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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Talk about like hearing his voice a little bit.
Yeah.
Sometimes I feel like just metalking.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Angelo said about sharing, abouthearing his voice a little bit.
Don't get hung up on hearing thevoice of God.
And some people struggle so badwith it and they say, man, I
don't hear the voice of God.
And I just feel like I'm talkingto myself or just here's where
you're, it's always gonna goback to faith.
There's times where I'll justlay and mu in my heart and

(00:38):
meditate on the scripture.
That's already in my heart.
And I feel like God speaks to methrough that.
Sometimes there's times he'lljust talk to me in my spirit, in
straight English and juststraight up.
Talk to me, you say, well, thatdon't happen to me.
Don't get hung up on that.
You don't even hear me talkabout manifestations in my life.
Administrations.
I don't even talk about things.
I feel I don't talk about a lotof personal stuff.

(00:59):
Cuz we start making that ourbarometer and then we start
again weighing, well, thosethings aren't in my life.
I must be close to God.
I guess when I get closer toGod, I'll start having that know
.
It's not like that.
There's some people that hearGod different.
Some people hear throughpictures, some people just read
the word in the word.
God kind of speaks through hisword in a way where you just see
it, know it.
And you know, God's communing.

(01:21):
It's, there's a lot of differentways to hear the voice of God.
If I would just say how I hearthe voice of God specifically,
you would maybe weigh yourselfagainst that and see if that's
and try to pursue that for yourreality.
But there might be a way whereyour you function, where you
think, where you see where yourchild likeness you're innocent,
leads you in innocence leads youin such a way where God just

(01:44):
speaks to you like a littlethought and a whole thing will
open up.
I know people that'll just, andthis happens to me sometimes,
but usually God talks to me instraight English in my heart.
He just talks me and I I'velearned to know it's him like,
like I'll just say, oh mygoodness.
Yeah that's so you you're iswow.
You're and he'll do it outta theblue.
Sometimes, sometimes I'm joggingand he'll say, Hey Dan, you

(02:05):
know, and he'll just talk to me.
And I'm like, yeah, whoa.
And people wonder why I'mrunning so fast.
Cause God's talking to me.
I'm like

Speaker 3 (02:12):
or,

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Or you ever see me going down the road?
Like this barely running.
Probably God's talking to me.
But usually I get running realfast.
One morning he woke him up atfive and said right in my
spirit, it sounded like you werewhispering to me in my ear
almost.
But it wasn't audible.
I can't explain.
It was so clear.
He said, Hey, let's go runtogether

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Five

Speaker 2 (02:34):
In the morning.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I said, okay,

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because he said it, it wasn't like five in the
morning.
Come on, Lord.
I just wanna sleep.
no, he there's so muchgrace in the relat to how I'm
getting right now.
There's so much I'm I'm leapinglike a heart I'm leaping
like the deer.
I have deer speak today.

(02:58):
Just said, let's, let's goaround together.
And I'm like, it's five in themorning.
I'm doing 15 hour a day, fourday conference.
It's five in the morning.
I'm not even going to bed till 132.
If you think about that in thenatural, that's a no go.
But holy said, Hey, let's let'sgo run.

(03:20):
And I went, okay, whoa, Todd wassnoring.
Anyway.
holy spirit.
Doesn't slumber.
And I was awake.
So I said, since we'reboth laying here awake because
of him, I'll go with you now.
That's what I told Todd.
Todd was like, that's justwrong, dude.
That's just wrong.
He's like, so, so you guys justleft me alone.

(03:40):
You just left me.
You guys just went.
And I said, well, yeah.
I said, we came back.
You were still snoring.
He said, that's just wrong,dude.
That's wrong?
And uh, it was so funny.
I ran down that road at five inthe morning in the pitch, dark
in a farm kind of backed farmarea in Ohio, no street lights,

(04:03):
nothing pitch, dark where a dogtried to eat me the day before
serious, the dog tried to eat meand I had to speak in the name
of Jesus.
And he's showing me that he hada good set of teeth and, and I'm
like, you will not in Jesusname.
And he was really trying to eatme.
If I wasn't a Christian he'dhave ate me.

(04:24):
God held him back.
I know he did that.
Dog was going to eat me.
So now it's pit stark and I'mrunning by that same house and
the pit's dark and the holyspirit wants to run.
That dog is not eating me.
That's right.
I'll run right down that road.
I'm not tempting.
God.
He wants to run.
It's the only road I know to runon.
Ah, chugged, right by thathouse.
Eat your hard out doggie I'mwith the holy ghost.

(04:46):
see, I live that way.
I believe there is no possibleway to be afraid.
None, absolutely none.
They took me on a road in Alaskawhen I was at that youth camp
and a dog came outta nowhere andwas eating the lady's tires.
Like, and I thought he was gonnabite through the rubber and I
went, wow, he's just out hereand I'm gonna be running by

(05:09):
here.
Sure's a good thing.
I'm in covenant.
They take me on that.
She said, I didn't know theatwas ending.
I said, okay, they're telling methat there was just a bear
attack that weekend and mooseand bear attack are the number
one casualty of people in Alaskamoose attack because of calves
and you're running and you getbeat and the calves on this side

(05:30):
of the road eating and you don'tsee it.
And the mom's on this side andyou Jo, between them and the
mama goes, whoa, you're inbetween my calf and stomp you.
That's what they do.
And bears just get hungry, Iguess.
Cause they're them big brownbears.
So she drives me out and all ofa sudden I look and there's this
vertebrae with ribs along theroad and I'm driving her.

(05:53):
So I got the dog.
I get all these opportunitiesfor fear.
Now I got the vertebrae withribs.
I'm like, that's peculiar.
I guess somebody dumped that outa year ago.
Maybe.
So he's still going.
And now it's brush all along theroad and the roads narrowed down
from here to the wall and it'sjust solid bushes.
And now I look and now here's adead animal, dismembered hair

(06:18):
and bones everywhere.
Right where she's dropped meoff.
and I said, this doesn'tlook like an honorable place to
die.
I said, this has nothingto do with the gospel.
I can't die here.
She said, do you wanna run?
Are you okay?
Maybe you shouldn't run here.
Maybe I should.
No, I'll be okay, honey.

(06:39):
Drop me off.
That's this what I told her, shedrops me off.
I had to check the carcass out.
Dean.
I go over there, here.
It was a moose.
I thought, man, if something'skilling a moose, here's this big
moose tortoise shreds.
And, and I look and it was kindof fascinating to me.
I'm an outdoors guy.
Remember how I said, I playedwith the rattlesnakes right on
there.
And I'm like, whoa, there's Wolftracks everywhere.

(07:03):
And I'm like, this is likeamazing.
And then I started, oh, Irealized the hide in the carcass
where, where it was all rippedup was drug way up.
And as I get up there, here'sthis big set of brown bear
tracks.
He drug it up there and musthave been sitting with it.
And I see these movies andhunting shows where they're
laying on it, gardening it, no,let nothing near.
And I started thinking, thismight not be the best place to

(07:26):
stand right here.
And I looked and I kind of, Iwas like, I think our head back,
but you have to understand.
Fear is a dime a dozen in thatplace.
So when I go by the place wherethe dog is, if you don't have a
close relationship with holyspirit, you are freaked out.
But I just know I'm okay.
I can't explain that other thanI know I'm okay.

(07:47):
I ran right by the house.
Never saw the doggy and I didsee the white doggy, but I never
saw the black one that tried toeat the car.
So all I'm saying is there's athing called relationship with
holy spirit, right?
Where you're growing with him,where you're have an intimacy
fellowship with him where you'rehearing his voice.
Let's go run together.

(08:07):
If he said, let's go runtogether.
Everything's cool.
I had that in my, I got up atfive.
I ran, I ran five miles.
I was back to the hotel in 28minutes because the whole way he
preached the revelation of theblood the whole way.
So those times aren't every daywith me there, people talk like

(08:31):
God talks like that every day.
And maybe he does with them.
But I promise you if he'stalking like that every day, I
wouldn't probably share thatwith everybody unless your life
reveals that because it lessensthe impact of him talking to you
.
I, some people say, oh, I this,and now all these are talking
all about their spiritualexperiences.
And they got issues, offensehurt and cycles in, in their

(08:55):
life.
And it, and, and people look atthat and they think, man, if
you're in the presence of Godall the time, how come you got
all them issues?
And it does.
It confuses people.
And it, it WANs the power ofbeing in this presence.
And sometimes you have to becareful with just talking
manifestations, say, you know,when somebody's with full art,

(09:16):
you know, by their life, whenthey're walking with him, the
reason I don't share my personalexperiences too much is because
I don't want them to be thebarometer.
I don't want people to chaseafter that for their experience,
because here's what I know.
If we preach on identity and youstart entering in by faith in
your bedroom, he'll see youthere, he'll meet you there.
And then your relationship willbe your relationship.

(09:40):
And then analo have his ownrevelation, his own identity and
the way that he hears the voiceof God.
But it's many ways with mesometimes he'll speak one word
to me and open up a wholeparagraph in a moment.
Do you see what I'm saying?
He'll, he'll just, everythingwill make sense.
Like, I'll just see what he'ssaying.

(10:02):
You see what I mean?
Like that time, when, when Isaid I knelt and he said, why
would you be discouraged?
That's all he said.
And when he said it, I knewexactly what he was saying.
I saw the whole picture in amillisecond.
You get it.
The number one way he speaks tome is through his word.

(10:24):
It's the number one way, hisword.
He speaks to me.
What I mean by that is I'll reada scripture.
And because I've filled my heartwith word three other scriptures
will just pop off.
And, and, and all of a suddenthe dots are connected.
All of a sudden, I see what theLord say.
I'll read a chapter.
And all of a sudden the, myheart will just start to open.
And, and there's, there's thingsabout Jesus' life.

(10:45):
There's his word.
I so treasure his word, likesilver, like that proverb.
I treasure his word.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So he speaks to me, Angelo,mostly through his word.
Some people get pictures andvisions.
It's always, we hear from God awhole bunch of ways.

(11:07):
He said what a lot of usprobably feel.
Sometimes I feel like I'm justtalking.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Well, like sometimes I don't know whether I should
just be quiet.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I understand there's a, there's a big time time for
all of you.
I know people say, you talk toomuch.
You never let him talk.
There's a big time, time for youto continue to make confession
out of your heart and belief ineverything you're wanting to
believe.
It's not a confession sheet andan expression.
We're gonna do it in a minute.
You're gonna see what I'mtalking about.
And the whole time I'm doingthat, you're saying, well, God,
can't speak to you.

(11:39):
You know, conversations aretwo-sided, it's plenty of time
to speak to me.
He can speak to me anytime, butthere's a time where I need to
establish my heart in truth.
There's a time where I might gofor, I might go for 40 minutes
and not hardly take a breath.
But the whole time I am, I'mreleasing faith.
And grace is establishing me inthat.
And I'm making declarations anddeclaring things and seeing

(12:01):
things in God's actually prayingthrough me.
Sometimes I've learned that holySpirit's actually the one that's
causing me to pray those things.
Because when I pray, am I seehim pray?
Am I see him?
So is he speaking to me in thatprocess?
Absolutely.
Right.
While I'm talking, cuz as I'mpraying, I see what I'm saying.
And I'm becoming what I'msaying.

(12:21):
You get what I'm saying?
So all of a sudden grace ismeeting me where faith is or you
can feel like, man, I'm justtalking to the air.
I don't feel like God's there.
He's absolutely there.
Cuz he says he is period.
So don't feel like you'retalking to the wall.
You're not talking to the wall.
Say, well, I don't feel anysense of anything.
That's all right.

(12:41):
Continue in the word.
You'll know the truth.
The truth will make you free.
When you find a reason to backoff, when you find a reason to
pull back or you say, well, Itried that brother.
You're reducing the gospel to amethod in a form of function.
That'll be deceive your heart.
It's not a method.
Faith is a lifestyle.
We come to him.
Amen.
Amen.
Come on.

(13:02):
You have a good friend.
And you know, they're yourfriend and you know, they're
your friend and you're not attheir house.
But, but, but there's already arevelation that they live there.
There's already a revelationthat this is their phone number.
You call him.
And there's nobody there.
There's nobody there.
It's like when I call pastor,there's nobody there.
You just get his voicemail.
But I know he is real.
I know he is alive and I don'tlose heart.

(13:23):
And I keep calling because I'mgonna get through.
Yeah.
Get it.
Why?
Because a Revelation'sestablished that I know who he
is.
I know I really used, youdidn't own that.
it's been my experienceat times, but I call back and
every once in a while I'd say,well, I left a message and I

(13:43):
know he hears me and guess what?
He's faithful and calls me back.
You get it.
Do you hear the principal there?
Don't separate this from ourrelationships.
I've settled.
He'll call me back.
I know he he's heard me.
Look, I called three times nowand I haven't got through.
It seems like he didn't hear me,but I know he heard me.

(14:04):
And I guess he's just caught upin this or that now I know
that's not what God, God'salways there.
He's not like, I always say that.
The one difference between ourrelationships and me as a
pastor, I'm never, God's neveron another line.
And if he is, he can still be onyours.
You see what I mean?
So he is actually on everybody'sline.
But when you call me or I callpastor, he might be on his line.

(14:25):
That's the only difference thereGod's door is never locked.
It's never knocked first.
It's never sorry in a meeting.
So there's things about ournatural relationships.
You don't compare to God.
God's always available be conbowling to throne him with
grace.
But don't struggle with that.
Okay.
It's a good question.
Excellent question.
Enjoy the ride.
Grow up into him in all things.

(14:46):
Don't make seeking him a method.
If you're saying I tried that,then you've embraced the
mindset.
That's discouraged you orfrustrated you.
And you've reduced yourrelationship to a method of
seeking him instead of anexpression of heart towards him.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So there's there's times hespeaks to me.

(15:07):
I wish it was all the time wherehe speaks to me like in such
revelation in so clear Englishand that's not always this
morning I was driving.
I was up early.
I took a ride.
It was still dark out.
I, I just couldn't sleep.
I prayed and I just couldn'tsleep.
Not went out to the watercompany and walked.
It was still dark when I got outthere and uh, windy a little bit

(15:28):
drops of rain, but I got prayingin the spirit praying in
tongues.
And I mean, here's a goodexample, Angelo, as I was, I
just so knew I was loved and Ifelt so encouraged in my heart
to be born again.
Here I am saved 15 years and I'mdriving down the road, praying
in tongues.
So, so grateful.
I'm born again.

(15:49):
And I just started to yell Jayso loud as I'm driving and the
presence of God just went out ofthe blue, just the tangible,
holy presence of God just involme.
And I'm just, I love you somuch.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
See, I I'm feeling that right now, but

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That was at six 30 in the morning, six in the morning.
It was, that's what it was.
And it was just an expression ofcommunion.
I'm praying in my spirit.
I just prayed in the spirit.
I was just building myself up.
I was aware of holy spirit inme.
I was just speaking out divinemysteries.
I was just praying.
I didn't have anyinterpretation.
I was just having fun.
Nobody was listening.
I didn't have to interpretateinterpret.

(16:29):
I was just crying outta myspirit.
I was God, I was loud.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I was like, Jesus, I got pretty.
Like I started yelling Jesus.
Oh, I had Misty Edwards in thebackground with me rocking,
seeking Jesus.
So I was like, girl, you are onit.
Yeah, we are in

Speaker 2 (16:48):
The same phone

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Room.
It was just good.
Cause she was right with me.
Somehow.
She got through the door withme.
It was like, actually, itwas at that place when I've

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Hit it on and turned it up.
And uh, cuz I, there was a trackthere that came on my heart and
I, I hit it and I turned it upand it was, I turned it way up
and uh, I got screaming.
Jesus, Jesus, see nobody, youguys weren't there.
That's secret time.
That's personal.
The more you give yourself tothat.

(17:20):
Okay, watch this.
It's good that we're here.
You give yourself to that morethan you give yourself to here
because that's where that's theonly place.
What we're doing here is realbecomes your reality.
That's where you walk it out.
That's where it becomesestablished.
Is that fair?

(17:43):
Make a strong statement.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
You can

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Sit here and get tons of information is what it'll be
in the long run without thatplace.
That's all it'll be.
Without that.
Everything you get here isinformation.
It's it's knowledge.
It'll puff you up.
And in the long run, it'll biteyou because this whisper will
say, yeah, you know all that,but it's not your experience.

(18:10):
And there you are in that cycleagain, feeling like if I didn't
get it by now, I ain't gonna,you, you, this is your
birthright.
That thing I just said thismorning, whatever that looks
like to you, that doesn't meanthis.
You don't hear me even preach alot on praying in tongues like
that.
Cuz then people make it amethod.
We get into work so quick.

(18:32):
We're like, okay, I gotta praylike 10 minutes in tongues every
morning.
I, I might not even think ofpraying in tongues.
It might not even rise up at meto pray in tongues in the
morning.
I might just pray in English andread my Bible and, and worship
Jesus.
And every time might looktotally different.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Honestly, when it's like thatI'll think it's true

(18:53):
relationship because I'm notunder pressure to perform
anything.
I don't feel like I have to dosomething to get something.
I don't have to pray in tonguesfor a half hour to get
something.
I already have it.
I'm entering into what I know Ialready have.
And that becomes clear andbrighter.
If I end up praying tons in theprocess.
Great.
If I end up just singing aworship song to him, great.

(19:15):
If I end up parking along theroad and crying and getting
outta my truck and kneeling inthe field.
Great.
But none of those things are,what's making it happen.
I'm doing all those thingsbecause of him.
It's just the flow.
It's I'm not doing that to getto him.
I've already got to him.
He's already got to me.
You see what I mean?
You have to be very careful.
I'm very careful not to teachthat stuff out in a way where

(19:38):
you're gonna hear it as worksbecause we make stuff works.
It's like Christian aerobics orsomething or morning exercises.
Do you know what I mean?
So, and there's a general truththere that you could teach it
out in a, in a healthy way.
But the tendency of people is,is to turn it into something
they do to get somewhere.

(20:00):
Are you okay with what I'msaying there?
Do you get what I'm sayingthere?
Because we've been taught somuch to do this and pray an hour
in tongues and then try Englishand it might be good to get on
your knees and a half hourprostrate.
Wouldn't hurt you, your middle,your life and da, da, da, da, da
.
That's all the spontaneousresponse of my heart.
I was laying on my face one daythinking, you know, I wanna

(20:21):
honor God.
I need to honor God.
And, and I laid on my face,prorate.
Nobody was looking, nobody waseven around.
I laid on my face.
As soon as I got on my face,holy spirit said, Hey, why don't
you just flip over and talk tome?
And I balled and I rolled overon my back and he just loved on
me.
And we just talked.

(20:42):
But you know, he didn't, hedidn't because my heart's so
sincere in what I'm telling you.
He, he, and I've asked him tofather me and, and lead me and
disciple me that way, that, thatif I'm even slipping into
something like works, I thinkhe'll slip up.
If our hearts are in that placeand it's not about works at all.
It's about knowing him, lovinghim, even if my heart's sincere.
And I feel like I wanna honorhim and get prorate and it could

(21:03):
have any look of workswhatsoever.
This is how I'm gonna get indeeper or whatever.
I think that's right.
When holy spirit will slip upand say, Hey, I love you.
Why don't you just roll over andtalk to me.
I flipped right over.
I was so humbled by that.
I was, so that was like, thatwas like the biggest kiss.
I was like flipped over talkshare did very little talking

(21:29):
after that just knew.
He loved me.
Just laid there, quietministered.
Some things gave me somedirection and stuff.
Actually, the way he works withme, he usually gives me
information and answers anddirections on things I've been
seeking, not what I'm seekingright now, because then I don't
know about you.
But back in the beginning, Iused to have the tendency is

(21:50):
that God or me.
And uh, here's how he fathersme.
I'll ask questions in themorning or through the day.
And about three hours later whenI'm not even thinking about it,
he'll go boom or justspeak to me and answer what I
was talking about three hoursago.
And I know it's not me, cuz I'mnot even think, do you get it?

(22:12):
That's how he fathers me becausewho's ever been in that you're
seeking direction.
You're seeking direction.
You want wisdom?
What do I do, God?
And then you start gettingimpressions and next thing you
know, your mind's engaged.
And then is that just my desire?
Is that what God's saying?
Is that just what I want to dois that really?
God, is that just me?
Who's ever been in that?
I think we've all probably beena little bit in that.

(22:33):
Right?
So a lot of times, if I'm insomething like that, I'll just
look, you love me.
I'm not under pressure.
I don't even, I don't even haveto answer that right now.
You'll convince my heart cuz youlove me.
And I just don't want to liveoutta my head.
I wanna live outta my heart.
So thank you for fathering meand I'll release faith that he

(22:55):
hears me, that he's answering meand I won't worry about it.
And I'll continue to enjoy theday in him and grow and flow and
do whatever.
And out of the blue, usuallywithin that day out of the blue
bam, you'll when I'm not eventhinking that and you'll know
it's God.
So that's something too.
So don't struggle.
I think all I'm saying right nowis don't struggle in knowing

(23:17):
him.
Cause if you're struggling,you're making it some kind of
method.
It's not a relationship.
Do you know what I mean?
In fact, when you struggled inyour earthly relationships and
people, and it didn't seem likeit was right, that who's ever
struggled in a relationship andthen, uh, felt like they drove
somebody off or lost their ownzeal to pursue that relationship

(23:41):
because it didn't seem like itwas working.
Why would it be any differentthis way?
If you start believing that andthen you lose desire, but yet
you don't, it's still there.
It's a deep ache in your heart,but then a year goes by and you
haven't really been seeking himlike you were.
And you know what I mean?
Probably somebody's had thatexperience and knows what I

(24:03):
mean.
You see what I'm saying?
I know I'm taking slow.
I feel like, but just bear withme on this.
Let's go to first Corinthianschapter one.
See, you have to understand inthis school, it's not about just
teaching and preaching theBible.
I'm talking about.
I'm trying to be conscious in,in my heart to hear holy spirit.

(24:24):
I've been asking him to breakthings down and gimme a grace
to, to talk about all theselittle side details that can be
stumbling blocks to us.
Do you understand why we'redoing that?
Why I'm taking my time and goingso slow in little areas like
this.
Does that make sense?
Because if I just talked to youabout fellowshiping with God,
all these little things thatkeep you from entering in could

(24:46):
still be there.
If they're not exposed, the morethey're exposed, the more we
give understanding the better wesee, the more we can become.
What we see.
Does that make sense, Ron?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Um, I think a lot of people identify with this.
A lot of times I'll see God andget with God and I'll try goes a
million miles off.
You know, I, I, I can'tdiscipline my mind to stay foot
in one thing.
It just those the

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Circles.
Okay.
If that who's, that everhappened to who's, that happened
to, okay, here's the deal.
If there's a song, if yourheart's to seek out and that's
happening, if there's a songthat really, uh, touches your
heart, that that means somethingto you that you really like to
sing to him, not just a prayersong that you receive, but just
a song that gives him honormight be good to enter into a

(25:33):
place.
We got pray in the spirit alittle, but what we're gonna do
right now is, is the answer towhat I've done in my life.
Because it happens to all of usat some level.
At some time, some people, itseems like it always happens.
Who does it seem like?
It always happens to okay.

(25:53):
The way to step through that ismeditating on the word.
And isn't it amazing.
Your question comes right whenI'm ready to go there.
And this is what the Lord showedme to do today at four 30 in the
morning, he woke me up at four30 in the morning and told me to
do what we're about to do.
And you ask a question that isthe answer, cuz what I'm gonna

(26:14):
say to you when I do this isgonna say some of you that have
trouble keeping your mindfocused and you feel like this
is, this is something and thisis what it looks like.
That'll get your mind locked in.
And isn't it cool that I justturned you to first Corinthians
30.
And he asked that que, that wasactually for me, that wasn't
even for you.
And I already believed, I heardGod at four 30, but now I am so

(26:37):
sure I'm like, soaffirmation's good for all of us
who, who, who believed alreadythat they heard God.
And then it was good to beaffirmed that you knew you heard
God, even though you knew you,you were heard God, like there
was first Corinthians, uh,chapter one, verse 30.
Did I say, did I say firstCorinthians 30?

(26:59):
Did you guys think I had adifferent Bible?
Some of you were like 30 where'schapter 30.
It ain't even here.
You didn't look for 30.
Who looked for first Corinthiansone verse 30.

(27:20):
Now I turned you firstCorinthians one and I do this
all the time.
And then I start preaching outof another chapter.
I'm not doing that on purpose.
Okay.
It just happens.
I don't know why things come inmy mind.
But Psalms one says, if youmeditate day and night in the
world, right, you'll be like atree.
Plan it by the rivers of livingwater talks about Barron fruit

(27:43):
in your due season that yourleaf won't wither.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
You're planning by the it.
Doesn't see.
So, so you, you know, there's nosuch thing there's honestly no
such thing as going through awilderness.
If he's there.
Wow.
Everybody's talking about it.

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I'm going through a wilderness.
Well, you you're just got thesame eye that Hebrews had and
you're dying there.
Like they did.
Jesus went through a wildernessand came out with the spirit and
power.
He went through selfless.
They went through selfish.
We know that, but the bottomline is he's there.
Yeah.
And he's our father.
There's no such thing as awilderness.
You're in the world.

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And not of it though.
I walk through the valley of theshadow of death.
That Psalms 23 is not a Psalm toread just at a funeral.
That that's a shallowinterpretation.
That's actually a Psalm for theChristian when he gets born
again.
Yay.
Because the earth is cursed inthe sense that it has a time
limit on it, cursed in the sensethat it's suffering from the

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fall of man, until it's rolledup like a garment and burned
with fire, there won't be a newheaven or earth.
So this earth, as you know, itis gonna be totally, totally
removed.
So you're walking in the shadowof the valley of death, of a
place where revelation will cometo pass an earth.
That's gonna be rolled up like agarment and burned with fire.

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Did you get that?
Yes.
So you're walking, but you'renot fearing evil.
Darkness covers the earth anddeep darkness to people, but the
lights upon you think of Psalms23.
And, and in that place, walkingin the valley of the shadow of
death, it just seems like deathis in pending and waiting to
come.
It just seems like catastropheis lingering all the time.

(29:30):
There's just always, the Bibleactually says that there's
things that are gonna happen.
God's gonna come.
And it says that people inrevelations that aren't
prepared, that don't understand.
It says that it's it's, it's,it's gonna be a day of darkness.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Right.
And gloom because there's nohope when you're apart from him
and they're gonna cry out forrocks and trees to fall.
And then they're gonna seek tohide in a cave.
Least.
They have to face him beingapart from him.
I mean, that's serious thoughts.
So there's no such thing as awilderness when God's there.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Amen.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
The closer you are to God and the more you walk with
him, the more you'll see lifefor what it really is.
The you'll see life as aheadache without knowing him.
You'll see the people you workwith as a pain in the wherever,
wherever, just pick a holysanctified place.
The neck next time.

(30:35):
One of you say pray for my neck.
It hurts.
I'll say see your coworker,Claire.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
No.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
How do you see your

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Coworker?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I see my coworkers, a pain in the

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Butt.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's my neck.
That hurts.
Pray for my neck.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
My butt's fine.
No,

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I don't know where we're going.
Help.
Help,

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Help

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Serious.
If God's there.
If you're in relationship withhim, your perspective on life is
crystal clear.
If, if God's there, how can itbe a wilderness?
Were they in trouble in thewilderness?

Speaker 5 (31:17):
No.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Did they ever have a reason to complain in reality?
Were they ever gonna die?
But because they failed to seethe truth, they died, but they
weren't ever to die.
They didn't have to die.
They, they died because theydidn't see truth.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's powerful.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's

Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's never a wilderness please.
Don't don't get trapped and say,man, I'm in such a wilderness.
I told somebody recently, I said, it must be the Israeli's
wilderness because it's notproduced in life.
You're getting your eyes onyourself and how these
circumstances are affecting you.
And instead of manifesting, God,see if the circumstances are

(32:06):
manifesting, God, your eyesaren't on you.
And you don't even seewilderness.
You're actually manifesting Godin the midst of trial.
That's all it is.
If you turn inward and get trieson you and how life's affecting
you, you'll just say you're in awilderness.
Your whole life.
We're in the valley.
The shadow of death.
We're in the world.
We're not of it guys.
God's there.
God's there.

(32:28):
Okay.
Do you see why we spend so muchtime in knowing him to know him
as eternal life?
Not to pray a prayer, to knowhim, knowing him in your mind.
I got, I got on all that becauseI quoted Psalms one.
And then we went to 23.

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I'm if you meditate day andnight in the word, you don't sit
in the seat of the scornful.
You're not hanging out andrunning with the mindset of the
sinful man.
You're not living in the wisdomof the world.
You're camping out in truth.
It's the word of God.

(33:10):
You don't need opinions, guys.
You don't need your friend totell you what they think.
You don't need a piece ofsomeone's mind.
You know?
Well, let me give you myopinion.
Well, I'd like to give you someadvice on that brother, man, if
you know, I don't even like thatwhole advice thing.

(33:31):
I'd like to give you the, theword on this.
I believe this is the heart ofGod, cuz I see it in Jesus' life
and I'll share it not to beright in somebody's life.
I have no need to give youadvice.
I don't even want to youknow what I mean?
He's the spirit of council.
And I wanna give you a peace inmy mind.
I wanna give you his, do youknow what I mean?

(33:52):
Well, this, this is what Ithink.
Well brother, this is what Ithink you have to be careful
with that stuff.
Well, this is what I think.
I think you oughta because a lotof people, what they think has
been derived through whatthey've been through and they've
come up with an analogy to, toback up and comfort their
misunderstood mind throughwhatever.
And sometimes the interpretationof scripture is nothing more

(34:14):
than through the eye of how lifehas been.
You have to be very careful inthe church.
Sometimes people call me, pastorcould attest to this.
Do they ever call you?
And you're about the fourth inline.
You're about the fourth in line.
And they tell you whateverybody's been telling them in
the church.

(34:35):
Sometimes they make the mistakeat telling you who they called.
Cause I don't even want to knowthat stuff.
Cause then you have to, then youhave to work that outta your
soul.
You know, be very careful to notjust say, Hey, so and so this
and so and so that, and

Speaker 6 (34:51):
It's kinda cool.
A lot of times he'll tell.
Yeah, that's what Dan said.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Now we're on a good page right there.
Cause we're saying the samething, but see people will call
and then they'll call somebodyelse and call somebody else and
call somebody else.
And you're feeling en gropingand, and for stuff.
But you have to be very careful.
You're motive in that becauseyou might grab what you wanna
hear.
You might grab what you need tohear for your own flesh.

(35:19):
You might grab the thing that'sjust easier to yield to and
respond to.
And, and isn't it amazing howyou can call four people and get
four totally differentresponses.
Totally.
Yep.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Totally hear for everything.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Don't don't don't take offense in this.
I don't even wanna put you inthis position.
I, there's only a few people inmy life.
If I needed to call forsomething that I would even call
anyway, I'm seeking God.
If I, if I need to get somethingclarified, if I need I'm seeking
God, I'm not beyond counsel.
I'm not beyond you cheer me onand affirming something, but I'm

(35:57):
not just gonna just put you inthe position to say, Hey, what
do you think this and this andthis.
I don't, I wouldn't even dothat.
I'd actually want to know in Godis there's somebody I should
call.
Cuz there might be somebody thatknows exactly where I'm at and
what, and he just might wantthem to speak into my life.
But I'm not just gonna randomlyjust start reaching out and
asking, Hey, what do you thinkabout this?
What do you think about this?

(36:19):
I don't think that's, that's agood thing.
It's that's not, hasn't been ahealthy experience in my life
for people, for people and, andyeah like, like I had somebody
the other day, they went to achurch and the pastor, it
doesn't matter where, and noneof you will discern where,
because you don't need to knowand God won't let you know.
But this guy goes to a churchand the pastor he's talking to

(36:43):
the pastor when he left, thepastor said to the guy's friend
who invited him to his church.
He said, boy, you're the pastorsaid, boy, your friend's really
arrogant.
The friend went back and toldthe guy, well, my pastor said
you were arrogant.
And he also said he has adiscerning of spirits and you're
carrying this and this and sucha spirit.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And, and the friend that told me this said, you know
my heart griefs over that.
Cuz I know my heart.
I, I, it wasn't about arrogant.
I just didn't.
I just encouraged him in athought in the scripture.
He just took it as arrogant.
I don't.
I asked the lawyers there anyway, I was arrogant, but here's my
point.
It's not about debating.
Was he?
Or wasn't he arrogant?
Is he in denial?
Whatever the pastor telling acongregation member is just like

(37:31):
a Christian telling a Christianboy, they're really arrogant and
putting that in her soul.
Right.
And then saying, in fact, youknow, you know how I see things,
Jean?
Yeah.
Well, this is what I saw overthem really well.
How's that help them.
That just marks them and puts uson some spiritual trip.

(37:55):
That's

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Right

Speaker 2 (37:55):
At their expense.
So if you saw some over him,cast the thing off of them, deal
with it, love'em enough to pull'em aside and, and do something.
Don't just go tell four peoplewhat you saw over somebody,
because now they have to dealwith that knowledge.
And every time they hear theirname, they have to struggle with
how they see that person.

(38:16):
Yeah.
And then we wonder where God'spower is and why we're not
growing more.
And I, and we give ourself tothis stuff as if it's just
common every day, the way it is,man, you run from that stuff,
all this stuff doesn't fly withme.
You don't wanna be doing that.
And that's a pastor who peopleare respecting.
God forbid that I walk up toPhyllis and say, man, Phyllis,

(38:40):
your, your, your girlfriend,that girl, you brought to
church, man.
She needs to get a revelation.
She's got some serious issues.
I mean, she's got a lot of pridein her heart.
In fact, I saw demonic spirithaving over her.
If Phyllis respects me andPhyllis thinks I'm a man of God,
she is she's going

Speaker 7 (38:57):
What?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Oh my God.
And she has a relationship withthe person.
That's that's not, I'm notsaying, saw an evil spirit over
.
I'm not gonna tell you that.

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
To put that in.
And then now, now you're and she, Phyllis, why have you been
acting so weird lately?
Last three times went tobreakfast.
She's just looking at me strangeand mumbling.
What are you doing?

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Nothing.


Speaker 2 (39:23):
Come over, come out right now.
Now you can't even be a friendwith a clear conscience cause of
what I put in you.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'll just, just promise you if I thought I saw
something like that over yourlife.
I'd love for you.
I would pull you so far awayfrom the rest of the world and I
would love on you and talk toyou.
And I'd encourag you somethoughts.
And I would weigh that out.
I wouldn't even tell you what Isaw.
I would weigh that out and justminister and talk and see where
it goes.
I wouldn't, I would make much ofthat.
And, and if I didn't have theauthority or anointing to see

(39:57):
that thing delivered in yourlife, God forbid that that just
become your story.
And, and then you have need tosee, we have to be careful with
this stuff and counsel and quickpeace of mind.
And this is what I think behindthe scenes stuff, cuz a lot of
this skies we're doing, cuzwe're drawing some false sense
of identity and value out ofit's making us feel spiritual at
the cost of things.

(40:21):
Get what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (40:22):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Now watch this.
Now I know you're here in thisschool cuz you guys, they
obviously respect my life and myheart.
You don't hear me talking awhole lot about spiritual things
in my life.
Personally, manifestations,visions things I see on people.
You don't hear me talking aboutmy personal spiritual
experiences.
Do you hardly ever, but yetyou're at this school.

(40:48):
Cause you must see somethingthat makes you feel like I have
those things.
See?
It's not about those things andhow they look in my life.
It's it's it's the foundationthat those things flow from that
we're all hungry after.
Right?
That's right.
So by me not doing that, itreveals that there's a security

(41:12):
in that I'm equipped, qualifiedand I'm in him.
I don't have to bear witness ofthat.
Paul said it's not ourselves.
We preach it's

Speaker 7 (41:22):
Christ.
Amen.
Did you get it?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You all good?
We're gonna read this after wetake a break.
Bless you.
Take a break.
I'm already on.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
You're on you're rolling.
Whoa.
Well I just turned it closed.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Did you turn me on while I was talking?
I, I must have been into myconversation.
You were in my back pocket.
I didn't even know it.
Oh, okay.
My money's on this side.
He wouldn't pick pocket me.
Just you'd see.
I was just practicing you guysin first Corinthians.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
First 30.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Okay.
This came up yesterday.
Okay.
I think it was Sharon.
The uh, yeah.
Who's our wisdom.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Jesus.
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Jesus is the wisdom of God.
We're gonna look at it.
Okay.
Now when you find scriptureslike this in your Bible.
Oh my goodness.
Don't like just frame'em and put'em on your wall frame.
'em and put'em in your heart.
Okay.
like, oh my goodness.
This is amazing.
Well, let's just, let's justread.

(42:47):
Let's just read the word ofGod's amazing.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonnapreach cuz there's something we
gotta get to.
I know you don't believe thatuntil I do it anymore.
That's okay.
I understand that.
I can handle that.
I don't see that as judgment.
I've given you the right tothink that way.
I understand that.
But I'm puring now just to read,but I want you to hear this
whole chapter in context.
So that's just read you readyfirst Corinthians chapter one.

(43:08):
It's a lot of scripture, butwe're just gonna read.
So it's okay.
Be just like if you're at home,just in the word, Paul called to
be an apostle of, of JesusChrist through the will of God.
That's secure and Sohan and, andour brother to the church of
God, which is, is, is at Quointo those who are sanctified in

(43:28):
Christ.
Jesus called to be saints withall who in every place, call in
the name of Jesus Christ, star,Lord, both theirs and ours.
This is so cool.
Grace to you in peace from God,our father and the Lord, Jesus
Christ.
I thank my God.
Always concerning you for thegrace of God, which was given to
you by Christ Jesus, that youwere enriched in everything by

(43:50):
him, in all utterance and allknowledge, even as the testimony
of Christ was confirmed in youso that you come short in no
gift eagerly waiting for therevelation of our Lord.
Jesus Christ, man.
There's so much there.
That's hard not to preach whowill also confirm you to the end
that you may be blameless in theday of our Lord.

(44:13):
Jesus Christ.
God is faithful by whom you werecalled into the fellowship of
his son.
Jesus Christ.
Our Lord.
Now I plead with you brethren bythe name of our Lord Jesus
Christ, that you all speak.
The same thing that there be nodivisions.
Some Bibles say schisms,probably no divisions among you,

(44:36):
but that you be perfectly joinedtogether in the same mind and
the same judgment.
That's a big deal.
You might not totally see eye toeye on everything, scripturally
doctrinally in our lives, butI'll tell you what.
We can see our identity, thepurpose of Christ coming.
The reason he sent his son.

(44:57):
There's some things that we cansee that are so foundational
that we need to begin to agreeon.
Look, you can believe it's God'swill to heal everybody.
And I could believe that it'snot.
I reversed that cuz I believe itis, but I just reversed that and
we can still wake up in the samefaith, the faith that I'm

(45:19):
created in God's image.
And I'm born again to berestored back to his image and
become love and manifest theheart of God to the world around
me.
I can believe that is the wholereason I'm saved and still might
not be sure it's God's will toheal everybody.
That doesn't make me differentthan the person that says it's
God's will to heal everybody cuzwe're all still living for the

(45:39):
same reason.
Does that make sense?
I feel that makes sense to abouthalf the people who doesn't that
make sense to, you know, okay.
I, I feel that in the room, itactually feels like a, a bunch
of people.
What's it mean by the faith?

(45:59):
The Bible talks about the faith,the faith what's the good fight
of faith.
Is that spiritual warfare?
No it's maintaining the identityyou've received through Christ.
The faith.
The faith is the reason we'reborn.
Again.

(46:21):
Come on.
Righteousness were therighteousness of God in Christ
where his sons and daughterswere created in his image.
He saved us to redeem us back tooriginal value and work to call
bear wi were called to bear,witness to his image.
We're the body of Christ.
Now we're the children of God.

(46:41):
We're the people that representthe heart of God.
We're saved to become love.
Now watch now watch that's thecommon Bible knowledge of the
faith and all those things.
I just preached.
Some of us have never heard inyour whole life going to church

(47:02):
until whenever you heard it,whether it was preaching it here
, harvest chapel, neck,ministries, whatever.
I have people tell me all thetime.
I feel like I heard the gospelfor the first time.
Mm-hmm and all I'mpreaching is VA faith.
Cause we've made the faith allabout demonic warfare, all about
healing, the sick, all aboutwhether tongues is or isn't of

(47:25):
God and all this stuff.
We've made all these aspects ofthe Christian life.
The thing that's divided us, andwe haven't even preached clear
why we're Christians And webuild all these camps and all
this stuff.
And we got 600 churches in yourcounty.
And a lot of it's not becausethey're called.
I'm not saying who ISN and whoisn't.

(47:45):
It's just obvious that God it'sjust obvious that God doesn't
need 600 churches in Yorkcounty.

Speaker 9 (47:52):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I know people don't like talking about this.
That's a touchy one for peoplethat it's, it's obvious, not
every one of those churches canbe ordained called and the will
of God.
Sometimes they're only raised upcuz we can't agree.
They only start up because wewant to do.
And then the trap is then iswhen you get out in that church,
then you project on everybodyelse through what God's doing
with you.
That's right.
See, we should have broke awaycuz I never felt God like that.

(48:18):
Where I used to go to church.
That is judgment.
That's putting that place down.
That's you stare that's prideand you're telling me you're
having a great move of God.
No, your heart's deceived andbound in pride.
Cause you're just reflecting,pointing back.
You think God's moving among youso you can reflect on another
church and degrade anotherchurch.

Speaker 9 (48:41):
It's

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Good.
We left there brother.
I'll tell you I ain't felt theholy ghost.
Like we just had this morning,you know, in the last six years
over in that dry bone, thatstuff should make us cry.
You shouldn't need to startanother work to feel the
presence of God.
Anyway, he's already in you.

(49:03):
I don't go to church to feel thepresence of God.

Speaker 9 (49:06):


Speaker 2 (49:13):
Had a lady do it to me this weekend.
She slid right up to me.
And if you'd have heard themessage I preached, it was, it
was beyond my understanding thatshe slid up to me and said what
she said.
And then I have to address allthat stuff.
Cause I love people.
And at the risk of hurting oroffending or how they hear it, I

(49:33):
shared you.
You just can't believe themessage I shared.
And at the end I went and sawwhat was going on in the church.
And I just laid out what wasgoing in the church and
everybody went and one personran up crying and said, I was
one of those five people.
I've been spewing poison.
I've been this and this.
And I have to make things right.

(49:54):
And I'm going to pastor.

Speaker 9 (49:56):
I said, good girl.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
But another lady came up after

Speaker 9 (50:00):
All that and said, boy,

Speaker 2 (50:02):
The next day came right up to me.

Speaker 9 (50:05):
Boy, that was so anointed.
I felt the power God in thischurch for years like that, da,
da, da, da,

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Da.
And it was a projection onleadership.
She was making sure I knew that,you know, she's saying
leadership's not where theyshould be.
And they this and there that,and she's gone to no wonder she
hasn't been feeling the presenceof God.
The only reason she felt thepresence of God was because the

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topic I was talking about Godwas speaking to her, but she was
hearing the sermon for them.

Speaker 10 (50:42):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
And then I have to deal with that stuff because I
love people.
I'm I don't mean deal with it ina bad way.
In other words, I address itthen because God gives me
wisdom.
And all of a sudden you have totell somebody, well actually
honey, the reason you felt thepresence, God, cuz because of
what you just said, God wasactually speaking to you, not
your leadership.

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And you're too busy hearing themessage for your leadership cuz
you have unresolved issues andGod's speak in your own heart
and you can't hear becauseyou're hearing for them, not
you.
And every time you come tochurch, you're hearing for your
leadership.
You know, you can go to churchand listen to the sermon for
your spouse or you can go listenfor yourself and be a better
spouse.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Was that recorded?
Good.
Get the CD baby.
pass that one around theworld.
That was a word from the Lord.
come on.
You can hear the sermon forothers.
You

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Can be sitting there and God could be speaking right
to some in your life.
And you got an unresolved issueor a belief that's less than
edifying.
And you're thinking, boy, I hopeFred's listening right now.
I hope he's over there.
And you're looking over andyou're trying to get cha on, on
Fred or, or

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Bill or Bob or George to see

Speaker 2 (51:57):
If they're how they're responding.
Cuz you're here in the sermonfor them.
That means you're carryingjudgments.
If you're not carryingjudgements, but you have an
awareness that those things areprevalent in someone's life.
Cause I'm a pastor.
So I'm involved in a lot ofpeople's lives.

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So when I hear a certain sermon,I can't help sometimes.
But to hear that word speakingdirectly to certain people And
in my heart, there's a way youwould respond if that would
happen.
God.
So thank you for loving us tospeak these things.
You know the people in my heartright now, God, and I just thank
you.
And the only reason I'm thinkingthat is cuz the conversations

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you under.
Yeah.
You're so good.
Thanks.
I can inter that word goingright in and blessing them and
bring in life cuz you love'em somuch.
And all of a sudden it'shealthy, valued thing I have to.
How can you imagine how, if Iwasn't clear in my conscience,
my mode of pure, how could Ieven stand up?
How could pastor Don stand upand preach in his home
congregation when he's aware ofso much?

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If your heart's not pure, ifyou're not walking in love,
you'll just project.
You'll use the pulpit to try toresolve issues.
And that's actually sin.
Like if you ever get a chance, Idon't know I'm on this RO now.
But if you get a chance to do alittle Bible study or speak

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somewhere, don't try to speakinto the people because of what
you're aware of.
Just preach Jesus and it allwork out.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Cause it's projection.
That's you get what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 (53:44):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Now I can't help.
Okay.
Say Dean comes to me this weekand Justin comes to me and John
comes to me and we, and I talkto them through the week and
they bear their heart.
And some one just talks about aconscience issue.
One just talks about maybe amarital issue.
One just talks about just, youknow, a couple other things.

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Now I got all that this week ininteraction with people now I'm
preaching and they're all in thecongregation.
It's inevitable that somethingI'm preaching is gonna directly
connect to the veryconversation.
But the key is that I'm not eventhink of that in my heart's

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before God.
And usually he totally blinds mefrom that.
So I'm not distracted cuz if Iwas anywhere, not sincere in it
and I'm preaching and I'mlooking at Dean and I see Dean's
face and now I'm preaching it.
Then my mind's gonna realbecause I'm gonna think, wow, am
I just preaching that?
Just because Dean just talkedabout that and I'm now I'm, you

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know, da, da, da, da.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And it's not clean.
Then it could hurt.
Dean Dean could think, oh myGod.
Now he's exposing that from he'stalking.
I know who he's talking to.
Cause you know what I mean?
Cuz just say I left him in faithand we weren't in total.
Maybe he just said, well look,I'll pray about it, Dan.
I don't know.
I just don't know how I feel inthis.
And now on Sunday, I can't behandcuffed to preach the gospel,

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but the key is I release all men, him, my heart's pure.
I'm not even thinking aboutwhere everybody is.
I just wanna do what you want todo.
God say what you wanna say.
And I find that I preach and saystuff.
And then people come and say,were you talking to me?
Cuz man, I just talked to youtwo weeks ago and I haven't been
here.
And I just felt like, did yousee me out there?

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Were you trying to, and they'll,or they'll feel hurt or they'll
feel this or that.
And, and I can sincerely look'emin the eyes and go, oh my gosh,
I wasn't even thinking aboutthat.
I didn't even realize sometimesI didn't even see a person's
face.
I remember one time I was doingthat and the lady was sitting
right, like right here.
And it was at the end of theservice.

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I realized she was sitting thereand I was like pH.
And I went to her because Ithought of it at the end and
made sure she was okay.
I would've never been able topreach what I preached.
If I saw her face first.
That's how serious that is to myheart, to not do that, that God
actually made it.
Like she wasn't there because hestill needed to say what he
wanted to say.

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But if I had looked, saw herthere, I would've felt
handcuffed.
Isn't that?
Cool.
God will do neat stuff whenyou're not trying to do a
certain thing in that sense,like set things straight.
Or I got a vision one night.
I was, I was woke up in themiddle of the night.
I don't dream cuz I'm not an oldman.
I woke up and he wakes me up.

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I woke up and, and I got avision of a lady and I saw her
face and I saw exactly when sheshe's going through in the
depression and the differentthings.
And I saw what God wanted to doand what he was saying to her.
And I went to church.
I was so excited cuz I knew itwas God.
And I was, I was like thinking,oh man, we're gonna start the
service with a blast.
I'm just gonna call this ladyout into the aisle, speak this

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stuff, prophesy.
God's gonna just shake her androck her and Wacker.
And everybody will be like onpage.
And then we'll just preach thegospel.
Well, I get up to open up thepreach and I'm just pouring out
my heart and preaching andpreaching and preaching.
The lady is sitting right there.
The second row I walked past her, walking up the aisle.

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I walked past her 20 times.
I'm at the very end of theservice and I didn't know where
God was taken.
And I'm like, and, and I said,you know, I said right now and I
went, oh my goodness.
And I started to cry.
I said, have you been sittingthere the whole service?
And she went, yeah.

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I saw you in a vision lastnight.
God woke me up and show me.
And I was so excited when I cameto church, cuz I wanted to kick
off the service with a blast andda, da, da.
I wanted to find you and callyou right out.
I never saw you the whole time.
Cause there's something Godwants to do right now.
Cause I had already preached theword.

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See, why am I saying this stuff?
How's this helpful for theschool.
You're surrendered to him.
You have no need to do or beanything to anybody.
But what he's saying and doingyou're surrendered, you're
yielded.
I had zero in my heart.
It wasn't wrong to have thatzero.
It wasn't wrong to feel thatway.
But in my heart, I don't everwanna miss God or project or be

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presumptuous in my heart.
I'm in relationship.
And I'm saying, holy spirit,keep me from that place.
So what's she do totally erasesthe lady mm-hmm and
I never see her a whole time.
And then I shared what I saw.
She's balling uncontrollably.
She stepped out, bam, God tookthat thing off of her.
And then it just went into awhole bunch of stuff and it was

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just so sweet.
But if I'd have did it in maze,it's kinda like David, he wanted
to build a house for the Lord.
Yeah.
And you know what God said tohim?
If you read it in Samuel, he, hesaid, no, it's not for you to
build.
But did you know?
He said, but it's good that youhave the desire.
It's good that you have thedesire, David, but it's not for
you to build it's it's forSolomon.

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You get the stuff prepared foryour son, but he affirmed his
desire.
Hey, it's cool that you have thedesire.
I'm glad you wanna do that forme, but that's not the highest
best, and it's not gonna bethrough you, but man, it's cool.
You have the desire.
It's almost like Dan, it's cool.
You have the desire and yourZell zealous and you wanna pull
her out and this and that.
But you know what?
I have a much better timing.
So P how sweet is that?

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Come on.
Isn't that relationship though?
You say no, that's just straightgifting.
God, no.
There's relationship in thatthere's relationship in that.
Do you hear relationship in that?
Yeah.
Yeah I do.
Okay.
I said I wasn't gonna preach.
So you guys that knew I couldn'tgo the whole way through there.
You were, you were right.
You were right.

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I plead with youbrother.
See this doesn't feel thatgreat.
Just to be right.
That didn't do anything to beright.
Did it?
It's being righteous.
It'll change your life.
Not being right.
being right.
Doesn't mean a thing.
So when you're right, you makesomebody wrong.
It's being righteous.
Righteous makes nobody wrong.
There's a big difference betweenthe two.

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Now I plead with you brethren bythe name of our Lord, Jesus
Christ that you all speak thesame thing.
See, it was just too good topass up.
I had to speak on that.
That there'd be no divisionsamong you, but that you be per
perfectly joined together in thesame mind and the same judgment.
So if every one of us have thesame mind to become love, then

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love will rule among us.
And if there's issues that areself-centered offended oriented,
if there's great injustice amongus, if love is our foundation
and we're rooted in ground inlove, we'll deal with or handle
everything or flow througheverything with love.
There'll be no division amongus.
We'll understand the heart ofGod through the whole thing.
We'll understand certaindisciplines, certain ways we

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correct one another certainways.
We do things.
Why?
Cause we all understand whywe're in this thing and there's
no self-serving, self-centereddesire.
We're one.
We're the body of Christ.
And we're seeing and throughlove.
It's not, well, I don't feel why.
I don't think that's fair.
Well, I think you should change.
Well, I think, well, how comewell, sister, Sally didn't get
it.
And so a lot of times all thatis, is self preference and

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stuff.
Apart from truth.
Apart from us, sometimessomebody did something and the
person, they did it against youlike that person and are close
to that person.
So the person that did itagainst them, you take personal
interest in that.
And, and all of a sudden youtake it a little more to heart
than you would the normalcircumstance cause of who they
did it to.
And now you're responding.
And then you don't realize thatthat has an edge to it because

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of your motive.
You see this stuff's important.
The more we be rooted andgrounded in love and come from
the same mind, joined togetherand fitly perfectly together
like that.
The more we'll respond from thatsteady place of love.
That's isn't that how God has tofunction.
Come on.
He is love.
It's not what he does.

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So this is just importanttogether.
Same mine, same judgment.
Ford has been declared to meconcerning you.
My brothern, that, that, thoseof, of, of how do you say that?
Chloe?
Chloe, Chloe.
Chloe.
Oh, Chloe's house Chloe.

Speaker 11 (01:02:22):
Chloe's

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
That there are contentions among you.
Woo.
No way.

Speaker 11 (01:02:29):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Now I say this, each of you says I am of Paul.
I am of a Polish.
I am Sivas I'm Chris.
See how we got 600 churches?
Yeah.
Is Christ divided?
No, I'm not naming how many andwhich ones are and aren't,
that's not for you.
And me to decide is just obviousin the big picture that
something happened is Christdivided.
Was Paul crucified for you?

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Were you baptized in the name ofPaul?
I thank God that baptized.
None of you, except doesn't meanthat he doesn't see the value of
baptism.
It's because of the way peoplehandled baptism and, and he's
glad he didn't baptize a wholebunch of people cuz he'd had
just a big camp of Paula mitesand they'd all thought they were
more baptized than the peoplethat Apollo baptized they'd have
thought they were maybe moresanctified or they might have

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got at a lunch table and said,who baptized you?
Oh, well Paul baptized me.
That's what people do.
And that's what Paul'saddressing.
Come on.
That's twisted.
Can you hear how twisted thatis?
But isn't it amazing thatsometimes that stuff matters and
seems that way and you can findyourself projecting on it.

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This is as you know, you neverfasted 40 days.
Well, I fasted 40 days, youought fast.
40 days.
That kind of conversation needsto stop in the church.
If you understand love, you'llnever talk like that ever.
That's why we're talking aboutlove.
Well, I fasted 21 days.
Yeah.
I went, I went 24 once, but thenI came off and then the fourth

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person listening and acted likethey weren't even caring.
Cause they're reading a booksays, yeah man, I'll never
forget when I went on that 45day, man, that was man.
That was a, it just, and it justgoes on and on.
You gotta be careful.
Yeah.
I was fast once the Lord said,if you fast pass today, it's for
nothing.

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I was so locked in.
I didn't even feel like I wasfast and I was so psychological
or locked in.
I was so ready.
I wasn't hungry.
I wasn't weak.
I wasn't nothing.
I don't get a whole lot thatanyway, cuz I fasted a bunch
over the years, but I was like,I was going to never, never
land.
I was gonna reach a point.
I had never reached, I was goingout there.

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Right.
cause for years,February the month of February,
I would just shut down fast aslong as I felt like it with no
cutoff point, if it was thewhole month.
Great.
But I didn't have any, but Iwould just go for it.
Well this time.
So I had that in my, mybackground and I thought, ah,
I'm going for it.
And on the point that I hadnever been on that day, I'm in

(01:05:04):
my bathroom.
And that's what the Lord saidoutta the blue to me, if you go
past today, it's for nothing.
And I was like, what?
But what what?
And he said, because you lostsight of what, what you're
doing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
He said, and it'll be for nothing.
And I said, but Lord, he saidthe fact that you would butt
Lord

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
,

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
That's what he said, eyeballed.
He said the fact that you wouldbutt Lord shows exactly where
you are.
Dan and I was so done by then.
I was there when the butt, Istill don't have a butt in me
from to that day.
Cuz it blew all the butts outtame.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):


Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
But here's what he showed me.
I was balling so hard in thebathroom.
I ran down.
I ran down and diluted tomatojuice and came off the fast
instantly, immediately just toobey.
I was so convicted.
And then I started bawling.
I walked back up the bathroom,closed the around, balling like
a baby.

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And I'm just sitting there cuz Iknow he is gonna come wrap his
arm around me and father me cause I was bawling.
Cuz he said the fact that youwould, but me, I was like,

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
That's what I did.
You have no idea.
I, I

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Was stunned man.
And then he come and he's like,now look, honey, honey, come
here.
Look.
I love you.
I love you.
But you don't see this.
And he's like cuddling me, me asright on his lap.

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He said, if I don't bring thesethings to your attention,
they're so subtle.
He said, if it's about a amountof days, you're fasting, then
you open your heart to pride andfallen into pride.
And you're hearing that somebodyelse fasted this and you might
not even say it, but you mightthink in your mind, wow.

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Well I fasted.
He said, when those thingsmatter, you've lost sight of who
you are and what you're doingand why.
And he wouldn't have me do thatnow.
Why is she coming?
Why is she coming andintervening and saving me like
that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
Cause

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
He loves you.
He loves me.
But watch this.
I totally know that and receivethat.
And I have talked to him so muchabout fathering me and not
letting me get off track.
And the ability of me to go intodarkness and weakness on my own
is obvious and evident to you.
And it would be daily.
If you weren't the grace in mylife come and father me don't
let me get off track.
I talk to him like this, kick mein the butt.

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If you have to, cuz I know youlove me, but don't let me get
off the straight and narrow.
I talk to him like that.
He can correct me.
He's the father.
And he loves me.
He's not saying you dummy.
He's not coming in and saying,what are you doing?
Didn't I tell you not to dothat.
Or you make me so mad becausewe've been touched that way in

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correction, all our lives.
We're afraid to just give himtotal access to our lives and
trust that he's a

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
Father.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
He's good.
God.
He has saved me in those kind ofsituations.
A whole bunch of times where ifhe wouldn't have spoke, I
would've been deceived and I'dhave a resume of deception.

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
There's people that do those long, fast, and then
they get caught in those thingsand it takes'em in weird places
and ministries might even fallbecause of it because of where
it ends up leading the pride andwhat it goes from this to this
and the way the stone skips andripples.
And now you got more and youknow how things work?
Why does that stuff happen?
I'm convinced in my heart thatthe more we get alone with him

(01:09:02):
and give ourself to him and lethim father us and ask him to
father us and give him totalaccess to our life.
My life is not my own.
I'm on the earth for your glory.
I'm on the earth for your image.
I'm not in works.
I'm in you.
Your grace is able to take mewhere you desire.
If I'm in one bit in the flesh,one bit off track, one bit in

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the wisdom of man, I thank you.
You'll father me in this thingand reveal the truth to me in
every circumstance andsituation.
I talk like that.
I pray like that.
It's very important to sharethat with you.
If we're talking aboutrevelation and knowing him and
you see what I mean, veryimportant to ask him to father
you, thank you.

(01:09:44):
You're my father.
Every time you call him, yourfather, what are you saying?
I'm your child.

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
You

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Father means come forth from every time I call him
father, I'm saying I came forthfrom you.
Your DNA's in me.
I look just like you.
I can see me in you or is it youin me?
You know, if you say you lookjust like your dad, see, it

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doesn't even matter how much yousay I don't look like my dad and
you weigh your life.
Introspectively and negatively.
He's your dad.
You ought to look deeper.
You look just like your dad.
You can't change that.
So why not walk in it?
You get it.
Come on.
I know.
I feel a little flaker rightnow.

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I don't know how I look or toyou.
I hope I'm making sense, but Isure feel like he's my dad.
I don't know about you, but I amso glad I didn't finish that
fast.

(01:10:58):
The, the, I think that that'sfunny.
That's funny.
He said if I was reallyspiritual, I'd have picked a
longer month February.
That was too funny.
No, it actually the Februarything.
That's so cool,

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Man.
The February thing

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Is a timing thing for my life and schedule cuz you
know, actually there's asacrifice when you do long Fest,
when you're traveling in certainthings in different and there
was just a reason it wasFebruary

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
so there's that is so good.
That's too good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
What made you even think that brother?
Would

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
You stretch your hands?
We're gonna pray.
No, I was funny.
I like that.
He said that so funny.
That was I thinking did, but

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Really, really think if he wouldn't intervened, I
might still be fasting and thinkI'm God himself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
I might still be on the fast walking high
above you.
Oh hi Brian, yell a little

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Louder.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I can't hear you come up hitter.
if he wouldn't haveadjusted me, who knows what
might have happened?
I might have swelled

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Up and popped.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Okay, come on, everybody stop.
Help me stop.
cause I am

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Already in trouble.
I've been in trouble.
He's thanking God.
He baptized none of them becauseof the way they were acting.
Not because he didn't see thepower and beauty of baptism cuz
he saw what was happening.
Look, he qualifies it.
At least any of you should saythat I had baptized in my own
name.
In other words, I was baptizedinto Paul or with Paul by Paul,

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you know?
Yes.
I also baptized the householdToons besides I do not know
whether I baptized any other forChrist did not send me to
baptize, but to preach thegospel, not with wisdom of words
, least the cross of Christshould be made of no effect.
Isn't that a powerful phrase,but the manifestation of life or

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the demonstration of power there, that all it's all inclusive.
It's it's the fruit of yourlife.
It's not the wisdom of words Andwatch for the message of the
crosses foolishness to those whoare perishing.
This means a whole lot.
I don't have time to teach thesouth.
It it's not really prevalent towhere we're to go today, but
it's powerful to those who areperishing, but to us who are

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being saved, it is the power ofGod.
So to the lost it's foolish.
It's like whatever I willdestroy.
Now watch what he's saying.
He's talking about a wisdom.
That's on the earth.
He's talking about the mindsetof men.
It happens to be the way thatseems right to a man.
Okay?
Watch.

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I will destroy the wisdom of thewise and bring to nothing.
The understanding of theprudent.
Where is the wise question mark?
Where is describe question mark.
Where is the disputer of thisage question?
Mark has not.
God made foolish the wisdom ofthis world.
See that's to make so totalsense to us now when he is

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writing this because the wisdomsof the world and the world's
ways are so no longer our wayswe've been renewed in the spirit
of our mind.
We've been redeemed.
We're seen through Christ we'rewe, we are no longer feeling
unworthy.
Cuz the gospel says we'reworthy.
Wisdom has shifted the way itused to be.
It is no more you say, but I sayyou say, but I say it's all

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through Matthew in chapter six,you say, but I say he came and
changed the language.
He changed the wisdom.
Did you get it?
So he's, he's expecting us tosee the truth through Christ.
Watch this.
He made foolish the wisdom ofthis world.
He made it foolish.
Yes man.

(01:15:14):
You can get alone.
Watch this.
Oh gosh.
I'm gonna just do somethinghere.
You can get alone and say fatherI'll thank you.
It is foolish to fear becauseyou are the Lord.
God, it is foolish to worrybecause you are faithful.
And if you sent your son to diefor me, if you sent your son to
raise me from the dead and putlife in me, why would I worry if

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you're the almighty God, cuzit's not about just me anymore.
It's about you in me and youthrough me and my life is not my
own.
It is foolish to live in worryand fear foolish to live in
strife and stress because yourlove is what I've become.
That's the way we're called topray.
Yes, yes.

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We don't pray like that.
We haven't even been taught topray like that.
We just pray about trouble andwhat's wrong and how cruddy we
feel and hoping God changesthat.
And I read something like thisand it's meditating in the word
meditating means to muse andmutter and, and repeat and, and

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now meditate.
You can see as a quiet sometimesit's that way.
Sometimes it's very aggressivewith me right now.
I feel very aggressive becauseyou know what?
It's foolish for me to think theway I used to think it would be
foolish for me, God, to beoffended.
Now that love has come.
You weren't offended in me.
How could I be offended in anyman?
God, when I didn't know what Iwas doing, you love me.

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People don't know what they'redoing or they wouldn't do what
they do.
I love the world around me.
God, I see the value of peoplecuz you showed me the value of
my life.
That's prayer.
You walk in your bedroom and youjust pray like that.
And you just speak that.
And it sounds like you're theonly one talking Angelo, but
I'll tell you what's happeninginside of you is becoming alive.

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Grace is touching it.
Holy Spirit's making it yourreality.
And somewhere in the process,your eyes getting converted and
the way you see is changing andyou cannot come out of the
bedroom.
The same that right?
Exactly.
You might not feel anydifferent.
You might not know you changed.
You might not, but you'll startseeing things different,

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responding, different.
You get thrown into a fire, butbecause you pursued the gospel
in truth, in the secret place,when the fire rises, the
gospel's there to defend you.
If you wait for the fire andthen try to run to the gospel,
you're late, you're

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Late.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
And that's why we lose so many, so many, so many,
so many battles.
Okay?
Forgive my excitement.
I, I, yeah.
I feel excited about this.
This is powerful.
Where has not God, it's aquestion.
Has God not God made foolish thewisdom of this world.

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When he sent his son and showedus what truth really looks like.
He came to his own and his ownreceived him.
The world was created throughhim and the world knew him.
Not why?
Because of perversion, theperversion of the fall man's eye
and perspective got totallycontorted, twisted and

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perverted.
And he turned inwardsself-centered and deceived.
Oh the gospel, Ugh.
180.
Totally changed.
Has he not, has he not madefoolish the wisdom that you and
I lived by?
Yeah.
Right.
How does that become real to youby knowing it in your head and

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reading it in your Bible orcoming into agreement with it
and exchanging it out of yourheart, you believe, but out of
your mouth, you make confessionand all of a sudden you connect
it to in a place of secretprayer, holy spirits, there
faiths there.
You're accepting that you'relaying down your rights by
saying, wow, all these thingsworry and fear.
And I don't even reserve theright for this natural knowledge

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has no place in me.
The wisdom of God reigns in mylife.
Holy spirit.
Thank you for the revelation ofthese things.
And as you're praying them,grace is making it your reality.
Does this make sense?

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
It's such a big deal and you're gonna see how much of
a big deal this is.
It's just gonna get bigger for,since in the wisdom of God,
watch this.
Oh my goodness.
For, since in the wisdom of God,the world through wisdom did not
know God.
So in the wisdom of God, theworld through wisdom did not

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know God.
So through the fall, God leavesthis period of time go called
the old Testament, old covenantlaw of sin and death.
There's a whole lot there to seeand learn and understand.
And in the wisdom of God, we canlook and see that through human
wisdom.
The world couldn't know God.
They actually thought everythingthat happened was God.

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They had a terrible revelationof God.
They were very sin conscious,very self-conscious right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Watch it.
Pleased God through thefoolishness of the message
preach to

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Save those who believe

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Humility right in the face of human pride takes
humility, not false humility,humility to be.
I love, I love that.
He calls this the word of Godand asks me to believe it
because it just chops to pieces.
Every other opinion and mindsetthat would otherwise try to rule
my life.
It causes me.

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It almost forces me.
If you will.
I don't mind talking like this.
It almost forces me to calleverything else.
Not true and embrace this.
It, it is such a sanctifyingthought to me and, and in, and
the wisdom of man and the prideof man still in the quest for
knowledge, making his mind Godand a God unto himself says,

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well, men just wrote this.
Well, I can't believe everythingin that book.
All you're saying is I wannastill be in charge.
I want the wisdom I live by tostill be the wisdom that rules,
I'm still a God under myself,right?

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
That's

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
It's powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
How I

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Love that.
God handed us this and said it'salive and active, sharper than
any double sword that it wasn'tpenned by men.
But men inspired by holy spirit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
I believe that

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
The wisdom of the world says, wow, brother, come
on.
The boss says, don't read thatall the time.
You'll get too narrow minded.
Remember yesterday,

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
What a revelation he had.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I'm really concerned for you, Dan, all you ever reads
the Bible.
You're gonna be so narrow minded.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
If my eyes single

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Light light,

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
It doesn't say if your eyes single, your body's
flood with light, unless ofcourse you're faced with many
issues and challenges.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):


Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
If your eyes single, you flow with light, cuz you'll
see all your issues andchallenges through that light.
And that light is truth.
And it's never about you.
It's never about just you.
It's about manifesting Christ inevery situation.
Even when it involves familyloved ones, it's always about
the integrity of who he is inthe face of every situation.

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Even when it feels like you loseyour response is a sign of
integrity and trust to God and,and worthiness to God and all
that stuff.
Even when you lose, even when itfeels like you lose the bottom
line of Christian can't everlose, oh, there might be some
temporal physical things thatslip by early people slip away
on us.
We tend to lose some battles inthe natural.

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I understand.
But if you really understand thebig picture and the window of
this little wisp and vapor of alife that we have, you'll
realize you can't lose whenyou're in Christ Jesus and
you'll thank God for the bloodof Jesus Christ.
That's preserved your loved onefor eternity.
And that'll be bigger.
That'll start growing biggerthan the fact that they left

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early, Come on or you put allyour marbles down now.
And the fact that they leftearly is devastating.
You.
And now you're unproductive cuzyou're grieved beyond measure
and you can't even functionbecause of the natural reality
of this.
And even where was God and how,how could ever trust again?
And you put all your marbles onthis natural little window

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called life.
When this little window is aprivilege to reveal the
integrity of your love for himand who he really is and why
come on, that'll help you.
If you'll grab that.
I share testimony of ThurmanScrivener all the time.
I don't know who knows who heis, Texas.
I'm not sure why people don'tknow more about him.

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I sat and watched him.
He stood he's Thurman Scrivener.
He stood this far from me in aservice.
I sat for three hours.
He talked about faith andknowing God and I sat there like
this and I thought it was 15minutes.
I didn't even, I lost track oftime story after storying

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things.
And you had all these picturesof his granddaughter, she didn't
even look like a human being.
She didn't even look like hadall these pictures of his
granddaughter.
Didn't even look like a humanbeing on life support stuff.
It looked like it looked likeground meat, Head on collision
70 mile an hour, no breaks andall the shards and metal and all

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that stuff just severed herbrain, brain dead.
And you couldn't tell, honestly,guys, you couldn't tell it was a
little girl or a person letalone a little girl and God
restored her with no scars.

Speaker 10 (01:25:07):
Wow,

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
No brain damage, not blind, but in the process, his
wife and daughter in thataccident, that was his
granddaughter.
His wife and daughter gotdismembered and instantly killed
in that car wreck.
Now, if you don't have anintegrity and understanding
toward who God is in the midstof a calamity like that, you're

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in no position to see themiraculous like that through
your granddaughter.
But because of the extremeintegrity in the midst of a
horrendous calamity like that,there's a power that we, most of
us have yet to see cuz he stoodthere and chuckled when they
unplugged life support becausehe told him she's not gonna die.
And they said, you need to facereality.
She has to die.

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And he said, you probably all goto church.
Don't you?
And they all admitted to goingto church, the medical staff.
He said, well, that's a shamebecause you don't believe this.
So pull the plug.
And when they pulled it, shebreathed and coughed and they
said, oh my God, I don't believethis in all their medical heads.
The wisdom

Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
He said, isn't that amazing?
Now God's moving right in frontof you.
And you still don't believe hesaid I'm taking her out of your
care.
And he signed her out of thehospital, brain severed brain
stem, blind and a vegetable.
But now she's breathing cough.
And he took her home, signed heroutta the hospital and took her

(01:26:33):
home, said she's no longer underyour care.
See that kind of stuff we don'tunderstand.
But if he sees that that's right, then the fruit will be there
to be seen, took her home andsat her up in bed, called her by
name.
You will sit up.
You have to sit up cuz of thekingdom of God, you must sit up
and she'd fall back on the bed.

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Like a, like a dummy, like a,like a fake.
He just sit her back on thethird time she just sat.
This is the stuff you can'tbarely even tell.
The only reason he can tell itis because of the results.
He stands her outta bed.
I, I, I, nowhere near this, ifit's another person's life and a

(01:27:16):
child, but he understood, he wasin authority and he wasn't doing
it to try to prove the gospel.
He was doing it.
Cuz he believes the gospel.
He took her outta bed and stoodher.
When I heard his testimonybefore I went to see him, I
pulled the car off the road andcried and, and really felt like
I wasn't saved.

Speaker 10 (01:27:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Now I'm not saying that in a condemning way.
It was like, ah, I won't chooseso much.
It wasn't that bad thing.
Like I'm not even born again.
I just felt like I was so farfrom where I'm called that it
made me like God reach.
He took her and stood her andcommanded her to stand.
You have to stand cuz Jesus isLord.

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And he let her go and didn'tcatch her.
And she just took her back upand stood her.
And like the third time or soshe's just standing there.

Speaker 10 (01:28:09):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
And he kept on and then she began to talk and
everything.
And the last thing was her eyesopened and there was a feed
tube.
She was on for 10 months.
And he went in the bedroom andsaid, why Lord, I need you to
father me on this.
Why isn't she off that thing yet?
I've seen you do all thesemiracles and take all these
things away in the face of allthese doctors and glorify your
name and show your great lovefor us.

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Why, what am I missing?
Cuz it says whatever I askbelieving it shall be done.
What am I missing in my beliefsystem on this?
Where am I not seeing clear?
Why isn't that thing working?
And why aren't we off this feedtube in 10 months?
Cuz that scripture doesn't take10 months for you to manifest
it's with me.
It's something I'm not seeing.
And the Lord said, well, Thurmanyou've believed everything I've

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set up to now until that.
And you believe when he said, ifyou feed her, she'll die.
You took it to heart and yousuffered her for 10 months,
months on the feet too.
Wow.
That's what he heard in thebedroom.
And he went, duh, I didn'tbelieve one thing they said this
whole time.
But when they said that I tookit to heart and I'm waiting for

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it to be healed.
Duh.
He ran out and he said, honey, Igot good news.
She's like three and a half,four years old.
I have such good news.
See, I'm not telling you to everdo this.
He saw this.
He said he had jello and juiceand he sits it on the table.
He said, I have such good newstoday.

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You're going to get to eat.
Oh forgive grandpa.
He is been suffering you for 10months.
He's all excited.
Cause I believed what they saidand not what God said.
Oh my goodness.
It's a good day.
She said, but grandpa she, shesaid you can eat it, honey.
It's okay.
Just eat it.
She go here, I'll go get yousome more.

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She ate.
She was eating two, three weeks,two weeks went by.
It was two weeks.
She had to go back for herregular exam, quarterly,
whatever.
And the doctor said, oh mygoodness, whatever that flat is
covers your esophagus and yourWim pipe.
It's working.
Oh my goodness, it's working.
She can eat.
Now.

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She's restoring.
Get her off the feet tube.
She can eat.
Now you can feed her solidfoods.
It's totally working.
He said, doctor I've beenfeeding her solid food for two
weeks.
He said, what?
You're crazy.
You could have killed her.
He said the only thing thatmakes me crazy is I took to
heart your medical knowledge andstuffed the knowledge of God.

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And I suffered her for 10months.
I suffered her cuz I believedand took to heart.
What you said would happen inthe natural.
And I stopped the power of God.
You have to hear that in a, in aright ear where you're not, you
don't take your child to see ifit works and find faith.

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That's how kill somebody.
But he saw that he grew in aplace where he, but here's let
me tell you the whole reason.
I told you that story when hewas at church guest ministering.
So just imagine right here, he'sthe guest minister, a police
officer came in the side door.
This is an amazing story.
It made me cry and cry and cry.

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And here's what I said, God, youhave to work that in me.
That is so integral.
I want that in my life.
I want that kind of eternalvision and God what an honor to
meet a man that could live thatway.
And I see it so possible.
It would be Jesus.
And I've prayed about it.
Honestly.
Believe I'm in that place rightnow.

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Police officer came to the door,some in the pastor, he's up
preaching guest minister, pastorstops everything and calls him.
He comes over.
Yes, sir.
Is everything okay?
Are you so and so, yes I am.
Do you know?
So and so and so well that's mywife and daughter is everything.
Okay?
Well, there's been a very, veryterrible violent accident and

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your wife and your daughter aredeceased.
In fact, they, they weredismembered and, and it, it was
instant and they never knew whathappened.
And he said, what about mygranddaughter?
She's in Cook's medical center.
They don't think she'll livevery long.
He said, officer, thank you fordoing the difficult thing you

(01:32:27):
do, telling people, families,thank you for coming or bringing
me this snooze and doing whatyou needed to do.
He ran up on the platform.
This is amazing.
He said, worship team, could youcome forward, please?
He said, pianist, I need you tosomething about Jesus's blood
people.
I need you to stand to your feetwith me.

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He said he had no ability tocry.
None.
Now that's not to make us feelbad.
If we would cry it's to show youhow consumed you can be with an
eternal revelation that youcannot lose.
That doesn't mean he nevermissed his wife.
That doesn't mean he never criedon his daughter's birthday when

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it came around and she wasn'tthere to give a pre.
It doesn't mean that at somepoint he didn't shed a tear, but
at the time here's what he did.
This is what he didspontaneously.
He didn't go what?
Oh my God ha like we probablyall would've.
Yeah.
Right.
Here's what he did.
I want you to all stand to yourfeet congregation, please.
This officer just came and toldme the news that my wife and my

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daughter were just in a veryviolent car accident.
And they were both deceased.
And my granddaughter's now inCook's medical center.
What I would love to do, if youcould please that's worship
Jesus and honor him for hisprecious holy blood that has
received my wife and my daughterinto his presence for all
eternity.
Could we stand to our feet andhonor the king of Kings and the

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Lord of Lords.
I worship you for your blood.
And I thank you for preservingmy family forever because of
your sacrifice, not I thoughtshe loved me.
How could you take my wife?
How could you let this happen tome?
I love my wife and daughter.
What are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:34:07):
Oh

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
God, doesn't give us the gifts of life to covet them
at the cost of him.
Having a child is a gift.
Having a spouse is a gift.
It's a it's, it's ordained.
It's a gift.

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But believe in the blood andeternity is where you live from.
Doesn't mean we don't fight towin.
But when a tragedy happens,where is our soul and
understanding when you get aphone call that you never ever
thought you'd get or wanted toget, where is your revelation,

(01:34:53):
your faith in the foundationfrom which you live because that
determines how well you'll doand how you'll do period.
This is heavy here.
How quiet it is.
It's nothing wrong to cry, butit's deceived to be overcome
with the wisdom of, uh, worldand make it all about you at the

(01:35:20):
cost of who he is and startjudging him in the face of the
loss.

Speaker 7 (01:35:25):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Instead of upholding him because nothing's truly lost
only for a while, this briefmoment of light affliction,
that's what Paul called it.
We haven't seen anything.
Paul went through, we read aboutit in shutter.

(01:35:47):
He called it a brief moment oflight affliction compared to the
eternal weight of glory to berevealed when he comes,

Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
Wow, you feel that faith will take you there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
If I didn't have that experience with Thurman and that
testimony.
When I got, when I got the news,my wife was a life support with
severe brain damage.
I probably would've reacted.
I had no ability to react.
I just as peaceful as I amstanding here right now, because
I can't see that.

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I can only see this.
I know in my heart, we can'teven lose that doesn't mean I'm
not gonna fight and let her slipaway.
But I do know in my heart wecan't lose.

Speaker 7 (01:36:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Do you hear, do you hear what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So it's not about living dying.
It's not about, oh my God, shecan't die.
It's not about fighting.
I already know we can't lose,But I understand he paid a price
to redeem life and restore lifeand fulfill his will in every
way.
But death and the fear of deathis not my motivation, it's life

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and the promise of life.
Because through Christ, even inthe face of death, we can't lose
because of his blood.
Come on, it's good to talk aboutthis stuff.
It's rarely talked about thiskind of stuff, cuz these are the
wrong understandings and themotives that are in our life for
the lack of understanding wherethe wisdom of the world just
eats us to pieces and we havegood hearts and we wanna do

(01:37:26):
right and we're seeking God andthen tragedy hits.
And if we don't see clear, wewill mishandle and, and respond
wrongly in a detrimental way.
And you can lose years ofproductivity in your heart, your
mind and your life.
Yeah.
You could suffer yourself foryears.
You could, you could sit underPam and them.

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They're singing all theseincredible songs and you're just
trying to play the part, butyour heart's spinning and your
mind's real and because of yourwrong perspective and you're
just suffering through everyworship song, challenging God
with every word.
Well, if you were so amazing,where's my girl.
Well, if you were so amazing,where's my husband.

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Well, if you were so amazing,where's my child.
And that will go through yourmind over and over.
If you don't lay this thing outnow and let a foundation of
faith come, every trial willtouch you wrong.
Even just circumstances, just afurnace blowing and the same
week, your car going out, all ofa sudden, you know, there's
enough to just, if you don'thave a clear view, you can't

(01:38:32):
lose.
It's never even about deathguys.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Y'all okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Yeah.
Okay.
I felt like I got sidetracked,but I don't think I did.
I think that was good.

Speaker 10 (01:38:44):
It

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Was, this is very important cuz he's the author
and giver of life and he gaveJesus Christ and we're
privileged to grow in arevelation.
Some of us wonder where thepower of God is.
I think, I think that's a prettyeasy question to answer.
Actually.
He said don't fear and don'tworry.
It's the first two things wecall normal.
No wonder

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
We don't manifest the power that we could cuz we don't
have the clue yet who we arethrough him.
We, we just put it all on him.
Well, if he's amazing, whydoesn't he heal?
If he's

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
We're the body of Christ, he gave the earth to the
children of men.
He wants to reveal his wisdomthrough us.
His intent is that through thechurch, the manifold wisdom of
God will be revealed to thepowers and principalities,
Ephesians three,

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
You get it.
So we're not waiting

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
On God.
We're privileged with thekingdom.
He's

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
Waiting on us.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Very patiently, cuz he's love.
He's not tolerating us.
He loves us.
But I'll tell you what.
There's honestly a whole lot ofloss in the midst, in the
natural, we need to rejoice andno we can't lose.
That'll actually cause us togrow so much leaps and bounds.

(01:39:57):
Cuz if we're just still tryingto get through the natural loss
and that's still the pain of ourheart, how are we ever even
gonna get to him?
If we don't make this shift ofwho we are and why, and settle
in our heart that you can'tlose.
It's like on birthdays orholidays or anniversaries.
And that chair's empty.
And I don't know who needs tohear this, but this is what

(01:40:17):
happens.
Natural knowledge, the wisdom ofthe world that he made foolish
rules our life and, and, and fortwo weeks we're nervous and
upset because that day's comingand we already know they're not
there cuz we miss them every day.
It's real.
And now we know there's gonna befamily over and everybody's
gonna be laughing and shoutingand they're not gonna be there.
And they're the one that used tolaugh the most or cut this joke

(01:40:38):
and everybody loved and nowtheir chair's empty.
It's real.
And now we're just trying to eatand be okay.
And then nobody's okay.
Cuz we're just trying to beokay.
And we're even afraid to mentionBilly because we don't wanna
make everybody cry and we're alltrying to ignore it, but we
can't because it's prevalent andthat's when all that needs to
happen is one person thatbelieves lift up their voice.

(01:41:00):
Listen, guys, we're ready to sitdown and eat.
Listen, I want you guys to bestraight with me and let me talk
straight bill, these chairsempty and we all know why.
And we're all thinking about it.
It's not be afraid note.
No it's okay.
Aunt Miller.
It's mil aunt mill.
It's okay.
Just hear where I'm going.
Let's let's stop trying to actlike it didn't happen when we
can't.

(01:41:21):
That's right.
That's right.
And let's do something we allneed to do.
Let's all lift our heart and ourhands to the Lord.
Jesus Christ.
And thank him for his preciousblood that has Billy preserved
forever and ever, and ever.
And let's thank God for the dayhe was born that he was our son,
our brother, our, our nephew,our uncle.
And let's praise God and honorGod for the life of Billy.

(01:41:43):
Was it way too soon?
Absolutely.
Do we understand everythingabout it?
Not at all, but we know onething, God is good.
And he sent his son to preserveBilly's life forever.
God did not take Billy, but hesure did receive him.
So let's lift our hands andthank almighty God for Billy.
And then we'll sit down and eatwith joy because we know we

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haven't lost.
Even though we've lost some timewith Billy, we surely haven't
lost.
That's the wisdom of God.
Anything else sell you short ofgrace?
You all right?
Come on.
You can hear that's cracklyclear and somebody just by faith
needs to speak up or we're justtrying to live this thing out.

(01:42:26):
I don't know what we do.
we fail to live by faithis what we do.
Sometimes we try to stuffnatural reality and think that's
spiritual.
No, you have to face naturalreality through spiritual truth.
Okay.
Y'all good.
Yeah.
Okay.

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Whereas the scribe wheres forsin in the wisdom of God, the
world through wisdom did notknow God.
It pleased God through thefoolishness of the message
preached to save those whobelieve for the Jews request to
sign Greeks after wisdom.
But we preach Christ crucifiedto the Jews.
It stumbles them to the Greeksutter foolishness, right?
But to those who are called bothJews and Greeks Christ, the

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power of God and the wisdom ofGod, cuz the foolishness of God
is wiser than then.
That's funny.
The weakness of God.
I never even totally understoodthat the weakness of God is
stronger than men.
It's it's more of a para four, Ibelieve, but watch this now
verse 26.
This is cool men.
We're all in watch for you.

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See your calling brothering he'snot putting this down.
He said, this is amazing.
You see your calling did notmany are wise.
According to the flesh, there'snot many among you that are
mighty and noble men that arecalled.
He's just called every day.
Ordinary people that actuallyfeel like they have more issues
and more problems than God couldever even, you know, consider

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them because of all this stuff.
And yet we're all called andthere's no mighty and noble.
We don't come in mighty andnoble.
We didn't come in really higheducated and millionaires and
prestige and variety in thecommunity.
And there's not a lot of us thathave that testimony.
We're just

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Everyday people, but we're here in the spirit of
God's

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
In us, right?
But God chose the foolish thingsof the world to put, to shame.
The wise, God has chosen theweak things of the world to put,
to shame the things which aremighty.
And there's actually a war therebetween pride and humility that
humility always wins.
And there's something there wecould teach out.
I don't have time, the basethings of the world and the
things which are despised.
God has chosen the things whichare not to bring to nothing.

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That, which is, uh, that is,sounds like a 180 taking place
here.
It sounds like God is revertingand changing things back to
original, right?
That no flesh.
Why is this?
That no flesh should glory inhis presence, but of him.
This is the verse we turned to.
I read the whole chapter.
I thought it was important.
I didn't even know why I wasreading old chapter.

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I

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Am so glad I did.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
I don't know this isn't selfish, but

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
I don't know if you got anything out of that, but I
am so glad I read the chaptercuz I just

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Feel sharper

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
Than before.
Right now I feel a little bitmore tweaked.
I feel good about it.
Okay.
So watch this but of him.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
See, don't be in a hurry with your Bible, but of
him, you are in Christ.
Whose will, is it that you're inChrist?
Whose idea is it whose gracemade it possible?
It is.
So it has nothing to do withyou.
You didn't petition God, youdidn't sign a petition.
You didn't plea bargain with Godof him, of him.

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You didn't go and knock on hisdoor and ask for mercy and say,
please, please receive of him.
You were in his heart from thebeginning.
He'd Prees in Christ before thefoundation of the world to be
slaying.
Cuz you were there with him.
You were with him in thebeginning.

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
Oh of

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Who?
Of him?
You're in Christ.
So it's God's choice.
None of this is our bright idea.
That's why it's not presumptionwho became for us wisdom from
God.
Isn't amazing.
The whole chapter was about thewisdom of the world and about
another kind of wisdom.
And now he's wrapping it upsaying Christ.
Jesus is now your wisdom.

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He's the new source of wisdom.
The fresh source.
He's always been that, but he'sthe conversion of your soul.
The life of Jesus who Jesus is,Jesus is now your wisdom.
Any other way is not the way youget it.
Now watch and righteousness,sanctification and redemption

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that it is as it is written.
He who glory let him glory inthe Lord.
Can you make yourself righteous?
No.
Can you bring your life back toits original value on your own?
No.
Can you set yourself apart fromthe world and guilt and the past
and the things you were guiltyof and be truly sanctified apart

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from the forgiveness and mercyof God.
So when you receive thesethings, you honor him all the
more you esteem him all themore, because you can't even
love him unless he first lovesyou.
When you receive these things,it's all a form of receiving his
love.
When you don't feel righteousand then you don't live
righteous or acceptrighteousness, you're actually

(01:47:19):
failing to receive.
God's love.
No wonder you don't feel a lotof love for him cuz you're not
seeing the beauty of who he is.
When I know that I can't makemyself righteous.
When I know that I've failed andcan't make the things I've done
wrong.
Right?
Can you ever go back and changesomething you've done, but can
the gospel.
So who gets the glory?

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So he who glory's glory whoglory to who in the Lord.
So the gospel gives all glory toGod and brings great humility to
men.
But here's the deal.
When you read a verse like thatin your life, now we don't have
much time.
And, and, and that's probablygood.
That's just, God bless me, cuzI'll just, I'll just go step in
and just watch this cuz I'm anintimate guy.

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I'm an alone kind of guy.
And, and, and, and then I'm ateacher as well.
And I take what I live and whatI'm alone teaching principle.
But the Lord wants me to modelsomething this morning.
I thought I was gonna be doingit for about a half hour.
Really?
I did.
I thought, God, I don't, I'mgonna get lost.
I was a little nervous in asense, but I knew it was God.

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Cause I know where that can go.
And I thought, well, it'll justbe, I guess you want a visual
for people and they want to, youknow, but here's what I want you
to see.
Ron said something way long agowhen I try to read and pray, my
mind spins, et cetera.
Don't just try to read and pray.
If that's happening to you apartfrom the word.
Once you learn this, once youlearn this today, you can do

(01:48:45):
this anywhere time with anysection of scripture, you can
open up a saw and get into aboutthree hours of incredible
prayer.
Just because the Psalm isfocusing you and inspiring you
and making a draw on truth inyour spirit.
And as you read who God is inthe Psalm and read who we are
and, and all, and all of asudden, everything is saying and

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meaning you begin to back to himand you can read a Psalm like
Psalm 91 and just come outtayour bedroom.
So assured that he's God.
So assured that you're safe.
So assured that there's no suchthing as fear.
So assured that you don't haveto watch your back cuz he does
so assured do you know what I'msaying?
Yes.
Because of meditating on theword, not just reading your

(01:49:29):
Bible for knowledge, but readingyour Bible to know him and know
who you are in him.
Here's what that looks like.
So I'll say I'm in my bedroomand I'm reading, but of him, you
are in Christ who became wisdomfrom God.
For me, righteousness,sanctification, redemption.

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That is as it is written, he whoglory letting glory in the Lord.
I'm gonna show you what I dowhen I'm all alone.
What it means to me to meditatein the scripture.
Cause I feel like God actuallyfor a few weeks has been talking
to me about teaching this to thebody.
It's something I don't teach tothe body.
And I'm feeling like I'msupposed to.
So you guys are, are gettingthis first.

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Cause people say all the time,how, but how's that become so
real to you, but how do you see?
Like I can tell you believe it.
It's not just because I read myBible.
You have to believe.
And that means something thatmeans expressing that means
letting it come outta yourheart, getting an agreement,
settling that if it's his idea,if it's his wisdom, if it's him

(01:50:38):
that initiated this, it's gottabe right.
Do you get what I'm saying?
So here's what I do.
As I enter in to do this, I'mgonna just forget you're here
and that's possible for a momentcuz there's grace.
That'll let me do that.
Where not just puppeting andgiving you example, I'm actually
gonna, this is gonna come outtamy heart to God and, and earn
much time.

(01:50:59):
So if you need to get up andslip out, if it rolls past 12,
you can, if you have to go.
And actually when I'm finished,when this wraps up, you know how
I give myself to everybody and Iask questions today, I have to
just kind of roll outta here.
So, and I gotta take John withme.
So you're with me when I'm readyto roll.
What I'm saying is I'm not gonnatake a whole lot of time at the
end just to talk about stuff andquestions I normally do.

(01:51:20):
I've been leaving 1, 1 30, youknow, I'm, I'm here a long time
after school, but today I reallyneed to get home.
And catch up on some things Igotta snowball of phone calls
and things, and I'm trying towork this new schedule with the
school and just cuz all morningwhen I'm home and in town, I
usually make phone calls and I'mhere.
And when I go home, I usuallyhave six or eight more on top of

(01:51:40):
the ones that I'm not making.
And I'm not sure how that'slooking so well.
I know how it's looking.
I'm not sure how that's going tolook

Speaker 10 (01:51:47):
I

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Already know how it's looking, but I'm gonna cut outta
here as soon as we can.
Okay.
So watch this.
I'm in my bedroom that no fleshglory in his presence, but of
him.
God, he is.
So your idea is so your heart tosave me.

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I wasn't even thinking of you.
I didn't even know I was lost.
I didn't even understand any ofthis.
You knew all the time.
It's your idea.
You sent Christ for me.
Why was at a sinner?
It's your idea that I'm saved.
It's your will that I'm bornagain.
It's your will that your spiritlives inside of me.

(01:52:34):
Thank you for this amazing love.
Thank you.
Why wouldn't I won almighty Godon the inside of me, my life,
apart from you was nothing.
My heart was wretched.
I was frustrated.
I was hurting everybody.
I said I loved because I didn'tunderstand.
Thank you for helping me.

(01:52:56):
See, thank you for saving methrough your son.
You've become wisdom for me.
Jesus, your life, the way youhandle things, the way you've
treated men, the way youcontinue to just heal no matter
what, the way you didn't changeyour tune, you never let men
determine who you were becausewho you are determines who men

(01:53:16):
are.
God, I thank you.
That you're the one that changesmy life.
My eyes are on you.
Jesus.
Holy spirit.
I thank you that you are the onethat reveals Jesus to me.
You reveal the message of hislife.
You make it.
My reality.
You wouldn't be in my life.
If you didn't want to transformme into Christ, you didn't,
wouldn't be in my life.

(01:53:37):
If you didn't want me to followhim profusely, you're in me.
And you're the hope of the gloryof God.
I surrendered to you and I yieldto you.
And I reveal that I don't wantmy own wisdom.
I want your wisdom.
Let the life of Jesus.
Be clear to me.
Let me see every aspect of itthat you desire.
I wanna see the heart of God andthe motive of God and understand

(01:53:58):
love through Jesus' life.
Because any other way, I'mthinking isn't the way and God
here I am.
And I surrender myself to you.
And I just give myself to youand I yield myself to you.
And I just thank you.
I'm your son.
And I honor you.
I have never seen such wisdom.
I have never known such love.

(01:54:18):
There is no one that could evertouch my heart.
Like you touched me.
I'm here righteous right now.
You're not just wise and it'snot just wisdom I've been made,
right?
I'm right with you.
You'll never see me for sin.
You'll never see me for fault.
You'll never see me for failure.
You'll only see me for what I'mcalled to and what you've
predestined me to what you mademe to be from the beginning.

(01:54:42):
God, I'm yours in your mind.
I'm home.
Thanks for receiving me.
I am so thankful, Lord God, forthe redemption of this gospel, I
am in the world, but I am so notof it.
You have separated me out.
I am not afraid.
Never again will my heart fear.
You're my helper.
You're the one that loves me.

(01:55:02):
You're faithful.
There's no turning.
There's no shadow in you.
I know who you are.
You don't keep me guessing youdon't make me wandering.
I know who you are.
The truth about you isestablished in my heart and fear
has been driven out.
Worry is a thing of the past.
I've been made brand new.
Holy spirit.

(01:55:23):
I thank you for the revelation.
I thank you for making thesethings real.
To me.
I am redeemed it's as if I'venever touched sin it's as if I
never lived one day of naturallife, I am in the realm of the
spirit.
I'm seated with you in heavenlyplaces.
You are surely my king.
I am in the world.
I'm not not of the world.

(01:55:44):
I'm not of selfishness andoffense.
I'm not of self-centered desire.
You are making me a man of love.
I say yes to you.
I am truly a man of God by yourgrace, by your good pleasure.
You are working an amazing thingin me.
I like what you're doing.
I like who I am.
I like who I am in.

(01:56:04):
You keep moving in me.
Keep forming me, emoting me.
And when I leave this room todayand I look through this eye, I
thank you.
It's yours.
I thank you.
I see with the vision of God.
Oh, I appreciate the 2010 visionthat I have.
But more than that, God, I thankyou for the vision of God.

(01:56:28):
I just thank you right now forloving me.
And I just thank you.
I am born again.
I'll never die.
I'll never be alone.
I'll never be afraid.
You have come and you never,ever, ever will go away.

(01:56:50):
That's what meditating on thescripture looks like you get it.
That's just an example.
You read one verse.
Your mind, Ron, if you startdoing this, no way will be
distracted.
No way.

(01:57:14):
Wow.
Okay.
I'm not gonna do, I was gonnagive you one more example in
Psalms, but I'm not.
I'm gonna leave you with that.
That's meditating in thescripture.
Watch this.
It's one thing to read yourBible and see what it says.
It's another thing by faith toturn your heart up and out of
your heart with your mouth, makeconfession under salvation and

(01:57:34):
say yes to every yes of God.
Holy spirit meets you there.
You have to understand that I'msafe 15 years.
Don't you think?
Well, yo, okay.
So I got a long way to go.
I gotta be.
I gotta, I've been doing thatfrom the beginning.
I don't even have to open myBible to do that anymore.

(01:57:55):
I can be driving in my truck anda scripture will come.
God's speaking to me.
A SSUR will come and I'll juststart meditating on it and
declaring what it means andthanking God.
It's true.
Do you see, I'm not asking forpeace.
I'm thanking him.
I have.
I'm asking.
I'm not asking him to not makeme not afraid.
I'm thanking him in bold enoughto say cuz the righteous are

(01:58:16):
bold is a lie.
It's not a false confession.
It's not a hope so thing.
I thank you that never again.
Will I be subdued by fear?
I thank you that never again.
Will I just do I cause truth hascome and just made me afraid.
I'm not waiting for the day.
I don't feel afraid that day hascome.
And fear is driven outta my lifeby the gospel cuz wisdom has

(01:58:38):
changed.
And the only reason I was afraidis cuz of the wisdom I possessed
wisdom has changed.

Speaker 3 (01:58:45):
do you get it ?
You

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Don't have to leave that place and feel like you're
different.
Cause I can tell you I've neverleft that place.
Aware of a change.
I have never walked out of aplace except for the presence of
God that I'll feel the peace ofGod or who father, but I've
never walked out like knowingI'm different.

(01:59:12):
I just believe I am.
Cuz I believe that.
And when I get the opportunityin life to manifest whether I'm
different or not,

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
I'm different.
Do you get it?
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
When I first got saved, I didn't even know I was
changing and people all aroundmy life were saying, man, what's
going on with you, man.
What's up with you?
And I didn't even really knowwhat they were talking about
except I was in love.
I knew I had this secret thinggoing

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
On

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
This new lover in my

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
Life,

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Kimmy.
There's another lover.
She actually knew it and wasfreaked out, mad at it for a
while.
Cuz she was hurt.
I never left my bedroom knowingI was changing like a child.
I was believing, this is alltrue.
And I was saying yay.
And it was restoring me back toa place of simple innocence

(02:00:11):
where everything around me waslowered and everything that was
going on in me

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
Was raised.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
And then you live by faith and not by sight, nothing
outside my door changed nothingat work changed, nothing changed
on the way.
There wasn't even a great changein the city I live in or even
the relationships I had.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
There

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
Was a change in my eye.
What I used to call wisdomwasn't wisdom anymore.
What I found in him came mywisdom.
You meditate that out.
You enter in right there.
That track I was on.
I just did that by grace andpulled out by grace.
I could have been on that track.
Who knows?

(02:01:02):
Where does that end?
Where does that even lead you?

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
Oh, is that it?

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
So go on a journey.
Start meditating.
Don't just read your Bible tofeel Christian and feel like
you're doing what you shouldmeditate on the word don't be in
a hurry, read one or two thingsthat are starting to speak to
you and camp there too.
It becomes yours.
He had me in Philippians chaptertwo for 13 weeks and told me

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don't read anywhere else.
Years and years ago, Philippianstwo for 13 weeks.
Why he was saying, I don't wantyou to know that I want you to
become that.
And when you become that, I'lllet you read somewhere else so
that everything you read will beseen through that.

(02:01:56):
And then you won't be a viableegg head.
You'll be a revelation ofChrist.
Did you get

Speaker 12 (02:02:04):
It.
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