When Life Doesn't Make Sense

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What do you do when life throws you into chaos and nothing makes sense anymore? On this episode of the Daily Bread Podcast, we confront the disarray and uncertainty that many of us experience today. We navigate through the political, economic, and social upheavals, urging our listeners to adapt and rebuild from the fragments of their disrupted lives. We reflect on a prophetic word about global shaking and emphasize the importance of anchoring ourselves in God's enduring word. Amidst this turbulence, we also take a moment to cherish the beauty and strength found in enduring love and partnership.

Have you felt the weight of increased anxiety and depression during these trying times? You're not alone. We touch on the compounded stress faced by leaders, particularly within the body of Christ, and the challenge of maintaining a facade of stability amidst personal turmoil. Highlighting Proverbs 3:5, we discuss the necessity of trusting in God rather than relying on our understanding. We encourage leaders and individuals to embrace vulnerability and self-care, break away from the unrealistic narrative of perfection, and seek peace and direction through faith.

Ever wondered how suffering can lead to greater character and fulfillment? By recounting the stories of Job and Joseph, we offer powerful examples of unwavering faith and resilience in the face of immense hardship. We stress the transformative power of suffering and the importance of actively participating in God's plan, even in the darkest times. This episode is a compelling call to find strength in suffering, trust in God's plan, and support each other through life's uncertainties. Join us for this heartfelt and enriching discussion that aims to ground you in faith and fortify your spirit amidst life's chaos.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome everybody once again to Daily Bread
Podcast.
We are so excited to be here ontoday.
It has been a minute.
It has been a minute.
It's been a minute since wehave been in the studio
recording for you and bringingyou some material that would
change your life.
Let me stop for a moment andgive you an opportunity to say,

(00:25):
give Angela an opportunity tosay hi and to greet you all as
we get ready on today.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey everybody, so good to be here.
As my husband has said, it hasbeen a minute, but we are glad
to be back in the spot, we'reglad to be back in the pocket,
you know, to share what the Lordhas given us, to share that you
might be blessed, encouraged,inspired to move forward in
whatever endeavors God has laidin your path.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah that's great.
I want to take a moment to praybecause we have some great
material and, of course, youknow, satan always tries to
attack and distract, and we'vehad so much distraction trying
to get on today and bring yousome great material.
So I just want to pray and getset into the spirit real good so

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Does that make sense?
Father?
We thank you so much for yourpeace that surpasses all
understanding.
We thank you that we've made itto this point.
We thank you, we thank you, god, that we know your power moves,
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I know for a fact many peopleneed to hear this and many
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will be done unto your gloryand will be all of you and none
of us.
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Amen, all right, we're totally,totally excited.
Today we have a tough topic totalk about and it's very
relevant.
I would say Angela is veryrelevant in this day and time.
Our topic for this session iswhen life doesn't make sense.

(02:58):
I'm sure that hit everybody.
When life doesn't make sense.
Now, do you want to know whenlife doesn't make sense right
now?
Life doesn't make sense rightnow there is so much going on.
There's so much deception,manipulation, argument, division

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, so much covering up of what isright, to the degree that you
don't know what's right, what'sthe truth or lie anymore.
And the Bible says in the lastdays, men's hearts would grow a
wax cold and times will growworse and worse, and men will

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become lovers of themselves morethan lovers of God, haughty,
prideful, high minded.
And we're living in a time ofdelusion around the globe.
There is so much upheavaleverywhere, both politically,
economically, religiously,culturally, socially,

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technologically.
There's so much upheaval.
It's like God has shaken thefoundation of the earth realm
and everything has been shakenup and moved out of place.
And now everybody is trying tofind out how do I fit my pieces
back into my puzzle?
And I would tell people rightnow, when life doesn't make
sense, don't try to create theold puzzle, create a new one.
You have to.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You got to take those pieces and create a new puzzle
altogether I would dare say youhave to.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
When you said that, I thought about a prophetic word
that the Lord had given you, andI was sitting here trying to
remember if it was 2019, thebeginning of 2019.
I can't remember, but it wasabout shaking and that
everything that could be shakenwould be shaken, and I think
we're seeing that in these lastfew years for sure, even in the

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body of Christ.
You know what I mean.
It's just a lot of shaking andit's so important.
I think one of the reasons, oneof the many reasons why this
podcast is so important becausewe keep the goal is to keep
trying to get people back toGod's word absolutely because,
you know, not only did COVIDcome in and just blow all of our

(05:13):
minds rightupset everybody's world right,
um, where?
Where we were forced to do whatyou said to create a new puzzle
, to to do a new book.
A lot of things are not donethe way they used to be, and I
remember us talking about howgetting back to the way things
were was not really the optimalplan.
It should be about movingforward, to figure out what the

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next plan is going to be.
So when you said that it tookme back to that whole shaking
and that reality and that thoseof us who do not hold on to the
word of God, those of us who arenot anchored in Jesus Christ,
we might get shook, You'reabsolutely right, we will be,

Speaker 1 (05:54):
shaken if we're not anchored in Jesus Christ.
I have to pause for a moment.
I always get overwhelmed atyour beauty when we're sitting
and talking and doing, and youlook so beautiful today, thank
you very much.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I appreciate that, and you look very handsome.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, thank you so much, you're welcome 30 years
and you look just as good as youdid in year one, hey now Come
on, hallelujah.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Anyway, let me jump back in, Okay we're back.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
We're back, but just to pause for a moment and echo
what you said about the pandemic, I think that it is wise for us
to take a step back in theday-to-day melee of all of our
responsibilities and remember topractice mercy, because all of
the globe is still coming downoff the thrust of the pandemic.

(06:44):
Absolutely we have to, as weare listening to people and
we're seeing the upheaval andwe're seeing the dysfunction and
the division.
We've got to remember thatpeople are not the same anymore.
I'm not the same anymore afterthe pandemic.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You're not the same anymore after the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
So we're learning how to reinvent culture.
You know we're in the same body, but the brain in the body is
different Absolutely, and we'retrying to figure out how to be
ourselves in a different bodyAbsolutely.
And so we need to extend thatsame grace and mercy to other
people, and I try to practicethis as much as I can.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
There's so much mental health, so many mental
health issues and deep mentalhealth problems in every
generation right now, and COVIDhad a lot to do with that
Absolutely, because you know, Ithought about the level of
anxiety that increased as aresult of what we went through
with COVID Not knowing if wewere safe or not, not knowing if

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we were exposed or not.
And then for those whocontracted the virus, are they
going to be okay?
Is it if it's just mildsymptoms, is it going to stay
mild?
You know, and I think thatanxiety, with being closed off
and separated from people andyou know, even those who lived
alone I can only imagine whattheir, how their worlds were

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turned upside down, which isbeing at home alone all the time
.
And then, of course, the news.
You know, if that's a thingthat they were, they were
watching to see what was goingon in the world that was that.
That could have been veryoverwhelming Anxiety I feel like
just compounded, has compoundedover the years and really

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tipped us over into this.
What we're seeing is extremecases of mental health crisis.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Absolutely.
You know.
This is not.
You know, this is just.
We're just laying a foundationfor our conversation.
I think this is a veryimportant part of our
introduction.
I think this is a veryimportant part of our
introduction.
Let me read you to just twostatistics that I think will
help our audience understand whywe're bringing this out and why

(08:56):
it's important.
The World Health Organization,who, in 2021, said that global
prevalence of anxiety anddepression increased by 25%
during the pandemic Watch this,the uncertainty and widespread

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disruption, though, led tosignificant feelings of despair
here it is and confusion,especially in vulnerable
populations.
So everybody is kind of dealingwith this despair, this
confusion, and we're coming offthe end of it.
We're coming off the buddy endof the despair and the confusion
.
We're trying to get back into arhythm in society, but we still
have the impact of the trauma.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Absolutely.
And if I can add something tothat, the reality for people in
leadership and especially in thebody of Christ I feel like
there is there what's added ontothat is a coverup in terms of

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I'm okay, right, becauseunfortunately it's not been safe
to say I'm not OK as a leaderin the body of Christ.
And so when you think aboutthese feelings of despair and
confusion for a leader, aspiritual leader, in a space

(10:19):
where it feels like it's notever really been okay to not be
okay, Right.
Adds additional stressors RightTo it, because if I'm dealing
with confusion and I'm dealingwith despair but I can't really
tell anybody, that's addingextra stress.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Why are we trying to performand act like life makes sense
when, in all actuality,everybody knows right now?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
life doesn't make sense, and I think it's because
we feel like people don't allowus not to be OK.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know, the expectation.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, the question was rhetorical.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, Right, right, exactly, yeah, yeah, that
question was rhetorical.
Yeah, you know, I think that Idon't know, and we know this, of
course that sometimes leadersare not looked at as human, you

(11:21):
know, looked at as Superman,superwoman, like there is no
human side.
So clearly, you can't havedespair going on, you can't have
confusion going on, because youare a you're God's man, you're
God's woman, but the reality isis that's not true.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, you know, and that really goes across the
board to moms and dads, andevery day people who are trying
to manage their responsibilitiesand function within a community
whether that's a work community, you know, an actual
geographical community.
If that's a church community,you know everybody kind of feels

(11:52):
like you know it's not okay toshow that you're not okay, but
we must.
This is the time to take a stepback and do what you need to do
for your mental health andself-care.
And if that means no longerbuying into the narrative of
performance and looking perfectfor other people, then you need
to do that because as a leader,you can change the narrative.

(12:14):
Absolutely If you're the oneeverybody is looking at whether
it's in your family, community,wherever and you start showing
that, you start speaking out andtalking and sharing you know
and being vulnerable.
That's basically what it is.
People will learn and emulateand do the same thing.
So today, as we're talkingabout when life doesn't make
sense, we're basically trying toexamine and understand the

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perplexing seasons of life andfinding hope in God's unchanging
truth.
And that's the answer.
We're in this perplexing seasonof life and when you're there
and it happens at differentseasons and times and now it's
global you have to be able tofind hope in God's unchanging
truth and this unchanging nature, because God is the only
constant.
His truth is the only thingthat's stable.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
And I think that that's like one of those things
that should be highlighted.
We need to be reminded of that.
We need to remind ourselves ofthat.
I feel like every day that thatthe one thing, that that does
not change, while everythingelse is changing is.
God, god's word, his word isnot going to change, his nature
is not going to change, and Ithink we we need to constantly

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remind ourselves of thatgrounding purposes.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right.
Well, that's since we'retalking about trust in God,
unstable times, dealing withperplexing stress when life
doesn't make sense, I think it'sall about trusting God.
And I want to go to Proverbsthree, verse five, and, and read
this for our listening audienceon the day.
And it says trust.
What does trust mean?
Depend, lean on, believe in itmeans to have a hopeful

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expectation that God is, can andwill.
It's a trust.
You know what I mean.
It means I could put myabsolute, total dependence on
God.
It says trust in the Lord withall of your heart I love that
part and lean not on your ownunderstanding, but in all your

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ways, acknowledge him and heshall direct your path.
Acknowledge him and he shalldirect your path.
And I see here that this wholething about direction comes up
in this passage, because that'swhat we're all searching for.
How do I be a good parent?
How do I be a great employee?
How do I be a successfulentrepreneur?

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How do I manage myresponsibility?
How do I make it through thistough season?
So we're looking for directionin our thinking, direction in
our actions, direction in ourplanning.
And the bible clearly tells ushere in proverbs 3 how do I get
this direction.
How do I, how do I get peacewith direction that's trusting
god, yeah, and not trusting inmyself?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
absolutely yeah, absolutely that is so good and I
love, I love the portion ofthat scripture that talks about
leaning not to our ownunderstanding, because I think
sometimes that's the trap.
That's the trap because ourunderstanding oftentimes is
based on what we're goingthrough what we're looking at

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what our perspective is of aparticular situation, and so
from that we start makingdecisions, and that's not the
right route to go.
You know what I mean, and so Ifor one, I just love both of
these scriptures, but I thinkthat not leaning is the part
that requires a lot ofintentionality, a lot of

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practice, because I think humannature is to lean on self.
Oh my God, because I could talkabout independence and all that
.
But we have to remember, thoughwe can be independent, we have
to remember to depend on God youknow, and that has to be like
this for the thing that's on theforefront of our mind that.

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I have to depend on God.
Just the other day, when I wasin prayer and devotion, I wrote
because I had all of thesethoughts swirling around in my
mind, all of these things that Iknew I needed to do, all of
these things that I wasn'tcertain of or wasn't sure what's
going to happen with this, thator a third ie when life doesn't
make sense.

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And I wrote a note and I said,god, I have no idea about a lot
of things, but what I do know isthat I trust you completely.
That is my truth, and I wrotethat in my journal and it gave
me.
And it gave me such a piece,it's like, because we can.

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We can, we can spin out, if youwill, on the things we don't
know and that we don'tunderstand.
But what if we rerouted ourfocus to what I do know?
And when I did that, I thoughtabout a few things, not even a
lot of them, but a few thingsthat God had done when I was in

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a similar type of situation notknowing which way to go, not
knowing what he's doing, notknowing all these things.
But the one thing that I wascertain of is that he always
showed up, he always opened thedoor, he always provided, or
whatever it was.
You know what I mean.
And so when I wrote that, itwas like this quick reflection

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of he's never failed me and so Itrust God, even when I don't
trust me.
You know, I trust God.
I don't have to trust thesystem, I don't have to trust a
job, I don't have to trust thosethings when I am sold out on
trusting God, why?
Because his resume is good withme.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's right.
His reputation, his history.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's good with you.
You know I was thinking aboutand let me just stop and again
thank our audience.
I hope you're enjoying so farwhat we're talking about when
life doesn't make sense.
You know, I thought about here,as you were talking, what has
been Satan's role and our role,two roles in getting us to lean

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into our own understanding.
And I thought about Eve in theGarden of Eden.
She had a spirit mind and aword mind based on what God had
told her Don't eat from the treeof the knowledge of good and
evil.
Right, so she had a word mind,she had a spirit mind.
Satan comes along and tells hersomething different that gets

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her to shift into her flesh mind.
He said oh God knows, you'renot going to die, you're going
to be like God.
So he tries to get her to focuson herself, self, self, self.
And once she started focusingon herself, she started leaning
to her own understanding.
That's good.
She started.
Well, I might be missingsomething, because the Bible

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says she starts seeing the treedifferent.
It started looking good, it waspleasant to the eye, it was
good for food.
It didn't look like that atfirst, when she was in her God
mind and she was in her spiritmind and she was in her word
mind and nothing was able tobreak the link between her and
God mind, her and word mind.
And then Satan comes along,because that's his whole thing

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is to get us to depend onourselves and not trust in God.
And the second you know, whatis our role?
Because Satan is not always thereason why we're leaning to our
own understanding.
It's because we're walking inpride, arrogance and ego because
we're smart or we'reintellectual or we're skilled,
but neither Satan's plot nor ourarrogance should be the path we

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take in order to survive whenlife doesn't make sense.
It's going to have to be ourGod mind I wish I could have
said that better.
It's going to have to be ourGod mind and our spirit mind,
because when she was in her Godmind and spirit mind, nothing
was able to shake her.
She had a word, she had herintimacy with God and it was
unbroken.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You made me as you were talking about that.
It made me think about howsuggestive the devil is Right.
He's a suggestive seller, right, and he creates suggestions.
There you go, you know, and allI could see in that scenario in
that moment was what, if, what,if, what, if, and that's what

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he does to us.
We can know the word sold outin our word, mind and spirit
mind, but sometimes thosesuggestions slide in.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, what if?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Right, well, have you considered, have you thought
about?
And there we go, pondering.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
The seed it's been seeded into our minds.
Oh my God.
And now we're starting tocontemplate, oh my God, and now
we're starting to contemplate,giving life to the seed of
suggestion that was sown intoour minds.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh my goodness you know that's making me want to
stop and ask our audience rightnow Are you starting to
contemplate changing the pattern?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
that.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
God has given you?
Are you starting to entertainsome suggestive things that you
know don't align with yourpurpose and your calling?
Are you starting to considersome relationships that you know
are out of the will of God, arejust not beneficial to your

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goal, dreams, purpose, passion,where you're going in life?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Is there a suggestion that?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
you need to set aside and say I'm not going to
entertain that Suggestiveselling by the enemy is real and
I just want to challengesomeone right now, in this
moment.
Think about it.
What suggestion are youentertaining that could derail
you?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Absolutely.
And get you out of your Godmind and your God intimacy,
because when life is not makingsense, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
When life is not making sense, the last thing you
need to do is get out ofalignment.
Get out of alignment with thewill of God for your life.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
And here's the thing when life doesn't make sense is
the most opportune time for thatenemy right to assault you with
suggestion.
Right, it's when it doesn'tmake sense, because in the pit
we get frustrated, because wedon't know the timing, we don't

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know the when, we don't know thehow, even though we know the
who, because of sometimes howwe're wired.
We want to know the timing.
We don't know the when, wedon't know the how, even though
we know the who, because ofsometimes how we're wired.
We want to know the details.
But when we think about thenature of God, god is not into
details like that, not how wewant him to be.
You know what I mean.
Well, when, god, on what day,and then how are you going to do
, who are you going to use, andthen what am I going to be doing

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and what are they going to bedoing?
We want to know all of that.
But when life is not makingsense, we are absent of detail
and it is the perfectopportunity for the enemy to
come in with a suggestion,because in that suggestion are
details.
Oh my God, what if you did thislike that?

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What if you gave him or her aphone call?
What?
Because maybe then you could doX, y, z.
See, sometimes the enemy knowsus.
That's another part of it.
He knows us, he knows what welike, he knows what we sometimes
are seeking after in our flesh,and he's going to suggestively

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bring that very thing in thistime when life is not making
sense, to try to seduce us.
This is so good, and I feel thelord, to seduce us out of the
perfect will of god that's sogood.
And that just made me think backto Eve.
Wow, to seduce us out of theperfect.

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See, oh, this is good, theperfect, maybe now fully
understood will of God, becausefully understanding his will, or
not understanding, does nottake away the perfection of his
will, right, jesus?
Oh, I hope y'all get that, Ihope you get that, because

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oftentimes the reason we don'twalk in his perfect will is
because we don't understand.
Wow, oh, oh my God, oh my God.
But see, I hear the scripturesaying my ways are not yours and
my thoughts are not yours.
Glory to God, and so we have toremember.
That's why it's so good to bein the word and to know the word

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and then, to know the nature ofGod.
So when we find ourselves inthese types of situations, we
can think through the word ofGod, think through the nature of
God and understand oh, there'snothing wrong with this perfect
will.
God will reveal it to me as Igo along the way.
He will reveal whatever mysteryI need to know when I need to

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know it.
Glory be to God, because hetold Abraham leave your father's
house, leave your father'shouse, just leave.
That's all he said, and go to aplace I will show you.
That's all he had right.
I will show you when I getready to show you.
That's when I'll do it.
You know what I mean.
And so we have to remember that.

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And that was perfect.
Well, that was perfect, Well,will for Abraham.
But it didn't give a lot ofdetail.
It didn't give a lot of detail.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
So really, what I'm beginning to get a sense of here
is stop expecting life to makesense.
Sense is the problem.
That's good.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Sense is the problem.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Wow, that's really good.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Because, in all honesty, all the days of my life
, life has never made sense, notin the practical ramifications
of what I think sense is in mylife.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
It shows that we're not in control.
And the more we try to be incontrol, the more stressed out
we become, because life is nottameable.
It's not a bull, it's not ahorse, it's not a pet.
Oh my God.
It's not something we cancontrol.
So stop trying to make lifemake sense and let God be your

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truth.
Oh my God, that's so good.
Tap into the mind of Christ.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
That is so good.
See, I just thought about whichis one of my favorite
scriptures the steps of a goodman are ordered by the Lord.
So if I think about that in thecontext of what you were just
talking about.
Stop expecting life to makesense.
I need to just focus on what'sbeen ordered for me.
Hallelujah, that's good.

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That's a pause what's been.
I just need to focus on what'sbeen ordered for me, because
what's going to happen in thatis it's going to lead me on a
lifelong search of what God hasordered, hallelujah, so that I
am sure to put my foot where Godhas ordered my foot to be.

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Okay, I'm about to get you.
Oh, glory, hallelujah.
I want you to thank you Jesus.
Thank you Jesus.
No, that's good, I'm good, goahead.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Talk to me then about the time.
You see, you said we got tostep into when god orders, right
?
What about when god orderssuffering?
Yeah, okay, so let's jump intothis, because the number one
reason life often doesn't makesense to us, on repeat, it's

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suffering, compounded suffering,one challenge after the next
difficulty, after the next trial, after the next tribulation,
after the next problem, afterthe next scenario, after the
next circumstance, after the caraccident, after the layoff,
after the sickness in the body,after the child who cursed you

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out, after the mom who died,after the relocation, after the
company that closed, after theracist experience you went
through in the market, after thecar breaking down on your way
home from school.
All of it seems to be a bigfist.
Watch this, and if we don'tknow God and know his love, all

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of it seems to be like a bigfist from God punching you in
the face over and over and overand over and over again.
It's not God punching you, it'slife, because that's what life
does.
It punches, but God didn't stopthe suffering.
What do we do, then, when lifedoesn't make sense because of
suffering?
And I want to go to Job for ourexample, if y'all know the story

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of Job and most of my listenersdo.
If you don't know the story ofJob, go read it in the Bibles
right before the book of Psalms.
Job was a righteous man.
He was a family man.
He had a big family, about 10kids or so.
He was the wealthiest man inhis day, but he had prosperity,
not just money.
He was rich in soul, rich incompassion, rich in giving, rich
in wisdom.

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He was rich in character.
He was rich in righteousness.
And however God allowed Satan,because God knew Job was born to
survive it, he was born toovercome it, which is my next
book that's coming out.
Well, my next book coming outis Growing to your Greatness and
after that is Born to Overcome.

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It's going to be a great book.
But he went through all type ofdevastation, one trouble after
the next.
Kids got killed, his house wasraided, his home was burned down
, his cattle was taken, his bodybroke out with sickness.

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His reputation was ruined allover the land.
His wife even you know kind ofshe didn't give up on him, but
she questioned how much moreperseverance he would have left
to endure it.
And then Job says this in Job,chapter one, verse 20 through 22
.
The Bible says this.
The Bible says this.
Then Job arose tore his robe.
Now, back in biblical days, totear your robe was a sign of
sorrow, lamentation, just agony.

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You know, just lamentation.
You know.
He tore his robe, he shaved hishead because he's going through
sorrow.
I'm in Job, chapter one, verse20.
He shaved his head.
I have been so disgustedsometimes I've said I just want
to shave my head.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I'm so disgusted that's lamentation coming out.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's biblical lamentation coming out, he said,
and he fell to the ground andworshipped All that agony and
sorrow and pain.
He chose God over his self,over his problems, over suicide

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and all that suffering.
What do we do?
Choose God and all thatsuffering?
What do we do?
Get to your most humble placeof worship, period, and have you
ever been going throughsuffering and nothing else
worked for you but worshipabsolutely?
Absolutely absolutely you justbroke down on your knees and got

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on your face and said you knowwhat I'm done?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
yeah, it's all you now yeah dad.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, it's all you pops, it's all you father yeah
whatever you want to do with me,I'm your God, but that's the
key when life doesn't make senseGet to your most humble place
and worship.
We've talked about trust.
Now we're talking about worship, but worship in humility, not

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worship in.
Oh God, I just want you to pullme out of this it has to be in
spirit and in truth.
In spirit and in truth.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
According to the word of God, absolutely, oh my.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
God, another biblical character, unless you want to
piggyback on Job, Well, Ithought about the scripture that
talks about in order to reignwith Christ, we have to also
suffer with him.
Reign with Christ, we have toalso suffer with him.

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And you know, I can rememberone time years ago, talking to a
young lady about suffering andhow we have to learn to suffer
and of course, that's not atopic of interest.
Most times we have to do what wehave to learn to suffer.
You have to learn to suffer.
We're not taught that.
We're not taught how to suffer,so we have to learn it.
And how do you learn it?
You go through hard things andin that conversation she was

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frustrated because that's notsomething she wanted to hear.
But I said it's a reality,because sometimes you know, the
longer we take to learn thelesson, the longer we stay in
the, in the training, if youwill.
You know what I mean, which isa situation or a problem or
issue or dilemma, right, butwhen we, when we learn in that

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process, whatever it is that Godis planning to teach us, the
quicker we move on.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
It's just like school right, it's just like school.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
If we go to first grade and we don't do what is
necessary to move on to secondgrade second grade you're not
going to second grade, or atleast you shouldn't.
I don't know what the schoolsystems are doing all the time,
but the goal is preparation.
It's always.
What is happening now ispreparation for next.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
That's so good right that is so good, but when we
don't include suffering as apart of life, we why do I feel
the word dejected we becomedejected.
We become dejected like weseparate from life.
Wow, is that when we startentertaining the suicidal

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ideation?
Is that when we start plugging?
Is that when we are convincedthat we're getting ready to step
outside of God's will for ourlives?
Yeah because we don't includesuffering as a part of life.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh, my God, you reminded me of some statistics
that I read, and it's one abouttrauma and mental health.
2017 found that individuals whoexperience personal trauma,
such as abuse or loss of a lovedone, are significantly more

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likely to experience feelings ofworthlessness and despair, and
it showed that trauma survivorsare at increased risk for
depression, with nearly 30percent developing major
depression disorders within ayear of the traumatic event.
You see what I'm saying, and sowe have to understand that

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suffering has an impact on youand it will see you running.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
They're gone and I had.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I had another stat that I wanted to read and I just
found it here because I got toget this.
This.
This stat, I think, is going toshare a lot of light on what
we're talking about, and it saysthis Let me find this Now.

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Here it is.
It talks about how struggleimpacts character development.
And there is another study donethe same year 2017, published
in the Journal of PositivePsychology found that people who
experience significantstruggles, such as trauma, often
report positive changes incharacter, including increased

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resilience, a deeperappreciation for life, improved
personal relationships.
It says 50 to 60 percent ofindividuals report some form of
post-traumatic growth followingadversity.
So some type of post-traumaticgrowth following adversity.

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So some type of post-traumaticgrowth following adversity.
So we understand life is fullof suffering, but the suffering
doesn't have to define it.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And that's why I wanted to get to this statistic,
because, sure, life doesn'tmake sense when you're
compounded with suffering, butsuffering doesn't have to define
your today or your tomorrow.
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm going to let you know that that is no.
I was just thinking what agreat comment that is that it
doesn't have to define you.
You know like, and andimmediately I thought about when
we are grounded in Christ andit is through that grounding
that we accept, receive andembrace our identity.
When we do that, when Christ isfoundation and it makes me

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think about who's going to builda house without first counting
the costs and making sure thatyou're building on a solid
foundation.
You know what I mean it's like.
If, when you think about, whenwe think about life, we have to.
If we haven't done this already, I think it is so necessary
that we go back and figure outhow to redefine our foundation

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If Jesus Christ is not it.
And what I just felt the Lordsay is this is how you know.
Know, if your foundation isbuilt on Christ.
The Holy Spirit just gave thisto me.
If everyone were to, ifeveryone wants to walk away from
you, would you still trust God?
If every single person that youlove in this earth walked away

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from you, would you still love,trust and believe in God?
If the answer is an emphatic no, then it is good.
It will be good for you toredefine your foundation,
because you have to find outwhat your foundation is.
Oftentimes we make other peopleour foundation right in error

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right because, because we can'tkeep each other like god keeps
us, right, you know what I mean?
Because we all have anexpiration date, right?
So if we make our foundation onanother human being, what about
when that human being is nolonger there?
What about when that humanbeing is no longer capable?
Now we're left foundationless.

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But when we make our foundationon Jesus Christ, no matter what
storm we have to face, thatfoundation will remain, oh
anyway, shaken by what shakesglory.

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And so what I want what Ibelieve we all want is to be
connected with someone who, whenwe shake, they don't shake.
Glory to god, because if we'reall shaking, we're all about to
do something crazy and reckless.
I need, need stability when I'mshaking glory to God, and that
is who Jesus Christ is.

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He is the foundation that weare to build everything in our
lives on, so that when thetrauma comes, when the problem
comes, when the pain comes, whenall of these things come number
one we're able to weather thestorm and not die in it.
But number number one we'reable to weather the storm, yeah,
and not die in it, yeah, butnumber two, we're able to, uh,

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be resuscitated.
We're able to be revived fromit.
We're able to be healed anddelivered and set free, my god,
because he came to set thecaptive free.
So, oh, this is so good.
Glory to God.
But when we create, when weallow him to be our foundation

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I'm trying to calm down Allowhim to be our foundation.
We can face some of the worstthings.
We don't want to, but we can'tdictate life Right.
But when we can just bereminded that we have an anchor
that holds, no matter what I gothrough, he's not going to leave

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me, nor forsaken.
He's going to be there when I'mcrying and mad, or when I'm
praising and worshiping.
He's not going to be there whenI'm crying and mad or when I'm
praising and worshiping, it'snot going to move, and that's
the kind of foundation that weneed when life does not make
sense.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Wow, the subject.
What kept going off in my headis soul care.
You're talking about soul care,care for the soul, and I think
it's important that we as humanbeings be mindful that soul care
is important, amen.
It's just as important asspirit care and flesh care.

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Amen, because soul care, soulis the mind, the will and the
emotions.
And it's important piggybackingon what you said that we don't
put our soul care, the strengthof our soul care, over in the
relationship with human beings,because humanity is frail and

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it's not fair.
The only person that can giveyou soul strength is Jesus
Christ.
And I'm reminded of the book ofthird John, when John told Gaius
, above all things beloved, yes,I would that you would prosper
and be in health.
That's what he said, even asyour soul prosper.

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So that word even as your soulprosper equates soul prosper,
excuse me.
So soul prosperity on the samelevel with health prosperity and
on the same level withfinancial prosperity.
They are equal.
So we're running around doingall this physical quote, unquote

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physical prosperity becausewe're working out and we're
keeping our sexy going and wegot all the latest things, and
we have this financialprosperity.
We have the home, the car, thisand that, and, and we we say we
have spiritual prosperitybecause we're always at church,
but our minds are so confusedand fragmented and frail, our

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emotions are everywhere and ourdesire, our will, so your will
is your desire, your appetite,we're hungry for stuff that's no
good for us.
We want this and that, we wantthis person and that person.
We got a wife and want two more.
We got a husband and want threemore.
So something is wrong.
You're not giving your soulcare over to God and saying God,

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you are the healer of my soul.
You are the one I desire.
I want your thoughts in my mind.
I want to practice self-controlaccording to the fruit of the
Holy Spirit.
So I got to practice soul carethe same way I practice
financial care and physical care.
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I mean and you said it very well, it made me think
about you know, all of this isbuilding on where we started in
Proverbs.
Yeah, you know, totaldependence.
That's what trust is RightTrust, trust in the Lord is
totally depending on him foreverything.
Yeah, so that that definitelyaligns.
And we're just building on thatpremise to trust in the Lord,

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because I, because the only waythat I can make him my
foundation is if I trust him oh,that's so good Look, selah,
y'all got to pause and think onthat for just a moment.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I hope you're enjoying this real talk today
about what to do when lifedoesn't make sense, how to
thrive when life doesn't makesense, and we're talking about
suffering, because suffering canbe that compounding element
that really break you back andbreak you down and make you want
to give up.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I feel like the Lord just said something to me.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
And what I felt like he said is that somebody needs
to take their life off ofautopilot.
Somebody needs to take theirlife off of autopilot.
You're just trying to coastwithout doing anything.
That is so good, but I feellike the spirit of the lord says
this teaching what we'retalking about requires your

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involvement.
Talk to her glory, to god.
You have to be involved and youhave to participate.
Come on you.
It is your trust that is needed.
You have to trust God.
You can't ride the wave andjust say you do but you really
don't trust him.
You have to participate.
You can't lean on your ownunderstanding.

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See this scripture Proverbs 3,5, and 6,.
It's all about yourparticipation in order for
manifestation.
Lord, have mercy.
glory to God.
So you have to take your lifeoff of autopilot, which just
causes you to kind of do thiscruise control through life,
expecting someone else to be incontrol.

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You have to participate.
God does his part, but we havea part also that we have to do,
and God never fails.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
And look at what the terrible job that autopilot is
doing for me.
So far.
Oh my goodness, yeah, autopilotis not getting you to your goal
dream, right, yeah.
So, oh my God, that was so good.
I had a thought.
It jumped out of my head, but Iwant to come back.
So here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Refuse to allow suffering to define.
You Say that again.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Refuse to allow suffering to define you, period,
and this don't subscribe to thenarrative of pessimism and
victimization narrative ofpessimism and victimization to

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refuse to become negative andrefuse to become abused by life.
Stand up, stand up on yourblessed two feet and fight the
good fight of faith and let Godfinish the good work that he
started in you, because it's notfor us to finish our purpose,
our destiny and the good workhe's going to do it all.
Just be available, prevail andtravail through your suffering

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and watch God finish everythingabout your personhood, your
purpose, your personality, yourgoal.
He's going to finish it allbecause that's his work in you.
Now the power of the Holy Ghostis going to happen.
I love that.
I'm thinking about how Josephdid not allow suffering to
define him.
He was hurt.
Yeah, he was.
Joseph was hurt by what hisbrothers did to him.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
As he should have been.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
He was so hurt from being separated from his dad.
He was a daddy's boy.
He was spoiled.
But they ripped that boy fromhis father, threw him down in
that well, took his coat of manycolors, put blood on it, went
back and told Jacob your son,joseph, was eaten by an animal
and Joseph had been taken bysome slaves sold over in Egypt,
had experience going throughbeing in Potiphar's house and

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being in control and managingthings until his wife came and
lied on him and then he wasthrown into prison.
Y'all know the story of Joseph.
It's probably about 20, somechapters in Genesis, but I'm in
Genesis 50 because we look athis end.
Oh my God, don't let your now,oh my God, be the determining
factor for your end, becauseJoseph's end was nothing like

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his beginning.
His ladder was rated.
Okay, I need to stop preaching,but what Joseph realized in
chapter 50, in chapter 50 we seethe children of Israel and
Jacob and those who were left ofthe camp had come into Egypt.
Joseph had begun to provide forthem.
Joseph had two sons that his dad, jacob, laid hands on them,

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ephraim and Manasseh, and thenand then Joseph brothers.
Joseph has revealed himself tohis brothers that he I'm your
brother that you threw away andrejected.
And so Jacob dies and thebrothers are concerned that
Jacob Joseph is mad about whatthey did to him.
Dad gone now, joseph gone, getus.
And in chapter 50, joseph showsthem that I didn't let your

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suffering define me and hedidn't buy into the narrative of
being a victim.
And here's what he said inchapter.
I had to give you some context.
Chapter 50, genesis.
Chapter 50, in verse 20, josephsays this Well, I'm going to
start in verse 18.
Then his brothers also went andfell down before his face and

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they said behold, we are yourservants, verse 19.
Joseph said to them do not beafraid, because they were scared
.
Joseph, he's getting ready toget us.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
He said for I am in the place of God.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
This suffering has blessed me so much.
He was talking about theauthority that he has been given
.
He was talking about the mercythat he had in him to give away.
I got to stop, he says.
But as for you, you meant evilagainst me.
Watch this.
But God meant it for good, inorder to bring it about as it is

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this day, to save many peoplealive.
So that suffering remember Iread that statistic about 50 to
60% of people who go throughtraumatic experience, adversity
and suffering, come out of itwith greater character, come out
of it with a post-traumaticbenefit.

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And Joseph, right here, isshowing us that God will order
suffering in your steps and inyour path just because he's
trying to build up yourcharacter and take you to high
places to be able to deliverother people.
Oh my God.
But sometimes the road to yourgreatness, the road to your
destiny, the road to yourperfection, the road to the best

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version of you, is filled withpotholes of trouble and sorrow.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Absolutely, and we have to trust that God knows
what he's doing.
Come on, we have to trust, see,that goes back again.
We have to trust that God knowswhat he's doing.
One of the things that jumpedout to me when you first started
talking about Joseph's journeyand this is so powerful is how
we have to learn.
See, this is so powerful, ishow we have to learn.
See, this is a part ofsuffering.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
When we talked about learning to suffer, but we have
to learn how to manage emotionswhen the people that we love
don't love us back.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Oh, that's a honey baby child.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Oh Jesus, Because when you talked about Joseph's
hurt at what his brothers haddone, I believe one of the
reasons that he was so hurt I'vebeen here before is the one of
the reasons why he was so hurtabout it is because he loved his

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brothers.
Come on, and it is shockingwhen people that you love do
things to you that show you thatthey don't love you the way
that you love them, or or, evenbetter still, they just don't
love you but yet you love them.

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That is one of the most painfulthings.
It is.
When you talked about him beinghurt about what they had done.
I can only imagine the shock ofbeing the coat being snatched
off and these are brothers thathe went to go share this good

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news with Brothers that he wentto go and try to fellowship with
.
He wanted to be a part of theircrew and their circle.
He wanted to be around them andhave them snatch his coat off
aggressively and then throw himinto a hole.
These are people that weresupposed to love him but tried

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to destroy him.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
God, my God, can I tell you the destruction is
meant for your good.
The devil meant it for bad.
Come on, but God left you inthat fire.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Mercy.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Good, because your fire, your fire experience, will
save a nation.
Oh my God, your lion's denexperience will save the land.
Oh God, your lion's denexperience will save a family,
will save a family.
That will save a nation.

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See, your purpose is biggerthan you think.
You may have a mundane routineof going to work five days a
week and having a little thoughton the weekend and saving for
retirement, but there's ananointing and a purpose and a
plan on your life that's biggerthan your day to day.
So press through your suffering.
Trust.
Trusting God means it for yourgood, because he's in it with

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you.
Was he not in the prison withJoseph?
Was he not in slavery withJoseph?
Was he not in the pit withJoseph?
He was silent, but he wasworking a caravan to come pick
him up, just in case theychanged their mind to kill him.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Anyway, the caravan was on the way to get him out.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I wish I had somebody to understand that if God leave
you in it, it's only because acaravan is on the way to bring
you out.
Listen, check out this statistic, though it says here, studies
show that individuals withstrong spiritual beliefs because

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we're talking about trusting inGod and leaning not to your own
understanding, but leaning intoGod's understanding.
We're talking about intimacyand faith with him, walking with
him.
Look at what it says.
It says with strong spiritualbeliefs often have higher
resilience in facing lifechallenges.
Amen, oh my God.
This is a study that shows thatwhen you have strong spiritual

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beliefs, when you start goingthrough something, you're more
resilient.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Resilience can be explained as bounce back.
You got.
You got restoration working inyour life when you practice
healthy, strong spiritualbeliefs.
Amen.
In a time when life don't makesense, you better tap into your.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Holy Ghost.
You have to.
And then you also have to shutdown naysayers.
You have to shut down peoplewho are going to bring the
pessimism, the negativity, Allof those things.
We have to learn how to be okaywith shutting those people out.
I like that.
It doesn't have to be forever.

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That's what I said, though.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Before season, while you're trying to maintain your
spiritual strength.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
I think that's important.
My God.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Because we don't always have to answer the phone
and we don't always have torespond to a thing.
I'm just going to say theobvious Help them Right, answer
the phone.
And we don't always have torespond to a thing.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I'm just gonna say the obvious right, we don't
always have to leave the theringer on on the phone, and we
don't always have to feel likewe have to respond right now.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
oh my god, sometimes we, we are wired to do that like
I feel, like if I don't sayanything or if I don't, if, if I
don't, if I don't know, just beat peace, be at peace.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Be at peace.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Two final passages of scripture we're going to, we're
going to end our session ontoday, as we've been talking
about identifying the hand ofGod and suffering and being
resilient and not lettingsuffering define you.
I'm reminded of Romans 8 and 28.
Suffering to find you I'mreminded of Romans 8 and 28.
And it says, and we all knowthat in all things, god is

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working good On behalf of thosewho love him and who are the
called according to his purpose.
And I want every child of Godto know you are the called, you
are the chosen, you are the setaside, you are the royal
priesthood.
I'm in the Bible.

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You are the chosen generationin every generation.
You are the chosen generationto change the nation and you are
chosen to go through sufferingand prevail, to show the nations
that you can trust on God insuffering and come out on top.
Finally, as we talk about this,I want us to remember Jeremiah

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29 and 11.
Would you like to read Jeremiah29 and 11?
Jeremiah 29 and 11.
And you and I have shared thiswhole backdrop.
We quote Jeremiah 29 and 11 alot, but what I think sometimes
we forget about is this was aword given to the captives over

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in Babylon by the prophetJeremiah.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Come on, I'm just going to say for me, that's what
makes this word so powerful, sopowerful.
Because you know it again sendsthat message that God hadn't
forgot about.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
God hadn't forgot.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
It's nothing like receiving a word from the Lord
when you are at your lowestpoint, yes, when you are in a
situation with your back upagainst the wall, when it looks
like that the enemy is winning,when it looks like you have
gotten to the end of your road.
It is nothing like God givingyou a word, because their word
creates hope Hallelujah and thenreactivates the faith that your

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circumstances could havesnatched up out of you
Hallelujah.
So one of the most powerfulthings that I love about
Jeremiah 29 and 11 is thecontext of it where they were
when God gave them this word.
That is so powerful because tome, that speaks to love, that

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speaks to the scripture thattalks about he'll never leave
nor forsake.
It speaks so many things and wesee the nature of God
wonderfully in that scripture,because, though I am in this
situation and I don't want to beand I don't like it, god is
still blessing, he's sending mehope and I believe it's also I

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think I know it's in jeremiah,I'm not sure if it's in 29, but
he talks about them um buildinghomes.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
That's exactly where I was going creating

Speaker 2 (59:11):
vineyards and doing so and that's so powerful,
because just because you're inthis situation doesn't mean that
who god made you to be won'twork.
And we we even see that inJoseph's life who he has
anointed us to be Because theanointing, the anointing is
going to work, no matter wherewe are.
The anointing is going to dowhat the anointing does.

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But again, going back to whenwe talked about but you have to
participate.
You got to come out ofautopilot and you got to do your
part.
Ah, glory to God To seemanifestation One.
Life is not making sense and wehave to make sure that we're
doing our part.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Okay, and that God is a pursuer and he pursues us
even over into our suffering.
That is good, and so themessage Jeremiah was giving to
this enslaved, captive group ofpeople who consisted of the
priests, the prophets and therest of the people.

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He said to them build yourhouses while you're over there,
plant vineyards while you'reover there, live, have children,
marry over there, live, havechildren, marry, he said,
because I know the plans I havefor you.
That is good and not evil, togive you a future and an
expected end.
And he told me.
He said I'm coming back for theremnant and to return you back

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to Jerusalem.
In other words, don't let yoursuffering come on somebody
stifle your living.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's it, you know, I heard Because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I'm coming to get you .

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I heard Pastor John Hannah repetitively say this my
man John Hannah.
What do you do when you wait?
You prepare.
And I thought because I thoughthe was going to say serve, but
he said you prepare.
And I was like, oh, but he saidyou prepare.

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And I was like, oh, my God,that is so profound you prepare.
Because, a lot of times, whenwe're waiting, we don't want to
do anything and we forget.
This is preparation for next,so it's necessary to prepare now
.
So, when God brings you out,you're ready, you're ready, oh,
my goodness, you're ready.
And so they're building housesand grand vineyards, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
serious.
Why make captivity?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
God is like yes, I'm serious.
Wow, what if we took that wordHallelujah and applied it?
You know you understand get ridof all the stifled living.
Come on, you know sometimes wefind ourselves in, it'll get us
out of that, you know.

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It'll bring us up out of thatsad place, the depressed place.
Start doing something towardscoming out.
Do something towards what Godhas anointed you, called you to
do.
Do something towards you knowand not sitting just stagnant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Live your best life.
Tell them build some houseswhile you're over there in
slavery, plant some things, buysome property, get married, have
some kids.
Don't worry about it.
I'm coming to get all of youout.
Oh my God, I'm coming, I'mcoming for you, I'm coming.
I'm going to restore everything.
I love it.
Then you're going to have moreto bring back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Exactly.
You're going, I'm telling youthat's so good, that feels
prophetic, very prophetic.
I'm coming, I'm coming.
What if?
What if we could take that whenwe're facing this, you know
time when life isn't makingsense and we tag on to every day
.
He's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
He's coming.
Pastor, can you summarize toour listening audience and
viewing audience?
Can you summarize when lifedoesn't make sense, man, you
just give us a good paragraph ofhow to go forward.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
You have got to get planted in the word of God.
We started this thing offtalking about Proverbs three,
five and six trusting in theLord, leaning not to your own
understanding, and that is sokey and pivotal.

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When life does not make sense,you have to allow the word of
God, which is also Jesus Christ,to be your foundation and build
everything on that.
Because if he's not yourfoundation, when as life is
lifing, as we say, it can throwyou off and cause you to be in
this chaotic place.
But trust meaning depend, putall of your dependence I love

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that on God and he'll direct you, I love it All right, we pray
that you have been.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
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