July 16, 2025 • 33 mins
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Ever wonder what makes someone dedicate their entire life to teaching kids in a small Kentucky town? In this heartwarming continuation of my conversation with Mr. Howard Jones, we dive deeper into the life and wisdom of a man who shaped generations through four decades of teaching.
Coach Jones shares powerful stories that reveal his character-building approach to coaching basketball. When a player lost his uniform, Coach made him earn the money for a replacement by picking up trash around town. When his star player attempted to quit by tossing his uniform on the desk, Coach calmly explained: "When you quit, you're through." The player was back on the court before practice started. These weren't just sports lessons—they were life lessons that prepared young people for the challenges ahead.
The conversation takes us through Coach's resourceful approach to running school sports with zero budget, organizing games with neighboring towns, and finding creative ways to provide opportunities for his students. We learn about his personal passions too—from his meticulously maintained John Deere tractor to his lifelong love of gardening, which continues today with a carefully curated selection of vegetables he particularly enjoys.
Perhaps most striking is Coach Jones' extraordinary dedication. When asked if he ever took vacations, he simply replies: "Never took a vacation. I just always felt that when I came back I'd be so far behind I could never catch up." His self-reliance extended to learning how to fix almost anything by watching others do it once—a fading ethic in our modern world of specialists and service calls.
His closing advice captures the essence of a well-lived life: get as much education as possible, take care of your body, and be someone your children can be proud of. Join us for this moving conversation that celebrates not just a beloved coach, but the values that built small-town America.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Dan the Road Trip Guy.
I'm your host, dan, and eachweek we'll embark on a new
adventure, discovering memoriesand life lessons of our
incredible guests, from everydaytravelers to thrill seekers and
everyone in between.
This podcast is your front rowseat to inspiring stories of
passion, resilience and thepursuit of happiness.
So buckle up and enjoy the ride.
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Today's episode is acontinuation of episode 78.
And if you missed that one, Ihope you'll go back and listen
to part one of my conversationwith Mr Howard Jones.
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Now, to most of us who grew upin a small Kentucky town of Pine
Knot, we called him Coach Jonesor Mr Jones.
He was a teacher for fourdecades in the McQuarrie County
school system.
He was also my first basketballcoach and one of my heroes.
Today we'll continue ourconversation.
We'll talk a little bit moreabout basketball, his hometown
first job, cars and I left infrom part one Coach's advice on
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how to live a good life.
I hope you enjoy the show,coach.
Welcome back to the show.
I'm excited to continue ourconversation.
Talk a little bit more aboutyour life.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Of course, when you started our basketball back when
we were in the second thirdgrade, you made sure we had
uniforms, and I remember thoseuniforms.
I don't remember the exactcolor of the first ones, but I
do remember us getting somepurple and white uniforms.
Of course, the Pine Island HighSchool colors were blue and
gold and I think when we were inthe sixth grade you outfitted
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us with some really sharpuniforms that mimicked those
uniforms with blue and gold.
I just thought we'd take a fewminutes and talk about
basketball uniforms.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The only teams that we had.
One of them been blue and white, but I think the supplier may
have been out or made a mistakeor something, so we had to get
going.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So I accepted those there and the purple didn't mean
anything or the black didn'tmean anything I remember when we
were, uh, yeah, as we got alittle bit older, we wore, uh,
purple and white.
Yeah, yeah, you, as we got alittle bit older, we wore purple
and white.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah, you remember when you got a?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
little bit older.
Yeah, when I was we got alittle bit older me and Robert,
I remember I have a picture ofus and we're wearing purple and
white uniforms, these real shinypurple purple trunks, and I was
always like, as I got older,got older, I was like I wonder
why our uniforms were purpleokay, now Betty has a picture in
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our living room, a heater.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's a heater there and then you build a fireplace
in a fireplace and it has alittle snapshot of Robert, but
it's that same one probably, andit's been there for years.
We gave out their uniforms.
Everybody had a uniform,everybody took it home.
There's always to say you hadto have a uniform before you
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could practice or play.
This might have been just a yearor two past second third grade,
but anyhow, a player came andlost his trunks.
Well, it all took me.
I said well, you know the road,you have to pay for the uniform
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and then I'll have to order itand you can't practice or play
until then.
It just about broke my heartwith that kid as I went to
school in the morning he was outin the rain and the snow
picking up the cups and thingsat that little Dipsy Doodle and
he'd come to school and he'dbring me a quarter and those
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things were about $2.50 I think,or something like that.
But I held him to that and Idon't know how he feels about
that today, but I feel like thatwas really a lesson for him and
that was little Roger Metis.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Roger Dodger, yep.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Dodger right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, well, you know, that's what builds character.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think Maybe we need a little more of that today
well now one other story I won'ttell you, and I meant to get to
it before.
This is as I had made.
I didn't make a whole lot ofrules, but the rules that I made
, do you know?
There, that's the rule.
We had played our first game,my first year at the high school
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coaching level, in 1955 fall,and the best prospect and the
best player that I had came upto my office and I had given out
.
All we had was one uniform andthey were gold, and they carried
them in a paper bag to play on.
Well, he came in the door andpitched it on my desk and I
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looked up and I said whoa,what's going on?
He said, coach, I just want tocome by and give you this
uniform.
He said I quit.
And he was a junior.
Yeah.
And a big, strong boy.
And you know what did I do?
Swallowed my tongue, I guess.
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But anyhow, at the end heturned to leave and I said well,
now wait just a minute beforeyou leave.
I said I want to have just alittle bit of a discussion.
So I told him.
I said I want to have just alittle bit of a discussion.
So I told him.
I said I'm a new coach thisyear.
I have not made a list of rulesand so forth, but one of my
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rules is is when you quit,you're through.
As long as I'm coach, you'renot allowed to come back for the
team or the next year's team.
You're through.
And he looked at me so as tosay it.
He said the boys won't throw methe ball.
Well, I said that's not for youto decide, that's for me to
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decide and we'll take care ofthat down the road.
So as to say, but I wanted tobe sure that you understood that
when you quit, you quit.
And I said now I was changingshoes.
I said when I get these shoeschanged and get down on the
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floor.
If you're not on the floor withthe rest of the kids, you
report to the study hall and youare through.
When I came downstairs, he waspracticing.
Changed his mind right Luck, andI meant that too.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yep, hey, here's one for you that I remember when we
were—we might have been inelementary school, but we were
wearing the blue and golduniforms by then.
You would take us out of classin the afternoon sometimes, not
often and we would travel.
We'd get in cars and we wouldtravel to places like Capitol
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Hill, tennessee and Winfield andplaces Williamsburg, and I just
always remember you not onlyplaying the local teams, but we
would go places.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I remember very well doing those things.
The root of that was we didn'thave any money.
Money was a problem.
When I took the job as highschool coach, the principal was
Mrs Harmon, and she was great.
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She was a great principal, butshe was not an athletic
principal.
She did not understand all ofathletics, she was more into
music and this sort of thing.
But anyhow though, she told me.
She said you have zero account.
She said you're responsible forthat account, and if it's in
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the red, I said I'll take it outof your salary.
You've got to make it come outof the black.
Well, people was coming to thegames.
Where was I going to get money?
Well, we survived somehow oranother.
And at the elementary schoolthen, he didn't have any
appropriation.
So we raised our money and youprobably remember the boys
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carrying Coca-Cola over to thegirls, selling concessions there
, so as to say, and that waswhat we did.
Well, some of these schools,you know, they started asking
where are you getting anyuniforms?
You know they didn't have whatwe did.
Well, some of these schools,you know, they started asking
around where are you gettingevery uniform?
You know they didn't have whatwe had, and there was
basketballs and this and that,and I just told them we raised
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the money.
So a lot of it came as thosecoaches wanted us to come and
play a game in front of theirschool and their principal would
allow their kids to pass allabout and come to the games.
That was the root of the wholething.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You mentioned Winfield.
I remember the two things Iremember very well.
You scored 24 points atWinfield.
I remember that very well.
And you was not a scorer, youwas a defensive whiz.
You usually got the best playeron the guard that was halfway
your size.
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Well, the time zone was thestate line.
Right that afternoon we wereall set to go.
We were still in play and I gota telephone call and and it was
Coach Delner and he said areyou coming?
He said my kids are in the gym.
He said we've been warming up Idon't know how long.
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So I was just saying you didn'tshow and I said it's not time
yet.
He said it is time and we haddifferent time zones of an hour.
See.
I gathered up six boys and toWinfield we went in my car and
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you all dressed your uniformswhile we were going to Winfield,
helping each other dress and soforth.
Yeah in the car.
Did you remember doing?
That In the car.
Can you remember doing that Inthe car?
Yes, yeah.
So we came in and ran a few lapsand dribbled in the balls and
said, let's play ball.
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And so, to answer your question, I was probably helping them
raise some money or maybereturning to where they'd ever
done, and we'd get to play oneor two games a year.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, that was fun.
That was a lot of fun for us.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, what I tried to do, and kids that young, I
thought we've got to make themenjoy it.
We've got to have a good timedoing this or they won't be
interested in it, and so thatwas one of my objectives.
And as far as rules, I neverdid do a sheet of rules and say
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here are the rules for you all.
I remember that I had a parentthat waited until after practice
for me at the front doors overthere and you all had dressed
and left.
It was a lady.
It was a lady and she saysCoach, I'd like to see a list of
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your rooms.
I said what's the problem here?
I said what's going on?
She said they're waiting on myboy down here on this fire dock
and they're whipping up on himevery day.
Well, that was completely offthe school grounds and
everything.
And I said Well, it's sort ofyour responsibility when he
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leaves the school ground hereand I can't go home with 20 boys
.
Right.
And she said you don't have alist of rules.
I said I have one ruleEverybody acts like a child.
And really with all the effortthat I was putting in, that
really hit me hard, with all theeffort that I was putting in
that really hit me hard.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Hey, you mentioned early on growing up your parents
had a garden and you had agarden and your garden got
bigger and bigger, I think everyyear.
Did you enjoy gardening and doyou still garden?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yes, I did very, very much and I didn't do a lot of
gardening at home.
One thing that I'd have missedand I guess that I'm talking is
when I was in the fifth or sixthgrade I started working for the
grocery man that was in ourneighborhood.
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Grocery man that was in ourneighborhood and it was an
operation similar to what yourUncle Earl had over there,
except that he didn't have thestraw and the fertilizer and all
that stuff, he just had thecanned stuff.
So I started working for himand worked for him for several
years.
I'd worked for him for severalyears, but what helped me so
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much is he didn't.
He wasn't getting very muchahead in the groceries.
He eliminated the groceries andwent into hardware, and the
same thing happened and he wentinto used furniture and then
into antiques.
Well, I stayed with him allthose times.
He was a teacher in the schoolsystem there and his wife ran
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the businesses.
He was really an intelligentperson and he sort of took me
under his wing in an awful lotof things and advised me on this
and that and so on and so forth, and I made a little money
which the other kids didn't haveat that time.
So I was to say I probably madeand this is only a guess 25 or
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30 cents an hour, working twohours of the evening and working
on Saturday.
And as it came to antiques, Isort of learned the value of
antiques and what was antiquesand you also learned the value
of antiques and what had, whatwas antiques and what was it,
and learned how to uh strippaint from and varnish from
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furniture and, as a matter offact, the owner and I learned
that together.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
He didn't know either yeah, so are you still, uh, are
you still gardening today?
Uh, yes, I am yeah on a verysmall scale yeah now, when betty
and I retired in 1995 not to beconfused with almost 30 years
ago.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Coach yeah, it is, it's about 28 or a little more.
Yeah, she said.
Cotton said let's still not doall this raising food that we've
been doing.
She had been pretty muchpreserving the food all those
years and while I was, you know,bringing it in the door,
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throwing it in the house I guessit was to say so I said to her.
I said that'll be fine, You'vedone well.
I said I'm going to cut thegarden back, but I'm going to
raise the things that I like nowand that's all I'm going to do.
So I ended up raising sweetpepper, cucumbers, tomatoes and
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watermelons, and she lovessquash and I raise squash.
Those things are the stuff I'veraised for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, now one question on the garden.
I think you had the first JohnDeere call it lawnmower slash
tractor I ever saw in my life.
Do you still have a John Deeretoday?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I still have that, John Deere what happened on,
that is, I have bought asnowblade, I bought a tiller and
then I bought the uh mower forthe the yard.
Well, I wore it out yeah sureanyway, it had cast iron parts
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in there where we could rebuildit.
And a guy retired at John Deereand it happened that he came up
to work on another lawnmowerand he saw it and he wanted to
know what I was going to do withit.
He wanted to buy it and so Isaid, no, I'm going to keep it.
And he said, well, let merebuild it for you.
And he had done their work downthere for 25 years industrial
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something in O'Neill and herebuilt it and it's perfect if
it's not rusted up or something.
It's in my garage and I boughtother John Deere's.
As a matter of fact, I have oneI bought it in about 92 now
that I use and I also haveanother one I mow.
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I mow probably an acre andthree-fourths would be real
close to what I mow here.
I enjoy mowing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, that's good, hang on to that, and you can
pass it on to grandkids.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And I noticed, sir, in your notes that you had
mentioned Battle Ball.
I don't think the statespecifies what you play so as to
say they're interested inphysical fitness and this sort
of thing.
Yeah.
And in the physical educationclasses.
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This was my approach.
And you might laugh, I don'tknow.
On the first day of the class Ialways, you know, in my speech
I always told them I said we'regoing to do calisthenics and
we're going to do a few lapsaround the gym and then we're
going to have some fun, we'regoing to play a game.
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I said on the calisthenics Isaid if somebody's messing up
and not doing it, I'll just saydo it over.
Well, when I say do it over,the kids would take care of that
.
They would let the other personknow hey, hey, you get with it
now.
You know, I had real goodsuccess with that and I had.
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We did some.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I'm over too yep, we did and uh, yeah, I just uh, I
remember battle ball and I waslike they probably don't play
that today.
It probably would seem like adangerous game today, but boy,
that was a fun game.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, and it's according to what kind of ball
that you use.
I know that I had some youngerclass of girls at PE and I used
what I think was called nerveballs.
They were a little wide balland if they hit you you know, it
didn't bother you yeah.
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But now the older boys throwingthese inflated like an inner
tube rubber balls that couldburn a blister, I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, yeah, that could sting if you got hit.
I never liked the trampoline.
You'd pull out the trampoline.
I just never was fond ofjumping on the trampoline.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I never had any training in trampolines, so as
to say, and I just looked atfilms and you know I had manuals
and so forth.
A lot of the kids did like it.
Some of them didn't.
The thing about the trampolineis some of them would want to do
things before they were readyto do them.
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Right.
I remember Charles Woods was inon, I don't know, some type of
break or something fromTennessee Tech.
He came in the door and hehadn't seen the trampoline.
I don't think before.
He hadn't seen ours I don't knowif he'd ever seen one or not
and this was an after-hoursthing that we had people jumping
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and you know, they were jumpinginto their seat and knees and
whatever.
And Charles came over there andhe said would you let me jump?
Came over and there and he saidwould you let me jump?
And I questioned him and hesort of made me believe that he
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had a little experience on itand I said well, if you'll just
get up there and jump up anddown, we'll try it.
Well, he got up there andbefore I knew it he turned a
somersault.
There was a girl that wasspotting at the end of the
trampoline.
She saw him coming and she wentunder the trampoline and he
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landed on the mat there like acat on all fours.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You mentioned Mrs Jones Betty.
How did you all meet?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Betty was a teacher here in the county when I came.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Okay, did you play sports growing up?
Then Did you play basketball.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I tried to, so as to say I was not a real good player
, so as to say.
But at the same time thisbrings up another story At the
same time I had speed.
I was quicker and faster thanmost of the kids he had, and the
coach that we had wasinterested in football.
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We had real, real good football.
We were in the CumberlandValley Conference and that was
from the Harlan County, bellCounty, knox County, whitley
County, those counties up downthat river, and I remember my
senior year.
They divided the schools intothe big schools and the little
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schools.
Most of the time you just tookyour chances.
You know, you're just a member,you're part of it.
Well, we went undefeated infootball and we were in the.
A division and we had a playoffwith the big schools that was in
the B division and we had aplayoff with the big schools
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that was in the B Division.
So we had that playoff atPineville on Thanksgiving Day
and I never will forget.
It snowed that night.
It snowed through the windowsof a lot of our players.
It was nice.
But what I wanted to tell youthough, my senior year we beat
Corbin.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And Corbin was the big dog.
Always over there we beatCorbin by two touchdowns.
That Corbin.
Now our coach had a rule thatif you didn't play football you
can't play basketball.
So I was small when I graduated.
I weighed about 110 pounds.
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I got killed out on thatfootball field and the coach
lived about 400 or 500 yardsfrom where I lived.
I knew him as a neighborhoodman and he was looking for a
manager.
The manager had graduated ayear before and I went to him
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and told him I said, if you'lllet me try for basketball, I'll
make you the best manager you'veever had.
So I was football manager therea long time and the football
manager had it all to do too.
We had two or three helpers,but I'm talking about the head
man.
We had to line the field.
If the Friday game was at home,we had to put down the lines,
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and they were put down by handwith live.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And then we had a whole warship machine with a
rigger on it and we kept thepractice stuff and the jerseys
clean.
We had a lot of work that wehad to do.
We had to stay after school alot of times to complete that.
So I competed, you know, inpractice, so as to say, and in
situations he might feel sorryfor me and put me in a little
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bit, so as to say, but I didn'tplay a whole lot, but I enjoyed
it just about as much as if Iwas the star of the team.
Yeah, and I learned quite a bit.
Well, when I went to coveland mybrother was two years behind me
and and they didn't figure theycould send both of us to school
.
So I was gonna go two, go twoyears, and if you took the
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elementary courses you could geta teacher's certificate after
two years.
I did that at Cumberland andgot that certificate.
Well, he went to Cumberland andhe didn't like it.
He decided he was just going togive him a job at General
Electric in Louisville, which hedid, and so I went on to
Eastern then at that time and Ihad coached their basketball
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under Paul McBrayer.
Paul McBrayer was an assistantcoach at UK.
When the war started.
They took him in because he wasan officer in the service and
Rob Harden, harry L langsterthen as an assistant coach.
Well, when he, when he cameback by grayer then rubble to
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keep the one, keep, uh, langster.
So he went to eastern and gotthat job and so I had coaching a
basketball under him and he wastremendous, he.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He tried to teach us how to coach the game instead of
just blow food you're a greatteacher and well, there's a
story that just popped in mymind and I have no idea if
you'll remember it.
We were in high school I thinkI was probably a junior.
It was our last year at pineknot and if you remember that
gymnasium, there wasn't muchspace between the line and the
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wall and the wall was prettyhard and I hit my head on the
wall once and I was bleedingquite a bit.
You knew my mother wouldprobably freak out if I went
home.
I remember I had a white shirton and there's blood all over it
and you checked me out and youdetermined I was okay.
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But you took me home and youstood in front of me while you
told my mother that I was finebut I had cracked my head on the
wall.
But I think that's just who youwere.
You were, you took really.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
you not only coached us and taught us, but you took
care of us well a story I wantto tell you that I do remember
happened and and it was inmiddle school, after we became a
middle school, we were on thesoftball field and we were
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changing sides.
You know, three outs changesides.
Well, I was standing somewherebetween the home plate and first
base on that line there, andthey were changing sides.
And we were changing sides.
Well, a few of the kids hadgloves and I had three or four
old gloves and we were gettingabout ready to let the next
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batter back and someone in thefield decided that the catcher
needed a glove.
Well, the batter had alreadytaken his place at the batter's
box and he was taking his airswings.
I'll call them, you know he'sswinging that.
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And this catcher and he steppedinto that bat and that bat hit
him right on the top of the headand knocked him down.
I mean it put him on the groundthat guy was hitting the home
runs and I ran over there realquickly.
The only thing I had was myhands and my handkerchief.
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When I looked at his head, Isaw his skull.
It just laid the skin back.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I put that handkerchief on there and held
it and sent someone to get theprincipal to call an ambulance
and everything worked out fine.
He was fine.
They took him away, but youknow, but that was fine, that
stopped all the bleeding andeverything.
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That was among the worstinjuries that I had in PE.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Hey, what was your first car you ever owned?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The first car I ever owned was a 1951 Plymouth that
the guy that I worked for wentnorth on a buying trip.
And he said, we'll just findyou a car up there in cincinnati
.
And we bought it and I kept itabout a year and traded it and
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got a 1956 forward and gotdrafted into service and I
didn't make enough money withservice to make the payment.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So I had to sell it now.
Now, growing up, you seemed tobe a Ford guy, best I remember.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, most of my cars were Fords.
I had an LTD.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I had a 67 Chevrolet that I bought from Alfred Kidd
over there.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But not necessarily.
It just happened to work outthat way.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I don't remember that one.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I didn't keep it very long, I don't remember why, or
maybe a year or so forth.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Hey, here's a question for you, and I've just
enjoyed our conversation.
Here's a question for you.
You might have to think aboutthis one for a minute, and I
love to ask people this If youcould jump in the car with
somebody living or deceased, whodo you think that'd be?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You know, I saw that with the list of things that we
might talk about or something.
Really, I don't have an answerfor that.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I don't have and I was taught and it had to be this
way, okay.
Yeah, I was going to ask you ifyou'd ever been on vacation.
(30:37):
Never took a vacation, Nevertook a vacation.
I just always felt that when Icame back that I was so far
behind that I could never catchup.
You know, with the garden andthe yard and so on and so forth.
Yeah, and I was a person thatdid my own work, and I was a
person that did my own work mydad.
(31:01):
He was so busy he didn't taketime enough to teach me how to
do many things.
In other words, what I learned,I learned by watching.
Now I got my own house.
If I had a problem and I had tocall somebody, I watched them.
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If the problem reoccurred later, I tried to fix it, whether I
did or could do it or not rightthat's the way I've always been
today we seem to just calleverybody, call somebody for
everything.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Uh, hey, well, this has been fun, coach, I could
talk to you.
I could talk to you probablyall night.
You've been around a bit.
Is there anything you wouldtell people on how to live a
good life?
Besides, don't take a vacation.
What would you tell some youngperson?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, not taking a vacation might be all right if
you handle it mentally, and itdidn't bother me mentally at all
.
Well, if I was talking to ayounger person, I'd certainly
tell them to when you're goingto school, get as much out of it
as you can, get as mucheducation as you can, so as to
say and be sure that you takecare of your body.
That would be the big thingsthat I would say, and certainly
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I would want you to be a personthat your children were proud of
.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I know your kids are proud of you, and probably
everybody that had you in schoolhas great memories of their
time with you.
Well, thank you, coach, thishas been fun.
It's a real fun with me, so asto say Okay, Well you have a
good one, you as well, and I'lltalk to you again.
Bye-bye.
(32:50):
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Today's episode is acontinuation of episode 78.
And if you missed that one, Ihope you'll go back and listen
to part one of my conversationwith Mr Howard Jones.
(00:45):
Now, to most of us who grew upin a small Kentucky town of Pine
Knot, we called him Coach Jonesor Mr Jones.
He was a teacher for fourdecades in the McQuarrie County
school system.
He was also my first basketballcoach and one of my heroes.
Today we'll continue ourconversation.
We'll talk a little bit moreabout basketball, his hometown
first job, cars and I left infrom part one Coach's advice on
(01:07):
how to live a good life.
I hope you enjoy the show,coach.
Welcome back to the show.
I'm excited to continue ourconversation.
Talk a little bit more aboutyour life.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Of course, when you started our basketball back when
we were in the second thirdgrade, you made sure we had
uniforms, and I remember thoseuniforms.
I don't remember the exactcolor of the first ones, but I
do remember us getting somepurple and white uniforms.
Of course, the Pine Island HighSchool colors were blue and
gold and I think when we were inthe sixth grade you outfitted
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us with some really sharpuniforms that mimicked those
uniforms with blue and gold.
I just thought we'd take a fewminutes and talk about
basketball uniforms.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The only teams that we had.
One of them been blue and white, but I think the supplier may
have been out or made a mistakeor something, so we had to get
going.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So I accepted those there and the purple didn't mean
anything or the black didn'tmean anything I remember when we
were, uh, yeah, as we got alittle bit older, we wore, uh,
purple and white.
Yeah, yeah, you, as we got alittle bit older, we wore purple
and white.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah, you remember when you got a?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
little bit older.
Yeah, when I was we got alittle bit older me and Robert,
I remember I have a picture ofus and we're wearing purple and
white uniforms, these real shinypurple purple trunks, and I was
always like, as I got older,got older, I was like I wonder
why our uniforms were purpleokay, now Betty has a picture in
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our living room, a heater.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's a heater there and then you build a fireplace
in a fireplace and it has alittle snapshot of Robert, but
it's that same one probably, andit's been there for years.
We gave out their uniforms.
Everybody had a uniform,everybody took it home.
There's always to say you hadto have a uniform before you
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could practice or play.
This might have been just a yearor two past second third grade,
but anyhow, a player came andlost his trunks.
Well, it all took me.
I said well, you know the road,you have to pay for the uniform
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and then I'll have to order itand you can't practice or play
until then.
It just about broke my heartwith that kid as I went to
school in the morning he was outin the rain and the snow
picking up the cups and thingsat that little Dipsy Doodle and
he'd come to school and he'dbring me a quarter and those
(04:00):
things were about $2.50 I think,or something like that.
But I held him to that and Idon't know how he feels about
that today, but I feel like thatwas really a lesson for him and
that was little Roger Metis.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Roger Dodger, yep.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Dodger right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, well, you know, that's what builds character.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think Maybe we need a little more of that today
well now one other story I won'ttell you, and I meant to get to
it before.
This is as I had made.
I didn't make a whole lot ofrules, but the rules that I made
, do you know?
There, that's the rule.
We had played our first game,my first year at the high school
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coaching level, in 1955 fall,and the best prospect and the
best player that I had came upto my office and I had given out
.
All we had was one uniform andthey were gold, and they carried
them in a paper bag to play on.
Well, he came in the door andpitched it on my desk and I
(05:13):
looked up and I said whoa,what's going on?
He said, coach, I just want tocome by and give you this
uniform.
He said I quit.
And he was a junior.
Yeah.
And a big, strong boy.
And you know what did I do?
Swallowed my tongue, I guess.
(05:34):
But anyhow, at the end heturned to leave and I said well,
now wait just a minute beforeyou leave.
I said I want to have just alittle bit of a discussion.
So I told him.
I said I want to have just alittle bit of a discussion.
So I told him.
I said I'm a new coach thisyear.
I have not made a list of rulesand so forth, but one of my
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rules is is when you quit,you're through.
As long as I'm coach, you'renot allowed to come back for the
team or the next year's team.
You're through.
And he looked at me so as tosay it.
He said the boys won't throw methe ball.
Well, I said that's not for youto decide, that's for me to
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decide and we'll take care ofthat down the road.
So as to say, but I wanted tobe sure that you understood that
when you quit, you quit.
And I said now I was changingshoes.
I said when I get these shoeschanged and get down on the
(06:37):
floor.
If you're not on the floor withthe rest of the kids, you
report to the study hall and youare through.
When I came downstairs, he waspracticing.
Changed his mind right Luck, andI meant that too.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yep, hey, here's one for you that I remember when we
were—we might have been inelementary school, but we were
wearing the blue and golduniforms by then.
You would take us out of classin the afternoon sometimes, not
often and we would travel.
We'd get in cars and we wouldtravel to places like Capitol
(07:15):
Hill, tennessee and Winfield andplaces Williamsburg, and I just
always remember you not onlyplaying the local teams, but we
would go places.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I remember very well doing those things.
The root of that was we didn'thave any money.
Money was a problem.
When I took the job as highschool coach, the principal was
Mrs Harmon, and she was great.
(07:47):
She was a great principal, butshe was not an athletic
principal.
She did not understand all ofathletics, she was more into
music and this sort of thing.
But anyhow though, she told me.
She said you have zero account.
She said you're responsible forthat account, and if it's in
(08:09):
the red, I said I'll take it outof your salary.
You've got to make it come outof the black.
Well, people was coming to thegames.
Where was I going to get money?
Well, we survived somehow oranother.
And at the elementary schoolthen, he didn't have any
appropriation.
So we raised our money and youprobably remember the boys
(08:31):
carrying Coca-Cola over to thegirls, selling concessions there
, so as to say, and that waswhat we did.
Well, some of these schools,you know, they started asking
where are you getting anyuniforms?
You know they didn't have whatwe did.
Well, some of these schools,you know, they started asking
around where are you gettingevery uniform?
You know they didn't have whatwe had, and there was
basketballs and this and that,and I just told them we raised
(08:55):
the money.
So a lot of it came as thosecoaches wanted us to come and
play a game in front of theirschool and their principal would
allow their kids to pass allabout and come to the games.
That was the root of the wholething.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You mentioned Winfield.
I remember the two things Iremember very well.
You scored 24 points atWinfield.
I remember that very well.
And you was not a scorer, youwas a defensive whiz.
You usually got the best playeron the guard that was halfway
your size.
(09:32):
Well, the time zone was thestate line.
Right that afternoon we wereall set to go.
We were still in play and I gota telephone call and and it was
Coach Delner and he said areyou coming?
He said my kids are in the gym.
He said we've been warming up Idon't know how long.
(09:53):
So I was just saying you didn'tshow and I said it's not time
yet.
He said it is time and we haddifferent time zones of an hour.
See.
I gathered up six boys and toWinfield we went in my car and
(10:13):
you all dressed your uniformswhile we were going to Winfield,
helping each other dress and soforth.
Yeah in the car.
Did you remember doing?
That In the car.
Can you remember doing that Inthe car?
Yes, yeah.
So we came in and ran a few lapsand dribbled in the balls and
said, let's play ball.
(10:34):
And so, to answer your question, I was probably helping them
raise some money or maybereturning to where they'd ever
done, and we'd get to play oneor two games a year.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, that was fun.
That was a lot of fun for us.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, what I tried to do, and kids that young, I
thought we've got to make themenjoy it.
We've got to have a good timedoing this or they won't be
interested in it, and so thatwas one of my objectives.
And as far as rules, I neverdid do a sheet of rules and say
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here are the rules for you all.
I remember that I had a parentthat waited until after practice
for me at the front doors overthere and you all had dressed
and left.
It was a lady.
It was a lady and she saysCoach, I'd like to see a list of
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your rooms.
I said what's the problem here?
I said what's going on?
She said they're waiting on myboy down here on this fire dock
and they're whipping up on himevery day.
Well, that was completely offthe school grounds and
everything.
And I said Well, it's sort ofyour responsibility when he
(12:02):
leaves the school ground hereand I can't go home with 20 boys
.
Right.
And she said you don't have alist of rules.
I said I have one ruleEverybody acts like a child.
And really with all the effortthat I was putting in, that
really hit me hard, with all theeffort that I was putting in
that really hit me hard.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Hey, you mentioned early on growing up your parents
had a garden and you had agarden and your garden got
bigger and bigger, I think everyyear.
Did you enjoy gardening and doyou still garden?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yes, I did very, very much and I didn't do a lot of
gardening at home.
One thing that I'd have missedand I guess that I'm talking is
when I was in the fifth or sixthgrade I started working for the
grocery man that was in ourneighborhood.
(12:59):
Grocery man that was in ourneighborhood and it was an
operation similar to what yourUncle Earl had over there,
except that he didn't have thestraw and the fertilizer and all
that stuff, he just had thecanned stuff.
So I started working for himand worked for him for several
years.
I'd worked for him for severalyears, but what helped me so
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much is he didn't.
He wasn't getting very muchahead in the groceries.
He eliminated the groceries andwent into hardware, and the
same thing happened and he wentinto used furniture and then
into antiques.
Well, I stayed with him allthose times.
He was a teacher in the schoolsystem there and his wife ran
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the businesses.
He was really an intelligentperson and he sort of took me
under his wing in an awful lotof things and advised me on this
and that and so on and so forth, and I made a little money
which the other kids didn't haveat that time.
So I was to say I probably madeand this is only a guess 25 or
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30 cents an hour, working twohours of the evening and working
on Saturday.
And as it came to antiques, Isort of learned the value of
antiques and what was antiquesand you also learned the value
of antiques and what had, whatwas antiques and what was it,
and learned how to uh strippaint from and varnish from
(14:29):
furniture and, as a matter offact, the owner and I learned
that together.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
He didn't know either yeah, so are you still, uh, are
you still gardening today?
Uh, yes, I am yeah on a verysmall scale yeah now, when betty
and I retired in 1995 not to beconfused with almost 30 years
ago.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Coach yeah, it is, it's about 28 or a little more.
Yeah, she said.
Cotton said let's still not doall this raising food that we've
been doing.
She had been pretty muchpreserving the food all those
years and while I was, you know,bringing it in the door,
(15:15):
throwing it in the house I guessit was to say so I said to her.
I said that'll be fine, You'vedone well.
I said I'm going to cut thegarden back, but I'm going to
raise the things that I like nowand that's all I'm going to do.
So I ended up raising sweetpepper, cucumbers, tomatoes and
(15:37):
watermelons, and she lovessquash and I raise squash.
Those things are the stuff I'veraised for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, now one question on the garden.
I think you had the first JohnDeere call it lawnmower slash
tractor I ever saw in my life.
Do you still have a John Deeretoday?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I still have that, John Deere what happened on,
that is, I have bought asnowblade, I bought a tiller and
then I bought the uh mower forthe the yard.
Well, I wore it out yeah sureanyway, it had cast iron parts
(16:19):
in there where we could rebuildit.
And a guy retired at John Deereand it happened that he came up
to work on another lawnmowerand he saw it and he wanted to
know what I was going to do withit.
He wanted to buy it and so Isaid, no, I'm going to keep it.
And he said, well, let merebuild it for you.
And he had done their work downthere for 25 years industrial
(16:43):
something in O'Neill and herebuilt it and it's perfect if
it's not rusted up or something.
It's in my garage and I boughtother John Deere's.
As a matter of fact, I have oneI bought it in about 92 now
that I use and I also haveanother one I mow.
(17:06):
I mow probably an acre andthree-fourths would be real
close to what I mow here.
I enjoy mowing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, that's good, hang on to that, and you can
pass it on to grandkids.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And I noticed, sir, in your notes that you had
mentioned Battle Ball.
I don't think the statespecifies what you play so as to
say they're interested inphysical fitness and this sort
of thing.
Yeah.
And in the physical educationclasses.
(17:43):
This was my approach.
And you might laugh, I don'tknow.
On the first day of the class Ialways, you know, in my speech
I always told them I said we'regoing to do calisthenics and
we're going to do a few lapsaround the gym and then we're
going to have some fun, we'regoing to play a game.
(18:05):
I said on the calisthenics Isaid if somebody's messing up
and not doing it, I'll just saydo it over.
Well, when I say do it over,the kids would take care of that
.
They would let the other personknow hey, hey, you get with it
now.
You know, I had real goodsuccess with that and I had.
(18:28):
We did some.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I'm over too yep, we did and uh, yeah, I just uh, I
remember battle ball and I waslike they probably don't play
that today.
It probably would seem like adangerous game today, but boy,
that was a fun game.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, and it's according to what kind of ball
that you use.
I know that I had some youngerclass of girls at PE and I used
what I think was called nerveballs.
They were a little wide balland if they hit you you know, it
didn't bother you yeah.
(19:04):
But now the older boys throwingthese inflated like an inner
tube rubber balls that couldburn a blister, I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, yeah, that could sting if you got hit.
I never liked the trampoline.
You'd pull out the trampoline.
I just never was fond ofjumping on the trampoline.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I never had any training in trampolines, so as
to say, and I just looked atfilms and you know I had manuals
and so forth.
A lot of the kids did like it.
Some of them didn't.
The thing about the trampolineis some of them would want to do
things before they were readyto do them.
(19:45):
Right.
I remember Charles Woods was inon, I don't know, some type of
break or something fromTennessee Tech.
He came in the door and hehadn't seen the trampoline.
I don't think before.
He hadn't seen ours I don't knowif he'd ever seen one or not
and this was an after-hoursthing that we had people jumping
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and you know, they were jumpinginto their seat and knees and
whatever.
And Charles came over there andhe said would you let me jump?
Came over and there and he saidwould you let me jump?
And I questioned him and hesort of made me believe that he
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had a little experience on itand I said well, if you'll just
get up there and jump up anddown, we'll try it.
Well, he got up there andbefore I knew it he turned a
somersault.
There was a girl that wasspotting at the end of the
trampoline.
She saw him coming and she wentunder the trampoline and he
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landed on the mat there like acat on all fours.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You mentioned Mrs Jones Betty.
How did you all meet?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Betty was a teacher here in the county when I came.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Okay, did you play sports growing up?
Then Did you play basketball.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I tried to, so as to say I was not a real good player
, so as to say.
But at the same time thisbrings up another story At the
same time I had speed.
I was quicker and faster thanmost of the kids he had, and the
coach that we had wasinterested in football.
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We had real, real good football.
We were in the CumberlandValley Conference and that was
from the Harlan County, bellCounty, knox County, whitley
County, those counties up downthat river, and I remember my
senior year.
They divided the schools intothe big schools and the little
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schools.
Most of the time you just tookyour chances.
You know, you're just a member,you're part of it.
Well, we went undefeated infootball and we were in the.
A division and we had a playoffwith the big schools that was in
the B division and we had aplayoff with the big schools
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that was in the B Division.
So we had that playoff atPineville on Thanksgiving Day
and I never will forget.
It snowed that night.
It snowed through the windowsof a lot of our players.
It was nice.
But what I wanted to tell youthough, my senior year we beat
Corbin.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And Corbin was the big dog.
Always over there we beatCorbin by two touchdowns.
That Corbin.
Now our coach had a rule thatif you didn't play football you
can't play basketball.
So I was small when I graduated.
I weighed about 110 pounds.
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I got killed out on thatfootball field and the coach
lived about 400 or 500 yardsfrom where I lived.
I knew him as a neighborhoodman and he was looking for a
manager.
The manager had graduated ayear before and I went to him
(23:23):
and told him I said, if you'lllet me try for basketball, I'll
make you the best manager you'veever had.
So I was football manager therea long time and the football
manager had it all to do too.
We had two or three helpers,but I'm talking about the head
man.
We had to line the field.
If the Friday game was at home,we had to put down the lines,
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and they were put down by handwith live.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And then we had a whole warship machine with a
rigger on it and we kept thepractice stuff and the jerseys
clean.
We had a lot of work that wehad to do.
We had to stay after school alot of times to complete that.
So I competed, you know, inpractice, so as to say, and in
situations he might feel sorryfor me and put me in a little
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bit, so as to say, but I didn'tplay a whole lot, but I enjoyed
it just about as much as if Iwas the star of the team.
Yeah, and I learned quite a bit.
Well, when I went to coveland mybrother was two years behind me
and and they didn't figure theycould send both of us to school
.
So I was gonna go two, go twoyears, and if you took the
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elementary courses you could geta teacher's certificate after
two years.
I did that at Cumberland andgot that certificate.
Well, he went to Cumberland andhe didn't like it.
He decided he was just going togive him a job at General
Electric in Louisville, which hedid, and so I went on to
Eastern then at that time and Ihad coached their basketball
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under Paul McBrayer.
Paul McBrayer was an assistantcoach at UK.
When the war started.
They took him in because he wasan officer in the service and
Rob Harden, harry L langsterthen as an assistant coach.
Well, when he, when he cameback by grayer then rubble to
(25:27):
keep the one, keep, uh, langster.
So he went to eastern and gotthat job and so I had coaching a
basketball under him and he wastremendous, he.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He tried to teach us how to coach the game instead of
just blow food you're a greatteacher and well, there's a
story that just popped in mymind and I have no idea if
you'll remember it.
We were in high school I thinkI was probably a junior.
It was our last year at pineknot and if you remember that
gymnasium, there wasn't muchspace between the line and the
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wall and the wall was prettyhard and I hit my head on the
wall once and I was bleedingquite a bit.
You knew my mother wouldprobably freak out if I went
home.
I remember I had a white shirton and there's blood all over it
and you checked me out and youdetermined I was okay.
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But you took me home and youstood in front of me while you
told my mother that I was finebut I had cracked my head on the
wall.
But I think that's just who youwere.
You were, you took really.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
you not only coached us and taught us, but you took
care of us well a story I wantto tell you that I do remember
happened and and it was inmiddle school, after we became a
middle school, we were on thesoftball field and we were
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changing sides.
You know, three outs changesides.
Well, I was standing somewherebetween the home plate and first
base on that line there, andthey were changing sides.
And we were changing sides.
Well, a few of the kids hadgloves and I had three or four
old gloves and we were gettingabout ready to let the next
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batter back and someone in thefield decided that the catcher
needed a glove.
Well, the batter had alreadytaken his place at the batter's
box and he was taking his airswings.
I'll call them, you know he'sswinging that.
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And this catcher and he steppedinto that bat and that bat hit
him right on the top of the headand knocked him down.
I mean it put him on the groundthat guy was hitting the home
runs and I ran over there realquickly.
The only thing I had was myhands and my handkerchief.
(28:04):
When I looked at his head, Isaw his skull.
It just laid the skin back.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I put that handkerchief on there and held
it and sent someone to get theprincipal to call an ambulance
and everything worked out fine.
He was fine.
They took him away, but youknow, but that was fine, that
stopped all the bleeding andeverything.
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That was among the worstinjuries that I had in PE.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Hey, what was your first car you ever owned?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The first car I ever owned was a 1951 Plymouth that
the guy that I worked for wentnorth on a buying trip.
And he said, we'll just findyou a car up there in cincinnati
.
And we bought it and I kept itabout a year and traded it and
(29:04):
got a 1956 forward and gotdrafted into service and I
didn't make enough money withservice to make the payment.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So I had to sell it now.
Now, growing up, you seemed tobe a Ford guy, best I remember.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, most of my cars were Fords.
I had an LTD.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I had a 67 Chevrolet that I bought from Alfred Kidd
over there.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But not necessarily.
It just happened to work outthat way.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I don't remember that one.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I didn't keep it very long, I don't remember why, or
maybe a year or so forth.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Hey, here's a question for you, and I've just
enjoyed our conversation.
Here's a question for you.
You might have to think aboutthis one for a minute, and I
love to ask people this If youcould jump in the car with
somebody living or deceased, whodo you think that'd be?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You know, I saw that with the list of things that we
might talk about or something.
Really, I don't have an answerfor that.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I don't have and I was taught and it had to be this
way, okay.
Yeah, I was going to ask you ifyou'd ever been on vacation.
(30:37):
Never took a vacation, Nevertook a vacation.
I just always felt that when Icame back that I was so far
behind that I could never catchup.
You know, with the garden andthe yard and so on and so forth.
Yeah, and I was a person thatdid my own work, and I was a
person that did my own work mydad.
(31:01):
He was so busy he didn't taketime enough to teach me how to
do many things.
In other words, what I learned,I learned by watching.
Now I got my own house.
If I had a problem and I had tocall somebody, I watched them.
(31:23):
If the problem reoccurred later, I tried to fix it, whether I
did or could do it or not rightthat's the way I've always been
today we seem to just calleverybody, call somebody for
everything.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Uh, hey, well, this has been fun, coach, I could
talk to you.
I could talk to you probablyall night.
You've been around a bit.
Is there anything you wouldtell people on how to live a
good life?
Besides, don't take a vacation.
What would you tell some youngperson?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, not taking a vacation might be all right if
you handle it mentally, and itdidn't bother me mentally at all
.
Well, if I was talking to ayounger person, I'd certainly
tell them to when you're goingto school, get as much out of it
as you can, get as mucheducation as you can, so as to
say and be sure that you takecare of your body.
That would be the big thingsthat I would say, and certainly
(32:22):
I would want you to be a personthat your children were proud of
.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I know your kids are proud of you, and probably
everybody that had you in schoolhas great memories of their
time with you.
Well, thank you, coach, thishas been fun.
It's a real fun with me, so asto say Okay, Well you have a
good one, you as well, and I'lltalk to you again.
Bye-bye.
(32:50):
Bye now.
Thank you for tuning in to Danthe Road Trip Guy.
I hope you enjoyed our journeytoday and the stories that were
shared.
If you have any thoughts orquestions or stories of your own
, I'd love to hear from you.
Feel free to reach out to meanytime.
Don't forget to share thispodcast with your friends and
family and help us to spread thejoy of road trips and great
conversations.
(33:11):
Until next time, keep driving,keep exploring and keep having
those amazing conversations.
Safe travels and remember youcan find me on the internet at
dantheroadtripguycom.
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