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September 6, 2025 39 mins
What we initially believed to be a short, slow episode with very little to discuss turned out to yield a lot of conversation about a possibly all-white town, undercover martians, alt Eagle theories and a whole lot more!

We're discussing Peacemaker 2x03 - "Another Rick Up My Sleeve"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to DC on Screen.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome into DC on Screen. I am your host, David C. Robertson.
This is my co host, Jason Goss Telo. We have
watched Peacemaker two o three, another rick up my sleeve.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Have watched and watching in the background while we talk.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Whatever, you're watching it in the background while you talk.
I'm solely focused on my notes.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, you're not in the habit of letting it play
in the background while we.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I motherfucker, I get distracted. I am like, I will
get lost to the screen.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Who are you? What now?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
What are we doing? Episode?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I understand exactly. So I don't know what to think
of this episode completely. It is a little short. It
is thirty two minutes long. Yeah, yeah, I wanted more, obviously.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Sure, I feel like it's this is a getting us
the kind of episode. A lot of a lot of mechanics,
a lot of them, a lot of stuff that had
to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
A little bit. But I started thinking, if there's.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
A fifteen minute scene that would have been I guess
too long to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Maybe mm hmm. I was telling you before we started
the show, I sort of like didn't have a huge amount.
I love the show, loved the episode. It's great. Uh,
but I was going, I don't know what there's this,
what there is necessarily to talk about? But then I
started I started thinking of some stuff. And then in

(01:34):
my travels just kind of floating around online, I kind
of saw a couple of people saying a few things
and I went, wait a minute, and then that unlocks
some shit. So let's talk about this thing, all right.
First of all, we've got Rick Flagg Junior coming back,
Joel Kineman and you know you watch Delight. It is
to my delight, and you know what, like you you

(01:56):
listened to the official podcast about this episode, I have not,
so feel free to let me know if how off
base I am on some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh that sounds fun, it does.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So we got Rick Flagg and this was three years ago,
right before the events of the dcu's version of the
Suicide Squad. I'll say he's sleeping with Hardcourt behind June
Moon's back by the way.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, which sounds as dangerous as they describe.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
But it's funny because, like I've seen a lot of
people online saying like this makes suicide squad Cannon. No
it doesn't no, no, because at the end of that movie,
the Enchantress was no longer inside of June Moon. They
killed Enchantress and June was just human at the end
of that.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
So his little statement about like, you know, making her
like you know, snap into the enchantress bullshit. Nah, something
else happened. Something else happened, y'all. Yeah, but it did
make me laugh. So I'm like, would it and I
got people mad at me on on on threads, So

(03:06):
I said it would be hilarious. It would be hilarious
if he if Gunn actually released the aircut but like
made it DCU, Like if he went and been like,
all right, so here we're gonna shoot. We're gonna reshoot
some some Lettos scenes. You get to keep the rest.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, they normally do it. It's not as black and
white on this one. They normally do like a pretty
uh a more deliberate kind of like this is canon,
this is not canon, and it sort of they sort of
slipped it in here and there what is and isn't.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's not as easy of a breakdown. Yeah, Like Andress
is still gonna be sitting there kind of right on
the border. She's she's clearly here and powerful, Like it's
it's Enchantress that he's dating. That he is dating when
he heads to Cortmolites to die yep, officially dating, I guess,
because he's clearly dating his best friend as well.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
But I I don't really know where that leaves us exactly.
I mean, I think it, if anything, really genuinely, it's
just more of a reference to the fact that she's
still in the in play. I don't think it necessarily
pins us down one way or the other on what's
happening with her though.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, she could be a different actress. It might not
be Carl Delving, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Which would be a shame a gun problematic at all.
In them.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Gun didn't talk about any of.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
That, not not to my recollection. I'm okay, I'll go
specifically that.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, So, yeah, we got that he and Harcourt
were best friends and fuck buddies.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
So which means I know, I saw Gun said that
all of the knowledge and all of that, like that
was always the intention in season one, was that Harcourt
and Flag were getting down and they had emotional connections.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Right and he's now thrown in that like that's why
Also Economo seems to struggle with them early on.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Mm hmm. Was that was the whole team knows?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Essentially he was the odd man out on that piece
of knowledge and kind of still is really I guess
maybe or maybe that's what happened on the boat.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh, I don't know, Like they're they're definitely setting up
the idea, like they've been setting up the idea that
they had a an affair on the boat or some
sort of fleeing or one night stand or something.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, but I keep feeling like the sex is the
red herring here.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
It might be the red herring. But also I think
they did have sex, but I think Chris still doesn't
know that the real reason it can never happen with
him and her is because he killed Rick.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah. Now the I may be overthinking the snag there,
but you're you're dead right on that because I definitely
saw Gun say that with his with his mouth hole,
not not not an hour ago. I forget where he was,
but yes, he has said that outright is and it
fits exactly in with what A says too is because yeah,
he says that the thing is like they're they're great,

(06:01):
and she falls in love. He describes it as like
after a couple of years, like her defenses are down
and he loves her or she loves him as his
own person, but they'll never be like she'll never be
able to see him that way because of Rick Flack.
And it makes sense because the big one of the
cooler lines in this episode is just at the end
of the big out or at a Bayo and her

(06:24):
conversation she kind of her big checkmate on the thing
was like, well does he know that? Like, because yeah,
she finally gets to like, okay, so it's never gonna happen. Yeah,
I don't think you told him then, and they they
leave it on that beat, which fits exactly what Guns
said here.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I don't know if that means they'll be getting over it,
but it doesn't mean that we're gonna be talking about
that as a major sticking point at some point in
these episodes.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Mm hmm, all right, let's see.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I just looked up in the Kills captions said, why
are your fingers in my mouth?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
That was great, dude, Me and me and Bethany laughed
so hard when he was like, why are your fingers. Yeah,
that's so good.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, their bit this episode was fantastic, every bit of it,
kind of especially the last scene.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, and everything with Vigilani was a lot of fun.
Where he's like, why are you changing the subject? Oh
my god, Yeah, you're not okay, dude, you're not okay.
What was it? He said, like, yeah, I'm a little
something because I like spiders or something like I can't
remember now, God, it's I should have written that one down.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I think he says, it's it's a little it's a
little macabre or something like that, something like that. That
that even doesn't feel like the right word. It's just
it's just next to the right word there.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
That was the word that I kept coming up with him,
going this not right too.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, it's damn it something healing at us. Yeah, but
yeah he yeah, I forget what that but yeah, like
that's it. That's his big reveal. That's but yeah, but
I guess Chris was there for him and heard him
out on that.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, like how many people have been killed? Oh? So many?
So many? Why why are you change the subject? Yeah,
it's beautiful. By the way, the part that you said,
why are your fingers? Why your fingers in my mouth.
The part that I wrote down was I'm checking for
throw up. That was why, that was what I wrote down.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like, look, look just in his own terrible way. Great friend,
great friend. You could not imagine anyone in your life
more more helpful than this. This man is a friend.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Oh my god, do you know how fast I would
not be friends with someone if they took my pants
off while I was sleeping.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, I understand that. I do completely understand that. But
you got to understand there's a part of me that
would wake up and be like, God, that's so so
weird and very thoughtful, though, what the fuck is wrong
with you? But like, oh god, your head's in the
right spot, like.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Kind of just just just next to the right spot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I am sometimes so fascinated by weirdo behavior like that
that I will completely I will bend my life around
it just to observe more. I don't know, I just wow,
this is fascinating. He did it completely wrong, but I
want to see every beat with my bare.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Eyes, Like when he announced that he had cleaned and
folded Economists's pants with confidence, by the way, with confidence,
with the certainty that it was not the first time there.
I was like, oh, man, economists got drunk, probably spilled
something on his pants and and took him off. That's
why he was laying in the tub. No, no, no, no,

(09:41):
that end credit sequence. Yeah, motherfucker took his pants off
while he was asleep in the tub.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Then gave me a long kiss, gave a little kiss
on the forehead. Yeah. It was adorable. All right, Let's
let's move on over to Chris uh waking up here,
uh and seeing the seeing the time while he's taking
a piss and going come on, piss. Yeah. I have
done that. I have been there. I know exactly what

(10:09):
that felt like to realize that you were gonna you
were to realize you were late, and then it was like,
oh my god, I'm not pissing enough. I'm not pissing
fast enough.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Come on, dudeah around the clock here.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Uh. The most I've related to Chris in this entire
show was scoffing at the child crying in the car,
the little mcullay cockin in the car, the little kid
crying about Peacemaker being awesome. Yeah. Yeah, a little blonde hair,
blue eyed airan bastards. By the way, that's a good point, I.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Thought it was mccullay cockin for a second.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Dude, you know how my old what colly clock is
like fifty I'm aware.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I thought it was weird that they had done like
a weird CD version for a second. So yeah, that
was a sign of age.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I'm not crazy the there there were no people of
color in the alternate reality, right, I don't maybe not
give it a give to look when when you get there.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I am now now I'm looking at the background. We're
in the office at the moment. I mean, don't think now,
I think there is one black lady by the copier.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Okay, it's very blurry though, that's interesting, very blurry because I.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Thought hard maybe on that that could just be really
far away and blurry.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, because I had thought it was Uh, it was
weird that Eaglely attacked out of Bayo, right mm hmm.
That was from a few episodes ago, and that Eaglely.
I was like, what what was Eaglely sensing behind that door?
That he went to that fucking door. So now I've
got a whole theory about how Eagerly is an alternate

(11:40):
Eagly and always was, and that once he was let
inside of that fucking quantum unfolding chamber. He went right
to the door that he knows is his home because
if there's no one in town who was a POC
and like his brother doesn't even know who the fucking
Kardashians are.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
A universe where he and his family are heroes. I
bet you anything. The Sons of Liberty are good guys
in this in this Earth X, I think it's Earth Acts.
By the way, the Nazi universe, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
That would be funny. Well, I mean probably not, just
because you've just seen something like that by.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Now, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
The Nazi part of the Nazi universe tends to shot.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Pretty quickly, Okay, yeah, in like the comic. But you know,
the truth of the fact is, you know, Nazism might supremacy,
that shit is way more like subtle in a lot
of ways, especially when it's like very very uh you
know normal and like communities as very normal. Man, I

(12:42):
tell you what, motherfucker. Like some I've taken some trips,
do some family shit for for like uh holidays, some
of these small towns you just like, oh, it's like nice,
it's idealic I don't. It doesn't seem like anything's going
on here. And then you start noticing there are no
people of color and there are Trump signs everywhere, and

(13:08):
you're like, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Walking in tow this is back up, slowly, don't look away,
back up, slowly toward the car.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think at first you think everyone's smiling at you,
but then you realize it's that old person grimace like
I don't know, newcomers in town, probably fucking liberals.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I picked up a second ago the microphones. The microphone
is like just over the TV where it is. I
just sort of poked my head up a second ago,
just in time to see a meta duck.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Ah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
By the way, Tim Meadows will be the guest on
the next episode of their podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's excellent that you can do this for you. So
what do you think any chance of eagerly being racist
against out of bio and trying to get back home
who it's a Nazi dimensioned.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
No not, I don't think that one. I see, I
see the insidious little backstory on the back there.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I granted it's it's plausibility in the in the most
dry sense, but I don't think so Okay, I don't.
I just don't feel like that's where we'd go with
it for for any given reason.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
We can uh.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Also, puppies don't smile that big at a Nazi universe.
Look at there, you just can't.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I did see, uh a lot of people pointing out
that there are no there are no people of color,
and they were like, even even the pets are white.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That is hilariously true. Though I have no idea what's
going on with that. I've been watching the background this
whole time, and it's dead right. I though I saw
I like, there's one lady by the copy here, there's
another one that when I got a closer look at her,
I think she just had a really great tan.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'll let you know if there's an exception. But we're
I mean, in the background that I'm in, We're almost
to Jerry blowing up right now.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah. I'm actually also wondering if if.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
That's a good point, there's a crowd when he gets out,
so I'll get more more dated then.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, there's what was I about to say? Jesus, I'm
not sure. My brain just fucking's gone. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
We could talk about Darry for a second, if you like, oh, okay,
loop back around.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Oh yeah, I got you, I got you. I know what,
all right? For I think Chris in the alternate universe
was working with the Sons of Liberty. That's why he
was disappearing more and more. According to his brother, he
wasn't doing drugs again, he was fucking helping the Sons
of Liberty again. No, I think the Sons of Liberty
are the good guys.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh in this universe.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think in in this universe, the Sons of Liberty
are the good guys.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Okay, all right, So I mean think that's I think
that's an over stretch. I granted, I'll give you the plausibility.
It's not it's not impossible.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm not saying they're doing the right things. I think
they're doing the wrong things for the right reasons. But
I want to take I want you to take note
when he kills that lady in the elevator, not in
the elevator, in the stairwell with that other dude's gun.
They took time out to show another Son of Liberty

(16:12):
running up and calling her by name and like collapsing
and crying beside her, like these aren't like hard lined
terrorists who have no feelings. These are people who are
doing something for a cause and were genuinely heartbroken to
see one of their own gun down.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Now, all right, so here's what I can tell you
from the podcast episode that will shine some poor light
on the theory.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
They gun.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Specifically talks about how like they're terrorists, of course they
had to die.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
He's landing squarely on their pieces of shit side of
the equation. Okay, Now they joke about how in the
episode they joke about how like, oh, Jerry blah blah
Blah's like, yeah, but they all had names. There was
Bob and so and so. They all had a name, right,
But I think that was either I don't know if
that was like an onset joke or not, but apparently
all of them had names they went by.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Mm hmm. Well, terrorists are still terrorists, and they're doing
the wrong thing, even if it's for the right reasons.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
He's definitely in his tone implying that there's no right
reasons happening.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Here, gotcha. Okay, Okay, I mean, look, but you know,
you take a swing.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah yeah, but I'm saying that's implied with his tone
and then you know, he could just be fucking with
that too, but that's just my read on it. But
I would even still have to say, like, cucka cool
if all that's true, there is still the middle ground
that I was thinking you were going for, where like
what if Peacemaker, Like, I'm still just a little bit

(17:41):
convinced that this, the Chris Smith that that got killed
was a dick, like a douchebag anyway, So yeah, it
just won't surprise me if we find out that maybe
like maybe that is true. Maybe he is running around
with the Sons of Liberty or some ship.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, maybe he is.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
And like dicking around and doing some fucking douchebag stuff,
And yeah, maybe it won't be as tragic as it
could otherwise be when they eventually do find out that
he killed their real brother, right, because man, every second
is borrowed time, right.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Can I just say that if we are on Earth
X or if this is some sort of Nazi Earth,
if mister Gunn is listening, please Gi Robot. Yeah, yeah,
as if he could go back and redo it now
if he didn't do it, you know, but no, clearly
this thing is all wrapped up and you know, there's

(18:31):
no going back. But man, it'd be great if I
saw a live actually GI robot. That's really all I'm saying.
I'd love to see that.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
That would be and just for fun. That's I don't
think I've ever wanted something to be a practical effect
more right, Yeah, like that, don't see GI me the
that robot. Let's make that robot. M h.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
All right, still looking.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
For for any any pocs in the background. I'll let
you know if anything develops there. Right now, we're still
striking out.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, absolutely, let's talk about let's talk about mister Langston Flury.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
To be fair, I see a lot of middle ground
poc It's just like, yeah, it's just it's it's an
interesting thing you've brought up.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
All right, So mister Langston Fleury as played by Tim Meadows, Uh,
there is this is This is not something I came
up with. This is a thing that I saw on
on the internet. A lot of and a lot of
people kind of piecing this one together, and I will
admit it has me intrigued. Many people believe that Langston

(19:40):
Flury Tim Meadows is Martian Manhunter. No, no, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well he made the comment from a dubious position.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Clearly he made the comment that Martians have one big eye,
which they do in the absolute universe, but not not
in the prime universe. So I don't know what to
do about that one.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I just read that as he just kind of was
getting it wrong.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a thing though, where he
is sitting in front of the screen and it does
like a white, I mean not white, a green color
over him, like an episode or two ago, and a
bunch of people were tying that in as in like a, oh,
that's foreshadowing he's gonna be a Martian manhunter. And of

(20:32):
course Martians wouldn't know what the fuck earth birds look like. Wow,
I don't know. They would have they have telepathic powers.
They would have telepathic powers. The would be able to
know like, oh, that's an eagle.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
You could hear the right word in somebody else's brain
if you were confused. Yeah, plus plus right. How do
you say John Jones or do you just say John?
I mean I know John Jones, and there's like version
but like.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Did you ever try the weird funny version?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I do whatever I feel like doing.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, pretty much, but he's not a dumbass, is my point,
some man who sits on the council up in the
watch tower for God's sake. No, yeah, no, I have
identify an eagle.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
So for every you know, the fact that he brought
up the Martian thing, the fact that they did the
green thing, there are seemingly I feel like though more
I'm having fun with it and thinking about it. I'm
not convinced, but it is fun to like be like, well, okay,
why would he is the bird blindest thing? I cover like,

(21:39):
was he just afraid if he is Martian Manhunter? Would
he just have been afraid that the rest of his
team would see him taken down eagerly? Because there's no
way Martian Man Hunter would be taken down by eaglely.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, all right, serre's another thing that's that's uh that
a run across on the podcast. I think it was
in previous episode though m hm was Guns seemed to
describe it as he knows someone with face blindness and
just kind of knows how odd that is. And I
think I think I described it the other day. I'm
the show if I doesn't know what it is, but

(22:11):
like it's he thought it was odd anyway, and he
just thought, well, wouldn't it be wouldn't it be possible
slash interesting or funny if someone just couldn't do that
with birds for some reason. I don't I didn't gather
from the way he described it it was all that directed,
other than the fact that he knew someone with that
and thought it would be funny.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Right, Well, that's great. I mean I kind of don't
want it to be Martian Manhunter because I just want
Tim Meadows to be tim Medas. Did I did hear
that he couldn't He had a really hard time casting
this role.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, he did go into a detailed story about that,
or he said he I think he said he looked
like one hundred and fifty or something like that people
or something like, yeah, m a lot of attempts, and
then he said that he finally at the end was
just like, God, I just wish I could get like
tim Medas or something, and somebody's like just fucking ask him. Yeah,
here we are.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, and Tim Meadows does a great job. Uh, he
told me, Doug, Yeah, why would you take advantage of
a man? Is it funny? Yes?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Incredibly, But yeah, I conferring to the honesty.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
There's fantastic. Yeah, and that's why, like, I don't, A
big part of me does not want this to be
a ruse. I just want this to be lengthton Flurry.
I just want that. I don't want any of that.
I don't want to look back on the season and
go like, no, he was doing something on purpose here
to No, I just want it to be this is
just a ridiculous person.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, No, I don't. I'm not gathering from the tone
as they're cackling around this table talking about it, that
they have any real plan for bird blindness other than
they thought it would be hilarious to do that to us.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Now. I do have questions about Chockos because we saw
the gun posted that picture of that close up of
the Oreo rip offs chacos that are in the DC universe.
I am wondering why that was there.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, that wouldn't just be a mistake. It's not just
a whim. I don't know what to do with it either,
But so far we're striking at it wasn't mister Hansome
gonna be I don't think it's gonna be what's his
name here, but Flurry.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, Yeah, Lina laughed at most in the episode. Was
was from ten Meadows, you almost got titties killed? He does,
you almost got titties killed?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Like he's just so serious, man, that's it is. I
get why they were, like, Man, I just wish I
could have Ten Meadows do this.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah all right. Uh. By the way, the pencils in
the head worse than they were in the trailer, right right,
it is.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's the feeling of the milk carton on your teeth,
but my whole body can feel it. It's terrible. I
oh mm hmmm. I hope to never see that one again.
Although the other major death in this was what what
Joel Kenneman on the podcast called the malnourished man that

(25:25):
died in the hallway or something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
The one that got an accident. Head went what what
what happened?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I loved that death so much, man.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, that was great. That was great, all right.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I think Joel was like, I felt bad for him.
Life clearly was not kind to that guy. Yeah, just
put him out of his many who wandered into a
terrorist group by accident.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, he thought, you know, we're gonna go get some beers,
gonna have a little fun. Oh I'm okay, we're gonna
blow up some ship. Well cool man fucking allyball, Like.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Someone just promised him a trip to rallies after this
and he that's all he was really in it for.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right boom? All right? How about this? Uh alt alt
Rick Man alt Rick is some combination of Dwight from
the office and Gareth from the UK Office.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, he is Dwight squared.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's like swoll Dwight Dureth. Yeah, good god.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah it is he he really is.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
They kept calling him mealymouth rick m M. I didn't
even remember what melle mouth meant until they started saying it,
and I was like, oh, yeah, that's right, Yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
He was.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That was glorious man. The bit over the trash can
would that? Would that rush? Like I teld you about that.
It's a big problem, Like it's just fun, so fantastic
man the two phones.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, he's ridiculous and uh.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Terrible yeah yeah and about to get dumped probably.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Well. I'm also thinking though, like what could be what
could be so bad? Why would why would peacemake her
not stay with that hardcourt? The grass ain't always greener?
I think that's the whole theme of this whole season. Okay,
he's gonna get in with her and then realize she's
a fucking Nazi maybe like everybody else. Yeah, something real bad.

(27:26):
It's about about to be going down over the other reality.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm telling you, I do it's I'm dead certain you're
right about that. We're gonna find out that that there's
some serious underbelly here. I don't believe it will be Nazism,
but give it time.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Give it time. It always becomes Nazism.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, put anything in a vacuum logging off, it will
Nazi up.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, stick anything in a vacuum, and eventually Hiles.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, eventually smacks the glass with its right hand.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
People just say he's stimming. He's stimming.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, sorry, sorry, we tied the jacket wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Mm hmm. I think that's all I have, man, Honestly.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I have a couple of a couple of ads.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm happy to see Judo Master, I'll say that as well.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Judio Master also Rooker.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, I'm fine with Rooker. I like, I did laugh,
but he was like everyone's like shipping on him for
being an eagle killer, and he's like, oh come.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
On, man, Yeah, yeah, well at the very end and
they say, yeah, you get to kill this one l
and all the eagles in surrounding area.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
No, just the one that got me. Now.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Kenneman apparently was calling him Captain cultural Purse reparation.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Uh huh, which is beautiful. That's good.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I think. I think he's He's not gonna be much
of a character I'm getting the feeling of, but he's
gonna be good for a laugh. I'm liking it.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Bethany saw him, was like, why is Willie Nelson hanging
out with? Yeah? Yeah, he's just going south of the border, baby,
don't worry about that. You got some taxes to pay off.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
A couple extra flavors of necklace on Willie Nelson and
tossed him out there and fed him really well. Finally,
I imagine I've always thought of Willie as a pretty
skinny dude. But h so, I think it was HBO
DC was reposting this earlier today, just the screenshot of it.
But were you shocked by the explosion? What explosion in

(29:30):
the episode? Yeah, Jerry, Yeah, I think his name was Jerry.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh oh yeah, in the little quad there. Oh yeah,
I wasn't. I wouldn't say I was shocked. I just
kind of went, okay, yeah, I was just like just
watching the show.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I was just well know, I just mean, did they
get the startle out of you they were going for?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't think they did.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, Okay, Now he specifically asked Joel about it because
he wanted to. I think he that was the goal
was they were trying to.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I thought it was well done. I mean, the shot
goes I went back in click click play again on
that one, and sure enough, yet it does a lot
of it's wider shots for a second, and they start
getting tighter and tighter shots, and then there's a they
pull out just just a second right as you start
to hear little little stampeding just a little bit, and
then there's just the shot gets just wide enough that

(30:17):
in the blackground you see the blurs are going real
fast now for some reason, and then they pop out
and explosion. I thought it was well done for a startle.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah. I didn't startle me because I was seeing the
blurs go by quickly and I was like, oh, somebody's
running for some reason. Yeah. Yeah, let's put it like this.
I am not like the characters of twisted metal, who
will have sex with the whole room burning down around them?
I noticed, Shit, I'm like mag I was running.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I've never had sex with Anthony Mackiew. I don't know
what today. Maybe he would.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I mean, I wasn't putting the oners completely on on
Stephanie Beatrice, But.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
In that room, you would have made some decisi Dave.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean, I know me, I'm probably not gonna finish anyway.
I'm incredibly distracted during sex.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
It's also fair I'd probably just count my that would
That would be me is like, you know what, I'm
distractable enough as is. We clearly got to relocate, right clearly, right.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know that I
would have been comfortable, uh, trying to start something in
there anyway.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I'm not sure either.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's too much of a high octane situation. That's I
understand this some people's think, but this is just you know,
judging it based on what I would do is not
a good idea.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's I understand. Anyway, May I direct you to something
if you didn't see it, but I feel like you would.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Have well, let me quickly to direct our listeners to
twisted metal, and now we'll move on and stop talking
about it. And what do you got?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Huh? Ok, that peacemaker mixes up your your yep? I
noticed it killed me?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I want to know everything about how that made it
into the show.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh, because he's clearly is the kind of guy who
would mix.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
It, who would mix those up.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I was kind of hoping on the podcast they would
confirm that, like, hey, we figure, we figure Chris is
just sort of like an average speller, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, And I'm a grammar Nazi, so that's my Nazism.
I thought about all the rest.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I'm glad. I'm glad there wasn't much of the left
of the episode or much of the episode left, because
I was thinking about it the all time.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
It made me like him less as a character. I know,
like it actually made me like the character less.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Y'all, it really did. I know that really hurts me
a little bit to see, but you're a dead right.
It did have an effect on me. I just I don't.
I just like errors like that when they're like because
like in a situation like this, you did that on purpose?
Mm hm, now why and then if that's the case,
or we're just okay, So just bad spelling as a

(32:57):
character choice got you no problem.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
And you know what, hero I was so proud that
he hadn't made Lois Lane about speller for no good reason.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then we might have Chris Smith doing poor in
English class.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I mean there must be recompense. The universe demands some
sort of balance, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I guess can't be that Jack Denn spell correctly fine.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Lois Lane will be a fine speller. Yeah, but I'll
take it out of peacemakers ask gun.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, supermacious, jealous of me.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
And guns like she's got spell check, she has no
reason to ask all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, that would have been I hadn't thought about how
spell check. I didn't thought about that part of the equation.
How dumb that would be these days.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, of course I've got a spell check over on
substack that will be like, oh, hey, uh, you can
spelled that wrong, like no, I didn't. And then you
click on it and it turns out you hit a
different version of it, like you accidentally hit the wrong
key or something so was spelled wrong initially and it
corrected it, but then it was like, hey man, uh,

(34:05):
you sure you don't want to make it ablorbable? No, No,
I'm fine with absorb. I just hit the wrong key.
Why are you like pointing it out to me now,
you piece of shit? Yeah, I just want to make
sure that you knew that you spelled it wrong. I
just didn't want it to be like, hey man, I
just changed your shit. You sure you don't want to
go back to Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
You're like, thanks, Did I spelled douche correctly? Comm a
douche dick?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Spell check?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, dick? So were you getting Also another question that
were you getting nervous at the end? And I don't
know if you know this about the next episode, but
one last thing from the podcast that I'm passing on,
since part of my function this episode has been to
pass on information from their podcast.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay, so clearly.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Clearly our piece maker as we know him in love
has walked into the house. Uh, it's a bit of
a fuckstorm in there.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
He's he's about to find but but interestingly enough, he's
about to walk in and find the aftermath is and
weird shit, but also be right in the middle of
some other math math is a coming. It's down the street,
just just one, just like a couple hundred feet away, right, sure,
So what I what he said on the next episode
is that at the beginning of episode four, we will

(35:27):
get the explanation for how the Qeds got into the
equation the doors. How did Peacemaker come to possess one
of the most powerful objects in this universe?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I mean thinks this. Well, we'll find out that eaglely
is from the other.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Universe, possibly possibly. Now, look, I we never did get
an explanation for why that eagle went straight for that door,
So I'll grant you that there's something else out there
with that.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
M h.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'll stop right before we get the KNA system though.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, I'm you're not gonna.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Sell me on that one yet. All right, I'll leave
the door open the one for now.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I mean if you if you leave the door open,
I don't have to peck at it exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's easier in everyone and the pack.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
What else? What else we got?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
My only my only remaining note was just that, uh man,
I'm loving these scenes between between the brothers. The these
They've done him a couple of episodes now and a
couple of scenes. They've had three or four good scenes
with the with just Chris and Keith and really love it,
Like I really enjoyed the back and forth in the kitchen,

(36:37):
were like, what are you fucking talking about? Like Chris
trying to get act trying to get what he can
out of him, but like Keith not like I did.
Like that the show doesn't make Keith a dumbass. He's
not glossing over the fact that his brother's acting like
a fucking weirdo right now. Like he comes and talks
to him later about it, like then you're disappearing lately
and like you're fucking acting. The show's not just making

(36:58):
me swallow that we're letting Yeah, we're letting Keith explain
that it's weird and also just watching him. Man, those
fucking actors are doing a great job of those scenes.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Dude. Mm hmm, all the.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Little brotherly love touches and the like, man, you're always
gonna be my little brother and all that kind of stuff.
Fucking killing me this year I kill him.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna suck when Chris has to kill him,
I know, because you know this coming right, it's got
to he's gonna have to kill his brother and dad
in that universe.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's got to now. That is why I'm secretly, not
not secretly, kind of rooting for this route where this
Chris is a is a giant douche, where like I'm
hoping he finds out that other Peacemaker was a bad
guy and they're like sad that their brother's dead. But
also maybe I guess he was a bad guy, and

(37:46):
I guess I didn't have to do it, so that's cool,
mm hmm. But I'm imagining a scenario where where Chris
Smith gets to keep his family and that James Gunn's
not gonna let me do that, so I'm probably very wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
M I mean'd be kind of cool if we got
a semi happy ending.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Some of that least. I would really like him walk
out of here with some fucking family, like something he
can call a family, just as a character. He's done
a lot to earn that. I do think gun would
give us that too.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, sure, but you know, I think his family is
the eleventh straight.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Kids I know, and I'll get back to that too,
But I mean, and I give him this too, like
it's it's one thing to do the found family and yes,
you know, eleven strict kids his family, but he also
just never got any real experience of a biological love,
you know, like nothing like that. It's hard not to
understand that he's extremely distracted by that search right now.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
They were all talking about how that little grope on
the ear from the previous episode.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Which is yeah, yeah, that was rough.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, that was a what you said, Robert Patrick, that
was his invention, by the way, Mmmm, that was his call.
Wasn't in the script to do anything necessarily walking away?
I think he said, I would wasn't in the script
to do any thing walking away, and he just thought
a light touch like that would be good.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Mmmm, very effective, great call.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah man, I'm out of my sidebars too.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
All right, I think that's it. We have a bunch
of news did drop, so we will uh unless you
things have changed on your end, We'll have a news
episode uh this weekend. That sounds good for you.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, major piece. We got to discuss.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Absolutely a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
You want to talk theories and extrapolation. Oh girl, mm
hmmmmm hmmm, screwdriver out.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Alrighty ah man, thank you guys so much for listening
and I uh, I don't know. Drop as your your
your feedback, DC on screen at gmail dot com and
we'll be back soon. Until then, keep some DC on
your screen. Hi,
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