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All right, hello and welcome to the show.
OK, so today we are going to be talking about paying off our
credit cards faster because faster, especially when we're
talking about getting rid of credit is so much better than
slow, right? So I'm going to teach you some
of the things that I learned along the way that are going to
help you eliminate that debt, but help you stay laser focused,
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be strategic and also be a little bit rebellious with your
budget. So if you listen to this show or
if you've been around for a little while, the Debt Rebel
podcast is about eliminating debt and learning to live a debt
free life. And so I'm super passionate
about teaching families how to do that.
I'm Jules the budget nerd. If we haven't had a chance to
meet yet, Julianne Colbrand's myreal name, but a lot of people
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call me Jules the budget nerd. And so one of the things that I
love, I love to teach is this right here because this is where
the real progress is made when it comes to changing our
financial future, where it comesto changing our family's future
is eliminating debt, paying it off, getting rid of it, not
using credit cards to live. So stick around.
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I hope today's episode is something that is exactly what
you need. All right, hello, Thank you so
much for joining me for today's episode.
I do want to acknowledge the fact that I did not get an
episode out last week. First time in over a year of
doing this podcast. I did not release an episode and
I wanted to 1 come clean about that, but two, also, I wanted to
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share a little bit behind the scenes why I didn't do it
because it wasn't intentional. It was life just happened.
We were getting ready. My daughter and I went on a
girls trip with her best friend and her mom and we're going to
be taking my car and my car decided that now it needed a new
alternator. So it was just kind of a crazy
week getting ready for a trip and having some car issues.
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And I'm going to talk a little bit more about that in a future
episode about our car because that isn't another place that
our finances can get off track. And so I just didn't get to the
episode that I had planned this one right here.
And so I just want to remind youthat you know what, we can set
goals for ourselves and life happens sometimes.
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And I could have beat myself up and go, Oh, my gosh, someone's
going to notice. Or I felt really bad that I
missed one episode. And so life goes on.
That's what I want today's episode.
I want this to be something that's really helpful for you,
just like I want every single episode to be something that is
worth your time, worth your attention.
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Thank you so much for joining me.
And I want to send a special welcome to Morgan.
Thank you so much for your message on Instagram.
And I hope that this episode is a huge blessing too.
Today we're going to be talking about paying off credit cards
faster. How do we do that without all of
like the the gimmicks that shame, You know, I was just
talking about about not recording an episode last week.
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We can feel that same way about our budgets.
And then just completely just throwing our entire lifestyle
just in the trash. And that's not what this is
about. This this podcast, this episode
is about getting real about where we are with our money.
Welcome to the Debt Ripple podcast where we discuss the
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insurance and outs of personal finance for families so you can
eliminate the burden of debt, create financial margins, and
learn a new way to interact withyour money.
I'm your host, Jules the Budget Nerd, and I have been in your
shoes. My husband and I have paid off
over $107,000 in consumer debt until we finally threw in the
towel and decided it wasn't for us.
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Throughout our journey, we learned another way to do life
without debt, and that's my hopefor you.
You can learn more about our story and see full show notes on
my website, julesthebudgetnerd.com.
That's JEWLZ, the budget nerd.com.
Now let's dive into today's episode.
Today we're going to be talking about paying off credit cards
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faster. How do we do that without all of
like the the gimmicks, creating a plan that's going to work for
you and your family to move pastthis?
This is just a stage. It's just a season in life
because so much of our world says, hey, we need credit cards
to survive on a daily basis. If you're in my household,
credit cards kind of a bad word because it just makes me cringe
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now because it has brought so much devastation and stress and
just not pleasant experience to our family.
As I want to help you move past that, get past that so that it
is in your rearview mirror and you no longer have to use credit
cards to fund your day-to-day life.
The first thing that we need to do is just get real and know
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what your numbers are. So if you haven't taken a look
at your bank statement or excuseme, your credit card statement
or maybe your credit report lately, I highly recommend doing
that. So one of the things is just
coming face to face with that number.
It's very important to understand where you are because
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just like, you know, getting going off on this little mini
road trip with my, with my daughter and our friends that we
to get to our destination, we needed to have a little bit of a
plan, right? We would decided, you know what
we, we changed it up a little bit on our return trip, but we
needed to know how to get there,how to get to our Airbnb.
So we had to create a plan. And that was just looking at a
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map. And that's what your numbers are
when it comes to looking up all of your credit card balances,
minimum payments, that kind of stuff is that is just your,
that's just your map. That's what it looks like to
say, Hey, this is this is the the thing I'm going to tackle.
So if you've been avoiding your statements, now's the time.
This is that first step of reclaiming control over your
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finances. And then pick a pay payoff
method. So I teach the debt snowball
because that's what worked for us.
It is, I feel like for myself and the way my brain works, it
was so much easier for me to just knowing that I wasn't going
to be going back to using debt again.
I just wanted to pay it off and be done with it.
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So it created opportunities for our family to get some really
quick wins to see that momentum.And then we were, it was easier
for us to stay motivated. There's some other methods out
there if you can look up, you can look up the avalanche method
and that's if you're worried about interest and all that kind
of stuff. But I teach the debt snowball
because I felt like it is the most helpful if you're going to
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be eliminating debt all togetherand not just paying it, paying
it down so that you can rack it back up again.
So the debt snowball method is just paying off the smallest
balance first while making minimum payments on the rest.
And then once that one's paid off, you just roll that payment
into the next card, the next card until you're all done.
The key there is whatever methodthat you pick, stick with it
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because if you're switching backand forth one, it's going to
just boggle your brain. I can't even say that, right?
It's just going to boggle your brain, but also it's going to
inhibit your progress. So pick a method, stick with it.
Within the alliance membership, I teach the snowball method and
that is, like I said, the most effective method for our family
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to just stay, stay focused and eliminate that debt.
And then we create a no nonsenseor survival mode budget.
So we use 0 based budgeting. My favorite app for that is
Every Dollar because it's just so much easier to just see
things going where they need to.But Every dollar has a job and
every single dollar that comes into our household goes out and
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A and it's labeled a certain way.
So when it comes to creating that no nonsense or that
survival mode budget, you're going to pause or slash any of
those non essential things to help you get towards your debt
free goal faster. So some of the things that we
eliminated were subscriptions. We stopped eating out those
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kinds of things, just like the random like trips to the store.
But we also budgeted and fund money because you don't want to
make it so that life is just so restricted that you feel like
you can't breathe. And so that fun money was that
kind of designated money so thatwe're not sabotaging ourselves.
So if you wanted to use that for, you know, that random trip
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to the store, you could or if you wanted to use that money for
that subscription because that'swhat brings you the most joy, do
it. And the next thing is finding
any extra money that you can without having with it, without
just taking on. I mean, you can take on another
job if that's helpful for you. If you're a busy parent, which
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I'm assuming you are, that mightnot be what's possible.
So some of the things that we did, we sold a lot of things on
Facebook Marketplace and on different online marketplaces.
And so one thing that I hear a lot is I don't have anything
that people will buy or that I don't have anything to sell.
If you have something that you would normally have donated to
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Goodwill or local shelter, that means that someone will buy
that. And so because someone is going
to buy that, if you donate it atGoodwill, someone's going to buy
that. So maybe it's and you price it
accordingly. Those things, there's always
something within our home that someone else is going to find
value in that we no longer find value in.
And that's absolutely fine. Use that money when you sell
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those things to put towards youryour debt so that you can get
there faster and then check on your recurring expenses.
So if there's any of your bills that can be renegotiated, I know
I called our Internet provider and asked for a lower a lower
rate. And it's possible these little
things will add up and help you find even if it's just an extra
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$100 a month, that can make a huge dent in your, in your debt.
As long as we're consistent withthat.
The next thing is now this is a hard 1.
And I absolutely understand. And I hear you saying, but OK,
so stop the swipe. So freeze your card if you have
to do it in water like we did, which I froze it in a like a
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soup can. And so if I wanted to use it, I
had to take it out of the freezer, put it in the kitchen
sink because you can't microwaveit and let it thaw.
So if that's what you need to doso that you're not using your
card to do it, but remove them from Apple Pay, from online
stores, that kind of stuff and switch to cash or a debit card.
Because when our brain registerswhen it are hurts to spend, that
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is a good thing because that makes us stop and second guess
our decision that we're about tomake.
And so credit cards have made itsuper easy and super convenient
to just buy whatever we need whenever we want it, whenever we
need it. And so it doesn't give us the
opportunity to just pause for even just a few seconds to say,
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hold on a SEC, Do we actually need this?
Can I live without this? Is this helping me get closer to
my goal? The next one is pause any new
debt. This is just like trying to bail
water out of a boat that still has a hole in it.
We want to hit pause on any new credit card use so that you
know, talking about talking about stopping the swipe.
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We also don't want to add any new credit cards.
So you get those, you get those offers in the mail.
You can get on the Do Not Call registry and you can eliminate
some of those. But if there's businesses that
you do business or if there's companies that you do business
with such as banks and things like that, they can market it to
you. So if you go to their website
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and look for their opt out area,you'll be able to sign up to opt
out of those in the future. You're not going to eliminate
all of them, but it will help. It will help reduce the
temptation. Another temptation that we want
to overcome when it comes to getting out of debt faster and
not adding any new is those buy now pay laters.
I know that's super easy when you're checking out online to
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just say, oh, I'll take this in 4-4 payments, right?
But then we forget about those four payments and then it just
keeps adding up and things are going to be so much cheaper when
you pay for them right away whenyou purchase them.
And also store cards. This one right here is just when
I was working retail, I do remember having to offer, it was
part of my job. I had to offer credit cards to
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people and you know, they would get, you know, an extra 10% off.
And so when you do the math, even if they're spending $100,
they're getting $10 off. But knowing what happens when
someone has a store credit card,the reason why they offer those
to you is because you're more likely to come back to that
store and purchase there. And so that is just going to
continue that cycle and continuethat additional spending that
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you might not necessarily need. Now if it's a store that you
absolutely love, that's great. That 10% isn't going to make or
break you. But if you don't have a card
there, you can still use your debit card.
There isn't that great and you don't have to worry about years
and years of debt in the future.So and that's another another
big one. And then the next is to get some
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accountability. So maybe that's a trusted
friend, join a challenge or, youknow, potentially working with
me as a coach, as your coach andget some faster progress.
That's one of the things that inour journey, my husband and I,
when we decided, you know what, being debt free was very
important to us and going through that process, this is 1
area that we didn't have. And that's why I'm so passionate
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about what I do is because it helps to have someone else
outside your situation to just check in and cheer you on
because the rest of the world isnot going to be excited when you
cut up your credit card. They're going to be like, you're
weird. And here I am, I am, I might cry
because it's such a amazing experience.
It's very terrifying the first time you do it, but it is so
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freeing to know that you're not going to be going back to that
situation and no one else is going to cheer you on like I am.
So couple of things that are going to help with with this
whole process is just remembering that this is a, this
is a new mindset shift now, likeI said, people are going to
think you're weird. I had friends in my life, I had
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family in my life that thought we were crazy that but we
decided, you know what debt wasn't for us anymore.
And we were going to do this newway of living without debt and
we were going to be paying cash or using our debit cards for
everything, including car rentals, which that's a whole
nother topic. That's a whole nother episode.
But it is very possible to live life without a credit card and
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that's exactly what our family is doing.
But remember, it is a mindset shift and it's going to take
some, it's going to take some dedication on your part, but
also some accountability and help to get to that that
destination. And remember, this is not a bad
debt, is not a math problem because it is about behavior and
a mindset challenge of ourselvesand our way of the previous way
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of doing things. So if you might have had the
thought before that, hey, I'm just bad with money, then that
is a self sabotage. So we can start by shifting that
mindset and saying I'm learning a new way of interacting with my
money. All right, so listen up.
Minimum payments are your creditcard company's best friend and
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your biggest enemy if you're trying to get out of debt
because that's how they make their money and that's how we
lose our money and our control. Paying only the minimum on a
$5000 balance. So maybe you have $5000 on your
credit card and you're only paying the minimum.
That's going to take you 17 years to pay off 17 years.
So 17 years. That's like my child going from
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kindergarten all the way throughcollege, and I still haven't
paid it off. I'll have paid it off if I was
paying the minimum that entire time.
Not only that, it's going to cost you way more than $5000.
So today's episode is about getting really crazy intentional
and getting focused in on eliminating that debt as fast as
possible. So why do minimum payments keep
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us broke? So credit cards keep keep us
spending because it makes us feel like we, we have room.
We are stuck in this slow, expensive loop.
You know, say for instance, you have $3000, a $3000 balance on
your credit card and you're paying $75.00 a month a full
year later, so you've made 12 payments, but you still owe
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$2800. It is like just this slow, slow,
slow just, and it feels like youmight be doing everything right,
but the system is not set up forus to succeed when it comes to
making those minimum payments. That's so that they don't start
finding you and doing all these other crazy things that
creditors can do, but it is how they make their money.
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So that is exactly why minimum payments exist is because that
is how the credit card companiesare making their money.
It just covers the interest and it's barely touching the
principal that initial balance. So three ways that you can pay
off debt faster there. You can do the debt snowball or
debt avalanche. Go ahead and Google that
avalanche if that's something you're interested in.
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But I, I'm super passionate about teaching the debt snowball
because it is the thing that it's the method that my family
used, but also it is the way that made it.
So this would stick. Just put all of our, all of our,
all of our balances from smallest to largest.
And then we attacked that first one as much as we could.
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We put as much money towards that and pay the minimum on the
rest. So even if you're making, you
know, several small payments every single month to that that
first debt, do it because every single every single payment that
you make is giving you an opportunity to make faster
progress, but you're paying lessinterest.
The other thing is cutting out spending and redirecting that
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towards towards your debts. So some really easy ways, I like
to call them low hanging fruit is just selling things that are
no longer serving you in your life.
Now I hear this a lot because people are like, well, I don't
really have anything that someone would buy.
If it's something that you woulddonate and not throw away,
someone will purchase it. So it's a matter of taking some,
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a few good photos. Cameras are on our phones are
really great right now. You can just take a few photos,
put it on Facebook. Even if you only make 5 or $10
on the item and someone gets a really great deal, the world's a
better place because of it. But also your debt, you have 5
or $10 that's going to be put towards your debt, which it
might feel like a really small amount.
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But when you're doing that for multiple things and you're
lowering some of your, maybe you're pausing some of your
subscriptions for a little whileand you're getting in tents for
a short season of time, then you're going to be able to pay
off that debt so much faster. So, you know, I've heard stories
of people they have sold a second car.
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That's a crazy one. If you live in an area like I do
where it's really hard to travelor to get around without an
additional car, then that might not be the right thing for you.
But maybe it is a selling a car that has that's not serving your
family well. And I'm going to talk about that
little bit more in a future episode.
You know, maybe it is getting rid of and a car that's
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expensive and that's causing a financial strain for your
family. Maybe you pick up a side hustle.
And so that could look like a ton of different ways.
I have a whole series about waysthat you can increase your
income and help get to get to that debt free status faster.
And if you want some more ideas on some side hustles or some
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ways to increase your income, check out episodes 54 through
62. Those are some quick rebel
resets that are going to help you create that additional
income that you need to knock out that debt faster.
So it's not going to be forever.This is for a little bit of time
so that you can get some momentum and you can knock out
that debt. And one of the things that was
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really helpful for us is to justkeep track of what is most
important. And I talk about this in the the
five day challenge, creating that value based budget is what
matters most to you and your family because that is going to
help guide you and remind you why you want to be debt free.
And so when this gets challenging is you can circle
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back to that and go, hey, this is This is why we're doing this.
We're doing this because. It is not worth the stress
anymore. It's not worth the all the
things that go into maintaining debt and keeping it going and
just feeding a monster that doesn't.
That's not helping you anymore. Now, one of the things that's
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really important and this is something that I didn't do when
we were going through our debt elimination process was we, my
husband and I, we did this alone.
We didn't have people that were cheering us on and
accountability for us because wehad a lot of shame about it.
One thing that I have overcome but was previously something
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that caused me a lot of shame was we had that $107,000 in
debt. But I have a degree in
economics, like I should know better.
My parents taught me how to spend what I make and not use
credit the way that we were. I had a lot of shame and there
was a lot of things that were going into that.
I just felt super overwhelmed and stressed out.
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And so I want to want you to hear me say that when you look
at all of this information, it can feel overwhelming.
So know that you're not alone. But it's not about being
perfect. It's about creating progress for
you and your family. But with a plan, and that's why
with financial coaching like I do, it is that accountability
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and that clarity and someone outside of your situation to
say, hold on a second, you mightnot be seeing it the way that it
actually is. Because when we are in it and we
feel shame and regret and just all kinds of the emotions and
the things that are happening inthat, that we sometimes can miss
the big picture. And so that's one thing about
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our journey that I wish that I would have done was to reach out
and say, hey, I need some help. Because that extra
accountability would allowed us to become debt free faster and
just be able to put that behind us faster.
That's why I've created the alliance coaching membership.
So if you are tired of just continually paying the minimum
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payments and you just aren't feeling like you're getting
ahead or you're not seeing that balance go down, come join us
inside the alliance membership. We're going to help you create
your own debt payoff plan. You're going to have access to
monthly coaching with myself accountability and you're going
to save years and thousands in in interest because you have
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this community of people that are going to be cheering you on
that are going to understand thesituation that you're in, But
you're also going to be getting and education and coaching
that's going to help you in yoursituation right now.
You can go to my website, jewelsthebudgetnerd.com/membership.
That's JEWLZ, the budget nerd.com/membership and join the
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membership there. We'll get your credit cards out
of your life faster with a plan and support you every step of
the way. So thank you so much for making
this show what it is today. Want to say thank you so much
for listening. Thank you Morgan for your
message on Instagram. If you guys have any questions,
I would love to hear from you. If there's an episode too, I'm
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really really want to hear aboutthis specific topic.
Send me a message on Instagram. I love recording listener
requested episodes. But until then, stay rebellious
and I will talk with you soon. Thank you for listening to the
Debt Rebel Podcast. Now, if you want to take your
next step, check out my website,julesthebudgetnerd.com.
That's JEWLZ, the budget nerd.com.
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I've created a bunch of resources just for you.
So hop on over, check it out andwe can connect more there.
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And remember, every step towardsfinancial independence is a
rebellion against debt. So stay strong, keep pushing
forward, and fight the good fight until next time.
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Debt rebels stay resilient.