Episode 40 - Dr. Ryan Stanton - COVID Omicron Update

The Deacons sat down with Dr. Ryan Stanton, MD to discuss the current state of the COVI pandemic. Dr. Stanton is a board-certified emergency physician and has 30 years of TV, radio, and print experience. Ryan is the doctor behind several popular Facebook pages. He has not only worked as an ER physician at Baptist Health, but Ryan also works with AMR/NASCAR as a Team Physician and with WKYT and FOX56 as a Medical Expert/Contributor. Dr. Stanton also works with the Lexington Fire Department as their Chief Medical Advisor.  We had a great time and we can’t wait for you to listen and give us your feedback.
 

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Tim Stout (00:03):
You can put your headset on if you want or not.
But that's up to you.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (00:06):
I still hear you know, but now I feel
official.

Tim Stout (00:10):
And now you can really hear us right media.
believe we were on processedbefore. So you ready over there?
Hello, everybody. Welcome to thecardones studio in Georgetown,
Kentucky. It's, it's been aminute, I think it's what the
cookie it's, it's been a minute.
But we are coming to you for ourfirst show the new year 2022.
It's also the first week inOrdinary Time for you Catholics

(00:33):
out there. So I don't know howthat works out. First show first
week of Ordinary Time. I'mDeacon Tim stout. I'm taking
Dallas Kelly and following whenour guest tonight today,
whenever you're listening to usis Dr. Ryan Stanton. He's our
first two time guest as he wason the show all the way back
September 11 2020. When thispandemic was in its infancy

Dr. Ryan Stanton (01:01):
I get the recycle the doctor.

Tim Stout (01:04):
Welcome to the show.
I appreciate it. Hey, good tohave you back. Hey, we're still
on this path, a year and a halflater. What does that mean?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (01:13):
Well, it just means at this point, everybody,
you can turn us off and put inthe movie Groundhog Day and
watch it all over again. BecauseI feel like we are we are just
full on recycling. We've got arecycling program of a pandemic
here where we have wave afterwave currently now in this
omachron variant. You know, froma healthcare standpoint, we have
this huge conflagration we'regoing to use this a good word

(01:35):
meaning fire, I guess, of ofstaffing, patient surges, and
burnout and bed availability.
And so it's really been just ahuge struggling challenging even
when we are here, September 11of 2020. I don't think we could
have predicted that we wouldstill be talking about it as an
active problem. In 2022. I thinkwe all thought at this point it

(01:58):
was going to be at least not ifnecessarily gone potentially an
afterthought.

Tim Stout (02:04):
Yeah, I mean, one of the things that I think that's
kind of unique is we have goodrepresentation. Here we have
Brother Lin who's got thespiritual side church side of a
douses teaching in the school,I'm on the private industry
side, you're in a lot ofdifferent aspects, healthcare,
but you're also worked with thefire department, other first
responders, everybody's kind ofadapted to a certain extent, but

(02:25):
we can't seem to outrun it.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (02:27):
No, not right now in and that's, that's one of
our the fallacy of, of the humancondition is assuming that we
can tackle and tame nature. Imean, we've we've done pretty
well domesticating the dog, butyou know, when it comes to, when
it comes to things such asviruses in and infections and

(02:48):
the inner workings, you know,there's so much that is still
that we are not going to masterwe are not we we have to learn,
learn, basically, to live in asymbiosis with our environment,
and the things that is going todo. And we all are on the same
pathway. And as our bodies age,they become more susceptible to
the environment. And that isexactly what we're seeing here.

(03:10):
And the challenge is that, youknow, I think we assumed that
just because we were we caneither politics our way out of
it, we could either think ourway out of it. But honestly, a
virus doesn't care who you votedfor which country, you're from
where you were born, All itcares about is doing its thing,
which is finding a host so itcan reproduce. And that's

(03:31):
exactly what these viruses do.
And I think we're at the pointnow, I always tell my students,
my people, I work with my kids,nothing gets better when you
panic. And so there's no reasonto panic. It's do what we can do
with the stuff we've got rightnow, which we are better now
than we were two years ago, interms of our technology, our
knowledge of this, our tools, wehave to fight it. And we just
have to work with it, make wisedecisions, and honestly just

(03:53):
move on as best we possibly can.
And just deal with the things asthey're here. We can't just, we
can't continue two years intoour lives of this. Two can be
completely off the rails justCOVID have to you know, they're
still life and industry andthings in school. I mean, that's
one of the most important thingsthat we have to make sure that

(04:15):
we are doing in order to makesure that our lives can continue
as best they can.

Tim Stout (04:21):
Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm in the mining business. So
our guys are kind of separatedwhen they go underground and
different stuff. So we've we'vemanaged it but business has to
manage it very quickly or you'regoing to be out of business
schools. They've been up anddown, obviously, right

Dallas Kelley (04:36):
teachers out trying to make a headache for
our principal anyway.

Tim Stout (04:42):
Well, and there's nobody that's exempt from it.
Even on the church side, justyou know, we've been we still
have an outdoor mass here. Westill give that opportunity for
folks so that if because there'sstill a lot of fear. I mean, I
saw a stat the other day it wasactually one in Lexington where
In St. Joe's, but anyway, theysaid, so many people came into

(05:03):
the ER, and like one night, 35%of them tested positive, but
they were all there because theythought they had COVID. So it
has to be fueled by fear, right?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (05:13):
Well, a lot of it, I mean, it's a natural human
condition to have fear to beafraid of the things we don't
know and don't understand. We'veheard we hear all these things
that are coming out about, youknow, the complications,
admissions, the deaths, thesenew variants, they have trendy
names. So you know, you got toomachron I mean, it sounds like
it's gonna do bad things to you.
And, and you get that in, youhave the symptoms, and you feel

(05:34):
terrible. And really, a lot ofhealth care isn't necessarily
about what I can do. I mean,there's, there's things that we
can do. But with viruses,especially, it's really about
your own immune system and humanbody and trying, we give you
stuff symptomatically to helpyou feel better. But really what
people want is information, theywant to know, they don't want to
assume they have COVID, theywant to know they want that red,

(05:56):
that red box for positive or theor just the blank thing for
negative and they want to knowexactly what it is. So they can
kind of decide and kind ofprocess your mind where things
are going. And I think honestly,the best health care settings,
not just writing prescriptions,but it's really about providing
the information, the education,what are your what is the

(06:16):
expected course, where am Igoing to go from here, okay, so
with COVID, this could lastanywhere from about three to 14
days, on average. For somepeople, it's going to be the
short end, for others, it'sgoing to be even longer, the
most important thing that you'regoing to do is rest, stay
hydrated, control your fever,still try to eat as best you
can, when you may or may nothave this sense of taste and

(06:36):
smell. But then, but But youknow, monitor, you know, for
that action, I think we reallyworry about the reason most
people are going to pass awayfrom COVID is because the
respiratory complicationsassociated with it, we also see
a lot of the clotting withpulmonary embolus and such. But
those are the things we want tomonitor. And when folks are
coming in, it's really becausethey have questions, and they
need the answers and then expectwhat's going to be the next step

(07:00):
from here.

Tim Stout (07:04):
Just I mean, I just can't imagine what it's like in
the ER, and you've obviouslyseen a lot of death in the last
two years. Correct?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (07:13):
Oh, yeah. I mean, even Unfortunately, COVID
is taken up a big share of that,you know, people that you're
admitting that that's honestly,seeing death is as a physician
is nothing new and different. Imean, that you just kind of get
where you almost it's secondnature, I mean, because you have
to walk into a room pronouncedsomebody and then you have to
walk into the next room and actlike nothing's ever happened, I

(07:34):
can't carry that into the nextroom with that patient. And so
you basically have to put thatin, put that in the jar, put it
on the shelf, and then move onyou process things later. I
think one of the hardest thingsin healthcare is, is the people
you know, are going to die, thatthey don't know it yet. So
whether it's a diagnosis ofcancer, you know, we diagnose a

(07:55):
lot of especially now during thepandemic, a lot of late stage
cancer in the emergencydepartment. And is that because
of the delay and people goingaway screenings or whatever it
is screening exams and thingslike that. And so they come in
with pancreatic cancer, lungcancer, in just with the
experience in time, I know thepath that's gonna take, you
know, and we want to give peoplehope. But at the same time, you

(08:16):
also know certain types ofcancers, certain types of stages
of cancer, other comorbidconditions, but even with COVID,
you know, people coming in withcertain disease processes,
certain parts, looking at the CTscan, oxygen saturations in the
70s, and things like that, youknow, that is a good chance they
are going to die. And to me,that's one of the hardest parts
of health care is kind of almostseeing into that crystal ball

(08:39):
somebody's future, and not beingable to really grasp that that's
going to really happen becausesomebody may be looking at you
and talking with you, just as weare right here. And then knowing
though, that the biggestquestion in life a lot of times
is wins. When does the seasonrun out of the hourglass? And
for some people unfortunately,we know and it may not be exact

(09:01):
but that's that's I think that'sthe toughest and and the
toughest, because we've had alot of that burden to COVID

Tim Stout (09:07):
Have we been as far as a parish goes as far as
deaths? A couple of years Imean, I know we've had our
normal share bits have many ofthose been from COVID

Fr. Linh Nguyen (09:16):
Actually, I bury six people die from well
design COVID complication andwhat is maybe Is he the the
thing I dealt with the most isvery fear. Fear is a real thing,
and the anxiousness so I workwith people in a way to kind of
nudge them to live their normallife the best that they can try

(09:38):
to get themselves out of thehouse. Try to connect with
people sometimes Association youknow, sometime I kind of guilt
them you need to go to church.
Good for you but it definitelyis good for for social
interaction. put a mask on andyou know, do all kinds of cool
creative things. And try to getthem just get off the mode of
Ray of death, it's real fearfear is right now, I think is

(10:02):
top of the chart. Everythingthat we do right now with this
COVID, I think

Dr. Ryan Stanton (10:09):
when you shouldn't just you mentioned
there's there's no reason to siton the couch and wait for death,
it'll find everybody eventually,but don't go chasing it. And we
do know the benefit of themental wellness. That is such a
player, we know that whetherthat faith and a positive
outlook means pot betteroutcomes, even if you do get

(10:32):
sick. So if you have somebodywho has cancer, exact same stage
of cancer, if somebody has apositive outlook, a well
grounded faith, and somebodydoes not, the outcomes will
likely be different. And there'sso much to the inner wellness,
the mental aspect of healing ofdisease processes. A lot of the

(10:54):
ways we think and a lot of theways our emotions are in stress
and anxiety, they have negativeimpacts on the immune system,
they have negative impacts onhealing, going into things with
positive with healthier diets,exercise, getting outside
sunlight, those types of things,those all encourage and promote
our body to have a more likelychance of healing, is there

(11:15):
anything perfect? No, there'snothing, there's nothing
perfect, that's going to sayabsolutely, you have about a bad
outcome, and actually have agood outcome. I mean, that's the
hardest thing of COVID is weknow that if you're over age
7585, you have a lot of riskfactors. And that then that's
where your numbers really go up.
But they're still young peoplethat are going to die, they're
still young people havecomplications, and the one thing
to stress and we really get hungup on the death side of it. But

(11:37):
for many, it's death is notalways the worst outcome with
regard to diseases, sometimesthe damage it leaves behind, you
know, for people that arechronically, you know, attached
to significant amounts ofoxygen, that can't get up and
walk because they get short ofbreath. You know, it's psychosis
associated with the neurologicdeficits associated with it,

(11:57):
there's a lot of long termdamage. And there's actually
concern that we are talkingabout in the healthcare
communities, especially withchildren of a significant
increase of heart attacks andheart attacks, strokes, and
things of that nature from thevasculitis, the inflammation of
the blood vessels that we'regoing to see in 20 to 30 years.
Leftovers from these used to seethose back in the day of polio,

(12:18):
and other infections that camethrough. But you know, we think
we may see similar with that aswell. But you know, that that's,
that's not treatable at thispoint. Now, we can't we can't
reverse it mean, basically, thedamage has been done by our own
immune system, the virus reallyisn't tearing much up itself,
it's the fact that our immunesystem, the only way you kill

(12:38):
viruses by killing the cell thatit's living in. And so the body
goes in and tries to fix theproblem, but by doing so damages
the body. And so it's the theimmune system is an inflammatory
process, any inflammatoryprocess leads to scarring,
rigidity, aging, potentially,closures, you know, that's the

(13:00):
heart attacks are many times arecaused by an inflammatory
process within the blood vesselsof the coronary arteries, you
get inflammation, you get theclot burden, it builds up
quickly and closes off strokesvery similar.

Tim Stout (13:14):
So you couple that side of it with the
psychological impact on ourkids. I mean, what's what's that
look like? Your

Dr. Ryan Stanton (13:22):
your Venus in that, you know, and that's an
interesting will be theinteresting viewpoint from
inside the school system is I'vebeen one that's from very early
thought that we need to do ourbest to get our kids back into
school, we know that we cansignificantly decrease the risk
to the kids, to the children andto the staff or for the most
part, but the importance, thekids have a very narrow window

(13:45):
where they establish who theyare and what they're going to be
not necessarily career based.
But you know, just establishingthose behaviors, interactions,
how do you communicate? How doyou have social interactions,
and those are built many timeswithin schools with these other
kids that come from otherbackgrounds, and learning how to
work together and I think, notjust the Scholastic aspect of
which is huge, you know, becauseso many homes don't don't have a

(14:07):
focus, or the ability to promotean education at home long term,
short term, find snow days,whatever. But when we're talking
about for a year, or semester, ayear, two years, there's the
combination of those It's thesocial interactions, the social
development, getting those brainpathways established. And of
course, it's the Scholasticaspect, where I think we're

(14:28):
gonna see probably a prettysignificant disparity, not only
socially, but alsoscholastically. With kids left
over from the pandemic.

Tim Stout (14:39):
How's school for you?
How are the kids?

Dallas Kelley (14:42):
The you're talking psychologically, they're
they're great. I was. Eventoday. Folkestone was when are
we going to get this mask? Ijust want them to ask us, you
know, and they to me, they theones I'm saying I don't have any
fear. What knee wanting to takethem? I do have few a few. Even

(15:04):
I believe when the mask becomeoptional at our school, I can
see I'm keeping them on. Butmost of them, there's no fear at
all and my kids. Yeah, the

Tim Stout (15:15):
Scott County school system, which obviously the
Catholic schools not a part ofthat but the Scott County school
system just voted Tuesday nightto keep the mass mandate. I was
following online on theFacebook. That was very comments
section was very alive. Should Isay oh, yeah,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (15:34):
there's that's that's anything in media wise,
whether it be a meeting oranything like that the comments
section is rarely going to addpositive value. It's pretty fun.
It can be funny, but sometimesyou just want to bang your head
against the wall.

Tim Stout (15:48):
I know. The mass mandate. Really, the teachers
part of it, I think is probablyone of the challenging parts of
it is keeping the kids in theirmask, you know, and that's
obviously grade level dependent.
I can't imagine first gradersare second, my wife teaches
fourth grade. And I know it'shard for her but when you get
younger than that, out difficulttrying

Dallas Kelley (16:11):
to keep up mask on them. Yeah,

Tim Stout (16:13):
I mean, I don't know.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (16:15):
Like I say we run a quite a fortunate school
that we small enough, we managewell enough. But one thing I do
encounter some of our kids inkindergarten, or first grade at
the goal to religion with me.
You write the impact. Some ofthem can't even read. Because
they require stay home lastyear. They can't even read. This

(16:35):
is second grade.

Tim Stout (16:40):
I mean, if you think about it, a sick a six year old
has lived a third of their lifewith COVID. Literally

Dr. Ryan Stanton (16:45):
just it's it.
We we live in Jessamine County,kids go to Trinity. And then we
want to talk about the messstuff there. And but the you
know, when we were doing the NTIdays, one of the first counties
to do the NTI days was snow. Andthey were in public school down
adjustment County at that pointat Rosenwald Dunbar and my kids,
we missed something on the NTIand didn't have it or whatever

(17:10):
and apologize. I'm like, Whatare you talking about? There's
2028 kids or wherever many arein this class and and these to
your daughter was one of onlytwo that did anything. And you
know, that's that's thechallenge is it's not if you
don't have and it's hard enough,you know, with especially this
day and age where parents areworking often both parents but

(17:31):
of course and in single parenthouseholds, kids that are with
non traditional in terms ofgrandparents or whatever it may
be relatives, to say not only ora few days as snow you need to
help wrangle that and to notonly do your own life and
household things, but also makesure the kids are getting a

(17:51):
quality education doing thingsthey do it. Now we're going to
do it for a semester or a year.
And it's near impossible foralmost anybody the best parents
out there are going to strugglewith this over time. Just
because everything else we don'tschedule our lives to say we can
also pull in an extra eighthours per day for 150 days a

(18:12):
year to teach to assist andpromote teaching our children

Tim Stout (18:16):
and then you get the case where everybody knows that
the kids are behind right harderthan hectic day catch that up
but then you get theseadministrators in the public
schools that are still justworried about the testing you
know how come you're How comeyour class is not testing at the
right level? It What did theyexpect

Dr. Ryan Stanton (18:33):
a lesson we just just with the chips for
your trucks and cars and we werehere in Georgetown to your
Toyota's you can you know Jesusstate hashtag COVID everything
and something I can't getsomething something's out the
toilet paper has been bought up.
Hashtag COVID This what happens?

Tim Stout (18:50):
What's the what's the biggest thing you've
experienced? That you wanted toget? But you couldn't get
personally?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (18:56):
Oh, the biggest the most important thing
I mean, other than the fact thatwe're struggling to get
epinephrine for the hospitalsand EMS right now, which is
pretty important. Really, I'mtrying to think what it is oh, a
lot of it is the things formotor sports, like just the
things that you know, we have tohave for safety equipment, like
our helmets, suits, things ofthat nature. Last year the

(19:19):
trucks that we're using torespond to vehicle incidents on
the track Yep, we couldn'treplace them because most of
them were up at KentuckySpeedway waiting for for chip.
Yeah, absolutely. And so youknow, that's, it's always
something. I'm amazed at thingsit's gonna say with COVID This
is going to take forever to getthere and then two days later it
shows up and then nothing andthen oh, by the way, eight

(19:42):
months later some shows up Oh, Iforgot to order it. I forgot I
wanted that.

Tim Stout (19:46):
I think every day it's tough to do is can be as
complicated as a truck so we wehaul rock in the back of track
axles and all the trucks for2022. We're already all
purchased that they were gonnamake they were already purchased
back in September. Last year, soyou weren't gonna buy it. You
didn't bad already, we weren'tgonna get it in 2022. But then
it could be as simple as a nutor a bolt, you know, something

(20:07):
that you used to going down tothe local hardware store to go
get. You walk into the hardwarestore and I look at you like
you're crazy. Because don't youknow there's a pandemic? You're
not, you're not going to getthis. I mean,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (20:18):
didn't you realize the yellow widgets are
only in fact, the, you know,just down to the simple aspect
of glass. You know, there'sthere's a thought that part of
the bourbon industry is part ofthe supply and demand right now
is the fact that plenty ofbourbon is being aged, of
course, I mean, we've got 16million barrels now, in the
Commonwealth aging. They justdon't have the glass to put it

(20:40):
in, in quantities necessary.

Tim Stout (20:42):
Yeah, so that means we're gonna get a lot more aged
bourbon. That's my that's myhope.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (20:46):
Pappy. The pappy 30 which is one

Dallas Kelley (20:50):
thing on the shelf that I missed the most is
you can find it Snapple diettea. I'm addicted. I'm addicted
to it. Let's meet the guy mywife calls me at school today.
She said I'm in Kroger they gotyour Snapple tea about every
case.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (21:08):
Yes, the 2022 toilet paper and so if anybody

Dallas Kelley (21:11):
out there is listen I got your teeth

Tim Stout (21:16):
so, so cute my wife she likes big K dot lemon lime.
And whenever we go to the Krogerwe buy everything that we can
all of it we can get and usuallythere's one nine times out 10
There's none but stays overthere shaking his head because
what his drag is that right?
What is that right? And hestopped it at all the Kroger's

(21:36):
between here and sits and badeverything they've got

Dr. Ryan Stanton (21:40):
Amazon official doctor tell me

Tim Stout (21:43):
but I mean part part and that contributes to the
problem right? Because when wedon't see it for so long and we
see it, we're gonna buy

Dr. Ryan Stanton (21:51):
Alright, so I want to know if I doubt that
anybody here has actually seenit my favorite soda is called
Doctor enough that heard thatokay, so Doctor enough is the
company has Johnson Citybottling it Johnson City,
Tennessee where I grew up for 20years. They they were the same
company that that initiated andcreated Mountain Dew and then

(22:12):
they sold Mountain Dew becausethey didn't have the capacity
theoret From what I heard thatthey couldn't didn't have the
capacity to do both. And so theykept Dr Rena which has got a lot
of niacin. So vitamin vitamin Bvitamins so nice and thyme and
those types of things andbasically a rally pack in a
bottle. If you're medical outthere.

Tim Stout (22:29):
It's good for you.
That's why soda

Dallas Kelley (22:34):
doesn't come in diet.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (22:37):
It means the regular one has his cane sugar
in his cat probably more sugarthan a field cane. But they only
had an East Tennessee well abouttwo well right before COVID They
started selling it at at ohshoot Cracker Barrel. So those
old fashioned old like in thecoolers or whatever those things
on the side Dr. Enough, so youcan try it in for me I'm gonna

Dallas Kelley (23:01):
have to you know if you're a good commercial I
might have stopped

Dr. Ryan Stanton (23:04):
it sprite and ginger ale had a baby not quite
so elite sweeter. This one ismore on the sprite caffeine. Oh,
gosh. If you want to do roofing,you won't need a

Tim Stout (23:17):
doctor enough? NUFUF Enough. I'm gonna put that in
the show notes too. But I'mgonna try. I'll try to the
Cracker Barrel. What about you,it's something you've gone to
buy that you can't buy? Data.
You get out just don't go you.
You lead a simple life. Is thatwhat you're saying? Simple.

(23:38):
Interesting. Very interesting.
Yeah. So we've we've, we've madea lot of steps. One of the
things I think that'sfrustrating for a lot of folks
out there is this, this testingseven, I'll tell you a little
story, and then you can tell mewhat to make of that. So my wife
and I, we both have beenvaccinated. We both have had
COVID before vaccination. Andwe've both been boost. So we're

(24:01):
supposed to go to Atlanta forNew Year's Eve. She starts to
feel unwell. She goes and saysI'm going to get tested because
we're going to visit some peoplethat digital is very immune
compromised. So needed a test.
So she goes to the healthdepartment. They say it'll be 24

(24:22):
to 72 hours to get your result.
She says okay, 48 hours and wehave nothing. We're trying to
make a decision. She's trying toget a rapid test can't get one
opens up. She goes and gets arapid test. She's positive. 12
days later, we stayed home bythe way. 12 days later, she gets
the result from the healthdepartment. And she's negative.
She positive or what shenegative?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (24:43):
Well, the thing is you also you have to
parse it out even further andpositive or negative in terms of
infection, are you actuallyinfected or is it just exposure?
So basically what those testsare picking up is the viral
particles. So the PC are anantigen testing, you're looking
for those certain changes withinyour nasal pharynx. And so we

(25:08):
don't 100% know, the test, ifthey say positive, are very
specific. So you have yoursensitivity and specificity
sensitivity means if you havesomething, what are the chances
it's going to find it. So this,the sensitivity is lower in
these tests, usually in therange of the upper 80s to around
90 mid 80s or so, specificity ifyou test positive in the upper

(25:29):
90s. So meaning that if it saysyour positive, there's a 90,
let's say this case, 7% chancethat you actually have it, that
it detected it accurately. Butjust because it detected it
doesn't mean that you areactually infected with COVID-19,
you may have been exposed, youmay just have some been around
somebody you may have, you knowsome of that in within your

(25:50):
nasal pharynx. So it doesn'tnecessarily mean you're acutely
ill now it sounds like she wasand that's what we're seeing
with omachron is the fact thatyou have not only with this new
longer hook, I call it likeVelcro, the velcro got longer so
it can grab easier to the cells.
And it's bypassing the not onlythe natural immunity, but also
the vaccine immunity. So thevaccines are kind of doing now

(26:11):
what they initially intended,which is decreasing the
morbidity and mortality risk ofyou going to the ICU getting
admitted to the hospital, ICUand death. So it's still doing
that incredibly well. And we'reseeing with, especially with
fully vaccinated people that forthe most part for many, the
diseases with COVID now isrelatively mild, and many people
just felt a little bit absolutesore throat, you know, this one

(26:33):
does have a lot more sore throatthan any of the prior variants,
probably because of that longhook is catching it farther up
into the upper airway as opposedto getting down to the lower
airway. So, you know, that's hisdid. Yes, she probably had it
that those symptoms probablywere Omicron

Tim Stout (26:49):
that just expected it to be reversed, though, right?
The rapid test to say

Dr. Ryan Stanton (26:54):
a lot of is timing negative and what it's
looking for. Are you looking forthe antigens? Are you doing a
PCR of the RNA strain strand?
And so a lot of it is exactlywhat you're looking for in the
timing. So COVID sniffing dogscan pick it up about two days
before people get symptoms. Sothat's a real thing. Oh, yeah,
we use them for NASCAR. Okay,we'll come. We'll circle back to
that. So they can pick up theycan pick it up about two days

(27:15):
before, you know a lot of theseother tests, rapid test, you
have to build up that viral loadenough that you can actually
detect it. So in the first dayor two, it's not picking up very
well, several days in which itsounds like we're talking about
two days later, right? You'reactually got that number up. And
so the farther you get intosymptoms, the more accurate the
test is, in terms of detectingCOVID itself up to a certain

(27:37):
point. It's not unusual to havea negative on your first day of
years of symptoms. Really? Yeah.

Tim Stout (27:46):
There you go. You heard it here first. I think
it's confusing. It's confusingto people plus people can't get
test, right? There's, well,there is a you know, we

Dr. Ryan Stanton (27:54):
still got a half a billion that are coming
out somewhere, you know, andthese are all antigen tests.
They're on their way. They're ontheir way they're in the
government tried their naresvehicle. But the you know, the
tests are there. And most ofthose are going to be the rapid
antigen based tests. Those areall, we've actually used those a
fair amount in motorsports, wehave seen positives, we've seen

(28:16):
a lot of negatives. I mean, theyseem to be doing pretty well.
And it's a good screening tool.
But you know, the thing is nowto just understand with how much
COVID We're seeing, is to put itin context, a lot of people are
going to have COVID not knowwhat we think we're probably
picking up about a third of it,that are actually out there with
testing, you know, use them youif you want to know the answer,
fantastic. A negative does notmean negative. A positive

(28:38):
doesn't mean that you'renecessarily still contagious.
You know, just just use use itin context. And that's the
challenge right now is theinformation gaps have been giant
the last two years,

Tim Stout (28:50):
Lisa, picking up a third of that. Does that mean if
we're have a positive rate of20? You think it's more like 50?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (28:55):
I don't know, not the test? Okay, I just think
probably, to the remainingaren't getting tests

Tim Stout (29:01):
aren't getting tested, but they're, they're
still paused. So what do youwhat? What do you think the
positivity rate is? Across thecountry right now,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (29:09):
if you look at the numbers, we're probably
pushing anywhere from two to 3million new cases a day. And
that's why this spike is sosharp. I mean, it's, it's just
rocketing up right now. Andprobably within a week or two,
I'm not sure exactly. When,when, you know, this is when
we're going out. But, you know,this, these, the number is going

(29:29):
to start dropping off within aweek or two, as if we keep the
pace with the rest of the worldwith Oh micron is it's a huge
spike up and a relatively quickspike back down and not going to
be this wide swath that we sawwith delta or some of the other
variants and, you know, that'sthat's, and we can, you know,
talk about, you know, hopefullythis is what we kind of talked
about before we get started thatthis is a natural progression of

(29:52):
viruses. They tend to have wavewave wave and then they have
this huge flameout, just likestars do. You know, stars have
this huge supernova right beforethey end float and came in on
themselves. And the thought isand what would be wonderful is
if this is kind of the supernovaof the, of the virus, and it
does this quick spike up. Andthe combination of vaccines,

(30:14):
natural immunity exposures, thatthis is the last of the big
spikes.

Tim Stout (30:19):
What would that look like?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (30:21):
I would hope I mean,

Tim Stout (30:22):
it that would it be just, you know, just back to
normal?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (30:26):
I think as close as you can get to normal,
I mean, back to normal with850,000 fewer Americans that we
had before. I mean, that's thethat's the unfortunate toll as
we've lost one and 100 peopleover age 75 to it is, you know,
it's going to be different. AndI think it it should and it
better change the way in termsof medicine and health care and
public health that we preparefor large scale national

(30:49):
epidemics and pandemics. We areclearly very good at localized
disasters, we respond very wellto tornadoes, and hurricanes,
what we have uncovered is thatwe are not ready when the entire
countries involved.

Tim Stout (31:03):
Yeah, the weather no matter what side of the
political aisle you're on, bothof them haven't done very well.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (31:09):
Yeah. And you can look at that's that's
probably if you look at most ofthe states, whether right or
left. So they have some havemade good decisions, you know,
some some are good decisions,some are bad decisions, nobody's
made the absolute rightdecisions. If you hear a health
care professional that has saidthe exact same thing the entire
time, they are wrong, becausewe've learned so much new stuff.

(31:31):
And we were so ignorant aboutthis thing early on. And we what
the coolest, the kind of a coolthing and a curse of this is
everybody in the public hasgotten to see the entire
scientific process play out onthe media. And the worst thing
has happened is where it'sgotten politicized that made it
near impossible, right in

Tim Stout (31:50):
the hearings where Dr. Fauci and Dr. Rand Paul are
Yeah, boxing Yeah, they're

Dr. Ryan Stanton (31:55):
going at it and you know, they're they're
fighting over things that sopolitics jump in. And which
makes anything difficult justbecause we're so staunch in our
in most people are many no andsay most, I mean, I think a
decent percentage on each sideare pretty, pretty dug in on
their political beliefs. And youknow, a lot of people in the
middle. But you know, with this,you see that science is not

(32:18):
always clean. It's not perfect.
You know, whether you look atthe hydrocortisone or whether
you look at the ivermectin, ittakes time to do science to do
the test. And that one study isfor generating a hypothesis.
Another type of study is the onethat shows that it's widespread,
beneficial, or harmful topeople. And so it takes time,
and it's not clean, and it's notperfect. And not all doctors

(32:41):
agree. And not all scientistsare on the same page. And so I
think that has made itdifficult, because almost
everybody said, Well, I heardDr. so and so or so and so meant
to say this. And it may becompletely off the rails, just
because you have an MD or doafter your name, including
myself doesn't mean you'reright.

Tim Stout (33:00):
I just that was your question. I think he answered
your question. You say I said,you got a question for the doc.
And you said, what happens whenone doctor tells you something
and then another doctor tellsyou the exact opposite?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (33:11):
It usually means that we don't actually
have a firm answer.

Dallas Kelley (33:14):
But I did think of two new guests that I'm gonna
try to get on our next show. Dr.
Fauci editor. Oh, my gosh. Iguarantee our listenership will
go up a little bit. There's alittle bit

Dr. Ryan Stanton (33:30):
the padding on this wall.

Tim Stout (33:33):
You know, think about it. I'm not a doctor Fauci fan,
but the guy is a public servant,you know, and just like you say,
Wait, the highest paid well,okay, but just like what you
said, I mean, everybody's goingback and quoting what he said, a
year and a half ago. And if thatwas still true, today, then the
pandemic would be over. Butobviously, things change. And

(33:55):
you can't, I mean, you're amedical doctor, it's the same
thing in a scientific community,when you talk about, you know,
mathematic equation or provingsomething, you know, there's a
whole lot of theorems that neverget proven. And it's the same
thing in the medical side of it,you have a theory, you go down
that road, and you try todevelop something. Sometimes

(34:16):
it's right, sometimes it'swrong. But

Dr. Ryan Stanton (34:18):
there wasn't too many hundreds of years ago
that everybody in this world wasfully convinced and proved that
the world was flat, and that thesun rotated around us. And, you
know, took then now is just theopposite where that so it's with
information and medicine is themost important aspect of that,

(34:39):
you know, medicine likely led tothe death of our first president
with believing we could bloodlead out the infection with
George Washington. And if westayed with stuff just because
it's the way we've always doneit without taking into account
new information and changing theway we do things. It would be
really interesting to puttogether What I said in

(35:01):
September of 2020 10. Now to seewhat is different, there are
some things that are verysimilar that are the same COVID
still stinks. But there'sthere's things that I have
learned and done differently andmedication wise and mask wise
and prevention wise, and thatwould be a flip 180. And if I
was in politics, I would be usedas the reason I couldn't get

(35:23):
reelected, that you'd use

Tim Stout (35:24):
yourself against it.
Yeah. Well, you know, the maskis a is a great example. We we
all have plenty of mass. Now,there are not as there's not a
shortage of Basque, but there isa still a shortage of n 95
masks, am I correct in sayingthat? Or is are the hospital and
healthcare workers still reusingthose beyond what are well
different than when we started

Dr. Ryan Stanton (35:45):
and they were all designed as a single use,
right, all of those like thatone, those are a single use, you
go in, do the job come out, andyou're done with it. We are not
where we were before before youused it until it broke. There
are studies that have come outsince then, showing that you are
losing efficacy and safety andfit of that mask, within hours.

(36:07):
A significant proportion stopthat aren't as effective at four
hours, all of them are leakingat the end of the shift. And but
what we know is that if you knowif you know a lot of physicians
and nurses, especially workingin pediatrics, emergency
medicine, you know, places onthe frontlines that deal with a
bunch of illness, they don't getsick very often, probably
because we get these little tinyaliquot of these infections all

(36:29):
the time, I probably beenexposed to so much flu already
in so much strep and so muchCOVID that our bodies kind of
acclimate to it slowly. Theproblem we have with infections
like these, especially now withwhat we're seeing is with a
number of people, we areconstantly bombarded with these
huge doses of COVID-19. And soit's overpowering any type of
natural immunity vaccineimmunity that we may have. And

(36:53):
so, you know, the masks arebeneficial for us. But I hope in
September 2020, saying that it'snot it's a tool that may that
has some benefit, but it wasdefinitely never the solution.

Tim Stout (37:09):
And the government's gonna have mask for everybody. I
just read that today. Thegovernment's ban,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (37:14):
in 95 said that it actually there's concern
in the health care industry thatthey may that was the concern
with recommending part of theearly recommendation
recommendations from the CDC, onusing the cotton masks and
whatever was basically, sopeople weren't going out and
buying all of the health carequality masks, so they could
stay in health care, right. Andthe concern is now do we have

(37:36):
the supply chains right now, tosupply every American with an in
95 Mask and still stack all thehealthcare needs? We can't get
chips for our cars. Now all of asudden we can produce

Dallas Kelley (37:50):
and the testing I gonna send out testing Yeah. 500
million

Tim Stout (37:53):
500 million tests at home tests, will that be a? I'm
assuming that's a rabbit

Dr. Ryan Stanton (37:57):
test like the by an ox? It's the ones you can
like pick up at drugstores. Now.

Tim Stout (38:00):
If you can find them.
Yeah. But I

Dallas Kelley (38:02):
seen a news clip where they, you know, Vice
President said, I think it wasthe testing will be mailed out
within the week, right. And thenthey interviewed I think they
interviewed the people who makethem and they were like, I don't
think

Dr. Ryan Stanton (38:19):
problem is for us we've been we've got like
eight tests that we use in thehospital, eight different ones.
And which ones we use fluctuatesbased on the supplies we can
get. And so the reagents, thestorage media, the swabs every
week, it's something differentthat we're short on so we change
which technique we're using.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (38:39):
It got to make you guys really humbles and

Dr. Ryan Stanton (38:43):
I think this is the first time that for the
most part, that medicine gotscared. Because, you know, we're
used to being around diseases.
And it's very rarely that, youknow, people you walk into a
room and just very casually withall these infectious diseases
and things of that nature. Butyou know, there was there was a
lot of fear. And I've lost a lotof, well, a number of physician
friends around the country, toCOVID-19. But in the end, you

(39:05):
know, right now, I think we'rejust all ready to get it all
back to normal, where we can seepeople's faces again, and not
have to be worried every singletime somebody comes in and wait
90 minutes after the room isleft in order to clean it to
prevent the next person fromgetting COVID You know, all
those things that we're havingto do this disrupted and of
course with families out there.

(39:25):
It's visitation, right. I havelimitations on visitation. That
was one of the toughest thingsare in COVID and the early
stages is people dying and nothaving anybody around

Tim Stout (39:35):
at NC my mom in a nursing home for nine months.
They the net impact on her wasunbelievable the psychological
impact. I

Dr. Ryan Stanton (39:43):
mean, that's it's honestly like the young
where we wanted to get themtogether. It's the elderly thing
for nine months. You can't comeout of your room.

Tim Stout (39:51):
Miss torture. Oh,

Dallas Kelley (39:52):
I'll tell you one of the I miss the most is seeing
people's faces. I'm missingterribly. And that's hard.
That's a big part of health.
I've seen with some of my kids,I've seen them out in the stores
this weekend I'm preaching. AndI see I'm, as I'm preaching, I
see what I think is one of mykids. They don't have a mask on.
And I'm not sure. So I asked.

(40:14):
Yeah, I was there. I didn't evenrecognize,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (40:17):
honestly, if I had probably 75% of my ER staff,
because it's flipped over somuch. If I saw them out and
about, I probably wouldn'trecognize them without a mask,
because now identify people, bytheir eyes, their eyes. Exactly,
right. Yes. So when you see therest of your face, you're like,
oh, no, Cuz usually most peopleidentify eyes, mouth, chin

(40:37):
structure, facial hair, thosetypes of things.

Tim Stout (40:40):
Same thing, cycling community when I didn't
recognize if somebody didn'thave their, their helmet. I
didn't recognize who they were.
Right. I mean, because it's suchan important part of
relationship. Right? That Imean, the as the gateway to the
so just taking a lot moreinformation than we really think
that that it does.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (40:56):
And what's your trigger? And and that's and
what what do you mean, eachperson's a little bit different
terms of what they used it forthat recognition. But this will
significantly change probablythe way we recognize people. And
the way we talk to people, youknow, for so long, it was
actually it was kind of good,because I didn't have to worry
about my face game. You know, Ididn't have to worry about which
facial expression

Tim Stout (41:16):
I mean, he Are you serious look,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (41:19):
I just had to really focus on your eyebrows
doing what I need to do. Youknow,

Tim Stout (41:25):
I was amazed I shared with you I was in the ER with my
mom this this week. And one ofthe one of your colleagues was
that with a person, a man thatthey brought in EMS, he was
obviously hard to hearing veryowed. And I watched the doctor
interact with him. And I was itgave me a great sense of
humanity, because I don't knowhow long he'd been working. But

(41:47):
he handled that man. So well. Iwas, I was surprised. I was
really shocked.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (41:54):
And you'll be it that's one of the skills of
Emergency Medicine is you know,we'll go into a room. And we'll
have somebody who's just hadsomething bad to pass away, we
walk into the next room have toact like everything is back to
normal. And then interactingwith people. I mean, and that's
one of the most important thingsbecause there has been a lot of
there's been a big uptick,uptick in verbal and physical

(42:16):
abuse against healthcareworkers, especially in the ER
setting. And is to understandthat there's human beings on
both sides. And for us, thehardest thing to remember is
that it's not just a case in thediagnosis, that is a human being
into them. That is the mostimportant thing happening at
that moment. To me, it's one ofthe 30 things that I've

(42:37):
diagnosed that day. And sohaving understanding that
personal engagement nature, butthen when people come to the ER,
as patients and visitorsunderstanding that you've got
staffs that have now beenpounded for two years, with
COVID, and risk of infection andworry about taking things home
to families and things beingdisrupted. I mean, it's, I think

(42:58):
one of the most important thingswe could get out of this, if we
can is just understanding thehuman element. And the most
important of that thing of thathuman element is our ability to
be a community even if we'redifferent. I mean, if you don't
like Fauci, whether I do or not,

Tim Stout (43:13):
he's still a person.
We can still be friends. Yeah,absolutely. Whether we all

Dr. Ryan Stanton (43:17):
agree, or no, we've been

Dallas Kelley (43:18):
fighting that for a long time. We still be
friends, no matter what yourpolitical views are, we've

Tim Stout (43:25):
we've lost our ability in this country to
dialogue through differences,right? I mean, if you're, if you
have a different viewpoint thanI do on, whatever today, today,
it's COVID, right? Anythingrelated to COVID, then you're
not my friend, you can't be myfriend, which is

Dr. Ryan Stanton (43:40):
completely ridiculous. But if we agree on
everything, it's just a shortconversation is a pretty boring
day. I mean, the mostinteresting conversations is
when we're not on the same page.
And when we're open enough tolisten to the other person's
viewpoint to understand wherethey got it, where they come
from, and to reexamine where Iam, because that's part of
that's part of maturity andknowledge and intelligence is

(44:03):
the ability to take where youare now and reassess it based on
different views or new and newinformation and grow from that.
And I think we we need that morewe need to be able to have this
conversation was I know it isworking. It was work a COVID has
made it worse because it put usall for months and months
completely separated fromeverybody.

Tim Stout (44:27):
Yeah, it's kind of like the signs I've seen not by
the Catholic Church, but somesome nondenominational church
when I'm driving down the road,be nice. It doesn't say agree
with everybody. Right? Right. Itdoesn't say your point of view
is right or their partner pointof view is wrong. It's just be
nice. And that's one of thethings that I try to do in most

(44:47):
settings now because and Ishared just when I preached on
Christmas Eve is I went intoChristmas Eve Kroger half hour
before they closed and thecashier I was with my son And
the cashier, just look, youknow, totally frazzled. And I
say what? What do you say whenyou're leaving Kroger to the
cashier? On Christmas Eve, yousay Merry Christmas, and I

(45:10):
walked out the front door thereand son said, I don't think
she's having a merry Christmas.
And, you know, he's right. Imean, she's, there's a, there's
an article that I read thismorning doing a lot of reading
about grocery workers and theimpact on grocery workers how
they they've never had any timeoff frontline workers very
similar to to healthcare andthink of the number of people

(45:32):
that they're interacting withand stress, Hey, you don't have
my, my drink my tea, tea, andthat's who gets the brunt of it.
So you know, it's just just benice. Hey, up here, you know,

Dallas Kelley (45:49):
we've made it a point to always give a little
extra with tips now and be extrapatient with the restaurant
workers and grocery storeworker. Because man, they need

Dr. Ryan Stanton (46:01):
everybody.
Everybody is right noweverybody's just exhausted. And
that's, you hear that so much.
Now, when you ask people, Howare they and they just say I'm
tired. And you know, it's morethan just the physical tiredness
of not getting enough sleep atnight. It's kind of that
emotional fatigue of just thehits, just keep on coming. And
you know, if we can be nice,share a laugh, supportive, you

(46:25):
know, whatever it may be even myneighborhood, you know, God
bless my wife, she volunteeredme for the HOA a number of years
ago. And because all of themleft, but me this year, I became
president, which I have nointerest in whatsoever, that is
gotta be the worst job. And now,it's definitely not the worst. I
live in a relatively smallneighborhood. And we're all
reasonable, for the most part.
But you know, that sent a couplemessages out there says, hey,

(46:48):
just understand it. People youdon't understand, I know a
couple of things of theneighborhood just because of the
job I do and things and itstruggles, challenges, seasons,
people are going through, andyou never know what's going on
behind closed doors behind thatwall. So you know, what you may
think is, is you making yourpoint or dirt or putting your

(47:09):
foot down, may actually just berubbing dirt and a wound or
making things worse. So why not,let's just try to lift each
other up a little bit. And besupportive and be there for
people. And let's work throughthis together. And you know,
whether you believed in whatGovernor Beshear said or not,
you know, the one thing I didagree with is that we're in this

(47:32):
together. And you know, youcan't just because you're you're
Republican or Democrat doesn'tmean you, you get to do it a
completely different way. We'reall dealing with nature together
right now. And and I think theway to move the country forward
is for us to actually have thatpositive dialogue and supportive
environment that lifts eachother up.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (47:52):
Is a great opportunities. And the question
for me, are we learning fromthis? Are we willing to kind of
let go, I'll pry and say, let'slet's work together. And it's so
real. And it's it challenge thewhole nation right now. And then
we still not get it.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (48:11):
It's actually interesting what what a good
guest would be is internationalfolks, somebody from Europe,
somebody from Canada, to say,tell us how we did. Because it's
very interesting to get theinternational viewpoint of how
Americans handle a lot ofthings. But this pandemic has
been a big one. And you know,it's kind of like watching the

(48:33):
this is kind of like hangingout. I always feel like Canada
feels like we're the raucousneighbor in the apartment
downstairs. Please let them goto bed at midnight tonight and
not play loud music.

Tim Stout (48:44):
I did see a video of a guy who was not from America.
I can't remember where I was. Ihad to find it. But he he he
went into a supermarket thatfirst I showed her by complaint
and how there's nothing in thesupermarket. And then he went
into the supermarket. And he'slike, wow, look at all this
stuff. Yeah. Because asAmericans, we've become
complacent with access toanything we ever wanted. Anytime

(49:07):
we wanted, anytime, anywhere.
Yeah, right. And Amazon made itworse. Right? I mean, all
Amazon's but I mean, it's, it'sI mean, it wasn't that way when
we were kids growing up, youjust you just couldn't have
everything you wanted wheneveryou wanted it all the time. It
just wasn't possible. And Ithink this pandemic is has
taught that again, can't believeyou're on the HOA, I mean,
you're everywhere. Tell uswhat's switched what, how to

(49:29):
follow you. I mean, I've seenyou in a lot of different
places. I think Steve's got someslides up of your social media
stuff

Dr. Ryan Stanton (49:36):
we are now on.
I just became the chief medicalcorrespondent for Fox 56. And it
really is not much differentthan what I was doing at the
other stations is just kind of,you know, for the sake of a
better term, they just finallyput a ring on it, you know, by a
commitment that goes both ways.

Tim Stout (49:55):
But they've made a big investment, I think 56
Right. They've changed a lot ofthings.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (49:58):
They read their three They're just
completely revamped brand newmorning programs for hours every
morning. It really is nice andthey've really done a great job
supporting what I've doing andwhat I want to do from the
healthcare standpoint. NASCARstill Medical Director for GMR
motor sports doing EMSA let'ssee EMSA s RX NASCAR, the team

(50:24):
the side team is added road toIndy, and then our IndyCar
safety team as well. I'm notover that one, but do work with
him pretty closely. And then ofcourse Lexington fire, love
working with the local fire andEMS that's kind of my wheelhouse
is that frontline treatmedicine. And then you're an ER
doc on top all that. I do thatas well and a husband and a dad

(50:45):
and got my 14 year old a 12 yearold we've got every time I go on
a trip I think we get a new petthe rule is if they get a new
pet while I'm traveling, I getto name it. So we've had cats
named poops and squeeze. Andit's a good rule. A dog named
Coco Vaughn, scratch and sniffand we had Barnum and Bailey we
have Mr. Magee and Mr. Ferguson.
Mr. T Ferguson. And so that'sthat's the way we roll in my

(51:10):
houses. We get new pets I namethem, and then stuff happens
down the road.

Tim Stout (51:17):
I can't see that ending well for you, though.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (51:19):
Oh, I mean.

Tim Stout (51:22):
So how many pets do you have right now?

Dr. Ryan Stanton (51:25):
Alright, so let's see. The too many kids are
at least independent. We havetwo horses. So we have a horse
named Seabiscuit. See with adash and a big z k it is trendy.
Seabiscuit pony. That is mydaughter's name Casper. He's
white. Then we have the dogBailey. Her brother, Barnum we

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had to get rid of because theydidn't get along. Then we had
the cat is we have two cats. Wehave poops and squeeze the other
one got let out and apparentlybecame friends with a coyote. So
poops. Not great friends. Theydidn't mean they disagreed,
maybe different sides ofpolitics. So poops and then Mr.
Ferguson. Let's see what else dowe have? Oh, we have my oldest

(52:10):
daughter decided she wanted tochinchillas so that she has to
chinchillas but they stay in aroom and the only thing I have
with that is ensuring that shecleans out that cage every
Sunday. So the whole end of thehouse Dutton staying thank

Tim Stout (52:22):
God I love animals.

Dr. Ryan Stanton (52:24):
We do we do love our animals we got our
little Noah's Ark of ofJessamine County where we're
just welcoming things in andthen for the most part, let
nature take its course.

Tim Stout (52:37):
A bigeye additional questions as we wrap it up, I
just one of the things I want tosay is any closing advice in
general for folks, don't panic.
Obviously, you said that at thebeginning. But what else

Dr. Ryan Stanton (52:46):
don't panic, I mean, we're better off now at
facing this, if delta would havehad I mean, if omachron would
have happened at the beginning,we'd have been in real trouble
real big trouble. This isn'tgreat. But you know, we can work
with what we've got, you know,people who are candidates for
the vaccine and a booster needto get it just to protect you
and everybody around you. Youmay be young and very healthy.

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But those that you're around maynot be and we don't know 100%
Who's going to have a badoutcome. make wise decisions.
Don't put yourself in asituation we're going to have a
huge risk for a spread. We'reseeing a lot of small events,
you know, whether it's weddings,funerals, parties, things of
that nature, where we have thespread, if you're feeling ill

(53:30):
don't go to an event cancel,this is a time where you get a
free pass to get out of any typeof engagement that you have. I
mean used to you'd feel guiltyif you couldn't go to something
you'd RSVP this you're actuallydoing a favor. The masks certain
settings, hand washing themasks, especially with with

(53:51):
prevention of flu and RSV. Theymay not be perfect for COVID.
But they help a ton with some ofthese traditional viruses that
travel on larger particles suchas flu. We had I didn't see a
flu diagnosis from March of2021. Note, yeah, 2021. March
2021. No, he was before that is2020. And March of 2020. Until

(54:15):
about four weeks ago was thefirst flu I've seen. Wow, we
went at 18 months crazy. So youknow, make wise decisions be
nice to each other. We're gonnamake it through this. This will
end. And you know, I hope thatsoon enough. And the thing is, I
guess if this ends, I don't getinvited back.

Tim Stout (54:32):
Oh, absolutely. We'll talk about we'll talk about
NASCAR, NASCAR that

Dr. Ryan Stanton (54:36):
we'll see.
That'd be perfect. Buthopefully, next time we talk
COVID will be a afterthought.

Tim Stout (54:42):
My plan will be to have you as the first three time
guests. Oh, perfect. So thatopens up a whole lot of second
time guests between you can

Dallas Kelley (54:48):
you can follow right after Dr. Fauci and
Senator Paul,

Dr. Ryan Stanton (54:53):
just I could still come in here when the
heats high and the humidity isup.

Tim Stout (54:57):
We could sell tickets and do a fundraiser for the
church further Think about that.
With Fauci. Yeah without shame,grandpa. Well, listen, we thank
you for coming. We'll have youback regardless of what happens.
We hope the prediction is truethat that that ends the way
you're already. So hey PodrickCan you give us a blessing that
we all have patience and be Caneverybody hear something along

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those lines? How about that?

Fr. Linh Nguyen (55:21):
Whoa, excellent. So let's pray
Gracious God, we give you thanksto a difficult time, we'd
recognize you are with us. Yourwisdom continued drawn us toward
the give a patient of the crossof your son Jesus Christ to give
us true sight, what it mean tolove what it means to dedicate
what it mean to commit to eachother. And so we as you said,

(55:44):
your grace and blessing to allof us, our listeners, those who
suffered was during thedifficult time of this
Coronavirus. And so to all thefirst responders, healthcare
workers, those who are dedicatedto the service to your Son,
Jesus Christ, to guide us, giveus a true peace of your love,
that we may truly be a truewitness to one another in the

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life we all commit to live. Andwe ask this to your blessing in
the name of the Father, not theSon of the Holy Spirit.

Tim Stout (56:15):
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Thanks again, Doc. Until nexttime, I appreciate it.
Excellent. I'm digging Tim.

Dallas Kelley (56:21):
I'm Deacon Dallas.

Fr. Linh Nguyen (56:22):
I'm Father linguine. Goodnight, everybody.
Thank you.