Bears 1 – Man 0: The Tale of Timothy Treadwell (Episode 173)

He thought they were his friends. They thought he was lunch. In this episode, we dive into the wild and tragic story of Timothy Treadwell — the self-styled “Grizzly Man” who spent 13 summers living among Alaska’s most dangerous predators… until one fatal October day in 2003. Equal parts jaw-dropping, heartbreaking, and darkly absurd, we unpack the man, the myth, the bears, and the audio tape no one will ever hear.

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Episode Transcript

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Live from Los Angeles. 911 What is your emergency?
Here in Hollywood now. 2. Counts of murder, injury and
death. Oh my.
God. Shocking new details.
That has stunned the entertainment world.
This makes me a little nervous. The hair stood up on my arms,
just like in the movies we call this thing anyway.
Death. Entertainment.

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Greetings, demo universe. How the heck are you?
My name is Kyle Plouffe. And I'm Jerry Aquino.
And I'm Ben Kissel, thank you all so much for joining us for
another fantastic episode of Death in Entertainment.
Today we're talking about a man who met his fate at the hands of
a grizzly, Timothy Treadwell. Don't tread on me.

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Indeed. Let's make like a bear and climb
this tree. Oh.
OK, that makes sense. The Alaska Peninsula brown bear

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or Peninsula grizzly. Peninsula, peninsula, Peninsula.
Yeah, OK. I like it.
Scientifically known as Ursus Arctos Gaius Hey.
How many names does this guy? Have.
It's a it's an apex predator. Sweet.
The opposite of the predators. They catch on to catch a
predator. Much like Randy Orton.

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Yeah, they're not apex predatorsat all.
No, they're like whatever the opposite of that is.
Beta predators, yeah. They live in southwest Alaska.
They typically weigh from 500 to1200 lbs.
That's quite a variance. Some big boys, yeah, while some
males can weigh up to 1700 lbs, actually.
So even bigger, yeah. They average from about 8 feet

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in length, 4 1/2 feet in height at the shoulders and 8 to 9 feet
tall on their hind legs. OK so can I just say this and I
want Jerryd opinion because we have discussed this a lot of
things going viral right now with women saying they would
rather spend a night or in life in the woods with a bear as
opposed to a man. You still think that's 1700 lbs
of pure fury? Yes.

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OK, this is exactly I will. I will say what I said to you
before. A bear's not gonna rape me.
OK, well, alright, we'll find out how the story goes.
Rip your head off. Yeah.
No, that's true. That's fine.
That's fine. Oh, I don't need.
I can. I can be taking the fuck out
when you RIP my head off. Yeah.
The other one is gonna be the the rest of my life in therapy.
True, true. Very praying mantis of it.

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Tear its head off, yeah. The Grizzlies can display
everything from golden blonde fur to brown to black.
Oh, often with white tips along the shoulders so they get their
fripped tips frosted. They get a little frosted tip
going on. Yeah, like Lance Bass.
And in a couple of years, they're kind of come out as gay.
Yes, and we're all very proud ofhim.
And we all knew. We all knew the entire time.

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What? A member of a boy band?
Gay. What?
No. They subsist mostly on a summer
diet, primarily of salmon, berries and grass.
Yum. I would love to have that diet I
know set. It's really good.
Salmon, berries and grass dinner.
It's super. Healthy.
Sounds like a Williamsburg eatery.

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Yeah. And then after that they
obviously go into hibernation. Even the OK, maybe I just am a
bear. You might be also salmon,
Salmon, berries and grass. Horrible name for a strip club.
Throwing it out there, if you'reif you're spitballing ideas,
don't go with that one. Don't do that one.
They live in Katmai National Park and Preserve on the Alaskan

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peninsula near Kodiak Island. Sweet.
That was the chewing tobacco we used to have as a kid.
Kodiak. Smells like straight menthol.
It really does if you get the menthol.
Right. The current total population of
this subspecies is believed to be around 4000 individuals.
Because they're each individual and special and unique in their

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own way. And many times they get confused
for a Sasquatch, but they are not.
They are not a Sasquatch, nor are they derivative of Sasquatch
which are real and they say there's 60,000 Sasquatch around
the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, there's, there's, there's
around 60,000. That was according to somebody I
met at the airport. Got it, Got it.
All right. Very credible.

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Got to be true. Yes, yes.
So we say all that to say this there was a man named Timothy
Treadwell. He was known as the Grizzly Man.
I mean, he really made his entire identity with like, you
know, I kissed those, right? Yeah.
But like, oh, oh, he was, he was, he was like a bear
whisperer. Yeah, his whole life was about
bears and bears and bears, but not the fun, sexy kind my

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brothers hang out with. Yes, yeah, I love me a good
bear. Mm hmm.
Very hairy. Yeah, it's a cuddle.
He is more like Timmy from SouthPark.
Yeah, Guy thinks he can hang outwith bears.
Kind of a little bit of a Timmy.I think they really like me.
We'll see how the story goes. We will.
Timothy Treadwell was an American lover, environmentalist
and documentary filmmaker. Sorry, American animal lover.

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He also was just a lover. And a lover.
Yeah, had a girlfriend. They always have girlfriends.
He's best known. Insane 'cause I don't.
I know I. Don't do any crazy hobbies like
that. And then they're they're always
like, well, my wife says that maybe I shouldn't jump off of
the roof into a tank of bears. And I'm like, why do you, how
did you get someone to marry youwith your with this train of

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thought? We're gonna find our ladies soon
enough, Jer. Risk takers.
He's best known for the 13 yearshe spent living among grizzly
bears in Katmai National Park, Alaska, where he earned the
nickname The Grizzly Man in his memoir Among Grizzlies Living
with Wild Bears in Alaska. We know, we know.
It's called among Grizzlies. He doesn't have to be.
It'd be like a living with Alaskan bear.

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Treadwell wrote that his commitment to protecting bears
began in the late 1980s following a near fatal heroin
overdose. Oh.
OK, Is it because he saw like a bear in a in a vision?
Yeah. Did a bear?
Did a bear save him? Yeah.
Give him the Narcan it was. Supposed to be a horse, but it
was a bear. Oh.
By 2001, Treadwell had gained enough recognition to attract

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widespread media and coverage and attention within
environmental circles. He became a visible figure in
wildlife advocacy, frequently speaking in public as an
environmental activist. OK, he toured the US giving
talks to school children about bears.
I mean, but is it the right message to tell kids to go hang
out with bears? Yeah, you could.
They're pretty cool man. Show up bears bro.
Get right up close. They teach you how to stop

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fires, that's true. And and then they teach you
about the dangers of cocaine. Also very true.
And by the way, Smokey the bear,he started all those fires.
Yeah. He sure did.
His name is fucking Smokey. Yeah, Yeah, well, arson is that
guy. He really did, yeah, keep the
business going. Yeah, he also made television
appearances on platforms such asthe Discovery Channel, line,

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NBC, which is where the predators, yes.
As well. And he didn't meet Chris Hanson.
Right. Yeah, No, he did not have a
seat. I always do love the idea of
somebody getting caught on To Catch a Predator being like, but
I put this on my IMDb right? So this is a credit?
Is a credit, Yeah, this is going.
To get me into SAG. Right.
The Late Show with David Letterman as well.
Oh wow yeah. So on October 5th, 2003, Timothy

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and his girlfriend Amy Huguenard, they were killed and
almost fully eaten by a 28 year old male grizzly bear whose
stomach was later found to contain their human remains and
clothing. Oh, so they had to kill the bear
and you took my Levi's? Wow.
Yeah, seriously. Life and Levi's.
Yeah, I wonder if somebody re bought those, I'm kind of

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unaware them. Like they're.
Yeah. Like, like they're currently at
a Goodwill right now. Yeah.
Like there was something to savefrom all the denim scraps in his
stomach. Real vintage.
Yeah, it's bare stomach acid, right?
Treadwell's Life, work and deathWhere where the subject of
Werner Herzog's critically acclaimed documentary film
Grizzly Man. Yes.
So let's talk about his life. Please.

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Timothy William Dexter was born April 29th, 1957 in Mineola,
Long Island. OK, why did he change it to
Treadwell? Dexter's an awesome last name.
Dexter rocks. Well, Dexter was always like a
nerdy thing. And then in Dexter's lab, Dexter
didn't become cool until, like Michael C Hall, yo was killing
people. Yo, hold on a second, push back.

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Dexter Dexter from the laboratory is a pretty sick.
Yeah, he's awesome. So I actually think Dexter,
Dexter and Herbert bring them back cool names as far as I'm
concerned. He was one of five children born
to Val and Carol and Dexter. They both sound like women.
Yeah, but Val Kilmer is also a aVal.
That's a man I. Guess in my head this is a

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beautiful lesbian couple. Yeah.
That's fantastic. He attended Kinetequat High
School. What the?
Hell, what is with this? This whole story is taking all
the words I think I know, Yeah, turning them into other words.
Yeah, it looks like it's supposed to be, said
Connecticut. Yeah, it's Co NNETQOT.
So I was like. The special needs cousin of

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Connecticut Connetquot. You better behave.
You're gonna hang out with your cousin Connetequot.
Connecticut dude. I don't fucking like
connetequot. He was actually the swimming
team's * diver. Oh.
So he's a risk taker, you know. Yeah, and diving ain't easy.
It's not. No, I always had a hard time
with it. It's horribly difficult.

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I always make a big splash. You're not supposed to.
I know. Yeah.
From an early age, he was obsessed with animals and even
kept a pet squirrel named Willie.
Come on, Lil Willie. Come on.
His parents say he was an ordinary young man until the
time he went away to college. He attended Bradley University

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in Peoria, IL, which is where I believe Slipknot.
No, Slipknot's from Iowa. Never mind.
Yeah, Mud Vein I think is Peoria.
I've been to Peoria. It's it's a hard knock place.
Peoria, you'd be surprised. It's got, it's built on
methamphetamine. There's a lot going on, a lot of
fast stuff. Happened.

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Oh wow. I did a comedy show out there
and that crowd was scary. Yeah, they didn't like me.
Like you weren't going to survive.
Yeah, well, I survived, but not I wasn't cool.
Yeah. So he went to that school on a
swimming and diving scholarship.Nice.
There he began making bizarre claims, including one that he

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was a British orphan and anotherone that he was from Australia.
And not British or Australian atall.
He ended up in Peoria, IL. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, Tim, what are you doing tonight?
I'm going to go have a sleep. Yep, but that was back in the
day where you could make up who you wanted to be.
Any random month you could completely change.

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It is weird that people just grift on like personalities with
they know other people aren't finding out about it.
Yeah. Yeah, that is really weird.
I'm glad. I'm glad that we can do that
now. I mean, you look at the guy who
killed that other person on the set of Rust, Baldwin.
Yeah, his wife. I mean, back in the day in the
90s would have been like. Hilaria.
Yeah, she's. Spanish, but now we know she's
not. Right.

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Yeah, we know. But she still doesn't stop.
I know it's insane. Like we know you're Hillary from
Boston. Serious.
Brookline, the most rich part ofBoston.
Hilaria, if it makes him feel any better, his life is a living
hell, so yeah. Poor guy.
After college, Timothy moved to LA, right here in Hollywood to
pursue an acting career. While struggling to break into

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the Hollywood scene, he worked as a waiter and bartender, as
many people do of. Course.
His father, Val, said that Timothy spiraled down and
developed a drug and alcohol abuse disorder after auditioning
for and losing the role of Woodyon the NBC sitcom Cheers.
Poof. Rough.
Wow, he wanted to be Woody Harrelson.
Yeah, Yeah, but you lost it to one of the most classic actors

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in American cinema history. Not yeah, it's pretty good.
So yeah, you're fine. Also one audition.
No. And that's what spiraled him,
Yeah. Seriously.
How many no's have we all had come about?
Literally hundreds. I've only had no's. 33 today.
Yeah, exactly. Get used to it, nosey.
Also, sometimes you see the thing that you got turned down
for and you're like whoo, dodgeda bullet.

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In 1987, Timothy legally changedhis surname from Dexter to
Treadwell. He must have hated his parents.
What happened? He's got something going on, OK?
It's a name from his mother's family that he had been using
informally for some years. I don't like that I'm a British
boy with the last name Treadwell.
Yes, OK. So two years later, he's, yeah,

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he's gotten away from the the whole Cheers fiasco.
Yeah, he got turned down one time, yeah.
So he, the newly renamed TimothyTreadwell, was inspired to visit
Alaska and observe bears after encouragement from a close
friend. I really think it's because he
didn't want to be around a goddamn TV set, because Cheers
was everywhere at that time. Right.
Also that they got. This point into the woods.

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Fuck you Woody Harrelson. I.
Want to see this reminded every day of my failures.
You were never going to be WoodyHarrelson.
Yeah, seriously. After encouragement from a close
friend to his friends, Like buddy, you just got to get out
of here. Just go.
Just go where? Into the woods?
You're missing. Woods go somewhere where there's
no other capacity, man. Exactly we're.
All talking about it over here. Maybe audition for the play Into

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the Woods. I don't know, Do something with
your life. He remembered fondly his first
encounter with a wild bear, A life changing moment as I would
assume that would be. I guess.
One that gave him a sense of purpose.
Treadwell credited his bond withBeer with Bears for helping him
overcome his struggles with heroin and alcohol addiction.

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Whatever works. Sure, I guess so, yeah.
A higher power. You need to believe in
something. Yeah, I missed that session when
I was at passages where you go blow a bear, but I'm sure it
works to get you off the. Booze scares the shit out of
you. Nothing can be worse than this,
you know. From then on, for 13 years, from
1990 to 2003, Timothy Treadwell would spend every summer living

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among wild grizzly bears in Katmai National Park in Alaska.
In the early part of each summer, Treadwell would set up
camp in an area he nicknamed Grizzly Sanctuary.
May I just ask, So he's homeless?
Yeah, exactly. Sounds like it.
Yeah, Yeah. It's a fluid situation.
During the winter, I'll go to a cabin.

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He's. In between homes.
OK. A stretch of bear grass also
known as the Big Green. It's in Hallow Bay along the
Kapmi Coast. OK, so he began to gain
notoriety for his unusually close interactions with the
bears, often approaching, touching and even playing with
bear Cubs. Which, oh wow, that's supposed
to be a no. That's actually he's.

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Crazy cause the moms will fuck you.
Out. Yeah, totally.
Absolutely, as they should. Right you grown ass man.
Play with my kids, get the fuck out of here.
Out of here. I'm not actually allowed to go
near national parks anymore. Sorry, guys.
I can't come to your bachelor party.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why? I'm on a registered cub list.

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Like what I mean for kids like Bear.
Like Bear I. Fucked a bunch of bear kids.
I can be around children if that's fine.
They they actually do nothing for me.
I hate them. I'd rather they have like a
snout. In his writings, Treadwell
asserted that he exercised caution and developed a mutual
trust with the Bears over time. That that entails 2 entities

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coming together and having an agreement that one won't eat the
other. Yeah.
In the later summer, Treadwell would relocate to Kafilia Bay.
OK, not to be confused with Mia Kafilia Bay.
Mia Khalifa Bay, I love that. I love Mia.
I love her. You do porn for three months,
next thing you know, what follows you?

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Yeah. Weird.
But it shouldn't, because she's a star in her own right.
She has been a star. I feel like she has definitely
shed that layer and she has. I love, I love.
She shed a few things. She did burka off.
Dude, she she is an awesome model, but there.
There was straight up a fatwa onher head.
There was, yeah, she was about to die.
There was a lot of hits on her. I'm really glad she made it out
of that. Seriously.

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Yeah, Well, we don't know if this guy's going to get out of
here. We do though, but we.
Yeah, we kind of do. So he would camp in a dense,
brush covered area referred to as the Grizzly maze.
You don't want to get lost in that.
You don't. Damn that sounds rough, but I'd
rather get lost in the grizzly maze than the human man maze.

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I mean, that's. The argument.
I know that I don't. I don't know.
I'm still conflicted on it because I think I'm a nice, you
know, I feel like we could have fun in the woods, you know,
whatever. You see, you see, a bear
wouldn't be saying any of this dumb shit.
A. Bear is too busy starting forest
fires and eating out of a picnicbasket.
Maybe I'm biased because I I know me and I know I'm kind of a

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nice guy, but I feel like we'd have a good time.
Come on, you're gonna smile a little more.
You don't look so stressed. You wouldn't say that.
This spot crisscrossed with beartrails, significantly increasing
his chances of close encounters with the wild bear.
Over the years, he captured hundreds of hours of video
footage, along with an extensivecollection of still photographs.

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I I will see the bathroom Cam heset up.
Yeah, that's a little out of line, a little much out of line
that cameras got covered. Kind of weird.
Treadwell's time among the bearswas often at odds with the
National Park Service regulations.
From early on, officials voiced concern about his conduct in the
park, and overtime he grew increasingly frustrated with

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their restrictions. Yeah, I mean, I think they're
trying to not have you be eaten by fucking bears.
Sir, you got it. You got to put your clothes back
on, Sir. You can't just.
I know the bears are naked, Sir,but that's different.
Well, we have a mutual understanding officer, so.
Sir, please put your underwear back on.
All right. According to NPS records, he

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committed at least six violations between 1994 and
2003, which is less than one a year.
That's actually not that. Bad.
That's pretty good for a guy whohas no regard for regulations.
Right, guess so. These included unlicensed
guiding. You can't guide without a
license. So he's taking people around me
like, hey, you want to see some fucking bears?
He is very lucky he's not the Stockton rush of bears.

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Well, yeah. For real.
He might be. Actually, he.
Didn't. Might be.
He didn't kill anybody. No one died on his journeys,
right? Yeah, that's true.
Ohh. They he actually he overstayed
the seven day camping limit which.
That. I guess that's too.
Saying that it's a seven day camping limit.
Yeah, you can't stay here forever.
Yeah, it should be like 2-3 days.

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Two days, tops. That's pretty much a saying.
Get your homeless ass out of here.
Exactly. Yeah, Seven days.
That's all you need to camp. He.
Was hit with improper food storage.
Oh, well, that's on that's. I think a lot of us have done
that. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Yeah, yeah, I've definitely leftpizza out and then woken up the
next morning and been like. Right in my mind.
Then I just eat it. Yeah, yeah.
It's. So a medium.

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Shrug. You wanna heat that up?
Nope. My buddy in college woke up with
a pizza. Piece of pizza stuck to his back
and he ate it. That's fuck yeah.
Wow, disgusting. He was on a leather couch.
That's that's gross. It's like back was like the
napkin that sucked up all the grease.
Yeah, now you're like, yeah, nowyou're eating your own skin
flake. You really are yummy salty.

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He was also hit with disturbing wildlife and disputes with other
visitors and guides. So he's getting people spaces,
being like, this is my trail. Ohh my.
God, wow. Wow, watch out for the
Treadwell. He's around these parts.
Like he started like the Airbnb experiences.
Out there. Without actually having one.
I love that. Also I'm done.
I've never did the Airbnb's but Jerry.

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They're so nice. Until you find out every doll
has cameras in it and they're watching you with 24/7.
I don't. There are literally no dolls.
Go in. Go in and make a sweep.
Do a sweep. OK.
All right. The worst thing that could
happen to you at an Airbnb is the movie Barbarian that Yeah.
And that is that's not that doesthat.

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That has nothing to do with cameras hiding in dolls.
That's a whole fucking corridor.Yeah.
Of creatures growing up underneath the Airbnb.
Yeah, that's that's what you gotto look out.
For if I go to an Airbnb and Bill Skarsgard's in there, I'm
getting the fuck out. You will get out.
Seriously. Absolutely.
He's out of Pennywise the Clown It.
Can't be. And yeah, he could be notes for
all too. Oh my God, he is a he's a great

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actor with that character notes for I don't know what they do
with. Him I don't know what the.
Hell, they messed up notes for all too.
And the crow. It was terrible.
I know they did and. He messed up the crow.
Yeah, with him. Yeah, I don't get it.
He's so talented. It's on everybody else but him.
It really is. But with Timothy Treadwell,
park, authorities were also troubled by his refusal to use
basic safety measures, such as installing an electric fence or

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carrying bear spray. They're bears.
Bear spray. Harriet, like Batman did in the
1960s, he had shark repellent. Also, you can go out to this
National Park and just install an electric fence.
I think it I guess so. Although he recounted once using
bear Mace, he expressed deep remorse over the bears suffering
and vowed never to use it again.I.

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Don't care. Damn, he felt bad.
I would feel bad. I would not want.
I'd want to want to spray a creature that large and then
watch him be like all like ohh, fuck my eyes.
Yeah, it's really sad. But I just feel like the bear
doesn't like him, right? Like the bear, like he's making
it all up. Yeah.
I'm not. I'm not saying he should fuck
the bear. No, no.

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I'm not saying the bear was. Saying he could.
Yeah, I I'm just. Saying I no, I'm saying as far
as spraying Mace in their faces,I can see how that doesn't feel
nice. Yeah, Mace to the face.
Also Grizzly Man Triple X. That porn parody was really,
really good. Really powerful.
But Treadwell? He believed that the Bears
accepted him because they never harmed him.

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And I don't think that's a good way to measure things.
That's not a good way to measure.
Things like, you know, the bearsare probably tolerating him,
right? But you can only tolerate people
so long before you're like, all right, this.
I'm fucking killing you today. Fucking.
It now. Also, they're full, right?
Because they're on a campground.They're eating everybody's honey
and whatever else bears eat. They're they're good, right?
As soon as there is a rumble in the tumble, they're gonna eat

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him. Oh, cute.
So on his side, he felt like he grew deeply attached to them
because he felt like they were attached to him.
Yeah. Yeah, wow.
He gave them names like Thumper,Hulk, Mr. Chocolate with Whoa in
This Climate, Pal, Squiggle, Czar, Grinch, and Boobel.
Wow. Fucking Teletubbies, what's

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going on? Yeah, no, that is totally what
they sound like. Sex offender I.
Actually, I used to have a stuffed bear that I called Mr.
Chocolate. Oh my God.
He was so cute. I would your favorite?
I believe it. I would be offended if he named
me Boobel. Boobel.
Boobel. Boobel 'cause my big nipples.
Why are you calling me Boobel, bro?
Yeah. I know someone named Thumper.

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Have you guys seen him around? I haven't seen him in.
A while I only know that from, Ithink, Twisted Metal, I think
there was a character named Thumper.
And for Bambi. Oh yeah, of course.
Yes, because I'm always thumping.
Oh my God, I just realized Bambiis a stripper name because
there's no mother involved. Yeah.
That's correct. No shit.
Yeah, I am. It's all coming together.

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It's. Bizarre.
Bambi was always met for a life in the pole.
Good for them. Thank you and thank you to all
the exotic dancers out there. For your services.
Big shout out to Candy. Absolutely.
Guys make Saturday night it's more fun.
Seriously. Treadmill expressed awe over
their massive frames, sharp teeth and the warmth of their

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droppings. I look how warm their shoes.
That's weird. I think I'm in love.
He's a fecal. He's a fecal filiac.
A fecal filiac, Yeah. Let me fecal filia oh that.
Is such a yeah. Me, me and Beth, we're really
getting close. I'm loving her smell and her

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hugs and her smell of her feces and the warmth.
Yeah, the temperature. Yeah, the warmth of it all.
When you can see it steaming, Ohmy.
God, yeah, baby steaming in the summer.
That's that's some steam. That's extra hot.
He would crawl on all fours, recite stories to the bears and
sing to them as if bonding with close friends.

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Not story, very telling story. I wonder if they were all bear
related stories. Bear and stain Bear stories.
Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of getting Liver King
vibes. I know he's not Liver King
Barry. Barry Liver King vibe.
The crawling on all four bit. Yeah.
All right. Yeah, being one with the bear,
trying to turn into the bear, Right.
There's a fine line between likethis and like, I don't know what

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Jane Goodall was doing. Yeah, because no one, no one was
making fun of her being like, she won't stop following rules.
She keeps hanging out. Fucking chimps.
Yeah, fucking all the. Chimps.
I used to talk about it all the time, how I believe she fucked a
lot of those chimps. Yeah.
My God. Yep.
Yep. She probably did.
God damn super villain. Yeah, took some of their fingers
and mashed them up in stresses. In places.

(25:22):
Yep. Scott Stevens.
Or the pickled monkey paw. Jesus Christ.
Thank you. In much of his self recorded
video footage, Treadwell would open with monologues that
started as nature talks but often shifted into personal
reflections or impassioned tirades against the civilized
world. Fucking cheers on TV.

(25:43):
Yeah, buddy, you missed out on one television gig, which was
maybe the most difficult to get in the time.
The last straw, it was the last straw sounds.
Like it was his only straw. Society is falling.
Not temperament. He does not have the temperament
for an actor. Actors.
Yeah. I, you know, for as much as

(26:04):
people, you know, shit on him and stuff, they the reason and I
do and we do, but the reason that they maybe come across as
little, a little conceited is because they're broken because
of the system that breaks you. And then it gives you a little
roll and then you're like, Oh myGod, I finally got what I
wanted. Yeah.
And then you realize that's not what you really wanted.
And then everything is still horrible and you realize it's
all, it's all you. Yeah.

(26:25):
Yeah, and then you're sitting there blinking with one eye
being like, I still believe in myself, I'm still awesome.
I'm the I'm the untapped talent no one's found yet.
I am the potential that they'll all see they'll.
All see see one day. Woody Harrelson can fucking go
fuck himself. Yeah, that super talented actor
who deserved it. Fucker.
Next thing I love passed where bears colon.

(26:47):
Oh, that's true, yeah. He claimed his mission was to
protect the bears, though they already lived in the most
protected bear habitat in the world.
Right. They're like, you know, you're
not in the wild, right? Yeah.
You're in a preserve. We keep telling you to go home
at 10. You won't fucking do it.
Yep, and they are bears. Not the wild.
With minimal threat from poachers, Timothy himself was

(27:09):
the only one invading the Bears territory.
Minimal threat from poachers. Again, no threat from.
Poachers. Yep.
In these recordings, he frequently expressed gratitude
to the wilderness, crediting it with giving him purpose.
Purpose and a sense of protection.
I mean that I believe again, sense of protection, such a man,
such a man come into some groundthat's already protected and be

(27:31):
like, you know what, I'm going to protect this.
Place I protect this land. I'm going to protect and it's
like, dude, it's fine. We're safe.
I don't know. I, I got No Fear.
I I've arrived. We are safe thanks to me and
this electrical fence that surrounds the entire area.
Right, Treadwell saw himself reflected in the bears.
They're misunderstood beings, misguided and mislabeled by

(27:55):
society. They're bears.
That's projection I think. They're very guided.
Mislabeled. I feel like we labeled them
pretty accurate. The Bears, he's like, you guys
are like losers like me, right? No, no we're not.
Literally the bear was like, no,I would have actually gotten
that role. I'm very charming.
I'll serve suds. Get to settle for the toilet

(28:15):
paper commercials. It's a hell of a gig, that is.
A great gig. It's a lifetime freaking gig.
It's been feeding his family, Yeah.
Yeah, they got dingleberries. Hires all of their kids when
they get old enough. Yeah, I I do agree with you,
Kyle. The dingleberry portion of the.
Dingleberry sucks. The little pieces of toilet
paper that stick on to the skin kind of sucks.
Yeah, but just don't, don't completely disintegrate as soon

(28:37):
as I'm right on the wipe. Yes, you disintegrate after the
wipe. Right during exactly thank you
Jim know. What I'm talking?
Of course. Living freely among the bears,
he believed they too could transcend human instilled fears
and embrace their authentic, loving nature a little bit.

(28:59):
In his view, aggression wasn't an wasn't instinctive, but a
kind of psychological distortion, something the bears
could overcome, as shown by their apparent tenderness
towards him. Treadwell himself.
It is like very instinctive, yeah.
He often spoke to the camera about his loneliness.
No, No way, Yeah. Insisting that while his

(29:19):
romantic relationships with women never lasted, he could be
affectionate and was sexually confident.
Never lasted or never happened. Yeah, true.
Yeah, I mean, I think he was married, right?
Or dating. God see like I said, everyone
with this, all these freak hobbies, they they all find
their person. Oh yeah, they do.
They do because they have one really interesting thing to talk

(29:40):
about. And so that's when when that
runs out, people are like, all right, I'm out.
Exactly. I mean, obviously she loved
bears for two, right? She had to have loved bears.
Or at least it's just one of those girls that are like, I
like whatever you like. Oh that's the worst because I
don't even know what I like and what I like sucks.
Yeah, yeah, very true. I do know.
I do know girls that have thingsfor bears.
Oh, sure. Like like the animals, they're
like I just fuck. I just want to like cuddle all

(30:03):
in them. I just love bears so much in.
Them, yeah. That's true.
That much? The truth was, on almost every
trip Timothy Treadwell took to Alaska, he brought a girlfriend
along with them but kept her offcamera and silent, giving the
audience the impression he was alone.
Like you fucking sit over there and you shut up.

(30:26):
Put on time out. Stay in the tent.
Right. Whether he was with a girlfriend
or not, he was never truly isolated from humanity while in
the National Park. Oh my God.
Also in the National he was convincing girls to come in and
fuck in his tent. He he would never leave the park
and go to like, I don't know, their house.
Right, right. He's.
Like no, no, no, you should comeout here.
Yeah, he's in a National Park. I mean, isn't there like, isn't

(30:47):
there a store? That is absolutely.
I don't know. They do they all.
They have little convenience stores in these national parks.
Yeah, you can go buy wood and chill like that.
Nice. They do, yes, I know you have to
like, travel out. Like a mile and 1/2.
Like 3 to 5 miles. Maybe 3 to 5 miles, yeah.
Maybe that makes more sense. OK, you.
Should drive. Yeah, go on.

(31:08):
Well, inside the park there is asteady amount of summer
tourists, nature lovers and wildlife enthusiasts.
He was also in regular contact with Park Rangers and officials.
Yeah, 'cause he's getting written up all the time.
Exactly. Yeah, Bill Sims, an experienced
pilot and lodge owner in the CatMy area, befriended Timothy from
the beginning. He kept an eye on him, assisting
him on occasion. One in the park just knows this

(31:31):
guy. They're like, whoa, whoa, park
Ranger. There's a guy we know that's
just, that's just Tim. Don't look him in the eyes.
He's harmless. That's why sometimes he's
moving. Sometimes in New York, somebody
who was, you know, living on thesubway, for example, would be
killed and then all out of the woodwork, everyone's like, you
killed that guy. That's our guy.
I know, right? And I had a guy remember the
guy. Do you guys recall the guy who

(31:52):
would come in and he would have the saxophone and he played it
all bad and he was like, I am soand so and I'm from out of space
and I'm here to rock. You just remember him.
He was on the F train. He got killed.
Oh fuck. And everyone was super pissed.
I was like, you killed my man. I know, right?
So he was like that, but for thewoods.
I see that. Yeah, yeah.
They're like, dude, that's fucking crazy.
Tim never hurt nobody. He was just out here trying to

(32:14):
romance, to serenade bears and shit.
He Timothy regularly sent letters and made phone calls to
known bear experts seeking information, recognition and
acceptance. So sad.
We are the same, you and the bear.
Community. Willie Fulton, a Kodiak air taxi
pilot, transported Timothy to and from Catmi, checked in and

(32:37):
out with him and dropped off supplies.
He's got people doing a whole lot of work for him.
Well, usually when you go on these crazy ass hikes, you do
need to like like plant suppliesand like mail things to yourself
in other places into the future.Yeah, really set it up.
I would imagine. I guess I never even thought
about that. Yeah.

(32:57):
On camera, Treadwell was trying to make his adventures seem more
romantic than they actually were.
All right. Is it like Bear Grylls where
they find out that all his locations were just off the
highway? And they're like, yeah, there it
was. There was that great Canyon he
couldn't get over. Right overtime, Treadwell grew

(33:17):
increasingly possessive of the bears and the territory he
frequented. He spent long stretches in
solitude, absorbed in his own thoughts, and grew suspicious of
others entering what he viewed as his section of the National.
Park What a nerd. I know I don't want to.
I don't want to make fun of the dead here, but come on, buddy.
Yeah, you don't own this. Right.

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He sometimes reacted aggressively to these perceived
intrusions, mimicking bear behavior by hiding in the brush,
observing people, and occasionally confronting them
with angry outbursts or threatening movements.
Threatening movement. Kick him in the nuts.
That's how you just right, rightin the ball sack.

(33:59):
When major film companies like the BBC arrived to film wildlife
documentaries, Treadwell disrupted their shoots by
shouting and splashing through streams to drive the bears away.
Oh my God, that is not nice. No, it's not.
It's so stupid. The only one that could like
hang out with the bears like. And it's also very possessive.
Yeah, it's like, you know. These bears were like, no, I

(34:20):
kind of wanted to do that BBC show, you know, it might be kind
of nice. National Reckon International.
You can't make it on Cheers, youcan't make it on BBC.
I'm not on TV, neither are you. OK.
By 1997, Treadwell's self-taughtexpertise with bears had become
unmistakable. His understanding of bear
behavior rivaled and often exceeded that of many
professional guides and specialists at the park.

(34:42):
Very few individuals ever reached the level of physical
and psychological ease required to live in such a demanding
wilderness where bears are frequently encountered.
Very rarely can a person tell exactly where the bear is solely
by the smell of their comma. Oh.
God. And the temperature of their
feces. That's right.
That's right. Among that small group, even

(35:03):
fewer attempt extended camping trips in bear country.
Achieving that kind of confidence requires deep
familiarity with bear behavior, something Treadwell had clearly
developed. Yeah, I do believe that, yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense. It makes sense that he he
developed some kind of like a like an inkling for their
habits. He's literally living as a bear.

(35:24):
His campsite was consistently well maintained and he followed
careful routines such as preparing and eating food far
from his tent. Really.
OK. Yeah, 'cause then attracting
them over there. Right.
OK. So he did understand that they
are kind of dangerous. Yeah, OK.
Overtime, the Bears grew accustomed to his presence and
typically paid little attention to him or his shelter, which

(35:47):
probably made him really sad. Yeah, it's.
Hilarious. Just like every Hollywood
producer. Yeah, we're aware of them.
I'm here too. He's just.
Yeah, just leave them. Doesn't have the IT factor.
Believing these habits had earned their trust, Treadwell
eventually stopped using protective measures like
electric fencing and bear spray,which he deemed to see, which he
deemed as unnecessary. It's very necessary, Very

(36:09):
necessary. Up until that point, Treadwell
primarily camped in Hallow Bay, AKA Big Green, occasionally
venturing into nearby nearby areas.
During this period, he wrote among Grizzlies living with wild
bears in Alaska. Again, we know.
We got it and he said. We got it.
Did I mention it's about bears? And living with with them OK

(36:29):
amongst in 1980. I am, yeah.
It's me. Who do you think you are?
I am. I am.
In 1998, he began dedicating extended stretches of time to
the Grizzly Maze, where his passion for filming the for
filming The Bears intensified dramatically.
OK, so his passion has intensified, yes and think?

(36:52):
Dick had gotten harder. Yeah, it's a whole nother level
of Dick hard. The conditions were ideal.
Strong salmon runs and abundant bear activity made it a prime
location for both observing and filming.
That's cool. I got the strong salmon runs.
That's. Fucking strong, dude.
Bro, pull over, pull over. I got the salmon runs.

(37:14):
Oh shit, that ain't good. Oh boy, that's going to actually
be cold shit. Oh.
My God. Refreshing at this time, Bear,
experts in wilderness guides whooccasionally came into contact
with Treadwell, began voicing concern about the message he was
sending to the public. He was under a lot of pressure
from the Park Rangers, who urgedhim to control his odd behavior.

(37:38):
Yeah, I urge you, please, pleasecontrol your odd behavior.
Quit being weird. How were you worse than the
bears? What's happening right now?
I'm going to say that to people at my bar.
Yeah. Like can you please control your
odd behavior? Seriously, everyone's going to
leave. Yeah.
He received tickets at this timefor the inadequate food storage

(37:58):
and possession of a small generator.
No, because he's living there. You're not supposed to live
there. Yeah, right.
He felt unjustly targeted by thePark Rangers of late, his
perceived harassment partly on those outsiders who brought
attention to him. Yeah, I'm actually on.
I rarely do this, but I am on team law enforcement, in this
case with the Park Rangers. Yeah, they're completely

(38:19):
correct. Right, get out.
Of and it sounds like they've let him do his thing for a
really good long while. Yes.
In September 2003, Timothy Treadwell was 46 years old.
He was camping alongside a stream at Grizzly Maze with his
girlfriend Amy Huguenard. Huguenard.
Huguenard. Long line of Huguenards.
We are the Huguenards. We are here to get eaten by.

(38:44):
The Huguenards, That family. Oh, the Huguenards.
The Huguenard. Yeah, they're one of the the
Huguenard boy, he wanted to wrestle, but his nuts couldn't
fit in the single. So actually, yeah, he's got to
play basketball. One popping out each leg.
Whoa. Amy was 37 years old.
She was a physician's assistant from Buffalo, NY And also, most
importantly, she was afraid of bears.

(39:06):
Oh, that is. Then why did she ever even start
with this guy? It was like, I'm pretty sure it
was just right there from the start.
Women are attracted to danger and the bad boy.
But he's not really. Yeah, but if I'm like, if I'm
like afraid of snakes, and I know you're like a snake man,
right? I'm probably, I'm gonna be like,
oh, this is probably not gonna workout for me.

(39:28):
Yeah. And my fears.
Also, for some reason snake men like to show their penises to
random people on their phone here.
Another snake. Snake.
I know there's snakes. I don't know something they.
Can't control their odd behavior.
Yep, there's a snake. There's a snake.
There's a snake. Here's my Dick.
There's a snake. That's a snake.
Yeah, it's the old, it's the oldtrouser snake.
They call it the yeah, yeah, snake.

(39:49):
So I'm more of a trouser turtle 'cause it's like, hello.
OK, I want to. Do.
BB Lettuce On September 26th, the pair arrived in Kodiak and
stored their gear for the next season.
They made their way to the airport to catch a flight home
to California for the winter, sothey, yeah, they just brought a
bunch of shit down and took off.Yep, couldn't even deal with the

(40:11):
winter though. That would have made you a real
grizzly man, if you if you stuckit out, Yeah, and slept like the
bear. And slept for like 3 months
which I can do Can you? I really do think that humans
hibernate a little bit during the winter.
I do hibernate. I hibernate a lot.
A bit during the winter, yeah, but also I hibernate a lot
during the summer 'cause there'snothing like a really good nap.
Nothing. When when the sun's out at like

(40:33):
4 PM. Yep.
And it's just like hitting the window just right and your bed's
like, oh man. It's like I'm just.
Gonna take a nap on this bed. Yeah, let's.
That's good. We're gonna be back in about two
hours, folks. Before I had my son I used to
love just like going missing fora week, shut my phone off and
just laying down. Yeah, like that.
Too, man. Now if you do that, you're like,
oh, Dad beat Dad. Yeah, the police are after me.

(40:55):
You're. Lazy.
Annoyed by an incident with an airline representative over the
price of the tickets. Oh my God, it's just the price
of the ticket. I didn't set the price of the
ticket. I am sorry.
Do you want to go to California or not?
Right? I don't want, I don't care.
Just get me. Just get me there.
Or don't stay here. Stay at the airport.
That's fine. Well, they he stormed away from

(41:16):
the airport with Amy in tow. They returned to their previous
campsite. So instead of hopping a flight,
he's like fuck you that price isbullshit.
Let's go back to my tent. Oh.
That sucks. It's like, oh, you mean back to
where the bears are that I'm notoriously really afraid of.
In the cold so when they wake upthey're gonna be all hungry and
shit. It's cold and it smells like

(41:36):
your ass. Oh my God, yeah.
Let's just go back there. I love it there.
There must have been some. I mean, I saw the documentary.
There is some charm to this guy.So oh, for sure.
I guess that's what she saw in him.
Maybe she maybe had a pretty huge.
Dick Yeah, let's go. So when they return to the
campsite, it's much later in theseason than usual, and at a time
of year when bears feed aggressive actively before

(41:58):
hibernating. Yeah, So of course he's like,
oh, beers aren't aggressive because he wasn't there for the
aggressive season, right? Ohh yeah.
Everyone's like, oh, people in the Midwest are so nice.
Have you seen them before they get the Golden Corral?
Have you seen them before they feed on the buffet?
Yes, Grumpy. Hangry they.
Are ohh. Hanger is real, man.
It's very real. I can't control my odd behavior

(42:20):
if I haven't eaten. It never happened to me, but it
like the last couple of months it actually has been happening.
Yeah, I get it now. This is crazy.
Totally. I'm fucking hungry and I'm
pissed. Yeah, the hungry thing will
really just just get shit out ofme that I I don't mean to say.
That's why Jerry has officially conditioned all of her friends
to provide food. Yeah.
And snack. Usually I, we have cookies for
her, but today 7/11 was out and I was like, Oh no.

(42:41):
I'm. Just tossing it.
Yeah, I do. I do.
I need snacks. I was like, she has emergency
peanuts. OK, this should get at least a
smile for an hour. Yeah.
That's true. That's why I know here.
That's why I don't touch him because the last time I touched
him, I just look at him now I'm like, I'm not even.
Last time you touched up, you finished him.
That's that was there was the one.
There was so few left. We're not even getting into it.
There's so few, there were so few left it.

(43:02):
Was a very large pack. It was.
We're gonna move on, OK? We're moving on to Timothy and
Amy. Yes, they they then scheduled
for an air taxi to pick them up at the camp on October 5th.
There's no way that was cheaper than the flight.
No way. Taxi.
But he got, he knew one of the pilots, so maybe he was like,
ah, this one's on the House. Oh my God.
What a cheapskate. Yeah, Yeah.

(43:24):
Isn't that what Gallagher, the comedian?
He wanted to do an air taxi service in New York, but it
never happened. Really.
That was literally gonna be his retirement.
Oh shit, I'm kind of really gladthat didn't take off.
Oh, he's doing prop comedy in that little plane.
You got nowhere to go. You'd fucking want to jump out.
Yep. Oh well.
That same day, October 5th, 2003, a Sunday, Amy wrote a

(43:44):
final entry in her journal. She said, Quote, today is a very
windy, meek day. There's a feeling in the air
that makes me a little worried for some reason.
She had a premonition. Even Timothy has seemed a little
off in a sense, but he is all pumped up about getting some
good shots with one of our favorite Bears.

(44:06):
Wow. Also, did you guys know
Gallagher is dead? He died like in 2022.
Shit, Gallagher. Yeah, yeah.
Do you know that? I was thinking of the other, the
Carrot Top. No, no, carrot tops of God.
Yeah, Gallagher has been dead. Yeah, Oh my God, his.
Brother is still alive I believe.
I did not know that. Gallagher 2.
RIP. She continues.

(44:29):
Looking at him right now, playing with the Foxes just
warms my heart. I wonder what next year will
hold for the two of us. Yikes.
Will we come back here or move to another location?
Oh no, you're going to stay there.
Oh no. I would love to see a new
section of the world with the new Grizzlies, but I know this
is Tim's home. He loves it here and would love.

(44:52):
This is this is this is The Cavethat Tim's mother gave birth.
Yeah. Raised by these bears.
And the bears ate the placenta immediately.
Oh, yeah. It was aggressive season then.
Yeah, she continues. He loves it here and would live
here all year long if he could. Well, he can.
He does. Yeah, sure.
He's lying to you. He sure fucking tries.
We can go back to California andwe could stay in my place, but

(45:14):
you mind if we stay at yours though?
Right. Do you have a house, Tim?
I'm just starting to wonder if you're don't have a house.
Yeah, I got a house. Never have a day of my life.
I just lost the keys, yeah, so Ican't go.
I can't wait to come back home soon and share all of my
research I have come across. Hoping I can get a few more
things about the Seals before calling it a day.

(45:34):
This are there seals? There, I guess there's some
seals. No shit I didn't.
Wouldn't expect that. Bears and seals.
Interesting. I'm sure the bears ate the
seals, right? That's a good idea.
That's. Good blubber for when you take
your big. Nap.
Yeah. Based on past experience,
Treadwell had prepared in advance for their departure,
knowing that if a break in the weather allowed the float plane
to arrive, they would need to beready to leave quickly.

(45:58):
So yeah, 'cause it's coming in right on the water, you got to
fucking get out there. Yeah, yeah.
That's a. Sink, I think a whole to do,
yeah. However, when it became clear
that poor weather would delay the pickup, he stored the gear
and food near the tent, either covering it with a storage tarp
or quickly setting up a separatetent for that purpose.
And that's not right 'cause now the food is near the tent.

(46:18):
Right, so the SO. The bears are going to be like,
oh, convenience store and that's.
Wild 'cause he's usually so goodabout that all the time.
He's getting lazy. This routine would have released
strong food odors into the area,potentially drawing the
attention of nearby Grizzlies. And he doesn't have his bear
spray. Nope, it's too unkind.
I know. In bear territory, human safety

(46:41):
depends heavily on the choices people make.
Bears rely on instinct, experience and sharp senses to
make decisions in their own bestinterest.
So humans must act in ways that also are in the bears best
interest. I do like that they're like the
bears best interest. Like it's, it's like currently
investing in Meta. It's like I'm just doing crypto
right now. It's in my best interest.

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Several factors may have also contributed to the fatal
encounter that was soon to follow.
It occurred late in the season, a period when bears naturally
grow more tense and aggressive due to dwindling food supplies
in the impending need to hibernate.
Poor weather conditions at the time, marked by heavy rain and
strong long wins, likely added stress in the environment.
A male bear. Yeah, tell me more.

(47:25):
Yeah. A male bear, later identified as
#141 She's like a. Prisoner.
OK, wow. Not to be confused with 143,
which is what, Mr. Rogers? That was his weight.
Because what's what's 143 stand for, Jer?
I love you, I love you. Seriously.
Yeah, Oh my God, are you too young for that?

(47:46):
Yes. No 143 I saw. 143 the
documentary. It talks in the documentary
about it. If you want to cry, watch it.
OK. So yeah #141 this, this guy was
new to the area and was not known by Treadwell.
He was curious about the tent and the possible smells coming
from it, both food and human. So it's just human ass and hot

(48:10):
dogs and he's hungry. I'm hungry for both baby.
It's it's hot dog and ass season.
The bear may have first been drawn to the scent of food
coming from the gear or the containers near the tent, and
likely was investigating the source.
In such conditions, even a bear that might normally retreat
could react aggressively if it feels access to food is being

(48:31):
threatened. Sure, Yeah.
So research from Yosemite National Park in California
indicates that while black bearscan often be scared off, that it
becomes much more difficult oncethey become fixated on food.
I yeah, I think that goes for humans.
Too, this kind of defense of aggression, known as cash
defense, is responsible for roughly 10% of all fatal grizzly

(48:53):
bear attacks. Damn.
Bear #141 approached the tent and Treadwell confronted it with
his usual approach to asserting dominance towards a curious
bear, making noise, hollering, running towards it.
Oh. Shit.
This situation with the bear being unfamiliar with him, along
with the rainy weather conditions which make it
difficult for bears to use theirsense of smell and hearing,

(49:15):
likely triggered the attack. Oh shit.
Both Timothy Treadwell and Amy Huguenard were then attacked and
dismembered by #141. Holy shit.
So this guy was a visitor bear, so he didn't know them at all.
He's like, I'm just visiting. Right.
So the other bears are like, oh,he's all right.
He's like weird and stuff, but we don't really fuck with him.

(49:36):
And this bear didn't get the memo.
He didn't get the memo but then.But then one of the bears like
guber was out on the side secretly being like fucking
finally someone told that guy toshut.
Up exactly the guy he named Bubly or whatever the fuck.
Like, thank God. He was like fucking final guy
had come into him. It wasn't going to be me.
I always said it wouldn't be me,but I knew it would fucking
happen. Exactly.
He's like Bob from Fight Club. Their deaths were recorded on

(50:00):
one of Trevwell's video cameras.Although there is no video
because the lens was capped, 6 minutes of audio was recorded
and their final minutes can be heard amongst anguished cries
and high pitched screams. The audio begins with Amy's
startled voice asking is it still out there, suggesting that
either Timothy had instructed her to start recording, or she

(50:22):
instinctively turned the camera on during the chaos.
By the time it was rolling, the attack was already underway.
Shit. Timothy's voice comes through
next, captured by the remote microphone he wore on his
coveralls. He was screaming to Amy.
Get out of here. I'm getting killed out here.
Holy shit. Literally.
Oh, this is followed by the sound of a tent zipper and the

(50:43):
flap being opened. Not cool, Amy, you had to go.
Gosh. Amid the background noise of
rain, wind and the ongoing struggle between Treadwell and
the Bear, Amy can be heard screaming, urging him to play
dead. A few moments later, she shouts
the same desperate command again.
Play dead. Hey, honey, you know I'm a
horrible actor, right? I I wasn't.
I didn't get cast in. Cheers.

(51:05):
How do I do that? I am playing dead.
I'm trying. Shut up.
Play Deader. Play Deader.
Deader. Deader.
Oh, God. Dang it.
Yeah, that's my inspiration. What is my motivation?
You're being dead. You're.
Getting mauled by a bear. I can't believe that.
Yeah, that's not. Oh no.
Amy's shouting appears to be momentarily interrupting the

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attack, and the bear retreats, at least for a short time.
A brief exchange follows, with Amy and Timothy trying to assess
whether the bear has truly left the area.
Get out of there. How are they?
Yeah. So they're like, I think he's
gone now. Yeah, and like all and.
They're just outside. They're just waiting.
Right, there's going to be a jump scare at the end.

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Given her background as a physicians assistant, it's
believed that Amy attempted to reach him to help him.
However, audio evidence reveals that the bear soon returned,
forcing her to retreat. So they had a chance to leave.
Yeah, it seems like they had a moment or two to get out of
this. But he was definitely like
bleeding. And yeah, he was fucked up.
Get out of there, yeah. At this point, Timothy can

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clearly be heard yelling that the playing dead isn't working,
and he pleads with Amy to hit the bear.
Oh, so much for caring about theBears.
Push comes to shove. How?
We want to hit the bear. All of a sudden the bear needs
to be hit. Mm hmm, pussy.
The noise of rain striking the tent and strong wind makes the
audio difficult to decipher at this point.

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Despite this, Amy can be distinctly heard shouting Fight
Back. What the fuck do you think I'm
trying to do? This, this is the worst of part
of the covenant I've always heard.
No, it wasn't the covenant, it was the revenant.
The Revenant. There it is, yeah.
It's also you can see her like getting less and less sexually
attracted to him. Yeah, exactly.
She's like, oh fuck you pussy. Fuck the.

(52:54):
Fucking bitch do something. God, you.
I thought you were a man, Tim. If you're gonna, if you're not
gonna play dead, you do something.
I'm gonna go. You know what I'm?
How are you doing nothing and still not playing dead?
It's. Disgusting.
Moments later, she yells what sounds like stop, go away amid
the chaos, the sound of a metal object believed to be a frying
pan. So she's going full Looney

(53:15):
Tunes. Exactly.
This can be heard as Amy began striking the bear.
This was followed by the agonized moans of Timothy.
At this stage of the attack, it's believed the bear had
Timothy's head in its jaws and then released it to clamp down
on his upper leg. Amys terrified screams pierced
through the background noise of the storm, while Timothy, with

(53:36):
Timothy still audibly conscious,pleads with her.
Amy, get away, get away, go away.
Fully aware that he was not going to survive, Timothy's
final focus was on trying to protect Amy from meeting the
same fate. Makes sense?
But Amy refused to go away. And why?
Yeah, go away. The final audio captured on the
videotape runs for approximately4 more minutes.

(53:59):
So this is all just like 2 minutes of time.
It's about 6 minutes total I believe.
Yeah, During that time, Timothy's cries and pleas are
audible nearly the entire time, indicating he did not die
quickly. You can hear the sound of
Treadwell's arm being torn from his.
Body. I fucking want to hear that.
I feel so bad but I want to hearit.

(54:21):
Yeah, it'd be like a chicken wing.
Probably. Yeah.
Tearing. And it probably is like a
chicken wing to the bear. Yeah.
Unlike some trauma victims who slip into shock or lose
awareness, Timothy remained completely conscious and fought
to survive throughout his final moments.
Wow. I mean, yeah, he was a bear.
Yeah, he was trying. He.
Was a grizzly man. The bear itself is eerily quiet,

(54:43):
emitting only occasional low growls and grunts.
So this is just like what? He's just playing with his food.
Yeah, exactly. The sounds of Timothy being
dragged away along with his fading screams suggest the bear
finally pulled him into the brush away from the campsite.
As the recording nears it's end,Amy's high pitched screams
become increasingly frantic. Larry Van Dale, a biologist with

(55:06):
the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, theorized that these
desperate screams may have triggered the bear to return.
Oh my God. And ultimately led to Amy's
death. Wow, she had every chance to get
out of there. I guess so.
All of the chances. He explains how her screams
resemble a predator call. Oh wow.
The type of the type that hunters use to mimic the
distressed cries of small wounded animals in order to

(55:28):
attract game. The audio then stops.
One can only imagine the sheer terror Amy must have
experienced. Frozen in fear, overwhelmed by
what she had just witnessed and heard.
Paralyzed and standing just outside the tent, she remained
there until the bear came back and attacked her next.
That is insane dude. Fuck yeah.

(55:48):
Well, the aftermath of this whole thing.
Their bodies were almost completely consumed.
Seriously. Yeah, it's a hungry bear.
Not much left of them. Willie Fulton, the air taxi
pilot from Kodiak, arrived the next day, October 6th, to pick
them up. Upon approach he all he saw was
a destroyed campsite in a large mare in a large male grizzly

(56:09):
bear. Upon further inspection, he
eventually spotted the few remains of the couple that were
left and reported the attack to the National Park Service.
Insane. He remembers that he saw a man's
arm with a wristwatch, along with Trebwell's disfigured head
and partial spine. Oh shit.
He says it's an image he would never get out of his mind.

(56:29):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I would.
I would pretty much be going to sleep and waking up to that
image in my head every fucking day.
Yeah, I guess at least you knew what time it all happened.
I'm dead. Because of the watch.
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
Yeah. The Park Rangers soon arrived
and found the male grizzly bear near a collapsed and shredded
tent, aggressively protecting a mound of dirt and twigs.

(56:51):
Wow. So the yeah, the bear was like,
this is mine now this. Is my shit now.
I found it fair and square. Come on.
For better or worse, the. Squatter's rights.
Squatter's rights. For better or for worse, the
Rangers were forced to kill the bear.
Yeah. So now there's three beings dead
because of the fuck of this guy.Bears are gonna bear, man.

(57:13):
Bears Bear. Buried underneath the pile, they
found what little remained of Amy, preserved by the bear,
perhaps for a later meal. Rangers performed an on site
necropsy. Necropsy.
Necropsy. Necropsy, necropsy, necropsy on
the bear it was no doubt #141 inside its stomach were found

(57:33):
fingers, limbs, other various human body parts and tissue.
Uh huh. Penises.
I'm sure his penis was in there.Maybe some little labia flaps.
It's fucked up. Consume most of him.
Yeah, probably it's. Insane.
Yeah, poor Amy. It remains the one and only

(57:54):
instance of a fatal bear attack at Catmine National Park since
the park was established in 1918.
Yep. Seven days.
Yeah. So I'm sure they're like, yeah.
So as long as you don't, you know, become extremely obsessed
with the bears and refuse to leave the park night and day,
think that you know how to handle them and think that
you're one of them to the point where you're like, just playing
with them all the time, then yeah, you're probably going to
be fine. And.
Giving them pet names. Yeah, and not get totally mold

(58:16):
and eaten by them. I wouldn't worry if you're not
doing any of that. Yeah, you're probably good.
Of like the movie Midsummer, he became he became part of the
bear. Did he?
Did a lying sack of shit. And he became, well, I guess he
never got to be fully flushed through the hot shit that he
always liked the bears, that he could have become the hot shit
he. Could have, yeah.
Yeah. Instead, he just burned.

(58:37):
Instead, he still was hot. Yeah.
After an investigation, the coroner and Park Police gave the
wristwatch to Jewel Palavak, an ex-girlfriend and business
partner of Treadwells, OH. Thank you.
Thank you. Thanks for this bloody watch.
Awesome. Right.
They're like, yeah, you can actually see when he was dying
because it like peaks when his heart rate is going up and then
fully fucking stops. Yeah.

(58:59):
Palavac had also co-authored a book with Treadwell.
In the case of his death, Timothy had bequeathed his
belonging star. He queefed what?
He bequeathed his belongings. I'll bequeath A belonging right
now. Want some of my.
You bequeath a belonging. Right now, like like this.
Wow. I'll do it.
OK, Sure. Yeah, you guys don't have to
bark. I'm having labia surgery.

(59:21):
You don't have the part. I'm getting labias on my butt
hole. You don't know if I have?
That I can queve. Oh my God.
He's they call it the old elephanteer.
Jesus Christ. These belongings included his
video camera. She now owns the rights to
Treadwell's Story and is credited as Co executive
producer in the 2005 Werner Herzog documentary Grizzly Man.
So she actually got work out of it.

(59:42):
Yeah. All right.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Yeah. One man's bear mauling is
another woman's book tour. How would they say?
In the years that followed, manyexperts expressed their opinions
on the life and death of Timothy.
Wesley Larson, a wildlife biologist who has worked with
every bear from black bears to polar bears, gave his opinion.

(01:00:05):
Quote in coastal Alaska or British Columbia where you have
these really great food resources.
You see a lot of bears in the same places because they're so
used to being around other bears.
They're not nearly as aggressiveor nearly as territorial as
bears in Yellowstone or Glacier might be.
OK. They treat us humans like they
treat other bears. In places like this.

(01:00:25):
They're really tolerant of humans because they're also
tolerant of other bears. Oh, so they're cool bears.
And they say they use people as almost as babysitters.
That's awesome. That's a quote.
That is fantastic. They're like, dude, the fucking
the Bear carnival is in town. I got my little guy here, but
it's all good 'cause there's a stupid family outside tenting.
Yeah, they're probably gonna feed him like pieces of fish or

(01:00:47):
whatever the hell they forget totie up in the tree overnight.
Yeah, I'm gonna be over there sucking up on some Mead.
My God, just a bear mother getting hammered having sex with
all these bear guys. Yeah.
Yeah, she's like, don't worry, that family is gonna take care
of You're fine. Yeah.
Wow, I'm gonna be over here on my unicycle.
Yeah. Adventurously babysitting,
indeed. He continues when talking about
Treadwell himself, he says, quote, as bear biologists, we

(01:01:08):
often say that you don't want tolet the animals make the
decision on how the interaction is going to go.
That's why having a deterrent isso important.
You want the bear spray because that gives you the power to
decide how that interaction is going to end up instead of
giving the animal that much power, which Timothy did.
In all of these circumstances, Timothy thought that he was the
dominant bear in the ecosystem. I'm sure his last thoughts were.

(01:01:31):
Oh, I fucked up. Oh, I fucked up.
That's gonna be all of our last tours.
Yeah, fucked up. Fucked up.
Yeah, John Rogers, owner of Cat My Coastal Bear Tours, met
Treadwell on many different occasions.
He probably fucking hated this. Guy.
I'm sure he did. You think?
It better than me, 'cause you'regetting paid to do these tours,
right? I live it.
Yeah. So on many different occasions,

(01:01:52):
he met him as a tour guide at the park.
He believed Timothy's true passion lay in acting and
filmmaking. So he's like you this you ain't
even about. He's a poser, yeah.
Oh wow, you're a poser bro. It's a high insult.
Surviving his first summer amongAlaska's brown bears gave him
not only a renewed sense of purpose, but also a vision.
This could be his path forward. If he could convince people that

(01:02:15):
these bears required his protection, he might gain the
recognition, resources, and financial backing necessary to
pursue the creative career he truly desired.
You're never going to be Woody Harrelson.
Yeah, I'm still not going to do that, buddy.
Stop. Who spent 10 years living with
and studying bears in Russia, collaborated with Treadwell on
occasion and offered him practical advice, urging him to

(01:02:37):
use pepper spray and set up electric fencing for safety.
Despite their professional connection, Russell later
authored A detailed critique of Treadwell's disregard for
essential safety measures. Still, while he was critical of
Treadwell's approach, Russell also acknowledged his deep
commitment to bears and expressed admiration for how
long he managed to survive amongthem.

(01:02:57):
Yeah, but like, oh, Ted Bundy had a deep commitment to women.
Too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was
definitely. And he also, and he also really
liked studying the law. Absolutely.
Good point. So.
Well, I'm just saying both to his detriment, yeah.
Both the. Same same with this guy with.
Acting in bears. Mm hmm, he defended him against.
People who criticized his work writing quote, if Timothy had

(01:03:20):
spent those 13 years killing bears and guiding toward and
guiding others to do the same, eventually being killed by 1, he
would have been remembered in Alaska with great admiration.
Yeah. OK.
Yeah. And if he was?
Yeah, like I. Don't know if his alcoholism.
If his alcoholism took him out first, he probably would have
been a little more respected in the bear community.
All right, it's unlikely, Werner.

(01:03:41):
Herzog would have made. A film about Treadwell, had he
not been ultimately killed by a bear?
Oh, definitely not. Well, yeah, of course.
Yeah, that's the story, right? Though Herzog presents Treadwell
as an enigma, he genuinely doesn't treat him like 1.
That's a great documentary. It is what they're.
Like I know first of. All I know this guy is kind of

(01:04:01):
special and unique for all the things that he did, but just
remember he's not got a basic yeah, fuck this guy and.
Verner in this too. He listens to the tape.
And he's like, you must never release this.
Oh my God. And they're like, oh.
Verner. You can imagine I'm trying to
hear it. You must.
Never listen to this. It sounds.
Disturbing. It is.
Yeah, the. Documentary shows little

(01:04:22):
interest. In Treadwell's internal
struggles or emotional complexities instead, Treadwell
becomes a cautionary figure, an example of the dangers of
projecting human meaning onto the natural world for Herzog
Nature. Is not sentimental.
Nor moral. It is wholly indifferent to
human existence and should be respected for exactly that
reason. I love that Grizzly Man includes

(01:04:44):
the last piece. Of video shot.
From Timothy Treadwell's camera,it's a scene showing himself
saying goodbye to the camera, the campsite.
Visible in the. Background campsite where he was
killed in the end, Wesley. Larson put it best.
Quote If you need to go live with an animal in the wild, get
a dog. Oh yeah, get a dog.

(01:05:04):
Everybody pretty much get yourself a little.
Domesticated version of whateveryou want to do.
Fantastic. All right.
That was fascinating. It really was very, very
interesting. Poor guy.
And that will lead us to final thoughts.
Final thoughts here. What are we thinking?

(01:05:25):
All right, I got a final thought.
If OK, they would have beaten the Bears top Bears if they were
the Green Bay Packers. Hello.
Let's go pack attack. Fuck the bears.
Let's go. Yeah, that's my final thought.
That's a great. Yeah, it was useless.
But thank you. Yeah, yeah.
Be careful. Be.
Careful what you wish for. Be careful.

(01:05:45):
What you wish, wish for you. Might be a bear amongst amongst
bears. Yeah, you might just make
yourself a twink amongst bears. Oh, let's be kind of a little.
Snack. Ate like a Twinkie, you know?
Yeah, well, my final thought is that.
I think that he should have a redo in his documentary that
that gives him a little more, that that gives him a little

(01:06:06):
more like substance as a person.Yeah, You know, Yeah, every.
Everyone is every one of us. People in Los Angeles, everyone
is a bunch of people that want to make it, that have their
little weirdo hobbies on the side.
True. Yeah, and those weirdo hobbies
might not kill everyone, but they did to this guy.
Yeah, the arts matter. The arts matter, I really.

(01:06:26):
Blame the casting director, yeah.
Whoever was casting in cheers, it's on you.
Cheers, casting director. Yes, yes, Jerry, we do contain.
Multitudes. But I think you should never let
one of them be making the mistake that you are in charge
of nature. Oh, definitely not.
You are not. No.
Yeah. Totally.
The only reason that we're the apex predator in the world is.

(01:06:46):
Because we invented a gun. Yep.
And that is it. That's literally it.
We have. We have heavy.
Large machinery that we can use,Yep, 'cause we are just little
piggies to those things. But.
Nature winkling, Yeah, Nature's a brutal force, man.
Mother Nature does not forgive. She does not fuck around.
Absolutely not. Yeah.
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