid it.
Practice avoidance, not justeye contact with people being
uncertain.
Just think about it.
When you're uncertain talkingto somebody, you avoid eye
contact.
But think about how we avoidother things in life.
When we're uncertain, we avoidit, we avoid it altogether.
The third one is we seekreassurance.
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When we're uncertain aboutthings, we ask others, we ask
for opinion, we ask for feedback.
Why?
That's because you're uncertainabout it, and so you're trying
to build up your information.
You're trying to build up yourconfidence and your focus so
that you can make a decision orstep out or do whatever it is
that you need to do.
Another one is you're uncertainwhen you start expressing doubt
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or worry about your choices,about your abilities, about
outcomes, and you start usingwords like maybe probably
something like that, or I think.
So you're uncertain and youdon't know, and so if you have a
lot of these telltale signs,the other one is and I like this
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one the most because it reallystarts exposing where we become
unhealthy with navigatinguncertainty.
It says you start showinganxiety, you have stress
symptoms, you can start, yourbody starts responding.
Your body starts responding ina certain way.
When you have anxiety, that'sthat stress, depression.
You begin to isolate becauseyou've gotten uncertain and
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you've allowed it to get to apoint where you have anxiety.
Some of the signs ofuncertainty can be mood swings
when you begin to become overlypersonal.
Right, those are some of the.
You have abnormal emotions andthings like that.
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So if you're struggling withuncertainty, there's some
strategies you got to look atand we want to go into the word
of God and start looking at that.
So those are some of the thingsyou want to look for.
So the first thing I want todeal with, pastor, is anxiety,
how anxiety forms when we'redealing with uncertainty.
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And I want to go here inProverbs Let me pull this up for
you here, proverbs, and if youget it before I get it that,
that would be great.
But I want to pull up Proverbsand Look at this passage of
Scripture Okay, proverbs,chapter 12, and let's go to
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verse 24, 25, okay, mm-hmm.
So it says here, verse 25, itsays anxiety, which is distress,
being overly concerned, to thepoint where you've become
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emotionally unbalanced.
It says anxiety in the heart ofa man Causes depression, and I
think it's important for peopleto know where anxiety Lives.
We often think the anxiety is inour heads.
No, that's not where thatanxiety.
It starts in your head.
But anxiety has the ability tomove its way down into your
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heart and when, when you findyourself depressed, sadden,
sorrelful, your countness hasdropped.
David talked about that at onepoint.
Why is my countenance dropped?
I would lift my head to theLord, my God.
So when that's what's happening, that's because that anxiety
has gotten down into your heart.
It's got any heart and it saysbut a good word Makes it glad.
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Yeah, and that's the purpose ofdaily bread, because you may be
having anxiety in your heartright now from Uncertainty and
we want to bring you a good wordfrom God that you can navigate
that uncertainty that you'redealing with in your life.
The word of God, yourrelationship with God, spending
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time of God, trusting God,hoping in God and Loving the
life that God has given you andloving yourself, who God has
created you to be, is how youstart reading of that anxiety
that is in your heart and Putyou in a place of growth where
you can come out of that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Absolutely, and I think so.
What's so important?
Because immediately I startedthinking about the scripture and
Philippians, which we can go toPhilippians for yeah because I
not only do often quote thatmyself and I strive to live that
out, because when you wantsomething bad enough, you will
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do what you need to do to get itright and so, if you remember,
we talked about in the beginningthat we have to be sure to
Participate, and this is wherethat participation comes in, so
in Philippians, chapter 4.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I believe I'm going to begin at verse 6.
Let's see Philippians, chapter4.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Philippians 4, verse 6, right, and I'm reading King
James this is be careful fornothing which is anxious.
Be anxious for nothing thereyou go, but in everything right
there, that right there, ineverything, by prayer and
supplication.
See, there's something for usto do now.
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Look at how God did his partand you just read over in
proverbs.
But a good word a good word,but a good word make will make
you glad, right, and that's,that's true.
So here God is giving us a goodword.
Oh, right, yeah there's a goodword for that anxiety.
But watch what, watch how wehave to participate in, in
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everything by prayer andsupplication.
That's our part.
Amen, amen, with thanksgiving.
Let your request be made knownunto God.
This is oftentimes what wedon't do.
Instead of Bringing thoserequests to God of what we want
to see right when we have theanxiety, we complain about the
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anxiety.
We complain about the situation.
We're moaning and groaning, notrealizing God has already given
us this good word.
Right and all you have to do isdo the word and watch God word
work in your life.
So let's go on and look at thenext part of that, because I
love this particular scripture,and then I'm gonna, I'm gonna
jump out the way and the peaceof God.
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Once you do these things, thepeace of God which passes all,
all Understanding, shall keepyour hearts and minds through
Christ Jesus.
So when I have anxiety, mydesire is to have peace and get
rid of the anxiety.
Right, god has given me hisword and it's basically in
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essence saying if you do this,right.
The anxiety will leave right,but I have to do it right.
I have to do it.
So it doesn't mean no good toknow the word and not use the
word right and this is that partwhere I Keep talking about.
We have to participate becausein order to see the
manifestation of what God wordsays, we have to make it
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practical, practice it andutilize it right and man.
So this is how we get rid ofthe anxiety.
I love Philippians, for I'm.
The moment that anxiety startscreeping up on me, that it's
like the the scripture echoes inmy head.
You know what to do.
It's like you know what to do,so you have to make a decision.
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Do you want to keep bemoaningabout what's got you anxious or
do you want to use the word ofthe Lord?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I'll stay in silence about it.
Yeah, not even say anything,just keep it all in.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
And when you want.
That's why I said when you wantsomething bad enough.
Because, for me, I don't likeanxiety, though I I become
anxious, I don't like it, and somy goal is always to get rid of
it.
Right, I want to hurry up andget rid of it.
Right and we've got to knowthat God has given us his word
for these types of situations.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Right.
Watch this.
Watch this now.
Proverbs said that anxiety getsinto your heart.
It said anxiety in a heart of aman Leads to depression.
Philippians turns around andsays in everything, if you pray
and give supplication, the peaceof God is going to guard your
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heart.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, so in your mind.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So the anxiety can't get into your heart If prayer or
supplication and thanksgivingis a guard around your heart.
So when anxiety when you, whenyou are worried or concerned
about something uncertain,concern that turns into worry,
that tries to go into Anxiety,if you're praying and you're
having thanksgiving is the keypoint you don't just pray oh God
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, get this out my life.
You got to give a hallelujah.
No, I think you do.
I think you in it, I think youout of it.
Yeah, I think you're under itand around it.
I give your name glory in themidst of it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I should buck you got , even though I'm in this pain,
even though I'm going throughthis surgery, even though I got
this cancer, even though.
I got this debt.
Yeah, you got to up some things.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You got any on your thanksgiving, you do come on
somebody you do.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
If you up the any on your thanksgiving, that whole
Philippians 6 and 7 thing willwork Right.
Oh my god, we can.
We can think it all day.
We can.
We can call ourselvespracticing it, we can practice
it all day, but it is thethanksgiving, that is the part
of the three-part ingredient,that shifts you, shifts you into
that mode of peace, because youare practicing rejoicing Rather
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than where are you?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Absolutely, because it's not just about letting your
request be made known unto God,because that's not all it says
Right, it is the supplicating,it is the thanksgiving, it is
giving up the praise and it putsa guard around your heart it
does Like blocks the anxietyfrom trying to come in.
What's beautiful is that youcan't.
You cannot have Thanksgivingand anxiety at the same party.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I like that you can't .
Speaker 2 (28:42):
One has to leave one has to leave what has to leave,
and Thanksgiving will trumpetevery time every time, every
time, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So if anxiety is in your heart, I go through.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You right now go through anxiety.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Absolutely.
I go through anxiety, but Iknow how to replace that I.
Sometimes anxiety can take youso low.
You can beat yourself up andI'm talking to somebody on this
journey right now I feel it inthe Holy Ghost somebody right
now.
You beat yourself up.
We all we do it.
Yes, we do.
Fail a test, don't achievesomething, go through rejection
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from Wanting to be in a group, acrowd or something like that,
feeling unbalanced in your lifeand in your achievements, and we
can beat ourselves up, mm-hmm,and we become anxious, anxious.
But the Bible says listen,there is nothing worth being
anxious about, because it saysbe anxious for nothing.
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Nothing, and so we have to trainourselves to know how to guard
our hearts with prayer andThanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, See, I believe, I believe, apostle, that you
know a big part and I'm gonnasay, at least it is for me.
Yeah is that there are.
There are things that I havedecided that I want.
Yeah and there are things thatI have decided that I don't come
on.
And so when the thing that Idon't want shows up, yeah, then
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I work very diligently To getrid of it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I know that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I am diligent, I am, I am diligent, I don't.
I.
I'm not a Debbie Downer.
Come on, I love a good time.
All the time.
I like to be up, I like to behigh, I like to give God praise
because when, when, I mean allthe way up.
When I think about the goodnessof Jesus and all that he's done,
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but when I think about this,this, this amazing God, right
that we serve the Creator, andhow he created us and created
things and right all of that,when I think about that and I, I
realized I'm still breathing, Istill have life.
I've made lots of mistakes, I'vedone crazy things.
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Oh, my god and the God ofCreation, yeah, oh, glory,
almost, lord, have mercy, he hasbeen Keeping me.
Oh, I dare not allow certainthings to stay with me long.
And so I think that, forbecause, like like I said a
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minute ago, yeah, anxiety, ashow up, but immediately I'm
working to get rid of it,because I'm not interested in
having that as a part of my life, because it absolutely will
pull you down, it Absolutelywill cause you to be in the
wrong mind, space and all ofthose things, and that's why
it's so, it's so important forus to get to the, to the point
where the Trigger in us has tobe what is the word?
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The trigger to the response ofunknown, not knowing and anxiety
and worry has to be what doesGod's word say about this?
Because this is something hedoes not have Intended for my
life, that's absolutely right,you know yeah.
And, and, and.
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I think that if we can startdrawing a line in the sand, as
they say, right and say theseare the things that I want.
What's so ever lovely.
What's so ever, it's pure.
What's so is love a good report.
You know the joy.
Lord is my strength.
You know what I'm saying theseare.
There's some things that I know, that I want, but I also have
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to be mindful of the things thatI don't want, and so when those
things creep in, I have to.
I have to become Adam yeah.
To get those things out?
Yeah, because I know where theycould take me right right.
You know what I mean and Ithink it's important for us to
make that line, draw that linein the sand, so that we will be
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Intentional about the workthat's required.
Oh my god Intentional, because Ifeel like and I'm just gonna
throw this out here I Just feellike sometimes we become lazy
Christians.
We want the preacher to do it,we want the.
You know we won't Stop it, youokay.
You said come on, give me aword.
Give me a word, and God is likethere's a whole.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Bible full of word.
There's a word in you, you, I'ma word lives in Christ the word
made flesh.
The word of God lives on theinside of me.
In the beginning was the wordand the word was God and the
world was with God.
Absolute word became flesh andamong Jesus is the word and he
abides on the inside.
So you have you.
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That's what David said, and Iwill hide your word in my heart
that I will not sin against youabsolutely.
So we're talking aboutnavigating the uncertainties of
life and how to guard your heartfrom anxiety, and that remedy
is, and that recipe is, to Beanxious for it.
Don't let anything make youanxious, but take everything,
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everything to God in prayer.
Don't hold it in.
That's the part right there.
We don't make it to prayerbecause we hold it in.
Take everything to God, andthen, of course, we do like you
say.
We may complain or either willshare it with other people, but
people can't do what God can do.
Come on somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Oh, my god you just said.
Oh, what you said, is that sopowerful?
Is that Oftentimes and I know,for this has been the attack
against me probably my wholelife and that is the enemy wants
to keep your mouth closed.
So see, when I think aboutTelling, like bringing those
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things to God, like whatPhilippians 4 tells us to do,
yeah, you got to open your mouth.
Yeah, but not only in that, butalso in the Thanksgiving, right
, you got to open your mouth.
And so one of the greatestassaults I believe that the
enemy brings against us is tokeep our mouths closed Because
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the pain feels so paralyzingthat's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh, that is so good.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And he doesn't want us to oh this field.
Yes he doesn't want us to openour mouths.
A because we don't feel worthy,or B because we feel like God
must not care, because I'm goingthrough this.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
But, what?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
what we've got to realize is that the enemy is
aware of the weapon that we havecalled our mouth Right knows
that if we open up our mouthsthat we can create life, says
the word of God.
I mean it.
The tongue creates death inlife, but we have the power to
create life.
We have the power to prophesyto our own self by the Holy God.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I was about to say that, my God, you need to hear
yourself Proclaiming and decree,so you can, your belief grows,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And even in what we're praying unto the Lord, and
I can't help but think aboutthe scripture that says you know
, faith comes by hearing, yeah,and hearing by the word of God.
What if we are saying the wordof God out loud?
Yeah our faith grows right,absolutely.
But sometimes we want God tojust drop it down out of heaven.
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We've got to do our part.
At the end of the day, we'vegot to do our part, and now I'm
gonna jump and go to this,because I love this one too.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I love this scripture , that's okay.
Proverbs 3, and, and this oneis just basically concerning how
God wants us to trust him andUs now lean to our own
understanding.
Yeah, see, I think anxietycomes from when we're trying to
do it ourselves.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh, that ties into the story I'm just reading.
Oh Jesus, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
When we're trying to do it ourselves in our own
strength, the way we think it'ssupposed to be done, and we've
not consulted God at all, we'venot listened to the Holy Spirit,
we've not gotten a word on thematter.
I believe that that sometimesis the place where anxiety Comes
in and the it sometime can belife.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yes, trying to do life ourselves.
Can you say that three times?
That's real life, life, life,that's pretty much how to do
life ourselves.
Sometimes we're trying to dosurvival.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Our sales and protection.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
You know, and, and, oh my god, oh, now think about
that come on folks who want ajourney with us, trying to
protect ourselves from pain ormore pain, or from unwanted
outcomes.
Or Sometimes we're trying toprotect ourselves from normalcy,
from the norm.
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Let me explain that.
See, let's take relationships,for example.
You know it is normal forrelationships to go bad Mm-hmm.
It is normal for relationshipsnot to work out Mm-hmm.
It is normal for relationshipsto be a certain way.
And so for us to assume that wedo.
I don't ever want to go througha bad.
I don't ever want to go.
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You're trying to protectyourself from what is normal.
Yeah, you have to trust God Foryour protection.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, the trust God for your life that reminds me of
the scripture they talked aboutLove is long suffering.
Yeah and we forget that part oflove, right?
You think about relationshipsand you think about we don't
think about that people aregoing to hurt your feelings.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
They're gonna break your heart.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
They're gonna disappoint me, we're gonna
disappoint people.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
We're gonna break some people's hearts.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
We're gonna be that as well to other people, and I
think that we forget that.
The scripture really clues usin on that reality that there is
suffering that comes with loveright, absolutely.
There's suffering that comeswith it.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Absolutely I want to.
I want to start closing out onthis point right here, because
we're out of time for thisepisode.
We're running out of time forthis episode, so I'm going to
take just bring up this passageof scripture and just a point
here.
I'm in Proverbs, chapter 16,because because Philippians
talked about everything, yeah,you know, in anxiety, don't be
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anxiety, don't have anxiety fornothing, but in everything, and
everything is, is, is, is huge.
No one Manages everything well,but God.
And then there is no one who is, oh my God, enough, powerful
enough To deal with everythingin my life.
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But God can't even handleeverything in my life.
I need God and you need God.
Here's what this text says.
It says proper, proper 16 andverse 9 I mean, put my seers on,
make sure I got it proper 16and verse 9 says this a man's
heart Plans his way now,remember all this that we've
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been talking about keeps goingback to the heart and anxiety
tries to get in the heart, butprayer, supplication with
thanksgiving guards the heart.
So this is where thisuncertainty wants to bed and
seed and create depression,anxiety, worry, and we're gonna
talk about those things.
But it says this it says aman's heart plans his ways, but
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the Lord Directs his steps.
Oh my God, yeah.
And so when you start talkingabout everything, be anxious for
nothing.
But in everything, what prayerand supplication with
thanksgiving, take everything toGod, man, and and I have a note
here this says God is sovereignand in control of everything.
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That's what sovereign means tobe in control of everything.
There's no area in the world,nothing in your life, that God
is not sovereign over.
It says nothing happens withouthis knowledge or his permission
.
He has a plan and a purpose foreverything, even if we don't
understand it.
He can use uncertainty to testyour faith.
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You may be going throughuncertainty because God is
testing your faith.
Yeah, when the children ofIsrael were in the wilderness,
uncertainty, yeah, god wastesting what was in their hearts
.
Remember he said I took youthrough the wilderness to show
you what was in your heart.
To purge out of your heart thosethings that was in your heart.
(41:05):
So sometimes you're in anuncertain situation this one,
you got to have thanksgivingbecause you don't even know if
God did it, did the devil do it?
You got it.
You got a way to gotta bepatient.
You got to practice patienceand endure suffering like a good
soldier and do hardship like agood soldier, because God could
be the very one behind theuncertainty and you're like I
know, he's been the one behindmine in a lot of times.
(41:28):
Watch this.
It also says that he could useuncertainty to refine your
character.
Yep, oh, my god, let's see what.
Are you gonna go off?
Yep.
Are you gonna turn away from me?
Yep, are you gonna?
Are you gonna stop loving meAbsolutely?
Are you gonna stop serving me?
Yeah.
Are you gonna change your mindabout me?
Yeah, are you gonna change yourmind about you?
Are you gonna change yourcharacter?
(41:48):
Are you gonna?
Are you gonna go from beingloving to mean and angry and
spiteful and reason?
He's gonna test your character.
He's gonna see what you'regonna do.
Yeah, oh my god.
It says this right here and heuses it and this is the great
part goes back to Philippians todraw us us closer to him.
This is why God allowsuncertainty in your life,
(42:09):
because think about it.
It said be anxious for nothing,but in all things, through
prayer and supplication, withthanksgiving, let your request
be made known under God, come toGod.
So he's using it to draw uscloser to him.
You we're not the only onesthat's uncertain, or been
uncertain.
Think about Moses.
How in the world, god, yougonna have me Go back to the
(42:34):
place where I killed a man?
You want me to go back to thehouse I fled away from yeah, to
the king I fled away from, to mystepdad, who is a ruthless
Egyptian who wants to kill me,and you'll send me back to him,
to the Pharaoh, the mostpowerful person known on the
(42:56):
planet, and and tell him to Letall his citizens and residents,
who are Israelites, go free,right, who are the labor force
and Changed the narrative of hisentire nation and the GDP of
his whole nation.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Am I gonna get?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
killed.
The moment I want is a.
Hebrew person gonna kill me,are they gonna even listen to me
?
So he had to navigate thatuncertainty.
Absolutely.
Speak to our audience as weclose it out.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You know we have to, we have to.
You know what you just saidabout Moses.
It's like a whole movie justflashed before me and the
uncertainty that he had to beright, dylan would, day after
(43:50):
day after day and Year afteryear after absolutely, and we
have to be able to look into thescripture, at these testimonies
, at these others that have gonebefore us, and Really look at
(44:11):
their Situations, although weknow the end of the story
because we've already read itright, but sometimes it's
necessary to go back and reallyread it and really read it and
put yourself in it, and, and,and I think it Will help us to
show how important it is that,even when we're in some of the
most dire situations yeah, thatwas dire right for Moses right
(44:35):
we have to be mindful right tohold on to God.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's it.
Hold on to God.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,that's out of.
We're out of time.
That's our first episode ofthis navigate uncertainty.
We're gonna have to come back,yeah, so we'll do an episode to
navigate uncertainty and thatyou can download and listen to
for yourself.
We want to thank you for Goingon this journey with us.
We pray that your curiosity waspeak.
(45:02):
We pray that your excitementwas filled.
We pray that your journal, somethings and you thought about
where you are with uncertaintyand how to overcome it.
So come back for our nextepisode and download that, that
episode and listen to it so youcan be strengthened about
navigating uncertainty.
Thank you all again, we'regonna talk with you and be with
you next time on daily bread.
(45:23):
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