April 16, 2025 • 45 mins
Dive into the world of clarity and mindfulness on this episode of the Dead America Podcast, as Ed Watters interviews Kyle Smith, Clarity Consultant and host of the Limitless Life Podcast. Kyle introduces his groundbreaking practice, NLSE (Neuro Linguistic Somatic Experience), which combines mindset, language, and breath work to unlock human potential.
Discover insights into navigating modern challenges, including mass information overload and the quest for meaningful problem-solving. Kyle emphasizes the importance of shedding external dependencies to uncover the true self and demonstrates how fostering internal kindness can lead to personal fulfillment. Explore the transformative impact of intentional communication and mindfulness techniques that help balance life in today's fast-paced world.
Kyle also shares his perspective on aligning the mind and body for long-term growth while offering actionable advice for creating clarity and purpose in daily life. Whether you're seeking inspiration or practical strategies to enhance your mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being, this episode is packed with tools to help you unlock limitless potential.
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00:00 Introduction to Kyle Smith
01:52 Understanding NLSE: Neuro Linguistic Somatic Experience
02:09 The Importance of Mindset and Language
03:37 Breath and Body: The Somatic Connection
05:39 Addressing Emotional and Energetic Bodies
07:23 Kyle's Insights on Modern Society
09:22 The Power of Problem Solving and Focus
14:20 The Role of Communication and Empathy
17:31 Financial Competition vs. True Fulfillment
30:02 The Journey of Self-Discovery
33:19 The Impact of Conversations and Questions
41:59 Kyle's Future Plans and Final Thoughts
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(00:53):
Today we are speaking withClarity Consultant, Kyle Smith.
He has a podcast, Limitless Life Podcast.
Kyle, could you please introduceyourself and let people know a
little more about you, please?
Sure, sure.
Uh, like, like you mentioned,my name is Kyle Smith.
Uh, I'm a Clarity Consultant,that's what my role is.
(01:15):
Uh, and I help folks get unstuck,celebrate their wins, and, uh, create
goals that inspire them, and getthem done in less time, in short.
That's, that's kinda nicebecause we all get stuck, and
we need help a lot of the times.
(01:37):
I actually want to go on a massconversation with you, but I do want
you to cover what NLSE is for peoplebefore we get into our conversation.
Yeah, sure.
NLSE is a practice that I've developedover the last couple of years and it's a
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combination of story work and breath work.
It's to hit the brain and to hit the body.
And breaking it down, NLSE, neurolinguistic somatic experience.
Starting with the N, it's neuro, meaningof the mind, also of the nervous system,
the neurons, and specifically whatI help folks with is their mindset.
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And mindset is important, weunderstand that mindset is important.
However, there's not a workingdefinition, so it's ambiguous,
there's nothing to reference.
So I define mindset as the storieswe tell ourselves about ourselves
or our opinion of ourselves.
Now, when we have that, we canthink higher or lesser of ourselves
and we can adjust accordingly.
(02:42):
Uh, so that's diving into the neuro.
Then the linguistics, the language,are the things that we say,
write, think, and how we breathe.
Breath is the language of the body.
So for the words part, with thestories, uh, what we say, write, and
think, uh, words, and before thisI was a personal trainer, so I used
fitness references, and this one is,uh, similar to how the physical body,
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is built up off of macronutrients,carbohydrates, fats, and proteins.
The quality of the carbohydrates,and fats, and proteins that we
consume is going to impact orinfluence the state of our body.
Our words are no different, words arethe ethereal macronutrients of the mind.
If we feed our mind quality words,we're going to have quality thoughts.
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If we feed our mind shit words,we're going to have shit thoughts.
And so it's getting people tothink about their thinking, with
the words that they're saying.
Uh, how about, uh, the breathis the language of the body.
When we're breathing high andtight, we're good to fight.
When we're breathing low andslow, we're good to flow.
So when we can take a second, andwe could be in a certain setting
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where we're good, we're comfortable.
And then we take a notice of ourselvesand we're breathing up into our chest,
we have shallow breath, and our bodycould be saying something to us like
there's something, there's something here.
And then we can look around,we can say, No, we are safe.
Big breath in, let itout and down, regulate.
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So it's like if, uh, if our physical bodyis like a child or an animal, it'll be
like look at this, look at this, look atthis, look at this, look at this, look
at this, and it's like, no, no, no, wedon't need to look at that right now.
Let's, let's calm it down.
Let's calm it down.
And so with the breath, we can talkto our body and our body can speak
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to us and we can have a conversation.
So that's how linguistics ties in.
Uh, somatic, soma, is of the body.
And that's the physical body, whichis passive, we don't need to really
actively get involved with many things.
So for example, uh, we cut our finger.
Our body is time bound, it'sgoing to heal itself over time.
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It doesn't involve us.
Uh, there's other aspects of our body,like the autonomic nervous system,
where we don't get any involvement.
It's completely passive, minus the lungs.
The lungs are the only thing that is apart of our autonomic nervous system.
So our heart, our breathing,our digestion, our recovery, uh,
bowel movements, all of thesethings are, we don't really
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need to actively get involved.
Uh, it'd be kind of weird whereif I was sitting here and I, I
was like, Hold on two seconds.
Okay, yeah, I totally stopped myheartbeat for those two seconds.
That doesn't happen.
The breath we can get in there, thebreath we can influence our body with.
Uh, and so the physical body, that'spassive, where we can just recover.
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And then there's the energeticbody that is timeless.
And the energetic bodywould be, uh, our emotions.
So emotion, energy in motion.
And that's timeless, it's not time bound.
So over time it doesn't recover itself.
So with those stories, those experiences,those moments, whether they hurt, haunt,
(06:02):
taunt, annoy, they're ones that wewant to celebrate and create meaning
or we're working towards something.
They're gonna have, uh,feelings attached to them.
And if those feelings have lingered longenough, they're going to stay in the body.
And we could experience something fromdecades ago and we can experience it now
as if we're there, which is not accurate.
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And so when we go into the energeticbody and into the physical body and
into the mind, to be able to alleviateour body of all this pent up energy,
of all this negative narrative, allthis talk, uh, all the smack talk,
it's not even self talk, it's justsmack talk, when we start to filter
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through all those, then what happens iswe shift how we feel about ourselves.
We feel in the moment, different.
And so NLSE, Experience,E, it happens real time.
People feel the experienceand the emotions changing,
Uh as they do this practice.
I like that a lot.
I've, I've been studying andpracticing NLP for quite some time.
(07:12):
And it really piqued my interestwhen that, NLSE, what, what is this?
So thank you for sharing that, Kyle.
It was very interesting.
Uh, I want to talk to you about our world.
Because I can tell Kyle is a verydeep thinker and, you know, the
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stoic thought really helps our world.
Mass overload, our world isjust filled with everything.
And, you know, we, we, consume somuch information, and luxury, and
goods, and, you know, beach tripsand everything is just massively
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overloading our sensories, our mind.
And I have found out over the lastten to twenty years, less is way more.
And, and if we bring it back to ourselfand we, like you've kind of laid out
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there, if we just slow down, and wedon't have to get involved with all
of that, and know that, that you'reokay if you're not part of everything.
I want to talk a little bitabout that and what are your
thoughts on that subject, Kyle?
That is such a cool question, dude.
(08:40):
Uh, and it's somethingthat I have thought of.
Uh, I think that there is alot of noise and distraction.
And it's, I believe that when we aretrying to be a part of everything, we're
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not choosing to be a part of something.
Because we're spreading ourselftoo thin, and we're not going to
be able to, be able to be a partof the solution of the problem.
So what I find is folks want to bringawareness to everything, they don't
want to actually solve the problem.
So I think that what decreasesdistraction is when we find a problem
(09:27):
that we actually want to work on,so our problem becomes our passion.
And when we're a part of thatproblem solving, then we don't
need to worry about distractions.
And, honestly, I heard this one, uh,my lady told me it the other day,
coach of ours actually shared it, andhe referred it to food, but I believe
it applies to everything, Where themore exciting life gets, and he said
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food, the more simple food gets.
We can expand that, The more excitinglife gets, the more simple life gets.
Or more exciting life gets,the more simple life gets.
And when we have all this informationand there's this perceived expectation
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to be a part of everything, Ithink that that's not helpful.
People can do that if they wish, butI don't think it's actually useful.
It's not being a part of it ifpeople are spreading themselves thin.
I think start one thing, solve theproblem, do the next thing, solve
the problem, do the next thing.
And have those problems be thingsthat you're really excited to solve.
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Because it alleviates a pain of somesort from either the self or others.
When it comes to the amount ofinformation, I think that it's very, it's
important to be mindful and intentionalwith the information that we're consuming.
Because if we're consuming information,mostly off of the internet, then
it's not personal information.
(10:54):
It's personalized information.
We're just seeing information to validateour own perceived biases unless we've
trained the algorithm to do otherwise.
Because we can train our algorithm tofind information that we want to see.
And say I don't want to watch this,I don't want to see this because it
impacts me in this way, that way,or whatever and then removing the
distractions as much as possible.
(11:15):
And by uncluttering and decreasingthe amount of stuff, I actually,
saying it with the similar idea ofstories, when we declutter the mind,
we have room to throw the party.
When we declutter our life, we haveroom to throw a fricking party.
And we can really likedo some good, good work.
Yeah,
(11:36):
that would be one of mythoughts on it for sure.
Yeah, that, that's a good discovery.
Yeah.
You know, the, the discovery ofthat is very important for people.
And once they break free fromthe excitement and the overload,
they can really hone in andfocus on what they want to do.
(12:00):
For instance, I have a big, big planof what I want to achieve, but I
can't achieve all of that at one time.
So I have to break that down andsolve one problem, like you just
said, finish that, get it workingand then go to the next problem.
And if I concentrate on eachproblem instead of every problem,
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pretty soon, every problem is solved.
And you have wasted no time on the spinof worrying about getting all of it done.
And I think that mass overload,because we're all bombarded with so
much in one day, and I see so manypeople rushing to get things done.
(12:54):
I have to have this done today.
Well, I remember mycousin giving me a theory.
The 7P principle, Proper Prior PlanningPrevents Piss Poor Performance.
And I, I really, I reallybelieve in that principle.
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And once I took a holdof that, my life changed.
And I really think that planning and,you know, being proper and doing the
prior preparation, that's very important.
Totally.
Yes, absolutely.
(13:35):
I totally agree with that.
And there was anotherthought that popped up here.
Uh, one point that I wanted tosay, there's a, a definition for
intelligence that I really like thathas its practical definition of it.
This was three weeks ago that I firstheard this, and I really like this one.
An, or uh, the definition of intelligence,an individual that can solve problems.
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The better the person is atsolving problems, the more
intelligent the individual is.
Yeah, that's good.
It's the same with leadership.
You know, you're a good leaderif you can solve problems.
And we, we realize solvingproblems, sometimes you need
a team to solve the problem.
And that's why communication isvery important, and understanding
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our world is about communication.
And our body is communicatingat all times, our, everything
that we do is a communication.
And a lot of people forgetthat in our busy world today.
There's, there's people really doingsome things that, I feel, is pretty
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detrimental to our society in many ways.
How do we handle the decline ofsociety while we try to fight for
the inclination of our society?
Ooh, a reflection question on this one.
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How am I contributing to the downfall?
How am I contributing to the solution?
You know,
because I, because if we're not activelyin it, then it's passively happening.
And I believe that when we're notdoing the thing, what happens is
we've veered towards psychic entropy.
We veer towards chaos.
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Chaos is the natural order ifwe're not imposing our own order.
And it's similar to if someonewere to look into the mirror, and
people can be upset with this,
I don't think it's that crazy, Ibelieve that when people look in the
mirror, they know when they're beinga winner or they're being a loser.
They know when they've improvedtoday and when they've slacked today.
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And I believe being honest, am I beinga part of the solution or the problem?
Because there's an idea thatI like where, uh, it's how
there's optimism and pessimism.
And a core characteristic of a pessimistis not seeing the potential in the future.
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An optimist is a personthat's a part of the solving.
An optimist is a part of theproblem solving towards the future.
So when someone's a part of thesolution, then they see the solution.
When someone's a part of theproblem, they only see the problem.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it takes teamwork tofix what's going on in our world.
And so, so many people are caughtup into a financial competition.
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And I, I really, you know, everybodyneeds money, but I, I think we all
need more humanity in our world, andunderstanding, and caring for one another.
And that means building trustand empathy at the same time.
And I'm finding that harder andharder to grasp in these days.
(17:06):
And I'm, I'm just interested onother people's thoughts on that.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Uh, shift the focus.
I'm going to answer it on the flybecause this is a cool question.
The, the simple, and it's the simple one.
It'd be to shift the focus fromvanity metrics to metrics that matter.
(17:31):
So we can, we can have like bankaccount measuring contests all we want,
but if the quality of the characterand the merit of the character is
not stellar, then it's not going tomatter how much money someone has.
Because I don't think that is theamount of money that brings out the
person, I believe that money justshows who the person was to begin with.
(17:56):
Uh, and so I think that the focuswould be for decreasing vanity metrics,
and then it'd be increasing more ofthe fulfillment and the feels aspect.
So money is, there's numbers, it'stangible, it's scientific, there's
metrics, it's easy to measure.
How good someone feels on the insideis a little bit more difficult.
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And so when we have more people that areaware that they feel better in general,
and they're pursuing them, like the goalthat they want to, then people are going
to veer towards each other that way.
And so when we actually shift our focusfrom, or, we can even, we can maintain
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an importance of financials, and that'stotally fair, as long as we don't
remove the soul from the character.
The consciousness, the heart, the, it'skind of, it's similar to, other than,
other than, you know, Tony Stark'sactual response, but similar to Avengers,
Take away the armor, what are you?
Take away the money, who are you?
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Take away the Lambo, who are you?
Uh, give the person money, who are you?
Right?
Works in both directions.
Of course, Tony Stark's abillionaire playboy philanthropist,
but you know, you know, whatever.
I think when we take away thearmor, what's, what's left is the,
the truest version of ourselves.
And I believe that when things arestripped away and, even if it's not
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like literally, even if there's ametaphorical break, like let's say
it's a weekend retreat or a sessionor something like that where it's not
even of importance and it's about,or, communication, collaboration, and
elevation, then the, the group itselfis going to be a bunch of rock stars.
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Well, we're really caught up infinancial competition instead of
freedom of our mind, our soul.
And we, we really need to havepeople come together without
that financial competition.
How do we do that?
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Absolutely, I would say so.
And then I would also say thatthe vulnerable point could be
different depending on the person.
So someone could have all the financialaccolades while also feeling loss
in their own sense of, uh, theirown, they're, they're diving into
their own winter arc. They're divinginto their own, uh, dark story.
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They're diving into that pointwhere it's going to be like, this
is going to be the time to prove it.
Uh, and then on the opposite end,if someone has nothing, then that's
an opportunity to prove it as well.
I, yeah, that's how I would put that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so basically the, the best time toreally truly know who someone is, is when
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they're at their most vulnerable point.
Is that correct?
Yes, it's true.
It's true.
I actually have a, this is my ownlittle mantra, my own little story that
I remind myself if I'm really like,if I find myself in a, in the Stuck
and Suck, I remind myself of this,and it's, Pain is the blacksmith that
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forges us into the ultimate weapon.
We start out as iron ore, and we're allmisshapen, and we're in the earth, and
we're comfy, we're cozy, we're shelteredby the elements, and then either by
choice or by chance, we're found.
So either by choice or by chance,we're ripped out of the ground, or by
choice, we allow ourselves to be found.
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Ooh, that like flowed real well.
Damn.
Uh, yeah.
It hasn't flowed, it didn't, itdidn't flow that well in my brain.
Like, uh, a couple, well, last timeI said it, that one was way cooler.
Uh, and so, from that point, theiron ore is melted down, it's put
into, I'll use a sword as an example,it's put into the mold for a sword.
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Then that sword is heated up, it'sbeaten, it's cooled down, it's sharpened,
it's heated up, it's cooled down, it'sbeaten, it's sharpened, rinse and repeat.
Until eventually the pain thatthe blacksmith has incurred forges
you into the ultimate weapon.
You become your own Excalibur.
So you go from iron ore toExcalibur, and then from Excalibur,
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you have a knight that's ready togo fight the, fight the dragons.
And the dragon is in the way of the gold.
The dragon is the story,the gold is what we want.
And when we take that sword and wefight that dragon, we feel pain.
There's like an Uhh!
And that's because that dragon is ourpresent self wanting to stay the same.
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So by inflicting that pain, we're forgingourselves, we're sharpening ourselves.
And it's not crazy, it'snot a huge amount of pain.
And pain, when people think of it,it's like, Oh, it's excruciating.
No, it's just discomfort.
And just, it's all good.
It's all good.
I'm sure you've livedthrough crazier shenanigans.
Uh, and then from there, I actuallythink of it where rather than
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slaying the dragon, rather thanslaying the story, own the story.
Become the Dragon Rider.
So you get the Dragon Ride, you get to bethe Dragon Rider, and you get the gold.
And that's by taking the stories,owning the stories, and then allowing
them to no longer have power over us.
And we have power over them.
And stories are experiences, memories,moments, uh, traumas, hurts, haunts,
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taunts, ouchie stories, awesomestories, death stories, dreams.
I've done a couple things.
Yeah, it all builds into an inspiration.
And, and once you find thatinspiration, it is a passion.
And I found once you hone intothat and start doing it, that's the
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trick, doing it, and you turn thatpassion into remarkable things.
It can, it can change the world,even if it's one story at a time.
And that's kind of what we do withpodcasting, you know, we, we learn to
bring out the best instead of the worst.
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We can focus on all of that, butwhen we get on the microphone and
we start presenting to people,it's really about the passion
that we have to change the world.
There's something wrongin our eyes, our feeling.
And that's what we're trying to do,there is no competition in that.
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That's just, that's that community.
You know, when, when we find communityin that, that's when we really can
start being the best we can be.
Agreed, agreed.
And I do think that, like when we findthe community, it's also an extension
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of the work that we've done ourselves.
Uh, cause game recognizes game.
When people are pursuing somethingwhere they want to do their part to
be a positive contribution to thehuman race, then what happens is, when
we're that better person, then we'regoing to attract more better people.
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And those people that are not helpingus towards our, or supporting us
towards our pursuit, they will justfall to the side and that's okay.
And that's okay.
That's right, that's right.
You know, I, I have this muddy shoetheory and, We, we are like a shoe
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and life is like a muddy trail.
And the mud is people, places, and things.
As we walk down this muddy trail,you've been hiking before in mud,
I'm sure, and you know how heavyyour boots can get, sometimes it's
time to stop and wipe the mud.
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The good mud's gonna stay with you upin them crevices, they know where to be.
And the bad mud, it's, taketime often and scrape it off.
That way you can walk down that trailand make it further and have less
exhaustion because you're taking thetime to wipe the mud from your shoes.
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And that's the muddy life, muddyshoe life theory that I have.
So people, places, and things, they,they are the things that influence
us, control us, or make or break us.
And we need to be able to control that.
So wipe it off.
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That's, that's my theory of all of that.
Uh,
Yeah, you do.
I like people spreading thatbecause it really is the case.
The mud is people, places,and things, control the mud.
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So yeah, we, we reallyneed to change our world.
And I recognize from your podcast thatthat's what you're doing, you're out there
trying to influence people in the rightway instead of, to just grab their money.
And that really matters inour world the most today.
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And that's why I enjoyed whenyou popped onto the screen.
Yeah.
I want to talk to Kyle, that's for sure.
And getting deeper into what Kyledoes, it's kind of remarkable.
We, we have a lot of the mindset insync, and I think the focus is humanity.
(28:16):
Mm.
Mm hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I totally agree.
And there was a translation thatpopped up in my brain when you
said, it was, Change our world.
Take out the L, Change our word,and add S. It's not Change the
world, it's Change our words.
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Mm. Yeah.
That's, that matters a lot.
Uh, I'm, I'm findingthat out more and more.
Because I used to not think aboutwhat I said, I would just flop it out.
And the harm that that doesto people that's close to you,
it really does matter a lot.
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So, you know, living life is, is a joy andyou can have abundance in so many ways if
you find, to be just a simple person inlife instead of needing to be a rock star.
(29:23):
Let, let the rock star just happen.
I think that's a better way to flow.
I agree.
I like that, I like that quite a bit.
Yeah, allow the rock star to happen.
Yes.
Because then, because then itreally gets, yeah, I like that.
That's very nice, it's a good visual.
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Yeah.
So, so what is yourfocus on the world, Kyle?
What, what is the most disruptingpart of the world that you find people
need to focus on to implement change?
Uh, the problem that I see is alsoa problem that I've experienced, and
it was a dependency on the externalworld to fulfill my needs and desires.
(30:14):
Uh, I think that there's, I think thatwe, now, couple points on this one.
No, actually no, going with this one.
A majority of what we learn in school iswhat to think rather than how to think.
And so when we leave school, we're stilltrained to just do what we're told.
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So when we go into theworkforce, it's basically an
extension of our school course.
Or school force, there we go.
And the thing that's dangerouswith that is there can be,
uh, internal, uh, conflict.
Because folks have been adopting storiesthat other people have said, you want
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to go to school, you want to go to postsecondary, you want to get married, you
want to, uh, have a job, you want to havekids, you want to have school, you want to
have a car, and then you'll hit retirementat the age of sixty-five or seventy.
And what you can find is that folkswill get to that end point, and then
they're going to be, they're not goingto know who they are because so many
other people told them who they are.
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So when we decrease dependence on other,on the external world, period, just
external world, when we decrease theexpectation for the external world to
tell us who we are, that presents us theopportunity to figure out, and not even
figure out who we are, it's to removethe stories that we've adopted to show
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the rock star, to show who we truly are.
Cause it's, uh, the stories arelike the mud, they're just adopted
stories that we've carried.
And then we can remove the stories andfigure out, and not even figure out,
I keep on saying figure out, but it'snot true, it's, because the person's
already there and it's just removing thelayers to allow that person to shine.
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And I truly believe that mostpeeps are well intentioned.
And
they have so much possibility andso much potential, and they have
so much heart, and they have such adesire to help, and they have these
stories that are, or these narrativesthat are lingering in their mind
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that is creating resistancefor them to make progress.
And it's a fear, it could be arejection, it could be a self sabotage
or procrastination, which I woulddefine as actively participating
and preventing our progress.
Uh, and when we figure out theresistance, remove the resistance.
Then we can allow us, ourself,with capital S, to shine through.
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So, it's the, I want
sovereign, savage servants.
I want folks that are autonomousout there, thinking for themselves,
knowing that they are on a journey,that they're bettering themselves,
they're continuously betteringthemselves, and they're bettering the
world around them as a side effect.
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The world is just going tohappen as a side effect.
If they're freaking crushingit, they absolutely can.
So I, it's the adoptionof other people's stories.
And another thing as well is,
when people, to get people thinkingabout their thinking, they become more
questions people than statements people.
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They ask more questions thanthey want to give statements.
Because when we start to thinkabout our thinking, we don't
have a biased uh, uh, concept.
And I think that it's, when you'rehaving a conversation with a person,
when you get three questions deep ina conversation, that's when you get
to the meat and the potatoes of whatthe individual thinks of, not what
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their cookie cutter responses are.
And when that opportunity comesup where they can show it, then it
shows them that they can do that.
So I believe that when people getto a level of consciousness where
they're helping and they're likebeing able to support people,
not force people to change.
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But supporting people in theirdecision to change, because we
can't force people to change.
That's silly.
If no one can force us to change, wecan't force another person to change.
Logic.
And so with the questions, we're ableto bring the, the, the person out and be
able to get more information and be ableto contrast that with our own thinking
to see where we may be faulty and wherewe're on point and be able to support.
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And if it's someone, if it's a heatedconversation, like, if it's someone
wild about whatever their thing is, inthat case, like, ask more questions.
Just listen and ask more questions.
Because when we ask more questions,then they have to substantiate.
They have to reinforcewhat their claims were.
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And once again, three questions in,if they don't know the deeper details,
they're not going to be able to, uh,last very long in the conversation.
That's true.
Yeah, I like that a lot.
You know, and, and the big partthere is when, when you do that
instead of responding, when yourespond with a question, it makes the
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individual think a little deeper, too.
And that actually de escalateswhen you are throwing questions
out instead of responses out.
Big.
You know, there, there's a lotof people that are very unaware
of that communication skill.
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So I, I applaud you for that.
What, what part of the world are wegoing to be part of is the big question.
Because there's the doers and the takers.
So I find that a lot of people makinga difference are doers and not takers.
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And what I mean by that is they'rewilling to give of themselves before
they expect anything in return.
How can we spread more of that valuein our world with our communication
like we do here on podcastsand on people's social media?
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Because I really think that'swhere this influence starts is,
if we can control the amount ofnegativity into our social sphere.
So, how do we teach people how to be morepositive in their presentations instead of
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all of the negative that we've beenwitnessing over the last several years?
Well, a couple parts on that one.
When it goes to the subjectiveindividual, don't pay attention to it.
Because then we're out of the loop ofit, so then we're not consuming it.
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So that would be like a consumption,being mindful of consumption
rather than mindlessly scrolling.
Finding something to havemindfulness rather than mindlessness.
Uh, so that would bethe, on the subjective.
And I believe that if someone was like,if someone was spending less time on
their phone and they were doing otherthings, they're just going to happen
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across being a more positive, I believe.
And then from the macro, uh, fromthe macro, I'm actually, I think
I might challenge you on this one.
I have an, this is an interestingthought is popping up.
I would not want to control anything onit because that would be the exact same
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thing as, so both all negative and allpositive on the extremes are delusion.
That's my thought.
So if everything, if everythingwas catered to positivity, then
we'd be ignorant of the negativity.
And if we're only seeing thenegativity, then we're going to
be ignorant of the positivity.
And yeah, and I think that that,that is a, it's a challenge.
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And so with that challenge,then it becomes more
intentionality behind the use.
Because I don't think that there'sanything, I don't think a tool is
inherently negative or positive, it's thepractitioner behind the use of the tool.
So we can have a hammer and ifwe're standing in line at the DMV,
holding the hammer like a phone,that's not a proper use of the tool.
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And a tool, and that hammer could be usedto build, or it could be used to destroy.
And so I think it's going to bethe intentionality behind, one, the
intentions behind the person posting.
Because they could be just negative,and if they're negative enough,
just like, block them, whatever.
Uh, and then, oh, where wasI going on that other part?
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So then there's the negativity,and then that challenge.
It is a challenge where, thenwe are more mindful behind
what we're consuming with that.
Yeah.
That's how I would take that one.
That's how I would go.
Yeah.
I think that's big, huge.
You know, consuming the proper things.
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Because, you know, I do go out, Iconsume on a research basis and I
run into a lot of things that I wouldnot normally even put myself into.
So controlling that influence isvery, very important in our life.
And I, I do want to recognizethat as a very positive influence
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on this talk for people.
Just learn to control what we consume.
And, and that doesn't only gowith information, that goes
with everything in our life.
You know, uh, everythingshould have a balance.
And our universe is balanced.
If it's off balance, there's storms andthings to set it back in to balance.
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So, it's interesting to havethese good conversations.
And when we challenge each other withthoughts, it can change how we think.
And I think that's pretty important.
That's why I like podcasting.
I totally agree.
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Likewise.
Dude, I, yeah, conversations,it's, it's beautiful.
Because conversations, if someone isinterested in the conversation for
the sake of conversation rather thanhaving a conversation to be right, then
that's, that's a different frame, that,that creates like a really good vibe.
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Yes.
Yeah, because that's, that'smy way of changing the world.
I'm not right, I, I have no clue.
I'm, I'm here to understand my world.
And that's what I'm lookingfor is better understanding.
And when I understand people better,I understand my world better.
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And that's what the DeadAmerica Podcast is about.
You know, we all feel dead sometimes,but I'm here to say, It's all what
we think, and what we consume,and how we choose to do that.
So, yeah.
It's exciting what we're doing, Kyle.
Uh, what, what, what plans do youhave for your podcast in the future?
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Well, presently, I'm taking a break fromthe podcast for this year, for 2025.
So 2024, I took a break.
Where now I'm focusing more on beinga guest on podcasts than a host.
And then, 2025, six monthsin I might, you know what?
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Honestly, I can't say with certaintyso I, I'm thinking that'll be
another break month, or year, sorry.
And then it's justfocusing on the practice.
And developing the, well, developingeverything, just making it awesome.
Well, that, that's a good thing.
You know, being on podcasts,that can actually make us a
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better podcaster in many ways.
I enjoy, you know, goingon podcasts and speaking.
Because the more we speak with others,the better we are inside of ourself.
Because we care about what's going on.
It's a big key.
Do you have anything you would like toadd to our conversation today, Kyle?
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Uh, yeah.
I'll leave, one thing that I liketo share and it's a mantra of
my own that I remind myself ofvery often, so I'll share it out.
And it's to keep up the kindness.
And uh, when I say kindness, I don'tthink of it as a feeling, I don't think
of it as an emotion, I believe that whenwe see kindness, we recognize kindness.
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And by practicing kindness, bypracticing being kind, both internally
and externally, and I would actuallyargue more importantly internally,
because then we're going to havea better external relationship.
When we keep up that kindness, peopleare going to feel that kindness,
they're going to give that kindness.
And the better that we cankeep up that kindness, the more
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kindness you're going to be.
I like that a lot.
Uh, Kyle, how can people find youand, you know, participate with you?
Sweet.
Uh, on any social platforms, I'mDapperDudeKyle, D A P P E R, Dude,
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D U D E, Kyle, K Y L E. And you canfind website links or anything there.
Uh, Instagram is the prime one where I'llbe able to respond the quickest there.
And shoot me a message,let's have a conversation.
Heck yeah, that's what it's about.
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I enjoyed our conversation today, Kyle.
It's always pleasant to, you know, havea deep conversation, get challenged
in your own thought, and recognizeothers for who and what they are.
And what you're doing isvery important to our world.
And I want to say thank you for that andthank you for being here today and sharing
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with us on the Dead America Podcast.
Thank you very much for having me, dude.
It was a pleasure.
Thank you for joining us today.
If you found this podcast enlightening,entertaining, educational in any way,
please share, like, subscribe, and joinus right back here next week for another
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great episode of the Dead America Podcast.
I'm Ed Watters, your host, enjoyyour afternoon wherever you might be.
Today we are speaking withClarity Consultant, Kyle Smith.
He has a podcast, Limitless Life Podcast.
Kyle, could you please introduceyourself and let people know a
little more about you, please?
Sure, sure.
Uh, like, like you mentioned,my name is Kyle Smith.
Uh, I'm a Clarity Consultant,that's what my role is.
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Uh, and I help folks get unstuck,celebrate their wins, and, uh, create
goals that inspire them, and getthem done in less time, in short.
That's, that's kinda nicebecause we all get stuck, and
we need help a lot of the times.
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I actually want to go on a massconversation with you, but I do want
you to cover what NLSE is for peoplebefore we get into our conversation.
Yeah, sure.
NLSE is a practice that I've developedover the last couple of years and it's a
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combination of story work and breath work.
It's to hit the brain and to hit the body.
And breaking it down, NLSE, neurolinguistic somatic experience.
Starting with the N, it's neuro, meaningof the mind, also of the nervous system,
the neurons, and specifically whatI help folks with is their mindset.
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And mindset is important, weunderstand that mindset is important.
However, there's not a workingdefinition, so it's ambiguous,
there's nothing to reference.
So I define mindset as the storieswe tell ourselves about ourselves
or our opinion of ourselves.
Now, when we have that, we canthink higher or lesser of ourselves
and we can adjust accordingly.
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Uh, so that's diving into the neuro.
Then the linguistics, the language,are the things that we say,
write, think, and how we breathe.
Breath is the language of the body.
So for the words part, with thestories, uh, what we say, write, and
think, uh, words, and before thisI was a personal trainer, so I used
fitness references, and this one is,uh, similar to how the physical body,
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is built up off of macronutrients,carbohydrates, fats, and proteins.
The quality of the carbohydrates,and fats, and proteins that we
consume is going to impact orinfluence the state of our body.
Our words are no different, words arethe ethereal macronutrients of the mind.
If we feed our mind quality words,we're going to have quality thoughts.
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If we feed our mind shit words,we're going to have shit thoughts.
And so it's getting people tothink about their thinking, with
the words that they're saying.
Uh, how about, uh, the breathis the language of the body.
When we're breathing high andtight, we're good to fight.
When we're breathing low andslow, we're good to flow.
So when we can take a second, andwe could be in a certain setting
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where we're good, we're comfortable.
And then we take a notice of ourselvesand we're breathing up into our chest,
we have shallow breath, and our bodycould be saying something to us like
there's something, there's something here.
And then we can look around,we can say, No, we are safe.
Big breath in, let itout and down, regulate.
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So it's like if, uh, if our physical bodyis like a child or an animal, it'll be
like look at this, look at this, look atthis, look at this, look at this, look
at this, and it's like, no, no, no, wedon't need to look at that right now.
Let's, let's calm it down.
Let's calm it down.
And so with the breath, we can talkto our body and our body can speak
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to us and we can have a conversation.
So that's how linguistics ties in.
Uh, somatic, soma, is of the body.
And that's the physical body, whichis passive, we don't need to really
actively get involved with many things.
So for example, uh, we cut our finger.
Our body is time bound, it'sgoing to heal itself over time.
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It doesn't involve us.
Uh, there's other aspects of our body,like the autonomic nervous system,
where we don't get any involvement.
It's completely passive, minus the lungs.
The lungs are the only thing that is apart of our autonomic nervous system.
So our heart, our breathing,our digestion, our recovery, uh,
bowel movements, all of thesethings are, we don't really
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need to actively get involved.
Uh, it'd be kind of weird whereif I was sitting here and I, I
was like, Hold on two seconds.
Okay, yeah, I totally stopped myheartbeat for those two seconds.
That doesn't happen.
The breath we can get in there, thebreath we can influence our body with.
Uh, and so the physical body, that'spassive, where we can just recover.
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And then there's the energeticbody that is timeless.
And the energetic bodywould be, uh, our emotions.
So emotion, energy in motion.
And that's timeless, it's not time bound.
So over time it doesn't recover itself.
So with those stories, those experiences,those moments, whether they hurt, haunt,
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taunt, annoy, they're ones that wewant to celebrate and create meaning
or we're working towards something.
They're gonna have, uh,feelings attached to them.
And if those feelings have lingered longenough, they're going to stay in the body.
And we could experience something fromdecades ago and we can experience it now
as if we're there, which is not accurate.
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And so when we go into the energeticbody and into the physical body and
into the mind, to be able to alleviateour body of all this pent up energy,
of all this negative narrative, allthis talk, uh, all the smack talk,
it's not even self talk, it's justsmack talk, when we start to filter
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through all those, then what happens iswe shift how we feel about ourselves.
We feel in the moment, different.
And so NLSE, Experience,E, it happens real time.
People feel the experienceand the emotions changing,
Uh as they do this practice.
I like that a lot.
I've, I've been studying andpracticing NLP for quite some time.
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And it really piqued my interestwhen that, NLSE, what, what is this?
So thank you for sharing that, Kyle.
It was very interesting.
Uh, I want to talk to you about our world.
Because I can tell Kyle is a verydeep thinker and, you know, the
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stoic thought really helps our world.
Mass overload, our world isjust filled with everything.
And, you know, we, we, consume somuch information, and luxury, and
goods, and, you know, beach tripsand everything is just massively
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overloading our sensories, our mind.
And I have found out over the lastten to twenty years, less is way more.
And, and if we bring it back to ourselfand we, like you've kind of laid out
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there, if we just slow down, and wedon't have to get involved with all
of that, and know that, that you'reokay if you're not part of everything.
I want to talk a little bitabout that and what are your
thoughts on that subject, Kyle?
That is such a cool question, dude.
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Uh, and it's somethingthat I have thought of.
Uh, I think that there is alot of noise and distraction.
And it's, I believe that when we aretrying to be a part of everything, we're
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not choosing to be a part of something.
Because we're spreading ourselftoo thin, and we're not going to
be able to, be able to be a partof the solution of the problem.
So what I find is folks want to bringawareness to everything, they don't
want to actually solve the problem.
So I think that what decreasesdistraction is when we find a problem
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that we actually want to work on,so our problem becomes our passion.
And when we're a part of thatproblem solving, then we don't
need to worry about distractions.
And, honestly, I heard this one, uh,my lady told me it the other day,
coach of ours actually shared it, andhe referred it to food, but I believe
it applies to everything, Where themore exciting life gets, and he said
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food, the more simple food gets.
We can expand that, The more excitinglife gets, the more simple life gets.
Or more exciting life gets,the more simple life gets.
And when we have all this informationand there's this perceived expectation
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to be a part of everything, Ithink that that's not helpful.
People can do that if they wish, butI don't think it's actually useful.
It's not being a part of it ifpeople are spreading themselves thin.
I think start one thing, solve theproblem, do the next thing, solve
the problem, do the next thing.
And have those problems be thingsthat you're really excited to solve.
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Because it alleviates a pain of somesort from either the self or others.
When it comes to the amount ofinformation, I think that it's very, it's
important to be mindful and intentionalwith the information that we're consuming.
Because if we're consuming information,mostly off of the internet, then
it's not personal information.
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It's personalized information.
We're just seeing information to validateour own perceived biases unless we've
trained the algorithm to do otherwise.
Because we can train our algorithm tofind information that we want to see.
And say I don't want to watch this,I don't want to see this because it
impacts me in this way, that way,or whatever and then removing the
distractions as much as possible.
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And by uncluttering and decreasingthe amount of stuff, I actually,
saying it with the similar idea ofstories, when we declutter the mind,
we have room to throw the party.
When we declutter our life, we haveroom to throw a fricking party.
And we can really likedo some good, good work.
Yeah,
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that would be one of mythoughts on it for sure.
Yeah, that, that's a good discovery.
Yeah.
You know, the, the discovery ofthat is very important for people.
And once they break free fromthe excitement and the overload,
they can really hone in andfocus on what they want to do.
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For instance, I have a big, big planof what I want to achieve, but I
can't achieve all of that at one time.
So I have to break that down andsolve one problem, like you just
said, finish that, get it workingand then go to the next problem.
And if I concentrate on eachproblem instead of every problem,
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pretty soon, every problem is solved.
And you have wasted no time on the spinof worrying about getting all of it done.
And I think that mass overload,because we're all bombarded with so
much in one day, and I see so manypeople rushing to get things done.
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I have to have this done today.
Well, I remember mycousin giving me a theory.
The 7P principle, Proper Prior PlanningPrevents Piss Poor Performance.
And I, I really, I reallybelieve in that principle.
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And once I took a holdof that, my life changed.
And I really think that planning and,you know, being proper and doing the
prior preparation, that's very important.
Totally.
Yes, absolutely.
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I totally agree with that.
And there was anotherthought that popped up here.
Uh, one point that I wanted tosay, there's a, a definition for
intelligence that I really like thathas its practical definition of it.
This was three weeks ago that I firstheard this, and I really like this one.
An, or uh, the definition of intelligence,an individual that can solve problems.
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The better the person is atsolving problems, the more
intelligent the individual is.
Yeah, that's good.
It's the same with leadership.
You know, you're a good leaderif you can solve problems.
And we, we realize solvingproblems, sometimes you need
a team to solve the problem.
And that's why communication isvery important, and understanding
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our world is about communication.
And our body is communicatingat all times, our, everything
that we do is a communication.
And a lot of people forgetthat in our busy world today.
There's, there's people really doingsome things that, I feel, is pretty
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detrimental to our society in many ways.
How do we handle the decline ofsociety while we try to fight for
the inclination of our society?
Ooh, a reflection question on this one.
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How am I contributing to the downfall?
How am I contributing to the solution?
You know,
because I, because if we're not activelyin it, then it's passively happening.
And I believe that when we're notdoing the thing, what happens is
we've veered towards psychic entropy.
We veer towards chaos.
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Chaos is the natural order ifwe're not imposing our own order.
And it's similar to if someonewere to look into the mirror, and
people can be upset with this,
I don't think it's that crazy, Ibelieve that when people look in the
mirror, they know when they're beinga winner or they're being a loser.
They know when they've improvedtoday and when they've slacked today.
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And I believe being honest, am I beinga part of the solution or the problem?
Because there's an idea thatI like where, uh, it's how
there's optimism and pessimism.
And a core characteristic of a pessimistis not seeing the potential in the future.
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An optimist is a personthat's a part of the solving.
An optimist is a part of theproblem solving towards the future.
So when someone's a part of thesolution, then they see the solution.
When someone's a part of theproblem, they only see the problem.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it takes teamwork tofix what's going on in our world.
And so, so many people are caughtup into a financial competition.
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And I, I really, you know, everybodyneeds money, but I, I think we all
need more humanity in our world, andunderstanding, and caring for one another.
And that means building trustand empathy at the same time.
And I'm finding that harder andharder to grasp in these days.
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And I'm, I'm just interested onother people's thoughts on that.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Uh, shift the focus.
I'm going to answer it on the flybecause this is a cool question.
The, the simple, and it's the simple one.
It'd be to shift the focus fromvanity metrics to metrics that matter.
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So we can, we can have like bankaccount measuring contests all we want,
but if the quality of the characterand the merit of the character is
not stellar, then it's not going tomatter how much money someone has.
Because I don't think that is theamount of money that brings out the
person, I believe that money justshows who the person was to begin with.
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Uh, and so I think that the focuswould be for decreasing vanity metrics,
and then it'd be increasing more ofthe fulfillment and the feels aspect.
So money is, there's numbers, it'stangible, it's scientific, there's
metrics, it's easy to measure.
How good someone feels on the insideis a little bit more difficult.
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And so when we have more people that areaware that they feel better in general,
and they're pursuing them, like the goalthat they want to, then people are going
to veer towards each other that way.
And so when we actually shift our focusfrom, or, we can even, we can maintain
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an importance of financials, and that'stotally fair, as long as we don't
remove the soul from the character.
The consciousness, the heart, the, it'skind of, it's similar to, other than,
other than, you know, Tony Stark'sactual response, but similar to Avengers,
Take away the armor, what are you?
Take away the money, who are you?
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Take away the Lambo, who are you?
Uh, give the person money, who are you?
Right?
Works in both directions.
Of course, Tony Stark's abillionaire playboy philanthropist,
but you know, you know, whatever.
I think when we take away thearmor, what's, what's left is the,
the truest version of ourselves.
And I believe that when things arestripped away and, even if it's not
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like literally, even if there's ametaphorical break, like let's say
it's a weekend retreat or a sessionor something like that where it's not
even of importance and it's about,or, communication, collaboration, and
elevation, then the, the group itselfis going to be a bunch of rock stars.
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Well, we're really caught up infinancial competition instead of
freedom of our mind, our soul.
And we, we really need to havepeople come together without
that financial competition.
How do we do that?
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Absolutely, I would say so.
And then I would also say thatthe vulnerable point could be
different depending on the person.
So someone could have all the financialaccolades while also feeling loss
in their own sense of, uh, theirown, they're, they're diving into
their own winter arc. They're divinginto their own, uh, dark story.
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They're diving into that pointwhere it's going to be like, this
is going to be the time to prove it.
Uh, and then on the opposite end,if someone has nothing, then that's
an opportunity to prove it as well.
I, yeah, that's how I would put that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so basically the, the best time toreally truly know who someone is, is when
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they're at their most vulnerable point.
Is that correct?
Yes, it's true.
It's true.
I actually have a, this is my ownlittle mantra, my own little story that
I remind myself if I'm really like,if I find myself in a, in the Stuck
and Suck, I remind myself of this,and it's, Pain is the blacksmith that
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forges us into the ultimate weapon.
We start out as iron ore, and we're allmisshapen, and we're in the earth, and
we're comfy, we're cozy, we're shelteredby the elements, and then either by
choice or by chance, we're found.
So either by choice or by chance,we're ripped out of the ground, or by
choice, we allow ourselves to be found.
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Ooh, that like flowed real well.
Damn.
Uh, yeah.
It hasn't flowed, it didn't, itdidn't flow that well in my brain.
Like, uh, a couple, well, last timeI said it, that one was way cooler.
Uh, and so, from that point, theiron ore is melted down, it's put
into, I'll use a sword as an example,it's put into the mold for a sword.
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Then that sword is heated up, it'sbeaten, it's cooled down, it's sharpened,
it's heated up, it's cooled down, it'sbeaten, it's sharpened, rinse and repeat.
Until eventually the pain thatthe blacksmith has incurred forges
you into the ultimate weapon.
You become your own Excalibur.
So you go from iron ore toExcalibur, and then from Excalibur,
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you have a knight that's ready togo fight the, fight the dragons.
And the dragon is in the way of the gold.
The dragon is the story,the gold is what we want.
And when we take that sword and wefight that dragon, we feel pain.
There's like an Uhh!
And that's because that dragon is ourpresent self wanting to stay the same.
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So by inflicting that pain, we're forgingourselves, we're sharpening ourselves.
And it's not crazy, it'snot a huge amount of pain.
And pain, when people think of it,it's like, Oh, it's excruciating.
No, it's just discomfort.
And just, it's all good.
It's all good.
I'm sure you've livedthrough crazier shenanigans.
Uh, and then from there, I actuallythink of it where rather than
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slaying the dragon, rather thanslaying the story, own the story.
Become the Dragon Rider.
So you get the Dragon Ride, you get to bethe Dragon Rider, and you get the gold.
And that's by taking the stories,owning the stories, and then allowing
them to no longer have power over us.
And we have power over them.
And stories are experiences, memories,moments, uh, traumas, hurts, haunts,
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taunts, ouchie stories, awesomestories, death stories, dreams.
I've done a couple things.
Yeah, it all builds into an inspiration.
And, and once you find thatinspiration, it is a passion.
And I found once you hone intothat and start doing it, that's the
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trick, doing it, and you turn thatpassion into remarkable things.
It can, it can change the world,even if it's one story at a time.
And that's kind of what we do withpodcasting, you know, we, we learn to
bring out the best instead of the worst.
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We can focus on all of that, butwhen we get on the microphone and
we start presenting to people,it's really about the passion
that we have to change the world.
There's something wrongin our eyes, our feeling.
And that's what we're trying to do,there is no competition in that.
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That's just, that's that community.
You know, when, when we find communityin that, that's when we really can
start being the best we can be.
Agreed, agreed.
And I do think that, like when we findthe community, it's also an extension
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of the work that we've done ourselves.
Uh, cause game recognizes game.
When people are pursuing somethingwhere they want to do their part to
be a positive contribution to thehuman race, then what happens is, when
we're that better person, then we'regoing to attract more better people.
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And those people that are not helpingus towards our, or supporting us
towards our pursuit, they will justfall to the side and that's okay.
And that's okay.
That's right, that's right.
You know, I, I have this muddy shoetheory and, We, we are like a shoe
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and life is like a muddy trail.
And the mud is people, places, and things.
As we walk down this muddy trail,you've been hiking before in mud,
I'm sure, and you know how heavyyour boots can get, sometimes it's
time to stop and wipe the mud.
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The good mud's gonna stay with you upin them crevices, they know where to be.
And the bad mud, it's, taketime often and scrape it off.
That way you can walk down that trailand make it further and have less
exhaustion because you're taking thetime to wipe the mud from your shoes.
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And that's the muddy life, muddyshoe life theory that I have.
So people, places, and things, they,they are the things that influence
us, control us, or make or break us.
And we need to be able to control that.
So wipe it off.
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That's, that's my theory of all of that.
Uh,
Yeah, you do.
I like people spreading thatbecause it really is the case.
The mud is people, places,and things, control the mud.
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So yeah, we, we reallyneed to change our world.
And I recognize from your podcast thatthat's what you're doing, you're out there
trying to influence people in the rightway instead of, to just grab their money.
And that really matters inour world the most today.
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And that's why I enjoyed whenyou popped onto the screen.
Yeah.
I want to talk to Kyle, that's for sure.
And getting deeper into what Kyledoes, it's kind of remarkable.
We, we have a lot of the mindset insync, and I think the focus is humanity.
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Mm.
Mm hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I totally agree.
And there was a translation thatpopped up in my brain when you
said, it was, Change our world.
Take out the L, Change our word,and add S. It's not Change the
world, it's Change our words.
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Mm. Yeah.
That's, that matters a lot.
Uh, I'm, I'm findingthat out more and more.
Because I used to not think aboutwhat I said, I would just flop it out.
And the harm that that doesto people that's close to you,
it really does matter a lot.
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So, you know, living life is, is a joy andyou can have abundance in so many ways if
you find, to be just a simple person inlife instead of needing to be a rock star.
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Let, let the rock star just happen.
I think that's a better way to flow.
I agree.
I like that, I like that quite a bit.
Yeah, allow the rock star to happen.
Yes.
Because then, because then itreally gets, yeah, I like that.
That's very nice, it's a good visual.
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Yeah.
So, so what is yourfocus on the world, Kyle?
What, what is the most disruptingpart of the world that you find people
need to focus on to implement change?
Uh, the problem that I see is alsoa problem that I've experienced, and
it was a dependency on the externalworld to fulfill my needs and desires.
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Uh, I think that there's, I think thatwe, now, couple points on this one.
No, actually no, going with this one.
A majority of what we learn in school iswhat to think rather than how to think.
And so when we leave school, we're stilltrained to just do what we're told.
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So when we go into theworkforce, it's basically an
extension of our school course.
Or school force, there we go.
And the thing that's dangerouswith that is there can be,
uh, internal, uh, conflict.
Because folks have been adopting storiesthat other people have said, you want
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to go to school, you want to go to postsecondary, you want to get married, you
want to, uh, have a job, you want to havekids, you want to have school, you want to
have a car, and then you'll hit retirementat the age of sixty-five or seventy.
And what you can find is that folkswill get to that end point, and then
they're going to be, they're not goingto know who they are because so many
other people told them who they are.
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So when we decrease dependence on other,on the external world, period, just
external world, when we decrease theexpectation for the external world to
tell us who we are, that presents us theopportunity to figure out, and not even
figure out who we are, it's to removethe stories that we've adopted to show
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the rock star, to show who we truly are.
Cause it's, uh, the stories arelike the mud, they're just adopted
stories that we've carried.
And then we can remove the stories andfigure out, and not even figure out,
I keep on saying figure out, but it'snot true, it's, because the person's
already there and it's just removing thelayers to allow that person to shine.
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And I truly believe that mostpeeps are well intentioned.
And
they have so much possibility andso much potential, and they have
so much heart, and they have such adesire to help, and they have these
stories that are, or these narrativesthat are lingering in their mind
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that is creating resistancefor them to make progress.
And it's a fear, it could be arejection, it could be a self sabotage
or procrastination, which I woulddefine as actively participating
and preventing our progress.
Uh, and when we figure out theresistance, remove the resistance.
Then we can allow us, ourself,with capital S, to shine through.
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So, it's the, I want
sovereign, savage servants.
I want folks that are autonomousout there, thinking for themselves,
knowing that they are on a journey,that they're bettering themselves,
they're continuously betteringthemselves, and they're bettering the
world around them as a side effect.
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The world is just going tohappen as a side effect.
If they're freaking crushingit, they absolutely can.
So I, it's the adoptionof other people's stories.
And another thing as well is,
when people, to get people thinkingabout their thinking, they become more
questions people than statements people.
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They ask more questions thanthey want to give statements.
Because when we start to thinkabout our thinking, we don't
have a biased uh, uh, concept.
And I think that it's, when you'rehaving a conversation with a person,
when you get three questions deep ina conversation, that's when you get
to the meat and the potatoes of whatthe individual thinks of, not what
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their cookie cutter responses are.
And when that opportunity comesup where they can show it, then it
shows them that they can do that.
So I believe that when people getto a level of consciousness where
they're helping and they're likebeing able to support people,
not force people to change.
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But supporting people in theirdecision to change, because we
can't force people to change.
That's silly.
If no one can force us to change, wecan't force another person to change.
Logic.
And so with the questions, we're ableto bring the, the, the person out and be
able to get more information and be ableto contrast that with our own thinking
to see where we may be faulty and wherewe're on point and be able to support.
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And if it's someone, if it's a heatedconversation, like, if it's someone
wild about whatever their thing is, inthat case, like, ask more questions.
Just listen and ask more questions.
Because when we ask more questions,then they have to substantiate.
They have to reinforcewhat their claims were.
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And once again, three questions in,if they don't know the deeper details,
they're not going to be able to, uh,last very long in the conversation.
That's true.
Yeah, I like that a lot.
You know, and, and the big partthere is when, when you do that
instead of responding, when yourespond with a question, it makes the
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individual think a little deeper, too.
And that actually de escalateswhen you are throwing questions
out instead of responses out.
Big.
You know, there, there's a lotof people that are very unaware
of that communication skill.
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So I, I applaud you for that.
What, what part of the world are wegoing to be part of is the big question.
Because there's the doers and the takers.
So I find that a lot of people makinga difference are doers and not takers.
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And what I mean by that is they'rewilling to give of themselves before
they expect anything in return.
How can we spread more of that valuein our world with our communication
like we do here on podcastsand on people's social media?
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Because I really think that'swhere this influence starts is,
if we can control the amount ofnegativity into our social sphere.
So, how do we teach people how to be morepositive in their presentations instead of
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all of the negative that we've beenwitnessing over the last several years?
Well, a couple parts on that one.
When it goes to the subjectiveindividual, don't pay attention to it.
Because then we're out of the loop ofit, so then we're not consuming it.
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So that would be like a consumption,being mindful of consumption
rather than mindlessly scrolling.
Finding something to havemindfulness rather than mindlessness.
Uh, so that would bethe, on the subjective.
And I believe that if someone was like,if someone was spending less time on
their phone and they were doing otherthings, they're just going to happen
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across being a more positive, I believe.
And then from the macro, uh, fromthe macro, I'm actually, I think
I might challenge you on this one.
I have an, this is an interestingthought is popping up.
I would not want to control anything onit because that would be the exact same
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thing as, so both all negative and allpositive on the extremes are delusion.
That's my thought.
So if everything, if everythingwas catered to positivity, then
we'd be ignorant of the negativity.
And if we're only seeing thenegativity, then we're going to
be ignorant of the positivity.
And yeah, and I think that that,that is a, it's a challenge.
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And so with that challenge,then it becomes more
intentionality behind the use.
Because I don't think that there'sanything, I don't think a tool is
inherently negative or positive, it's thepractitioner behind the use of the tool.
So we can have a hammer and ifwe're standing in line at the DMV,
holding the hammer like a phone,that's not a proper use of the tool.
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And a tool, and that hammer could be usedto build, or it could be used to destroy.
And so I think it's going to bethe intentionality behind, one, the
intentions behind the person posting.
Because they could be just negative,and if they're negative enough,
just like, block them, whatever.
Uh, and then, oh, where wasI going on that other part?
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So then there's the negativity,and then that challenge.
It is a challenge where, thenwe are more mindful behind
what we're consuming with that.
Yeah.
That's how I would take that one.
That's how I would go.
Yeah.
I think that's big, huge.
You know, consuming the proper things.
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Because, you know, I do go out, Iconsume on a research basis and I
run into a lot of things that I wouldnot normally even put myself into.
So controlling that influence isvery, very important in our life.
And I, I do want to recognizethat as a very positive influence
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on this talk for people.
Just learn to control what we consume.
And, and that doesn't only gowith information, that goes
with everything in our life.
You know, uh, everythingshould have a balance.
And our universe is balanced.
If it's off balance, there's storms andthings to set it back in to balance.
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So, it's interesting to havethese good conversations.
And when we challenge each other withthoughts, it can change how we think.
And I think that's pretty important.
That's why I like podcasting.
I totally agree.
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Likewise.
Dude, I, yeah, conversations,it's, it's beautiful.
Because conversations, if someone isinterested in the conversation for
the sake of conversation rather thanhaving a conversation to be right, then
that's, that's a different frame, that,that creates like a really good vibe.
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Yes.
Yeah, because that's, that'smy way of changing the world.
I'm not right, I, I have no clue.
I'm, I'm here to understand my world.
And that's what I'm lookingfor is better understanding.
And when I understand people better,I understand my world better.
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And that's what the DeadAmerica Podcast is about.
You know, we all feel dead sometimes,but I'm here to say, It's all what
we think, and what we consume,and how we choose to do that.
So, yeah.
It's exciting what we're doing, Kyle.
Uh, what, what, what plans do youhave for your podcast in the future?
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Well, presently, I'm taking a break fromthe podcast for this year, for 2025.
So 2024, I took a break.
Where now I'm focusing more on beinga guest on podcasts than a host.
And then, 2025, six monthsin I might, you know what?
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Honestly, I can't say with certaintyso I, I'm thinking that'll be
another break month, or year, sorry.
And then it's justfocusing on the practice.
And developing the, well, developingeverything, just making it awesome.
Well, that, that's a good thing.
You know, being on podcasts,that can actually make us a
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better podcaster in many ways.
I enjoy, you know, goingon podcasts and speaking.
Because the more we speak with others,the better we are inside of ourself.
Because we care about what's going on.
It's a big key.
Do you have anything you would like toadd to our conversation today, Kyle?
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Uh, yeah.
I'll leave, one thing that I liketo share and it's a mantra of
my own that I remind myself ofvery often, so I'll share it out.
And it's to keep up the kindness.
And uh, when I say kindness, I don'tthink of it as a feeling, I don't think
of it as an emotion, I believe that whenwe see kindness, we recognize kindness.
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And by practicing kindness, bypracticing being kind, both internally
and externally, and I would actuallyargue more importantly internally,
because then we're going to havea better external relationship.
When we keep up that kindness, peopleare going to feel that kindness,
they're going to give that kindness.
And the better that we cankeep up that kindness, the more
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kindness you're going to be.
I like that a lot.
Uh, Kyle, how can people find youand, you know, participate with you?
Sweet.
Uh, on any social platforms, I'mDapperDudeKyle, D A P P E R, Dude,
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D U D E, Kyle, K Y L E. And you canfind website links or anything there.
Uh, Instagram is the prime one where I'llbe able to respond the quickest there.
And shoot me a message,let's have a conversation.
Heck yeah, that's what it's about.
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I enjoyed our conversation today, Kyle.
It's always pleasant to, you know, havea deep conversation, get challenged
in your own thought, and recognizeothers for who and what they are.
And what you're doing isvery important to our world.
And I want to say thank you for that andthank you for being here today and sharing
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with us on the Dead America Podcast.
Thank you very much for having me, dude.
It was a pleasure.
Thank you for joining us today.
If you found this podcast enlightening,entertaining, educational in any way,
please share, like, subscribe, and joinus right back here next week for another
(45:37):
great episode of the Dead America Podcast.
I'm Ed Watters, your host, enjoyyour afternoon wherever you might be.
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