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October 3, 2020 61 mins

The Deacons sat down with Fr. Charles Howell, pastor of Good Shepherd Catholic Church to discuss Christ in My Home, a new ministry starting at SSFJ and Good Shepherd this weekend. We talked about the reason behind the ministry and how every family can participate. It was a great discussion and we think you will enjoy it.

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Unknown (00:12):
Did you ever stop getting ready?
Maybe.
I don't know a single thing thatI haven't noticed. When I see

(00:32):
you my heart starts racing. Idon't know if the light is
chasing.

Fr. Charles Howell (00:40):
Today is October 2 2020, Friday of the
26th week in Ordinary Time, andyou are tuned into deacons,
discussions and drinks.

Unknown (01:11):
I don't know.

Fr. Charles Howell (01:19):
Good evening, everybody and welcome
to another episode of deaconsdiscussions and drinks. I'm
diggin Tim Stout. I'm digginDallas killing by the linguine.
And we're live. We're not reallywe're not really like. We're
back in the studio card homeafter week off second episode in
a row where we have to priestand four deacons in the studio.

(01:42):
That's a riddle. We'll let youfigure that out. Tonight. We
have father Charles Howe with ustonight. Welcome to the show
father Charles.

Unknown (01:48):
Blank on the job. And I say

Fr. Charles Howell (01:50):
here, pastor at Good Shepherd in Frankfort.
Oh, neighbor. Yeah, our closeneighbor. Oh, good. Good
Neighbor. Actually. He actuallydid a wedding for one of our
expeditioners past parishioners.
This past weekend. Yeah, thepearls. Yeah. I didn't see you
at the reception.
No, I wasn't there right intoanother mass.

(02:12):
That's all good. It was a it wasa good wedding from what we
watched on live stream. So youlive stream the wedding too. So
good. We were just talking aboutbefore the show that live stream
is the way to go in the worldtoday for not just Catholic
churches, but churches ingeneral. Yeah. A good a good
tool for evangelization. So. Sowe're back in the studio took a
week off everybody rechargedrejuvenated by Lynn Dallas.

Unknown (02:36):
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Fr. Charles Howell (02:38):
It was just two weeks ago on this very show
are falling late admitted thathe's been on vacation since
COVID. Started with with onlyone mass. So we had, we have
that record recording and wewill be doing a little bit of a
cut that will be postedperiodically so people can see
that. We should send that to thebishop.

Unknown (02:57):
Oh, he know that. He knows it. And he glad.

Fr. Charles Howell (03:00):
He's glad so. So you're rejuvenated. Well,
how about follow Charles? Howare you having masses are you
doing on a weekend?
Right now? One, two, sometimesfour, but usually three. See?
Take. Take a lesson there.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (03:13):
Yeah, but he's not dealing with call dome
mindset. Set up put down put upwith Deacon Tim. And Steve
friends cameraman.

Fr. Charles Howell (03:26):
I have to deal with a legislator.
God help us all. God bless you.
Yeah. That's a good segue intocurrent events. I'll start the
train wreck that was inside of adumpster fire was the debate
this past week. Can we justcancel the rest of them

Dallas Kelley (03:43):
are expensive just and I'm all for

Fr. Charles Howell (03:47):
what what a disaster. And you know, I think
that coming through this nextfew weeks, we're gonna hear a
lot about with the Supreme Courtnomination being Catholic and
Joe Biden being Catholic, we'regonna see a lot of Catholicism

Unknown (04:02):
30 started YouTube the day of death. I'm like, Whoa,
whoa, whoa, a lot of stuff. Alot of stuffs coming out
already. Yeah.

Fr. Charles Howell (04:07):
So that's kind of my current event. I saw
an article or letter actually.
article from chiplet chipletbasically talking about, you
know, an attack on Catholicismwas attack on all of us.
However, however it comesespecially, you know, from what
I've read about this nominee,she's regardless of what you

(04:28):
think about her political views,but her Catholicism and her her
definition of family and whatshe's done, she seems like a
person of great faith and greatcharacter. So it'll be
interesting to see how that allkind of plays out in the media.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (04:42):
Always ugly.

Fr. Charles Howell (04:43):
No, it won't be pretty. It'll be ugly for

Fr. Linh Nguyen (04:45):
sure. Ugly already. Some of the comment.
They don't even know her. Andjust because she is a devout
Catholic boy. It cut to the Iheard one comment

Dallas Kelley (04:57):
say that we were going to say What it's like to
be cutting up on Mother Teresa?
Hmm. Oh, yeah. You know, so howwould that go over? You know, so
we'll have to see.

Fr. Charles Howell (05:09):
Yeah, she belongs to a group. Something
praise, I can't remember whatthe exact name of the group was.
But, you know, they're diggingdeep. They're gonna dig deep.

Unknown (05:19):
And the new fear that I recently heard, I thought I
hadn't really reflected on Ithought, yeah, you're right.
majority,

Fr. Charles Howell (05:25):
currently with the Supreme Court is
Catholic, and be like, Oh, no,Catholics are taken over now.
Like, wow, that's not what ouragenda is, by no means. No. And
you can see the diversity of theCatholics on the on the Supreme
Court, the diversity in theCatholicism in practice
Catholicism today,

Unknown (05:42):
I gave it a little bit of thought, but I didn't get
thinking, Well, why is thatperhaps like that? Well, I
guess, in the sense, it's ablessing. I don't know what you
want to call it like that. Butthe sense of the stress that we
as Catholics have put on foreducation, and formation. And so
that's given people ofethnicities, galore. I don't
care what race we are like that.
For those who had theopportunity to have that great
Catholic education. I think thatgives you an open door to say,

(06:05):
wow, you know, to find thehigher ladders of education and
opportunity, perhaps a hope. Andthat means for the poor, for the
rich for the white, black.
Anybody, hopefully, but gettingpeople in the Catholic
education. I think that's,that's one of the things I
thought that might be aconnection there to those

Fr. Charles Howell (06:19):
as well.
Absolutely. I think COVID hasdone that as well. We were
talking about this our financemeeting this past week about a
school enrollment and the impactof of that on on Catholic
teaching or Catholic educationas a result, you know, we our
enrollment, Spike them. I don'tknow how to. So, you know,

Unknown (06:38):
they haven't registered new one yet.

Fr. Charles Howell (06:40):
Yeah. And I think the longer that it goes on
that people don't don't have asense that the public schools
are going to go back to more,you'll probably pick

Dallas Kelley (06:49):
up and it's up to us to keep them what is our
enrollment now? Do you know?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (06:51):
Yep, that 137 now, we were expecting only
survive at 92.

Tim Stout (06:58):
So that's a

Unknown (06:59):
that's a great thing.
bigger numbers be way low, too.
I was figuring like, we'll belucky to get 60 we're way over
that. Yeah. So

Fr. Linh Nguyen (07:08):
but it's wonderful though. The the kids
that on public school join us.
Now solid, they loved it. Theylove being here with us. They
love the religion, the livelydiscussion in religion class,
they bring an interestingperspective. You know, some of
them don't go to church at allthat Oh, yeah.

Dallas Kelley (07:33):
Like here, they do now, though, they do.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (07:36):
Oh, yeah, tried to do mass. I don't know what
you're doing over there. Overhere, we break them up. We've
divided Middle School. And thenone in four didn't afford, I
don't know, be interesting. Oneof the segment of the group that
I celebrating is kindergarten,and first grade. But they don't
receive Communion.

Tim Stout (07:58):
Good luck with that.

Fr. Charles Howell (08:01):
Play Marvel, nice for that

Dallas Kelley (08:05):
age range. But our middle school is here on
site, and the rest is overthere. So he's got to go back
and forth, he goes back andforth,

Fr. Charles Howell (08:13):
which is a great use of this campus. I
mean, you know, that I'vewritten out here a couple times,
to the studio just droppedsomething, I'll pick something
up. And to see the grades out onthe lawn, obviously, that'll
change with the weather. But,you know, the outside getting
outside the space drop off, Ithink is better here, too.
There's just a lot of benefitsto be in here. And, you know,

(08:34):
God's blessed us with thisfacility and using it and now
we've been interested to try toevangelize to people that are
some people that are on church,right. I mean, so.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (08:44):
So this, you know, I've been preaching about
COVID is the positive of COVID.
You know, there are a lot ofpositive, bring the photos, you
know, don't caught up with allthe negativity and the anxiety
and fear but that capture thepositive. Today we celebrate
great saying great, you know,Teresa, you know, last year, she

(09:05):
kept to the positive of God. Andand, you know, that's why I've
been preaching about thepositive of good things. It's
good. Both of a very motivating.

Fr. Charles Howell (09:20):
You pretend this weekend

Unknown (09:21):
that you Oh,

Fr. Charles Howell (09:24):
yeah, you just told me I had a first
communion, baptism, baptism andthe blessing of the animals to
throw into the homily. So Idecided just to make my homily
ultra short think about thebanquet, and then you guys
bought the banquet, right? No,it's the vineyard, the vineyard.
Yeah. And we better be producinggood fruit. That's the last

(09:45):
statement as well. We better beproducing good fruit. So that's
what I preach on. Anyway, we'llsee. I'm gonna give you plenty
of time, do your your baptismwherever on these grounds you
want to go. You just need to letthe cameraman know beforehand so
he can cover whatever you'regonna do. So garnavich Dallas.

Dallas Kelley (10:03):
Well, I was gonna my current event was gonna be
the Cincinnati Reds but that'snot much of a current event they
finally make the postseason andKane score run in 23 innings
but, uh two games 23 innings noruns yeah the first game win 13
ain't no didn't score around inthe first game didn't go round
second game, but

Fr. Linh Nguyen (10:23):
it's eight years since a playoff.

Dallas Kelley (10:25):
It's been a while. It's been so many years.
I forget. I think

Fr. Charles Howell (10:29):
it's kind of like being a Bengals fan. Right.

Dallas Kelley (10:33):
And I have a Bengals fan too. Steve, how
about you over? He's a bangleand well, they didn't lose last
time they tired. Right?

Fr. Charles Howell (10:41):
Like so it was that was a miracle. They
tied? Oh, two and one. So well,then how about you? Kind of it?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (10:49):
Well, I guess it can be a current event. You
know, I brought father charhere. Why don't the event um you
know, the the program that thatwe I hate the word use a
program, the ministry, we wantto introduce a good father john,
I, we we our parents actually doa lot of thing together. Because

(11:10):
we have we share we our brotherin our support. We ordained Lily
within we were in seminary atthe same time, we do a lot of
crazy thing together. But weenjoy each other. And so because
of the nature of the diocese,it's a missionary diocese,
oftentimes, we exhaust so muchresources, and try to compete
with each other. But instead ofthat we tried to share with each

(11:32):
other like our youth minister,we share Catherine Catherine
Coleman, and we share in thatministry. And so during this
covid her, you know, do he and Iwere talking about, you know,
what else can we do that expandthis ministry? So one of the
things we came up with Christ inmy home. So basically a

(11:54):
reflection. Some of you probablyhear, you know, saw on our
website and on YouTube andFacebook and see that is a
introduction of a gospel, um,with a few questions for the
family to get together duringthat week to think about and
reflect about. And it's the wayto introduce Ministry of

(12:17):
clergymen that mean you guys areall involved, but you don't know
that yet.

Dallas Kelley (12:20):
But well, you told us about five minutes
before we went on the air. So

Fr. Charles Howell (12:23):
there you go. We're we're so excited. So
we didn't have anything else todo. We were like, we were
getting ready to shovel snow.
Oh, we get this to this great

Fr. Linh Nguyen (12:35):
short video.
But you know, he and I weretalking about that it the the
conflict, but not a conflict ofdisappointment. Many of our
young people, especially in St.
JOHN, at normal, Good Shepherd,they go to Catholic school. But
they don't go to church onSunday,

Unknown (12:55):
though. Bella Lin and I were talking when a few weeks
ago or something like that. AndI had this slapping a wake up
experience. And I admit, be thefirst to admit, I'm not the
brightest bulb on the Christmastree. I'm pretty slowly getting
some stuff. But I remember onetime at Good Shepherd school as
toward the end of school. Andthe kids were had their last
hurrah, last mass andgraduation, stuff like that. And

(13:16):
when the kids was leaving a veryfaithful, you know, kids from
the wonderful family stuff likethat. And he left he said,
Father, see ya see in August.
And I pausedI said, See you in August. Where
are you going? You're going outof town, you move in, you're
going to travel. Now, School'sout. He says, I'm I'm not gonna
see you all summer long. You'renot traveling, no schools that

(13:42):
we don't go to Mass on Sundays.
And it was like, poured coldwater on me thinking, Wow, what
a reality I need to catch upwith the times. And that was
some of the realities I foundout our Catholic families are
living with I thought, whoa, howdo we build that bridge with
them? How do we connect withthem? And that's the reality

(14:04):
this family this child was well,we only go to Mass on Thursday,
Sunday, but mass you go to andit's a shame to hear some of the
kids in school say what nice togo to Tuesday.

Fr. Charles Howell (14:15):
Tuesday, something's wrong. You're
looking for a time and they'regiving you a day. Right? That's
a problem for sure. I knowthere's a there's a head coach
that doesn't go to church onSunday. We won't talk about
that.
Unless I'm glad they're going tomass period. Right?

Unknown (14:32):
Absolutely. We'll knock that but just kind of looking at
the imminence and thepreeminence I should say that
the Lord's day Sunday when weall are invited to do that.
Unless we just Catholic he doescome together fulfill your
obligation as best you can.

Fr. Charles Howell (14:46):
Yeah, I mean, do you what do you think
the both of you What do youthink the reason behind that is
I mean is obviously the parentsare making a sacrifice to send
their kids to to Catholicschool. Most of them are
Catholic, but not all of them.
But most of Catholic yet theydon't practice their faith on
Sunday, but they're willing tomake the sacrifice of the cost
associated with Catholiceducation. Where's the

(15:06):
disconnect there,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (15:09):
but the disconnection it has to do with
they most of them have beenformed in the Catholic
education. Um, the disjoint isthat they don't associate with
education, in tune with asacrament of the life of the
church. And so, they are theproduct of the baby boom, and
now they are the children of thebaby boom. And so they

(15:34):
themselves, they themselvesnever have a chance to really
deeply catechized I think one ofthe fotor, if you will, I don't
know if I the drive comment onthat. A Vatican two. But again,
two, came out so aggressivelyabout the nature of the church,
but never have a chance toreally catechize people agree

(15:57):
evolve into it. And sotherefore, there is this joint,
what you your experience is nodifferent than what I
experience. You know, we haveschool activity, you know, they
require them in the church, theydon't go the church. Um, even
with CCD,

Fr. Charles Howell (16:14):
yeah, you know, what, whatever, that last
year, you had a real issue withseveral families that, yeah,
just work on the church or

Fr. Linh Nguyen (16:21):
the church.
And, and there was a time I wastrying to not matter of church,
okay, not going to church forthat thing. So I would often
adult formation in the same timewith the CCD in conjunction. So
while the kid in school, I hopeto get the parents there, to
learn something as well, till Iwas outside, you know, me, you

(16:43):
know, I poke on to them, andsome of them as a father. This
is only time I got, you know, todo some running. And they meant
it. They don't see, take theopportunity to learn with the
kids. It's Sunday man, Sam thingat math, school math on Tuesday

(17:04):
for us. I asked the kids, youknow, how many of you are going
to mass on Saturday night andSunday are not going to third of
them raise their hand. It justblow

Fr. Charles Howell (17:22):
my mind. And part of that culture, culture
driven to right because now itused to be that you wouldn't
have soccer games or sports orathletics or competition, that's

Unknown (17:30):
my angle right there.
Good competition in the sense ofalso scholarships, you're good
at athletics, you're good chanceyou're gonna get a scholarship
to go to college. So it's, it'sbegins early in elementary,
middle school, and in the highschool, and hopefully, in the
college, you're going to get ascholarship. So there's a
temptation that said, say, Man,that's a big temptation to say,

(17:50):
maybe get a scholarship to get agreat education as college
education if you're a good,athletic, you know, athletic
person. Like, that's a realtemptation. I think for a lot of
us have to face that I thinkparents had to face too, you
know,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (18:03):
but the issue, I think it's all begin with the
parents themselves. You know,right now was Bishop bedroom,
one side, we are threegeneration behind in character
formation three generations. Soin other words, if we need to
capture to strengthen the natureof the church, we should begin
kids in middle school right now.
They will recover the CatholicChurch. You know, my generation,

(18:26):
our

Fr. Charles Howell (18:29):
generation has said that again, explain
that,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (18:31):
again. We are three generations loss
information, of the nature ofthe church.

Fr. Charles Howell (18:39):
So our generations done the shot. Okay,
can't recapture

Fr. Linh Nguyen (18:42):
can't recapture, we do our best, you
know, God will do God miracle,you know, right. But truly, for
the church formation point ofview, we have to begin with kids
in middle school. That is,that's when we begin right now,
for the next 20 years. 30 yearsdown the road. I

Unknown (19:00):
remember I was in seminary with one of my liturgy
professors. And he saidsomething that stuck with me, I
thought, Wow, it's prettyradical statement he made and it
really struck with me because Icame into full communion with
the Catholic Church from a wholedifferent background when he
said that I agree with you. Yes,this is what he said. He said,
renewal will come back to theCatholic Church, when we begin

(19:23):
and renew Sunday school onSundays,

Fr. Charles Howell (19:27):
people at home, and I was like, amen.

Unknown (19:32):
And that's radical to think I have to come to mass and
spend how much time at church.
And so if we looked at thepossibility, this is a radical
idea, but look at thepossibility of having formation
for the entire Parish, adult,and our youth and children and
then go into mass. That's what Iwas raised with. And that's the
only way I knew

Fr. Charles Howell (19:52):
how to do it. But just what's your faith?

Unknown (19:54):
background? I was raised in Southern Baptist,
Pentecostal church afterwards.
Same thing though. There's an Xdictation that you will come to
Sunday school, you will readyour Bible have your lesson
ready, and the head and then yougo into the the assembly of
worshiping God together withthat same lesson. And it just
all connected. And it's like andhe left. So there was a
sacrifice of probably two hourson Sunday, at least two hours,
two hours, 10 minutes and likethat for family, then you all

(20:17):
went out to breakfast or dinnertogether. And it continued on
and for.

Fr. Charles Howell (20:21):
And then sometimes you came back Sunday
night,

Unknown (20:22):
Sunday night, and then Wednesday night. So it was a
lifestyle of breathing. That'swhat he did, you know, but
at least is that at least Sundayschool, I think if we could do
that,and make that commitment both on
the parish level. And I thinkanother thing is, I think for us
as clergy, I know for me, I canspeak to that. Again, I'm not
the brightest bulb on the tree.

(20:43):
But it takes me a while to look.
And I remember one time I wastalking to another kid one time
and and we were talking aboutsomething to do and trying to
make this very it was asacramental moment. Let's put it
that way. Okay. was asacramental moment. And I was
talking about so what can we doperhaps repentance here. And I
suggested to this young man, Isaid, What So what? So for your

(21:04):
penance, how much you take thetrash out after dinner and help
mom set the table that eveningfor dinner? And he looked at me
like me talking aboutmice, he just didn't connect?
And I said, Can you help me outwhen he said, No.

(21:25):
We don't need around the dinnertable.
Where do you eat?

Fr. Charles Howell (21:30):
At the foot of my bed,

Unknown (21:33):
the television on by myself?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (21:36):
I get it. Man, I gotta get up today. This is
what

Unknown (21:39):
your family really is now. And this is a reality some
of the kids are living in. Sohere we're trying to fit a
square peg into a round holeabout church Sunday obligation,
Sunday school. And I think oneof the things we really have to
do is enter into the realm ofwhere the nuclear family is
today from clergy, but half andsay, let us learn what's going
on out there. And then from thatpoint, we get a better

(22:00):
understanding empathicallyhopefully, and then say now, how
do we do this with churchteaching sacred tradition,
things like that, and find a newway of matching these two
things.

Fr. Charles Howell (22:09):
That's a it's a good point. And it's
actually it's interesting thatyou said that because of a
completely differentperspective. My trainer was
telling me that most people thatcome to him, and he helps with
their diets don't eat around thetable either. So people when
they have trouble controllingwhat they ate, they take their
food, they go to their bedroom,they get in front of the TV. And

(22:31):
it's the sense of entertainmentreally, is what really what
we're talking about. It's howpeople's minds are expanded, not
based on being a family, butbeing on what's in front of the
screen in front of them and howthey're being entertained is

Unknown (22:45):
so different. And I'm not saying it's just different
from when I weigh errors, right?
Oh, absolutely. Yes. My dad wasmilitary guy. This is what
happened in our family when Igrew up. When dinnertime came it
was 6pm never failed. 6pm dadwanted dinner on the table at
6pm. all eight of us in thefamily gathered. Devi went off
the phone went off the hook. Hesaid prayer. We had dinner. We

(23:05):
talked we shared, we laughed, wefought and everything.
Afterwards, dad would finish.
After dessert. He turned hischair around and he turned on
uncle Walter and watch WalterCronkite in the news. And he had
to come to the table with yourhands clean. No bare bare
chested he had to have a clean tshirt on no caps at the table. I

(23:28):
think you know, wow, that's thegeneration I grew up in. And I
think it doesn't

Fr. Charles Howell (23:32):
work today.
But it sounds pretty good. Yeah,it really does. It sounds really
good. I mean, that's I mean,that's

Dallas Kelley (23:37):
some of the old shows the The Brady Bunch is the
lever to be that's why they'reso popular. The Andy Griffith
Yeah. People want that. Youknow, it looks so good, but good
luck. Good luck.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (23:51):
Let me hold that thought bigger I need we
need to promote out of ministry.
Absolutely get that is thereason why Christ in my home is
about that. It's a good peopleopportunity. It'll be good COVID
I you know, I've been tellingyou guys, I love to promote
COVID not because of thepandemic

Fr. Charles Howell (24:11):
because you're a survivor,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (24:12):
but I'm a survivor. I am so via COVID. I
would have showed. But the pointis, so many people have spent
time together with bickering,but how wonderful it is to have
a biblical, a gospel for thefamily. Like I say we talked
about that we promoted what is afamily unit not farming dad and

(24:32):
kids, single mother, you know, aguardian grandmother with
somebody you know, somebody livein the same family blended
family can use this very simplereflection. And it's just
valuable sacred time to thinkabout God. Not what we would do
next. What on television. Whatare we going to eat? You know

(24:56):
who the hell is Trump Who thehell is Biden, but it's about
God, I think

Unknown (25:02):
on that level, what sutherlands talking about, and
what I mean, this is my buzzwordfor the theology of Pope
Francis, as perplexes. That maybe for a lot of people, like I
can't figure what this guy'sdoing or what he says and things
like that. The word that I cameup with, maybe it's out three
before, but it's a theology ofencounter ism, a theology of
encounter ism. And here it is,in one sentence, meet a person

(25:25):
where they are not where I wantthem to be. First, that's the
first step. And so in Christ inour home, that's what we hope to
do is to meet the family, theperson, individual couple,
whatever the situation may meethim where they are. But here's
what Jesus always did, becausehe did that. He always met a
person, right where they were,right where they are in the

(25:47):
scriptures. Here's the key. Henever left them there. Something
different happened

Tim Stout (25:54):
to him, we hope to do he brought him with him. Right?

Unknown (25:57):
So meet the family meet the individual through Christ in
my home, right where they are,and the sense of okay, but the
hope and the challenges, here'sa question I thought, not gonna
leave you where you are. AndJesus isn't one thing,

Tim Stout (26:08):
right? That's good.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (26:11):
The hope is with this pro program, no.
Ministry ministry is one of thefamily fine to the spirit that
finds something together. Thebest place to bring that up and
furthermore, it's a Eucharist ason Sunday. Take each other to
Sunday Mass. You know, an awfulfreakin thanks and praise to

(26:34):
Jesus. Not hard, you know. So,the hope that that this ministry
is excitement for openingparochial school, public school.
Elders, deacons, families,priests, families, you know, TV

(26:55):
guys, families, you know, all ofus can participate in this
short, it's not long. What's thevideo, share the reflection
questions, and think about it dosomething for each other
sometime.

Dallas Kelley (27:08):
Oh, once the punch, we record to refresh and
how is it sent out? I mean, justthrough the through the
facebook, facebook, socialmedia, basically everything
we've been used.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (27:21):
And then there'll be questions posted on
the website that Pamela candownload it. And that's another
thing that as was wonderful.
Father char his parents offeredto us this first year service is
the forms. A is a anorganization that can download
for movies, kind of chemicalformation, theology, from

(27:42):
preschool, first grade, and all.
So the family can actuallydownload that

Unknown (27:51):
and share it anywhere and anywhere in the world can
download it and share it andeight, Southeast Asia, nine
states have something like this.
So

Fr. Linh Nguyen (27:57):
with this with this ministry is wonderful is
that if Dallas decide to get onthe boat to go bass fishing with
Sherry, and sometimes john, youknow,

Fr. Charles Howell (28:09):
these two people know that to say, just
two people in the boat. He couldhe could I mean, it's true,
though. I mean, right? Ourfamilies are on the go. Right?
They they spend not as much timeat home. I mean, like you were
talking about the way you'reraised. There's just people are
not as they are now duringCOVID. But pre COVID, and post

(28:31):
COVID they just weren't in theirhomes that much. They weren't
spending time together. Theyweren't in a position to to
share that. And I think, youknow, if, if we can do set this
up so that they can do itmobile? Yep, that's gonna be

Fr. Linh Nguyen (28:42):
very mobile.
Yeah. Anytime, anywhere to go.
The family can sit down, half anhour together. Even in a fast
food restaurant. You can watchon your iPhone and talk about it
before you eat. jello.

Unknown (28:56):
The quick format is basically the presenter reads
the gospel for the comingSunday. And then a brief
reflection, not even a homily.
It's just a brief reflection.
And then kind of at the endsomething to stimulate your
imagination and maybe like ahomework assignment, an action
task, try this in your family.
And it's just simple, easy stuffthat could say, oh, let's apply

(29:16):
the gospel this week. And thenyou come to mass already having
heard it already. Havingpracticed it in some ways, you
can imagine. Oh, wow, this makesa whole lot more sense. Now on
Sunday morning or Saturdayevening.

Fr. Charles Howell (29:28):
I agree with that. If you if, if if I would
have known that growing up myface might have been a little
bit deeper if I would haveprepared, prepared for Sunday,
you know, you because you rollin people, the vast majority
people roll in and they may ormay not hear what you're saying
up there. Right. So I agree. Ithink it's a it's a good, a
good, good practice to be infront of it instead of the other

(29:49):
way of giving the reflection forthe previous Sunday. I like that
idea. Who came up with that

Unknown (29:53):
idea. kind of come

Fr. Linh Nguyen (29:54):
together. We kind of rub back and forth be
talking about you know, ColvinAnd then you know everybody
alone and spend a lot of timetogether and then people go to
Mass and people say goodbyes bythe char I'll see you in August.

Unknown (30:12):
And by the lynah we agreed that think the words that
we keep coming up with is strikewhen the iron is hot, right. And
the pandemic is made dire not

Fr. Charles Howell (30:21):
know how to no doubt about it was looking.
You got to YouTube stuff you gotto find that is what the
Catholic one of the otherCatholic podcasts think I shared
this with you a couple weeksago. If the church has a rainy
day fund, if your parish has arainy day fund, it is time to
spend it now on technology toget in front of people that no
reason to hold on to it. Nowthis is this is what we've been

(30:43):
waiting for.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (30:44):
I suppose I have a rich Deacon. Awesome.
Where's he it? He I'm lookingat? This is no it's not what
thank you for your car.

Fr. Charles Howell (30:54):
is only half mine is huge here. Your rich
camera. But you know, we're bothrich Steve.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (31:02):
This place came about was you know, Deacon Tim
have this idea. And Steve, youknow, he's professional, he will
literally for the bangles. Andbecause he can involve in that.
So all this beautiful equipment.
He turned to Jesus. And there weare. And so now we have a
setting that tried to engage andjust no different than what what

(31:24):
you and I, and others Catherineand Laura involved in this and
try to break this thing open andand see how the Holy Spirit lead
us. This calls Greek forcreativity. Hmm,

Unknown (31:37):
very creative.
Everyone's got to find theircreative vein or strike it
somehow and say now's the timeto do it.

Fr. Charles Howell (31:44):
Yeah, when we thought of this. This I mean
to do our first episode wasDallas was in his car, and I was
at my house. And that was

Fr. Linh Nguyen (31:50):
Oh, I remember that.

Fr. Charles Howell (31:53):
It was it was it was kind of interesting,
though. It didn't evolve prettyquickly from there. Right? So
here we are not 20. I would say20. This is our 24th episode,
Episode 24th episode, but wetook a couple weeks off in
there, but we so we've been atit half a year. I mean, we'd
never thought Steve and I weretalking about this before. At
that thought I'd be sitting herein October, doing a podcast on a

(32:17):
Thursday night. It is Thursdaynight here. You'll be watching
this

Dallas Kelley (32:20):
on Friday. I mean, like most people, we
thought COVID be over in acouple of months.

Fr. Charles Howell (32:24):
And Originally, it was something
that we wanted to kind of, Iguess when our parish a few
years ago we did, we didsomething called doctrine and
drinks to kind of tailored aftertheology on tap. We didn't want
pay the licensing fee. So, youknow, everybody in the church
gets their licensing fee. So wewe thought about that. And then

(32:45):
originally we said deacons,discussions and doctrine. And we
started the gate guest so whatbetter way to invite a guest to
have a drink. Welcome them. Andso it wasn't always about
doctrine. It was a little bitabout stories, you know, faith
journeys, current events anddoctrine. And and I really think

(33:07):
well as we continue this, Ithink we all agree we're going
to continue this for theforeseeable future anyway, but
the doctrine is an importantpart of that because one of the
things with all of our gueststhat we hear quite a bit is that
we haven't catechized and yourkit what you're saying three
generations and it's a problemyou know, and you can never
really make it up you can't everreally get there but doesn't

(33:29):
mean you give up It doesn't meanyou stop you got to meet people
where they're at have thatencounter. So very well said no,
what's the first episode

Fr. Linh Nguyen (33:38):
of gonna be we the family will receive this
weekend on the October 4 to bepaid for the October 11 so come
in the afternoon or something

Unknown (33:50):
okay,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (33:50):
yeah, Father char will be the first episode

Unknown (33:53):
I just videoed mine today. Just video yesterday
Sunday of Ordinary and talkingabout the great banquet the king
throws where his son and eventhrows one of the guests out

Fr. Charles Howell (34:06):
what does that mean? It's not a party till
somebody gets thrown. Who's gotnumber two?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (34:12):
I think is me.
Okay.

Fr. Charles Howell (34:15):
And so we're scheduled somewhere Oh,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (34:16):
you want to schedule Don't worry I hope I'm
not oh well don't wait

Dallas Kelley (34:19):
for the day before

Fr. Linh Nguyen (34:20):
Well, you will you know there'll be

Unknown (34:22):
a large putting together a schedule and

Fr. Charles Howell (34:24):
as long as Laura is in charge of it it will
be it'll kind of be like thisbaptism this weekend. Who's
gonna get the passcode candle orthe font or you know who's in
charge of that will happen okaywith you? I thought we're not in
church anymore.

Unknown (34:42):
And one more thing we're looking at too is it'll be
translated into Spanish for usto be a dubbed presentations
that would be Spanish underneathit. We kind of kid like, you
know, it's like the Godzillamovie. Not like that. We're
still speaking in English butit's under

Fr. Charles Howell (34:54):
underneath.
You know, hey, you need to getyou need to get Ramon to help.
We've already got him. Yeah, goproblem. I'm gonna boost

Unknown (35:02):
ombre the radio man

Fr. Charles Howell (35:06):
radio man we need to have him on here. We're
gonna have you know he's our ourclassmate. So yeah, so he said
he sat behind us for four yearswith decontaminant Claudia and
just a good friend really just agreat you know, regardless of

(35:26):
the fact that he's a Spanishspeaking person just as an
individual great guy great storycomplex what he accomplished
with education they have just anamazing story then you throw in
the Spanish what he what hemeans to the Spanish speaking
community. I mean, it's he wassaid my god there's no lesson
there's no other no other way todescribe it. Let's see. So does

(35:49):
he come out to the Good Shepherdor

Unknown (35:51):
when I need them or if he's out there and we work
several situations are justtogether like that and
everything so like I said, Ihelped to Bishop appointed me as
the moderator for CatholicCharismatic Renewal for the
diocese and so we've had somesituations with you know,
Spanish speaking people likethat I think okay, I don't speak
Spanish fluently by any means.
So anyway I this little skills Ido have I try to use you
convinced me just a second butanyway, so have someone fluently

(36:15):
speaking that remote doing ablessing in many situations, I
think for all of our parishes

Fr. Charles Howell (36:21):
is a good one you you tried to get in
Georgetown how'd that work outfor you?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (36:25):
But easy we're not totally agree yet.

Fr. Charles Howell (36:28):
You still negotiation negotiations. Okay,
good deal. Got few to get rid offather Danny Taylor's fluent in
Spanish. Yes. He's very good.
He's a good one.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (36:37):
So for the next class, we might end up with two
Hispanic from our church. Oh, inthe deacon burger. Be the bishop
still looking for more HispanicSpanish speaking

Tim Stout (36:47):
before he starts the next class? Well, the next class
because there's not one startedyet.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (36:52):
Right. Right.
When he made the focus more, weneed more Spanish speaking so I
haven't put two classes. I'mstill planning on learning
Spanish I used to plan now.

Dallas Kelley (37:04):
I work with your work is going to double

Fr. Charles Howell (37:09):
it. I know Deacon john watches this and I'd
love to say this because he willcall me tomorrow night. He will
call me after this episode airswhen I say this, but he told us
when weird formation. Whateveryou do, don't want Spanish. Oh,
he say that. Then he gave us oneof these.

Unknown (37:26):
Oh,

Fr. Charles Howell (37:28):
so No, he didn't really mean it. He was
just trying to explain that ifyou learned Spanish, there's a
whole nother world that's rightopens up and we see it in our
parish. You know, the baptisms.
I've done the Spanish baptismeven not even speaking Spanish,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (37:40):
you know, but no more. No,

Unknown (37:42):
that was it was challenging. I did want it.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (37:45):
You got one.
Yes.

Dallas Kelley (37:46):
Luckily, somebody that showed up knew a little
English. And I was

Fr. Charles Howell (37:51):
you know, God works in mysterious way. So
you know, hope that I touchedthe map, my contribution to
glory is exactly that was I didwhat I could do.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (38:02):
So you say your baptismal or you stay new. So
but

Fr. Charles Howell (38:09):
I'm pretty sure I said, I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure that's gonna bethat's gonna be a great
discussion from here untileternity from now on. If you
missed the show, Father, Dannytold us this is a great story.
He he was cleaning out his mom'sgarage as because of COVID. And
he found a tape to father Dan,or as a father Day is a Danny's

(38:33):
baptism. And he's like, okay,I'll see if I'm really free. And
he puts it in and it was tapedover. A cartoon, it was a
cartoon. So we're just assumethat he is right. That's that's
a

Fr. Linh Nguyen (38:48):
lot more cases.
It's, I was bad as an

Dallas Kelley (38:51):
as 60. So you never know. So?

Fr. Charles Howell (38:53):
Yeah. And his was a judgment. Right. Did
he say by passing? Oh,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (38:59):
father. Kevin, oh, him. Good. Judge would have
a lift chair at the Oh, BobMurphy.

Tim Stout (39:07):
Yeah. Bob Murphy baptize to

Fr. Charles Howell (39:09):
give me so.
So.

Dallas Kelley (39:10):
I mean, was there a time that y'all could remember
where they put in the UI insteadof the I mean? No, because in
the 60s, they were using thatthe late 60s, creator, Redeemer
and sanctifier Do you rememberthat?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (39:23):
No, it never made me into the church, you
know,

Dallas Kelley (39:25):
and I mean, there were several done and I had a

Unknown (39:28):
situation like that had additional baptism because I had
done a little detective work andI suspected it strongly. But
when I got their certificate itsaid on there literally in the
name of creator. All right.
There's my evidence.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (39:41):
Remember, at one of the retreat under Bishop
Gaynor and the spiritual bodythere was a debate the respawn
with him and us remember thatSt. meinrad and Bishop john
Bishop gainer stop everybody andsay, okay, the rubric say is

(40:04):
his. So therefore we need to gowith his Oh, remember that? I
think my read. So everybodychanges now so the whole thing
is Jake, pronouns.

Tim Stout (40:16):
Rep. The pronouns matter, right?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (40:19):
Oh, yes, fatty matter

Fr. Charles Howell (40:21):
which I could have used this I have a
current of another curve and I'mgonna add in I guess, did you
see the governor referred to Godas he or she

Dallas Kelley (40:32):
did not say,

Tim Stout (40:33):
yeah, there's a there's a video out there

Fr. Linh Nguyen (40:35):
but which government Andy

Fr. Charles Howell (40:37):
Yeah, in this press conference and I
think what he was he was tryingto be I don't think it's his
personal belief. I think he wasjust trying to be inclusive and
bring everybody in. But nomatter what you do today, it's
it can be controversial.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (40:50):
Oh, yeah. It's kind of like, everything's being
watched. Just be like Dallas,stay with a doctrine. And we'll
be okay.

Dallas Kelley (40:58):
He's talking to you. He's

Fr. Charles Howell (41:00):
day with a dog. Well, I'm gonna follow your
advice this weekend. Just keepit short and sweet. So or as
father Dennis Robertson likes tosay, follow the damn rules.

Dallas Kelley (41:13):
remember vividly that. I can't tell you one
thing. Follow one thing FollowThe Damn rules.

Unknown (41:21):
And he's right. It is a twist of a southern accent.

Fr. Charles Howell (41:26):
he's a he's a great guy. For sure. So Christ
in my home, look for it in youremail, I guess right now and,
and facebook, facebook andperish website,

Fr. Linh Nguyen (41:37):
this website?

Fr. Charles Howell (41:38):
Is it going on? Both Facebook's semi
Facebook site? And do you have aYouTube channel as well?

Unknown (41:45):
Well, everything pretty much that Okay.

Fr. Charles Howell (41:47):
Yes. So and I didn't know Steve, I think you
put that welcome up on youractually went to your, your
YouTube channel, we probablyought to set that up as a
playlist for the parisheswebsite. So everybody can catch
that starting Sunday afternoon,hopefully after mass. Super. So
what else is going on in goodshepherd church up in Frankfort

(42:10):
know something good about what'sgoing on there? COVID.
Obviously, well

Unknown (42:13):
change things for you.
I've hoped for the same for St.
JOHN school and St. Francis andjohn school. But we have been in
person. And I mean, our facultyat the school and our principal
and our principals. I thinkyou've worked so hard to an in
person. I think it was the rightdecision. still difficult
decision to admit. But to thisdate. To it knock on wood. No

(42:37):
covid cases are healthy. Still.
The kids are healthy. Thefaculty is healthy. I'm liking
Wow. You know, we just beingconscientious. Follow the rules,
follow rules,

Tim Stout (42:47):
rules, it applies outside of theology, too. Right?

Unknown (42:50):
Yeah. And this sense of just and the kids are wonderful.
And I think so, you know, and ifwe do get a case, okay, we're
gonna follow health department'srules and say do what they say
to do

Fr. Charles Howell (42:59):
contact tracing all that good stuff.
Exactly.

Unknown (43:01):
So horn right now, everything's been going great
for that. And I'm thinking thankGod, you know, so

Fr. Charles Howell (43:08):
that's good news to me. Awesome. Awesome. So
you've been at how long have youbeen a good shepherd? 13 years
also, y'all were assigned at thesame time to me.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (43:17):
Well, the truth is he was supposed to replace
me.

Fr. Charles Howell (43:21):
Are you just gonna swap or swap why

Fr. Linh Nguyen (43:27):
not just sent him here. I think I enjoyed it
good. He's having

Tim Stout (43:31):
a sound effect.
Right.

Fr. Charles Howell (43:38):
So 13 years so I think all assignments this
year got put on hold right priceof COVID. So both of y'all might
be up for movement again nextyear. What's your what how many
parishes Have you been at in thediocese since ordination?

Unknown (43:51):
Three. So three, well, I had three that I had. It was
one parish assignment, though.
And my former parish so I hadthree

Tim Stout (43:57):
sites. Where was that? Where's it? I was

Unknown (43:59):
pastored in London, Eastbourne stat and Manchester
had three worship sites but onepastor for all three pay so I
was a I was on my horse a lotbut

Fr. Charles Howell (44:08):
galloping a lot. That's not really the
mountains but it's kind of thefoothills I guess, right? Yeah.

Unknown (44:12):
Yeah. Well, Winchester definitely mountains. Oh, yeah.
That's right. We get closeenough. Close up here in the
mountains in your Lake County.
You're in the mountains.

Fr. Charles Howell (44:20):
Clay County of it. So good shepherd. How
does that compare to St. JOHN?
That same size, they bigger theywith a

Fr. Linh Nguyen (44:30):
lot bigger, well established. A lot of
elderly, a lot of governmentofficials, a lot of politics.

Unknown (44:39):
there's anything you can happen. The former pastor
when he left after he left hecalled me back about two days
later, he said because sometimespastors meet and they think well
okay, here's some load and wedon't talk about people right?
We just talk about here's somethings you'll just challenge
with it. And so he says one morething I forgot. You better be
ready to deal with politics inFrankfort, Kentucky. I thought
oh my goodness. And he's right.
So it'd be stepping in at thefoot of the hill of Capitol Hill

(45:01):
there in the parish, theCatholic parish of Capitol Hill
is a lot of going on.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (45:06):
You know, you did you did you do a lot of pray
service at the Capitol. And thena chaplain Catholic chaplain,
chaplain there,

Unknown (45:13):
the Senate and the House. We do services up there
lint, and all kinds of stufflike that. So but then, then you
got legislators that come tomass and the phone calls and you
get connectivity. You gotCatholics at the Capitol? Yeah,
that's a funny one, man. You

Fr. Charles Howell (45:25):
know, you work real closely with Jason
Aldean at cck. Yeah, good, man.

Unknown (45:30):
They're really good, man. That's true up there, man.
All we do without them.

Fr. Charles Howell (45:35):
Politics is a different game, for sure. It's
a tough environment. Man. Thoselobbyists they earn, you know,
lobbyists sometimes get a badname. They really do. But at
least I think from the Catholicperspective, what the work that
they're doing is, is amazing

Unknown (45:50):
release in Holland, Andrew vandiver are just
phenomenal people. And they seemto love what they do to like,
have at it. Love it.

Fr. Charles Howell (45:57):
Yeah.
There's nothing good aboutpolitics in my mind. Really. I
mean, it's, you know, it's sodifferent than it was even five
years ago, but 10 years ago,even even more so. But it's I
think it's partly destroying ourculture. It's so so bad I don't
think

Dallas Kelley (46:14):
a religion

Tim Stout (46:16):
that's a good way to look at

Fr. Linh Nguyen (46:18):
another way we can set it

Fr. Charles Howell (46:19):
yes on Facebook ad for a T shirt for
trumpets at Trump is my king.
And then that's looking at oneof the comments somebody said
who could wear that shirt? Butit is you're right it's a it's a
faith it comes another religion

Tim Stout (46:37):
it's a

Fr. Linh Nguyen (46:39):
different world the work that he does you didn't
I'm very fashion it's tough. Youknow sometime you in the
crossfire right? Oh,

Fr. Charles Howell (46:46):
yeah.
Anytime youman. So the pastor there has has
a few more levers a goodshepherd has a few more arrows
that that they need in theirquiver, so to speak. So. Any
there's no prisons in Frankfort?
Oh, no.

Unknown (47:03):
The Franklin County Detention Center. Okay. So as
far as the state prison well,Franklin County Detention Center
is both county and state.
State people there too, as well.

Tim Stout (47:12):
So you, you do some prison ministry there as well.
So you don't do that here. Youdon't have

Fr. Linh Nguyen (47:18):
only when they need me. They kind of restrict

Fr. Charles Howell (47:20):
so they were shut down. Our jail was shut
down for six or eight weekswithout COVID outbreak and they
weren't even taken.

Unknown (47:28):
They're not letting us in still. Right. Any any
ministers like that, at thispoint, the jail and detention
center but

Fr. Charles Howell (47:35):
that's how it is with my mom haven't seen
my mom since March. We gotwithin two days of having porch
visits. And then they gotanother positive case. So they
reset the timer. So that's thehard part for COVID for me is
when that pin Oh, see my mama.
So there's just one. There's alot of people like that. And
they'll Steve's like they can'tgo see his mom.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (47:56):
So then how to sneak out.

Fr. Charles Howell (48:00):
Well, I thought about that. But you know
mom's not in the best of healthand she hasn't left left in the
last seven months. So I'm notsure I could get her out. And if
I got her out, she goes inisolation, which isn't really
truly different for her but itis an option. You know,
something worth considering. But

Fr. Linh Nguyen (48:15):
you able to talk to her FaceTime that hey,

Fr. Charles Howell (48:17):
we FaceTime all the time when she when she
wants to talk. She doesn't liketo talk a lot. But when she
wants something she she calls mewhen I call her she doesn't
answer unless you needsomething.

Dallas Kelley (48:28):
Your parents still around. Now both of them
deceased. Thank God. Mom diedright before we were already in
following Kanan did the mass inLouisville. We were already it
was right at the point where wewasn't offering the cup. That
first little thing we were doingit masses. Nobody can receive
the cup

Fr. Charles Howell (48:48):
and it took the holy water fonts out. You

Dallas Kelley (48:50):
know, I was right when that's when she died. So we
got a full funeral and I thinkit was two days later. Nobody
can have a funeral.

Unknown (48:58):
Oh, my mom passed right as it started. Yeah, that was a
night basically. Yeah, prettymuch because remember the
visitation? People like overcome like it just broke out and
broke

Fr. Linh Nguyen (49:08):
our room. Yeah, your mom is right behind his
mom. Right within a week lookslike

Fr. Charles Howell (49:13):
Yeah, I think that's the hardest part is
is the funerals was brutal.
Yeah. I mean, the wedding sideof it. You know, people have
some some options on the weddingside of things the way they
celebrator or whatever. But, youknow, in the heart of COVID and
the funerals just think those

Unknown (49:28):
don't hug don't shake hands. Don't that's that's it
since it can't say that anybodyat a funeral? I did. I did a
Christian thing to say it's ayou can't hug separate. It's
like

Fr. Charles Howell (49:39):
it's very hard. I did a funeral just last
week. And lo Well, that was atough one for my from triple
homicide. Buddy, my nephew, goodfriend of mine. Snuffy was was
killed. And you know, we werehugging. You know? It's just not
it's we're we're people thatneed contact, we need to be

(50:04):
conversing with people we needto be. I'll use the word in
communion with people just likewe need to be in communion with
each other. When we talk aboutmasses, the same thing at at a
funeral or a wedding or anyother sacraments, we have to be
able to touch each other.

Unknown (50:18):
It's just about to say several months ago now and
several months ago, during thepandemic, the Bay County Health
Department reported was aincrease or jump of 20% increase
cases in Fayette County. Andthey were led to or suspected to
the Hispanic Latino community.
And people are asking why isthat? So like that, not to stop
my job is knowing that Latino,Hispanic hard, you touch up, you

(50:40):
hang out with your family. Andit's culturally, it's very
difficult in that culture, aswell as many others to separate
families apart. us don't dothat. And to say you can't hug
you can't be together. That'sgonna be very challenging for
many cultures.

Fr. Charles Howell (51:00):
And as time goes on, you know, you could
deal with it. I thinkpsychologically, you can deal
with it in a short term. Butwe're not fundamentally going to
change and the people that don'tinteract with people, we will
it'll kill us. it'll, it'll,it'll destroy, it'll destroy us.
If we can't be in person withsomebody and shake their hands

(51:22):
and give them a hug. And sure,similar ologies prove that Yeah.
And that's kind of what ourdoctor we had on a few weeks ago
said, you know, the bigger thingthat's going to happen with
COVID is the psychological

Fr. Linh Nguyen (51:33):
and almost psychological.

Fr. Charles Howell (51:34):
We haven't really figured out yet so. Well,
Charles, thanks for being herewith us tonight. We're not done
yet. We have a thing calledsaying of the day and the saying
of the day is not St. Teresa ofthe zoo, because that was
yesterday, which is today. So wedo a little thing called say

(51:55):
today we use St. Francis. St. AtSt. Franciscan. Yeah, so today's
saint of the day is actuallytomorrow, say the day for us.
It's the feast of the guardianangels. So here is st of the
day.

Unknown (52:12):
This is Franciscan media's and Saint of the day for
October 2.
Today we celebrate the guardianangels.
All parents can take comfort inthe belief that an angel
protects their little ones fromdangers real and imagined. Yet
guardian angels are not just forchildren. Their role is to
represent individuals before Godto watch over them always to aid

(52:35):
their prayer and present theirsouls to God at death. The
concept of an angel assigned toguide and nurture each human
being flows from Scripture.
Jesus's words in Matthew'sGospel best support the belief.
See that you do not despise oneof these little ones for I say
to you that there are angels inheaven always look upon the face
of my Heavenly Father. devotionto the angels began to develop

(52:59):
with the birth of the monastictradition in the church. St.
Benedict gave an impetus in thesixth century, St. Bernard of
clairvaux, the great 12thcentury reformer was such an
eloquent spokesman for guardianangels, that devotion to them
spread in the very form it hasto this day. Today's feast is an
expression of faith in God'senduring love and providential

(53:19):
care extended to each of us dayin and day out until life's and
there's more about the saintsalong with inspiration and
Catholic resources at ourwebsite. Saint of the day.org
from Franciscan media. This hasbeen saved to the de

Fr. Charles Howell (53:38):
Saint of the day the guardian angels,
everybody has one right?

Dallas Kelley (53:41):
Oh yeah, that's what I hear.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (53:44):
Oh, minds working overtime.

Dallas Kelley (53:46):
I picked up is your guardian angel. A covid
survivor are they close enoughto get it? He's

Fr. Linh Nguyen (53:54):
very close and he is very distance. Keep saving
my

Unknown (54:01):
safety and tell us who it is. I can't tell
your guardian angel.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (54:06):
Oh, you have a guardian angel has a name. Oh,
man do

Unknown (54:10):
your show. Yeah, I gave my middle name because I don't
like the habit of like it.

Fr. Charles Howell (54:16):
It's one of those things. I'm pretty sure
that probably separates us fromsome of our evangelical friends
right? Oh yeah. Guardian Angel.
You

Fr. Linh Nguyen (54:24):
know I love this time all the great feasts
we celebrate the Guardian thearchangels Okay. And then Jerome
Jerome is very you know not oneof the great thing about Jerome
is fascinating was on relevantradio. I didn't know that. You
know how we get into biblicalstudy? Because he has so much

(54:45):
sexual temptation. So he askedGod and he said, You know what,
I'm gonna study Hebrews andtranslate the whole Bible in it.
And that's how safe is but Iguess great. And then we sell it
to resellers your you know thelittle flower flowers and she's
not as well you know.

Fr. Charles Howell (55:07):
But Fatima this

Fr. Linh Nguyen (55:08):
month I'm 15 years old and turned to a doctor
with a judge you kidding me? Andnow we sell it. We got it. It's
so low price that we have a fitof all this celebration, you
know, I'm saying guardian angel.
You kidding me? You know

Unknown (55:25):
it's interesting. When I grew up in the Southern
Baptist tradition, there's ahumongous season around
Christmas time. Huge offeringthroughout the world for
Southern Baptist. It's called alot of noon Christmas offering
the Lottie moon ottimo.
She's a wonderful woman, greatmissionary, to both China and
Japan to the Asian countries.
And she this woman was anevangelist, she rocked. And this

(55:46):
is I think, in the late 1800s,things like that, you know,
early 1900s and she was veryeffective. And so I was I just
thought Lottie moon came to mymind, I thought, who is Lottie
moon now? on YouTube? I waslooking at all these things. And
there's several the SouthernBaptist brothers and sisters are
talking about how what awonderful woman she was a
virtuous life. She lives how sheproclaimed things and she was

(56:09):
such an I'm thinkingshe's a saint.
Just say, well,

Dallas Kelley (56:16):
just can't pray to her right.

Unknown (56:18):
What's the difference here? I guess that's we're gonna
cut it off. And then I won'tbraid.

Fr. Charles Howell (56:24):
But that's a great story. I write that down.
I worked. I've worked for thelast 20 years with a Baptist
minister. That means we work ina company right? That's not
religious, but well to religiousbecause we're in there, but

Unknown (56:36):
I had to ask him about the Southern Baptist still. No,
no, he's independent northernBaptist. He may scratch his
head. I saw the bathroom. He'sworking on his doctrine, Lottie
moon, and he'll light up. I'lldo it. I'll do.

Fr. Charles Howell (56:48):
em. Oh, yeah. Got it. I mean, hey, next
week. We don't have a guest. Sowe're still working on that. I
got some ideas. Got some ideasor we'll come up with some

Dallas Kelley (56:59):
great we're starting to do maybe doing one
on an homage and stuff if you

Fr. Charles Howell (57:02):
Yeah, that'd be good. I'm doing omen. Yeah.
No, Watson in you know how thateffects effects usually that
comes up at RCA. So we can RCAhow's that going? worse? Didn't
good. Register

Fr. Linh Nguyen (57:16):
kick right now we have full Kennedy we met
already. But good shepherd meteven early than us.

Fr. Charles Howell (57:22):
We could share other things like that,
too. Hey, just giving y'all someideas. So we're gonna

Dallas Kelley (57:27):
have that man and talk tell about their story, or
one or two of them or,

Fr. Charles Howell (57:30):
yeah, face journeys, man, they make them
both. The most interesting partbecause everybody thinks their
face story is unique. And theyare but there are some things
that kind of weave in to otherpeople's lives. And, and I think
it's always good for people tohear a story. There's never a
dull face story, even whensomebody like Danny followed me
last week. So my story's notvery good. I thought, though,

(57:52):
that episode we had last lastweek was one of the best
episodes we ever had. Right? Sogood guy. Hey, if you're a
follower of good shepherd churchon Facebook, Hey, thanks for
tuning in, or Thanks forwatching. like our page, too,
will like your house, it'll be agreat trade off about that. For
our regular listeners, listenersgo just go to Good Shepherd whip
website and their Facebook page,like it subscribe, all that good

(58:14):
stuff. Another way you can showsupport for our show, is to go
to ss fj.org. That's a short,shortened URL that will take you
to our support page where youcan do all your online giving
Sunday's offering. bishops arenot the bishops the annual
diocesan annual appeal, you cansupport this show, click the

(58:38):
other box. nobody's done thatyet. You could be the first one.
And we would probably get amonitor on the wall that works
instead of this one here. Thatdoesn't work so but show your
support for the churches,whether you're at Good Shepherd
or whether it's St. Francis andjohn now more than ever, the

(59:00):
pandemic has affected ourability to, to do things and
your financial contributionshelp us to continue to do what
we can. So we thank you forthose contributions. Most
importantly, tell your friends.
Give us a listen. spread theword about the show. Father
Charles, would you do us anhonoring, give a blessing? Sure.

Unknown (59:22):
Right and the name of the Father and of the Son and of
the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen.
Gracious, loving God, we thankyou for this feast day with the
church can celebrate Teresa asyou are witness a patron saint
of missions. Such a real andgenuine woman. Just ask
interesting questions and foundholiness and just ordinary
things. May we also find thesame thing, Lord in our lives is

(59:42):
realizing that you choose eachone of us were a path of
holiness and you give each oneof us a vocation as well.
Strengthen your church,everywhere Lord. Our two
parishes as we collaborate in somuch, our diocese, we pray for
our Bishop. Pray for ourpriests, deacons lay faithful
everywhere, Lord, for ourchildren for our schools. It

(01:00:03):
says, Lord to the intercessionof Teresa Vizio, and we to truly
understand it for baptized.
missionaries mean The Blessingof Almighty God the Father and
the Son of the Holy Spiritdescend upon you and remain with
you always. Amen.

Fr. Charles Howell (01:00:20):
Great show guys. Until next week, I'm
Deacon Tim I'm doing in Dallas.
I'm Father Lynn and yourCharles. Father Charles.
Charles. Good night, everybody.

Unknown (01:00:29):
Good night.
Did you ever stop and think,well, I spent too much time just
getting ready.
Then maybeI don't know a single thing that

(01:00:49):
I haven't noticed. When I seeyou my heart starts racing. I
don't know if the light ischasing
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