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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, welcome into DC on Screen. I'm your host
Staven See Roberts, and this is my co host Jason Guss. Hello,
and my, oh my. We have had us a what
what what three three weeks a month? I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
We're on an eight hour tour.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Lord, we've made up seven year. We've made up for
it today recorded so much and we're gonna continue that trend.
Let's talk about Supergirl. Man. First off, Man, I keep
seeing people usually well, if this number is this two
hundred million dollars number is true, if that's the budget

(00:41):
for Supergirl, y'all. Gun has already said it's not even
a little bit true. I know that Forbes said it,
but it was.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
If you yeah, And he was real quick to point out, very.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Quick, well, someone asked specifically if that was true. But
you know they I think when you look at the article,
it was very much like, oh well, I mean, you
know they were guestimating. It wasn't like we are reporting
that this is two hundred million dollars. They was. It
was like a guestimate in the Forbes article. So there's that. Uh,

(01:15):
we did get the first look at the Supergirl suit
at CCXP. That's pretty Uh, who gives a shit at
this point, But there are pictures. There are pictures out
there if you really want to get a good look
at it. There are some really good pictures out there,
and you can type in c c XP and you
will find those good pictures. But since that time, we've

(01:36):
also gotten a Supergirl teaser clip, another Supergirl teaser clip,
a Supergirl poster, and a Supergirl teaser trailer. Now, the
two teaser clips were mostly just the same as what
some had a couple of shots from the teaser trailer,
so we were not going to review those specifically. They're there.
I do want to say, because there have been a

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lot of people complaining, like, why don't we have to
have teasers for the teasers, because if they don't, you say,
you didn't even fucking mark. The movie keeps the hype going, man,
I don't know it does.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
It does keep the conversation right. I don't mind the
teasers when they're you know, there's still just gonna be
an overall problem with oversharing that trailers have. Yeah, you
have to avoid that. You have to do a good
job of avoiding that.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I think they have so far.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
That's the trick. Yeah, yeah, we're not too far in here.
I mean this is a teaser trailer. We're not even
really getting the proper three minutes. But what is it?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
So it's uh, this is December. This is a June
twenty sixth six two six six, and yeah, like that's
only enough time for a trailer, maybe like a one
final one. They're going to do too many more.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't have a couple of two or three more.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think, well, I don't think they'll have a full three.
I don't think we do that for Superman.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You don't think so. I don't remember. I think it
was just two, but I know they had the they
went crazy with like spots.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, spots were everywhere, but I think instead maybe or
I don't know if it's in place of if it's
really zero something like.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That or what.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
But I saw a lot of spots and little things
and visiting this and that a lot more getting around
than I saw like a second trailer. It really was
just do it. I think it was like the first
trailer and then another one that kind of had some
of the same footage. Even then the first one as
the first one, and then we were just sort of
into the movie because you know that was happening in

(03:29):
days at that point.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
What did you think of the Supergirl poster that they
put out, the Lookout floating one. Yeah, where she's floating
she got her hands in the in the pockets of
the trench coat.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, yeah, and love immediately.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
It took me a second to realize she was floating,
and that made it infinitely cool.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Have you seen somebody did a version of the same trailer.
They did a version of the same poster, but with
Sasha Kaye Supergirl and Melissa Banois's character Supergirl, and I
love I love all three of them.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like they look so good, Like I'd not a bad
choice for it.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Give me fucking Laura vander Wharton, Helen Slater and I
will buy all of them and have them there somewhere, please.
But I thought it lotto.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I think they're it's some pose that I've seen John
Lennon do. It's a it's a very popular pose. I
think it's like the old James Dean pose, you know,
where you're just back on the wall with one foot knee,
one knee up cock things. That's that is. It's a
killer pose. It always is. She wears it well. And
then yeah, we're adding the floating really knocked out of

(04:37):
the park.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I mean it's my phone background, and I was very
very They are selling it right now. It's in the
Supergirl merch shop. I'm like, no, no, no, no no no,
I need it. Yeah. Of course when they released the
Superman trailer, I bought it immediately. It's on my wall
behind me.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
So yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right, let's talk about the Supergirl teaser trailer. Uh, we've
got Crypto pissing on a on a newspaper that says
Superman saves town from nuclear reactor explosion. And uh, and
then there's like a little side story and that's cute
that says Supergirl rescues cat.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Mm hmm. I think that's the funniest joke so far
on the trailer, the dog pissing on the Superman rescues cat.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
We got the force field coming into place around Argo City.
We've got I don't know what is this. Is this
a Kryptonian funeral march? Is it them carrying Kara's ship
or I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Know that march after she says, you know, the gods
weren't so kind yes, I she's in it. I think
it's it's definitely funeral march. There's somebody on on the
this that's a Those are Paul Bears. But but I
don't I don't know, like I don't know how much
we're going to talk about with or how many deaths
that's going to represent with her. If that was the

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first one, this is, she's going to take us through
the whole there's gonna be Yeah, that's just one casket.
That's the mismatch for me. Otherwise, that's definitely a funeral.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah. So in the source material, Ruthie begins traveling through
the galaxy in search of revenge after the death of
her father or the murder of her father from Krim
of the Yellow Hills.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
And completely needless mother murder.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Absolutely totally needless. That does appear to be on the
table here in this movie. And she is carrying a weapon,
and Krim looks a little different. You notice that he's
the guy with all the shitness face like he looks
a bit like a pincushion.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
He looks like the bulbous one.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and the comic he looks like Conan when he
grew the beard. Yeah, yeah, he's a bit of a fop.
And we got Lobo. I wonder if that was if
Lobo was the bounty hunter that Krim hired, because at
some point Krim gets wind in the comic that Supergirl
and Ruthie are after him, so he hires a bounty

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hunter to go after them.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
No, yeah, yeah, for sure, he's gonna be brought in
as a deterrent. God, I'm looking forward to that fight.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Dude. We got that one little snippet of Momoa as Lobo.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, yeah, in the role he was truly born to play.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah. We did get a shot of Crypto being sick.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, and I was comforted by that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, like the story has Crypto sick and has Crypto
let me just go ahead and spoil recovering. I won't
give you the details, and there's there's more to it,
and it's it's more interesting than that, but roughly Crypto's okay.
But yeah, Crypto gets fridged early on in the in
the yeah, in the story, right, So Crypto being sick here,

(07:45):
it does mean that we're following that part of the story.
That's fine. That means that we're gonna follow it all
the way and Crypto will probably be okay. So it
means that early on, when I see Crypto get hurt,
I can just go ahead and say, okay, he's gonna
make it. I was worried about this. I genuinely was. Yeah,
I didn't want them to go crazy on me and
just go ahead and get rid of that expensive s
cgi dog.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Early on in the series, I am concerned that Crypto
is gonna die.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I am worried me too, Me too, I don't think
guns got If there's a good reason, I think I'll
do it, But I don't. He doesn't just the light
in sadism.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I think he hopefully he knows that if they
kill that dog, a huge chunk of the audience is out.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah. There's a lot of a lot of complaints that
fall into the heading of like how I am I
supposed to How am I supposed to explain this to
my children? Most of the time that you're you're so
full of shit when you when you start your complaint
with that, except now, if you killed that dog, I
would have to be like, well, how do I explain this? Yeah,

(08:46):
I'm sorry. This was the most engaging thing for my
child to watch in this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I especially like looking back
on like so many of this stuff, some of the
move these and TV shows that we grew up watching
and kids grew up watching, and people make YouTube videos like, oh,
we were traumatized by this, Like we didn't even realize
how awful these movies were. Motherfucker. You weren't traumatized by

(09:13):
that shit, and neither was I Like you felt like
it made you grown because you was watching something that
hit like, yeah, that's all that was. You weren't. You
were traumatized by your alcoholic parents. You were traumatized by
the church they took you to where they tauching you
were going to fucking hell uh.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
For or the latch key environment that forced you to
spend all this time with the television and yeah, have
a parasocial relationship with Hollywood begin with.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Were traumatized by the endless fucking purple nurples in the
locker room. You were not traumatized by fucking Milob and otis.
You were not traumatized to move it up a little
by Marley and Me.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Come on, I don't know those shoes and Roger Rabbit.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Those were fucking those were pretty rough, but they didn't
tru rough traumatize me. I just remember thinking like, well,
fuck this movie. This movie is dark as ship. It
is pretty dark for a movie that had Mickey Mouson
in a minute ago that is yeah, yeah, but no

(10:19):
I didn't. I wasn't traumatized. I wasn't like, you know,
laying awake nights going for shoes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Most of the time, you're not traumatized by anything that
you're not going to learn about in some capacity. I mean,
you know, you might have learned about death from Mufasa.
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Maybe that was the day. Yeah, all right, So anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
It's stuck on this. It has the still shot just
here of he really does have this like metallic face.
I don't know to help describe it. He looks like
mostly assembled cpuh.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
He actually now looks like his name would be Krim
of the Yellow Hills.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I like his look. He definitely he looks like
he's about to ask for a fucking pint though.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, he is going to find you out back a pub,
not a man. I'd like to run.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Across map So I feel like Kara mentions that there
are only two Kryptonians left. But you know, I feel
like that's going to be foreshadowing for brainiact probably in
Man of Tomorrow. Yeah, since you know he's got bottled
City of Candor moment, assume he does.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Like, they'll it'd be interesting for it to be here too.
They'll take a minute. Yeah, they'll take a few seconds
in this movie to kind of explain the concept of
Superman while they're at it, in case Supergirl was the
first thing you ever came to and that that scene's
probably just where they'll toss that in. Yeah. Yeah, it's
just me and my cousin.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, well she did say that. She did say, like
there's more like two of us. That's it like this,
But you know, Ruthi's got man. I love the dial
luck that I'm hearing so far in this movie where
like Ruthie has said, uh, what Superman like and and
Carl says, you know he sees the good people and
I see the truth.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, that don't give you chills.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And there there have been some people.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Not to mention she's beating the ship out of some
folk after that, like while she's doing it, it's a
it's a fucking mic drop trailer.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Now, I don't know, you might want to ready the chimps, Jason.
Jason has a We've got plenty of of of complaints
from people. Uh one of them, one of them, one
of the the stupidest things. Go ahead and hit us

(12:40):
and give us the chimps. You know, we got people
saying that. Uh. Well, she says, oh, he sees the
good people. I see the truth, and that's car of
trying to be like, well, I'm better than Superman because
I see the truth and he's just making ship up
coming up with people being good. That's not what I

(13:01):
think is happening. I think Carl is saying like she's saying,
first of all, yeah, he sees the good people, and
maybe he's a little delusional, but also she's saying, I'm
more cynical, like I don't think it's Yeah, it's a
value factor in place there, but you know, yeah, misogyny.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
But you know, in certain interpretations, yeah, that's gonna draw
too well. Actually, I wonder if that's all the same
conversation that they just pulled that from. Hmmm, because you
know that's I mean, let me see the end of this.
If that's just kind of a vo line.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, esus, you know what a superman like.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, she's they're just laying in bed kind of chatting there,
at least she's laying around. Yeah, there's two scenes in
here so far, at least where they're just standing around talking,
like describing. She's describing Kryptonians to someone.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So far.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
All right, so we'll have a couple of expedition moments there.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, I'd really love it.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
The threason there here as well, just to make sure
we tie it all together for the people just casually
paying attention every once in a while.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, I really loved. What was it like to lose
everything in a day? Ruthie says to Kara, and Carl says,
Krypton did not die in a day. The gods aren't
so kind. Yeah, that's great, so fantastic, It's wondrous.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
It is now, I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna read
it again before the movie comes out, and I'll have
to refresh. By the way, Just Stiller stellar work at
the end of the trailer with a giant splash screen
of read where it all began and a copy of
Supergirl Woman Up Tomorrow right there to like do your

(14:41):
homework if you want to, we're going to retell this
story here you go fantastic, which I will. I'll go
ahead read it again because I'm gonna be really curious
that when I actually get to see the product, how
much of the dialogue just gonn be straight out versus
moved around for the screen here. Yeah, as it stands,
the lines I'm hearing, I don't know if they're exactly
out of what Tom can road or moved around or

(15:01):
just helicloth for the movie, but they're fantastic so far.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
They are really good, and I am excited. Like this
made me definitely made me want to go like just
right downstairs and start reading this thing again.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, my god, you're in stained copy of that Daily
Planet Cracker open.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So yeah, I do want to address some of the
criticisms I've seen. I don't think this looks like Guardians
at the Galaxy.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, just but I think that's just a shallow well
of things to draw from, complaining that they feel roughly
like it's been seen before.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's like, oh, we literally had someone on our threads
be like, oh have you not seen the beginning of
Guardians the Galaxy. She's got headphones in the trench coat.
I'm like, motherfucker, I've had headphones in a trench coat
long before I knew what Guardians of the Galaxy fucking
was like, have you not heard of Constantine? Have you

(16:00):
not heard of fucking uh gambit from the fucking X
Men trench.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Where the uh yeah, firefly.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Mout fireflying mouth? How many like, oh my god, trench
coat and fucking space. Let's talk about cowboy bee boppy
piece of ship.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
There's plenty of cowboys in space. It's it's been going
around for a.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
While, all this everything, everything's got to have Guardians of
the Galaxy vibe. They said Star Trek Section thirty one
had Guardians of the Galaxy Vibe. I disagree. I would
have liked it if it had uh fucking the Suicide
Squad had it the oh Wes James gone, of course
he's got Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay, fuck you yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Uh. The other side of this argument, what if we
what if we just shrug and go, okay, you're right
and like the that. I think that's a nod directly
to guardians is to have the headphones. I think the
headphones are even at the deliberate choice to nod toward
we're going to do this. One's a bit more needle droppy.

(17:04):
It's coming from a game a James gun feel like
it's coming from space that he wrote in Like it's
gonna feel a little bit like a gun thing. We're
basically doing a thing that's going to feel a little
bit like a space cow Like, why not lean into it?
Gets some headphones that feel a little bit like it. Hey,
you know whatever, the jacket doesn't even look like it.
That's just stupid.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
No, the jacket doesn't look anything like it. And when
I saw the headphones, I didn't even think of fucking
star Lord. I thought of Whistler's Daughter and fucking Blade Trinity.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
True but so true. But like, even if it is,
and I think it would be wise too go ahead
and make a couple of direct nods to the fact
that we're going to do something that can be seen
as so similar. What the fuck is the problem with
it with it being similar? Like Guardians was? I loved
Guardians ten twelve years ago. Now it had a major
footprint on the rest of you know, comic book movies,

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in particular, on the small genre of stuff that we're
talking about. It has a large footprint. He's not a
small person. Is the reason to put him them in
charge of the other fucking creative universe. It might just
occasionally look like something he did before.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh well yeah, but he didn't even do it. He
didn't even direct. It was Craig Gillespie.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I know, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But even
if that is just a nod to yeah, this is
gonna be you know, look, here's an homage to gun.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh well, yeah, I don't have a pro I don't
have a problem with it if it is and it
was intended to be an homage. But what I have
a problem with is, like every fucking movie they said
that about Superman, it's the same fuckers, the damn chimps
or whatever he wanted to play with from that, you're, uh,

(18:46):
the super shit fuckers it is.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's just a lazy it's a lazy way of think.
It's a I mean, it's a it's a playground bully
tactic of you know, just you do if you have
anything special going on. They just kind of claim that it's, uh,
we've seen that before, nobody cares, Yeah, and just pretend
no one cares until no one cares and I don't.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Think it's gonna work. You know. I looked early on,
within the first twenty four hours, I was looking at
the uh. I was throwing it over into that site
where you can view the dislikes versus the likes, and
it was like seventy eight freaking thousand likes versus like
a thousand dislikes. Like it was like just fuck off,

(19:30):
that is yeah, And that was that was before it
was even in the millions, because I mean it was
I don't know, like nine I think nine million by
the end of the first day, nine million views something
like that. Crazy, right right now?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Sixteen million?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Okay, well there you are. Oh, let's see, let's talk
about Jesus. Yes, what made Craig goalless.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Three hundred and fifty three hundred and fifty two thousand likes?

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Did all right?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah? What made Craig Gillspie agree to direct Supergirl? He's
just talking about Supergirl here, he says. The amazing Yeah,
the amazing thing with this story is she managed to
stay on Krypton like Superman left as a baby, and
she had a very different journey and informs her whole
personality and her existence and her trauma. Really, so I

(20:18):
don't want to get too much into it, but we
do get to visit Krypton on the film. See. That
was one of the things that I saw a lot
of people because talking about on threads was like, I
don't like that she's an alcoholic. People who were people
who were pro like, hell, yeah, she's an alcoholic, and
others like I don't like that she's an alcoholic. What
And I'm like, why do y'all think she's a fucking alcoholic.

(20:41):
She's twenty three and she's got some trauma, and maybe
she's doing a little bit of self medicating, but most
twenty three year olds liked to go out and drinks
a bit. That doesn't mean that she's like a fucking alcoholic. Yeah,
like you teetotaling motherfucker's.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's a funny thing.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
It's a funny thing to watch people react to because
it has it. It tells so much about someone, well
how they hit it. Because you can see someone that
has an obvious problem, no she's fine, No, you both
need to go see somebody, And then there's someone who
has zero experience whatsoever with that substance about oh, she's

(21:24):
clearly got problems. No, bit, she's fine, Karen calmed down,
you know, a different vibe out of that problem entirely too.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, but it's always like, you know, you you start
scratching the service with those people, a lot of these
people who are like, wow, why did they have to
make her a snarky alcoholic And you're like, I don't know,
because it was fun. I got any other issues? Why
I don't like that she's wearing she's not wearing makeup? Ah?
What else you got a problem with? Why I don't
like that? But there's a female? Ah, why do they

(21:53):
have to make her so fucking strong because she's Supergirl? Yeah,
well she's not strong, and super Man probably gone'll maker
stronger than Superman.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah. Yeah, I know you're ramping it up here for that.
But yeah, there's a there's a real dumbed down but
also very real version of this argument where like, if
you ask long enough, eventually you're just gonna say, look,
I just wanted to watch soft Point, Okay, right, all right, right,
you just wanted you really just wanted to sit down
and enjoy like a light experience where you didn't think
about anything other than the fact that girls are roughly pretty,

(22:25):
and that's as far as you wanted to get into
the idea of well, okay.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
They better not be hurting me in though.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah yeah, did you uh, something you're comfortable with does
the saving and you move on and you feel great. Fine.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Did you feel like the new version of Krim looks
too much like a Ravager?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I hadn't thought about a ravager in the slightest No,
so I have to go with straight No.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
All right, well there's that come up.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I've seen several people saying that I don't.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
That's just what every vagabond space crew looks like, it is,
all I mean in that sense, In that sense, they're
all boring and this isn't going to be any better
than the other films. That would be an early critique
of mine, if you want one.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But like, yeah, in that sense, yeah, yeah, I almost
like I probably would have gone with the foppish Conan
O'Brien looking guy.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah. Yeah, but as they're dressed right there, they could
have They could wander into Star Wars in certain scenes,
they could wander into Rebel Moon. I guess if we
wanted to Farescape something that Yeah, there's plenty, plenty of
places they could They could have definitely be in Firefly anywhere.
She can be in Firefly anywhere.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. So Craig Gillespie talked about how like it was, specifically,
you know, the script that was written by Anna Nogura
that really hooked him made him want to work on
the project. He says, the first two scenes, the first
scene in the second scene are really the width and
the breadth of the film. It's like in terms of
the polar opposites and that they were right next to

(23:51):
each other, and it was so extreme in terms of tone.
I was like, I'm in that. It makes me excited.
I want to see it so bad it does let's
uh says here For fans of Tom King and Bill
Kless Eveley's Superman, Sorry, Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, Gillespie had
an answer for a specific element of that comic book

(24:11):
series he wanted to make sure he got right on
the big screen. It's only a three word answer. Quote
the space bus.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I don't remember. I know the mode of transportation changes
a few times in this book. They like they're they're
kind of on a in like a metro situation here
and there. I mean that's part of the story, right,
how it's it's just it's a travel story.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's a it's a.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Lots of crazy looking aliens inside of this bus, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, it's what happens to them on their various stops
on this journey quite literal journey. It's on the road
with a couple, a couple of superpowered space chicks. But yeah,
they really I'm watching it again, and yeah, they could
easily wanted Like a lot of those guys are basically dressed.
Also like the some of the Guards from Asgard. Oh yeah,

(25:07):
could easily want to write into wherever that is that
Middle Guard kind.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Of area, Yeah, Midguarddard, but you know that's universe. Midguard
is Earth. Yeah, but uh yeah, I think that's funny.
If they had gone the crim route, the real like
the the comic book Krim, he would just look like
uh fucking zach Levi from uh thor Yeah. Maybe that's

(25:32):
why they're like, oh, maybe we don't do that. He's like,
don't see that, don't get fat, Like, oh fuck, get
him out of here, get him out of here, get
him out of here. Vote Trump. Uh, let's see Greg
Lesbi said, this is really an anti hero story. I
think what I loved about the script that Anna wrote
and what you guys were supporting is she's got a

(25:54):
lot of baggage and a lot of demons coming into this,
which is very different than where Superman is in his life.
And having Milly come in and play that all the
complexity of that and do it in a very human
way that gives it, you know, where we can actually
have empathy for her and the dance of the humor
and somebody that has that toughness was It was such
a gift to get because she was obviously already cast

(26:16):
for this, so I was incredibly lucky. She's like an
unapologetic mess and I feel she doesn't want to be
a hero. I really admire that about her as well.
Oh sorry, this is what Milly said. She's an unapologetic mess.
She I feel she doesn't want to be a hero.
I really admire that about her. And I think that
Clark puts on a mask in his everyday life and

(26:37):
Kara won't submit to that. That's an interesting take. Yeah,
and I do like that. I like that. I want
to know why she isn't down with that life. But
then she is also willing to be Supergirl alongside him,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Kind of a different I guess it's a different way
of thinking about how to do good annoy it. Like,
so if she's also saying, you know, he sees the
good in people, he sees lies. I mean seeing the
good in persons or in people isn't isn't truthful? Or
seeing the present always it's seeing what's possible, but it's
a it's a version of events, and you can also
interpret versions of events as lies. So like for her,

(27:18):
she's one of those people that interprets anything other than
what's happening. It's just a well meaning falsity. Yeah, and
not good enough, which is kind of a bummer if
you know, for everyone involved, including that person, most times
you think it's it's anything.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
It's worse for him, but yeah, James Gunn had this
to say, I can't wait for you to get to
know this character and see a DCU movie that's different
from anything we've done so far. From the beginning. This
is a story based medium. We want stories to be
in theaters that are cool and different from each other.
And this movie is not exactly the female clone of Superman.

(27:54):
It is its own thing entirely, and with a character
who is equally worthy of this treatment. And I cannot
wait for you guys to see it. Yeah, and also,
by the way, like Greg Gillespie actually has a pretty
pretty decent filmography. This is the guy did it, Tanya,
he did Cruella. I've seen I've seen grown ass men

(28:16):
arguing that we shouldn't like this because he made Cruilla,
Like are you scared because somebody did a girl movie?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh buddy, I ever saw a Krell. I'm into one point.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
There were two of them, h uh large and the
Real Girl was a great movie, Like the twenty eleven
Fright Night looks dope, dude, I didn't even like fucking
We're talking about Anton Yelchin versus Colin Ferrell, Like still nothing.
Vampire moves in next door to Anton Yelchin and the
vampire is Colin Ferrell, and you know everybody wants to

(28:47):
fuck him, but but he's a vampire.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
It looks cool.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I like, yeah, I'm but then I was looking as
like a remaking know of like an eighty eight movie,
eighty five something like that, and uh, I was like, oh, okay, well,
what's this movie, what's the remake? What's the original starring
Roddy McDowell. Fuck, now, I've got to see that. You know,
there really are.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't think I have seen a damn thing he's ever.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Made that's any money.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It is a list now that I'm looking at it
of stuff that I vaguely heard about or didn't at all.
But like even the stuff that I've heard about, it
was like it Tanya the Corella. That was stuff that
I heard about it thought yeah, and then didn't. Yeah,
just sort of slipped my mind.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I have seen Lars and The Real Girl. I know
about that one that was weird and great.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, nothing nothing, Yeah, I don't know if you read
anything about this guy, I'll be getting introduced to Craig
with this movie. Yeah, that's that's great start.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I do sincerely recommend a very these largs are The
Real Girl because I can it, Tanya, I did want
to watch because it looks really good, and a lot
of looking at clips online since Craig was announced as
this director, I can see a lot of the action
beats in Ititanya, a lot of the a lot of

(30:12):
those hits, and a lot of the comedy they wove
in just through the trailers and clips with what is
that woman's name? Who was on West Wing and Masters
of Sex and so many things. She plays Tanya's crossover.
She plays Tanya's mother in Itanya.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
And I had imbb up.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
But she looks, I mean, just so Alison Janney, Allison Janey.
She's always fucking phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
She is fantastic. Yeah, there's another one here. Oh God,
the United States of Terror. That was good. God, that
was shortly. That was very good. Another one dumb Money brand.
I didn't know about that until a few days ago
and thought, God, I need to watch dumb Money. Haven't
in those I think it's been less than seventy two

(30:59):
hours since I learned dumb Money existed, and it immediately
I need to now I really needed to.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Is that a Craig Gillespie?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, let me see, Well it's on his SIGND and
let me see he's directing or just writing or whatever.
H yep, director, Yeah, okay, Greg Calypsey so this one, yeah, no,
it's it's the right guy. Hey, the uh it's I'm
curious about this one though, because it was the weird
little story. But remember the game stop thing from a

(31:27):
few years ago. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, this is the
Uh it's weirdly I was looking around for a podcast
recap of that because I thought that'd be an easy,
like Planet Money episode or something, and I just wanted
to refresh my memory about the whole saga and couldn't
find a neat little NPR some kind of something to
recap it for me, and then ran across, Oh, dumb money.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
We'll do how to do it? Yet, honestly like it,
Tanya looks like it's not really just a biopic. It
is like sort of scrutinizing all of the ways that
the media came after Tanya Harding for being like white trash.
So you're seeing like things happen like that were reported
to have happened, and as Margot Robbie is doing them,

(32:08):
and like shooting at somebody out the door or something,
blowing pieces of the door away and whatnot, she looks
at the camera and goes, this never happened like stuff
like it looks interesting as fuck, dude, Like, I'm ye gone, I.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Hear things I've never heard from anyone who's actually talked
about our time y. I've never heard anything but ratings.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
And I've heard good things about the Cruella movies, so
you know.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
See, at least that I heard mixed reviews, but only that,
not from anyone who's actually seen it. These all escaped
my orbits, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Uh So, Millie spoiled a cameo m when answering a
question about the toughest scene to film, she detailed a
sequence where she and Corn Sweat had to speak in Kryptonian.
She said, oh my god, it was Well, it was
with Superman and I wasn't in the suit and I
was speaking a different language. Yeah, that day was really hard.

(33:02):
It was like two degrees. He jumped right in the
deep end. Yeah, that was a hard day. The whole
scene was in Kryptonian. Well, why did you finally? That's fine,
that's fine.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't think that one's gonna be a problematic spoiler.
Him not showing up in this movie would be a
foolish Yeah, just just foolish. No, No, he doesn't need
to be there for the all thing come for twenty
seconds in bounds, it's anywhere. Not trying to say it
should be, but it would be kind of foolish not
to have him cross over with the other parts of

(33:39):
the universe as they grow a little bit. I don't
want to make a weird analogy here that shouldn't make sense,
but it kind of does. But it's a little bit
of a planting seeds and a forestry kind of thing, right, Like,
you're trying to lay the groundwork here. You plant plant
seeds everywhere, water the whole plants. I don't know what, I.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Don't know have to say you want You're saying you
want Superman to plant seeds and his cousin.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, exactly that with lots of water, right, very wet, yeah,
moist leather somehow.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, I'm very excited about the Supergirl. I thought the
trailer looked great. I am excited about everything I'm hearing
about it. I don't care that.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Suit does like fucking killer, it does.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
And I don't care if Krim looks like a Ravager
or whatever. Fuck he looks like, Yeah, I think he
looks fine, looks like a lot of so.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Like, twenty five years into this genre, people are gonna
start looking.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Like things also, twenty five Like, I mean, I compared
the Pinhead.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
You know, I know, I mean, like we're in We're
a long way into superhero films now, like we're some
costumes are gonna start looking like some other costumes.

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(35:31):
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(35:58):
the show man, Uh, let's pop over to Lanyard's real quick.
Uh So there was there was there, I would not
fucking mention it. But there are still people saying, look
at this is from the teaser that they showed. Its
fucking Paulo Brazil. No, it's the fuck not is a
picture of like them like uh, Aaron Pierre and other

(36:22):
dude whose name escapes me, Hal and and fucking John
and one of them is like John is blasting a
ring and a ground and then like Hal is sitting
on a couch and looking at it. Gun has already said,
this is Ai. It's not real, y'all. Stop sharing this
ship like it's real. For fuck's sake. They got a

(36:43):
eyed Yeah now, oh this was weeks ago, but the
people keep sharing it now. HBO Max did hold an
upfront event in uh sal Paolo, Brazil and uh, the audience,
I just found. The audience got to see the first
footage and apparently it shows that Hal and John have

(37:07):
been working together for a few months and Jordan is
is filling in for someone else to train John and
we don't know who the person is he's replacing, but
they do mention a squirrel lantern h.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
And that would be yep, yeah, yeah that makes me happy.
So far, so good.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Uh, huh.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
At one point the trailer, Jordan and Stewart are arguing,
with Stuart saying he's better than Jordan at saving people.
Jordan takes flight and sores through the sky. He's still
in his regular clothes, and the footage doesn't show any
green lettern costumes or anything outside of their rings. It
also says there are lots of browns, lots of earth

(37:49):
tones in the sets, and it looks like a Western
that I think is pretty in tune with the first
Look that we saw with the First Look twenty twenty
six trailer for Agent from HBO Max where they're showing
all the new things coming up, and I tell you,

(38:11):
I was pretty excited about the upcoming Larry David bit
his weird American history sketch show. But there's just a
lot of one way to put it, a lot of
him in revolutionary hats and silly mustaches. I don't know,
but yeah, the first Look trailer, all we really got

(38:34):
is like Hal saying, you're not ready to get in
front of the class until the Ring says you are.
He puts the ring on a dashboard in the car
and jumps out as it flies off of a cliff.
That's really most of what we got in that trailer. Uh,
how did how did it find you? Oh?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
It finds me.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Well, it looks cool. I wanted more.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, of course, I mean it's it's it's just not
much at all. It's it's a teaser off a sizzle reel.
Just not nuts to it yet.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, but you know, fixing that. I'll take a drop
of water if I'm a man in hell.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
For sure. But I'll tell you can you find can
you find Aaron Peer's video?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
You know?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I hit that little video where he introduces.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
This, oh right, where he says that it's in this
is coming out at a certain time, and they bleep him.
But I didn't think that I put thought they put
like a thing over his mouth. You said you saw
him say April, and I.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Almost want to watch it again because I think I
messaged you. I was like, yeah, I want to bet
it's this date.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
But Casey Bloyse said that via the Wrap that Lantern's
Wool debut at the end of the summer in twenty
twenty six, so he probably in August he might.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
I think I remember telling you to think that my
like off the cuff bet was gonna be like, no,
I think it's April ten. Let me see if it
was because it was a Friday. Yeah, I think that
was what I decided. Like now I think he's in
April ten. Now, that wouldn't be bad though, because that
would give him a few weeks to air before Supergirl.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, unless like he recorded that before they changed it
to August.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Now, I mean any there's as much
a chance that he actually did say the thing and
they redacted it because you know, he recorded that and
they didn't have time to really bother or whatever. And
there's another good chance that they recorded it was true
at the time, it's just changed since they did that
and you know, redacting it.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Either way, if I was in charge, I would totally
lean into that shit where it would just like you,
it would just obviously cut out and it'd be like
some like I don't know, like white Phil Hartman type
going August tenth, like just really just to bring in
Billy West to do zat Brangen for just a second.

(40:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
It reminds me of keep wanting to go back for
Do you remember that announcement, the announcement from the Couch
where Ryan Reynlds was like, hey, you want to be
in the next movie, and he walks up the stairs
behind him.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Man, they did another one from the couch. There was
a couple of hype videos from the couch and in
one of them like we have the story ready, and
they just sort of mime at each other for like
twenty seconds. I keep I keep meaning to go back
to the video and see if the miaming actually makes
sense in retrospect.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was, as you reminded me
just a second ago. I was like, oh, I wonder
if you can go back and look, you see if
that makes sense?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
All right, I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
But so let's move on to the Man of Tomorrow. Here.
The rap says Brainiac is going to be the villain
of that film. James Gunn has not said anything. He
has not responded to it. He said no, he said yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
He's wingd around a couple of times and said, I'll
see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, well, he's done the.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Thing he would the you know, this this thing with
the eyeballs. For your point, he's done that, I see
you seeing. But he hasn't really done much with that yet.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah. Over on threads the uh. He responded to a
rumor that casting was underway for Steve Trevor in Man
of Tomorrow, he said, nope, God yeah. Speaking with Hollywood
reporter Frank Grill, who confirmed that he will reprise his
role of Rick Flagg Senior in Man of Tomorrow, My

(42:21):
character Rick Flagg Senior is a big part of the
sequel story, So I'm excited about it. Uh so we've
got that, I thought. I think that's pretty obvious.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, his current role in this universe, he either needs
to be dethroned, killed whatever, dismantled in some way, or
he is going to be there until something happens. Yeah,
a huge player right now.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Here was a weird one. During a recent interview with
GQ magazine, Pierce Brosden shared a curious rumor, says, I've
heard that Doctor Fate was going to have his own
show or his own movie. I've heard that he's going
to be in the next Superman. When asked if he
would like to return to Doctor Fate, Brosden said, I
enjoyed that the philosophy of that character very much, and
I would definitely be open to it. Yeah, that's not
doubt it'll be him, but sure.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why they'd pull that one
back in. There was a small period where they were
going to keep some stuff from that from Black Adam
even maybe, but even that might have been a rumor
in retrospect.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, Okay, we got a little bit of a scope here.
Old Daniel RpK is saying that Man of Tomorrow is
currently in the process of casting an actress in her
twenties for a significant role. Further reports from Nexus Point News,
I haven't heard them from them in a while elaborate

(43:36):
on this specify the production of seeking taller actresses for
a character described as a quote unquote warrior with a
quote unquote strong physique and then quote unquote edge the
combination of age and physical requirements. To just DC Studios
is casting for a major heroic role intended to be
a cornerstone for the DCU for years to come. Everybody went,

(43:57):
wonder woman, now me, I mean, maybe I'm wrong. I
was like, are you sure it was Man up Tomorrow
and not somebody trying to cast big barter for miracle Man? Right?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah, there are other practical things this could be. Plenty
of other joke cancers I mean, yeah, Manhunter. Yeah, could
be a thousand other random characters.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
But well it is a woman.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, well, I mean there's a man Hunter. Like, there's
a man Hunter character. I forget where she's.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
From about Magon.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
She's Checkmate. Yeah yeah. Not not an actual like Martian Manhunter,
another kind of Man Hunter style. It's like a style
of assassin called Manhunter Checkmate series. Not an actual Martian thing.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
You're talking about Martians, not that one on the fucking
Martians for man. No.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I'm trying to remember where we have seen this other
than Checkmate or what even an actual real name is
of one of these characters, and can't blinking on it.
All I remember is I'm got something.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Out of that. I remember Sasha Bordeaux or whatever her
name was, but they've already got her.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, true, Yeah, it could be. It could be
plenty things, and definitely could also for sure be a
bit better. Big bart wonder woman also doesn't have to
be tall. That does not necessarily have to be a
trait that's on that sheet of.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Paper, does you, doesn't have to be but doesn't hurt.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Doesn't hurt. But one of the things I constantly point
out about Wonder Woman is she's uh because man, she
gets over identified to fucking back. Is like, she's got
to be She's got to look strong, not too strong.
She's gotta look tall, not too tall.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, the wonder The problem with casting Wonder Woman and
is the problem that all women face, no matter what
people shot on them.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
You're not yeah, it's too much at the same time, and.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
You're not tall enough, you're not short enough, you're not
petite enough, you're not masculine like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
And one woman is gonna get it worse than a
lot because she's a big archetype character. Right, but she
has one of my favorite outs is she shouldn't have
to look like a goddamn thing. They lined the gods
lined up and gifted her all these things. She's magic.
She doesn't have to look like she has muscles. She
just is strong. It's fine. I have an explanation here.

(46:26):
We're good. Yeah, she can just be pretty and that
would be And we don't have to also look like
an olympian and even worry about if she looks too
strong and all this and calm down doesn't have to
be so much on the casting sheet.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I don't think yeah, I know, I don't know, like
I I mean, if it was up to me, there'd
be some I mean, she'd look like a fucking tall
Amazon woman. You know, i'd give her, let her have
a little bit of muscle. But the important thing, much
like with Superman, in my head, if she's wearing a suit,

(46:58):
you're not gonna see all those fucking muss That's the
important thing, right, Like you're just look up, you're you're
fucking dying to princes, You're hanging out in a fucking
art gallery or whatever you're doing. Uh you're fine.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Uh expensive bast dress.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah you're not. You know, you're not wonder a woman.
It's uh, you're just a regular lady. You look pretty good, Uh,
normal lady.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
It's it's one of the Hollywood parts. She's got to
be able to do both though. She's gotta look good,
you know, ready to go to work, and then you know,
somehow are you able to put on some bracelets and
kick ass at the same time.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
But none of that's important. It's like, if she's like
got the quality, she can, like I'm not talking about tits,
I'm talking about them. She can fucking play the role
and make make you believe that this woman is like
here to like save the fucking earth and save all mankind,
but also could kill you, just kill you with a

(47:54):
you know, just a quick click at the wrist. Yeah,
flick of the wrist. That's what I was looking for. Yeah, yeah,
I think there's there's so much like you know that
Linda Carter had, for instance, even the gal had to
some degree.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Uh oh yeah, plenty plenty. I think there are definitely there.
It ranges. I just think there's more play to it
than some people give. I wouldn't cast you know, Ariana
Grande myself either a little too a little too in
need of a couple of calories for my my liking

(48:27):
to look like she's gonna not maybe fall under the
weight of even the armor of those bracelets. She sometimes
worries me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Just uh, I ain't worried about her. She got whatever
she got coming to her.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
There's probably plenty of plenty of whatever. Yeah, But every
time I see her, I just want to be like, man,
I can I just give you a biscuit or something,
get you get your meal?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
You see that ged you the picture of some would
photoshops Cynthia from the wicked, looking angry and staring in
a window, and it said Cynthia making sure Arianna is
not eating. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Did you catch the footage of her bodyguarding?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
It was? Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
The the unavoidable AI summary of that was Cynthia kind
I can't.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Remember last maybe there, I'm sorry, a revo or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, yeah, praised for bodyguarding skills. Was the first time
I saw that, as like the the AI generated summary
of the what was happening?

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Right then?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
What are you talking about? And clicked what's happening?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Good? Lord?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Yeah, that guy got permanently deported I think from uh Singapore. Yeah,
he was. He was sent away and told he would
go to prisoner if he's ever seen there again. Lord,
they looked like a jackass.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
All right, all right, Hey, this is Dave popping in
from December fifteenth, the day this is dropping, and I
think it was yesterday, but Dave Bautista was being reported
as the top choice to play Brainiac in Man of Tomorrow.
And this is what James Gunn has to say about it.

(50:21):
Oh boy, let's forget a moment. I've never said Brainiac
was in the movie. I freaking love Dave Bautista and
have many ideas for who he could play in the DCU,
but he and I have never discussed a role in
Man of Tomorrow, nor have we discussed it amongst ourselves
at dc In addition, truly none of the names from

(50:44):
the six or seven I've seen rumored for a role
have auditioned or been discussed at all. In general, I'm
just letting the silly rumors go, and this is certainly
not the silliest I've heard recently. But Dave is a
friend and that makes it more irritating. By the way,
I'm not blaming the poster here, and I imagine this

(51:05):
is coming from other places. So just to let you
guys know, and it's true, he's never said Brainiac is
the villain, and we now have confirmation that it definitely
isn't Dave Bautista or Matt Smith or any of the
other people being rumored. Let's hop over to Batman Part two.

(51:25):
If you're good, You're good, Variety says, no Zoe in
The Batman Part two? Now Yeah. According to a Variety,
Zoe Kravitz not expected to return as a Catwoman slash
Selena Kyle for The Batman Part two report sites and
sources with knowledge of the film's production, but does not
offer any additional clarification. We reported on this September episode

(51:52):
seven sixty eight. If you want to go back, there
were already rumors that were pretty substantial Zoe was not
going to be in Batman Part two. Uh, we've got
some pretty and this also started from Nexus Point News.
But it's a lot of people are really reporting this

(52:13):
that scar Joe is in talks so be in Batman
Part two.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, and heard that legitimately thrown about.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Apparently it's a role that uh Emma Stone turned walked
away from. Yeah, and I'm here and now I'm hearing
like and it pissed me off because I did mention
it to you the other day. And then fucking like
two or three days later, I started seeing it on
the internet. I was like, holy shit, it looks like

(52:44):
the rumor mill says that scar jow is playing uh
Missus Dent. Missus Dent is what you've heard Harvey's wife
aka the Holiday Killer. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yeah, Okay, I forgot about that part of the equation. Yeah,
I don't think i'd mind that. That would be a
lot more interesting. The rumor i'd scene was love interest
to Bruce, I thought that'd be incredibly boring.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Use yeah, of anyone.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I think it just sounds like a boring role in
this universe.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
That's what i'd heard. I'd heard. Initially, i'd heard love
interest turn villain. But then I have sources that were
telling me, like, look, everybody's saying so i'd be Andrea
from Mask of the Phantasm. It is not the fuck her. Yeah,
And now my sources are saying like, okay, so it's
it is a villain character, but it didn't say for

(53:34):
who specifically on the love interest. And you know, if
we're talking about Brad Pitt showing up but he's dropped
out supposedly, I don't know. I don't We don't have
absolute confirmation on any of this, but.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Dad, that all sounds way too rumor Millie.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
To it does it does? But you know what, like
my sources, when I'm willing to say I have a source,
it's usually like I've seen these people be right too much.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I'll assure you.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, So I don't know. I guess we'll see. I
don't want to say absolutely anything, but uh, you know,
I think it's at least a pretty good chance that
Scarjow will be playing Gilda Dent.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I think that would be a great use of her
and the role I'd be. Yeah, I'm way more interested in.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
That.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
That would be a lot more fun than some of
the stuff I've heard so far. I'm so far that's
my favorite possible version of events.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
M h.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I don't know why. I mean, well, okay, so if
I don't know why Emma would have would have been
involved in walk Away necessarily, there's not like going to
be a good, you know, weird reason for it. It
sounds like the kind of thing she did Crew Well,
we just talked about that.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
M h.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Oh, you would kind that she would be okay with
or good for. But yeah, what if it's gonna work out? Sometimes?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
What if the the scoopers are just going like, oh, well,
she's gonna be Harvey's wife or fiance or something. Uh,
what if that must be gilded in? What if they
go the opposite way? What if he goes like fucking
makes her grace from fucking Batman the animated series or
you know, in the comics they did a Batman black

(55:17):
and white issue where Pauldini wrote I think it was
Pauldini and I was Bruce tim drawing it. But it
was like Harvey had a fiance or a wife and
then she had an evil twin sister who seduced him
and helped bring out fucking big bad Harvard and ship Dud.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
They can do so many things, they could be dark. Yeah, yeah,
but yeah, that was that was dope too. Anyway, it
doesn't have to be Guilda.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
But that's my favorite so far. Yeah, I still don't really,
you know, I actually that may be the most I've
been interested so far in the Batman two is is
that character being introduced? I think I make care more
now than A have before.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, And I like Zoe crab it's a whole lot.
I liked her Selena, but the way they left, the
way she left the first movie she left Gotham. If
she shows up right right away in the second movie,
I'm like, Oh, that doesn't mean anything then, does it. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
I know, like, I know, she's a she's she was
a fond takeaway from the movie. But you're right, it's
it's kind of written into a bit of a hole.
That'd be it would cheapen some stuff. She was fine,
I would take her away, but yeah, yeah, but like
she I'd like to see her again too, and it
it makes it worse with the how things go in

(56:43):
Penguin mm hmm. Kind of wanting more of.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Of of both of them. But yeah, we don't.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You're right, it would cheapen it to have it right now.
There should be a gap. I hadn't thought about that.
I initially, I have been kind of surprised that it
that we were gonna skip her because it seemed like,
you know, it's in a few years. Let's just get
the old cast and crew back together and call it
and you know, move on. But like I keep complaining about,
it's gonna be like seven years between movies right now,
I don't know if it's gonna matter entirely like what

(57:10):
she did right then.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Well I say that, let me go in second guess myself.
It will probably matter because we're gonna have to watch
this new movie again before we see the next one
I have. I don't remember what happened at all. Yeah,
I think that man had a flare gun.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I think he was holding a flair at some point. Yeah.
Leading people out there was like Batman becoming an instrument
of hope instead of an instrument of fear right, Yeah,
it's kind of that whole thing.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, that was a nice bit. That weak ass actor
Paul Dano did some some stuff on the screen that
I guess was okay. Yeah, yeah, fuck him, even though
it's completely discredited as a performer.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
But you know what, just recently, Matt Reeves confirmed that
there was a Penguin two Penguin season two talks.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
So yeah, yeah, in fact, just do Penguin season two,
but just let Melotty have the entire show.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I mean, I take that. I would let her have
the focus for a whole.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Season, and you know, maybe we bounce back in twenty
twenty nine or whatever, the Colin Farrell or something. We
can play with the structure. Also, again, she fucking killed
over there. Didn't she actually win for whatever that was?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I mean kind of I think she won something. Oh
you mean like an award in real life? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I don't know about all that. I was like, I mean,
she like fucking was back in prison, I think, but
she wasn't. Like I mean, she did kind of win,
she like killed her whole family. Oh yeah, like an award? Fuck?
Oh yeah, like an award? Award?

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah, yeah, she probably did.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Okay, probably.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
She Emmy. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a thing that
we care about. Probably Emmy's.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yeah, probably I don't, but but you know, I'm sure
people do.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
If you've got to care about him. That's one that's
on the list that I firmly sided with you that
they should all be not not not care about in general.
But yeah, but she did. Okay, what's the point.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Definitely not used, uh to weaponize your subjective point of
view on the internet. Yeah, so I don't know. Uh,
my source, by the way, did say that, you know,
Scar Joe was not playing Silver Saint Cloud, which that
was my first guest and my second guest was Vicky Vale.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
They said, no, lovely, lovely, there were there were there
were a series of guesses, and he was cracking up
because those were his same guesses too.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
That was like in order, like son of a Bitch. Yeah,
all right, let's let's pop over to mister Miracle here.
Uh Comic Geek Speak podcast was talking to uh Tom King.
He says he's in the final app of a h
huge writing marathon for Mister Miracle. He's writing every episode
and working as showrunner with all of the responsibilities that

(01:00:06):
come with that. They're currently casting and designing the series.
King says the adaptation process has actually revealed a continuity
error that no one has ever caught in the book.
He says, it's very weird to go back to Mister Miracle,
which I wrote almost ten years ago, and try to
both be in that headspace, because boy, I was in
a weird, panicky headspace when I wrote that thing, and

(01:00:28):
try to see what works in it, which is most
of it, it's very good, but you know what doesn't work.
There's some parts in it that don't work. An editor
found just today a mistake, like a little no prize mistake.
I was trying to explain to them. They're like, there's
a logic flaw between two scenes where they don't make sense.
And I was like, oh my god, ten years of
people reading this and no one noticed. And then I

(01:00:51):
was like, to some Hollywood guy, you just want a
no prize and he's like, the fuck is wrong with you.
King went on to reveal that he had to explain
the entire concept of a no prize to this person.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I would explain to me as well, so awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I knew exactly I squealed when I read it. I
squealed when I read this because I know exactly what
a NO Prize is. King went on to reveal that
he had to explain the entire concept. This was where
stan Lee would send them to fans who pointed out
inaccuracies and continuity errors in Marvel comics. He added, they're like, wait,

(01:01:28):
so he just sent empty envelopes and people desired this,
And I was like, you don't understand. When I was
a kid, it's all I wanted to win. But seriously,
that was the thing. It is like people would, you know,
write in to stan Lee and be like you fucked
this up, and stan Lee would be like, hey, you

(01:01:48):
got me. You get a NO Prize and like you
would get like an envelope that would be like say
like Marvel, you know, authentic no Prize and like n
O Prize and you like open it and there's just
nothing in the envelope.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, oh that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
God, I don't want to read it again now. Yeah,
and see what the break was?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah, yeah, let's talk about the DCU Batman. Gun revealed
three things the new dc U Batman will have and
what fans think they want. I liked that headline that
I saw right, I didn't write it. I don't think
I did. Now I'm questioning myself. I did some of

(01:02:34):
the I prepped some of these in a while ago.
This was over on Threads though. A DC fan was
talking to Gun about how all the fans really want
to see the white eyes of the character's mask in
live action, and Gun says the most requested thing would
be the blue and gray, then the yellow around the bat,

(01:02:58):
and then the eyes. But all of those things I
find less important than the character himself, the writing, and
the person who plays him. Individuals are making clear what
they want to see. But even the most requested thing,
the blue and gray, is split evenly with people who
don't want that, and the other two most requested things

(01:03:19):
are also things just as many people say they don't
want to see. So you have to do what's write
by the specific film and story. The Also, Gun went
on a diatribe that I didn't call chart. I would
love to see, oh, I would love to know exactly
I want the white eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I do want the white eyes. I have no interest whatsoever,
one way or the other around that the yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Do with it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
What you will in that area.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
The white eyes would be fantastic. I would definitely root
for those. I love love blue in any version of
his uniform, so would be deeply happy with that. Like
there's verse some of the things I would definitely vote for,
but I would love to see the charter of who
voted for what That whole vendiagram would be. You know,
who wants to see blue and gray? Who wants to see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Well, you know the way I would handle it, and
I I feel like I mentioned this on Reddit and
got down voted to filth.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
But the way I would handle it you were straight red, Yeah,
is I would do like the black and gray, white
eyes at night, blue and gray in the daytime, with
the white eyes the yellow oval.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I would probably put in to both versions because we
haven't seen that in a while in live action.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
We haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
But I feel like I can.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
I feel like it if you want. I just can't
find myself caring about it. I tried just then and
I came up short.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah. I mean, you know, I think I like the
idea that he's got a target on his chest that
people will shoot at so they won't shoot him in
the face.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
But also line and throw it in anywhere, and I'll
be happy with that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
But also I would change it to where, uh, you
know how like Batman artists will draw him sometimes they'll
do sort of an impressionistic thing where like I think
that's what it is, where like they'll have like you
won't see his mouth, you won't see his like the
face piece. It's just like a Batman silhouette. You just
see the eyes and like black you know. Hm, I

(01:05:23):
would just do it to where I mean, he's got
like he's fucking billionaire, he's just he's just got like
the the Iron Man thing where it's just like it
grafts over his face at certain times so the criminals
can't see him. If he's talking to Gordon, he doesn't
give a fuck. But if he's like fighting a bad
guy in a in a you know, you have a
little nanobyte thing go over his mask. Yeah, little nano

(01:05:45):
veil go over him and uh, you know, nice little
like foreshadowing for Batman beyond later on as well, But
then you get more comic accurate shots but also within
the live actions sphere, if that makes any sense. Mm hmm.
I've definitely got I've got fucking Batman thoughts. Okay, like

(01:06:05):
I think about this ship way too much. You do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
You do really love costume design, man, And the only
thing I might even have invested in the yellow on
the chest is like it feels.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
A bit keatingey, but yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
But that can be just fine. I don't think that's
a problem if it is there. And like I was
arguing before, even if it is a nod, that's intentional.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, and so what here's the other thing, And this
is my another part of my sickness is the more
the more costumes you have in the movie, the more
fucking action figures you get to make. Mm hm, yess
what you know? You got the veil, the fail thing
going on, the little nano veil. Yeah, separate head, separate

(01:06:48):
head for the action figure off but on the other Yeah.
But and for the real dieheard collectors, you know that
means you're gonna you're gonna sell two of them because
they're gonna want to display one with the normal face
and one with the fail.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
I mean, it's two heads, or you can make it
a little magnet wrap around that just sort of dude,
that would be cool too, you know, magnets in the
back of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
But yeah, it's easy to lose.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
I do replacements are worth the entire half the cost
of the entire toy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Yeah, oh no, you're going to eBay. They are more
than the toy. Yeah yeah, I mean importantly. I just
I love Batman, and I would as a filmmaker. I
don't think I would be able to choose because I
love Batman. I just love I love him, and as
blue and gray, I love him, and as black and gray,
I love them, and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
All black, mate. Like this is why sometimes deadlines are
are important, just just like just so you could be
given a reasonable amount of time and be like, yep,
all right, it's cool by like January fourteenth. That's that's
when you got to know what the final design is. Yeah,
you can do that over the next six weeks or

(01:07:52):
in the last six hours you're color.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Well look that's you know, a lot of fans will
be like a bitch about like, oh man, it's going
to be like the Shoemaker films. He starts off with
one thing and then by the climax that he's in
another suit to sell toys, and I'm like, I want
to see multiple suits. Yeah, like you're I'm gonna get
a Batman movie every like two to three years, fucking
show me the suits Man. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I think there's a spot in kind of pre
production where if any of us got the chants and
resources and to dream away and just get lost in
our own devices, we we could just never make something
because we would tinker to death.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
I think I think costume might be what gets you, Like,
I think I might get I might get lost like
setting up the setting up the score maybe, or just
in the writing in general, just working at the structure.
That might be where I just never I might I
might negat, never make off the whiteboard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah, I'm just saying like blue and gray for the day,
because you know, he's got to go out in the
day sometimes and he's gonna you know, if he's on
a rooftop in the day, he'll blend in more with
a blue and gray if he has to go out, Yeah,
it'll be kind of like the signal, you know. But
if he's if it's a night, fuck man full black
and gray, and they're like, hey, they can even you

(01:09:05):
can even have like a fucking bit in there where
they're like you know, hey, you know you can't uh
do like a proper cloak. He's like, oh, I'm working
on it, you know, just like really foreshadowing some Batman beyond.
Like but like I do, I like as much as
I see, Like, I love fucking Iron Man. I love
all of his suits. I like have always like every
movie that came out. I was just envious of all

(01:09:27):
the fucking the action figures with all the like the
Mock seven, the Mock eight, and you know, I just
like go on and on. And it's the same thing
with Batman. I've got so many Batman in my fucking
h office here. Yeah, behind you right now, there's like
five behind me right now. And that's just like that.
There's like the very teeny tippy tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I've got the camera zoomed in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
My god, they're about I just love Batman. I love
all of his outfits, and uh, I would love to
see as much as I can that scene in the Flash.
For as much as I just liked that movie, that
scene in the Flash, with all the Batman suits, I'll
forever be grateful to them for that bit of porn. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, yeah, there's everything everything cuter dreamed of there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
It really kind of was, so all right, let's uh,
let's move on to some d CT.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
That wasn't a good My can's almost empty, so this
is mine. It didn't work at all. Yep, yep, yeah, complete, terrible,
terrible sects.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Okay, okay, all right, So keep in mind I wrote
this days and days and days ago. I believe I
just uh I titled this Netflix and Warner Brothers just
defined the relationship. Oh yeah, yeah, all right. So oh look, man,

(01:11:01):
they've got like twelve to eighteen months of regulatory hoops
to go through. We don't know if it's going to happen,
especially since slave fucking David Ellison is trying to push
through this hostile takeover. It'll be a while before we
know exactly what else going down. They've got to do
a review for the record. Given the choices, I hope
Netflix because they're going to sell it to somebody. And

(01:11:23):
I fucking hate Paramount, and I wish that David Ellison
has Guy Danced didn't own Star Trek, and I don't
want them to own fucking DC.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Yeah you don't want this repeating over here. I would
take the grabby little hands off of it, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I would take shorter, gladly take shorter Windows, release Windows
for streaming versus all of our content being strictly MAGA
bullshit because of David Ellison. So that's where we're standing
on that. It's not a very interesting take, I guess,

(01:11:58):
but I've found more and more people in our corner.
You and I agree with each other.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I have gone on for hours
about this merger and could, but it's mostly it's mostly
confined there for the moment. Yeah, that it's it's a
long story short for our purposes, there doesn't. I mean,
it would be nice if things kind of stayed like
they are, but that isn't that's not part of the

(01:12:24):
reality of the situation. We're we're gonna go down a
couple of roads, and for for the purposes of just
DC Studios. Right now, Netflix seems like it might be
the best landing spot. Good argument could have been made
for Comcast, but they just didn't have the Yeah they juice, Yeah,
didn't have to just stay in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Do you want to talk for the turn? Do you
want to talk about the the email you got?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Yeah, so that well, they'll just where they are on
the process at least now is I got an email
this morning from Warner Brothers. I have one share and
it's just so I can get emails like this. So yeah,
the email came this morning from that is the formal
offer from Paramount, Skuidance and all that. It it just yeah,

(01:13:12):
ex utly, it's it's for thirty bucks. It's it's everything
you've read about so far, So it's it's it's in
there for thirty dollars a share. It's it's up to
the vault. The way this works is it's up to
the shareholders. If enough of them elect yes out of that,
then it goes to the shareholder vote and they are
able to take over the company, and then the hostel
takeover is successful. If the votes no, I'm pretty sure

(01:13:34):
the shareholders are just voting no, and I don't know if.
I don't think Paramount can do much after that other
than maybe offer again if they really want to. But
the other problem is they're going to owe Netflix. I
think it's five point one billion dollars. I want to
say right now is the bailout money. They are far
enough in the pro enough ink has been signed right

(01:13:55):
now that it will cost them I want to say,
five point one billion dollars to back out of the
current deal, so they don't want to add that fine
on top of anything. It's it's so far it's not
in the best interest that if they can do it hostily, that's,
you know, okay, great, I guess it'll it'll be what
it is, But right now it doesn't. I have no

(01:14:17):
reason to think this takeovers going to work. I don't
think this series of emails this weekend is going to
come back with an election from Chaerhalers to take the thirty.
I mean, the current price of that stock when I
looked Friday was like twenty eight and a half it
had gone up to I think, no, it's like twenty
nine and something, and it had gone up from twenty
seven to twenty. They're not thirty. Isn't some huge value
increase that's just going to be, oh my fuck, I'll

(01:14:38):
take the money right now. It's I don't think it
has that kind of overage. And you can make a
ridiculously good case that they are deeply overvaluing the thing
to be buying it at thirty the way they're trying
to buy it, because they're not just trying to buy,
you know, the part that the parts that we're worried
about most immediately, or DC Studios, but there's also other

(01:14:58):
networks and they're trying to buy that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
The way they have it valued, it's it's stupid. They're
kind of overvaluing parts indervaluing others. It it makes it
makes the math funky. If you look at it another way,
it looks like Netflix is actually offering more than the
thirty dollars that they're doing, because they're they're asking for
less in return for the twenty eight and a half.
I think it is that Netflix has in the deal,

(01:15:21):
so it's not it's not that, you know, a dollar
and a half more is not, you know, killer for
the average person. I don't think, But yeah, I don't.
It just doesn't look like it's going to be a
successful bit for this takeover.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah right now.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
If I'm a betting man and I'm not, I have,
like I said, I do not have stock options or
playing this whatsoever. I literally have one, and it's just
so I can see shit like this, just so I
get alerts about when things go up and down. If
I'm a betting man, though, what I would What it
looks like right now is that everything currently is in
favor of Netflix's deal going through. Kind of as it stands,

(01:15:58):
they came to a mark, both sides are on board.
It looks like Paramount will probably fail at it. They'll
probably try some other crazy tricks that I don't even
know about yet, because for them, this really isn't like
a money thing. This is this is more of a
this is a power move, not a money move for
for them in a lot of ways. There's a there's
a money move being had in a lot of ways too,

(01:16:18):
but it's also and and they're trying to make them
monopolay out of certain sports aspects of what they're doing too,
but so they're not acting out of the same principles.
But yeah, right now, looks like Netflix probably hold and
that would be all you kind of need to worry
about as far as whether it goes and then you'll
have well, it'll it'll take us a while to see
if Netflix can close this deal. That should drag on

(01:16:42):
for about an hour or about a year and a
half or so on average.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Yeah, And you know, right now, the current state DC
state is you know, as it is like it's untouched,
Supergirl will come out in theaters, Clay Face, Batman Part two,
Manam Tomorrow, Like that should be set pretty in stone
at this point. And yeah, you know, look the people

(01:17:07):
in charge of Netflix, Sorrandos and whatnot, like he yeah, he,
Well they're going to be changing anybody. Any of these
people are going to be changing what happens to release
windows for streaming after the theatrical releases, because that's just
the way things are going.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Everyone's trying to figure it out and shift and you know,
undulate and figure out the best the best way to
move their money around and showcase their product.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I will definitely take it over the sky Dance ship.
David Ellison is already, according to some of my sources,
has already been talking to Zach Kraiger, the writer director
of Weapons, about trying to get him promising him his
fucking Henchman DC movie Behind Guns Back, Like they want

(01:17:59):
to fucking get rid of gun that parent That won't
surprise me, So.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
What will what will shock me about if it does?
If it for some reason goes to Paramount, it will
shock me for a lot of Like the the idea
that they want to interfere is silly. That's that's a
facile argument. That's that's dumb. They are buying it to interfere.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
That is their goal, that is the reason.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
And the deal that Saffron and Gunn have over there
is such a fucking sweetheart deal, Like I don't I
don't know if we'll ever get that. We won't probably
get this again, realistically we might get something like it.
But what we have right now at d c C
and that's that's a even if you're not just worried
about the general state of mergers and all that, which

(01:18:44):
are wonderful concerns to have, or the general state of
theaters again, all wonderful concerns to have. If you're just
looking at DC Studios, the deal we have in place
right now is fucking phenomenal. You wouldn't want anything to
happen to that. So anything that's on the horizon that
might is you should and I mean you should be scared.

(01:19:06):
But right now, for my money, again, Comcasts didn't have
the money to stay in the game. They folded around
the turn that like they just don't have it. They
would I think they would have been a fine place
for ITTSI Land, But we don't have that paramount, doesn't
want it to not change it though it will go,
they will immediately get rid of something like this kind
of sweetheart deal with all this autonomy. They will immediately

(01:19:27):
see that as a stranger and needs to go. It's
not what they're in this game for. They don't have
any I don't think there's any instinct and whatsoever to
just sort of let creatives do their thing. And there's
a lot like there are plenty of I mean, there's
obviously people who are objecting to the entire process of
the sale. And in spirit, I'm with you. And if
I wish, if if there was a way that we

(01:19:48):
could just stop the sale altogether, if I thought that
was a realistic way of going about things, I would
vote for ross Perot too. But like, I don't think
that is in this situation. I think that's that's a
dreamer mentality right now. I don't think there's any version
of events where that's gets stopped, not with Trump in office,
not with things the way they stand, things getting sold.

(01:20:08):
It was getting sold when Zaslov got hired. Yeah, but
three years ago, five three.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Ago, and you know, I've seen I saw someone, I've
seen a few people, you know, say something to the
effect of, like, you know, when when did this? When
was Warner Brothers over? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Was it was?

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
It? Everyone wants to fucking like talk about Time Warner, AOL,
Time Warner and when AOL bought Warner Brothers, and that
was the end of that was the true end of
Warner Brothers. I've seen the argument pop up a few times, like, motherfucker,
it was in like sixty nine when the fucking park,
parking lot and funeral home business bought them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Yeah, that's that's kind of when I want to do it,
like it's a business man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
It's always been a business. It's always been business first,
art second.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Yeah, and it's been that way for decades. I mean,
the the show that scooped up all the awards this
year was The Studio because it made fun of that process.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
We know what this is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
This isn't a surprise, I don't think. But a lot
of my anger about you know, people fussing about this
one in particular, is we're not This isn't where we're
gonna win that argument. Like, all all we're gonna do
is create enough fuss to somehow negate the sale that
could go through to Netflix, So we're gonna I'm worried
that we would fuck up a good well, not a
good landing spot. Not there are no good places right now,

(01:21:26):
but the best of the evils here. It's of the
places that we could land right now. It's our best shot.
I wouldn't I don't. I don't want to. I don't
want to fuck that up with honestly, just objecting so
fucking much that they're able to use that as part
of the reason to deny the actual cell because at
this point it does still have to go through the DOJ,

(01:21:49):
and public sentiment may play into that, like it played
into the old fucking MSN Internet explore thing like these
are windows, thing like these are Public sentiment plays into
this kind of thing. I it couldn't matter enough for
our DOJ, who's doing whatever the hell they feel like it,
to use it against us. There's a lot of things

(01:22:10):
that could go wrong here. And by the way, like
one of the things people are concerned with is, yeah,
this is going to be over twenty twenty six, and frankly,
Paramountain sky Dance is you know they're getting into this
for political reasons. So you know, one of the reasons
that people are interested is what could happen in twenty
twenty six with some elections. So yeah, like a valid concern.
If there's a way to pull the plug in the

(01:22:31):
whole thing. I think it's a great idea and I
would love to get in on that, but I don't
think it's possible right now. I think we're going somewhere, yeah,
and probably in the short term, because again Paramount wants
to they want to get their hands on the news networks.
That's part of the goal here for them, I mean,
not Pount. Paramount Studios as it stands, is just trying
to make movies.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Sky Dance really is a strange play because you know,
network and cables going away, because these these networks are
fucking dying anyway, well they are, but dying as fast
as their audience is dying, which isn't fast enough for me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
But in some ways, yeah, but it's still there's still
this kind of divide where you can get your hands
on media and in a couple of ways. But it frankly,
it's still costs more to cut courts, it still costs
more to buy the internet and then buy all the
streaming services attached to the Internet. It still costs less
to just get cable if you're like, there's I think

(01:23:28):
there's still just an ses divide here on who's watching
what m hm. So you're gonna have a giant broadcast
systems kind of not getting enough checks and balances to
get them into better who deeply in charge of these
systems where they're you know, going out to a huge
amount of people that don't make as much money as
everybody else, Like they're doing that on purpose. It's a

(01:23:50):
it's a weird system. But I like, I hate that
we're caught up in all that. But we kind of
are right now, yep, which is why we're sitting You're
talking about a bunch of politics on on DCN screen
because we are I accidentally caught up in that right now.
Otherwise we mostly leave it alone. But this one's kind
of this one, it kind of came calling, like as
it stands, Yeah, we still kind of need Netflix, like

(01:24:11):
to get DC Studios out of trouble for like, for
our purposes, we kind of need to be Netflix if
we're being real. That still leaves some other stuff about
the news and all that. You know, Hey, that's twenty
twenty six, is we're going to see how long the
cell goes. They'll have to spin off those other companies,
so there's a chance somebody can still get them. There's
luck that could still happen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
And by the way, Netflix has literally canceled every fucking
Zack Snyder project he had going on over there. Being
sold to Netflix does not mean they're bringing back the
Snyder Verse. They will continue to pretend they never knew Zach.

(01:24:51):
I mean, I hate to say it that way. I
would love to look, man, I love what I fucking
love what Gun is doing. I of course want to
see the other Zack Snyder movies that he wanted to make,
but we're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
No, if we do, there has to be a lot
more time. If we're ever going to do it, I
don't know that it'll ever happen because so much time
has to pass that I don't know who would care
to come back at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I can't imagine though, anyone still listening to our show
is going to be one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Not necessarily no, that truly believes this is the savior
of the Snyder Verse. Now, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Yeah, yeah, or just Snyderbots in general.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Yeah, and we we lost most of the Snyderbot listeners
by now too, I would hope.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
By the way, according to Bloomberg, you know Gun and Saffron,
their contracts have been extended through spring of twenty twenty seven,
so they were originally it was they were signed through
twenty twenty six, I think probably October of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Yeah, and they're coming up right now on the end
of year three, and they had a four year contract,
so they've got one they've been They've got two years
now instead of one year left on their contract. Is
what we just told him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
So that's neat a gun say. I was talking about
the future of the DCU after Netflix, and he says,
the communal theatrical experience is something that is incredibly important
and remarkably well suited to our big spectacle films, And
this is what Gunn told Bloomberg. David Zaslav is also

(01:26:23):
saying this. He says, the dc universe is big enough
and strong enough that it should be available on all platforms.
And there are some stories that are important to be
told in theaters around the world, and some stories that
are important to be told as series. So like, I'm
not seeing anything Sarandos is saying there's some troubling things
where he's sort of assuring. He's like, look, I know

(01:26:44):
Ellison is close with Trump, but I also am friendly
with him, So I don't think that this is necessarily
a problem. So I you know, I don't think any
of these guys, I'm not sitting around going like, ah,
this guy's a liberal and this guy's a conservative and blotted.
I think they're all people at at heart, and they're
all gonna cozy up to the fucking president if it

(01:27:05):
means they get what they want. Let's not you know,
and have we're mince words here on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
This time last week, it's Saturday. Yeah, seven or eight
days ago. Sorrantos went to the White House to help
make sure this deal went through. Yeah, but that's his
job in this case, to go smooth things over.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
They have Netflix come to realize, you know, like the
Stranger Things finale is getting five hundred theater releases on
New Year's Eve, like they have they had that That
sounds cool? Yeah, they I don't know. Look up Kate
Pop Demon Hunters blew up so big they put a
theatrical singalong version.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
The went to that she had a fucking great time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Yeah. So, uh, they are buying Warner Brothers not just
for the IP, they are buying Warner Brothers for the
global distribution machine. This is something Netflix has never had.
They've never been able to say like, oh, well, we're
gonna fucking do this. They've never had the infrastructure. They've
never been able to do it before. I don't think

(01:28:07):
that they're not gonna kill theatrical because they're going to
start utilizing it for as much as they can.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
I was in my head it's a case of, like,
none of the critiques are wrong. I do think the
game changes though, like that that's no longer that is
no longer the enemy they were yesterday. And I you know,
from my money, I don't think Netflix is capable of
killing theaters any more quickly than we, the audience, or

(01:28:38):
the movie studios themselves were already killing theaters. Yeah, like
you're half of the fucking price of those theater tickets
and more in a lot of cases was the actual
rights to distribution for the movie itself, Like and it
got into the there's an escalation arms race almost of
how much these fucking movies cost. And it seems to

(01:28:59):
be they hit the wall where the the movie theaters
themselves are barely keeping the lights on. They say, just
and and you know, honestly, look at some of the bankruptcies,
like I think it's true, like they seem to not
be they're not doing well. They're up against the wall.
And you know, you look over at the expensive report
and it's it's largely just studios saying, yeah, the movie
costs as much. I think that's one of the gaps

(01:29:19):
where maybe the movie studios should have been like, fuck,
I don't think that's sustainable. We need to cut we
need to find a way to make this uh work
and cut the price. Like sorry, I don't think I
think you overpriced it, and it hurt. I don't know
to some extent that's hard to do. It's like saying,
you know, drugs cost too much. Well, R and D
costs a lot too, the whole fucking argument for that
as well, but like it didn't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Yeah, I would love to see and I don't know
how this how capable it is in our society in America,
in the US. Uh, you know, Japan, their fucking movie
theaters are fantastic. They have shops that you can buy
a merchant for all the fucking movies that are around.

(01:30:02):
They have free, free, tiny like little movie flyers that
you know, you could take home and frame. They it's
fucking wonderful. They've got so many cool things. And I
don't know why, we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Know in your lifetime what you've watched is and I
assume most people with kind of you know, suburban experiences
have gone through basically this process over the last If
you're our age, you've seen over the last thirty forty
years what was probably once a pretty cool experience but
kind of not you know what it looks like at

(01:30:35):
the be any of those fucking AMC and regal advertisements anyway,
might have been at a pretty seedy theater when you know,
back in the nineties when you were going. But even
then you might have had you might have some nostalgic
memories about going to some some theater of the big
screen popcorn all that stuff, arcades that worked like nothing's changed,
like in my lifetime. You can drink beer in there
now if it's one of them where they serve that,

(01:30:57):
you can have a couple of meals in there now. Yeah,
Basically they got an air fryer, and they'll serve you
more things that will help ruin the meal of the
you know, listening experience of the people around you. But
there there's recliners and look, I know there's a whole
argument about like, yeah, we have these fancy chairs. Now,
I know that's a whole set of theater experiences, and

(01:31:19):
in the boutique sense, a lot of those are doing
really well. But kind of what you're saying, like when
you're catering to new audiences and doing new novel things,
that's one thing, the basic sense of I have this
giant box and you come and sit here in this
uncomfortable chairny popcorn for a while. It's just it's not
hitting like it used to. Right, No, it's not the arcades,
don't the machinean the Batman game doesn't even work on

(01:31:42):
the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Did we talk about this on the show. I don't
think we did. I sent you a video the other
day of like glasses, Yeah, yeah, yeah, those things you
put on glasses and it looks like if you're looking
through the glasses, it looks like you're looking at a
giant screen and you can watch any movie. You no
longer have to have a television in your home. It

(01:32:06):
could look like you were sitting in a theater because
you've got a pair of glasses on in your bathtub.
Theaters are fucked unless they figure something out. Fucking now, well,
that was and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
On top of everything else, it's one of the things
that COVID kind of broke, like it broke the seal
off in a way that we'd never put it back.
You're never going to see the numbers come back on
just basic theater like you saw. And that's that's if
you're not blaming the distribution methods and habits.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
We were just talking to a gentleman who was talking
about the theatrical experience and the communal experience of going
to the theater. I sympathize, But as he was saying it,
and I don't even think I said it to him,
I was thinking, that is everything about what I hate
in the theater. I don't want to hang out with people.

(01:33:02):
I don't want to feel the room grow hot or
the room grow cold because of some scene or some
actor that they do or don't like. I don't want
to hear them rattling their fucking bullshit candy wrappers. I
don't want to hear them much of their fucking chips.
I don't want their kids screaming about how they gotta
go wii wi. I don't want any of this shit.

(01:33:24):
I want to sit at home. I want to pause
it when I have to piss.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
I'm riding between you, though, man, like I've gotten there is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
I want every want to have a version of this
for themselves, though.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I get it, And look, I think you just need
to have a spectrum of things. I think it's nice
to have a series of experiences and maybe a favor.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
One, you know, like, yeah, I'll I love you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
I was, you know, watching end Game or something in theaters.
That was a that was cool. Even before that, watching
that first fire Man movie in theaters. Yeah yeah, packed
on opening night, I mean, squeezed in between two strangers.
We're fucking rooting for things together. It was great. I
mean that was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Ninety five opening of Batman Forever, whole theater was packed.
I couldn't sit down. I had to stand in the
fucking aisle. That was amazing. That was really cool. When
Cap picks up the fucking mule Nir on your left,
all that shit, like the crowd reaction was like magic. Yeah,
but most of the time, that's like a ninety nine

(01:34:28):
point nine percent of the time. It's not that when
you're in a theater.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Well, it isn't that most of the time. I think
that's because of where we're from. I don't think we
just I don't think we have enough numbers. I think
we won't have enough volume to really get good numbers
that way. I think it's just a matter of us
living to like, our biggest city doesn't have enough people
in it, even if it's the you know, biggest city, right, Like,
we need just more metrics to be able to make

(01:34:54):
like a critical mass of people that can get together
for cool things and make it that cool. You need
stuff that all is two billion in the box office
to get an experience like Endgame or you know, the
first Spider Man appearance or something like that. You can
be there for truly magical things. But our neck of
the woods, it just doesn't come up as much, and
we're not gonna have as many people there.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Right, But when it does, it's very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
I haven't gotten to be there for too many.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Yeah, not very few and far between.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
All right, that's in a way, And I know this
sounds dumbe. But like, in a way some of those
streaming movies at least I was like, well, I get
to see what everybody else does this time, Like, you know,
there's no there is nothing at all analog about watching
it by yourself. But and I'm a little bit in
between two. I love seeing a movie when I'm the
only person in the theater, and it happens a lot
because I go to the movies at weird times. I mean,

(01:35:41):
I'm I'm happy to go at you know, eleven o'clock
showing on a Sunday and just shut down the internet
for forty eight hours because I can't look Thursday, Friday,
Saturday at the you know whatever it was until I
get to the theater. But I am more than happy
to go sit literally by myself and just watch a
big screen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
But you know, I don't it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
I mean, yeah, some of them would be. It'd be
great to have to cheer along with people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
I'm telling you, man. They opened it up like where
you can go and buy a T shirts, where you
can go and buy like and they should also do
it where like you they have theaters a couple of
screens dedicated to old movies.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Well one of our dreams. Look, here's here'd be my
pitch to Netflix, is or anybody really my pitch to
theaters before would have been this as And one of
the things I think Netflix has a they're disposal now
is they have what I'm going to call a vert
quim monopoly on this. They if they had the studio,
they had the creatives now as well, you don't have
to compete against the theaters. You don't have to spend

(01:36:40):
all the money here. You don't have to badenoth theaters either.
You just let it go to theaters. And if you
don't want to see it at theaters, that's fine. You
can pay thirty five dollars to watch it at home
instead that day. Yeah, no, sweat off their back. And
by the way, if you go to the theater that
morning or that afternoon, let's say you watched it Thursday night,
Friday or whatever, Yeah, maybe you would have gone to
the second viewing that weekend. Maybe you would have gone
out before. And now now instead you're gonna watch it

(01:37:01):
at home. Like that is a that's a that's a
for real, a realizable loss on the on the sheet.
But they're just going to transfer that and they're gonna
make that a rental. You won't be able to buy
the movie at home necessarily. It's just gonna be rented
only for like that thirty day window. Whatever. There's a
lot of ways to monetize this, but it's probably still
just gonna be a thirty day window. And to be realistic,
that's where a lot of movies were leaning anyway. Thirty

(01:37:22):
days and then you're gonna be able to stream it
somewhere or find it somewhere, prime video it somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
That was gonna be the standard no matter where we go.
I don't think there's any reason for them to get
rid of that. There's no reason not to make the
money in theaters. But if I got my pitch to them,
I would still say, look, man, just they're doing a
lot of something close to this. Anyway. If you look
at your local theater right now, especially in our A,
you know, it's gonna be fiftyth anniversaries of movies you've
for gotten even existed. It's gonna be like the you know,

(01:37:47):
twenty seventh anniversary of the movie Tootsie is going to
air this far whatever. But they're it's a weird mix,
but you just air these little showings, you know. I
guess that's the term people used in actual theaters and
they were being run by people who actually curated things, right,
But they'll do showings great.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
At some point, it's I think it's gonna event We're
gonna eventually at a point where it's gonna cost like
two hundred bucks to rent out of theater and you
can show whatever the hell it is that you want.
You can, you know, choose the first five episodes of
Daredevil or whatever the fuck is. But I think there's
gonna be a point where you can just rent out
the theater and watch whatever it is with your twenty
friends and bring your crowd and do that thing. Or

(01:38:28):
I mean that they're not gonna let you subcontract the
theater and rent it out for whatever and sell your
tickets to fucking Avengers again. But like, there'll be ways
to do this. But I look, how cool would it
be if you actually could instead of like if there
was a way to purchase a movie where you had
what's the DRM copy of something like of a song

(01:38:48):
or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
That rights media, Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Yeah, So if I were able to purchase for like
eighty bucks, whatever the price point would be. If I
were able to like five purchase an actual copy of
Blues Brothers or whatever for eighty bucks and hand it
to you, you get a USB stick with a like
a four K copy that's available in a couple dimensions
or a couple of you know what's the word I

(01:39:12):
want here, ratio.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Think you don't even to do that. You would purchase it.
It's hooked up to your telephone, just like it is
at the fucking fandango or something. You go to the theater,
you scan your code.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
They already have the copy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
They have the copy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Yeah, right, so it's cloud copied. You just have access
rights to it. Yeah, so you would you would go
to like a jukebox in the sky kind of situation, right,
but you have access to that, you've got the code.
Well cool, What if in any theater I want to
in any city in the world, if I if I'm
traveling or all like that, but like anywhere I want to,
I could just be able to Cool, let me rent
the theater for twenty bucks. I already have a copy
of this thing. Let me show my people that kind
of model where we're just using that big space that

(01:39:49):
by the way. It's another problem theaters have, and one
of the reasons they close so readily is what the
fuck out are you going to use that for?

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
It's a theater.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Like, when it's done, it's still a theater. You got
to mow it down to get anything ouse side of it.
Doesn't have a high resale value that way.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
So one of the ways we're gonna be able to
use it is to use the space, and I think
reinning it out to to you know, idiots like us
so we can go watch Seana the Dad again is
one of the ways you're gonna be able to do that.
I just don't know how you're gonna be My thing
would be, like I said, dr M copies of things
and the jukebox in the sky.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Like you're saying, yeah, I think that's I think that's
probably part of the future.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
Some version of that kind of series is what we
might stumble into.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Mm hmm, all right, let's uh are you are you
good with that? Are you you good with feeling? Are
you good with that staying there? I think? So you
have anything else?

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Oh god, I could probably go in for hours about
that merger.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Probably I couldn't. I think I said what I had
to say, I thought, But yeah, I'm quite good. I mean,
Serrando's has actually come out and said that you're not
getting rid of theaters or they're you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
He did do a very direct pull quote about that
in the last few days, in the week following the
big news, he has done a thing specifically saying we
are not getting read of theater. He to paraphrase a
little bit, the pull quote was, we did not buy
this to devalue it, like, we're buying it to use
it for what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
And they'll have more you know, you'll probably get more Netflix. Uh,
you'll uh special events.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Problem of this, Yeah, And like is everything about that
an empty promise? Yes, yes, absolutely, And they'll break it
and it'll be it'll unravel and it'll all go the
direction that we're afraid of. I think it'll all still
do that. I don't think that was gonna change either way.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Though, I don't. Yeah, I don't think there is a
way around it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
I think this is the direction we're going in and
Netflix is just gonna be the one carrying the bullet
for a little while.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
But it's not Netflix carrying the bullet though, that's the
fucking thing about it. It has always been us.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
I mean, yeah, we're it has always been us.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
We people.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
If there were more sales and theaters know this to
be a fucking conversation. All the box office sales are fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
People on threads on Facebook, rah rah rah, theaters going
away on Yeah, and not even that, not even just that,
it's yeah, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Oh, why can't Hollywood have any fresh ideas? They're all
out of ideas. No one wants original content. The second
they fucking announced the original piece of original content, the
same motherfucker who just complained is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Gonna go who asked for that? Yeah, and then they
don't go and fucking support it. I don't know what
that is. Yeah, yeah, that sounds like some I don't
even know. Yeah, it's an original idea.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
Yeah, at you're trying to get a cross section happy,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Yeah, It's just makes me ill. I'm like, if you
want to fucking save theaters, go take your rowdy idiot
friends the fucking theater.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
On week seven. By the way, on we seven. I
can't stress this part enough. Look one of the like,
I again, all the complaints are right, We're doomed. I
think you're right. I just don't think this is any
worse like the But the only way we can solve
that is by literally going to fucking spend the money
over there, like they have us buy the nuts, man,
Like we we can't force the theaters to lower the

(01:43:18):
rates like I was bitching about before, that's not going away.
Like that's what the strike price is. If they were smart,
they would lower it all by whatever colluded price they
can agree on so that everything can continue. But like,
because that's where the long term money is, but they
won't probably do that. It's like we're so we're stuck
with whatever they're doing there. The theaters can't do much
more than they seem to be able to do. I'm like,
you can take a look at some of their books.
I wouldn't advise buying their stock if you really cared

(01:43:39):
about doing anything with it. Like, it's not a good setup,
it's not a good market. This is it doesn't. It
just doesn't long term look great, man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Yeah, this isn't. This isn't going to fix or necessarily
hasten it. I think they'll now that they're in charge
and they have as much incentive to make money out
of that as anything else, and no reason to make
them comp against each other. There's no reason not to
just keep that method distribution as long as it makes
sense for it to be there. So again, instead of
the driving, we all need to go on week one,

(01:44:10):
because everyone still thinks week one matters, even though we
all should just admit that it's weeks one through three
that are what we should consider the opening week because
we're fucking busy, man. Yeah, But then again, go on
week six, like, make a special trip several weeks after,
like weeks after that thirty day window that we all
kind of think this is shrinking too, and they're all

(01:44:31):
afraid of go in week five, six seven, Make sure
you go a month later and make sure the legs,
so to speak, stay in this movie if we really
want to keep it around, because that's the only way.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
If you want to see like the truth about like
a thing like go about what we're talking about. Go
and look up the theatrical history of the movie Scream.
I'll believe it did. It didn't did great, It didn't
do great initially, but it had fucking legs, like it
had good word of mouth, and as the weeks stretched on,
they ca going down, they were going up. People poor

(01:45:04):
people kept going and they like they weren't. They weren't
take it out of the theater. It was just like, oh,
we're doing this for months. It's like six months in
this fucking movie is business. I don't care sit in
the theater.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Might he's still here, man, fuck you?

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
It is fascinating that the entire creation. I'll try to
find there's an episode of Movies with Mikey where he
talks about Scream as one of the fucking best things
I've ever seen. I'm gonna send it to you, Jason.
I'll put it in the show notes if I can remember,
but absolutely, uh please watch that. It is. It will

(01:45:43):
inform the way you think about the creation of movies
as well. But it's also just a fantastic fucking layout
on how that movie came to be and how it was.
You know, that's the one where he like he starts
out with these I think he says something like making
a movie is like hitting a target with a dart

(01:46:03):
from space.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Movies with Mikey's great anyway, or it was back then.
I don't know how if he's even still doing it,
but Anyway, we got a couple more stories here, James
Gunn said in a Deadline post. Sorry replied to a
Deadline post announcing details about the Jimmy Olsen show DC Crime. Yeah,
and he says, just FYI, there has never been a

(01:46:28):
project titled DC Crime in development, not even as a
working title. I don't know where that came from. But
it's weird. And no, that doesn't mean all of the
rest of the story is false. Yeah, that seems pretty
odd that. You know, it's like, okay, so this is
what's happening, but it's not called DC Crime. What the

(01:46:50):
fuck is this?

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Yeah, it was never gonna be called that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
No, I don't know what this means. An account called
Real Anarchy R E E L of course. Uh. I
was a picture of the actor Tom Britney, who was
a front runner for Superman, and it says Bruce says
Merman EMOJI. Don't know what that means? Uh. James Gunn

(01:47:13):
responded that guy is a fucking great actor or a
great fucking actor, so we know this guy was a
front runner for Superman.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
This is the guy that fucked up Henry Cavill's suit
and ripped it because he's too fucking tall. Ah and it.
Oh yeah you did. We talked about it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
I'm sorry I didn't remember knowing about that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Yeah, he's only six to two.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Yeah, how thought was like five to eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Yeah, because they came for him. The Internet came for him,
The Snyder Bros. Came for him, and he was like,
I feel so bad about it, and we were like
fuck off. He felt bad. He felt bad.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
No, Cavil's six y one one inch broke that suit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
I mean, I know Internet heights are dubious at best.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
But still, I mean, I went, an inch is an inch,
you know?

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
Yeah, an inch is of mile sometimes man.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Yeah, but Gun loves him, and uh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
It looks cheery.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
It has started a conversation about whether or not he
might be Batman. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
I couldn't mind it just looking at him. He actually,
well maybe I did just start with he looks cheery.
I maybe now that I'm looking at it, it might
be a little too much fu.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Now I do really think Gun's gonna lean into an
angry Batman, So I do. I don't know if this
is the guy from just those weird photos but that's
like two photos that are ran across at the top.
I don't know what that was actual cannon is or
catalog is. I don't know this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
I mean, look at this, I don't know what you're
looking at. I mean I saw a couple of you know,
smiley pictures. But uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
Oh, one of the other ones, this is one of
the immediate finds is Tom Brittany has Bruce Wayne and yeah,
sure enough, it's fine there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
I mean he he's got the smolder.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Yeah, he could be some smolder.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Yeah, I'm sending you the thing. I'm sending you one. Yeah,
and that you know, that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
Could be a playboy smile too, that's what that can Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Yeah, this is literally the one that uh, here's one
that Gunn actually commented that on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
He's got a bit of you know, he's got a
bit of a smolder to him, a bit of a smolder.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
I think I think he'd get away with it. But
he does not look like he's been punched enough in
my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Yeah, I agree with that. Uh, and I would love
to punch him.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
Yeah, not because I disliked the guy, it's just, you know,
just for being too damn good looking. Dare you he
he does not look quite scrappy enough. In my head.
I think I think I would cast a little scrappier. Yeah,
if I were getting a dream in that direction.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
I've got a version of Batman in my head that
I would love to do one day, and I'm so
scared the gun is going to do something really close
to it. M I'm so scared. I'm like, because I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
So scared, I can't lose the wait untime.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
It's like, yeah, no, I've just got this idea. I'm like, man,
I would love to see that version. I'd love to
make that version.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Can I be your stunt double? I'd love to see
the heights change.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
I don't want to do a movie. I want to
a comic or something.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
But it will be a comedy if we do it,
I promise you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
I said, comic, Yeah, yeah, comic.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
Book, comic relief yeah no, fuck. I I just want
to see you. I just want to see I just
want to see your stunt double go to like half
the height when I hop.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
In there there's no stunt double.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
I know it will be one day all You're right, no,
there won't be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
We have played Batman and Robin before. We've been on film,
which which is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
And I do look again, half your height in a
Robin outfit?

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
You do? That exists on the internet. I find it
as far as that casting goes, it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
And I'm in I'm in the proper like Robin colors
instead of like night Wing would have said a little
a little higher next to you. It didn't like that.
I'm like the fifteen year old version.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Yeah, the version of what I'm talking about is not
you know, our version where Batman had been brain damaged
from yours of fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
And speculatively was not super bright before it started.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Maybe not anyway, That's all I've got.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Ours is a hungry version he was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
Yeah, he's a hungry boy. I hope one day I'll
be able to edit one that one video that we did, yeah,
because there's one that we'd made and we've never been
able to release it. It was madness.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Yeah, although you know, they changed the editing style on
YouTube all the time, so people get used to different
editing styles. Who knows what we could get away with
these days?

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Yeah, who knows. Maybe one day we'll find out before
I'm dead.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
I don't know. I don't know that that that's gonna
be a lonely day where we get cornered enough to
finish that project.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
I don't know. Yeah, I might do it on a
lark one day.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
Yeah, it's possible. It's possible.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
You'll just get a link. You'll just get a link
to a terrible, terrible thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
I think if it does happen, it'll it'll just be
that for whatever reason, it got brought up and you
just brought up the footage just to look at it,
and then just you're in the shower and you go,
wait a second, I have an end, and then I
get a message for you, like six hours later. It's like,
so check out this cut real quick. Yeah, that's pretty good.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Throw up, dude. I've I've got like three or four,
at least three or four videos that I would love
to finish, yeah and put up, and I have it.
I have the footage for it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
We did dumb leak film some things.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
I am dangerously close or we are both dangerously close
to having podcasts and for the better part of twelve hours. Yeah,
we truly are. So all right. Yeah, well we're started
about eleven Yeah, I think so. I am going to
call it and I love you, and this been a journey.

(01:53:18):
You know that just sounds like a toilet flushing, It
doesn't here. Yeah, that little a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
Said a running brook could be applause.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
That's the only one that really makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Then we went around, all right, thank you guys for
listening to this very long episode of DC on screen.
I'm sorry that we've taken so long to do another one.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
And this, uh we spent half a day apologizing, Yeah
we did it. Going to be another half a day
added thing it down to the apology and actually send you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Anyway. I love you, guys, and until next time, keep
some DCY on your screen. Bye.

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