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Anybody else have a
question?
I know I'm getting a little latehere.
We'll shut down, sir.
I'll take like, well, we'll seehow long my answers
Speaker 3 (00:19):
walking in.
The FOMO sent in the joy of theLord.
How do you articulate the burdenof the Lord when as a believer
we see the corruption, the moraldepravity that surrounds us, and
how can the Holy shit, how canwe yield to the spirit to cry
out against the cry out to Godbecause of what we see in the
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land that is on God and also beled of the Lord to cry out and
take a stand against wickedness,still retain the joy of the
Lord.
So that is joy Permian.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Here's the deal.
You try and to set a personstraight that's living in the
Orin and he's saying, how can welook around, see lawlessness,
see depravity, see the state ofsome of the things that are
going on in the world andmaintain a joy and expression of
that.
Instill at the same time carrythe burden of the Lord and cry
out for them to be saved and notmove by the whole thing.
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Your answers right in yourquestion, it's the whole reason
you and I ought to all live intotal character and total
transformation so that peoplefirst have a living example in
front of them, not just adoctrine.
A lot of us are telling peoplethey need to knock it off.
Hey, the Lord is not pleasedwith that.
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Hey, you shouldn't be doingthat.
Hey, you know he's going to beleaving together.
It's one thing to tell peoplewhat they should and shouldn't
do.
It's another thing to live atransformed life and what you've
become, right?
So the burden of the Lord inthat situation is any way your
life can sew into the lives ofothers.
I've been around in worksituations with gay and lesbian
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people.
I've been around a lot of hottopic stuff in my life and the
people start to see myconsistency, my 24 seven
attitude in life and it actuallydraws them to me.
It actually gives me a voiceinto certain situations without
me getting the Bullhorn, so tospeak, in preaching out against
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it, to where all of a sudden youcan teach people who they are
and who they're created to beand it begins to separate them
from this contrary desire.
I never tell people youshouldn't do that.
I tell them you're more thanthat parents, here's a good
little tip and tool if you'lltake it, don't correct your
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children in frustration causeyou're at wit's end and they
pushed you too far.
Stop that.
Please don't ever touch yourchildren that way cause all
you're teaching them is that youhave an end and they can
frustrate you in there.
A frustration to you.
Don't say Billy, just just get,just knock it off to Billy.
Just get your room.
But, but mom, but dad, just stopit.
Just get to your room, Billy, ifI told you once, I told you a
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hundred, just get your room.
Please don't do that to yourchildren.
You sit Billy down and you teachBilly what it means to be in a
family.
You teach Billy would, it meansto participate.
You teach Billy that he is somuch more than what he's doing,
that his value is way higherthan his expression right now.
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And you teach Billy that ifthere's any consequences to his
actions, that it's becauseyou're trying to teach him that
if he keeps living from thisplace, it's gonna bring great
pain into his life.
Are you with me?
Yeah.
That's how you parent yourchildren in a nutshell.
Not because you're frustrated,because you know their more.
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It's a big deal.
And heaven goes with that kindof discipline and Holy spirit
goes with your words.
When you're just frustrated.
You can be a Christian, be anelder on a board and whatever.
But when you're frustrated, Ipromise you, Holy Spirit's not
going with your words,
Speaker 4 (04:02):
just telling you.
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Did I help a little
bit?
Now watch when you see thisstuff, it's, it should call us
into a higher expression ofintegrity and love it.
It's not a burden in a sense of,Oh God, you know, you know, I
can't believe they're doing thisand dah, dah, dah father, I
thank you.
They're like, okay, so, so incities you get the sneakers that
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used to be, I don't know if itis anymore, it used to be a sign
of gangs, sneakers, certainsneakers on certain places and
there's boundaries and theythrow him over the wires and,
and things.
And, and then there's writingsin certain symbols.
So then what what churches do isthey go, Oh my goodness, did you
see the new channel eight newslast night?
Did you see NBC or CBS?
There's gang activity in ourtown.
We need to call a prayermeeting.
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So then we come together and wecall a prayer meeting and it's
always trouble based.
It's because of a problem.
And rarely do you hear somethinglike this and that prayer
meeting father, these young menare so much more than they
understand called they've beenrobbed by things in life.
And things have happened to themthat have constrained them and
pottered them and made themfather, I pray for ways to reach
out for ways that you wouldwitness even through us and God.
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We pray for the redemption ofthese men's lives.
That sure beats would you getthem out of this town because
they're just going to go toanother town.
You said, well and then theyneed to pray them on.
No, you gotta, you gotta.
You gotta love your city to haveauthority to pray for it.
You don't pray for your citycause it's full of problems.
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You pray for your city causeit's full of destiny.
There's a difference.
One has faith and one is ruledby the facts in the flesh.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It's just true.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I've seen people that
are intercessors get caught up
in it and they get caught up inthe heart of sin and the pain
and in time inner seeding, theirhearts actually shift in.
They actually get angry, selfrighteous and judgemental and
don't even see it happeninguntil you bring it up.
I've watched it in intercessorsand they're sure they're doing
the work of the Lord and they'resaying the pastoral cutoff
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worship just a little bit early.
They think because they've beenpraying for this service all
week and now the pastor steps upand shuts down and they go, Holy
spirit was just about to mythand then they sit in their
living room all day and cry allday and say, Holy spirit
screaming.
No, you are being deceived.
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He did not cry all day and allafternoon because pastor cut off
the worst political early stop.
He's way bigger than that.
That's you with failedexpectations.
Just stop.
I've had to pastor this thing somuch over the years and I will,
I'll tell him that Holy spirit,that is not Holy spirit grieving
in you for seven hours becausethere's no answer.
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There's no redemption, there'sjust sadness and Whoa, bad
pastor.
So all of a sudden the pastor,after awhile I was controlling.
He's religious, he doesn'tfollow the spirit.
And that's why you're in achurch down the road and six
months later that pastor hasissues and now you're in a
church on the other side of townand next thing you know we're,
all these churches are full ofcontrol.
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No, you might need to sit downand get a grip because even if
they got their little issues,why are you being decided by
what they're not?
Are you hearing me?
Come on, I've been around allthis stuff.
Intercessors run a real risk ofthat stuff because they get to
believing and I have ledintercession for for years, I
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had a thing of intersession comeon me for a period I won't get
into.
So I understand a little bitabout that vein.
So I had a voice in it in mychurch because people saw that I
was a man of prayer.
But intercession is run a tightline where they start believing
nothing happened.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Ben's if it wasn't
for them
Speaker 6 (07:54):
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Speaker 5 (07:54):
it's just risky
place.
It's a day.
It's, that's a dangerous place.
Stay out of that place.
And if you pray for your city,it's because you love her and
she has a destination causeshe's full of problems.
Make sense?
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