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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Some legends are born
in the spotlight.
Others are born in the backyard, bare-knuckle brawling next to
a rusty lawnmower.
Today, we honor the man, thehuman wrecking ball, kimbo Slice
.
Before YouTube was for catvideos and TikTok challenges, it
was a place where you couldwatch a bearded tank of a man
punch the soul out of someone'sbody in 240p resolution.
Before influencers were sellingprotein powder and crypto scams
(00:24):
, kimbo was out here handing outfree dental work with nothing
but his fists.
In a dream Back when thealgorithm was just.
Have you seen this dude knock aguy out next to a broken lawn
chair?
So grab your mouth guard, maybesome smelling salts, and
prepare to relive the legend ofthe man, the myth, the reason
your uncle thinks he can fightKimbo Slice.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
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Um, this makes me a
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The hair stood up on my armsJust like in the movies.
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anyway, death M Of
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Greetings Ditto
Universe.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Hi there.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What up?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
What is going on?
Everybody, my name is KylePlouffe.
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What is going on?
Everybody?
My name is Kyle Ploof, I'm BenKissel and I'm Alejandro Dowling
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Super excited to discuss thisman.
You've seen him on the internet.
Now it's time to get to knowhis story.
(01:50):
It's the life and, I guess,death of Kimbo Slice.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh yes, we're getting
a slice of life here, yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
I was going to say
that, but then I sensed it was
coming, so I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Nice, yeah, well, you
know what he sensed a lot of
punches were coming, so he wasable to win a lot of fights.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't know if he
really dodged many punches,
though he was one of those guysthat could just take a beating,
but then keep on ticking.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He could eat some
punches, and we're just going to
let you guys know that we are aabout death.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
we will have some
laughs, all right not at kimbo's
expense, though, because hewill come back from the grave
and beat the shit out of all ofus oh, absolutely hell, no, yeah
, no, just whoever kimbo was madat at their expense yes, true
just a little warning.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
It's gonna be brawl
or nothing, oh boy here, go,
let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, so Kimbo Slice,
that is not his given name.
Oh, he wasn't born Kimbo Slice.
He was not born Mr Slice.
He was not named after theorange soda.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Oh damn.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He was born, kevin
Ferguson, in Nassau, bahamas.
I didn't even know people wereborn in the Bahamas.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What do you mean?
You just think they hatch outof eggs.
Yeah, I thought it was justpeople that go on vacation there
.
I don't know anyone actuallylived there.
I will say kevin ferguson.
Yeah, not the name I expectedno that is a name of a nerd at
mit, not a backyard fighter inmiami that's true.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Yeah, you don't see
ferguson in ufc usually no,
usually.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Uh, he was born
february 8th 1974 and not much
is known about their time in thebahamas, but what I do know is
that he moved to the slums ofsouth miami as a child and he
was raised.
He had a brother, devon, andsister, renea, and they were
raised by their mother, rosemaryclark.
Okay, so the dad was not aroundall right, another one of those
(04:00):
I know it ain't right.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It's hard to be a
child without a father.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes.
And all of those people hisimmediate family nicknamed Kevin
Kimbo from an early age.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, I mean, I guess
Kevin Kimbo works out.
Maybe he likes to eat bimbo thewhite bread.
Yeah, kimbo.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Kevin, the bimbo,
kimbo and things.
They did not go as well as theywould have hoped.
Moving to a new town Becausewhen you go to a new place
you're like, oh, it's a newstart, this is going to be great
.
But being the new kid sucks.
I've been the new kid manytimes, because you can go either
two ways You're either themysterious new kid that people
like if you have some charmRight, or if you're like me,
(04:40):
with like no social skillswhatsoever.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I moved seven times
by the time I was in eighth
grade.
Now were these court courtordered?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They, they might've
been uh seven times by the time
I was in eighth grade.
It was absolute hell.
I got the shit kicked out of mewherever I went, so cause you
always have to like fight thetoughest kid?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Oh, it's prison rules
.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Middle school and
prisons.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
There, yeah, middle
school in prisons, there's a
venn diagram of as soon as youshow up, you gotta fight, yeah,
unless they deemed you coolright on arrival, like you're
either james dean or you'referguson from clarissa explains
it all right, or kevin.
That's what I thought of whenyou said that, for some reason
that red-haired brother.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I love it so he did
have to fight.
And you like.
At this point you don't have asecond to really become
socialized, you don't even knowwho you are, you're just in
survival mode constantly.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Right, and this is
Miami in the 80s and he's
growing up in sort of a poorarea, I'm sure there was a lot
of violence, a lot of gangactivity, things like that yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
People mess with him
all the time Because at the time
he was just kevin with shittyclothes and he talked weird
because he was from the bahamas.
Um, he avoided confrontation aslong as he could and got into a
couple little scraps, but at 13years old he saw an older guy
who was 26 years old, beatingthe shit out of his friend.
And it really sucks to be thisguy, because you have just
(05:59):
unlocked something in someonewho became a professional
fighter right, and because he,he, uh, he saw his friend
getting beat up.
That dude caught a legendarybeating 26 years old getting
beat up by a 13 year old dude.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's embarrassing.
Yes, you got him doubled up byage.
Oh, you can't go back and tellyour friends what happened.
No, you better make up a storylike you got hit by a bus or
something.
I was going to say you got toget a bus ticket to a new state
You're out of town and then this13-year-old boy came and he
wouldn't stop punching me in theface and I didn't know what to
(06:35):
do.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Hey man, or is there
a chance that he let him win for
fear of getting arrested?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
No, I don't think
that they were thinking like
that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
No, this dude caught
a legendary beating, and it was
Kimbo's first ass-whooping thathe ever dished out.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I love it.
He was defending his friend.
Yes, that's what we're supposedto do.
You're supposed to defend yourfriends.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, and the guy
thanked Kimbo, but Kimbo should
have been thanking that guy forgetting the shit kicked out of
him, because it allowed him tobecome who he would be so the
guy was getting his ass kickedand he's like thank you, kimbo.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, thank you very
much.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I would have been
like no, thank you.
Now I'm an animal, so let'sfucking go, let's do it, it's
his origin story.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
That's like when
michelangelo found the
paintbrush.
Yes, exactly, yeah and realizehe likes painting guys nuts I
thought you were gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I thought you going
to say pizza and you were going
to reference TMNT, but you'retalking about the painter, yep,
the naked guys.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
My references span
centuries.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Just a little bit
more hair on the left testicle.
I think we'll be.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Oh, very nice, A
little bigger.
There we go, god's going tolove this.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So people started to
learn that Kimbo was not the guy
to mess with.
Not only was he standing up forhimself and defending his
friends, he also started to turnthat aggression into success in
the athletic world.
He attended Miami Palmetto HighSchool, where he was the star
middle linebacker, oh wow, Icould see that.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Yeah nothing gets
past him right.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So if we know
anything from guys like brian
urlacher or ray lewis, themiddle linebacker is the
generally the biggest, toughestplayer on the field they're the
brains of the defense yesthey're the court, they're qb of
the other side of the ball yes,not only are they complete
brawn, but they are.
They got the brains yeah heends up graduating palmetto high
in 1992 and receives a sportsscholarship to the?
(08:27):
U, which is the university ofmiami.
The miami hurricanes what yearis?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
that 92, so this is
peak u.
Yeah, this is where the this isthe documentary is made about
the uh, early 90s university ofmiami.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Right, yes, and this
is a big part of the story,
because in 1992, before he evengets to campus, hurricane Andrew
makes landfall in South Florida.
So Hurricane Andrew was aCategory 5 storm.
It hit South Florida on August24, 1992.
School season starts inSeptember, so it caused so much
damage it became the mostexpensive hurricane in US
(09:01):
history at the time, withdamages estimated at $26 billion
.
Damn.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I remember that from
when I was a kid Hurricane
Andrew.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, yeah, I
remember Bob was like the winter
storm, andrew was the summerone.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Bob, hurricane, bob,
hurricane, bob, yeah, bob has
got a new man, hurricane Bob's,coming over.
Yeah, he's not as cool ashurricane dad, but I guess
hurricane bob is all right.
He's got a cool truck brings usto disney world, yeah bob
didn't catch on as much asandrew yeah well.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
In massachusetts it
dropped like three feet of snow
on us and does it smell likefarts around here.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, it's hurricane
bob bob uh.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So it made landfall
as a Category 5 hurricane, with
winds reaching 165 miles an hour.
Yeah, it destroyed or damagedover 25,000 homes.
I think some people perished.
It killed 65 people, wow, and,like I said, it was $26 billion
in damages, which wasn'tsurpassed until Hurricane
(10:02):
Katrina in 2005.
Sandwiches, which wasn'tsurpassed until Hurricane
Katrina in 2005.
So, when the dust clears, hishouse, his high school and parts
of his campus were destroyed byHurricane Andrew, forcing him
to live in his 1987 NissanPathfinder.
After the damage, the schooltightened up budgets and
scholarships, which one of hisended up being no more.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
They rescinded his
scholarship.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, Because of
Hurricane Andrew.
Yeah, they're like it.
Blew away.
Yeah, so his college.
Because of Hurricane Andrew.
His college, yeah, they're likeit blew away.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yeah, it's gone sorry
, it's over there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
If you can find it
and bring it back, kind of like
Lord of the Rings, you can comehere.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
but yeah, and how
meaningful the name of his
vehicle A.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Pathfinder.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh indeed, that's
what he was searching for.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But how do houses
flip over in this tiny little
pathfinder?
But maybe he was in it andthat's why it wasn't moving.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Even the storm was
afraid of Kimbo.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But his college
career ended before it even
started.
He ended up scoring a tryoutwith the Miami Dolphins, but
unfortunately they were notinterested.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Could you imagine
turning down Kimbo Slice to be
on your defense Right?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Even just the
motivation, because he was a
great.
He was a motivator in many wayswhen he would speak.
Right, you want that guy inyour locker room absolutely and
he's a good teammate.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I mean, he was
sticking up for his friend.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He's beating the shit
out of grown adults yeah, I do
wish the nfl would have a littlebit of like what the nhl does,
where there's just a person thatfights yeah, you just call them
into them into the game andthen there's guaranteed a brawl
and then they leave and they allhave CTE and they're all
depressed and commit suicide.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
But for that moment,
it's really fun.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
As a fan, it's really
fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I think with the NFL
there's already enough banging
heads going on that if you addedactual street fighting.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
There's more broken
hands off the helmets and all
that.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
There'd be a lot of
Aaron Hernandez's.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Hernandi.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Can't have too many
more of those.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So now he needs to
look for work because, you know,
his college dreams are gone.
They're in the taillights.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
So he goes to the
local McDonald's and applies.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Kind of something
like that.
He landed a bouncing job with astrip club because he was just
a giant human of a man.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That makes sense.
That checks out yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
At this time.
He was huge.
He was naturally gifted as anathlete, but he was also
enhancing his natural gifts withanabolic steroids.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Also I got to say I
don't really go to the.
As you know, my hoedays aredone, both being with and being
one.
Yes, okay.
But when you go to a strip clubyou know there's a person opens
up the curtain like fiveminutes.
You imagine you're getting alap dance and all of a sudden
Kimbo Slice just opens up thecurtain.
You're like five minutes.
You're like well, well, this isjust over, we can just end it
now because I'm horrified, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And it sucks because
he was really struggling.
He said he would work a 13-hourshift from 5 pm to 6 am and the
club would give him $30.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
What oh come on.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
This is 1993 money,
but still.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Oh, that's not so
that's at least $35.
Exactly, there's a lot of moneybeing thrown around in those
places.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I know they paid him
more and it was probably all in
ones.
It's disgusting, but that'swhat they told him.
They said you're opening thedoor for guys, so guys that come
in and out are told to give youa dollar when they enter an
exit.
But they weren't doing it oh,you got a tip.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, he's like I
hope, I hope I'm getting tips
from these people that arewalking in that's not on them,
though, though, come on, theowner should be making sure he's
taken care of.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Who knows to tip the
bouncer?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, well,
he's opening the door.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I mean basically but
you know, in a strip club you
just assume everything's a tip.
You go to the bathroom, you gotto tip a guy.
You're just throwing moneyaround in those places.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
One day his old high
school buddy, this guy, Mike
Ember, comes in and is like holyshit, Big Ferg, Because that's
what they called him.
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Big Ferg, we haven't
heard that one.
Yeah, it was Kimbo K-Duck yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So his family called
him Kimbo, but everybody at
school called him Big Ferg.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Big Ferg is amazing,
kimbo, big Ferg Slice.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So it had been so
long.
He's like it's great to see youand he's like what have you
been up to?
He's like I'm just working here, but I'm looking for more.
And he goes hey, I just startedthis company that needs a
bodyguard and a valet driver.
The name of my business iscalled Reality Kings.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Wait the.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Reality Kings, the
Reality Kings, the Reality Kings
, wait, the Reality Kings, theReality Kings, the.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Reality Kings that I
have no idea what that is,
because it's disgusting.
Naughty, because it's naughty.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes, if you've ever
been on Pornhubcom, you have
seen the moniker Reality Kings.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I'm starting to think
.
It's not really reality, though, and they're not really kings
no.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So he's got this smut
company that needs a driver,
and so Kimbo's driving pornstars around in his busted 1987
Pathfinder with missing windowsand his sweat on every seat.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's the business,
baby.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Do you think he opens
with this?
Survived Hurricane Andrew.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, they call me
Big Ferg me big ferg.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Uh, one night after
work, mike actually saw kimbo
sleeping in his car and he'slike what are you doing?
And he was just like ah shit,like I got caught.
This is where I live, oh man.
And so it broke his heart andhe was like dude, I'm just
starting this company, I don'thave a lot of money, but I could
have figured something out foryou, because it was like months
that he had no idea that he wasliving out of his car, wow.
But he said that kimbo was tooproud and didn't want anyone to
worry about him.
So that's when mike was like wegotta find a way to make you
(15:28):
some quick money yeah and he'sracking his brain for a while.
He's like I'll give you a call Imean, what about?
Porn, I mean that's, but ifyou're using steroids, you might
be lacking in the area you'resaying, the kimbo slice is a
small penis not the small penis.
It reduces the size of yourballs and your penis a little
bit, but it's more noticeable onthe balls.
Okay, but you also can't gethard as much anymore.
(15:51):
So, like when you're doingsteroids, you need to be doing
viagra and shit too or you couldjust stick a little hot sauce
up his ass.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Hey, hey, there we go
like pa odenkirk.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Oh yeah, the old
montana, the old montana,
two-step.
Hey, here we go.
That's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They put the ass into
basco so he gives him a call
and he goes can you still fight?
And kimbo goes yeah, and hegoes.
You want to fight a guy, a guyon camera today for 1500 dollars
and just to clarify, that'sfight, not fuck.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yes, yeah, the fuck
it's after yeah he goes.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
If you win, it's 3000
and he goes today.
Fuck yeah, let's go.
So the same day, kimbo's isfighting this guy, big d.
Who this dude was like?
Running through people in thesouth, just whooping their asses
on camera, destroying them.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Also a good porn name
, by the way, big D.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, and an
attribute yeah, so at this point
, the internet YouTube.
It's still in its infancy tosome degree, but they were
starting to show these fights.
Yes, so there was anunderground already that Kimbo
got plugged into.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yes, Mark out Mark.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh, you got me Go on
already.
That Kimbo got plugged into.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yes, so he's saying
to him hit me.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
When he let him take
those punches, where he just
took them without defendinghimself, I mean I was like what
the f*** are you doing?
And then, once the fight kindof got going and some of those
punches were landing, big D kepttelling him to stop or hold up.
I'm like, f*** this, you wanthim to stop?
That's cool, we'll go the otherway, because it wasn't about
beating him up, it was aboutjust winning whatever was at
(17:35):
stake Come on finish it bird.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Come on, finish that.
Win F***.
Stop playing s***.
Finish that, finish it.
What's?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
up Chill when you put
your hands up and go chill dog
that's it.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You're done, dude.
Okay, what are we fighting here?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
yeah, come on after a
certain point, I think big d
had enough, you know when hiseye was into his face and that's
where half of his name camefrom I guess, slice was one way
to describe how his eye lookedhe looked like sloth, yeah from
the goonies yeah, he made himlook like the toxic avenger baby
(18:15):
ruth
Speaker 1 (18:17):
wow.
So people were saying he slicedhis face up, and so that's
where the name comes from kimboslice, because that's what he
does to people he'll slice youhe definitely did so.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's a three
thousand dollar payday, yeah,
which is 30 times what he's usedto yes, so hopefully he didn't
sleep in his car that night sonow a star is born.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, kimbo slice, a
slice is made.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yes, it is.
Yes, it's a dirty business,though.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
There's something
about it.
It's not bumfights, which aretruly atrocious.
That's horrible.
Yeah, Because these are twopeople that are able.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Oh, totally, these
are willing.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yes, consenting,
adults.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yes, but it's still
nasty.
I mean, it's chicken fightingfor humans cock fighting for
humans yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
I'm not talking porno
, hey, there's a lot of.
There's a gray area, thin line,between porn and fighting.
I think yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So now this video
against Big D.
It goes so viral, it getsmillions and millions of views
instantly and Mike becomes hismanager.
Now he's like we're in thistogether Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
And to your point,
alejandro people don't get into
porn or street fighting becausethey're billionaires and super
rich.
You got to make some moneysomehow.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Yeah, exactly when I
was thinking of that pay raise
for that video.
He's ready for his moment.
I mean, this guy survived theworst hurricane in US history
and he was not accepted in theNFL and he's been struggling.
It's like fuck yeah, where do Istart?
Where do I hit?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, absolutely
Exactly.
So Mike is getting all thesecalls with offers to fight Kimbo
, ranging fromsemi-professionals to just
amateur guys that want to gettheir people just as famous as
he is now.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Just different
personalities than me.
Yeah, I just look at that guy'seyeball swelled out of his
brain.
Man, that guy would beat theshit out of me, yeah, and then
he got his ass kicked.
No, I'm good.
What's the guy's name?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Kimbo Slice oh, I'm
fine man, man.
So they end up getting a callfrom the totally not scummy
organization, the boston policedepartment, saying we got a cop
up here that wants to kick yourass.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
and this guy's giant
what the fuck is wrong with
boston?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
dude, they're such
fucking assholes.
Uh, the guy's.
The guy's name is sean gannonand he's a mountain of a person,
doesn't he have better thingsto do, like protecting and
serving.
No, he's trying to serve upsomebody else.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Serve a slice yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
This is going to
really take a lot of time away
from my corruption.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
That I really like to
do here with the Boston Police
Department.
My planting of evidence.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, so he's trying
to plant a couple punches on
this guy, but street fightingrules are very clear.
This is a fight.
No submission holds no chokes.
You're just swinging untilsomeone or both of us go down so
this there is no hoist, crazyno there's no like oh, he's
using muay thai.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
This is just a brawl
this is just awl.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
There's no stay away
from the face and the head.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, you're punching
each other almost exclusively in
the face.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
I mean, I thought
street basketball was rough.
Yeah, this is even worse, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
It's an entirely
different sport and much more
violent.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Right and has nothing
to do with each other.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, yeah, so let's
hear what the Boston Police
Department was up to.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
From the start, the
fight does not disappoint.
Gannon pulls out a martial artsmove called the guillotine.
Choke Sounds comfortable Instreet fights.
Choke Sounds comfortable Instreet fights.
Choke holds are banned.
Oh they are.
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Kimbo exhausts himself,fighting his way out of several
holds.
It was a moment where you sawthat he wasn't invincible, that
he was indeed human.
He wasn't invincible, that hewas indeed human.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Sean gannon got
beaten to smithereens.
His face requires several daysto recover but sean gannon won
the internet doesn't care,that's's such bullshit, dude.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
He was choking him
out and he fought his way out of
like five different chokeholdsand beat the hell out of the guy
, but the Boston police werelike no, we won.
And there's nothing you couldsay or do, so it's like okay,
the internet was like all right,fuck these guys.
Kimbo is still the man and welike him even more now because
you guys are pieces of shit.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Right.
Yeah, I don't like all thesechokeholds that officers put on
people.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, that's true too
.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
And for the
non-fighting fans out there,
that's kind of like when AdamLambert came in second in
American.
Idol Right, absolutely, buteveryone was like clearly he was
the winner.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, you know it's
much better not to win those
competitions.
You want to come in like fifthyeah, like, uh, what's her name?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
jennifer hudson yeah,
she was not the winner, then
she's an oscar winner suddenlyhey, that beautiful woman you
know so, and I was also thinking, to fight a cop like that's
also got to be cathartic forkimbo, because how often do you
get to legally fight a cop likethat?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
To a bloody pulp.
Yeah, he made him look likePumpkinhead too.
He was swelling all over theplace.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He put him in the
hospital for a week and Kimbo
didn't have to go.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, that must feel
kind of good.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, but he still
wanted the money, but they were
in the training ground of theBostonoston police department so
they weren't able to leave withthe money, which is so
infuriating he flew to bostonfor that.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Yes, that is such
horse shit yeah yeah, I mean, at
least he made him look likepizza.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
The hut from space so
I mean, it's like they pretty
much just straight up robbed himin front of the whole world.
Yeah, that's why everyone waslike all right, right, kimbo's
still the man and we like himeven more now because you guys
are fucking scumbags, mm-hmm.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
So that's cool,
though that pretty much he wins,
then yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He won the people's
opinion and, yeah, the court of
public opinion was on his side.
Yeah, so Kimbo and his team.
They started showing up andadvertising themselves at boxing
matches and MMA events, hopingto get some TV time.
They end up bumping into MikeTyson at an event and Tyson
recognizes him, goes up to himand he's like, hey, I'm a big
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fan.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Whoa, maybe slice me
sometime.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh my goodness, but
he goes.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But do me a favor,
say what you're doing, don't try
for the big time.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Well, I mean, it's
sort of good advice, he goes.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's all bullshit.
So like, don't try for like thebig stage because it's all
corrupt and sucks.
But he needs money and he goesyeah, but you made a hundred
million dollars yeah, but so thecop match was corrupt yeah,
exactly the cops are just likewe win.
Yeah, so would you rather win15001,500 or fucking $25 million
.
Right, let's think about thishere.
So he was like, yeah, thanks,I'm a huge fan of yours too, but
(25:33):
let me think about my owncareer.
But take a hike, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Man, if Kimbo was
still alive, I'd love to watch
him fight.
Jake Paul yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Jake Paul yeah oh man
, that would be awesome, but
then it would be sad if he tookthe fall like everybody else
does.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
He would have to
Gotta get that money, but at
least he would get his money.
So it'd be like big fur, it'salright.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
You gotta love the
Paul brothers, where they have
enough money to make everybodyfall.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
They can buy every
fight.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They really do.
Checks in the mail, yeah.
So that made him and his teampush even harder for
professional fights so they gotto start calling in an actual
training team.
Ufc champion and hall of famerboss rootin picks up the phone
oh, I used to fight with him inmy video game.
Oh nice yes, he's a legend andhe said he would take on a
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coaching role with his team see,see, that's what I was thinking
.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Why didn't the UFC
recruit them sooner?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Because they're the
elitist, they're like this guy's
trash.
He's not an actual fighter.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Really, even though
he clearly would do well in the
UFC.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
We'll see.
Yeah, ufc is a different beast.
Yeah, they definitely allowchokeholds, that's for damn sure
.
Yeah, beast.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah they, they
definitely allow chokeholds,
that's for damn sure.
Yeah, yeah, they want you to bea complete fighter, and at this
point, kimbo slice is only justpunching the shit out of people
, and that doesn't necessarilywork in the ufc right and ufc
was coming off the 90s and early2000s where everyone's like
it's a blood sport.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It's not even a sport
.
Yeah, it's savage.
You know, john mccain wastrying to get it banned
nationally.
Maybe, kimbo, they looked athim and be like maybe this isn't
the best representation.
He's a backyard fighter fromMiami.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
That makes a lot of
sense.
Actually it's before Joe Roganwas Joe Rogan.
He was just the fear factor guyat the time.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Highest paid actor on
television.
You know how much money he madefeeding people testicles A lot,
it was crazy.
He was the highest paidperformer on TV for like five
years.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, and for the
last season they wanted to bring
him back and he's like I'll doit for $20 million.
Think of the big.
Oh, never mind, they're like OK, jesus.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So the last season he
got $20 million of this
elephant, oh nice From theinside out and you're telling me
I get $10,000, whole dollarsbecause of this.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, well, you know,
after taxes and fees.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh, okay.
I'm paying to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yes, they said Bas
Rutten took a look at him.
They went through a wholetraining regimen and he was like
you already do have goodfootwork for someone with no
training, but they needed toteach him how to kick as well as
do other punches, because hedidn't even do a straight punch.
It was always like theseroundhouses that would just
crush people.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, I learned most
of my footwork avoiding big old
puddles of semen because I usedto be a bouncer at a strip club
and you step on cum at the startof the night.
You're going to smell like fishthe whole evening.
It ruins the entire shoe.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
How to pull off
submissions, not to mention
defend against submissions andblock attacks.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I was going to say
the defend thing.
You can't just get hit in theface constantly as your defense.
No.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
But he could take a
hit like no other.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, he was begging
for it.
He put his hands completelydown, being like hit me Against
the toughest guy in the backyardbrawling arena at the time.
It's so crazy.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
In some ways, isn't
that the greatest asset you have
as a fighter being able to takepunches?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
and not go down.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But for Kimbo all
this extra training would be
worth it.
Street fighting was getting him$1,500 or so, but at the lowest
levels of professional fighting.
At that time you're getting$7,000 to fight plus another
$7,000 to win, so financiallyit's a step up yeah, that's not.
It's not bad, no even though hedoes have to pay boss root and
other people in the thing, he'sstill gonna make a little bit
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more money and his cash is notcovered in.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Cum, yeah, strip club
or blood, yeah, very nice.
Wow, well, blood, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Fluidless cash.
Oh, you gotta love it.
What do I do with this?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Put a deposit on
something On it.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So at no point was
this in a labia, huh.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So he's also being
protected by the training, the
combat rules and just an overallhealthier lifestyle, because
obviously you're not fighting inbackyards, you know, drinking
beers or doing steroids orwhatever the fuck you're doing.
Yes, they found him his firstfight right away.
In 2006, slice signed to fightagainst former WBO heavyweight
(30:04):
champion and Olympic goldmedalist boxer Ray Mercer.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Oh, yes, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Slice was 33 years
old at the time.
Who would be facing a46-year-old Mercer?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Mercer.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
May.
Hey, yes, indeed, this is a bigdifference in age, but it
doesn't matter.
When it comes down to it,you're still fighting a
heavyweight champion and agolden Olympic boxer.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's still going to
be tough.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And 46, not out of
the realm of.
I mean, obviously he's not athis peak Right.
But you look at George Foreman.
He recaptured the title at likewhat?
45?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So you can still win
in your mid-40s.
Take it from me, I'm 43.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
He is so.
The match is scheduled as anexhibition, which just means it
doesn't count towards yourprofessional record.
Like I said, at the time, kimbowas training at the Boss
Rootin' School based in ThousandOaks, california, so he had to
move from Florida to California.
Out here and Slice and Mercerfought at Cage Fury Fighting
Championships 5.
Whoa In Atlantic City on June23, 2007.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
This is exactly what
Atlantic City is made for.
Yes, off-brand MMA yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
He had to play
catch-up.
Starting combat sports at 33years old is a tough journey.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
This man is making
his cage debut right here for
the CFFC.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
In Kimbo's first pro
fight against former boxing
heavyweight champ Ray Mercer,Kimbo was sent to earn $50,000
to fight with a $25,000 bonus towin Unprecedented amounts for a
rookie fighter.
It's a sign of Kimbo's internetpopularity.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
You'd be lucky as
just a general pro fighter to
make $1,000.
As a UFC fighter during thattime, $7,000 to fight, $7,000 to
win.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I knew what his worth
was.
Lots of MMA fans don't sharethat opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
People wanted to say
like, oh, he's not really even a
good fighter, so they did notexpect him to even win this
fight against someone who was aboxer and not an actual MMA
fighter as well, but he went inand wipes the floor with him in
the first round.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
That octagon ring was
really tiny too yeah.
There's not a lot of room tomove in there.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So you're in there
with him, wow.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Yeah, I didn't
realize that UFC was so elite.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah they are Slice,
ended up defeating Mercer.
With what A guillotine choke.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Whoa the choke, whoa
the irony.
Yes, I learned this from theBoston PD.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, One minute and
12 seconds into the first round,
they sold 20,000 pay-per-viewbuys.
He made some money and, like Isaid, it's not easy, even though
he was older, to take down aformer heavyweight champion and
an Olympic gold medalist.
In the post-fight interview,slice stated that he would like
to fight David Tank.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Abbott, this guy.
For those that don't remember,he was so scary, terrifying he
would just.
He felt you felt like if youlooked at him wrong in a bar he
would just beat the living shitout of you for no reason.
You wouldn't even know ithappened, you wouldn't even know
.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Anyone named Tank had
to live up to that name.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yep, yep, he was on
the Joe Rogan Experience.
Have you heard of it?
Anyway, now it's so bizarrebecause he's just an old man.
It's so weird and if you justsee him now you're like no way,
how could this guy be one of thescariest motherfuckers of all
time?
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, he was there in
the crowd and he was scary as
ever, and he stood up from hisseat and accepted the fight that
Kimbo Slice challenged him to.
Wow, and so this is how youbuild ratings and get people
interested, especially in thesesmaller leagues that we're
trying to get to the big time.
Yeah, so people were pumped forthat fight.
Unfortunately, that event wascanceled because of contractual
(33:57):
disagreements and all that stuff, but that allowed Kimbo to
actually sign with Elite XC,which was coming up, and it
would be the first of its kindregularly shown MMA federation
on one of the major threenetworks.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
That is one thing
that I will give Dana White
credit for.
He organized the sport.
Yeah, because the problem withfighting is there's no governing
body.
Yeah, so that's why we don'tget great boxing anymore, like
the matches you want to seenever happen.
No one wants to damage theirrecords, so yeah it's kind of
unfortunate yes, that fightwould have been amazing tank
(34:30):
versus kimbo that would havebeen a brawl yeah, they, this
elite xc.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
They were brand new.
They had a partnership with cbs, which was like just a really
weird deal, because you wouldthink that they'd do better on
fox with, like, the youngercrowd and you know, they got the
simpsons and yeah, fox is alittle more lowbrow yes, not in
a bad way just no, yeah.
So it's just weird.
It's like you got, you know,reruns of matlock and then it's
next you got cage fighting.
It's very, very odd followed byjag.
(34:59):
What?
Speaker 7 (34:59):
yeah, it was on for
like 20 years.
You never met anyone thatwatched it.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
No, no, that's like a
mattress store, where you're
like have you ever been in amattress store?
You're like, no, why do?
Why do they exist?
We don't know, I know, but weall have one.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Yeah, we all know
they exist.
So there's some weird frontwith Jag and mattress stores.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Something's going on.
Maybe that was the Weinsteintunnel of talent.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, at this point
Dana White and the current UFC
roster guys are saying howterrible of a fighter Kimbo is,
and not because they're lookingto like do business with him by
being like, oh, we'll challengehim to a fight.
It's because they were actuallynervous, because if elite xc,
they actually had theopportunity to overtake the UFC
because they were on an actualbroadcast primetime network.
(35:48):
Right, they were on, but UFCwas on like Spike TV and
pay-per-view only.
Yeah, yeah.
So they had to find theiraudience.
They were being given anaudience.
If Kimbo succeeded, they couldhave taken UFC out of business,
and so any chance they got DanaWhite and then the fighters were
paid to say Kimbo Slice sucksand they really trashed them.
(36:09):
It was just bad.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Right, that is just
not nice.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Yeah, it's not nice.
No, especially when someoneworks so hard.
Yes, and they deserve theirsuccess.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I also just don't
think he's a threat.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
He's a backyard
fighter, I don't know.
They could have worked with himand had one big UFC.
They could have gotten somemoney off this guy, right, well,
again, yeah, some money offthis guy right again.
Yeah, he's perfect for the ufcbecause he's trainable right
look at what he's like when he'snot trained yeah, and even if
he loses, the ufc is still goingto have those.
There's no refund on the ticket.
(36:43):
Yeah, right, so yeah, I thinkthat was a mistake by dana big
time, um, but yes and no, it's.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
It is a crazy head
that it comes to.
But before then, slice's firstfight was against Bo Cantrell at
Elite XC Renegade.
And how did Kimbo do?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
How did he do?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
He defeated Cantrell
in 19 seconds, so he beat Ray
Mercer in a minute.
He beats Cantrell in 19 secondsby knocking the guy into next
week, landing a variety ofelbows and body punches, and
Cantrell didn't land one punch.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So on February 16,
2008, Slice did get his fight
against Tank Abbott in the mainevent at Elite XC Street
Certified.
Oh, it's certified.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, by the streets.
Well, thank you.
I want to thank the citycouncil for certifying this
Street.
Certified, pretty cool.
Yeah, got a new stop sign overthere.
Do you know what ever thinksabout that?
I'm is your city council member.
No one thinks about the stopsign that I've put in, right?
You ever talked to a citycouncil member?
I?
Speaker 7 (37:45):
you know the paint.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
They'll be like you
know, the paint there on the
side of that.
I helped paint that.
I put that there sign that Imean I didn't do it.
I told somebody to do it.
I pointed that though I'dimagine be riveting that's so
interesting councilman yeah, youcan't park on this side of the
road on thursdays.
I did that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, there was
legislation up there so kimbo
beat tank abbott in 43 secondswhoa one of the scariest people
ever, and kimbo just wiped thefloor with him.
No shit done pro record two,and oh, not bad.
People also noticed that he wasslimmer because at the fight
his weight was announced at anall-time low, of 234 pounds for
(38:23):
skin very svelte very for him?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
is that good or bad?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
uh, it could be good,
it could be bad, but it lets
you know he's a little bit morefit, okay, because during his
street fighting days he was over280 pounds, and that's all you
know.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Anabolic steroids and
I wonder if you have a little
more uh meat on you, if it'seasier to take the punches they
say no.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, apparently you're
supposed to have the thing
called muscle so blubber doesnot block I don't the pain.
What the fuck?
I mean, that's what.
What it's bullshit.
What are we doing over here?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
so I've gained this
way for no reason, buddy, you
and me both I wanted to take apunch, but I'm gonna die like
houdini yeah, on may 31st 2008,slice fought in the main event
of the first ever mixed martialarts event shown on prime time
network television elite xcprime time against james
thompson and james thompson washuge, just giant, giant guy.
(39:21):
During this fight, people wereseeing kimbo as a human being
instead of a one-man wreckingmachine, because this dude,
james thompson, was working onhim.
He was so well something thatKimbo never was and that's the
crappy thing about being such aninsanely tough guy that has
supreme knockout power is thatyou never actually have to push
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yourself into getting goodcardio conditioning because
you're wrecking people in just afew seconds.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
And then when you hit
them with a knockout punch and
they don't get knocked out,that's got to be crazy.
Like oh wait, what Now did youknow you were supposed to fall
down?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, once you run
into someone with an iron jaw,
it's going to make life hell foryou.
So Thompson had just wiped thefloor with him for the first two
rounds.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And that actually
goes for porn too, Once you meet
someone with an iron jaw'sgonna be a rough day.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Ouch, can you just
lay off it a little?
But his coaches, they look overand they see that thompson has
the world's biggest cauliflowerear and they're like just punch
that.
Oh just, they're like don't,don't, let up on it, just punch
the shit out of that cauliflowerear dang you ever see?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
ever see Resident
Evil 4?
Yeah, treat it like one ofthose, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
So that's exactly
what Kimbo does.
The third round starts, it'sthe final round and just a
matter of seconds into the thirdround, kimbo punches the shit
out of that ear so hard it popslike a zit.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
If anyone hasn't, if
you want to just Google
cauliflower ear busted orwhatever, yeah, oh, it's
something gross.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Everyone from the
photographers to the judges, to
the spectators all got coveredin blood and pus from that
explosion.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Wow, this is what we
paid the money, this is what we
paid the big bucks for.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Well, don't people
like watching pimples being
popped?
Oh, I do, yeah, so this sort ofmixes genres here.
That's true.
You think it's an?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
ASMR thing.
Yeah, someone taking a sip oftheir beer not knowing, a bunch
of pus just went in it.
This Natty Light tastes somehowbetter, is it?
Speaker 7 (41:28):
weird.
Kimbo should have slurped it upafterwards, just to be even
more animalistic.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
He should have gotten
a contract with the afterwards.
Just to be even moreanimalistic, he should have
gotten a contract with the sodacompany For sure, soda pop.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
Yeah exactly, is
Slice still around?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
No, I don't know,
it's not.
I don't think it's not I don'tthink so I'll do some research.
Guys, don't worry about it, I'mon it.
We need to know.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Vanta is, I think, up
there now with the premier
orange soda.
Yeah, and Sunkissed, I think Idon't know, kiss this.
Hey that's what Kimbo told him.
So he followed it up with threeunanswered punches to the
standing Thompson, which led thereferee to stop the fight in a
very controversial win for KimboSlice.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Wow, and Slice Soda
is still around, whoa Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
And Slice Soda is
still around.
Whoa hey, so now he'sundefeated.
Speaker 7 (42:20):
Three wins.
Controversial what?
Because it was so messy.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Because he was
getting his ass kicked, because
he was, yeah, he was gettingdestroyed.
And then he was just like I'mgoing to pop your ear and then
it bleeds everywhere.
They can't stop the bleeding,so they then it bleeds
everywhere, they can't stop thebleeding, so they call the fight
.
Yeah, what are you gonna do?
It's the last man standing.
Yeah, I mean, he was actuallyshowing technique, right?
Yeah, yeah, what can you do?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
place on the punches
where they needed to be, placed
that guy shouldn't have had somany uh cauliflower here, right
so nasty, made a stir fry out ofhim.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
You know, good lord
so now they need to step it up
against a big name.
In late 2008, Kimbo was set tofight the most dangerous man in
the world Dan Severn.
Ken Shamrock.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Oh Ken Shamrock oh no
.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Ken Shamrock, yes,
wow, he sounds dangerous.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
He sounds lucky.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
He is dangerous.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
He's a little green,
though, yes.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
He's just like green,
though.
Yeah, he's just like three anda half feet tall.
What am I supposed to do withthis?
Oh, you'll see.
Speaker 7 (43:22):
There was a porn star
with a similar name.
By the way, what Shamcock?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, yes indeed.
So let's hear what Dana Whitethinks about this bout.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
Kimbo versus Shamrock
.
You're one of the first peopleI thought of when that fight was
put together, because I couldjust imagine if you were flying
the wall.
What are your thoughts on thatbout?
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Ken is way past his
prime.
It gets to the point where it'sdangerous for that guy to still
be fighting.
That being said, he still mightbeat Kimbo.
Kimbo sucks.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Thank you very much
for your time.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
You suck dana come on
, bro, he would not let up.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
Not let up on it, he
can be a real prick, but is that
a bit of wrestling, so to speak, a little performance?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I would assume so,
because at this point dan and
white, he just kind of got incontrol of the ufc.
He sees everything ascompetition.
So I would assume it's kind ofkayfabe-ish.
But also you take thatseriously because that's the
boss.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
But also interesting
because you two started off the
podcast saying you wouldn't wantto insult Kimbo to his face.
No, but look at Dana, hedoesn't care.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, he's not doing
it to his face.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Did they meet?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
You know they're past
, Mike Cross.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, okay.
But this fight against KenShamrock.
It's heavily advertised, peopleare pumped for it, they do
interviews, talk and smack backand forth, and it even gets all
the way to the day before thefight to do a weigh-in.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
This is professional
radio.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
So when they're
supposed to square up for the
pictures, you know where theyput their dukes up and everybody
gets the pictures.
Before the big day of the fight, kimbo actually turned his back
To Ken Shamrock and Shamrockshoves him and the two start to
tangle up.
But then the entourages getinvolved and every the
entourages are fighting eachother I love that and it's, you
know, classic.
But kimbo was doing it for thecameras to get some attention.
(45:23):
Shamrock was for real becausehe found out just before that
weigh-in that he was gettingpaid way less compared to kimbo.
Some asshole let it slip andthere was a pretty vast
difference.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
But shamrock agreed
to the amount he got yeah, also
ken's gonna have a huge careerin wwe.
He's making millions of dollarsyeah come on, let kimbo have
his money exactly so.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
He has a dispute with
the elite promotions that night
, but they stand firm and sayhe's not getting any more money.
We're locked into a contract.
So on october 4th the next day,2008, the Kimbo Slice versus
Ken Shamrock fight was scheduledto take place at the Bank
Atlantic Center in Sunrise,florida, as a part of CBS's
Saturday Night Fights that is socrazy.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
This was on CBS.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
I know it's so weird.
I don't remember CBS doing that.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, I don't either.
It's very odd.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
They used to play
Howard Stern reruns on Saturday
nights too Did they really.
They had an exploratory periodwhere they wanted to get out of
the Murder.
She Wrote crowd yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Right.
However, two hours before thefight is even supposed to take
place, the stadium's alreadyfull.
The event has already started.
Ken Shamrock comes in beinglike I just got back from the
hospital.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
He received a gash to
his left eye during warm-ups in
his hotel room.
Why the fuck are you doingwarm-ups in your hotel room?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
This has got to be a
joke.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
They said the cut was
so straight when they looked at
it that it looked like as if itwas done on purpose with a
sharp knife or razor.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
He cut himself.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
So he's a cutter?
Yes, I mean in pro wrestling,that's how you make yourself
bleed.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
You get color is what
they call it.
Yeah, the red blood.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Maybe he learned from
some of his future peers.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
But he knew, since he
just got fresh stitches, that
he was not going to be allowedto fight.
So that left the head of fightoperations, Jeremy Lappin, to
choose a replacement.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
And does he get to
keep any of the money?
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Shamrock yeah no.
Speaker 7 (47:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
No.
Speaker 7 (47:22):
So stupid, then I
mean, it would have been good
publicity yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
You know, maybe he
was scared.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
So they had options
from earlier in the card.
They had two guys, sethpetrozzelli and aaron rosa, that
they could have swapped fightsand went against um, went
against kimbo and then ken goes.
Well, what about frank,shamrock, you want to fight
frank?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
that's his brother.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, and they go no
we're not fighting your brother,
dude, get the fuck out of frankstallone of the shamrock.
Seriously, quite literally.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
He was a badass.
He was a badass though, yeah,frank Shamrock.
Oh, okay, yeah, but he wastinier, so I don't know how that
fight would have gone.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah.
So Slice's team stated they didnot want him fighting Frank, no
matter what or how much moneywas offered to them.
So Lapin decided thatPetrozzelli was the best option
for the main event.
Petrozzelli was offered $60,000for the fight, plus $40,000 for
the win, plus an extra $20,000if he knocked him out.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
So $120,000 if he got
a knockout win.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
And what's Kimbo's
take home for this?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
He was originally
scheduled to make like $200,000,
but because of the delays andthe controversy surrounding this
, they had to find a replacement.
They agreed to give him$500,000.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Very nice.
It's his biggest payout to dateand for the rest of his career.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Win or lose, right?
Yes, guaranteed $500,000.
I'll go get knocked out for$500,000.
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
I'd take the
$1,500,000 right now.
Petrozzelli defeated Slice in14 seconds oh no.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
So this is kind of
the mike tyson moment.
Where is he ever going to comeback again?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
yeah, so kimbo was
like so on edge because they
were saying you're fighting,you're not fighting, you're
fighting, you're not fighting,you're getting 500 grand.
Okay, now you're in there andhe's like ah, he's like I
thought I wasn't even going tobe fighting tonight.
I don't even know this guy, Idon't know his technique, I've
studied no tape on him.
And so he gets clipped likebarely in the jaw and it looks
like it's a knockout.
(49:22):
But his son went on and talkedabout this in depth.
His front knee just kind ofcollapses and he goes straight
to the ground.
But it's because his tendons inhis knee snapped at that point.
So he really didn't get knockedout.
He had to get knee surgery,which no one even knew about.
They tried to keep it silent sothat they didn't know that he
was hurt.
You said, kimbo's son.
(49:43):
Yes, okay yeah, so 14 secondsinto the first round he's
knocked out um tko.
It was such an insane turn ofevents and so stunning that the
promotions company was actuallyinvestigated for putting on a
fixed fight wow, more like tk noyeah, indeed they.
But if you're really askingyourself that, why would that
(50:04):
benefit the company?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
no, I at all, it
wouldn't.
I can't imagine anyone washappy about this.
Speaker 7 (50:09):
Everyone was pissed
yeah, it wasn't even a good
fight to watch, even yeah, itwas yeah terrible.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
They ring the bell
and it's over.
Yeah, they were eventuallyfound to have committed no
wrongdoing, but the damage wasdone I'm sure the bookies were
happy to make other arrangementsoh yeah, I'm sure nobody got
murdered over that seriously,why are we?
Speaker 3 (50:29):
there's a run on
cement, yeah there's a run on
cement.
Yeah, there's a run on cementhere at the Ace Hardware.
What happened?
They said they're making shoesout of them.
Yeah, weird.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
So Elite XC had to
file for bankruptcy and go under
Because of this one.
Yes, they lost so much money onthis fight.
Speaker 7 (50:47):
So it all goes back
to Ken Shamrock.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I wonder if it was an
inside job.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
So here's the rumor
From Dana White.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Here's the rumor.
Since Kenny Boy was a good oldUFC boy, he actually is rumored
that he did it on purpose, atDana White's request, oh, to
help sink the company once andfor all.
It's never been proven, but Ican certainly see that as being
true.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Dana White definitely
benefited.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, mean vince
mcmahon tried to do this shit to
uh dana white.
Like the people who are incompetition want to steal, you
know, your people away from youand they also want to make your
people look weak.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yes, and obviously
pro wrestling's different.
Yeah, but what vince would dowhen someone was leaving the
company was kind of bury themright make them look bad in the
ring, give them a cornynygimmick, and then, when they
left, they're like, yeah, goodriddance.
So Kimbo certainly is now muchweaker than before.
Speaker 7 (51:39):
And the entire event.
You know it wasn't UFCaffiliated, so just to make that
look bad too.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Right.
Exactly because that was hiscompetition that he was really
worried about.
Speaker 7 (51:48):
Because like I said,
they were on primetime national
television CBS.
That's like a stamp of approvalfrom the masses.
Yes, and that's what Dana Whiteis yearning for.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Right.
And so when this happens, eliteXC goes under and, all of a
sudden, dana White has a changeof heart.
Oh, and he's like Kimbo, I'dlove to offer you a UFC contract
.
Oh, that's sweet, but you'dhave to earn it, like all the
other schmucks on UFC's realityTV show, the Ultimate Fighter.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Oh, you're going to
do the Ultimate Fighter.
I remember that show.
It was a good show.
Yeah, rampage Jackson yes, Iremember him yeah, so they made
him.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
You know like you
want to get in on this.
You yeah, so they made him.
You know, like you, you want toget in on this.
You got to dance, yeah.
So kimbo was like all right,fine, and he was chosen number
one overall by quinton rampagejackson.
There he is, and even though helost his match that you know,
rampage set him up for him.
He was the only one that wasallowed to stay on the show and
kept training seriously and, uh,eventually earned himself a
(52:49):
contract through the ufc, eventhough he technically should
have been eliminated for losing.
Okay, and this should be likethe pinnacle of his career, and
in a sense it is, but this islike where the fans are, this is
where money could be yeah, butyou really have to stand out as
a performer but is kimbo lookingto get into the ufc?
Speaker 7 (53:10):
oh yeah, or like
that's what he wants ultimately.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
He would love to be
the heavyweight champion of the
world UFC fight.
Speaker 7 (53:15):
I wasn't sure.
Maybe he has higher aspirations, Maybe he wants to do his own
league or something Well at thatpoint there was no Jake Pauls
of the world out there doing$100 million fights.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
At this point he's
reached the top.
If you become the heavyweightchampion of the world, that is
the top.
Speaker 7 (53:33):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, but he ends up
fighting six times in the UFC
and goes four and two Okay,which is totally respectable.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
But when he lost his
last fight, dana White was like
that's going to be it for him.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
That's just the way
it goes.
Speaker 7 (53:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
I mean that's one
issue with the UFC.
It's so hard to follow one ofthe athletes because again they
can get knocked out in 10seconds.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden,they're gone and you're like
what happened to that guy?
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Turnover rate is so
high yeah.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
You remember when
Conor McGregor fucked up his leg
and it was just like oh yes.
It was the biggest bummer oh.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Biggest bummer.
Oh yeah, Like it was just overnothing to see.
If you want to have fun, alsocheck out Andrew Silva breaking
his leg in all the wrong places.
That's nasty.
Have you ever seen that,Alejandro you know I'm trying to
think Kicks the guy andliterally his toe touches the
other side of his leg, and it isnasty.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, it's like that
ball that you hit on a rope and
it just swings around.
That.
Yeah, it's like that ball thatyou hit on a rope and it just
swings around.
That's what it looks like, yep.
So in August 2010, kimbo Slice,at the age of 36, announced his
retirement from MMA competitionto pursue a career in
professional boxing.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Oh, he's going with
boxing, that's really not
retiring Right.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Well from MMA.
Speaker 7 (54:48):
From MMA yes.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, and Dana White
did end up becoming a huge kimbo
slice fan in and out.
Of the ring.
Nice, he was like he was.
You know someone to behold inthe ring and he's a.
He said he's a fantastic humanbeing, one of the nicest people
he's ever met in his life I wasyeah, but then he let him go, oh
yeah I mean, that's justbusiness, yeah, but I feel like
kimbo could have had a career incommentary.
(55:11):
He probably could have Right,yeah, because he was kind of a
character.
Right he was, and he wasn't badon the mic.
Yeah, you're right, he was likea very charismatic guy.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
That felt huge, just
because at the time most people
still kind of considered MMAlike human cockfighting.
Do you like punching people?
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 5 (55:28):
Do you ever feel bad
afterwards?
Nah, you never do.
Nah, you never.
Even if a guy's like spittingout his teeth, you there.
Speaker 6 (55:35):
Nah, not at all, but
when the fight's over with, I'll
say what's up, help him out.
Whatever Be like yo, you gottago to the doctor, man, get that
checked out.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Kimba always had
charisma.
He could make you laugh.
The fact that he was goofy andhappy was very disarming.
It's fun to see somebody who'sso scary and also not scary.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, I miss fat
Kimmel Back when Jimmy Kimmel
was Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 7 (56:03):
Yep, back when he did
blackface, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Good old days.
He did black body For CarlMalone.
I love that deleted scene whenhe had sex with that 13-year-old
relative.
Oh gosh.
Speaker 7 (56:18):
Hey, I didn't do it.
I never heard that one Carl.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
Malone, carl Malone,
yeah.
Speaker 7 (56:22):
Oh my.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
God, oh, right, right
, right, yeah he was quite the
guy.
Quite the guy, what a guy.
That was a take on carl malone.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
that carl there's, we
could do a whole thing.
He also wasn't too kind tomagic johnson?
Speaker 3 (56:40):
no, he was.
He's kind of an ass.
Yeah, from what I've heard, Idon't know, maybe, maybe it's
all lies yeah, just fromeverything I've ever read or
heard about him, yes, so insteadof going into commentary, he
did go into boxing and that'sreally probably what he should
have done from the start.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
He said I want to see
what it's like to break some
ribs, break a jaw with one punch.
This is a career move.
I love fighting, I like toknock people the fuck out.
I love engaging.
Maybe some people think I'mcrazy.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
Find your passion.
You know, if you do what youlove for a living, you don't
work a day in your life.
That's really good.
I've always wanted to breaksomebody's ribs.
Speaker 7 (57:19):
Yeah, I mean, that's
who should be boxing this person
that thinks this way.
I never woke up and thoughtthat hey.
I'd like to knock someone'slights out today.
It's not great when you'reapplying for a job at 7-Eleven
Right, although maybe it is whoknows, these days in North
Hollywood it would help to havesome boxing skills.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
So what do you like
to do, sir?
I like to knock people the fuckout.
So funny.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
You say that I was
getting us our beverages before
the show, our energy drink, yes,and somebody just walked into
the 7-Eleven, stole a bag ofchips and walked out and the guy
was like, what do you want meto do?
Chase him.
Oh man, apparently you can justdo that now I was unaware that
is so rude?
Yes, very rude.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, so he makes his
pro boxing debut August 13th of
2011.
He fights a 39-year-old, jamesWade, at the Buffalo Run Casino
in Miami, not Florida, oklahoma.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
Oh wait.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
What a twist there's
a Miami Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Baby, we're going to
Miami, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
Oh shit, there's $30
tickets to Miami.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
You promised me a
life in Miami, harold.
We're here, oklahoma, miami.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Oklahoma.
He won the fight in 10 seconds.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
All right, he's back
baby, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
And then he keeps
going.
He ends up.
After all is said and done endsup 7-0.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Okay, At 30,.
What 7?
Speaker 7 (58:47):
Yeah, that's not so
bad.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
That's amazing yeah
uh, yeah, that's not so bad,
that's amazing yeah so he endedup you know in uh 2013 retiring
with the record of 7-0.
Six ko's not bad.
Speaker 3 (59:00):
Go out on top come on
, I love that for him but he was
not done.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
In june 2014, it was
reported that he had signed a
contract to fight with BellatorMMA.
Speaker 7 (59:13):
That's his full name.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
No, it's the company
he's not fighting.
Bellator MMA.
Speaker 7 (59:20):
It sounds like a
person.
No, it's like the UFC.
I am Bellator.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Sir, can you pull
your pants up please?
Ah yes, bellator pants falldown.
Yes, sir, can you pull yourpants up please?
Ah yes, bellator pants falldown.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
On January 16, 2015,
nearly five years since his
retirement and more than twoyears after an absence from
combat sports, Bellatorannounced that they had signed
Slice to a multi-fight deal.
And he goes in.
And who is the first person hefights?
He's not getting away with itthis time.
Shamrock, Ken, Shamrock Allright, let's go.
Speaker 7 (59:53):
Time to turn this guy
into a shake.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (59:56):
I love that Make him
green.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Oh, let's see.
He was so pissed about hisfirst fight and what he did to
him Made him look like a schmuckFucking, made him lose in 14
seconds that Kimbo was like hey,I'm gonna beat your ass, all
right I love the dude wipes onhis
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
ass, but he's just
not able to put.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So he's in a choke
right now, and ken shamrock is
like the king of submissionsonce you're in, you're not
getting out.
And uh, let's see what he doeshere he's still with it.
Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
saw that arm drop but
he's still with it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
shamrock full, full
commitment but has crossed his
angles, lost both hooks, stilldeep still tight, but if Ken
doesn't get this, will he haveany arm strength left?
Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
And Kimbo's out.
Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Uh-oh, oh, to his
feet and unloading with the
right hand Make me look like anasshole.
It was all ken shamrock,buh-bye.
All he sees is the boston pd inhis eyes, yeah, and he's shaved
his chest like uh, lesnar, oh,I love it like the sword.
(01:01:03):
Okay, so he ends up knockingout Ken Shamrock, wow.
Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Sweet revenge.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Oh, that has got to
be the tastiest revenge.
Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
And great for dude
wipes because it sponsors right
on his ass the whole time.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
That's where you use
it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Dude, wipe him off
the floor.
Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
That's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Dude, where's my
wipes?
Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
What a comeback, what
a great ending to that fight.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah, On February 19,
2016, at Bellator 149, Slice
went up against this dudeDada5000.
Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Is this a person?
He's a product.
Okay, that is a person.
That's not a company.
I don't know.
Actually I'm with you.
I have no idea, Dada5000 soundslike a special needs robot.
Yeah, we got the Dada 5000.
It mostly throws our spoons onthe wall.
It kind of fucks with our forks.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
They faced off
because they were both products
of the South Miami backyardbrawler scene.
Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
The Florida Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yes, yes, exactly In
the first round.
Both these guys got so tiredimmediately.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Dada 5000 power ring
down.
Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
Losing power.
Plug me in.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Plug me in.
Even though Slice.
He ended up getting a TKObecause Dada 5000 collapsed from
exhaustion.
Dada went bye-bye.
Following the bout, it wasreported that Slice had failed
his pre-fight drug test and labresults found traces of anabolic
(01:02:48):
steroids.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Oh, please, traces
Come on.
Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
Let the guy be who
isn't on steroids.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
He had an elevated
testosterone level, with a ratio
of 6.4 to 1, which is above themaximum allowed limit of 4 to 1
.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
So that took his.
The Texas Athletic Commissionfined him and revoked his
license, and they also changedthe bout to a no contest.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Oh so yeah it's not
the biggest issue in texas.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Let kimbo fight yep,
and it was a shitty fight.
No one liked it, but the fightattracted 2.5 million view, 2.5
million viewing households,breaking the record of 2.4
million set by kimbo andShamrock.
Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Wow, this guy sells.
Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah.
So in his Swan song he wantedto go out in style.
So in April 2016, bellatorannounced on ESPN SportsCenter
that Slice would have a rematchagainst James Thompson, the guy
with the cauliflower earring.
Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
Yes, I remember him.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
In the main event of
Bellator 158, which would take
place on july 16th 2016 atlondon's o2 arena I paid 1500
for the splash row.
Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Let's go.
I want to get some of that earpus on me, yeah they bring balls
to fill with parts of thecauliflower.
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Yeah, you think he
would just wear something over
it this time.
Oh you can't really cover it up.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I don't think you're
allowed to.
Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
Yeah, I don't know if
they allow headgear or like a
fake ear.
Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Basically what he has
.
Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
Do you think that
Mike Tyson thought that Evander
Holyfield's ear was made ofcauliflower that night?
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
And that's why he
tried to take a big old chunk
out of it.
Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
I'm a vegan, hungry.
Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Can't even imagine
biting into the puff pastry that
is cauliflower ear.
I'm starving.
Pop it in your mouth, yes.
Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
Put it in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
All right, my God,
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
I have trouble biting
the hot pockets.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yes, yeah, uh, messy
but in june of 2016 there were
some complications here on theflight home the plane almost
made an emergency landing forhim.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I think his heart
might have stopped.
They land the ambulance andeverybody was actually there and
we started hearing he needs aheart transplant.
You know, I thought we'd letthe weekend go by, but he called
me on Sunday and it was thefirst time he ever said this to
me and I could hear it in hisvoice.
He said you know, mike, he was,he would.
(01:05:27):
He was like.
You know, I'm scared.
I never heard his voice saythat and you know I never heard
him say that he was scared ohyeah, so he had a heart attack
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yes, and so they
found um a number of different
things.
He had heart damage.
So when you take steroids forthat long, um steroids they
obviously make your musclesbigger, but they don't.
They can't tell the differencebetween your heart muscles and
your actual muscles.
So your heart will get biggerand then it will start like
collapsing in on itself.
(01:06:03):
That's how a lot of wrestlershave died.
Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
A lot of athletes
have died because your heart
gets too big and starts notbeing able to do the work that
it used to be able to do I see,and isn't it a lot of strain on
the heart oh yeah, everythinggoing on around it yes so maybe
that's what happened with thegrinch yeah, he had congestive
heart failure yeah, he was juststarting to juice he may have
had a good christmas, but I'mnot sure he was alive by new
(01:06:28):
year's.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
No, right, right yeah
, so he was uh diagnosed with
congestive heart failure.
Uh, like he said they, theywere talking about a heart
transplant, but it was not umvery long that he lived.
After this admission to thehospital, it happened.
The admission was june 3rd 2016and he was dead on june 6th wow
, at the age of 42 they couldn'thave done it sooner, like it
(01:06:51):
wasn't, like we need to do thisright now.
Well, you need a donor, ofcourse yeah, exactly, you need
somebody to do it, but then youalso need to be put on a list,
and right.
Yeah, yeah, I just wasn't sure.
Speaker 7 (01:07:02):
In those situations
where they know they need it
this second, yeah, if there'sanything that can be done but
then they take intoconsideration age and what
you've done to end up in thisposition.
Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
I think they should
have had him be able to fight
somebody and take his heart out.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Just some 80-year-old
lady beating the shit out of
her.
Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
I don't know.
If he wants that heart, heneeds a fresh one.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
It might be better
than the one he had, though, oh
that's true, oh boy, yeah, it'sreally brutal.
So he was only 42 years old,which is a baby.
Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Yeah, he's so much
younger than I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Yeah, I mean, he just
looked like such a big man for
so long because he had so muchtestosterone going through his
veins.
An autopsy also revealed thathe had a mass on his liver, so
it is just.
Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
There was a lot going
on.
Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
Exactly so it is,
just there's a lot going on.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's a tough life, not tomention aside from the steroids.
I can't imagine taking thatmany punches right in your life.
Is that great for you?
Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
can't be that good.
No, can't be definitely not.
But he seemed like he was withit for the most part because he
wasn't taking a lot of punches,like he was the one delivering.
Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
That's what they say
with ufc fighters as opposed to
boxers, because there are somany different ways to win and
lose a fight.
Taking a lot of punches, he wasthe one delivering.
That's what they say with UFCfighters as opposed to boxers,
because there are so manydifferent ways to win and lose a
fight.
They don't have as much CTE.
I'm sure it still exists.
Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yeah, the people who
do slap fights.
Oh, my God, that's another DanaWhite frigging joint.
Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
I don't get that one.
I'll never understand it.
He loves it.
Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
I just never
understand it he loves it, I
just fucking hate it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Kyle was showing me
some best of clips the other day
.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Yeah, it's shocking
it's, it's a pretty one note.
Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Yeah, once you see
one you're just like I see, then
he gets.
Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
That happens again
and yeah, those guys are gonna
get cte before the ufc fightersthey have to already have it
just to even want to do it forlike five thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (01:08:47):
That's the prize yeah
, it's trash just one time.
It seems like it could give youa lot of damage.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
So the CEO of
Bellator said we're all shocked
and saddened by the devastatingand untimely loss of Kimbo Slice
, a beloved member of theBellator family.
Dada5000 said that Kimbo showedthe world that a guy from the
backyard circuit can make it inprofessional sports and do the
impossible.
Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
There, and that's
coming from Dada5000.
Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Goddamn right,
goddamn right.
Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
You don't just throw
compliments around.
Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
No, he doesn't.
That's not a Roomba, that's mywife.
Dada5000 has spoken.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
So I mean, that
really is you know?
Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
What a legacy.
Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Absolutely RIP.
Speaker 7 (01:09:33):
That brings us to
Final.
Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Thoughts.
Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
I'm going to go with.
My final thought is RIP KimboSlice.
And, yeah, he really put, hebrought fighting to the next
level and I appreciate him forthat because I like the UFC
brought fighting to the nextlevel, and I appreciate him for
that because I like the ufc and,um, yeah, talk about just
someone who really probably hadvery little chance for success
and he did it yeah, yeah, this,uh, this life, uh, you don't
(01:10:01):
choose this life, this lifechoose you.
Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Um, this he's
actually done the impossible
Going literally from backyardfights and becoming so famous
that nobody could deny him after.
That is very impressive, and Ithink that is the lasting impact
that he's going to have on meanyway that you can take it from
the backyard and take it to thebig time.
Speaker 7 (01:10:25):
And in multiple
arenasc and boxing boxing street
fighting.
Yeah, and also you said itchooses you.
That's so true with him, likehe was told, like you'd be good
at this.
Yep, you know he was scouted ina way right and just you know
(01:10:49):
and it's knocked it out of thepark.
Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
He would only be
50-some years old.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Jeez yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
He'd still be a baby.
Could have been a commentator,he would have been great too.
Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
He would have been a
great commentator.
Gosh, a character somewhere,Probably a good actor too.
Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, he did make his
acting debut in a holiday
special of Drake and Josh.
Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
And then he was in
like a fighting movie called
like blood and bone or somethingoh, that's what you want there.
Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Yeah, blood and bone
and drake and josh both the bees
.
Speaker 7 (01:11:17):
Yeah, I think
something bad happened to those
kids I don't know nothingcontroversial about nickelodeon
or drake and josh yes not at allwell ripice.
Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Yes, and do you hear
that You've got mail?
Hey, we got some mail in themail bag.
Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (01:11:38):
Kyla Sanders says
episode 158, hotel room 158.
Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yeah, what does it
mean Selena's?
Last words were 158, and itended up being the number of the
episode, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
It's like a sign yes,
absolutely, we got Dan.
He says my favorite new truecrime podcast.
Glad to hear Ben again.
Missed you, bud.
Oh, yes, indeed, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
And I wanted to give
a shout out to Marcy and Tulsa
because she did leave this alittle bit ago and we haven't
read it yet.
She loved the David Lynch EppsSaid I'm enjoying listening to
the show Evolve into what it'sgoing to be with the two of you
and Ben, especially the DavidLynch two-parter.
It was good and I learned moreabout David more than I ever
knew.
Touched my heart because I lostmy wife who was always a big
(01:12:24):
fan, and I didn't really get it.
Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
Love you guys oh wow,
that is yes, that's powerful.
Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
David Lynch lives
forever.
Yes, so does.
Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Kimbo Slice.
Yes, and we love you right back, marcy, so thank you guys so
much for listening Anotherepisode down.
Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Yeah, thank you all
so much for listening.
We'll be back next week anddon't forget check out OK Bud
and the Patreon, patreoncomslash diebud.
You can watch the show andcomment live.
Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
All right, hail
yourselves and until next week,
don't go dying on us.
Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
You have just heard a
true hollywood murder mystery I
have never seen anything likethis before the movies, broadway
, music, television, all of it aplace that manufactures
nightmares okay, everybody,that's a wrap
Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
good night.
Please drive home carefully andcome back again soon.