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Just you and him
seriously.
That's when that's, when he getsreally, really real, like, like
you can learn so much about theLord.
You can sit under sermons, youcan sit under messages, you can
belong to a really cool churchand amazing church, but it's, it
seems like it's not until you,and you can have encounters with
God and touches, and, but it'snot until you really get alone
with him and really take thetime to be with him that you
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really get to know him.
And I mean, just, just that,like some of them songs we were
singing, you know, you couldjust sing some of them just to
him and just then begin to openyour heart and pray.
I use the scriptures a lot to,to stir my heart.
I might read a Psalm out loud inmy bedroom and just sit back on
my bed and, and, and just starttalking to the Lord through the
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Psalm, or I might just read asection of scripture, something
Paul wrote and, and just starttalking to the Lord.
And it's just really coolbecause you're one of two things
when you're in there doing that,you're either he's not real and
you're wasting your time and youshould get a hobby or he
is real.
And when you draw near to him,he's gonna draw near to you.
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And when you seek him, you'regonna find him, right?
Yeah.
So I'm just saying like, like inthe years I've been around and
the, the time I've spent withfolks, I would, I would venture
to say, this is just my thought.
And my, my observation, that thenumber one thing, if we're
lacking anything, the number onething we're lacking is really
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intimately knowing him isindividuals.
We know all about him.
We know what scripture saysabout him, but I'm talking about
really knowing him, like growingto a place where you're just
driving in your car and you justsay, king, Jesus, I love you so
much.
And you just know he's there.
Like, you just know he is there,are you with me?
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Yeah.
Is this really good?
So, uh, you're not gonna get todo that without spending time
with him.
You know, if we're married, youknow, you, you probably didn't
just hear about your spouse orsee a photograph.
I mean, I guess it happens, but,you know, Hey, and then just get
married, but you spend time, youget to know each other, you hang
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out.
It's like you guys, like, youknow, I'm staying in their home.
So I met you all at theoutpouring conference last year,
Michigan, but now I'm in theirhome.
So I didn't really know you guyswell, other than hay.
And I think you were with thekids a lot in the Michigan
thing.
Right.
And then Shannon and I got totalk to him a little bit, but
now we drove together.
We're hanging out.
So who knows that?
Just in the little bit of timewe're together, I can start
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saying that I'm knowing him alittle bit more Ethan.
The son-in-law, I mean, I got tomeet him last year.
He's hanging out.
He's here.
We spent a lot of time togetherin the car and giggling and
laughing about some things andjust having fun.
And who knows when I hear hisname, I just have a little more,
more tender affection and alittle more knowing when I hear
his name and I, that I know hima little more than I even knew
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his name before you see what I'msaying, man, it's no different
with the Lord guys.
Listen, like, like, I don'tknow.
I'm just gonna stay here.
I hope we're okay.
Like sometimes we, you could doa daily devotion because you're
reading the word and it seemsright to read the word and know
the word.
And we say, we're filling ourheart with the word, but you can
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actually read your dailydevotion and never make personal
contact or be intimate towardthe Lord.
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Amen.
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You see what I'm
saying?
Like, like you could do church,you could do Christian things.
You could serve in a ministryand all those things can slowly
subtly take the place of knowinghim and being with him.
And the reason I'm talking aboutit is because it's knowing him
that changes your life.
Not knowing about him, knowingabout him.
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Isn't one changes your life.
It's knowing him that changesyour life.
I use my neighbor all the time.
She's passed now.
She passed away two summers ago,but she was 94.
And, uh, she was her neighbor.
The whole time we lived thereand her husband passed the first
year she woke up and he wasbeside her.
And he had a heart attack in themiddle of the night.
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And, and it was way before Iknew Jesus.
And, but she saw me get changedand saved.
And I would sit out on her benchand talk to her about the Lord.
And, and uh, but I mowed hergrass.
I traveled all the time, but Imowed her grass and loved it.
I, I trimmed her hedges.
I'd climb up on a ladder andclean her gutters.
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And she was just my neighbor.
She was a little lady and shewas my neighbor.
We had some work done on ouroverhangs and stuff one time.
And, and we had a little signout there.
They, the, the people that didthe work, put the sign out there
to advertise their business.
She looked out her window andthought it was her first sale
sign.
Oh.
And it's pretty cool.
When your neighbor comes runningacross the grass crying,
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She said, I didn't
know you were moving.
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I said, honey, we're
not moving.
What?
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Well, you got this
sign in New York.
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I said, no, I just
held her in New York.
But see, I live, we lived besideeach other for what, 30 years.
And, and, and after a while,just being around her, just
observing and just being around,I could have probably, if I had
to talk about her, I could haveprobably stood here and talked
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for 15 minutes about details.
20 minutes, solid details abouther.
And she had to like red, herjackets were always red.
She, she was, she, she wasfrugal.
She wear her jacket till therewas actually noticeable holes in
that thing.
And then she'd come out with abrand new red jacket when she
still drove.
Her car was bright red.
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Uh, Friday, the lady that pickedher up had to take her to get
her hair done.
It must have been hair day, cuzshe'd come back.
And she looked really nice.
She definitely loved McDonald'scoffee cuz in the mornings
another lady would drop her offand she'd have the big old am on
her cups and she'd be headinginto the house and took two
walks a day.
So I could tell you a lot abouther, but until I knock on her
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door And we look in each other'seyes and exchange names and
touch hands, I can't tell you.
I know her.
I could observe her.
I could be right next door.
I could be where she is.
Jesus said to some people in theBible, you don't know me.
And, and they said, but weren'twe there when you spoke weren't
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we in the streets with you?
Didn't we eat with you.
And he said, you ne I never knewyou just make sure you don't let
that happen to you because thebiggest blessing and gift that I
see that Jesus did was get usback to the father.
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Amen.
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I know we make it
heaven, but he's the way back to
the father.
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This
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Is the biggest thing
he did.
He got us back to father.
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Amen.
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Yeah.
That's why we live forever.
We're one with the eternal one.
He's never gonna die.
So neither are you.
So God never made man to die.
He said, the day you eat thetrees today, you surely die.
Which means death.
Wasn't in the picture untilman's sin.
Death came.
So Jesus swallowed it all upthrough the cross and restored
all things.
So we're not gonna die.
Why weren't made to die from thebeginning, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
But we're made to be with him.
Yes.
So just pursue relationship,pursue knowing him and, and that
might look a little differentwith you than it looks with me.
Sometimes I'll play soft music.
Sometimes I don't play anything.
I just lay in music andmeditate.
Sometimes I get loud and gobonkers
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And sometimes I'm
really quiet.
I was so bonkers one day in mybedroom, my mother-in-law came
over and she took off sneak intoher car.
She thought I lost it, fell offthe wagon.
That was her phrase cuz she wasan AA lady, you know?
And she said, she said, Ithought you fell off the wagon.
Not that I had ever, eversubstance abuse.
I was just abuse I wasjust a bad guy.
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I just was not loving andinsensitive.
And I was mean a lot.
And I didn't even feel like Ihad a natural love for my kids
before I saved.
It was awful.
And uh, I was so, so mean to mywife.
And when she came over, I wasupstairs.
She heard me yelling at the topof my lungs from the outside at
the back door.
And she thought, oh, he isfreaking out on them guys.
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And she got scared.
And instead of running intotheir rescue, she snuck away to
the car
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And when she got to
the car, she realized my wife's
car wasn't even there.
And she thought, well Kim's noteven home.
Who's he yelling at?
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.
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So she came around a
house.
It really impacted her.
She told my wife, it meant somuch to her to know that nobody
was home and I wasn't on aplatform and it wasn't anywhere
around anybody.
It was just me and Jesus in aroom.
And I was going bonkers.
Like I stay calm for you guys.
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I do.
I'm very controlled.
Sometimes people think I'm alittle out there, but when they
think I'm a little out there,when I'm getting excited, I am
barely scratching.
What I am when I'm with him.
When you ain't looking, see cuzright now I'm supposed to make
sense.
Not just manifest
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I'm supposed to make
sense.
I mean, I'm do no good to justsit here and scratch the fleas
behind my ear.
I'm supposed to speak truth andmake sense.
But if I'm besides myself, it'sfor God.
There's a place where I'm justalone with him and it's real.
And so she'd come around thecorner and was listening and I
was probably, probably yellingstuff like this.
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Thank you for saving me.
Thank you for changing my lifeforever.
I'm so grateful.
My life is yours doing me.
What you desire?
God, I'm all in.
I'm yours.
Use every aspect of my life foryour glory.
Just freaking out screaming.
Well, why do you gotta yellbrother?
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Cuz I was pumped and excitedabout making sure I heard
myself.
Yeah, come on.
It's just okay.
To be okay like that.
Yeah.
Wonder if you just, just learnto wake up and believe the
gospel every morning and justwake up in the morning and
before you think about your dayand what's on your plate and
when your meeting is and how yougot these four errands and how
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are you even gonna squeeze inthis to lunch and you know what
I'm saying?
Wouldn't it be amazing to justbe with him?
Wouldn't it be amazing.
Just open up your eyes and knowyou're his not try to be his
know you're his
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Yes.
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Wouldnt it.
Be amazing to wake up and knowyour righteous.
Not try to be righteous.
Know your righteous because ofthe blood of Jesus.
Just wake up and be forgiven.
Just wake up and be his bewashed, be clean, be pure and
holy and blameless in his sight.
Colossians one just because heis who he is.
Wouldn't it be amazing to wakeup every day and just believe
that and start your day in thattruth.
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Yes.
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Well that would take
away guilt, condemnation, low
esteem, self consciousness, comeon.
It would take away all thatstuff.
It would take away.
You thinking less of who youreally are because the reason
you think you're that is becauseof past practice, your own
assessment.
You've taught yourself whoothers have suggested who you
might be.
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All right?
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And we buy into that
and then Jesus comes along and
says, Nope, this is who you are.
This is who I paid for you tobe.
And this is how I see you.
Love you.
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If
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You don't start where
he finished, what you ended up
when he was done, what you werewhen he was done doing the work
he did what you were when he wasfinished.
If you don't start there, you'llnever run.
Well, you'll try to accomplishthings that are already done.
Watch how simple this is.
Are you okay?
Are we okay on this topic rightnow?
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Are you guys okay?
I'm just going wherever I'mgoing here.
I don't have a strong plan.
So I'm just trusting.
We'll be right.
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Did you know how
people they did noble?
It seems noble and committed.
Like they wake up and they thinktheir goal is to like maybe try
to do better today or try not tosin.
Try to make it till 10 o'clockbefore their conscience is
violated or some cause somepeople have this belief they're
just perpetual sin.
They're taught that they believethey're sinning while they're
breathing and their sins.
They're committing that theyhave no awareness of now I
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understand you can grow insensitivity and stuff, but it
does the Christian.
No good to believe that it's nota humble mindset.
It's very deceived.
Cause the Bible says you toreckon yourself dead.
Indeed.
Sin, not boast in your abilityto commit it or dare think that
you're walking perpetual sin.
How can you reckon yourself deadto sin and then talk about your
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ability to commit it.
Why is the thought of sin in ourconversation a lot.
When people talk onrighteousness people's minds
shift and go well.
Yeah, but nobody's perfectbrother.
We all make a mistakes.
We're all gonna, we're alwaysgonna sin.
Brother.
Do you ever hear Christians feellike they have to talk like
that?
The gospel, the Bible teachesyou to not talk like that.
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And it's the way we tend to talka lot that you can hardly talk
about righteousness cuz we feelit's humble to talk about our
ability to sin.
No, it's humble to believe whathe accomplished and paid for.
Come on.
If Roman six has reckon yourselfdead indeed to sin, how can you
reckon yourself dead indeed.
To sin and talk about yourability to commit it and call it
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humility.
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Are
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You guys okay?
Some of you're looking at mefunny.
I see it.
It's alright.
Not bothered by that.
If you wake up and try not tosin, where's your consciousness
sin.
You're gonna be taking your owntests.
You're gonna be grading your ownscore.
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And by the end of the night,you'll see yourself the way you
performed.
And the reason you performed,the way you performed is cuz
your consciousness was towardsweakness and inability in sin.
And that was probably gonna bethe level of your fruitfulness
or assessment.
And at the end of the day,instead of looking how you've
grown or what seed you sewn,you're probably more conscious
of what you could have donebetter.
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So there's no life in thatassessment.
So you don't even affordyourself.
The ability to grow up into him.
Are you with me?
Yeah.
And then, because that becomestrue.
You don't see yourself clear.
You don't see yourself well intime you don't feel good about
yourself.
You don't even know if you'refor real sincere, you question
your own heart.
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So if that's the case, how wouldyou ever have confidence to go
be alone with him and do what wewere just talking about and be
with him.
If you don't see yourself,clearly, if you don't have a
good view of who you are in himand towards him and you don't
see how he sees you, how wouldyou have the conscious awareness
and confidence to be with him?
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Ma'am
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You see what happens
to folks?
I'm talking good folks.
I'm not talking to roomhypocrites.
I'm talking to his kids.
I'm talking to people that wakeup and desire to do the best
they can do that.
Love God the best theyunderstand God.
They come to a conference likethis to grow and learn and
increase and experience whateverthey can in the Lord.
I am not talking to a room ofhypocrites, but the things that
I'm talking about are happeningto people in this room to where
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all of a sudden your identitygets infringed on cuz of wrong
thinking and believing.
And then it hinders your abilityto be with him.
And I'm telling you the strategyenemy.
One of his main goals is to keepyou from him.
He doesn't mind you going tochurch, attending a conference.
He doesn't even care.
If you sing loud and raise bothhands,
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That's true.
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He cares when you
start being with him and you
start believing what the bloodis.
Speaking.
When you start believing whathe's saying about you through
the crucifixion of his son,that's when he gets a little
nervous.
When you actually startbelieving you're loved by God
that you're priceless.
That you're treasured, thatyou're empowered by his spirit.
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That you can do all thingsthrough Christ who strengthens
you.
That you're lacking.
No good thing.
Yeah.
When you start believing thosethings, he gets a little
nervous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You start loving one another.
You start slapping yourneighbor.
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I thought, man, I
better get up and preach on
peace and restoration.
We all slapping each other.
he said slap threepeople.
I'm thinking, I hope somebodydon't have unresolved conflicts
in the church and use that foran excuse.
Hey,
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Hey,
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That was a little
hard oh,
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Like man, slap three
people.
I just pictured a spouse facingthe other way.
And I was like, he said, it wasfunny.
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There's a power in
waking up.
One of the first things.
Holy spirit taught me when I gotsaved was to receive what Jesus
paid for and to say yes to everyyes of the father and to talk to
him personally about it sayingstuff like this father, thank
you for loving me.
I so appreciate that.
You valued me so much that yousent your son that you never
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changed your mind about me.
No matter how lost I was, nomatter how mean I lived no
matter how redundant and, and,and, and just over and over
repetitive willfulness seems tobe in my life up until this
point.
Like you never let go of mypotential.
You never reassessed yourevaluation of my purpose.
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No matter how lost I was, itnever changed why I was here in
your eyes.
God, I love you so much.
No one has ever loved me likethis.
Now I've talked to a lot ofpeople that never really think
that way.
Let alone talk that way to him.
Good Christian people that arefaithful in their churches.
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I've counseled a lot of peoplein my life.
And I ask a lot of questions.
I, I I'm a talker, but man, I'ma real good listener.
And I know how to find out wherepeople are.
And, and, and I ask a lot ofquestions and I I've learned
that a lot of people haven'teven comprehended this or
considered or thought to havethat kind of communion.
Like, like they've lived for 15years, a Christian and never
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stopped in the middle of theroom or in the middle of the
moment.
And just said, thanks for lovingme, Christian 15 years had never
just said, thanks for loving me.
It's just so powerful becauseit's receiving his love and, and
, and you're rooted and groundedin love.
And faith work is through love.
And when you see how he seesyou, it begins to train your
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eyes to look the same way.
When you start seeing how hevalues, you you'll start seeing
how he values everyone.
Cuz we're all the same in him.
Like, like we all are loved andtreasured.
He died once for all, all of asudden I get a good view of who
I am in him.
And now I love him with all myheart, my soul, my strength.
And then I love my neighbor asmy Wonder, if you don't have a
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good view of yourself, all right, wonder if you're loving your
neighbor that way, love yourneighbor
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Yourself.
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Wonder if you're
seeing others the way you're
seeing yourself and the wayyou're seeing yourself.
Isn't through him.
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Right?
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Wonder if you're
nitpicky and fault finding.
Wonder if you're self condemned,wonder if you're trapped in
works.
And then all of a sudden youlook around and you notice
what's wrong in people.
Instead of see what they'recalled to and created for wonder
if your eye gets skewed likethat.
And all of a sudden you seewhat's wrong in people and you
pick out their weaknesses.
Why cuz you got your weaknessesand now that's what you see.
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Yeah.
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Yeah
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Man.
One of the greatest things aregetting free.
Getting free from yourself andfree from living for you and
being a Christian for you.
You're a Christian for his greatname.
You're Christian for his glory.
And you're a Christian for thesake of others.
Man, when you get that settledin your heart through
relationship and communion,you're just laying on your bed
in the early morning.
You don't even have to turnanything on.
You don't have to yell.
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You don't have to shout.
You can even do it in yourheart.
I promise some people think youhave to talk always out loud.
You can just do it in yourheart, man.
It's just before the Lord andyou, you could just be laying
there and starting your day likethat.
Lord, I thank you that the wholereason I'm alive is to shine and
walk in your image.
God, no one owes me a thingtoday.
God, I am not positioned to bedisappointed.
I'm positioned to love God.
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I am so positioned to live bythe spirit to walk in your grace
and to manifest your great nameand your wisdom.
Thank you.
Holy spirit for living in me andempower me.
I'm so excited to be alive.
Thank you for another day.
Come on.
That's sure.
Beach dreading the moment thatsure.
Beats waiting for somebody togive you your due.
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Amen.
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That shore beach,
just waking up and hoping your
spouse just acknowledges you theway you've been Pring.
Be careful with thatstuff.
I'm telling you a lot of it isjust borderline idolatry stuff.
You're letting where people areand people aren't decide where
you are and it's not cool cuzthe truth the whole time, the
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truth is the same and the truth.
Hasn't changed the whole time.
They're failing to love you thewhole time.
They're failing to say the rightwords.
The whole time they're failingto acknowledge you.
Jesus is the same and he wantsto be Lord through your life.
And you're putting your eyes onother things and letting that
matter more.
Are you with me?
Yeah.
I'm telling you this personalrelationship thing.
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This is intimacy with God andit's probably talked about more
nowadays than it's ever beentalked about.
But I think in the last 15, 20years, it hasn't been talked
about like it could a lot ofdemonstration of power, a lot on
healing, a lot on prophetic, alot on gifting.
But what about just knowing him?
What about being molded andshaped by the beauty of who he
is in his presence so that whohe is begins to be your
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expression to where actuallyyou're living from the place
that he dwells.
You're looking through his eyes.
You see?
And for the first time, maybe inyour life clearly what he's
always beheld.
And when you look at people, youactually see what was always
there.
See, before I was a Christian, Iused to think if God tweaked
you, life would be better.
I used to think peoplewere weird.
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A lot.
Most people are borderline weirdand if God would just tweak them
a little life would be better.
And I'd think God, if you're outthere, why don't you take your
little tweak gun and just, andjust make people better?
Like, why are they weird?
And I never considered hewanting to transform me.
And I never thought that I couldbe part of the problem because
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you're proud in your own mind,your own opinion.
You're proud in your ownpreferences and you know, you
just certain people you like andcertain people you don't like,
and we get used to that and it'snot heaven.
It's not the Lord.
That's the fall of man.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Picking and choosing who youlike and who you don't like.
Well, they just bother me.
Well, run that by Jesus and seeif he feels the same way.
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and you
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Ought to be glad he's
who he is.
Or he might say no, you'reactually the one that really
bothers me.
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I've been praying to
the father.
You change any day now?
No, I'm just having fun withyou.
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But
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Seriously, some of
these things we have just
learned by, we think they'renormal.
We've just learned by living inlife.
And when you really look atJesus, he's not that way.
Is he?
So some of these meetings andsome of these things, we do.
We just talk about this stuffbecause I don't know about you.
I don't know how you think whenyou're all alone.
I don't know what you do whenyou're sitting in a room alone
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with him.
I I'm not saying what you do isright or wrong.
I'm I just know he's taught mesome of this stuff where I'll
sit on my bed and I'll I'll evenget emotional.
Sometimes I'll see the beauty ofgrace.
Grace is God's empowerment.
Like grace is God giving you hisability.
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That's
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Right.
Grace is something that comesfrom God that makes you what you
can never be on your own.
Yeah.
And, and, and grace is somethinghe paid for through his son.
Yeah.
And you receive grace throughfaith.
So every time I release faith inthe truth, grace comes to make
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that truth.
My reality, not just mytheology, are you with me?
So I'll sit on my bed and I'lljust talk to him about grace.
I'll say, father, I just wonevery ounce of grace that you
paid for to come on my life.
And in no way, let one drop agrace, missed my life.
Don't position me, Lord, give mewisdom and teach me how to be in
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a place to receive everythingyou accomplish to become
everything you've seen anddesired.
When you talk like that, it's sointimate.
You're actually believing heloves you and has purpose in
your life.
You're actually believing he'swilling to reach down his mighty
hand and empower you with who heis.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So it's just another
way of saying, I know you love
me.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And, and being real
about it.
And, and, and I, I rememberstuff, holy spirit used to just
teach me things in thebeginning, how to pray intimate
and personal like that.
I'm just giving you someillustrations.
Don't go try to copy'em or quotehim, just talk to him from your
heart.
Don't don't say that I had someladies in a conference.
It's a real story.
It was, it was, it was cute.
But it was, it was sadly funny.
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It was like, no, no, no, ladies,I am not telling you a thing.
Stop.
They, they were so sincere.
There's three of them.
They ran up middle aged ladies.
They had their little pens intheir, and they said, we love
you so much.
We listened to on YouTube and wewatch you.
And they were just being sweet.
And they said, do you have aminute?
And I said, yeah.
And they said, we are so excitedto be here.
We were hoping we could get somepersonal time with you just to
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talk to you.
I said, okay.
And they said, we, we want youto tell us what your day looks
like when you wake up, like yourtime with the Lord, like how
much of it is prostratekneeling?
How, how much is singing?
How much is praying?
Like, and I thought I was gonnabe like producing a Christian
aerobics video or something, youknow?
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I was like, are youcommunion aerobics video?
I'm like, no, no, no.
I'm not.
I'm not telling you.
I spend, I don't even know howto answer that question.
What's relationship look like,like we hang out.
And sometimes he overwhelms meand I can't get off my face.
Sometimes I'm standing with him.
Some, sometimes I'm just sittingon my bed, weeping.
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Sometimes I'm just sitting softand tender and giggling and
whatever.
And you would think I'm flaky.
If you're looking in, you know,how do you describe
relationship?
It's not, we're not robots.
It's not a method.
It's not a blend.
It's not do this, this and this.
And your heart will go.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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Just be with him.
Accept what he says.
Say yes.
When he says yes.
If he puts Jesus on a cross andsays, love you, don't say, I
can't imagine how he could loveme.
Say, wow, thank you.
When he raises him from the deadand he gives him the keys of
hell and the death hell and thegrave and says I'm for you.
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I'm not against you.
I'll never leave you and neverforsake.
You don't say well, I sure hopeGod doesn't let me down.
I just feel alone.
Well, I don't know.
Thank you God.
You're always here.
Thank you.
Always have wisdom in themoment.
Thank you father.
That you're teaching andtraining me in the midst of
life.
God, you're so good to me.
Yeah.
I'm telling you if we would justembrace that, kind of go to him
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that way in our own way, butwhat's real to us.
It would empower us and we wouldstay like this and we would be
impacting people all around uswithout knowing it without
knowing it.
I get so many testimoniesthrough my life of people that
were watching from the sidelinethat, that were noticing from a
distance that in timeconsistency and, and something
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just broke and now their earcould finally hear again.
Yeah.
I've had people tell me, man, Ijust saw your life.
And I was watching and I gave upin Christianity and I was
touched strong.
And I used to go to church andda, da, da.
But you know, there's somethingabout your life and, and just
watching you and listening.
And I know we haven't talkedmuch.
I've had this at work and, andthe one guy called me at my, at
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my, uh, church office.
When I was pastoring, after Ileft and said, you caused my
ears to hear again.
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Amen.
Wow.
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And we didn't have
any one on one.
He just watched my life from adistance.
He stayed at a distance cuz hedidn't understand.
He was a little frustrated.
He's mad at God.
Cause his mom died of cancer.
He saw a lot of things fromChristians.
He actually told me somethingthat wasn't a compliment and
it's not your fault.
You're this isn't way on you.
He just, this was just hisexperience.
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He said, you're the firstChristian I've ever met.
That lived what he said and, andhow he responded.
And, and wasn't just likeanybody else see a lot of people
aren't impressed by you going tochurch because that's not what
makes you a Christian Christlikeness is what makes you a
Christian Christian doesn't meanchurch attender.
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Christian means little Christ.
Like one.
Yes.
Now it's right to gatheryourself together.
It's right to assemble together.
Do I believe going to church isawesome.
Yes.
Why?
So we can sharpen, train andequip and stir up for love and
good works and keep our heartsencouraged and not grow weary
and well doing and know we'regonna reap if we don't lose
heart.
So the life never sneaks up onus and starts speaking louder
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than truth.
And we never get way laid bystuff.
That's the importance ofgathering together, cheering
each other on staying sharp.
Yeah.
But, but gathering together.
Isn't what makes you a ChristianChrist's likeness is what makes
you a Christian.
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Think what we do to ourchildren, don't get condemned by
this.
Don't get condemned by this.
Think what we do to our childrenwithout even realizing it at a
young age, we say, well, my, mybabies are grown up in church.
My kids are grown up in church.
So we get, get ourselvestogether and we go to church and
we might not even went to churchbefore we had the children, but
we talked about it.
We, but now the childrenmotivators, we thought, you
know, I want them to grow up inchurch.
Who's ever felt that way.
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Or had parents talk that way orthink that way.
Right.
But here's the paradox.
We take the kids to church andwe're faithful at that and
vacation Bible school and intheir little programs.
And, and then they come up onmother's day and it's all sweet.
And it's oh my baby's in church.
But watch, if you are notpursuing to be more and more
like him, when you're not atchurch, then what you're
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inadvertently doing without evenrealizing it.
You're teaching your children.
That Christianity is churchattendance instead of living
Christ.
Amen.
So if you're just, ah, at homeunresolved, conf screaming at
each other, putting each otherdown, shouting them down.
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Johnny, I told you how manytimes get to your room.
Just get to your room.
But dad, but mom, just get toyour room up.
Deal with you later, boy.
Then we gonna go to church.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
all right.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's not cool because
you don't realize inadvertently
what you're teaching them.
You're teaching him.
Christianity is what you do inchurch.
Not what you become in him.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Don't get condemned
by that.
Be challenged by that.
And if that shoe fits, just kickit off, just scream and kick it
all.
don't be Cinderella.
Don't perfect fit.
just kick the thing offand say not anymore.
Wow.
That was sober.
Let that be a aha moment.
You know, I wish repentancerather than guilt and
condemnation and shame.
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I wish true.
Repentance would just be like,duh, duh, what was I thinking?
And then, all right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's repentance.
I wish we'd have more duh.
Instead of, oh man, I reallyfeel crummy now.
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I've been messing up my kids.
Okay.
So now what suffer and condemngo to hell.
no make change.
Invest good seed.
Get a new crop.
Get a new harvest.
Teach your children.
The beauty of change inrepentance.
All of a sudden, your littlechild saying mommy, daddy, how
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come I remember you guys don'tfight.
Like you used to fight.
I remember you used to yell atmommy and I didn't like that
daddy, but I'm thankful youdon't even yell at mommy.
Like you used to who knows?
Kids will be straight and rolland talk like that.
What a joy, if they saysomething like that, it's not.
Oh yeah.
I know.
I used to really shout at yourmom.
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No.
Well, I can tell you exactly whyhoney.
And then you share the beauty ofwhat you're becoming and the
beauty of your relationship andall of a sudden, your little
girl realizes, wow, we can growup into him and all things.
And we might not be doingeverything right, but we can get
ahold of truth and we can goafter it.
We can become wonder if yourcoworkers need to see that.
I wonder if your coworkers say,well, that ain't been you for
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the last three years, pal, wherehas Jesus been in your life?
All of a sudden you live inJesus for the next six months.
So true that they forget thelast three years cuz of the last
six months is right in front oftheir face.
Oh, that's just so good.
Yeah.
So don't find a way to talkaround this or out of this.
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This is your calling.
Whether anybody in your lifewants to run this way or not.
You still have to answer whatyou are gonna do with the
gospel.
Like when you stand beforeJesus, you're not gonna have
your whole peer group aroundyou, your spouse, isn't gonna be
there.
You're not gonna be able to say,you know, I'd really believed in
you.
If it wasn't for her, you know,Lord, I don't followed you more.
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If it wasn't for him, I prayedabout him.
How much you never answered me, you won't be able to
even think that you'll just lookinto his FIY eyes of love and
the light and truth of who heis.
And you go, oops, I've beentricked and deceived.
I've let my husband where he isor my wife and where she was
matter more than who he is inme.
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Wow.
I've been determined by myspouse, not the Lord.
All right.
And you're probably just gonnago oops and cry and fall on this
mercy.
And hopefully he'll just dry.
Every tear and things will workout okay.
In the end.
But why would you wanna loseyour fruitfulness and this the
father's well pleased that youbear much.
Well, it's not that you get muchblessing that you bear much
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fruit.
You know what true blessing iswhen you bear much fruit, when
you see somebody's life touchedand changed because your life
had a part in it and your changehelped change them.
What a payday, right?
That's right.
You, you think you, you think Ineed a promotion or more money
or a nicer car or favor frompeople that's favor.
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That's blessing.
That's purpose.
That's like, Woohoo, you, yougot a spouse coming up and
crying and telling you they wereabsolutely gonna leave their
husband.
And they had nothing in theirheart for their husband.
And they listened on YouTube toone message and cried their
little eyes out and said, I'vebeen deceived.
I've allowed my husband todecide my heart.
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I've been blinded.
They lifted their hands.
Start praying God illuminatessome pools off the veil.
They look at their husband andhave a whole new desire.
I get that testimony a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Yeah.
That is a yay.
that's exactly how Ifeel.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's a payday.
And he did a payday Last year.
I had two people in a couplemonth period.
Come to me.
They were legally divorced bythe courts.
One for a year and a half.
And one for two years, theydidn't find a significant under.
They didn't go out and getremarried.
You didn't grab another person.
Did you ever notice, don't getcondemned by this.
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If you're in this room and youfit this scenario, did you ever
notice how quickly when peoplesplit up, they rejoin to
somebody else.
How quickly that's alarmingsometimes to me.
Cause cuz we gotta, we we'reliving this way.
We gotta feel valued.
We gotta get, we don't wanna belonely.
We gotta.
So as soon as this is over, thisis started.
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Yeah.
The ones that really concern meis when this is started before
this is over and this startingis what makes this over.
Don't get tricked like that.
If you've ever been tricked likethat, say duh, and don't do it
again.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah.
But they were together a yearand a half and two years, two
separate couples.
And this, this is amazingtestimony.
This, uh, cuz this, this firstcouple ended up coming to a
service together and they gotborder baptized together and the
pastor remarried him.
It was just bizarre.
It was so fun.
But, but she was on YouTube ayear and a half after the court
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finalized her divorce and theyhadn't talked to each other one
time, Shannon went their ways.
They just went their ways.
There was no children involved,so they didn't need the parent.
They just divorced.
See ya.
See ya good riddens bye year anda half later she gets on
YouTube.
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I don't know how I popped upthere.
She's watching YouTube.
She said she was cryingsenseless.
She just, just felt like truthwas flooding her.
And she wasn't like, I wish myhusband would've heard this.
She was like, I've beendeceived.
I've allowed my husband todetermine me.
I've allowed my heart to bedictated by his life.
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And, and, and in that season Iwas just a hurting hard
unforgiving woman.
And even though he had plenty ofissues, I let his issues roll
over on me.
Wow.
My husband formed my life.
I'm a product of what I'vedetested.
I've turned out of this thing,deceived.
This is the truth.
She fell in the mercy.
God crying, asking God toforgive her, kept listening.
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All of a sudden this desire tosee her husband and to talk to
her husband, start to birthingher heart a year and a half
later.
She didn't know, know where hewas.
She wasn't sure how to get aholdof him.
But she figured all that out.
Somehow probably stood a littleFacebook search.
It's not hard nowadays.
I guess to find people, shefound him, it would be hard for
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me.
I'm a caveman, but I am, unlessJesus told me where you were,
I'm probably lost
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So, uh, but she
tracked him down.
She called him.
And when he answered, she saidwho it was.
And he immediately began to cry.
And she's like, why are youcrying?
And he said, I've been thinkingof you.
And it's been on my mind.
So heavy if we made a bigmistake.
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And she said, oh we did.
She said, I'm gonna send you alink.
You gotta listen to this.
He called her back sobbing andslobbing and she said, this
man's gonna be down in Alabama.
You wanna meet me there and situnder the services and just get
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washed in this truth.
He said, I would love to, theysat there for four or five
sessions and just sobbed.
And then they come up and said,would you water baptize us
together?
And they just recommitted theirlives to God forgave each other.
They did some marriagecounseling and got their license
together and got remarried.
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Isn't that fun?
I just think that's fun.
The, the testimony right afterthat, they were, they were
separated two years or divorced,legally divorced two years.
And the messages turned theirheart around and turned their
life around.
See, it's your eye Guys.
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It's your eye.
That's the lamp of your body.
Scripture teaches a that it'sMatthew six.
It's Luke 1134.
The eye is the lamp of yourbody, where you live from right
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here.
Your motive, your perspective,your reason for being your will,
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Where
Speaker 2 (41:29):
You're living from
right here.
Determines exactly how you'llbe.
If your eye is single, yourwhole body's flooded with light.
If your eye's not single there'sdarkness, it says if the, if the
light in you is darkness, do youhear that?
If the light in you is darkness,that means you're made for the
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light.
But if the light has becomedarkness, perversion, just how
great is that darkness?
What's he saying just where isyour view?
Just how twisted is your vision,your view, where are you living
from?
Cause the Bible says if my eyeis single healthy, looking
through truth, my whole body isflooded with light.
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It doesn't say unless of courseyour spouse just did the
unthinkable unless youjust lost the loved one.
See cuz your eye can be singlein all those arenas too.
And you could already settle.
It's not about you.
It's about his great name andpeople.
The honor of that, the integrityof living that way by faith,
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where you really actuallybelieve your life is for the
honor of his name and thatyou're gonna leave a legacy for
all time.
That's gonna speak on his behalfwith this little window called
life.
Or you can get hurt, frustrated,disappointed, yell, butt.
And he said, she said, And timewill just slip by or you can
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settle in your heart.
You're gonna live for the gloryof his name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You see why just live by faith.
You better wrap faith aroundthis stuff or your feelings will
swallow you up and what somebodysaid or eat you alive and you'll
play it over in your head 10times till you're hurt.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Speaker 2 (43:24):
All of a sudden, you
have a reason for being whatever
you are, but whatever you are,doesn't look like him and you'll
be justified.
Cuz you thought about it so longand found two friends that agree
with your pay.
And then you're sentimentallyconnected with them because
they're the only ones thatreally understood in your dark
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season.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Speaker 7 (43:49):
I'm on it right now.
I might be in trouble.
I'm backing up.
I didn't know if anybody wasthrowing anything.
I good more.
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We do it a lot.
And then, then you then is it
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Dead giveaway if
you're living that way or are
you doing anything for the gloryof his name?
Nope.
You might be singing in hisname.
You might be praying in hisname, but you're living for
yours.
You will take no account of thewrongs you suffer when you
understand and become love.
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And the reason you'll do that iscuz love doesn't seek its own.
So this intimacy communion thingI started with.
Wonder if you would just wake upevery morning and talk to him
like this just a little bit.
Just you say I don't have thatmuch time.
I can't spend hours.
Don't relationship is being withhim anyway.
Okay.
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If these guys made appointmentsand spent an hour in the morning
together and then didn't talkthe rest of the day and at night
just said, Hey goodnight.
And then the next morning theydid their hour appointment.
Would they be very close?
Speaker 5 (45:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
No.
They gotta do life together.
You see?
Well, I don't have time with andI'm I'm a mother and I got a job
and I'm I can't always bepraying.
No it's developing arelationship.
It's a communion with the Lord.
It's coun.
Right?
So when is he not in you?
When's he not with you?
When's he?
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Not as close as to mention ofhis name.
Jesus
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Speaker 7 (45:42):
Yeah, he's
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Good on.
So in the midst of mothering andfour children running, you say
five, five somebody's at six,six, I got six.
I got seven.
I got seven.
Those
Speaker 7 (46:03):
You go,
Speaker 2 (46:04):
You got eight kids
running around, man.
It's not that you have to be onyour knees.
Right?
You're conscious of the Lordfather.
I thank you for the wish ofmothering his children.
God, I you're doing wash andyou're pulling out the wash and,
and instead of saying, you know,you think I'd be married to this
washing machine.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's a floor flow to
wash in two days.
It seems like all I do is wash,wash, wash, wash, gone.
I don't know why I had all thesekids.
I thought it was gonna be ablessing to have all basketball,
the kids, but I married to hiswasher.
Come on at the same time, thehusband's husband's driving to
work and it's 95 and the roof'sgonna be hot.
And he's just mad that he has tofeed all these mouths and be on
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that hot scorching roof and doroof in one more day.
See the Bible says, whether youeat, whether you drink, whatever
you do, you do it all to theglory of God.
How do you do four loads ofwash?
Every two days to the glory ofGod when your attitude is
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selfless and every time you pullout a piece of clothing, oh man,
that's little Jenn's God blessher heart.
Oh, she's so gifted.
God, I just thank you.
And all of a sudden, you'respeaking life over as you're
throwing the clothes, man, you,you pour out little Bobby's
shirt and that thing is straightup inside out.
Like you told him 10 times tonot do to mommy And the little
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guy's only five.
And you said, if you do that onemore time, I'm just gonna wash
it like that and put it in yourdrawer and you're gonna be
wearing it inside out.
And he's five.
And he's like, whatever, mom, Idon't even know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Come on.
And, and, and, and we try toinstruct and teach our kids,
which we should.
But, but, but don't be gatheringwith your girlfriends and
praying in the morning andblessing your kids and then be
at to washer, cursing.
'em cause the shirt's insideout.
Cause that's where the rubbermeets the road.
Anybody can meet and open theirlittle Bibles and ship their tea
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and pray.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Well,
Speaker 2 (48:06):
What about when
little Bobby didn't do when you
ask then where's he stand inyour sight, man?
You can turn that into a Godmoment.
You can say all that little guy,man.
He seems like sometimes he's sostuck in his way.
Sometimes God seems like I talkto him and he doesn't even hear,
but I know there's a componentin him that you're gonna use.
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So mightily he's gonna be sounmovable and unshakable and his
truth gets ahold of his heart.
God, nobody will be able to tellhim different.
That boy is rock solid.
I declare Bobby rock solidunmovable.
And shakeable like his God.
And now you're forgetting to dowash and you're praying for 5,
10, 15 more minutes.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
You
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Might even throw a
few shabos in there and soba, it
might get good.
And then you pull out yourhusband's shirt.
And instead of going now thatman, I think he wore this shirt
for five minutes, five minutes.
He tried it on and decided hedidn't wear it.
He didn't put it back in hisdrawer.
He put it in his basket.
What is he?
The guy in his slave, badenough.
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I'm raising these eight kids nowwash his shirt.
Did he wore for five minutes?
Speaker 5 (49:12):
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Well, I'm not that
far off.
That's why laughing souncomfortable.
You are, you are so funny, butit's true.
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Wonder if we really lived in thespirit and lived by faith and
seized the moment.
Wonder if we turned everythinginto the glory of God, whether
you eat, whether you drink,whatever you do,
Speaker 5 (49:46):
Do
Speaker 2 (49:46):
It all.
We are not gonna do that.
If you're not truly surrendered,you're not gonna do that.
If you're not living for hisgreat name, if it's about you at
all, you're gonna stumble inthese things and little things
are gonna sneak up and trip youand you'll still do church and
you'll still sing loud andyou'll still serve in ministry,
but where it really matters.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I'm actually, I feel
really happy in my heart.
So smile with me
Speaker 5 (50:28):
Speaker 2 (50:29):
And I'm not picking
on the ladies.
The guys run the same risks withtheir responsibilities and
stuff.
And, and the Lord said this tome for, for what this is worth
and how this will help you.
He said to me, this personallyyears ago, I used the word
responsibility in prayer and hewhispered to me, it was so
clear.
He interrupted me and said, Hey.
And I was like,
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Yeah,
Speaker 2 (50:52):
He said, instead of
that word of responsibility, I
know why you said it.
Switch that, flip that.
And every time you think youneed to use that word
responsibility, exchange it forprivilege.
And I went, he is so wise.
So I started doing it.
My hair just kept changing and so white.
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You oughta listen to me.
Look at my hair color.
No, just kidding.
I don't even know what I'm doingright now.
I know I'm having so much fun,but he did.
He said, take that word response.
Cause it was a, it was a, it wasa integrity thing.
It was a responsibility.
I'm gonna live up to myresponsibility.
He said, Hey, switch that out.
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Replace that with privilege.
That changes things.
What an honor, what a joy to laydown your life for another,
instead of finding out why theydon't deserve it, why they're
using you, why it won't matteranyway.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It'll matter before
the Lord it'll matter before
your conscience.
And as sooner you kill thatthing, the better
Speaker 5 (52:09):
You are.
.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
But if you allow that
thing to live because of
justifications based on others,well, I'm not gonna lay down my
life because cuz they might notappreciate it.
Okay?
So where's that lay with Jesusand dying on the cross.
Things looked a little bleak.
What do you, what do you have atthe cross?
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A few morning women.
He healed countless the books ofthe world when contained the
things he did.
If they were written one by oneand at the cross, he had a few
morning women and a late showapostle or two.
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Yeah, that's all he had.
He shows up in an upper room.
There is 120 people that aregathered for the cause.
We try to give him a churchgrowth program.
We'd probably try to teach Jesushow he could be more effective
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and impact and multiply hisnumbers.
He's here for three years anddoes miracles beyond count?
I'm talking miracles.
Like some of us have never seenin our lives, born blind, born
maimed.
And laed 40 years from birthstuff like that.
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38 years by a pool.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
There's sections in
your new Testament, scripture
where it says all that theybrought to him in that day.
That one moment, that time, thatday, wherever he was were
healed.
All
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Whoever,
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Whatever intense
situations that we haven't seen
change in our lives, you know,you, you look at a young man.
You look at, I saw oneyesterday, a young man that was
born in the condition.
We've prayed guys a lot oversome of this stuff and we
haven't seen it change.
Jesus saw it change every time.
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Amen.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
And they saw it
change too.
And there was still only 120,That stuff should speak.
Yeah.
He, he feeds all their belliesand they go out of their way to
find him.
He goes to try to find a littlequiet time.
Just he just crosses and gets onanother shore.
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He, and all of a sudden themasses coming here, they all
are.
They found him.
They all got in their littleboats and they all came.
He said, you only pursued me andfound me cuz I fed you
yesterday.
What's he calling him on?
You're just coming for what Ican do for you.
But you're not really payingattention unless you eat about
fresh and drink of my blood.
You'll have no part of me.
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And they're like, dude, we justwant lunch.
And he got weirded out and theywalked away.
Speaker 5 (55:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (55:18):
He was talking about
discipleship.
He was talking about completelygiven.
He was talking about not missingthe moment in the message.
Remember when he said, whoa, doyou wo to you?
Yeah.
See if the miracles were done inyou that were done in where
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tires sat on.
He said they would've been inSul and ashes.
I believe in that section, hesaid Sodom and Gilmore they'd
have been here today.
If I'd have done in them, whatI've done in you, you're missing
the point.
He's saying you're just reapingthe benefit of what I'm doing
and missing what I'm calling youto become.
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Man, you gotta listen soberlyand seriously here don't get
condemned.
Be, be challenged, be convicted,be inspired.
But, but hear me watch this justfor a second.
Cuz we're whole, we're one we'refamily, but just for a second,
hear me as an individual andthat you can take personal.
What I'm saying.
No matter what that you in theend are gonna be answering FHA.
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You stewarded this truth in yourlife period.
No matter what factor you werefaced with or who chose to do
what you still have to decidefrom faith in your heart.
What am I doing with this truth?
You see how awesome Jesus is.
We know he's awesome.
It goes without saying, but whenyou really look at it, do you
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see how awesome he is?
Like, like people that hehealed, I believe, I think there
was people that saw him dohealings in the last day.
And that last day turned andwere yelling Barass there were
people that heard his message.
There were people that werelaying out Palm branches and
crying out ho in the highest.
And now several days laterthey're crucify him had to be,
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had to be if Jesus wasn't, whohe was, if he wasn't solid, if
he wasn't here for his greatname and them, he's pretty shook
up by now or taken back, what doyou think it would feel like if
you're not living where he'sliving and now all of a sudden
you're standing and you're sobeat and bruised and battered
and you can hardly stand there.
And the pilot's trying to letyou go
Speaker 5 (57:40):
And
Speaker 2 (57:41):
The people are doing
their best to make sure he's
killed.
Pilot's wife is trying to do herbest.
I mean, pilot was a ruthlessman.
Apparently when you readscripture, look at history.
Pilots didn't have a lot ofmercy.
And, and yet he was afraid ofJesus and he was afraid of the
stories and his wife had a dreamand he's thinking, I don't want
nothing to do with this guy.
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And he's trying to find a way tocompel the people, to just be at
peace and let him slide.
Imagine what it would feel likeif you didn't understand what he
understood.
And if you weren't what he was.
And, and, and you did all thegood you did.
And those same people are outthere with vengeance screaming.
You've done nothing wrong.
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And they're screaming fors.
Baras, Baras killed a man.
Jesus raised the dead parascaused conspiracy.
Jesus is trying to make peace.
Speaker 5 (58:40):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Come on.
Something is crazy there.
You, you know, if Jesus had theability to be analytical and
think like a human in the fallennature, he's thinking Bess, are
you kidding me?
This is the straw.
That's breaking the saviorsback.
I've had enough.
If they didn't change bow, nowthey ain't changing.
I do all this good.
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And they wanna release him.
He kills a man and I raised thedead and I'm the bad guy.
I've got enough for this.
They ain't hit me no more.
They ain't put me on.
No cross.
You say, well, he couldn't dothat.
He's Jesus.
He couldn't do it.
Cuz he's love.
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It's
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Cause he's love.
That's the difference.
Don't miss that.
Nobody took his life.
Speaker 5 (59:31):
He
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Laid it down and he
said, follow me.
You be very careful.
You don't get pulled into thisAmerican kind of gospel out
there.
Just blessing you provisionbreakthrough protection to where
your joy is, resting on yourcircumstances and God breaking
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through and showing up when youneed it.
Most make sure that isn't whatdecides your disposition go
deeper than that.
With him have a covenant withhim where all that is, yours is
mine and all that is mine isyours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've just seen too manydiscouraged.
People go to church when you'rediscouraged.
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Where's your focus on you?
What?
Didn't work out for you?
What?
Didn't go the way you hoped whatdidn't go the way you prayed
when you're discouraged, you'revery self focused.
You know what?
Hebrews 12 three says, considerhim, consider who him.
You know, when it says thatright after it says, he's the
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author and the finish of ourfaith.
It says looking unto Jesus, whois the author?
So who started our faith?
Who authored it?
Jesus, who's gonna seal the bookand sign this thing.
Jesus.
Yeah.
So we're not gonna get finishedin our faith if we don't keep
looking to him.
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So it says, consider him whoendured such hostility against
himself from sinners, least.
You think you have a reason.
It doesn't say think you have areason.
That was my paraphrase.
It says least you be weary anddiscouraged in your own souls.
What's he saying discouragementis not Christianity.
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Why?
Because it has to do withself-centeredness guess what
else is in Christianity?
I can show you two placescomplaining.
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Yes.
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Complaining is never
acceptable.
It is zero Christian.
Cause when you complain, youreveal, you are not happy.
You're not satisfied.
Wonder if God complained.
He'd probably have a reason inour eyes, but here's the
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beautiful thing about him.
He has no reason in his cuz he'slove.
Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
And
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
He's just bigger than
turning you into what you
appear.
He believes he can make you whathe intended.
Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah.
And he's not gonna let, wherewe're not determine where he is.
He's gonna let the power of whohe is.
Determine us.
So man for generations has neverhad the ability to change God.
That's why God's been changing,man.
Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Amen.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
All those generations
are you with me?
Yeah.
Come on.
Don't you want a gospel?
This awesome.
Or do you just want chipblessing?
You're blessed.
And then if it doesn't come,you're gonna beat pout and then
looking for attention and hopingfor somebody to come be
sentimental and say, they'repraying for you.
Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
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The rent's paid.
And you're like, and then therent's not paid.
And you're like, how you doing,man?
All right.
Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
What's wrong.
No.
Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
Oh God,
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
You ever see that?
Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Don't get tricked
into that stuff.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
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You wanna live by
faith.
You're gonna keep your eyes onhim and he's good.
Amen.
Amen.
Some of us, some of us, I'm just, I'm not gonna stay here long.
Don't get too nervous.
Some of us over budget and thenget sad when God doesn't fit the
gap.
Some of us spend more than wehave and we take out loans.
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We can't pay.
And then we pray and intercedelike crazy
Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
And when the bills
don't get paid, we're wondering
where God was.
And then we throw this biggiving thing into a basket
believing it's gonna increase ahundred fold, cuz that was the
faith on that night.
So you got five, you spend 10and then you put a piece of it
in the basket, hoping God fitsthe gap.
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And then he's responsible if itdoesn't work out somewhere along
the line, you're gonna find outyou were wrong.
okay.
So I told you I wouldn't staythere long.
I was probably a little, littletoo long anyway.
So I'm off for that.
Now I'm off for that.
Oh, where's time go.
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These flies when I'm having fun.
Anyway, are you having fun?
Are you okay?
You know, what's so awesome.
We can live this.
We can live this.
You have to settle in yourheart.
What you're gonna go after.
And, and, and, and I'm not thisisn't some motivational rah rah
thing.
I try not to even do that.
I try to speak enough stuff toempower you, to go after this
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and lay a foundation of truthand expose these lies.
So we can say, you know what?
Let's make a good run for it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Let's just go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
But without the
intimacy, without the
relationship, you're not gonnawalk in the strength of what I'm
preaching.
I preach this a lot.
It makes people restless butnervous.
But his first John four, sevenand eight it's beloved.
Let us love one another.
Cuz love is of God and everyonethat loveth is born of God and
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know with God.
So the only reason you can loveis cuz love has revealed itself
and you don't love God.
First, you see that he firstloved you.
So when you see God's first lovein your life, which is important
to preach the gospel to wherepeople see his first love, why
do we make the goal heaven?
Why don't we reveal his firstlove?
Don't we teach people that whenthey were this and this and
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this, God never changed his mindand saw him for what they were
created for.
And God never marked him andlabeled him and judged him for
what they did.
He marked him for what he did.
And God never changed his mind.
Come on.
That's good news.
That's love.
Now you show me one familymember that treated us that way.
Even though, even we all havethe sweet somebody in our life,
a grandmother or somebody thatjust was kind no matter what,
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but they still were concernedfor you and saw you for your
trouble.
Probably they just, they justwere sweet.
I had grandparents that wereamazing like that.
I had a cousin that was ingirls' homes.
By the time she was 13, she waspregnant probably before she was
16 and she was considered ablack sheep.
They never treated her bad.
They, they always treated her.
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Like she never was in a girls'home.
So we, we do see family membersthat are, that are gracious like
that, but still they they'restill worried.
And, and when they're alone orwhen they're with the, my aunt
and uncle, they're still saying,oh, she's got herself in so much
trouble.
But around her, they treated hersweet.
But see, God doesn't even seeyou for that stuff.
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Like God sees you through hisson, through the death of his
son.
When you come to him and yourepent and you come to him and
say, God, what you washed me,clean.
He in a moment makes you holyblameless and above reproach.
That's just, nobody's loved thislike this guys.
So you gotta see his first love.
And then you, what you begin tolove.
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So you, this love place that I'mtalking about.
I, I, I read it.
I read it in first Corinthians13, when it was the first
morning I was saved.
The Lord said, if you have notlove, you have nothing.
I saw it.
And it was like, whoa.
And I read the four, four versesfour through eight of what love
was in the Bible.
But I remember seeing that itsaid it doesn't seek its own.
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And right then it's when holyspirit revealed to me.
That's the biggest problem in mylife.
I've been living for me when I'mmade for his image and it gives
me tons of invalid excuses.
So if I can cry one thing out toyou today, learn in the secret
place to put that thing away,called self, love it.
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Lettuce, love one another.
Why love is of God, everyone whoborn of God in.
So the only reason you love iscuz you've been privileged to
know him.
Cause without him, there's nolove on the earth.
You don't know love without him.
He's the source of love, cuzhe's the source of life.
So watch if you verse eight, ifyou love.
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If not he who love.
If not Know if he doesn't sayyou don't go to church, he
didn't say you don't pastor.
I realized he didn't say you'renot born of God.
He left that out, but he doesn'temphasize anything.
He just says he, you love.
If not what?
No, if not, God, it leaves thatthing wide open.
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It doesn't say you don't leadworship.
It doesn't say you don't go on amission trip once a year.
It doesn't say you don't show upon Thursday to feed the hungry.
Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Um,
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I mean it doesn't say
you do, but it doesn't say you
don't, but it does say this.
If you don't love there's one,not two, one reason, not two,
one.
You don't know it.
It doesn't say you don't seeyour need for a savior.
It doesn't say your name's notwritten in the book of life.
But the goal isn't going toheaven.
The goal becoming love.
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And if we don't get this, thanksman, thoughtful.
If we don't get this, the goal'sbecoming love.
The goal's not going to heaven.
The goal's becoming love.
Now.
I don't know about you.
Nobody ever taught that to me.
Holy spirit taught that to me inmy bedroom.
No preacher ever taught that tome, growing up the goal was
going to have him.
He was very self focused andself-centered, and it was
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blessings and provision andprotection.
Yeah.
And people lived up and downbased on their circumstances.
And when things were going good,they were doing great.
When things weren't, they werecrying out in prayer and in
despair and wondered if God wasgonna show up, you've learned
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this.
When you ask a person howthey're doing, they tell you
their two biggest challenges andsay, keep me in prayer.
How's it going, man?
I haven't seen you for a while.
Oh, I mean, I'm getting by, I'mjust keep me in prayer, man.
It's been tough on my job andyeah.
And, and so, and so youremember.
Yeah.
It's not, but I mean, I'll bealright.
Yeah.
I mean doing alright.
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It's like, we always have totalk about what's wrong because
ultimately that's where weidentify how we're doing by how
it's going instead of who he isin us and why.
And then the only other optionop option of answering is
usually the total oppositespectrum.
It's the Christian robot.
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How are you doing blessed comingin, going out, praise God.
I'm the head not to tell andI'm.
Speaker 8 (01:10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
And it's like, okay
man, brother.
No, but, but, but, but how manypeople would genuinely just
answer you because it's wherethey're, they're at, where they
say, you know, thanks for askingman.
You know, there's just a lot ofthings I'm position for and in
faith for, but man, I'mlearning, God is good and he
doesn't change in the midst ofanything.
And he is just so faithful.
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I'm learning.
He's so faithful.
And man, yeah.
There's a couple things I'mjust, I'm just believing.
I'm gonna totally turn around.
But you know, what's cool in themidst of it, I found I myself
having changed that God hasgrown me in some areas, man, I
can tell you I've honestly feellike I'm doing as good as I've
ever been doing.
Wouldn't that be a refreshinganswer from a Christian
Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Instead of well, I'm
hanging in there, brother.
I hope on his sandal strap atleast, you know, hanging in
there.
What is that hanging in?
There does not sound fruitful.
Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Hanging in there
sounds like survival and almost
done The love of let us loveone.
Another love is God, everyonewho loveth is born of God.
And not some who loveth,everyone who loveth is born of
God and know with God, thatmeans you cannot love without
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knowing him.
Eternal life is knowing him, notknowing about him, knowing him.
He who loveth not just doesn'tknow God, it's not condemning
sobering.
It's convicting.
So I guess our goal is to get toknow him, right?
It goes on and talks about he islove.
And if he loved us this way, wenot love one another.
And it gets down to verse 17.
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And it says, this is when weknow love is perfected in us.
That in the day of judgment, wehave boldness in that day.
Why?
Cause that day's a day ofdarkness and gloom.
The Bible says that's a day offear and trembling.
That's a day when men are cryingout for rocks and trees to fall
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on them and consume them.
At least they face the glory ofwho he is the Bible cause of the
day of gloom the day of theLord, a day of terror.
But it says for the man that'swalking in love.
It says here's how love is.
Here's how we know Love'sperfected that you have boldness
in the day of judgment.
Why?
Because as he, so are we now inthis world now talking about
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church attendance, talking abouthow you live.
That's
Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Talking about not
having a hurt heart, not having
unresolved conflicts, not beingissue, driven, not being
offended, not being full ofanimosity.
It's talking about you walkingin love, no account of a
suffered wrong, cuz you considernot your own life boldness in
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that day.
Why?
Because as he is the wholechapter, he is love.
He is love.
He is love as he is.
So are what's that mean?
He comes on that day and helooks at you and he sees who he
is in you.
And you're sealed for that dayby the spirit of God in you.
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And you have boldness becauseyou're one with him and as he
is, so are you you
Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
In the world
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
That sure.
Beats just an impersonal.
Oh yeah.
You're on the list.
Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Yep.
I see you prayed that prayereight years ago on a Sunday
afternoon.
Wow.
You were crying hard.
It's marked in the side notes.
You were really crying hard.
You seem sincere.
Yep.
Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
But the last eight
years up and down question.
If you're saved, pray me throughthis brother.
Hey, I ain't feeling I'm gonnapray.
I don't know.
What's wrong.
Just feel like something'sblocking my life.
But man, I prayed that day andI'm on the list.
No, it's gonna be a lot morepersonal than that as he is.
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And that's when you haveboldness, I don't know about
you.
I'd I'd rather have boldness onthat day than be saved by the
skin of my teeth.
I'd rather have boldness thaneverything burned with fire and
yet we'll still be saved.
Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
it
Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Just sounds better.
Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Y'all good.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Okay.
I gotta close.
I think we're supposed to becoming back and doing this
again.
Yes, man.
I hope I didn't run outta thingsto preach.
No, I think we'll be all right.
Okay.
So I was just feeling so emptyright now.
That's a flat out lie.
Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I tell people I don't
land.
I just stop.
So I'm just stopping right now.
I'm not a real smooth guy whenit comes to this stuff.
So I don't know how to reallyjust kinda land.
So I'll just stop that way.
When we pick up again, we'llalready be fly
Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
I mean, I could get
smooth, but I've never, I got
one of these on it.
Looks like I'm in touch with acontrolled tower,
Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
But,
Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
But I've never heard
the control tower say bring it
in Dan.
Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
I've
Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Never heard it, man.
I've never heard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've never heard the Lord saybring it in Dan.
I, I mean, sometimes I can seethe runway.
I see the airport.
I see the people and I justnever hear, bring it in Dan.
Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
So
Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I just keep flying.
You say you're not gonna run outa fuel, not a chance.
Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Just keep flying.
Amen.
Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
But I'm gonna stop in
midair today.
I know you're taking somethingwith you on this.
I stayed in a same tone today.
I kind of said the same thing,20 times over different ways.
It's really just God calling youand me to live from a pure heart
and a pure motive where it'sreally, really, really all about
him,
Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Where
Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
It's not just our
song.
It's our life.
Why?
Cuz the pure in heart shall seeGod.
Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
Ain't
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
That awesome?
Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
So you can just hear
the father fathering us into
that place of purity.
Just living from the rightplaces, thinking from the right
places you with me, I promiseyou now's not the time to have
unresolved conflicts.
It never was in the first place.
Animosity issues insecurity titfor tat nitpick.
Stop throw it all away.
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Do not be deceived in this hour.
This man shared it this morning.
This is the greatest hour to bealive.
Why?
Cause it's our hour and we canlive this gift called life for
his glory.
And we can make it matter forthe long run or you can get
caught up and time slip by andwhatever and regrets.
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And one day you'll wonder wheretime went.
That would be a bummer when youwere given this little window
called life and it's a gift.
Do you know why life feels likea grind to people?
You know how people say, life'sa grind.
Life's really tough.
And life's a bleep and a blankit's cuz they wake up every day
and live life outside of whythey're here.
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So they have no grace orempowerment to live it.
So it always feels rough anddry.
I'm not being self righteous.
Presumptuous.
I'm not preaching myself.
I don't even know what you mean.
When you say life is a grind.
I am having the time of my life.
Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yeah.
And sometimes on the outside,people seem to be farther off in
their mindsets than ever.
Sometimes people seem to be moreindividualistic than ever.
None of that de determines yourfaith.
It's his love for people.
You handle all that and live allthat in him and the spirit.
And you don't let that dictateyour why.
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Amen.
Yeah.
And in the long run, we're gonnasee God turn all that.
Cuz we didn't let that turn us.
Are you with me?
Yes.
So please be encouraged in thishour and please know that you
were called like Esther to atime like this.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
So good.
Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Are you with me?
So live in peace in your homes.
And even if your spouse doesn'twant peace, you pursue peace and
you make peace.
Blessed are the
Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
Peacemaker
Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
For, they are the
sons of God.
So what is the son of God?
Somebody that sings a song thatsays it or somebody that makes
peace.
Somebody that loves their enemyprays for those who push you and
give those who spitefully useyou, why he says do it.
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So you shall be sons of yourfather in heaven.
See sonship is not a confession.
It's an expression.
We can live this way.
I'm gonna pray this over you.
Okay.
This kind of grace right now,it's that little impartation
thing Shannon was talking about.
We're gonna do it.
And then we're gonna pray.
One more quick thing.
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And this was just a realteaching time and I hope you got
something out of it, father, Ijust thank you for grace in this
room.
Now just a grace to be that,that your grace would come and
meet a whole room full of yeses.
That there'd be sincere yesesall over this room.
God that people would say, youknow what?
I do wanna walk in love.
I do wanna show mercy.
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I do wanna make peace.
I want my heart to live in thepurest place.
So would you come and meet everysingle person and father us in
those places?
God.
And would you keep this wordright in front of us, fresh in
our heart and fresh in ourunderstanding.
And I'm asking this Lord that ifanything would interfere,
anything would try to distractor get in the way of the heart
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cry.
That's in this room right now ofyes.
I pray that you yourself wouldexpose it and remove it by
keeping the truth right in frontof our understanding, Lord God,
I asked that hearts would bestirred.
I asked that we would go forwardin this hour, like no time
before and never look back.
I thank you, Lord God that thiswould be a day of establishing.
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This would be a day of settlingand reckoning that this would be
a line or a point of no returnfor so many in this room that no
matter what the case, all thosescenarios would be fleshed out
right here in this room thatthis was a day that I got
settled and established.
This was a day that I decidedI'm never looking back.
This was the day I gave my yesto God.
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This was the day I released theperson I was troubled with and
realized it was my eye thatneeded changed.
God.
I thank you for the right to bea peacemaker.
And I thank you for the honor ofbeing sons and daughters of God.
So I pray that you establishthese things in us by the power
of your spirit and let yourgrace prevail.
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Holy spirit.
I'm asking you to come in someunique and special way and just
begin to empower eachindividual, right where they're
at.
Yeah, very personal, just anempowerment today and just let
them have the ability to take abig step in you and God.
I thank you for it in Jesusname.
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Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Hey.
Yeah.
Amen.
We, uh, we prayed for the, thesick last night and, and there
was people that, that wouldn'thave known and right away.
And then there was some peoplethat didn't receive complete
restoration in things or didn'teven see any change.
And then we, we did what we did,who was here last night and we
saw some things happen likethat.
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The one young lady she's righthere.
Yeah.
She come up and shared with methat she had a hernia activity
in her body and, and yesterdayshe just really believed.
She said, you know, I justreally believed that no matter
what God was healing me, etcetera, et cetera.
And she shared it so sweet.
Like she just locked her hard onhim, like, yep.
He's loves me.
He's for me.
Yay God.
And, and she said, she's eatenseveral times since then.
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She's had no protruding, nosymptoms or no evidence of
hernia activity or pain.
And she just came and sharedthat with me.
Isn't that cool.
She's sitting right there.
And uh, I just thought that wasthe sweetest testimony because
she was having this trouble fora while.
Is there anybody else that sincewe prayed that didn't get to
testify that you said, you know,since the last whatever hours, I
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just feel like I've I've I washere last night.
I was prayed for it and I feellike my body's changed.
I don't even know who that wouldbe if you'd even be here.
I'm just asking.
Cuz I like these testimonieswhen she told me that it was
this beautiful thing.
So it's just prompting me toask.
Is there anybody else that youdidn't share last night, but
you're here and you felt likesomething changed since you left
or since we prayed for you?
Anybody?
Speaker 7 (01:23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Something happened
changed.
Hang on.
He's he's coming back there sowe can all hear you preach.
No, I'm just, you can testify,honey.
Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (01:23:48):
Um, I had some
compressed discs in my back and
I also, um, went on vacation andhad a deep tissue massage in my
neck like four years ago.
And my neck has never been thesame and the lady who prayed
over me last night, my neck andmy back, I couldn't stand for
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more than two hours without myback hurting.
And now I can stand and worshipwithout any pain.
And I don't have any pain in myneck.
I can move my neck and I justthank God.
Thank God.
Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Amen.
Speaker 9 (01:24:28):
Praise him.
That's
Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Really, really good.
Is there anybody else quickly?
I just felt like we needed togive opportunity just in case
somebody didn't get a chance toshare
Speaker 10 (01:24:40):
For the last couple
of days, I've had some pain in
my right side, in my rightchest.
Everything kind of, for mehappens on the right side,
right.
Neck pain, the um, leg pain.
But for the last couple of days,I've had some really weird pains
in my right side of my chest.
And I haven't even said anythingto my family and I thought,
well, maybe it'll go away.
But I was one of those in thefirst group.
(01:25:03):
Yeah.
And um, like I had nothing lastnight and I had the best night's
sleep.
I didn't wake up with any painand today I felt great.
So thank you, Jesus.
Speaker 7 (01:25:12):
Beautiful.
Yay.
Go.
Thank you Lord.
Speaker 11 (01:25:21):
I was actually
healed during the service.
Um, my spiritual mom here,Sharon just prayed for me and I
was, I was in a car accident acouple years ago and I had
really bad whiplash and now Ican move you just all around
doesn't doesn't hurt.
Yeah.
Pain is gone completely.
Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
That's so
Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
Beautiful.
Hey, I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
So good.
Yeah, go ahead.
You just gotta stand up.
Speaker 12 (01:25:50):
Well, I've been
having trouble with my left
knee.
Its been giving a little bit ofpain and last night when we
prayed, I had my sister Lindaprayed for me and uh, got his
healed, my left knee.
Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Wow.
So hang on, give him the micback.
I, I just wanna talk.
So how do you know that?
Like you just explained that tous.
So we really grasped it.
Like what was your
Speaker 12 (01:26:10):
Knee like when I
woke up morning, I had no pain
in my knee last night.
It was starting to go away, butit wasn't immediate.
It wasn't either this morning itwas
Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Already gone.
So normally when you wake up,it's there.
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (01:26:20):
It's really there.
It's
Speaker 7 (01:26:22):
Really.
Did you hear
Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
It's really see, I
tried to get people to share
their experience cuz we can'ttotally relate sometimes when
it's not you, but see how heanswered me.
He said, oh, it's really there.
It's usually really there.
So it was a painful experiencealmost every morning.
Every
Speaker 12 (01:26:35):
Morning I'd get up
in the morning and my knee would
hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
And this morning,
Speaker 12 (01:26:39):
This morning there's
no
Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Pain completely.
Okay.
Speaker 7 (01:26:44):
Now watch now watch.
If we drew
Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Conclusions and spun
our minds, you got analytical
last night here.
Well, I wonder why I didn't gethealed.
Something must be blocking myhealing.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong.
I wonder if the person prayingfor me, wasn't really qualified.
Speaker 7 (01:26:58):
You could say a
Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Hundred things or you
could say father, I thank you.
You're so good.
And I so appreciate the workyou're doing on my life and the
grace that you're pouring on me.
And thank you for making allthings new and all of a sudden
you go to bed and thankfulness.
You wake up in enjoy.
Next thing you know, you don'teven have pain in your knee, but
when you got prayed for nothingseemed to change, but nothing
changed here.
Why?
(01:27:19):
Because nothing changed here.
Yep.
Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
Do you get it?
Come on.
It should be the only
Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Christian response we
ever
Speaker 7 (01:27:25):
Have.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Anybody else wanna
share?
Got a lady back here.
This is good.
We opened a bag of popcorn.
Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
I like it.
You got some, yeah,
Speaker 13 (01:27:42):
My name's Phyllis
and I have had a severity of gut
issues and um, I just went andgot a, uh, colonoscopy and they
have done some biopsies on my,um, bowel wall.
Anyway, I have been showing, uh,nonfunctional capability.
(01:28:03):
It's kind of like Val paralysiswhere I just cannot feel a bowel
movement.
And so I got prayer last nightin hallelujah.
I know this is terrible, but Ihad two bowel movements in one
day.
Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
Thank you for your
humil.
That yeah, that what's she'ssaying is she pooped?
and she knew it.
Yay.
Jesus.
Bring that thing alive.
(01:28:40):
Woo.
That's the best testimony.
Anybody else?
We all good.
Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Let's do some there's
there's there's there's two
things on my heart right now.
We're just gonna pray.
Uh, okay.
Let's do this first.
I was just listening.
Is there anybody in this room?
Uh, I haven't done this for along time.
I don't know why.
I just do things.
When they come on my heartstrong, you could do things
because you want to, and Godwill honor it and bless it.
But he usually puts this stuffon my heart, but there was a
(01:29:09):
season where I was doing thisall the time.
I can't even tell you last timewe've done this, but it's really
on my heart now.
And that's exciting to me.
Most of the time, when he tellsme to do this, I see 100%
results.
Now I won't really get to weighthat probably this weekend.
Maybe somewhat by tomorrow.
Cuz we only have one night yettonight, but who's in this room.
(01:29:29):
It has to be in the room or Iwouldn't be hearing it.
It has to be, it's probably morethan we think.
You're having trouble at nightsleeping and you take some kind
of sleep aid, whether it'sscripted or over the counter,
you have trouble sleeping atnight and you use sleep aid to
sleep.
Let me see.
Let me see your hands.
(01:29:50):
Okay.
Yeah.
I was just gonna leave on thatly.
Where are you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well this is exciting now watchit's.
Oh, it's so beautiful.
Now watch.
I know we, we do a lot of thingsthrough prayer.
This isn't even a prayer thing.
Watch tonight when you go tobed, okay.
Are y'all listening?
The people that raise theirhands, I've checked into this.
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I don't tell people to not taketheir meds, but with sleep
stuff, even prescriptive stuff,it there's no side effects.
If you don't, there's nothingthey prescribe that would hurt
you.
If you didn't take it except youjust wouldn't be able to sleep
in the natural.
So it's not dangerous to nottake your sleep tonight.
And if you're just taking itover the counter thing, here's
what I want you to do.
Before you go to bed tonight,you be with him.
(01:30:33):
Now watch this.
I'm telling you, you are gonnasleep tonight.
It's gonna be so fun across theboard.
You people that raise yourhands, you, you watch, you give
yourself to this truth.
You take the thing that you weretaking and say, Lord, I know
I've been taking this.
I know it's been helping at somelevel or it hasn't been helping
at all, but either way I've beentaking it.
But tonight I'm just gonna sitit right here and you shut the
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bathroom door, get alone, justbe with him.
Don't even be with your spouse.
Just be alone.
Just be with him, shut the doorto the bathroom or something.
And just say, you know, tonight,I'm just gonna be with you.
And I just know you love me.
Your hand's so strong in mylife.
And because of you, I'm gonnasleep undisturbed and get as
much rest as necessary.
And I'm gonna be fresh in themorning and very aware of your
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love.
And you just commune like thatwith him.
You put that thing aside.
Thank him that tonight.
I'm just gonna put this asideand I just trust that.
You're the reason that I'm gonnasleep tonight.
Done striving, done struggling.
I'm gonna lay my head down andI'm just gonna be with you and
I'm telling you you're gonnasleep tonight.
Okay?
(01:31:36):
So just be with him.
Let me see your hands again.
You were, you were takingsomething to, okay.
It's a bunch of you.
Y'all gonna be with him.
You're gonna do that.
You're gonna sit that thingaside and have a little personal
moment with the Lord.
Just you and him and talk tohim.
Yeah, yeah.
It's gonna be fun.
All right now, listen, I don'tnormally do things this way, but
I just feel like this in myheart.
I'm just gonna pray a corporateprayer for healing.
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Anything that hasn't changed inour bodies or any visitors or
anything.
I just, if you're sick in yourbody right now, I just want you
to put your hands somewhere.
Maybe where there's a sicknessor even just on your heart, just
a contact point of faith thatGod he's praying over me right
now.
And I'm believing, you'retouching me and I believe you're
doing a work right now.
So father, I thank you forhealing all through this room
and God, I just thank you rightnow that you paid a price
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through your son and you makeall things new, every pain,
every disease, every sickness,you leave the people in Jesus
name, father.
I thank you for a restoration ina regeneration in joints and
muscles and bones.
God, I thank you for strengthswallowing up weakness.
God and I just thank you fororgans that are healthy and
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functional.
God, I thank you for hearts thatare restored and made strong in
the natural that are working.
I I okay.
I just believe that right nowyou're putting years on some
hearts that are in this room,years of function.
I just saw it.
I heard to say it.
You're putting years of functionon hearts.
People that were told that theircondition would limit them some
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years will find no limit in theend.
And Lord, I just declare thatover them right now.
And I just thank you.
I thank you for lungs that arestrong kidneys that are working
well, livers that are wholeLord.
God, I just thank you thatdigestive, if you've had bowel
issues, just put your hand rightthere on your abdomen.
And I just thank you God rightnow for touching everyone in
that area of the bowels and nomore divert, articulate us no
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more digestive dysfunction.
God I thank you.
No Crohn's disease or symptomsin Jesus name.
God I thank you right now.
No allergies, no reactions tothings.
God I thank you for totalhealthy function.
The way you intended from thebeginning.
I bless this house and I thankyou for holding us over because
you're good in Jesus name.
(01:33:50):
Amen.
Amen.
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