March 10, 2025 • 28 mins
A meandering review from Jason and Dave as they struggle to remember what the hell happened in "Kiteman: Hell Yeah!" season one. They enjoyed it immensely -- no, it's not as good as Harley Quinn, but what the heck is, by gum? Please don't stop listening. The next episode will be better.Okay, ya got me. Ya called my bluff. I have no way of knowing if the next episode will be better. But we'll try to make it better or my name isn't Wilson Winchester Pennington III (and it isn't).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were listening to DC on Screen.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome into DC on Screen. I'm David C. Robertson. This
is Jason Goss. Screwed up the countdown for us to
sync up earlier, and that's why I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, it's not a you can't screw that up by yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's not anything. Yeah, it's not anything you guys did.
Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So yeah, welcome man. Today we're talking about kite Man.
Hell ya season one.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I hope there's a season two because I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I thought they'd said there was.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Was that not Now I don't know. I didn't even
look that up. I didn't even prep that. Oh, Dean Lorie,
the producer, has confirmed there will be a second season.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well there you go, say, just a roller coaster fore.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, I enjoyed it. I didn't It doesn't have as
high of ratings as Harley Quinn. M you know, I've
seen some you know, people complaining that, oh, well it's
not as good as Harley Quinn. Oh, they just redid
some of the same jokes. And yes, the universe.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean for that reason, a few things have as
much critical rating as the thing it came from think. Yeah,
it's just so rare.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, but you know what, I enjoy it. I
thought it was fun. Like, no, yeah, I miss I
missed one to Sikes as a queen of Fables. Sure
you're gonna lie about that, sure, I mean, how can
you replace one of Sikes?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
He really can't know a serviceable attempt to here, but
none will ever be like her?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Uh nice. Reddick did a hell of a good job
playing a Lex Luthor after Giancarlo Esposito and God help
him didn't even make it through the season. He had
to be replaced because he passed away, which was sad.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It was a weird time. One of the last things
he was in was this season, I guess mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, like they literally had to replace him mid season.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That was such an abrupt and yeah, so you know it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But you know what, it's fine. The show was not
as it as Harley Quinn has ever been as far
as I'm concerned, but it's also really still pretty damn good.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah. Yeah, for the most part, you're just trying to
get to like ninety percent of the gratification of watching
the original and you'll be fine. Yeah, And you know,
whatever the hell it was swimmingly at it by my chap.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like there, you know, like anything, there were good episodes
and there was like, eh, that's fine, but man, there
was a freaking episode. I think it was God, I
can't remember why, it's me It was all Bane.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh okay, it was like just explain some they.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Would have like a gala or something, and Bain was
just like it was him with that briefcase and he's
like all dressed up. Yeah, and he's just like prancing
around and just being like a saucy little bitch. That
ship was the funniest thing. That may have been funnier
than any episode in.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Universe just period.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, that was better than any any Harley Quinn episode.
I remember. Yeah, it's just Baine with that briefcase, like
the proper accessory has to it makes.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The man, you know, I forget even how they work
that in. Like I remember so little off some of
the like course of the show right the start.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm afraid I'm just not I'm not remembering the proper
episode correctly. It is okay, there's everyone knows this isn't
the podcast if you want accuracy, m of course. Oh
I guess it was episode seven the Sexiest Villain Alive.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh that makes sense. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Beast Mode, Lex Luthor, and Bain square off at the
Sexiest Villain a Live Awards, which Okay, first of all,
let me just say that Bain is like my favorite
character in either of these episodes, either.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Of these shows, just across it.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, I just I just watched like an interview
with the voice actor James Adamion, who was like, oh yeah,
I was just like in the interview or in the audition,
I was like, do you care if I do Tom
Hardy and obviously and then it was like yeah, yeah,
but like he has brought so much to the character
between that and the writing him and the writing is
(04:12):
just like just the way he's like, you know, sprouting
and just the stupid bullshit he says. I feel like
he's added a lot more to the to the Bain
character than what Tom Hardy brought.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Oh yeah, it just did the voice. We've had way
more time to listen to him to and it's been
worth it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Not only drag I think what was he probably the
only one that got dragged over from the main cast.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think, well kite Man, well, yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I would expect him to show up mm hmmm. Yeah,
you didn't expect it to be an actual like pull
off from it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But I mean we had Queen of Fables, you know,
the true side was on Harley Quinn.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, telling people like crossover, I just like out of
a series regular igress. Grabbing Bain was I think in
good taste. They did the most with him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh yeah, he's a great Uh, he's a great character
to pull over.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I did enjoy watching Might go through a waiting tables
face mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And he left for uh, what's her faces? Villigans?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, Villians was a just fantastic bar name altogether, which
I love.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh gosh, what's the guy's name? He was in Breaking
Bad and Better Call Saul? I can never remember that
guy's name. The guy plays Noonan.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh oh god, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Banks, that's it. Jesus Christ. By the way, uh Ria
Seahorn from Better Call Saw is also in the show
as Insect Queen, very briefly in case anyone didn't know
the whole thing where they were like she was gonna
eat you? Yeah, I no, no, you idiot, Oh my god.
(05:51):
I'm not good at talking about these shows.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
No, I'm sorry, I'm really not.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm just like, I don't know what the fun to say, you.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Know, Yeah, I mean, uh, one of my favorite editions
in it it be in that goldilike situation I guess
with with Bane.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh god, that this was to this, this was to this,
this was just right, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, Chershus. I think altogether that was my favorite in life,
like in life crossover here mm hmmm. Well, and it
came back to the back to Harley as well. Yeah,
watching him actually like learn to take care of this baby,
to watch ban be a father.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, and I do like that that carried over into
Harley Quinn season five. H By the way, can I
just say that I love the whole time traveling toilet thing.
I was curious to see, like what you would think
of that, But I love that, like you just take
a piss and go back to the eighties.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah. I don't, I don't. I don't know what to
make of it.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, that whole episode was so fun.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's not even just an episode. I think it's like
an arc, isn't it Just there's a whole situation with
the toilet.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I thought, well, there is like a whole situation with
a toilet. But I think there was specifically an episode
where it is just Bane stuck in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's get stuck and somebody's trying
to get back there to see what's her Name's Glider's mom.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Right, Rebecca.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, the worst of all. Yeah, I mean just terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah. I mean the heart of the show is like
Golden Glider and kite Man trying to get themselves some respect, slash,
find themselves and get control and dealing with horrible, horrible parents.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah. Yeah, and they're just bad. I mean I kept
thinking she was gonna have I forget how this went down.
I just remember there were several chances the show gave
her to be good, and she just refuses to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Mm hmm. She's terrible, Yeah, terrible, just.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
At every turn. Yeah, believe we'll do anything but spend
time with her daughter.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Mm hmm. I was shocked at how much I wound
up liking Malice.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I guess I wasn't entirely shocked by how much I
liked her, but I did. I really did like her.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And I was also not at all shocked by how
much I never liked six Pack. M Yeah, that character
was just a creepy little ha ha, I'm drunk. Yeah,
that's that's the only joke for that one.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, so obliterated at all times. It can't be trusted
in a pantry.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's like Barney Gumble of the fucking Harley Quinn Universe.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Okay, the emotional depth of Steve or whatever. The kindergarten
teacher's name.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Is mm the what was his name? Darryl?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's even if you said it, I wouldn't remember. I
think it's meant to be that generic.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Was it? Like the guy who was like always like
he had a bunch of different jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, like for most of the season, I think he's
just a kindergarten teachers, our first card teacher or something.
And like the show I think even shows you when
he had his first beer or something.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh yeah, Darryl is a kite man's dad. Sorry, who
am I thinking of?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's his name?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I know who I'm talking about. Like the he's sometimes
a school teacher, then sometimes he's like he gets off
work and then goes to like best Buy or some shit.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, I was just a very enthusiastic nice guy, it
seems like, and then becomes a superpowered uh, I guess
Dad Warrior when he's drunk.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
M I remember that part.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I remember sweater bast of some guy, all right, I
just don't remember it running way way sooner than you have,
no way more recently than you have.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I forget this guy's name. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he
turns into a long story. He's like Marsha man Hunter
for a second.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's a long Oh yeah, he was Martian Manhunter at
the end.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Remember that. Yeah that was Gus. That was his name.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh yeah, I'll forget that in like twenty seconds. Yeah
he What were the name of the mobsters too? That
I doesn't mind? Other name I That was one of
the harder things to watch the entire season, was the
slow degradation of that head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh, that was one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I enjoyed it, but I didn't. It was difficult to
view it was but it was funny but good.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It made me laugh I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That means they had to kind of just send in
a different character design for each each piece of that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah. By the way, I didn't realize Gus was a
character on Harley Quinn.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I did not either, as I'm thinking of his whole
story in this kite Man.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, he comes from Harley Quinn. He was a kindergarten
teacher slash goon for hire on Harley Quinn. He had
poison ivy strapped down to a table. He's like wearing
like a environmental suit. I know he was in season
one and season two.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, yeah, they all exist here now for me, because
I don't feel like I've seen Harley Quinn season one
and two now for five or six years.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like two owners and three networks ago. I feel like
a different app.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
What it gonna do is we are gonna wind up
rewatching it one day and we'll be like, oh my God,
and the world will be opened up to us and
we'll be like this. They did such a better job
of world building than I even thought they did.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Probably especially with the second season of that now we're
on you know, We're in Metropolis or the other one.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Mmm.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'm realizing they ended with some magic shit going on
in them. Not sure what the cliffhanger was for kite Man,
you know, I forget though. That was one of the
major arcs here was what kite Man is so just
inherently trusting that he can be trusted to have the
anti life equation apparently.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, well he doesn't have any.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like man just vibes dude's vibe. Yeah, he can have
it his life equation.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He can't have the anti life equation. He doesn't really
have like any real issues that he wants to as
far as like wanting to take over and dominate, and
he has no darkness within him.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah. Yeah, he just really wants to impress his dad
and other than that, and even that has limits, and
other than that, he's just kind of chill.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Now, something that was worrying even on this scale was
taking away his kite for a while. For most of
the season. It seemed like I.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Don't think it was most of the season, wasn't I
feel like it was like it was it was from
like where he was a douchebag best mode when he
became bestmo they took it away?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Was it only then? Okay? And I think I thought
it was longer of course, like got a deep power.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well most of the time he was just hanging out
behind a bar anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, sure it was only eight up or had it
in case he won, But I.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Get it, like I you know, back in the day,
Like I would always get aggravated when they would like
nerve beetlejuice.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm like, oh man, this is an episode where
they've done something and he now he's like a thing,
he said, some kind of weird looking thing. He doesn't
have his powers, and Lyddy has got to help him.
The whole episode is just like boring, normal dude needing help.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, one day, another interesting take will come along and
I'll be in the right mood for it again, mm hmm,
and I'll be down and I'll be open to it again.
Right now, I just don't have anything left in my
soul for depowered super Hmmm. I'm just a little bit
exhausted on that meme. Yeah, you just have times you
don't want to see a thing for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I look, look, I was tired of that shit. When
Spider Man two came out and get it, like with
Toby Maguire, like when he lost his powers in that
movie in the theater, I went.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
This second.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But you know, keep in mind, I mean obviously here
rolling my eyes angry because they did, you know, storylines
like that in Spider Man the animated series, and I'm like,
oh god, the whole season where they're doing like the
mutant thing where you know, he's he grows the extra
arms and then he becomes a giant spider and the
(13:37):
destroying him molecularly. And I just want Spider Man to
be Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, an issue I didn't think we'd be,
you know, facing here at kite Man.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, you know, of course, I you know, now I'm older,
and I understand the heroes need obstacles and yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Sometimes I think that's that they had obstacles and that's
why they got those cool powers, and I'd like to
see those on display.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Uh huh, poor, I just don't like dragging out stuff
too too long.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, it may have been more tasteful than I thought.
You said. It was only an episode and a half apparently,
or two maybe at Max.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah before well the whole thing was on Max.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But yeah, this part time.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Can I just say just quickly that I.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Want to pull the clip.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Kind of feel like this might be the worst episode
we've done in a really long time.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Do you think that's fine?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I do, it might be. I would, you know, uh,
implore the listener to stick with us. We might turn
it around as possible it is possible. What did you
think of Queen of Fables attaching herself to dudes, dudes
bro du Bro's twin How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That was I'll piece together what was meant there? I'm hoping,
but if I recall, had that work? She she became
the extra head for a little while.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, like she they finally locked off in bros twin brother.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And after he admitted it and then yeah, what do
they do with that?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, he wanted to because he just got the one body,
so yeah, he wanted to go. Well, we saw them
making out and they were alluded to other things happening,
which was pretty gross. Yeah, of course, because the rest
of that side of his body is dead. But the
other thing though, was like, eventually he wants to go
quote unquote get eaten by insect Queen and Queen of Fables.
(15:47):
While they're in there, she detaches, and while they're in
there trying to rescue him, they find Queen of Fable's
body in amber or whatever whatever it is that queen
insect queen.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Didn't Yeah, and uh she goes back.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, So basically the sexual body horror portion is yeah,
I can think I could live with it in this context.
I mean, I don't I don't know what half a
dick is like, especially if it's split down the middle
like that, mmm, like I presume it would be. But yeah,
they seem to make it work, so okay. Otherwise didn't
freak me out too much. I was mostly at that
(16:25):
point happy to see the little remnants of the head go.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So yeah, I kind of storyline that came after it
was was an upgrade.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This might be a thing for season two, but I
kind of want I kind of want Joe to come
back and be like just a person, not an extra.
Like I don't want him to be wearing the double
suits anymore. He just shows up and he's like I
finally got over it, you know, Like I don't know,
like just like a normal person. But that could also
have like some psychological effects.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, I mean, he'll be half normal, but like I
think they have to. He'd be like half crutch, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't know, like because like the dead parts of
his body were still moving.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's good, but he was just still he was still
walking around. Yeah, yeah, I don't know how the way.
I don't know how he works. I don't think I
want to. I'm good with it. M I don't think
they're gonna get ready of the guy though, too big
and bulky.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What did you think of dark Side's chorus?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh, I forgot about the his little Holliback chorus. Yeah,
that was one of the best additions I forgot about. Yeah,
dark Side in the whole show. I couldn't play some
moment to say in my life right now. But it
turns out the Harley Quinn treatment of dark Side in
general is fun mm hmm. And yeah, they're little kind
of I guess it's a dramatic chorus kind of situation
(17:44):
because I remember they kept saying stuff that the audience
should know, like this is fucked kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah. Sometimes they were just repeating what dark Sides?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, what did who did dark Side? Like? We would
like the pet smart or whatever and grab that guy
because he had to serve him for all eternity because
he went back on his word or something, or he
said that it was not going to be an issue. Oh,
he said that Tracker, the cat Tracker would stay in
Cheshire and.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It didn't it cost him his life naturally.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, yeah, he's like, you must serve me for eternity,
and he's just like, okay, well kind of tell my boss. I'll,
you know, leave in two weeks. No, you have to come,
you know. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's like the epitome of the Tom King reaching for
the veggie dip kind of dark side.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Now it is, it is, And I love the way
that they had that character as all customer service representatives are.
I love that they had him just pliable, apathetically pliable
to the next forever that he'll have to deal with
bullshit just you know. It wasn't even like oh no,
no please, no, yeah, sure oka tell my boss. No, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I had no expectations anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
What do you what are you hoping for for season two?
Because I don't feel like we got like a ton
of like actuals of an actual story. Like I don't
feel like these characters, it doesn't really feel like these
characters really turned any corners.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, No, I also don't know what they I think
we said this after every season of Harley Quinn, or
at least the early ones. I don't know what the
hell they're going to do with the last season or
another season of Kite man, they told a very specific
story and they got out of it. Like I think
at the end of this, at like the end of
(19:35):
episode ten, they literally fly off into the distance together.
This could have been not picked up and it would
have been fine.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Mm hmm. I think. So.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What also has me a bit, you know, stymy, is
what the fuck do you do?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What do you upgrade from antile afic question?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You go smaller, you tell a more quiet tale.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, well, but that's also got me, like, what do
you do a more quiet tale about a young couple
that just wants to get married and maybe start a
small family business. Because they did that too.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah they did. I want to know more about
the time travel toilet, and I want to know more
about Golden Glider's powers, where they come from, and how
she learns to control.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That is true. We did not talk much about her powers.
She can fuck some stuff up. Mm hmm. I think
that's all there is to say about him that. I mean,
when she turns on everyone in the vicinity just close
their eyes and hopes they're there on the other side
of it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't remember that very quick. I don't remember them
really giving a comeuppance to her. Mom.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
No, I mean, I don't think that's gonna get any better.
I think we're think we're pretty fuck there. And the
mom storyline kind of moved its way into bag a
little bit, which means we can play with it wherever
we want to. And they clearly liked the Mom character.
Then she has an interesting character mm hmm. But I
don't know, I mean it, there's enough to play with her,
(20:52):
But I didn't get any signs that she was going
to turn around anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, No, I just uh, you know, is she uh?
Is there you know, a possibility of hope that we
can get rid of her, take her down a notch.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't know. She's also kind of slick. I think
she's pretty much gonna blood consequences the rest of her life.
I see her as one of those types.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, I mean, I just want, like Glider and Guide
Man's parents.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
To be sacked around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
What. I kind of feel like they need to wind
up together.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, and that would be a great punishment.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, in some way.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It'd be a win to watch, not to be a
part of sure with Glider, do you I mean we
have seen a live version of Glider before but I
don't remember what they even said she could do in
the show there, But god, I thought, I thought, I
remember versions of this where she just had skates and
she was basically like it was kind of like Iceman
but with gold. For whatever reason, it didn't seem all
(21:50):
that powered. It was just kind of acrobatic and for
some reason metallurgical or a chemical whatever the fuck you
want to call it. But yeah, and this thing she's
got like a whole inside spirit demon situation. That's m
huge upgrade.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean, she certainly didn't have those powers in the
live action Flash show that they just finished making.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Your God, no, although they could have. I really liked
kind of I remember Henning for a while. I haven't
seen an actress in a while either.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, check this out. Lisa Snart is a figure skater
known by the alias Lisa Starr, who has help in
her career from her secret coach and Lover the Top,
a foe of Barry Allen Slash the Flash, who dies
after being injured in a battle with him. Furious over
his death, Start vows revenge, adopting an orange ice skater's costume,
a mask, and ice skates which create their own ice flow,
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which allow her to effectively skate on air. She also
has diamonds and jewels that can be used as explosives
or hypnotic devices. The Golden Glider seeks revenge against Alan
for several years and frequently collaborates in her heights with
her brother, who is very protective of her. Yeah, that
ain't this character.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so they went way overboard with their hair,
which is fun. Yeah. I think it's that the only
time they're gonna get away with though. You can't do
that with kite Man. We're not gonna I'm not gonna
buy that.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You gave him superpowers and he just turned into a chat.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It, says the New fifty two. She is dying of
a brain tumor. She survives the tumor being removed. Then
she mysteriously appears in South America, going by the name
Glider and wielding meta human abilities. Okay, so I'm sure
they grabbed some some shit from New fifty two.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Just bitten by a Golden Spider in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
She's bitten by a golden tendril. Yeah, we don't know
what kind of tendril. Damn it. You know, the the
in this version. The golden tendrils remind me of the
Crimson bands of ciderac from from Marvel, you know, from
Juggernaut or whatever. I think that was what made to
his costume.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's another scene in the background with the the poor
chorus fill in. Incentence says that's the kid from the
zones up. He looks back at him to Yeah, it's
a wonderful bit.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I do like decide about as much as I ever
do here.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh yeah, I think it was Phil Lamar about it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Probably what isn't Phil Lamar?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So many things?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh I happened to click the scene you were talking
about with the pet store.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, Phil Lamar was Does it give.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Him my antele life equation? Does it? Brandon Brandon?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I said Adam, I don't know. Oh Man still enjoying
Jim Rash as the Riddler from Tom to Tom here?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh yeah, I forgot he was snuck in. Yeah. I
feel like they just call him in for like a
half hour every season at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But it's it's great just him a clock king being
just the most caddy and hateful gaze ever or should
I say cock king. I think they made that joke
in the show, did they any Yeah, I think they did.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think you have to lead with it in that show.
It's only a matter of time. Yeah, it was something
that I remember joking with you about or even get
to it. It kept cracking me up in this one,
as violent as some of the scenes with Glider get,
especially those how they would just like cover her in
just fields of blood and then blur it too, like
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it would be nudity, gallons of blood and then blurs.
At some point you're just blurring a giant red portion
of I don't think I could distinguish anything.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And if you had this undone, I always just think
it's funny that they blur any of it because of
how much they curse.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, true, and how filthy.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The humor is. I'm just like, why are you even
why are you even bothering to blur? You know, Harley's
tits all the blood? You know, Like, who cares?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I've always assumed it's not even a cinstership thing. It's
just way funnier to blur it at this point. It
might be I The blur over the you know, bloody
boobs made me laugh every time.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And you're right, you're always kind of stands out in
the show like, okay that we're being coy about. That's great. Yeah,
just just watched the man to capitate over his brother's
shoulder for several episodes. You opened the season with, I
mean a kind of bloodshed that I don't know that
I've seen on television really in sometime.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Just an entire anatomy lesson over and over again, and
they just kept happening. It's a it's a very bloody show.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, as is it's uh the series that sired.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I sure, as they have a doomsday clock in the
basement at Noonan's.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You just realized that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, I don't know why it's back there. I mean
it's on the scene that they're there in the basement
doing something. I just clicked around again. But is that
reference somewhere, because I don't think I ever caught it
when it was there.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I think I saw it, but I don't. I'm pretty
sure I saw it, but I don't think. I don't
remember it being actually referenced in any real way.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The doomsday clock, I get. I don't understand the doomsday
fan next to it, just a wireframe fan.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's funny and weird. I don't know that I get it,
but it's funatically all right. I think that. I think
that's all I've got on the show Man. I I
enjoy it. I thought it was funny to look forward
to a second season.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, it's gonna look quick.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, and I love that it's you know, and lined
up with Harley Quinn. Like stuff from Kiteman is carrying
over to Harley Quinn. And we'll talk about Harley Quinn
season five when we're done with that. Sorry, this one
came in so late. I took me forever to watch it,
and part of that is just because I knew I
wasn't in the mood for it, and I didn't want
to dislike the show.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
It is worth it when you actually sit down for it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah. So anyway, if you feel like it, give us
a peek over at patreon dot com slash DC on screen.
We do put up exclusive episodes from time to time.
You can also if you're a one dollar patron or
five dollar patron, you can get the every episode add free.
So all the annoying, stupid bullshit ads that we have
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to put on this on this podcast aren't there. And
I don't know what do you think? Until next time? Yeah,
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You were listening to DC on Screen.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome into DC on Screen. I'm David C. Robertson. This
is Jason Goss. Screwed up the countdown for us to
sync up earlier, and that's why I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, it's not a you can't screw that up by yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's not anything. Yeah, it's not anything you guys did.
Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So yeah, welcome man. Today we're talking about kite Man.
Hell ya season one.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I hope there's a season two because I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I thought they'd said there was.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Was that not Now I don't know. I didn't even
look that up. I didn't even prep that. Oh, Dean Lorie,
the producer, has confirmed there will be a second season.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well there you go, say, just a roller coaster fore.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, I enjoyed it. I didn't It doesn't have as
high of ratings as Harley Quinn. M you know, I've
seen some you know, people complaining that, oh, well it's
not as good as Harley Quinn. Oh, they just redid
some of the same jokes. And yes, the universe.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean for that reason, a few things have as
much critical rating as the thing it came from think. Yeah,
it's just so rare.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, but you know what, I enjoy it. I
thought it was fun. Like, no, yeah, I miss I
missed one to Sikes as a queen of Fables. Sure
you're gonna lie about that, sure, I mean, how can
you replace one of Sikes?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
He really can't know a serviceable attempt to here, but
none will ever be like her?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Uh nice. Reddick did a hell of a good job
playing a Lex Luthor after Giancarlo Esposito and God help
him didn't even make it through the season. He had
to be replaced because he passed away, which was sad.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It was a weird time. One of the last things
he was in was this season, I guess mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, like they literally had to replace him mid season.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That was such an abrupt and yeah, so you know it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But you know what, it's fine. The show was not
as it as Harley Quinn has ever been as far
as I'm concerned, but it's also really still pretty damn good.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah. Yeah, for the most part, you're just trying to
get to like ninety percent of the gratification of watching
the original and you'll be fine. Yeah, And you know,
whatever the hell it was swimmingly at it by my chap.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like there, you know, like anything, there were good episodes
and there was like, eh, that's fine, but man, there
was a freaking episode. I think it was God, I
can't remember why, it's me It was all Bane.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh okay, it was like just explain some they.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Would have like a gala or something, and Bain was
just like it was him with that briefcase and he's
like all dressed up. Yeah, and he's just like prancing
around and just being like a saucy little bitch. That
ship was the funniest thing. That may have been funnier
than any episode in.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Universe just period.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, that was better than any any Harley Quinn episode.
I remember. Yeah, it's just Baine with that briefcase, like
the proper accessory has to it makes.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The man, you know, I forget even how they work
that in. Like I remember so little off some of
the like course of the show right the start.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm afraid I'm just not I'm not remembering the proper
episode correctly. It is okay, there's everyone knows this isn't
the podcast if you want accuracy, m of course. Oh
I guess it was episode seven the Sexiest Villain Alive.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh that makes sense. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Beast Mode, Lex Luthor, and Bain square off at the
Sexiest Villain a Live Awards, which Okay, first of all,
let me just say that Bain is like my favorite
character in either of these episodes, either.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Of these shows, just across it.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, I just I just watched like an interview
with the voice actor James Adamion, who was like, oh yeah,
I was just like in the interview or in the audition,
I was like, do you care if I do Tom
Hardy and obviously and then it was like yeah, yeah,
but like he has brought so much to the character
between that and the writing him and the writing is
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just like just the way he's like, you know, sprouting
and just the stupid bullshit he says. I feel like
he's added a lot more to the to the Bain
character than what Tom Hardy brought.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Oh yeah, it just did the voice. We've had way
more time to listen to him to and it's been
worth it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Not only drag I think what was he probably the
only one that got dragged over from the main cast.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think, well kite Man, well, yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I would expect him to show up mm hmmm. Yeah,
you didn't expect it to be an actual like pull
off from it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But I mean we had Queen of Fables, you know,
the true side was on Harley Quinn.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, telling people like crossover, I just like out of
a series regular igress. Grabbing Bain was I think in
good taste. They did the most with him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh yeah, he's a great Uh, he's a great character
to pull over.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I did enjoy watching Might go through a waiting tables
face mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And he left for uh, what's her faces? Villigans?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, Villians was a just fantastic bar name altogether, which
I love.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh gosh, what's the guy's name? He was in Breaking
Bad and Better Call Saul? I can never remember that
guy's name. The guy plays Noonan.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh oh god, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Banks, that's it. Jesus Christ. By the way, uh Ria
Seahorn from Better Call Saw is also in the show
as Insect Queen, very briefly in case anyone didn't know
the whole thing where they were like she was gonna
eat you? Yeah, I no, no, you idiot, Oh my god.
(05:51):
I'm not good at talking about these shows.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
No, I'm sorry, I'm really not.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm just like, I don't know what the fun to say, you.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Know, Yeah, I mean, uh, one of my favorite editions
in it it be in that goldilike situation I guess
with with Bane.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh god, that this was to this, this was to this,
this was just right, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, Chershus. I think altogether that was my favorite in life,
like in life crossover here mm hmmm. Well, and it
came back to the back to Harley as well. Yeah,
watching him actually like learn to take care of this baby,
to watch ban be a father.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, and I do like that that carried over into
Harley Quinn season five. H By the way, can I
just say that I love the whole time traveling toilet thing.
I was curious to see, like what you would think
of that, But I love that, like you just take
a piss and go back to the eighties.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah. I don't, I don't. I don't know what to
make of it.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, that whole episode was so fun.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's not even just an episode. I think it's like
an arc, isn't it Just there's a whole situation with
the toilet.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I thought, well, there is like a whole situation with
a toilet. But I think there was specifically an episode
where it is just Bane stuck in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's get stuck and somebody's trying
to get back there to see what's her Name's Glider's mom.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Right, Rebecca.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, the worst of all. Yeah, I mean just terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah. I mean the heart of the show is like
Golden Glider and kite Man trying to get themselves some respect, slash,
find themselves and get control and dealing with horrible, horrible parents.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah. Yeah, and they're just bad. I mean I kept
thinking she was gonna have I forget how this went down.
I just remember there were several chances the show gave
her to be good, and she just refuses to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Mm hmm. She's terrible, Yeah, terrible, just.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
At every turn. Yeah, believe we'll do anything but spend
time with her daughter.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Mm hmm. I was shocked at how much I wound
up liking Malice.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I guess I wasn't entirely shocked by how much I
liked her, but I did. I really did like her.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And I was also not at all shocked by how
much I never liked six Pack. M Yeah, that character
was just a creepy little ha ha, I'm drunk. Yeah,
that's that's the only joke for that one.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, so obliterated at all times. It can't be trusted
in a pantry.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's like Barney Gumble of the fucking Harley Quinn Universe.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Okay, the emotional depth of Steve or whatever. The kindergarten
teacher's name.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Is mm the what was his name? Darryl?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's even if you said it, I wouldn't remember. I
think it's meant to be that generic.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Was it? Like the guy who was like always like
he had a bunch of different jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, like for most of the season, I think he's
just a kindergarten teachers, our first card teacher or something.
And like the show I think even shows you when
he had his first beer or something.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh yeah, Darryl is a kite man's dad. Sorry, who
am I thinking of?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's his name?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I know who I'm talking about. Like the he's sometimes
a school teacher, then sometimes he's like he gets off
work and then goes to like best Buy or some shit.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, I was just a very enthusiastic nice guy, it
seems like, and then becomes a superpowered uh, I guess
Dad Warrior when he's drunk.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
M I remember that part.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I remember sweater bast of some guy, all right, I
just don't remember it running way way sooner than you have,
no way more recently than you have.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I forget this guy's name. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he
turns into a long story. He's like Marsha man Hunter
for a second.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's a long Oh yeah, he was Martian Manhunter at
the end.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Remember that. Yeah that was Gus. That was his name.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh yeah, I'll forget that in like twenty seconds. Yeah
he What were the name of the mobsters too? That
I doesn't mind? Other name I That was one of
the harder things to watch the entire season, was the
slow degradation of that head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh, that was one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I enjoyed it, but I didn't. It was difficult to
view it was but it was funny but good.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It made me laugh I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That means they had to kind of just send in
a different character design for each each piece of that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah. By the way, I didn't realize Gus was a
character on Harley Quinn.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I did not either, as I'm thinking of his whole
story in this kite Man.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, he comes from Harley Quinn. He was a kindergarten
teacher slash goon for hire on Harley Quinn. He had
poison ivy strapped down to a table. He's like wearing
like a environmental suit. I know he was in season
one and season two.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, yeah, they all exist here now for me, because
I don't feel like I've seen Harley Quinn season one
and two now for five or six years.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like two owners and three networks ago. I feel like
a different app.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
What it gonna do is we are gonna wind up
rewatching it one day and we'll be like, oh my God,
and the world will be opened up to us and
we'll be like this. They did such a better job
of world building than I even thought they did.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Probably especially with the second season of that now we're
on you know, We're in Metropolis or the other one.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Mmm.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'm realizing they ended with some magic shit going on
in them. Not sure what the cliffhanger was for kite Man,
you know, I forget though. That was one of the
major arcs here was what kite Man is so just
inherently trusting that he can be trusted to have the
anti life equation apparently.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, well he doesn't have any.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like man just vibes dude's vibe. Yeah, he can have
it his life equation.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He can't have the anti life equation. He doesn't really
have like any real issues that he wants to as
far as like wanting to take over and dominate, and
he has no darkness within him.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah. Yeah, he just really wants to impress his dad
and other than that, and even that has limits, and
other than that, he's just kind of chill.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Now, something that was worrying even on this scale was
taking away his kite for a while. For most of
the season. It seemed like I.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Don't think it was most of the season, wasn't I
feel like it was like it was it was from
like where he was a douchebag best mode when he
became bestmo they took it away?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Was it only then? Okay? And I think I thought
it was longer of course, like got a deep power.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well most of the time he was just hanging out
behind a bar anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, sure it was only eight up or had it
in case he won, But I.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Get it, like I you know, back in the day,
Like I would always get aggravated when they would like
nerve beetlejuice.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm like, oh man, this is an episode where
they've done something and he now he's like a thing,
he said, some kind of weird looking thing. He doesn't
have his powers, and Lyddy has got to help him.
The whole episode is just like boring, normal dude needing help.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, one day, another interesting take will come along and
I'll be in the right mood for it again, mm hmm,
and I'll be down and I'll be open to it again.
Right now, I just don't have anything left in my
soul for depowered super Hmmm. I'm just a little bit
exhausted on that meme. Yeah, you just have times you
don't want to see a thing for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I look, look, I was tired of that shit. When
Spider Man two came out and get it, like with
Toby Maguire, like when he lost his powers in that
movie in the theater, I went.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
This second.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But you know, keep in mind, I mean obviously here
rolling my eyes angry because they did, you know, storylines
like that in Spider Man the animated series, and I'm like,
oh god, the whole season where they're doing like the
mutant thing where you know, he's he grows the extra
arms and then he becomes a giant spider and the
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destroying him molecularly. And I just want Spider Man to
be Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, an issue I didn't think we'd be,
you know, facing here at kite Man.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, you know, of course, I you know, now I'm older,
and I understand the heroes need obstacles and yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Sometimes I think that's that they had obstacles and that's
why they got those cool powers, and I'd like to
see those on display.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Uh huh, poor, I just don't like dragging out stuff
too too long.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, it may have been more tasteful than I thought.
You said. It was only an episode and a half apparently,
or two maybe at Max.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah before well the whole thing was on Max.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But yeah, this part time.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Can I just say just quickly that I.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Want to pull the clip.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Kind of feel like this might be the worst episode
we've done in a really long time.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Do you think that's fine?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I do, it might be. I would, you know, uh,
implore the listener to stick with us. We might turn
it around as possible it is possible. What did you
think of Queen of Fables attaching herself to dudes, dudes
bro du Bro's twin How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That was I'll piece together what was meant there? I'm hoping,
but if I recall, had that work? She she became
the extra head for a little while.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, like she they finally locked off in bros twin brother.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And after he admitted it and then yeah, what do
they do with that?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, he wanted to because he just got the one body,
so yeah, he wanted to go. Well, we saw them
making out and they were alluded to other things happening,
which was pretty gross. Yeah, of course, because the rest
of that side of his body is dead. But the
other thing though, was like, eventually he wants to go
quote unquote get eaten by insect Queen and Queen of Fables.
(15:47):
While they're in there, she detaches, and while they're in
there trying to rescue him, they find Queen of Fable's
body in amber or whatever whatever it is that queen
insect queen.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Didn't Yeah, and uh she goes back.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, So basically the sexual body horror portion is yeah,
I can think I could live with it in this context.
I mean, I don't I don't know what half a
dick is like, especially if it's split down the middle
like that, mmm, like I presume it would be. But yeah,
they seem to make it work, so okay. Otherwise didn't
freak me out too much. I was mostly at that
(16:25):
point happy to see the little remnants of the head go.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So yeah, I kind of storyline that came after it
was was an upgrade.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This might be a thing for season two, but I
kind of want I kind of want Joe to come
back and be like just a person, not an extra.
Like I don't want him to be wearing the double
suits anymore. He just shows up and he's like I
finally got over it, you know, Like I don't know,
like just like a normal person. But that could also
have like some psychological effects.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, I mean, he'll be half normal, but like I
think they have to. He'd be like half crutch, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't know, like because like the dead parts of
his body were still moving.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's good, but he was just still he was still
walking around. Yeah, yeah, I don't know how the way.
I don't know how he works. I don't think I
want to. I'm good with it. M I don't think
they're gonna get ready of the guy though, too big
and bulky.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What did you think of dark Side's chorus?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh, I forgot about the his little Holliback chorus. Yeah,
that was one of the best additions I forgot about. Yeah,
dark Side in the whole show. I couldn't play some
moment to say in my life right now. But it
turns out the Harley Quinn treatment of dark Side in
general is fun mm hmm. And yeah, they're little kind
of I guess it's a dramatic chorus kind of situation
(17:44):
because I remember they kept saying stuff that the audience
should know, like this is fucked kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah. Sometimes they were just repeating what dark Sides?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, what did who did dark Side? Like? We would
like the pet smart or whatever and grab that guy
because he had to serve him for all eternity because
he went back on his word or something, or he
said that it was not going to be an issue. Oh,
he said that Tracker, the cat Tracker would stay in
Cheshire and.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It didn't it cost him his life naturally.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, yeah, he's like, you must serve me for eternity,
and he's just like, okay, well kind of tell my boss. I'll,
you know, leave in two weeks. No, you have to come,
you know. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's like the epitome of the Tom King reaching for
the veggie dip kind of dark side.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Now it is, it is, And I love the way
that they had that character as all customer service representatives are.
I love that they had him just pliable, apathetically pliable
to the next forever that he'll have to deal with
bullshit just you know. It wasn't even like oh no,
no please, no, yeah, sure oka tell my boss. No, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I had no expectations anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
What do you what are you hoping for for season two?
Because I don't feel like we got like a ton
of like actuals of an actual story. Like I don't
feel like these characters, it doesn't really feel like these
characters really turned any corners.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, No, I also don't know what they I think
we said this after every season of Harley Quinn, or
at least the early ones. I don't know what the
hell they're going to do with the last season or
another season of Kite man, they told a very specific
story and they got out of it. Like I think
at the end of this, at like the end of
(19:35):
episode ten, they literally fly off into the distance together.
This could have been not picked up and it would
have been fine.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Mm hmm. I think. So.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What also has me a bit, you know, stymy, is
what the fuck do you do?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What do you upgrade from antile afic question?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You go smaller, you tell a more quiet tale.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, well, but that's also got me, like, what do
you do a more quiet tale about a young couple
that just wants to get married and maybe start a
small family business. Because they did that too.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah they did. I want to know more about
the time travel toilet, and I want to know more
about Golden Glider's powers, where they come from, and how
she learns to control.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That is true. We did not talk much about her powers.
She can fuck some stuff up. Mm hmm. I think
that's all there is to say about him that. I mean,
when she turns on everyone in the vicinity just close
their eyes and hopes they're there on the other side
of it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't remember that very quick. I don't remember them
really giving a comeuppance to her. Mom.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
No, I mean, I don't think that's gonna get any better.
I think we're think we're pretty fuck there. And the
mom storyline kind of moved its way into bag a
little bit, which means we can play with it wherever
we want to. And they clearly liked the Mom character.
Then she has an interesting character mm hmm. But I
don't know, I mean it, there's enough to play with her,
(20:52):
But I didn't get any signs that she was going
to turn around anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, No, I just uh, you know, is she uh?
Is there you know, a possibility of hope that we
can get rid of her, take her down a notch.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't know. She's also kind of slick. I think
she's pretty much gonna blood consequences the rest of her life.
I see her as one of those types.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, I mean, I just want, like Glider and Guide
Man's parents.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
To be sacked around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
What. I kind of feel like they need to wind
up together.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, and that would be a great punishment.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, in some way.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It'd be a win to watch, not to be a
part of sure with Glider, do you I mean we
have seen a live version of Glider before but I
don't remember what they even said she could do in
the show there, But god, I thought, I thought, I
remember versions of this where she just had skates and
she was basically like it was kind of like Iceman
but with gold. For whatever reason, it didn't seem all
(21:50):
that powered. It was just kind of acrobatic and for
some reason metallurgical or a chemical whatever the fuck you
want to call it. But yeah, and this thing she's
got like a whole inside spirit demon situation. That's m
huge upgrade.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean, she certainly didn't have those powers in the
live action Flash show that they just finished making.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Your God, no, although they could have. I really liked
kind of I remember Henning for a while. I haven't
seen an actress in a while either.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, check this out. Lisa Snart is a figure skater
known by the alias Lisa Starr, who has help in
her career from her secret coach and Lover the Top,
a foe of Barry Allen Slash the Flash, who dies
after being injured in a battle with him. Furious over
his death, Start vows revenge, adopting an orange ice skater's costume,
a mask, and ice skates which create their own ice flow,
(22:40):
which allow her to effectively skate on air. She also
has diamonds and jewels that can be used as explosives
or hypnotic devices. The Golden Glider seeks revenge against Alan
for several years and frequently collaborates in her heights with
her brother, who is very protective of her. Yeah, that
ain't this character.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so they went way overboard with their hair,
which is fun. Yeah. I think it's that the only
time they're gonna get away with though. You can't do
that with kite Man. We're not gonna I'm not gonna
buy that.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You gave him superpowers and he just turned into a chat.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It, says the New fifty two. She is dying of
a brain tumor. She survives the tumor being removed. Then
she mysteriously appears in South America, going by the name
Glider and wielding meta human abilities. Okay, so I'm sure
they grabbed some some shit from New fifty two.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Just bitten by a Golden Spider in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
She's bitten by a golden tendril. Yeah, we don't know
what kind of tendril. Damn it. You know, the the
in this version. The golden tendrils remind me of the
Crimson bands of ciderac from from Marvel, you know, from
Juggernaut or whatever. I think that was what made to
his costume.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's another scene in the background with the the poor
chorus fill in. Incentence says that's the kid from the
zones up. He looks back at him to Yeah, it's
a wonderful bit.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I do like decide about as much as I ever
do here.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh yeah, I think it was Phil Lamar about it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Probably what isn't Phil Lamar?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So many things?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh I happened to click the scene you were talking
about with the pet store.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, Phil Lamar was Does it give.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Him my antele life equation? Does it? Brandon Brandon?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I said Adam, I don't know. Oh Man still enjoying
Jim Rash as the Riddler from Tom to Tom here?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh yeah, I forgot he was snuck in. Yeah. I
feel like they just call him in for like a
half hour every season at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But it's it's great just him a clock king being
just the most caddy and hateful gaze ever or should
I say cock king. I think they made that joke
in the show, did they any Yeah, I think they did.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think you have to lead with it in that show.
It's only a matter of time. Yeah, it was something
that I remember joking with you about or even get
to it. It kept cracking me up in this one,
as violent as some of the scenes with Glider get,
especially those how they would just like cover her in
just fields of blood and then blur it too, like
(25:14):
it would be nudity, gallons of blood and then blurs.
At some point you're just blurring a giant red portion
of I don't think I could distinguish anything.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And if you had this undone, I always just think
it's funny that they blur any of it because of
how much they curse.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, true, and how filthy.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The humor is. I'm just like, why are you even
why are you even bothering to blur? You know, Harley's
tits all the blood? You know, Like, who cares?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I've always assumed it's not even a cinstership thing. It's
just way funnier to blur it at this point. It
might be I The blur over the you know, bloody
boobs made me laugh every time.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And you're right, you're always kind of stands out in
the show like, okay that we're being coy about. That's great. Yeah,
just just watched the man to capitate over his brother's
shoulder for several episodes. You opened the season with, I
mean a kind of bloodshed that I don't know that
I've seen on television really in sometime.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Just an entire anatomy lesson over and over again, and
they just kept happening. It's a it's a very bloody show.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, as is it's uh the series that sired.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I sure, as they have a doomsday clock in the
basement at Noonan's.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You just realized that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, I don't know why it's back there. I mean
it's on the scene that they're there in the basement
doing something. I just clicked around again. But is that
reference somewhere, because I don't think I ever caught it
when it was there.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I think I saw it, but I don't. I'm pretty
sure I saw it, but I don't think. I don't
remember it being actually referenced in any real way.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The doomsday clock, I get. I don't understand the doomsday
fan next to it, just a wireframe fan.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's funny and weird. I don't know that I get it,
but it's funatically all right. I think that. I think
that's all I've got on the show Man. I I
enjoy it. I thought it was funny to look forward
to a second season.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, it's gonna look quick.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, and I love that it's you know, and lined
up with Harley Quinn. Like stuff from Kiteman is carrying
over to Harley Quinn. And we'll talk about Harley Quinn
season five when we're done with that. Sorry, this one
came in so late. I took me forever to watch it,
and part of that is just because I knew I
wasn't in the mood for it, and I didn't want
to dislike the show.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
It is worth it when you actually sit down for it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah. So anyway, if you feel like it, give us
a peek over at patreon dot com slash DC on screen.
We do put up exclusive episodes from time to time.
You can also if you're a one dollar patron or
five dollar patron, you can get the every episode add free.
So all the annoying, stupid bullshit ads that we have
(27:52):
to put on this on this podcast aren't there. And
I don't know what do you think? Until next time? Yeah,
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