#34 - Deacon Gary Rudemiller - Deacons Discussions Drinks

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Tim Stout (01:01):
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Kentucky. It's April 23 2021.
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Tim Stout (01:47):
Hey, good evening, everybody. Welcome to triple D
lab from Khartoum studio inGeorgetown. For what we hope so
good, exciting discussion. I'mDeacon Tim Stout. Oh, hold on,
hold on, hold on. Hold on. I didit again. I'm Deacon Tim Stout.

Dallas Kelley (02:01):
I'm Deacon Dallas Kelly.

Tim Stout (02:03):
Welcome to the show.
Hey, if you're joining us onFacebook or YouTube, YouTube,
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watching on. Make sure thathappens. Hey, tonight's guest.
We're going right to the guest.
Steve, you ready for that? IsDeacon Gary? rude. Miller.
Welcome to the show, Gary.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller (02:23):
Thank you. It's good to be here. I
appreciate.

Tim Stout (02:26):
Yeah. What's the bell ringing the bell? I do. I do.
Hold on. I got bell. Hold on.
You ready? Ready? Stop the musicfirst. I might like a novice
tonight or what have you.

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Welcome to the show. Thank you.
So we'll do a properintroduction here in a minute,
but we're gonna go to currentevents because that's what we
do. Right? We do current events.
That's Who wants to go first?

Unknown (02:58):
I don't have one.

That's not a current event.

Tim Stout (03:02):
Yeah. Gary, you want to Gary's got a current event?
You do? He did. He studied forthe show. He knows how this
works. You know? Yeah,

I, I do have a current event. If
anybody's been following whatgoes on with the German Catholic
Church? Oh, yeah. state ofschism is quickly approaching
us. It is a concern. One of thethings I early on admired about
Pope Francis is that he wouldallow us as Catholics to have
conversations aroundcontroversial issues. Many, many

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people have always thought Oh,the Catholic Church is very
suppressive. They don't allowconversations and Pope Francis
would allow them and Iappreciated that. But in the
case of Germany, you wonder ifit may have gone a little too
far

Fr. Linh Nguyen (03:44):
too much compensation. You think?

Too much? Too much latitude given
attitude, the nodal approach.
That's a concern.

How many Catholics are in Germany? A lot.

So what is it to make sure people know what
you're talking about?

Well, the German Catholic Church has
always in Germany, thegovernment collects a church
tax. And the Lutheran Church issupported by this government
church tax in the CatholicChurch is supported by the
government church tax. And sothere there is a dependency on
on the the church tax by thesechurches for their revenue, and

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citizens have the choice whetheror not to pay the church tax.
Many years ago, everybody wouldpay the church tax. That's not
so much the case today. So whatcould be what could be at the
root of some of the issue aroundthe scinote approach, and
wanting to keep some of theprogressive movements in the

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German culture in the churchesstable, so to speak, could be
could be some of the financialissues related to revenue loss
from the church tax. I'm not anexpert on it, but the situation
now with the The German bishopspursuing this anodal approach,
and Pope Francis has beendiscouraging it. But the

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progress in this littledirection is a concern because
if it progresses, it could leadto schism. And that would not be
good for him or be more tangibleand concrete.

What are they proposing that Pope Francis on?

Well, I, you're asking me to give details
that I'm probably not qualifiedto give but your progressive
social issues are things thatare at the forefront here.
giving giving communion todivorced and remarried Catholics
who haven't had the cream ofknowledge declared, giving
communion to non Catholics. Someof the LGBTQ issues lessening of

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same sex

marriage couple,

yeah, those are progressive issues
that are, are in the front andcenter of what's going on in the
German Catholic church. Andthere is a I don't know the name
of it, there is a layorganization that is aligned
with the bishops pushing theprogressive issues. And I really
don't know the degree to whichthe Catholics in Germany are
separated along lines. I don'tknow what level of of, of

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Catholics in Germany adhere tothe long standing tradition of
the church in which are pushingthe progressive issues. I don't
know the split there, but it isa concern. It's a concern for
all of us. Certainly.

We interesting conversation. No,

Tim Stout (06:29):
no controversial issues in the states related
today that stuff. Right, Dallas.
Just everything's hunky dory inthe church and in the US. Not I
just read read something today,where I'm gonna get it wrong.
Bishop Supachai wrote a letterto one of the bishops about his

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stance on communion. I can'tremember the specifics now. But
it was interesting that he wrotea letter and then the bishop
responded to him and basicallyclarified his position. But I
guess that's that happens allthe time. Right?

Oh, yeah.
Bishop communicate with eachother. But do

Tim Stout (07:11):
they do it publicly, although

some decide to make more public because the
other Bishop perhaps alreadymake a public statement. This is
create an public controversialconversations. I want to make a
more public address on that.
Yeah, they do. They do.

Tim Stout (07:31):
It seems like that they would get it figured out
when they're meeting. I mean, Icome in I know Gary does, too.
We'll talk about your backgrounda little bit. But from, from a
business perspective, from amanufacturing business
perspective, you always want tohave this united front, right.
You want to whatever your valuesare, whatever your position is,

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you might battle it out in thein the meeting room, in the
boardroom, whatever, but whenyou go out to the troops, they
know where you stand. There's nothere's no controversy, but the

for me, it's great. I think you have to look
at this whole Coronavirus,right. Everything people kind of
bogged down crippled by thisvirus in everything that we do.
This kind of controversial isgreat from within the life of
the Jordan. So there's a lotmore important issues when to

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deal with instead asCoronavirus, right. And I I
excited I read in an articlefrom the register and they talk
about this they talk about wehave an opportunity by this
Coronavirus how to make thingsmore exciting. You know, we love

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to live upon pride of the COVIDwe live this the status quo,
right? We have enough people forthe church, okay? We worry about
the budget great. People givemoney or not great, but now
we're gonna face what I ain'tgonna charge anymore. You better
do something about that. So, itcaused us to go to the core, I

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think of what how we excitepeople about Jesus Christ. And
it's not the job of priests ordeacons. But every one of us
either from social media thestuff that we are doing here you
know, I'll go to the bar and getpeople excited about it. You
know everything and I thinkthat's a big things that we need

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to consider. You know,

I think this thought crossed my mind
last week and call it divineinspiration. Maybe maybe not
maybe I'm just nuts, but theremay be there may be a God at
work in this Coronavirus fromthe standpoint of, you know, we
live in a technological worldwhere levels of communication
aren't so much verbal anymore.
You know, you'll see peoplesitting at the dinner table
doing this and you'll seeteenagers doing They're not

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talking to each other but doingthis to each other. And we've
lost that sense ofcommunication. We've lost that
sense of community. And andwhat's happened since
Coronavirus, is it? I thinkright now people are thirsting
for relationships. They'rethirsting to be with people. And
maybe this is the silver liningaround this cloud called

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Coronavirus, is we nowappreciate relationships, we
appreciate conversation. Weappreciate being with others in
ways perhaps in the past we'vetaken for granted. Absolutely,

Tim Stout (10:29):
I think I think we see that I think we see that a
church on Sunday. Oh, yeah. Youknow, we we have mass outdoors
every Sunday. at Easter, we had500 600,

just a few short from 6605, nine eggs, something

Tim Stout (10:44):
like that, you know, when you see those families that
are, you know, six feet apartfrom other families and stuff.
And when you say, let us offereach other sign a piece and we
bow. And those families, they'rehugging. They're, they're glad
to be with each other. Right?
That to me, that's, you know,that's just a small thing, like
what you're talking about, butthere's a thirst, there's no

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doubt about it.

What I also think it's helped people
really appreciate the realpresence of Jesus Christ in the
Eucharist. You know, we hear themaybe it was a Pew study that
says 67% of Catholics don'tbelieve in the real presence
even Thank you, Chris is asymbol. But I really think when
when as deacons and priests,when we are able to confer the
sacrament others you can, youcan see tears running down

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running down to their cheek,it's it really impresses upon
you how much they really havemissed being able to receive the
sacrament regularly.

Tim Stout (11:39):
Yeah, there's no doubt we're different from other
denominations, right? Oh, yeah,we're, you know, and there's a
lot of people that still haven'tcome back to church yet. We try
to invite people on this show tocome back, there's the best time
to come back is every day,right? So come back, if you're
watching it, you haven't beenback, come back. But there is
this, this thing that separatesus from all the others that

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nomination and so just a littlething called the Eucharist. And,
you know, just a little, just alittle, just a little thing.
And, you know, it is somethingthat that our our folks have
yearn for. And, but there isthere are a certain number of
people that that haven't. Andmaybe it's that 67% that the Pew

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studies talking about? Becausethere will be we talked about
yesterday, there will be a lotof folks that don't come back.
Simple as that.

Right from probate, the excitement, the
opportunity, right. Becauseduring the Coronavirus, the
number one criteria as thediocese as priests, Bishop
Deacon, we're going to concernabout how to give out communion.
Oh, believe me, there are plentyof people suggested. You know,

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we call it a communiondispenser. You remember that
that space saucer, and they sentit to me. And then you know,

just communion in a bag

coming in a bag a communion, if

Tim Stout (13:05):
somebody had like a hunger to use this beer bottle
just because it's on a desk, butit was like a dispatcher, like,
you push a button in itdispenses a host out of the
bottom.

It's up to catechize. Right? It's
wonderful. But like, you make acomment, beautiful. You have
seen it, I have seen it. Thosewho hunger genuinely, and for
the body and blood of JesusChrist. And that that,

Tim Stout (13:34):
that champion, you know where those people are,
those are the people that areout there in 10 degree weather
on Christmas Eve, those are thepeople out there when it's
pouring down rain, and they'vehad a poncho on. And I'm not
taking away from the people thataren't there during those times.
I'm just saying that those thosepeople have a thirst for the
Eucharist. That is, you know,even beyond sometimes what I

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mean, even what I feel sometimesI feel like man, look at these
because we're under we'reinside, right? We're we're
underneath. Inside a doorway,we're protected a little bit.
But those folks that are outthere, I mean, we're still
freezing cold when we're stillfreezing cold, we're still
frigid. But those folks are outthere in the elements that are
that are not in their cars. Butbecause there's a good

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percentage of people that areinto cars, but they're sitting
there in the elements. It's anamazing testament to their
faith.

Now for me, it's so amazing. I have never
seen this. But those folks havea testament of martyrdom. You
know, I call it the modernmartyrdom, all the other first
world martyrdom, if you will,they might not get the blood for
it. But they are willing tostand sub zero temperature and

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they want Jesus they wantnothing but Jesus and communion.
And that is a huge testament towitnesses.

And it helps us to remember that that
the focus of the mass is not thehomily. The focus of the mass is
the youth

Unknown (15:01):
Oh yeah,

Tim Stout (15:03):
we can get in trouble for

that. We've now been through all seasons right.
From blistering hot we're we'redrenched in sweat to three
degrees.

Tim Stout (15:15):
Steve we need to get the umbrella back out to cover
the because the equipmentoverheats. It's so hot out
there,

gentlemen, just BP pair the cicadas coming.

Unknown (15:25):
Oh yeah,

we survived the well we got the invasion of the
flag. But we have not faced acicada Jerry

the last two times to two weeks weeks flies
have been hatching. I mean,they're everywhere. The mic is
covered with

Tim Stout (15:39):
Yeah, go back and watch some of the sun on the
same Facebook page or Sunday,Sunday masses on

Bali lands homily, he's

Tim Stout (15:45):
doing that. The whole if you look at right at that
there's a windscreen on the micon the ambo. And it's just like
it looks black. But if youreally look at it's all flights
moving. All the joys. We didn'tplan for that and information
did we know. So I

remember I came back from my first year
ordination give a talk toseminary and my talk. It was had
to do with expect theunexpected. You make it happen.

Tim Stout (16:18):
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Amen. Yes. You never know wealways have something going on
something different, you know,something from a technology
perspective, you know, and weset up we think we set up
everything the same way everytime any you Same way with you
right with the wind. You know,we're setting the ambo up, we're
setting the altar up the wind'sblowing, we're covering Jesus
because, you know, we don't wantJesus blown away. It's it's a

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challenge. What are y'all doingfor mass

inside, we have regulations for social
distancing and for mask wearingupstairs. In the church proper,
we can between the Carl choirloft, those of us in the
sanctuary. And the people in thebody of the church, we can fit
fit about 70 people plus orminus upstairs. And in the
basement, we livestream down toa big screen TV in the basement,

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we can sit another 50 or 60 downthere. So we can we can get 130
or 140 per mass. And we havethree masses each weekend and at
least two of the three we dohave people down in the
basement. And the 730 mass onSunday morning. Generally we
don't have people down there butbut over the last couple of
weekends, we've had more peoplecoming. It's good to see at St.

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Louis is good to see a number ofpeople coming back truly, truly
it's good to see very, verygood.

Tim Stout (17:34):
And how many parishioners roughly 300
families plus or minus. So abouthalf ourselves and that's good
to hear. Good to hear is is

your new priests coming?

Yeah, Yes, we do. Father John's only
been with us two years.

Tim Stout (17:49):
JOHN Moriarty is going to the cathedral. He's
going to be the new Rector andRector. We will have to have a
show about what that means.
Rector versus pastor, but justthat Okay, good. Yeah. So who is
your new pastor gonna be?

Father Aldrin tag. He was ordained two
years ago. Filipino priest and Ithink will be a good fit for St.
Luke's father john came in as avery good fit, and we're gonna
miss him. Two years here. He'sreally made a lot of friends and
made a lot of impact in youknow, the parish had father bush

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for 30 years and father Bush'slast couple years. We have
father Ron Schmelzer. And thenwe have father Nick pagano. And
then father john. So now foralmost five years as a deacon
Father ultram will be my fifthfifth. Wow.

Unknown (18:37):
So lucky.

Tim Stout (18:43):
I guess we are lucky.
We've never really thought of itthat way. But okay, we will

miss father john. He's been a very,
very good addition to St. Luke'sand we wish him the best of
luck.

Did you take him out to play golf yet?

We played one time. Oh, that's one
time

you have enough with him as well. No, I

golf takes a lot of time. I don't
have a lot of time for golf.

Although I would like to play more. But
that's that's a pastoralcomment.

A couple of comments from Janet. Great job
Big brother.

Unknown (19:14):
I Oh, that's my sister Joe.

Tim Stout (19:15):
There you go see

from Michael Fowler recent convert and that
joined for the Eucharist.

Mike, Mike, we had three candidates
come in. This year. Mike was oneof the one of the three and real
pleasure to have him in St.
Luke's.

Tim Stout (19:31):
So how did your Easter Vigil go?

Deacon Gary Rudemi (19:34):
outstanding?

Tim Stout (19:36):
How many how many people came into the church

three.
Well, two that night. Oh, thethird candidate had a move to
Florida that happened a month ortwo sooner than she really
expected. So Father john broughther into the church right before
Lent. But she stayed with usthrough the rest of the RCA prep
that and she'll be during Mr.

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goji three candidates. Yeah,

Tim Stout (20:02):
that's good. So let's close out current events that
you started us with schism andwe ended up talking about your
new pastor. I don't know howthat how that happened, by

the way schism I don't know how many of
you know the band tool toolschism, schism is a fabulous
song just go Google schism andlisten

Tim Stout (20:21):
to listen, I'm gonna put a link in the show notes to

the band's tool to the song schism,

Tim Stout (20:27):
the band tool schism they actually got to kind of in
order to do that.

I already did the article I read on

on I was busy.

Tim Stout (20:43):
What about the news out of the University of
Kentucky basketball team? Oh,wow. Oh, yeah.

I was not around what happened. So

Tim Stout (20:51):
Terrence Clark, who played this year late this year
was declared for the NBA draftwas killed in a traffic
accident. Yesterday in LosAngeles at the age of 19.

Unknown (21:02):
God rest his soul hits,

Tim Stout (21:04):
you know, it's a didn't have a seatbelt on.
tragic event, just a kid who hada great smile seemed like you
know, everything you hear abouthim is real positive. But you
know, life, life takes a lot ofunexpected twists and turns
sometimes, and you just neverknow when it's your time, you
know, that's gonna call youhome. So prayers for him and his

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family and the whole universityKentucky basketball structure
organization. So hey, just ifyou got any questions, go ahead
and put those in the comments.
Dallas is in charge of thequestions tonight. If you've got
questions for Deacon Gary, as wego in here, I'm gonna do your
formal introduction and you canfill in a little bit you sent me
like, you sent me a really longintroduction, so I'm not gonna

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read it. So I'm just gonna gowith what I think is

on page number seven.

Tim Stout (21:52):
I was like, Okay, I know a little bit about Gary
now. Hey, Gary's credo Catholic,which is always good to know he
married his high schoolsweetheart, Doris. They've got
three boys. I'm assuming they'reall Catholic.

Yes. And that's that's a blessing by God.
They're all men of God. Theyfear God they raise your family
in the Catholic faith. We'revery blessed.

Tim Stout (22:12):
graduate of Miami University with a BS and paper
science and engineering. Anotherengineer on the show. Whoo. Oh,
yeah.

Three engineers right here.

Tim Stout (22:23):
Gary also has a masters and a PhD in paper
science. Where do you get thoseat?

The Appleton, Wisconsin for about 50
years up in Appleton. It was agraduate school dedicated to the
paper industry and about 100people to

Tim Stout (22:37):
sound like the University of Wisconsin, this
called

the Institute of paper chemistry. So
I went there, got my masters.
And I got I was intending to geta PhD. But quite honestly, I got
tired of schools who went leftand went moved to Virginia for
three years. And then I got theitch and we went back and I got
my PhD. And at that point intime, the industry will many of
the headquarters were ended upin Atlanta. So they were moving
the school from WisconsinAppleton, Wisconsin to Atlanta,
but I defended my thesis the daybefore they closed the doors in

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Wisconsin, so I got my master'sfrom the Institute of paper
chemistry, and I got my PhD eventhough I finished all my work
there. I got my PhD conferred bythe Institute of paper science
and technology in Atlanta. Inever set foot on Atlanta's
campus.

Tim Stout (23:17):
Are you a cheesehead?

Oh, I'm a Packer fan. Okay. Do we call
your bangles after the band

Tim Stout (23:26):
goes first? Do we call you doctor Deacon or Deacon
doctor?

You know our doctor, Mr. Deacon

Musician (23:32):
most most mixers

call me for dinner. That's all

Tim Stout (23:37):
come we didn't know this through format. I

know he's a doctor and

Tim Stout (23:40):
neither because we'd have had a lot of fun with that
information. You know that youkept it a secret, didn't you?

It's not important.

Tim Stout (23:48):
Gary adores moved to Nicholasville in 2009 when Gary
went to work for wassa wassawassa saw paper in the tissue
business. We'll we'll get backto that because I'm interested
in that. You may not be down butI am interested. There are
members of St. Luke andNicholasville. And Gary was
ordained a deacon in 2016. Sametime as Dallas and myself. He's

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presently I'm jealous here semiretired. Yeah, that's good. And
is the executive director of thepaper science and engineering
foundation at the MiamiUniversity in Oxford, Ohio. He
has a consulting business and heis part owner of the Benedict
his book and gifts in Lexington.
He's also the program chair forthe Lexington chapter of
lagunitas. We'll maybe talk alittle bit about that. dorsen

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Gary have been married for 38years. Thank you for that. Yes,
that's. That's a great vocation.
Amen. And they're expecting. I'mjealous here because I have two
grandkids. You're expecting your13th grandchild and Dude, you
have all their names locked in.
I do. That's good. Welcome tothe show, officially. Thank you

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very much. Awesome. I don't knowwhere to start there. I want to
talk about paper. I don't knowwhat you what do you guys want
to talk about? What about paper?

I want to talk about how he ended up being the
is faith. be ordained as adeacon. Okay,

Tim Stout (25:07):
let's start there. So your your, your Catholic cradle
Catholic?

Did you ever fall away? You know, I always ask
cradle Catholics.

God gives people different gifts.
And my gift has always been astrong faith even though I
couldn't necessarily explain it.
I always knew that Catholicismwas right. I always knew that it
was God's gift. And, and I neverdrifted. I missed three Sundays
of church my entire life, andthrough all three of them for
travel. One was Junior College,four of us went up the state of

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Maine to camp at Acadia, and forgood Catholic boys. We got up
Sunday morning, went into townfor church and we got there at
10 o'clock in the mass was atnine. Then the other two were
international travel. So I'vealways had a strong faith. And
in the year 2008 2007, doors andI moved to Wausau, Wisconsin.

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And we joined St. MatthewsParish, where father Bob Thorn
was the was the pastor and a sonof the parish was being ordained
to transitional Deacon over inRome because he was going to the
Pontifical North Americancollege. So people from the
parish were going over there, wewant to go to Rome. So we tagged

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along, we didn't know anybodydidn't really even know father
Bob, sitting at breakfast onemorning over there. He said, Do
you ever think of being adeacon? I said, Nope. And the
conversation. That's how ithappened. Two and a half years
later, two and a half yearslater, at the goddess dinner,
we're sitting with Karen rude,and Bill rude. And everybody
knows that Karen's the directorof liturgy and Bill's a deacon
himself. And at that time, theywere forming the class that we

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joined. And she said, You everthought of being a deacon? I
said, Nope. She said, we've gota class going right now. That's
not for me. Well, the last fewdays before the deadline, I
filled out an application issubmitted, just just just to see
the process. Now I makedecisions pretty quickly. When I
make a decision I go. My wife,Doris isn't so so much like that

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she likes to process and therewasn't time to process. So I
filled out the application. AndI told her after the fact, I've
applied for the, the Aspire, soyou're for the diaconate route.
It took her about four years toforgive me for that. But

she's a blessing.
And she could have said no atany time.

And for people who are listening in the
formation process, the wife hasto give her approval three times
throughout that process, beforeordination. And every time she
did Thank you doors

Tim Stout (27:38):
in a handwritten note has to be in a handwritten note.
So we couldn't fake it right. Wecould write it for him.

Tim and Dallas bribe their wife. I do have
evidence and we

Tim Stout (27:52):
just signed the papers. I think he told us No.
Did they

did they say no.

Tim Stout (27:56):
You know, you got to get your pastors permission.
Right? Yeah, yeah. So we askedfor our prayer pastors
permission he said no. He wantedto see if we were serious, I
think so you go off to Rome. Yousee some stuff over there plants
to see you get back here and thegoddess plant other seed is

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planted. You fill out the formand then you get into it and
you're like what? Wow. Or whatdid I get myself into? This you
know Dallas will tell you whenyou hear Dallas was calling his
his his voice right? You heard acalling man like that. Your
sounds like it's yours is morelike my than

I've never had a two by four over the
head kind of moment. My faithlife. It's always been just a
little urging respiration thatover time germinates and foments
and grows and I remember when Italked to Bishop Gaynor and
during our aspirants here as abishop, how, how will I know if
I'm called to be a deacon, hesaid you won't know until I lay
my hands on you at ordination.
And it was truly almost likethat, because it wasn't until

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probably about two months beforenation that I felt Yes, this is
right up until that time you'requestioning is this right for
me. Am I supposed to be doingthis? Because I wanted to be a
genuine call. Right? I mean, I'msubject to hubris scab. the sin
of pride is my my base in pride.
And so for the first six monthsin aspirants, see, I didn't tell
anybody outside of my wife andfather Bush, because I didn't

(29:24):
want anybody patting me on theback. So Oh, good job, that's a
good thing to do. No, that's,that would be a false a false
reason. I want to make sure itwas a genuine call. And so
during the entire process,you're just asking yourself, Is
this a genuine call? You spentfive years asking yourself, Is
this a genuine call? And itwasn't until two months before
ordination? I felt Yes. This isa genuine call.

Tim Stout (29:47):
And I don't think a lot of people realize that all
the way through the process.
You're you have questions inyour head, right?

Yeah, we all did, right. But it's all we call
you to trust it right? That'sthe only piece that keep us
alive. It took Trusting whateverwill come will become

right.
If it's meant to be

God will make it happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's

Tim Stout (30:10):
it was a challenge. I mean, we, you know, we all we
both get down I actually had anevent through our, through that
process where we felt like thedevil was attacking us. Right,
right. Do you ever have one ofthose?

Oh, me personally No, but the devil,
the devil was after doors, okay.
Yeah, I've got two or threeexamples of as we're approaching
ordination, she had experiences,our fire alarms or fire alarms
will go off always when I wentout of town for business trips.
Okay, and, and interestingly,Father Ron Schmelzer before he
passed away, he had let meborrow the sick the 12 CDs from

(30:44):
the 2009 Conference on ondeliverance ministry that they
have a mundelein Okay, and welistened to all 12 of those CDs.
And on the very last CD, isamong other father Bob Thorn,
because he's will leave it Ican't tell that piece. But also

(31:05):
on the very last CD a guy wastalking about Yeah, and you
know, the people who were doingthe wedding formation for the
couples always liked it when ourDeacon class was in the very
center, because things like firealarms going off wouldn't
happen. And hit us like a ton ofbricks, wow. Because you know,

(31:28):
fire alarms would go off in ourhouse when I wasn't around,
adores, would love to deal withit. She'd wake up at night and
hear scratching on the screen,in shows you go over throw holy
water on the on the screen, youknow, just stuff like that. And
so the devil was after her moreso than me.

Tim Stout (31:46):
You know, we've told our stories before it's real.
People look at you, like you'recrazy are so late. But But,

you know, you said CDs. And I remember I had
forgotten all about an event.
One of the things that happened,and I'll go through it real
quick, because this is we'retalking about you. But one of
the things I remember when Ifelt called I said, You know, I
can't even convince my wife. Imean, I literally had a
conversation with God, I can'teven convince my wife of the

(32:15):
Catholic faith and, and you'recalling me to the diagonal?
Well, within a few days, shecame to me and said she wanted
to become Catholic. Awesome. Butshe said when she asked me that,
she said, Do you have any CDs Ican listen to. I've got tons of
CD, books and CD that. So I gaveher a big stack of CDs, and she
would listen to them in her car.

(32:37):
But she started putting thefirst one in her car. And the
second when she came to me andshe said, they're all blank.
There's nothing on him. So Iwent out our car, every CD I
gave her was blank, nothing. Nowords, just total silence. You
don't have to go over a bunch, awhole bunch

of people, people, people think
that the devil is a fabrication,right? of people. There's no
such thing as a devil. But anytrue there are such things as a
devil. One of the things I enjoymy dakine is being able to go
bless people's homes. And thereare a lot of funny things going
on rooms that get cold thingsfalling off the shelves of stuff

(33:15):
flying through the air. And Ihave had people tell me, after
they've left their homes, weekslater, that stuff has stopped.
And it just, it just conveys tome the power that we as, as
clergy, clergy is ordainedclerics who have been given
faculties by God. Right? We dohave, we do have the ability to

(33:36):
help people who are in direstraits with spiritual issues,
as it's a powerful reminder ofwhat we've been given in
accepting this vocation.

That's awesome.

Tim Stout (33:47):
that's a that's a that's a it's a powerful thing.
When you witness it, right? Whenyou go through it, it just, it's
scary, really it is but yougotta have you gotta have your
faith to fall back on to and andknow that like God's gonna
provide for us. Always. So faithjourney. What else we need to

(34:08):
talk about on your faithjourney. So your called your
you're getting ready toexperience your fifth year
right? We're getting ready to goup on number five,

Unknown (34:15):
June, June.

Tim Stout (34:17):
What's the most exciting thing about your
ministry?

The things that I there are some
things I really do enjoy. One isbeing able to help people along
the sacramental journey. Not allCatholics received sacraments on
time, right? I mean, I havehelped an adult man about 40
years old who never receivedconfirmation I helped him go

(34:41):
through the process to beconfirmed. Couples who have been
married civilly but notsacramentally. In the United
States, we get married in aCatholic Church and that counts
for civil and sacramentalmarriage. But in countries like
Mexico and the Cameroon's youget married civilly, and then
you have to go get married inthe church. Well, sometimes they
don't make it to the church. Fora variety of reasons, so you get

(35:02):
to do the marriage preparationand can validate their marriage.
So that kind of sacramental PrEPis joyful because you see how
much it means to people. I enjoyserving Hispanic community at
St. Luke's we have a Hispaniccommunity. You know, in high
school, I took three years ofSpanish and that was 40 years 45

(35:22):
years ago. And I spent the lastthree or four years slowly
relearning it so that I can behere we go, here we go. Here we
go.

Make sure pass it on to my Deacon. And they
somehow kinda Thanks,

Unknown (35:35):
Gary wash

away from that responsibility. They have no
accountability. But you know,

people, people who are our age, in the
Hispanic community, people ourage, aren't going to spend a lot
of time learning English. peopleour age aren't going to spend a
lot of time learning Spanishhead on not taking three years
of Spanish and remembered how topronounce the word remember how
to read them. I had to relearnwhat the words meant. But I
hadn't lost the fundamentals. Soit made it less cumbersome for

(36:03):
me. Yeah, there you get back inthe year,

they both are never last. well educated
people. French, French, French,Spanish are similar.

Tim Stout (36:15):
Pretty much not the same thing. You

know how bad my memory is? There's no way I can

Tim Stout (36:19):
preach in Spanish.

See?
Wow, I have to read it. Right. Iread it in English, I translate
it and I read it. Because Idon't I don't even give hominis
in English. off the cuff. Irehearse them. Because you know,
when when you when you're takingpastoral responsibility for the
faith of the community, you wantto make sure you don't slip up.
And I'm no expert in the kill.

(36:43):
Yeah, we have an integrateprogram here called preaching,
sharing.

Yes. So he didn't come here to preach in
Spanish. And I said Deacon Timover there, just speaking.

It just started tonight. This is this is the
first time we're doing it.

And then the last thing that there's one
other thing I really do enjoyabout being a deacon is at the
Easter Vigil mass. I love tosing the exalted. Oh, he won't
ever let me sing

Unknown (37:11):
it. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

I look.
No one would mistake me as anopera singer. But my voice is
good enough to sing the Exaltedand I'm

thinking, Gary, I'm telling you the last time we
have a video, of course, we allhave a program. I always type
out what you want to do. And Isay exalted one of your deacons
go ahead and do it. Guess what?

Tim Stout (37:37):
My answer will receive nothing. No one
answered. Deacon john did twoyears ago they could or three
years ago, they could skipped ittwo years ago.

And now they can Tim and Deacon Dallas.

Tim Stout (37:49):
I did it last year.
You did?

Yeah. Tim did he recited it. He did. He did and I
can recite it anytime. You may.

Tim Stout (37:58):
Gary, I didn't know you were gonna blow us up with
the exalted

witness. Oh.
Thanks. So basically, it's arole in making, right?

Yes. But also, you know, on the Hispanic
community, one thing I think isimportant for people to think
about what I have experienced.
No matter how, how good yourSpanish is, or not, the
community appreciates beingreached out to exactly yeah. And
Father john, one of the thingsthat Father john has done
marvelously in his time as St.
Luke's he doesn't speak a lickof Spanish. But he comes, he

(38:32):
greets the people. And he'lltalk to them. And they I don't
know if they understand what areyou saying, but they appreciate
the reach out. And so we have wehave a rotation of priests every
month to do the do the Spanishmass at St. Luke's. The first
the first Sunday of every monthis father john in English. So
he'll do all his parts inEnglish. And we'll do all the
other stuff in Spanish willproclaim the word in Spanish

(38:53):
I'll preach in Spanish, buteverything that the priest does
is in English. And then theother the other three or four
Sundays we have we have priestscome and speak in Spanish, but
the community loves the mass.
English, Spanish, it's not trulybilingual. But father john does
his parts in English, everybodyelse responds in Spanish. And
that's a favorite match for alot of people because the

(39:14):
willingness, the willingness

to read, and I remember father john came to me
there was a push is amazing.
When a bishop can speak Spanish,all the sudden everybody feels
they have to speak Spanish. AndFather john came to me when I
say john, listen, none of ushave a gift to speak a second
language. So don't worry aboutit. The genuineness of who you
present who you are. That's whatpeople love you. So john

(39:39):
exercise, I'm glad to do that.
I'm glad he exercised that. Youknow, don't worry about it just
being there.

Tim Stout (39:48):
You know, whoever what other deacons are, are
there with you.

Right now, David James. He was just
ordained a deacon last June. Sowhen I was ordained shortly
after I was ordained. We hadFourth Deacon incardinated. We
have four deacons for about thefirst year and a half. And then
within a six week period, wewent from four to one. So for
two and a half years, I was onlyDeacon until David got ordained
last June. So it's nice to havea second Deacon available.

Tim Stout (40:14):
Well, you know, we're gonna start a new program too,
because it's the well what we'regonna send our pastor, he speaks
Spanish, we'll send him overthere. You said your pastor
overdue English over here? Howabout that? We're gonna start
these programs. Let's start.

Let's do it.
Well, you know, Pastor, he canspeak

Spanish.
And speaks Yes,

Unknown (40:32):
yeah.

Tim Stout (40:33):
Yeah. He's young guy, right. Just been ordained a
couple years ago. I think I raninto him a few times. It's a
matter and when I was working onwebmaster, it was it was the
same manner. Yes. Yeah. Good.
Good. Good. Good. So I think youguys are gonna be in good shape.
So how's father john gonna be asRector at the cathedral? Only
God. Thanks, thank. You don'twant that job. Is that one of

(40:57):
those jobs that nobody wants?
Just because it's just such sobig a parish? And?

No. Yeah, the bigger the parish, so much
headache. You know, yeah.

Tim Stout (41:12):
Yeah, Enough said about that. Let's, let's move
on. Let's move on. Hey, let's,let's talk about the paper
business. And I'm going to givea tie in here because we just
had Earth Day. And it justoccurred to me as I was
preparing my notes for this,that paper is is like the
original recycled product in it.

Deacon Gary Rudemil (41:28):
Absolutely.

Tim Stout (41:29):
So tell us about paper. Well, let's start as
effortless.

You know, the paper industry for
many, many years has has beenwoefully poor at marketing
itself. Okay. But if you stoptoday and take a look at the
concept of sustainability,environmental stewardship,
people wanting to ensure that,that the world is here 50 years
from now, right so that theirgrandkids can enjoy it.

(41:57):
Cellulose fiber fiber comes fromtrees, right. And it's, it's a,
it's a natural, raw materialthat you replant you regrow it,
it's replenished. So you don'thave to worry about trees
running out. In fact, today,there are probably gonna get the
number wrong, but it's like 18million more acres more Hector's
printed, planted today withtrees and back in 1990. Okay,

Tim Stout (42:22):
so we're planting a lot of trees.

And if you think about it, any paper
company or forestry company hasto take care of the raw
material. So they are going tobe responsible about planting
and harvesting in a sustainablefashion. There are certification
agencies that validate the thestewardship of the forests by
how the trees are planted andharvested and there's a chain of

(42:46):
custody all the way through thepaper produced on the real the
paper machine for all thatfiber. So from an environmental
standpoint, in terms ofsustainability in terms of
responsibility and stewardshipof the forest chain of custody
for the fiber, water treatment,water goes back into the rivers
clean, and then it comes out inmany places. energy usage,

(43:07):
because integrated paper millsgenerate almost all their energy
through the through burning offthe portions of wood that don't
turn into fiber. And then in theyear 2019 have the millions of
tonnes produced in the UnitedStates. 68% of those tons were
recovered and uses recycledpaper. Wow. So a cellulose fiber
can be reused seven times beforeit loses the strength

(43:29):
properties. So in terms ofsustainability and environmental
stewardship, the paper industryis better position than probably
any other industry in the UnitedStates.

Tim Stout (43:37):
Is this probably recycled?

No, that'd be 100% version right
there. Probably. I can you tellby by the application of the
paper? Oh, gotcha. Yeah, this isa repor graphic paper and unless
there are government mandatesfor recycle usage in this type
of product, there's probably notgoing to be much recycled fiber.

Tim Stout (43:57):
So when we were going through formation, you were
working. It was awesome. Whatwere you guys making there?

So I was VP of operations for that
business unit and I had thefacility in Harrisburg, Kentucky
and in Middletown, Ohio.
Middletown is where we made theparent rolls on to paper
machines shipped and down toHarrisburg was at that time,
just a converting facility. Butthen in 2010 1112, we did a $210
million expansion down there andput a new world class structure

(44:25):
tissue machine down there.
tissue to sites, let's tissuepaper towel. tissue and what's
tissue paper.

Tim Stout (44:36):
What's the tissue paper I

need to explain that to you?

Tim Stout (44:40):
It's not like toilet paper.

tissue is toilet paper or facial.

Tim Stout (44:44):
See there you go. It and paper cool. I mean

if you think about this in your
everyday life, you have paperall around you. You got paper in
that book. We got paper here yougot toilet paper, you got a
microwave popcorn. bags you getfor those people who still look
at newspapers you've got theAmazon cardboard boxes that come
to you you got painters tape,you've got the the baking paper
the parchment of the pan linerthat that the bakers bake on you

(45:13):
got the the pad that the butterpad sits on a piece of paper you
just papers all over the place,but people don't think of that
until they really stopped labelsthere you go so they go to one
side label on that,

you know it's another want to change the paper
professional to a comment thatwe have to bring up Benedictus I
love Bennett, thank

you when we love you, thank you but that

there is issues that I brought up eight years
ago and I say why Benedictus notrun a Bible business for all
schools, all parishes in theDiocese of Lexington, supply
paper supply paper. And Ibrought it up and of course it
never goes anywhere.

Well the margins for that would be very
slim, you know, there wouldn'tbe much money to be made. It's
like school uniforms for yearsBenedictus handle school
uniforms. And then when whenwhen the present ownership team
bought it from the diocese. Atthat time, the clothing had
already moved out and we lookedat taking it back on but there's
no margin there. And and it'shard. It's hard for a struggling

(46:24):
business to take on a hugevolume of low margin. It's just
it's just not worth the headacheof that little margin actually.

Tim Stout (46:33):
So Benedictus. What What should parishes be bad?
What should individuals belooked to be bad for Benedictus

Deacon Gary Rudemill (46:40):
everything that's Catholic everything. And
so let's tell the story ofBenedictus as a

good story.

I think I think this is year 25 if I'm
not mistaken and you're 25 yearsago Jim cloud started Benedictus
over on Richmond Road and thenit moved to more road for a
number of years and moving inour present location on
Southland drive for the diocesemove I think about eight years
ago. And and the Catholic bookand gift store it is not a

(47:07):
retirement plan. It's a toughbusiness. Think of it 10 years
ago in this city there were sixor seven maybe eight Christian
brick and mortar booking giftstores. Okay, at that many

Unknown (47:19):
Yeah.

In November 2019 LifeWay Christian,
close their doors over nearFayette mall. At that point in
time, Benedictus was the lastbrick and mortar Christian type
store. Now we are authenticallyCatholic when when the President
ownership team took it over fromthe diocese in June 28 of 2017.

(47:42):
It was important to us to keepit authentically Catholic. So
and now that LifeWay closed somesome of the non Catholic
churches do come to us forbusiness. So we will, we will we
will stock some communion cupsfor them. But we won't stock a
King James Bible, because that'sgoing to be too confusing for
our Catholic clientele. We are aCatholic store, and we will

(48:02):
service other Christiandenominations. And they do
they'll bring in their Biblesand ask us to emboss the name on
the cover of the Bible, we'll dothat. But you won't you won't
come in and be confused overwhat denomination This store is.
We're authentically Catholic. Soabout 35% of our business comes
from the parishes and the other65% from patrons. And, you know,

(48:26):
we're proud to say in the year2019, we got the store to
breakeven, okay, well, it was amoney loser. But we cut our
costs by over 30%. In the firsttwo, two and a half years, we
cut our cost by over 30%. Weraised our revenue by 15% to get
the breakeven and then herecomes COVID. Right, we've just
gotten to break even Here comesCOVID. So last year was

(48:49):
extremely difficult. And youknow, at our, our January
meeting of our ownership team. Icommented from my perspective
2020 the fact that on Januaryone, we still had a business was
a miracle. It was a miracle.
Because the whole whole timethroughout the year, I'm
thinking boy, how are we goingto survive this year, we have
lost so much business, thecommunion wine business

(49:11):
essentially disappeared. Thechurch candle business cut by
30% you know, so that 35% of ourbusiness? Well, I'll tell you
this. So our total sales from2019 to 2020 dropped 18%. So
we've gotten to breakeven. Andin that one year, our total
sales dropped 18%. But our costdidn't go down. 18% cost is

(49:34):
still there, right? We survivedby managing our costs very
tightly by managing ourinventory very well because you
want to tie a lot of cash up ininventory, and then the PPP
monies those are the reasonsthat we made it and and this
year, you know the start of theyear hasn't been as robust as we
would like church business isstarting to come back. I don't

(49:56):
think we'll ever see thecommunity wind come back. I just
Don't, I don't think people aregoing to feel comfortable
receiving from the cup, youknow, the pressures go to Jesus
in the cup. You know, with COVIDsituation and germs, I just
don't see I just don't see thatthe candle volume we would hope
will come back. The other thingwe started we instituted back in
2018. And through 19 is what wecall peripheral paracels. You

(50:19):
know, for somebody out hereversus somebody at Mary Queen,
Mary Queen person is likely togo to the store somewhere out
here, it's not going to drivethat far. So, as you guys know,
a couple times a year, we werebringing the store here at
weekend masses. And we would dothat for like 19 pair of 211
parishes that are what we callperipheral to Lexington. And

(50:42):
that generated a significantchunk of revenue increase for
us. So that was part of therevenue growth that stopped last
year as well. So we want toreestablish that as people get
comfortable with, with socialinteraction again. So we we, we
think I think last year was amiracle. This year, I think it's

(51:02):
going to start getting better asas churches begin to reopen, and
people's lives begin to recoupand, you know, some people just
don't want to come into thestore, right? They don't want
that social environment. So isthat stuff begins to recover.
We're hopeful that that thefuture of Benedictus is is is
going to be there. Those of theseven the seven couples that

(51:24):
invested invested to keep thisministry open for the diocese,

that's important I want you tell that
story. How Benedictus was aboutto shut down. And as there was
seven business partner want todo by Benedict is not to be
profit. But one to make sure theCatholic and entity Oh identity

(51:52):
or stay I think that's storybase.

There's no there's no retirement plan.
Only one of these stores. It wasa number of months ago I was
talking to one of our suppliersout on the west coast and I
don't talk them into oursuppliers Patrick Khomeini, our
store manager handles all that.
But I was talking to him and hesaid, You know, every month,
another Catholic bookstoresomewhere is closing down, is it
every month, I lose anothercustomer of mine. And the fact

(52:16):
that we're working so hard tokeep it open is an important so
our mission when we took overthe store was to keep it open.
That's it just keep it open. Soeach of us invested a chunk of
cash to buy the store from thediocese and have working
capital. And you know, if thatworking capital runs out, then
we have one of three decisionseither we put in more money. We
look for another buyer or weclose the store. But our

(52:39):
conviction is to keep the storeopen for the Catholic community.
There are many diocese in ourcountry larger than Lexington
that don't have this kind of aministry Exactly. They don't
have it. Now I say ministry, itused to be a ministry of the
diocese. It is no longer whenwhen we bought the store from
the diocese it was no longer aministry ministry but

(53:00):
bishopstoke did give us anecclesial approbation, which
means with with the with thesupport of the Bishop of the
Diocese of Lexington. So we arein ecclesial approbation, which
is in my mind just just we'redoing the same thing. We're just
as

Tim Stout (53:16):
good as being a ministry. We're providing

the same service, the same ministry and
we very much value are ourpatrons in our parishes who
bring their business our way.
We're here for the community.
We're here for the community.
All right. And we all we allfeel very committed to that but
at the seven couples that ownstore, we all feel very
committed to that.

I think it's very important to to talk about
that I think our people need tounderstand this is a ministry
Yeah, you know phone for me, somany time I call Benedictus a
simple you know the the Grotto.
Right The Grotto the beautifulimage of the Virgin Mary wood
there was no mayor was therewould been removed. When we

(53:59):
tried to bring him back therewas a donor offer and instead
tried to search well guess whatI call I call Benedictus. I say
okay, find me a perfect VirginMary image. Okay, at this price
helped me up. You know withinwithin two hours, Patrick call

(54:20):
back and say I have this for youfather to consider. And it's so
beneficial. You know how manypeople always ask me is say I
want to buy some stuff on my mygrandkid First Communion. Do you
know where to recommend as acall Benedictus where manages
the Catholic bookstore? it morethan bookstore everything you

(54:42):
need books and gifts and gifts.
Everything is right there. Nearthe other day. I want to buy a
gift for a friend, you know,celebrate her birthday. And
she's looking for an image ofSaint Francis. I call Patrick of
the Patrick. I need Francisoutdoor BAM Got it I don't want
to go anywhere far I don't wantto get on Amazon I've gone and

(55:05):
hope this image gonna look rightor not you know, but there it
is. I think it's so important

what is and people can call the store
Patrick Elizabeth Joel they knowhow to find anything you want or
they get many outlets to sourcethings. Now if people want to
shop price they'll go buy it offof Amazon but if they want to
support this store so it's herefor this diocese the patronize a
store you know when you come inoff the street you carry the

(55:33):
stench of the world with youwhen you walk through that door
to Benedictus you are in a holyplace exactly.

Unknown (55:38):
You're in a hole totally agree

yes and then the music in the background
since the right atmosphere allthe the holy art around the
Catholic books the crucifix isyou know you're in a holy place

to wet waste located now what how people get
in there

in their car 408 Southland drive,

Tim Stout (55:59):
and you go see Patrick Patrick, but they're

2223 years. Great, great

Unknown (56:06):
guy.

So the store interesting we've got the
Catholic bookstore and as you'relooking at the store to the left
is the liquor store. And to theright is the Muslim food store.
So we're right there and in veryecumenical spirit.

Tim Stout (56:20):
We could do a lot I don't know. I don't know if the
liquor stores ecumenical. That'spretty

good neighbors on both sides are good
neighbors.

how you spell Benedictus

b e and e. d ICT us okay,

Benedict.
Benedict is calm dominated.

We have we have a website it's really
informational. It's not acommercial website is Benedictus
ky calm

Tim Stout (56:45):
Benedictus. ky.com

do you post that for people?

Tim Stout (56:50):
Yes, it is.ky comm we

do put out a flyer every week sometimes
twice a week of Constant Contactflyer if anybody's listening and
they would like to be on ouremail list to receive the flyers
where we do advertise some ofthe items we have special for
that week. Please call the storeleave your email address.

Tim Stout (57:07):
Can I sign up online for that?

Deacon Gary Rudemille (57:09):
Actually, you can if you go to if you go
to the website Benedictus kyCOMM And within five seconds a
pop up pop up, put your emailaddress in that'll come to us
and we'll put you on the emaillist.

Tim Stout (57:23):
Yep, support the Catholic bookstore. I'm as
simple as that books and giftsbook I guess.

You think it's a bookstore But more than that,
it's okay.

And it's interesting books was only about
20% of our business. Yes. Soit's it's everybody always says
Benedict his books but it'sBenedict his books and guests.
We got jewelry, we got homedecor, we got artwork, we got
all the saccharine in and out

Tim Stout (57:45):
right Dallas you got we got ABS I was filthy dirty.
Remember weeks

ago I went to visited it was very beautiful is
what goes

Unknown (57:57):
on shirts.

We do have some we do have some in
stock but if you have to orderthem we'll get them to but you
know my wife and I travel acrossthe United States and we'll go
to cathedrals and shrine to mallis going to their bookstores and
their gift shops and I will tellyou all the places we've been
Benedictus shows better than anyof them.

Totally. I totally agree.

And you know, Judy Paternoster is
listening. She's a volunteer whohelped Patrick decorate the
store and it's always well done.
Well done.

Tim Stout (58:33):
We have had all of our masters out outdoors we've
been through all those seasons.
Dallas just told me last week ofmy album was horrible. I think
he said stuck. They did.

It looks terrible. Needs cleaned.

Tim Stout (58:45):
I got news for you.
So does your

yeah does need clean.

Tim Stout (58:51):
Yeah. So we're gonna patron as Benedictus. Thank you,
Patrick is where I've got we gotall of our apps to start with
right. I took care of us atordination and we have burned a
lot of candles. Because we keeptrying to and they keep bloat
the winkies blowing them out. Sowe know we

have candles still burn at church, votive
candle. We are very faithful.
Support Benedictus.

We host all our hosts the only

problem is that Benedict munition and Stan you
know our sacristan is verydemanding when you sell a seven
day candles Be prepared to serveexactly seven days if six day
three hours a minute, it doesn't

close Matter of fact I've Patrick and
I have had that. Okay, you

do understand.
So we are very diligent on thatmatter,

Tim Stout (59:42):
WW. Benedictus ky calm. Please support the local
Catholic bookstore and gifts.
Betting goodness. Absolutely.
Hey, man, thanks for coming.

Is it over?

Tim Stout (59:54):
You've been going an hour going,

we're gonna get sane of the day.

Tim Stout (59:58):
We're gonna listen.
We'll take a little break. We'reTo save the day and then they
will come back and wrap thingsup. How about that? We'll go
into extended play just for you,Gary.

Unknown (01:00:09):
This is Franciscan media saint of the day for April
23. Today we celebrate St.
George, for all the fame andaffection accorded him as the
Dearly beloved patron saint ofEngland. St. George remains
pretty much a mystery to us. Thestory of his slaying the dragon
rescuing the king's daughter andconverting Libya appears to flow
from an old Italian fable, butthere's every reason to believe

(01:00:33):
that he was a real martyr whosuffered Atlanta, in what is now
part of modern day Israel,probably before the time of
Constantine. It's likely Georgewas a soldier in the Roman army,
who met a violent death afterrefusing to renounce his
Christian faith. Some accountshave his martyrdom in the year
307. It may be momentarilydisappointing to learn that

(01:00:55):
today st didn't as best as wecan tell, attack a menacing
dragon on behalf of a damsel indistress, and then convert the
entire country. But it's farmore important to learn that he
was willing to pay the supremeprice through martyrdom to
follow Christ. Whether it's thelegendary saint or the real one.
St. George has captured heartsand minds far beyond England.

(01:01:17):
He's also the patron saint ofPortugal, Germany, Aragon,
Genoa, and Venice. There's moreabout the saints along with
inspiration and Catholicresources at our website, Saint
of the day.org from Franciscanmedia. This has been st of the
day.

Tim Stout (01:01:37):
St. George Slayer of dragons Shamoon that's pretty
cool, man. Yes. I mean, whatother churches something like
that.

Dallas Kelley (01:01:49):
Dragon Slayer dragon

Fr. Linh Nguyen (01:01:50):
slayer? It's,

Tim Stout (01:01:51):
it's good to be. It's good to be Catholic, right?

Oh, sure is.

Tim Stout (01:01:56):
Hey, we got one other thing. Well, we'll come back to
you just second Gary, Giga punchup a camera. With video. This is
the phishing report. Let's seehow this let's see how this
goes. Can we hear that?

(01:02:18):
You hear that? You're not hearthat.
This is the fishing report.
We're gonna we're gonna get itdown to Dallas is just talking
right now.

Musician (01:02:35):
I'm on the road trip.

Unknown (01:02:38):
This Morning.

Good Morning chores feed the dog. Got that
gas very well we're here at thelake or right outside the lake.
I must stop at this local smallgrocery store to get me some
minnows get them get a thing ofmetal Velma mostly crappy fish

(01:03:05):
today, but it's beautifulmorning. Sunrise coming up at
that sunrise. It's beautiful.
Going to have a great day at thelake. Do some crop efficient.
And I'll check in once I'm inthe lake. Well, we made it to
the lake to bounce 730 I'll getstarted here in a second. Hope

(01:03:26):
you have a good day and I'llreport back. talk to y'all in a
bit.

Tim Stout (01:03:51):
Dallas we need to work on your video. We need to
work on your video skills.

My fishing skills to think this one might be a
keeper. I'll check back in in afew minutes. Again, caught a
decent bass,

good bass.

We try to get farther away because you don't
want to go with content

that's too small to keep us in.

That one is 16 now 16 but conedison Bass my
letter go

You have to let it go that decent too small.
That's 14 inches

14 1214 and imagine where we're coasting in
aveline and to put the boat onthe trailer. Are you by
yourself? About 15 it's hard tonot just an okay day. Nice day
to be out on the lake though.
We'll talk when we get to thetop of the ramp that was that

(01:04:54):
was it That was this morning.
That was for

Tim Stout (01:05:03):
Jason Berry. That was the

that was a real catch many that but last week we
called about one to one with Tamwould call. I don't know how
many we got 15 or 20, somethinglike that one. And then a few
days before that I called 75. So

Unknown (01:05:19):
yeah,

you give me five. I don't know where to put
it.

You don't know what you did with it.

I'm still looking for it.

You're probably in your trunk or the back of
your truck. You'll be fine. Justfollow the smell.

Tim Stout (01:05:39):
Hey, Gary, thanks for coming on. We're gonna have you
back. And maybe we can work outthe same with the Goddess. She
talked about it. Like that's a Ithink it's a great idea. You
know, they bring in goodspeakers. Yes, they do. I know
that they we might build one ofthose people on the show. When
we take the show on road, do apre recording or something like
that. I think it's a great idea.
But we'll have you back to.

Deacon Gary Rudemiller (01:06:01):
That's a lot of fun.

Tim Stout (01:06:02):
Yeah. We want to hear how your new pastor is doing.
Yes. Yeah. So let's see if hetouched your Spanish speaking
requirements down a little bit.
Hey, if you're watching this, weasked you to go to ssF j.org to
support our ministry. We wantyou to support Benedictus
Benedict sky.com. But go to ssFj.org to support our ministry.

(01:06:25):
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you'd like what you hear. Hey,if you want to re listen to it,
let's do it on your favoritepodcast app. What's your
favorite podcast app? Cool me?
Yeah. Do you listen to podcast?

Unknown (01:06:59):
I do.

Tim Stout (01:07:01):
Do you use iTunes?

No. Always let people send it to me

Tim Stout (01:07:04):
Spotify, Spotify, iTunes, Amazon music. Were on
all of them. So you're you'regoing to be immortalized?
Remember, we've only had oneshow that we had to take off the
air and that was because of anFBI agent. We had to take that
off. So hey, would you do us afavor? Yes, sir. Would you give

(01:07:25):
us a blessing to set us on ourway

Unknown (01:07:27):
up beyond

Deacon Gary Rudemiller (01:07:29):
the name of the Father in the son of the
Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen.
Heavenly Father, all that isgood comes from you. inspire us
with the Holy Spirit. So that wecan be good witnesses,
courageous witnesses, faithfulwitnesses to a world in such
desperate need of good Christianvalues. Help us to be like St.
George, the dragon slayer as weface the dragons of our world

(01:07:50):
today. Give us your inspiration.
And help us to live the lifethat you've called us to live.
Help us to accept the vocationto which you called us. And in
your name. I bless the Father,Son, the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Amen.

Tim Stout (01:08:06):
Great show guys.
until two weeks from now, I'mDeacon Tim.

I'm taking Dallas I'm falling. When

Unknown (01:08:12):
are you? Um, Deacon Gary.

Tim Stout (01:08:13):
taken care of Rudy Miller. Thanks again.

Unknown (01:08:15):
Thank you.

Did you ever stop and think why I spent too much time
skating. I don't know a singlething that I haven't noticed.
When I see you my heart startsracing, but I don't know if the

(01:08:49):
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