Gunn-Approved "Superman" Spoilers + NYCC News + Trailers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were listening to DC on Screen.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right? Starting up this episode of DC on Screen,
I'm David c. Robertson here with Jason Goss and Elders. Hello,
you were in my place.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I am here. I'm physically next to you.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Weird.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
I am the same bathroom. It is weird.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Why do you go to using the same bathroom?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Because I felt like that would fit this show's you know,
sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Maybe it's true.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
See it's true.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's not, it's not, it's not you know, it's not
mean or anything.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
We typically mention the general state of.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
It about halfway through exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Did we do that in our early thirties or did
we do that in our thirties or our teens when
it feels like this show started, Did we do what
mentioned our bladders so much?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
And they're, oh, I don't know, maybe what I would
have to go back and listen to old episodes, and
for me, that is torment.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I mean, in the last ten years of the movie,
link went up, and I assume our pelvic floors have suffered.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So Lord knows, my pelvic floor has suffered.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
The combination there is not gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Good, Okay, you guys want to do the show.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh right, there was DC stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's DC stuff that we need to
catch up on. Uh I I did. I was looking
around at some of our old reviews just kind of
haphazardly the other day and saw one.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
That actually just thinking about them at two thirty in
the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, no, uh well it was about two thirty in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
But that one, that one's time.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I came I came upon one that was like
they were they were mad they were running a negative review,
you know, because we had said something anti Trump, you know, yeah,
and lots of people about half the country.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, hopefully slightly more hopefully that'd be nice.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And slightly more or it doesn't matter. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, but uh in the review, this person is going
like just pulling out all the stops to be shitty.
And they were like, yeah, I mostly just listen to
these two in the background. All they do is regurgitate
what other podcasts have said. And I was like, I
remember talking about this on the show and being like,

(02:34):
I do not regurgitate what other podcasts say. I don't
listen to other podcasts.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm usually like, oh, you guys are really different in
this opinion than everybody else because I do listen to
other shows and.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, well that's nice, that awesome, but.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I listened to them later in the queue.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Don't offended much like I am not offcause that's how
long it takes us to get our news out. Yeah
we're we fucking take a long time.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah we're good.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But usually you do find more ship that other people
have just skipped over, so.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That is generally, uh my point of pride. Oh yeah,
we've got a few more points though, assholes.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
You miss this the benefit of letting the sand settle
down a little bit here.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And we have benefited from it numbers wise, No, we haven't.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
That was solely what we're going for.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
We should have been fostering hate. We would have been
so much more popular.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
And every episode should be named this episode will change
your life, right.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I don't reasons why. I feel like you're describing a
DC show I'm not listening to, so I'm not sure
it exists because I listened to a lot of it.
But also there's not as much as they're used to.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Be, Like James gunn Is masturbating on baby cheetahs.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean, have you seen those pelts like the little
patterns cute as ship. I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's weird.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Now, technically they're not of age, so I don't condone.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know what, I'm officially okay with kink shaming now.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Finally, so fast it did. There was a shark, it
jumps here we are.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
The shark jumped and I came and then that was
the problem and.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Everyone learned very important. That's right.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Meanwhile, what were you saying about starting the show? Oh yeah,
we got a show to start.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Just oh, this show shoved some shove some news at us.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
So here's some news. No no, no, no, no, no no no,
hopefully roughly in order of when it will be coming
out Watchmen Chapter two, which you know, what I've seen
some people saying is like been pushed back to twenty
twenty five. I no evidence of that other than just
weird sight saying it. IMDb is still saying November twenty sixth,

(05:06):
twenty twenty four, So that's what I'm going by.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
If there's not an official update, it's not moved, right,
that's weird.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, so we saw a trailer that came out a
few weeks ago or chapter two. Mm hmm, how are
y'all feeling it.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It looked slightly clunkier than the first one. No, I
haven't seen the first movie entirely yet because I was
waiting for part two, but I've seen that trailer, and
in this one it was slightly more apparent to me
that there were just some movements that felt kind of squarish,
kind of rowbody, because I like the look a lot
more in the in the first half, I guess, and

(05:44):
I still like the animation, but it's it's the Rorshak
fight at the jail is just kind of weird, but
then other bits of action from the prison escape seem fine.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
So it's it's kind of kind of up and down
in that regard. But the voice acting still seen on
the point.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, I didn't. I didn't like the line You're locked
up in here with me. I didn't like not like
the voice.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
No, No, that was kind of an under me to age.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, but I do agree some of the animation looks
very rigid. The gravity seems a bit off. M I mean,
it does look a lot like the comic, and I
do understand the people who are like it looks like
a Telltale game animation. It kind of.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Does guess, but still, it's nice to have something that
is just a straight adaptation for it is people in
our lives who refuse to read a good book.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, we were, we were just talking about that. Yeah,
my wife doesn't get around a reading, and I do
want her to know of Watchmen.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, the real version.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, otherwise you can't watch the HBO show and you
need to watch the HBO show and yeah, oh yeah
that the rabbit hole goes deep.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I mean so just what like I'm always going to
be fine with the they edit for the Snyder version
of this, but yeah, oh yeah, what are you gonna
do with the squids if you don't know what's why?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Do you don't know why the squid?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah? So if you know, if you're looking for the trailer,
you want an easy access point, I will have it
in the show notes, both the red band and the
clean version. If you're a cloistered little lamb, isn't.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
A clean cut of the of the movie?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Right? Like? Probably not? Yeah, so probably not.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
But you know, for the kids who want to have
something to look forward.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
To, yeah, I don't know why they would even bother
with a clean version of the trailer. Honestly either whatever.
I thought it was odd that it was there.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, borderline feels like giving out, you know, drugs
and like Halloween candy kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
What are you doing microdosing? Micro dosings?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, like, why would you show me a clean version
of this? When I get to the real one, there's
gonna be blood, millions of people dead, grewesome, gruesome deaths,
and giant blue dick. And that's what that's what.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
We all right, I forget the dick is a problem.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Giant, giant, hilariously blue dick.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I mean, is it that big? In this iteration? I
didn't pay attention to the dick. It was.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Up every time.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, yeah, no, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I didn't pay attention to the dick either.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, but it does grow at a certain point. That's fair.
That's accurate representation of the story.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's just a it's just a part that's always cracked
me up about his his moving around the size thing.
I mean, I finally got to see what what you
my version of that joke in a Ricking Morty episode later,
Oh with the giant floating corpse, Oh right, right.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Of course, very early. I was about to say I
watched all of it and recently relatively speaking, and just
forgot that one. But that is early on, so it
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Which makes my brain dolphin of to the doctor evil
spaceship that looks like a cock and balls.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Oh of course, yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
All right. Creature Commandos coming out December fifth, twenty twenty
four New York Comic Con. They dropped a new trailer.
What are we thinking, y'all?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Looks great?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
It does, it does?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, this is just this is exciting, Like it's not
the mainstream general audience launch of the universe, but for
us way to in the no Geeks, it is very
very fun to have something so forward to like coming
out again and being connected to something and very much

(09:42):
being in the vein of a Peacemaker and the Suicide
Squad and still very much connected to that universe as well.
But you know, there's that's the slightest of indication where
things are eventually going to go and reference the still
sort of included stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So m I'm down, yeah, I I you know, right
out of the gate, serious's being a badass. We get
cong Gorilla, the Golden Gorilla, who is murdered instantly in
the trailer.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I am very happy you knew who that was because
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yes, I do. But while back, James gun was pointing
out that like there were like like DC comic book
covers that had gorillas, like the stories that were about gorillas,
Like they sold way better than anything else.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
So there were a dozen of them.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Everybody wanted a gorilla every month, and they put down like, Okay,
no one can have you know, there's only one title
a month can have a gorilla until like one month
out of the year where all of them have to
have gorilla. Oh, and but there's so many like gorillas
acting like or human acting gorillas in the in the

(10:53):
DC universe. And then James Gunn came out and explained
that and was like, by the way, there will be
no gorilla limitations in the DCU except he just killed
one of them really quickly.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, go figure. There's the one on My Adventures with Superman,
and I forget which one it is.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh, I haven't watched it yet. I've watched part I've
watched like the first five or six episodes, and then
I got Bethany wanted to watch it, so I stopped
watching it and we'll get to it.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Sure, I haven't finished the second season, so you know,
I'm not up to date either.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but I'm but an episode into that one, I think.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, Like I'm like, where's Congo Bill? Like that was
cong Gorilla's sidekick or whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh no, the sidekick is now lonesome, well dead, it
would appear, Oh this is the sidekick.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, cong Gorilla, the Golden Gorilla is.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Congo Bill sidecake.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I twisted that around for a second.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'm not sure, like what we're looking at. We looked
like a Cyclops rubber duck in there, like notes for
Rota was there, Chemo was there in the trailer, in
the in the Bell rev I pretend I know all
of them.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Cyclops rubber duck. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I'm only about in about half right now from what's
been mentioned.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, Zoo crew, and.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I'm familiar with chemo, but usually you know someone's having cancer.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, this is like he's like toxic radiation incarnate Like
that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, he's like a big green
blob of toxicity.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
It also sucks, but it has less interest in your
continued future.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
But no, basically, there was like a duck there that
only had in the bell rev Or Belle Reeve and
it had one eye, which threw me off. I was like,
if it had two eyes, I would think it was
like a Zoo Crew reference to rubber Duck. But he
only had the one eye, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
And the other eye wasn't on the other side of
his head.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
No, No, it was like a very centered Leela looking eyeball.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, okay, that's that's where I was going with it. Mentally,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
By the way he lost the rubber duck as you know,
intentionally attractive as Leila.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
No, just making sure by the way, Jason, I need
to go back for it. You know, you should. You should,
just like I don't know, find a god to pray
to that I become rich often, dude, Because yesterday we
were at second in Charles and I saw like it
was like one hundred and twenty five bucks, but it

(13:32):
was a it was a badass Shawn of the Dead figure.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh that one.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, it was awesome. And I was like, oh, what
about that for Jase, who have.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Sean himself?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, bloodied cricket bat in hand.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
From the distance I was standing, I'm not sure he
was bloodied. But he looked like he had the appropriate cut. Nice. Anyway,
back to this Creature Commando's trailer, it looks like Rupert
Thorn is here, and it looks like he's directly responsible
for Doctor Phosphorus becoming powered. That's a shift, but I
like it. I'm loving like the family flashbacks, like we

(14:10):
are as they put it, you know, hyperbolically violent is
what this trailer is going for. But there are lots
of like hints at really touching family shit, like touching backstory.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It is very clear they're going for like we'll have
a flashback for each and every one of them, and
you will care, like Theesel will have a story that
will make you cry. That's that's what That's the sense
I'm getting from Gun in this.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Trade, James, Gun, your ass so hard.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Like the bullying of Nina as well. That going Oh God,
But already I'm gonna say, g I Robot is quickly,
quickly becoming my favor. I thought it was gonna be
Doctor Phosphorus because of Valentutic, but g I Robot is
absolutely really up there.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's still a close race, but I feel you.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like Di Nasi, he's not a Nazi.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
G I.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Love a lot of the aesthetic here when doctor Phosphorus
like puts his fist or that soldier, they had so
much Kirby crackle.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Dude, Oh my god, you're right. I didn't. I didn't
think to like connect those dots, but it's true.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
And they had they just like threw clay face in
here like this. I think this is this isn't one
of our first real Batman villains in this universe.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh damn, now you I deliberately did not posit as
much as you clearly have to like notice everything, because
I was like Rupert Thorne, really dang, okay, I was just.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Thinking with Rupert, I would not want to be in
this company. Get out, Rupert. Yeah right, go threaten another
corner of your own home. Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
M I even like the little Young Love easter egg?
Did you? Did you catch that? Jason the the Bride
is reading Young Love, which was it was an old
it was an old thing. It was Jack Kirby and
Joe Simon did this book called Young Romance that was

(16:05):
a big success, and cres Wooden Prize started Young Love
as an attempt to capitalize on that, and it ran
in nineteen seventy seven. DC owned it for a while,
but yeah, it's it's just an old comic that one.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Of those deep cuts that is very gun Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, and there was one of the They did a
recent version of it with like the bride on the cover,
so that's a thing of course. But yeah, that that
trailer just looks so good to me.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
It's it's absolutely great. Like for everything we could nick
pick about the animation in the Watchman thing, uh huh,
this has none of that. It just looks very very
good for a TV show that's animated, like I got
HBO as money.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
But yeah, also kind of looks stylized like old MTV
animated series.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Sure, but like in a really good way.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, in a really good way like f Fox or
Oh okay, okay, I can kind of see.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That specifically, the shot with the eyeballs flying out.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I actually, you know what that reminded me of. That
reminded me of the Tick from from the old Tick
cartoon from Fox Kids. Oh god, yeah, I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Allowed to watch Fox Kids as a kid, you know,
it's it was the right time.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Did you have Fox Kids.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
That existed for a bit in my Yeah, that would
have been strange.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, but I.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Don't know, Like the moment in my life, I had
no connection to Fox. What is that? Is that connected
to anything? Is that terrible for the world. No, it
was just it was just a kids channel that that
existed for a while and that was renamed like three
more times. You know.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
At the time that was more more, the more the
case before it was ominous.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, as a kid, I didn't I didn't know yet
what would become these days.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Fox Kids is just Tucker Carlson being like, Hello, boys
and girl, colorful BOI.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Have you heard of Alex Jones? Yeah, well he was
right about nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh, your parents just heared jet fuel from another room
and come running.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
As they should or hell yeah, depending on your parents.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
That's that's true. It's a very divided country.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, all right, so they we we already knew that
Steve g was coming back from Suicide Squad and Peacemaker
as Economos and Maria Bakalova from Guardian's Volume three was
voicing Princess Elana and Anya Chilothra. I guess as seriously,

(18:47):
and but God did announce that we're gonna get Michael
Rooker on Creature Commando's Linda Cardellini, Peter Sarafanowitz, those are
disclosed rolls.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Dang it.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Excited about all three of them. Yeah, and Benjamin Byron
Davis as Rupert Thorn all right in Creature Commandos.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So he's not going to take my advice, no, dumb fuck.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I think Rupert Thorn, the character from Batman the animated series,
that version of him has probably one of my most
off quoted lines, which is, uh, the brighter the picture,
the darker the negative.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
That's a good line.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
He has his hinge people looking for a dirt on
Harvey Dent.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
They're like, yeah, clean, he squeaks, yeah, keep digging, remember Candace,
the brighter the picture, the darker the negative.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
And it sure was. It was.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was very dark, alrighty. So he also talked about
the Creature Commandos tons, tone and aesthetic. I would say,
is this is We've talked about this before. He's talked
about this before. Yeah. He says every single project out
of the DC Studios is going to be his own thing.
The tones will differ between Superman, Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow,

(20:11):
the Lanterns. He says it's a connected universe, but We're
not imposing any overall esthetic and executive producer Dean Lourie
of The Creature Commandos said that the aesthetic of Creature
Commandos is Eastern European. We were looking to do something
that was sort of grounded but with some style to it.
It's got a lot of really dark, dark tones. The

(20:33):
palets are really cool, but as you can see, it's
very action oriented. It sells it self apart from say,
Harley Quinn and those kind of shows. It feels more adult.
Alan Tutik said, it is an adult show and it
has all the adult things. One of those things is sex.
Hot Laurie said, maybe the one thing that this series

(20:55):
has in common with Harley and to some extent, kite Man,
even though those are pretty clear. The comedies, we took
them seriously dramatically. We took the relationships very seriously when
there was a death or anything like that, but we
wanted people to feel it. So that was a little
bit of a crossover because this gave us an opportunity
to do sorry, to fully, to more fully do that
than we could do in a pure comedy. All of

(21:19):
that sounds good to me. I you know, I'm I
know We're not like crazy. We're from America, so we're
not crazy about just having cartoon characters having sex.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
But have you been on the internet. You guys are
leading the world in having cartoon characters do sexy stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, but not where we're gonna have to talk about
it publicly and admit that we like it. Right, We're repressed.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh, I'm sorry. This is for closed doors only.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
This is also a DCL screen where we genuinely do
feel uncomfortable when Bruce Timp produces anything anymore because of
his obsession with nipples.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Absolutely, that is, but that is that is not how
anything works.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, but I think I'm becoming more acclimated to it
because I'm just like whatever. Yeah, it's easier to ignore,
especially like with things like with things like Harley Quinn
where they like they say fuck every five seconds and
you know they're blood you know, just like murdering people,
and then you know, Harley pulls down the top for

(22:21):
a second and they like blur it out. I'm like,
why agree, what do you think you're gaining?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
But at the same time, despite it being undoubtedly tvm
A like this, the sex scene is not going to
be full frontal nudity.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I doubt it not in.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
The same way that, like, I expect it to be
handled the way it would be in an rated movie.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, maybe probably, but like it's still not X rated.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I expect to see.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I expect to see the wart on the dick hitting
that clip.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's what I'm is that how you have sex? No, Okay,
just because it feels very specific, I don't think I've
ever had anyone describe the act like that.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I sincerely just thought of the most grotesque thing I
could imagine at the moment. Fair enough, that's what most
of my humor.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Is, I know, But in that regard, I'm I mean,
I'm glad you didn't go further, but I feel like
there could be more grotesque.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean, at the climax, the warp begins to bleed and.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Pot, I shouldn't I shouldn't have fried. I really shouldn't
poke the bear like this.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
No, it'll keep going, Yeah it will, just it will
just the'll die on that hill.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I've listened to hours of this podcast, trust me, I
know it.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Will go on, and this very conversation and your usage
of not poking the bear is what will make We'll
start the wave across the world. Women will stop choosing
the bear. Yeah, I mean the bear pokes back.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Most bears not only interested in twinks anyway, I've heard, Yeah,
they won't, like it's pair. What are women supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I know? I mean, is that way? Is that the
bear they've been talking about this whole time?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't think so, because in that case, they would
they it would just be a bad choice all around,
and they'd have to guess which one's the bear and
which one's legitimately just a Harry says head guy, and
at that point you're fucked. You know, well I don't.
I don't think that's what most people were answering, like
that's they didn't picture that, But I'm picturing it now,

(24:37):
so you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's all good. We all get there eventually.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, truly, around here, you could easily disguise yourself
as a bear or if you are a bear, because
basically everyone here looks like a just over a slightly
over large bearded dude exactly. So I mean that's what
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
If you're in the woods, how are you like you
need to interact with them to find out which one?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You know, all this bit truly, and we have real
wood and that's bears.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah that too.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I feel like we should talk about the next thing.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
That's fair, right, d C d C stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, probably onto a thing that Batman uh sorry, Batman,
onto a thing that Jason's gonna hate. Batman Ninja Versus
Yakuza League trailer. We finally got the big bad We
know who's pulling the strings for the Yakuza Justice League.
Uh Rayshaw cool?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, I figured that was him.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah. I think it looks fun. I know, I know, Jason.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, probably is fun. Honestly, I thought the last half
of that trailer was a parody for a minute.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Oh yeah, I mean well I felt that way when
they were like looking up at the sky and they're
like it's the Japanese Hills or whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And I was like, Jesus, I am just someone said
through every trope and this this ip and see what happens,
all right.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Fair enough. I don't know half of the trope, so
I'm just fuzzled. Anime response to anime.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, it's all anime trups. So it's like, you know,
the the mech, the giant mech of course, robotic things
and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, the music really cracked that pathway through to me.
That just just turned on me.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
The music was just like it was like The Godfather
or something.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean that that felt just very anime. Like most
of those Japanese trailers have like a song in the
middle of it where you're like, okay, yeah, okay, this
is this is very very Japanese.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
There's a there's a guitar and a lady singing about
halfway through any of those.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh that, yeah, I figured that was the song no no,
I was thinking about, like the when at the end, it's.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Like what wan.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
It just sounded like The Godfather, sounds like Italian music,
like someone was about to sit down to eat spaghetti
in order to hit on.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Somebody Like I'd watched that movie.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I would. I mean, I think you're watching the I
am watching the happening.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
There is disappointingly little spaghetti so far.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh man, we just spent some time with Rupert Thorn.
That should shore up the numbers. Also, like, yeah, we
got plenty of possible spaghetti time.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Just thinking about how I'm hungry now, yeah, I get
I'm going to Walmart after this, ha ha ha. Laving Superman,
I've heard of that coming out of July eleventh. July eleventh,
twenty twenty five, Gun says that it won't be too

(27:35):
long before the first Superman movie trailer, but it also
won't be too soon. Then in threads, when I asked
about the progress of the Superman trailer and whether it
was finished, he said, it's not. I worked on it
this weekend. That was just a few days ago.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Very exciting. The Man works weekends, I know.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And he did say that in regards to Metamorpho, they
are taking the practical effects route. Okay, now here's a
thing interesting. Uh So you know, I'm a big action
figure collector, and uh, someone messaged Gun and said, James,
there are some toys and figures related to Superman that

(28:13):
are potentially leaking big spoilers for the film. They are
ruining the excitement for the movie. What do you have
to say about these toy spoilers? And Gun says, I'm
not sure what you're talking about, but I have to Okay,
all of the toys and I don't think any of
them spoiled anything. And because Gun said that, I'm gonna
say it on the show.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeay, spoilers incoming? Maybe who knows.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Gun says, they're not spoilers exactly. It's definitely stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
But we've also already spoiled the ending of Watchmen. There's
a squeeze's true, So that that just feels rude.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Sorry, which was weird because they actually did set that
trailer up as some like detective thriller.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, it was very like, see how it.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Is a who it's not from reading these but okay,
this is it is the first time. It's a philosophy
textbook with superheroes.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But okay, yeah, yeah, So we've got a list of
what McFarland Toys is doing, what they're putting out here.
It's just a list, no pictures. It says, uh DC
theatrical Deluxe seven inch Wave one Superman with Crypto Superman
Movie Unexpected. We yeah, yeah, that's that's obvious. Then they

(29:23):
have a deluxe seven inch Wave one Lex Luthor with
baby Kaiju.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
That is lovely like nonspecificity, like non specificity, Jesus, like
what kind of Kaiju? Where does it come from?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I don't know, but it's a baby Kaiju.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
There is a Kaijuan, like this is this is the
title of the figure.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, it says yeah, and then d C theatrical Deluxe
seven inch Wave one Ultraman Superman movie. Now we they
we've been in the spoilers with the uh set, we've
seen someone who bad. He looks like blat Noir from
the Boys, but people have been calling him Ultraman. I

(30:08):
think this might be the first, the first you know, uh,
indication that we actually have an Ultraman officially. But I
doubt he will be like an Earth three Ultraman. I
think he will wind up becoming Bizarro or some ship.
I think it's going to be like a lex clone.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
That could be. I was because I love like Earth
three ship. That's great, but I doubt it too, because
otherwise we'd have a full league of them.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, hell of boy to start a universes.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
By the way, here's the mirror verse.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, like so maybe Kaiju then it is still we're
still in. But if he's but if he's cleanning Ultraman,
then like it's like a little tiny bad experiment.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't know how uh, we don't know how seriousness is.
I mean, this is a full grown man who is
in a he is dressed like black and no waw
we cannot see his face, so we don't know what
he looks like in the set leaks. So, but there
is a character called Ultraman and he's getting an action figure.
Then they have like the normal line seven inch Superman

(31:17):
movie Superman seven inch Superman Movie Metamorpho, which we know
twelve inch Superman of course. Then they have the Mega figure,
which is a Kaiju I guess the mother Kaiju okay,
and then they there were we move over to the
dec direct line and they have metamorpho. This is like

(31:37):
the Superpowers, the five inch figures that we sporadically collect.
They yeah, they've they've got a metamorpho. They have a
great Guy Gardner, a green lantern, mister Terrific. They have
the Mister Terrific tea craft, which is fun. They even
have an Ultraman for that. It looks like they also

(32:00):
have a vinyl figure for something called Baby Joe from
the Superman movie. But they also have a b a
baby Kaiju Kaiju and Joe. So there's a baby Joe
and there's also a baby Kaiju. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I just wanted to have a little pet dooms Day.
That'd be something that would be free, just like just
like the little backwards shot. They gave us of corn
sweat and crypto now, but yeah, shoulders.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
So you know, I read it because Gun said he
didn't think it spoiled anything. Okay, I mean it just
made me go, wait what.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
But who does baby Joe grow into? Is that a
tiny ultraman clone? Is that a like because Kaiju becomes Kaiju,
maybe like that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
But I mean unless like Lex captured a Kaiju, like
a baby Kaiju, and the mother Kaiju is after him.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
But where would he get a baby Kaiju.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
It's the DC universe. Anything as possible.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, sure, any thing is possible, but I don't know.
I'd expect something more directly. Oh I know that from
the comics than just random Kaiju walking around.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, we don't know this. Like I'm imagining like a Godzilla,
but it might not be a Godzilla. It could be
any any shape of Yeah, it could be anything.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
It might it might just be a very But but
they they will put it out under this name, right,
so it can't quite be a hidden name of like,
oh it's a Kaiju, but will give it the proper
name when you know which character is.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I just it's just that the factory is going to
repaint some Baby Kaiju's from an ENTI another line entirely.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
That would be funny.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't close that style it is McFarlane. I don't
think they'll do that.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Also, it's like one of the figures was Lex with
Baby Kaiju, so it has to be part of the set.
So it like at that point you're you're inserting a
Kaiju into a lex that is in the movie, So
it has to be something.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, I don't know how it's not a spoiler. He
didn't tell us it was a Pacific Ram crossover until
just now.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Kaiju pre exists Pacific rim my friend, that means they
invented them. However, it does mean there's more Japanese ship
that you're gonna be upset with.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, if we're talking Godzilla Road here, that sounds great.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Oh, it might be a very western looking Kaiju just
for you know, the yeah upset voters.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, it's just it's a fat armadillo with a beer.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
At this point, it's just a Thanksgiving Day parade that
we're really talking about here.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah. He just hisses at you when you get close
to his limited edition Pamela Anderson playboy from the nineties.
You should you get away from my piem.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
You gotta be careful with those things. He days.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
You won't convince me here. Tadies ain't real.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I mean define really, not then, not now. But you're
you're not going to feel the difference or don't complain,
you know.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
But I don't know if I've been fooled.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Peace Baker. Season two. Gun is teasing a very different
season that's very magical. Uh. He says he has a
way in to connect the DCEU and the d CU
and it won't be confusing, So I'm I'm good whatever.
I'm not confused already. I read DC comics, so I

(35:39):
have at least twenty different ways I can imagine that happening,
and I'm probably gonna be wrong.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's the thing I'm most curious about is how we're
gonna build this weird little bridge going into the the
new universe.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
That's just it's gonna be a fun little time. So
right before, like the night before New York Comic Con,
he was directing an episode. Gun was directing episode and
he says that super bad and nobody wants this. Director
Greg Matola directed two of the best Peacemaker episodes ever,
and he says John Cena has Honestly, I've never seen

(36:13):
anyone who has gotten so much better at acting in
such a short amount of time. He was great in
the first season. This season he owns it and he's amazing.
I'm sold on Peacemaker, like I'm gonna watch the absolute
shit out of that no matter what.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, first season blew us all the way.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Over to Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, which comes out June
twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. So far they have added
a few people since I think the last time we
talked about it. Now Deadline is saying that the studio
casts three p sorry three body Problem star Eve Ridley
in the role of Ruthie Mary Nol. That's a character

(36:50):
from the Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow book by Tom King
and Rust and Bones matthiahs Shonen arts as Krim.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think we talked about that.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I would be remiss not to say that his name
is Mattia.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, that's one of ours. Good for you, more power
to you.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Hey, got it was said correctly.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, here's what I'm going to do, and here's what
I'm going to do. I mean I'm not going to
do this, but it would be a great idea. I
just want to take your clip of you saying it,
and every time we bring him up on the show,
just course have you cut in, and now I might
actually do it. It sounds fun, It does sound fun, but.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I just make it a one of the little bumper
patgs you keep hitting like the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
So Matthias is playing Krim of the Yellow Hills and
I think we talked about that before, but but James
Gunn has now since confirmed that both of them are
in the movie. They're both that is, those are real castings,
and uh, I don't know them, but I'm happy for it.
I love that we're actually, you know, staying somewhat close

(37:55):
enough to be casting direct characters from the story.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yeah, and I'm still surprised how directive an adaptation this
appears to be.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
There, it's really shaping up, like this is the fucking
story we're doing. And that's exciting because it's a good book.
But also it's interesting because we haven't really had that before. Like,
I'm sure there will be some some twists and durance,
but m some some some slight tweaks, some patting who
knows that in like at its at its core, like usually,

(38:25):
it's like we've made an amalgamation of eight other storylines.
You do you you might not have heard about.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm down for this, Like this is one
of the most what's great about Woman of Tomorrow, is it?
Or one of the things that's great about it anyway,
is that it doesn't feel like you could have just
altered the supporting characters and stuck Superman in there and
it would have been a Superman story like Supergirl. One

(38:52):
of Tomorrow is a is a Supergirl story that really.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Really leans on who she is and why she's different.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
It is very very I can't think of the word
I'm looking for for some reason. Huh, I spoke, No,
I'm never thinking of that word.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Could be anything.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Either way. Uh, yeah, it's just very independently Supergirl and
not here is a power an overpowered person from Krypton
fighting a Kaiju or something, and I know that's bad timing.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, a very specifically aimed No.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
No, I mean you know what does he got kryptonite?
A giant alien ship or a Kaiju that's all Superman
really has, or a magic person you know.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Doomsay is in this he is Yeah, I mean it
is he is. I know, I haven't read the fucking
dictionary definition of kaiju in a while.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, well, it's like he's just like parasite, Like
the more you fight him, the stronger he gets. And
then and then he turns into a damn kaiju. Yeah,
winds up just being really big and armored, and.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
You know, it really is kind of coolish now I
think about it, because it's kind of the Voorheas thing.
It's the scariest part is just just nothing stops it.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
We've unlocked it, guess but we got it.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, we did it.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
We did a thing. I'm not sure what, but yes.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Someone break out some sparkling welshs mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
All right, I think it's a good time to go
to break.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
All right, doesn't break in the show.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
There is a break in the show. It's now I
need to start building in more because Spreaker wants to
like put so many fucking ads in our show now,
and I keep like telling him no. I feel like
there's going to be some repercussion at some point where
they're just like, Okay, you have to leave our program.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
But can't they just put all the ads right now
in a row so people can skip through them at.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
It would be most convenient for everyone.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, yeah, but it won't let me do that. I
have tried. I have tried. It won't let me like
you have to go a certain amount of time and
then like a certain amount of time. It is is
just annoying. So I just make Spreaker angry because I'm like,
I just don't want that many ads in the show.
But anyway, it probably help our patreon.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Continue annoying mismanage our bodies, and that'll make more breaks
for you.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
So here's the thing. If all of a sudden there
are just so many fucking ads is unbearable, it's because
Spreaker made us and I'm not going over to another.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Place, or that one of us actually did get a
major illness and just has to take a lot of breaks.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Well maybe, but or really needs you to go to
the Patreon to you know, fix the medical bills.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
They've been creating this show with AI for five years.
Jason and I died in a terrible car accident and
they were like, no, we need to make one hundred
and three dollars a month and then give them like
twenty dollars of it.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I don't think we bring Paula's dead thing all the time,
because we William Campbell our asses out of this bitch
a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
See up until a week ago, I might have believed
this theory. But right now, if you are an AI
i'm talking to uh huh, there is a very good
robot flash shoot attached. That's the trick.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, see the previous one.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah. Also, what you're not considering is that all of
this is a simulation. You're right, and you yourself are
an NPC.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
I am no, no, no, I'm not an MPC. I'm
directing the matrix movie within the matrix because trends. That's
how it works.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
That's gotcha, that's her.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I'll accept that. Whatever you identify, I'm good with. But yeah,
let's go to break real quick, and then we'll come
back and finish up this this turn of an episode.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, real quick, we did it.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Yay, pinched that loaf, and now it's time for Effie's
bathroom break simulation ruminations.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
See also.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
See he says, see, but I can't see shit. It's
audio simulation. But if it was a simulation, it would
be easier to like it could just be there. Well, listeners,
can I don't know, help me scroll instide of my
phone or swiped tender And I don't know what do

(43:36):
people do in breaks? I'm bored already. As it turns out,
in this simulation, there is actually a floor underneath the
view I usually have of this room when I record
with with Dave. So I am happy to discover it
wasn't a void. That was just you know, action figures

(43:57):
in the background and then void underneath. It turned out
he had legs. You know, I've never seen them before,
So you live and you learn. Also, I know he's
never gonna like fully listen to recordings.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Hi, is he back already?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
No, it's not. Oh who are you talking to myself?

Speaker 2 (44:15):
It would you talk to yourself like that?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
To leave you a voicemail in the form of a recording?
I don't know when. And I was just saying that
I realized that you don't listen to the full recording,
so you might never find out.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Probably not exactly, I mean, I guess I will now.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah. No, yeah, Jesus, I am here to you know,
saddle you with extra work.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Oh stay okay, no, stay leaned over poorly.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I mean, sometimes you succeed and sometimes you don't. Yeah, yeah,
I mean I didn't want to rub it in by
by pointing it out, but I figured you knew.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Well when the thing came off the mic, then we know, how.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Do you have your thinking on the mic? That's gross?
All right, we are back and uh, let's talk about lanterns.
This TV series is really pitching the high gear.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, it's it's moving somedthingly. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
It's you know, it's still technically in development, but it's
about in production, y'all. It's I mean, it's already really there,
but we just don't have a date.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Casting is the phone part that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, we've got you know, Aaron Pierre as Jon Stewart.
Now we've got Kyle Chandler playing Hal Jordan, and uh,
good Lord Gun said.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Pierre is somebody who wanted to work with for a
long time. People don't know, but he was almost cast
as Adam Warlock in volume three. He's an amazing actor
and I just really admire him from the beginning of
his career. Seeing him read with Kyle was one of
those miraculous moments. I don't care what they're saying. I
just love what they're saying together. And apparently the live

(46:14):
action Green Lantern Show was conceived during a summit with
the DCU writer's room, including Gun, Drew Goddard Yes of
Marvel's Daredevil, Jeremy Slater of Moonnight, Christina Hodson from Birds
of Prey movie in the Flash movie, Christahl Henry from Watchman,
and of course Tom King who co wrote Lanterns with

(46:37):
Chris Mundy of Ozark and True Detective and Damon Lindeloff
have lost and the leftovers. That is quite a list. Steve,
that's a damn that is crazy. And Gun said that Munday,
Lindeloff and King are overseeing Lanterns and it is preparing
to shoot. So he says, when we first started the DCU,

(46:59):
the first couple of weeks heading this out, we got
together with a group of writers and Tom King was
one of those writers, and we were in this room
and we came up with sort of this concept for Lanterns.
It's a much more, very grounded series, a very real series,
which is a strange thing to say about a Green
Lantern show, but it's going to be something like nobody's
ever seen before I am excited about it.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That last part is really like, I don't want it
to be grounded in a non Lanterns way of course, right,
but the last part of just nothing seen anything like this.
That's exciting. That's a promise, that's like, that's high stakes.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
It is.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
So they also just cast Kelly McDonald as someone named
Sheriff Carrie, who is a no nonsense woman deeply devoted
to her family in close knit town. Her resilience, shaped
by a complex past, thus hardened her resolve, anchors her
when the community's secrets begin to surface. And they've also

(47:58):
cast Greg Dilla Hunt of Fear of the Walking Dead.
He's been tapped for a major recurring role in Lanterns.
He's playing modern cowboy William Makeham, a self righteous, conspiracy
minded man who masks his ruthless ambition behind a charming
and calculated facade. Okay, uh and some people I guess

(48:21):
because his name is William, are thinking that maybe he's
playing William Hand aka the Black Caned who winds up
getting the cosmic divining rod and starting the whole you know,
uh what was it called?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yes, Blackest Night? Yes, yes, yes, yes, some people are
thinking that he's he's connected to that, and I mean,
I can I guess I could see it.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I guess they're working towards that. That'd be cool. Suah. Yeah,
I can't imagine it immediately happening, but like maybe they've.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Been very ambitious they've been describing they've been described this
as this premise is two intergalactic cops drawn into a
dark Earth based mystery as they investigate a murder in
the American heartland.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, but that has to be relevant enough for it
to attract the attention of two lanterns. Yeah, so you know,
it can't just actually be Earth based, or there be
no reason for them to show up.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
It's an entire film where the whole time their rings
are in their pockets.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, exactly. At that point, they're just fence. That makes
no sense.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
So I just suspect they're too attractive, overqualified dudes yelling
at each other in the desert.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I mean, are they overqualified in this specific I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I feel like there's gonna be a lot of fans
who are crying. It's being like their suits were too real,
They're not cci enough.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we should have done full animated suits again,
because that went over so well.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
We didn't see the lanterns doing anything cool. They were
just like hanging out and talking about a history.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I'm sure. I'm sure they'll do some construct things. I'm
also like sure they literally cannot go the the too
much CG route because it was literally called out by
Ryan Reynolds, and that means the entire mainstream pop culture
now thinks it is stupid.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, I thought it was a fine idea. They just again,
like all like most the movies happening right now, like
they changed a bunch of shit. Yeah, in the middle
of production, had a bunch of research reshoes and didn't
have time to do it.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Yeah, and it was relatively like it was a bit
of a couple of years ago in terms of CGI progression,
and there was just a lot of non dark scenes.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I also are hard. I also just didn't think that
the green Leonard suit in any of the shots was
that bad in that movie.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
No, it's it's not really horrible. There are just some
some you know, but it looks fake because it is fake,
which you know, but is also kind of the point.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, it is fake.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
There was no point that Conced alone got me through
the movie with.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, people just wouldn't go along with it. That's the issue.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I was just fine with it for exactly that reason.
It was we're borrowing from insanity here. I don't care.
And altogether the actual that even the people who were
in and made that movie hate it way more than
I think it deserves.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, absolutely, all right. Dynamic Duo looks like it might
be getting an early twenty twenty eight release. That's the
animated film about the two Robins, Dick Grayson and Jason Todd.
The Sway Box Studios director Arthur Mintz was talking about
it of the twenty twenty four Light Box Expo, and

(51:42):
during the Warner Brothers Animation panel, he said that they
were eyeing a release in spring of twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
So that makes sense, like it takes a while to
get it right, and also they want to do the
bat Member of the Bolt thing first probably, like that
makes sense for it not to be like you haven't
seen Batman yet. But also here's two Robbins.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, and we don't know that this is DCU anyway.
Oh right, might just be an else Worlds.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
I mean, but Gun has been Yeah, yeah, i'd expect.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
It's not to be, but I would appreciate him go
ahead and tag everything, just just let it know.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Excuse me as the gun. Is this going to be DCU, No,
it'll be an else world Thank you.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Took it took a ten year plan. I made it's
Q cards if you could just sort them for me.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I mean, it doesn't strike me as a like as
an else World's kind of take though, and it's not
something where I'm like, oh, this is so out there
indifferent that it wouldn't fit in a quote unquote regular universe.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I've already seen people complaining that, or not really complaining,
but saying that, oh, it's animated, it has to be
else Worlds, And I'm like, uh, creature Commandos, the first thing,
the very first thing is animated.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Like he specifically said, I want to bring all of
these branches together, from animation to TV to movies, games.
So that's why my default expectation is this is part
of it, and not they announced a new project that
has nothing to do with it, because that's something they're
just not that interesting currently.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, I feel like my default expectation is to have
no expectation.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I mean, yes, but then that's the second place. Sure,
but I'm not a healthy person.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I am not neither. But I'm tired of being burned
and being angry about ship because a bullshit that I
believed that I cooked up in my own head.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Sure, but I don't get angry. I just get deeply disappointed.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Well that's not good either, No.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I know, I just yeah, but it's it's preferable, you know,
to turn your anger inward and become suicidal instead of.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
It's not preferable, it's not.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
I'm glad we landed that way.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Oh Jesus Jesus. Alright, Well, moving on? Oh my god, DCT.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
That's what the tea stands.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's just like it doesn't fit into anything. So there
are all these rumors out there that said, do a
Lipa side a ten year contract? Maybe she's playing Satana,
and James Gunn said, nah, man, that ain't happening to
He says, as of now, that is debunked, and then
he says, ten year contract. Do they think this is
the nineteen thirties. I'm a du a Lipa fan, but no.

(54:34):
He also, in a different thread, noted that Hollywood contracts
are almost exclusively concerned with a number of projects. Not
the duration of the employment. And he did also say
that because we will talk about this later and hopefully
one of us will remember, he said that this is

(54:54):
not like in the contracts they will say like an
appearance is different from a cameo. The appearances will be
specified in detail and say like okay, well it'll be
like X amount of appearances, an X amount of projects,
and then an X amount of cameos.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah, roles are different from oh I popped up for
half a seaton.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Like yeahah, and then over where that's coming out, like
versus a media versus a streaming show or something. They
can often dictate where they're gonna show up.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Because it would also just be weird, like they could
record everything in ten years that they might ever want
to use and then use it for projects theoretically for
like one hundred years to come, which is like wouldn't happen,
but it would be weird if that work on.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
But you don't want to like sign up for three
appearances and get two great movies and then show up
and like wherewill finit or something?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Right? All right, kids, sit down, I'm gonna tell you
about how I met your Superman. I mean, you see that,
but in eleven seasons we're gonna have some old ass
footage of David korn sweat.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
You basically just grabbed Gotham.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I did in a way. Alrighty uh, well back over
to what has already come out, Joker Too. It did
manage to cross two hundred million globally. Oh boy, it's
such a flop. Yeah, yeah, that's such a flop.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
It's so bad, barely a fifth of the of the
original box office. So like, yeah, I would I wonder
what the chart is for that, Like what the biggest
differential is between a movie and it's equel?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Oh god, the shortest legs. I don't know. I was
wondering because a billion this is rough.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah, that's that's not what they were expecting. I'm fairly so.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah. I can see what already they speaking of, which
is already available as of October twenty ninth on Amazon,
Prime and Apple and everywhere.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
I saw that a few days ago and thought, oh,
oh at twist the knife.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah, and that's all the news.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
I have got to end on a twisted knife, which.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I you know, look, it makes some sense.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I continue to be gleeful about how much Joker Too flopped,
and I loved the movie. It is exactly what was
needed artistically.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Absolutely, it is one for the history books, purely on
the fact that you know, a director went, so, y'all
really like the last product, I didn't want you to
like it in this particular way. Let me do it again,
and this time make sure that you understand that you're
in the wrong.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
And they still don't understand that. They think, oh, he
whiffed it.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
No, no, no, he clearly went all out in a
direction you mad.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
You are making his point for him.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, making the movie they wanted.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, shortcoming, just if only they not had expectations. They've
been so angry and or suicidal. I don't think anyone's
suicidal over this movie. But if so, you have some
some big issues, like bigger than just the angry people
on mind.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, he wasn't the angry in cell clown I wanted,
yeah or.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Needed Yeah, go to therapy people, yeah or therapy. Also
go vote, but first therapy.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I don't want those people to.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I want the angry incelts to really like speed through
just speed running therapy, un therapy. Then vote hopefully well,
and then you know, can you speak go back to therapy. Probably.
I wonder if you.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Could, that'd be great. Just get just get like twenty
therapists and and twenty people that need it in the
same room and just just yeah, minutes each.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I personally wouldn't wouldn't be like like just just an
hour with with each of them in twenty four hours
a day of therapy. I feel like that might might help.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I need speed sep anyway. You know how people do
the speed dating.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Oh right, yeah, yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Want to like hop around a twenty different therapists and
be like, what do you think narcissist?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well, yeah, that's all I'm saying. It's like, I think.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Nobody who meets you is ever going to think narcissists.
I am sorry, Like, technically, narcissists are also deeply insecure,
but in a way that is like far more masked
and and like you're you're you, you compensate in very
different ways.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Okay, I wasn't actually looking for I actually wasn't looking for,
you know, a diagnosis from you. It was just the
first thing I thought of, And it was a joke
out there.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I've heard of jokes. I'm I'm bad at recognizing them,
good at telling them now. Look said, it's funny that
that was the first thing that popped into your head.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Well, yeah, because I'm I'm a narcissist.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
If you walked into hospital and said a lot of
the lot of all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Symptoms, Oh anyway. Yeah, I just think.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
If you got twenty therapists and gave them all three
minutes and they took just shot from the hip, I
think about two of them probably are going to hit
you with something that's just staggering.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, like most of them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
If you will get something, it'll feel like a cold
read or a tarot card reading or something. But then
a couple of them, you're just gonna go, oh god, damn,
what did you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I feel like, Yeah, I feel like they need like
they need to listen to someone needs to like prepare
them a good compilation of DC on Screen and Star
Trek Universe. Yeah yeah, and maybe a couple of my
old comedy sketches, and then like they all get to
diagnose me based off of that, based off of that content. Yeah,

(01:00:50):
somehow I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Like that's worse than three minutes of interaction.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
No, I genuinely think you have a really fun idea
for a AI bot. Yeah, just throw in whatever your
creative about history is to the the aabot and the
the therapist spot just undoes it all and then grabs
a few quotes from your own material and spits out
what you are uh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Huh fuck and sends an alert to the FBI.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
I feel like that's somehow more irresponsible than actual AI,
because that would just lead people to literally kill themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That that would be, he relates to Catcher on the
Ride too much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
That would be the equivalent of like being caught naked
with your actual like bank account history in your hands.
It would bill so so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
M h I made this, and AI thinks I should not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Uh yeah, my my bank account history just reminds makes
me think of like it would be equivalent for me
of that episode of King of the Hill where uh
we're Hank gives Bobby like like a dollar in hopes
that he'll do something wise with it. When he comes home,
Bobby is like crouched at in the in front of

(01:02:04):
the front door, like ravenously consuming a burrito or a
case of d or something, and he's like, this is
what you did with the money I gave you with
the dollar? And he goes, no, I got a valume
in you. I also got a case of da just
that is good. That is me with my bank account,

(01:02:25):
It's like, my god, how many times do you need
Taco Bell a week?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I mean, technically money is there to be able to
feed yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
And I'm like, hey, guess what, my bank account doesn't
show how many reward tacos I get from the app,
So you don't even know the half of it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah, they're basically just a free flat red melt. Every
time I go through there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Now hashtag free fire to your baby, I will pretend
to know what that is. That means I spend so
much money at Taco Bell, they give me free ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah cool. I don't have Taco Bell where I'm from.
I earned points, Yeah, you got points and a bank
balance like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, man, I don't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
And on that, I said that with the enthusiasm of
a beaten child.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I mean, you have to grow up fast.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah yeah, sorry, I just had like a minor flashback
to being a child being reprimanded for eating junk food
because I'm gonna spoil my dinner. And then dinner comes
and it's a different fast food, right we're having I

(01:03:50):
want a taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
So that's why I had from earlier. It is because
the KFC we were gonna have I see.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, more like I want a taco Bell, but they
were like, that will spoil your dinner. Dad's bringing home,
Lee's fraud chat. Oh of course. Anyway, that's all I've got.
What you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Good?

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Yeah, I think so. I think we've shared enough childhood
traumas yea for now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Well, I hope everyone enjoyed this little journey into DC
news and childhood trauma and apparently my own belief that
I am a narcissist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I mean, do you believe that I actually believe you're
good enough to be ancist? No?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I believe that this is a simulation and none of
us are real, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Right, right, right right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, I think you might genuinely be the opposite of
like the alcoholic issue of like, if you think you're
an alcoholic, you probably are, and if you think you're
a narcissist, you probably aren't, because number ones don't ask
that question.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, yeah, well that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
But also if you don't think you're an alcoholic, you
might also Right, it's that too, But I'm not an alcoholic.
I'm a narcissist.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I have stopped whatever I want.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Maybe you just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
That's not what the let's let's let's get the air
about to like listen to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I just want an actual human person to look through
all of my art and then diagnose me. That would
be way worse, but also very in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
No, it would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
It would be weirder for the computer to get it,
because if the computer would get it, get it right,
it would feel calculated in a way that would hurt more.
No matter no matter what the human said, I could
discount it somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I would never want to like show my art to
an AI and be like, diagnose me with a mental illness.
And what they do is they just go, like you
need heart lessons.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Oh no, that would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Well, we've looked at all of your art and we've
diagnosed you with delusions of grandeur.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
But I feel like I would hurt more coming from
an actual human being, like relaying the results. You know,
it shouldn't be a computerized voice. It should be your
mom's voice. Like you need to project something onto that person.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I've said before, you know, like it has shifted in
the last couple of years, you know, used to you
would post some artwork and everyone just like, you know,
the asshole is like, oh it's trace, that's trace. And
now you post anything and they're like, AI.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Foks on you, it's AI that I traced.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I want to I want to like showcase my artwork
to an AI for for him or it to diagnose me.
And then it just says traced.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I mean that seems like a pretty simple input.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Anything it would say, you mean the art like, no,
your personality, Oh fuck no, my personality is a AI
that I traced.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I'm very confused. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
I think this outro is going well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
For the people who turned away minutes ago, it went fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were like, oh it's over right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, oh there's a new code O'Brien.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
It's that stage of the show where let's go listen
to literally anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
You know, at the end of the podcast, when you're
looking for the next one in the playlist that you
were thinking you were going to do next, and you
eventually realize there's still someone talking in your ear, like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Reorder that Q while we are bullshitting Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I really really want to have just talked in someone's
ear right then while they were doing that. It will
make me so happy the right timing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah, if that just happened, please write in and let
us know absolutely that will that will give Jason another
three years minimal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I mean we need those three years.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
My attention span is so bad that I could listen
to this episode myself and do it to myself if
I really put it on at effort end of it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, I was coming and still zone out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Yeah that too. And then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Again that's how edging was really invented. People just couldn't
fucking focus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
ADHD masturbation. I got real close. Then A noted something shy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
A squirrel came by my window. It's gonna bust one.
Then I googled something. I remember the name of this
porn star and just really wanted to know what she's
doing these days.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Suddenly, Oh, she.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Wrote a book? How cool? Should I order this book?
Is it on Amazon? Ah? Maybe maybe I should wait
for her for Black Friday when it is Black Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I mean genuinely, I was really really getting there. But
then I couldn't decide if I thought she was five
seven or five six, and just story short, her parents
lions exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Her Perth certificate says.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
All right, well, I hope you enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I hope your cue is reordered.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Hope you don't. Hope you weren't driving while you were
doing all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Oh please don't pull over, just onto the emergency lane
or whatever it's called in English.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah, I think it's illegal to look at a phone
now in our state.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
So well, I've seen you break some laws.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Oh yes, I break plenty. It was a new law,
truly a bad boy like y'all. You can pull me over,
but I'm literally using it as a GPS.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
I'm putting it in hands free right now, with your hands.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Do you have to know where you're going? It's all
a simulation anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
I don't know where I'm going with my life or
this sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
We're certainly with the money for this court fee. Shit,
because once you start calling officers names like n PC,
they get real pissed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
If they know what it means.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
They're either gonna not know and get mad or actually
know and get mad.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Yeah, which which scenario is more likely to get me
shot in this CONTRYYMN.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Right, Okay, two of those two.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Yes, the answer is yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
All right, well uh, until next time, keep some DC
on your screen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
By bye.

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