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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
He wants transformation in our lives.
Like when you and I were born,we were born into something that
we weren't intended to be.
Jesus came to become that andhang on a tree so we could die
with him and raise with him inthe newness of life.
It's in Romans six is verypowerful.
So really in a nutshell, what Ipreached last night is the whole
goal of Christianity is becominglove.

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It's, it's not to make heavensomeday.
It's for heaven to come backinside of us.
So we can actually live in thespirit and, and walk and live in
the spirit of God.
And a lot of people have neverunderstood that.
And, and I've learned as he saidabout question and answers, I
thought, you know what?
I know this in my own life.
There was things I heard in mylife.
I heard because I heard it comefrom a certain source of certain

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people, people I was submittedto you.
You could hear something in alunch room and hear two people
talking and then you hear thatconversation come up a month
later and you don't know it tobe true.
You just heard it being talkedabout and you'll talk about it
like, you know, did you evernotice people do that?
And people do that about theLord a lot like we do.

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We're, we're notorious in thechurch for doing our Bible
studies and a lot of times allwe're doing is tossing doctrine
around and belief systems.
And we're saying what we believeand what we don't believe.
But if the thing doesn't havethe power to transform your life
and empower you to walk in truthand change you from the inside,
you're casting out of justanother human opinion.
It's another thought pattern.

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It's just another.
And I and I and I'm concernedand a lot of times that happens
in our lives where we reallydon't seek a viable relationship
with the Lord, where we actuallyget to know him through his
word, through prayer and by hisHoly spirit.
We actually let our Biblequotation, memorization and our
Bible speaking take the place ofour relationship and I hope I'm

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making sense.
You can, Oh, I'm good, buddy.
You can let the church youattend.
Take the place of knowing him.
It become the essence of yourChristianity.
Oh yeah, I'm a Christian.
I go to church.
Go into church isn't what makesyou a Christian.
Knowing him is what makes youChristian.
Christian is Christ likeness.
That's what it means.
Here's what Jesus said in John17 three he said, this is

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eternal life.
That you might know him.
The only true God, and I think,I don't know about where you
grew up in this area, but Ithink we miss what eternal life
is and we make it a prayer.
We pray so we can go to heavensome day when we die.
That's what we make eternallife.
That's, that's not even thestrong push of scripture.

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Scripture isn't making sureyou're safe and covered for the
day you die.
Christianity's all about nowthat you're alive.
It's all about Mark in thehearts of men with who he is.
It's all about leaving a legacyand so in seeds into people's
lives.
Are you following what I'msaying?
So Christianity is a wholedifferent thing than I grew up
till I was age 20.

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Uh, I didn't make the rightchoice.
I stopped going to church when Iwas around 20, cause I figured I
was old enough to make thatdecision.
It wasn't a good one.
Uh, I didn't have anunderstanding.
I didn't know what the gospelreally meant.
All I ever heard my whole lifewas he died on a cross cause
you're a sinner and you betterreceive him cause he's coming

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back some Dan, you better beready.
That was Christianity.
I was still the same man.
I had the same anger, samefrustration, same opinion, same
pride, same argument of hearts,same selfish self centered
thing.
Are you following me?
So nothing about the messageempowered my life to change.

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It just told me to believesomething to receive something
called everlasting life.
And I'm honestly, I'm, I'mconcerned and I'm on this topic
this morning, so I'm just gonnastay where I'm at.
I'm concerned that that'ssometimes where we start and
where we stop and it's just allabout believing on him to be

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covered for the day we die.
But we don't realize our wholelife is about between those two
markers.
Your whole life is about whatyou're doing in him every day.
It's about how you respond topeople, the message you send
through your life.
It's all about the life you'reliving, not the thing you're
believing.
What you actually believe willultimately be the life you're

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living.
In other words, you'll knowsomebody and what they really
believe by how they're livingtheir life.
You can tell what a man reallysees in his heart by the way he
conducts his life.
I think we think sometimes wedon't really meditate on this.
So we think sometimes withoutreally thinking about it, we're

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just going to stand before theLord someday and answer a
questionnaire or something.
You know, what'd you do withyour life?
He did this and this and this.
How many people did you tellabout me?
It's so, it's so worked.
So he ended, it's sonon-personal.
It's, it's not going to be likethat at all.
There's no questionnaire likeyour life lived reveals where

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you placed your heart and itreveals what you believed or
what you saw, what you didn'tsee.
It's your life live that revealsthe words of man speaks.
It says your heart is going tocome out of your mouth.
Out of the abundance of yourheart, your mouth will speak.
I've watched people talk aboutscripture a lot in my life and

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they're full of animosity.
They get ticked off quick.
They get contentious.
They, they wanna arguetheological truth.
It's like the last place I'llever care about with you.
I am not going there with you.
Like the last thing of my art isto sit and argue over scripture.
It's actually a dead giveawaythat we really don't know the
Lord.
We're just arguing about factslike he's not like that at all.

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I've learned that the Lord's notlike that at all.
Like he's very approachable.
I can go to him in prayer.
Hebrew says with an unveiledface, I can come boldly at
approach him, not arrogantly,boldly, confidently cause I know
he loves me through the death ofhis son.
A lot of people don't understandhow personally wants to be in,
how intimate he wants to be.
He says if eternal life isknowing him, the knowing him

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must be the point not knowingabout him.
There's a difference betweenknowing about the Lord, reading
your whole Bible and quoting itand knowing all the scriptures
and finishing them before thepreacher.
You can do that, not even knowthe Lord and you can let your
Bible knowledge take the placeof knowing him.
And all of a sudden you liveyour whole life with the
knowledge of the Lord without arevelation of the Lord coming

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through your life.
Listen, please.
Listen.
What's your name?
What is it?
Tobias.
I just found out his name.
We don't know each other at all.
I could be a neighbor to Tobias.
I could live down the street andsee him ride his bike.
I could see him running aroundwith some youngsters.
I might meet his mom and dad andI might learn about him a

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little.
I might get some facts on himand, and after time I might be
able to see, Oh yeah, Tobias.
I know him and I might tell youtwo or three facts I've learned
along the way, but until I hangout with him.
So we may just go fish together.
We sit in a little restaurant,get some breakfast.
So we take a ride and hike inthe mountains and we talk in
exchange and I look in his eyesand I can't tell you I know him,

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I know of them, I know somedetails.
You know how quick that happenswith the Lord.
You go to church, you grow upwith all these Bible stories.
You sit in Sunday school and allof a sudden you're talking all
about the Lord.
But until you really get to knowthe Lord, there's not really a
transforming of your life.
You can get puffed up inknowledge but love edifies.

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So I just feel real strong aboutthis because I'm going to take
you somewhere right now.
The night when my life gotturned around the very night my
life got turned around, I was atwork.
I would have told you I was aChristian cause I grew up in
church, but I had impendedchurch for a very long time.
I didn't have the capacity tolove my wife.
I was sure at that time she wasthe problem of my life.

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I was.
I went to work.
You didn't think that there wasreally anything wrong with me.
I had the ability to seem okay,but I was mad inside.
I wanted away from this calledmarriage and I just wanted to be
my own man, but if you to ask meif I was a Christian, I would
have said, well, yeah, I'm aChristian.

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I grew up in church, man isbaptized when I was 12 dah, dah,
dah, dah, dah.
I went to work one night.
I was in the aisle working inthe stock came to my mind.
It wasn't first-person, itwasn't, this guy didn't open,
the ceiling didn't split

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and this light shoot down and hit me.
It wasn't like that.
It was soft and subtle and itwas just like a thought that I
get every day in whatever line.
You know how you just getthoughts.
You didn't get them on yourmindset and people say, I just
want to go quiet.
My mind.
Your mind is never quiet.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, I just want to go quiet my mind.
Stop it.
Your mind, you're trying toquiet your mind in your minds.
Go ahead.
Yeah, it's never quiet so youmight as well fill it with good
things.
Right and 12 your mind on thesethings.
Anything good and excellent,worthy.
Philippians four why?
Because your mind, God knows,your mind says set your mind on
these things.
Your mind is never quiet mymind.

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It was just like a thought I getevery day

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in in my life and it was amazing.
He came right out of the bluethough and this is what it said
and he impressed me so much.
The second time I heard it andthen I didn't really realize it
was the Lord too.
Later when it all hit me that,Oh my goodness, this was life
changing and here I am 24 yearslater.
I'm so passionate about aboutthis.

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He said to my heart, justsounded like my own thought.
He didn't talk first and he justtalked to me as if it was me.
He said, you don't even know.
You don't even know if God isreally real.
I came into my heart while I wasworking out of the blue.
I'm just doing work.
You don't even know if God isreally real.

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Well, I would have told you Iwas a Christian in a heartbeat
because my church resume, ifyou'd handed me a track on the
street corner, you know what I'dhave said?
I'd have played you at a smileand said, Aw, thank you for
Karen.
Listen, I'm a Christian and I'mone of you, man.
You're my brother.
I I'm redeemed through the bloodof Jesus.
He forgave me of all my sins.
I just said the language.
I learned the language.

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Listen, I'm not Spanish.
I can never be Spanish, but Ican learn the language.
You can learn a language inChristianity, but it doesn't
make you Christ like and you cantalk.
Some of the people that I'veseen that quote the most
scripture or some of the meanestpeople I've met in my life,

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they're, their disposition isnasty.
They're mean.
They use the Bible like a club.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm just saying, I don't know if you've ever met
anybody like that.
My Bible talks about joyunspeakable.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
My Bible says good tidings of great joy.
I'm not sure why our faces areso long.
I'm not sure why we are so far.
Bob Lord, good tidings of greatjoy.
Doesn't sound like a somberface.
Yeah.

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What it tells me is we don'ttotally understand the good
tidings cause it's good tidingsof great joy.
When we see the good news for itreally is your heart's response
without trying to be happy isgreat joy cause it's good news
or you follow me?
Honestly, what happens, I talkedabout this last night.
What happens is we let lifespeak way louder than truth.

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That's a problem.
Truths, what makes you free.
We find ourselves through lifeinstead of the giver of it.
We get tricked into only doingas good as things are going and
then our, our circumstancesbecomes our story, our identity
and our conversation and at bestwe're praying to God for things
to change the way we're hopingso we become okay.

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That's really the sums up.
The average Christian mentalitythat I've seen for 24 years and
all of a sudden will reduce totrying to survive and make it
and hope to catch a blessing andfind a little favor and I mean
we don't understand.
Like if somebody is not livingin a good place, we, we think
they're the problem.

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No, it's us not seeing them theway God does and all of a sudden
we're praying for them to changeit.
God knock them off their highhorse and if they don't change
soon I'm going to find anotherjob and all of a sudden we're
just running from what we don'tagree with.
Instead of shining in the midstof it all.
One of the number one prayerrequests that we get when I was
a pastors, please pray for me toget a new job.

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I can hardly stand working whereI'm at.
Watch people would say, I can'tbelieve God keeps letting me
where have to work there.
I thought he loved me.
He, you don't know the pressureI'm under on my job and they
asked for a new job and theycan't even believe God's still
letting them work there.
And I'm like, I am not prayingfor you to get a new job.
I'm going to pray to God ballsand change you there too.

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You get a revelation.
Why would you get a new job?
Go walk in the light, walk inlove, make peace, show mercy.
Be like Jesus.
Jesus walked right in the middleof that stuff and got criticized
for it by the people that wererunning.
They walked right in the middleof that.
He got criticized for the peoplehe hung out with.

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He's not intimidated byunbelievers.
He's not intimidated by somebodythat's not going to treat him.
Right.
Right.
That'd be like, Jesus said, takeme back.
Scotty.
Beam me up.
I am outta here.
These people do not love me.
Come on.
It's not like that.
So when God said to me, youdon't even know if God is really
real.

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I thought, what am I thinkingabout that for?
Who cares?
You know, why am I thinkingabout God?
And I kept trying to work and itcame right back to me.
You don't even know if God isreal.
Second time, all I'm telling youis there was so much
strengthened that thought therewas nowhere I could go to run

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from it.
I just froze and like a babyman.
I cried in my workplace.
You don't cry at work in awarehouse.
Are you kidding me?
You don't let your coworkers seeyou cry.
They'll eat you for lunch forthe rest of your days.
They'll talk about the day youwere crying.
I could not cry.
I stand at not not cry.

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I was bawling, crying, and guesswhat happened?
It was the Lord.
He came and rescued me frommyself.
That's why I'm so passionateabout this message.
I, I'm convinced guys, if thisis your first time meeting me,
I'm just, I know I'm kinda justkinda throwing some stuff out
there, but unconvinced where ourown biggest enemy you live in
for you is the biggest lie onthe planet.

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You were never created for you.
You were created for Christ inyou.
You were never created to beyour own person.
You were created to be who youare in him.
It was never designed for you tolive apart from him or outside
of him, outside of his mindset,his wisdom.
He tells you to not be conformedto the world, but be transformed
by the renewing of your mind.

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Why?
Because our minds have been socontaminated with self-centered
stuff.
Jealousy, pride, animosity.
Well, they did this.
Why wouldn't be mad if theydidn't?
Well, they started it.
Well, you need to talk to them.
That's our language.
We grow up with that so we callit normal, but you show me one
time when that language has everproduced life.
You show me one time where a badattitude has ever brought

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anything good.
You tell me one time where I'doffended harder.
Heard heart, a frustrated heart,ever produced kingdom of God.
That's how I know we're deceivedbecause we're called to go
preach saying the kingdom of Godis here and he's not talking
about buying a Bullhorn andwalking into the kingdom of God
is here.
The kingdom of God as you wouldknow.
They think we're cuckoo.

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He's talking about having adifferent mentality, a different
perspective, a different motivein life because the truth has
come to our hearts.
Staff are waking up and actuallyunderstanding why you are alive
and who you are.
You are in him and who he is inyou.
I just know this guys.
This is my own personaltestimony, so it means a lot to

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me.
I'm hoping you can glean atleast something from it.
It's a big deal to me.
If God came to me and spoke toMartin and said, you don't even
know if God's real.
He didn't say, Hey, you haven'tbeen at church for awhile.
Hm?
Can't remember the last time youcracked that book opens, huh?
Uh, I don't remember hearing youpray for a long time.

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He didn't say none of that.
He said, you don't know if God'sreal, why.
The biggest detriment in my lifewasn't my Christian
calisthenics.
It wasn't the things I do to sayI'm a Christian.
It was my relationship.
It was knowing him.
I could have told you about Godfor a long time.
I had it in my upbringing but Ididn't know him.

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So my life wasn't empowered tobe changed.
So I was offended at my wife.
What's the big deal aboutattending a church service and
saying amen and you're justdefended at your spouse and have
animosity in your home and youjustify it and you continue to
stay that way cause it'sjustified if the Lord lived that
way.
We're all in trouble.

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If you went to pray to God andhe said, listen, I'm a little
agitated with you right now.
You know that thing you've beensaying over and over, but I'm
telling you to stop.
You're just not.
You're too busy talking.
You haven't listened.
I'm just frustrated with youright now.
I'd rather you not pray to me.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Haven't we done that to each other?
Like well give me space.
You mean my time?
You talked to somebody aboutunforgiveness where some of
these things take time.
Why do we have such a grid forunforgiveness?
Because we think it's normal.
Cause that's all we've everknown from the time we can
remember.
Why don't we have a grid for ownforgiveness?
Why do we have such a grid forunforgiveness?

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Where where we think we have tobe hurt and then work to get
over it.
Wonder if God can change me fromthe inside where I don't have
the capacity to live the way Iused to live because new life is
on the inside of me.
Wonder if I wake up in themorning and the gospel's changed
my motive and all of a suddenI'm not alive for the same
reason.

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I'm not trying to survive.
I'm not looking to be noticed.
I don't need you to incur it'sme and make me feel good cause I
don't feel good about myself.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Some of us do good things to get accolade and
affirmation.
Who's ever seen somebody buysomething for somebody for
Christmas and the person didn'treally like the gift and the
person that bought it got hurtcause they didn't like the gift.
You never see that in life.
Guess what?
You didn't buy the gift forthem.
You bought it for you.
You bought it so they would doteover you and make you feel good

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in the moment they receive.
Oh, you shouldn't have.
You're so loving.
You're just giving.
You're like, Ooh, these are, youare so awesome.
And you heard them.
You say, what'd you say?
You're so awesome.
Oh[inaudible] we've lived thisshallow in our lives and we're
always looking for identity thisway.

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Affirmation feel good aboutourselves.
So people say nice things.
We feel better.
Yeah, my goodness.
There's something so powerfulabout knowing him guys.
So powerful.
He said, you don't even know ifGod is really real.
So I start crying cause why wereyou crying?

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It was solvers.
God came after me.
I'm just telling you, he came toget snatched me out of darkness.
It was him.
And there was a found out, therewas people praying for me.
She's gonna make me cry.
Did the Lord ever put somebodyon your heart that you haven't
seen for awhile or you justthink of a minute, feels bigger
than just your feelings whereit's like, Whoa, I wonder how

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they do, and you actually feellike you're caring about this
person and you might not evenknow them that well, but they're
really on your heart right now.
Please, if that happens, pleasestop what you're doing and just
pray.
You see why I don't even knowwhat to pray.
Just God.
Let your spirit go.
Just blessed them, man.
I hope they're well.
Lord, why would you let them befound in the way you desire
right now?
Your best for them?
God, just pray.

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Just it'll calm you.
Just don't ignore it cause I'mtelling you he's for willing
available people that will laydown their life in a moment and
speak out his heart towards Godso he can reach out.
You say why?
So he can cause we don't evenunderstand this stuff.
He made us a certain way to flowwith him and work with him and
co-labor.
He put men on the earth.

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He gave the earth to thechildren of man.
It's in Psalms, it's 16 he gavethe earth to the children of
men.
He told them to Stuart and havedominion, not apart from him
with him inside them.
So when a man praise God'sheart, God hears that prayer and
begins to respond.
Cause it's God working throughmen.
It's men working with God andvice versa.

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It's the most beautiful thingever.
It's not something to argueover.
It's something to become.
This couple was going toWalmart.
They barely knew me.
They knew my wife.
My wife was the hurting wifethat attended home group, who
had the miserable husband.
My wife was the wife.
They'd put on the hot seat causeshe would cry.

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How's your marriage?
How's things at home?
So they'd say, Oh sit here.
Oh he won't even know what we'rerealizing what we're doing.
And we're like, Oh God, wouldyou give her comfort?
She's, it's gotta be so hardliving with him.
And by the time they're donesentimental with her, they're so
mad at me.

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They can't even pray for me.
There are God cut him down,knock him off his high horse,
take out his, I cut his juggler.
You know, whatever.
Change him God, like nobody evenhas compassionate man is even
considering I'm lost.
They're just hurt and offendedbecause I'm hurting and

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offending.

Speaker 4 (22:30):

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Come on.
My wife was so sweet.
She sitting in at home group,they how's, how's things going
at home?
Any changes?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
They got their answer by the lip rippling.
[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (22:42):
so, Oh, we don't even understand what we're doing.
You're actually empowering herto be broken.
I can't even imagine how you'veput up with him this long.
That must be the grace of theLord on your life.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Come on.
What are you saying?
What you're saying is you shouldbe broken and I'd be broken if I
was in your shoes.
Guess what?
You just revered.
You have no ability to help her.
You can only sympathize.
Do you think Jesus would dothat?
I'm so sorry.
You've had to live with him.
I'm so sorry that he doesn'tbuild you up and encourage.

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You know, Jesus wants toseparate her from having her
identity through where he's notin her own husband.
Listen, until you get this,you'll be ruled by your
surroundings for the rest ofyour life.
Whether you admit it or not, youwill only be as good as things
are going and as good as peopleare treating you.
That's why insecurity is soprevalent in people because

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they're finding their valuethrough one another and they're
only as strong as the weaknessaround them.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
On the morning, I wake up and understand my life
is complete in him and I am notalive for you to love me.
I'm alive to be more like him.
That's the day I find freedomand that's the day I don't even
synthesize with the lady in thechair.
I understand.
I weep with her.
I kneel down and I say, honey,I'm so sorry.

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Your husband's in the place heis right now, but look me in the
eyes and understand something.
You never have to be a productof where he's not.
Your life is way deeper than hissins, his anger and his
inability to seemingly valueyou.
It doesn't mean you're notvaluable.
It means he can't see.
He's blind right now.

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Honey, let me tell you who youare and you build her up apart
from him and you teach her tonever let her life be a product
of his deficit because Jesus isher fullness.
Jesus is her.
All in all it says to know thelove of Christ is to be filled
with all the fullness of God.

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It doesn't say unless you'remarried to a jerk.
Hello, Tamara.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Be honest with me in this small room, how many of us
have made others our reason for

Speaker 3 (25:04):
be in whatever we are?
That's a very, I'm going to bebold.
Don't walk out on me.
Take this.
That's a very shallow way tolaugh and you're revealing.
You have very littleunderstanding of the truth that
makes men free, so let's just behumble and grow up into him in
all things.
Come on.
If I'm going to be blown aroundby the winds of life, I need to

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settle in and lock into truthsof truth can keep me free.
So you don't understand this.
But my wife went throughidentity crisis for eight years.
My wife believed that peoplesaid hi to her cause she was
married to me.
I travel, I preach, people gotme on YouTube.
It's just gets weird sometimes.
But I like it in the sense thatthe word's out there but
sometimes people, I just come inthrough the airport.

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I got stopped twice comingthrough the airport to come
here,

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Dan.
No way.
Oh my gosh.
I don't mean to be weird, butI'm like Whoa.
I guess they're appreciate whatthey're hearing.
At least they didn't come andcut off my head.
You heretics.
I'm young.
I'm looking at a food menu.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Tap me on the shoulder, you turn around and
lady's quiver.
Oh my goodness it is you.
And I'm like honey, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay.
Just a guy.
I just love Jesus.
Yeah, but you hug and it's justfunny.
So my wife started to believe,

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Hm.
People just say hi to me.
Cause I am here along for theride.
It's not because they value me,it's because I'm his wife.
And it was just the strangestthing that she led happen.
It's so devalued her.
It made every, hi Kim,rhetorical mechanical had

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nothing to do

Speaker 2 (26:44):
with, Hey Kim, you're awesome.
It had to do with, Hey, I'msupposed to say hi to her cause
she's his wife and that's whatshe started to believe.
So I saw her changing you andyou're married to someone.
They say, no, no, I'm okay.
You already know that's not theanswer.
You already know because you'remarried.
You know they're not okay.
But usually we don't communicatelike we could and be truthful.

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And I sat her down, I said,sweetheart, come on, I'm, I'm
okay snuff, fly I.
Something's going on.
You're not yourself.
You seem troubled.
Well she said, I just realizedsomething and I said, what did
you realize?
Because here's the thing.
No one what I've understood overthese years, when I see what she
says she's knowing is producingin her life.

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That's how I can tell if it'sthe truth or not.
If what you're believing isn'tproducing life is in stirring
your heart and generating joyand accountants of him, you're
on the wrong track.
Friend, he came to give you lifeand life.
If what's your dwelling on?
What's your thinking about whatyou just sit in on and news and
on?

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If it's not exciting, your heartand producing life, you're in a
trap.
You're spiraling in deceptionand it might be common knowledge
and you might find people whoagree with you, but if it's not
producing life, it can't be theLord.
Now, come on.
I know that's strong andstraight, but that's the way I
see it.

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Come on.
I don't want some big middleground.
We're good at creating it.
C'mon.
Achieve the black or white.
It's either angels or devils.
It's either Christ or Belisle.
He said, there's no middleground.
We create middle ground.
We create a gray zone.
When you smear black and whitetogether, you get gray.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (28:34):
ain't no gray zone in the kingdom.
He said, I'd rather you be hotor cold if you're lukewarm us,
spew you out of my mouth.
Why?
I said, Lord, what?
That sounds intense.
At least if somebody is warm,they're halfway to hot, why
would you rather them be cold?
And I felt like this is what Ireceived in my heart.

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If they're cold, I can transformthem and put them on fire.
But if they're lukewarm, they'rehanging in the middle and they
created a place to abide andthey're no good for anyone.
Lukewarm is no good for anyone.
It's the place of a hypocrite.
It's the place of a half in,half out.
I'm somewhat in just not all theway he showed my heart that

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that's no good for anybody.
And there's more people hurtingover people halfway in.
More people hurt by hypocrisythan there is by unbelief.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah,

Speaker 2 (29:31):
because they say, well, if that's a Christian, I
don't want nothing to do withthat.
We've had how many Christianssay all the right things and
find out doing all the wrongthings and all of a sudden we
make the message Lord instead ofa person, Lord.
And that person person'ssupposed to live inside of me
and he's the hope of glory.
And if you can't see him in mylife, why would you want what I

(29:52):
say?

Speaker 6 (29:54):
Yeah,

Speaker 2 (29:59):
let me back up.
Jesus comes into our workplace.
I'm trying to finish thistestimony and I, I don't know
what I'm doing.
I have no idea.
I'm just glad you're here.
He says, you don't even know ifGod's real.
I'm standing to cry.
And why am I crying?
Cause I look in my heart and forthe first time in my life,
personally, I got real and sawhow selfish I was.
And to me, in my mind, to thisday, I feel like I might've been

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the most selfish man on theplanet.
And I'd say, Oh, I love you andreally loved you for what you
did for me, what you gave me.
So I'd say, I love you to mywife.
It's cause it benefited mesomehow or just kept surface
piece.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah.
C'mon.
It's the three most most usedmisused words on the planet.
They've caused more pain.
The phrase I love you has causedmore pain because people need to
hear it, want to believe they'relovable.
So if the right person says it,they're enamored.
It doesn't matter how deep itis.
It just matters in the moment.

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Beaver with me, some of us havelived enough life.
We sell cheap on the phrase, Ilove you, but what I love you
means is I'm absolutelyselfless.
I will lay down my life for yoursake.
All that is, mine is yours.
I love you.
Yeah.
Wonder how many of us have donethat or experienced that in our

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lives where we have throughJesus crucified.
Every one of us was wrong and hecame to make us right.
Every one of us was unworthy andhe came to say, you're worth
more than you understand.
You're worth my life.
You're worth his sacrifice.
He know Jesus was not on thecross saying, Hey, you bunch of

(31:46):
sinners.
I hope you're happy.
Now when do you get the point?
Isn't the time to change?
Look what your sin has done tome.
It's not the cross.
That's how people preach.
The cross is saying, I know whoyou are.
I've known you from thebeginning.
I've never changed my mind aboutyou.
You don't see and understand whoyou are, but I know the truth.

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I know your potential.
I know your purpose and yourworth.
Every blow I've received inevery drop of blood, I've shed
my life given his worth, yourslived in me.
Would you come unto me?
I'll give you life.
That's what the crosses say.
That's a whole different messagethan shape up.
When I grew up, I don't know,but when I was, I see a lot of

(32:29):
young youngsters again in thisroom when I was their age,
Christianity was just what Ishould do and shouldn't do and I
should know better and I stillhad those shouldn't do things in
my heart.
You say warranties still in yourheart.
My heart is transformed.
I've got so many things in myheart that are changed.
There's things I don't eventhink about struggle or there's

(32:51):
things that you used to tell methat I just think, what was I
thinking?
Because I see now, see, becausehe exposed selfishness in my
life now let me get straightwith you, you guys.
Okay?
Okay.
I hope you can handle this.
Can I get really straight withyou right now?
Let me ask you a question.
If you're truly discouraged,where's your focus?

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If you're really discouraged,what are you focusing on that
allows you to be just trulydiscouraged how things didn't go
the way you hoped, how thingsdidn't go the way you were
desiring, what it's costing you?
Oh, now look what it put methrough.
Your focus has to beself-centered when you're truly
discouraged.
Hebrews 12 three says this,consider him.

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Consider who who endured suchhostility against him self from
sinners.
Least you be weary, given up anddiscouraged in your soul.
What's he talking about?
Least you let life speak louderthan truth and become a product
of what you're going throughinstead of a product or what he
went through.
See what I'm talking about isthe difference between just

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hashing over religious theoriesover coffee and debating
Christian principles versusliving in intimacy with God and
having an absolute life changeto where you're truly betrayed
factually and you don't livebetrayed and nobody knows you
were betrayed.
Why?
Because you're not thinkingbetrayed your thinking, Jesus.

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You're thinking walking in love.
She, my wife, you don'tunderstand this, but for eight
years my wife started tobelieving this lie and it
spiraled her to the point whereshe's so devalued herself.
She thought it would be betterif she wasn't even alive and I
was her husband and felt like Ihad no ability to pour into her.
Cause she'd look at me and say,well, you're supposed to tell me

(34:39):
that.
Well, you're supposed to.
That's the right answer.
Of course you'd tell me thatbecause you're a nice man, but
it doesn't mean it's true aboutme.
I'd say, honey, it's true aboutyou because it's the word.
It's what he paid for.
It's who he sees you to be.
No, you're supposed to tell methat.
So for eight years, you sayeight years.

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Truth doesn't know time.
So what, because it's eightyears.
I'm supposed to be a wearyhusband.
I'm supposed to be given up.
Hey, I got a lot on my plate.
I'm called to ministry, had somany people pulling on me and
now my wife can't even get withit.
She needs to get with it.
If she don't change soon, I amgoing to break down somebody
keep me in prayer.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
See, I'm on you a little bit this morning.
We've let a lot of things thataren't Lord, decide who we are
and how we are.
You see, how did you do that?
For eight years?
There was a time I was full timepastor.
My wife wouldn't even come tochurch where I pastored cause
she didn't want to come out.
People would call her and she'dsay out loud, they're only
calling me cause I'm so messedup.

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And I lived in that scenario foreight years.
But if you bumped into me, youwouldn't have said, brother, are
you okay?
Do you need prayer?
You bumped into me.
I had to tone downside and freakyou out with my passion in my
zeal and my excitement.
Why?
Cause I don't find my identitythrough my wife.
I find my identity throughJesus.
Now I'm empowered to love her inthe most critical time of her

(36:10):
life.
Would you agree she was introuble for eight years?
Would you agree she wasdeceived?
Would you agree that she reallyneeded Jesus?
Well, he happens to live inthere and now is not the time to
be a frustrated husband thatsays, I love you, but you owe me

Speaker 5 (36:29):
[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (36:32):
so you know what makes me so excited about this
stuff?
My wife has no ability todictate how I'm doing.
All she can do is be loved by meand there she receives it.
Great.
And if she does it, I'm stillloving her.
Yay.
But I'm not lacking a thing.
She don't have to write me nolittle sweet cards.

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So when she does, it reallytouches my heart because it's
not necessary.
If I needed it, it would besickness.
She'd be enabling something thatneeds to be fulfilled in my
life.
Come on.
If I need her to say, Oh, I loveyou.
Oh, we're still going.
Oh.
She said, you know, she didn'tsay, I love you for two days.
I wonder if she, Hey honey, loveyou full.

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Thank you Lord.
That would be weirdness.
I read this, I keep this thingin here.
I have so many of them.
I have a whole pile of them.
She stuck this in my Bible.
I've never taken it out.
It's pink.
It's my wife's little note.
She wrote this me, I read it allover.

(37:34):
I exploited all the time andread her heart to me.
You want to, you want to notelike this from your wife.
She said, I hope you have thebest weekend ever.
You're a true man of God.
See, this isn't somebody thatwatches me on YouTube.
This is my wife.
This is the one that I love.
Through an eight year periodwhere she was living in a

(37:58):
almost, I'm barely describinghow bad it was on her end, where
she was so hurting and deceived.
Now she understands that I sawsomething the whole time that I
refuse to let go of and now sheunderstands that watch God in me

(38:21):
and through me was empowering mecause I'm surrendered to him to
love her just like he would ifhe was in her home.
Did you get it?
And all of a sudden she realizeswhen she couldn't see the value
of her life, I could not

Speaker 3 (38:37):
see it.
She said, I hope you have thebest we can.
Every you're a true man of God.
And I doubt God can find manymen, if any, just cause she
hasn't hung around wildly thatlong.
I doubt God can find many men,if any, on this earth with your
integrity, your character, andyour good heart.

(38:58):
She's not boasting in me.
She's recognizing Christ in me.
See my hair color.
I'm wise enough to understand.
I'm not a self made man.
I had no ability to get a notelike that before because if I
didn't know Jesus when she wentinto that eight year thing, it
would've maybe went six monthsand that's it.

(39:20):
And somebody got draw a line andenough is enough and you can
only take so much.
And I'd have pulled threefriends into my life that
understood my pain and they'dhave been my support system.
Y'all with me?
Come on.
I've been around a little bit.
I've seen this.
I've been on the earth just longenough to see this happens to
good people all the time.

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People that mean well but arecaught up in the deception.
Hey, no way.
I would've got a note like thatfruit, Mel, Jesus changed
everything.
It says you're not your own.
You're bought with a price.
We got understand this stuff,man.
We gotta be more than justgetting into marriage counseling

(40:04):
and saying,

Speaker 2 (40:04):
well he will.
She will.
That's because, well, she's theone that starts saying, well I
only respond because he is titfor tat.
He said, she said, and we'repsychologically trying to assess
who needs to give a little more,take a little more, find this
healthy 55th

Speaker 3 (40:19):
the thing that is like, to me, it's secular.
It's the world.
And watch this, it doesn't workcause it doesn't change lives.
It just keeps people going.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
It doesn't change you on the inside.
So what's the big deal if youget your cake and eat it too and
you're not transformed.
Now you're just spoiled in yourmarriage.
It's really your controlling.
Do you ever see spouses do thesilent treatment to each other?
They got a little issue theyhaven't resolved.
So it comes out

Speaker 3 (40:52):
their behavior.
They say, Hey honey, where youhoney?
Are you okay?
I'm fine, honey.
You're not fine.
I'm fine.
And then there's a little quietand then there's talk and then
there's nothing.
It's like a statement.
You got me frustrated.
You need to realize it and Idon't know how you're going to
make up for it, but I wish youwould see you ever see that in

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relationships?
I used to do it.
My wife used to do it all thetime.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I'm not being mean.
When you live that way, you giveyourself away, you reveal.
You don't know him like

Speaker 3 (41:24):
we sing because he's not living that way.
He's not that way.
He's amazing.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
He came to me when I was celebrating, getting
divorced, ready to move in witha girl eight years younger and
just have a new fresh thing inmy life.
He came to me right in the midstof them willful things and said,
you don't even know if God'sreal and w w and realized I was

(41:52):
the most selfish man in my mindon the whole planet and I
realized I was empty and aloneand then I found scripture later
that says, unless a seed diesand falls to the ground, it
abides alone.
If your goal is you, you'llalways be alone.
You'll never reproduce anything.
And at the end of your journeyyou'll have produced nothing but

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living for the fulfillment ofyourself.
Are you with me?
Unless the sea dies and falls tothe ground, what did by
everybody is a seed.
You die and fall to the groundand spring up.
What are you going to do?
Bear much fruit.
But when I live for a selfishthing, for myself, for me,
myself and I, that's all I canever produce.

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Just the fulfillment of myselfand in the end that's all I have
to show for.
I made my own way and usedwhoever to accomplish it.
Now that's the opposite of love.
Are you with me?
I just, I just feel like I'm tochallenge you with some of these
thoughts not cause you're messedup and bad not to lose your con

(42:56):
millionaire is no, because thesethings are the only things that
truly change our life.
Come on guys.
You could, you could attend yourchurch and be faithful in the
ministry of your church and ifyou, which I encourage you to
do, but if you don't get a holdof these truths, you'll be the
same offended person.

(43:17):
The only difference is that yougo to church and then your
coworkers know you go to church,but they see your life.
So now you just have a beliefsystem.
You're going to have a lifechange.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Are you with me?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I never wanted that in my life.
When I saw Jesus and got saved,I, I had it before Christian
language.
You're handing me a track out oftalked around you, but when this
thing happened that night atwork, you don't even know if
God's real.
I cried out to him.
I looked up at those metalrafters in that warehouse.
I was crying so hard and I said,my life is pitiful.

(43:53):
I said, man, I am so selfish.
I don't even like me at all.
I need people to like me to feellike a boy.
I am so alone inside.
I'm so selfish as to cry.
I am a hypocrite and I cried.
I remember crying so hard.
I said, I already know and I'mat work.

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You just don't do that at workas never so serious in my life.
I pointed, I remember pointingto demo rafters, I said, but if
you are real, if you love me andcan forgive me of all these
things and have a plan for mylife, I lifted my hands high and
said I'll live for you.

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And I didn't know exactly what Iwas saying, but I knew what I
meant and I can't even explainit.
This sense of God, reality thatI didn't have a minute ago came
over me.
I still have a hard timedescribing it.
Like, can you see I'm wired.
Like I tried to calm down tocommunicate cause I don't want

(44:58):
to freak you out, but I am waymore excited than you see.
Like way more when I talk aboutthis stuff.
He's my friend.
He's not just my Lord.
I'm not afraid to tell you this.
He's my friend.
I found it in John 15 he's theone that started it.
He said, look, call you aservant.
You're a friend.

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So if I'm his friend, I guesshe's mine.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
Yea.
So don't fight with me over thatstuff.
He loves me like he loves tolive inside of me.
He paid a price to get me cleanand be a house fit for a King.
Yeah, I'm prime real estate tothe Lord.
He said, name your price.
I'm moving in.
It'll cost you blood alreadypaid before the foundational

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world.
Yay.
You see what's wrong with me?
You say you're out of your mind.
No, I'm probably out of yours.
That just might be your problemif you have one C.
I think we don't think that truejoy can even be real.

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I don't think we think we can bethis excited cause we've been
tricked by life

Speaker 2 (46:09):
instead of the giver of it.
You see this sense of God.
Reality came over me and I, I'llnever forget it.
I think I pulled my hair.
I know I ran shared speakerthing there.
I guess that's a speaker.
I know I ran from here to there,back and forth, over and over,

(46:31):
jumping in the air.
Spinning.
I think I was pulling my hair.
I was going, I was at work inthe aisle.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
You're real.
You're real.
You're really real.
I looked like I needed asedative and a straight jacket,

Speaker 2 (46:52):
but for the first day, moment, minute in my entire
life, I was free.
I was free.
What was I free from us?
Free from myself that quick.
I, that's what God was waiting.
He wasn't waiting for me to goto church and pray a prayer to
go, Hey, he's waiting for me togive him my life so his life

(47:17):
could come inside of me.
You know?
He said, well, just ask Jesusinto your heart.
Stop it.
He wants your life.
It was never yours in the first.
He

Speaker 3 (47:30):
always made man to be one with him, to live in man and
live through man.
Man was never created to livealone.
That's why man.
So no, only SWAT people lie.
That's why people get inrelationships because of the
need in their life.
So they find somebody that fillsthe vacuum of what they don't

(47:52):
have[inaudible] and then iftheir life changes and they feel
like they don't have that needanymore, guess what happens to
the person that used to fillthat need?
They, they don't value themanymore and feel like they don't
need them.
And guess what?
We call it falling out of love.
No, you never loved in the firstplace.
You were driven by need.
You accommodated yourself andyou brought somebody in to

(48:15):
facilitate your life and youchanged and don't have the
deficit anymore so you don't seetheir value anymore.
So now you say you fell a low,they can't even eat or function
because they're still in need ofyou and you're their whole world
and you're flattered.
Cause they said, I don't knowwhat I'd do without you.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Anybody ever see these scenarios all the time?
There's only one person that youcould ever truly say, I don't
know what I'd do without you.
It has to be him.
And then when your wife's in aneight year deficit, you're not a

(48:55):
burned out husband that doesn'tknow how to continue because you
don't know how to not be okay.
Because your goal in life is tofollow him and to love like he
loves not to need her, to loveher, not to pray for her to
change so you can bear it for,to pray for her to change her.

(49:16):
She can rise up and shine and bewhat she was created to be.
Do you see there's a differencebetween a hurting man and a man
that knows him and all?
He has this love for her nomatter how wrong it seems she
is.
There's a difference.
I've been a pastor long enough.
I'd feel like I'm really talkingabout marriages a lot.

(49:37):
Sorry, just the way it happens.
If you're married in this room,if you're not married, strongly
lesson, but if you're married inthis room, don't elbow your
spouse and say, I hope mirrorlistening cause you, that's the
sign I'm talking to you.
And instead of feelinguncomfortable or nervous or

(50:00):
what's my wife's thinking, or,Oh, I bet my husband's loving
this.
I'd rather you think, you knowwhat, there's a higher place and
ain't about what I've donewrong.
It's about what I'm growing inand it's about becoming what he
paid for.
It ain't about the failure, it'sabout the increase and we can

(50:22):
all change and grow up into him.
Amen.
You know, I went home, my wifeand I hadn't been together for
five months.
We hadn't slept in the sameroom.
We kind of were away for days ata time, but we decided rather
than try to rent an apartment orkeep doing, rather than waste a
little bit of money we had tillwe were divorced, we'll try to

(50:46):
at least stay in the same homeand redeem our money til we're
going, you know, has really bad.
Oh, it was so bad.
Like we won't even talk to eachother.
We'd stick each other with thechildren.
The children just pay such aprice has.
She'd come home and I'd slideout the back door and won't even
say a word to her.
And then she had come home andshe'd slide out a door and

(51:08):
wouldn't even say a word.
I just hear her car go up theHill and didn't even know where
she was.
We didn't even talk.
It was terrible.
So on that night, I got saved.
She was sitting at home.
She was really hurting.
She was angry.
She felt like she tried hard.
She was a Christian.
When I met her, she just gotsaved and she said, well, are

(51:28):
you a Christian?
And I said, well, yeah, I'm aChristian.
Why?
Because it helped the cause.
I figured if she wanted me tosay yes, I better say yes.
She should have realized that afew short moments, that there
wasn't nothing Jesus like aboutme, but she obviously had enough
in the need and insecurity andthe relationship happened and we
got married in nine months.

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She was at home.
This is what unforgiveness doesto people in betterness.
It makes you what you're not.
It manipulates you and you'reonly doing what you're doing and
feeling what you're feeling.
Saying what you're saying, causeyou're living hurt.
It's like a Potter.
But who's the great Potter younow people say, Oh, I'll never

(52:12):
do that, but when they get hurtenough, they'll do what they
know they never would have done.
When they get angry enough,they'll do what they knew they
never would have done.
They're 13 years old, theyprecious little girl and they
put their little purity ring onin youth group and thank you
Jesus.
Their heart gets hurt down theroad and next thing you know
they're across the line doingsomething they knew they'd never
do and then they go[inaudible]and then the devil's right there

(52:34):
in their minds.
Just what did you do well here?
Y eh, it's happened to a lot ofpeople.
My wife was at home.
It's kind of sadly funny.
She had a little mixed drink ona picnic table sipping it and
they were smoking stuff.
He shouldn't be botheringsmoking.
Her and some girl that was 10years younger down the street

(52:57):
became her counselor and she'sgoing to teach her how to live
her life and move on and makethe most of life.
What you don't know about mywife is when she gave up on our
marriage and I belittled her andmocked her and tore her up with
my words that day.
It was so terrible.
She went in the bedroom andsaid, I refuse to cry.

(53:18):
I refused to let this man hurtme anymore.
I am done.
And then she did this.
It's called analytical thinking.
You know what that is?
It's when somebody thinks somuch, they talk their self into
a complicated place.
It's not a gift from the Lordanalytic.

(53:39):
Well, I'm just a very anti.
People say, well, I'm just veryanalytical brother.
Well, stop boasting in that.
Repent and die to that.
It's not goal because what itdoes is it takes simple things,
dwells on it long enough to makeit complicated to where now you
can't even see truth becauseyou're so deep in it.

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Here's what she did.
Now watch what my wife did.
You know how many people havedone this because they don't
understand that they're incovenant with God and all it is
theirs is the Lord's and they'velaid down their life.
They believe we, we preach itthis way.
Unfortunately, ministers preachthe gospel to benefit us in
serve us.
So who's ever seen anybody madat God, confused towards God or

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frustrated with God and justwere afraid to really get mad at
him cause he's the Lord.
But here's what my wife did.
She said, I'm so done with thisman.
I'm so done with this marriage.
And then she told me this later,weeks later, she told me that
she looked up at the ceiling andshe put me, I what?
We always figure, he's up there,right?
He wants to be right here whowere always like, he's out there

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somewhere as she said, and you,she said she pumped her fist at
the ceiling and said, and you,I'm done with you till you have
never answered my prayer.
You have done nothing for thisman.
You, you have loud me and thesechildren to suffer through hell

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and you've done nothing.
You haven't changed him.
I believe he's worse.
I am done with you too.
She turned and walked out of theroom.
You see how self-centered thatis?
That was in my wife the wholetime that she was a Christian.
That motive was there cause itwas never confronted which way.

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I just need to clean up my life.
Yeah.
My kids are really struggling.
I think I need to get back tochurch and pray more.
Sometimes we'll make this pushinto God for what we get from
him instead of how we can becomemore like him in our lives.
And it's backwards.
So I called my wife, she'ssitting at home on a picnic

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table.
The kids were in bed and shesaid to this girl, 10 years
younger than her.
She said, you know, it'd be justlike my husband come someday and
say he found the Lord.
I could just see him trying topull that.
She's just, since she's smoking,what, you shouldn't be smoking.
And it's so not my wife.

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It's sadly hilarious.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
And she said it wasn't 15 minutes later I rang
the phone and I said, Hey.
She said, what do you want?
I said, I don't even know how totell you this, but when I was so
overwhelmed, I said, God, it'sreal.
Click.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
No, my wife is timid and quiet and she is just behind
the scenes.
She don't draw, so she drawszero attention to herself, seems
to be the quietest one in theroom.
When I came home that night, Idon't know where she found that
button, but it was like there'sa clause.
They, I think I saw them thatlong on every finger she was.

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When I walked in the house, hewas, I never saw her like that
in my life.
I'm like, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
She said it was all this rightness.
It was all this court of lawstuff.
It was all the grievances wouldhave made it an entertaining
talk show.
The judgmental crowd wouldajudged her, a victim, me a
villain, and everybody wouldlose.

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She would stay a victim of mydemise and I would stay a
villain.
No chance for change, poor us,but at least people get
entertained.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
[inaudible]

Speaker 3 (57:41):
you see our unredeemed victim villain is,
I'm telling you, the firstmistake we make is it's easy to
feel sorry for ourself, nomatter what.
It's the biggest of your life.
How can you deny yourself forhis name and feel sorry for
yourself at the same time?
I can't believe they did that tome.

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Why not?
People do all kinds of things.
Why do you think they did thatto you?
Could you imagine if Jesus wastalking like that?
Could you see Jesus bombed outin the Bible, died?
Did you ever read the chapterwhere he sitting on the Mount of
olives and he's just kind ofbummed out?
Did you ever read it?
He's just kind of solemn andPeter says, Lord, what's the

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matter?
I don't know.
I just don't feel thatencouraged today.
You don't feel encouraged, Lord,you guys never read this in your
Bible?
Well, I just don't feel thatencouraged today, Peter.
I mean, I don't think peoplelike me that much.
I mean, I'm trying to do allthis good and they say really
bad things about me.
And I mean the other day when Ifed the[inaudible] member how I

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was cool multiplying the food.
Yeah, that was cool.
But they didn't seem to carelike it didn't hit them.
They just came back the next daycause they wanted more food.
They didn't care what I said,they didn't have it.
It didn't have anything to do.
Peter, I'm just feeling a littleleft out right now.
I don't know what I'm reallyaccomplishing.
I mean God lets me hear theirthoughts.
I wish he did sometimes causetheir thoughts aren't Cole.

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You never read this in yourBible.
And then John walks over andsays, Hey Lord, what's the
matter?
And he says, John, not today.
You're not laying your head on.
I know I'm going to lay my headon you.
Just hold me John.
Just hold me.
You never read that, huh?
So he never taught us that.
So you never saw Jesus that way.

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So he never taught us that.
He said, let no man be yourteacher.
Let no one be your teacher.
You have one teacher.
He's the Christ.
So if Jesus never taught usthat, where'd we get that
permissible mentality for wonderwhere we learned it if we didn't

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get it from him, and all of asudden the Bible says there's a
way that seemeth right to a man,but here's the giveaway.
It's way there unto lead us towhen you see what it's
producing, you know where it'sfrom.
I walked in the house, my wifesaid, how dare you, you're, she

(01:00:15):
said about three year of fulldamn older.
If you think you're gonna pullthis other set in, you're a
Christian.
I tell thanks.
She says, wow, you're justtrying to make the family turn
and think on the wits and you'rethe good guy.
And I'm just standing there,gone.

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God's real.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
I was still overwhelmed.
I'm like, God's real, he's real.
It's not that I couldn't hearwhat she was saying, but what am
I going to say?
She's going to call my eyes out.
How do I say, you know, honey,I'm really sorry.
Sorry.
You'll shut it down.
Sorry.
13 years I got hello.
We don't even give people achance to change because of her.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
No offense.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
We expect them to make up for what they didn't do
and they can't.
And even when they are sorry, webring it up

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
and they, nothing you can do to go back and change a
thing, but you can change andthe gospel understands that we
are tale.
You can't go back and do nothingover.
You can't change where you'vebeen and what you've done.
You can't change what you'vesaid, but who you are can
change.
And when who you are changes,the blood washes who you were

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away and God never sees you forwhere you've been.
He sees you for who you'vebecome.
That's the good news.
Now, wouldn't it be great ifpeople made for his image that
are Christians would understandthat and live that way too.
When that be amazing.
I think that's the point.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Seem to go up there.
You hurt me.
Which the Lord would justsometimes just, I'm like, Lord,
why don't you freak us out morelike,[inaudible] really hurt me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Well, what are you doing so hurt?
I never let you hurt me.
Why are you letting them hurtyou?
Why don't you love them?
Like, I've loved you.
You've never heard me complainabout you.
Why are you about them?
Why don't you love them?
And also need ministers, hearttesters, when dat be amazing.
So here's my wife, did myprecious little wifey

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
for seven weeks.
Seven weeks, stretch your mindwith me so I don't have to go
into too much detail for allthese young, for seven weeks,
she went out of her way

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
to break my heart, to break me and get me to go.
So she could go, aha.
See you ain't no different.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
So she could relieve her own, violated

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
conscience through my expression of weakness.
And that would have been enoughfor her.
Why?
Because she wasn't no in him.
She just live in by principlesthat she's had the ability to
violate because she's not inrelationship with Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
So she's waiting for me to slip so she could go, ah,
push the hypocrite button andrelieve her own

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
convictions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Seven weeks she went out of her way to break my heart
and now all I can do is loveher.
So we got a big problem and it'sa good one.
I remember one day I'm in theroom praying.
I got the door closed when I'mall alone and I know I'm alone.
I know you can picture this, butI get really loud and I'll walk

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my bedroom and I talked to theLord.
You could hear me outside.
I get really loud and one day Icame out from praying and
seeking the Lord and I had toget to work and I opened the
door and my wife was right.
I opened the door and my wifewas right there, analytical
watch Hugh make me so mad.
I'm like, I'm sorry.

(01:04:18):
Here's what I'm thinking.
I didn't mean to make you madanyway, and what can I say?
There's nothing I can,everything I say the anger, the
unresolved conflict or turn mywords.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
So sometimes you just stand there and your eyes filled
with tears because you want todo more than you have the
ability to in the moment becauseof where the hearts are.
She says, you make me so mad.
You live like the devil for 13years, 13 years.
You live again and now you're inthere praying to God like your
some Holy man.

(01:04:49):
I don't think so.
And I said, well Kim, Iunderstand[inaudible] don't a
lot and I can only imagine howyou feeling.
Really sorry, I just slip awayquick.
So it didn't turn into morewords.
But here's what she noticed.
I wasn't a fighter that I usedto be.

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I didn't qualify things I didn'tever have to get the last word
in.
I didn't pull out the sharpnessof my tongue and try Pierce her
more than she was piercing me.
And all of a sudden, in sevenweeks she started realizing this
ain't the same man.
So six weeks in, she goes away.
She tells me she's leaving forthe weekend.

(01:05:32):
Six hours later, she sneaksaround back and comes in the
back door.
Sneaky.
Six hours later, she's going tocatch me in in propriety.
She's gonna catch me screamingat the kid watching something
trashy on TV.
She's gonna catch me in myelement.

(01:05:52):
So she comes sneaking in sixhours later, unannounced, guess
what she catches me doing?
I got my 10 and five year oldsitting Indian style on the
floor with the book of Psalmsopen, teaching them what it
means to worship God.

(01:06:15):
She peaks around the corner.
I look up, I see movement.
I look up and there's her little[inaudible] faith.
I see cute.
What are you okay?
What's wrong?
Cause she supposed to be out oftown.
Six hours later she's peekingaround a corner.
Secure your case.
She said, she goes, I'm fine toup the steps, but[inaudible]

(01:06:38):
pull down the steps and shot outthe door and never said a word.
So we did.
I said, it's okay.
We just kept doing the wholeworship Jesus thing and yay.
She said she got in the car soangry, so mad, so miserable.
Why?
You're not made to live inunforgiveness.
It's a wretched tormented place.
It's an outer darkness, soulbound place.

(01:06:59):
Read your Bible.
You are not made to live inunresolved conflict.
You are not made to hold OD.
It will destroy you, manipulateyou and change you.
She said she was so mad driving.
She said, she's yelling at Godthe whole way.
If he's changed.
Why did you wait so long?
Well, why is he changed now whenit's too late, my heart doesn't
even care anymore and now youdid that.

(01:07:21):
This is not there.
She said she's screaming andpout in the hallway instead of
wow God.
So watch this because she prayedfor me for 13 years before that.
All the time.
Now watch.
I'm just telling you this littlestory.
It just feels right.
I hope you're patient with me.
We'll be done real soon.
It'll be lunchtime.
I'm glad y'all came.
They got lots of food.

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I'm glad you're here.
The following week is theseventh week she's going into
the bathroom.
She's, she's pretty enough.
She's doing whatever you ladiesdo in there with that close.
She's doing it.
She's got a little ironing,curling iron brush thing and she
got a little makeup.
She's got some jewelry.
She's pretty enough.

(01:08:02):
She's heading somewhere.
She's in the bathroom.
She ain't talking to me at all.
Kids are clinging to me likeglue.
Kids love their new daddy.
I took my little year old out toeat cause I used to not even
show her no love.
My little 10 year old before Iknew Jesus I was so selfish
sometimes I didn't even feellike I had anything for my

(01:08:24):
daughter cause sometimes I wouldfeel like she got in the way of
my wife and I and ourrelationship.
I was so selfish.
Now I get saved and I value herfirst thing.
The Lord told me to take her outto eat and just be her daddy,
just you and her.
I told her I'm taking her to eat.
She said, mommy, daddy's takingme to eat.
Not you, not you and Daniel.
Just me.
Just me and dad.

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I heard her telly, tell her shewas 10 I'll never forget it.
We're sitting in the restaurantin a little booth and you can
tell kids by their body posture.
She sitting in the booth, justus swinging them fi they have
little feet with just a swing.
[inaudible] why she just happyhe does out there with her
daddy.
She come over from the salad barand had all this stuff.

(01:09:06):
When she sits down, I'll steer,can see her little feet go like
this.
And I sat down, we had a greattime.
I got in the driveway and Isaid, honey, I said we need to
talk before we get in the house.
I said, you know, I just reallyfrom my heart need to say, and
I'm really, really sorry for allthe memories and all of the
years and all the times I washarsh with you and hard with
you.
I should remember how mommyalways tricky to church.

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Cause my kids were like, mommy,you used to always take us to
church now you never go.
And daddy always goes in.
He takes us to church.
Like, what's going on here guys?
Where'd you all straighten thisout?
You know?
But I said, Jesus, remember howJesus, yeah, well he has come
inside of your daddy and helives in me now.

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And before he came, I was nevera good daddy to you.
And I was, and kids are soamazing.
When I got through my wholeheart confession, she said, Oh,
that's okay daddy.
And I'm like, no honey, it's notokay.
I want you to understand howsorry I am that I hurt you and
made you feel there was times Imade you feel like you had no
value and you didn't even thinkI loved you at all.

(01:10:12):
And she lost it in a truck.
I pulled her in and I said, thatday is over cause you have a
daddy now and Jesus is inside ofhim.
And I held her and we go in thehouse.
Seven weeks later this ishappening.

(01:10:33):
My wife's in the bathroom, shegot the curling brush.
She told me to brush was in herhand she's doing and the Lord
guys, the Lord walks in thebathroom.
She's aware of the presence ofthe Lord.
Now she's running from him.
She's mad at him the best.
She understands she's got issueswith the Lord but he doesn't

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seem intimidated by that.
And as if he owns the place.
He just comes in the bathroomand she said she went cause she
was aware of him and she heardthis, her heart.
It wasn't out here.
It wasn't a voice from the sky.
She heard this sentence in herheart.

(01:11:20):
Why are you so angry with thatman separating me from her
anger?
Can't you see?
She said when he said, can't yousee?
It was like somebody toresomething off her tongue.
It was all the years ofunresolved conflict, bitterness
her.

(01:11:42):
She said it was so overwhelming.
He said, can't you see that'snot even the man you're angry
with.

Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
And this is my favorite part of the testimony.
This is my absolute favoritepart because God can't lie.
Can God lie?
Oh, so if he says something, pay[inaudible]

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
you said in fact, Kim, that meaning me now the new
me, that isn't even the man youmarried.
I have made him a brand new man.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
It was so overwhelming to her.
She said she crashed to thefloor in a fetal position.

Speaker 8 (01:12:19):
[inaudible]

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
let's see.
Just cry now.
The Lord remembers her, right?
He wants to make peace.
He's not like in a wave.
You talk to me, girl, are youkidding me?
It took me three weeks to getover there.
We have a couple of boardmeetings about you.

(01:12:41):
Can you really show Kevin withyour frustration?
You know what he did?
She said it felt like he washovering over her and he said,
it's true, Kim, you pray for 13years for him to change.
It's not that I didn't hear.
I just couldn't do anything.

(01:13:02):
You don't understand how youtied my hands from answering
your prayer because you onlyever prayed from the place of
pain.
You only prayed because you knewif I changed him your day would
go better.
You only prayed because you werehurt.
You never pray because of mercyand cause of love.

(01:13:22):
Never once did you cry for howlost he was never wants.
Did you have mercy towards yourhusband?
I will not answer your prayercause that place is never me and
I won't allow you to stay whereI'm not.

(01:13:43):
She's

Speaker 8 (01:13:44):
wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I'm out in the garden.
I love gardening.
I'm out in the garden.
I'm doing a second round ofbeans.
I'm just having a blast.
There's so much gospel in thegarden.
It's ridiculous to see time andharvest time and fallow ground
and sow and water and increasedah, gospel.

Speaker 7 (01:14:03):
It's right in my yard.
Hook gospel right before myeyes.
And you're able to see thisstuff in yard.
It loves

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
living here.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
My yard, cause I'm a covenant guy.
My stuff just put tomatoes.
They're just great as everythingloves my yard, except for bugs
and critters and pestilence.
It's the fruit of my ground.
It's blessed.
It's, it's amazing.
I don't put any sprays, anynothing.
Y'all see how it grows?

(01:14:32):
Seed time, harvest time.
So I'm out there doing what youdo.
You don't sow nothing Rose.
All of a sudden I hear the door,boom.
I look.
Here's my little wife.
She's the cutest little thing.
She's tiny.
She's running, she's comingaround the garden, crying her
eyes out.
And you know what I think?

(01:14:53):
I think somebody just died tilshe wouldn't come to me.
She's avoid me.
She doesn't talk to me.
She's mean for seven weeks inthe natural, but I never took it
to heart.
I understand she's hurt.
Just love her.
Now she's running dead at me.
Full head of steam, crying outof control.
And you're thinking, Oh no, whathappened?

(01:15:14):
Some she just got a call younever want to get.
And she's running to me, but shesaying something over and over
and over.
Repetitious.
I could hear it, but I couldn'ttell what she was saying cause
he was crying so hard.
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
And she gets close to me and then I can hear it.
She's going, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry I had your littleheads right now.
I go, Ooh.
And there was the ugliest sceneof a movie you have ever seen.
She is clinging to me now.

(01:15:47):
It started to bother me innatural sense that why is she
sorry?
When she tried so hard, she wentthe extra mile.
She was a peacemaker.
13 years.
She lived in the midst of myflat-out selfishness.
So why is she sorry.
Forgiven up for pulling theplug.
I don't know, but it botheredme.
I'm like, I am so sorry for thefirst time in my life and I'd

(01:16:08):
been waiting for the opportunityto look her in the eyes and cry
and tell her the truth for thefirst time in my life to be able
to look in her eyes and tell herthat I know I love her

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
and I'm ready to be like Jesus in her life.
I know it

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
know she's doing this .

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Kim, stop it.
Why would you say you're sorry?
What do you I understand thatthe so sorry.
I'll start.
I'm, we're crate so messy andshe's like, no, I'm sorry.
I'm like, you have nothing to besorry for.
She said, Oh yes.
I tell.
I said, what?

(01:16:47):
What would she say?
This is when she told me aboutthe revelation, the revelation.
I said what?
She said, I am sorry for nevermothering you in prayer.
I only prayed because God toldme I was another hurting wife
that prayed.

(01:17:07):
I was reduced to another hurtingwife that prayed.

Speaker 9 (01:17:12):
I never prayed for you cause I loved you are
valued.
You are hurt for you are youonly hurt because of you?
Or God could never answer thatprayer.
Forgive me for not loving.
And I'm like, and I'm like,

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
where does this horrible cry Fest like messy?
And I said something about ourmarriage and she looked at me
and said, you mean there's hopefor her marriage?
I said, honey, are you kiddingme?
I'm finally ready.
I love Kim, the honor.
I loving you

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
And this thought came to me.
I didn't know any of this washappening.
I'm working beans now.
I'm holding my wife.
We're crying out of control.
We live in exciting life.
You imagine our neighbors,they're talking now my

(01:18:17):
neighbors.
Could you imagine I'm out in theyard and God speaks some to my
heart or I see God for gospelprinciple in the garden and now
I might rake slammed on theground and my hands are lifted
high and I'm talking out loud.
That's where my neighbors see.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Oh, I said, you mean there's hope for this marriage?
I sir, are you kidding me?
I'm fine.
And I said to her, I said, can Irenew my wedding vow to you?
She said, well, I didn't evenknow what I was going to say.
I said, can I renew my weddingvow to you right now?
And she said, ah, okay.
And guess what came out of myheart.
I was seven weeks old in theLord, seven weeks old

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chronologically that he wasgrowing.
I looked right in the eyes andguess what?
I said, psychologist, a lot ofChristians would crucify you for
saying this, brother.
That's the wrong take onmarriage.
Marriage, a lot of work, brothermarried or 50 50 no marriages.

(01:19:17):
I love you.
Watch what I said to her by thespirit of God, seven weeks old
in the Lord.
I looked right in the eyes and Isaid, Kim, you owe me nothing in
this marriage but to receive thelove of God from me.
And as long as I draw breath onthis earth, I will serve you in

(01:19:38):
his unfailing love.
And she said, okay.
And I just held her and I didn'tsay, let me get a pen and paper
so I can write your vows downand hold you till that day I
gave my life to her so that mylife in Christ would help bring
out the best in camp.
So when we get in that eightyear thing, guess what?

(01:20:00):
It was easy to love her.
Yay.
Here I am.
All these years later, my May1st to 37 years,

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
we've been married

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
24 of it in the Lord.
And I can tell you sincerely, Ilove my wife.
Yeah.
Why?
Cause I wake up to be more likehim.
I don't wake up for her to serveme.
She has no ability to break myheart.
Just like you don't.

(01:20:29):
You could write anything youwant about me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
You can't keep me from his presence.
You can't keep me from hearinghis voice.
You can't keep me from knowingthe truth.
You call me whatever you want,but you're way too late to debt
to me

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
cause I know him now.
So I didn't get to explain a lotof this.
I got more time with you today.
Knowing him is the biggest dealof your life, not knowing about
him, not quoting scripture, notreading to memorize it, knowing
him.
You know what the Lord spoke tomy heart a long time ago.

(01:21:05):
He told me I was going to speakto a lot of his people.
He said, I don't ever want you,I don't ever want you to read
your Bible to preach a sermon.
He said, only read your Bible toknow me and only speak out of
who I am in your life andthat'll carry weight.

(01:21:27):
Yes.
That's all I've done thismorning.
You can tell I didn't have areal straight path.
Probably got off my notes.
If there were some

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
[inaudible] said, where's your notes brother?
I did a pastor's conference andthe guy said to pastor, said, I
said, any questions, anything?
Nobody had questions.
I said, wow, that was thoroughpreaching.
Nobody has a question.
Not even a pastor, huh?
It was all pastors and the guysaid, ah, can I just have a copy
of your notes?
And I said, well, I'm a prettyattached to it.
I said, but here you go sir.
And I threw my Bible right?

(01:22:01):
So him and he caught it, caughthim off guard.
Just like when she caught it.
Good.
Got it.
And I sold it.
There's my notes.
He said, Oh, okay.
I said, I do want that back.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Nothing.
I'm closing right now and we'regoing to eat and fellowship.
If you can stay.
Nothing compares with yourability, God given ability to be
in his presence, to be with him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
You can say all day.
Well, it doesn't feel real.
Well, he doesn't seem well.
Why doesn't he?
Why is he so hard to reach?
Why is it gotta be about faith?

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Why this?
God wants you to build theknowings in your heart,

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
the beliefs in your heart where they become
knowings, where nothing canchange your mind.
You and I have lived central ourwhole lives.
We have been driven by feelingsand how we feel is dictating how
we're doing instead of what wetruly believe.
You got to take what you believeand get alone with God.
You youngsters, you can sit onyour beds at night.

(01:22:59):
You.
You know that mama tuck you in.
Stay in bed.
Don't let her hear your feetrunning around.
She say go to bed, but you couldlay in your bed before you fall
asleep.
Lord Jesus, I just believe inyou and I asked you to keep
revealing yourself to me and Ijust want to know you more and I
just, and you can communicatewith God like that as much as
y'all want.
I do it all the time.

(01:23:20):
I drive my car.
Father, thank you for justfather and me.
Thank you for loving me andputting who you are inside of
me.
God, what is on your hearttoday?
What do you want me to see, man?
What's in front of this day?
And I just communicate all thetime.
Garden walk, I just talking tohim all the time, I've developed
this relationship where he'svery real to me and then who he

(01:23:43):
is influences my life.
So now I'm not trying to be agood boy.
I'm not trying to do the rightthing.
I'm not trying to not sin, I'mjust enjoying being his and that
starts living my life.
Does that make sense?
Everybody in this room hascaught to that one truth right

(01:24:05):
there.
Remember I talked about lastnight, become in love and if we
don't become love, we've missedthe point.
That's what first John four saysfirst John four says, beloved,
let us love one another.
It's verse seven.
Why?
Because God is love the wholechapter.
He is love.
He is love.
It says if he loved this, hiswish, and we love one another.
So verse eight says, seven says,if we love where we are born of

(01:24:28):
God, and y'all know thechildren's church song, they
sing it in Sunday schools.
I grew up with it in the firstchurch of the brethren.
Beloved, let us love one anothery'all.
Some of you know that for loveis of God and everyone that
loveth is born of God and knowwith God, he who love is not.
No.
If not God for God is love.

(01:24:49):
Beloved, let us love on anotherfirst John four seven and eight
so some of you heard thatbefore.
Okay, watch this beloved.
Let us one another.
Why cause anyone?
Because God is love and anyonewho is born of God and not look

(01:25:11):
up the word knows God.
Watch, watch.
He who loveth the sea.
Love doesn't seek its own watch.
Love takes no account of thewrong done to it.
Come on this, I'm the Torben,some mushy gushy Hollywood movie
thing called love.

(01:25:32):
I'm talking Jesus.
Love takes no account, keeps norecord of the wrong done to it.
Why do we have such a goodmemory?
Love doesn't seek its own.
Watch.
He who love this not watch.

(01:25:55):
No.
If he said, if you don't love,there's one reason not to.
One, not two.
One he didn't say you don't goto church.
He didn't say you don't see yourneed for a savior.
Confess that you've sinned.
He didn't say none of that.
He said this though, if youdon't love, there's one, not two
.
One you don't know God like youcould, which means it's

(01:26:15):
impossible for me to know himand not be influenced by him to
the point of change.
So the evidence of knowing him,the Christian Bible barometer of
knowing God is your love.
Don't we sing the song?
And they'll know is by uh, byour love and they'll know that

(01:26:36):
we are Christians by our Jesussaid father, when they become
one, like where one, when theybecome one, like we're one, then
the world will now that you sentyour son, so go after him,

(01:26:57):
pursue him.
We have a question time thisafternoon.
You can ask me a millionquestions about that if you
want.
I'll talk all day and I lovequestions by the way, but what
I'm telling you is every one ofus has a God given right to be
with him.
It's the most important place ofyour life.
So be with him.
Don't let your heart get hurt,offended, angry.

(01:27:19):
Fill with excuses in yell butts.
Guard your heart because out ofyour heart flows the issues of
life.
Father, I just thank you forthis room.
I thank you for this time.
I just thank you for what you docalled.
Let these words be vital seedsin our lives and let them bring
forth fruit.
I pray that not one seed getschoked out by thorns, Stony

(01:27:42):
ground, left field.
I pray that God, you would justdo a work in us that would
manifest your great name and letyour nature be revealed through
our lives like no time before.
Let this be the greatest seasonof our lives.
In Jesus name.
Amen.
Amen.
Guys, I'm done for now whilehe's jumping up.

(01:28:04):
We're so, I've never done thisbefore.
No, I'm done.
You're never done.
I'm done.
You've got 10 minutes to no,they can hug, fellowship,
whatever.
But uh, no, and man, thanks forcoming up.
Once you shut up.
I'll bet like I must've beenfilled with unbelief.

(01:28:28):
No, no, no.
I was thinking, I was thinkingthis town, your schedules, who's
coming on a Saturday morning, Ithought they'd probably hardly
be anybody here, but the fewthat are here, we'll have a
great time.
But I didn't expect to see abunch of folks.
It seems like there's this manyhere, if not a couple more than
there was last night and then hegot all that food so we can have
fellowships.
So if he can stay, please stay.

(01:28:49):
I'm just humbled and excitedthat you're here.
I told you last night why I'mhere.
I'm here because I want to be in.
I believe what I'm preaching.
Nobody twisted my arm.
This isn't SAC.
Does it look like I'msacrificing,

Speaker 10 (01:29:02):
I'm here cause I want to be and I'm having the
time of my life.
Did you notice we didn't pass anoffering basket for me?
It's because I'm not receivingnothing from you.
I came to give you the gospel,so bless you.
Hug each other.
Make a friend.

Speaker 11 (01:29:32):
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Speaker 10 (01:29:32):
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