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So many times we get
the idea in church that we're
just here to make it for God, tobless us, to do good things for
us to protect us, to provide forus.
But yet the whole purpose ofgathering is to stir one another
up this way in love and goodworks.
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Jesus said it's more blessed togive than it is to receive.
So what we do is we receive fromhim through his son and what
he's done through the cross, anew fresh identity, a new fresh
perspective.
And then we begin to live inthat truth which starts to go
this way.
Are you following what I'msaying here?
It's very important that weunderstand this.
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Uh, I believe one of the mosttragic things is, is when good
people, good sincere people thatsee their need for a savior and
believe the blood of Jesus wasshed on the cross, that they had
sinned and need a savior andforgiveness.
Miss the greater point ofbecoming this way in their life
where they love one another.
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Men, it's one thing to beforgiven.
It's another thing to becomeforgiveness.
It's one thing to obtain mercy.
It's another thing to becomemerciful.
Why would we actually wantsomething from him that we're
not willing to become?
Jesus never said, sing to me andpray to me when you're
overwhelmed.
He said, follow me, and then hegave us the person of Holy
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spirit to empower us and makethat possible.
It's pretty big deal to me.
It's exciting.
In Matthew 18 there was a manthat couldn't pay back the debt
he owed the master and themaster was going to have him in.
His whole family sold and theman cried out and pleaded to
have mercy on him in the masterhad compassion in his heart.
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It's Matthew 18 and he hadcompassion on the servant and it
said that he relieved him as ofhis debt and forgave him of
everything he owed.
Do you guys understand that?
That's the type and shadowthat's symbolic.
That's a parable that's pointingto what was about to happen
through the cross of JesusChrist, that the lamb of God was
here to take away the sins ofmen that guilty men could go
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free through the blood becauseof repentance in their heart.
Do you understand that when youdesire change and wish you
didn't do what you did, yourheart has turned and you're not
the one that did it through theblood in the sight of God.
When repentance comes, it'sactually an amazing gift from
the Lord.
God's God says in his word andTimothy that God might grant
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repentance.
It's powerful to give us, causeyou can't change where you've
been.
You can't change what you'vedone.
You can't go back and rewritethe script, but who you are can
change.
And that's a major, major, majorgoal of the gospel.
Yeah.
Does it make sense to yourheart?
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So let's just, let's
just do it this way.
When,
Speaker 2 (03:12):
when I come to Jesus
with this baptism's all about
we, I wasn't planning on a waterbaptism.
Wiley, he knew Esther had neverbeen baptized and wanted to be.
And we have a history and I lovethose guys the best.
I know them.
They're so precious and theythought it would be cool if we
do it this weekend.
And then thought, well, why notopen it up to whoever?
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Uh, not trying to violateanything.
You're a part of anything.
I had two young girls that weregetting baptized.
We slept on it.
So she told me, where is she?
Where is, where is she?
There she is.
She said we slept on it.
And then we talked about it andwe ask our parents and they
said, okay, sweetest thing.
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So sincere.
12 years old unlike, that'samazing.
I don't know about you.
Sometimes I get tricked intothinking, man, I wish I saw what
I see now when I was that age.
But what I understand is God's aRedeemer and he lets my life be
lived.
It feels like I've always seenthis.
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So I don't think I'm trying tomake up for lost time.
I think he's redemption himself.
I think he makes the most of themoment.
And I think we can bear a ton offruit no matter what age we are.
When we get understanding, justlisten to my heart carefully.
The whole reason we're to gatherourselves together is to stir
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one another in loving goodworks.
How many times do we get trickedinto just a dutiful mentality,
works to the Lord, service tothe Lord or getting the blessing
of the Lord.
Sometimes we come to a specialservice guest speaker and we
have a nice man.
I'm going to go and see what Goddoes or I'm going to go with in
faith to receive this or that.
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I'm not saying that's wrong, butwhat I'm saying is there's a
higher priority.
We're not here to see what Godcan do for us.
We're here to be in power, toreveal him and convey him and be
more like him in our everydaylives.
And if we miss that, we miss areason for grace in our life and
we miss a reason for why hecame.
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He came that you and I wouldwalk in love and be love, walk
in mercy and show forgiveness.
Matthew 18 I'll finish thisstory.
The I didn't know that I was tomaybe go there and I just was
waiting and I'm feeling like Ineed to just finish that.
He said to the man, I forgiveyou of all you've done.
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It's a sign of the gospel.
Who knows?
He's the lamb of God who's takenwas in the world.
Who knows that we talked aboutit today.
Question and answer aboutrighteousness in the power of
it, and some people say, well,that's presumptuous.
Who are you to say that?
I didn't say that.
He said that.
He said that we're righteous.
He said, we're the righteousnessof God in Christ.
He wrote to the saints ofEphesus and Philip high and he's
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amazing.
God's amazing.
He doesn't see us for wherewe've been.
He sees us through his sonthat's designed to humble our
hearts.
So the goodness of God leads usto repentance, not the mandate
of God, not the reprimand ofGod.
For a lot of people in my lifesay, well brother, it ain't all
about the love of God.
It's about the judgment of Godtoo.
I don't.
You can't show me one scripturethat says the judgment of God
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transforms a man.
You can't.
But I can show you scripturesthat says the goodness of God
does.
See the goodness of God isn'there to empower me to sin.
It's here to take me away fromit and to erase it and remove
it.
The goodness of God is here totouch me.
That when I know I don't deservethis kind of mercy, he gives it
anyway.
And all of a sudden I realized,Oh my goodness, what a love.
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Come on.
We call it the parable of theprodigal son and we make it all
about a son who was lost.
Wonder if it's the parable of anamazing father and it's a sign
of who he is.
Because without the father, youdon't even have a cool story.
You just have a boy that made amistake and has no answer.
But when you bring the fatherinto the prodigal son, now you
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have an amazing story.
Cause he has redemption at theend of the story and he has
restoration and all of a suddenhe's living as if he lost
nothing.
And he's restored.
That's the gospel redemption.
The word redemption literallymeans brought back, brought back
to original value.
It's amazing.
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I mean, I'm not saying you neverheard it, but in my Christian
life growing up, nobody evertold me these things.
Nobody ever said that Jesus diedon the cross because he saw my
potential purpose and destiny inknew what my life could be when
he was inside me.
They always just said he died onthe cross because I was a mess
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and always going to be a messand I sinned and he had to die.
So I'd watch the Easter story,rendition of the crossing.
It actually feel better in myheart because I felt like, why
would he do that for me?
Did anybody ever say a wonder?
I don't even understand howJesus can love me.
Why?
Because you value yourself basedon your own life experience and
resume.
He values you on purpose,potential in destiny.
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He knows what he created you tobe.
He knows what's possible.
He knows what your life lookslike when he's in you and your
surrendered.
Yeah, and he believes it's worthpaying for.
See growing up, if I'd havetalked like this, people
would've gotten nervous andconcerned.
And now that I'm crone up,people can still get nervous and
concerned because we missed thepoint.
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He didn't just die on the crossbecause we're sinners.
He had to die because we sinned.
But he wants to get us out ofsin and take away the sin of the
world and remove us from thatpast thing and put new life
inside of us so that we put offthe old man and on the new
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man.
It's scriptural, it's amazing.
And we get so gripped by howwe've been and how we think
we're going to be.
And I think we already sometimesget tricked into right now.
Tomorrow you think, well, I'llbe bleeding the blood before
long and all of a sudden we'reset up to fail.
And when you fail, you believeyou're a failure and all of a
sudden your idea of who you areand what you
Speaker 2 (09:19):
or has nothing to do
with what he's done and who he
is inside of Yale, please don'tbe tricked into that.
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God comes to this man
and he says, I relieve you of
all you owe me.
And the guy was like, woo,
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I got saved in 95 so
somewhere between 95 and 97 the
talents and the Daneri that's inthat story.
In Matthew 18 in that dayscurrency in 95 to 97 it was
somewhere right in there.
I'd say it was about 96 or seventhe Bible currency that's listed
there in today's value, I don'tknow about 2019 but in 96 97 I
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haven't looked at it since.
It was about$19 million of debtthat was forgiven versus$500
that he choked his brother andput him in prison.
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Speaker 2 (10:12):
now you think with me
at that parable, it's like makes
me want to cry.
God's trying to speak to us.
He forgives the guy ofeverything and the guy has a
brother that owes him 500 bucksand he says, pay me what you owe
me.
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And he says, I can, I need time.
I can't.
You should have it.
You should pay me by now.
And the guy went forgive him andit said he had him shut up in
prison.
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Well grieved the
fellow servants and they went
and told demester, you guysfamiliar with this?
Do you need me to read it out ofthe Bible?
Where am I on track?
Okay, he, he word gets to themaster in semesters.
He's like, what?
He comes to the guy.
Guess what he says to the guy,he says, you evil and wicked
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servant.
Watch I forgave you ofeverything you owed me.
Should you not have forgivenyour brother what he owed you?
He didn't even bring up theamount and harp on that.
He just shared principle.
What Scott trying to say throughthat parable.
I don't forgive you just soyou're forgiving.
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I forgive you.
So you're so touched by theforgiveness that you see the
salvation in it.
The beauty in it, the freedom init, that you yourself become the
same thing.
What?
What's the big deal for all?
Forgiven in our hearts or shutup towards one another?
What is the big deal?
If we've all received mercy fromGod and we can't afford mercy to
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each other, we're missing thepoint of that happens.
One of the reasons for thisbaptism is so when you get in
the water, you die in thelikeness of his death and you
give up everything you've everbeen, so all that he is can come
alive on the inside of you andall of a sudden you're not just
here to sing to him and you'renot just here to pray to him.
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If you're overwhelmed, you'rehere to follow him because he
invited you to do that.
The Bible says he's firstbornamong many brothers.
It says in Romans eight we werepredestined to be conformed to
the image of his son.
Man.
These scriptures I've found inmy Bible, Jesus said, if you
believe in me, the things I do,you'll do.
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You say, well, that was thedisciples.
No.
In Matthew 28 he said, go makedisciples and teach them to
observe everything I taught you,not some of the things I taught
you.
Everything I taught you, man.
If he's talking to them, he'stalking to me and I'm excited
about that.
Trying to play it a little calm.
I know you're having a hard timethinking I'm excited, but I am.
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I know one thing, my
friend, I used to live with me
when I didn't know him, and nowI get to live with him and know
him, live with me in him, andit's a whole different world.
You come out of darkness andit's light.
You put off the old man and hisdeeds and you've put on the new
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man.
Colossians three 10 who isrenewed in knowledge according
to the image of him who createdyou?
Spy BL.
I read it.
It's there has to be possible,Jay or brother.
You're thinking more highly thanyou know.
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I'm saying what?
He says.
I'm not going out of bounds atall.
If he says he loves me, it's nothumility to say he can't.
It's called unbelief.
Oops.
If he says he's for me and notagainst me, it's not your
ability to say he's out to getme.
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He said, you evil and wickedservant.
I forgave you of everything.
Should you not have done thesame?
What's that?
Tell us that he doesn't doanything just so you receive it.
He does it so you become itbecause that's how he's modified
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and if a seed would die and fallto the ground, it'll spring up
and bear much fruit.
If that seed never dies, itabides alone.
It doesn't see the seed.
The seed doesn't go to church.
You go to church the rest ofyour life and live for yourself.
You can get tricked into being aChristian for your own gain.
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People that do that, getfrustrated, have periods of
discouragement.
Get mad at God for seasons andcall it normal.
It's not normal friend.
It's deception.
You're called the walk in thelight as he is in the light, the
day of the righteous growbrighter and brighter.
We go from faith to faith andglory to glory.
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We're closer now than we've everbeen.
Yeah, redeem the times the daysare evil.
Arise you who sleep and let himgive you light.
They're all scriptures.
I read them.
They all have the same message.
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It's why we do this waterbaptism.
I want you to see something withme.
I'm so excited about it.
If you have a Bible, look inRomans six if you don't, I'll
just read this way.
You really feel safe cause I'mnot even quoting.
I'm just reading.
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Yeah, I feel the same way.
Yep.
Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Okay
Speaker 6 (16:08):
guys, this is good
news.
Like, look, I'm not trying to bestrange and weird.
I'm not trying to pull youremotional teeth.
I'm not trying to get a reactionout of you.
I'm not saying, well, if you'resaved, you ought to let your
face show it.
And I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is like, like Ihad people say how I heard
people say, Hey, you know, man,if you're full of joy, you ought
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to probably inform your face.
And they're actually beingsarcastic because people are
long faced.
But what I've observed over 24years of salvation, there is not
a whole lot of joy in the bodyof Christ.
There's not a whole lot of joy.
I'm not being mean andjudgemental.
I don't perceive a whole lot ofjoy in the room right now.
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Just being honest.
Some people might be here justtrying to figure me out.
That's a Shea.
You're not here to figure meout.
Come on, stop that.
I don't even know if you havepermission really to do that
under those terms, which iswhere I'm just guards, Watchman
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on the wall, self appointedbecause the stuff you don't
agree with, you get mad at andthen you get mad at people and
then you write your anger aboutpeople.
That's a giveaway.
You don't know the Lord.
You probably should chill.
I honestly don't see a lot ofjoy in people.
I see life deciding how we'redoing.
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I see what's going on and whatwe're going through.
Decide how we're doing.
I don't honestly see who he isin us deciding how we're doing.
I see life speaking way louderthan truth in a lot of
situations and that's a shame.
It's truth
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that makes you free
not life.
Life comes from him.
He said, truth makes you free.
What is truth?
Pilots said, what is truth?
Jesus the truth not are the,yeah, look, I'm not being mean
and judgmental.
I don't perceive a lot of joy inpeople.
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And when you say, how are youdoing?
The usual answer is the twobiggest challenges and keep us
in prayer, which reveals thatwe're only as good as it's going
and instead of as good as he isin me and why.
Let's just set this straightcause there's some new faces and
people all weekend.
We've been just camping on thesame stuff that the only reason
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he's in us is so we can reallyshine.
He forgave us of everythingwe've ever done so that he can
equip us and empower us throughhis righteous judgment to be
what we're here in the firstplace to be sons and daughters
of God.
You've been predestined before.
The foundation of the world tobe adopted in the lamb was slain
before time was in the sense ofthe world before the foundation
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of the world.
She sounds like this thing'salways been on.
We ought to in all our gettingget understanding and study and
show ourselves approved and livein the good news.
The angel said in the Shepherd'sfield watching over the sheep.
When Jesus want the hold, Ibring you good tidings of which
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means when you understand thegood tidings, the response is
great joy.
That doesn't mean you have to gowell, which you sure got
something to be joyful aboutgood tidings of and it shall be
too.
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Oh,
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so our places to
become believers and understand
what he's talking about and notlet church attendance service
within our churches and thethings we do to keep our
churches.
Roland, take the place of whowe're calling created to be
because all those things areimportant because you want to
have a meeting place and bringpeople into sharpen, train and
equip.
So we're not against thosethings, but let's not let those
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things take the place of knowinghim and who he is in us.
Good tidings of.
I'm just telling you, in mypersonal life as a pastor
involved with lots of people, Ihaven't perceived a lot of great
joy.
I've perceived a lot of peopletroubled by life.
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A lot of prayer requests.
I don't like the way they'retreating me.
Why is God letting them if heloved me?
How come?
And I see a lot of quandary anda lot of people almost dismayed.
That means you can't haveintimacy cause you don't see him
clear.
Your face gets veiled eventhough it's to be unveiled and
all of a sudden life is a loudervoice than his love.
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Come on.
That's just fair.
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I've heard countless
people say, well you don't know
what I've been through.
What about what he's beenthrough?
When does that ever matter?
When does what he's beenthrough?
Decide how you're doing insteadof what you've been through.
When does who he is determinewho I am.
Who?
Whoa.
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Look, I don't care.
I know I'm in a rural area.
I know I'm out here somewhereand I keep joking about it
because I still really don'tknow where I'm at.
I'm going to look on a map whenI go home and just make sure
you're here cause I'm somewhere.
But you understand this nomatter where you live, when you
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write the check for something,don't you believe what you're
purchasing is worth the price oryou wouldn't write the check,
aren't we two for one buffet?
All you can eat 50% off.
Don't you wait for the sale.
Us guys, when we go to buy thecar, we Kelley blue book to
thing, man, it's worth 11 fourand he's got ten eight on the
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window and you still offer himnine seven true
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[inaudible]
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and when you buy the
car, what do you believe that
what you paid for the car iswell worth what you received as
the purchase possession.
The price you paid is well worththe purchased possession.
No, I've never had, and I'm notmad about this, I'm puzzled by
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this.
I've never had a pastor,teacher, a Christian in my
entire life.
Tell me this until I saw it inthe word when I was 33 and was
saved at 33 he shed his bloodfor me and we make it all about
my sin instead of restoring myvalue and my purpose, and we
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think it's heresy to talk thatway because we have so taken the
identity of sin and how wefailed, and we think that's what
exalts him.
What exalts him is his abilityto see you pass that and know
that your life is worth more.
And if you don't receive thatconcept without you realizing
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it, life will always speaklouder than truth and you'll be
doing as good as it's going.
There's people in ministry,their identity is all wrapped up
in ministry.
What they do for the Lord is whothey are in the Lord.
It's a total lie.
Pastors, if their church ishappening, they're riding high.
If things aren't going good,they need prayer.
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Marriages.
If your spouse is going crazy onsomething, you're shook to the
core and say, uh, when does thisneed looked at and challenged
and say, I think I need deeper.
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I think I need rooted
and grounded in love and let's
stop letting things matter morethan what matters most.
Come on and be straight with me.
Nobody pays a high price fornothing as the bottom line of
what I'm trying to say.
And he shed the blood of his sonfor you.
How do you put a price tag onthat?
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How do you take a vile of theblood of the son of God and yard
sale it?
How do you put a price on theblood of the son of God?
It's freaks me out to this day.
I'm not afraid to talk to you.
I freaked me out to this daythat God was so intent on
redeeming humanity that he'dbecome a man and fulfill what
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man failed to restore man backto why he's here.
And if we're not careful, we'llmiss interpret it and naked
about him taking care of usinstead of transforming us.
And then you have discouragedChristians that go to church and
they have reasons why and all ofa sudden we're not even living
for that day.
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The moment's deciding us.
And you're only as good as it'sgoing and the whole time he
slowered don't you let thathappen to you?
Nobody pays a high price fornothing.
Jesus had Holy spirit put himinside.
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Who's around 14 here.
14 yeah, a girl.
I'm sorry.
No thanks guys.
Girl.
Okay.
Theology.
History.
I don't know it to be true.
Suggests that Mary could havebeen as young as 14
Speaker 4 (25:29):
but probably not
older than 16 could you stand up
for me?
14 years old.
Isn't she precious?
Give her a hand.
Thanks.
14 Holy spirit.
Could you picture this?
I don't know how it went down.
Slain before the foundation ofthe world.
This thing is all planned out,man.
He wants to redeem humanity.
He has a family called people weteach.
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He's got smoke coming out of hisnose and he's ready to smoke.
You know he had a lamb slainbefore it started.
You got Mary over here lookingso precious.
Oh Jesus.
You ready?
See your father.
I know you'll be with me.
I'm going to go by faith.
I trust it.
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Yeah.
Okay.
Holy spirit is going to takeyou.
I don't know what it lookedlike.
How does the son of God turninto a little fetus?
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Fascinates me to this
day.
I'm not going to get over it.
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That God would do
something so extreme because he
had to come as a man and fulfillwhat man failed and fulfilled
the law of righteousness byfulfilling the law.
That's why he said not one jotor tittle, not one.
Nothing will be taken from thislaw.
I didn't come to remove it.
I came fulfill it.
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So as a man, he did everythingto a T that we've all failed in
and then he got killed for beingperfect, called guilty.
And now guilty men come throughhis blood to be made clean.
Yes, I'm excited and I'm notgonna try to calm down.
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He believes your life and mylife is so worth redeeming that
he would put himself inside thewomb of a woman.
Sit there for nine months andCrock-Pot like in nine months,
like you're a little boy, you'reterming upon it.
You better be soon Lord Jesus,nine months and all the sudden
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he comes through Perth canal,the son of the living God.
He must
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be serious about what
he still in and we are to make
sure we don't miss the point andturn it into an Easter story or
a sentimental Christmas thingthat's understand that he
believes his life given his withyours be stored and honestly get
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mad if you Mia, if you choose,you find very little scripture
that makes heaven the goal.
It's not the goal.
Transformation's the goal.
He didn't die to take you toheaven.
He died to get heaven back intoyou.
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What's the big deal?
If we're all going to heaven andwe still got issues with one
another and we can't even eat inpeace and we can't even agree to
the point of anger like wedisagree and now we're issues
and we fight and we don't evenwant to talk and you're deceived
and you're a hypocrite.
Well you're not going ahead andI am.
You're not.
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I've seen him a whole Christianlife.
It's tragic and when you dothat, you reveal.
You don't know him like youthink because he ain't doing
that.
When everybody's wrong, he'sgoing into the womb of a woman
when everybody's wrong.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You think he did that
so we can get theological and
over principles argue to thepoint of disdain.
I don't think that's his goal.
Everybody is wrong and he putshimself in maybe a 14 year old
girl.
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That's incredible.
Watch this.
Bear with me please.
He must think a lot of whatyou're created to be and what's
possible by his spirit.
He must think a lot about whatyou can look like when you're
yielded and surrendered.
He must think putting lightinside of you is worth it.
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He must think putting his waysinside of you is worth it.
He must or he's very lonely andneeds a friend desperately.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I don't think that's
the case.
See, even the childrenunderstand that brings a giggle.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
It's amazing how
innocent kids are.
I've had more fun than anybodyknows this weekend looking into
the faces of these kids.
They just sitting there hangingon everywhere.
Adults struggle sometimes likecrazy and kids go, yeah, I was
in a church one night.
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True story.
I just got, I just went crazy.
Just preached and forgot.
There was time and I waspreaching for two hours and 45
minutes and I don't rememberbreathing and all of a sudden I
looked at the clock and it was2211 and I went, Whoa, what
Speaker 4 (31:03):
that Clark was one of
them.
Cafeteria clocks, big white facewith the black letters.
You can't miss it.
It's the old cafeteria schoolclocks there.
They're big for a reason.
Boop, you.
I thought the sound men took itdown thinking we don't want him
worrying about time and thenthought, Hey, they're saying
funny and put it back up becauseI'm preaching all night.
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Two hours and 45 minutes.
I'm just, I told two passionatestories that were personal.
People were weeping on the edgeof sea and all.
It was like time was standingstill.
What was funny at the end, youknow it's God.
You can hardly tell the storyand expect people to relate
because you weren't there.
But people didn't even know ifit was an hour
Speaker 6 (31:45):
and, and I looked at
the clock and I went, Oh, is
that the time?
And people went time, huh?
And then you could hear therumble.
Oh robe.
Like what the pastor said, youhave by far set the preaching
record of our church and Ibelieve it was scanned.
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I said, not if you have me back.
I looked up and I says at thetime, and there's rumble, and I
went, Oh my goodness, I'm sosorry.
I said, I have to stop.
A seven year old girl sittingright here, leap to her feet
distressed and said, no.
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I said, no, no honey, it's 20till 11 I think.
Bridging for two hours and 45minutes.
The guy sitting here said threehours in six minutes.
I have it recorded on my cellphone.
Oops.
Technology.
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So yeah, out.
Every time we got validation inthree hours, six minutes, I
gotta.
I said, how old are you?
She said, seven.
I said, how many you?
Seven years old.
I preached for three hours andsix minutes according to this
man, he's gone.
I said, you should be tappingyour mom saying, is this guy
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ever going to stop?
I would like to go home here.
At some point she said, Oh itmade me weep.
She said, Oh no sir, I get somuch out of what you say seven
years.
Oh and here we are so wise causewe live our life and a seven
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year old has no problem hearingcause it doesn't have to come
through nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Seven high kid.
So much.
How do what you say?
And I said, Oh my goodness,serious.
She went, I said, huh, I thinkI'm going to keep on preaching.
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And she did some kind of woowoo.
You know, whatever thing theydo, she did something.
I ain't got no soul rhythm butshe did it and I said, no, no,
I'm just kidding.
And she went and then she satdown.
She was such a character.
Next morning I come into church,she can run in and said hi.
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I said, hi sweetie.
Oh my goodness, you blessed myheart.
She said, she said, you know,seven years home.
She said, wow.
She acknowledged her Sundayschool class.
She said, you know nothingagainst my Sunday school class
or my teacher.
I really like it, but I don'twant to go this morning.
I said, no.
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She said, mom, I stay up here,listen to you.
So I got to teach her.
Her parents would haveappreciated if they hurt me.
I said, okay, well let me tellyou what you do.
Get your mom and dad togetherand tell them your heart.
Ask him, tell him your request.
But here's what you have tounderstand, honey, at seven
years old, whenever you put yourparents in a position to decide
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you can't settle on your desire,you have to settle on their
call.
So if they don't tell you whatyou want to hear, don't you go,
Oh, but you say, okay guys,thank you.
That's called honoring yourmother and your father.
And she looked at me and went,and she took off.
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I thought, what a preciouslittle girl.
So I'm up there preaching in themorning and I look, and there
she is.
So she must stick out theinstead of, but you know how we
do kids.
Mom, can I dad, can I wellhoney, Oh, probably not cool.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (35:58):
the way you honor
your mother and father, if you
put them in a position wherethey have to answer, you have to
honor their answer.
Period.
That's called honor.
That's called love.
Yeah.
Can I share a little side noteabout the girl's momma?
I held him there three hours andsix minutes.
I said this, pray for the sickand we have time.
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We already here, we alreadyblown up the night.
You want to go for it.
And they said, yeah, uh,probably get a little touchy
with the armless and maybe, Idon't know, but she was hurting
the car wreck and she was reallyhurt for 15 years, 15 years.
She was in mobile and areas andcouldn't do things.
(36:39):
And we watched her body changeand I watched her lay on the
floor for well over a half hourand sob and cry because she knew
this was a different body thanshe carried around for 15 years,
which is real.
It cost her.
And it probably wasn't fun, butGod changed her that night and
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that little girl said, my mom, Isee Yoda and she's got, the girl
came up and told me the wholestory.
It was a car wreck.
15 years, man, I read my Bible18 years.
I read my Bible, 12 years.
I read my Bible, 38 years.
We're not denying that it wasn'treal for man.
God came and changed that thing.
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That's what he did for that mamaof that little seven year old
girl.
It astounded me and you canpreach for three hours and six
minutes and she leaped to ourfeet in front of everybody and
go, no dots, dots.
If you're not careful thinking,what ever would he ever just
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stop?
I don't want to be rude, but I'mabout to just go seven years
old.
It just blessed heart.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I want you to see
something in Roman six going
into this baptism here for hereat the end.
Romans five Paul makes a commentand you have to understand it's
one big letter.
It's not chapters way.
For some reason we put chaptersin there, but just read it as
one big letter cause it's oneletter.
It's just a letter so you don'tread it out of context.
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One of the biggest mistakesteachers, us teachers and
pastors and preachers and Biblestudy leaders make is we jump in
and read scripture out ofcontext.
Well we'll start with it.
Therefore not even know whatit's there for.
Seriously, that's not a joke.
That therefore means in light ofI just said.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
So if you don't read
it in light of what was just
said, you might miss read whatyou read.
Some of these things that peoplecall courts out there and things
and movements and they knock onyour doors and push the envelope
of that stuff.
And they have the little plantpamphlets.
If you don't know the word, youread it, there's a power there.
It's like a mesmerizing, likewow, cause it makes sense.
(38:59):
Scripture, bam, bam, bam.
And it's designed to grab youand wow.
But if you know the word, you'llsee what they're doing.
They're taking five scripturesfrom five places, piecing them
together to make a statementthat in their own context,
they're not saying,
Speaker 3 (39:15):
yeah,
Speaker 2 (39:17):
like it wouldn't be
cool if you just took scripture
and pieced it to make scriptureout of pieces.
You know, and Jesus, hang onJudas, Judas hanged himself.
Go and do there.
Likewise, that wouldn't be good.
I'm just having fun with yourlight.
Now I had some people in ourchurch get a hold of some of his
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stuff and they came crying.
They said, you gotta help us.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
And
Speaker 2 (39:48):
they were reading
this pamphlet and I showed them
where they just took everythingout of the context.
I had a man at my front door.
I said, man, I'm glad you'rehere.
Nobody know I've got nothing butlove for you.
I care for you.
I said, talk to me a little.
What?
Why are you here?
Well, and he shared me.
He's giving me his pamphlet,something we call movement out
there.
Circles.
We, most people say hairs arecalled.
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Well, he's a real guy and oneday he's going to stand before
Jesus.
He's not an offense to me.
I don't have one thing in myheart that dislikes him.
Not one thing in my heart.
If I had something in my heartthat dislikes him, I'm concerned
about my heart.
Hello.
Don't get so used to firstimpressions that you think are
God.
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You don't read a book by thecover.
That's why you never lookeddeeper into the chapters of a
person's life because youalready judged them by the
cover.
The Bible says, don't judgewithout word appearance.
Judge with righteous judgment.
See a man for what he can be,what he's created to be.
Go deeper and pull out the valuein every person who's ever dug
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for a precious gem or stone anddidn't get dirty on the way in
there.
Had to move some dirt to getthere.
Yeah, come on.
This stuff is simple, man.
Be careful.
You know the Bible says avoidthe appearance of evil.
You know why the Bible saysthat?
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If it's just the appearance ofevil, why do you have to avoid
it if it's not evil in itself?
Why do you have to avoid theappearance of evil?
Because men will think evil.
And guess what love does thinksno evil.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
So God is so humble,
doesn't want us to stumble in
those.
What we'll do, rather than beperfected in love, we'll think
evil, see said, Hey guys, justavoid the appearance of evil.
I don't want you to be astumbling block.
Men, the only reason he tellsyou to avoid the appearance of
evil, because men will thinkevil and love, thinks no evil.
Go on.
This stuff is, it's not rocketscience.
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It's so simple.
And we've almost all beentrained to live that way because
it's the way we've always been.
We just think it's normal, butit doesn't produce life.
It's always at the expense ofothers.
So it can't be truth.
This young man's on my porch andhe showed me his pamphlet.
I've spent some time in theword.
I'm not being arrogant.
I've spent some time inscripture.
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I, I don't need to have it rightin front of me.
I've got a lot of stuff in thefiles of my heart.
So when I read the scriptures,he didn't have where they're
taken behind him.
I just happened to know and Isaid, you know what's amazing
about this pamphlet?
He said, what?
He's very young man.
It was two of them.
And I said, you pooed well youdidn't but your believe in this
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but you don't realize whoeverwrote this, pulled this
scripture out of this chapterand before this it says this and
this is what it says.
And then you piece this one inthere and in its original
context, what it says is this,and I quoted like two, three
verses and they're looking and Isaid, and they pulled those five
scriptures, paste them to make astatement that apart from each
(42:54):
other, they're not making it alland you're going, wow, makes
sense.
But it's not the word.
It's pieced together.
And they were like, Whoa.
And they didn't even know whatto do.
And they got nervous and I tendto get a little aggressive.
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I said, listen,
Speaker 6 (43:16):
you guys ain't even
sure what you believe.
Don't knock on anybody's storesto you.
Understand what you believe.
Don't go to my neighbors.
Don't hand them.
Don't go back and regroup man.
Look into what I'm telling youcause I can see you're
convicted.
Don't.
Okay.
Okay.
And then back on the porch, Iwent right over my rally.
I said, listen guys, I talked tohim halfway down the street, not
angry, just encouraging them torethink some of this stuff.
(43:39):
The next day I got senior eldersstanding on my porch,
Speaker 2 (43:45):
senior elders.
Hey guys.
Hey.
I said, man,[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (43:52):
and you're here.
I'd love to say I'm glad you'rehere because you're here to hear
what I shared with them boysand, and want to hear my heart.
But I said, honestly, I know whyyou're here.
Cause they were so shook whenthey got back.
You wanted to hear what I saidso you can better train them and
prepare them to not be shook bya fella like me.
And they looked down and kindagot nervous and I said, well why
(44:13):
are you here?
This is, this is talk.
Come on in.
I had him sit on my couch, wechat in.
You know what those boys werehumble enough to do.
He came to my home group onSaturday night and sat for the
whole thing and he saw a word ofknowledge.
They saw lady get healed, cry.
He saw a lot of things in myhunger and then they got up and
(44:34):
said, we got to go.
And I said, awesome.
I'm just glad you came.
Thanks for your or you huggedthem real bag.
They are not my enemy.
I have nothing but love forthose guys.
I'd like to tell you that theykept common or we talked
further.
No, I never saw them again.
But this is kind of ironic.
I still live in the same home.
(44:55):
I have never since that day,seen one of those fellas on my
street.
Nobody from their church.
I don't know if I'm red Xed Idon't know.
But I see them on other streets.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You guys,
Speaker 6 (45:11):
they're never on my
street and not mad at him.
I got nothing for love but lovewith for him.
And it's almost like they didn'tknow what to do with me.
So as long as I'm living there,they just stay away.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong,but it's peculiar, but the five
scriptures, they're wholepamphlet is based on have
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nothing to do with scripturethat's written.
It has to do with them writingtheir own.
Are you with me?
Be real careful with that stuff.
You study, you show yourselfapproved.
You get in the word of God.
You understand that you can readthe word of God not to qualify.
You already qualified throughJesus.
(45:56):
You read the word of God to knowhim and to know truth and you
got one reason not tosubstantiate your upbringing,
your heritage and the churchyou're a part of.
You read the Bible to know him.
The screen you put on your eyedecides what you'll see, so if
you read to qualify things,that's what you'll see.
(46:18):
I know people that read theirBible to get out of their
marriage and they're sure theyfound the scriptures.
They didn't read to find out howto become love and how to not
give up hope and how to hold on.
They read to get out and they'resure they found the scriptures.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
Ain't that something?
The eye.
Jesus is so amazing.
The eye is the lamp of the body.
You can see what a man reallysees by how a man really lives.
If the eye is single, the wholebody is flooded with light.
(47:05):
It doesn't say unless of courseyour best friend just did you
Raul.
It says if you see clear, you'llbe clear.
The eye is the lamp of the body.
But if the eye isn't single, ifit's wide view lands.
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Yeah.
Well
Speaker 2 (47:30):
this says darkness
and crutches and says if the
watch should, it says if thelight, it's Matthew six 22 it's
Luke 1135 it's there.
You can check it's there perBedo.
I've read the book.
If the light in you is darkness,ain't that something sounds
(47:54):
perverted.
If the light in you is darkness,what'd you say?
And your creative for the light.
But if it's not light, it's darkand if it's dark it's cause your
eye doesn't see clear.
We think we have issues.
Maybe we don't have brightperspective.
Maybe your eyes not single.
Maybe we're wide view lens.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Oh my God.
If the light in you is darkness,it says, how great is that
darkness?
What she's saying?
Just up twisted as you view justhow off is your perspective,
which tells me it's so amazingthat if my perspective gets
changed by him, my life isalready changing.
(48:44):
Doesn't the Bible say if we seehim as he is, we'll be like him.
Wait, we can hardly talk aboutthat among us.
We talk about Jesus and peoplesay, yeah, but that was Jesus
Speaker 4 (48:56):
and all of a sudden
we make him a special man that's
unattainable to follow.
He doesn't even want you to dothat.
It's not.
He doesn't want you to make thema special man when you say,
yeah, but that was Jesus.
We missed the point.
No, that was love.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
That's what he called
you to
Speaker 3 (49:13):
[inaudible].
Speaker 2 (49:14):
You say, man, isn't
Jason me?
He's hanging in lacrosse.
He says, father, forgive what?
For?
Forgive them for they know notwhat they do.
And you see, man, isn't Jesussomething?
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
Well, we need to walk.
Yeah, but that was Jesus, man.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
That is not a
compliment to him.
He's going, you're missing thepoint.
It's not, Hey, that was Jesus.
That's love.
Yeah.
Could you picture Jesus carryingthe cross to go golf though?
He's beat beyond description.
You know that right?
You know Isaiah said that, thathe was marred more than any of
the sons of men.
That when they were done beatinghim, you couldn't tell who he
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was cause he was marred morethan anybody ever was.
Smart at the hands of men.
Do you know people who've donestatistic, barbaric things to
each other?
Do you know that people havemauled and, and, and tore up and
put your at each other?
Do you know that people haveburned people and drug people
for miles on chariots and burnedpeople in oil?
(50:10):
Do you know that when peoplewere done with people, you
couldn't tell if they were maleor female?
Do you know that?
Well, he was more and more
Speaker 2 (50:21):
the nanny was ever
marked.
Why did it have to be so brutal?
Why couldn't he just take 39stripes, a couple of stakes in
the hand and feet and shed alittle blood and pay for
humanity?
Speaker 6 (50:37):
Why?
Because he made us to besomething in the garden.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
And when sin got done
with Adam in the garden, he
didn't look nothing like it
Speaker 6 (50:46):
was created to be.
He had lost his appearance andlost his identity.
So Jesus had to come and losehis appearance to pay the price
to get the truth back on hispeople.
And you think, I believe that.
And today I got people issues.
And he said, she said, well, I'mheard.
(51:07):
Well why did you not todayfriend tomorrow isn't working
either.
I've been set free from myself.
Now I've got the best look atyou I've ever had and you're
worth the blood of his son
Speaker 2 (51:23):
marred more than any
of the sons of men.
So he ain't just carrying thecross.
He is beat beyond recognition.
And if you weren't therefollowing from the beginning,
you wouldn't even know who itis.
You put somebody in time to apole and put a bunch of words
underneath them and light thatthing on fire when the fire goes
out.
(51:43):
Can you tell if they're male orfemale marred more than we ought
to get serious about this?
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, we pray for the
sick and we think, Oh that's
just too simple, brother.
You can't, it can't be thatsimple.
It's not simple.
It cost him everything.
Cost him, everything can, canyou picture Jesus go to go gothy
speed beyond description.
They're spending on him.
They're spending on him.
They're kicking him.
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They're whacking him over andover.
He, he, they got to bring Simonin and help him cause he's
running out of gas.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah,
Speaker 2 (52:28):
but he's carrying
that thing cause it's his goal.
He didn't come to not die.
Don't think they had to forcehim on the cross and hold his
hands down and pin him.
Speaker 6 (52:40):
He laid on that thing
and let him do it.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Don't you think he
struggled?
He came to die on the cross.
Could you picture this?
Jesus getting halfway up theHill and analytical thinking
kicks in thinking like you and Ihave been tricked into thinking
and all of a sudden Jesus goes,this is crazy.
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And he drops the cross and thispassion hits him in this
supernatural pursuit of vigorcomes upon his marked body.
He says, you know what, God, I'mdone.
I ain't taken another step.
This is crazy.
What are we doing?
They don't love us.
They don't love
Speaker 4 (53:26):
me.
How much good does a man have todo man, if they didn't change by
now, they ain't gonna change.
Look to me.
Look what they've done to me.
Are you kidding me?
Get killed the man I raised thedead did causes conspiracy.
I'm trying to make peace andthey want to do this to me.
No, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
See you say he can't
do that.
He couldn't say that cause he'sJesus.
No, he couldn't say that causehe's love.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Hey man.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Not cause he's Jesus
Emmanuel, God with us.
Cause he's love.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
[inaudible].
Speaker 6 (54:06):
What makes God so
amazing to me is that he's like
no other, he slough.
He ain't some wicked being thatonce all power to rule the
world.
He has all power and he gave hislife to give us life cry.
Love Jesus for that.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I've heard pastor say
in my life, well what proves
that he loves us as he stayed onthat cross, he could have come
down if he wanted, but he stay.
How could he come down?
There's no turning or shiftingof shadow.
Love doesn't fail.
He's not sitting there changinghis mind.
Yeah, but he said, father, ifthere's any other way, take this
cup from me.
(54:49):
What she's saying, if there'sany other way than taking the
beating of every man upon myselfand going through this, if
there's any other way toaccomplish what we're doing,
man, talk to me.
But if not, we're here.
That's do it.
Speaker 6 (55:08):
He's not second
guessing.
There's no way he could come offthe cross because will never
change his mind because he knowsyou from the beginning and you
and you and you.
Before he were known, he saw youand predestined you before time.
Are you okay?
(55:28):
Sorry, I'm a little fired upright now.
I just, he came into a 14 yearold girl scout be fired up.
That is radical that God wouldput himself in a woman,
Speaker 2 (55:44):
that she would run to
tell Elizabeth and John when
Speaker 6 (55:51):
in her womb when she
heard, when he heard Mary's
voice.
As soon as you spoke to Bettywith him, he leaped.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
What's he doing in
there?
Sure is powerful.
He's probably saying, Hey,because
Speaker 6 (56:12):
cousins, he said, me,
baptize you.
It's you that honor.
Baptize me.
He said, permit it now John.
So all righteousness shall be,and John baptized him, brought
him out of the water and whathappened?
Who knows what happened?
(56:35):
Who Holy spirit came upon himlike a dove and rested upon him
if he came as God.
Holy Spirit's already on him.
If he comes as a man, he needsempowered.
We miss it all the time.
We feel like we're defamingJesus and stealing his deity
(56:56):
first.
John four says, the barometer oftesting his spirit and knowing
whether it's from God or not, isif it fails to acknowledge Jesus
coming in the flesh.
Why?
Because the spirit doesn't wantyou to see the benefit of that
and ever reap the fruit of whathe accomplished.
(57:16):
So he'd rather be as contentjust arguing over theology
instead of living withtransformed lives.
And all of a sudden our opinionsbecome God and of the Lord.
[inaudible] sister of the aroundis so much that it makes you
want to cry because it doesn'thave to be that way.
(57:38):
And you're the one that decidesif it's going to be.
You have to decide what you dowith this gospel.
I'm trying to finish home prettyemotional right now.
At the end of Romans five hesays, where sin abounded, grace
abounded much more so that assin reigned in death, even so
(58:03):
grace might reign throughrighteousness to eternal life
through Jesus Christ, our Lord.
That tells you a knee that we'reliving toward that day.
We're living toward that day, soyou can't let today decide that
day you got to live every dayknowing it's taking you to that
(58:26):
day.
Speaker 4 (58:27):
You can't let what
you're going through decide who
you are and how you're, what hewent through is the truth about
you.
You can't honestly watch this.
There's no way around physicalloss.
True.
Is it real?
Yeah, but you can't even letphysical loss hinder the
momentum of why he's in you andwhy you're here.
It's assigned to people.
(58:49):
He said, you don't grieve as ifyou have no hope.
You have eternal life.
It's never about death.
It's always about life.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (58:57):
He said, unless you
love less, the thing's most dear
to you.
And he reads off the list, youby no means me that may pay my
disciple.
And a lot of Christians becomeChristians for the wellbeing of
that list.
And he said, unless you lovethat list last, you'll never do
what you're here for.
Cause something on that list ofdistract you and you'll get hurt
or for Lauren are confused andyour back off and draw back.
(59:21):
You grow weary and well do.
Speaker 6 (59:25):
You'll let adversity
become your truth.
Sin reigned in death.
Well then sentient right nowbecause we have life.
Yeah,
Speaker 4 (59:44):
come on man.
Don't you fight with that?
There's so much scripture oncethis first Peter two he bore
your sin and my sin in his bodyon the tree that we having died
to sin might live inrighteousness.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
[inaudible]
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Oh that one gets
people fired up.
Well, we're always going to sitand brother, what are you
saying?
We never said, we always saidand we can't get off the sin
topic and declare righteousnessso that we can walk free as
possible and let grace have itsway.
And all of a sudden we'reboasting in our ability to sit
and Cohen humility and he mightbe calling it unbelief.
Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
[inaudible]
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
he died on a cross
bearing your sin and my sin in
his body on the tree.
Where's your sin and my sin thatwe having died to sin?
What's that mean?
It's identity.
It's staying.
It's staying.
It's desire.
It's impulse
Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
stop in marked by it.
How can you be righteous and sinat the same time?
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
If he forgave you of
all sin first John one and
cleansed you of allunrighteousness, how can you be
unrighteous?
Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
It's so simple.
Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
We just get tricked
into thinking we are where we've
been.
Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
So we say, Oh, you
dummy.
We talk to herself.
Oh, you dummy.
Oh, you're so stupid.
Oh, you'll never get it.
Oh, what a jerk.
You are such a jerk.
Who knows?
I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
All of a sudden you
fail in something and guess
what?
You label yourself as a failureand guess what?
You believe you are in themorning a failure and all of a
sudden you don't even have asense of repentance.
You have a descent ofcondemnation and now you are
what you did and you gotdistracted from what he did.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
You're not even sure
how to truly be sorry and
repentant.
Let truth change you.
So use Mark yourself as afailure and then condemnation
and her in.
Next thing you know, you'velived two months and haven't
even prayed or had intimacy withGod cause you've marked yourself
apart from what he's donebecause what you've done is the
real Yale and you think it'struth because you did it, but
your heart's grieved, whichmeans it's not who you are or
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who you want to be.
It's the mistake you made andGod can grow you up and out of
that thing if you keep your eyeson him.
Adam ran random.
Put fig leaves on and hide fromGod has is not the answer.
We should know that by now.
God came and said, what are you
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
doing?
Took off the fig leaves anddressed him himself with his own
hands, made clothes and animalsskins.
Of course he had to shed bloodto get those skins in.
It's blood covenant, but it'salso righteousness.
He wrote them.
Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
If they woke up and
fig leaves every day, what are
they conscious of the day theymissed it?
If they wake up in those animalskins, what are they thinking of
the day God forgave us and gaveus a promise what a father we
have, and no matter how bad wemissed it, he has remained the
same.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
He might be my
favorite.
I shouldn't have a favorite, butman, he's right there.
What shall we say?
Then since sin abounds, graceabounds even more in as sin
reigned in death even so gracewould reign through
righteousness.
You have to understand thatgrace isn't an enablement for
you to stay.
The same.
Grace is empowerment for you tobe changed
Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
[inaudible]
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
don't misunderstand
grace and make it what it's not
and don't get mad at grace andswing over here and get
hardcore.
It's always about grace.
You're saved by grace.
You are what you are by thegrace of God.
Without grace, you don't have agospel.
So just because men miss preachit, don't react.
Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
Don't swing a
pendulum.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
There's people that
say, Oh, well, they say, Oh man,
did I mess up and really give mywife a mouth this morning?
I really unloaded on her.
Thank God for the grace of God.
No, the grace of God keeps you
Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
blowing up.
Doesn't excuse you for blowingup.
You're talking about mercy.
Grace empowers you to change.
So if you preach grace apartfrom transformation, you'll
preach perversion.
People say, Oh, God just lovesme for who I am.
He loves you for what you'recreated to be and called to be.
Don't you forget that?
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Yeah, I didn't find a way to sinand get away with it.
I found a way to be free.
I'm about ready to read it.
We will never be free from sin.
You probably ought to believeyour Bible.
Yeah, he's got a blast.
Femur that's RI.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
What shall we say
then?
Shall we continue in sense ofgrace?
May abound, certainly notexclamation point.
How shall we who died to sinliving in any longer?
Here's my question.
Do we even understand what he'stalking about?
Have we even been told this?
Have we died to sin or did wejust pray a prayer to make sure
we go to heaven?
Are we sincere and see we needforgiveness and now we receive
him into our heart.
But yet we still sin consciousand think our ability to sin
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makes us sinners.
Now he said, how shall we whodied to sin living in any
longer?
So if I don't preach that aspectof the gospel, I'm not even
preaching the full gospel.
It's true.
Watch.
Here's how I know it's true.
How shall we who died to sinliving a longer watch or do you
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not know?
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Why is he saying
that?
Cause some people don't know.
Do you not know as many of uswho were baptized into Christ
Jesus were baptized into hisdeath?
Well, what's his death?
We'll read on and find out.
But we were as many in Christbaptized into his death.
Therefore, because this is true,we were buried with him through
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baptism into death.
This water is symbolic of thedeath, burial, and resurrection
of Jesus.
We're not sprinkling them.
We're putting them under whyJesus went into the tomb and
they rolled the stone over thetomb on his resurrection day.
What the angel Dew rolled thestone away and that mighty Holy
spirit, according to the spiritof holiness, Rose Jesus from the
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dead.
Ain't that also?
Yeah.
Okay, so he died was buried andRose again.
We all get that watch.
We're buried in baptism intodeath.
That just as Christ, just asjust as you find me, a
limitation just as Christ wasraised from the dead by the
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glory of the father, even so weshould walk in the newness of
life.
This is amazing guys.
Four, if we've been Unitedtogether in the likeness of his
death, that's the third time hesaid it in three sentences, the
baptized in the likeness of hisdeath.
That's find out what it means.
Certainly we shall be in thelikeness of his, so it's not
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just about dying.
It's about living.
Whoa, this is amazing.
Watch this.
Knowing this second time, youbetter know.
Second time already, you betterknow.
Knowing this that our old manwas crucified with him when he
died.
I died when he Rose.
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I Rose with him.
That's what they says.
Yay.
Watch knowing this, that our oldman was crucified with him, that
the body of sin might be doneaway with that we should no
longer be slaves of sin.
Slaves.
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I looked up the word slaves.
That means bound and chained toserve its will and testimony you
that some people in an attemptto be humble, bind and chain
themselves to a testimony thatJesus took off of them.
It's not a sin consciousnessthat reforms and changes your
life.
It's a righteous consciousness.
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It says, if you're righteous inyour understanding, it'll
produce a fruit called holinesswithout you trying to be Holy.
That's called grace and he getsall the glory.
Wow.
Watch this.
Knowing this head head that thebody of sin would be done away
with.
We no longer be a slave to sin.
Now watch him.
Verse seven this is amazing.
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See, I'm not sure we've beentaught this.
All of us.
I, I think some of us had justprayed a prayer to go to.
We just see our need
Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
for forgiveness in
that.
So, okay.
But I don't know that we gotthis for he who has
Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
die,
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
he who is understood
that I died to who I was so I
could live in who he's createdme to be in called me to be what
he who has died has been
Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
freed from sin.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
you might have a
translation.
It says cleared from sin.
They mean the same Azat thing.
Freed and cleared.
Same.
Justified literally means justas if you've never sin too.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Now, if we died with
Christ, we believe we shall also
live with him.
So tonight, Esther, you're notjust dying, kiddo.
You're coming up in a statementthat I'm alive in him.
These kids, Oh my goodness.
Knowing third time, you betterknow that Christ having been
raised from the dead dies, nomore death, has no dominion over
him.
Now here's the death we'rebaptized into.
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He explains it.
Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
Verse 10 for he the
death that he died, he died to
sin once for all but the lifethat he lives, he lives too.
Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
God, look at verse 11
likewise.
Oh, you also in yourself to bedead indeed to sin but alive to
God
Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
in Christ Jesus, our
Lord.
Nobody ever taught me that in mylife.
They taught me I was alwaysgoing to sin.
I'm damned to sin.
They made it sound like I wasconstantly in a state of sin,
but at least he paid the priceto forgive me.
So they left me a forgivensinner and I can't find that
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anywhere in the Bible.
And, and I've read it many times
Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
[inaudible]
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
so what have we done?
We've taken our own actions todefine truth
Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
and we haven't put
faith in what he's able to do
through his grace.
And all of a sudden if a manstarts talking like this, we can
hardly hear what he's sayingcause we're saying is he saying
he's perfect when she trying tosay he doesn't send, I'm saying
I don't even think about it.
I think about righteousness inChrist, in me and land on my
life.
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And if I would bump intosomething called human weakness,
I turn and run to him and saythank you, I am more than that
thing.
And that is not who I everdesire and you and God and thank
you.
And all of a sudden I'm closerand communion through it than I
ever would be if it wouldn'thave come first.
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John says, little children, Iwrite this things to you so you
do not sin.
Watch, but
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
you got it.
He didn't say, but when you do,
Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
but if you do, why?
Cause he just separated you inchapter one from the
consciousness of sin.
And he said, I write thesethings so you do not sin because
I changed your consciousness torighteousness and it empowers
you.
But if you do, don't bedisheartened.
Don't get condemned on turnwhere, don't draw back.
You have an advocate.
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He's Jesus.
The writers and his righteousplea will find mercy before God,
and not just for your sense, buta sins of the whole world.
Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Doesn't he say that
we're ambassadors to Christ,
that God came through Christ,reconciling the world to
himself, not imputing theirtrust passes against them.
And then he tells us to be thesame towards men and reconcile
them to God.
What's that mean?
Hey, your sins fine.
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God's winking it away.
It doesn't matter.
He loves January.
No, you're more than that.
You're more than sin in theflesh.
You're more than those desires.
You have a calling and a destinyin the spirit of God wants to
come and live inside of you.
He wants to push selfishnessaside so Christ can reign in
your life.
You're so much
Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
more than what you've
understood.
That's called the gospel.
Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
So you're not going
to let sin reign in your mortal
body, so you should have baredin its lust and do not present
your members as instruments ofunrighteousness to sin, but
present yourselves to God asbeing alive from the dead.
Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
I'm not sure people
are living this way.
I've talked to a lot of peoplein my life.
I ask a lot of questions when Icounsel, I have found a large
percent in the 90s say they havenever said to God when they're
alone.
Initiator her father, thank youfor loving me.
I so appreciate you washing me,cleansing me, purifying my life,
seeing me apart from sin.
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Thank you for righteousness.
They said, well, no, I neverprayed that way.
I don't even think that way.
I'm just trying to do betterman.
Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
And then they're sure
they're failing.
So now they don't have a goodview of themselves.
So they feel unworthy.
So they don't approach him causethey don't know how he sees them
cause they don't see them good.
Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
And now they can't
even have relationship even
though they have the heart tale.
That's called deception.
People, I've counseled a lot offolks spend a lot of time one on
one and I found very few peoplein my life that have that
relationship where they wake upand present themselves as
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members onto God, righteous inhis sight, pure and clean and
washed and free son.
If you wake up and believe yourson washed in the blood, guess
what?
Your life will start lookinglike ship.
And people are, some people say,well I don't know who he thinks
he is.
He acts so self-righteous.
Well he's so proud.
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Well he must think he's holierthan that.
That's what people will saysometimes.
And the truth is, you just seewho you've become through what
he paid.
And you're not trying to makethat statement at all.
Their insecurity is interpretingthat their own on the leaf is
interpreting that because inyour heart you're in love and
you just spank him for what he'sdone and the goodness of God as
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changed your heart.
Yeah.
That's what happens man.
You wake up and believe yourson.
Guess what your life will looklike.
Sun chip.
I like it.
You know why I do that?
Cause they just might believe itand if they don't, we've lost
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nothing.
But if you don't, so theynothing gonna grow.
Hey, no farmer ever looked outthe window.
Hey Mildred, I dunno where thecorn is, girl.
And I ain't no call or Henryaren't even.
Remember you getting on thetractor side.
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I don't remember Utila no groundput.
No say well how I'm just believe
Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Henry.
Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
See time and harvest
time for slow in your Bible if
you don't.
So Hey, nothing gone girl.
Now get on that tractor, boy.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
People say, why won't
my city to change?
I want my community to change.
I wish my family would change.
How is Moscow would change?
How?
We'll start sewing into it.
Don't complain about it.
Shine a light so into it.
If you don't sow into yourcommunity, why would you expect
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a harvest from the Lord?
Because you prayed in interceded.
They go hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
If you love your
city, you're so into her.
The kingdom of God is if a manscattered seat, it doesn't say
the kingdom of God is if a manin her seats, intersession and
sowing seed are hand in hand.
If you love your city, you're sointo your city.
If you really love your family,you'll wake up to reveal who
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Christ is to them, not take thempersonal and fight back.
If you really you and I justlove them.
That's why I'm so hurt.
No, you're so hurt because youneed to be loved by them.
Get it straight.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Don't present your
members as instruments of
righteousness to sin and topresent yourselves to God as
being alive from the dead everyday you wake up, father, thank
you for another day and yourmembers, his instruments to
righteousness, to God for sins,not going to have dominion over
you cause you're not under thelaw.
You're under grace.
Oh, what shall we say then?
Just sin because we're under,not under the law, but under.
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No, we already settled that.
Do you not know that whom youpresent yourself a slave to obey
who you believe you are?
He is the very thing that youobey is going to be what you
serve, right?
That's what he's saying.
Whatever you present yourself asslave to obey.
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You are that one slave whom youobey, whether it's sin leading
to death or obedience, leadingthe righteousness, but God be
thanked that though you were aslave to sin, yet you obeyed
from the heart this form ofdoctrine to which you were
delivered.
Do you know people live theirwhole life in church and never
get this doctrine
Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
their whole life in
church and never get this
doctrine.
That was me.
I was 20 I quit going to churchbecause I was just to forgive
and sinner and it broke my heartcause I felt like there was no
way I could change and I'd watchan Easter story and see Jesus
beaten and broken and I wouldcry on the inside because I felt
like I had no ability or powerto change how I look and I
actually believed he died for meand I felt like I was so far
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from where fat and I couldn't doanything about it and nobody was
telling me that I could bechanged.
They were telling me what Ishould and shouldn't do.
They weren't telling me how toget there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
two farmer friends
comes over.
I'll just use Henry again.
Hey Henry, I heard you became aChristian Ash rye.
I'm a Christian.
Well what makes you a Christian?
Don't drink, don't smoke and Idon't run with the women.
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Well then I guess mom, use aChristian
Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
Christian is and what
you do and don't do a Christian
is what you become and yourbeing decides you're doing.
Yeah, watch this.
You know them by their fruits.
We always say that one, a goodtree can't bear
Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
but a bad tree can't
bear.
So Jesus comes and says, a goodtree can't bear bad fruit.
Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
And everybody
instantly becomes a fruit
inspector
Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
dry
Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
and goes.
They started vowing you waitingtheir own lives and when that
looks so ugly they look at theirneighbors lives.
Well I ain't the only bad Applein the orchard brother.
A good tree can't there.
Wow.
People freak out.
They find a bad fruit and say,well then I can't be a good
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tree.
Cause that's what he said.
But then he says, a bad treecan't there?
And then you go, wait a minutethough.
Not everything in my life as athrowaway, I've received changes
areas in my life where I'm notthe same.
Not everything is just bustedup.
I see this bad thing.
I see this thing I've ignoredbut Oh my goodness, I got a lot
of change in my life.
I don't know what he's saying.
A good tree can't bear bad fruitbut a bad tree can't bear good
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fruit.
I feel like I got both of themon my tree.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Okay,
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
he says therefore you
know them by the fruits.
But actually in that section hesays in Matthew he says, so make
a tree
Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
good
Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
and its fruit will be
make a tree and its fruit will
be.
What's he talking about?
He's not talking about fruit thewhole time he's talking about
tree.
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The fruits like a secondary,what is it called?
The pronoun helped me.
I'm not an English teacher.
What's the main noun in thesentence he's taught the whole
time.
He's talking about tree and allwe hear is fruit.
What's he saying?
If you know who you are, yourlife will reveal it.
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And if people tell you who youare, it will transform your
production.
It's only saying and we go, Ohtry harder.
Why?
Cause we're sincere.
Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Make a tree
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
and its fruit will be
make a tree and its fruit will
be what she's saying.
Did you ever see an Apple treesitting out there?
Gone.
Paul, come on.
No poop.
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Oh, ah, I knew I was going up.
What's three?
Oh whew.
Why does an Apple tree producean Apple?
This isn't rocket science.
Don't get too smart for thisstuff.
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Why does an Apple produce orlaboratory producing Apple cause
its own Apple tree?
Guess when it was an Apple
Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
in the seed?
Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Okay,
Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
so if you don't know
who you are, you'll try to prove
it through your works.
But if you know who you are,your life over a veal it and
your fruit will define what yousee.
It's thing is not complicated.
Did you ever see an Apple treesitting out there going, Oh, and
then looking to see if the otherapples were brighter, bigger,
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shinier.
Apple tree, let's see.
Dies and foster.
The ground abides alone.
Do you know what?
Jesus was a seed and hereproduced this after.
So you got this thing called theenemy on the earth and he's the
devil and he's real in theBible, talks about him and were
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not promoting him and we're nothonoring him or just not unaware
of him or ignorant to himbecause he's not dumb.
Like people think he's actuallyvery smart and he sure he
understands you and he honestlydoesn't, even if you really read
scripture, he doesn't evenbelieve you love God.
He just thinks you need God andthere's a difference.
He's out to prove it.
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You better make sure he's notright.
Yeah.
So he gets onto this thing andhe says, Hmm, God made man on
the earth to live inside of themand manifest through them and
cover the earth with his glory.
So God's out to reproducehimself through his people and
manifest himself on the earth.
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I know what I'll do.
I'll trick them out, deceivethem, they'll follow me instead
of him.
I'll sit on the highest throneand I'll be God.
So he loves when he can trickpeople into looking like him.
When they were made for theSimon tude of God.
He feeds on it when you'reangry, he loves that.
When you're offended andfrustrated and judgmental and
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presumptuous and proud, he lovesit.
Why?
Because he feels like he'swinning cause he's reproducing
who he is through people made inthe Simon tude of God.
He loves when you throw a fit ofrage and anger and then go to
church and Holy hush and nevercan express nothing in the Lord,
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but you let somebody pull out infront of you and all of a sudden
you have this charismaticworship service,
Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
[inaudible]
Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
of the wrong one.
Oh, this is real.
The Lord spoke to me 23 and ahalf years ago.
I'm 24 years saved.
He said, don't you give yourselfto these things?
It's a twisted expression ofworship of the wrong one.
He loves to try to make you looklike him cause you're may for my
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image.
I heard it in my heart readingmy Bible cry, got prostrate
before the Lord and begin toempty myself and stood up and
put on Christ.
Like the scripture says, tendermercies, loving kindness, peace
making gentleness for parents.
Speaker 7 (01:26:16):
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Christianity.
Nothing else really is[inaudible].
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