April 16, 2024 • 31 mins
Have you ever stood at the intersection of raw talent and relentless ambition, only to feel the world hasn't quite caught up to your rhythm? Rom Lawrell, the R&B pop sensation with a narrative as enthralling as his melodies, joins us to share his tale of perseverance in both the creative realm and as a proud member of the LGBT community. Through the echoes of his childhood, shaped by musical giants like Michael Jackson and Prince, Rom unveils his multifaceted artistry in singing, writing, producing, and videography, all while chasing the elusive shadow of pop superstardom.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Because I'm a gay black name, right?
You would think that you wouldbe celebrated not only in the
LGBT community, but also in thecreative community, but you're
not.
It's like we are the last to belooked at.
We are the last to be uplifted.
I've had people book me forsomething and then they'll see
(00:20):
my video or see my content andthey'll be like, actually you're
not the right fit and you knowwhat it is.
I've heard people always say wedon't know what to do with you,
or maybe if you tone it down abit and it's just like y'all not
enough for me.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
What up, what up, welcome to, that's it, that's
all.
I'm your host, casey Carnage,and today we're going to do
another artist spotlight.
Y'all know it's one of myfavorite segments.
And today we got Rahm Leroux,you know, upcoming still, you
know, I think, as a star,definitely a pop superstar.
Okay, tell them.
Like you know, he helps onChicago.
Some of his influences in hismusic is a fusion of Chicago
(01:32):
House, r&b, dance, rap.
I mean, I've seen this guydevelop and his videos.
If you haven't checked out anyof his videos, make sure you go
do that.
They're always innovative.
They're always innovative,they're always fun, and you
might see me in a couple of them, no shade.
So let's just jump into it.
I don't want to talk more abouthim, because that's what he's
here for.
I'm Rahm, welcome.
(01:53):
What's up.
I'm glad you came on the showtoday.
What's up, what's up?
I want to get you know theworld.
You know that, don't know you.
To know you, because I thinkthat you're an amazing artist
and all of that.
You're a very good friend ofmine.
So tell us a little bit aboutyou, rahm, and what kind of
artists are you?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So what's up, y'all?
I'm Rahm Leroux and I'm an R&Bpop artist.
I consider myself a pop artistbecause I don't just do like R&B
, I don't just do rapping, I doeverything, and most of the time
I'm writing too.
So it's just like I'm a popstar, like when you look at
Michael Jackson, you look atDiana Ross, you look at Missy
(02:36):
Elliott, even Beyonce, likethose are the people who I
aspire to be like, or like Iaspire to have their you know
notoriety in their level of fame.
So yeah, I feel like I'm amultifaceted, multi-talented
artist.
And you know, I don't just dolike music, I do some everything
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producing, writing, singing,video photography, photography
so multi-talented, that's what Ithink.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And as you should be.
That's how you make it in thisworld.
Got a lot of tricks in our bag.
You know what I mean To get thebag.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Ro was being an artist, or a pop artist as you
say.
Was that something you'vealways wanted to be, or is that
something you kind of grew into?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's something that I always wanted to be.
I knew from a young age I usedto be singing around the house
at like two, three, four, andthen, I think, when my family
realized that I was a singer,they were just like, okay, it's
something there Like we have tokind of nudge him or push him in
the right direction.
So, like my dad did music tooand once he found out I could
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sing and do music, like he wasjust like you know, you got to
sing like this, you got to singwith feelings, you got to be
emotional, you know, you got to,you know.
So he really was like pivotalwith me wanting to be an artist.
But I knew when I was like two,what's your dad?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
and music as well.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I want to say he wasn't really in music but he
wanted to do music Like I thinkgrowing up him and his friends
did like a cover band newedition cover band and he sung a
lot at, like the familyreunions and stuff like that,
and he even recorded a few songstoo.
But he kind of was just like theperson who you know.
(04:23):
He bought me the first DAWsCubase I think that was the
first one we used.
He bought a MacBook and hebought a mic.
So I would go over his houseevery other weekend and I would
just lock myself in the room andrecord my songs and write my
songs that I have written overthe years or whatever like that,
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and then it was always good,but the quality I'm not no
engineer so the quality wasalways bad, but I used to make
mixtapes in high school and passthem out to people in high
school and that's pretty muchhow I knew.
And I also remember sittingright next to him watching
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Purple Rain and saying I want todo that.
That was the movie that made mego.
I want to be an entertainer.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We all love Purple Rain and we all love Prince.
I mean as many people as I'vehad on this couch to talk about
Prince.
It's always going to come upiconic.
But what about that movie andwhat about Prince?
Did you see in yourself?
Or did you say, wow, this iswhat I want to do?
What about it?
(05:33):
Touched you?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well, Prince is so eclectic in the way he dresses.
If he was out today he would belike non-binary, Like a
non-binary artist.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean technically, he was without saying he was.
He changed his name to thesymbol.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So he was always the person who would go out there
and do whatever he wanted to do.
And then when I heard the music, it was just something that you
didn't hear.
From music like that, he has aspecific sound.
Even when he produced for otherpeople, like Apollonia, ready
for the World, all those artistsyou can still hear Prince, and
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then even artists today andwriters today you can hear the
influence Like Alien Superstar,by Beyonce.
That is all Prince likeinfluence.
So I just always loved Princebecause he would not like he
wouldn't shy away from beinghimself and doing exactly what
he wanted to do, and that'ssomething that it's taken me a
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long time to develop that withinmyself, but he was always
somebody that would be like hedid this.
So I know you need to go outthere and do something like this
, or you need to go out thereand be just as fearless.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So Well, one thing I do notice and like, especially
in your videos your dancebackground.
Let me tell y'all some I'll befucking it up.
Were you a dancer before?
You were a singer first, or waskind of at the same time.
You were doing both.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
No, so I've always been a singer.
First.
I always did music, even when Iwas young.
I would like watch Barney takethe Barney songs and like change
the person's name, changecertain parts of singing to
people in my family like mygrandma.
So I always sung.
First, dancing came when I wasabout I would say like 12.
(07:24):
And in Chicago there's a wholebunch of like different dance
groups and dance.
We call it the Chicago danceindustry and I used to be in
some of those groups.
So I kind of developed like myknack for auditioning, like I
learned so much and it was justlike have y'all ever seen Bring
it?
It's kind of like Bring it Likewe used to battle the other
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people and the other teams andit was very competitive and very
, very like hard.
Like if you suck you will haveto be in the back, so you will
want to strive to be in thefront so people could be
screaming your name, you know,calling out your name at the
dance down and stuff like that.
So that's where I developed mydancing.
And then eventually, when I gotolder I had moved on to a dance
(08:07):
company full effect, the actualdance company and we like
battled.
We still did the battles andstuff like that.
But we traveled are like theolder people on the team.
They danced in Missy Elliottlose control video and they went
on tour with her.
Our director was also MissyElliott's choreographer, so it
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was just like we got that likeon hand look at how to audition,
how to be the best and how tojust like exert your energy and
really go crazy.
So that's why I learned how todance.
But I always knew like I needto learn how to dance because I
once would be a star and I feellike the stars that I looked at,
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they all could dance.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Unless you're Adele, who could stand there and sell
out, adele, I don't need her todo no piece of choreo.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Adele stand there and address and sell out stadiums.
Man, let me tell you somethingGo ahead, adele.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Just give me Adele and a gown.
That's all I need.
That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's all you need.
But I understand that, like,everybody has their different
necks, and also, too, like it'ssomething about like just just
straight and strengthening yourskills in your craft.
So even if, like, I get thatmaybe you're not a dancer, maybe
you're not a professionalsinger, but if one is lacking
because, like, let's be real,beyonce couldn't dance back in
the day and you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I would say, you don't have to know how to
pick up on choreography fast,you don't have to do
choreography.
But I still suggest taking adance class so you can know how
to perform, so you can know howto move your body on stage.
You don't have to.
You can barely move.
But you want to know how tocaptivate an audience.
Absolutely, and you learn thatthrough dance.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So Absolutely Okay, ron.
What was your first song youever wrote?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The first song I ever wrote.
I would say the first song thatI remember that I ever wrote.
I was like probably 15, 16,even though I've been writing
songs way before that, but thisis like the song that I remember
because it was so pivotal andme being an artist and this is
(10:16):
when, like the techno sound wasreally big and like EDM was
really big, I wrote this songcalled Blow that Bitch Up and I
had Jeff got cheated on.
Wait what?
Yes, it goes, I'm gonna put youon a spaceship and blow that
bitch up.
Blow that, blow that bitch up.
Yeah, I wrote that in highschool because I had Jeff got
(10:37):
cheated on.
So I wanted you know, my ex toknow like I want to put you in a
spaceship and blow it up, youknow, because you broke my heart
, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It was techno, so it was like dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's so amazing.
I would love to hear that.
Can you find it?
I gotta find it.
You should bring it back.
You should bring it backbecause that sound, that sound
still good.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I had to find it, but it was like bring it back.
I feel like when I had thatsong out, everybody was like oh,
you are artists, you know likewell, I mean, especially now
people call these catchphrases.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You should dig that up and bring that back because I
would love to hear it,especially now when, like EDM
and House and stuff is sopopular, I need to bring it back
and have somebody re-produce itfor sure.
Because that is funny.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutsome.
You know, as artists, you know.
You know we have our highs, wehave our lows.
You know we deal with mentalhealth.
We deal with, you know, lack offaith and doubts in ourselves.
(11:27):
Like, have you experienced anyof that and what has been your
process of staying the course?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
All the time.
I experienced that because I'veknown my entire life what I
wanted to be.
So, because it's not happeningas fast, sometimes you get in
your head and you allow likedepression and those thoughts to
creep inside of your mind andyou think like what if this
(11:57):
doesn't happen to me and I'vededicated every moment of my
life to this and kind of makeyou go crazy.
So I just started therapybecause not only do I have like
a lot of childhood stuff that Ihave to like deal with and like
healing my inner child, but Ihave to be okay with knowing
(12:19):
that my journey has is myjourney and everything that I've
ever put out into the universeand I've ever said my mind to
I've achieved.
So this is just something thatI'm going to achieve.
Also, it might take a littlelonger because for legends and
the greats it takes them longer.
Like I don't want just likepopcorn success where it's just
(12:42):
like, oh, I'm famous here, thenfive years later nobody knows me
or nobody cares.
I want to be working in thisindustry until I'm 70.
Like you see, diana Ross, yousee like-.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Quincy Jones Quincy.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Jones, you see like I want to be in this industry
until I die, because I know iswhere I'm supposed to be, you
know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I know it's hard and it hasn't been easy, so I just
try to stay mindful that, likeyou know, just stay the course,
just stay the course.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I went to this meditation session the other day
and it was very good.
It was like what did you callit?
Freedom meditation, where it'snot necessarily one that is
derived from, like the monks,where we are normally taught,
but it was more so finding yourown mantra, and I thought that
was very cool because typicallywhen you go to these kinds of
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sessions, they're either tellingyou or guiding you, or telling
you what you should say or thisis what it could be, and within
that meditation, you know, Ifound my own mantra and it
definitely helped because, asartists, you know, especially
when we're doing a lot of stuffand have to like pay bills and
have to like put stuff asidethat we don't want to have to
decide, it does get cloudy andit does get dark, and then you
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feel like you're lonely, youfeel like nobody understands,
you feel like you're losingfriends and people that you love
, like so it's like one of thosethings where it's a tricky
situation but like staying thecourse is it's not as easy as
people want to make it.
They see the overnight, theysee the views, they see the
happy times, but it's a lot thatgoes on into reaching your
(14:21):
dreams.
Like there's a lot of thingsthat you sacrifice and people
don't talk about that a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And yeah, I just like through therapy is when I
finally started like taking myhead out of like the grind and
like really dealing with myissues and dealing with my
emotions, because I've been herefor a long time like almost
eight years, nine years and inthat process I've lost, like my
(14:46):
grandfather, my cousin,committee suicide, my grandma
just died a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
My grandfather had died, like five years ago, my
other grandfather and it wasjust like, because I'm focusing
so hard on trying to make mydreams come true, I'm not home.
I'm not experiencing thosemoments.
So it's like with my family.
Now that I'm going home more,I'm seeing that everybody has
grown.
But I was holding on to thosethings that I had when I left
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and like now people, they're noteven in that same space, no
more.
So it's just like I owe it tomyself to heal from that and I
owe it to myself to move on fromit too, cause everybody else
has.
While you still holding on tothese things and still holding
on to the thought that, like Iwanna make it better for my
family too, like I want myfamily to, you know, live a good
life, my mom and I have tostruggle, but you just lose
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sight of what's really importantbecause you're still focused on
work.
And you're still focused ondoing these creative things On
top of now.
Everybody has to be a contentcreator on top of writing songs,
doing the things that they do,you know dance class, trying to
audition, like trying to paybills, Like it's so hard.
So I recommend everybody findsomething that makes you feel
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good.
Find something where you canrelease, because it is not easy
for us creatives at all.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
At all.
I mean you wanna say it's likeI think Bosque out was.
Like you know, artists weretortured souls.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And it's the truth.
Have you seen his art Like?
His art is so amazing and it'sso like big now, but when you
look at it you just see like hewas very like trouble in his
mind, like he was going througha lot of things and now we just
consume his art like crazy forpleasure almost, and it's like
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he was so tortured and that'swhat our artist is Like.
Look at people like Beyonce.
She has like the biggest tour.
People love her, but it's stillso many people who talk bad
about her and she's given herentire life to the entertainment
industry, like since she waswhat Born Pretty much.
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Like she's given her entirelife to it.
And it's still people who sayshe doesn't deserve what she has
.
Still people who say, oh, she'smediocre.
It's still people that says, oh, she's an illuminati, like a
black woman worked hard.
And the only way to her successis that she sew herself.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It can be that she worked hard.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's the thing about.
So that points me to my nextquestion Facing the challenges
in the industry.
What kind of challenges haveyou faced?
Do you like the Chukin Pinpoint?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
or any.
Oh, I was like I faced a lot,Like even this year I've dealt
with people because I'm a gayblack man.
Right, you would think that youwill be celebrated not only in
the LGBT community, but also inthe creative community, but
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you're not.
It's like we are the last to belooked at.
We are the last to be, you know,uplifted.
I've had people book me forsomething and then, like they'll
see my video or see my contentand they'll be like actually
you're not the right fit.
Or they will keep pushing meback like saying, hey, we have a
(18:15):
bigger star or a bigger personcoming in to do this interview.
We still got you, but it'sgoing to take, we'll get you
next week, and then next weekthey say something else or say
something else like that and youknow what it is.
I've heard people always saylike we don't know what to do
with you, or maybe if you toneit down a bit, and it's just
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like y'all not enough for me.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You know y'all can't handle me.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Y'all can't think as creatively as talented as I am,
so that's why you don't knowwhat to do with me.
I'm pretty sure they said thesame thing about Lady Gaga.
I'm pretty sure they said thesame thing about all these
people who beat the odds.
So if I have to work a littleharder to do things the way I
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want to do, them then I'm goingto do that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
No, I feel that.
I feel that it's just like oneof those things where you're
like, like for me.
I've always, despite what peoplecan say, like I've always tried
to stay as authentic aspossible, and not only as
authentic as possible, but alsoas understanding and being able
to see other views and move inthat way.
(19:30):
However, you can't help who youheard or you can't help who you
might put a little bad taste inyour mouth based on the decision
you make for yourself, but Ifeel like you owe it to yourself
to be who you are, regardlessand the people around you that
can't understand that.
They just not for you, and it'shurtful, especially when you're
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close to people.
You know what I mean.
You think that people are onthis journey with you, but one
thing that I realized, even likebeing with the show and dealing
with having the friends that Ihave, I was just kind of like
some journeys are just meant foryou.
They're just meant for you, andI think that the compassion in
our hearts, so like wanting tocome with me, like I'm doing
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this, let's do this, and it getsthis heart in when they're not
as into it as you are becauseit's not their vision.
So you have to stick to yourvision and just hope that it all
plays out.
And it's the weirdest thing,like that double-edged sword is
painful, but it's also joyous.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know, yeah, but I feel like that's what
everybody's journey is,everybody's journey.
I always like to use thisanalogy right.
So when you think about Diddy,diddy is this billionaire.
He has everything that he'sprobably ever dreamed of.
But there's other people whoprobably have been like you know
, diddy did us wrong, diddy hurtme.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, speaking of Diddy, but he had to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
He might have had to do it that way so that he could
reach the level that he's atExactly.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But speaking of Diddy , let's talk a little.
Let's talk a little bit aboutwhat?
Do you think about him all of asudden giving back all his
artists, his publishing, do you?
Think that there's some dirt onhim, or do you think that he's?
Because I have two theories onit, but I want to know what you
think about it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I think, you know, he's just probably at a point
where I don't know, I wish Iknew, but I mean honestly that
ain't my business.
But I feel like maybe he's at apoint where it's not really
been a fit of him anymore.
I'm pretty sure he has so manylike business opportunities
where like music gives him justlike the crowd.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, but as an artist, but as artists yourself,
like, say, francis, put, I hadto think about it, like if I had
to put myself in their shoesright At this point.
I think.
What's his name?
Mark, somebody.
I didn't think I was going totalk about this today, but Mark,
whatever, his old artist was.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Mark Curry.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Mark Curry he was talking about okay, now you want
to give it back to us, what isit worth?
Now?
I was like those songs ain'tgoing to be published in movies
or things now, as they wouldhave been when they pop.
So it was kind of like, okay,yeah, you're giving back the
publishing, but it's like whatis it worth now that you made
all this money out of?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
it.
So after a certain time they dogo to the artist anyway.
So I think it's like 20 years,after 20 years it's supposed to
go back to the artist anyway.
But I also feel like certainartists, like you, have to.
Only you are responsible foryour career, right?
So if you had an opportunityand you didn't take the full
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opportunity to where you shouldhave taken it, then you can't
blame the executive.
You have to also know whatyou're signing.
You have to know what you'reputting your name on.
So it's just like for people whosay that it's like I don't know
, that's not my business,honestly.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's not my business, but I thought it was a very hot
topic at the time.
It was a hot topic.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Because it's like now we're talking about ownership
and being independent and notsigning those type of deals, but
also I feel like I would wantto sign a deal honestly, because
being an independent artist ishard.
It is hard being the type ofbudget that I need to like put
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out my vision, how I see it inmy mind.
I need big bucks, but I thinkthe outcome would be triple the
money and plus I already have somany songs that I already have
the catalog.
So it's like I'm not just gonnasign a deal.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And I have nothing, and I just write and I have
nothing, so it just depends onwhat you sign.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
You gotta know what you sign.
You gotta be an independentartist.
You gotta learn the business.
That's the hardest part, Causewhen I started learning the
business I was like what?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
is this you gotta do?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
this you gotta get the split sheets, you gotta do
the sound scheme, you gotta doall this stuff Like learn all
that.
It was hard.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's a lot.
So it's like I do it because Ihave to, cause I'm an
independent artist.
But hopefully, once I build myfan base and I get you know the
right fan base, I can negotiatemy own deals and I can negotiate
what type of money I'm willingto sell my catalog for, or I can
negotiate my marketing budget,because that's the biggest thing
(24:21):
.
I feel like I need a marketingbudget.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So yeah, Okay, so you also have a reality show coming
up?
Tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So it's a reality show about LGBT love.
It's called Love in LA.
It pretty much showcases fivecouples in LA who happen to be
gay black men and it just showslike the ups and downs of
relationships.
We've been filming for a minutebut it's finally coming out
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next month, I believe September,so it'll be out when it's airs,
okay, okay, y'all look out forLove in Hollywood.
Yeah, it's juicy.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's juicy, we're gonna get some tea.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Ooh, we, I'm not giving no tea.
Well, just know, like it was ascene that's very juicy that
we're in.
I hope that it makes peoplereally see that like it isn't
easy being in love but you findthe best way is possible to make
it work and keep it pushingforward and moving forward and
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being your best self.
So, that's why we did this showbecause we wanted to show that,
as black gay men, we are capableof being loved fully.
We are deserving ofunconditional love.
Because a lot of us don't feelthat or see that in ourselves.
So we wanted to.
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That's why we did the show.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Okay, no, it's nice, okay.
Well, he's about to be areality star too.
Y'all, I'm telling y'all he's asuperstar, he's doing it all
he's doing it all.
All right, let's jump into thesong that we're on feature today
.
Let it all out.
Give us a little backgroundabout that role, like what was
your inspiration on it?
The video is dope.
The video goes ham.
(26:15):
The dancing is amazing.
The hair flips.
I was like get them braidstogether, honey.
I love it.
Let's talk about that.
What was your like?
How did you come to that song?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, so let it all out.
It was mainly like I had dealtwith.
So if you look at my videos,from like the beginning up into
this point, it has always kindof like teetered the line of
like is he gay, is he straight,or like.
I never really showed itbecause I had always been kind
of afraid of how people wouldreceive it, but I felt like I
(26:51):
wasn't being authentic.
So with Let it All Out, I had afew opportunities that fizzled
out because people were justlike oh no, he's gay.
You would think it's 2023 andpeople still like block
opportunities because you're gay.
That's so weird.
So I was just like I want tocreate a song that makes me feel
confident and that empowers meand in turn, I hope I empower
(27:14):
other people.
So I want to create somethingthat just makes me feel good and
I'm just going to talk aboutmyself in a good way and let
people know like I'm here.
This is my statement.
I don't care how you view me,how you see me, but I'm not
going to hold back any of mypotential anymore.
So this was me saying Let itAll Out.
(27:35):
I'm letting it all out.
I'm showing you who Rom LaRalleis in this state, and I might
pull different parts of mycreativity, but I'm never going
to hold back who I fully amanymore.
So this is Let it All.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Out.
Ok, let's just jump into it.
Kids, you, you, you.
(30:07):
This is what I was.
Wrong, little red, let it allout, y'all.
It's definitely a banger.
It's definitely a banger.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Makes you want to shimmy and show this boot yeah,
everybody add that to y'allworkout playlist so y'all can
let it all out and give it allyou got up in the gym well, I
want to say thank you, rom, forcoming on the show.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Please let them know how to find you.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Thank you for having me.
Y'all can find me at RomL'Oreal on all platforms YouTube
, spotify, apple music,instagram, tiktok.
Y'all might see me dancing onTikTok, who knows?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
but yes, follow me like subscribe all of that.
I'd like to wrap my shows witha message to the people, or
message to your younger self.
If you had to send a message toeither you young rom or to a
young rom in the world, whatwould you say to them about
becoming who you are and lettingit all out?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
that's a good question and that's a good
ending, because I always feellike an artist lives a life of
serving other people and Ialways say I wanted to be that
person that I needed growing upand that I didn't see on TV
growing up.
So my message to my youngerself, or those little kids out
(31:24):
there who are struggling withloving themselves and being who
they are, I say fuck everybodyand just do what you want to do,
because, at the end of the day,people who don't see your
vision is not meant for them tosee it.
You have to show the world whoyou are and we need you.
(31:45):
We need that little creativeboy, that little creative boy.
I mean we need that littlecreative girl, that little
creative boy.
We need you to be yourself andI'm here to help you let it all
out.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, there you have it, guys.
We have Rom Lerrell on the showtoday and if you want to find
any of his music, you can findhim on Spotify, apple, all the
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That's it, that's all.
Please don't hesitate to sendus a message like subscribe,
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See you next show.
Because I'm a gay black name, right?
You would think that you wouldbe celebrated not only in the
LGBT community, but also in thecreative community, but you're
not.
It's like we are the last to belooked at.
We are the last to be uplifted.
I've had people book me forsomething and then they'll see
(00:20):
my video or see my content andthey'll be like, actually you're
not the right fit and you knowwhat it is.
I've heard people always say wedon't know what to do with you,
or maybe if you tone it down abit and it's just like y'all not
enough for me.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
What up, what up, welcome to, that's it, that's
all.
I'm your host, casey Carnage,and today we're going to do
another artist spotlight.
Y'all know it's one of myfavorite segments.
And today we got Rahm Leroux,you know, upcoming still, you
know, I think, as a star,definitely a pop superstar.
Okay, tell them.
Like you know, he helps onChicago.
Some of his influences in hismusic is a fusion of Chicago
(01:32):
House, r&b, dance, rap.
I mean, I've seen this guydevelop and his videos.
If you haven't checked out anyof his videos, make sure you go
do that.
They're always innovative.
They're always innovative,they're always fun, and you
might see me in a couple of them, no shade.
So let's just jump into it.
I don't want to talk more abouthim, because that's what he's
here for.
I'm Rahm, welcome.
(01:53):
What's up.
I'm glad you came on the showtoday.
What's up, what's up?
I want to get you know theworld.
You know that, don't know you.
To know you, because I thinkthat you're an amazing artist
and all of that.
You're a very good friend ofmine.
So tell us a little bit aboutyou, rahm, and what kind of
artists are you?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So what's up, y'all?
I'm Rahm Leroux and I'm an R&Bpop artist.
I consider myself a pop artistbecause I don't just do like R&B
, I don't just do rapping, I doeverything, and most of the time
I'm writing too.
So it's just like I'm a popstar, like when you look at
Michael Jackson, you look atDiana Ross, you look at Missy
(02:36):
Elliott, even Beyonce, likethose are the people who I
aspire to be like, or like Iaspire to have their you know
notoriety in their level of fame.
So yeah, I feel like I'm amultifaceted, multi-talented
artist.
And you know, I don't just dolike music, I do some everything
(02:57):
producing, writing, singing,video photography, photography
so multi-talented, that's what Ithink.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And as you should be.
That's how you make it in thisworld.
Got a lot of tricks in our bag.
You know what I mean To get thebag.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Ro was being an artist, or a pop artist as you
say.
Was that something you'vealways wanted to be, or is that
something you kind of grew into?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's something that I always wanted to be.
I knew from a young age I usedto be singing around the house
at like two, three, four, andthen, I think, when my family
realized that I was a singer,they were just like, okay, it's
something there Like we have tokind of nudge him or push him in
the right direction.
So, like my dad did music tooand once he found out I could
(03:43):
sing and do music, like he wasjust like you know, you got to
sing like this, you got to singwith feelings, you got to be
emotional, you know, you got to,you know.
So he really was like pivotalwith me wanting to be an artist.
But I knew when I was like two,what's your dad?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
and music as well.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I want to say he wasn't really in music but he
wanted to do music Like I thinkgrowing up him and his friends
did like a cover band newedition cover band and he sung a
lot at, like the familyreunions and stuff like that,
and he even recorded a few songstoo.
But he kind of was just like theperson who you know.
(04:23):
He bought me the first DAWsCubase I think that was the
first one we used.
He bought a MacBook and hebought a mic.
So I would go over his houseevery other weekend and I would
just lock myself in the room andrecord my songs and write my
songs that I have written overthe years or whatever like that,
(04:44):
and then it was always good,but the quality I'm not no
engineer so the quality wasalways bad, but I used to make
mixtapes in high school and passthem out to people in high
school and that's pretty muchhow I knew.
And I also remember sittingright next to him watching
(05:05):
Purple Rain and saying I want todo that.
That was the movie that made mego.
I want to be an entertainer.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We all love Purple Rain and we all love Prince.
I mean as many people as I'vehad on this couch to talk about
Prince.
It's always going to come upiconic.
But what about that movie andwhat about Prince?
Did you see in yourself?
Or did you say, wow, this iswhat I want to do?
What about it?
(05:33):
Touched you?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well, Prince is so eclectic in the way he dresses.
If he was out today he would belike non-binary, Like a
non-binary artist.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean technically, he was without saying he was.
He changed his name to thesymbol.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So he was always the person who would go out there
and do whatever he wanted to do.
And then when I heard the music, it was just something that you
didn't hear.
From music like that, he has aspecific sound.
Even when he produced for otherpeople, like Apollonia, ready
for the World, all those artistsyou can still hear Prince, and
(06:11):
then even artists today andwriters today you can hear the
influence Like Alien Superstar,by Beyonce.
That is all Prince likeinfluence.
So I just always loved Princebecause he would not like he
wouldn't shy away from beinghimself and doing exactly what
he wanted to do, and that'ssomething that it's taken me a
(06:32):
long time to develop that withinmyself, but he was always
somebody that would be like hedid this.
So I know you need to go outthere and do something like this
, or you need to go out thereand be just as fearless.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So Well, one thing I do notice and like, especially
in your videos your dancebackground.
Let me tell y'all some I'll befucking it up.
Were you a dancer before?
You were a singer first, or waskind of at the same time.
You were doing both.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
No, so I've always been a singer.
First.
I always did music, even when Iwas young.
I would like watch Barney takethe Barney songs and like change
the person's name, changecertain parts of singing to
people in my family like mygrandma.
So I always sung.
First, dancing came when I wasabout I would say like 12.
(07:24):
And in Chicago there's a wholebunch of like different dance
groups and dance.
We call it the Chicago danceindustry and I used to be in
some of those groups.
So I kind of developed like myknack for auditioning, like I
learned so much and it was justlike have y'all ever seen Bring
it?
It's kind of like Bring it Likewe used to battle the other
(07:45):
people and the other teams andit was very competitive and very
, very like hard.
Like if you suck you will haveto be in the back, so you will
want to strive to be in thefront so people could be
screaming your name, you know,calling out your name at the
dance down and stuff like that.
So that's where I developed mydancing.
And then eventually, when I gotolder I had moved on to a dance
(08:07):
company full effect, the actualdance company and we like
battled.
We still did the battles andstuff like that.
But we traveled are like theolder people on the team.
They danced in Missy Elliottlose control video and they went
on tour with her.
Our director was also MissyElliott's choreographer, so it
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was just like we got that likeon hand look at how to audition,
how to be the best and how tojust like exert your energy and
really go crazy.
So that's why I learned how todance.
But I always knew like I needto learn how to dance because I
once would be a star and I feellike the stars that I looked at,
(08:49):
they all could dance.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Unless you're Adele, who could stand there and sell
out, adele, I don't need her todo no piece of choreo.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Adele stand there and address and sell out stadiums.
Man, let me tell you somethingGo ahead, adele.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Just give me Adele and a gown.
That's all I need.
That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's all you need.
But I understand that, like,everybody has their different
necks, and also, too, like it'ssomething about like just just
straight and strengthening yourskills in your craft.
So even if, like, I get thatmaybe you're not a dancer, maybe
you're not a professionalsinger, but if one is lacking
because, like, let's be real,beyonce couldn't dance back in
the day and you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I would say, you don't have to know how to
pick up on choreography fast,you don't have to do
choreography.
But I still suggest taking adance class so you can know how
to perform, so you can know howto move your body on stage.
You don't have to.
You can barely move.
But you want to know how tocaptivate an audience.
Absolutely, and you learn thatthrough dance.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So Absolutely Okay, ron.
What was your first song youever wrote?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The first song I ever wrote.
I would say the first song thatI remember that I ever wrote.
I was like probably 15, 16,even though I've been writing
songs way before that, but thisis like the song that I remember
because it was so pivotal andme being an artist and this is
(10:16):
when, like the techno sound wasreally big and like EDM was
really big, I wrote this songcalled Blow that Bitch Up and I
had Jeff got cheated on.
Wait what?
Yes, it goes, I'm gonna put youon a spaceship and blow that
bitch up.
Blow that, blow that bitch up.
Yeah, I wrote that in highschool because I had Jeff got
(10:37):
cheated on.
So I wanted you know, my ex toknow like I want to put you in a
spaceship and blow it up, youknow, because you broke my heart
, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It was techno, so it was like dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's so amazing.
I would love to hear that.
Can you find it?
I gotta find it.
You should bring it back.
You should bring it backbecause that sound, that sound
still good.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I had to find it, but it was like bring it back.
I feel like when I had thatsong out, everybody was like oh,
you are artists, you know likewell, I mean, especially now
people call these catchphrases.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You should dig that up and bring that back because I
would love to hear it,especially now when, like EDM
and House and stuff is sopopular, I need to bring it back
and have somebody re-produce itfor sure.
Because that is funny.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutsome.
You know, as artists, you know.
You know we have our highs, wehave our lows.
You know we deal with mentalhealth.
We deal with, you know, lack offaith and doubts in ourselves.
(11:27):
Like, have you experienced anyof that and what has been your
process of staying the course?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
All the time.
I experienced that because I'veknown my entire life what I
wanted to be.
So, because it's not happeningas fast, sometimes you get in
your head and you allow likedepression and those thoughts to
creep inside of your mind andyou think like what if this
(11:57):
doesn't happen to me and I'vededicated every moment of my
life to this and kind of makeyou go crazy.
So I just started therapybecause not only do I have like
a lot of childhood stuff that Ihave to like deal with and like
healing my inner child, but Ihave to be okay with knowing
(12:19):
that my journey has is myjourney and everything that I've
ever put out into the universeand I've ever said my mind to
I've achieved.
So this is just something thatI'm going to achieve.
Also, it might take a littlelonger because for legends and
the greats it takes them longer.
Like I don't want just likepopcorn success where it's just
(12:42):
like, oh, I'm famous here, thenfive years later nobody knows me
or nobody cares.
I want to be working in thisindustry until I'm 70.
Like you see, diana Ross, yousee like-.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Quincy Jones Quincy.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Jones, you see like I want to be in this industry
until I die, because I know iswhere I'm supposed to be, you
know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I know it's hard and it hasn't been easy, so I just
try to stay mindful that, likeyou know, just stay the course,
just stay the course.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I went to this meditation session the other day
and it was very good.
It was like what did you callit?
Freedom meditation, where it'snot necessarily one that is
derived from, like the monks,where we are normally taught,
but it was more so finding yourown mantra, and I thought that
was very cool because typicallywhen you go to these kinds of
(13:37):
sessions, they're either tellingyou or guiding you, or telling
you what you should say or thisis what it could be, and within
that meditation, you know, Ifound my own mantra and it
definitely helped because, asartists, you know, especially
when we're doing a lot of stuffand have to like pay bills and
have to like put stuff asidethat we don't want to have to
decide, it does get cloudy andit does get dark, and then you
(14:00):
feel like you're lonely, youfeel like nobody understands,
you feel like you're losingfriends and people that you love
, like so it's like one of thosethings where it's a tricky
situation but like staying thecourse is it's not as easy as
people want to make it.
They see the overnight, theysee the views, they see the
happy times, but it's a lot thatgoes on into reaching your
(14:21):
dreams.
Like there's a lot of thingsthat you sacrifice and people
don't talk about that a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And yeah, I just like through therapy is when I
finally started like taking myhead out of like the grind and
like really dealing with myissues and dealing with my
emotions, because I've been herefor a long time like almost
eight years, nine years and inthat process I've lost, like my
(14:46):
grandfather, my cousin,committee suicide, my grandma
just died a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
My grandfather had died, like five years ago, my
other grandfather and it wasjust like, because I'm focusing
so hard on trying to make mydreams come true, I'm not home.
I'm not experiencing thosemoments.
So it's like with my family.
Now that I'm going home more,I'm seeing that everybody has
grown.
But I was holding on to thosethings that I had when I left
(15:18):
and like now people, they're noteven in that same space, no
more.
So it's just like I owe it tomyself to heal from that and I
owe it to myself to move on fromit too, cause everybody else
has.
While you still holding on tothese things and still holding
on to the thought that, like Iwanna make it better for my
family too, like I want myfamily to, you know, live a good
life, my mom and I have tostruggle, but you just lose
(15:40):
sight of what's really importantbecause you're still focused on
work.
And you're still focused ondoing these creative things On
top of now.
Everybody has to be a contentcreator on top of writing songs,
doing the things that they do,you know dance class, trying to
audition, like trying to paybills, Like it's so hard.
So I recommend everybody findsomething that makes you feel
(16:03):
good.
Find something where you canrelease, because it is not easy
for us creatives at all.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
At all.
I mean you wanna say it's likeI think Bosque out was.
Like you know, artists weretortured souls.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And it's the truth.
Have you seen his art Like?
His art is so amazing and it'sso like big now, but when you
look at it you just see like hewas very like trouble in his
mind, like he was going througha lot of things and now we just
consume his art like crazy forpleasure almost, and it's like
(16:38):
he was so tortured and that'swhat our artist is Like.
Look at people like Beyonce.
She has like the biggest tour.
People love her, but it's stillso many people who talk bad
about her and she's given herentire life to the entertainment
industry, like since she waswhat Born Pretty much.
(17:00):
Like she's given her entirelife to it.
And it's still people who sayshe doesn't deserve what she has
.
Still people who say, oh, she'smediocre.
It's still people that says, oh, she's an illuminati, like a
black woman worked hard.
And the only way to her successis that she sew herself.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It can be that she worked hard.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's the thing about.
So that points me to my nextquestion Facing the challenges
in the industry.
What kind of challenges haveyou faced?
Do you like the Chukin Pinpoint?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
or any.
Oh, I was like I faced a lot,Like even this year I've dealt
with people because I'm a gayblack man.
Right, you would think that youwill be celebrated not only in
the LGBT community, but also inthe creative community, but
(17:55):
you're not.
It's like we are the last to belooked at.
We are the last to be, you know,uplifted.
I've had people book me forsomething and then, like they'll
see my video or see my contentand they'll be like actually
you're not the right fit.
Or they will keep pushing meback like saying, hey, we have a
(18:15):
bigger star or a bigger personcoming in to do this interview.
We still got you, but it'sgoing to take, we'll get you
next week, and then next weekthey say something else or say
something else like that and youknow what it is.
I've heard people always saylike we don't know what to do
with you, or maybe if you toneit down a bit, and it's just
(18:37):
like y'all not enough for me.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You know y'all can't handle me.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Y'all can't think as creatively as talented as I am,
so that's why you don't knowwhat to do with me.
I'm pretty sure they said thesame thing about Lady Gaga.
I'm pretty sure they said thesame thing about all these
people who beat the odds.
So if I have to work a littleharder to do things the way I
(19:07):
want to do, them then I'm goingto do that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
No, I feel that.
I feel that it's just like oneof those things where you're
like, like for me.
I've always, despite what peoplecan say, like I've always tried
to stay as authentic aspossible, and not only as
authentic as possible, but alsoas understanding and being able
to see other views and move inthat way.
(19:30):
However, you can't help who youheard or you can't help who you
might put a little bad taste inyour mouth based on the decision
you make for yourself, but Ifeel like you owe it to yourself
to be who you are, regardlessand the people around you that
can't understand that.
They just not for you, and it'shurtful, especially when you're
(19:51):
close to people.
You know what I mean.
You think that people are onthis journey with you, but one
thing that I realized, even likebeing with the show and dealing
with having the friends that Ihave, I was just kind of like
some journeys are just meant foryou.
They're just meant for you, andI think that the compassion in
our hearts, so like wanting tocome with me, like I'm doing
(20:14):
this, let's do this, and it getsthis heart in when they're not
as into it as you are becauseit's not their vision.
So you have to stick to yourvision and just hope that it all
plays out.
And it's the weirdest thing,like that double-edged sword is
painful, but it's also joyous.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know, yeah, but I feel like that's what
everybody's journey is,everybody's journey.
I always like to use thisanalogy right.
So when you think about Diddy,diddy is this billionaire.
He has everything that he'sprobably ever dreamed of.
But there's other people whoprobably have been like you know
, diddy did us wrong, diddy hurtme.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, speaking of Diddy, but he had to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
He might have had to do it that way so that he could
reach the level that he's atExactly.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But speaking of Diddy , let's talk a little.
Let's talk a little bit aboutwhat?
Do you think about him all of asudden giving back all his
artists, his publishing, do you?
Think that there's some dirt onhim, or do you think that he's?
Because I have two theories onit, but I want to know what you
think about it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I think, you know, he's just probably at a point
where I don't know, I wish Iknew, but I mean honestly that
ain't my business.
But I feel like maybe he's at apoint where it's not really
been a fit of him anymore.
I'm pretty sure he has so manylike business opportunities
where like music gives him justlike the crowd.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, but as an artist, but as artists yourself,
like, say, francis, put, I hadto think about it, like if I had
to put myself in their shoesright At this point.
I think.
What's his name?
Mark, somebody.
I didn't think I was going totalk about this today, but Mark,
whatever, his old artist was.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Mark Curry.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Mark Curry he was talking about okay, now you want
to give it back to us, what isit worth?
Now?
I was like those songs ain'tgoing to be published in movies
or things now, as they wouldhave been when they pop.
So it was kind of like, okay,yeah, you're giving back the
publishing, but it's like whatis it worth now that you made
all this money out of?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
it.
So after a certain time they dogo to the artist anyway.
So I think it's like 20 years,after 20 years it's supposed to
go back to the artist anyway.
But I also feel like certainartists, like you, have to.
Only you are responsible foryour career, right?
So if you had an opportunityand you didn't take the full
(22:38):
opportunity to where you shouldhave taken it, then you can't
blame the executive.
You have to also know whatyou're signing.
You have to know what you'reputting your name on.
So it's just like for people whosay that it's like I don't know
, that's not my business,honestly.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's not my business, but I thought it was a very hot
topic at the time.
It was a hot topic.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Because it's like now we're talking about ownership
and being independent and notsigning those type of deals, but
also I feel like I would wantto sign a deal honestly, because
being an independent artist ishard.
It is hard being the type ofbudget that I need to like put
(23:24):
out my vision, how I see it inmy mind.
I need big bucks, but I thinkthe outcome would be triple the
money and plus I already have somany songs that I already have
the catalog.
So it's like I'm not just gonnasign a deal.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And I have nothing, and I just write and I have
nothing, so it just depends onwhat you sign.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
You gotta know what you sign.
You gotta be an independentartist.
You gotta learn the business.
That's the hardest part, Causewhen I started learning the
business I was like what?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
is this you gotta do?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
this you gotta get the split sheets, you gotta do
the sound scheme, you gotta doall this stuff Like learn all
that.
It was hard.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's a lot.
So it's like I do it because Ihave to, cause I'm an
independent artist.
But hopefully, once I build myfan base and I get you know the
right fan base, I can negotiatemy own deals and I can negotiate
what type of money I'm willingto sell my catalog for, or I can
negotiate my marketing budget,because that's the biggest thing
(24:21):
.
I feel like I need a marketingbudget.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So yeah, Okay, so you also have a reality show coming
up?
Tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So it's a reality show about LGBT love.
It's called Love in LA.
It pretty much showcases fivecouples in LA who happen to be
gay black men and it just showslike the ups and downs of
relationships.
We've been filming for a minutebut it's finally coming out
(24:58):
next month, I believe September,so it'll be out when it's airs,
okay, okay, y'all look out forLove in Hollywood.
Yeah, it's juicy.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's juicy, we're gonna get some tea.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Ooh, we, I'm not giving no tea.
Well, just know, like it was ascene that's very juicy that
we're in.
I hope that it makes peoplereally see that like it isn't
easy being in love but you findthe best way is possible to make
it work and keep it pushingforward and moving forward and
(25:32):
being your best self.
So, that's why we did this showbecause we wanted to show that,
as black gay men, we are capableof being loved fully.
We are deserving ofunconditional love.
Because a lot of us don't feelthat or see that in ourselves.
So we wanted to.
(25:52):
That's why we did the show.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Okay, no, it's nice, okay.
Well, he's about to be areality star too.
Y'all, I'm telling y'all he's asuperstar, he's doing it all
he's doing it all.
All right, let's jump into thesong that we're on feature today
.
Let it all out.
Give us a little backgroundabout that role, like what was
your inspiration on it?
The video is dope.
The video goes ham.
(26:15):
The dancing is amazing.
The hair flips.
I was like get them braidstogether, honey.
I love it.
Let's talk about that.
What was your like?
How did you come to that song?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, so let it all out.
It was mainly like I had dealtwith.
So if you look at my videos,from like the beginning up into
this point, it has always kindof like teetered the line of
like is he gay, is he straight,or like.
I never really showed itbecause I had always been kind
of afraid of how people wouldreceive it, but I felt like I
(26:51):
wasn't being authentic.
So with Let it All Out, I had afew opportunities that fizzled
out because people were justlike oh no, he's gay.
You would think it's 2023 andpeople still like block
opportunities because you're gay.
That's so weird.
So I was just like I want tocreate a song that makes me feel
confident and that empowers meand in turn, I hope I empower
(27:14):
other people.
So I want to create somethingthat just makes me feel good and
I'm just going to talk aboutmyself in a good way and let
people know like I'm here.
This is my statement.
I don't care how you view me,how you see me, but I'm not
going to hold back any of mypotential anymore.
So this was me saying Let itAll Out.
(27:35):
I'm letting it all out.
I'm showing you who Rom LaRalleis in this state, and I might
pull different parts of mycreativity, but I'm never going
to hold back who I fully amanymore.
So this is Let it All.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Out.
Ok, let's just jump into it.
Kids, you, you, you.
(30:07):
This is what I was.
Wrong, little red, let it allout, y'all.
It's definitely a banger.
It's definitely a banger.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Makes you want to shimmy and show this boot yeah,
everybody add that to y'allworkout playlist so y'all can
let it all out and give it allyou got up in the gym well, I
want to say thank you, rom, forcoming on the show.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Please let them know how to find you.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Thank you for having me.
Y'all can find me at RomL'Oreal on all platforms YouTube
, spotify, apple music,instagram, tiktok.
Y'all might see me dancing onTikTok, who knows?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
but yes, follow me like subscribe all of that.
I'd like to wrap my shows witha message to the people, or
message to your younger self.
If you had to send a message toeither you young rom or to a
young rom in the world, whatwould you say to them about
becoming who you are and lettingit all out?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
that's a good question and that's a good
ending, because I always feellike an artist lives a life of
serving other people and Ialways say I wanted to be that
person that I needed growing upand that I didn't see on TV
growing up.
So my message to my youngerself, or those little kids out
(31:24):
there who are struggling withloving themselves and being who
they are, I say fuck everybodyand just do what you want to do,
because, at the end of the day,people who don't see your
vision is not meant for them tosee it.
You have to show the world whoyou are and we need you.
(31:45):
We need that little creativeboy, that little creative boy.
I mean we need that littlecreative girl, that little
creative boy.
We need you to be yourself andI'm here to help you let it all
out.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, there you have it, guys.
We have Rom Lerrell on the showtoday and if you want to find
any of his music, you can findhim on Spotify, apple, all the
things it will be posted in thisvideo, in this live.
If you just want to join theconversation, or is there
anybody out there that you wantto see on?
That's it, that's all.
Please don't hesitate to sendus a message like subscribe,
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share and just be a part of theconversation, and that's it,
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That's it.
That's all.
Is written by me, kc Carnage,and produced by myself and Rick
Barrio Dill.
Associate producer, brie Corrie.
Assistant producer LarissaDonahoe.
Audio and video engineering andstudio facilities provided by
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