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Jim (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to today's episode of Decide on
Joy, a podcast coming to youfrom Harmony Spiritual Center in
Fort Worth, Texas.
My name is Jim Alt,
Pjae (00:11):
and my name is Reverend Dr.
PJ Stanley.
Thank you so much for being heretoday,
Jim (00:16):
and today we're talking about the.
Power of spiritual connection.
Yeah.
And navigating life withuniversal laws.
Yeah.
Navigating life with spirituallaws.
Pjae (00:28):
Yes.
Yes.
Jim (00:30):
Yeah.
And what does that involve?
Yeah,
Pjae (00:33):
so.
You know, we're, we're, again,what we're what we're talking
about is how we have the bestlife possible in any given
moment.
To me, it's moment by moment.
'cause every moment is yourlife.
So how do you have the best lifein any given moment?
I think you need to know aboutthe, the universal.
Rules, laws that are effectiveand effective in our lives all
(00:53):
the time.
It's like if you didn't, and Iused this in another podcast
before, but it's so easy tounderstand.
If you're not aware of the lawof gravity, you're just gonna be
falling off of roofs and fallingoutta trees and everything else.
If you didn't understand that,you can't do that, that gravity
sucks.
It's gonna pull you down.
And so that's just a physicallaw of the universe.
Well, there are also spirituallaws of the universe that we
wanna be aware of.
(01:14):
So we're gonna share a couple of'em today.
And, there's, there's quite afew, but we just wanna share
with you the ones that we thinkare, are really, if you
understand those and you, youhave more control over your
life.
And yes, I know the control isan illusion.
However, there is a certainamount of control.
Like I use the gravity thing,you know, that gravity sucks.
So you're not going to try tostep out of a tree.
(01:35):
You're not gonna do that'causeyou know you can't.
Jim (01:37):
Right.
So
Pjae (01:37):
you use it.
Mm-hmm.
Jim (01:41):
Also in another sense, you might, sometimes it can be a
negative thing to try andcontrol your life too much, you
know, true to, to, to thatsometimes we're advised to let
go and let Spirit take care ofit.
Pjae (02:03):
That that part right there.
So when I say.
When I say just getting,getting, getting in control of
your life, what I'm saying is tounderstanding how life actually
works, what spiritual laws arein place that you can use for
your benefit.
So that's the part of, well,you're not, you can't control
anything, but you can have anunderstanding.
Of how things work and what youwant, and decide what you wanna
(02:24):
do, or what you don't want to doto bring things into your life
or to release things from yourlife.
We do have, we do get to dothat.
And so that's what this isabout.
Just being aware of those kindsof, of of rules that go on.
And so the first thing you wantto do is just be aware of them.
You know, just be aware thatthey, they're in existence.
There's a lot of people thatdon't know that they're
available but they are, andthey're using, they're creating
(02:47):
our lives and then we, sometimeswe wonder, how did I get here?
Why is my life turning out thisway?
So kind of understanding what,there are some things that are
going on and you can decide onsome of these things and say,
I'm not going in this direction.
That's the part of the controlthat we're talking about.
Mm-hmm.
Just knowing.
Mm-hmm.
Jim (03:03):
Yeah.
So how do we cultivate thatawareness?
Yeah.
Pjae (03:07):
And, and so that's, yeah, that's the number one is
cultivating the awareness andreally, it, it's about
introspection.
It's about self-reflection.
It is really about coming toknow.
Who you are, who you really are.
There's a lot of noise in ourheads all the time.
If you try to lay out and take anap, there's all kinds of stuff
(03:27):
telling you about, oh, you gottado this, you gotta do that.
And don't forget this.
And don't forget that there's alot that's just the conscious
stuff that we're aware of thatare also unconscious things that
are going on in our minds thathold us in place, like our
parents telling us.
Well, you know, cursing is a badthing.
Or years ago, you can't womendon't wear pants in church or
(03:48):
any number or, you know, to be agood wife.
You should have children andstay home with your children.
Whatever those rules are thatyour parents may or may not have
told you.
And so because there are parentsor our grandparents we just
assumed that that was the truth.
Well, it probably was the truth.
But it's not, it's not thetruth.
It's a truth for them.
(04:10):
So when we start to reflect onour lives, it's particularly
useful to reflect on your lifewhen it's not going well.
That's, that's when it becomes,yeah, you see, you regular that
face.
Because, because if it's goingalong just fine.
It's not like, it's not bad,it's not good.
It's just benign.
There's no impetus to changeanything.
Mm-hmm.
But when it's not going well,your relationships are not going
(04:32):
well, you find yourself in arelationship with the same kind
of person again and again andagain.
Now there's something you can do'cause those people aren't
seeking you out.
There's something that withinyou that says it's okay for you
to be with these people.
And so what is that?
Or, and that's just one example.
So self-reflection, looking atwhy do you behave the way you
(04:54):
do?
Why are certain things okay withyou when you look around and you
see everybody doesn't live thisway?
One thing in particular that Ihad at the beginning of this
journey, the spiritual journey,was the idea that, and I think a
lot of people have this, thatmoney is the root of all evil.
So that, so you, you push awaymoney in your mind.
(05:14):
You're telling money don't comeby way.
But if you think about what youdo when you have money, you're
funding your life and the lifeof the people you love.
So you're doing good things withmoney.
And so to have a negativethought about money, it's
something you wanna take a lookat.
Why?
'cause the money itself is notnegative.
It's what you do with it.
That's what you do with it.
So that's just one, that's justone idea that people have.
(05:35):
Yeah.
Jim (05:37):
And so I see here in the notes, so that mindfulness is
Yes.
Pjae (05:40):
Yeah.
And so that's just practicingbeing in this moment.
So, so many times we're walkingaround wherever we are at the
store or whatever, and we'reahead of ourselves.
We're thinking about what's nextinstead of being right here.
Right now, which is how we missthings.
How we miss, oh man, I meant topick up this, whatever it is in
the grocery store or, you know,you, you step off a curve'cause
(06:01):
you're looking ahead atsomething else and you're not
paying attention to where youare.
Mm-hmm.
Right now.
So mindfulness is about payingattention to what is right now.
And that's, that's a practice.
Jim (06:11):
Yeah, it is.
It's a practice.
Yeah.
No, no question about that.
Pjae (06:14):
That is a practice,
Jim (06:15):
not an automatic thing at all.
It's not an
Pjae (06:16):
automatic, and just observing your thoughts, like I
was just talking about, what doyou think about certain things
when something is not quitegoing the way you'd like?
This is a perfect time for youto think, what do I think about
that?
Why is this okay for this personor this thing or whatever to be
in my life right now?
What in my mind am I saying tomyself?
(06:38):
That this is okay.
'cause obviously I'm saying it'sokay.
It wouldn't be here if I wasn'tsaying it's okay.
So what am I'm thinking aboutthis?
And so that's a good time toobserve your thoughts about
something when it's not goingright, or like he thought it was
gonna go
Jim (06:52):
right.
Pjae (06:52):
Yeah, it's a good time.
Jim (06:53):
Yeah.
So let, let's talk about these,these spiritual laws that we
brought up earlier.
Pjae (07:00):
Yeah.
So one of the words that wedon't like as human beings is
control.
You have control issues.
You did?
Yeah.
But the law of control is notit's not, it's not that kind of,
it's not that kind of control.
What it says is that you feelgood about yourself to the
degree that you feel in controlof your life and not controlling
your life, but in control.
(07:21):
Meaning that you are beingmindful, that you're looking at
your thoughts, that you'remaking decisions based on the
now, not based on.
Paradigms, which is just therules that you think life should
be like, that someone thataren't actually your rules,
they're rules that you weregiven as a kid or even maybe as
an adult being married.
And you live with those rulesuntil they're no longer working
(07:44):
for you.
And so the law of control justsays that we feel.
Better about ourselves to thedegree that we feel we are in
control of our lives, meaning weare making the decisions we
wanna make and living the lifethat we want to live.
That's what the, that's all thelaw of control says.
You can't control anything.
That's, that's I wanna make thatreally clear.
(08:05):
I'm not saying you can controlanything, but you feel better
about the about your life.
The more that you understand,you are looking at your life and
making definite decisions aboutit.
Not just walking aroundwilly-nilly and just doing
stuff.
Because it's the way it's alwaysbeen done.
It's the way my, and this is, Ihear this a lot.
I do.
My family does it.
We don't even do that.
My, our family doesn't do that.
Mm-hmm.
That's not, that's not what wedo.
(08:27):
You know, we, I hear that allthe time.
Why not?
Why don't we do that?
That's the question I ask.
It really pisses people off.
But I don't care.
I don't care.
Well, let's take a look at that.
Yeah.
So that's the law of control isabout are you feeling good about
yourself?
Jim (08:43):
And the next one here is the, the famous law of
attraction.
Pjae (08:48):
And so this is one, it sounds like a big old deal, but
you've done this your wholelife.
Birds of a feather sticktogether.
That's what law of attractionis.
You are attracted to the people,the places and circumstances
that are in line with yourdominant thinking.
So if your dominant thinkingsays, money's no good.
People that have money areterrible people, you're just
(09:09):
gonna, where's the money gonnago?
It's not gonna come to you, soyou're gonna be poor because
that's how you think.
Birds of a feather sticktogether.
That's what the law ofattraction means.
So you, you, you just want toget in, in, in mind what it is
that you focus on, what it isthat you think about all day
long.
We are really good.
(09:30):
We, meaning human beings, we'rereally good at storytelling.
We make up stories all the time.
Can you imagine, I think Ishared this one with you when I
was in Walmart one time and thiskid he was working and he was,
he was doing something that Ididn't like and I had all kinds
of stories in my, I don't know,this kid from Adam, I, that was
the first time I'd ever evenseen him at the store, but I had
all kinds of stories going onabout who he was, what was going
(09:53):
on, until I just said, you knowwhat?
Stop it.
I caught myself stop it.
And it turns out he was a greatkid.
He was funny, and he was really,he was wonder, wonderful.
But we make up stories all thetime.
We just look at something and wego, Ugh.
She thinks she's all that, orwhat makes him think he could,
whatever?
Who, no, it's not what makesthem think.
What makes you think?
Because whatever's going on inyour head.
(10:14):
It's going on in your head.
It's not necessarily going on inanybody else's head.
Mm-hmm.
So the law of attraction saysthat we draw to us the things,
the places, the circumstancesthat are aligned with our
dominant thinking.
So if we have things coming intoour lives that we don't want.
The, the easiest thing to do andthe thing you have the most
(10:34):
control over is to look at whatyou think about it.
Why is it okay for that to be inyour, in your in your life?
I think it's, I don't, I can'tremember who it was.
I could see her face but I can'tcall her name up.
But anyway, she says, whenpeople tell you who they are or
show you, tell you by showingyou who they are, believe them.
(10:57):
Believe them.
So people show up the way thatthey are.
You show up the way that youare, that's who they are.
You don't have to try to changeit or give them a story.
It's what they are.
This is why we, we end up inrelationships because we're, we
always think we're gonna fixsomeone else.
Yeah, yeah.
I know they're not that goodabout this, but I can fix that.
You know, if they're with me fora while, I'll change that.
(11:17):
No, you're dreaming.
You, you're dreaming.
People are who they are.
Why would you, why would youwanna be with someone?
You have to fix.
And why would you want to bewith someone who wants to fix
you?
So that's what the law ofattraction is.
That just allows you to to lookat your life, to see what's in
it.
'cause in some way it's okaywith you that it's there and
change what you think about it.
(11:37):
Change why it's okay.
And once you do that, you'llstart letting it go.
You know?
No, I don't want that.
And just let it go.
So that's part of, of, of youbeing in control of your life
Jim (11:47):
and you, there, you were on the what you don't want part of
it, but, but also you canvisualize and cultivate what you
do want.
You Absolutely.
Pjae (12:01):
Can you?
Absolutely.
I, I actually have I believethat we.
There, there's another talk thatI'm, we're gonna have on a
podcast talk called visionvision Driven Life versus The
Condition Driven Life.
And that'll be one of our talksthat we do.
And, and the Bible tells us ifyou're not a Bible person or
not, everybody knows thisparticular statement.
I don't know everybody, but mostpeople know this statement.
(12:22):
Without a vision, the peopleperish.
Without a vision, the peopleperish.
Because we are actually live, weactually are drawn into a
vision.
If you have a vision of yourlife, you, you, you're drawn
into that vision by becomingmore energetic and re and
aligning with that vision.
That's, we want, if we wannaknow where we want to go, you
wanna go someplace.
You wanna, you have to have avision for it.
(12:43):
And really that's just about we,we all know how to vision'cause
we've all done it as children,but we forget.
There's just, they're justdreams.
Kids had dreams all the time,but they were gonna be
astronauts and ballerinas andall that kind of thing.
I don't know when we lost that,but that's the vision that we
wanna have dreams of what wewant our life to be and then
have that dream pull us forward.
So yeah, that's exactly what wewanna do.
(13:05):
Mm-hmm.
Jim (13:05):
And then another famous law here coming up, the law of cause
and effect.
Yes.
Pjae (13:13):
So.
An effect is something that'shappening, something that's in
your life right now.
So an effect in my life might bethat I'm ill or that I'm
overweight.
That's an effect.
That's what's happening.
The cause of that.
What is the cause of overeating?
I'm, I'm eating stuff that's nothealthy necessarily for me.
So there is a cause.
And there is effect.
(13:34):
The reason why this is powerfulis because if you look at the
effect in your life, the thingthat is happening in your life,
then you can look back and go,okay, what's causing that?
And change that.
Stop that.
Cause change it and say, I'm nolonger going to do this.
I don't have to have ice creamevery night after dinner if I
wanna lose weight.
Yeah, I like it.
Tastes good.
(13:55):
Not necessarily easy to changethe cause.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying we can look at itand, and make a decision for
whether we're willing to stopthat cause or change that cause
so that we can change the effectthat's happening in our lives.
So the, the law of cause andeffect is really, it's, it's an
ironclad, it's a, it's one ofthe, one of the most ironclad
laws of the spiritual realm.
(14:16):
Cause and effect it whatever'sin your life.
There's a, there's a specificcause you could trace it back
to.
Jim (14:22):
Yeah.
Not always as easy as saying,oh, I need to stop eating ice
cream.
Not at all.
'cause sometimes it's not thateasy to identify the cause,
Pjae (14:32):
figure out to figure out what happened, how, how, why,
why was this okay?
And I wanna come back to money.
It's just, I, I am not gonnatell my age, but I'm not a
spring chicken and it's taken mea long time to figure out,
because I've always, I've neverbeen poor, but I've never had
enough, you know?
Well, lemme say that was theword I used, that I have enough.
(14:52):
So enough is just that enough.
There's never any extra.
And if you don't have extra,then how do you, how do you
bless other people?
I have family people that Ilove, people that I care about,
people that I want to help.
Agencies that I wanna donate to,how can I do all of that if my
thinking is I just make enough,enough meaning just for me to
get by?
(15:12):
So it took a while for me tostart to get that, that is the
reason why.
That's one of the reasons whythe, the money in my, in my, in
my surrounding that was comingto me was a plentiful.
And so to have to change thatthought, to change the effect,
that's just enough to a, aneffect of abundance.
(15:33):
I have to think what's thecause, what's in my thinking,
what's acceptable to me, what'sunacceptable to me?
And so at the, so, so for me itwas the whole money's evil.
I just was raised with that ideathat money was evil.
And that, that, you know, poorpeople are, are fabulous.
And so, and so that's, you know,and so I had to say, mm, I
(15:54):
really want to have an effect inthe world to help people, to
help myself first and help otherpeople.
And then it's, it's necessary tohave some amount of abundance,
have some amount of plenty inall things,
Jim (16:06):
right?
Mm-hmm.
And, and.
So there's another element therethat of, of taking
responsibility for, for whatyou're doing.
Yeah,
Pjae (16:18):
exactly.
'cause if you,'cause you canhave the mentality of things are
happening to you and Yeah.
Certainly when you're young.
And there are people over, you,parents, teachers, whatever.
There are things that you don'thave necessarily control over.
Although there are a lot of, alot of people who at, at a young
age said no to stuff, said, no,I'm not doing that.
(16:41):
That was their personality.
Mm-hmm.
They were willing to deal withthe, with the ramifications of
saying no to an authorityfigure.
But for, for us, when we'relooking at.
Taking responsibilities for ouractions and then learning from
them.
So what that means is if we, ifwe have, and I'll go back to a
marriage that ended, let's justsay, because everybody's in
(17:02):
relationships, whether there'swith parents or with spouses,
whatever they are, if we don'ttake responsibility for our part
in it, we're gonna be stuck init.
We're never going to, so we haveto look at it and go, it's not
their fault.
I'm not going to blame otherpeople for where I am, my boss
is to blame.
My mother is to blame.
(17:23):
You know, my whoever is toblame.
We get to do that.
We get to say, I'm responsiblefor being in this situation.
Yes, they contributed.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not sayingother people don't contribute.
But you, it's your life.
And you can say, I'm finishedwith this.
I had a group of young womenthat I was teaching on, they
(17:43):
were junior high school kids,and I was teaching'em about, you
know, dating and, and how, youknow, how you should be treated.
And I was telling them we were,I was showing them about sitting
at the table and having a nicedinner and stuff like that.
And so, you know, when you walkup to the chair, you know, you
wait for the gentleman to pull,pull your chair out.
And they said.
They just frowned at me andsaid, what do you mean?
(18:05):
And I go, what do you mean?
They, it's just polite that theywould, you know, pull the chair
back for you.
Just, is this showing politenessfor you, caring for you?
Well, if we waited for that,we'd never eat this.
This was the response and itjust cracked me up.
I said, well, you don't have togo out with people like that if,
if that person doesn't thinkthat you are worth them caring
(18:25):
for, and that's just a small waythat you care for people.
Just to say, I was to pull thechair off.
I'm gonna open the car door foryou.
Why are, the question is, whyare you going out with them?
Why is it okay with you to betreated that way?
So that's all.
And if that's okay, that's okay.
I'm not telling you, you don'thave to be, I'm saying if it's
not okay.
Then it's not okay.
And just own that.
That's where you, there yourpart come in, taking
(18:45):
responsibility for actions andfor, and learning from your
past, your actions where you've,you let that be okay.
But now you're saying, ah, I'mnot going to, I'm gonna have a
different class of person in mylife.
That's what you get to do.
Jim (18:59):
Okay?
Yeah.
So we can stop there on thisend.
Okay?
There's more to come so much onthis, this topic.
So we will return to it nexttime, but in the meantime, you
can have a better quality ofperson in your life and we will
see for the next episode.
Thanks for joining us, and we'llsee you then.
Yay.
Hello, and welcome to today's episode of Decide on
Joy, a podcast coming to youfrom Harmony Spiritual Center in
Fort Worth, Texas.
My name is Jim Alt,
Pjae (00:11):
and my name is Reverend Dr.
PJ Stanley.
Thank you so much for being heretoday,
Jim (00:16):
and today we're talking about the.
Power of spiritual connection.
Yeah.
And navigating life withuniversal laws.
Yeah.
Navigating life with spirituallaws.
Pjae (00:28):
Yes.
Yes.
Jim (00:30):
Yeah.
And what does that involve?
Yeah,
Pjae (00:33):
so.
You know, we're, we're, again,what we're what we're talking
about is how we have the bestlife possible in any given
moment.
To me, it's moment by moment.
'cause every moment is yourlife.
So how do you have the best lifein any given moment?
I think you need to know aboutthe, the universal.
Rules, laws that are effectiveand effective in our lives all
(00:53):
the time.
It's like if you didn't, and Iused this in another podcast
before, but it's so easy tounderstand.
If you're not aware of the lawof gravity, you're just gonna be
falling off of roofs and fallingoutta trees and everything else.
If you didn't understand that,you can't do that, that gravity
sucks.
It's gonna pull you down.
And so that's just a physicallaw of the universe.
Well, there are also spirituallaws of the universe that we
wanna be aware of.
(01:14):
So we're gonna share a couple of'em today.
And, there's, there's quite afew, but we just wanna share
with you the ones that we thinkare, are really, if you
understand those and you, youhave more control over your
life.
And yes, I know the control isan illusion.
However, there is a certainamount of control.
Like I use the gravity thing,you know, that gravity sucks.
So you're not going to try tostep out of a tree.
(01:35):
You're not gonna do that'causeyou know you can't.
Jim (01:37):
Right.
So
Pjae (01:37):
you use it.
Mm-hmm.
Jim (01:41):
Also in another sense, you might, sometimes it can be a
negative thing to try andcontrol your life too much, you
know, true to, to, to thatsometimes we're advised to let
go and let Spirit take care ofit.
Pjae (02:03):
That that part right there.
So when I say.
When I say just getting,getting, getting in control of
your life, what I'm saying is tounderstanding how life actually
works, what spiritual laws arein place that you can use for
your benefit.
So that's the part of, well,you're not, you can't control
anything, but you can have anunderstanding.
Of how things work and what youwant, and decide what you wanna
(02:24):
do, or what you don't want to doto bring things into your life
or to release things from yourlife.
We do have, we do get to dothat.
And so that's what this isabout.
Just being aware of those kindsof, of of rules that go on.
And so the first thing you wantto do is just be aware of them.
You know, just be aware thatthey, they're in existence.
There's a lot of people thatdon't know that they're
available but they are, andthey're using, they're creating
(02:47):
our lives and then we, sometimeswe wonder, how did I get here?
Why is my life turning out thisway?
So kind of understanding what,there are some things that are
going on and you can decide onsome of these things and say,
I'm not going in this direction.
That's the part of the controlthat we're talking about.
Mm-hmm.
Just knowing.
Mm-hmm.
Jim (03:03):
Yeah.
So how do we cultivate thatawareness?
Yeah.
Pjae (03:07):
And, and so that's, yeah, that's the number one is
cultivating the awareness andreally, it, it's about
introspection.
It's about self-reflection.
It is really about coming toknow.
Who you are, who you really are.
There's a lot of noise in ourheads all the time.
If you try to lay out and take anap, there's all kinds of stuff
(03:27):
telling you about, oh, you gottado this, you gotta do that.
And don't forget this.
And don't forget that there's alot that's just the conscious
stuff that we're aware of thatare also unconscious things that
are going on in our minds thathold us in place, like our
parents telling us.
Well, you know, cursing is a badthing.
Or years ago, you can't womendon't wear pants in church or
(03:48):
any number or, you know, to be agood wife.
You should have children andstay home with your children.
Whatever those rules are thatyour parents may or may not have
told you.
And so because there are parentsor our grandparents we just
assumed that that was the truth.
Well, it probably was the truth.
But it's not, it's not thetruth.
It's a truth for them.
(04:10):
So when we start to reflect onour lives, it's particularly
useful to reflect on your lifewhen it's not going well.
That's, that's when it becomes,yeah, you see, you regular that
face.
Because, because if it's goingalong just fine.
It's not like, it's not bad,it's not good.
It's just benign.
There's no impetus to changeanything.
Mm-hmm.
But when it's not going well,your relationships are not going
(04:32):
well, you find yourself in arelationship with the same kind
of person again and again andagain.
Now there's something you can do'cause those people aren't
seeking you out.
There's something that withinyou that says it's okay for you
to be with these people.
And so what is that?
Or, and that's just one example.
So self-reflection, looking atwhy do you behave the way you
(04:54):
do?
Why are certain things okay withyou when you look around and you
see everybody doesn't live thisway?
One thing in particular that Ihad at the beginning of this
journey, the spiritual journey,was the idea that, and I think a
lot of people have this, thatmoney is the root of all evil.
So that, so you, you push awaymoney in your mind.
(05:14):
You're telling money don't comeby way.
But if you think about what youdo when you have money, you're
funding your life and the lifeof the people you love.
So you're doing good things withmoney.
And so to have a negativethought about money, it's
something you wanna take a lookat.
Why?
'cause the money itself is notnegative.
It's what you do with it.
That's what you do with it.
So that's just one, that's justone idea that people have.
(05:35):
Yeah.
Jim (05:37):
And so I see here in the notes, so that mindfulness is
Yes.
Pjae (05:40):
Yeah.
And so that's just practicingbeing in this moment.
So, so many times we're walkingaround wherever we are at the
store or whatever, and we'reahead of ourselves.
We're thinking about what's nextinstead of being right here.
Right now, which is how we missthings.
How we miss, oh man, I meant topick up this, whatever it is in
the grocery store or, you know,you, you step off a curve'cause
(06:01):
you're looking ahead atsomething else and you're not
paying attention to where youare.
Mm-hmm.
Right now.
So mindfulness is about payingattention to what is right now.
And that's, that's a practice.
Jim (06:11):
Yeah, it is.
It's a practice.
Yeah.
No, no question about that.
Pjae (06:14):
That is a practice,
Jim (06:15):
not an automatic thing at all.
It's not an
Pjae (06:16):
automatic, and just observing your thoughts, like I
was just talking about, what doyou think about certain things
when something is not quitegoing the way you'd like?
This is a perfect time for youto think, what do I think about
that?
Why is this okay for this personor this thing or whatever to be
in my life right now?
What in my mind am I saying tomyself?
(06:38):
That this is okay.
'cause obviously I'm saying it'sokay.
It wouldn't be here if I wasn'tsaying it's okay.
So what am I'm thinking aboutthis?
And so that's a good time toobserve your thoughts about
something when it's not goingright, or like he thought it was
gonna go
Jim (06:52):
right.
Pjae (06:52):
Yeah, it's a good time.
Jim (06:53):
Yeah.
So let, let's talk about these,these spiritual laws that we
brought up earlier.
Pjae (07:00):
Yeah.
So one of the words that wedon't like as human beings is
control.
You have control issues.
You did?
Yeah.
But the law of control is notit's not, it's not that kind of,
it's not that kind of control.
What it says is that you feelgood about yourself to the
degree that you feel in controlof your life and not controlling
your life, but in control.
(07:21):
Meaning that you are beingmindful, that you're looking at
your thoughts, that you'remaking decisions based on the
now, not based on.
Paradigms, which is just therules that you think life should
be like, that someone thataren't actually your rules,
they're rules that you weregiven as a kid or even maybe as
an adult being married.
And you live with those rulesuntil they're no longer working
(07:44):
for you.
And so the law of control justsays that we feel.
Better about ourselves to thedegree that we feel we are in
control of our lives, meaning weare making the decisions we
wanna make and living the lifethat we want to live.
That's what the, that's all thelaw of control says.
You can't control anything.
That's, that's I wanna make thatreally clear.
(08:05):
I'm not saying you can controlanything, but you feel better
about the about your life.
The more that you understand,you are looking at your life and
making definite decisions aboutit.
Not just walking aroundwilly-nilly and just doing
stuff.
Because it's the way it's alwaysbeen done.
It's the way my, and this is, Ihear this a lot.
I do.
My family does it.
We don't even do that.
My, our family doesn't do that.
Mm-hmm.
That's not, that's not what wedo.
(08:27):
You know, we, I hear that allthe time.
Why not?
Why don't we do that?
That's the question I ask.
It really pisses people off.
But I don't care.
I don't care.
Well, let's take a look at that.
Yeah.
So that's the law of control isabout are you feeling good about
yourself?
Jim (08:43):
And the next one here is the, the famous law of
attraction.
Pjae (08:48):
And so this is one, it sounds like a big old deal, but
you've done this your wholelife.
Birds of a feather sticktogether.
That's what law of attractionis.
You are attracted to the people,the places and circumstances
that are in line with yourdominant thinking.
So if your dominant thinkingsays, money's no good.
People that have money areterrible people, you're just
(09:09):
gonna, where's the money gonnago?
It's not gonna come to you, soyou're gonna be poor because
that's how you think.
Birds of a feather sticktogether.
That's what the law ofattraction means.
So you, you, you just want toget in, in, in mind what it is
that you focus on, what it isthat you think about all day
long.
We are really good.
(09:30):
We, meaning human beings, we'rereally good at storytelling.
We make up stories all the time.
Can you imagine, I think Ishared this one with you when I
was in Walmart one time and thiskid he was working and he was,
he was doing something that Ididn't like and I had all kinds
of stories in my, I don't know,this kid from Adam, I, that was
the first time I'd ever evenseen him at the store, but I had
all kinds of stories going onabout who he was, what was going
(09:53):
on, until I just said, you knowwhat?
Stop it.
I caught myself stop it.
And it turns out he was a greatkid.
He was funny, and he was really,he was wonder, wonderful.
But we make up stories all thetime.
We just look at something and wego, Ugh.
She thinks she's all that, orwhat makes him think he could,
whatever?
Who, no, it's not what makesthem think.
What makes you think?
Because whatever's going on inyour head.
(10:14):
It's going on in your head.
It's not necessarily going on inanybody else's head.
Mm-hmm.
So the law of attraction saysthat we draw to us the things,
the places, the circumstancesthat are aligned with our
dominant thinking.
So if we have things coming intoour lives that we don't want.
The, the easiest thing to do andthe thing you have the most
(10:34):
control over is to look at whatyou think about it.
Why is it okay for that to be inyour, in your in your life?
I think it's, I don't, I can'tremember who it was.
I could see her face but I can'tcall her name up.
But anyway, she says, whenpeople tell you who they are or
show you, tell you by showingyou who they are, believe them.
(10:57):
Believe them.
So people show up the way thatthey are.
You show up the way that youare, that's who they are.
You don't have to try to changeit or give them a story.
It's what they are.
This is why we, we end up inrelationships because we're, we
always think we're gonna fixsomeone else.
Yeah, yeah.
I know they're not that goodabout this, but I can fix that.
You know, if they're with me fora while, I'll change that.
(11:17):
No, you're dreaming.
You, you're dreaming.
People are who they are.
Why would you, why would youwanna be with someone?
You have to fix.
And why would you want to bewith someone who wants to fix
you?
So that's what the law ofattraction is.
That just allows you to to lookat your life, to see what's in
it.
'cause in some way it's okaywith you that it's there and
change what you think about it.
(11:37):
Change why it's okay.
And once you do that, you'llstart letting it go.
You know?
No, I don't want that.
And just let it go.
So that's part of, of, of youbeing in control of your life
Jim (11:47):
and you, there, you were on the what you don't want part of
it, but, but also you canvisualize and cultivate what you
do want.
You Absolutely.
Pjae (12:01):
Can you?
Absolutely.
I, I actually have I believethat we.
There, there's another talk thatI'm, we're gonna have on a
podcast talk called visionvision Driven Life versus The
Condition Driven Life.
And that'll be one of our talksthat we do.
And, and the Bible tells us ifyou're not a Bible person or
not, everybody knows thisparticular statement.
I don't know everybody, but mostpeople know this statement.
(12:22):
Without a vision, the peopleperish.
Without a vision, the peopleperish.
Because we are actually live, weactually are drawn into a
vision.
If you have a vision of yourlife, you, you, you're drawn
into that vision by becomingmore energetic and re and
aligning with that vision.
That's, we want, if we wannaknow where we want to go, you
wanna go someplace.
You wanna, you have to have avision for it.
(12:43):
And really that's just about we,we all know how to vision'cause
we've all done it as children,but we forget.
There's just, they're justdreams.
Kids had dreams all the time,but they were gonna be
astronauts and ballerinas andall that kind of thing.
I don't know when we lost that,but that's the vision that we
wanna have dreams of what wewant our life to be and then
have that dream pull us forward.
So yeah, that's exactly what wewanna do.
(13:05):
Mm-hmm.
Jim (13:05):
And then another famous law here coming up, the law of cause
and effect.
Yes.
Pjae (13:13):
So.
An effect is something that'shappening, something that's in
your life right now.
So an effect in my life might bethat I'm ill or that I'm
overweight.
That's an effect.
That's what's happening.
The cause of that.
What is the cause of overeating?
I'm, I'm eating stuff that's nothealthy necessarily for me.
So there is a cause.
And there is effect.
(13:34):
The reason why this is powerfulis because if you look at the
effect in your life, the thingthat is happening in your life,
then you can look back and go,okay, what's causing that?
And change that.
Stop that.
Cause change it and say, I'm nolonger going to do this.
I don't have to have ice creamevery night after dinner if I
wanna lose weight.
Yeah, I like it.
Tastes good.
(13:55):
Not necessarily easy to changethe cause.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying we can look at itand, and make a decision for
whether we're willing to stopthat cause or change that cause
so that we can change the effectthat's happening in our lives.
So the, the law of cause andeffect is really, it's, it's an
ironclad, it's a, it's one ofthe, one of the most ironclad
laws of the spiritual realm.
(14:16):
Cause and effect it whatever'sin your life.
There's a, there's a specificcause you could trace it back
to.
Jim (14:22):
Yeah.
Not always as easy as saying,oh, I need to stop eating ice
cream.
Not at all.
'cause sometimes it's not thateasy to identify the cause,
Pjae (14:32):
figure out to figure out what happened, how, how, why,
why was this okay?
And I wanna come back to money.
It's just, I, I am not gonnatell my age, but I'm not a
spring chicken and it's taken mea long time to figure out,
because I've always, I've neverbeen poor, but I've never had
enough, you know?
Well, lemme say that was theword I used, that I have enough.
(14:52):
So enough is just that enough.
There's never any extra.
And if you don't have extra,then how do you, how do you
bless other people?
I have family people that Ilove, people that I care about,
people that I want to help.
Agencies that I wanna donate to,how can I do all of that if my
thinking is I just make enough,enough meaning just for me to
get by?
(15:12):
So it took a while for me tostart to get that, that is the
reason why.
That's one of the reasons whythe, the money in my, in my, in
my surrounding that was comingto me was a plentiful.
And so to have to change thatthought, to change the effect,
that's just enough to a, aneffect of abundance.
(15:33):
I have to think what's thecause, what's in my thinking,
what's acceptable to me, what'sunacceptable to me?
And so at the, so, so for me itwas the whole money's evil.
I just was raised with that ideathat money was evil.
And that, that, you know, poorpeople are, are fabulous.
And so, and so that's, you know,and so I had to say, mm, I
(15:54):
really want to have an effect inthe world to help people, to
help myself first and help otherpeople.
And then it's, it's necessary tohave some amount of abundance,
have some amount of plenty inall things,
Jim (16:06):
right?
Mm-hmm.
And, and.
So there's another element therethat of, of taking
responsibility for, for whatyou're doing.
Yeah,
Pjae (16:18):
exactly.
'cause if you,'cause you canhave the mentality of things are
happening to you and Yeah.
Certainly when you're young.
And there are people over, you,parents, teachers, whatever.
There are things that you don'thave necessarily control over.
Although there are a lot of, alot of people who at, at a young
age said no to stuff, said, no,I'm not doing that.
(16:41):
That was their personality.
Mm-hmm.
They were willing to deal withthe, with the ramifications of
saying no to an authorityfigure.
But for, for us, when we'relooking at.
Taking responsibilities for ouractions and then learning from
them.
So what that means is if we, ifwe have, and I'll go back to a
marriage that ended, let's justsay, because everybody's in
(17:02):
relationships, whether there'swith parents or with spouses,
whatever they are, if we don'ttake responsibility for our part
in it, we're gonna be stuck init.
We're never going to, so we haveto look at it and go, it's not
their fault.
I'm not going to blame otherpeople for where I am, my boss
is to blame.
My mother is to blame.
(17:23):
You know, my whoever is toblame.
We get to do that.
We get to say, I'm responsiblefor being in this situation.
Yes, they contributed.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not sayingother people don't contribute.
But you, it's your life.
And you can say, I'm finishedwith this.
I had a group of young womenthat I was teaching on, they
(17:43):
were junior high school kids,and I was teaching'em about, you
know, dating and, and how, youknow, how you should be treated.
And I was telling them we were,I was showing them about sitting
at the table and having a nicedinner and stuff like that.
And so, you know, when you walkup to the chair, you know, you
wait for the gentleman to pull,pull your chair out.
And they said.
They just frowned at me andsaid, what do you mean?
(18:05):
And I go, what do you mean?
They, it's just polite that theywould, you know, pull the chair
back for you.
Just, is this showing politenessfor you, caring for you?
Well, if we waited for that,we'd never eat this.
This was the response and itjust cracked me up.
I said, well, you don't have togo out with people like that if,
if that person doesn't thinkthat you are worth them caring
(18:25):
for, and that's just a small waythat you care for people.
Just to say, I was to pull thechair off.
I'm gonna open the car door foryou.
Why are, the question is, whyare you going out with them?
Why is it okay with you to betreated that way?
So that's all.
And if that's okay, that's okay.
I'm not telling you, you don'thave to be, I'm saying if it's
not okay.
Then it's not okay.
And just own that.
That's where you, there yourpart come in, taking
(18:45):
responsibility for actions andfor, and learning from your
past, your actions where you've,you let that be okay.
But now you're saying, ah, I'mnot going to, I'm gonna have a
different class of person in mylife.
That's what you get to do.
Jim (18:59):
Okay?
Yeah.
So we can stop there on thisend.
Okay?
There's more to come so much onthis, this topic.
So we will return to it nexttime, but in the meantime, you
can have a better quality ofperson in your life and we will
see for the next episode.
Thanks for joining us, and we'llsee you then.
Yay.
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