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Welcome into DC on Screen. Weare the podcast that has been bringing you
loose and reviews related to the DC, comments, multi personal film and television
since twenty fifteen. I am yourhost, David C. Robertson, and
this is your other host, JasonGoss. Hello. It was almost like
love. It's hello. Have youbeen man? Good? Are you?
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Yeah? I'm tired. I wasworn out, man, And people looking
for a car take it as redas tired on my side too. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. What's been acouple of weeks since we've done a
DC on Screen And uh, Ifelt remiss because we didn't mention last time
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that there was you know, there'sthis whole or there was I haven't seen
it in a while, but therewas that whole like bring Zack Snyder's Justice
League to Netflix, Let's Snyder Versefinish on Netflix thing. And somebody showed
it to Zach over on Vero orwhatever and Zach liked it, so you
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know, that was some fuel tothe fire. So you know, I
think they could absolutely do it,and David Zaz's laugh if he wanted to,
could license it out and hell,I don't know, it might be
a whole thing. I would loveto see it. I mean, he'd
have to eat the fees that hesupposedly objected to very hardly. But but
again it's just like my argument fora long time now by that, I
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mean like six weeks has been justyou know, let's give it some time,
let everything get started. Let's maybelet it finish in an actual cal
to zac like this time, onethat we're all prepared for. And that
isn't just h cheap way of kiddingit chief way of getting out of the
sand after you've like sunk in sofar that you're grasping for vines. Mm.
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But it'll be fine, Yeah,yeah, I mean I would watch
it. I mean, obviously whatever, it'd be unavailable in like nine months,
but i'd watch it for those ninemonths. Right. Well that's everywhere
though, now, well that's fine. After that traditionally it will like transfer
to Amazon or something where I canactually buy it and just have it until
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Amazon crashes. M we do haveDA have got movies. I rely on
you keep this ship going. I'lltake my physical media, thank you.
I don't have enough space, nota room. I mean, I don't
buy them very often. Where whileI keep my copy of scrooged, I
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want a pedestal somewhere. Yeah,we we have news about um Ezra Miller.
M they pled guilty in their Vermonttrespassing case. Basically, they got
a plea deal. They were allegedto have stolen multiple bottles of alcohol from
someone's home in Stamford. UM Iremember that being one of the more amusing
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ones. Yeah, Miller said,you know, it was like, oh,
no, I was borrowing. Itwas it's an old friend of mine.
They didn't see it that way though, But and then then all the
headlines came out and said he Ezracould get twenty six years for what I'm
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listen, borrowed several kilos of cocaine. Fuck off. There were several charges
breaking and entering and theft and everything. But news ten to ABC has reported
that the UH the sentence will beninety days of suspended sentence, which means
no jail time, UH one yearof probation and a five hundred dollars fine.
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There's also the state of Vermont hadMiller agreed to forty one conditions as
a part of that plea deal,and those include random drug testing, no
drinking during the course of the year, mandatory mental health counseling. Uh yeah,
a bunch of stuff. But yeah, that's that's all that's happening.
I mean I had have been called. I had several moments and colleges that
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might have been considered something similar.Yeah, we all have both ways.
Sure, sure, I used Iused to have a roommate who would just
rummage around in my room while Iwas asleep looking for cigarettes. Oh you're
talking about him, So I don'tknow. Some people are just a little
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anal. Yeah, how dare youbreak into my house and steal several bottles
of fine liquor while I'm out oftown? That depends we haven't spoken in
fifteen years. I don't know.I don't know how long it had been
since since Ezra I talked to thosepeople. I like to imagine that is
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it had been like fifteen twenty years. And it was just sort of like
a Batter the Future Part two typeof thing where Ezra goes into the house
and steals the bottles. I think, so, my buddy Jed won't mind,
And then it turns out that likeJed died and there's like a whole
family living there that never met Ezra. You know, now I'm curious how
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old is Ezra. I don't know. That's a fine question. I guess
I've got to look that up.Now. God, well, now that
you've said fifteen years thirty. Sothat's the funniest part of it. It's
like, now now they're a bitscrewed. Like two reactions would happen if
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I showed up on somebody I knewat fifteen and stole their shit. One,
Hey, hen seen you in awhile. I guess you need that
all right? Good to see youmyself. Visit my home again. I
have children, uh huh. OrI don't recognize your ass. I'm gonna
call the cops. Yeah, justeveryone's just like I'd be a combination of
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what I just said. I couldbe dialing the cops in my back pocket
while I just said what I justsaid. Yeah, my I think my
hope for the future, weirdly,is that everyone will start mistaking Ezra Miller
for Barry Keagan. How I don'tknow he you know, Barry Kegan just
kind of looks like Ezra a littlebit. There's some similarities, but I
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don't know, it's it's not similarenough for me. Yeah, but it'd
be really funny if if to me, because when I glanced at Barry Keagan,
I think it's Ezra for just asecond, I think it'd be funny.
It's sort of like the Bill PullmanBill Paxton thing. Oh that part
was real, Yeah for sure.Yeah, they don't even really look alike.
But still now, but in thenineties, I couldn't tell based on
that. I mean, it wouldbe a Jess cover in Blockbust. I
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had to look closely. Moving onum. David Sandberg, director of Shazam,
says that the new trailer is comingat the end of the month.
So before January twenty twenty three ends, we have less than nine days and
we'll have a new Shazam trailer.Yeah, and in the same amount of
time. At some point during thisfreaking last nine days of January, James
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Gunn is gonna give us part ofa slate, he says. We'll see
clearly because he's been so responsive aboutlike he gets back to people so quickly
online. Yeah, I mean peoplewere like, you know, hey,
man, January is almost over,and he was like, we still have
like a third of the month yeaor no, well yeah, yeah,
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He's like, it's not even twothirds of the month, yet you know,
and what are you doing? Doyou know what what Dan is?
It's the twentieth down, he knows, he knows. I'm gonna be curious
about two things. One if heactually keeps his word, like can he
tweet things twenty four hours later andstill be able to keep his word like,
because that to me indicates that he'sactually relatively in charge of these decisions.
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You know. It's like we fearedhe wouldn't be that would be yet
another you know, corporate shield kindof situation too. Like I don't think
I really feared that. I mean, I suppose I did. Back in
my head, I fear nothing.Now, That's that's so true. All
my hopes and dreams have dash repeatedly. I would just take to see,
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like somebody that's actually a creative getin there and have the helm, just
to have it taken away from Butoh yeah, because we've never seen that
before now, But there's always beenthis like list of exacts that we're supposed
to be doing it and that workedout great. So yeah, I would
like to see I would like tosee the fruition of like no, no,
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no, when I say something onTwitter it really does matter. That
would just be nice, especially boyhe uses it. But I don't know.
There's a part of me, there'sa part of me if I was
Jamed Gun that would just be likebisch, I know, are you fucking
kidding me? Do you know howmuch work I have to do to stop
and answer your fucking tweet? Actuallyhe did. He did speak to that
in an interview that we'll get toin a little bit. Um real quick
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though, let's see, Uh,there's this new interview with Matt Reeves.
It doesn't really that new, butlast just the last time we did a
show enough. Yeah, it's newenough. You know. Here's the thing.
Uh, me and Jason were peopleand we got ship going on in
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our lives. Can't always get aroundto this. We try, we do
try. It's important, but payingbills comes first, unfortunately. Yeah,
yep. If you like to becomepatreon right, patreon dot com, slash
t sne screen and relievers of thatbird, you know, all that will
not stop a wife's birthday dinner fromhappening. That had to happen last week.
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Yeah, how you doing? Justyou know, do or dash that
ship and come over here. It'sfine. Let's see, but Yeah.
A new interview, Matt Reeves wastalking to Collider about how the Penguin series
ties into the Batman sequel. Hesays, there's actually a whole little fabric
of things we're wanting to do theway we're doing with Penguin, and how
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that comes back into how that willlead into the sequel and what that sequel
is going to be. I'm notsure that sentence made any sense, but
that's what he said. I hadtrouble reading it, Like my god,
there had to have been an easierway to say that, Matt. It
struck me too. You'd have toread it back to me too for me
to even guess, he says,continues, he continues, there are some
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other things we have planned too.I don't know who sure. What you
said in the first place was thebat verse of what we're doing has me
very very excited, and I'm verypassionate about it, so very so.
I'm excited. That sounds good.That part sounds really good. Yeah,
that was that was cogent, Jess. I think maybe there were a couple
of shots that espresso before that lastsentence, either of that or someone the
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person who transcribed it was just likeout of their brain. Yeah, coffee
pasting the shit out of it.Well, I mean I copied and pasted
that over here, So I mean, yeah, but you ever like coffee
paste a sentence fragment thinking you're gonnamake a whole sentence and don't edit it
later. Yes, but I didn'tdo that here. Yeah, I was
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assuming you had reported his sentence correctly. Also on January twelve, it was
reported that Matt Reeves was going tohave a meeting with Gun and Saffron sometime
this month, and Reeves said theyGun and Saffron have been great. We're
actually supposed to meet in the nextfew weeks because they want to talk to
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me about the broad plan, andthen they want to hear the bat Verse
plan. We're just getting together totalk about all of that. Look,
I'm excited to hear what they're goingto do. The bat Verse thing,
as James has said, and asPeter has said, is kind of his
own thing. They're letting us donice. He says, they have a
big plan, and I have thisbig bat Verse plan is just about us
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really getting to know each other.It's going to be fun. And they
also told Collider in regards to whatthe reveal another reveal, what the hellmet?
What the focus of the of thesequel will be, He says to
me, the thing that I reallyfeel is that I also believe that Rob
is so special in the role.My goal has always been to do these
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point of view stories that allow thecharacter to always be the emotional center of
the story, because a lot oftimes what happens is after you do the
first one, then suddenly other RoguesGallery characters come in and they kind of
take over, and then Batman takesa back seat character wise and emotionally.
So I'm down with, you know, Batman being the focus of the sequel.
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Yeah, I did that. Thatwould be fun. They're not wrong.
I mean, every time you doit, it gets like it's like
they go, oh, man,you were great at this. What if
we did this though, but youwere here too, uh huh? And
yeah, that would be nice toactually see another Batman movie. I presume
he has to get a haircut atsome point, right, maybe you can't
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keep the nineties haircut the entire time. Well, you can sort of do
it. I'm doing a decent jobof it myself. Yeah you are.
You can kind of do like anineties thing. No, we know how
like in the nineties we as asociety were kind of obsessed with like the
twenties through the forties. Yeah,yeah, that's the real thing. Yeah,
So he could just do like thatAndy Dofrain do from like Shawshank Redemption
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still have his long hair but kindof have it cut on the bat and
and that's very animated series. True, I just need to be able to
slick it up a little bit.For Bruce Wayne. You can slick it
just as it gets older, evenBruce Wayne. Yeah, true, true,
true. For some reason, Ithink in my in my cannon,
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like Bruce Wayne himself has to maturea little bit or it's not believable,
like if he was fifty five yearsold pretending he was a twenty two year
old bachelor. Like, I guessit could be done, but yeah,
that would draw more attention, Likeit would make more sense if we just
actually like dug in a little bitto some charities and and you know,
went to some actual board meetings andwas on time for once. I mean,
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I think that's what they were gettingat in the first one. Yeah,
I think they'll get there on thatat least. Sorry, honestly,
I just kind of feel like that'sfur, They're gonna go. Yeah,
maybe I'm wrong. In the sequel, he eats four bites of fruit,
really human growth there what squarely onlythey ate, And that entire thing was
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like that one little g asked oflike two grapes or some shit or whatever.
Was Hey, you know what Ido? I was just thankful he
ate something. Yeah, I don'teven think I noticed it. What I
noticed is when people will like sitdown for like a meal or whatever or
like, and they like their foodcomes and they've got like a whole hamburger
and a huge, you know,pile of fries, and then they're like,
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you know what we should do.We should go and like find the
you know, are my mother's killeror whatever it is. And then they
just get up, don't ask fora dog your bag, They just leave
the food sitting there. Yeah.Now, And like one character who's known
as being the playful one, likegrabs three fries on the way out.
Yeah, yeah, that's the tropeI remember. Yeah, hate it,
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hate it. It'd be like hGarth would go back and grab like three
fries and yeah, same way.I hate like the trope of like someone
dramatically lights a cigarette and they havea short conversation and then like the dude
like angrily tosses a cigarette and I'mlike, you just lit it, like
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there's this there's nothing there, Likeit's just like that. You didn't smoke.
You lit the end of a cigaretteand then threw it on the ground
and anger. The whole thing isis intact. I mean, to be
fair, the last time I actuallylit a cigarette, that was how it
how it went down for me.That's just a shame. But I thought
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it was a different kind of cigarette. No, and along having discovered,
having discovered what I gotten into,it was bounced. Uh it was.
It was dispatched quickly, ms fairenough. I didn't spend like the next
two hours of my evening throwing upI'm a driveway yikes. Yeah, what
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do you think? It was aTHHC cigarette or something. Yeah, but
the nicotine spends that's what a gamming. Ah yeah, got you a big
difference, got youa So someone asked, sorry, Yeah, yeah sure.
Someone asked for James Gunn's thoughts ona fan casting of Superman. I don't
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know who this was. I don'tknow the person, but um James said,
my thoughts are no one has beencast to Superman yet. Casting,
as is almost always the case withme, will happen after the script is
finished or close to finished, andit isn't. We'll announce a few things
in not too long, but thecasting of Superman won't be one of them.
And then it was like a littleMerman. He put a little Mrmaan
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emoji. It makes me think Aquamanis involved in this. Could be Um.
I mean his responses though. That'sanother thing I was pointing out earlier,
is like they seem just so goddamnpractical, right, Yeah, Like,
no, I don't know who Supermanis in the young version yet,
I haven't finished writing the script andquestion mark. On January thirteenth, he
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posted a picture of the Peacemaker castand he said one year ago today Peacemaker
debuted best group of people ever.Love and miss you guys, and see
you all soon. So that shouldanswer any questions anyone had about whether or
not he's erasing Peacemaker. Yeah,that should did great. In an interview
with Empire, he also teased thatsome Guardians of the Galaxy might show up
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in DC. He said this castlike my family. I cannot tell you
how close I am to Chris Prattand Palm and Dave and Zoe and Karen.
But I also know I will workagain with all of those people individually
again, probably at my other job. And also in this interview, he
said he referred to finishing The Guardiansof the Galaxy Volume three as his day
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job, and revealed that he considershis duties at DC Studios quote a very
healthy part time job. That's atleast they're forty to sixty hours a week.
Good lord, lovely, and he'sstill taking time out to to answer
our stupid questions on on Twitter.I mean he may be including that in
the time the pr management part ofit, possibly now. Rando on some
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objection to the idea of like bringingover the Guardians crew to the casting,
but like, honestly, I don'tactually care. No, I don't care
most of them, if not all, I would be perfectly happy to seeah
yeah yeah. In fact, heresponded to some of the backlash this,
Rando on Twitter said, please donot encourage Guardians of the Gas gassed the
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gas Guardians of the Galaxy cast tofollow you to DCU find fresh actors that
can craft brilliant characters and force newmemories for audiences instead of swimming in the
same muddy pond. I know Iam not alone and feeling this way.
Rebirth not reuse please, and Gunnsays, we have hundreds of roles to
cast, as I've always done.Some will be brand new faces, some
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will be actors I have worked withbefore, and some will be actors you
know who I've never worked with.What matters most is the actor fits the
role and they're easy to work with. Yeah. And then someone asked reiterated,
like, is some of the slatebe still being announced this month?
Yes? Like over and over againwe've seen that. He has said,
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yes, it will be happening,but sometime in January. Um, now
this is interesting. We should dolater, just a private like what would
you do with the Guardians cast andthe DC Universe thing? Oh? We
should we should maybe make that aPatreon exclusive. Okay? Um. Gail
Simone very good, very good.Comic book writer Gail Simone said on Twitter,
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Ray Palmer is the Scott Summers ofDC comics. I saw that.
I think gun said something like waitnow what hold on? No, no,
no, Gun said, Okay,hold on, And when you dig
deeper into her comics, you'll findthat she is specifically talking about how boring
Ray Palmer is as a character.Well, so I know this. I've
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never seen her talking about Ray Palmer. I do know this about her.
She fucking thinks Scott Summers is theworst, the worst character in the entire
moving reverse like she she hates him. She thinks incredibly boring and incredibly arrogant,
just an absolute waste of space.And I cannot believe that he was
actually in charge of the fucking Xminute certain times. So for her to
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say that Ray Palmer occupied that gunof space in DC is is like,
hold on, hold hold the funkup, Gail, all right, I
kind of agree about Scott Summers,but are we sure about Ray Palmer.
Let's have a conversation first. Yeah, and but this is so Yeah,
James said, Okay, hold on, which can be read a couple of
different ways. It could be readokay, hold on, like that's too
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far definitely how I read it.It could also be read as challenge accepted,
and likewise, Tom Taylor's comment toJames Gunn, which was yeah,
woe, could either be I'm fristwith James Gunn and I have known some
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stuff and holy shit, the coolstuff that's coming or yeah, whoa,
you went too far? I doknow this though. Also Tom Taylor and
Gell Simon have a an ongoing beef. I think gil Simon has an ongoing
beef with most people, basically everycomics writer. Yeah, she has actually
fun to follow. The trolling iseither innocuous or funny. It's rarely an
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actual like contention of any kind,and it's mostly her and Tom Taylor's mostly
like Tom Taylor accusing her of beinga bear. What is that? There's
a whole there's just an entire wholejoke on Twitter where Gil Simone is actually
just a bear, like a literalbear, like like a big masculine gay
guy. Nope, actually okay,oh like a oh okay, not even
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anthropomorphized, just an actual bear.And I need more context. I think
it's hard as crab, but it'sit's kind of funny to watch in there.
Yeah it's in good fun, mindyou, but all right, didn't
play along. I don't even knowwhat to do with that, man,
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do you understand me? I don'tknow what to do with it. I
don't know The joke is that TomTaylor thinks he's all night when Tom Taylor
he just picked it up. Ithink the rest of the joke existed before
him. But anyway, that's howit is. All right. They can
do it well, I guess,do an advanced Twitter search for Gail Simone
and bear if well, it's mostlyhurt finding yourself saying I promise I'm not
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an actual fucking bear and sitting herea picture of a dead salmon or something.
Are you sure, Gail, I'vefound this on my door the other
day. Well, okay, onthat note, it's time for a break
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and we come back. We're gonnabe talking about Jason Momoa's big DC news
and him addressing whether or not hewill the rumors are true about him not
playing Aquaman anymore, and a wholebunch of other stuff Sandman, Harley Quinn,
Superman and Lois Flash things. We'llbe right back. Alrighty, we
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are returned, returned to one ofthose also neither DC on screen this second
coming prepared to be raptured. Umit's a Stephen pretty version or I don't
know man. Alrighty, So JasonMomoa, he's in some big DC news.
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He put up a video he said, four years ago, I had
the jeep out front. Four yearsago. I was screaming, wasn't I
screaming when I left Warner Brothers fouryears again, it's a mystery, baby.
I got some really good news,great news with Warner Brothers. Amazing.
I wish I could tell you,but here it is. Peter,
I love you, James, Ilove you, David, to the future,
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to the future. And he actuallyjust to make sure that everyone understood
it was this was you know,DC news. They even had w b
DC on the video since the lasttime was a little murky about what it
meant. So m then in arecent interview with Variety, she didn't get
this cheap piece of viral. Idon't know what do you call it.
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It's not quite marketing, just hypepiece. Yeah. In a recent interview
with Variety, Mamoa was talking aboutmeeting with Gun and Saffron and he said
it was very, very wonderful.I'm in the house of Warner Brothers and
they're liking a lot of what I'mdoing. We've got a lot of good
things coming. The beautiful thing isme and my partner wrote the first treatment
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for Aquaman too, about a fiftyfive page treatment, and a lot of
it has to do with me talkingto the UN expediting what's going to be
happening with the melting ice caps.There's no far off galaxy coming to destroy
us. There's no aliens from anotherplace. It's just the idea of us
ruining our planet and the fact thatwe all need to get it together and
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save our home. So it's funto see it coming out this December.
And I'll always be Aquaman. Therumors aren't right. I'll always be Aquaman.
Ain't anyone coming in there and takingshit? And then there might and
then and then he leans back.I watched the video. He leans back
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and says, and then there mightbe some other characters too. I could
play other things, Stu. Icould be funny and savage and charming once
in a while. So that certainlysounds like he's playing Aquaman in Lobo.
It really does. It's I mean, going through the whole interview one,
Yeah, it makes sense that Aquamanwould be like the climate change leader goes
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to the UN. I'm sure it'sa very angry speech, and he's probably
very scary in the film, andlike I kind of like that who's involved
in the treatment. But after that, like, yeah, I mean seriously,
at this point, it would haveto be a literalcy change to actually
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have actually have another Aquaman. Andthat's fine. It can be done.
It can be done as much asyou know the third thing. Yeah,
dude, those three adjectives. Canyou think of anybody else? I can't.
I've been trying two for days.I cannot think of anybody else that
it fits more perfectly than Lobo.No, no, oh yeah no I
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can't. I can't. I wouldn'tmind if it did. I mean,
help shoot his mind is if yougot some But like, I'm sure,
damn it just it sounds like that, and we know he's excited because well
we know he likes that character,so he might be that excited. M
Yeah, I think he's playing.I think he's playing Lobo. I do.
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And apparently he's not gonna stop bean Aquaman. Yeah, right now,
it sounds like he's about to gettwo dcent characters under his belt.
I'm fine with that. Um,I'm good with it. Then, during
an interview with The Rap He's afun of Mamoa has been that he is
so fucking excited about his characters.Yeah, absolutely, And Momoa did reveal
that there will be multiple versions ofBatman uh in Aquaman too. He said,
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a shot with a couple of differentBatman's, but you just don't know
what's going on, and we'll seewhat the end product is. So maybe
he kind of sounds like he doesn'the's not sure that they'll one or both
of them will be in there.But he did shoot with a couple of
different Batman's and we know that wasKeaton and we know it was affleck M.
So this is a start. Seeeveryone's like talking about, you know,
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reboots and everything. I think they'rejust going so far multiverse. We're
not even gonna be having this conversationin a year. Yeah, but I
think we've talked about that before though, Like, if you're actually going to
try to make this continuity makes sense, you have no you have no choice
but to expand. Hmm. Iagree. Talking to the rap my Moa
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also confirmed that Tapo, the Atlanteanoctopus who plays the drums, will also
be returning. Fantastic. He said, oh yeah, he'll be back all
right, but it's hilarious, it'swonderful You're gonna love it. This moment.
I want you to remember that youasked me. It might be one
of the funniest moments of the wholemovie. I'm looking forward to that.
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I'm curious. During a recent appearancethat a fan expo in in San Francisco,
Desire actor Mason Alexander Park talked aboutthe decision to not refer to the
new episodes of Sandman on Netflix asseason two. Mason said Netflix has not
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gone on record as calling it asseason two on purpose, and so I
will from now on and in thefuture and possibly until the end of the
universe, not referred to it asseason two until we know what it is.
There is more Sandman coming in areally cool way, and I can
take and it can take many forms. So we're starting shooting in the summer
and we're going to tackle the nexthuge chunk of stories and however long that
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might take, and I'm really excitedto share the format of what that will
that might be with everybody eventually.I'm just so excited there's more of Sandman
coming that feels fitting to reply toDesire this way and just say I don't
give a fuck, Just bring it. Call it, whatever the fuck you
want to call it. Just bringme the new episodes and I will play
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set them. Thank you very much. M Harley Quinn one Best Animated Series
of the Critics Choice Awards. Thankgod. I mean, how do you
not? I mean, I don'treally care about awards insofar as they don't
I don't either confirm my biases.But I liked that that one one.
Yeah, that's nice. Yeah.Superman and Lois season three. They released
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a trailer for it. I sentit to you. How'd you feel?
Looks good? Not caught up.I don't think you have to be um,
looks fine. That has always beenthe best like cinematic show on the
ZW and the CEOs. New Jonathan'shair looks awful. I didn't catch that.
I just wish you. You know, old Jonathan used to comb his
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hair back, you know. Andthis one like has like a mo from
the Three Stooges. Look, youknow, he looks like he stumbled out
of a you know, Star TrekStrange New World's casting call or something.
It might look Legit have been ayear and a half, two years.
I feel like the first one hadlike a quaff um I describe it.
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Like a what's that fifties style quaff? Or everything was head which one like
a papadoor. No, not apompadoor. It was like like a greaser
haircut, a little bit like Egonin the cartoon, and I call that
a popadoor. But yeah, Idon't know. I thought a popadour or
something if it. But now thatpapadoor is like what Conan has Conan and
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Brian, I don't know. That'sokay? Is that pomp? No more
more circular, like going all theway. You really are talking about what
Egon had? What? What?Uh? What Chris Tucker had in the
fifth Element where it's just like rollerto the top of his head? Yeah,
yeah, that is basically, Ah, what are those? A little
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like treat sweet steat as a kidthat were like a like I eat anything
like that. It was like awhite filling with a circular little Chris chrispy
kind of pastry thing and a clearernot a clear God, damn, I
don't know what you're talking about.I don't know. We were talking about
your candy cocks or something. Idon't know. No, it's it's you
know, it was like sucking thewhite cream out of the candy cock.
You know, don't you remember?It's roughly what I was doing, but
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it was much better, definitely moresugary. I don't think the guy would
transfer to that particular context. That'swhat I said, candy cock. I
feel like it was like a God, this's gonna it's gonnamy, like a
sugar than savory. I don't lookit up in candy horn. Yeah,
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I don't know. Was that acream horn? A cream horn? I've
I am a fat man with typetwo diabetes, and I have never heard
of a cream horn. I feellike I feel like you would eat in
a cream horn if you'd run acrossit. Probably, But I've never heard
of what you of what you speak. This is just sitting around and I
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know, I know your backstory,I know how your family lived. Like
you're just sitting around drinking gallons ofsweet tea and eating cream horns all day.
It feels about right. Oh mygod, No, I don't.
I don't know what you're talking about. I'll send it to you later.
I'll find it. God damn it. Yeah, let me half tone now.
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Oh like looked down at my phone, be like, tell my wife,
you won't know what I'm talking about. I'd be like, oh good
dudes, Jason sent me a pictureof his candy cock. I remember the
worst part, as if they werestale somehow all that sugar didn't matter.
But oh no, it was Frenchlike in its in its spirit, you
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know, like it had to bea fresh one because that that was delightful
and fluffy and airy. But ifit wasn't, you just like threw it
away after the first part, Likeno, just goddamn you all that that
whole four pack. Gave it afour pack. I don't know why I
remember that part. It wasn't justlike prepackaged. It was like the packaging
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with the cellophane rat like someone madethese and put them out of package.
No, it just sounds like atwinkie, an elevated Twinkie, an elevated
twinkie, a cream pie horn ofplenty. Yeah, oh god, wherever
the fuck this was? All right? So? Yeah, I thought Superman
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Lois looked pretty good. Uh,looked epic and whatnot, and I'll look
forward to it. Uh. Whatcaught me off guard was I actually was
found myself looking forward to the finalseason of The Flash after looking at their
trailer. It actually looked pretty good. Did you did you watch that trailer?
I did? I did it,and it did. I am so
far behind that. Yeah, I'velost a couple of references there, but
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overall the gist of it, yeah, I'm down. I'm half a season
by going to finish these shows.By the way, just for the record,
I'm curious. I like the ideathat Barry of Barry, like what,
I just got so far behind it'sintimidating now to try to do so
We've got Barry having made this liketime map, and I really liked this
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idea of him basically spoiling their lifefor Iris. I would be so fucking
mad, right yeah, Like,oh hey, Irish, you're gonna get
pregnant three months? How great isthat? Dude? What livid? Stop
it? Like though, as aperson who deals with depression and anxiety,
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the one thing I would not likeis to know what's happening, because the
one thing that actually helps with thedepressed and anxiety is the hope part.
And I mean well, I mean, granted, granted, hold on,
let me back up. That's probablywhy I've been so depressed. Granted at
in the situation, Grant came tome and be like, dude, you
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you come up with a billion dollaridea and in seven months you literally sell
it. You have three point threepoint four billion dollars in the bank.
Okay, I wouldn't mind knowing aboutthat, But if it was normal life,
it was just normal life with actual, real expectations. Expect dude,
just just leaving my hope and andlet me deal with my emotions and you
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know, try to try to tryto deal with the expectations part. I
think I only want prophecy for thegood things. Yeah, even that,
what if you fuck often expect thattoo much and and fuck it up?
Yeah, it's true, that's true. Probably not a good idea to have
any kind of knowledge of your future. Typically, it's my idea. Like
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if I was in a quantum leapkind of situation, it would be I
don't actually want to know how thisgets better, but I wouldn't mind a
hint. Oh, you know,you don't want to hint. You're gonna
wind up like Shatterer in uh inthe Twilight Zone, cranking pennies into the
damn the devil box, like takingslips of paper, you know. I
mean, yeah, dud, dude, I got my sister for Christmas,
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and apparently she got it for metoo. She hasn't got it yet,
like she bought it but it gotmessed up or something. But we wound
up buying each other the same shirtthat has that devil on it from the
Twilight Zone and it's like Mystic Seersand it has like the posta like all
the little possible answers on it andstuff. I lovely. Yeah, anyway,
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I wouldn't want the one map,but I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't
mind a pointed finger sometimes. Yeah, just like like Bruce Almighty, just
driving along going God, just giveme a sign. There's like all these
signs in front of him on thetruck. There's literally a truck carrying a
bunch of signs that say stop anykind of sign. Lord. Yeah,
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it feels right. I wouldn't gotoo far though. They're like, oh,
if that's gonna happen. You've gota Gotham Knight's trailer. What do
you think it looks better than previousit? I thought it did look better
than it has previously. I sawa talent in there, and I went
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well for a show that will probablybe canceled after the first season most likely,
and for a show that like howto put this, UM looks all
right. Referencing my previous problems withhow it's going to take me years to
catch up on the CW, Iknow this show technically does not have that
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problem. I could just start watchingit. My problems are still with watching
things on the CW. It stillsucks h So there's always gonna be that,
And that's also what's held me upfor years now. I just lost
patience. But this show looked likesomething I would watch if it was definitely
more ready readily available. I guess, like if I could just you know,
stream the damn show without seventeen commercialsabout how I shouldn't be vaping,
(39:58):
even though I'm not, uh huhso. Looking at the trailer, though,
I did think it looked better thanit did before. UM. A
lot of people are angry because apparentlythey were talking about Batman being dead and
they had a quick shot of copslike walking up to a body in a
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like a freaking three piece suit wearinga Batman cowl laying on the ground,
and people are like, Batman looksstupid in this show, Like this is
what Batman looks like he's just wearinga suit with a cowl. I don't
think, yeah, I either theysomeone killed Bruce Wayne and put a Batman
cowel on him, Like that's becausethey knew who he was. Easily like,
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you could probably buy that at arandom costume shop and Gotham and just
throw it on Yep. Easily explainable. Or it's just some other rando has
been killed and someone stuck a Batmanmask on him trying to frame Batman.
I mean, there's so many differentpossibilities. I don't think they literally we're
saying this is this was Batman's costume. He was just wearing a Bruce Wayne's
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suit with a mask. No,no version involves him doing that. And
it would be much harder to dressthat dead man in a suit than it
would have put a cow on hisface. I mean, I just think
it's stupid thing to be mad about, and it's clearly not what they're doing.
Have you ever tried to dress afour year old who wants to be
asleep, right, it's hard andthey weigh about forty pounds. M hmm,
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it's not imagine dressing a two hundWhat do you think he's worth two
hundred thirty five pounds, mostly mussel. I don't know. I'd rather just
put a cow on his head andcalled a day. Sure, I'd say
so, Um, you want totalk about some feedback real quick and wrap
her up up? Cool man?Uh? Hunter Iggy on YouTube says DC
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on screen, what's up, guys? It's up? Man? Hey,
Sorry, I'm sorry, dude.I was expecting David to talk. I
don't know what I was supposed todo in the meantime. Yeah, that
sounded very excited about I was supposedto you know. Well, I mean
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I was expecting more comment. Igot noth What did this person say?
What's up? Guys? That's it? That was it? Oh? Hey,
hey, that's it okay. Call on YouTube says I'm a lifelong
DC fan and I will never paya penny for a DC product with James
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Gunn's name attached. You have everybit of that right, but I'll guarantee
you this right now, my brotherin Christ. You will, yeah,
you will absolutely do it. You'llwatch it. At least you might download
it illegally. That's a real thing. It might take, you know,
two or three years of you claimingthat it sucks. And then when some
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friend of yours says, well,just just give it a try, and
then you'll be grudgingly sit there andwatch it. Oh yeah, but you
you'll see it. At least Iwould imagine it'll happen. Uh, Eli
Hernandez says over on Patreon. Justwant to let you guys know you're doing
a great job. Keep it up. Thanks, Hey, Eli. One
of our our sainted patrons instead ofpatron saints after the movie, of course.
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Yeah. And then another another ofour wonderful patrons, Giuseppe Vicaretti aka
Juice, the Juice you know,uh that convicted no unconvicted film. Noah,
he wasn't. He talked about ojetcivil court, that's not convicted.
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Yeah. We're of a certain age, you know, where if someone says
juice or oj we think of O. J. Simpson and it'll never not
be that way. Like I dostill think firstly or first of the simply
orange brand. Oh what is delightful? I can get high pulp and joy.
(44:06):
We know O. J. Simpsongot high pulp. Yeah, slicing
into those throats I mean and ranslowly away from it. Yeah. Just
Eppie says, I have two questionsfor you guys. Fascinating how people don't
even know what the fuck are we'retalking about. It's called a cream pie,
cone of plenty, horn of plenty, whatever it was, Justifie says,
(44:30):
I have two questions for you guys. So we know Gun is pinning
the script for a younger but notto a young Superman. Do you guys
have any fan castings you want tothrow out? Yeah, Harry Cavill just
out of nowhere with no Uh,you don't know premptive factors whatsoever. Yeah,
(44:52):
just what if Harry Cavill did this? Yeah, I think it'd be
great. Um, I don't knowany of these people, Like I keep
seeing p both thrown out ideas forfan casts, and I'm just like,
uh, I don't know any ofthese these guys. Like everyone's talking about
this kid from you for you,I have no idea what that is.
I've not seen you. For youheard great things. I have not seen
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it. Uh yeah, I haven'teven heard great things. I don't know
anything about it. I'm one stepfarther. So I guess I got nothing
on the fan castings for the newuh the Gun era. Yeah, we
could probably do that. M giventime and Patreon. Perhaps possibly well hell
(45:34):
I don't, I don't know,maybe that that might actually be worthy of
of an actual news feed, ofan actual main feed. I mean,
well, that part's true. Itwould it would mean just as much one
way or the other as an itmeans fuck all. Yeah yeah, um
Gieseppe continues, Also, have you, guys picked up any of the McFarland
toys pre orders that have just dropped? Keep up your great job up guys,
(46:00):
can't wait for more, for moreepisodes to come. Thank you,
man, thank you. I havenot picked up any of the McFarland toys
pre orders. I don't pre orderanymore because more than a couple of times,
whenever you get pre orders, youwind up walking into the store several
months later and they're on the shelfand you still haven't gotten your damn pre
(46:22):
order. And also there's a wholething where like certain stores target um we'll
just be like, oh, yeah, well we sent you an email and
said, hey, do you stillwant this thing you ordered? And if
you don't respond within a day,they cancel your pre order or something like.
It's some bullshit like that. Yeah. I don't check. I don't
(46:44):
check my email every day. I'vegot like eighteen eight different email addresses,
so anyway, i've been or Ihave all my email addresses since like nineteen
ninety seven. Yeah, I haveto constantly ask you which one I'm supposed
to send something to. I alwaystell you the same one, but I
never know. No, you do, you do? I swear to God
(47:07):
you do. It's the same oneevery time, it is, But you've
told me the other one a coupleof times. Um, I don't think
so yep, maybe I have.Maybe I have you lost access to the
one for a minute. Okay,I don't. I don't know what the
source was. I don't know whatyou're talking about. But okay, oh,
(47:30):
any case, yeah, that wouldjust send things comfortably to the one.
Yeah yeah, um yeah, SoMcFarland Man, McFarland toys. I
want, I want all. Iwant so many of them, not all
of them, but I want somany of them. Yeah. Yeah,
there's sexual yeah, like just eventhough like the sixty six figures that they've
(47:50):
been putting out, like they justannounced King Tutt, I gotta I'm gonna
have to get King Tutt. I'mnot gonna pre order it from Target because
screw target their bullshit quite a fewtimes. Um. Christopher white Over on
Facebook says, I have a question, how do you feel about Jason Momoa
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playing Aquaman and Lobo in the DCU. Is there any precedent for them?
Crossing paths in the comics could bea little immersion breaking if not handled right.
Um, I don't know about precedentfor them in the comics there they
sort of operate, not in toosimilar circles. Yeah, from time to
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time Lobo will be you know,in a Justice League story or something.
But yeah, that's about all thereis to that as far as the precedents.
But him playing them both that alltracks. Yeah, I don't have
any problem with it, Like forme, you know, I mean,
I liked, I know, let'sscratch that. I loved seeing Brandon Routh's
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Ray Palmer standing next to Brandon Routh'sSuperman. Yeah, in Crisis on Infinite
Earths. Yeah, it does notbother me in the slightest not dimension.
I imagine they would make especially ifthey're dealing with the theatrical budget, They're
gonna make Lobo a bit bigger.I imagine they're gonna, you know,
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whether they say it's because he's wearinglike the Giant like boots or whatever.
He's gonna be taller than Aquaman.I would bet you anything. They don't
just do like pale white skin.I think they'll probably do some sort of
texture to it. They'll drag themup a little. And also, you
know, I've you know, justjust talking to friends and whatnot, and
(49:40):
like just playing around and photoshop.I've made Joseph Jason Momoa look like Lobo
and he don't look that different.I mean that that's similar to Aquaman,
like he's I mean, they getthey changed his hair, They you know,
took away the eyebrows, gave himthe big black pointy tattoos around his
eyes or whatever the hell those are. Yeah, I mean he just he
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looks different. Yeah, he looksdifferent. They make him a little more
muscular, cgi m a little bit, give him some texture. He'll be
fine. It'd be good. It'llbe fine. It won't bother me at
all. Now, if if forwhatever reason, Aquaman and Lobo wind up
in the same scene, which Idoubt will happen, I want an R
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rated Christmas movie where he goes afterSanta Claus. That would work. I
would go into the way with itthough, Like I'll bet if they cast
him as Lobo, they do itand intentionally combined those characters, you think,
so, Yeah, hanging Lannard.I can see them doing that too.
Yeah, it'd be kind of weirdjust to not mention it. I
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don't know that it would. I'mdown either way, though, I'm absolutely
down either way. Stick him nextto each other, don't stick him next
to each other. I think Gunnis gonna start doing building out his version
of the DCU. This is mytheory. He'll start to building out his
version of the DCU with his Supermanwhile also operating within the quote unquote Snyder
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verse, and by the end ofit, it won't even matter which one
is which because it'll be there willbe so much multiverse shit going on.
Yeah that's my guess. Yeah thatworks for me. Yeah, it works
for me too. If not excited, I'm interested to see what's gonna happen.
It's gonna be interesting. Like I'mnot like, whoa excited, you
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know, but I'm like sitting therewith a pipe, you know, going
like, oh I'm riveted. Ohthis is the tension is killing me.
Yeah, I mean we're way pastbeing just excited for no reason at nons
back, and they haven't outright justoutright given us the New Slate yet,
(51:52):
So no reason to be excited forthings that aren't, you know, at
least theoretically in order. Yeah,uh it'll yeah, it's just give it
a couple of weeks, I guess, in this case nine days, and
then we can be excited or unexcitedentirely. Yeah see, and we will
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get back to you and let youknow obviously as soon as we can.
Like shit, man, I mightdo an emergency episode if I have to.
M m, yeah, that's happened. Those happen, so I don't
know, but that's it. That'sall. That's all we got for this
episode. Uh, thank you tothe patrons Patreon dot com, slash d
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We are not professional broadcasters. Everynight I pray for death, yeah,
(53:00):
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