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May 28, 2024 41 mins

As I stand on the precipice of a new chapter in life, moving to a fresh city, I'm struck by the profound nature of transitions. They are the thread that weaves through our latest episode, where we're joined by the incredible Aniiya, a Houston-based artist and mother, and Nadege, all the way from France, a celebrity fitness trainer and champion of women's empowerment. Together, we engage in a heartfelt exchange on the art of shedding our old skins—whether it's outgrown belongings or relationships—as we step into seasons ripe with opportunities. It's a discussion that delves deep into the essence of parenthood and the profound influence it has on our every action, bringing with it a call for self-awareness and a dedication to personal evolution.

Host KC Carnage (@iamkccarnage), Aniiya (@aniiiyamusic) and Nadege (@nadege_ndjebayi) 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, one thing that is crazy about parenthood
is that it shapes your life andif you don't work on it.
If you're not like curious, youwill never pay attention.
Here you're a grown personacting just like your parents.
Your wife told you that all thetime just like your dad.
You're just like your daddy.
Because of behavior traumas.

(00:21):
Pass it on.
That's it, that's all.
That's it, that's all.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's it, that's all .
That's it, that's all.
Is that really it, though?
What up, what up, what up?
Y'all Welcome to.
That's it, that's All.
I'm your host, kc, y'allalready know.
And today we got Miss Anaya.
Hey y'all, this is Anaya, howy'all doing.
And we got Nidesh Helloeverybody.

(01:06):
And today, you know, you know,usually I have a bunch of
questions, but I kind of justwanted to have a free flow.
You know, I think that, likewhen I was thinking about what I
wanted to talk about with theseladies today, just based on
what I know about them and thestories they have told me, I
feel like we're in a transitionperiod, a transition period to
our blessings.
So I want to talk about that, Iwant to hear some of their
stories.
And I know Nadege she hailsfrom France, and we got Anaya,

(01:32):
who hails from Houston.
And you know, I'm also in atransitional period.
I'm actually about to move toanother city myself and I want
to talk about transitioning intoyour blessings.
But before I go into that,let's talk about you guys.
Where are you guys from?
What are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
out here in LA.
Yeah, so I am born in Florida,raised in Katy, Texas shout out
Katy in Houston.
That's where I lived in myadult years and when I was
younger.
But what I do?
I'm a singer, songwriter.
I also just started doing vocalproduction for people because I
love the recording process.
It's probably my favorite partabout being an artist, so that's

(02:10):
what I do.
I also am a mother.
I've got a four-year-old, alittle baby.
So yeah, I do a lot.
I do a lot Nadege.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I am Nadege.
Where do we start?
I'm from France Paris, by theway of life, now Los Angeles.
I am a celebrity fitnesstrainer.
I empower women, I think.
Change the world one person ata time so you set me up tonight
so we can talk about it exactlyexactly so let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yes, exactly, exactly so let's talk about our
transitions.
Um, I know for me that you knowI've been in la for about, I
would say, close to 10 years.
Right, and something has beencalling my spirit lately.
I was sitting in my apartment,you know.
I had a big three-bedroomapartment.
I was by myself, me and my cat,like a spencer woman, but you
know that's boy and he keeps mecompany.

(03:06):
So fuck, what y'all got to say.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's it baby.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But I felt, like you know, my spirit was calling me
for something different.
You know, I've done a lot in LAas far as music is concerned,
as far as traveling is concerned, as far as building my show is
concerned, but I also felt, likeyou know, I felt content, like
I felt like I'm in this box andI can't get out.
And in order for me to do that,I have to challenge myself, to

(03:30):
be fearless and move and shake.
And I think that, like, onlyblessings come when there are
new doors open and there's newspace and it was funny because,
in order to do that, I did acouple of things while I was
moving.
That I did a couple of thingswhile I was moving, I did like
an indoor yard sale, becausewhen I started pulling stuff,
out of closets and stuff.
I was like, wow, I got so muchstuff and I had to give myself

(03:54):
grace, like Casey, you've beenhere for like nine years.
Of course you got a whole bunchof stuff.
But in that stuff I was likenone of this stuff serves me so
let's talk about the stuff thatis not serving us.
Right serves me, so let's talkabout the stuff that is not
serving us right.
Um, and how are we moving?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
forward to pushing that out of our lives to allow
new things.
Um, that's where I start tostart the shit.
Okay, men, men, you don't needmen.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Um not in a bad way.
We love, love y'all, we do.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
We, love y'all we do we love the hell out, y'all okay
, but the thing is like I wishyou know if you had one thing
you can do in life.
It's like go talk to like aversion of you that is younger,
who can disturb everything andbe like just be focused yo, just
be focused, focus on you.
I remember my dad.

(04:42):
You know, one thing that iscrazy about parenthood is that
it shapes your life.
And if you don't work on it.
If you're not like curious, youwill never pay attention.
Here you're a grown personacting just like your parents
your wife told you that all thetime Just like your dad.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Just like your daddy.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Because of behavior traumas, pass it on all this
stuff, and so I'm going straightfor it.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Go for it, that's what we're here for the real.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Let's not lose time, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Because I'm crazy.
That's what you say and what isso crazy about parenthood is
that my dad been telling me likefocus on yourself when you're
going to get to this money men'sgoing to be at your door.
I'm seeing my friends.
They have boyfriends, like whatyou're talking to me about.
Right, it's like I'm almostweird because of society.

(05:31):
But then you know I was likeokay, maybe you know that's my
dad.
I love my dad so much.
I'm like maybe I gotta listen alittle bit just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's the question me.
I don't really want to listenI'm like so, do you think so?
So my question was like thingsthat you, um, don't serve you
anymore.
Do you think that you werefocusing on trying to be in a
relationship and it was maybelike stunning you moving forward
in your career goals or yourlife?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
potentially no I just think that, like from like
before zero until you get here,you've been focusing on people
and the likeness and theloveness, looking for love
outside of yourself, first ofall, and looking for the love
that, like daddy is not givingme that love, that, like there's
some missing, I'm gonna get itsomewhere else yeah or some

(06:19):
women don't have daddy and theywill go get the energy somewhere
else, and it goes for everybody.
So it's not to say like wedon't need men in the sense that
we don't need them.
Cause we definitely need y'all,we love y'all.
Okay, uh, don't come for me.
Um, but it's just likeeverybody got a heel on

(06:40):
themselves Women.
That's why I love womenapartment.
so much is like we got to healon ourselves so we can help one
another be in places like thisdo things like that, you know,
and but men's got to do that onthis side too, and sometimes we
might have to be the bridge,yeah, but it's like everybody

(07:00):
got to heal so we can get better.
So, in the midst of like beinga woman because you know my
target is a woman, exactly Focuson yourself.
Okay, how about you, ana?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, I feel like.
So I know, like growing up Ihad a lot of friends.
I was one of those girls with awhole bunch of friends and I
would like throw a party.
I mean, I was just outsidebefore.
That was a thing.
Like seriously, he's out here,I was out here.
But here's the thing, though,like I grew up because I didn't
have my dad growing up liketelling me these things, pumping
these things into me you knowwhat I'm saying.

(07:31):
So, like my mom was a singlemom, so I just kind of like
figured things out, you know,and I think, um, I gravitated
toward a lot of people that Iwanted to help and that I felt
like maybe I could help them orthey needed me in a sense, you
know.
So I think life and God likeisolated me at a very young age.

(07:55):
I graduated high school alittle early and moved, and like
I had isolation and I've had,I've actually been blessed to be
isolated, because being able tobe isolated is a blessing.
It gives you time to focus onyourself.
You see, these things thatdon't serve you.
A lot of the times we don'tserve ourselves too.
You feel me like when we tellourselves, oh we finna do xyz,
and we don't do these things.
Those habits are not servingyou.
So I feel like I learned at ayounger age like there's a lot

(08:17):
of things that aren't serving me.
But let me look and see whatI'm doing that's not serving me,
um, and then, just kind of likegoing along with what she was
saying, I feel like, because Ididn't have, you know, like my
dad, whatever, got daddy issues,whatever.
I think, because of that,though, I was looking for love
you know what I'm saying andlike even getting with my son's
father, like that wholesituation, like my career was

(08:39):
really actually going up, and Iwas like, oh, I think I'm at
this place where I, you know,whatever.
So I just think, um, even whenwe do those things, because
we're human, we can getourselves into situations that
may not serve us, but we have tolike have that foundation
within us.
That's like, at some point wegot to check ourselves, and I

(09:00):
just think people always lookingoutside, who can I check?
Okay, look at you though, right?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
we picking these things right.
No, I always believe that, likeI was, like, one of the things
that I'd like to stick by islike, I do believe that when God
is making you uncomfortable orthings aren't like moving in the
way that you think that itshould be moving it, it means
that it's time for a change,it's time for a transition.
Because whatever, whatever,because, because hard workers

(09:27):
don't fail.
Come on, I believe in that,like, if you're a hard worker,
you got ambition, you are kind,you are moving with intention,
you will not fail.
Yeah, the thing that makes usget kind of like in our heads is
the fact that we have this planright, because people that are
ambitious like I'm a planner,like I got, like I yo, I'm a
whole project manager a lot ofthe times with my type A

(09:48):
personality, and then whensomething does not go in those
in that bracket or in that order, I get my anxiety flares up.
I feel like I'm not doinganything.
I have.
I leak in these self-doubtsabout what am I like?
But I had to stop myself.
I had to stop myself.

(10:08):
I had to really and that's withgrowth, right, you got therapy,
you start talking to yourself,you sit with yourself.
You have these conversationswith yourself and you start to
realize, like wait a minute.
You've accomplished so much byyou negating everything you have
done is a slap into in the faceof your growth.
Take a beat, give yourself sometake a beat like relax relax.
So I go into my life.
So what are some things thatyou guys do to um, calm
yourselves, like really likeground yourselves when you know

(10:31):
that it is time for a change oryou see that your career or like
something personal in your lifeis happening and it may be a
little crazy around you.
What do you guys do personallyto like take a beat and reflect?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, I guess I'll say like for me.
First of all, I've moved awhole bunch of times and I have
done things very off track.
I am very unorthodox and I'mcool with that, and I just won't
let nobody try to tell me oh,you've moved, yes, that's me.
You know I'm cool with that.
So I think that's one thing isjust knowing I'm me and this is

(11:05):
my journey.
Um, that.
And then I think too, like mebeing a mom, that's the most
check, that that checks me,because I can plan oh, my son's
gonna go to bed at this time, henot, he not, he like stuff's
not about to go my way, and Ifeel like that has taught me a
lot in life.
Like I can have this grand plan.

(11:26):
But there's so many things thatI cannot control.
The only thing I can control ishow I respond to these
situations, and I just feel likethat'd be the test, is just
like how are you going to keepresponding?
And then, like, by youresponding in these ways that
are beneficial, I feel like moreblessings come in.
So I'd probably say that justknowing I can't control much

(11:49):
that keeps me calm and grounded.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
That's crazy, because at church Sunday they were just
talking about that and I thinkthey were saying something in
the lines of what you just sayright now about you know, if you
stay like elevated, theelevated things gonna come to
you.
So it's simple, it's not easyfor anything and nobody.

(12:20):
You get here you're like analien.
You don't know what the fuck isgoing on, what the you got to
learn how to walk, how to talk,how to eat, how to poo by
yourself.
So you're not crazy out thereSome of y'all missed the potty
potting training.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
What kind of guys?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, I'm kidding.
Then you got to you know, knowyou absorb all that energy from
your parents and you got tobecome somebody and every day
we're just becoming.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
We're new here you're new here today.
You feel me, in the grandscheme of life, like we really
are so young you, you just gethere.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's crazy, yeah, some 20 years ago you just get
here, so it's like you got tojust breathe.
Ain't nothing better to groundyourself Just like.
Take a minute, one hand, onehand, just feel every you know

(13:20):
piece of air Like mind you, thisis a masterpiece.
That's why I'm a trainer.
I love bodies.
I don't care the size of bodies, I just care for you to be the
beast version of yourself,because then you go with that
mindset she beats talking shityou go with.
That's why she wore the shirt.
She said she was a hole.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
She's the A Look at the guys.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Come on.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
So now you know you can physically.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Physically, there's days where like, oh my God, I'm
only one of my family who leftall the way to America to make
it happen, and it's likesometimes you're like people are
like, oh, influencer andcelebrity trainer and whatever
you know the title that theygive you.

(14:07):
Yeah, it's cool, I lived thedream, for sure.
But like, sometimes, actually,that's the point, you got it.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That's the point.
It's also to likeew, andactually that's the point, you
got it.
That's the point.
It's also, too, like trustingyour journey, right.
We talk about, like you knowwe're so when you're focused and
you have a lot of ambition,right.
I believe in dreams, like I'm abig dreamer.
There's a lot of things thatI've dreamed of.
It was relationships or things,and like deja vu is one of my
best friends, yeah.
Because, like even moving toCalifornia when I first moved

(14:35):
here, I would step on a cornerand feel like I was like, or I
would talk to somebody and belike I know you Like, you know
what.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So it's like trusting your journey because we want to
get to the end goal, because weknow we deserve it right.
But is that not narcissistic tosay, though?
I always think about that,because what makes us more
deserving than the other personwe answer to?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
right, I got one for you right your ancestors come on
your ancestors, absolutely,because how did you get here?
Do you know?
For the last 2000 years, ittook 400 ancestors to make you
400 people who had to survive.
What the hell was going on inthis place.
And this place keep goingcrazier and crazier and crazier
every day.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
So I don't have tv because it's like yeah, it's
wild to the movies, I know whatis coming, I'm gonna get scared,
I'll go back home and that's ityeah like it's not because your
ancestors.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
It took so many people.
You are special.
Getting here is not a race.
All that right thing y'allgotta All your books is not
fully accurate.
I was about to use another word.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I cut myself.
You can cuss.
Huh yeah, you can cuss A bootysheet.
Okay, I heard you cuss threetimes.
Your books are a booty sheet.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
You might want to go and check literally everything
about this place Life, all of it.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
but long story short.
It's like the energy.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Everything is energy and, as the energy is emerging,
for you to come here, it's achoice as a mother of views.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
But life I was going to say too, like to get you here
.
It's not narcissistic, that'swhat the world wants us to think
.
Okay, and there's a Bible verse.
Actually it's called for.
Many are called, but few arechosen.
I have that tattooed on me.
Everybody's called.
I want to see every.
It's gross down up in here.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah which is a funny place to have a bible.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Another show no, it's like everybody is.
In my opinion, everyone ischosen, everybody has a purpose.
But here's the thing everybodyhas roles in life, right oh?
Absolutely there wouldn't be nobasketball game if there wasn't
people in the stands.

(16:42):
You got to have a coach, yougot to have a water boy.
You got to have people, got tohave a starting five.
You got to have everybody in arole.
And let me tell you, the tablesturn, so your role can always
be different it can alwayschange.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
And then also, too, I always believe that if you're
doing somebody else's job, it'sa job not getting done.
Right, come on, because peoplewill be really good at something
.
Right, and not realizing howimportant that their role is to
this vision.
Right, and they see, maybe aperson like, well, take, for
example, we're in music.
Right, how many girl groupshave lasted?
Right, how many girl groupshave lasted?

(17:13):
You might have that one that'sthe lead singer.
They're focusing on that leadsinger, or whatever.
But guess what?
Y'all helped in that vision.
Because, no matter what you maywant to do, something or
somebody will get upset and belike well, y'all cheating her,
so I'm gonna break off and noweverybody's shit fucked up.
You know what I mean.
Like, just because you are apart of the vision, you could
still simultaneously have yourown vision, but you do have to

(17:34):
recognize that everything is ina place, everybody does have a
role, and when that role getsjanked, that's when stuff start
getting weird yeah, but theroles can.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
They can always change in like, to be successful
, you have to have this thinglike, you have to have this
knowing inside of you.
But you also have to like havethis thing like you walk in the
room and I'm like I'm her, Idon't give a fuck who's around,
I'm her.
That don't mean that you're nother either.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
We can all be her, we can all, but just be you,
you're, you, yeah you gotta havethat or you're not gonna be
successful, and that's why Ifeel about, like when I was, um,
uh, deciding what I wanted myshow to be about it was
definitely about black womenspecifically Because you know,
like in many conversations thatwe have or in different groups,

(18:22):
we're having the sameconversation, maybe different
experiences, but the underliningis the same experiences.
And like I met these two ladiesat an event that you threw, you
and Nadia that was so amazing.
And it was literally one of myfavorite events I've been to
this year, and not necessarilybecause like you know what I
mean.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I met you.
Yeah, we all met each otherthere, and it was the energy
like you talk about.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It was the energy.
It was about being in spaceswith like intentional and being
around like-minded individualslike I, gained so much and came
out with some great friendshipsand people that I, you know,
like that, I definitely wouldwant to talk and know more about
.
And so, just like I was, like,I definitely want to have you on
the show, because that's whatwe're about.
We're all here for a purpose.

(19:05):
You have your own platform.
You have your own platform andhow we grow, you know, and we're
talking about our transitioningto our blessings.
Right, there is a tribe thatsaying is real it takes a tribe.
You cannot do it by yourself.
You may think and you may wantto do it by yourself, but
literally you cannot, becauseyou can't do all the jobs,
you'll burn and you'll burnyourself that's why I say away

(19:27):
from the people who tattooself-made stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I'm like self-made is fake.
I think that's the silliestphrase, because it's not crazy
because like first, becausefirst of all you did not get
here, but did you walk out?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
like Kirikou out the belly walking and talking yeah
you did, you know so you know,I'm so first of all, I'm so
grateful.
Thank you so much.
I'm like yes what was the nameof the?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
event again.
Nadege, I know you guys do itevery year.
Yes, it was a femaleempowerment.
Did it have anything else?
What's the specific title?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
so uh, because woman empowerment is really what I
exude today.
You can see, you know, I canwhistle, style and stuff.
My stylist is a woman, my nailsis a woman, my jeweler is a
woman, my dentist is a woman,yeah my waist beads are women
and, thanks to rihanna, myunderwear too, chinese.

(20:19):
I'm sorry for now, I don't knowbut it's her idea, yeah you
feel.
You feel me.
So it's like I'm deep down intoit, like I come from a lack of
woman empowerment that broughtlack of mother empowerment.
I grew up with a mother that wasnot like mentally here, just

(20:41):
physically as a grown woman,mentally still as a young hurt
woman so I grew up with a grownmother, sister.
You can't have two captains ina boat, but you're my friend,
but you're my mother, so it'slike you grow up.
I grew up very like, uh,surrounded by my cousin, my dad.

(21:05):
So it's like, it's very like,more like masculine yeah, it's
like if you're two women, it'sthe hood okay, so it might just
be a hole, so it it's like staycool you know, but I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
you said the thing like when you go up around the
lack of like that superwoman,feminine, divine, whatever, you
have to shy away from it alittle, but it took me to learn,
to understand, to work onmyself, to search.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Why am I behaving like this?
Because I love my dad.
I love him, but I did my workand you also can do his work.
You don't see it?
I do, we human, I love you, butlike, oh my god, but it's like
you don't know better.
But nowadays, ain't nobody gotno excuses, because tell me why
you got access to everything inless than two seconds, all kinds

(21:54):
of AIs that can do anythingwith you.
So you know what?
Find the why you are feelinglike the beast inside.
And that's why I always connectit all the time and I will
always connect it back tofitness, because it's like what
you take in the gym is what youtake outside.
Some of my clients they're likeI can't, no more, I can't, no
more.
I'm like okay, so this role?

(22:23):
Like I can't no more, I can nomore.
I'm like okay, so this role,you can't have it.
You can't no more.
I'm putting the stuff in yourperspective now.
Would you just like not gobecause the line is long for the
audition?
Are you gonna sit down and wait?
You're gonna sit down and wait,right?
I?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
need to go, I need to get in a jail, you know so it's
like that same anger thatsometimes we're gonna get angry.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You can turn up and a tiny bitty woman can throw up a
whole house.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Use that same energy now I feel that I feel that I
also believe in the aspectthat's, like you know, the the
same work hard, play hard, right.
Like you know, we have ournights when we probably out a
little later than we supposed tobe.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Last night I was out Right.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
And we got something to do in the morning.
But I made a promise, and itwas one of the things that I
think was one of the bestself-promises I made to myself
was that no matter if I decideto party and I have an
obligation, I have to make thatobligation.
There's times I rolled out ofbed, you know, at 6 am, because

(23:20):
I'm a 5 am 6 am waker upper,like I'm.
That's, that's my time frame.
I like to start before thesun's get up.
I can you know I don't have torush out the way and it don't
matter what time I go to bed,like it don't matter, because I
feel like, in order to be ableto enjoy, you also have a level
of discipline that you have todo.
You also have to get otherstuff done, and I think where

(23:41):
the disconnect is that peoplethey either work too much or
they party too much, and whenthere's a scale that's
unbalanced, something's gonnafall.
So let's talk about, likebalancing lives right, like
we're talking about balancingyour lives like that, that, that
, that work, that work, what'scalled a work life balance.
Right, we're all in our careers, we all have our platforms, but

(24:01):
like, what do you guys do to?
Like, like, how do you guysbalance yourself?
Like what do y'all do as far asum, when you feel like maybe
work is too much and I'm I'mlosing time with my family and
friends, or like I'm doing toomuch here, but like something
isn't getting done over here?
Like how, what would yousuggest?
Or how do you guys go aboutlike kind of making that scale?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
yeah, balance is like actually one of my favorite
words.
I actually have the yin andyang tattooed on me because I
feel like that's like the mostimportant, one of the most
important words for me.
Um, I just I feel like I havelearned over time.
Everything is good inmoderation, you know.
So moderating things there'snot, you know, if you want to go

(24:47):
out, you want to be outside,okay, cool.
Just make sure it's moderatedand it's intentional, you know,
um, I think intent helps withbalance, because if you have
some kind of intent behind whatyou're doing, it's easier to
balance things.
But I just also know andactually heard somebody me and
my brother sent like the samevideo to each other like the
same day and it was talkingabout this guy and he was just
like when you're striving foryour goals, stuff ain't going to

(25:09):
be balanced.
It's just not possible to havethis fully balanced life and
you're trying to achieve somethings.
So I just feel like going backto just giving yourself grace
and mercy, like I just givemyself a lot of grace and a lot
of mercy because at the end ofthe day, I'm a mom.
No matter what time I go out, Igotta be up every morning,
gotta wake my kid up, gotta, youknow, just finish with the

(25:31):
potty training situation itselfgotta feed him breakfast, pack
his lunch, take him to school,come home, go to work, work all
day, do music stuff in between.
Once I'm done, pick him up, puthim to bed after that, do
whatever I need to do like I'mhere.
So it's just never gonna belike this utopia, um.
But I think, yeah, just likeunderstanding that it's never

(25:51):
gonna be a utopia until youreally get to that space where
you feel like it can be like.
Right now, the goal is to justrun it up, um, so that I can get
to that space where you feellike it can be Like.
Right now, the goal is to justrun it up, so that I can get to
that space where I can hirethese people to do these things,
and then maybe I can balancesomething.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
But right now, this is where we're at.
Just assess where you're at.
No, I feel you about the intentright, because, like so, you
know we have our stages in life,right, and when you're younger
you have less responsibility.
So you can kind of lean thisway.
Yeah, when you're getting older,you start to lean this way

(26:28):
Because it was like okay, now Ihave to play on this.
When you get to a point whereyou are clear minded and you
really have goals and you haveactually mapped those goals.
Like Erica said, if you don'twrite it down, it ain't going to
go in my life.
I don't care about my phonetexting notes.
I have a journal.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I've had a journal since I was five years old.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'm a journal kind of girl too.
I have to write it down becauseI feel like once you put it in
your mind and you put it throughyour body, then you know what
to do.
It flows through you.
So, with that being said, said,it's a thing for me where it's
like you know, you got to alsochoose with intent which one
needs more priority.
Right, because even though thebalance can be 50, 50 here, but

(27:04):
maybe for these three monthsthis needs to be 85, 23, 30 for
that period and then it canshift.
So I think that like identifyingwhen, when something needs more
attention is also a balance aswell, and people want it to be
like well, uh no, it's notalways a tug of war.
It's knowing what needs themost attention in this time
period and having thewherewithal to know okay, that

(27:27):
task got accomplished, now wecan go back to you, because some
people don't have that.
It's like those workaholicsthat just shut everybody out in
the world.
They're not mentally healthy aswell.
You just like shut everybodyout in the world, like they're
not mentally healthy as well.
You know you got two peoplethat are partying all the time.
They're not mentally healthy aswell, because that scale has
never been, you know, kind oflike uh, what's the call?
What do you call it?
Uh, what's the word for it?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
uh, I know what you're talking about it's uh
recalibrate yeah, recalibrate itright.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
The scale has never been recalibrated, so they
haven't got a chance to figureout, like and that's when all
the cloudiness and anxiety comesup, right, because your mind is
like I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to do, solike for me, I think that, like
identifying when certain thingsneed more time than others and
being able to come back is how Ican, kind of like, keep myself

(28:12):
level and I think people'sopinions too kind of can play
into it.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Um, I know I told my mom the other day she was just
like I think you're just doing alot right now, anaya, like
you're just you're doing toomuch, and I said, mom, it's
finna get worse, okay this isjust the beginning.
This shit is so just watch andsee, but a lot of people don't
take them risk, and I love mymom with everything in me,
that's my best friend but shealso also didn't.

(28:37):
I'm doing a lot, and I thinkthere's a lot of people right
now doing a lot, which isbeautiful, but that's going to
look different to everybody andit's going to look different to
people that aren't doing a lot,which is okay if that's your
life, but it's just like thesethings have to get done.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And I just think like kind of shutting out people's
opinions of what they think yourshit should look like helps you
?
I don't know.
For me it does, because I'mjust gonna jump on this one, and
the thing I love to say is yougotta be the change that you
want to see.
It's that simple peoplesometimes are like oh my god,
the world, the world, the world.
Yeah, the world can be utopia.
It's really not thatcomplicated.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's like it can.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
It, can it literally, can it, can.
You got to be the change thatyou want to see.
So you want to see better menin this place.
Guess, who brought the men?
Not the bird, not the damnlettuce.
They don't fell from the skyand they still not be made by
the machine.
So woman, okay, fell from thesky and this will not be made by
the machine.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
So woman, okay, well, okay.
So I like to talk about.
You know, we all have threedifferent platforms right,
you're in music.
You're in fitness, I'm inbroadcasting and also music as
well.
Um, what, what do we like?
At least that be the changethat you want to be right.
What do you think that you wantto do?
That you want to see changethat you want to see change that
?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
you want to be, whoever you need to be.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Do it, say it and come see me.
How have you guys been usingyour platforms to exude that
message that you guys have been,you know, talking about?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
um, I just think with everything in my body, like
when I walk into a room, you'regoing to feel the energy.
I'm going to give you a hug,I'm going to look you in the
eyes, I'm going to speak toeverybody.
That's little stuff, you knowwhat I'm saying.
Like with my son.
My son says affirmations.
He's four, he's a black man.
I kiss my son, I hug him andkiss him all day, tell him I

(30:33):
love him a million times a day.
He ain't finna have that void,because a lot of these men out
here their mamas didn't hug themand now they got a void and
they looking for that in womenthat they're not finna find.
So that's the change, becauseI'm doing that with my black son
.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, it's just little stuff, youknow.
Like even talking about stuffthat I do when I do my little
videos, or I'm talking aboutmotivational things, like I just

(30:54):
think that the world, we're allvery similar and people want to
be so different, so bad.
Like, yeah, we're different,but we're all very similar and
we all really go through a lot.
We're human, everybody's goingthrough the human experience so
I just think being transparentallows us and that's why we have
these gifts like fitness andmusic and broadcasting.
These gifts are not our purpose, they're tools.

(31:16):
Our purpose is to change theworld based off of the things we
do.
So I just think, being the bestversion of ourselves, that's
what has these younger girls andyou know me too like I'm a
grown woman.
You know I enjoy myself.
Clearly, I got a job.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know, but I'm not that thing not no more you know
, not, no more.
We're cool we good.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
But I just say too, like I can be sensual and I can
be my, I can be a grown woman,but I can also be intentional.
It's a great word about what Isay and how I say it.
Because there are youngerpeople watching.
That don't mean I can't be meRight.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
you don't mean that you can't say what you want to
say.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I can be me, but it's ways to do it.
I got a 10-year-old niecethat's my girl and she looks.
She sees you ain't finna becatching me.
Come on, it's only going to goso far, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Read between the name .

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I was like what were you going?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
to say oh my God, the Jamaican singer.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Rihanna Shinsie.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
No, no, no, From back in the day, wizard of the
Galaxy.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Bob Marley how.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I just forget his name.
Okay, this is the thing I'mgetting on social.
I'm saying she's not a woman Is?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
it Shinzi.
How do you say it so, bobMarley, shinzia.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Shinzia Shinzia, oh, I love her, but no, bob Marley.
So Bob Marley was and if youlook for like, the bigger the
name, the bigger the touch onthe people, the more.

(33:07):
It's just like these peoplehave been taking bullets, taking
assault, taking like the peoplebeing the opinion, being
against, you being a target.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's what this is putting yourself on a platform,
here we go On the chopping block.
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
And just for the great of it all To be like
listen.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Hey, because somebody got to do it Like you said we
got to play the role now,everybody has come and not
everybody's chosen right.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
And the thing is like , it's not even that hard.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Everybody can do it, you just gotta want it but also,
too, you gotta want it, butalso be fearless about it,
because that's the tough partyeah keeps a lot of people and
that's why we go to the gym andthat's why we got to the gym.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
So we get fearless, so you just feel it.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I need to get in there, okay, okay, well you know
I enjoyed having thisconversation with you guys,
because I do believe that, likeyou know, recognizing your
blessings, transitioning intothem and doing whatever you can
to the best of your ability tonot block your blessings,
because we can do that.
Whether it's listening to otherpeople's opinion, like it's so

(34:14):
funny because in me moving, likeit was kind of an abrupt,
abrupt, like I just woke up oneday, it's like I'm moving, yeah,
so like I've had people callingme what are you doing, are you?
My aunt is like call me andit's just certain people that I
will not talk to right now andit's, yeah, I just won't do it
and it's nothing against them.
It's that like I've made adecision and I and I'm aware

(34:36):
that there are certain peopleout of concern or out of love
Well, Ashley, I don't reallyquestion or out of their fear.
Well, I see so many questions ortry those like.
I was like and I was talking tomy uncle, I was just like I
Don't want to answer anybody'squestions.
I want a friend of his sent mea message.
It was like she asked me well,what's your intention?
I'm like lady.
I had a like and kept itpushing.

(34:57):
She told my uncle.
She was like yeah, I asked herthese questions and she didn't
even reply.
She just hit a like I saidbecause I'm not in a season of
answering anybody's questionsright now.
You know, because I have a goalthat I'm trying to reach and I

(35:19):
do believe that who you speakyour dreams to, who you tell
your plans to, can definitelytake you off of your path.
So when you are, when you haveconviction about something you
need to do, I'm not saying holdit, I'm not saying that you
don't need to, but beintentional who you speak these
words to, because that oneperson that you love and have so
much respect for can reallythrow you off your game.
Very true.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Unknowingly, honey, you want me to talk to you about
it, honey somebody who justlike took me down the stairs.
But yeah, that's, very true,it's so real, but once again,
it's just like it's a littleloop.
It goes around.

(35:55):
Because why?
Because of your insecurity, ofyour fear of your not loving
yourself to the fullest, notbeing the beast again, a version
of yourself.
Sometimes it's like it's justso simple.
It's just like you got to findthat beast inside.
Yeah, you got to go, you got topuck.
It's not fun.

(36:15):
You gotta go.
You gotta puck.
It's not fun.
You gotta a little bit.
You gotta growl back.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Oh my get that growl back, Get the growl back, but
she riled about this one.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
You gotta just jump on it, it's like you know, like
the movie Avatar, like you gottago pluck that shit, because if
you don't, do that, you're gonnago left anyway.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
No disrespect.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, you're gonna be projecting, you're gonna be
projecting on everybody what youthink is going on.
Because of trauma, because youdon't want to stop break the
generational curse, they won'ttalk about it.
They think it's money, it'senergy.
Y'all see me energy, all rightwell there you go.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, thank y'all for so much for coming and talking
to me the things that I like todo.
I always, at the end of my show, like to leave a message.
Um.
So, whether you want to leaveit to your younger self or the
people out there in the world,um, what would you say to them
when it comes down to likereally protecting your peace,
not blocking your, yourblessings, and transitioning

(37:21):
into your blessing in yourhighest form?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
I would say to my younger self and to everybody
give yourself grace, be honestwith yourself and just
understand that we have one lifeand, yeah, mistakes can be
fixed, but the goal is to growand to minimize those and then
just be transparent.
I think the more we share withother people, not only do we

(37:47):
fulfill others, but thatfulfills ourselves.
So just give yourself grace andif you're a young woman
watching this, focus on yourshit and boss up and I don't
want to say these niggas, butthese men, they're going to be
here, they're going to be here.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
They ain't going nowhere.
And please, men, y'all too, gofocus and men y'all focus on
y'all self too.
These ladies, they ain't goingnowhere.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
They're always going to be, here, Is it the?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
ratio that it's like more men to women?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I don't know.
It changes every year.
It's four for one.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
for what I heard, it changes every year Because, like
one year, it's all girls isbeing born, and then the next
year it's all boys being born.
I don't fluctuate.
How about you, nadia?
What would you say to thepeople?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I would say to the people you know how we are like,
so gentle and so nurturing,when the baby come out, you're
the baby, so you got to benurturing your energy.
The energy of you is the baby,so you got to be nurturing of
the baby.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I like where you went with.
That I know because I was likeI said baby.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
And then I was like okay, okay, okay, you brought
that back around.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
She took it she took it, she took it, she took it.
I was like okay, so we thebabies, we the babies, we the
mamas of ourselves.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, you're the energy.
Now you're present, you haveyour ancestor, you're going to
become ancestor.
What kind of ancestor do youwant to be?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
No, I was just going to say that you're such a
blessing and I really appreciateyou.
I know we just met not thatlong ago, but your energy is
crazy.
You are a beautiful black woman, yes, and I'm just, I'm proud
of you, I support you and ohthank you.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I appreciate it and I know that.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
They don't say it often and mothers feel very like
Left out.
You are seen.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
You are seen.
Thank you, guys.
Mommies, you got an importantjob Raising our black boys.
What you got just human, thewhole thing, is crazy.
So keep that part.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I said we love you we love you and I appreciate and
see.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's why these events are here for that's why I
do what I do, so we can exactlyconnect.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I love it well y'all again.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Thank you, anaya for coming on the show.
Thank you for having having me.
Thank you, nadège.
If you guys want to join in theconversation, you guys, any
questions for these lovelyladies?
You can look them up on theirown platforms.
They always got some greatthings to say.
Their energy is tight.
Please don't hesitate to like,subscribe, share, do all the
things and that's it.

(40:13):
That's all.
That's it.
That's all.
That's it.
That's all is written by me,casey Carnage, and produced by
myself and Rick Barrio-Dill.
Associate producer Brie Corey.
Assistant producer LarissaDonahoe, audio and video
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