October 29, 2024 • 37 mins
What if you could transform a mishap into a million-dollar idea? This episode celebrates resilience and creativity as we highlight the journeys of Shacora and Zhavea, two incredible black women redefining success in the business world. Shakura, the powerhouse behind Royal Habits Clothing, shares her evolution from the entertainment industry to crafting a luxury urban brand in Los Angeles, emphasizing a commitment to quality and custom designs. Javier, on the other hand, recounts how an unexpected incident during a music video shoot led to the birth of her thriving natural hair care line, Javier Collection, showcasing the strength of turning adversity into opportunity.
Host KC Carnage (@iamkccarnage), Shacora (@iamshacora) and Zhavea (@zhavea)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The age of sisterhood is upon us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I believe in that.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
There's no more of that.
They want to pretend that we'rebashing each other, but we're
really not.
And everybody's in competition?
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
They're always in competition.
Which I love about ourfriendship is that even when I
wasn't selling, or vice versa,we always were there with each
other.
Just to help to support,because it's not really about
competition at the end the endof day.
So that's what kind of helpedus be like hey, we need to do
our own thing, like because it'sco-elevating you know, yeah,
(00:40):
black excellence at its finest.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
How that skin glows, she's a true diamond, with the
world right out back, she'sstill smiling, never left that
crown till she stayed thriving.
That's it, that's all.
That's it.
That's all.
That's it, that's all, that'sit, that's all.
Is that really it, though?
What up, what up?
(01:02):
What up?
Welcome to.
That's it, that's All.
I'm your host, kasey Carnage,but y'all know me.
Today we have some lovely,lovely ladies on the couch.
We got my girl, shakura, hey,and Javier, hey, and they're
going to talk about what theygot going on, and, as you know,
this podcast is abouthighlighting black women through
our voices, through our lens,through the things that we're
(01:23):
doing, how we're showing up inthe world and how we're helping
the world, and they have someamazing things going on.
We're going to talk about theirindividual businesses, but
we're also going to talk aboutthe Harmony Utopia Fest, which I
think is going to be amazing,and I'm excited and we ready.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So what's up, girls?
So first off, my name isShakora, as you guys just heard
her say, and I do have aclothing brand, royal Habits
Clothing.
I do a lot of customs.
You know I'm from the EastCoast originally.
I moved to LA about East Coastgirl.
I know I moved to LA about fiveyears ago, like basically just
to trace my dream.
Like everybody else, I wasdoing music, acting the whole
(02:03):
nine yards.
But then once the pandemic hit,I kind of did a reset and I'm
like let me focus on myrebranding with my clothing
brand, because when you'recreative, like, it just comes
from everywhere, whether it'smusic, clothes, whatever the
case may be, like I was justlike I need to get in tune with
creating.
So I got back on my clothingbrand and I started doing
pop-ups.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And what would you describe your clothing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I would say it's like a luxury urban brand.
You know what I mean Urban chic.
Yeah, you can say urban chic, Ilike.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean the reason why I'm calling it chic is I've
seen it and I've seen yourmodels that you have and it's
definitely giving like.
It's giving runway, it's givingthat urban vibe, so we put in
the universe as well.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, I receive that, Okay For sure.
So I'm big on quality, like Iwould not sell something that I
wouldn't wear myself, and I lovedoing customs.
But it's just harder to docustoms because it's like you're
dealing with different sizes,different people and now that
I'm doing other things it's justa little bit more difficult to
own in on, like just doingone-to-one pieces for everyone.
(03:07):
So a lot of people like theone-to-one pieces but I have to
make things for the masses rightnow because I have so many
different things going on.
But DM us so we can still do acustom two weeks ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Like not going to turn down any.
You know how about you Jah?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Okay.
So how about you, Jav?
Okay so, hey guys, Javier, I'mactually first to record an
artist.
I've been doing music since2011.
So a little bit about me.
I was doing a lot of touringoverseas in Jamaica, Grenada,
where my family's from Trinidad,different places like that and
I was doing a music video calledGimme that Love featuring
(03:44):
Beanie man.
That's one of my biggest hitsand it's a really funny story.
So, basically, they weresupposed to wet my hair.
I have naturally curly hair andI have the braids in today, but
naturally curly hair and I havebleach in my hair.
They were supposed to wet myhair with water and they wet it
with alcohol and my hair juststarted coming out for weeks and
(04:06):
things like that because ofhumidity and things like that.
So I was devastated and I thinkthey did it on purpose.
So that's number one.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Another story for another time, that's another day
, but that's a short version.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So I was very devastated.
I was trying different thingsand my family they told me about
this secret ingredient thatthey would use to help your hair
grow.
So I used that plus put otherthings in it and my hair started
to grow back.
So that created JavierCollection.
I actually have one of mybottles with me right now.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yes, oh, show me the bottle.
I love when people bring things.
Yes, girl, bring all the thingsso like.
Fortunately your business cameout of it, but unfortunately
people need to stop hating yeah,so this is the first thing I
made so you can smell.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It smells pretty good .
It has all natural ingredients.
You can have it make your hair,y'all it smells mad good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It smells mad good, it smells so good.
So like this is for like scalp.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, so it helps your hair grow really, really
quickly, like pre-poo sitch orit's like every day so usually I
do it every other day, she'sgoing to zoom in y'all.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
There she goes.
Oh, it smells so good.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Usually I do it every other day.
You just put it on your scalp,massage it you don't have to put
that much and you'll startseeing results.
People some of my customersalopecia and things like that in
their hair has been growing.
So yeah, I'm going to try it.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I got these braids in there I can put my old braids
in there.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yes, put on your braids, girl.
We all have the braids, I loveit.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I know we're all matching.
Okay, we go through.
There's a lot of things thatchallenge, especially as a
business owner, as somebodywho's running their own business
or somebody that is runningtheir own career.
Right, Because what are some ofthe challenges you guys have
faced and how have you overcomethem?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, for starters, when I get emails, it's always
there, sir, for some reason,like yeah, always.
That's crazy.
I don't know why.
Because, like my brand isactually like unisex.
So I don't know why, because,like my brand is actually like
unisex, so I don't know ifthat's why that another
impression that it's a malerunning it or whatnot.
So I just feel like as being afemale period.
It's hard for us, you know.
So, for starters, when Istarted my first collection out
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in LA, I got a new manufacturerGirl.
It took me like almost twoyears to get my merchandise from
him.
Like, after you know, I've paideverything, I have to pretty
much harass him.
I had to pretty much get afriend go up there with me, like
who was a male, and I had mystuff the next day.
So I was just like it'sdifficult being a woman, you
know what I'm saying.
Like you know they'll try you,opposed to like if you were a
(06:44):
man, it's like no, oh, next week, come by next week.
You know what I mean.
So, like, I feel like justbeing a female in the business
world it could be tough.
You know it's not always easy.
How about you?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I definitely agree with that Because even just like
us looking, for example, like amarketing agent, you already
know what happened.
This an agent, you already knowwhat happened.
Yeah, this guy, he came up tome.
He's like, oh, I'm gonna helpmarket your stuff.
And next thing I know he's inmy text saying dirty stuff to me
and I'm just like oh the dirtystuff.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He said girl, it was just so random, like oh he
basically was like what did hesay?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
again, he said something along the lines like
oh um, I have something to tellyou.
And I was like what?
And he was like oh uh, I wantto to see how you taste, or some
shit like that.
I can't even remember, but itwas along the lines of that and.
I was like like we were supposedto have a meeting, like about
marketing my stuff.
So that's one thing.
You know, we also have done alot of like pop ups and stuff
(07:38):
like that.
It's always some creep and it'sjust a lot.
You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I had a friend I actually had a lawyer friend
tell me that, as a woman, eventhough we shouldn't have to do
this, when we go to thesemeetings or we set up these
meetings, we should always havea male with us, not to speak for
us, but the fact that it's aprotection thing.
Yeah, for sure Because a lot oftimes you think especially,
think like, especially like youknow, you know we carry
(08:02):
ourselves the way we carry us.
Nobody should have to like, uh,move differently than what
they're already moving right andsometimes it's very
disheartening when you feel likesomebody is like seeing you and
like really out here to cheeryou and you support you and you
get there and they got ulteriormotives you know it's it's sad,
it's which happens all the time,all the time time.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah, All the time .
It's sick.
I call it pretty girl syndrome.
I'm telling you it's prettygirl syndrome.
We can't win.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So we out here winning.
I'm just joking.
Okay, so you guys do a lot ofpop-up events, right?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You guys are vendors.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I've been to one of your shows that you're vending.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
How did you guys decided I want to be in a so I
originally, when I startedrebranding, like I said, I was
an artist as well.
Um, before I started with mybrand, but I've also.
You know, when you're an artistyou are your brand.
So it kind of went hand in hand.
But when the pandemic came, Istopped doing music and I just
focused on the brand.
So what I did was I decided torebrand because I've been out
(09:01):
for a while but I wanted to makesure that everybody knew who
RHC was.
So I did pop-ups in New York,rhode Island, atlanta, arizona,
like you name it.
I decided to do like I think itwas like an eight city tour
where I did pop-up shops inevery city.
So after I finished that, Idecided to just focus on LA,
because I hadn't did any in LAyet.
So then I started doing like alot of like something dope to do
(09:25):
for the women you knowup-and-coming small vending
events and stuff like that.
And basically what I startedrealizing as I started trying to
do like the bigger venues Blackon the Block or Hot Water,
cornbread, some of the you knowbigger establishments is like as
a small business, you'respending a lot of money.
So like you kind of expect to,like you know, make something.
(09:47):
You know one or two salessomething, and I feel like as
much money as you spend as avendor.
You know what I mean.
Like it wasn't marketed, itwasn't really catered to the
vendors so much.
What do you mean by that?
What do you think it wascatered to?
So I just think like I don'twant to put something into the
universe but I just feel like,for example, we do it like I do
(10:08):
events now, because I was avendor before and I felt like,
ok, I'm paying so much money tobe a vendor and I'm not making
any money.
So now what I do with my eventsis that I charge the vendors
basically barely anything.
You know what I mean.
So basically I'm like OK, evenif you come and you don don't
make a lot of money, you didn'treally lose anything and you got
your brand out there, you gotyour name out there.
(10:29):
We also market the vendors onevery single thing we do.
Like they have a placement onour page, like you can go and
follow them, even if it's weeksor months after the event that
they did.
If you're looking for them,you'll still be able to find
them.
So they'll always, always belisted on our page, opposed to
like sometimes I pay like $400to be a vendor and I wasn't even
listed on the page and thenwhen I got there, I had to set
(10:50):
up all the way in the back.
People don't even know I'm backthere.
So it was just like you know,like I'm not, we're like me
personally with with the eventswe throw now.
We're not in it for the money.
We're in it to bring thecreatives together.
So, like, even as an artistI've paid to perform sometimes
and I get there there's noproducers that I can work with,
there's no one looking for thevision, looking for fresh
artists, you know, there's noone giving positive advice and
(11:12):
feedback on my performance, theX, y and Z.
So we're basically trying tobring the whole community
together where everybody isgetting help, like it's
benefiting everybody, not justlike the people throwing it
together or just have you hadthe same kind of experiences
yeah, so I she actually inspiredme to start the pop-ups because
before I was just sellingonline, like again, like I said,
(11:32):
with the hair growth serum, Ihave a whole line.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now I have different shampoos, conditioners and also
it's 100% vegan.
So I actually started sellingmy stuff in 2020 because, again,
pandemic, nothing to do, kindof stopped the music also as
well, like her.
So, with that being said, shewas going to different places
and what was that?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
last year or year before I don't remember yeah it
was like last year, the lastcouple years and actually like,
yeah, it was last year.
Right, we went to Atlanta,right, we're forgetting this.
2024 I know, I'm just like waita minute, it was, it was just
2020.
Yesterday, yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So she went to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I came with her, you know, to support she had her
ROTC there and we went to Also,just to chime in, like even the
ones that I was doing out ofstate, I always usually get like
two local artists that come outperform for free.
I usually get free food, drinks, because it's about the
community.
So I want you guys to come in,learn about the brand, vibe with
us, enjoy us.
You know what I mean.
(12:28):
So it was basically like amarketing strategy and we ended
up doing one together in Arizona, which did really well.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Which did really well .
So then I was like hmm, youknow, I started applying to
things like Black Flea andthings like that.
So I did a couple of the biggerevents, but then we found out
the malls had opportunities todo pop-ups also.
So we're always together doingthis, like we will set up
together, you know, help eachother out because we only had
each other, because we didn'thave nobody else.
(12:52):
So, thank god, I'm I'm thankfulfor you, because at that point
we were just thinking aboutthough like that's what it's
about.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Like I feel like the here's the thing we can't do.
Do it by ourselves, right?
No, we want to believe we cando it by ourselves.
We want to act like everythingis on our shoulders and we can
create everything, but when youfind really genuine people that
really believe in your visionand see your vision, it really
means more than anything.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So, it's good that you guys have, you know, a
partner and you guys can do that, because and also too, I think
that it's important that youngergirls can see that Of course,
Like you know what I mean.
Like the age of sisterhood isupon us, right yeah, I agree, I
believe in that.
There's no more of that.
Like they want to pretend thatwe're bashing each other, but
we're really not.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And everybody's in competition.
Not at all, not at all.
They're always in competition.
Which I love about ourfriendship is that even when I
wasn't selling, or vice versa,we always were there with each
other just to help, to support,because it's not really about
competition at the end of theday.
So that's what kind of helpedus be like, hey, we need to do
our own thing Because it'sco-elevating right, it's
(13:59):
co-elevating, so come up withthat idea.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I want to know how you guys came up with the name,
because I was just like I'm inEthiopia, because it's kind of
like, kind of the same, but not.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, so first, like, where do we start?
All right, so first off, wecame up with the whole idea
because, like she said, weactually started doing mall, the
mall events or whatever.
Now, the mall events were verystressful.
So, like, let me tell you, ourbacks were hurting.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It was so crazy.
I'm like there's so manystories Like where do I start?
Crazy people.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We can both give you guys like a quick stalker story.
Okay, so you're in the mall forhours at a time, right, doing
these events.
You're basically in it for damnnear like 12 hours at a time.
You're vending, you're sellingstuff.
Now, in the midst of it, you'regetting all type of strange
people walking around you.
You know a man that would justwalk past you and just directly
(14:57):
follow you, like, and they'll bestill walking, follow you.
Men with their girls juststaring, following you, whatever
.
So, um, as a business owner,it's like okay, hi, like, yeah,
I want you to buy this shirt.
Hey, thank you, you know I'msaying so.
It's just like when they comeover, oh, what's this?
You know you're going toentertain it because you're
trying to sell something, butafter a while it's just like so
me, okay, I'm from New York.
So the thing about being fromNew York is that you learn at a
(15:20):
very young age if a guy asks youfor their even like, don't even
give them a fake number.
Give them the real number,because they'll call you right
then and there and be like oh,you'll get cursed out.
They'll be mad you could havejust told me no, like it would
be a whole thing.
So you know, as I'm doing theseevents, like she always tells
me, like why do you give outyour?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
real number.
I'm like, like I said, but thisone time Marketing tactic, she
knows she doing it.
You know what that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
was the last time I gave out my number though,
because I'm just like okay,whatever.
So I give my number out, thisguy's calling, he sends me a
text message, but I'm busy.
I got a lot of things going on.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't have time to answerlike on your terms.
So, long story short, I got alittle free time and she just so
happened to be with me because,like, I'm planning other stuff.
(16:17):
So I'm like, oh, I met this guyat the mall.
I think we can use him for this.
So I'm like, let me plug inwith him, so I give him a call
or whatever.
How are you?
Oh, like, it was just so crazy,it was like a demon on the
other side of the phone Girl.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It was so weird, it was so crazy, it was so weird,
honestly like.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm very outspoken and stuff, so if it scared me,
like we know that's a problem.
So I thought if I was speakingnow, like he's just getting
crazy on the phone, he's like,oh, I can't even really remember
, but he was just like so rudeand nasty on the phone.
Oh, people make time for thethings that they want.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
She just met him three days ago Talking about I'm
a kid you're going to miss out.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So it was just so crazy because he was just like
oh, people make time for thethings that they want.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You can't be that me.
He doesn't even know me, so.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I'm like.
So now I put on my you know,professional voice.
I'm like you know what.
I'm so sorry.
I was like I'm really not.
I was like I'm really not aconfrontational person.
Oh, you're going to be alone.
For the rest, just like he hityou with a baby girl yes, oh, he
was so real he was so mad um, Iwas like okay, you have a
(17:32):
blessed day.
God bless you, right, girl.
He started sending me selfiesof himself.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Selfies now I know this is.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
This is like really out of like the norm.
But, like I said, you know, Idon't really date that much in
la, like you know what I'msaying.
So a while back, when I wastalking to a guy in la like all
day he would send me selfies, soI I was like is that an LA
thing?
Like I know that's off topic,but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
To be honest with you the LA date, and that's another
topic.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Y'all can go check it out on YouTube?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, but we definitely talk about it Tell us
what episode girl because Ineed to look that one up.
No, it's literally the funniestepisode, because it's crazy,
but yeah girl like la dating hasbeen it's been a strange
Speaker 2 (18:18):
place.
Like men are strange, it was Iwas scared.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm not like before we get too off topic.
So you guys were doing thesemall events and you guys were
talking about creating thisevent.
Okay, the Utopia.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So what happened was one day at the mall or whatever.
It was actually the day when Iwas like this is my last time
doing the mall event.
I can't like it's just too much.
Like the hassle, the stalkers,everything.
So, long story short, I endedup losing like a piece to one of
my racks that I needed and Iwent around to different vendors
, asked them like, oh, do youhave like an Allen key or
whatever?
And it just so happened likethis white man who was coming to
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help his daughter set up hadone in his truck or something
like that, so he ended upbringing it back.
And then, you know, he justbasically asked me like did I
know anyone who would beinterested in vending and also
like planning an event that theyhad at a state, like somewhere
in a what?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
was it Box Canyon, box Canyon.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So it was like, basically, I want to say it was
like a state, but it was like aI don't know.
It gave like Coachella vibes.
You know what I mean.
So you know I agreed to do it.
You know what I'm saying.
Like me and her legit followedup with him the next day, you
know, linked up with him and hisbusiness partner.
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So that's basically how theHarmony Utopia Fest came about,
because we got presented with anopportunity to throw events for
another establishment, someinvestors, a different group of
people, and it didn't work out.
So when that didn't work out, Iwas just basically like you
know what we both was like wecan do this ourselves, like we
did all of this for these peoplein a short amount of time.
Imagine what we can do forourselves.
So the thing that was the redflag for us, the reason why it
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didn't work out, is because hebasically wanted to, I want to
kind of say, monitor the groupof people we brought in there
and we felt there it was verystrange.
Yeah, we put so much work andenergy into this event that I
want my people to be able tocome out and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
He was a white man that wanted to monitor how many
black people were there Exactlyand the area was like you're
going to call us crazy, but whenwe went up there it looked like
hills have eyes, okay that'sjust too many it's just a lot,
it's just so crazy cause.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Shout out to Polo G we ended up at his.
Oh my god, we ended up at PoloG's house it was just so many
crazy things that happened theman, the man.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Basically he worked on Polo G's house.
I guess like sold it to him andhe's like, oh, polo G's going
to be.
This is like when we didn'tknow things.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The story's still crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He basically said that Polo G's going to come sing
or whatever at the event.
We're like, okay, he's like,okay, I'm going to introduce you
to him.
So we think Polo G knows we'recoming.
Like, oh, these are going to bethe coordinators for the event.
So Polo G rolls up, he's oncrutches and he's yelling man
like you got people here, what?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
is going on.
I don't know you like that andI was like it was so crazy.
Let's get out of here because,like I don't know what's
happening the thing about it islike I don't want to make any
comments so people think I'mracist, like my stepmother's
white.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, I got so many all my friends are half
white, so it's like my bestfriend's half white, so it's
really not that, but some peopleare just like girl.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Some people are just like girl, it was just like
clueless, Like it's just crazy,Like I really feel, like he felt
entitled, Like like it was justcrazy, Like it was just it was.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I was upset because I'm like you put us in a
situation to where somethingcould have happened to us.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You brought us up here, you know, to this man's
private property, but you knowwhat I'm saying.
And my whole thing is like I hadtold her like, okay, they
bringing us in because they needa black crowd, they need a
black audience, but at the sametime, I'm not going to bring my
people out here to get assaultedor, you know, targeted for any
strange reason.
Because now we're discussingwith these guys like security
and certain things that they'regoing to need for the venue, and
(22:04):
they're like no, we need mutualLike as soon as he said that I
got really scared.
I was like immediately we had ameeting.
After that we was like, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I'm not sensitive.
I'm like let's have a divide,Okay, so you guys curbed him, we
curbed him.
And then where did you guys goto next?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We went to the Valley closer to where we live, north
Hills.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, so we and we actually had called them because
we needed something from themand they thought we were trying
to throw an event at their spotwe're like, no, we got our own
stuff going on by that point intime.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Excuse me, so we do have a residency location in
North Hills which is like aresort mansion style venue.
That's where we have the festwith all the vendors, food
activities, games, marijuana,meditations, massages.
It's basically like it's awhole experience.
Like you come there, you dodifferent things, have a good
(22:57):
time, drink, eat.
But then we also have anotherlocation in Angola where we hold
the showcases.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So it's two different little bars you get we kind of
just want to be.
Basically, our vision is to bethe next Black Coachella.
So that's where we're at rightnow.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about that, let'smanifest that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
In this music showcase.
What does that look like forsomebody who's thinking about
going to the event, who is likeI'm not sure I see these things,
but you know, I don't know.
What would you tell them Like,why should they be at this event
if they're interested in comingor doing?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
this.
Well, since both of us were inthe industry prior, we have
connections, producers,different people that do videos,
different things like that.
So I believe it's a really goodopportunity just to get them
out there.
Plus, we're all about thepeople.
Again, like we said earlier,it's not about the money.
We know how hard it is to be inthe industry.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, because FYI people, we are not making any
coins right now.
Okay.
Check us back in a few monthsor something.
But as of now it's like and wegive back to charity Every
single time we throw an event,whether we make money or not.
Mind you, we have not beenmaking any money at all, but,
like I said, we'll take moneyout of our own pockets to give
back to charity from everysingle event that we do.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And that's something that people don't understand,
which goes on the topic aboutyou know, friends that don't
support you, you know like a $10ticket.
I got people harassing me like,oh, can you get me in for free?
And I'm just like, hey, likeit's, the tickets are done, you
know.
So at the end of the day it'slike, if you're my friend, it's
only $10.
You should put support.
You know, this is not just somerandom party down the street.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I know you guys saw that post.
It always floats around everyso often it says you're the
biggest supporters of the peopleon the Internet.
They are.
It's sad.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
It's the people that don't even know.
You Know sure.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And it's crazy and I always wonder why.
I always want to dissect that.
I don't know if it's like well,it's a homeboy, a homegirl
thing we should like.
Like, I think, the concept, Ithink more so, like in our
community, the concept offeeling like you don't have to
pay your friends, Like why isthat even a thing?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't understand, because I just feel like if you
want to support your friend, youshouldn't be going.
Oh, I need to get it for free.
Or can I get a discount?
Because they don't see the workthat we're doing, like with
your clothes, with my hair stuff, how much it costs just to make
your clothes, make my stuff,get it made and things like that
.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
They don't get it, so like they'll see money coming
in, they'll see like the bar,and it's like that didn't even
put a dent in what this wholething together.
Like people don't understand.
Like cameraman, you have to payfor those.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Security.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Photographer, we have to pay for that.
Security, we have to pay forthat.
Like the venue, you have to payfor that.
Like nobody gives you anythingfor free.
But like, honestly, like yo, Ilove my friends like family.
So like like I wanted this towhere we basically we both
talked about it, like how webring all of our friends in
together and we come up togetherbecause we can't do it on our
(25:53):
own.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We're very much aware of that that's why I was like I
think the event that we met oneof our good friends shout out
to Nadia Chatworthy Magazine shecreated like this what was it?
Influencer content creation day.
And she rented a thing and Igot to meet a lot of beautiful
people.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I met Shkora there.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I met Jacob there.
I met a lot of good people thatare artists and I felt like it
was such an inspiring event.
And then I went to her nextevent, which was like the Barbie
.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Day.
Yeah, I wasn't able to makethat one, but it was really dope
.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It was a big one and she had, like this female
empowerment dinner.
We all sat there and it waslike the most beautiful women,
just women, doing what we aresupposed to do, loving on each
other, supporting each otherbuying from each other.
It was amazing and I can't wait.
I think it's like a yearlyannual thing.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't care where I'm at, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
So annual thing.
I was like I don't care whereI'm at, I'm coming, so I really
yeah, I admire that and I thinkthat, like people like yourself
who have that same kind ofmission to go out and make sure
that you're tapping into yourcommunity, your friends and
artists that's the biggest thing.
Artists are shaping the worldso amazingly.
That needs to be spread.
(27:09):
That word needs to be spread,because it's those creative
minds who are coming up with theHarmony Utopia effect Exactly
Coming up with the solution forhair and alopecia Coming up for
somebody to be like I don't wantto be all pressed up, I want to
have something comfortable butfly.
Exactly, and it's like thoseplatforms are very important and
(27:29):
for me, especially when itcomes to black women.
Like I come from the East Coast, when I came to LA I did not
feel black women wereappreciated or valued.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It was.
It was, they were underpaid andI would have the same
conversations with differentpackets of friends.
I got a lot of friends Like I'ma lone wolf in a sense, like I
got my pockets, but I I am alone wolf in a sense, like I got
my pockets, but I I am a womanof the world, like I like
talking to everybody, right, andI would hear the same
conversation no matter where Iwas at, and I was like, okay, we
need to talk about it.
(28:00):
We're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, that's what we're gonna do.
Yeah, because I've been outhere for a while, like I said.
I say, yeah, I've been out herefor a while, like I said, and,
um, like with the dating, I'mkind of like, yeah, even with
the dating yeah, it's just kindof like totally watch that,
listen to that episode we gottalisten to it.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I was like I don't know if you guys had that
experience or what's yourexperience, but I had a stint
where, like, black men did nottalk to me, really like I don't
know what it was.
I don't know what it was, blackmen did not talk to me, but
like they're usually not from.
That's really weird.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
They're weird.
They want us to chase them now,which I'm not doing.
I'm not chasing you, sir.
I'm not doing it.
So it's like I thought you wereacting like your granddaddy and
stopped playing.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But what was the conclusion of that conversation
you had about that?
Because I'm curious too.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
You gotta watch it.
I'm gonna watch it, ladies.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So is there anything else that you guys want the
people to know, about yourbusinesses, about the Harmony
Utopia Fest, because we about toplay a game.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh, I like games First, and foremost.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Follow us on social media.
Royal Habits Clothing.
Royal Habits Clothing.
We were born royal.
You already know that for theculture.
And then the Harmony UtopiaFest on IG as well.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
And then it's at Javier Collection.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And it starts with a Z guys she got on me.
She got on me.
She's fancy.
She said it's J, it'spronounced J.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I was like okay, girl All right.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So we're going to play a game.
I like to do a game, you know,break it up so we're not so
monotonous and serious.
We're gonna play this gamecalled Roll With it or Bounce.
And speaking we were talkingabout dating, so this is a
dating game.
I'm gonna read you somescenarios and you're gonna let
me know.
Are you gonna roll with it orare you gonna bounce?
Okay, y'all ready.
Yes, they have a dysfunctionalfamily.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm gonna roll with it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
My family's dysfunctional.
Me too, like I thinkeverybody's family's
dysfunctional in some type ofway, roll with it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, they have a child.
I'm bouncing.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I used to say it was okay, but never again.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I feel like okay, so I'm 35 and I feel like any, I
like older men, so I feel likethey gonna have a child.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That's the problem, as we get older.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So I'm like I mean generally I would say balance,
but I feel like I'm at a pointwhere maybe I have to roll with
it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Well, I'm 34 and I'm still.
I might have to roll with it,but I'm 32, but I'm just like it
depends.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It depends Like, if you older like I, could like a
10, 11-year-old.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I may be older.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You got a baby.
Yeah, that was my problem.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
They had a baby.
Well, she was about maybe twoor three and I'm just like it
was just a lot, the baby mama,just a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Because they got me attached.
That's too soon.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I tried it once and it was just like oh, that's what
this is, no.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That last time.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I say that right now, Every single minute it was like
oh, my daughter, my daughter,my daughter it was family time
and I'm like family time.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Family time Like no, you're going to go by yourself,
but yeah, I'm never going to.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I'm good, I don't require too much attention
, right.
Yeah, we trying to get to knoweach other in a single parent
household.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm a stick for Sodom .
I guess I'll stick.
There's a lot of people I mean.
It's just kind of like I was ina single parent household.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, me too.
I'm a stick for Sodom.
Okay, they use too many emojisin your messages.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I'm probably gonna bounce.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I like emojis.
I feel like I feel loved.
I like emojis.
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I feel loved.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I feel like you have like one at the end, like your
emoji could be at the end ofyour sentence.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
See, we East Coast girls.
So we on that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Nah, it's fine Well because here's my thing there
comes a fine line between theman I want and the men that out
there I ain't going to saynothing else about that.
Is that for real?
It saying nothing else aboutthat?
They want to have their lipsdone.
Huh, is that for a male?
Okay, so this is for a datingin general so.
(32:03):
I'll change the question thatthey want to have any plastic
surgery or any kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
No, no, no, man, abs.
No, I'm good, hit the gym bro.
Yeah, you better go to the gym.
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
They were raised from a different background.
That's fine, that's tricky.
You all black, you know theyain't outside their race.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Oh, you mean outside the race.
I thought you meant liketraditional, because you know
like some people be like, oh,like they want a woman.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That just—.
I would think my onlybackground is race right, right.
I think it's race, my onlybackground is race.
I mean I have a type, but Imean I have dated a Hispanic guy
before, but I mean I'm okaywith that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
As long as they treat me right you know, I have a
date outside my race, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
She's bouncing.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
She's like nah good.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Look at your face.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm sitting here thinking I have, but will I gain
?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You know you're right .
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's the only thing .
Here's the thing I have becauseI've had to, because that's all
they would talk to me about,but it's always like I don't
want to explain nothing really.
But I don't mind, if you like.
There's people that are awareenough where it doesn't really
bother me but it is easier.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So I had a best friend right.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
All right, that's so off topic now.
Okay, never mind.
All right, they can't multitask.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
They can't multitask.
I'm going to bounce, yeah,bounce.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
That's going to get on my nerve.
My patience is about my balance.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Me too.
I have no patience anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, that was Roll with it or bow to it, Okay well,
I just want to say thank y'allfor coming on the show.
It's all good for me, I like toleave my shows with messages to
either our younger selves orsome people in the audience.
If you had to leave a messageto yourself about creating your
own business and pursuing yourdreams and knowing your purpose,
what would you say?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I would say never give up, because there's been
many times throughout my life Iwanted to give up.
I was crying in my room bymyself and I'm just like I can't
you know.
But I just say never give up,because whatever you do whether
you want to be a singer, youwant to be a business owner,
this or that, dr Lloyd,everything's hard.
It doesn't matter what you'redoing, it's going to be
difficult and the people thatstick with it is the ones that
(34:16):
are gonna be successful at theend of the day.
So that's what I would tellmyself and the viewers out there
too.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So I would just thinking I'm like I would
probably tell myself, likeyou're gonna hear a thousand
no's.
You know what I'm saying?
It only takes one yes, andeverything is about timing.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
That's about it well, there you have it again.
Ladies, let them know wherethey can find you.
I'll drop your handles again.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, that's my personal page.
I am Shakora on Instagramthat's S-H-A-C-O-R-A.
Like Tupac Royal HabitsClothing on Instagram.
Royal Habits Clothing alsoInstagram.
Royal Habits Clothing.
Also the Harmony Utopia Fest.
Shout out to us.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And then my Instagram is at Javier Z, as in zebra
H-A-V-E-A, and then also my haircare collection is at Javier,
Collection, spelled the same wayas my name.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
All right.
Well, there you have it guys.
Thank have it guys.
Thank y'all again for coming onthe show.
Thanks for having me.
You're welcome.
I'm glad y'all came and if youguys have any questions or you
guys want to reach out to theseladies, do not hesitate to
either hit does it, that's allup.
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The age of sisterhood is upon us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I believe in that.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
There's no more of that.
They want to pretend that we'rebashing each other, but we're
really not.
And everybody's in competition?
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
They're always in competition.
Which I love about ourfriendship is that even when I
wasn't selling, or vice versa,we always were there with each
other.
Just to help to support,because it's not really about
competition at the end the endof day.
So that's what kind of helpedus be like hey, we need to do
our own thing, like because it'sco-elevating you know, yeah,
(00:40):
black excellence at its finest.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
How that skin glows, she's a true diamond, with the
world right out back, she'sstill smiling, never left that
crown till she stayed thriving.
That's it, that's all.
That's it.
That's all.
That's it, that's all, that'sit, that's all.
Is that really it, though?
What up, what up?
(01:02):
What up?
Welcome to.
That's it, that's All.
I'm your host, kasey Carnage,but y'all know me.
Today we have some lovely,lovely ladies on the couch.
We got my girl, shakura, hey,and Javier, hey, and they're
going to talk about what theygot going on, and, as you know,
this podcast is abouthighlighting black women through
our voices, through our lens,through the things that we're
(01:23):
doing, how we're showing up inthe world and how we're helping
the world, and they have someamazing things going on.
We're going to talk about theirindividual businesses, but
we're also going to talk aboutthe Harmony Utopia Fest, which I
think is going to be amazing,and I'm excited and we ready.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So what's up, girls?
So first off, my name isShakora, as you guys just heard
her say, and I do have aclothing brand, royal Habits
Clothing.
I do a lot of customs.
You know I'm from the EastCoast originally.
I moved to LA about East Coastgirl.
I know I moved to LA about fiveyears ago, like basically just
to trace my dream.
Like everybody else, I wasdoing music, acting the whole
(02:03):
nine yards.
But then once the pandemic hit,I kind of did a reset and I'm
like let me focus on myrebranding with my clothing
brand, because when you'recreative, like, it just comes
from everywhere, whether it'smusic, clothes, whatever the
case may be, like I was justlike I need to get in tune with
creating.
So I got back on my clothingbrand and I started doing
pop-ups.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And what would you describe your clothing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I would say it's like a luxury urban brand.
You know what I mean Urban chic.
Yeah, you can say urban chic, Ilike.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean the reason why I'm calling it chic is I've
seen it and I've seen yourmodels that you have and it's
definitely giving like.
It's giving runway, it's givingthat urban vibe, so we put in
the universe as well.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, I receive that, Okay For sure.
So I'm big on quality, like Iwould not sell something that I
wouldn't wear myself, and I lovedoing customs.
But it's just harder to docustoms because it's like you're
dealing with different sizes,different people and now that
I'm doing other things it's justa little bit more difficult to
own in on, like just doingone-to-one pieces for everyone.
(03:07):
So a lot of people like theone-to-one pieces but I have to
make things for the masses rightnow because I have so many
different things going on.
But DM us so we can still do acustom two weeks ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Like not going to turn down any.
You know how about you Jah?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Okay.
So how about you, Jav?
Okay so, hey guys, Javier, I'mactually first to record an
artist.
I've been doing music since2011.
So a little bit about me.
I was doing a lot of touringoverseas in Jamaica, Grenada,
where my family's from Trinidad,different places like that and
I was doing a music video calledGimme that Love featuring
(03:44):
Beanie man.
That's one of my biggest hitsand it's a really funny story.
So, basically, they weresupposed to wet my hair.
I have naturally curly hair andI have the braids in today, but
naturally curly hair and I havebleach in my hair.
They were supposed to wet myhair with water and they wet it
with alcohol and my hair juststarted coming out for weeks and
(04:06):
things like that because ofhumidity and things like that.
So I was devastated and I thinkthey did it on purpose.
So that's number one.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Another story for another time, that's another day
, but that's a short version.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So I was very devastated.
I was trying different thingsand my family they told me about
this secret ingredient thatthey would use to help your hair
grow.
So I used that plus put otherthings in it and my hair started
to grow back.
So that created JavierCollection.
I actually have one of mybottles with me right now.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yes, oh, show me the bottle.
I love when people bring things.
Yes, girl, bring all the thingsso like.
Fortunately your business cameout of it, but unfortunately
people need to stop hating yeah,so this is the first thing I
made so you can smell.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It smells pretty good .
It has all natural ingredients.
You can have it make your hair,y'all it smells mad good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It smells mad good, it smells so good.
So like this is for like scalp.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, so it helps your hair grow really, really
quickly, like pre-poo sitch orit's like every day so usually I
do it every other day, she'sgoing to zoom in y'all.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
There she goes.
Oh, it smells so good.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Usually I do it every other day.
You just put it on your scalp,massage it you don't have to put
that much and you'll startseeing results.
People some of my customersalopecia and things like that in
their hair has been growing.
So yeah, I'm going to try it.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I got these braids in there I can put my old braids
in there.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yes, put on your braids, girl.
We all have the braids, I loveit.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I know we're all matching.
Okay, we go through.
There's a lot of things thatchallenge, especially as a
business owner, as somebodywho's running their own business
or somebody that is runningtheir own career.
Right, Because what are some ofthe challenges you guys have
faced and how have you overcomethem?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, for starters, when I get emails, it's always
there, sir, for some reason,like yeah, always.
That's crazy.
I don't know why.
Because, like my brand isactually like unisex.
So I don't know why, because,like my brand is actually like
unisex, so I don't know ifthat's why that another
impression that it's a malerunning it or whatnot.
So I just feel like as being afemale period.
It's hard for us, you know.
So, for starters, when Istarted my first collection out
(06:15):
in LA, I got a new manufacturerGirl.
It took me like almost twoyears to get my merchandise from
him.
Like, after you know, I've paideverything, I have to pretty
much harass him.
I had to pretty much get afriend go up there with me, like
who was a male, and I had mystuff the next day.
So I was just like it'sdifficult being a woman, you
know what I'm saying.
Like you know they'll try you,opposed to like if you were a
(06:44):
man, it's like no, oh, next week, come by next week.
You know what I mean.
So, like, I feel like justbeing a female in the business
world it could be tough.
You know it's not always easy.
How about you?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I definitely agree with that Because even just like
us looking, for example, like amarketing agent, you already
know what happened.
This an agent, you already knowwhat happened.
Yeah, this guy, he came up tome.
He's like, oh, I'm gonna helpmarket your stuff.
And next thing I know he's inmy text saying dirty stuff to me
and I'm just like oh the dirtystuff.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He said girl, it was just so random, like oh he
basically was like what did hesay?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
again, he said something along the lines like
oh um, I have something to tellyou.
And I was like what?
And he was like oh uh, I wantto to see how you taste, or some
shit like that.
I can't even remember, but itwas along the lines of that and.
I was like like we were supposedto have a meeting, like about
marketing my stuff.
So that's one thing.
You know, we also have done alot of like pop ups and stuff
(07:38):
like that.
It's always some creep and it'sjust a lot.
You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I had a friend I actually had a lawyer friend
tell me that, as a woman, eventhough we shouldn't have to do
this, when we go to thesemeetings or we set up these
meetings, we should always havea male with us, not to speak for
us, but the fact that it's aprotection thing.
Yeah, for sure Because a lot oftimes you think especially,
think like, especially like youknow, you know we carry
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ourselves the way we carry us.
Nobody should have to like, uh,move differently than what
they're already moving right andsometimes it's very
disheartening when you feel likesomebody is like seeing you and
like really out here to cheeryou and you support you and you
get there and they got ulteriormotives you know it's it's sad,
it's which happens all the time,all the time time.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah, All the time .
It's sick.
I call it pretty girl syndrome.
I'm telling you it's prettygirl syndrome.
We can't win.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So we out here winning.
I'm just joking.
Okay, so you guys do a lot ofpop-up events, right?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You guys are vendors.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I've been to one of your shows that you're vending.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
How did you guys decided I want to be in a so I
originally, when I startedrebranding, like I said, I was
an artist as well.
Um, before I started with mybrand, but I've also.
You know, when you're an artistyou are your brand.
So it kind of went hand in hand.
But when the pandemic came, Istopped doing music and I just
focused on the brand.
So what I did was I decided torebrand because I've been out
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for a while but I wanted to makesure that everybody knew who
RHC was.
So I did pop-ups in New York,rhode Island, atlanta, arizona,
like you name it.
I decided to do like I think itwas like an eight city tour
where I did pop-up shops inevery city.
So after I finished that, Idecided to just focus on LA,
because I hadn't did any in LAyet.
So then I started doing like alot of like something dope to do
(09:25):
for the women you knowup-and-coming small vending
events and stuff like that.
And basically what I startedrealizing as I started trying to
do like the bigger venues Blackon the Block or Hot Water,
cornbread, some of the you knowbigger establishments is like as
a small business, you'respending a lot of money.
So like you kind of expect to,like you know, make something.
(09:47):
You know one or two salessomething, and I feel like as
much money as you spend as avendor.
You know what I mean.
Like it wasn't marketed, itwasn't really catered to the
vendors so much.
What do you mean by that?
What do you think it wascatered to?
So I just think like I don'twant to put something into the
universe but I just feel like,for example, we do it like I do
(10:08):
events now, because I was avendor before and I felt like,
ok, I'm paying so much money tobe a vendor and I'm not making
any money.
So now what I do with my eventsis that I charge the vendors
basically barely anything.
You know what I mean.
So basically I'm like OK, evenif you come and you don don't
make a lot of money, you didn'treally lose anything and you got
your brand out there, you gotyour name out there.
(10:29):
We also market the vendors onevery single thing we do.
Like they have a placement onour page, like you can go and
follow them, even if it's weeksor months after the event that
they did.
If you're looking for them,you'll still be able to find
them.
So they'll always, always belisted on our page, opposed to
like sometimes I pay like $400to be a vendor and I wasn't even
listed on the page and thenwhen I got there, I had to set
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up all the way in the back.
People don't even know I'm backthere.
So it was just like you know,like I'm not, we're like me
personally with with the eventswe throw now.
We're not in it for the money.
We're in it to bring thecreatives together.
So, like, even as an artistI've paid to perform sometimes
and I get there there's noproducers that I can work with,
there's no one looking for thevision, looking for fresh
artists, you know, there's noone giving positive advice and
(11:12):
feedback on my performance, theX, y and Z.
So we're basically trying tobring the whole community
together where everybody isgetting help, like it's
benefiting everybody, not justlike the people throwing it
together or just have you hadthe same kind of experiences
yeah, so I she actually inspiredme to start the pop-ups because
before I was just sellingonline, like again, like I said,
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with the hair growth serum, Ihave a whole line.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now I have different shampoos, conditioners and also
it's 100% vegan.
So I actually started sellingmy stuff in 2020 because, again,
pandemic, nothing to do, kindof stopped the music also as
well, like her.
So, with that being said, shewas going to different places
and what was that?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
last year or year before I don't remember yeah it
was like last year, the lastcouple years and actually like,
yeah, it was last year.
Right, we went to Atlanta,right, we're forgetting this.
2024 I know, I'm just like waita minute, it was, it was just
2020.
Yesterday, yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So she went to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I came with her, you know, to support she had her
ROTC there and we went to Also,just to chime in, like even the
ones that I was doing out ofstate, I always usually get like
two local artists that come outperform for free.
I usually get free food, drinks, because it's about the
community.
So I want you guys to come in,learn about the brand, vibe with
us, enjoy us.
You know what I mean.
(12:28):
So it was basically like amarketing strategy and we ended
up doing one together in Arizona, which did really well.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Which did really well .
So then I was like hmm, youknow, I started applying to
things like Black Flea andthings like that.
So I did a couple of the biggerevents, but then we found out
the malls had opportunities todo pop-ups also.
So we're always together doingthis, like we will set up
together, you know, help eachother out because we only had
each other, because we didn'thave nobody else.
(12:52):
So, thank god, I'm I'm thankfulfor you, because at that point
we were just thinking aboutthough like that's what it's
about.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Like I feel like the here's the thing we can't do.
Do it by ourselves, right?
No, we want to believe we cando it by ourselves.
We want to act like everythingis on our shoulders and we can
create everything, but when youfind really genuine people that
really believe in your visionand see your vision, it really
means more than anything.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So, it's good that you guys have, you know, a
partner and you guys can do that, because and also too, I think
that it's important that youngergirls can see that Of course,
Like you know what I mean.
Like the age of sisterhood isupon us, right yeah, I agree, I
believe in that.
There's no more of that.
Like they want to pretend thatwe're bashing each other, but
we're really not.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And everybody's in competition.
Not at all, not at all.
They're always in competition.
Which I love about ourfriendship is that even when I
wasn't selling, or vice versa,we always were there with each
other just to help, to support,because it's not really about
competition at the end of theday.
So that's what kind of helpedus be like, hey, we need to do
our own thing Because it'sco-elevating right, it's
(13:59):
co-elevating, so come up withthat idea.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I want to know how you guys came up with the name,
because I was just like I'm inEthiopia, because it's kind of
like, kind of the same, but not.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, so first, like, where do we start?
All right, so first off, wecame up with the whole idea
because, like she said, weactually started doing mall, the
mall events or whatever.
Now, the mall events were verystressful.
So, like, let me tell you, ourbacks were hurting.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It was so crazy.
I'm like there's so manystories Like where do I start?
Crazy people.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We can both give you guys like a quick stalker story.
Okay, so you're in the mall forhours at a time, right, doing
these events.
You're basically in it for damnnear like 12 hours at a time.
You're vending, you're sellingstuff.
Now, in the midst of it, you'regetting all type of strange
people walking around you.
You know a man that would justwalk past you and just directly
(14:57):
follow you, like, and they'll bestill walking, follow you.
Men with their girls juststaring, following you, whatever
.
So, um, as a business owner,it's like okay, hi, like, yeah,
I want you to buy this shirt.
Hey, thank you, you know I'msaying so.
It's just like when they comeover, oh, what's this?
You know you're going toentertain it because you're
trying to sell something, butafter a while it's just like so
me, okay, I'm from New York.
So the thing about being fromNew York is that you learn at a
(15:20):
very young age if a guy asks youfor their even like, don't even
give them a fake number.
Give them the real number,because they'll call you right
then and there and be like oh,you'll get cursed out.
They'll be mad you could havejust told me no, like it would
be a whole thing.
So you know, as I'm doing theseevents, like she always tells
me, like why do you give outyour?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
real number.
I'm like, like I said, but thisone time Marketing tactic, she
knows she doing it.
You know what that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
was the last time I gave out my number though,
because I'm just like okay,whatever.
So I give my number out, thisguy's calling, he sends me a
text message, but I'm busy.
I got a lot of things going on.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't have time to answerlike on your terms.
So, long story short, I got alittle free time and she just so
happened to be with me because,like, I'm planning other stuff.
(16:17):
So I'm like, oh, I met this guyat the mall.
I think we can use him for this.
So I'm like, let me plug inwith him, so I give him a call
or whatever.
How are you?
Oh, like, it was just so crazy,it was like a demon on the
other side of the phone Girl.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It was so weird, it was so crazy, it was so weird,
honestly like.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm very outspoken and stuff, so if it scared me,
like we know that's a problem.
So I thought if I was speakingnow, like he's just getting
crazy on the phone, he's like,oh, I can't even really remember
, but he was just like so rudeand nasty on the phone.
Oh, people make time for thethings that they want.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
She just met him three days ago Talking about I'm
a kid you're going to miss out.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So it was just so crazy because he was just like
oh, people make time for thethings that they want.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You can't be that me.
He doesn't even know me, so.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I'm like.
So now I put on my you know,professional voice.
I'm like you know what.
I'm so sorry.
I was like I'm really not.
I was like I'm really not aconfrontational person.
Oh, you're going to be alone.
For the rest, just like he hityou with a baby girl yes, oh, he
was so real he was so mad um, Iwas like okay, you have a
(17:32):
blessed day.
God bless you, right, girl.
He started sending me selfiesof himself.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Selfies now I know this is.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
This is like really out of like the norm.
But, like I said, you know, Idon't really date that much in
la, like you know what I'msaying.
So a while back, when I wastalking to a guy in la like all
day he would send me selfies, soI I was like is that an LA
thing?
Like I know that's off topic,but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
To be honest with you the LA date, and that's another
topic.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Y'all can go check it out on YouTube?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, but we definitely talk about it Tell us
what episode girl because Ineed to look that one up.
No, it's literally the funniestepisode, because it's crazy,
but yeah girl like la dating hasbeen it's been a strange
Speaker 2 (18:18):
place.
Like men are strange, it was Iwas scared.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm not like before we get too off topic.
So you guys were doing thesemall events and you guys were
talking about creating thisevent.
Okay, the Utopia.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So what happened was one day at the mall or whatever.
It was actually the day when Iwas like this is my last time
doing the mall event.
I can't like it's just too much.
Like the hassle, the stalkers,everything.
So, long story short, I endedup losing like a piece to one of
my racks that I needed and Iwent around to different vendors
, asked them like, oh, do youhave like an Allen key or
whatever?
And it just so happened likethis white man who was coming to
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help his daughter set up hadone in his truck or something
like that, so he ended upbringing it back.
And then, you know, he justbasically asked me like did I
know anyone who would beinterested in vending and also
like planning an event that theyhad at a state, like somewhere
in a what?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
was it Box Canyon, box Canyon.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So it was like, basically, I want to say it was
like a state, but it was like aI don't know.
It gave like Coachella vibes.
You know what I mean.
So you know I agreed to do it.
You know what I'm saying.
Like me and her legit followedup with him the next day, you
know, linked up with him and hisbusiness partner.
(19:38):
So that's basically how theHarmony Utopia Fest came about,
because we got presented with anopportunity to throw events for
another establishment, someinvestors, a different group of
people, and it didn't work out.
So when that didn't work out, Iwas just basically like you
know what we both was like wecan do this ourselves, like we
did all of this for these peoplein a short amount of time.
Imagine what we can do forourselves.
So the thing that was the redflag for us, the reason why it
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didn't work out, is because hebasically wanted to, I want to
kind of say, monitor the groupof people we brought in there
and we felt there it was verystrange.
Yeah, we put so much work andenergy into this event that I
want my people to be able tocome out and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
He was a white man that wanted to monitor how many
black people were there Exactlyand the area was like you're
going to call us crazy, but whenwe went up there it looked like
hills have eyes, okay that'sjust too many it's just a lot,
it's just so crazy cause.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Shout out to Polo G we ended up at his.
Oh my god, we ended up at PoloG's house it was just so many
crazy things that happened theman, the man.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Basically he worked on Polo G's house.
I guess like sold it to him andhe's like, oh, polo G's going
to be.
This is like when we didn'tknow things.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The story's still crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He basically said that Polo G's going to come sing
or whatever at the event.
We're like, okay, he's like,okay, I'm going to introduce you
to him.
So we think Polo G knows we'recoming.
Like, oh, these are going to bethe coordinators for the event.
So Polo G rolls up, he's oncrutches and he's yelling man
like you got people here, what?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
is going on.
I don't know you like that andI was like it was so crazy.
Let's get out of here because,like I don't know what's
happening the thing about it islike I don't want to make any
comments so people think I'mracist, like my stepmother's
white.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, I got so many all my friends are half
white, so it's like my bestfriend's half white, so it's
really not that, but some peopleare just like girl.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Some people are just like girl, it was just like
clueless, Like it's just crazy,Like I really feel, like he felt
entitled, Like like it was justcrazy, Like it was just it was.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I was upset because I'm like you put us in a
situation to where somethingcould have happened to us.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You brought us up here, you know, to this man's
private property, but you knowwhat I'm saying.
And my whole thing is like I hadtold her like, okay, they
bringing us in because they needa black crowd, they need a
black audience, but at the sametime, I'm not going to bring my
people out here to get assaultedor, you know, targeted for any
strange reason.
Because now we're discussingwith these guys like security
and certain things that they'regoing to need for the venue, and
(22:04):
they're like no, we need mutualLike as soon as he said that I
got really scared.
I was like immediately we had ameeting.
After that we was like, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I'm not sensitive.
I'm like let's have a divide,Okay, so you guys curbed him, we
curbed him.
And then where did you guys goto next?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We went to the Valley closer to where we live, north
Hills.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, so we and we actually had called them because
we needed something from themand they thought we were trying
to throw an event at their spotwe're like, no, we got our own
stuff going on by that point intime.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Excuse me, so we do have a residency location in
North Hills which is like aresort mansion style venue.
That's where we have the festwith all the vendors, food
activities, games, marijuana,meditations, massages.
It's basically like it's awhole experience.
Like you come there, you dodifferent things, have a good
(22:57):
time, drink, eat.
But then we also have anotherlocation in Angola where we hold
the showcases.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So it's two different little bars you get we kind of
just want to be.
Basically, our vision is to bethe next Black Coachella.
So that's where we're at rightnow.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about that, let'smanifest that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
In this music showcase.
What does that look like forsomebody who's thinking about
going to the event, who is likeI'm not sure I see these things,
but you know, I don't know.
What would you tell them Like,why should they be at this event
if they're interested in comingor doing?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
this.
Well, since both of us were inthe industry prior, we have
connections, producers,different people that do videos,
different things like that.
So I believe it's a really goodopportunity just to get them
out there.
Plus, we're all about thepeople.
Again, like we said earlier,it's not about the money.
We know how hard it is to be inthe industry.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, because FYI people, we are not making any
coins right now.
Okay.
Check us back in a few monthsor something.
But as of now it's like and wegive back to charity Every
single time we throw an event,whether we make money or not.
Mind you, we have not beenmaking any money at all, but,
like I said, we'll take moneyout of our own pockets to give
back to charity from everysingle event that we do.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And that's something that people don't understand,
which goes on the topic aboutyou know, friends that don't
support you, you know like a $10ticket.
I got people harassing me like,oh, can you get me in for free?
And I'm just like, hey, likeit's, the tickets are done, you
know.
So at the end of the day it'slike, if you're my friend, it's
only $10.
You should put support.
You know, this is not just somerandom party down the street.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I know you guys saw that post.
It always floats around everyso often it says you're the
biggest supporters of the peopleon the Internet.
They are.
It's sad.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
It's the people that don't even know.
You Know sure.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And it's crazy and I always wonder why.
I always want to dissect that.
I don't know if it's like well,it's a homeboy, a homegirl
thing we should like.
Like, I think, the concept, Ithink more so, like in our
community, the concept offeeling like you don't have to
pay your friends, Like why isthat even a thing?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't understand, because I just feel like if you
want to support your friend, youshouldn't be going.
Oh, I need to get it for free.
Or can I get a discount?
Because they don't see the workthat we're doing, like with
your clothes, with my hair stuff, how much it costs just to make
your clothes, make my stuff,get it made and things like that
.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
They don't get it, so like they'll see money coming
in, they'll see like the bar,and it's like that didn't even
put a dent in what this wholething together.
Like people don't understand.
Like cameraman, you have to payfor those.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Security.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Photographer, we have to pay for that.
Security, we have to pay forthat.
Like the venue, you have to payfor that.
Like nobody gives you anythingfor free.
But like, honestly, like yo, Ilove my friends like family.
So like like I wanted this towhere we basically we both
talked about it, like how webring all of our friends in
together and we come up togetherbecause we can't do it on our
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own.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We're very much aware of that that's why I was like I
think the event that we met oneof our good friends shout out
to Nadia Chatworthy Magazine shecreated like this what was it?
Influencer content creation day.
And she rented a thing and Igot to meet a lot of beautiful
people.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I met Shkora there.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I met Jacob there.
I met a lot of good people thatare artists and I felt like it
was such an inspiring event.
And then I went to her nextevent, which was like the Barbie
.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Day.
Yeah, I wasn't able to makethat one, but it was really dope
.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It was a big one and she had, like this female
empowerment dinner.
We all sat there and it waslike the most beautiful women,
just women, doing what we aresupposed to do, loving on each
other, supporting each otherbuying from each other.
It was amazing and I can't wait.
I think it's like a yearlyannual thing.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't care where I'm at, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
So annual thing.
I was like I don't care whereI'm at, I'm coming, so I really
yeah, I admire that and I thinkthat, like people like yourself
who have that same kind ofmission to go out and make sure
that you're tapping into yourcommunity, your friends and
artists that's the biggest thing.
Artists are shaping the worldso amazingly.
That needs to be spread.
(27:09):
That word needs to be spread,because it's those creative
minds who are coming up with theHarmony Utopia effect Exactly
Coming up with the solution forhair and alopecia Coming up for
somebody to be like I don't wantto be all pressed up, I want to
have something comfortable butfly.
Exactly, and it's like thoseplatforms are very important and
(27:29):
for me, especially when itcomes to black women.
Like I come from the East Coast, when I came to LA I did not
feel black women wereappreciated or valued.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It was.
It was, they were underpaid andI would have the same
conversations with differentpackets of friends.
I got a lot of friends Like I'ma lone wolf in a sense, like I
got my pockets, but I I am alone wolf in a sense, like I got
my pockets, but I I am a womanof the world, like I like
talking to everybody, right, andI would hear the same
conversation no matter where Iwas at, and I was like, okay, we
need to talk about it.
(28:00):
We're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, that's what we're gonna do.
Yeah, because I've been outhere for a while, like I said.
I say, yeah, I've been out herefor a while, like I said, and,
um, like with the dating, I'mkind of like, yeah, even with
the dating yeah, it's just kindof like totally watch that,
listen to that episode we gottalisten to it.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I was like I don't know if you guys had that
experience or what's yourexperience, but I had a stint
where, like, black men did nottalk to me, really like I don't
know what it was.
I don't know what it was, blackmen did not talk to me, but
like they're usually not from.
That's really weird.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
They're weird.
They want us to chase them now,which I'm not doing.
I'm not chasing you, sir.
I'm not doing it.
So it's like I thought you wereacting like your granddaddy and
stopped playing.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But what was the conclusion of that conversation
you had about that?
Because I'm curious too.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
You gotta watch it.
I'm gonna watch it, ladies.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So is there anything else that you guys want the
people to know, about yourbusinesses, about the Harmony
Utopia Fest, because we about toplay a game.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh, I like games First, and foremost.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Follow us on social media.
Royal Habits Clothing.
Royal Habits Clothing.
We were born royal.
You already know that for theculture.
And then the Harmony UtopiaFest on IG as well.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
And then it's at Javier Collection.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And it starts with a Z guys she got on me.
She got on me.
She's fancy.
She said it's J, it'spronounced J.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I was like okay, girl All right.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So we're going to play a game.
I like to do a game, you know,break it up so we're not so
monotonous and serious.
We're gonna play this gamecalled Roll With it or Bounce.
And speaking we were talkingabout dating, so this is a
dating game.
I'm gonna read you somescenarios and you're gonna let
me know.
Are you gonna roll with it orare you gonna bounce?
Okay, y'all ready.
Yes, they have a dysfunctionalfamily.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm gonna roll with it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
My family's dysfunctional.
Me too, like I thinkeverybody's family's
dysfunctional in some type ofway, roll with it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, they have a child.
I'm bouncing.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I used to say it was okay, but never again.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I feel like okay, so I'm 35 and I feel like any, I
like older men, so I feel likethey gonna have a child.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That's the problem, as we get older.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So I'm like I mean generally I would say balance,
but I feel like I'm at a pointwhere maybe I have to roll with
it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Well, I'm 34 and I'm still.
I might have to roll with it,but I'm 32, but I'm just like it
depends.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It depends Like, if you older like I, could like a
10, 11-year-old.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I may be older.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You got a baby.
Yeah, that was my problem.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
They had a baby.
Well, she was about maybe twoor three and I'm just like it
was just a lot, the baby mama,just a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Because they got me attached.
That's too soon.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I tried it once and it was just like oh, that's what
this is, no.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That last time.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I say that right now, Every single minute it was like
oh, my daughter, my daughter,my daughter it was family time
and I'm like family time.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Family time Like no, you're going to go by yourself,
but yeah, I'm never going to.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I'm good, I don't require too much attention
, right.
Yeah, we trying to get to knoweach other in a single parent
household.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm a stick for Sodom .
I guess I'll stick.
There's a lot of people I mean.
It's just kind of like I was ina single parent household.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, me too.
I'm a stick for Sodom.
Okay, they use too many emojisin your messages.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I'm probably gonna bounce.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I like emojis.
I feel like I feel loved.
I like emojis.
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I feel loved.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I feel like you have like one at the end, like your
emoji could be at the end ofyour sentence.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
See, we East Coast girls.
So we on that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Nah, it's fine Well because here's my thing there
comes a fine line between theman I want and the men that out
there I ain't going to saynothing else about that.
Is that for real?
It saying nothing else aboutthat?
They want to have their lipsdone.
Huh, is that for a male?
Okay, so this is for a datingin general so.
(32:03):
I'll change the question thatthey want to have any plastic
surgery or any kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
No, no, no, man, abs.
No, I'm good, hit the gym bro.
Yeah, you better go to the gym.
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
They were raised from a different background.
That's fine, that's tricky.
You all black, you know theyain't outside their race.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Oh, you mean outside the race.
I thought you meant liketraditional, because you know
like some people be like, oh,like they want a woman.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That just—.
I would think my onlybackground is race right, right.
I think it's race, my onlybackground is race.
I mean I have a type, but Imean I have dated a Hispanic guy
before, but I mean I'm okaywith that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
As long as they treat me right you know, I have a
date outside my race, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
She's bouncing.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
She's like nah good.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Look at your face.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm sitting here thinking I have, but will I gain
?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You know you're right .
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's the only thing .
Here's the thing I have becauseI've had to, because that's all
they would talk to me about,but it's always like I don't
want to explain nothing really.
But I don't mind, if you like.
There's people that are awareenough where it doesn't really
bother me but it is easier.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So I had a best friend right.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
All right, that's so off topic now.
Okay, never mind.
All right, they can't multitask.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
They can't multitask.
I'm going to bounce, yeah,bounce.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
That's going to get on my nerve.
My patience is about my balance.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Me too.
I have no patience anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, that was Roll with it or bow to it, Okay well,
I just want to say thank y'allfor coming on the show.
It's all good for me, I like toleave my shows with messages to
either our younger selves orsome people in the audience.
If you had to leave a messageto yourself about creating your
own business and pursuing yourdreams and knowing your purpose,
what would you say?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I would say never give up, because there's been
many times throughout my life Iwanted to give up.
I was crying in my room bymyself and I'm just like I can't
you know.
But I just say never give up,because whatever you do whether
you want to be a singer, youwant to be a business owner,
this or that, dr Lloyd,everything's hard.
It doesn't matter what you'redoing, it's going to be
difficult and the people thatstick with it is the ones that
(34:16):
are gonna be successful at theend of the day.
So that's what I would tellmyself and the viewers out there
too.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So I would just thinking I'm like I would
probably tell myself, likeyou're gonna hear a thousand
no's.
You know what I'm saying?
It only takes one yes, andeverything is about timing.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
That's about it well, there you have it again.
Ladies, let them know wherethey can find you.
I'll drop your handles again.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, that's my personal page.
I am Shakora on Instagramthat's S-H-A-C-O-R-A.
Like Tupac Royal HabitsClothing on Instagram.
Royal Habits Clothing alsoInstagram.
Royal Habits Clothing.
Also the Harmony Utopia Fest.
Shout out to us.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And then my Instagram is at Javier Z, as in zebra
H-A-V-E-A, and then also my haircare collection is at Javier,
Collection, spelled the same wayas my name.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
All right.
Well, there you have it guys.
Thank have it guys.
Thank y'all again for coming onthe show.
Thanks for having me.
You're welcome.
I'm glad y'all came and if youguys have any questions or you
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