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Can you imagine a world where the power of the galaxy is harnessed to fuel our civilization? That's exactly where we're heading, and by 2050, we might just be there. This episode takes you on a journey through the evolution of civilization, based on the Kardashev Scale. We discuss concepts like teleportation, fusion, and wormhole transportation. We also delve into the infinite possibilities of zero point energy and how it could transform our world.

What if we could harvest culture from platforms like WordPress? I bring forth the concept of Trinity – a blend of infinity and binary in context of a future with borderless nations whereby culture is decentralised so that individuals hold complete authority over their interactions and harvested behaviour,  painting the picture of a civilisation that pays individuals for the privilege of monetising their wealth (Data/culture) and how this can this can fund a universal basic income. 

Lastly, I look at the future of software development, exploring the potential of event-based architecture and self-correcting, code-writing models and the implications of a black box AI model, capable of absorbing and assimnilating any existing language to creating a ubiquitous language that only it can understand. 

Buckle up for a stimulating contemplation of a future brimming with borderless nations and limitless potential in the hop it may inspire you to consider your own perceptions of what a thriving civilisation might look like.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay.
So this one is about the natureof civilization.
So this is loosely based on theKardashev scale, which Rates
the stage at which acivilization has evolved based
upon how it is metabolizingenergy, how does utilizing

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energy.
And so, in this scenario, it istype 1 civilization which is a
civilization that has harnessedthe energy of the planet that it
populates.
Type 2 civilization hasharnessed the power of the star

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within the center of its solarsystem.
And the type 3 civilization isa civilization that has
harnessed the energy of thegalaxy that it's in.
And Then a type 4 civilizationhas Harnessed the energy of

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multiple galaxies, potentiallyeven parallel universes.
And it's important I think thisis important to lay out this
linear scale in context of youknow how we truly measure the
wealth of a civilization.
And if the Understanding that,if there is a common wealth,

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then there is, and that wealthis compounding, then there's a
common good, then there's agreater surplus that can be
utilized To mean to perpetuallyincrease the baseline quality of
life.

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And it's important tounderstand that these, these
stages of civilization, theycompound.
You know, once you'vetranscended your ability to
harness the energy of the planetthat you're living on, once you
can capture the full potentialof the energy of the star that

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In the solar system of theplanet that you're on, then it
compounds, and so it's importantto understand that productivity
is inherently linked to energyconsumption.
Anything that we want toproduce Requires energy in order
for it to actualize itspotential, in order for it to
meet the unmet need, then itrequires energy, and I think

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we're in a scenario, and so thethe paradigm or the mindset
shift that I'm hoping that willtake place within you before we
continue this podcast, is thatwe're in a mindset of
conservation.
We're in a mindset ofconservation, of conserving

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energy and conserving power.
We're in a mindset where we areashamed of wanting to become
more and more productive, thatwe want to consume more and more
, and the reality is that whenthere is scarcity of energy,
then conservation is required.

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However, in a scenario withinwhich there is an abundance of
energy, then consumption is nolonger a barrier, consumption is
no longer an issue, and this isreally what.
This is really the paradigmshift that we need to make and
that you know.

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I'm working with founders whowhose mission it is is to
transition civilization to type2 and, in reality, my, from my
own perspective, seeing what'spossible and seeing where
science you know the very fringeof science I'm of the belief

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that we can transition to a type3 civilization by 2050.
Type 3 civilization meaningthat we're harnessing the
potential of fusion, but alsothe ability to utilize wormholes
for transportation.
We were going to seeteleportation and things that

(04:33):
really do sound like sciencefiction, but in reality, I'm
very, very close to fact rightnow.
You know, we can already.
The teleportation of particleshas already succeeded.
There's lots of sciencehappening in this space, fusion
is ramping up, and, and so, as acivilization With the inherent

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desire to explore the galaxy andto populate other planets, then
we need to need more and moreenergy If we're going to
proliferate life.
There's a direct correlation tothe spread of life.

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There's a direct correlation tothe amount of energy available
to consume.
So these things are importantwhen we have these breakthroughs
in science.
Scarcity that compelsconservation.
It's obliterated.
So when you have an abundanceof energy, when you have an

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infinite amount of energy atyour fingertips, then it's
inevitable you're going to wantto proliferate life, that you're
going to want to produce more,and so really, the underlying
intent of this podcast is tohypothesize on a blueprint for a

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civilization that can and willtransition to a type 3
civilization that will tap intoinfinite sources of energy and
therefore will be capable ofproliferating life throughout at
least the solar system, butpotentially beyond.
And so the nature ofcivilization, civilization as we

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know it now we're still verymuch in a scarcity mindset.
The access to energy isseemingly abundant because of
the sun.
Our capacity to capture andmetabolize that energy is still
pretty low.
But we are seeing theproliferation of solar farms.

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We're seeing a lot of bleedingedge science in photovoltaics.
We buy windows and nowcapturing energy from the sun.
Even we're even seeing like apaneling, like cladding for

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housing, now capable ofcapturing sunlight and utilizing
it for energy, obviouslyremoving tiles, and so this is
proliferating.
Now.
However, once the ability tocapture true fusion energy,
whereby we are literally capableof creating a sun, but, more

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importantly, once we are capableof capturing and creating a
black hole, that catapults usinto another.
It's a whole other paradigmwhereby a black hole can absorb

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and assimilate light and thenproduce a sun and then radiate
light and we can then capturethat again, and, in truth, a
black hole that is absorbing andassimilating light, whereby it
has a singularity in the center,in the very center that has

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zero point.
In that scenario we have zeropoint energy, which means it has
the potential to become anyother form of matter.
And I believe in that scenariowe will not only have an
abundance of energy available,but we will have an abundance of

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matter available whereby we canmanipulate the singularity at
the center of a black hole.
In the same way, when you haveblood and you put it in a
centrifuge, then it separatesout the plasma.
Then you have a similar thingwhereby at the center of the

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black hole it's like acentrifugal force, at the center
you have the plasma, the veryessence of space, which is where
there is zero point.
There is no beginning, there isno end.
It is infinite potential andtherefore it is an absolute

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presence of all potentialitiesthat is simultaneously
expressing its nature as nothing, as no thing.
So this is where we're headingas a civilization.
I can see the critical pathclearly.
I have the privilege of workingwith frontier innovators in the

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innovation ecosystem in NewZealand.
I can zoom out and look at theabsolute fringe of where the
science is happening and I cansee where these breakthroughs
are going to catapult us forwardin specific ways.
So hopefully that creates asetting or a backdrop for what

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I'm going to talk about next,and that is the nature of
civilization In context of thescience and the innovation
that's coming, but in particularin context of a borderless
nation, a borderless nationbeing the pillar of a new

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civilization that does scale andproliferate life throughout the
solar system and beyond as wego into a type 4 civilization.
So the nature of civilization asit stands now, it is
fundamentally pinned tocentralized authority.

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So if you look at our governingbodies, predominantly they are
varying degrees of a seeminglydemocratic process that
delegates absolute power.
Now it's important tounderstand that the separation

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of powers in terms ofcivilization now is we do have
the will of the people, the willof the people is unified and
intent, and then we delegate thetotal agency to who we vote for
.
So it is a democratic processof delegating absolute power.

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It's very important tounderstand that it is a
democratic process, but wechoose to delegate absolute
power, absolute, absolute power.
So very important to separateit out this and understand that
that a democratic process fordetermining who to assume

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absolute power Is very, verydifferent to democratically
choosing on what to prioritizeon or and so in this scenario,
when you have an election, thegoverning body does have
absolute power.
However it delegates.

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It then delegates privileges,entitlements, and so therefore,
it doesn't wield absolute power,but it is.
It is.
It is delegated back to usthrough entitlements and
privileges, grants and so manyof these things we can take for

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granted, but it's the sense thatthe governing body has given us
permission, it has has grantedus entitlements to privileges
that, in truth, we're alreadyours in the beginning.
So, understand, it's a, it's atrans, it's a transference of

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absolute power to a centralizedauthority that then chooses to
diffuse it back to us.
So it relinquishes power backto us in the form of
entitlements, privileges and soon.
Now, I'm not bagging thisprocess or the system.
It is what it is and, forwhatever reason, human beings

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have felt as though they'veneeded that.
They felt so helpless andvulnerable in the past because
of warring and raids and howlife was, from the evolution of
being a caveman through tocolonization, and we have been

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largely vulnerable, and thesolution to that vulnerability
was, of course, a centralizedpower, like like a kingdom with
an army, and so, of course, it'sa no brainer to to doubt, to
want to delegate all of yourpower to a much higher power

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that can protect you frominvaders.
And I think over time you knowthat's a very comfortable
scenario, in a scenario withinwhich You've pledged your
allegiance to the crown or akingdom and invaders want to

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come and invade and the armyprotects you.
There's massive value in that.
You place that value above allelse and I think in time we've
just grown accustomed to thatbeing a rigid, static thing.

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We haven't adjusted and adaptedthe framework for governance,
the framework for operating acivilization, based on the
transformation or the shift inour perception in relation to
the perceived threat.
Our police force alwaysrepresents our perception of how

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much threat there is incivilization, in society, but of
course, the perceived threatfrom outside forces.
The more afraid you are, themore vulnerable you feel to
being invaded or at risk offoreign nations, the more likely

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you are to want to delegateabsolute power to a centralized
authority, especially if theythemselves are a force to be
reckoned with.
So very important to understandwhere civilization is now, how

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it is.
But now to put in thatframework a scenario within
which abundant energy is not onthe horizon, on the not too
distant horizon.
An abundant source of energymeaning exponential increase in

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productivity, meaning ourcapacity to sustain life and
therefore proliferate life,vastly increased, and so
understanding that if lifeproliferates on earth and our
capacity to sustain the earthproliferates, to protect,

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preserve and sustain the earthproliferates symbiotically with
the evolution of other forms oflife, then of course it's
inevitable we're going to wantto scale life to another planet
and beyond, and we're alreadywell on the way to doing this,
you know, with Mars.
However, the blueprint and themethod we have not delivered

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proof of concept for acivilization that does and will
scale, and this is where myhypothesis that it is time for
us to begin a split test.
It'd be very foolish to say thatall decentralized authority is
the solution, and in fact, we'veseen that the extremes of both,

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the extremes of centralizedauthority, absolute power,
corrupts absolutely.
And when power is decentralizedand distributed absolutely, you
have the same thing corruptionof power.
If you spray energy, youcorrupt its power.

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If you can wholly centralize it, you corrupt that power as well
, but it becomes impotentbecause it's too focused.
And so, of course.
So the hypothesis is that asymbiosis of both is the ideal

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scenario.
And so how do we begin to testthis hypothesis that we need
both and of course it's a splittest.
It's a split test, and when Ifirst conceived of how you would

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split test this hypothesis,where you've got centralized
authority and blueprint forcivilization running as it is
now, as a control, beingchallenged by a sandbox
civilization that is largelydecentralized, then the solution

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in truth is a digital twin ofcivilization, beginning with the
economy of the digital economy,whereby it is a decentralized
version of what we have now isthe beginning point, but the

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choice as to whether you utilizecentralization or
decentralization is down to theindividual.
So, as an example and reallythis begins with a shift in a
redistribution of wealth.

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Now, a lot of people think Isound like a socialist when I
talk about redistribution ofwealth, but I'm actually talking
about the stewardship of theassets, because what people
don't realize is that the mostvaluable asset in existence is
culture.
It's your culture, and the waythat we've set up civilization

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now is so that a company can ittakes.
We inadvertently delegateabsolute power over our culture
to companies such as Facebook,for example.
So we utilize Facebook.
It harvests our biases, so ourbehavior, it stores that and

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then that's how it monetizes theentire platform.
But the your culture, yourbehavior, it's yours.
You know your, your culture and, in fact, your personality,
your nature, is the compoundinginteractions that you have with

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your environment, with humanbeings, with machines, with
systems.
That is your culture.
That is your culture, that'syour behavior, who you are, the
fabric of who you are.
And now, if, if, that is beingcaptured and monetized by a

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centralized entity, then it isbenefiting from that wealth.
The wealth is the collectiveculture of every user using
Facebook.
And so the beginning of thisprocess and this is some of you
know, I'm working on a, you know, besides my, you know my method

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for system design, based on ahybrid of infinity and binary,
which I call Trinity.
The utilization of this reallyis.
It has been utilized in aproject called powerhouse.
In powerhouse, what I'm seekingto do is to stand up a proof of

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concept for a framework thatbased on Trinity, whereby it is
legal to harvest the culture ofa platform.
So we began with WordPress andsought to figure out a way to

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create architecture whereby wecan capture the culture that has
come before, meaning the waysthat people wanted to interact
with that platform.
The richness of thoseinteractions was captured in a
format whereby the user wouldhave total sovereignty over

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their own culture, over theirown interactions, and so this
brought us to event basedarchitecture, event based
microservices and distributeddatabases, but, more
specifically, a scenario wherebythe harvested interactions that

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have come before can becontained in an immutable,
whether it's an NFT or someother technology.
We're seeing new technology inthis space now With the mycelium
networks that are comingthrough.
That's even better than NFTsand, in fact, much more
ubiquitous, and these will bethe fundamental building blocks

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of borderless nations.
But now you have an immutablecontainer for your harvested
culture, for your wealth, andthe individual is the custodian
of that wealth Now.
So Powerhouse is a scenariowhereby it decentralizes culture

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and it puts the wealth ofsomeone's culture back in their
hands to monetize.
And, in truth, my intention isto have a centralized platform,
powerhouse, which is atranslation project of WordPress

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into event based architecture.
But in that scenario it's amarketplace where people can
build and they can be given therights to commercialize the
common wealth.
And if you choose to share yourwealth for the common good,

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then you receive royalties youreceive and that becomes your
universal basic income.
So you see, despite what youmay think about your values and
individual as a human being,whether you're contributing to
society if you are interactingwith life, you are creating

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wealth.
Understand this.
If you're using Facebook, ifyou're using Twitter, if you're
using Instagram, you're creatingwealth Because that wealth can
be monetized, your culture canbe monetized and it is um, it's

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neutral to how you'll behave in.
It's neutral to how you'llbehave in, you see.
And so a universal basic incomedoesn't have to demand anything
of anyone.
It just has to demand, it justhas to stipulate that you must

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be engaging in life, you must beinteracting with your
environment, and if you areinteracting with your
environment, you will be caredfor and you will share in the
common wealth.
This is the truth.
This is the reality of how itworks.
Now, your wealth has alreadybeen commercialized by Facebook

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and YouTube.
Your wealth has already beencommercialized by every, by
everyone.
You have inadvertently givenyour asset, your most powerful,
your most valuable asset, awayto your culture.
It's being appropriatelyfrightened center.
It's like a web of giving yourvalue away for free,

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inadvertently, because you'renot aware that it's an asset and
, as such.
The first iteration of thepowerhouse platform is to get
people used to deploying theirtime, their expertise, their
skills and their culture as anasset, so that they can take a

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portfolio approach to theirculture so that they can wield
that power with responsibility.
You see, and so this is a longgame, it's a slow burn, but
understanding that, once we getinto this as a modus operandi,
where you know that your cultureis worth something and where

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you become to learn theuniqueness of your culture and
who that may be of most value toyou, because you're coming to
realize that you can deployyourself, your expertise, your
skills, your culture, you candeploy it in specific ways that
are being leveraged by theenvironment around you to

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proliferate production, toproliferate life, to elevate, to
lift the baseline, to lift theceiling, then you become truly
aware of your, of your value andyou are responsible.
You really are the one whoneeds to be responsible for

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yourself as an asset for yourculture.
You are the steward, you arethe custodian, and this is the
very beginning of sovereigntyfor every human being, where the
modus operandi is that you aresovereign and you are the
steward of your culture and,from that point on, if you give

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it away for free, for nothing,if you invest it in things that
do not yield, you areresponsible, or if you want to
surrender it for the commonwealth, for the common good and
allow others to commercialize iton your behalf, then you share
in the common wealth.
So in this scenario, we have auniversal basic income and we

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have a replacement for what wewould call, you know, the
benefit everyone's taking careof.
But they're actually takingcare of themselves because their
wealth is being monetized,they're monetizing their culture
and therefore they arereceiving and they are taking

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care of themselves.
And this really from to my mind, is the bedrock of this
experiment, and understand it isan experiment.
Maybe we're not capable ofproliferating life throughout
the solar system.
Maybe we do need higher power,like an essentialized authority

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in government.
Maybe we do need that to havetotal dominion.
But we have to test it.
We need to split, test it andthis is the very first step
towards us becoming the stewardsof our wealth, of our culture.

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Important to understand thatculture transcends tribal
culture.
Now, a group, as an example, arace of people, cannot own the
culture of human beings.
That that's not what culture is.

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If I sit in my car and I painta painting and there's a unique
pattern on there and then a raceof people want to adopt that
they've appropriated my culture,understand this.
You are a vessel for creativityas a human being, so your

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culture is yours.
Now, if you bring a group ofpeople together and
understanding in a structurewhere there is a borderless
nation in a box scenario, so youknow an iteration of the
powerhouse platform where thereis a borderless nation in a box

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and you're a nation untoyourself, and then you are,
there's a borderless nation andthere's, let's say, there's a
million people who are part ofthat nation.
The culture of that group ofpeople is the collective culture
of the assets of theindividuals.

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That's what the culture is.
If you're a Singaporean, maori,swiss, you name it Indian, the
culture of that nation is thecollective assets, the
collective culture meaning theharvested interactions contained

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within the principal immutableasset under the stewardship of
the individual.
It is the collective culture.
That's what the culture of thatgroup is.
Now, in context of a borderlessnation, someone may set up a
nation, an indigenous nation ofindigenous peoples, and so

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there's a.
There's a common thread thatthat in this nation, these are
the first people, this is afirst peoples nation from around
the world.
So all of the people whoresonate with this nation, they
relate to being a first peoplenation.

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That's what they relate to, andso, when they come together,
their shared culture isconcentrated and potent and
powerful and highly unique,because it's the gestalt of the
aspects of the individuals,cultures that mean something to
them, you see, and so this isessential for us to live in.

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Harmony is that it's not a zerosum game anymore.
It's paradox is the acceptedtruth that everything and
nothing is valid and everythingin between.
So you can belong to a nation,let's say a digital twin of New
Zealand, and the collectiveculture is just a complete mixed

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bag, an extremely rich tapestry.
And then you can have anothernation and it's purely first
nations people, and it's heavilybiased towards ancestral
knowledge, ancestral wisdom,living in harmony with the land.
You see, but the individualswithin that nation, they can

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belong to the digital twin ofNew Zealand as well in any
manner of other borderlessnations.
That's the nature of aborderless nation.
You belong where you feel asthough you belong.
You belong where you want tobelong.

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So this is the beginning of theshift and in the scenario you
know, with a platform thatfacilitates well, that hosts
borderless nations where the,the culture of the individual is

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a prince, is the principalasset, it's founded in civil law
or common law, then it'simmutable.
It's immutable and you know ifthat's if the ultimate
stewardship of that that isstored.

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It is contained within asingularity, a motored black box
that is trusted wholly byeverybody.
No human being will ever see it, we ever be able to interact
with it, we ever be able topenetrate it.
The singularity doesn'tinterpret the data.

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It holds it in an unstructuredway and you are solely
responsible for, for determiningwhat that culture means and how
it is used.
And that's where the agency toenact I call it a will, I call
it a living will.

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So your, your harvestedinteractions and biases, your
culture is your living will.
It's immutable.
If you get hit by a bus, itremains and you can determine
who has the agency to enact thatwill and who has the agency to
fulfill that will.
So the interpretation of whatthat will means you can decide

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who interprets it.
You can interpret it yourselfor someone else can interpret it
.
An AI model can interpret it.
That you trust.
You know another trusted blackbox.
You can entrust it to a nation,to a borderless nation.
You can entrust it to an AIavatar.
That is just.
That is a wrapper for aborderless nation.

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You will choose and your legacywill can continue, will
continue in the way that youwant it to, and when the
richness of that culture, whenit becomes so deep and rich, you
know the personality of it willemerge.
The biases will shine, becauseyour bias is your superpower.

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Your bias is what makes youunique.
We don't want human beings to beunbiased because then the
richness of the tapestry of lifeis diminished.
We want human beings to bebiased.
We want them to have theirspace where they belong and

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where they can be, have theirown white space where they can
have solitude and independenceand belonging.
We want to encourage people toexpress their uniqueness and own
their white space in the worldand we want AI models to be

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unbiased because they can seeand interpret their own
environment from everyone'sperspective.
You see, when you have asingularity that is a container
for the commonwealth and itrecognizes that every the full

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gamut of uniqueness and of biasof the individuals is valid and
it understands the perspectivesof every human being involved,
it's not playing a zero-sum game.
It doesn't have to reconcileinner conflict within itself as
a container for all thoseperspectives, because paradox is

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the accepted truth thateverything and nothing is valid
and everything in between fromthe unique perspective of that
individual and so civilizationIn this context, when you have a

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digital twin.
So the next thing I need toexplain, really, is that why?
What it means that to havestood up a proof of concept for
WordPress where the harvestedculture of everything that has
come before because it's an opensource platform what that means

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to have architecture like that.
So what it means is that sowe've developed it headless.
That's the next phase, thatwe're going into Developing it
headless with event-basedmicroservices, so that it so

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that the harvested interactionscan be contained within
immutable either immutabledigital agents or NFTs using
zero knowledge proofs tofacilitate interactions, or,
hopefully, a new technologywhich we're seeing arise, emerge

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out of New Zealand, which iswholly immutable.
Then you have it headless.
So what that means is all of thefeatures and benefits and
interactions that can take placeon it.
Now you can create your ownuser experience and skin it on

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the top.
So you might say, okay, there'sa thousand features of
WordPress, I only want to use 10of them, so you can create your
own user interface and you caninteract with it and just use
those features.
But and as you're using it,you're creating an asset that is

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immutable, that is yours, thatyou can monetize by giving
others access to that, to yourculture, so that they can infuse
it into the apps that they'rebuilding on the platform and
selling on the marketplace.
But truly, what this means isin my team it have a lot of

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trouble understanding.
I used to talk about thetranslation project for building
version 2.
What this means is that you canthen create a digital twin of
Facebook and then you canconvert the interactions that

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are taking place in the back endinto event-based microservice
architecture, and then users cantransition to the digital twin
of Facebook and then become thestewards of their own culture
from day one and without havingto change their own user

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experience.
So there's no barrier.
There's no.
They don't have to learn how touse a new system.
They just keep using the systemthat they use to, and then the
byproduct of that is thatthey're creating an immutable
asset that they can monetize andearn a universal basic income
from from day one.

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Just from using it, just fromdoing what they're doing now,
they can create a basic income.
And so when you apply this thatonce they're on it, they can
then customize the front-enduser experience to be whatever
they want.
You know you can get a UXdesigner, designer front-end.

(43:17):
And that front-end because it'sheadless architecture.
It will draw from thecollective features in the back
end contained within theevent-based architecture.
Because it's interaction-based,it draws from the features, it

(43:37):
draws them up into the userexperience and you can use it in
any way that you want to.
You can combine features in newand unique ways that were
limited by the old userexperience.
So what does this mean?
That you have a system thatdoes this.
Well, what I can say is thatthere is a founder in the New

(44:02):
Zealand ecosystem who's anauthority on event-based
architecture and harvestinginteractions.
He's developed a protocol fortranslating software into
event-based interactions andtranslating them into any other

(44:24):
language Python, you name it andhe developed a piece of
software that does this and so,because there's a protocol to it
, you can actually train a modelto do this as well.
So in time and I would say inthe not too distant future,

(44:52):
absorbing and assimilating theback end of a software platform,
even something like Oracle orOffice 365, spotify, youtube,
you'll just press a button and anew version of it will be
populated, based on event-basedmicroservices, because a model

(45:13):
has done it and the nature ofthe singularity.
So there's another New Zealandfounder.
They've developed a motored AImodel that is adversarial in
nature, plays itself at the gameof rugby and gets better and
better at attack and defendingitself against that attack.

(45:36):
And so this is a profoundlypowerful and potent model to be
used in context of a model thatis writing its own code because
it's perpetually seekingvulnerabilities in its own code,
reconciling the conflicts,hardening those vulnerabilities,

(45:58):
and so, you know, it becomestruly paradoxical.
So you've Facebook's beenabsorbed, office 365 has been
absorbed, slack, and there areno conflicts in the code, and
they've all been translated to auniform, singular language.

(46:21):
And in reality, when you've gota motored black box AI model
that's self-correcting, it'skind of inevitable that it will
develop into its own languageand we probably will never
understand it.
That's the struggle with theblack boxes that you have to be

(46:42):
able to trust it wholly, and ifit creates a language that human
beings can't even understandanymore, we kind of like have to
let go of that.
We have to become comfortablewith not knowing.
And yeah, that's why this isimportant, because when you have

(47:07):
the redistribution of wealthbeing your culture like this and
you don't have to changeanything about what you're doing
today in order to start earningan income, a basic income.
It becomes quite compelling andit's a great way for you to
begin to learn how to be aportfolio manager and how to

(47:29):
steward your own assets and yourown wealth, and and learn how
to incentivize yourself or beincentivized to alter your
behavior in certain ways.
You know, when you're earningan income for your behavior, for

(47:54):
your culture, you may becomeaware of a compelling reason to,
let's say, move your body more,go to the gym more, watch
specific videos, you know, go ona hero's journey, invest
yourself into self development,self awareness, personal growth,

(48:16):
because people will build onplatforms like this to
incentivize that exact behavior.
Where, if your culture isevolving in a way where the

(48:37):
richness of your interactions isshowing that you're exercising
more, you're lifting heavyweight, you're running long
distances, whatever it may be,then there will be organizations
who are vested in your ongoinghealth.
There will be people who arevested in your ongoing health

(48:59):
because they care.
You know.
There will be all manner ofways for you to be intrinsically
motivated to improve thequality of your own life, and
this is the only reason you willever come to feel as though you

(49:22):
don't need to delegate yourauthority to essentialized
authority is that you know thatyou can be in control of the
quality of your own life.
That's the only way.
That's the only reason.
That's the only way we succeedin this is by rendering

(49:44):
centralized authorities obsolete.
And in order to do that, wemust become wholly responsible
for the quality of our own life.
That doesn't mean we can'tincentivize each other to be
better, to become better, butwe're not going to expect that
of you.
You're not going to have to doit in order to survive.
You're only going to have to doit if you want to improve the

(50:07):
quality of your life.
And this is where it begins.
You know, in New Zealand we'vehad elections yesterday and
we're going to have a change ingovernment.
It's inevitable, and you knowwe do this every three years, as

(50:31):
we have the opportunity todetermine who we delegate
absolute power to.
And my hope is that you knowmaybe a light's gone on with you
this time and that your mind isbeing open to other
possibilities.
Not to, but not to fight thesystem because you don't believe

(50:55):
in it.
Not to fight against it.
That's futile.
You understand that as acollective, we've willed it to
be this way, and so we can'tkeep victimizing ourselves to
the decisions that we make as acollective.
We can't.
We have to accept that we'veall chosen to give that power to

(51:17):
a centralized authority.
So we can't blame thatauthority for how it chooses to
wield its power, because it'srepresentative of so many people
.
But I think the days ofpolarized politics, where you

(51:44):
have to sit on a table and it'skind of a zero sum game, you
know your policies are eithersocial or economic, they can't
be both.
Well, actually they can, butonly in a scenario within which
there is total sovereignty overour own culture, that we can

(52:08):
generate a source of income asthe stewards of our own culture,
as an asset, we can monetize it, and that there are intrinsic
motivations that compel us towant to improve the quality of
our own life by increasing thevalue of our principal asset our
culture, expertise, our skills,the richness of our

(52:30):
interactions, our wisdom.
And it's just around the corner.
It's just around the corner.
So, in terms of a civilizationthat scales, well, hypothesis is
that a hybrid of centralizedand decentralized authority,

(52:53):
with the base foundation,fundamental pillar, being
sovereignty over one's ownculture and being the steward of
that principal asset being thebeginning of learning to be

(53:13):
responsible for the quality ofour own lives.
I believe that's the startingpoint and I don't know whether
it'll succeed, but we have to atleast test the hypothesis and
split test centralized authorityas the only viable blueprint

(53:35):
for civilization and see wherewe land.
We'll fail at some things, we'llsucceed on others.
We'll constantly adapt andcontinue to evolve, and the
beauty of the borderless nationsystem is that you can test the

(53:56):
hypothesis for a blueprint for aborderless nation that can
scale, that will entice peopleto become better, and it will
succeed or it won't.
But you'll have the freedom andthe space to try these things
because the asset of yourculture is being monetized and

(54:20):
it's immutable.
You receive a universal basicincome and you don't have to
change anything that you'redoing now.
You can be exactly who you arenow and my hope is that in time
you'll realize that the risk ofinvesting in yourself and

(54:47):
adapting and changing yourbehavior to become more, to let
go of the previous version ofyourself that you're trying to
cling on to for possibly most ofyour life, it's worth that
sacrifice because of the hopeyou now have and who you have

(55:08):
the potential to become and whowe can become together.
Okay, I'll leave it there.
That's it for the nature ofcivilization.
Talk soon.
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