November 12, 2024 • 34 mins
Join us for an inspiring conversation with the remarkable India Carney, as she takes us through the extraordinary journey of her musical career. From her first spark of passion at nine years old during a church production of "Annie," India has faced and overcome numerous challenges, including being underappreciated and underpaid, particularly as a woman of color. Her resilience shines through as she recounts the highs of performing on a world tour with Katy Perry and sharing the stage with Mariah Carey, episodes that have solidified her significant influence in the industry. We delve into her musical influences, notably the iconic Michael Jackson, who has deeply shaped her artistic vision.
In this episode, we also explore India's experiences on reality TV music shows and the invaluable lessons in performance and connections with mentors like Christina Aguilera. Her journey into songwriting began with a youthful composition named "Relax," leading to a continuous artistic evolution. India shares insights into personal growth and the complexities of relationships, highlighting the inspiration behind her song "God Forbid," born from raw emotion after heartbreak. With aspirations of becoming a household name and creating art that resonates deeply, India’s story is a testament to the cathartic power of music as a source of healing and connection. This episode promises a rich exploration of the intersection between music, personal growth, and artistic expression.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh my gosh.
I was 13 years old.
I wrote a song called Relax.
One of my best friends, asia,will know this song because I
think I called her when I wroteit.
It's just relax relax, relax,relax, relax relax relax and
(00:22):
choose which one's better foryou, Because I was going in
between two guys.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
And I was like, oh my gosh, excellence at its finest.
How that skin glows.
She's a true diamond, with theworld right out back.
She's still smiling, never leftthat crown till she stayed
thriving.
That's it, that's all.
That's it.
That's all, that's it, that'sall, that's it, that's all.
(00:58):
Is that really it, though?
What up, what up, what up?
Welcome to.
That's it, that's All.
Y'all know me, your host, KaseyCarnage, and I have Miss India
Carney on the show today.
Hey India, hello, so.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
India.
When did you first fall in lovewith music?
I was nine years old.
In a community churchproduction of Annie, my church
in Brooklyn, we just didmusicals all the time.
So I was starring as Annie whenI was nine and there was a
moment when I was just likesinging downstage and I just
belted out this note andsomething about that moment.
(01:37):
I remember clearly having thefeeling and the realization that
this is what I wanted to do.
At the time I think I thoughtit was just singing.
I didn't know I was going to doall these other things.
But yeah, it was that I hadstarted learning music in like
mommy and me classes when I wastwo and then I started like
(02:00):
formal training and piano andflute and choir when I was four.
So I had been working up tothis point and I guess at nine
years old it all came together.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You've done a lot in the industry.
You've been on the Voice,you've worked with many artists
across the world.
What do you think some of yourI would say some of your highs
and some of your lows have beenin that?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Hmm, say, some of your highs and some of your lows
have been in that.
Um, the lows, it's interestingbecause I've been talking to
friends about a similar thinglately.
I think the lows are all aboutperception, so I'm not gonna
(02:43):
like play it up and make it seemlike I've had such a hard time
because we all have it's, likeit's part of it, um, and I don't
think I've been spared anything.
I just think I've been sodetermined this whole time that
I don't okay, I Okay, I got toknow, yes, that stung, and I'm
(03:04):
still going to keep going.
And also, growing up in New Yorkcity, like you, just have to
grow thick skin.
So perhaps I was oblivious tosome things that other people
would consider real lows and Ijust saw them as speed bumps and
those lows are usually justbeing underappreciated, devalued
(03:28):
, underpaid.
As a singer, as a woman, as ablack person it's like I've gone
through it already, all right.
So, like every time it happensagain, I'm kind of expecting it
at this point and I know that itdoesn't mean anything towards
my worth.
So I don't know, I just got tokeep going.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, that's good that you don't choose to dwell
on it, because a lot of peopletake that and let them stop them
.
So that's good that you'd seeit as a speed bump and that's a
good term to use, because whenyou do have um, I say when you
have a vision on your purpose,you have to know that it's not a
straight line right.
(04:09):
You got to go around the cornerwith you driving.
You take a short because peoplewant to take shortcuts
sometimes and sometimes it's not.
You can't do that, you have toreally feel it.
So it's good, that is goodperception, that you see it that
way.
So talk about your highs.
What was like one of yourfavorite moments?
So talk about your highs.
What was like one of yourfavorite moments.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I remember the first show we had on the Katy Perry
tour was in Chile, I think, andit was my first like world tour,
like like that, and she's likecoming out of the stage and I'm
(04:50):
just standing there on stagelike, oh man, I'm singing at a
stadium right now for Katy Perry, thank you.
So I think that was one moment,yeah, that it just really sunk
in.
I think doing this latestMariah Carey tour was another
high, because it wasn't until,like when you do the kinds of
stuff, that we do it's like youget used to it's a job.
Most of these things are justjobs and half the time the
(05:11):
artist like doesn't really carethat you're there, um, so you
just get used to that kind ofseparation.
Um.
So when I did the Mariah thing,I went in there just kind of
like, yeah, this is a huge honor, but like it's another gig, and
then like a few shows in.
Then it hit me and I was like,oh my gosh, I'm singing oh my
(05:34):
gosh, actually this is a bigdeal, like I gotta like.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I feel like it's not a big deal because, like my
younger self, the little girlsaying all these songs are like
screaming inside, but my adultis like I'm just, it's a job,
but really it's a big deal bigdeal, I mean like it didn't even
occur.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like I would say, the people who've influenced me
most are not, are no longer withus, and so part of that
realization was like, oh my gosh, like I got some of my style
stylistic ideas from her.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
There she is oops in the flesh, so okay.
So let's talk about some ofyour influences.
Who would you say they were?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
yeah, I have a lot.
Um, I would say Michael Jacksonhas always been like my biggest
.
I just hail to the king it was.
He was the king of pop for areason, and so was Whitney.
Like their household names, andsometimes, a lot of times, I
think, household names, whetherit be like brands of things or
(06:36):
or artists or whatever, um,there's a lot of hype over not
that much, and so, at least inmy experience, the tendency is
to think, oh, is to question, oh, are they really that good?
Right, and like Michael andWhitney, yes, yeah, they were,
they were household names for areason.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The best thing about it is to like hear them out.
Now Everyone's doing like these, stripped down like just vocal
videos, so you can actually hearwhat they were doing.
You're like hear what they weredoing.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You're like whoa they were doing all of that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
They were working and then also, too, working without
all the extras that we have now.
You know they talk about, likeyou know, I even like when I
think about, like Ray Charles,those one takes like those bands
were doing these things.
In one takes harmonies,everything, bands, everything it
messed up.
You gotta do it all over again.
So it's like it was a showabout like the work ethic, about
(07:28):
these artists.
Um, okay, so I do havesomething funny to ask you.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I do have some more influences, though.
If you want, I want them all,tell me.
It's a long list and I think itmight also like give more
context to how I don't know howmy music maybe makes sense.
Okay, michael Jackson, whitneyHouston's definitely one.
Love, jasmine Sullivan.
Love, lucky Day, love Coldplay,john Mayer Chaka Khan Okay, I
(08:00):
think those were like the bigones.
Stevie Wonder Okay, I thinkthose were like the big ones,
stevie Wonder.
And then like genres of music,like I love opera, I love
classical music, especially likethe Baroque era of music, and
then, like Stephen Sondheim,musical theater is probably my
(08:22):
favorite.
Yes, hail to the musicaltheater.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Kids, we love you, we still love you.
There's a lot of us out hererepping for you.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
So what I was going to say isthat one of the things that I
thought was funny so you've beenon the Voice, traveling the
world, all this stuff, but it'sfunny that you noted that when
you, I guess, broke out was thesocial media videos your social
(08:47):
media.
You were doing the harmonies inthese videos.
What was?
What was the one that actuallywas like this is it Like?
You looked at your phone whenit was like wait, all these
views are happening.
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I believe it was Cry Me a River.
I did a cover of JustinTimberlake's Cry Me a River.
It was Cry Me a River.
I did a cover of JustinTimberlake's Cry Me a River and
that was back when I was doingthe acapella app.
When, like, the acapella app islike fully live and it's kind
of hard to sync up, to Like it'sa, it's a hard video to make
(09:20):
because it's just live throughyour iPhone headphone microphone
, which is low quality.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And so it's funny.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Now, because now I like produce the videos
listening back to that and I'mlike that, that was it.
But anyway, I did that video.
I was on tour with Katie at thetime and I just made a promise
to myself to still be working onmy stuff.
So anyway, that video I think Iposted it before we traveled to
some other continent, so justto give the image of I had just
(09:50):
gotten off of a really longflight.
I opened my Instagram to like40,000 more followers or
something, I think, becauseKristen Bell, the actress,
reposted my video and she wasjust kind of very like
generously, just fangirling.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
She reposted it and I was like, well, you know, isn't
it funny, like what the thingis that will break you.
Like like I've seen so many,especially social media.
You have all these things onsocial media like like it was
always so funny to me when likemukbangs became like super
popular.
Like so you guys want to me.
When like mukbangs became likesuper popular, like so you guys
want to see people eat, likethat's what's interesting.
(10:30):
So you just never know andthat's why I think it's like a
good thing that, like you knowwhen you're living in your
purpose and you're just throwingyour art out there because you
just don't know.
And people I think that itcatches are really the people
that are putting it out therebecause they want to and they
(10:50):
genuinely love it, not becausethey're trying to create
clickbait or trying to become aninfluencer.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's because, no, this is what I do, I love to do.
This is what I love to do.
And you know what it might havebeen?
The ain't no sunshine video, tobe honest now I'm having brain
fog.
It was one of those.
It was either ain't no sunshineor cry me a river, but I mean
you got a lot.
So at point you have a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
She can name any of them at this point.
At this point, the views is up,she's up, okay, so let's talk
about the Voice a little bit.
Very popular.
I always like to ask my friendswho have been on these reality
shows and stuff what was yourexperience like?
Do you think that it helped?
Do you think that it wasbeneficial to you in your career
(11:28):
?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
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(11:52):
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
Norman Chad at YouTube.
Yeah, I actually had a greatexperience.
Thank God, because if I didn't,I don't know what answer I'd
give you.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, I hope it would be a real one.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No, I actually did enjoy my time, I think, because
I had low expectations for it bythat time.
I auditioned for a few of thoseshows and I wasn't getting.
I mean I got far.
Auditioned for a few of thoseshows and I wasn't getting.
I mean I got far.
I actually did get far enoughto the point where it hurt when
I kept getting no's for thefinal tv round and so, um,
mentally, I was just overauditioning again and then they
(12:36):
reached out and you know the waythey reached out made me, um,
really hopeful about my chances.
So I went and I was seen, likeI got to the TV round and and
and then I was like, oh well,thank God I'm here and thank God
(12:57):
I'm like ready to be here.
Like, looking back at my videos,they were not my favorite but I
was technically and emotionallyready to take on whatever that
was at the time.
It was a safe space, like Iwasn't like messing up.
(13:18):
I wasn't over there up.
I wasn't over there cracking orlike sounding terrible.
I just sounded like a girl whowas about to graduate college,
was still studying heavily inclassical music and loved to
sing.
Like it just felt like a goodrepresentation of who I was at
that time and I'm really happythat people loved it, because I
(13:38):
got a lot of support from thejudges and from the people who
became my fans.
I also got a lot of hate online,but I think I got more love.
They treated us really well.
You know, we had our greenrooms.
Well, you know, we had ourgreen rooms, we had our hotel,
(14:00):
our hotels and stuff and like,yeah, just like all of the
mechanics of the show were wellconditioned by the time I got
there and I felt like I mattered.
I had a great time with mycoach, who was Christina
Aguilera, and, yeah, I felt likewe shared like a genuine
connection at the time and she'salso someone who, like I, grew
(14:23):
up listening to, who I admired.
So, yeah, I'm glad I went inwith no expectations, because if
I did, I'd probably have adifferent story for you, but I
was ready to go when I went,which was at the top five, which
is pretty much at the endanyway, I got so much out of it.
I learned a lot.
I learned a lot of like whatthe artist experiences too, even
(14:45):
from just like that was myfirst time, I think using in-ear
monitors, learning how soundchecks go All this stuff like
that's so valuable to me now.
I learned there.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Okay, so let's take it back.
Let's take it back.
What was the first song youremember writing and how old
were you?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh my gosh.
I was 13 years old.
I wrote a song called Relax.
One of my best friends, asia,will know this song because I
think I called her when I wroteit.
It's just relax Like, relax,relax, relax, relax.
It's just relax like relax,relax, relax, relax relax relax
(15:26):
and choose which one's betterfor you, because I was going in
between two guys and I was like,oh my gosh, calm down.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You just really said calm down, girl, just like think
about it, just relax, thinkabout it and choose, choose,
which was better.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Some dumb boys too, always.
But I guess I was like reallystressed about it and I'm pretty
sure that was my first song.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, okay, dope.
So, like, what is your approach?
What is your approach now?
Like I mean, as you'redeveloping as an artist, because
I feel like people saydeveloped, I always believe that
we're continuously developing.
So, as you've been developingas an artist and you're
songwriting, well, what do youthink that I have brain farts
(16:15):
all the time.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
I'm going to say in your development.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
where do you think that you would like to go, that
you haven't gone yet so manyplaces?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
But the more I talk about it, the more I realize
like it's really just how I feelabout myself, because, you know
, people have theseconversations with me and then
they're like, you know, you justseem so successful, like you
must be like light years fartherthan you, just seem so
successful, like you must belike light years farther than
your younger self would haveexpected you to be.
And I'm like, yeah, you'reright, um, but I'm not there yet
(16:49):
.
I'm not where you, where youare.
I don't see myself the way yousee me, um, and so I think the
places that I have to go arehonestly, probably more internal
, because I'm so grateful foreverything I've gotten to do in
my life so far and you askingthat question is a nice reminder
(17:10):
to humble myself and just likethink about what I've done and
actually appreciate it, becauseI don't take the time to do that
.
I'm such a workaholic, I'm justthinking about the next thing.
So thank you for the question,but I think I want to get to a
point where, like, I'm financingmy life and career from my solo
(17:36):
music.
So I want to be touring, I wantto be a household name.
I, I love Michael Jackson'swhole like thing, just like the
big production value stuff,being such an authentic artist
that he that music transcendedeverything.
(17:59):
It it like resonated witheverybody.
It it really like got in to thehearts of people.
It got into their hearts.
They will never forget the wayhis music made them feel, never
forget the way his performancesmade them feel.
That's the kind of impact thatI want to have, which is
probably why I teach a lot,because giving back and like
(18:24):
connecting with other people isvery important to me.
So, anyway, I would love for mymusic to take me to that level
where I'm not working for otherpeople too.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And I believe that it will.
I remember the first time I sawyou.
I literally moved out here in2014.
I believe you remember thatplace, room 5.
Was it Room 5?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Buttered up.
Did it turn into buttered up?
Whatever that place was on LaBrea.
On La Brea, it was like a blackspace.
On La Brea, it was like a blackspace that's what it was called
(18:57):
room 5.
And you were singing there withDavey Aiden and I just remember
thinking, like this woman hassuch a unique voice, like it was
like.
It was like because you knowyou go to.
You know, let's say, whenyou're singing, you go to these
shows.
Not, I don't want to say thatyou typically know what this
(19:17):
person's gonna sound like whenyou look at, maybe prejudging or
whatever.
And out of the women that I hadbeen hearing, your voice was so
much different.
You were an alto.
It was definitely way moresilkier it was definitely way
more technical.
um, so the influences that youwere talking about definitely
make more sense to me now thatI'm I'm hearing it, because I
(19:39):
was just like, wow, this isbeautiful.
And then, just seeing you thusfar after that, I was like yeah,
she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I was like I like that.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I like a person that works and really takes their
craft to like.
They really pay attention totheir craft and really it's
important to them.
You can tell when it'simportant to you and giving back
like you said you teach isalways a thing.
We have to keep these doorsrevolving for the next
generation and things like that.
So before we get into anythingelse, we're like I like to play
(20:10):
games on the show, so we'regoing to play this game called
Roll With it or Bounce.
It's about dating.
Oh, that's still you're goingto.
I'm gonna ask you a series ofquestions okay and you're gonna
tell me if you would roll withit or you would bounce okay okay
, roll or bounce.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, oh wow.
You've just been staring at theside of my head this whole time
.
Maybe I should look this way no, you're good, you're good.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
We have just three cameras here, girl, you're good,
she got all the angles allright, you ready, yeah, yeah,
they admitted to cheating ontheir ex girl.
Let's put cameras here.
You're good.
She got all the angles.
All right, you ready?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they admittedto cheating on their ex.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Anyone out there feel like the issues of our time are
insanely important, but gettingargued to the point of stupid,
or how people hushing artistsonline are missing the whole
point of artistry.
Not to mention the FirstAmendment.
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free to your inbox atslapthepowercom um, I'd have to
just under ask for more context,you're?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
talking to a cancer.
I'm a cancer.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Um, maybe it makes sense with a d, but let me, let
me see what you say, because Iremember I have a friend who did
cheat on their ex and you knowthey're one of my best friends,
so I couldn't judge them thesame way that I might somebody I
don't know that well.
And so that was the first timethat I had firsthand experience
(21:56):
of cheating.
And so I asked them okay, well,what happened?
And then I got a betterunderstanding that it's cheating
.
Cheating stories um, tend to bedifferent, right, it's a
case-by-case basis, okay, and Ifall hard for people.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So if, if this guy told me um, let me not curse,
but there's a chance I mighthear him out right, exactly,
okay, they have a lot of unsavednumbers in their messages.
I don't roll with it.
Yeah, that's not a bad one.
(22:34):
I don't save a lot of peopleanyway.
They like to party a lot.
Roll with it.
Okay, you're like chill.
You're like super chill.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'm chill, unless you're emotionally unavailable.
Right, okay, they're a hustlerbut don't have a job.
It depends what the hustle is.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Are you good at it?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You're good girl, she's a saint.
She's a saint y'all.
She's a saint.
Get into it.
She's a saint y'all.
Okay, they hold on, let me go.
They like the strip club.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, I'd probably bounce.
I don't know this person, so Idon't know how attracted I am,
because I will let some redflags go.
So that's clear.
This other guy was with redflag, red flag, red flag, they
were red flags, and then thisone, really red flag showed up,
(23:33):
and then I was finally like ohright, right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The flags All of them , the flags, the flags.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You know this worked out all right, they have a child
.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I think it depends.
I'm 30 now, so depending on age, that's what I say.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
That's what I said.
I said I feel like I feel likeum, now that I am in the certain
age bracket that some of thesemen might have children.
I personally need them to beolder, like I don't know if I
can deal with like a newborntoddler situation like you gotta
be, like that kid is kind of onits own.
So we have time so we have time.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I think it depends.
I've never been with somebodywho has a kid to know that, um,
but yeah okay.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Last question they don't express their opinions
enough.
Bounce, bounce.
Well, there you have it.
That's roll with it or bouncewith india.
Carney, all right, let's getinto this song um, god forbid,
yeah, um which we're gonna playfor you guys today.
Can you let, uh, let the people, people know where the
(24:38):
inspiration came from?
Were you sitting up in yourroom?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I was, and this was back when I was living with a
roommate in our two bedrooms, sonow I have space to have a
separate studio and just havesome more balance.
And back then my piano wasright next to my bed.
So I hopped out of bed in tearsbecause I had just gotten
(25:02):
broken up with.
I don't remember how it was.
I think I was broken up with inthe summer or something, and
then it took me like a couplemonths to get over it.
We weren't even dating for thatlong.
But like I fall hard, so it iswhat it is.
It it's just me.
So anyway, yeah, he dumped meand then I did my snooping and
(25:23):
saw this girl commenting on hisstuff and I was like, well,
who's this?
We just broke up a month or twoago and I put two and two
together.
So that was the inspiration forGod Forbid.
And so I woke up and just hadthis melody in my head.
I sat at the piano and I prettymuch wrote the whole song, just
like right there.
(25:43):
And, uh, you know, as artistsyou know that rarely happens
where it's just a stream ofconsciousness.
When it does, you know you gotsomething good, whether, even if
, even if you finish the songand you hated it.
That stream of consciousnesswas probably a priceless moment
for you and your development.
(26:04):
So anyway, this song is one ofmy favorites.
It was the first song I wrotethat I was actually well, it was
technically the second song Iwrote that I was proud about.
Proud of um and uh.
Anyway, that's where it camefrom.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Thank you.
Two clicks and I'm in One toomany.
Wish I hadn't been.
I'm stuck here scrollingthrough, and I know she's new to
you, I know what it is, Iworked hard for it, but my heart
(27:06):
was gone.
My heart was far gone Gone.
But you lie.
You lie, how could you lie?
God forbid I ever meet her.
(27:28):
Hope you never break around.
God forbid I ever meet her.
She won't know.
She broke me down, don't youever let me be.
(27:50):
She'll remind me of everything Iwant to give to you oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
(28:17):
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, really thought Iwas right and I chose to give
you my time.
I wasn't gonna.
If you know, you know.
Well, I'm happy thinking of her.
(28:40):
Well, tell me, is she specialtoo?
It's too bad, I don't see it.
Yeah, but you lie.
You lie, how could you lie?
God forbid I ever meet her.
(29:05):
Hope you never bring her home.
God forbid I ever meet her.
She won't know she broke myheart.
Don't you ever let me meet her.
She'll remind me of everythingI wouldn't give to you work,
(29:30):
trust me I am.
I'm fine not being yours.
(29:58):
Trust me I am.
You win some, you lose some.
I just thought we won.
You win some, you lose some.
I thought we won.
You win some, you lose some.
I thought we won, but you lied.
God forbid I ever meet her.
(30:20):
Hope you'd never bring heraround.
God forbid I ever meet her.
She won't know she broke medown.
Oh, don't you worry.
Oh, she'll remind me Ofeverything I know, everything I
(30:47):
couldn't give up.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
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wow, wow, wow, that was amazingthank you and to all the women
out there.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
That is very relatable.
It's like that next one.
I don't want to meet her, Idon't want to run into her, I
don't want to see her.
I don't want to do anythingbecause I really don't know what
I'm going to act like.
I don't know if I'm over it yet.
Like I don't know if I'm goingto be over it yet.
Or is my face going to crack?
Am I going to be like that wasamazing and it was so beautiful.
Thank you for that, and thatwas, god Forbid.
(32:02):
Head out of here.
I want to thank you so much forcoming on the show and chatting
with me on.
That's it.
That's All.
I like to leave messages at theend of my shows.
I believe that we have to.
What we get, we gotta give back.
If there was a message that youwanted to give to your younger
self or just anybody out in theworld about being who they are,
staying in their purpose,finding their creativity and
using that for good, what wouldyou say?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
that you should find your creativity and use it for
good.
Hey, easy easy peasy.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Well, where can they find you india?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
you can find me on instagram uh, at india
underscore carnie.
That's mainly where I am rightnow if someone wants to teach
you how to learn tiktok, thenI'll post more videos there well
, you do all the videos now justpost it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, they don't work well.
On tiktok oh well, tiktok, youneed to get it together she's
basically saying y'all got bugs,y'all don't like finished
productions and I do I needquality, I need quality.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Well, there you it y'all.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Thank you so much, india, for coming on the show.
Thank you so much.
If you guys have, you'rewelcome.
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Oh my gosh.
I was 13 years old.
I wrote a song called Relax.
One of my best friends, asia,will know this song because I
think I called her when I wroteit.
It's just relax relax, relax,relax, relax relax relax and
(00:22):
choose which one's better foryou, Because I was going in
between two guys.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
And I was like, oh my gosh, excellence at its finest.
How that skin glows.
She's a true diamond, with theworld right out back.
She's still smiling, never leftthat crown till she stayed
thriving.
That's it, that's all.
That's it.
That's all, that's it, that'sall, that's it, that's all.
(00:58):
Is that really it, though?
What up, what up, what up?
Welcome to.
That's it, that's All.
Y'all know me, your host, KaseyCarnage, and I have Miss India
Carney on the show today.
Hey India, hello, so.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
India.
When did you first fall in lovewith music?
I was nine years old.
In a community churchproduction of Annie, my church
in Brooklyn, we just didmusicals all the time.
So I was starring as Annie whenI was nine and there was a
moment when I was just likesinging downstage and I just
belted out this note andsomething about that moment.
(01:37):
I remember clearly having thefeeling and the realization that
this is what I wanted to do.
At the time I think I thoughtit was just singing.
I didn't know I was going to doall these other things.
But yeah, it was that I hadstarted learning music in like
mommy and me classes when I wastwo and then I started like
(02:00):
formal training and piano andflute and choir when I was four.
So I had been working up tothis point and I guess at nine
years old it all came together.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You've done a lot in the industry.
You've been on the Voice,you've worked with many artists
across the world.
What do you think some of yourI would say some of your highs
and some of your lows have beenin that?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Hmm, say, some of your highs and some of your lows
have been in that.
Um, the lows, it's interestingbecause I've been talking to
friends about a similar thinglately.
I think the lows are all aboutperception, so I'm not gonna
(02:43):
like play it up and make it seemlike I've had such a hard time
because we all have it's, likeit's part of it, um, and I don't
think I've been spared anything.
I just think I've been sodetermined this whole time that
I don't okay, I Okay, I got toknow, yes, that stung, and I'm
(03:04):
still going to keep going.
And also, growing up in New Yorkcity, like you, just have to
grow thick skin.
So perhaps I was oblivious tosome things that other people
would consider real lows and Ijust saw them as speed bumps and
those lows are usually justbeing underappreciated, devalued
(03:28):
, underpaid.
As a singer, as a woman, as ablack person it's like I've gone
through it already, all right.
So, like every time it happensagain, I'm kind of expecting it
at this point and I know that itdoesn't mean anything towards
my worth.
So I don't know, I just got tokeep going.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, that's good that you don't choose to dwell
on it, because a lot of peopletake that and let them stop them
.
So that's good that you'd seeit as a speed bump and that's a
good term to use, because whenyou do have um, I say when you
have a vision on your purpose,you have to know that it's not a
straight line right.
(04:09):
You got to go around the cornerwith you driving.
You take a short because peoplewant to take shortcuts
sometimes and sometimes it's not.
You can't do that, you have toreally feel it.
So it's good, that is goodperception, that you see it that
way.
So talk about your highs.
What was like one of yourfavorite moments?
So talk about your highs.
What was like one of yourfavorite moments.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I remember the first show we had on the Katy Perry
tour was in Chile, I think, andit was my first like world tour,
like like that, and she's likecoming out of the stage and I'm
(04:50):
just standing there on stagelike, oh man, I'm singing at a
stadium right now for Katy Perry, thank you.
So I think that was one moment,yeah, that it just really sunk
in.
I think doing this latestMariah Carey tour was another
high, because it wasn't until,like when you do the kinds of
stuff, that we do it's like youget used to it's a job.
Most of these things are justjobs and half the time the
(05:11):
artist like doesn't really carethat you're there, um, so you
just get used to that kind ofseparation.
Um.
So when I did the Mariah thing,I went in there just kind of
like, yeah, this is a huge honor, but like it's another gig, and
then like a few shows in.
Then it hit me and I was like,oh my gosh, I'm singing oh my
(05:34):
gosh, actually this is a bigdeal, like I gotta like.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I feel like it's not a big deal because, like my
younger self, the little girlsaying all these songs are like
screaming inside, but my adultis like I'm just, it's a job,
but really it's a big deal bigdeal, I mean like it didn't even
occur.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like I would say, the people who've influenced me
most are not, are no longer withus, and so part of that
realization was like, oh my gosh, like I got some of my style
stylistic ideas from her.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
There she is oops in the flesh, so okay.
So let's talk about some ofyour influences.
Who would you say they were?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
yeah, I have a lot.
Um, I would say Michael Jacksonhas always been like my biggest
.
I just hail to the king it was.
He was the king of pop for areason, and so was Whitney.
Like their household names, andsometimes, a lot of times, I
think, household names, whetherit be like brands of things or
(06:36):
or artists or whatever, um,there's a lot of hype over not
that much, and so, at least inmy experience, the tendency is
to think, oh, is to question, oh, are they really that good?
Right, and like Michael andWhitney, yes, yeah, they were,
they were household names for areason.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The best thing about it is to like hear them out.
Now Everyone's doing like these, stripped down like just vocal
videos, so you can actually hearwhat they were doing.
You're like hear what they weredoing.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You're like whoa they were doing all of that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
They were working and then also, too, working without
all the extras that we have now.
You know they talk about, likeyou know, I even like when I
think about, like Ray Charles,those one takes like those bands
were doing these things.
In one takes harmonies,everything, bands, everything it
messed up.
You gotta do it all over again.
So it's like it was a showabout like the work ethic, about
(07:28):
these artists.
Um, okay, so I do havesomething funny to ask you.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I do have some more influences, though.
If you want, I want them all,tell me.
It's a long list and I think itmight also like give more
context to how I don't know howmy music maybe makes sense.
Okay, michael Jackson, whitneyHouston's definitely one.
Love, jasmine Sullivan.
Love, lucky Day, love Coldplay,john Mayer Chaka Khan Okay, I
(08:00):
think those were like the bigones.
Stevie Wonder Okay, I thinkthose were like the big ones,
stevie Wonder.
And then like genres of music,like I love opera, I love
classical music, especially likethe Baroque era of music, and
then, like Stephen Sondheim,musical theater is probably my
(08:22):
favorite.
Yes, hail to the musicaltheater.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Kids, we love you, we still love you.
There's a lot of us out hererepping for you.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
So what I was going to say isthat one of the things that I
thought was funny so you've beenon the Voice, traveling the
world, all this stuff, but it'sfunny that you noted that when
you, I guess, broke out was thesocial media videos your social
(08:47):
media.
You were doing the harmonies inthese videos.
What was?
What was the one that actuallywas like this is it Like?
You looked at your phone whenit was like wait, all these
views are happening.
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I believe it was Cry Me a River.
I did a cover of JustinTimberlake's Cry Me a River.
It was Cry Me a River.
I did a cover of JustinTimberlake's Cry Me a River and
that was back when I was doingthe acapella app.
When, like, the acapella app islike fully live and it's kind
of hard to sync up, to Like it'sa, it's a hard video to make
(09:20):
because it's just live throughyour iPhone headphone microphone
, which is low quality.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And so it's funny.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Now, because now I like produce the videos
listening back to that and I'mlike that, that was it.
But anyway, I did that video.
I was on tour with Katie at thetime and I just made a promise
to myself to still be working onmy stuff.
So anyway, that video I think Iposted it before we traveled to
some other continent, so justto give the image of I had just
(09:50):
gotten off of a really longflight.
I opened my Instagram to like40,000 more followers or
something, I think, becauseKristen Bell, the actress,
reposted my video and she wasjust kind of very like
generously, just fangirling.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
She reposted it and I was like, well, you know, isn't
it funny, like what the thingis that will break you.
Like like I've seen so many,especially social media.
You have all these things onsocial media like like it was
always so funny to me when likemukbangs became like super
popular.
Like so you guys want to me.
When like mukbangs became likesuper popular, like so you guys
want to see people eat, likethat's what's interesting.
(10:30):
So you just never know andthat's why I think it's like a
good thing that, like you knowwhen you're living in your
purpose and you're just throwingyour art out there because you
just don't know.
And people I think that itcatches are really the people
that are putting it out therebecause they want to and they
(10:50):
genuinely love it, not becausethey're trying to create
clickbait or trying to become aninfluencer.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's because, no, this is what I do, I love to do.
This is what I love to do.
And you know what it might havebeen?
The ain't no sunshine video, tobe honest now I'm having brain
fog.
It was one of those.
It was either ain't no sunshineor cry me a river, but I mean
you got a lot.
So at point you have a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
She can name any of them at this point.
At this point, the views is up,she's up, okay, so let's talk
about the Voice a little bit.
Very popular.
I always like to ask my friendswho have been on these reality
shows and stuff what was yourexperience like?
Do you think that it helped?
Do you think that it wasbeneficial to you in your career
(11:28):
?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
like you do now.
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were America.
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I've played blackjack and poker.
I've bet sports and horse races.
I've even hit the slot machinesat a Pahrump Nevada 7-Eleven.
You say gambling, I sayGambling Mad.
So join me on Gambling Mad withNorman Chad wherever you find
(11:52):
your podcasts.
Follow us on socials atGambling Mad Show or at Gambling
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
Norman Chad at YouTube.
Yeah, I actually had a greatexperience.
Thank God, because if I didn't,I don't know what answer I'd
give you.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, I hope it would be a real one.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No, I actually did enjoy my time, I think, because
I had low expectations for it bythat time.
I auditioned for a few of thoseshows and I wasn't getting.
I mean I got far.
Auditioned for a few of thoseshows and I wasn't getting.
I mean I got far.
I actually did get far enoughto the point where it hurt when
I kept getting no's for thefinal tv round and so, um,
mentally, I was just overauditioning again and then they
(12:36):
reached out and you know the waythey reached out made me, um,
really hopeful about my chances.
So I went and I was seen, likeI got to the TV round and and
and then I was like, oh well,thank God I'm here and thank God
(12:57):
I'm like ready to be here.
Like, looking back at my videos,they were not my favorite but I
was technically and emotionallyready to take on whatever that
was at the time.
It was a safe space, like Iwasn't like messing up.
(13:18):
I wasn't over there up.
I wasn't over there cracking orlike sounding terrible.
I just sounded like a girl whowas about to graduate college,
was still studying heavily inclassical music and loved to
sing.
Like it just felt like a goodrepresentation of who I was at
that time and I'm really happythat people loved it, because I
(13:38):
got a lot of support from thejudges and from the people who
became my fans.
I also got a lot of hate online,but I think I got more love.
They treated us really well.
You know, we had our greenrooms.
Well, you know, we had ourgreen rooms, we had our hotel,
(14:00):
our hotels and stuff and like,yeah, just like all of the
mechanics of the show were wellconditioned by the time I got
there and I felt like I mattered.
I had a great time with mycoach, who was Christina
Aguilera, and, yeah, I felt likewe shared like a genuine
connection at the time and she'salso someone who, like I, grew
(14:23):
up listening to, who I admired.
So, yeah, I'm glad I went inwith no expectations, because if
I did, I'd probably have adifferent story for you, but I
was ready to go when I went,which was at the top five, which
is pretty much at the endanyway, I got so much out of it.
I learned a lot.
I learned a lot of like whatthe artist experiences too, even
(14:45):
from just like that was myfirst time, I think using in-ear
monitors, learning how soundchecks go All this stuff like
that's so valuable to me now.
I learned there.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Okay, so let's take it back.
Let's take it back.
What was the first song youremember writing and how old
were you?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh my gosh.
I was 13 years old.
I wrote a song called Relax.
One of my best friends, asia,will know this song because I
think I called her when I wroteit.
It's just relax Like, relax,relax, relax, relax.
It's just relax like relax,relax, relax, relax relax relax
(15:26):
and choose which one's betterfor you, because I was going in
between two guys and I was like,oh my gosh, calm down.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You just really said calm down, girl, just like think
about it, just relax, thinkabout it and choose, choose,
which was better.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Some dumb boys too, always.
But I guess I was like reallystressed about it and I'm pretty
sure that was my first song.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, okay, dope.
So, like, what is your approach?
What is your approach now?
Like I mean, as you'redeveloping as an artist, because
I feel like people saydeveloped, I always believe that
we're continuously developing.
So, as you've been developingas an artist and you're
songwriting, well, what do youthink that I have brain farts
(16:15):
all the time.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
I'm going to say in your development.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
where do you think that you would like to go, that
you haven't gone yet so manyplaces?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
But the more I talk about it, the more I realize
like it's really just how I feelabout myself, because, you know
, people have theseconversations with me and then
they're like, you know, you justseem so successful, like you
must be like light years fartherthan you, just seem so
successful, like you must belike light years farther than
your younger self would haveexpected you to be.
And I'm like, yeah, you'reright, um, but I'm not there yet
(16:49):
.
I'm not where you, where youare.
I don't see myself the way yousee me, um, and so I think the
places that I have to go arehonestly, probably more internal
, because I'm so grateful foreverything I've gotten to do in
my life so far and you askingthat question is a nice reminder
(17:10):
to humble myself and just likethink about what I've done and
actually appreciate it, becauseI don't take the time to do that
.
I'm such a workaholic, I'm justthinking about the next thing.
So thank you for the question,but I think I want to get to a
point where, like, I'm financingmy life and career from my solo
(17:36):
music.
So I want to be touring, I wantto be a household name.
I, I love Michael Jackson'swhole like thing, just like the
big production value stuff,being such an authentic artist
that he that music transcendedeverything.
(17:59):
It it like resonated witheverybody.
It it really like got in to thehearts of people.
It got into their hearts.
They will never forget the wayhis music made them feel, never
forget the way his performancesmade them feel.
That's the kind of impact thatI want to have, which is
probably why I teach a lot,because giving back and like
(18:24):
connecting with other people isvery important to me.
So, anyway, I would love for mymusic to take me to that level
where I'm not working for otherpeople too.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And I believe that it will.
I remember the first time I sawyou.
I literally moved out here in2014.
I believe you remember thatplace, room 5.
Was it Room 5?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Buttered up.
Did it turn into buttered up?
Whatever that place was on LaBrea.
On La Brea, it was like a blackspace.
On La Brea, it was like a blackspace that's what it was called
(18:57):
room 5.
And you were singing there withDavey Aiden and I just remember
thinking, like this woman hassuch a unique voice, like it was
like.
It was like because you knowyou go to.
You know, let's say, whenyou're singing, you go to these
shows.
Not, I don't want to say thatyou typically know what this
(19:17):
person's gonna sound like whenyou look at, maybe prejudging or
whatever.
And out of the women that I hadbeen hearing, your voice was so
much different.
You were an alto.
It was definitely way moresilkier it was definitely way
more technical.
um, so the influences that youwere talking about definitely
make more sense to me now thatI'm I'm hearing it, because I
(19:39):
was just like, wow, this isbeautiful.
And then, just seeing you thusfar after that, I was like yeah,
she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I was like I like that.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I like a person that works and really takes their
craft to like.
They really pay attention totheir craft and really it's
important to them.
You can tell when it'simportant to you and giving back
like you said you teach isalways a thing.
We have to keep these doorsrevolving for the next
generation and things like that.
So before we get into anythingelse, we're like I like to play
(20:10):
games on the show, so we'regoing to play this game called
Roll With it or Bounce.
It's about dating.
Oh, that's still you're goingto.
I'm gonna ask you a series ofquestions okay and you're gonna
tell me if you would roll withit or you would bounce okay okay
, roll or bounce.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, oh wow.
You've just been staring at theside of my head this whole time
.
Maybe I should look this way no, you're good, you're good.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
We have just three cameras here, girl, you're good,
she got all the angles allright, you ready, yeah, yeah,
they admitted to cheating ontheir ex girl.
Let's put cameras here.
You're good.
She got all the angles.
All right, you ready?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they admittedto cheating on their ex.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Anyone out there feel like the issues of our time are
insanely important, but gettingargued to the point of stupid,
or how people hushing artistsonline are missing the whole
point of artistry.
Not to mention the FirstAmendment.
Welcome to Slap the Power.
I'm Rick Barrio-ry o'dill andI'm asian akia.
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(21:08):
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power everywhere you get yourpodcasts or get it delivered
free to your inbox atslapthepowercom um, I'd have to
just under ask for more context,you're?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
talking to a cancer.
I'm a cancer.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Um, maybe it makes sense with a d, but let me, let
me see what you say, because Iremember I have a friend who did
cheat on their ex and you knowthey're one of my best friends,
so I couldn't judge them thesame way that I might somebody I
don't know that well.
And so that was the first timethat I had firsthand experience
(21:56):
of cheating.
And so I asked them okay, well,what happened?
And then I got a betterunderstanding that it's cheating
.
Cheating stories um, tend to bedifferent, right, it's a
case-by-case basis, okay, and Ifall hard for people.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So if, if this guy told me um, let me not curse,
but there's a chance I mighthear him out right, exactly,
okay, they have a lot of unsavednumbers in their messages.
I don't roll with it.
Yeah, that's not a bad one.
(22:34):
I don't save a lot of peopleanyway.
They like to party a lot.
Roll with it.
Okay, you're like chill.
You're like super chill.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'm chill, unless you're emotionally unavailable.
Right, okay, they're a hustlerbut don't have a job.
It depends what the hustle is.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Are you good at it?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You're good girl, she's a saint.
She's a saint y'all.
She's a saint.
Get into it.
She's a saint y'all.
Okay, they hold on, let me go.
They like the strip club.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, I'd probably bounce.
I don't know this person, so Idon't know how attracted I am,
because I will let some redflags go.
So that's clear.
This other guy was with redflag, red flag, red flag, they
were red flags, and then thisone, really red flag showed up,
(23:33):
and then I was finally like ohright, right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The flags All of them , the flags, the flags.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You know this worked out all right, they have a child
.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I think it depends.
I'm 30 now, so depending on age, that's what I say.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
That's what I said.
I said I feel like I feel likeum, now that I am in the certain
age bracket that some of thesemen might have children.
I personally need them to beolder, like I don't know if I
can deal with like a newborntoddler situation like you gotta
be, like that kid is kind of onits own.
So we have time so we have time.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I think it depends.
I've never been with somebodywho has a kid to know that, um,
but yeah okay.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Last question they don't express their opinions
enough.
Bounce, bounce.
Well, there you have it.
That's roll with it or bouncewith india.
Carney, all right, let's getinto this song um, god forbid,
yeah, um which we're gonna playfor you guys today.
Can you let, uh, let the people, people know where the
(24:38):
inspiration came from?
Were you sitting up in yourroom?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I was, and this was back when I was living with a
roommate in our two bedrooms, sonow I have space to have a
separate studio and just havesome more balance.
And back then my piano wasright next to my bed.
So I hopped out of bed in tearsbecause I had just gotten
(25:02):
broken up with.
I don't remember how it was.
I think I was broken up with inthe summer or something, and
then it took me like a couplemonths to get over it.
We weren't even dating for thatlong.
But like I fall hard, so it iswhat it is.
It it's just me.
So anyway, yeah, he dumped meand then I did my snooping and
(25:23):
saw this girl commenting on hisstuff and I was like, well,
who's this?
We just broke up a month or twoago and I put two and two
together.
So that was the inspiration forGod Forbid.
And so I woke up and just hadthis melody in my head.
I sat at the piano and I prettymuch wrote the whole song, just
like right there.
(25:43):
And, uh, you know, as artistsyou know that rarely happens
where it's just a stream ofconsciousness.
When it does, you know you gotsomething good, whether, even if
, even if you finish the songand you hated it.
That stream of consciousnesswas probably a priceless moment
for you and your development.
(26:04):
So anyway, this song is one ofmy favorites.
It was the first song I wrotethat I was actually well, it was
technically the second song Iwrote that I was proud about.
Proud of um and uh.
Anyway, that's where it camefrom.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Thank you.
Two clicks and I'm in One toomany.
Wish I hadn't been.
I'm stuck here scrollingthrough, and I know she's new to
you, I know what it is, Iworked hard for it, but my heart
(27:06):
was gone.
My heart was far gone Gone.
But you lie.
You lie, how could you lie?
God forbid I ever meet her.
(27:28):
Hope you never break around.
God forbid I ever meet her.
She won't know.
She broke me down, don't youever let me be.
(27:50):
She'll remind me of everything Iwant to give to you oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
(28:17):
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, really thought Iwas right and I chose to give
you my time.
I wasn't gonna.
If you know, you know.
Well, I'm happy thinking of her.
(28:40):
Well, tell me, is she specialtoo?
It's too bad, I don't see it.
Yeah, but you lie.
You lie, how could you lie?
God forbid I ever meet her.
(29:05):
Hope you never bring her home.
God forbid I ever meet her.
She won't know she broke myheart.
Don't you ever let me meet her.
She'll remind me of everythingI wouldn't give to you work,
(29:30):
trust me I am.
I'm fine not being yours.
(29:58):
Trust me I am.
You win some, you lose some.
I just thought we won.
You win some, you lose some.
I thought we won.
You win some, you lose some.
I thought we won, but you lied.
God forbid I ever meet her.
(30:20):
Hope you'd never bring heraround.
God forbid I ever meet her.
She won't know she broke medown.
Oh, don't you worry.
Oh, she'll remind me Ofeverything I know, everything I
(30:47):
couldn't give up.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
(31:29):
wow, wow, wow, that was amazingthank you and to all the women
out there.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
That is very relatable.
It's like that next one.
I don't want to meet her, Idon't want to run into her, I
don't want to see her.
I don't want to do anythingbecause I really don't know what
I'm going to act like.
I don't know if I'm over it yet.
Like I don't know if I'm goingto be over it yet.
Or is my face going to crack?
Am I going to be like that wasamazing and it was so beautiful.
Thank you for that, and thatwas, god Forbid.
(32:02):
Head out of here.
I want to thank you so much forcoming on the show and chatting
with me on.
That's it.
That's All.
I like to leave messages at theend of my shows.
I believe that we have to.
What we get, we gotta give back.
If there was a message that youwanted to give to your younger
self or just anybody out in theworld about being who they are,
staying in their purpose,finding their creativity and
using that for good, what wouldyou say?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
that you should find your creativity and use it for
good.
Hey, easy easy peasy.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Well, where can they find you india?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
you can find me on instagram uh, at india
underscore carnie.
That's mainly where I am rightnow if someone wants to teach
you how to learn tiktok, thenI'll post more videos there well
, you do all the videos now justpost it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, they don't work well.
On tiktok oh well, tiktok, youneed to get it together she's
basically saying y'all got bugs,y'all don't like finished
productions and I do I needquality, I need quality.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Well, there you it y'all.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Thank you so much, india, for coming on the show.
Thank you so much.
If you guys have, you'rewelcome.
If you guys have any questionsfor her, you want to reach out
to her, don't hesitate.
She told you all theinformation.
We'll also have our information.
Please like, subscribe, share,do all the things, and that's it
.
And that's it.
That's all.
That's it.
That's all is written by me,casey Carnage, and produced by
(33:29):
myself and Rick Barrio-Dill.
Associate producer Brie Corey.
Assistant producer LarissaDonahoe, audio and video
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Studios LA, with distributionthrough our collective for
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