October 28, 2024 • 25 mins
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What happens when a childhood surrounded by the roar of go-karts turns into a career in Indy Lights racing? Join us for an exciting conversation with Travis Gregg as he shares his journey from Camden, Ohio, to the fast-paced world of race car driving. Travis recounts unforgettable stories from his family's go-kart track, a beloved gathering spot in the racing community. Discover the unexpected challenges and thrilling victories that marked his racing career, along with his pivotal role as a spotter for IndyCar drivers, which proved just as thrilling as the racing itself.
Ever wondered about the ultimate family road trip? Picture this: a sprawling RV adventure across the U.S. This is what is on Travis's bucket list and ultimate road trip with his family. This episode paints a vivid picture of the freedom and adventure found on the open road, intertwined with tales of motorsport triumphs and dreams of racing in the Indianapolis 500.
Indy Lights racer turned mortgage banker, Travis Gregg's story is far from ordinary. We discuss his dynamic career shift to mortgage banking and how his racing background continues to shape his life today. Travis shares insights into his professional experiences across several states, and how his children are now exploring the world of go-karting. Stay tuned for more stories and road trip adventures by visiting dantheroadtripguy.com, and be sure to share this episode with those who appreciate the thrill of the journey, both on and off the track.
You can find Travis on social media and at his website, https://travisgregg.com
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Absolutely nothing beats windshield time, a road
trip and good conversation inthe car.
Welcome to another episode ofDan the Road Trip Guy, where we
have entertaining conversationsabout cars and road trips, life
lessons and maybe, every now andthen, a little advice.
I'm your host, dan Neal RoadTrip Extraordinaire, and now
buckle.
Now and then, a little advice.
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I'm your host, dan Neal RoadTrip Extraordinaire, and now
buckle up and enjoy the show.
I am back in the studio doing avirtual drive today with my
guest.
My guest is Travis Gregg.
Travis grew up in a small townof Camden, ohio, with
practically a go-kart track inhis backyard.
This track would go on to hostnational events and, as I've
read it, it's the birthplace ofthe World Karting Association.
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Travis moved into what we callIndy.
Next today it's Indy Lightsseries in 2004.
In his second season, he wonthree races and finished third
in the points.
Like any racer, his goal was tomake it to the Indy 500.
And if you know anything aboutracing Indy cars, you know it
involves money and a lot of it.
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Travis would go on after hiscareer in Indy Lights to be
spotters for some of the biggestnames in Indy car racing, some
who are still racing.
Today, a spotter is crucial tothe success of a driver,
particularly on an oval, due tothe fast closing speeds that
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these drivers encounter.
After racing, travis would workin the family business in
Camden, ohio, alongside hisfather, and then he made a move
to the banking world, and todayhe is a mortgage banker.
I really believe you're goingto enjoy this conversation, as
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we talk about growing up in asmall town racing cars and then
moving on to banking.
So welcome to the show Travis.
Welcome to the show, Travis.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Travis, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's a pleasure to have you here.
I don't know that we've evermet in person, but we've seen
you race and we've been to yourfamily's kart track.
I feel like I know you a littlebit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, your name's very familiar.
I'm sure I've seen your sonHenry race around the track a
time or two as well.
I've seen your son Henry racearound the track a time or two
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Let's take a.
We'll take a, since you're aformer racer still a racer, of
course.
Take a warm-up lap and justtell my listeners take a couple
minutes.
Who is Travis Gregg?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
My name's Travis Gregg, of course.
Right now I live in Douglas,michigan.
I have a beautiful wife, anna,two kids Asher's 11, and Elise
is 8.
And we'll talk about this later.
But they're getting intogo-karts.
That'll be fun to do with them.
But I grew up in Ohio, a smalltown called Camden.
That's where my dad has ago-kart track in the family.
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G&j Kartway Grew up racingkarts.
My brother and I my brother's acouple years older than me.
I always look up to him.
He, in my eyes, was a betterracer Went to Preble Shawnee
High School, then, after highschool, wrestled at Miami
University in Oxford, ohio, sowe didn't go too far away from
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home.
During that whole time I wasstill racing.
So we did go-karting, we didSCCA, formula Atlantic, and then
we did sprint cars and theneventually got up into Indy
Lights racing back in 2004.
I believe your grandpa built thetrack way back how it started,
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but I know my dad and some ofhis friends really like to do
some go-karting and they, they,they started it and I think it
was the smallest oval that wasthere, kind of like the warm-up
oval right was the first, youknow, rendition of what the
track is today and it just kindof grew.
Of course they don't have thethe monza Corner anymore that
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they had back in the late 60swhen they had the IKF Nationals
there.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, I've seen pictures of that.
It's pretty cool.
This is Dan, the road trip guy,and one of my questions I like
to ask what was your first car?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
My first car.
So it wasn't a car, it was atruck Trucks are good.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So it wasn't a car, it was a truck, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Trucks are good.
Yeah, it was passed down from.
So my sister had it.
First it was a work truck andat Barnett's and J&J Cartway it
was a 1981 Chevy.
It was blue and my sisterstarted driving it first when
she was 16.
And then it became my brother'sand then it became mine.
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Nothing special about it.
But when I got it, I think Itried to do some renovations to
the exterior and I didn't reallyknow what I was doing, but my
dad had a makeshift kind of bodyshop in the wash bay for the
semi trucks.
I think at one time I wastrying to put fiberglass over
rust and then spray painting itto kind of hide the rust holes.
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So that's what I think aboutwhen I think about that truck.
It wasn't pretty, but I wastrying to make it look as good
as it could.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, did you drive that to college then?
Oh no so that truck.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I only had that for about a year, maybe Year and a
half, and then I graduated intoa Z28.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh, okay, moved up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Moved up just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, those 81 Chevys were a little bit notorious for
rust.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Mm-hmm.
I mean it was a solid, solidtruck, 305 in it.
My sister when she had it, sheput in new interior so didn't
have vinyl seats, it had carpet.
So it was a, yeah, one badtruck to drive.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You said your family's in.
I believe they're in thetrucking business, correct?
Yes, yeah, do you ever make anydrives with any of the truck
drivers.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The one time that I can remember, like one of my
first drives, that I went on, itwas with my dad and he was
taking a load to Cincinnati.
Okay, and I was young, ofcourse, and when I heard of
Cincinnati I would just alwaysautomatically think the
Cincinnati Zoo.
So when he asked me if I wantedto go to Cincinnati, I'm like
heck, yeah.
So we get there and we get intothe warehouse and I'm like this
isn't the zoo, this isn't whatI was thinking.
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I always think about that.
Yeah, on one of the first ridesI went on.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
My dad was a long-haul truck driver and when
I was nine years old I spent thesummer with him in the cab of a
67 Kenworth.
That was fun, oh nice.
Any epic road trips in yourlife, any trips or just trips
that just stand out to you asjust very memorable.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
When I think about road trips I have two that come
to mind.
One so my dad, when we wentgo-kart racing, we'd drive down
to Florida in the winter.
We'd take this old Dodge cargovan, gray cargo van.
They had to put bench seats inthe middle because all it had
was two captain chairs in thefront.
There weren't any windows onthe right side unless you were
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sitting in the passenger side.
So they put in a big window onthe left, right behind the
driver's door.
When we were sitting on thebench seat we could sit out and
see.
But I can't remember where wewere going.
We were going on eitherJacksonville or somewhere warm,
you know, when it was at night.
You know we had to find a placeto sleep.
So I ended up finding a placeto sleep in the back between the
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go-karts.
There's a go-kart on the leftand a go-kart on the right and
there was a little spot in themiddle right where I could sleep
, just above the the axle forthe rear end and then the drive
shaft, and it would always, youknow, be warm enough.
You know, driving down in thewinter that's, that was my
little place to sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So yeah, good memories from, yeah, from those
trips, no doubt and then theother.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The other trip that really kind of sticks out is a
few years ago went to see afriend in Colorado who I went to
college with and wrestled with,and he was getting married and
we stayed in Boulder and weended up driving our Tahoe from
where we're at in Michigan allthe way out to Colorado.
We took our two kids with ustoo.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, driving through , you know, the Plains of Kansas
, you know.
Stayed in a little town calledManhattan, kansas, the first
night, where Kansas State is,and then ended up driving
through into the mountains.
Never been out that way inColorado, have you ever been?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, my favorite trip yeah, I've done a couple
epic road trips out that way, mywife and I, but I'm going to
encourage you to go get toDenver however you want to get
there.
We flew there and then, youdrive across US Route 50, which
is a cross-country highway.
(08:52):
It comes right here throughCincinnati, but it is probably
one of the most beautiful drivesfrom west of Denver to
California.
Yeah, you have to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, and I can't remember what road it was, but
when we did get into boulder andstayed there for a week, we
ended up and went into devil'sthumb resort and it was up in
the mountains and the road thatwe took up to devil's uh thumb
resort was pretty wild.
I mean climbing through themountains up you, you know, over
10,000 feet.
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It's quite a sight when you'reup there and you're kind of like
realizing how quickly thetemperature changes.
You know from just only, likeyou know, not that long ago,
from that elevation.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's a little bit crazy out there in the mountains
for sure.
Well, that's cool, great trip.
We'll switch gears a little bit.
Let's talk about.
You mentioned in theintroduction that you were a
race car driver and today theseries is called Indy.
Next, it was called Indy Lights, indy Next and then, back in
your day, I believe, it wascalled the Infineon.
(10:03):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Menards Infinity Pro Series.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Mouthful.
Yeah, this changed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Take us through that.
How you, how you got into thatracing?
We know you, you race go-karts,but how did you end up in that
series?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
and you know, in your second season you won three
races and our family was thereactually to see one of them in
uh kentucky yeah, well, it allstarted back when my dad had an
indy car with um tom kelly anddel pelfrey.
They put a, they put a car inthe 500, started out with Mark
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Dismore.
After that race my dad didn't.
He wasn't involved with it asmuch.
I think Dale Pelfrey took it onand kind of went a little bit
more doing a lot of the racing.
But there were some people thatmy dad met during that time
when we were racing sprint carsback in 2003,.
He called it, called some ofthose people and just said hey,
if I want to get Travis into alights car to do, just do a test
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.
You know who would I talk to.
And they put us in touch withSam Schmidt and that was back in
.
In 03, we set up a test out inVegas to do, you know, around
Las Vegas motor speedway, justto do some laps.
And that's pretty much thefirst time that we really got
started down that path.
Just did the test, got mylicense that next year, in 2004,
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I did three races I didKentucky, I did Texas and then
Chicago, and my first race thatI did in 04, it was in Kentucky,
but the weekend before that Ithink it was, ari Leyendijk Jr
was driving the car and forwhatever reason he couldn't race
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the next weekend, so they putme in it and it ended up on the
pole, my first race.
Wow, I was pretty excited aboutit.
Back then I didn't have a lotof fears, I just was pretty
excited about it.
Back then I wasn't.
I didn't have a lot of um fears, I just was pretty fearless and
I thought that I could justpretty much do anything I wanted
.
So so I got started in Indylights and, uh, yeah, I did that
for a few years.
Uh raced full-time in 2005 withSam Schmidt.
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Uh had the uh Lucas oil car, thenumber seven, yeah, one, uh,
three races and, I think, fiveor six poles funnier, funnier
well, you came out in the firstrace, I believe, at homestead in
one homestead yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That has to make you feel good.
You come out and win the firstrace, right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
yeah, yeah, I know.
And then it seemed like when I,when I did my first race and I
got the pole, I'm like, okay, Ihave a high bar, I just got to
win every time I get in the car.
So I was like, okay, if I don'twin, then what am I doing wrong
?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you did a little more racing.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
after that Did racing kind of stop then did some, you
know, some one-off races hereand there, with Sam Schmidt and
then Mark Moore racing, guthrieracing just here and there and
then racing as you know.
I think we talked about this alittle bit before racing is
expensive and without a bigsponsor to kind of cover it.
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It, you know, takes a lot ofeffort and a lot of resources,
so started to not do it as much.
But definitely if I had achance to be able to kind of
have some funding to kind of dosome indycar racing, that was
pretty much my goal.
Just to get in it into anindycar at least once.
Do the 500 yeah, be able to evenhave a chance to qualify and
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even get an opportunity to drive.
You know, even in a in a test,you know, but uh, yeah, wasn't
meant to be, but you know I'mstill involved with racing.
You know, even in a in a test,you know, but uh, yeah, wasn't
meant to be, but you know I'mstill involved with racing.
You know, still to this day,just not driving the big cars
anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, you are you still a spotter?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I am.
I don't do it full time.
Last year I did it for, or thispast, uh summer, I did it for
Kyle Larson.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'll probably do it again for him next year.
I heard he committed to doingit again with McLaren, reached
out to the team manager and saidhey, if you need me, I'm
available.
Pretty cool opportunity to dothat for him.
But I started spotting after Iwas done driving in lights.
Sam Schmidt just asked me if Iwanted to kind of help on some
of his drivers.
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So I spotted for JamesHinchcliffe, joseph Newgarden
kind of worked my way into theIndyCar series and spotting for
some of those drivers as well.
I was lucky enough to be ableto have the opportunity to spot
for Newgarden when he was atPenske in 18.
I have to pinch myselfsometimes to think about some of
the drivers that I spotted for.
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But Fernando Alonso, juan PabloMontoya, tony Kanaan and then
Kyle Larson I'm like how is thispossible?
Some guy from Camden Ohio hasthis big responsibility to be a
spotter for these guys.
One of the biggest races of theyear.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
nonetheless, yeah, and for I have a lot of
listeners who are not race fans.
I've always thought the spotterhas an extremely stressful job.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, you have to be pretty focused on what you're
doing.
Yeah, you have to relay theright message at the right time
or, you know, you couldpotentially cause an issue where
the driver you know doesn'tknow somebody's coming up behind
them and potentially crashes.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Absolutely.
Do you spot on road coursesalso?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
There are a few teams that do have road course
spotters Not a lot.
They'll do it like at the endof one of the straightaways just
to let you know if somebody'scoming in on the inside.
You know under braking to letthem know they're there.
But I mean nowadays you know,especially if you're on a road
course, drivers kind of knowwhat's behind them.
You know they got their mirrors.
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It's not like it is on an ovalwhere you could have.
You know the closing rates areso fast on an oval.
So, that's what makes it reallyimportant to be able to have,
you know, some eyes from above.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Sure Well, thanks for that little education on
spotting.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, no problem, you're the first guy
I've had that's a spotter, sothat's cool.
Okay, so now you've moved onfrom racing and you're in the
mortgage business.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
What took you there?
Was there one particular thing?
Or you're just like, okay, I'vegot to go to work.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well, I was working at Barnett.
Barnett is my father's truckingcompany.
He still operates it to thisday.
It's where you know.
It's on the same property wherethe go-kart track is Right,
worked in the office as adispatcher and kind of doing.
It was a small family company,sure, but just doing a little
bit of everything.
So my dad's, you know, olderthan me, and at that time I'm
like looking towards the futureand wanting to try to automate
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some few things with the companyand make it a little bit more I
don't know user-friendly as faras being able to manage.
In our discussion, my daddidn't want to give up a lot of
responsibility.
He's the guy that works 24-7,seven days a week.
Still, it was a good time for meto really just step out and
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find some differentopportunities of other things to
do.
Through some family friends,they put me in touch with one of
the sales managers atHuntington Bank to be a mortgage
lender, and I didn't knowanything about mortgage lending.
I couldn't tell you thedifference between FHA or
conventional financing.
It wasn't really the mortgagethat I was looking for.
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It was looking for theopportunity of being able to be
in sales and help people be ableto run a business in the way
that I could run it and helppeople, be able to run a
business in the way that I couldrun it and help the people the
way that I wanted to help them.
So it was almost like doing itas your own business, even
though it wasn't, but you wereable to kind of operate it the
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way that you wanted to and Ireally liked that.
And the more you worked, theharder you worked, the more you
could make, and I really likedthat aspect of it as well.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's great.
It's kind of a weird market outthere right now.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I guess it's different.
Yeah, but just today I wasputting in a couple of
refinances, which is nice.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The Fed dropped interest rates by 50 basis
points.
It didn't really change ratestoo much from the mortgage side
because everybody was expectingit.
It's definitely a step in theright direction, considering we
were up in the 8% range not toolong ago.
We're getting some moreinventory.
Things are, I think, picking upand heading in the right
direction.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So let me ask you this what's on your bucket list
in life?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Bucket list in life.
Well, to keep it along thewhole road trip theme, my wife
and I have talked about thisoften.
We want to get an RV while ourkids are still young and be able
to do a cross-country trip.
Asher and Elise, they're 11 and8.
I know once we get into highschool and college it's not
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going to be as easy to do a triplike that.
Take an RV, go out West, hit upthe national parks, probably
even stop into Las Vegas to seemy friend Sam Schmidt out there.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
But yeah, just being able to park wherever we wanted
to for the night, kind of haveour own little destination
wherever we want to make it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That would be a fun trip.
I interviewed somebody, haveyou?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
ever done trips like that with your family.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, so not.
We did some with the kids, butit was usually fly someplace.
We didn't do the RV thing.
Kind of regret that.
So I really encourage you, dothat soon.
But my wife and I took.
We still think this is probablyone of the best trips we've
taken.
We skipped over kansas and themid, the midwest area, and we
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flew to denver.
We drove us route 50 tosacramento.
We spent about three nights incalifornia.
Then we drove up the coast allback roads, no interstates up to
Portland, watched the IndyCarrace because our son was there
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drove then over to Glacier andspent a few nights there, did
the park, then down to theTetons and then back to Denver.
So that was, and I would.
That trip was amazing.
I'd never taken two weeks offin my life.
I'm a little like your dad,probably, or too much, but we
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took two weeks off and we put 4400 miles on this rental car
holy cow.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, hopefully you bought the uh unlimited yeah
option.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
unlimited miles yeah, brought it back.
They were probably like what,though I just encourage you, and
the national parks are justgreat.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, the rental car, the mileage on the rental car.
When we drove out to Colorado,I feel like I had a service done
just before I left and thenwhen I got back I had to.
It was almost due for a serviceagain.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Coupled with that, if you couldtake a road trip with anyone,
living or deceased, who would itbe?
Where would you go?
And maybe you've already toldme that, but tell me that anyway
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'd probably couple it with I really want to do a
trip as a family before my kidsget too old.
So being able to just enjoysome time with them, get them to
have some experiences, you knowat that age, and see the
country, you know in a way thatyou don't really get to see
where we live now.
But I mean we live in a greatplace.
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I mean I can't complain, westMichigan, you got the lake, you
got the dunes, beautiful area.
But just being able to kind ofsee some of the things or learn
about in school, I think wouldbe really cool.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Once you get beyond Denver, it's just like, unless
you've been there, you're justkind of like wow this is.
You know, there's so much landwe're used to, surrounded by
people and cities here and there.
It's just miles in between.
My wife and I were on us 50.
I knew about this hill becauseI've been on it before and you
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can see from the crest of onehill to the crest of the next
hill.
And I thought, and it's just,it's just this straight piece of
road, and I thought I'm gonnacheck the mileage on this.
This time it was 12, was 12miles from one crest to the next
crest, and it was just crazy.
Well, Travis, this has been fun,but I do want to ask you if you
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could leave my listeners with apiece of advice, life advice.
What would you tell them?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, I have a lot to learn myself, you know, as I go
through life.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
We all do.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I was just thinking about this the other
day Glad I learned this.
I had a closing issue with oneof my mortgages In the past.
I probably would tend to worryabout things and let it really
affect me without really knowingwhat was going to happen.
So if I could give some advice,just always think positive.
(22:51):
I think there's going to be away to work something out before
you really work yourself up andto get worried.
I know that that works for meand in this situation it helped.
Instead of going down therabbit hole of worrying about
things and getting all worked up, I just kind of said you know
what, we're going to figure thisout.
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And it ended up working outeven better than I thought.
Just stay positive when you'redealing with any sort of you
know challenge or anything likethat in anything life or work,
pretty much just to staypositive.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, that's great advice and yeah, sometimes you
can start down a path and justthe negative thoughts hit you
and you're kind of like, oh mygosh, what if this happens?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, our mind plays tricks on us and you know, once
something happens, it triggersus to think that things are
going to be bad.
But you know, there's things tolearn from those situations too
.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Not too much looking in the rearview mirror either,
right.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Exactly.
I mean, that's a tough one forme when I was growing up, you
know, looking in the rear viewmirror, bad race or something
like that I would always beatmyself up.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And watching these drivers today.
You know talking about you knowa bad thing, you know, and
they're like you know what I'mjust going to.
You know we're going to focusforward.
We had that bad mistake, butyou know, we're just going to.
You know, race next weekend andyou know make up for it.
I'm like man.
I wish I could have been likethat when I was racing.
Maybe my worry or my anxietymay not have been as bad.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I would agree.
I'm not a racer and I had thatsame thing.
Well, Travis, this has been fun.
Yeah, Hopefully we get to catchup in person sometime and, but
before we leave, leave mylisteners.
Maybe somebody's looking for amortgage.
Leave my listeners with how tofind you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Absolutely.
They can visit my website,which is travisgregcom, and
that's two Gs on the end.
I'm on Facebook and Instagram.
Instagram and, yeah, anybody'slooking to get pre-approved.
Or, right now, with rates uh,rate rates getting a little bit
better.
Anybody wants to refi or, youknow, do a cash out refi.
I'd be glad to help.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, now do you only work in Michigan, or?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Nope, I got, um, I got, I'm licensed in five States
.
Okay, so Florida, ohio, indiana, Michigan and Indiana.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, great, and I hope you had fun.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, I had a great time.
Yeah, thanks for thanking me todo this.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
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Absolutely nothing beats windshield time, a road
trip and good conversation inthe car.
Welcome to another episode ofDan the Road Trip Guy, where we
have entertaining conversationsabout cars and road trips, life
lessons and maybe, every now andthen, a little advice.
I'm your host, dan Neal RoadTrip Extraordinaire, and now
buckle.
Now and then, a little advice.
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I'm your host, dan Neal RoadTrip Extraordinaire, and now
buckle up and enjoy the show.
I am back in the studio doing avirtual drive today with my
guest.
My guest is Travis Gregg.
Travis grew up in a small townof Camden, ohio, with
practically a go-kart track inhis backyard.
This track would go on to hostnational events and, as I've
read it, it's the birthplace ofthe World Karting Association.
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Travis moved into what we callIndy.
Next today it's Indy Lightsseries in 2004.
In his second season, he wonthree races and finished third
in the points.
Like any racer, his goal was tomake it to the Indy 500.
And if you know anything aboutracing Indy cars, you know it
involves money and a lot of it.
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Travis would go on after hiscareer in Indy Lights to be
spotters for some of the biggestnames in Indy car racing, some
who are still racing.
Today, a spotter is crucial tothe success of a driver,
particularly on an oval, due tothe fast closing speeds that
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these drivers encounter.
After racing, travis would workin the family business in
Camden, ohio, alongside hisfather, and then he made a move
to the banking world, and todayhe is a mortgage banker.
I really believe you're goingto enjoy this conversation, as
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we talk about growing up in asmall town racing cars and then
moving on to banking.
So welcome to the show Travis.
Welcome to the show, Travis.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Travis, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's a pleasure to have you here.
I don't know that we've evermet in person, but we've seen
you race and we've been to yourfamily's kart track.
I feel like I know you a littlebit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, your name's very familiar.
I'm sure I've seen your sonHenry race around the track a
time or two as well.
I've seen your son Henry racearound the track a time or two
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Let's take a.
We'll take a, since you're aformer racer still a racer, of
course.
Take a warm-up lap and justtell my listeners take a couple
minutes.
Who is Travis Gregg?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
My name's Travis Gregg, of course.
Right now I live in Douglas,michigan.
I have a beautiful wife, anna,two kids Asher's 11, and Elise
is 8.
And we'll talk about this later.
But they're getting intogo-karts.
That'll be fun to do with them.
But I grew up in Ohio, a smalltown called Camden.
That's where my dad has ago-kart track in the family.
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G&j Kartway Grew up racingkarts.
My brother and I my brother's acouple years older than me.
I always look up to him.
He, in my eyes, was a betterracer Went to Preble Shawnee
High School, then, after highschool, wrestled at Miami
University in Oxford, ohio, sowe didn't go too far away from
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home.
During that whole time I wasstill racing.
So we did go-karting, we didSCCA, formula Atlantic, and then
we did sprint cars and theneventually got up into Indy
Lights racing back in 2004.
I believe your grandpa built thetrack way back how it started,
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but I know my dad and some ofhis friends really like to do
some go-karting and they, they,they started it and I think it
was the smallest oval that wasthere, kind of like the warm-up
oval right was the first, youknow, rendition of what the
track is today and it just kindof grew.
Of course they don't have thethe monza Corner anymore that
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they had back in the late 60swhen they had the IKF Nationals
there.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, I've seen pictures of that.
It's pretty cool.
This is Dan, the road trip guy,and one of my questions I like
to ask what was your first car?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
My first car.
So it wasn't a car, it was atruck Trucks are good.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So it wasn't a car, it was a truck, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Trucks are good.
Yeah, it was passed down from.
So my sister had it.
First it was a work truck andat Barnett's and J&J Cartway it
was a 1981 Chevy.
It was blue and my sisterstarted driving it first when
she was 16.
And then it became my brother'sand then it became mine.
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Nothing special about it.
But when I got it, I think Itried to do some renovations to
the exterior and I didn't reallyknow what I was doing, but my
dad had a makeshift kind of bodyshop in the wash bay for the
semi trucks.
I think at one time I wastrying to put fiberglass over
rust and then spray painting itto kind of hide the rust holes.
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So that's what I think aboutwhen I think about that truck.
It wasn't pretty, but I wastrying to make it look as good
as it could.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, did you drive that to college then?
Oh no so that truck.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I only had that for about a year, maybe Year and a
half, and then I graduated intoa Z28.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh, okay, moved up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Moved up just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, those 81 Chevys were a little bit notorious for
rust.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Mm-hmm.
I mean it was a solid, solidtruck, 305 in it.
My sister when she had it, sheput in new interior so didn't
have vinyl seats, it had carpet.
So it was a, yeah, one badtruck to drive.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You said your family's in.
I believe they're in thetrucking business, correct?
Yes, yeah, do you ever make anydrives with any of the truck
drivers.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The one time that I can remember, like one of my
first drives, that I went on, itwas with my dad and he was
taking a load to Cincinnati.
Okay, and I was young, ofcourse, and when I heard of
Cincinnati I would just alwaysautomatically think the
Cincinnati Zoo.
So when he asked me if I wantedto go to Cincinnati, I'm like
heck, yeah.
So we get there and we get intothe warehouse and I'm like this
isn't the zoo, this isn't whatI was thinking.
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I always think about that.
Yeah, on one of the first ridesI went on.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
My dad was a long-haul truck driver and when
I was nine years old I spent thesummer with him in the cab of a
67 Kenworth.
That was fun, oh nice.
Any epic road trips in yourlife, any trips or just trips
that just stand out to you asjust very memorable.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
When I think about road trips I have two that come
to mind.
One so my dad, when we wentgo-kart racing, we'd drive down
to Florida in the winter.
We'd take this old Dodge cargovan, gray cargo van.
They had to put bench seats inthe middle because all it had
was two captain chairs in thefront.
There weren't any windows onthe right side unless you were
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sitting in the passenger side.
So they put in a big window onthe left, right behind the
driver's door.
When we were sitting on thebench seat we could sit out and
see.
But I can't remember where wewere going.
We were going on eitherJacksonville or somewhere warm,
you know, when it was at night.
You know we had to find a placeto sleep.
So I ended up finding a placeto sleep in the back between the
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go-karts.
There's a go-kart on the leftand a go-kart on the right and
there was a little spot in themiddle right where I could sleep
, just above the the axle forthe rear end and then the drive
shaft, and it would always, youknow, be warm enough.
You know, driving down in thewinter that's, that was my
little place to sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So yeah, good memories from, yeah, from those
trips, no doubt and then theother.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The other trip that really kind of sticks out is a
few years ago went to see afriend in Colorado who I went to
college with and wrestled with,and he was getting married and
we stayed in Boulder and weended up driving our Tahoe from
where we're at in Michigan allthe way out to Colorado.
We took our two kids with ustoo.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, driving through , you know, the Plains of Kansas
, you know.
Stayed in a little town calledManhattan, kansas, the first
night, where Kansas State is,and then ended up driving
through into the mountains.
Never been out that way inColorado, have you ever been?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, my favorite trip yeah, I've done a couple
epic road trips out that way, mywife and I, but I'm going to
encourage you to go get toDenver however you want to get
there.
We flew there and then, youdrive across US Route 50, which
is a cross-country highway.
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It comes right here throughCincinnati, but it is probably
one of the most beautiful drivesfrom west of Denver to
California.
Yeah, you have to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, and I can't remember what road it was, but
when we did get into boulder andstayed there for a week, we
ended up and went into devil'sthumb resort and it was up in
the mountains and the road thatwe took up to devil's uh thumb
resort was pretty wild.
I mean climbing through themountains up you, you know, over
10,000 feet.
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It's quite a sight when you'reup there and you're kind of like
realizing how quickly thetemperature changes.
You know from just only, likeyou know, not that long ago,
from that elevation.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's a little bit crazy out there in the mountains
for sure.
Well, that's cool, great trip.
We'll switch gears a little bit.
Let's talk about.
You mentioned in theintroduction that you were a
race car driver and today theseries is called Indy.
Next, it was called Indy Lights, indy Next and then, back in
your day, I believe, it wascalled the Infineon.
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Is that?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Menards Infinity Pro Series.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Mouthful.
Yeah, this changed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Take us through that.
How you, how you got into thatracing?
We know you, you race go-karts,but how did you end up in that
series?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
and you know, in your second season you won three
races and our family was thereactually to see one of them in
uh kentucky yeah, well, it allstarted back when my dad had an
indy car with um tom kelly anddel pelfrey.
They put a, they put a car inthe 500, started out with Mark
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Dismore.
After that race my dad didn't.
He wasn't involved with it asmuch.
I think Dale Pelfrey took it onand kind of went a little bit
more doing a lot of the racing.
But there were some people thatmy dad met during that time
when we were racing sprint carsback in 2003,.
He called it, called some ofthose people and just said hey,
if I want to get Travis into alights car to do, just do a test
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.
You know who would I talk to.
And they put us in touch withSam Schmidt and that was back in
.
In 03, we set up a test out inVegas to do, you know, around
Las Vegas motor speedway, justto do some laps.
And that's pretty much thefirst time that we really got
started down that path.
Just did the test, got mylicense that next year, in 2004,
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I did three races I didKentucky, I did Texas and then
Chicago, and my first race thatI did in 04, it was in Kentucky,
but the weekend before that Ithink it was, ari Leyendijk Jr
was driving the car and forwhatever reason he couldn't race
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the next weekend, so they putme in it and it ended up on the
pole, my first race.
Wow, I was pretty excited aboutit.
Back then I didn't have a lotof fears, I just was pretty
excited about it.
Back then I wasn't.
I didn't have a lot of um fears, I just was pretty fearless and
I thought that I could justpretty much do anything I wanted
.
So so I got started in Indylights and, uh, yeah, I did that
for a few years.
Uh raced full-time in 2005 withSam Schmidt.
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Uh had the uh Lucas oil car, thenumber seven, yeah, one, uh,
three races and, I think, fiveor six poles funnier, funnier
well, you came out in the firstrace, I believe, at homestead in
one homestead yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That has to make you feel good.
You come out and win the firstrace, right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
yeah, yeah, I know.
And then it seemed like when I,when I did my first race and I
got the pole, I'm like, okay, Ihave a high bar, I just got to
win every time I get in the car.
So I was like, okay, if I don'twin, then what am I doing wrong
?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you did a little more racing.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
after that Did racing kind of stop then did some, you
know, some one-off races hereand there, with Sam Schmidt and
then Mark Moore racing, guthrieracing just here and there and
then racing as you know.
I think we talked about this alittle bit before racing is
expensive and without a bigsponsor to kind of cover it.
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It, you know, takes a lot ofeffort and a lot of resources,
so started to not do it as much.
But definitely if I had achance to be able to kind of
have some funding to kind of dosome indycar racing, that was
pretty much my goal.
Just to get in it into anindycar at least once.
Do the 500 yeah, be able to evenhave a chance to qualify and
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even get an opportunity to drive.
You know, even in a in a test,you know, but uh, yeah, wasn't
meant to be, but you know I'mstill involved with racing.
You know, even in a in a test,you know, but uh, yeah, wasn't
meant to be, but you know I'mstill involved with racing.
You know, still to this day,just not driving the big cars
anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, you are you still a spotter?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I am.
I don't do it full time.
Last year I did it for, or thispast, uh summer, I did it for
Kyle Larson.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'll probably do it again for him next year.
I heard he committed to doingit again with McLaren, reached
out to the team manager and saidhey, if you need me, I'm
available.
Pretty cool opportunity to dothat for him.
But I started spotting after Iwas done driving in lights.
Sam Schmidt just asked me if Iwanted to kind of help on some
of his drivers.
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So I spotted for JamesHinchcliffe, joseph Newgarden
kind of worked my way into theIndyCar series and spotting for
some of those drivers as well.
I was lucky enough to be ableto have the opportunity to spot
for Newgarden when he was atPenske in 18.
I have to pinch myselfsometimes to think about some of
the drivers that I spotted for.
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But Fernando Alonso, juan PabloMontoya, tony Kanaan and then
Kyle Larson I'm like how is thispossible?
Some guy from Camden Ohio hasthis big responsibility to be a
spotter for these guys.
One of the biggest races of theyear.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
nonetheless, yeah, and for I have a lot of
listeners who are not race fans.
I've always thought the spotterhas an extremely stressful job.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, you have to be pretty focused on what you're
doing.
Yeah, you have to relay theright message at the right time
or, you know, you couldpotentially cause an issue where
the driver you know doesn'tknow somebody's coming up behind
them and potentially crashes.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Absolutely.
Do you spot on road coursesalso?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
There are a few teams that do have road course
spotters Not a lot.
They'll do it like at the endof one of the straightaways just
to let you know if somebody'scoming in on the inside.
You know under braking to letthem know they're there.
But I mean nowadays you know,especially if you're on a road
course, drivers kind of knowwhat's behind them.
You know they got their mirrors.
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It's not like it is on an ovalwhere you could have.
You know the closing rates areso fast on an oval.
So, that's what makes it reallyimportant to be able to have,
you know, some eyes from above.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Sure Well, thanks for that little education on
spotting.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, no problem, you're the first guy
I've had that's a spotter, sothat's cool.
Okay, so now you've moved onfrom racing and you're in the
mortgage business.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
What took you there?
Was there one particular thing?
Or you're just like, okay, I'vegot to go to work.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well, I was working at Barnett.
Barnett is my father's truckingcompany.
He still operates it to thisday.
It's where you know.
It's on the same property wherethe go-kart track is Right,
worked in the office as adispatcher and kind of doing.
It was a small family company,sure, but just doing a little
bit of everything.
So my dad's, you know, olderthan me, and at that time I'm
like looking towards the futureand wanting to try to automate
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some few things with the companyand make it a little bit more I
don't know user-friendly as faras being able to manage.
In our discussion, my daddidn't want to give up a lot of
responsibility.
He's the guy that works 24-7,seven days a week.
Still, it was a good time for meto really just step out and
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find some differentopportunities of other things to
do.
Through some family friends,they put me in touch with one of
the sales managers atHuntington Bank to be a mortgage
lender, and I didn't knowanything about mortgage lending.
I couldn't tell you thedifference between FHA or
conventional financing.
It wasn't really the mortgagethat I was looking for.
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It was looking for theopportunity of being able to be
in sales and help people be ableto run a business in the way
that I could run it and helppeople, be able to run a
business in the way that I couldrun it and help the people the
way that I wanted to help them.
So it was almost like doing itas your own business, even
though it wasn't, but you wereable to kind of operate it the
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way that you wanted to and Ireally liked that.
And the more you worked, theharder you worked, the more you
could make, and I really likedthat aspect of it as well.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's great.
It's kind of a weird market outthere right now.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I guess it's different.
Yeah, but just today I wasputting in a couple of
refinances, which is nice.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The Fed dropped interest rates by 50 basis
points.
It didn't really change ratestoo much from the mortgage side
because everybody was expectingit.
It's definitely a step in theright direction, considering we
were up in the 8% range not toolong ago.
We're getting some moreinventory.
Things are, I think, picking upand heading in the right
direction.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So let me ask you this what's on your bucket list
in life?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Bucket list in life.
Well, to keep it along thewhole road trip theme, my wife
and I have talked about thisoften.
We want to get an RV while ourkids are still young and be able
to do a cross-country trip.
Asher and Elise, they're 11 and8.
I know once we get into highschool and college it's not
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going to be as easy to do a triplike that.
Take an RV, go out West, hit upthe national parks, probably
even stop into Las Vegas to seemy friend Sam Schmidt out there.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
But yeah, just being able to park wherever we wanted
to for the night, kind of haveour own little destination
wherever we want to make it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That would be a fun trip.
I interviewed somebody, haveyou?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
ever done trips like that with your family.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, so not.
We did some with the kids, butit was usually fly someplace.
We didn't do the RV thing.
Kind of regret that.
So I really encourage you, dothat soon.
But my wife and I took.
We still think this is probablyone of the best trips we've
taken.
We skipped over kansas and themid, the midwest area, and we
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flew to denver.
We drove us route 50 tosacramento.
We spent about three nights incalifornia.
Then we drove up the coast allback roads, no interstates up to
Portland, watched the IndyCarrace because our son was there
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drove then over to Glacier andspent a few nights there, did
the park, then down to theTetons and then back to Denver.
So that was, and I would.
That trip was amazing.
I'd never taken two weeks offin my life.
I'm a little like your dad,probably, or too much, but we
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took two weeks off and we put 4400 miles on this rental car
holy cow.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, hopefully you bought the uh unlimited yeah
option.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
unlimited miles yeah, brought it back.
They were probably like what,though I just encourage you, and
the national parks are justgreat.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, the rental car, the mileage on the rental car.
When we drove out to Colorado,I feel like I had a service done
just before I left and thenwhen I got back I had to.
It was almost due for a serviceagain.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Coupled with that, if you couldtake a road trip with anyone,
living or deceased, who would itbe?
Where would you go?
And maybe you've already toldme that, but tell me that anyway
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'd probably couple it with I really want to do a
trip as a family before my kidsget too old.
So being able to just enjoysome time with them, get them to
have some experiences, you knowat that age, and see the
country, you know in a way thatyou don't really get to see
where we live now.
But I mean we live in a greatplace.
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I mean I can't complain, westMichigan, you got the lake, you
got the dunes, beautiful area.
But just being able to kind ofsee some of the things or learn
about in school, I think wouldbe really cool.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Once you get beyond Denver, it's just like, unless
you've been there, you're justkind of like wow this is.
You know, there's so much landwe're used to, surrounded by
people and cities here and there.
It's just miles in between.
My wife and I were on us 50.
I knew about this hill becauseI've been on it before and you
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can see from the crest of onehill to the crest of the next
hill.
And I thought, and it's just,it's just this straight piece of
road, and I thought I'm gonnacheck the mileage on this.
This time it was 12, was 12miles from one crest to the next
crest, and it was just crazy.
Well, Travis, this has been fun,but I do want to ask you if you
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could leave my listeners with apiece of advice, life advice.
What would you tell them?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, I have a lot to learn myself, you know, as I go
through life.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
We all do.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I was just thinking about this the other
day Glad I learned this.
I had a closing issue with oneof my mortgages In the past.
I probably would tend to worryabout things and let it really
affect me without really knowingwhat was going to happen.
So if I could give some advice,just always think positive.
(22:51):
I think there's going to be away to work something out before
you really work yourself up andto get worried.
I know that that works for meand in this situation it helped.
Instead of going down therabbit hole of worrying about
things and getting all worked up, I just kind of said you know
what, we're going to figure thisout.
(23:11):
And it ended up working outeven better than I thought.
Just stay positive when you'redealing with any sort of you
know challenge or anything likethat in anything life or work,
pretty much just to staypositive.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, that's great advice and yeah, sometimes you
can start down a path and justthe negative thoughts hit you
and you're kind of like, oh mygosh, what if this happens?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, our mind plays tricks on us and you know, once
something happens, it triggersus to think that things are
going to be bad.
But you know, there's things tolearn from those situations too
.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Not too much looking in the rearview mirror either,
right.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Exactly.
I mean, that's a tough one forme when I was growing up, you
know, looking in the rear viewmirror, bad race or something
like that I would always beatmyself up.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And watching these drivers today.
You know talking about you knowa bad thing, you know, and
they're like you know what I'mjust going to.
You know we're going to focusforward.
We had that bad mistake, butyou know, we're just going to.
You know, race next weekend andyou know make up for it.
I'm like man.
I wish I could have been likethat when I was racing.
Maybe my worry or my anxietymay not have been as bad.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I would agree.
I'm not a racer and I had thatsame thing.
Well, Travis, this has been fun.
Yeah, Hopefully we get to catchup in person sometime and, but
before we leave, leave mylisteners.
Maybe somebody's looking for amortgage.
Leave my listeners with how tofind you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Absolutely.
They can visit my website,which is travisgregcom, and
that's two Gs on the end.
I'm on Facebook and Instagram.
Instagram and, yeah, anybody'slooking to get pre-approved.
Or, right now, with rates uh,rate rates getting a little bit
better.
Anybody wants to refi or, youknow, do a cash out refi.
I'd be glad to help.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, now do you only work in Michigan, or?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Nope, I got, um, I got, I'm licensed in five States
.
Okay, so Florida, ohio, indiana, Michigan and Indiana.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, great, and I hope you had fun.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, I had a great time.
Yeah, thanks for thanking me todo this.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Until we meet up again.
You can find me on the internetat dantheroadtripguycom.
I hope you will follow thispodcast so that you don't miss
any upcoming episodes and shareit with your family and friends
so they can enjoy the stories ofmy guests also.
Until we meet again on a futureepisode, keep having
conversations with each otherand keep driving.
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