I Denounced Delta Sigma Theta: From Sisterhood to Selfhood

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, this is Dr Chiaku with a new episode of
Decoding Spiritual Mysteries,and today I want to talk about
Greek organizations, akasororities, fraternities, which
are really secret societies, andI want to talk about why I
denounced Delta Sigma ThetaSorority Incorporated.

(00:21):
Delta Sigma Theta SororityIncorporated.
Delta Sigma Theta SororityIncorporated is a Black Greek
organization, it's a sororityand it's a part of the
Panhellenic Council.
So it falls under the DivineNine, because the Divine Nine
represents all the Black Greekfraternities and sororities and

(00:43):
it's a total of nine.
So, anyhow, I have been meaningto do this video for a while.
I was parting ways with DeltaSigma Theta.
I would say I feel like Istarted parting ways from them
or I started having those ahamoments in like 2017.
And then I still wasn't fullyready to leave and I would

(01:08):
dabble and dabble.
And then I would say I wouldsay at the at the end of 2019, I
think I was like officiallyready to like leave the
organization and um, in 2020, Ifound a video with some people
who were denouncing Delta SigmaTheta and I was like, oh my God,

(01:32):
I have to contact them and theyit's called Out From Beyond
them.
But I contacted them and theyactually helped me with the
process of denouncing DeltaSigma Theta.
It's actually a process.
Process of denouncing DeltaSigma Theta.
It's actually a process, and Iwent through the official
paperwork of denouncing orexcommunicating, whatever you

(01:54):
want to call it.
I got it notarized.
I had an exit interview.
I met with the highestorganizational chair of Delta
Sigma Theta, which was thechaplain.
I went through all the stepsand there was nothing left to do

(02:19):
after that but to send me myofficial paperwork of you are no
longer a member of Delta SigmaTheta.
And they never did, and I'vecontacted them several times and
their excuses oh, you know,we're backed up since the
pandemic and yet the pandemicended in like 2022.
So there's really no excuses,but it does not matter.

(02:43):
I am officially denounced.
My spirit, mind and body.
I am no longer in connectionwith Delta Sigma Theta.
I do not attend chapters.
I have since had my numberchanged.
I don't even use the same emailthat I communicated with them

(03:05):
on.
I still have the same email,but I have other email accounts.
I don't have any friends fromthe organization.
I'm completely denounced fromthem.
They are completely out of mylife.
I don't have any influencesaround me.
I wanted to do this video yearsago, but I was advised by my

(03:30):
reputation manager.
It was a person I hired to helpwith like branding and things
like that, and she stated thatit wasn't a good idea for me to
engage in a denounced videowhich seems to be pretty
infamous, because it just didn'thave anything to do with my
brand and it could also damagemy brand more so than help it,

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because you know, I'm a doctorof psychology, I'm a
psychologist.
So if someone Googles my nameand then they see a I denounced
Delta Sigma Theta video, it justlooks really tacky and it is
very personal and it couldultimately confuse my audience.
It could confuse my clients.
It could also invite my clientsinto personal spaces of my life

(04:19):
that they don't need to beinvolved in.
So I have social media accountsthat allow me to just be freely
myself, but my reputationmanager didn't think that it was
a good idea to put a video outthat had nothing to do with who
Chiaku is, who I am as a personand also my brand.

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So I never did it and I didn'tfeel like I needed to do it in
order to be denounced.
And when people sort of sendthis message that you have to do
you have to renounce?
You have to do a public video.
You pledged in public, so youhave to leave.
I mean, I don't think thatthat's necessary.
I think what's more importantis that you denounce spirit,

(05:06):
mind and body.
You repent, you, um, you go tothe Lord, you ask for
forgiveness and then you move onwith your life and and that's
it.
And so, um, I did find comfortin connecting with people who
are also denounced from divineeye organizations, um, but then
it ultimately it started to feellike another sorority outside

(05:27):
of a sorority, like we're the Xsorority people, we're the X
deltas, we're the X.
And I'm like, wait a minute,this is like creating a sorority
outside of a sorority.
And then I found myself tellingpeople that I was denounced all
the time.
Like if I saw someone withGreek letters on, I would be
like, hey, I used to be a partof the Divine Nine and I'm no
longer.
And then God just kind ofredirected me to stop doing that

(05:55):
because that's still like beingconnected.
So a part of me didn't do thevideo because I agreed with the
person I was working with, whowas helping me with branding,
that it didn't have anything todo with who I was as a person or
who I am in God, first andforemost who I am as a person or
my brand and then, on top ofthat, I didn't feel like it was

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necessary for me to feeldenounced.
And then I also didn't want tocreate a sorority outside of a
sorority, because ultimatelypeople are going to reach out to
you.
They are going to be like oh myGod, I'm thinking of denouncing
, oh my God, I want to denounce.
And then you end up creatingthese bonds with people and it's
like all you guys talk about iswhy you denounced.

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I've talked to several peoplewho denounce and that's all we
talk about is the organizationwe denounce from.
Denounce, and that's all wetalk about is the organization
we denounce from.
And then I've had I had a guycontact me who was in the
process of denouncing Kappa,alpha, psi, and he was asking me
questions and it didn't seemlike he was fully ready.
And then I was like, see, thisis the reason why I just kind of

(06:59):
need to separate myself andjust disconnect in general,
because then it'll be likeforming another group outside of
a group that we left, and it'llbe like I survived Divine Nine
and then we're all in thenetwork together.
So I fully just decided toleave and not do a video.
But the reason why I decided todo it today is because it's been

(07:22):
weighing on my heart.
I feel like I have enough of abrand and enough of a good
reputation that I can stomachdoing a denounced video like
this, and it not necessarilyaffect who I am as a person nor
my brand I have enough pages onGoogle.

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And then also, I just feel likeit's time to talk about it
because there are a lot ofspiritual components to being a
part of a Greek organizationalso known as a secret society.
There's a lot of spiritual orcult.
There's a lot of spiritualcomponents to it.
And so another concern I hadwas I wanted to go through my

(08:13):
forgiveness stage.
I wanted to also get all theanger out.
And then I wanted to be like,professional and I wanted to be
classy.
And then I spoke to one of myfriends Shout out to you, dr
Perry.
I talked to her and she advisedme that I don't have to worry

(08:34):
about being classy andprofessional and to just get my
truth out.
And so thanks for encouragingme, and this is what I'm going
to do.
I'm going to get it out today.
It's probably not going to.
It's not going to beprofessional.
This is a platform where I wetalk about decoding spiritual
mysteries and I will makepsychological references here
and there, but ultimately thisis a very safe space to sort of

(08:58):
have a real talk down to earthventing session or to discuss
things that are going on in theworld so that we can stand in
our spiritual identity right.
So if I don't speak my truthand if I'm just concerned about
how I display it, then I won'tbe able to fully get it out

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right.
So let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
Okay, for me, joining Delta,sigma, Theta, that was a dream
of mine since probably age 17.
And it happened when my sisterwould always send for me to come
to college and visit her.
She was in college, I was inhigh school and I would visit

(09:39):
her in college and she wouldtake me to all the sorority
parties, the college parties,and I was exposed to them.
And one thing I remember aboutthem is when they entered into
the room, everybody backed up,everybody cleared the room and I
was like wow, who are they?
And they were amazing.
I mean I was like wow, they hadon red, crimson and cream, but

(10:00):
it's really red and white andthey just were powerful and they
just it was like they werebreaking the ground when they
walked, when they strolled, whenthey stepped.
It was like people were almostlike trembling and I was like,
wow, that's power.
And I did.
I had lost my sister, my sister.
I had lost my sister two yearsprior, at age 15.
My sister's twin passed awayand I was shattered by that.

(10:25):
So I lost a sister and I thinka part of me always wanted to
not replace but to just havethat void filled, because I was
always used to having, you know,my two sisters and then my
cousin, who was raised with usas, as a sister.
So I was always used to havingthose three girls and so I felt
like it was a missing piece andso I was drawn to the sisterhood
piece of it because I thoughtit was a sisterhood, and so my

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sister advised me not to do it.
She also said mommy wasadulting.
My dad's sister was adulta andor is adulta.
Rather, my dad's brother is a Qand his, his, his, my, my dad's
sister sister's two sons, whichare my dad's nephews, they all

(11:14):
pledge Q.
Sci-fi, same chapter my dad'sbrother crossed, crossed in.
I have other aunts that areadultas, I have cousins, so
that's pretty much whateverybody did in my family.
So it was like crazy that I wasattracted to them.
So I thought it was like a signlike, oh, my God, it's meant to
be.
Oh, everyone in the family whois a part of a Greek
organization.

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They happen to be a part of theDelta Sigma Theta Q, Psi Phi
branch.
You know of the Delta SigmaTheta Q, psi Phi branch, you
know?
And, like I said, these are thedivine.
These are two of the divinenine organizations.
Okay, from the Panhellenic.
Okay, I don't even know if I'msaying it right, but, um,

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they're a part of the the divinenine, which is the nine black
Greek organizations.
So, anyhow, I always had it inmy, in my, my, my spirit.
I was like I'm going to do it,I don't care what anybody says.
Um, because my cousins werelike don't do it.
My sister was like don't do it.
But I was like I am going to doit.
So, um, when I went off to myhistorical black college, I was

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looking for them.
I was like where are thesecrimson and creams, honey, where
are they?
And they weren't on campus atthe time and I was like, thank
God.
I mean, they were suspended forbadly pledging someone I think
someone almost died, but theywere not on campus.

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So I was like, oh man, so Ihave to be a part of this
organization and they have tocome back.
So, anyhow, I did not get to doit in undergrad.
So what I did was I did it inthe graduate chapter and I was
in my 20s when I, when I pledgedand finally my dreams came true

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.
So I thought, right, sooriginally I had denounced.
Not, it didn't have anything todo with spiritual reasons to
stay in it.
If I would have left for, if Iwould have been wooed to like

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leave for spiritual reasons.
Because one of the things thatGreek people say is like oh,
we're Christian based, and thatis the biggest lie on God's
green earth.
There is nothing Christianbased about these organizations.
The organizations were foundedby Christians.
That is not the same thing.
I can create a program andbecause I am Christian, I can

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say, oh, yeah, it's Christianbased, but it's really not.
It's just that I happen to be.
That's not the same thing.
So that's a form ofmanipulation.
But a lot of people who denounce, they always kind of give the
spiritual reasons for it and itseems very scripted and robotic
and um and and and.

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To me that is not realistic,because why is everyone saying
the same thing when theydenounce and it, it?
It's so scripted and also itkind of leaves the door open to
people who aren't christians.
Like okay, so it's okay to jointhese organizations if you
happen to be muslim or atheistor agnostic, or just one foot in

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the door and one foot out thedoor or a lukewarm Christian.
It's like these organizationsare so dangerous, irregardless
if you're a Christian or not.
It's not even funny.
So I actually like the factthat I was led out of the
organization for psychologicalreasons I would say personal

(15:04):
reasons before it becamespiritual, because that gives me
an outlet to talk about thepsychological and the spiritual.
And I'm just going to say frommy heart once I joined or was in
how do I want to say was joinedor was in?

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How do I want to say initiated?
I remember, like it wasyesterday, we all had to wear
white.
I mean, we walked into thisroom, everyone was dressed in
like black and they had hoodieson and it was really dark and it

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was some candles that were lit.
It was scary.
It looked like a cult, itlooked satanic and I remember my
spirit saying run, get the hellout of there, run.
And I didn't do it because Iwas like, oh, I'm always running
, I've wanted this since I was17.
I need to stay.
But I wanted to run out ofthere because I was like this is
satanic, this is cultish, thisis weird.

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I couldn't even see like thefaces of people.
It was like dark.
I was like what the a way tolike, rationalize myself out of

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it?
Like, oh, you know, this isjust the process.
Oh, you know, I don't have tobelieve in it, I can get through
this.
It's just what I have to do inorder to get in, just what I
have to do in order to get in.
And that was the biggestmistake I've made.
I should have left when Iexperienced that initiation

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ceremony.
It was scary and it's nodifferent from people who join
cults and people who areSatanists.
Like they do the same thing.
They all form in a circle, theyall have the dark hoodies on
the black robes.
It's very dark in the room,it's candles lit, there's an
altar.
I mean it's the same and wecan't.

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We have to stop this.
Oh, it may look like a duck andquack like a duck, but it's not
a duck.
No, it may look like a duck andquack like a duck, but it's not
a duck.
No, it's a duck.
Last time I checked it's a duckand if it's not a duck, it's in
a bird family period.
And so once we started theprocess, it was just hell.
It was hell on wheels.

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It was so negative, it was sodisrespectful.
It was not a good experience.
There was a lot of rituals thatwe had to do.
I didn't do them.
I mean, I would pretend like Iwas doing them and I wasn't.
I would like move my lips eventhough I wasn't saying anything.
And there were like chants thatwe had to do.
We had to do things.
We had to dedicate things tothe ancestors and I'm like who

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are these ancestors and what aretheir names?
And anyhow, it was just so, notme.
Who are these ancestors andwhat are their names?
And anyhow, it was just so, notme, but I would pretend like I
was doing it even though Iwasn't.
But overall, these organizationsand any cult or any secret
society that exists stands onthe principles of needing and
belonging.
It's all about your belongingneeds, and so a lot of these

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organizations get people who areorphans, people who come from
broken homes, people that mayhave been abandoned, neglected,
rejected by their fathers ormothers, people who have been
adopted, or even me.
I lost a sibling and theyusually.

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I also lost a brother, butthat's another thing.
But, yeah, I think those typesof people who have something
missing in their life, be itfamily, siblings, are attracted
to these organizations, cults,secret societies of such because

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they they feel like they'regonna finally be a part of
something and they're gonna havelike this family and they're
gonna have this backing thatthey never have with the family
system.
But you got to think about itlike this these are people you
are literally paying moneybecause that that initiation fee
is no joke.
Okay, it is somebody's mortgagesomewhere in the United States,

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but you're paying money, you'recommitting to wearing a uniform
or clothes, you're buying gifts, you're running errands, you're
doing all these things just tosay that you're a part of a
group or a family system orwhatever have you.
It's not like being born intoan actual family.

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It's completely different.
You can walk away from yourfamily.
You don't have to pay to be inyour family.
You don't have to sacrificethings to be in your family, I
mean a lot of times being a partof our family.
Systems are, you know,sacrificial.
It is, but it's there's adifference between you making

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the decision to sacrifice andyou just going into a situation
sacrificing.
That's two different things.
So, anyhow, um, a lot of theseorganizations they also um are
able to target people who don'thave identity, people who don't
have individuality, and peoplewho are, um, who don't know who

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they are.
Now, me, I always knew I didn't.
I had to know who I was at avery early age, um, because of
my, um, my background.
So I already knew who I was.
I already had identity.
I already had like a brand ofmy own and I said that to them
during my interview and I waslike, hey, if they don't select
me because I said what I said,oh well.

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But I literally said thatduring my interview to them and
I did not think they were goingto select me.
They were like we want her now.
So that's another thing.
It's like I don't know.
Delta, sigma, theta is thelargest and top female
organization.
That's another reason why I wasattracted to them.
Um, they are the top Greek, notnot divine, not organization.

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They have the most members,they have the most money and
they are the most powerful.
They are the cream of the crop.
I have to, you know, I have tojust be honest.
They, they target women who arethe cream of the crop.
They target women who are atype I'm not a type, I'm more of
an ambitious type but theytarget women who are ambitious,
women who are a type, women whoare movers and shakers, women

(21:42):
who are doctors, women who arelawyers, women who have big
dreams for themselves.
They target women who arereally a vibe and so they're
attracted to the best of thebest, the cream of the cream,
the crop of the crop, right.
And so they do have a lot ofsuccessful, extraordinarily

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successful women in theorganization and they are the
most powerful, they are the toporganization.
A little bit of history isoriginally the first
organization is Alpha Kappa,alpha,08, sorry, 1908.
And they were just originally agroup of women and they were

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pretty much a socialorganization.
And the newer members who hadjoined in about 1912, they felt
like the organization didn'treally stand for anything about
1912, they felt like theorganization didn't really stand
for anything and that theorganization wasn't really
focused on productivity and itwasn't an organization that was

(22:57):
doing anything in the community.
And so they voted to change thename, the colors, the mascot,
everything, the meaning of theorganization.

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And they voted to change it toDelta Sigma Theta.
Change the colors to Crimsonand Cream it to Delta Sigma
Theta.
Changed the colors to Crimsonand Cream.
And 22 women voted yes, let'sdo this.
And it was the past presidentand some other members who were
like, no, we're not going to goforward with it.
So, if you think about it, 22women stood up and said, yeah,

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we agree, let's go forward withthis.
And so some other women whowere already a part of the
organization, including the pastAlpha Kappa, alpha president,
was like nope, we're not goingto do it.
You got and they demanded thatthey stop.
And the women said, no, we'regoing to do this.
And January 13th 1913, theydecided to form Delta Sigma
Theta, sorority and um, and thenthey became incorporated and I

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think it was um I feel like mymy months might be a be a little
off, but I believe it was likeFebruary of 1913 and so, um, the
groups became arch enemies in asense, because at one time, the
, when the founders of DeltaSigma Theta were a part of the

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Alpha Kappa Alpha organizationbut they felt like this is going
to be a real organization,we're going to be a real
sorority, we're going to be areal sisterhood, we're not going
to be a social organizationthat's just running the streets,
we're going to really dosomething and stand for
something.
So I believe in 1913, I believeit was March of 1913, they

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participated in a woman'ssuffrage march in Washington DC.
So that was their firstinitiative of like we're going
to be about something as women.
So that was attractive to me aswell, that, although I feel
like my mannerisms, the way Icarry myself, how I feel about
myself, the way I conduct myself, is probably similar to the
ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha,however, delta Sigma Theta

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really standing on, like youknow, principles like success,
achievement, community service,intelligence, uh degrees and
being educated, that to me, wasvery, very, very attractive and
so I definitely wanted to moveforward with that.

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You know, um, however, they, Ididn't.
I didn't feel like I really fitin with deltas.
I didn't feel like I really hadthe mannerisms uh, of, of, of
deltas, uh, aside from thoseprinciples, I didn't feel like I
really had the mannerisms ofdeltas.
Aside from those principles, Ididn't feel like I fit in with
those women and so, like I said,the beauty, the success, the

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power.
My favorite color was red.
It was in sync with me and Ialways remember how the Bible
talks about how Satan can maskhimself as an angel of light,
and so I always think about howthey came across as these

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powerful, successful people.
But once I joined theorganization, I was like, oh my
God, these women are so.
They were so aggressive, theywere so intimidating, they were
so androgynous.
It was like, oh my God, like Idon't like this.
Why do I have to be masculinein order to be ambitious or

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assertive or to get my pointacross?
Why do I have to be a mean girl?
That's not who I am.
So it was just to me.
It wasn't what I thought it was.
Once I got in, I know I'm allover the place, but just vibe
with me, okay, because it's alot to say.

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I might even have to do a parttwo, but I'm trying to get it
all out in part one because Idon't want to focus too much on
this anymore.
But I do want to say that Ifeel like the devil was holding
me back from producing thisdenouncing video for years, and
especially because I have moreof an audience now than I had

(27:23):
years ago.
I have more of a following now.
A lot of people are listeningto my podcast.
If I post anything on TikTok,it blows up, I mean you know.
So I think that it's more of athreat now, but I have literally
saw in the spiritual realm likesomething holding me back, like

(27:44):
, and so I've had to pray aboutit and and I guess today was the
day and also my friend sendingme that message, um, some
denouncing a text message.
It was like, oh, god wasconfirmation.
So, um, I just want to say wowtoday.
I guess today is the day.
I just want to say wow today.

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I guess today is a day.
So, with these Greekorganizations, they do worship a
Greek God.
Now, they can say they don't,but they do.
Every organization has a GreekGod, whereas Delta Sigma Theta
is Minerva and it's the goddessof wisdom, and all the
organizations have paraphernalia, so they all wear certain

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colors.
So AKA is pink and green, deltaSigma Theta is crimson and
cream.
Omega, psi Phi is gold andpurple.
Let's see, let's see.
Let's see the Noops Kappa,alpha, psi, is also crimson and

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cream.
And Zeta, phi Beta, is royalblue and white.
And Phi Beta, sigma, is alsoroyal blue and white.
Then we have the SG Rose, whoare, I believe, they're gold and
royal blue blue.
And then we have the Alpha, phiAlphas, who are black and gold.
The brothers are black and gold.
And then we have Iotas, andthey are brown and gold.

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So their colors are brown andgold.
And I believe I didn't missanybody, did I?
Nope, I didn't miss anyone.
I went in order.
Yep, got everyone.
So, yeah, so every Greekorganization has their
paraphernalia that they wearwith their Greek letters, and
paraphernalia can be t-shirts,pants, jeans, shoes, bracelets,

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hats, necklaces, jackets,dresses.
I mean, they have, I think,earrings.
They have everything that youcan think of now with the
symbols on them.
And for me, I wasn't really intowearing paraphernalia.
I thought that I was going tobe the outest, because that's

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one of the words that we usebetween the Q-Sci-Fi and the
Delta, sigma, theta, z that's aterm we use.
But I thought I was going to bethe outest, delta.
I thought I was going to belike crimson cream, crimson
cream.
But I wasn't.
I really wasn't, and I thinkone of the things I disliked was
all the attention that Ireceived.

(30:24):
I did not like the attention Ireceived because I thought it
was phony, like wait a minute,because I have these
organizational letters on.
So I mean, I personally wasn'treally attracted to all the
paraphernalia stuff, I mean, andI also felt like it wasn't
authentic to who I was.

(30:47):
Like for me it was like, okay,I'm wearing this organization's
letters and I don't really seemyself in this.
You know, like it's likewearing someone's name.
My dad always made fun of usfor wearing name brands.
Like he would say, okay, ifyou're going to wear name brands
, why not wear it on the tag,you know, or where people don't

(31:09):
see it?
But like, why would you wearsomeone else's name on your, on
your chest?
It's like like that's crazy.
And like, when I think about it, like if you were a stylist or
like, let's just say, for aproject, you design shirts with
your name on it and people werewalking around with your name on
their shirt.
Like that's kind of funny,right, and so that's how it felt

(31:30):
being a part of theorganization.
Like I always felt like I waswearing someone else's name on
my shirt and on my jacket, andalso I felt like people.
I got a lot of attention andalso, being a part of these
organizations comes with a tonof stereotypes, by the way, but
for me I was just low key.
I don't really like to announcemyself, I don't really like
people knowing certain thingsabout me unless I tell them.

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So, wearing the jackets and theshirts, it's like you get
stopped everywhere.
People assume things.
For example, I was at a gym oneday and I had, like you know,
greek, greek, delta, sigma,theta shirt on and um, this was
years ago, by the way and um,this guy like came up to me.
He was like hey, hi, I see youat the gym all the time.

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And he was like I noticed your,your, your t-shirt and I was
like what, what t-shirtappa?
And I was like, oh okay, andlike I didn't even know I had
that shirt on, like I just did,I just needed to wash clothes.
And um, I saw I was wearing it,but I didn't know that I was
wearing, I didn't even notice.
But he was just like, oh yeah,you know, he just started

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talking to me and I just kind ofwasn't interested in having a
conversation.
I was more so interested inworking out, like I don't need
to be stopped while I'm workingout so you can be like, hey,
you're a part, is this, you know?
I just didn't like that.
I didn't.
I didn't feel like like I wasbeing acknowledged for who I was
.
It was like when you're wearingthose shirts, those teeth,
those jackets, though you arerepresenting them, you're not

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representing yourself.
People don't see you as aperson anymore.
They don't see the personbehind the shirt, behind the
paraphernalia.
They just see that, thoseletters and those colors and
they don't, they don't see you.
I didn't like the look inpeople's eyes when they would
talk to me while wearingparaphernalia.
It was as if I was an object ortoy or a robot and it was like,

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you know, I became invisibleand I didn't like that feeling
and I was like what is this?
You know?
So, um, um, yeah, just was, itwasn't me, it wasn't for me.
And, to be honest, they kind offlood you with that stuff
because, um, when you cross, youget a lot of gifts from people.

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I mean you get gifts fromeverywhere, from every.
Which a way, which a way thatyou can think of?
I mean I even got like aTiffany ring when I crossed, I
mean, and it had the letters ofthe organization and I was told
to put it on your ring fingeruntil you get married or
whatever.
Which is so demonic butnonetheless.
Which is so demonic butnonetheless, when you cross or

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when you become a part of theseorganizations, you are exposed
to paper with the organization'sname on it pens, pencils,
sharpeners, mug, coffee mugs,water jugs they literally have
learned how to make every singlething you can think of with the
Greek letters on it.
So it can flood the hell out ofyou.

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And you got to think if youdon't have any identity and if
you don't know who you are, youdon't know who you are in Christ
, and if you don't have a brand,then you don't mind.
And that's probably why most ofthe membership comes from the
undergrads, because theundergrads are usually between
the ages of 18 and 23 and yourbrain is still developing by
that age.
So identity needing andbelonging is more prevalent,

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because you really are trying tofind yourself.
So being a part of a group issafe, you know.
So they don't mind.
Of course they don't care tohave everything that they own
with the organization's name on,but if you join at the grad
chapter letter level, or whenyou become an adult after well,

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you're already an adult inundergrad, but when you become a
more older adult, your brain isnow fully developed.
It can be like flooding in asense If you, if you have
identity in Christ and if youknow who you are.
But if you don't know who youare and your identity becomes
the organization, then you neverfeel flooded by it.
Because I know people in theirthirties and forties and you're

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still walking around with you,know Kappa Alpha, psi hats on
and you know T-shirts with youknow they're still wearing
paraphernalia like they're anundergrad and it's because, like
, they don't have any identityoutside of it.
And so, um, another thing too Inoticed about being a part of
the organization was, like thiscolor possession, um, or or even

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even mannerisms andcharacteristics are become
possessions Like.
So, once you become, if youyou're, if you become a delta
sigma theta, right, we don't saydelta, sigma theta, by the way,
well, well, did I just say we?
Let me correct myself.
They do not say delta, sigmatheta, um, the correct what they

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say is dst, delta, um.
They use all kinds of terms,devastating, diva, you know.
So when you become a part of theorganization, right, let's you.
You just can no longer wearpink anymore.
It's like, oh, that's aka.
Pink is aka you can't weargreen.
Green is aka you can't wearroyal blue.

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That's zeta phi, beta or sigmagamma, rola.
You know, if you're a guy, youdon't, you better not.
You know, if you're a guy, youdon't, you better not be caught
wearing purple.
If you're a part of anotherorganization, it's like you
better not be wearing red.
If you're a Q, you better notbe wearing gold or whatever.
If you're an alpha, I mean ifyou're a um, a new, but you
better not be wearing.
It's just, it just becomes likethis possession of colors and

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also characteristics.
So if a Q dog you know, whichis Omega sci-fi if they come
across more preppy, then it'ssort of like oh, he acts more
like a nuke than a Q.
If a person is a Delta and theycome across more prissy or
ladylike, oh, it's like, oh,you're acting like AKA.

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It's like it's so overwhelming.
You know, especially if you'rea free spirit like me and you
just want to be yourself, it canbe overwhelming.
And the reason why they takeyou through a pledge process in
the first place is.
So you disconnect from who youare and become what the
organization is.
So the whole goal is to breakyou down and then you become the

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identity of the organization.
So for a person who's allowsthat breakdown, then it's not a
big deal for them to um, becomethe identity of the organization
.
Um, so yeah, they're.
They criticize every singlething.
Like you can no longer likepink, you can no longer like
green.
Like you can no longer likepink, you can no longer like

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green, you can no longer likeroyal blue.
So it's like I found a.
I found it to be kind of sadthat, like here, I am a lady,
you know, and I cannot.
I can't wear pink.
Like what?
Like I can't wear green, Ican't wear a royal blue.
Now, that's crazy and it'sliterally that superficial.

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That is that superficial thatyou could be mistaken for
another organization if you wearthose colors.
So it's like this hauntingthing.
They're very territorial.
The spirit is a spirit ofterritorial.
Like you, you belong to us, youare our possession.
It's very territorial.
I found the Greek organizationsto feel much like a slave

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condition.
It was like being on aplantation.
It's like, okay, this person isfrom that plantation, this
person's from that plantation.
It was very slave like.
I mean, people get brands andpeople also.
When you pledge you, you get anumber.
So you're number 22 or number30, this and that my number was
36.
And so you get a pledge name.
You know.

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So your pledge name could belittle sassy, I mean, it could
be whatever they give you.
And so when you greet peopleupon crossing, you know when you
it doesn't even matter ifthey're from a different
organization.
You say the chapter that youcome from, you say the year that
you cross, you say your pledgename and your number.

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That is some slave mentalitystuff.
That's how it was back in theday when slaves were running
errands for their masters orwhen they were freed, they had
to say they were from thisplantation, they had to say that
they were the property of slavemaster, blah, blah, blah.

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They had to give what theirnumber was, because they knew
slaves by numbers and not bynames.
And they have to show.
They have to show their freedompapers if they were free.
And also they took on the lastname of the slave master.
That's the why you'll see a lotof african americans with, uh,
caucasian last names, becausethey took on the the name of the

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slave master.
They should have created theirown, but they took on the name
of the slave master.
So, off the record, if you everwant to do some research on you
, know your last name, um, tofind your roots, you should,
because it's not your originallast name as an African.
But anyway, back to the point.
Um, when it comes to theseorganizations, it's almost like

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they want to become your God.
So the organization is a spirit, the founders, the Greek God
that you serve.
It is a spirit.
So the fact that they say thatthey're Christian-based
organizations is a complete lie.
It is a fallacy, because it isnot real.
It's not real.
There is nothing Christian,christian based about the

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organization.
For one, if you even bring upGod I'm talking about Yahweh,
I'm talking about Elohim, I'mtalking about the alpha and the
omega, I am talking about YeshuaBring it up if you want to
while you're a part of theorganization, they will dismiss

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you quick, they will go silent,the whole room will go silent.
It is like you better not talkabout God in these organizations
, you better not bring up church, you better not bring up
Christianity or anything, andnobody talks about it.
So I'm trying to figure out.
How is it a Christian-basedorganization?
And I'm not learning about God,I'm not serving God in this

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organization, we're not talkingabout scripture, we're not doing
anything that's scripture based.
And then, as a matter of fact,they every organization has a
bracelet that says what wouldthe founders do, and it's
whatever the color of theorganization is.
So, if it is, delta is going tobe crimson and cream bracelet
and it literally has theinitials WTFD.

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What would or did I do thatright?
What would WW, the T, f, d, d.
Yeah, what would the foundersdo?
Is that not imitating thesaying?

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What would Jesus do?
What would Yeshua do?
Yes, it is.
Why would I care to just likethat other person did, like they
were humans?
Why are we asking what thefounders would do when they

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weren't even dealing with thesame silly mentality that greek
organizations stand on now?
They didn't even deal with thesame things.
Back in the day, greekorganizations were more of a
social political group um, atleast Delta, sigma, theta was,
until, I mean, when they decidedto leave Alpha Kappa, alpha AKA
.
All of the organizations becamepolitical, even Alpha Kappa,

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alpha AKA.
They became even more of aorganization and more of a
sorority and more of a politicalorganization upon the new
organization of Delta SigmaTheta being formed.
All of the fraternities andsororities they were all
political back in the day, sopeople were joining for deeper

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causes, like Shirley Chisholm Idon't know if you have seen the
movie called Shirley that is onNetflix now.
She was the firstAfrican-American congresswoman
and she also was the first womanto run for president of the
United States and she opened thedoors for many other

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congresswomen, senates and evenHillary Clinton, who was the
first woman to run for president, and people like Kamala, who is
a Kamala, I believe that's howyou pronounce it.
She's our first woman vicepresident of the United States.

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She opened doors for peoplelike that.
She pledged Delta Sigma Thetawhen she was an undergrad, but
back in her day it was political.
They weren't strolling and theyweren't just focusing on wearing
paraphernalia and looking cuteand hanging out with boys and
banging on people and beingterritorial.

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I'm not trying to say that itwas better to have done it then.
It's just that it stood formore than what it stands for
today.
It's more of a socialorganization today.
I don't care what any of themsay, it is a social organization
.
All of the Divine Nine Greekorganizations are social and, if
you think about it, the reasonwhy Divine Nine Black Greek

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organizations were formed isbecause white Greek
organizations would not allowthem to join, and so, instead of
black people just saying, okay,well, forget it, we don't want
to be a part of it, they decidedthey were going to do the black
version of it and so theyformed Black Greek Divine Eye
Organizations and even I mean,if you really look at the
history of it, it all comes frommasonry.

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White Greek organizations.
It's just about pledging anundergrad and being social and
having fun.
They don't have grad chaptersand things like that.
They don't take it as alifetime membership or a
lifetime organization.
They consider it to be null andvoid once they graduate from
college.
So the fact that the BlackGreek organizations were sort of

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imitating or imitating but alsoforming their own creation of
it, and then they call it alifetime membership and they
form graduate chapters and thenalso, upon death, you know they,
they uh, induct you into theOmega, omega chapter.

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I mean it's, it's ridiculous,it's ownership, it's demonic and
um, that's one of the reasonswhy I feel like Satan really
pursues black people and it'sbecause he, he knows that
they're going to bring it onhome, that they're going to put
some stank on it, okay, andthey're powerful and they're the

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leaders and influencers of theworld, and so he pursues those,
uh, just as well as with whitepeople.
So, anyhow, um, there is ascripture in the bible, matthew
16, and it says whosoever willsave his life shall lose it, and
whosoever will lose his lifefor my sake shall find it.
So if I'm going to lose myself,lose my identity, it's because

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I'm gaining God.
I'm losing my life, I'm gainingGod, right?
Um?
So so if I'm saving my life,then I'm, um, I'm, I'm.
If, if I lose my life, I'mgaining God, if I save my life,
I'm losing God, right?
So I feel like, with theorganizations, it's all about
saving your life, it's all aboutyou, you, you, you, you being a

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part of this organization, theidentity of the organization,
and that's kind of like gainingthe world but losing your soul.
And so that is when it becamespiritual for me, and leaving
was not just about the bullyingI received, the disrespect I
received, the, the lack ofauthenticity that I encountered,

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the intimidation.
It was like it became morespiritual for me once I started
realizing that theseorganizations are idols.
They are idol organization.
The Bible says let your yes beyour yes and your no be your no,
right?
So anything other than that isof the evil one.

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So you only have to really sayyes once and you only have to
say no once.
You don't have to say it twice,you don't have to say it three
times.
But yet when you're pledging,when you go to your rush and you
sign up to be a part of theorganization and they decide
okay, based on, like, what we'veresearched about you, you seem

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like a good candidate, and thenthey invite you in for
membership.
Why is that not enough?
Because, when you think aboutit, like, I'm a part of
professional organizations.
I'm a part of the Black GirlsSocial Group, I'm a part of
American PsychologicalAssociation or the

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Psychoanalytic Association, I'ma part of Los Angeles, so I'm a
part of a lot of professionalorganizations.
I used to be a part of theAmerican Red Cross, you know,
transpersonal PsychologicalAssociation, and I didn't have
to pledge.
I didn't have to pledge andguess what?
When I wanted to leave, all Ihad to do was send an email and
be like, yeah, I want to cancelmy membership, but yet with

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these organizations you have topledge, and pledging can consist
of being tormented, intimidated, verbally abused, physically
abused, psychologically abused,spiritually abused, molested.
It can involve all kinds ofgruesome things.

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I mean, I didn't have to gothrough those things because I
just had too much self-esteemand I had too much identity that
I would question everything.
I got on their last nerves.
I'm surprised that I was ableto cross.
I mean, because I was like, ifthey dropped me and I'm getting
my money back, I was.
I was really challenging them,like why, why do I have to do

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that?
Tell me the reason why.
So they, um, I challenged themso I didn't have to do a lot of
things that sacrificed, um, mydignity.
But I still did getdisrespected and that's a part
of the pledge process.
There is no positive pledgeprocess.
Your pledge process is going tobe disrespectful.

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You're going to be humiliated.
They're going to make fun ofyou.
They're going to try to breakyou down, because they're trying
to break down your personalitytraits so that you can become
the identity of the organization, because, all of a sudden,
everything you do is about theorganization.
As soon as you cross, you're nolonger you anymore.
Your birth certificate is nulland void.
Here's your new birthcertificate with your name on it
.
You were officially rebirthedand you were rebirthed on the

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day that you cross, and this isyour new identity.
So when you go out into thepublic, you're representing us.
No, it's just a organization.
Why the hell does a sisterhoodor a brotherhood have to be so
impactful?
Like?
Is your real brother and sisterthis impactful to you?
I mean, I have a sister, I havea sister.

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There are many people that havebrothers and sisters.
There's no problem, there's noissue.
So why, all of a sudden, is itan issue with, with the
organizations of that?
Because you're a part of asisterhood or a brotherhood, you

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have to um, you have to um, layyour life on the line and it
has to like, completely like,overwhelm you and take over your

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entire being.
Like, when I think about that,it's like that.
Who should get that much ofyour attention?
Is God, not some organization,just because you're a part of a
sisterhood or a brotherhood?
These people love thesisterhood and brotherhood that
they pledge more than their owndamn sisters and brothers, but

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yet they will act as if, like,this is the end, all and be all.
But it's like last time Ichecked the alpha and the omega
is the end all be all, not theseGreek organizations.
I'm just thinking back becauseand that's probably another
reason why I've been so delayedwith doing this denouncing video

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because you have to kind ofrelive the experience.
So I'm sort of watching myheart rate on my Apple Watch as
I talk about this because I wantto make sure that I don't get
too escalated, because it'salmost like reliving a trauma.

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Talk about that, um, in the, inthe dean and the denounced world
of, like the trauma that youexperience um being a part of
these organizations.
I don't understand how, if youwere beaten, verbally abused,
physically abused, dismissed, um, shunned, disregarded, how
that's a trauma any other way,any other place, but it's like
somehow, somewhere.
It's not a trauma with, uh, theblack divine nine, it's.

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It's called pledging, it'scalled how about post traumatic
pledge disorder?
How about that?
That's what it's called.
It is a, it's a trauma.
It took me years to heal I'mtalking about years and I mean
there was a Kappa that contactedme and was like talking about
how he was planning on leavingor denouncing, and he was like

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very traumatized and he was justlike.
He almost seemed as if he washaving a site like a nervous
breakdown and he was.
He was completely.
He was not in his right mind.
I'm just going to say that,like these pledge experiences
are traumatizing.
I remember after when I pledged,like I said, I did grad chapter

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but most of us were in our 20s.
I think the youngest one on myline was 22.
She was an undergrad, she was asenior.
So what they did was theytargeted a lot of pretty
light-sks.
That was their thing, you know.
Um, and so majority of our ofour line, we were all in our 20s

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.
It was only a few people thatwere like in their 30s.
There was like a couple peoplein their 40s and it was like
maybe one or two people in there, maybe one person or maybe
maybe one or two people were 50,but for the most part everybody
was 20 something and, um, itwas, it was I don't know, it was

(54:32):
just, it was just a lot like.
When I think about it, I'm likegosh, what a horrible
experience.
I remember, after I finished theprocess, every time my phone
rung and my heart would dropbecause I thought it was them.
You know the big sisterscalling because they like, they
like, literally call you at fivein the morning, six in the
morning, they'll have you dothings, they'll tell you to go
places and so it's like, oryou'll be getting messages from

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people and you know you'll see,from your pledge sisters like um
telling you that we got to dothis, we got to do.
It's a very anxiety provokingexperience.
And then, after you cross yourbig sister, people still haze
you a little bit.
They call it hazing.
That's what pledging really is.
But people still sort of hazeyou a bit, like because now

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you're considered a Neo and soeverybody wants added with the
Neo, everybody wants tochallenge the Neo and yeah, yeah
, people will still challengeyou and mess with you.
I mean, people get yourinformation.
I remember getting emails frompeople I'd never met before.
I remember like my number beinggiven to people I had not given
my number to.
I remember like guys you knowbeing like oh, who is that?

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And then you know myinformation being shared with
them.
Like it is not.
I don't feel like it's safe tobe a part of these organizations
.
To be honest with you, um, I'mgonna be honest with you.
I I was there when, when umAngela Bassett was inducted,
when she was inducted as ahonorary member.

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I was there.
She walked past me, me, I wasat her ceremony, if you will,
and yeah, she crossed in 2013.
I was at her ceremony and, uh,she had experienced the loss of
a parent and her information wasemailed to us, like her
telephone number, her address,everything like oh, here's, this

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is where you can send SarahAngela.
You know Bassett, you knowcondolences and flowers and that
and I hate to bring her up inher situation to make my point
but the point that I'm trying tomake is that, like they sent a
celebrity actress, herinformation to all of what over
300,000 women her information toall of what over 300,000 women

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because we're talking about in2013, that it was over 300,000
women in the organization.
Then that was 11 years ago,right, so if it was 300,000 or
more women back then, I mean youguys sent her information, her
personal cell, her address, youknow, and also to her address.

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Let me not say too much, butlet's just say I wasn't far from
where she lived.
Like you, just because you're apart of a sisterhood or a
sorority does not mean everybodyis safe Now I'm safe, I'm good.
I protected the information notmean everybody is safe now I'm
safe, I'm good.
I protected the information.
However, everybody's not safe.
You don't know what people,what mental?
Some people have mentaldisabilities.

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It does not matter if they'rein Greek organizations.
Now I took the information and Ifelt like I wanted to protect
it.
But they sent it to us.
It wasn't even encrypted, likeit wasn't even like in a in a
protected file with a code.
I was like anybody could likepull up this email, like any.
Some people don't close theiremails out after they use it.
Some people pull their emailsup at work.

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Some people pull their email.
Some people have a sharedcomputer in their household and
everybody uses the same computerand they don't fully log out
like anybody could have gottenher information.
Her information could have beenshared online.
You know, some people might beenvious because she's a
celebrity.
Some people might wish theywere her.
Some people might be jealous,like it's just, it's not a safe

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organization.
I remember this there was a guywho was at an event and he was
a Q and he wanted to, you know,hit on me and somehow, some way,
he ended up getting myinformation and it was like I
hate that.
I hated that people could findout who I was where I lived, my
telephone number.
I don't like that.
It's like these people in theseGreek organizations are like

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investigators.
They can find out anythingabout you.
Let me tell you how, how goodof the investigations are Like
when I was, when I was um goingthrough the prop, when I had
been selected to be a DST and umI was getting my paperwork and
everything together.
The person who wrote my letterto to basically recommend me

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cause you cannot get into theorganization unless you have
that endorsement.
But the person who endorsed mewas like my old prince unless
you have that endorsement.
But the person who endorsed mewas like my old prince, vice
principal from high school, andshe happened to be bad to the
bone, happened to be probablythe only black vice principal at
an all at a white school.
I went to Palisades CharterHigh School and bad to the bone,

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but she endorsed me.
Right, but this she pulled myhigh school records.
I'm like what?
I'm like I have a bachelor's.
I'm like I have a master's.
I'm like why are you pulling myhigh school records?
She's like I wanted to knowwhat kind of high school student
you were.
That's why there's a deltaeverywhere you can think of If

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you're not going to be a part ofthat, if let's just say you are
interested in being a part ofthe Greek organization.
The divine nine is what I'mtrying to say.
There is a person from thatsorority or fraternity that has
someone everywhere.
They have every.
There is a lawyer, there's ajudge, there's a teacher,
there's a somebody that worksfor the IRS.
There's somebody that works forthe FBI.
There's a cop.
There is a judge, there's ateacher.
There's somebody who works forthe IRS.
There's somebody who works forthe FBI.

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There's a cop.
There's a psychologist, thereis a therapist.
Every field that you canpossibly think of, every kind of
person that you can possiblythink of, is in these
organizations, from sociopathsto narcissists to bipolar

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borderlines.
Good people, happy people, sadpeople, aggressive people, scary
people, intimidating people.
Every personality trait, inevery field, industry that you
can possibly think of, is aperson in those organizations.
If they want to find you, ifthey want to find out something
about you, if they want to pullup records that are hidden about

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you it can be divorce records.
I'm not talking about somethingcrazy, because they normally
don't select people who have anykind of legal issues.
Most people who are part ofthese organizations don't have
any, because they all went tocollege and they're all, like
you know, degreed, collegiate,um, um, undergraduate people, or
or they already have graduatedfrom undergrad.

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So that is one positive thing Icould say.
The organization usuallyselects people who have been in
college.
They're in college, they havedegrees, they.
They're not felons or anythinglike that.
But what the point I'm trying tomake is that they can find out
anything about you.
I mean, and it's like I don'thave anything to hide, like that

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but it's still intrusive anddisgusting, because you know
psychologists and lawyers we'rekind of the ones that are used
to like investigating andfinding out things.
So imagine when it's done toyou, right, so these people can
find out anything about you.
Like I remember they found out,like my family members were
accused they found out.
How the hell did they find thatout?
I mean, like no one, I neversaid anything about it.

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My family members live 3000miles away.
I was like, how did they findit out?
They can find out anything andit's not safe.
So anyhow, gosh, it's so much.
But basically, when you're partof these organizations, you are
worshiping a Greek God, and ifyou do not worship that Greek

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God, that spirit, that idol,attacks you.
Now people might say it's notan idol.
Yes, it is, because the Biblesays you cannot serve two
masters.
You will either hate one orlove the other.
That is how it is in theorganization.
People are either of God allthe way through and then they're
kind of disconnected from theorganization, or they are not

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really of God or not reallyserving strong, or their walk is
kind of you know off at thattime, and then you're truly
serving the organization but youdon't really see both happening
, because it's impossible toserve two masters.
And I noticed that with me whenI was really really in my walk,
when I was really really strongin the church, I wasn't around

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them.
And then when I fell off, I wasreally really in my walk, when
I was really really strong inthe church, I wasn't around them
.
And then when I fell off, I wasaround them and it's like I'm
like huh, I noticed that it's abattle.
Why can't I?
If they say you can be Greekand you can be of God, um, no,
you can't.
Let me tell you.
I thought when, when someonetold me a pastor who would
denounce who, who he haddenounced alpha, phi alpha.
He told, told me you cannot beGreek and be of God.

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I said oh, yes, I can.
He said listen.
He said we all say it.
He said I thought I could betoo.
He was like I'm here to tellyou.
He was like you can't.
I argued him until the sun cameup.
He said you're not ready yet.
He said I did the same exactthing you did.
I argued until the sun came up.
He was like you can't.
And later, years later, here Iam saying the same thing you

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cannot be Greek in God, trust me.
I go to Revelation Church withProphet Lovi.
There are some people in theministry that are a part of the
Divine Eye organization and theyhave agreed that you are
serving two masters organizationand they have agreed that you
are serving two masters.
They do not bring up the thethe divine eye organizations,

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they do not wear paraphernaliaand they are fully in the
ministry, fully of the church.
They're fully in God.
So that right there should tellyou something, because it's
it's sort of impossible.
It's it is impossible becausethose Greek gods hate Yahweh,
they do not honor Yahweh,because, think about it right,

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satan's job or not job.
But his desire was to riseabove the clouds and to make
himself like God.
Greek gods are imitating thepower of God.
They want to be like God.
So, for them, they're always incompetition.
So, and also, if you think aboutit, right, the first
organization of the Divine Ninewas Alpha Phi, alpha.

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They were founded in 1906.
Right.
And then Omega Psi Phi wasfounded in 1911.
Right, dig this.
When you are a Q Psi Phi, whenyou are a Q dog, you're an Omega
man.
That's what they call you.
When you're a part of Alpha PhiPhi, when you are a Q-Dog,
you're an Omega man.
That's what they call you.
When you're a part of Alpha PhiAlpha, they call you an Alpha.
Is that not Alpha and Omega?

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Last time I checked, the realMessiah, the Alpha and the Omega
, is Yahweh and Yeshua.
That is the Alpha and the Omega.
God and Jesus Christ.
Those are the only Alphas andOmegas.
There is no other alpha andomega.
But yet there's an organizationcalled Alpha Phi, alpha and
Omega Psi Phi, and they callthemselves Alpha and Omegas.

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So that, right there, lets youknow that they're serving two
masters, that the whole goal isto try to compete with the
creator of the universe, and,and and and.
Hey, I am a psychologist.
I can tell, test something,retest it, look for the validity
, the relay, reliability.
I, I'm an experiment, I am likea experimental psychologist.

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I'm a research psychologist,like I, research.
That's what I do.
Um, I'm, I'm, I'm very socialpsychological.
I mean, I do a lot of socialstudies and I have tested this
theory and there, when I was inthe organization, I remember
that no one talked about God andwhen God came up it was like

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the room got silent.
And then they do these littlelike um, omegas go to church, or
deltas go to church, or alphasgo to church.
They do like church days.
And then they, they instructeveryone to show up wearing the,
the greek colors and wearing aparaphernalia, and then they're
going to go for the churchsermon.
It's like, why would you go tochurch wearing greek letters?

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Why are we instructed to weargreek letters?
It's almost like saying well,we know you exist, but we don't
worship you.
It's the same way.
The devil believes in god.
So remember, the devil knowsthat there is a god, but the
devil doesn't worship god.
That's the difference.
So it's almost like we're goingto show up and do our little
church day so that we can givethe appearance that we're

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christian based.
But we're going to show up,we're in our colors, our
paraphernalia, and then we'regoing to um, we're going to show
up wearing our colors, ourparaphernalia, and then we're
going to look like a system whenwe're here, like you don't ever
see anybody praise dancing, youdon't ever see anyone falling
out, you don't ever see anyonedonating fun I mean tidying is
what I'm trying to say you don'tever see anything that looks

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golly.
It's just like 20,000 peoplethat show up wearing the same
color.
I remember when we did thechurch day at City of Refuge
with Bishop Noel Jones, who isthe grandfather of my spiritual
papa.
So, anyhow, I remember when wewere instructed to wear crimson

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and cream and we were all goingto show up at church, and so
basically it was like to wearcrimson and cream and we were
all going to show up at church,and so basically it was like
what?
A hundred of us?
And you know, we had our ownsection, and I remember Bishop
Noel Jones saying who are thoseladies in the sea of red?
And they were like oh, that'sthe Delta Sigma Theta.
And he was like Delta, sigmaTheta.
And then he, like greeted.
I was like this is so like,narcissistic, like why do we

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have to show up and wear a colorthat represents the
organization?
Why can't we show up in ourregular clothes and look like
everybody else?
That, right, there is proofthat you can't serve two masters
.
And, like I said, there is notalk about spirituality, there's
no talk about the word of God,there's no biblical scriptures
or anything.

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And also, too, word of God.
There's no biblical scripturesor anything.
And also, too, back in the day,a lot of the chants were very
gospel sounding Like.
There was this chant ohheavenly father, poor old me not
.
So that's very gospel,christian sounding right.
But that still does not make aChristian base.

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It just means that the founderswere Christian, and that's how
it was back in the day.
It was very religious.
That's how Black people gotthrough their misery, and so
everything was sounding likegospel music back in the day.
Everything, even thoseplantation songs, were very
gospel-like, were very gospellike go down, moses, right into

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Egypt land, tell all pharaohs tolet my people go.
Everything was gospel soundingback in those horrible days.
And so, um, I can see throughthat too.
Um, like I said, you have toworship these Greek gods.
Also, when you get married,there's a chant, that that you
are instructed to do, and thethe.

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The chant is um, I'm gonna, I'mgonna do the chant, okay, um,
but I'm gonna, I'm going to, youknow, repent, reke.
I do not receive this as my ownchant, but this is the chant
when people get married at theirwedding, if they are a Delta,
and the chant is she may be anomega sweetheart or the dream

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girl of a fire, she may wear thecap or diamond, but her first
love.
And then they say theorganization's name.
So basically, even at thewedding, they're going to follow
you to your wedding.
This spirit, this idol, followsyou to your wedding.

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This spirit, this idol, followsyou to your wedding and
basically says that we don'tcare if you marry an Omega, psi
Phi, an Alpha, a Kappa, we don'tcare if it's a regular dude on
the street.
Your first love is thisorganization.
Do you hear that your firstlove is DST?
No, my first love is God,yahweh period.

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So when you pass away, theyinduct you into the Omega, omega
service.
And that is basically saying,basically, when you pledge these
organizations, they say it's alifetime commitment.
Nothing is a lifetimecommitment.
God says that you can repent.
A lifetime commitment.
God says that you can repent,you can be forgiven for your
sins and you will be set free.

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And those who are set free aretruly free.
Indeed, there's no such thingas like a lifetime commitment.
Even if a person was doingwitchcraft or they were
sacrificing bodies and drinkingblood, they can still repent and
give their life over to Christ.
There is no sin that is biggerthan the forgiveness of God.

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So the fact that theseorganizations teach you that
it's a lifetime commitment isdemonic.
And so when you die, yourspirit returns back to God, and
we all know that Satan is in afight to get your soul upon
death right, because when you gointo the afterlife, you're
either going to go to theheavenly realm or you're going
to go to the hell realm.
So the fact that they followyou to your funeral and induct
you into the Omega Omega serviceupon death, lets me know right

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there.
That is demonic, because why doI need to be inducted into
anything in the afterlife if myspirit returns to God?
Do you mean to tell me that youthink people are walking around
in heaven with Delta, sigma,theta, paraphernalia on?
Are you serious?
Do you think that when you meetyour maker, that you're going

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to see your grandmother in theheavenly realm strolling, that
you're going to see your auntiewith a Greek jacket on.
You're not.
That is separation, that isdivision, and the heavenly realm
is all about unison.
We are family, we are thebloodline of Abraham.
We are not divisive.
When you enter into the heavenlyrealm, you are not known by

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your last name.
You are not the Jacksons, theJohnsons.
You are not a psychologist.
You're not a doctor.
You are not a lawyer.
You are not the rich guy, thebillionaire.
You're none of those.
You cannot take your materialpossessions with you.
These are earthly titles.
There's no such thing as apsychologist in the heavenly
realm.
There's no therapist in theheavenly realm.
There's no medical doctor inthe heavenly realm.

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There's no dentist, nochiropractor.
There's no medical doctor inthe heavenly realm.
There's no dentist, nochiropractor.
There's no division in theheavenly realm.
Everything is perfect.
There's no need for a doctorbecause everything is perfect.
You don't need anything to befixed because everything is
perfect.
It's harmonious.
And so the fact that, upon death, they induct you into the Omega

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Omega service is demonic.
Why can't you just pray thatthe person returned, their
spirit returned to God, and thatthey enter into the heavenly
realm and that when God answersthe door, he will say well done,
good and faithful servant, andallow them to enter.
Why are you not praying forthat?
Allow them to enter?

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Why are you not praying forthat?
Why are you concerned aboutsomeone being inducted into a
false fantasy?
Omega, omega service, like?
Do you really believe thatthere's an omega, omega service
in the afterlife?
If you don't knock it off, theonly omega, omega service in the
afterlife is in the hell realm,h-e-l-l.
That is the demonic realm,because everybody who pledges

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those organizations andsacrifice their soul, and they
give their soul over to thoseGreek idols.
There's a special place forthem right in hell.
And let me tell you, there arepeople who do that.
There are people who literallygive their, they trade their
soul to those Greek idols.
They say things, they teach uschants, they teach us to say

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things that I never said,because I was terrified.
I was like, if I say this, it isalmost like I am, I'm giving my
soul to Satan.
I wouldn't even say it.
I would be like da, da, da, da,da, like there's this evictus
point that everyone does in theDivine Nine, and so, basically,

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I think it's like I am thecaptain Wait, I'm sorry, I am
the.
What is it?
Gosh, I am the something of mydestiny, and then leader of my
destiny, or something like that.
And then it says then you haveto say the organization is the

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captain of your soul.
And I would always be like Godis the captain of my soul.
I never said it.
I never said the organizationwas like.
I always say God is the captainof my soul because they make you
rehearse it over and over andover again, every day that
you're, that you're going to thesets they make you rehearse
every single day evictus, andyou have to say that the

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organization is captain of yoursoul.
I never did.
I always said God is thecaptain of my soul and no one
ever challenged me.
So that, right there, lets youknow that it's demonic.
No one said anything, and notonly that, but there was a
reason why I didn't say it.
So when people say that, they'reliterally like it's, like it's
witchcraft, it's like signingyourself over to a witch, to a

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warlock, to an altar, becausethat altar becomes your symbol,
that symbol follows you, that,that, that Greek God, becomes
your covenant.
No, I'm under the covenant ofcovenant of Yahweh.
Here he is.
I don't need nothing elsecovering me but God and
everything that comes throughGod.
So there's another chance thatthey have, and usually you'll

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see these chants at probates Allof my love, my peace and
happiness.
Love, my peace and happiness,I'm going to give it to blah,
blah, blah, blah.
All of my love, my peace andhappiness, I'm going to give it
to you know.
So when you're, when you hearthose chants, they sound cool

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and you, it's just the songright, but it's just like
rapping a rap song Affirmations.
You're saying affirmations.
Life and death is in the powerof the tongue, as a man thinketh
.
So is he?
One thing about Satan is Satandoesn't care if you're playing.
Satan doesn't care if it's ajoke, satan doesn't care if
you're singing a song, if you'rerehearsing a chant, satan
doesn't even care if you don'treally believe it.

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What Satan cares is that yousaid it and that creates a legal
right.
So when you're doing all thosechants evictus, the wedding
chant, the all of my love chantsyou are literally, you are like
signing your life over to thosedemons.

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You're signing your life overto those Greek gods, to those
altars and to those masters.
So they say you know you'resigning yourself over to that
stuff.
So I never set those chance.
I was like I'm not about to sayall of my love, my peace and
happiness is to some sorority.
Why?
Why is all of my love, my peaceand my happiness?
Why am I giving it to anorganization that I didn't

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pledge until the early 2000s?
I was born in the 80s.
Why am I going to give all ofmy love and peace and happiness
to an organization that I didn'tpledge until I was in my 20s?
So where was all of my love,peace and happiness going before
then?
So let me get this straight.
God created me.
I was made in love.
I was fearfully and wonderfullycreated, but all of my love,

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peace and happiness goes to someother place.
No, my love, all of it, mypeace, all of it, my happiness,
all of it is returned back toGod.
I give it all to God.
I give the glory to God.
So the fact that you say thesechants because they're so cute
this is why I'm so happy Ididn't pledge an undergrad,
because I don't think.

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I think I probably would havesaid it, just because you know
my brain was still developingand I didn't.
I wouldn't have known anybetter.
But hey, I pledged in gradchapter and I was in my 20s and
there was people in there intheir 20s, 30s and they still
said it.
So I don't want to be black andwhite with it, but I personally
am glad that I didn't do itwhen I was younger and I

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actually had to repent for doingit in the first place, because
if I could do it all over again,I would never, ever in my
entire life, pledge anything.
If I could erase it from myexperience, I would Let me tell
you something Pledging a Greekorganization, a Divine Nine
organization, delta Sigma Theta.
I'm going to tell you right nowit was the organization Delta
Sigma Theta.

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I'm gonna tell you right now itwas the worst, one of the worst
decisions I have ever made inmy life, one of the worst
decisions I've ever made in mylife, and I have not made many
bad decisions, but that was oneof the worst.
And it would, and I would saythe same thing if it was Alpha,
kappa, alpha, uh, if it was PhiBeta I mean, I'm sorry, zeta,
phi Beta if it was Sigma GammaRho, I would say the same thing,

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because it is not just asisterhood, it's a cult.
It is not just a brotherhood,it is a cult.
It is not just an organizationof focusing on community service
and Christian faith.
No, it is a secret society andit's also an idol organization.

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So I had to repent for my sins.
I had to repent for everything.
I did, everything Iparticipated in, for having a
certificate with my name when Ihad to burn that.
I had to repent for everyparticipation that I gave to
this.
I had to repent and I had toask for forgiveness.
And so I'm going to be honestwith you.

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When I was in undergrad, I tooka logics class and it was a very
hard class.
A lot of people didn't do wellin the class, but I did
extraordinarily well in theclass because I'm very logical
and so I remember it was a classof like 50 people and I was
always like the top 10, whoalways had the best papers, the

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best.
I always did well on all thetests.
I was always in a top 10.
And let me tell you, one of thethings I learned from the
logics class is that you alwayshave to be able to argue the for
and the against.
That's how lawyers are taughtto.
That's how.
That's what they're taught inargumentation is that you have
to be able to argue the for andthe against.
So I led my life in that waythat if I can argue the for and

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the against and I could stillmake a decision, then that means
it's the right decision.
So, wanting to be a part of aGreek organization Delta Sigma
Theta I was able to argue thefor, but I did not have the
against, and so I was ultimatelymaking a decision without the
against.
So what I did was I went online.
I looked for people who weredenouncing Delta Sigma Theta.

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I found nothing.
The only people I found whowere denouncing Delta Sigma
Theta, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
The only people I found whowere denouncing organizations,
greek organizations, was AKA,zeta, phi, beta, sigma, gamma,
rho, iota, and I was like, well,of course they're going to
denounce.
You know what I mean?
Come on, aka.
No, come on, it's prettybubblegum.
You know that's how I wasthinking.

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Then I'm like I mean come on,they're not even a top
organizations like that.
You know, um, of course they'regoing to denounce, right?
Um, I could not find one Q, Icould not find one alpha, I
couldn't find one Delta, Icouldn't find one Kappa, and
those were the top organizations, like AKA is one of the top
organizations as well, butthey're all.
They also have a reputation forbeing paper, for being weak,

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for being like bubble gum, andso you know, of course you know
people make fun of their entireinitiation process, which is the
pledge process.
So it may sense to me that theywere at that time, it may sense
to me At that time, it madesense to me.
But had I found one video ofsomeone denouncing Delta Sigma

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Theta, I'm going to tell youright now I would not be a Delta
or I wouldn't have ever pledgedit.
I wouldn't have never pledgedDelta.
I'm not a Delta Sigma Theta,but I wouldn't have never
pledged Delta Sigma Theta in thefirst place Never if I could
have just found one video.
And so when I speak to peoplewho are interested in being a

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part of the organizations, Iknow that I'm projecting my
experience, but I'm just tryingto give them that against piece,
because you can always argue,you can always stand in the for,
but if you can't stand in theagainst, then ultimately you're
making a decision without fullybeing educated.
And so I always give them asmuch knowledge as I have.

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I can speak on the good.
I can see why somebody wouldwant to be a part of a Greek
organization.
I can see why somebody wouldwant to be, you know, connected
with these intelligent blackleaders and, you know, educated
people.
I can see why somebody wouldwant to be connected with them.
It's like over a million people, you know.

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If you do the math, it's overlike a million people.
I mean, yeah, I can see howsomebody could want to be a part
of that.
However, the fact that you haveto trade your identity, your
soul, you have to give up God.
You have to give up God firstand foremost, then your identity
second, and then you know whatyou stand for and what you stand

(01:23:57):
on, it's like the cost is toohigh.
Anytime I have to character,assassinate myself or I have to
erase myself or I have to becomeinvisible, the cost is too high
.
So all I'm saying is I'm hereto put this video out so that

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you can have all the information.
Ok, I'm going to say somepositive things, and most of
what I'm going to say is goingto be warnings, red flags,
alerts.
Listen to the sirens.
So, yeah, that's what it is.

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Evictus is master of your fate.
And then you say theorganization is captain of your
soul, the devil is a lie.
I wish I would.
First of all, god is in chargeof my fate as well.
Like, oh my God, demonic.

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A lot of people who are part ofthese Greek organizations.
They do not care about the factthat this is ungodly, this is
the idol.
They don't care because they'renot fully in, in, in, in living
in a lifestyle period.
A lot of people just say, hey,it was raised Christian and
raised Catholic.
They think that that's enough.
Just believing in God is enough.
They don't live by thelifestyle, so they don't care
about being a part of anorganization like this, because

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they're like, well, you know,they're not really serving God
anyway, they're not a discipleanyway, they're not living in
their purpose anyway.
And then also they'redisassociated.
They're disassociated.
A lot of people are embarrassedof their, of what they did
through in their pledge processthat they just kind of like
stand on on business, like, no,no, it's great, it's wonderful,

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I loved it, and it's like, no,you don't.
You just are embarrassed.
You know you're embarrassed,you don't love it, you're
embarrassed and um, and that'swhat it is.
But um, in addition to to being, to feeling embarrassed, um,
they make you go through apledge process, no matter how

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long it is, because they wantyou to have a commitment to it,
a loyalty to it, because whatyou work hard for you tend to
value more so than whatever wasgiven to you free and easily.
So that's the whole psychologybehind pledging and hazing.
Um, but good night, good nightto all of that.

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I don't feel like I need tosuffer to gain anything positive
.
So, um, I'm saying all that tosay that many greeks are
separated from god in the firstplace, so they don't care to
leave the organization becauseit's not founded on the
principles of Yahweh, it's notof God, it's not Christian

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organization.
So they don't care anyway.
And let me tell you, let me,let me let you know how, how
Christian based is not.
Do you know that there arepeople who are in the Nation of
Islam that are part of likeGreek organizations?
They're like Muslims.
There are Muslims that are inthe nation of Islam that are
part of like Greek organizations.
They're like Muslims.
There are Muslims that are inthe Greek organizations.
Buddhists, atheists, agnostic,witches, warlocks, they're all

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in the Greek organizations, butyet it's Christian based.
Really, okay, because no oneasked me my religion or
spiritual faith or habits oranything in order to get into
the organization.
So, like I say, you don't knowwho's on your line.
You could be on the line withwitches, warlocks, catholics,

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satanists um mace, masons free,uh, eastern stars, um, who do?
Who do people um new agers.
It could be all kinds of people.
You just don't know.
So one of the things, too, Iexperienced being a part of a

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greek organization was that itwas like a lot of like
regression and arresteddevelopment, like um, a lot of
the people who are in the gradchapters.
It's like they're arrested intheir development, like they're
just kind of like trying torelive the past, like I'm.
I'm a very emotionally matureperson, so for me I'm just I
pick up on that kind of stuffreally fast, because some of the
arguments that people had, someof the complaints that people

(01:28:23):
had, I'm like this complaintsthat people had, I'm like this
is like something a 15-year-oldwould like be, you know, bent
out of shape about this is sostupid.
Like it was like catty.
It was like Mean Girl, like themovie Mean Girls.
It was really that kind ofexperience Like when I see the
movie Mean Girls I always thinkof like the sorority because

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that's what it felt like.
It felt like I was at the cooltable but like they were, we
were like throwing um pencilsand pens and like spit balls at
like all of the other people.
Because you know, ds, you knowdeltas are all about being cool.
They're the cool kids you know,or may you know being cool.

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They're the cool kids.
You know.
Q-dogs, they're the cool kids.
Kappas, they're the cool kids,the noobs.
So those are the three coolorganizations.
It's so corny, you know.
So they're all about being cool.
So that's.
It was just very regressive andarrested and I found this to be
quite immature.
I found the arguments, thecomplaints, the tantrums that

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people were having.
I was like are you seriously 40having a tantrum like that?
I was like this is, are youkidding me?
You know, I was just like thisis ridiculous and I think it's
because, like I said, peopledon't grow up and there are
people who cross in graduatechapters and they they go on to
be a part I'm sorryundergraduate chapters and
collegiate chapters and thenthey go on to be a part of the

(01:29:54):
graduate chapters and they stillact like children, because it's
almost like being 21 forever.
It's like being 21, forever.
Um, also, there's a saying inthe greek world um, if a person
is not of a in a greekorganization, they call them

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gdis, and I hate so that's whatit means.
And um, basically, they makefun of people who are not in
greek organizations.
They call them gdis.
They're like, yeah, you know,like if you're talking about

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someone, or if you're giving astory about something that
happened at work, or if you'rejust talking about just a random
experience you have, they'relike is that person a GDI?
Is that person you know?
So, basically, there's thisthing of like oh, gdis behave a
particular way because they'renot a part of something.
They're like orphans of theworld, you know, and they're

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like, and they kind of make funof them, and I'm like.
What that sounds like to me isthat you're making fun of people
who have individuality andpeople who are able to think for
themselves and people who haveidentity, and I was one of those
people.
So I always felt like a GDI whowas within a sorority and it
didn't fit.
I was not a fit, I stuck outlike a sore thumb.

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But they had they also had anopportunity they could have.
They could have dropped me fromline, from the line.
They could have dropped me fromthe line.
They could have dropped me.
I could have got my money back,we could have went on with our
lives.
No, they wanted me.
Okay, because they know whatquality is.
They wanted me.
But I was a GDI and I alwayssaid that in me.

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I think our first day, ourfirst pledge day, or whatever
they were saying what is asorority to you?
What does that mean to you?
And they had every last one ofus stand up and kind of give our
opinion about it and I was liketo me, I feel like it's synergy
, it's like individuals comingtogether as one.

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And everybody shot me down.
They were like, oh, boo, andI'm like what?
And I didn't understand whyeveryone disagreed with me.
But now that I think back, I'mlike, oh, it's because I sounded
too GDI.
You know, like what do you mean?
Individuals coming together asone.
There's no such thing asindividuals.
So they teach you basicallythat you're one, that there is

(01:32:23):
no individuality.
You're one, you're one brain,you're one mind, you're one
thought and that's it.
You are as strong as yourweakest link.
And it's like I didn't agreewith that.
I believed that I had a rightto be an individual and come
together with others and createa harmony, and that's the God in

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me, because that's how it is inthe spiritual realm.
Everyone has their uniquefingerprint, but everyone is in
sync and working together inharmony.
And so in the Greekorganizations, no, they want to
kill off your individual thought, your individuality, and they
want you to become one of them.
This is the reason why I thinkthat if you are trying to be a

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part of a Greek organization,after a certain age, you need to
rethink that decision, becausewhen I pledged, I was in my 20s
and I felt like I was too mature.
I was like this is so immature.
I felt like so above it.
I was like this is so highschool, this is so high school.
You're calling me, you'rewaking me up, you're telling me

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I got to go get this and I gotto go get that.
I have to show up here, I haveto show up there, and then we
had to give them gifts.
It was so stupid Like I'm goingto be honest.
It was so stupid.
It's like you have to loweryour intelligence, dim yourself
down in order to even getthrough it.
You have to be completelydisassociated.
There's no way you can be inyour right mind and do that
stuff.
Like I mean there are people whohave way worse stories than

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mine.
Like there are people I knowsomebody who was on the aka line
and I think in a year 2000, no2002 I believe and one of the
girls they they had their girlsgo to the beach and they were
like making that.
They told them like they neededto swim or do something.
And one of the girls, they hadtheir girls go to the beach and
they were like making that.
They told them like they neededto swim or do something.
And one of the girls was like Ican't swim and they were like
you better get in that water.

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I mean, this is not funnybecause the girl ended up dying
and they dropped the line.
And I know someone who was onthat line and I'm thinking to
myself.
There are people who have died.
There are people who have beenbadly injured.
There are people who have beentaught you know, sexually
assaulted.
There are people who have umhad to put their significant

(01:34:50):
other up for grabs in order tobe a part of the organization.
Like they literally tell youlike to like, give your life
over, like anything we want bewilling to give it to us.
They'll sometimes tell you youcan't talk to your family, um,
that you can't talk to yourfamily, that you can't talk to
your husband, you can't be amother during that time.
It's ridiculous.

(01:35:10):
How is this not acting like anidol?
There was a girl I pledged withwho was a medical doctor and
she couldn't work during theprocess.
How can you tell an ER medicaldoctor that they cannot work?
You can't save lives.
You can't help people.
You can't help people live.
This is your life.
Are you kidding me?
It's like it's complete,complete, satanic, completely.

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They make fun of GDIs.
Like, for some reason, they'retrying to use the badge of honor
, like, oh yeah, I was beat, andthey brag about like how badly
they were beaten, how hard theypledged, all the things that
they had to go through.
It becomes like this badge ofhonor and then people say, well,

(01:36:01):
how long did you pledge?
Oh, I pledged this long.
What'd you go through?
I went through this, that andthey like brag about it and
that's supposed to indicate thatlike, oh, the harder you pledge
, the more you were hazed, themore of the organization you are
.
So the more Delta you are, themore AKA you are, which AKA's
have a reputation for notpledging, so they're not like
respected in terms of likepledging in the divine nine

(01:36:26):
realm, but nonetheless, the more, the harder you pledge, the
more alpha you are, the moresigma you are, the more kappa
you are, whatever, the more nupeyou are.
So that's a thing in the divinenine that like, the harder that
you're hazed like, the more youare you know of the

(01:36:47):
organization, the more rep, themore of a representative you are
of the organization.
Like I remember and people lietoo, cause I remember I was at
like a like a HBCU event and oneof the girls I was friends with
.
We happened to be a hater onthe low, but, um, she was
talking about how her big sisterbeat, the beat the mess out of

(01:37:07):
her, and she was like, oh my god, she beat me so bad.
And I'm thinking to myself likeyou're a girl and you're over
here bragging about how you gotbeaten.
And then it's like clearlyshe's lying and it's like
clearly some badge of honor.
And it's like I'm sorry, but noone put their hands on me.
They knew better.
I going to tell you right now,I don't care how big, bad,
intimidating deltas are.

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They knew not to put theirhands on me.
They even stated that they feltlike it would be all bad for
them if they tried.
They just could feel it.
They could feel it on my spirit.
I'm telling you the Lord'sangels protecting me because I
was like I promise, if somebodyputs their hands on me it's

(01:37:49):
going to be our IP, like ahomicide.
But luckily nobody did.
They wanted to, nobody did.
But people where there's thisbragging about being from the
hood or being in a violent,abusive situation or overcoming

(01:38:15):
it and acting as if you earnsome sort of stripes, that's a
demonic spirit as well, and Ihad to realize that that is the
reason why those generationalcurses, aka intergenerational
curses, continue, because peoplebrag about being abused Like
you can't, you can't even bearound people of color and be

(01:38:38):
like, yeah, man, I went throughthis and that they're like well,
that's nothing, I got robbed atgunpoint.
It's like no, that's notanything to brag about, that's
trauma.
Okay, so let's heal from ourtrauma and not create it as a
badge of honor.
It's nothing to be proud of.
Anybody that abuses me createda wound and that was a wound I

(01:38:59):
had to heal from and I'm notproud of that.
Okay, no, greater is he that'sin me than he that's in the
world.
God has never beaten me, hazedme or hurt me.
That is all demonic.
That is Satan.
And Satan does the pledge me,work hard for me, dangles the
carrot, pretends like it'ssomething behind the red cut

(01:39:20):
curtain.
You know that's a Satan thing.
The Bible says that your yes beyour yes and your no be your no
.
That means you do not have tosuffer to gain, although through
suffering you do gain in manyinstances, because the devil is
sandpaper.
But we're talking about Greekorganizations.
What are you gaining?
For me personally, I didn'tfeel like I gained anything from

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it.
I realized I didn't need them.
These organizations areadvertised as community-based
organizations and they're notcommunity-based.
The programs that they come upwith are like so minuscule, it's
like no one knows about it.
It's not highly advertised onsocial media.

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I've never met anyone in myentire life that's like, yeah,
my daughter's a part of theDelta Sigma, theta, or my son's
a part of the Omega Psi Phi.
I've never heard anyone saythat in my entire life, unless
they were a part of the Greekorganizations.
I've never heard any outsiderssay that.
So it's like it's it's notreally community based.

(01:40:29):
Let's let's call a spade aspade.
It was community based back inthe early 1900s.
But since then, I would saymoving on on until like maybe
the 80s, I think that it's beenpretty social, because the
seventies, you remember, waslike the, the black Panther.
Um, there's a lot of civilrights stuff happening.

(01:40:50):
The sixties was definitelycivil rights.
The fifties was like Jim Crow,segregation, you know.
So, like, like I said, it wascommunity based in the 1900s but
, um, since about the eighties,it's been pretty social.
My uncle crossed in the eightsand he was like, yeah, the same
stuff they argue about, fightabout and claim to stand on is

(01:41:12):
the same stuff we were saying inthe 80s and it's been pretty
social since then.
So these are socialorganizations at this point,
because, if you think about it,if it's Christian based and it's
community based, as theyproclaim, then what does
strolling, stepping, wearingparaphernalia, hazing and

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pledging, what does any of thathave to do with being a
community based organization?
How is that community based?
And not only that, but, like,back in the days they weren't
doing all that pledging andhazing stuff.
It wasn't about that at all.
It was about political, apolitical stance.
You know, back in the day itwas very safe to be a part of

(01:41:57):
some sort of group, be it CivilRights, black Panther, be it the
Harriet Tubman group, be it theBlack Caucus, jack and Jill,
whatever.
It was very safe.
So if it was a sorority orfraternity, then that was the
group.
But at this point today, intoday's world, there is no need

(01:42:23):
to be a part of theseorganizations for the reasons
that they claim that they standon.
I mean community, communitybased.
I can do that on my own.
I can join the American RedCross, I can join volunteersorg.
I can call any nonprofit in theworld and say, hey, do you need
me?
Volunteers, I can.
I can clean up a fee thehomeless.
There's a woman that started anonprofit where she feeds the

(01:42:45):
homeless people in downtown LosAngeles.
She gets, she goes out, shefeeds them.
That's community-based um.
I'm a psychologist and that is acommunity-based field.
Social workers arecommunity-based um.
Workers, um.
Sociologists arecommunity-based or workers.
So are teachers, um.
Any kind of pro bono work thatI do.

(01:43:05):
Even this podcast is communitybased.
What else can I say?
The articles that I published,the blog I have that's community
based.
I'm trying to think.
Helping a neighbor is communitybased work.
Anything can be classified ascommunity work.

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So when these organizations saywe're community-based, it's like
, okay, I could see if I wasjoining the organization and I
was contributing my ideas andthey were listening and they
were saying, yeah, let's do that.
No, they literally have theirown headquarters and they they
have um members, committeemembers, board, they call them

(01:43:48):
board members.
Whatever they sit they, or theycall them um regional members.
They sit in these boardroomsand they make decisions for the
organization.
They don't get, they don't carewho's in the organization.
They don't care to address the500,000 or 600,000 women that
are in the organization or300,000 or 200,000 men that are
in the fraternities they don'tcare to address.

(01:44:10):
They come up with the programson their own and then they say
this is what we're doing as anorganization, this is the
program we're initiating as anorganization, and or chapters
decide we're going to be doingthis Like um.
I remember the Q dogs at Norfolkstate, which is where I
graduated from.
They all decided to donate, Ithink $100 each, was it $100?

(01:44:34):
Or I think it was $1,000.
I can't remember, but they allhad put like $100,000 together
and they donated it to theschool, which is very nice, but
that's community-based.
So chapters can decide to dotheir own community-based work.
But my point that I'm trying tomake is that you don't need to
be a part of an authority or afraternity in order to do

(01:44:56):
community-based work.
Like, having a TikTok can becommunity-based if you're
helping people.
Having a YouTube channel can becommunity-based If you're
helping people.
Having an Instagram whereyou're posting like educational
videos, can be a community based.
Writing a book can be communitybased.
It's all about how you, how youlook at it.
Serving in your church iscommunity based work.

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Their advertisement we'recommunity-based organizations.
No, it's a sorority, and that'swhat it is.
It's a fraternity and that'swhat it is.
It's a social group and that'sit.
Because, if you think about it,back in the day, they weren't
strolling and doing all thatstepping right.
They weren't wearing bracelets.
That says what would thefounders do?

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They weren't doing all of that.
It wasn't a gang like it is now.
So that, right there, lets meknow that it's not
community-based at all.
It's not Christian-based.
I've stated that earlier on inthe video that these are not
Christian-based organizations,right?

(01:46:04):
So, as I said before, they'renot community-based
organizations at all.
I mean, I'm sorry.
They do do community-based work, but it's not enough for you to
say, oh, I'm joining it becauseI want to be a part of do
community-based work.
Deltas allow volunteers.

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You can volunteer with everylast one of these organizations.
So that's not the reason whypeople pledge.
That's just a cap.
That is just an excuse peoplecome up with so that they can
act as if they're joining theorganization.
That's beyond social reasonsand you're not.
I know every, every jingle thatyou can come up with because I

(01:46:46):
they teach us to say it.
They say it, I said it.
I know every jingle that youcan come up with because they
teach us to say it.
They say it, I said it.
I know every jingle.
It's not community-based.
That's just what we telleveryone else.
It's not Christian-based.
There's nothing godly about it.
There's nothing Christian-basedabout it.
There is nothing that will pushyou closer to God about it.
Nothing.
It's nothing like that.
God about it.

(01:47:12):
Nothing.
It's nothing like that.
Because I have met friends atchurch, right, and our
relationship is spiritual.
Our friendship is spiritual,right, we talk about God.
That's a Christian-basedfriendship.
We're in alignment.
That's Christian-ian based.
How can't something bechristian based and the and
christianity never comes up andand talking about god, that
never comes up either.

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Um, and also, too, another thingabout these organizations is
that they, um, no matter whatyour brother or sister does to
you, they will like, just be,just be like oh well, you can
forgive it.
Oh, you're brothers and sisters, you can forgive it.
Uh, who cares?
I mean I, you, you can't chooseyour own sisters and brothers,
and it's like oh yeah, you can,because you kind of paid a fee

(01:47:54):
to join the organization, so youkind of chose them.
But, um, like I said, I thinkCain and Abel had sibling
rivalry.
Um, so why would you treat anoutsider like better than you
would treat your own siblingLike?

(01:48:15):
If I wouldn't toleratedisrespect from my own sibling,
why would I tolerate it fromsomeone just because we joined
the same sorority?
That doesn't make sense.
I always say if you come fromany kind of brokenness in your
family system, if there was anyloss or deaths or anything, if
you're an orphan, if you'readopted, if you come from any

(01:48:38):
lack of authenticity in yourfamily system, if you're
struggling with yourindividuality or your identity
or you have no family at all,you are a perfect candidate.
And I'm not saying go out anddo it.
If that's your problem, becauseyou always find you will only
be fulfilled with Yahweh, yahwehwill be the only one to fulfill

(01:49:03):
you.
Yahweh will be the only onethat's going to make your life
and your dreams come true.
So I'm never going to say goout into the world and fulfill
your destiny Never.
Destinies come from God.
So what I am saying is thatyou're probably going to get

(01:49:27):
along better in those systems.
If you're like thisunattractive girl, this
unattractive guy, this reject,or this person who was
ostracized by society, and youjoin these organizations, yeah,
you'll probably feel more athome because, for the first time
in your life, you're beingacknowledged by the people who
look like the people who brokeyou, or you're being
acknowledged by the people wholook like the people who
rejected you 're being.

(01:49:48):
There are some people that haveserious colorism issues and,
like they, they feel like, oh,people who are light skin are
this way and that way, and thenthey get into these
organizations and now thethey're we call it whoever you
pledges, that's behind you isyour back and your, and
whoever's in front of you isyour front right.
So now you're next to peoplewho's your back or your front
and people who are in the samedivine nine or the organization

(01:50:11):
as you and they look like thepeople who told you weren't good
enough.
Yeah, that is a big self-esteembooster.
And some people, becausethey're unhealed, they play on
that and they weaponize that andthey sometimes even attack
those people.
So you have to be very careful.
I personally always hadindividuality, as I said before.
I always had identity.

(01:50:32):
But because I had somebrokenness in my family and
because I had lost a sibling, Iwas attracted to the sisterhood,
believing I was going to gain300000 plus sisters.
And I'm like, look, the cap isso real, because even the devil
can mask himself as an angel oflight.
You are not going to have300,000 plus 400,000, plus 500,

(01:50:53):
600,000 friends.
You are not.
You are not going to be likeliterally like wrecking your
brain with how many people youshould have in your wedding
party.
You're not.
Everybody thinks they're goingto change the game.
Everybody thinks it's going tobe different with them.
These organizations have beenaround since 1906, 1908, 1911,
1913, 1914, and so forth.

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You're not going to changeanything that hasn't been
changed in over a century.
You're not going to changeanything that hasn't been
changed in over a hundred years.
Don't stop it.
Like that's the whole crab inthe barrel mentality.
Every black person thinks thatthey're going to be like the
Messiah and it's like no, youcan't do anything unless you are
called by God.

(01:51:37):
Martin Luther King was powerfulbecause he was a disciple.
He was called by God.
That man was a spirit.
Malcolm X was a spirit.
You understand what I'm saying.
Like you, if you're just doingthings out of your ego or out of
your flesh, you are not calledby God.
You're not going to change thegame, it's going to stay the
same.
Okay, um, if you stand onbusiness, if you have any kind

(01:52:03):
of individuality, if you have amind of your own, you are going
to be a threat and you are notgoing to fit in with these
organizations, trust me.
I thought that I could bring myindividuality, my own mindset,
my, um, you know my confidence.
No, they hated it.
Let me tell you, I was pledgedthe hardest.
Uh, fake pledge, I'm going tojust call it.

(01:52:25):
I was.
I w.
I got it the hardest.
Okay, and the reason I got itthe hardest was because they
said I had a confidence that noone else had.
I had a confidence that theyhad never seen before.
And what that confidence is isthat I did not have the spirit
of Delta, sigma, theta.
I had the spirit of Yahweh.
I don't have confidence, I haveconfidence.
That's the difference.
And I don't know where it comesfrom either.

(01:52:47):
Sure, this doesn't come from myfamily system.
It comes from above, and theycouldn't understand it, because
most of the people that pledgeare insecure women, they're
insecure, men, they're insecure,and so they're trying to find
themselves and they're believingthat they're going to have this
backing, they're going to havethis support.
No, you are not.

(01:53:08):
I can't stress that enough.
You're going to have thissupport.
No, you are not.
I can't stress that enough,you're not.
And so that is it.
That's all I can say.
Because I had confidence andbecause I had my own mindset and
plus, think about it I had amaster's in psychology at the

(01:53:30):
time when I joined, so I wasalready psychologically minded.
So I worked that whole processbecause I was like wait a minute
, hold up.
I studied the mind, I'm aboutto work this, and I worked it,
honey.
Okay, and let me tell you, theydid not like that at all.
They actually disliked everypsych person, because there was
three people on my line and onewas graduating with her

(01:53:52):
doctorate in psych.
She was young too, she was like26 or something, one of those
people that graduated fromundergrad early, but she was
like really young and yeah, Ithink she was going to be
graduating and head into herpostdoc or something.
And then there was anotherperson that was a doctoral
student, a psychology doctoralstudent, and then I had my

(01:54:14):
master's and I was going to beheading into the doctoral level.
As I made the connection Likehuh, the three people that they
can't stand the most are thepsychologically minded people.
You know so, like, if you're apsych person, they really ain't
going to like you becausethey're going to be like oh hell

(01:54:36):
, no, because you can think.
You understand all the mindgames we're playing Like.
You're a thinker, you havedepth to you.
You're a thinker, you know howto think.
You know how to think.
You know how to dream a dream.
You're a critical thinker, youlove mental exercise.

(01:55:02):
So they don't like people likethat.
They like people that aredisassociated and kind of like
not in their right mind.
I promise when you're pledgingyou're not in your right mind.
I promise you have to like sortof be disassociated to some
extent.
I remember like being soirritable during that time, like
I was like when I think aboutit, I was not myself Like it's
almost like a spirit comes overyou.
So now I'm really having asomatic reaction right now and I

(01:55:27):
think that I'm like feelingsomething because, like, my
heart rate has gone up very high.
So I must be like really havinga somatic reaction right now
and I think that I'm likefeeling something because, like,
my heart rate has gone up veryhigh.
So I must be like really havingan experience right now.
All I can say is that if theseorganizations are so innocent
and they're so positive, thenwhy does my entire life have to

(01:55:50):
revolve around it?
Who cares?
If you joined a Greekorganization, why does it have
to surround you like surroundsound?
Why does it have to bleed out?
Like there are people wholiterally say I bleed blue and
white, or I bleed red and white,or I bleed purple and gold.
That or they'll say like andwhite, or I bleed purple and

(01:56:12):
gold, or they'll say I rememberwhen I was a part of the
organization people would belike when did you cross?
And I would literally tell themthe year I was born and they
thought it was the funniestthing.
And when I thought about it,lord God, I repent for that.
I can't believe I said thatstuff, but it was cute and
clever.
Then it was a jingle and welove jingles, and so people say
all kinds of things and it'slike, if it's just the
organization, why do you have tobleed it and notice that when

(01:56:33):
you're a part of any otherorganization, you're a member of
the Red Cross.
When you're a member of thePsychological Association, when
you're a member of the HomelessCoalition, when you're a member
of anything else, you're just amember, right.

(01:56:53):
But when you're a part of theseorganizations, you're just a
member, right.
But when you're a part of theseorganizations, you're not
considered to be a member.
You're considered to be theorganization, so you're not a
member of.
You are the organization.
Demonic, demonic and also too.
People have so many ways oflike, being divisive, because
just because you join theorganization does not mean that
you're going to automatically beconsidered.
You know this, this sisterperson, like, no, like, there's

(01:57:18):
so many degrees to it, like, anddegrees rather to it.
Um, there's a such thing calleddeference, where somebody who
came before you can talk to youlike you're a pissant, because
they came before you.
So if a person crossed 10 yearsbefore you, even if they're
younger than you, they can talkdown to you.
You're supposed to bow down andyield to these people that came

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before you.
Even if they're beingdisrespectful, you can't stand
up to them.
Also, there's a such thingcalled Neo.
So when you first cross, eventhough you're part of the
organization, people still kindof haze you up and like kind of
rough you up a little bitbecause you're considered the
rookie.
If you cross grad chapterversus undergrad, grad chapter
is always considered paper Like,even if, like it's so bad that

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they're starting to even pledgegrad chapters because people
have disrespected them so badlyand have considered them to not
be a real member that nowthey're starting to even pledge
in grad chapters.
But basically grad chapters areconsidered to be paper and so
every grad chapter is namedafter the city.

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And I remember the grad chapterthat I had pledged in.
It was called New Sigma andthis was at one time.
Grad chapters had Greek names,but then they changed it to the
city.
So, whatever city Brooklyn,your Brooklyn Alumni Association
, or you're the Los AngelesAlumni Association, or you are

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the Texas Houston AlumniAssociation.
So that's how it is Right.
So, um, basically people knowif you pledge an undergrad or
graduate chapter just on thestrength of that.
So the chapter I pledged withwith was, um, I think the one of
the founders of Delta SigmaTheta her niece was one of the

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founding members of the chapterand so basically it was called
New Sigma and they changed thename to match the city and I had
said when I had first crossed,I was kind of saying New Sigma,
you know.
And then, and I got like hemmedup for that, like you would
have thought I had stole moneyfrom someone, they were like I

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got hemmed up.
I got so hemmed up and it waslike, oh my God, I was just
saying it in gist, I mean, itwas just fun.
We don't take Delta Sigma Thetain gist.
We don't play with Delta SigmaTheta.
I'm like calm down, this is notthat deep, and that's the thing
.
You can't have that attitude.
You can't have that attitude.
If it's not that deep, youcannot have that attitude.
They want you to feel like thisis your life, like like

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whatever organization you're apart of, it is your life and
that's that's.
That is playing God and that isbeing an idol in my life and
there are no idols before me.
There are no other masters.
You cannot serve two masters.
You got to pick one.
Either you, you're gonna be ofgod or you're gonna be of greek,
and that's just it.
It's greek, it's it's reallylike god versus greek.

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I hate to say that, but itreally is it.
You cannot do both.
You can't.
It's impossible.
That's why when I saw likepastor jamal brian wearing his
like greek letters at um on oneof his sermons, I was like, yeah
, that told me everything Ineeded to know.
Like, no, you did not.

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No, you did not do that Whilepreaching a sermon.
No, you did not.
You are not going to get thatundeniable support that you
think you are.
For some, yes, some peoplereally take on the identity of
the organization and they havethat, you know, that head Negro
in charge attitude.
I hate to say, but that's theattitude they have, so it really

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works for them.
Some people really do marrypeople from the fraternities and
from the sororities.
There are people they call itlike when Delta and the Q marry,
they call it common love.
When Alpha and the AKA marry,they call it first love, first
family love, or whatever.
And when a Zeta and Sigma marry.
They call themselves the realfirst, you know, because they,

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the Zetas, were created by theSigmas.
They're the only official intheir bylaws um, fraternity and
sorority, sister and brother.
Everyone else is just kind oflike, they just kind of have a
agreement, but it's not in thebylaws.
So, you know, there are somepeople that actually have

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success in the organization.
Um, it's just that they had togive their life over to satan in
order to do it.
They literally traded theirsoul for it.
Um, because if you become theidentity of something that god
did not create you to be theidentity of, then you've made a
deal with satan.
That's period.
God didn't create you as adelta, a greek person, uh, this

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or that.
I always say, hey, being apsychologist being, that's a
part of me.
That is not my full identity.
My full identity is my spirit,and so my, my soul, my essence,
right?
So when somebody is claiming anessence that is not given to
them by God, that is is Satan.
It's almost like gaining theworld to lose your soul, and so,

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um, I found a lot of the womenin DST to be like very HBIC.
It was like um head, you know.
You know that term head beingcharged.
Um, I wasn't used to that.
I wasn't used to feeling likesomebody's going to run my shoes
over and I've been running myown shoes overs.
You know, at the time, like Isaid, I was in my 20s and it's
like I crossed in 2011.

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And so, to me, it was like veryweird for me to be, like
answering to a woman and Iliterally ran my own shoes over
my whole life.
I was just like this is weird,doesn't make sense.
I didn't agree with it at all.
I did not agree with it at all,so I decided to do away with it

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.
You know, I was like this isnot it.
Nobody is running my shoes overand nobody the head of me.
I don't follow no woman.
I don't follow no man.
I am my own, you know man andyou know, and that's it.
I don't ask the head of me.
I don't follow no woman.
I don't follow no man.
I am my own, you know man andyou know, and that's it.
I don't ask people to follow meeither.
It's.
It's about being in sync andbeing in harmony and
complimenting one another.
It's not about me being incharge of you or you being in
charge of me.
So I mean, you know for to meto be a part of this

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organization.
All of a sudden, and peopleboss, trying to boss me around
telling me how I need to dothings, how I need to act.
I'm like what and that'sanother thing too is they make
you feel like poop.
They make you feel like poop.
They literally make you feellike you didn't have anything
going for yourself until youbecame part of the organization.

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They make you feel like you donot matter.
They make you feel like youdidn't know how to wash your own
butt and feed yourself untilyou became part of the
organization.
It's so arrogant, sonarcissistic.
And they also like talk to youlike you're nothing.
Because you got to understandyou're surrounded.
You're going to be in the.
If you are to be a part ofthese organizations, you will be

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surrounded by doctors, theseorganizations.
You will be surrounded bydoctors, lawyers, engineers,
scientists.
There's no one sticks out, noone stands out because of their
success.
So like no one cares about yournew book that came out and this
blew me no one cares about yournew book that came out.
No one cares about the programyou started.
No one cares about yourorganization.
No one cares about your degrees.

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It's like, unless you're like acelebrity, no one cares.
You know, no one cares.
And so, like, they do that onpurpose.
So like, if you think that, oh,you're going to be joining
these organizations and all of asudden you're going to have
these books, these peopleshowing up to all your book
signings, oh, you're going tohave all these clients coming

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through because they're going tobe referring you, oh, this is
going to happen, that is goingto happen.
Oh, you fooling yourselfbecause that is not going to
happen, Like it is not, like youwill literally be searching
through your phone you need helpwith something, if you need
help with money, if you needhelp with moving, if you need
help with a foreclosure, if youneed support if you're going

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through something, if you're,you know, grieving, if you know
if you're needing a new job, youliterally be scrolling through.
Now, some, now some people doget a lot of connections that
are part of the organization.
A lot of people.
They've gotten jobs, they'vegotten all kinds of things.
Don't get me wrong.
You know, but do you really?
Because I know somebody whotold me he would never leave

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Omega Psi Phi because he got his.
He couldn't get a job aftercollege and it was the Omegas
that helped him get a job.
So he would never leave Q PsiPhi.
And I was thinking to myself soare you telling me?
I'm like do you believe in God?
He said yeah, I said so you'retelling me, if the Q PciFi
hadn't have been a resource foryou to get a job, you wouldn't

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have a job.
But you believe in God?
Is that what you're telling me?
You're telling me that if ithad not been for them, you
wouldn't have never had a job.
But yeah, we don't give thatkind of homage to the
organizations that we work for.
We don't say wow, if it wasn'tfor Indeedcom, if it wasn't for
Monstercom, if it wasn't forLinkedIn, I wouldn't have never

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gotten this job.
It's like, but yet you get aconnection through an
organization and then the wholeworld just oh my God, everything
revolves around thatorganization.
It's like some people havegotten married and they found
partners, and it's like so areyou telling me that you wouldn't
have never gotten married orfound a partner if it wasn't for
the organization?
That's the problem I have withthe organizations.

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It's not divine intervention,it's literally like you are
create, making a earthlydecision to connect in the flesh
with other people who are alsoin their flesh.
It is not divine interventionat all.
So that means that if you'renot a part of those
organizations, you will not meetthose people in those
organizations.
It's like they don't even exist.
I'm going to tell you right nowwhen I was a part of the

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organization, there was eventsthat I was invited to.
There were parties I wasinvited to, there were places I
went and I did not even knowthat it was like Greek, like I
remember I was talking to likesome random person and I was
like telling them about this dayparty that they used to have on
Sundays in LA and they werelike what are you talking about?
I was like you never heard ofthis.
They were like no, and I wasthinking to myself, oh my God,

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everybody there was Greek.
So it's like it's like being apart of a cult, like everything
you do is like nothing butGreeks involved.
And I remember when I finallyleft the organization right,
this was before anybody knew.
This was when me, this was justbetween God and I.
This was a spiritual thing.
I promise you.
It was a spirit that left mebecause I had missed out on so

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many opportunities being a partof this organization.
I was delayed in my doctoralprogram.
I was delayed in everything inmy life because of this
organization, and that's whatcaused a lot of anger in my life
, which I had to like, really,really forgive.
And right now my heart rate isup again.
So I think I'm reliving thatexperience.

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I remember when a spirit liftedfrom me and when I tell you
that everything moving forwardafter I made that decision to
leave changed.
It was like I never got invitedto anything that was Greek
oriented anymore.
No one knew where I was, no oneknew, no one could find me.
I couldn't find anyone, notthat I was looking.
It's literally a realm, it's aspiritual realm.

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Like they exist in their ownbubble.
Like they exist in their ownbubble.
No, and you know, another thingthat I found to be funny is
that they make it seem likethese organizations are so
omnipresent.
Isn't God omnipresent?
But yet the organization triesto be omnipresent in your life.
That's why the Bible says youcan't serve two masters.
You cannot tell me.
This stuff is not spiritual.

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How is this omnipresent?
How is this thing flooded myentire life?
But God is the omnipresent.
How is this?
This thing flooded my entirelife.
But God is the omnipresentRight.
Let me tell you how spiritualthis is Like.
It's like it was almost likeeverything just just clicked and

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connected when I finally left.
Just clicked and connected whenI finally left and that's
another thing too is the peoplethat disrespect you, or the
people that disrespected youwhen you were trying to get
connected to the organization,when you were going through your
pledge process.
They will see you again and letme tell you, these spirits

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haunt you.
You will be pulling up in agrocery store parking lot and
they'll be pulling up right atthe same time.
It'll just all be coincidental,but I remember when I was going
through my denouncing phase, Iwas warned that this stuff would
happen, that you will havedreams that they'll suddenly
show up at places they weren'tsupposed to be at.
You'll get emails.

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Show up at places they weren'tsupposed to be at.
You'll get emails.
All of a sudden they'll becomeall these loving, nice people
that were never nice and lovingto you.
And let me tell you why is itthat now that I'm not a part of
the organization, I get theutmost respect, but when I was
in the organization, I was beingbullied, I was being
intimidated.
Well, I don't really scareeasily, but they were trying to

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provoke intimidation.
You know, I was gettingdisrespected, I was getting
shunned, I was, I was beingtreated like, like I'm, like
what I am, that girl, what Ididn't.
I felt I feel more respect anddignity in my life after leaving
the organization than when Iwas in the organization.
And not only that, but onething is that no one ever

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believed I was a DST.
No one ever believed it, likepeople would like always try to
guess what I, what organizationI was a part of, and people
always said AK and I would belike what.
I found it to be offensive, youknow, because everybody is so
gun-holed about theirorganization.
But I thought it was an insultuntil I started asking people
and they were like oh yeah, it'sthe way you carry yourself, oh,

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you're light-skinned, oh you'repretty, oh, um, you know you're
sophisticated, you're classy,you're non-threatening.
And I was like what?
And I'm like, so then, what dothey see Deltas as?
And I think it's just likethose are like considered to be
like androgynous women, likeaggressive tomboys, like you
know, like, oh, they're liketomboys, they can change a tire

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and then they can turn aroundand put on some red heels and
some red lipstick.
They're like pit bulls withlipstick and that just didn't
resonate with me.
I didn't.
I just I was much more femininethan that and I have much more
of a delicacy about me and itdidn't fit.
And so no one ever thought Iwas a part of the organization.
I mean, I remember there was aGreek event, hbcu Greek event
that we had years ago and Iattended and I had on my HBCU

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colors, which was hunter, grainand gold.
And this AKA comes up to me hey, sarah, and like, gives me a
kiss on the cheek and I'm like,and then she, and then, and then
we were like looking at her andlike we see her with AKs.
And I was like you know, I'mnot a K, right, she goes.
Oh, oh, my God, I thought youwere one of us and I was like

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but I have a hundred green.
And she was like well, girl,you know, you look like us, you
know kind of thing.
And I was like, and she justwas smiling at me the whole, the
whole event.
She was just like.
It was like she wanted to be myfriend or something and I was
just like that is so funny, andthen I actually got along better
with them.
So I particularly had a problemwith the division.
I had a problem with the oh, wedon't get along with this group

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, we don't get along with thatgroup.
We don't sit with those girls.
We don't sit with them like, oh, we don't marry Q's, we only
marry alphas.
We don't talk to the AK's likethat.
They're not us.
You know, we're every woman.
We're like powerful women,we're movers and shakers and
devastating divas.

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They're like little prissy,weak.
You know, women that you canrun over Like it was, just like
stupid.
I didn't mean, oh, my god,don't talk to Zetas.
Oh, don't sit with the Sigmas,are you, are, they're gross,
don't even look in the directionof Iota.
I didn't like that.
I like I get along witheveryone.
So I I'm like a good spirit isa good spirit, I don't care what
it is.
I got along very well with thenoobs, because noobs ran the the
yard.
Well, I don't want to say ranthe yard, but they were really

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big at Norfolk State.
So were were the Qs, so werethe alphas.
But the noobs loved me.
They loved me.
They thought that I was like agirl version of them.
That's what they would alwayssay.
The AKs were mostly psychologymajors at Norfolk State, so a
lot of my classmates were a partof the organization.
So they took a liking to me andthey would be like you know,

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why don't you come?
You know, with us, why don'tyou pledge us?
You know, why don't you come toone of our events?
We want to.
You know, they would always.
They were always trying toinvite me places and kind of
trying to initiate me, but I wasjust like, nah, I'm not
interested, but, um, I, just I.
I didn't think I was that kindof girl.

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I didn't think that what theystood for at the time or
whatever their stereotypes wereresonated with me.
Um, as I got older, I realizedthat although, um, I am educated
and I am, I do have somestrength, um, I do have a lot of
class and femininity andsophistication as well, but, um,
there are traits that were, uh,that deltas have, that I also
connect with as well.
I just think that I can be alady and stand for something.
I don't have to act like a manor a boy, a girl version of the
Q side, the Q, the Q, q dog inorder to, to make a stance, and

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so I found it to be likeextraordinarily like divisive.
Like, oh, you know, why are youso cool with the noobs?
We don't talk to them.
They're, they're not.
They're not our type, you know.
And it's just like, excuse me,am I grown?
And yeah, it was just.

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It was just way too much, toomany rules, way too many rules.
There are a lot of people inthese Greek organizations that
sleep with one another's man andone another's women.
I remember one of the girlsthat I pledged with, two of the

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girls right.
As a matter of fact, one of thegirls I pledged with was
married and her husband sleptwith our line sister, slept with
her, which means that that girlknew her line sister.
The one that I pledged with shepledged with knew that that was
her husband.
She knew, and he knew too.

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And I'm like, well, and somepeople may say, well, that
doesn't have anything to do withthe organization.
That's the people.
You're right.
But it's like keeping yourenemies closer.
That's the point.
It's like you, literally, aregiving the key to Satan.

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Like Satan, come on in and eat.
You know, mi casa es su casa,make yourself at home.
No, it's like keeping yourenemies closer.
It's like, yeah, maybe her, hey, her husband was scandalous,
and so was the girl who cheatedwith her husband, the mistress.
Yes, both scandalous, we canagree on that.
However, it was almost like byher being a part of the
organization.
It was almost like making the,the, the, the, the.

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It was like almost making theplatform comfortable.
It's like you gave them a wayin it's it.
Instead of it being some personfrom off the street, it was her
line sister, which is prettyhurtful, pretty hurtful sister,

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which is pretty hurtful, prettyhurtful.
Um, I knew I used to go outwith a guy who told me that he
was dating a girl and, um, heinvited her over and some of his
frat brothers, and he went tothe store to get some drinks and
ice and he came back and theywere running a train on her in
the kitchen.
First thing that came to mymind is was she sexually
assaulted?
Um, however, he refused to toeven see that part of it.
He was like nope, she's a hoe,you know so.

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But the point I'm trying tomake is that people literally
will steal your man, they willsteal your girlfriend, they,
they have cheated with people'shusbands, stole.
I mean, it's like really,really messy.
It's extraordinarily messy.
Also, too, I don't believe infornication, so for me it was
just like it was just a lotgoing on and I wasn't into that

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and I was like you know what?
I'm a girl, I think I'm a.
I'm a, I'm God's girl.
I don't think this is the place.
For me, it's literally like theSatan's cave.
It's like reality TV.
It is so much drama you wouldnot believe it.
It's like being in high schoolall over again.
So much drama.
There's a lot of stereotypesthat's connected to the

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organizations, like, for example, a lot of people think that
Greek organizations are like thegirls going wild and they think
that they're like whiteorganizations and there is a
difference between the blackGreeks and the white Greeks.
There is a difference, whereasfor white Greeks it's more so
about just partying and wildingout and having a Greek house and
everything, and then theydisconnect from it after

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undergrad, whereas with theblack Greeks they also do the
same thing, um, they have fun,they party and everything, but
it's more.
It's more uniform, um, it'smore um controlled.
There's like principles andthat that they, that the
organization, stand for, um, andthen there's also like that

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graduate component, whereas youcan carry on the work of the
organization after theorganization I'm sorry, after
graduating from undergrad, andyou know there is some community
service component to it,whereas I don't really think too
many white organizations dothat.
It's more so about fun andhanging out and wilding out.

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Um, so people yeah, people willassume certain things about you
because you're a sorority girl,they'll assume that you're
sleeping around or they'llassume you're a party girl or
they'll assume all these thingsthat did not resonate with me,
because I'm none of those things.
But that's what people assumeabout you that you partied, you

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drunk, you did drugs, you werelike the girl's going wild, and
it's like no, I wasn't.
Any of those things.
Never, have, never will be.
I'm not the type of person thatgoes to Vegas and I become a
different person.
No, I'm the same person hereright now that I am when I go to
Vegas.
I'm solid.
I'm solid all the way through,and so also another thing about

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being a part of the organizationis that, like I said prior, is
that they treat you as if, likeyou, didn't have a sense of self
before joining the organization.
They literally will talk to youlike you are, like nothing,
like all of a sudden your hairis criticized, your lipstick,

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your makeup, the clothes thatyou wear.
I remember this one of thegirls that I pledged with.
She had we went to an event andshe had on some really short
shirts and they like pulled herto the side like, uh-uh, delta,
sigma, theta women don't wearthose kind of shorts, we don't
wear short shorts.
And she it was just like a cuteoutfit and and that's not how
she was carrying herself all thetime it was just a really cute

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outfit.
It wasn't something that shedid on a regular, but even if
she did, I mean she's been a 20something at the time.
Like I said, she was 20.
It's like she'd been a 20something her whole life and
then, all of a sudden, now sheneeds like lessons on on dress
code.
I mean, um, there are women whohave had their necklaces ripped
off because they were they were, um, at a bar while wearing

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Greek uh, neck, greek letterneck necklaces or pearls or
things like that.
I've I've heard stories ofpeople getting their necklaces
ripped off, their watches rippedoff, their purses snatched,
just because the person didn'tlike the way they were behaving
out in public.
Oh, you're sitting at a bar,you're not supposed to be
wearing Greek letters at a bar.
You're not supposed to bewearing pearls while sitting at

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a bar.
You're not supposed to beengaging in this kind of
behavior while wearing Greekletters, like.
I've heard all kinds of thingswhich classifies as assault, and
that's the thing.
When you join theseorganizations, all of a sudden,
rules, laws, boundaries,standards don't matter.
It's like you're a part of theorganization.
None of that stuff matters.
No, I'm sorry, boundaries andstandards always matter.

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I even know of a Delta who hasshe's built like a brick house,
small ways, big bottom, and Ithink she was always being
criticized for how tight herclothes were.
They had a problem with howtight fitting her clothes were
and I'm like okay.
And she pledged in, like herthirties or late thirties maybe.

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So I'm like, okay, she's been a30 something her whole life and
now all of a sudden, she needsto change how tight-fitting her
clothes are.
Um, I remember being at achapter meeting one time and, um
, one of the deltas coming up tome and saying like um, I say
this with love, but the pantsthat you're wearing are not
appropriate for a chaptermeeting.
This is a professional businessattire meeting.

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And then I'm looking at her,like I will wear this to work,
get out of my face, but like,that's how it is, like they're.
People will use theorganization to manipulate so
many things.
Because if somebody does notlike you, if they don't like the
way you look, if they thinkyou're too pretty, too feminine,
too light, too dark, too, yourhair's too short, your hair is
too long, you get all the guys,all the guys their boy,

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ex-boyfriend would pursue you orwhatever the case is.
You're smarter than them.
You are the top of the class.
Whatever their issue is, you'refrom a particular part of the
world, they're not from you.
Think you're better, you haveconfidence they don't have.
They will use that organizationto like, basically harass you.
So they'll just be harsh withyou.
They'll start rumors about you.
They may be be harsh with you.

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They'll start rumors about you.
They may be very aggressivewith you, and then they'll make
it seem like oh, I'm doing thisin the name of Delta or the name
of AKA, or the name of Zeta PhiBeta, but it's really because
they're hating, they'redisliking you.
Guys who have never, guys whohave a type, be it, whatever
that type is.
If they have had troublesgetting that type in the past.
Now they're part of thesorority and the fraternity I
mean, I'm sorry, they're part ofthe fraternity and so now they
have access to those women theyprobably never had access to and

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they, they can be very, veryentitled and very narcissistic
and very pushy and pushthemselves on you because now
they have, um, this sourcethat's backing them up, like,
yeah, you know, look at theseletters, yeah, give me your
number.
Look at these letters, look atthese, look at these brands.
Yeah, give me, give me, um,some sex.
It's like crazy how peoplethink like I remember guys, um

(02:24:04):
so-called frat brothers, umgiving me hugs, and they were
like hugging me for way too long.
And I'm like, can you pleasestop?
Like this is uncomfortable, orlike giving me kisses on the
cheek.
I'm like, please don't do thatlike, and it's like, but we're
we're, we're supposed to bebrother and sister.
And it's like, yeah, and evenif you were my real brother and
sister, I have a right to sayplease don't do that.
And that's the thing about theorganizations I did not like is

(02:24:25):
that they act as if, likeboundaries are not sisterly or
brotherly.
And I'm like, well, that'swrong to think that, because
you're so-called family withsomeone, that you can't have
standards and boundaries andthat you're supposed to be an
enmeshment.
You know and that's funny howwe learn about that in family
systems.
Enmeshment, confluence, havinga low level of individuation

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that's what all of theseorganizations are about.
It's about, first of all,making that Greek God, your God,
being flooded and having thisdeity, this organization or
whatever it stands for, beomnipresent in your life, when
only God is omnipresent.
Having this enmeshment withthis organization and the

(02:25:10):
principles that it stands for,and confluence in a low level of
individuation If that's whatyou represent, then they're for
you, but that's not what Irepresent.
That's like giving my life overto a deity.
So, um, when you cross thesands is what they call it All

(02:25:39):
of a sudden, magically,everything you do represents the
organization that's and Ialways wonder why do people like
?
I've seen, I have witnessedpeople in in the Olympics and as
soon as they win the race theythrow up the pyramid.
I have, I have witnessed, I wasat a concert and I was.
It was boys to men performingand Wanya threw up the hooks.

(02:25:59):
And I'm like is that Wanya?
I know Wanya's 1980s grouphaving.
I know he is not throwing upsome hooks.
The hooks need to be throwinghim up, not he throw up the
hooks.
And that's how I always feltthe pyramid should have been
throwing me up, not me throw upthe pyramid.
That's how I felt like I'm avibe, you know.
And so I was like wait a minute, is that why you ain't throwing

(02:26:22):
up the hooks?
I've seen Shaq throw up thehooks, steve Harvey, and I'm
like why are these peoplethrowing up the hooks?
Even, um, kamala Harris, ourfirst vice vice, first woman
vice president of the UnitedStates, when she crawled, when
she became the elected vicewoman president, she was like
throwing up her aka pinkies andI'm like why is she giving props

(02:26:45):
to them?
And that's what I realized isthat these Greek gods, you have
to pay homage to them.
If you're a part of gods, youhave to pay homage to them.
If you're a part of theseorganizations, you have to pay
homage to the Greek gods.
So when you do something greatin life, the Greek gods want you
to pay homage to them.
And I always had a problem withthat.
I want my paying homage tosomething that had nothing to do

(02:27:07):
with who, the making of me, Ipaying homage to something that
had nothing to do with who, themaking of me, you know it's.
It's crazy that you have tohonor the Greek God or like or,
or those.
Those spirits will attack youand they'll attack you through
people.
All of a sudden, people willstart, you know, being very
intense and aggressive with you.
For example, I remember umgoing to homecoming with one of

(02:27:28):
the girls from my sorority thesorority I was a part of and one
of the girls was asking why Iwasn't wearing paraphernalia.
And she really had a problemwith the fact that I wasn't
wearing paraphernalia.
And I was like, well, becauseI'm a fashionista, I like to
dress and wear my own stuff.

(02:27:49):
And she was like, but why areyou not wearing paraphernalia?
How can people recognize you ifyou're not wearing
paraphernalia?
And so that, right, there iswhat I mean by that Greek God
that represents those sororitiesand fraternities.
That's a spirit, that's analtar, and when you don't honor

(02:28:11):
that altar and when you're notworshiping that altar, that they
, that the spirit, will comethrough others and it will
attack you.
So, like that girl, like, whyare you even noticing if
someone's wearing paraphernalia?
Why do you even care?
That is such a stupid thing tobe acknowledging in someone.
And then it's none of yourbusiness.
But the reason why she did thatwas because she, um, she, the

(02:28:38):
spirit, the spirit, that altar,that greek god, pretty much came
over her and she felt like sheneeded to say something.
And she felt like she needed tosay something Because I guess
me being my own person, isclassified as a threat and, like

(02:29:02):
I said, those Greek gods willattack you through people.
Grad chapters are not respected.
I'm going to just be honestwith you.
They're not respected.
I think that at the time when Icrossed um and, like I said, I
was in my late twenties orwhatever, so when I crossed it

(02:29:24):
was um, I mean, it was like somany of us that were young and
that they tried to get.
They tried their best to giveus a pledge process as much as
possible.
And because of the way I cameacross, maybe because I went to
HBCU a lot of people didn't know.
But they, grad chapters do notget respect.
They're considered paperautomatically and it's like the
only badge of honor is pledging.
So also, aks do not receiverespect because people consider

(02:29:48):
them to be paper, like, oh, youdidn't pledge anything, you're
so weak, you know.
And it's funny because, yeah,they would have lines like crazy
at Norfolk State.
I mean, it would be like wewould see a like rush notice on
the bulletin boards or whatever.
And then it would be like nextthing you know, two weeks later
they had like a group of 50women that were crossing.
We were like, didn't we justsee a, a rush letter on the

(02:30:11):
library window?
See, you know, it was just likefunny we were, we were laughing
about it.
All the time that they werethey were shooting out lines
like every three weeks and um,or every two weeks.
And everyone knows that if you,if you, if your process is that
short, you probably didn'tpledge, so um, but yeah, grad
chapters for the most part donot get respect.
They call them paper and alsothere's a term used called made.

(02:30:33):
So like they'll be like where,who made you?
Where was you made?
So basically, if you're a gradchapter, you wasn't made.
And if you were um play, if youpledged an undergrad, you were
most likely made.
And let me tell you the wordmade.
I have a problem with that word, cause made means like created
it.
And let me tell you the wordmade.
I have a problem with that wordbecause made means like created
.
It's like nobody made orcreated me.
So I had a problem with thelanguage.
I had a problem with like theorganization and what it stands

(02:30:55):
for and how they you know thechance, the wording it's like
very idle, it's spiritual one ofthe people in the organization
stating that she didn't respectsome other girl because they
pledged from the same chapter,but the chapter before them were

(02:31:16):
dropped and so they didn't.
The chapter that came afterthem didn't finish their process
.
So how can the new pledges havefinished their process if the
chapter?
I was like, oh my God, thisstuff never ends.
And then you have the EastCoast versus the west coast, and
the east coast versus themidwest, and the midwest versus
the west, the south, and it'slike, so people are also
classified by what coast.

(02:31:36):
So it's like, oh, you pledge onthe east coast, okay, you
pledge in the south, oh, youpledge in the midwest.
Oh, if you're from the west,you know.
It's like it's just, it's somuch, it's so many politics to

(02:31:58):
it, it's stupid, it never ends.
Um, one thing too is that it'sa gang, and I remember when I
used to work with the sheriff'sdepartment and I remember we I
was working with like the beyondscared straight program.
And I remember that they wouldalways hem the little teenagers
up and they would be like whyare you here?
And they would be like I wascaught graffiti in.
And they were like, what wereyou graffiti in?
And I was, I was graffiti in mygang and they were like, what's

(02:32:21):
the name of your gang?
And they were like, uh,whatever their gang was.
And then they would ask themlike what's your gang name?
And then the kid or would saywhat their gang name was.
And they were like, so you werecaught graffitiing a gang name,
a name that didn't evenrepresent yourself.
They were like you wererepresenting the organization
but you didn't representyourself.
And I would see the shifting ofthe eyes of like yeah, that
kind of doesn't make sense.

(02:32:42):
And I was thinking to myselfwhy is it any different for
Greek organizations?
You're representing them butyou're not representing yourself
.
You have a pledge name, becausewhen you get your your um greek
jacket, your pledge name is onthe green jacket and your number
, that's what those thoseletters on the jacket is.
It's the chapter, it's the,your greek name and it's your

(02:33:02):
letter.
I mean, I'm sorry, your number.
And so like, think about it.
That's branding, that'srepresenting something that
doesn't represent you.
Because if I look at like Ithink I don't even want to say
what the name they gave me wasbecause it's like I don't want
to like relive in theseexperiences, but nonetheless, if
I look at somebody and their,their line name is like little

(02:33:24):
little rascal, I don't know whatthat means.
Or frazzled, I don't know whatthat means.
Frazzled, I don't know whatthat means.
Or completion, I don't knowwhat that means.
Like I don't know what yournumber means.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what any of thatstuff means.
And that's because it's notsupposed to be for the public
eye.
It's supposed to be secret.
Everything you do is a secret.
Your, your mom can't know, yourdad can't know, your kids can't

(02:33:46):
know.
They also teach you to be like,very ostracized from the world.
So like, basically, you'reliving in this world and you
can't tell people anything, youcan't share the secrets, you
can't tell them.
This, like a lot of the stuff Isaid today, I only I.
I didn't say everything, but Isaid a lot.
Right, that would be consideredan abomination period, but I'm

(02:34:07):
trying to free people, okay.
Okay, so you're living in thisworld.
You know all these secrets andyou can't explain any of it to
anyone outside of theorganization, right?
Because they're GDIs and sothat creates separation and
division and a lot of peoplecan't connect with you.
That's why a lot of people losefriends, family members when
they cross.
A lot of people go throughdivorces because they all of a

(02:34:28):
sudden don't feel understood.
I've had people tell me thatthey were friends with people
and they crossed and the personnever spoke to them again, or
they started speakingdifferently, or they became
extraordinarily secretive, oryou know, but they teach you to
do that.
They kind of teach you to stoptalking to people Like they
don't get you, they don'tunderstand you, like you're a
Delta, now You're a Zeta Phi,beta, now You're a AKA.

(02:34:49):
You are what You're the lady ofpink and green.
You're an Ivy.
They don't get you.
You know they don't get it, youknow.
And so you just start believingthat stuff and then you start
separating yourself.
But you're really justisolating yourself, you know,
because those deities are tryingto recruit you into that realm
where God is not existing.

(02:35:11):
God does not rest in that realm, you know.
Um, it's a gang.
It is a gang Cause if you thinkabout it, with the Crips, they
have the sixties, the thirties,the um.
Trying to think about what theneighborhood I grew up in, it

(02:35:35):
was like I can't even think ofit right now.
But the Bloods they have the20s, they have the Pyrrhu, they
have their different sects,right, it's the same thing with
Greek organizations.
Like all the chapters don't getalong.
You have to um chat.
Certain chapters from certainschools they don't get along.
You have the alpha chapters,which are the first chapters.
I think they're better than anyother chapter because that's

(02:35:57):
where the founders pledge.
You have um, like, for example,in LA.
Like no one gets along with theLA chapter because they
consider them to be bougie.
And then people don't like theCompton chapter because they
think they're ghetto.
I mean then the Inglewoodchapter is because it's like
it's too much to keep up with.
It is like being a part of aprofessional gang.
You are a part of aprofessional gang when you join

(02:36:18):
these organizations and that ispoint blank and the period.
You are a part of aprofessional gang and and the
only reason why you're gettingaway with it is because it's an
organized gang.
You guys are professional,educated, you have jobs.
You don't fight.
No one's shooting anyone, noone's graffitiing on the walls.
You guys live in houses, drivenice cars.

(02:36:39):
It's still a professional gang.
It is.
It is a gang and, like I said,the organizations are very good
at choosing disciplined, decentmembers.
They are A lot of people arelegacies.
There are celebrities that havepledged, like I don't know Rudy
Huxable, I forget what her nameis, but she pledged that

(02:37:01):
Spellman, aretha Franklin, was adelta.
Like there's a lot ofcelebrities that are part of
these organizations and sothey're really good at choosing
decent members and so they dothat because they want to send
that message.
Like, look at us, we stroll sowell.
Look at us, we have celebrities.
That's a part of thisorganization.
Look how beautiful we are.
But hey, what looks like goldis not always gold.

(02:37:22):
You know, always remember, ifyou're part of these
organizations, you arerepresenting your, the
organization, not yourself.
It's all about wiping youridentity and replacing it with
the identity of an ordinance orthe organization, and I always
had a problem with that.
I, when I would stroll and Iwould throw up the pyramid and I

(02:37:44):
would, I would wear myparaphernalia.
I always felt like who am Irepresenting?
Cause it can't be the founders,like, okay, I'm representing
the founders.
I mean, like, what am Irepresenting?
Okay, the nine cardinal virtues.
I mean I kind of had a problemwith the fact that a lot of the
traits or the virtues that Deltastood for, I already had those

(02:38:05):
virtues within myself.
The ladylike mentality of AKs,I have that within myself too.
I love the ladylike, you know,looking in the mirror and
honoring this.
That you know, I love that.
That's great, but I also havethat within me as well.

(02:38:26):
And then it's like thesisterhood of the Zeta Phi Beta,
because they're known for beingthe most sisterly.
It's like I'm very sisterly,I'm a very, very good friend and
that's why I deserve goodfriends, because I'm a very good
friend.
And then the down to earthnessof the SG Rose and the Deltas.
It's like I can relate to thatas well.
So it's like I feel like I cansee it all in me.

(02:38:48):
And I had a problem withfeeling like I had to pledge
something to get permission tobe myself.
I don't need to pledge to docommunity service.
Look, I have a doctrine ofpsychology that is a community
service.
I don't have to get permissionto do that.
I don't need permission to beChristian-based.
I am Christian-based.

(02:39:09):
No-transcript out to me.

(02:39:37):
It's like a lot of these, these, these, uh, traits that people
have.
They naturally have thosetraits and so they're like
pledging these organizations toget permission for the trace
they already have.
If you feel like you're a manlyman and you stand for
brotherhood, manhood and allthat stuff, why do you need to
pledge QCY5?
Why do you need to pay money tobe what you are or to be

(02:40:00):
connected with these people thatyou are?
And some people might say, well, because you're going to be
surrounded with people who arelike you, not necessarily.
That's the thing.
You don't know the mentalhealth of these people who
you're pledging with and thesepeople who are part of the
organization.
There's no psychologicalassessment that's conducted.
There's no evaluation.
You don't know if they've beento therapy before.
You don't know anything.

(02:40:20):
It's like you're just dealingwith random people You're not
able to divide.
I only want people who arementally healthy, who've been to
therapy in my life.
No, you're sitting next topeople you don't know who you're
sitting next to.
You could be sitting next to asociopath.
You don't know who these peopleare.
And also, too, one of thethings I noticed when I pledged
is that I didn't know anythingabout anybody.
I didn't know.

(02:40:41):
I didn't know what anybodystood for, I didn't know what
anybody was about, I didn't knowanybody's childhood, I didn't
know anything.
And I was like, dang, how comeI don't you know?
Like how come nobody wants totalk about their childhood?
Every person I've ever knownthat was a part of Greek life.
They don't ever want to talkabout who they were before Greek
.
They don't ever want to talkabout their childhood.
They don't ever want to talkabout who they are.

(02:41:02):
And I always had a problem withthat, like, why do people not
want to talk about themselves?
And then it dawned on me like,oh, I get it, because it's like
a disassociation, a rebirth.
Oh, now you're a part of theorganization, you don't need to
know that stuff anymore.
And I had a problem with that.
And I started asking people whowere also denounced, like did
you know anything about yourbrother?

(02:41:23):
Did you know anything abouttheir childhood?
Did you know anything aboutyour sisters?
Did you know anything abouttheir childhood?
Did you know anything aboutyour big sister?
And everybody was like no.
And I was like oh, I get it.
So basically, the the wholepoint of the organization is
that you don't have identity.
It's all wiped away, likealmost as if you're getting a
deliverance.
The only thing that can wipeaway everything is being your

(02:41:45):
mind being renewed by Christbeing delivered.
So the organizations aremimicking Christ.
What they're doing is likethey're imitating the attributes
of Christ, they're imitatingthe spiritual law, but they're
eliminating God and pervertingit.
Because you can't say, oh, weare like Christ, and then you

(02:42:07):
pledge me or you hit me or youverbally abuse me or intimidate
me or get me terminated or sleepwith somebody that is my
husband.
You can't.
That's not God, that's notChristlike, and so it's so, and
that's what witchcraft really isand that's what new age is.
Is that they're, they'rebasically still in the spiritual
law and they're, they're,they're perverting it.
They're, they're, they'reliterally imitating the
scripture, but they'reperverting it and they're

(02:42:28):
eliminating God.
And that's what the Greekorganizations are.
They are imitating God, butthey're perverting it and
eliminating God.
You cannot eliminate the father, and so, basically, gosh, I
said so much today, wow, butyeah, that's what it's about.
You don't know who the peopleare to sit next to you because

(02:42:51):
they don't reveal themselves,they don't disclose, so you
could be sitting next to someonewho's extraordinarily insecure,
someone psychologicallymaladaptive, you know, or

(02:43:12):
arrested in their development,or you know, you just never know
mood disorder, bipolar, youjust never know.
Or borderline, you know.
So, and that's another thingtoo, is they don't want to hear
any of that psychological stufftoo.
So somebody could be likehaving a response or reaction
and and people might respond andyou could clearly like having a
response or reaction and andpeople might respond and you
could clearly see there'sborderline traits and like you

(02:43:33):
can't say that, you can't belike, I think, sister, sister,
sister, soldier, suffering froma borderline personality, you
can't say that because they'll,they'll be like, don't bring
that psychology stuff aroundhere, so they don't want to hear
anything about psychology andthey don't want, they definitely
don't want to hear anythingthat reminds them of Christ.
So like, basically, you're, youare to me, you're SOL If you

(02:43:55):
join these organizations,especially if you are of God and
you are a psychologist orpsychologically minded.
You are SOL because they do notwant to do anything that
creates harmony, because it'snot Christian based, you know.
So there are Christiansororities, which is crazy, but
at least they're honoring Yahweh, but these organizations are

(02:44:17):
not it, and I'm here to say thatI'm not going to ask for
permission to stand for thethings I already stand for, and
I hope this was really helpfulto you.
I finally got it all out.

(02:44:38):
I don't think I need to do apart two.
That's probably why this videois so long.
But hey, if you have the timeto take two and a half hours to
listen to this, do so.
I hope it was helpful to you.
Take two and a half hours tolisten to this, do so.
I hope it was helpful to you.
Like I said, I disclosed thespiritual and the psychological
piece of joining.
I can see why somebody would beattracted to all of these smart

(02:44:59):
, intelligent men and women andwanting to be a part of that
unison and being a part of likea clan and a group, but it's
really not what it's cracked upto be.
It's not what it appears, it'snot what it seems.
And if you're like in yourthirties or forties and you're
thinking about or fifties andyou're thinking about pledging a
grad chapter, it's just that'sa capital good luck, because

(02:45:21):
you're probably going to be tooold.
If you're emotionally mature,you're probably going to be too
emotionally mature for theprocess.
But, like I said, I try not tojudge, because at one time I
really wanted this, so I triedto put myself in the shoes of
somebody else who really wantsit.
But I am going to give you theagainst.
Ok, I am representing theagainst.
I represent the for when I wasa part of the organization, but

(02:45:45):
now I'm representing the against.
And so, with the for, youalready have, because if you
want to be a part of theseorganizations, or if you already
are a part of it, you alreadyhave are representing the four.
With the against, it is arepresentation of people who
have denounced from theorganization or were never a
part of the organizations anyway, aka GDI, Um.

(02:46:07):
So now you have the for andagainst and you can make a
proper decision.
All I can say is buyer beware,buyer beware, um, and, and just
buyer beware.
If you ever want to reach outto me and contact me, my email
address is in my in my is in mybio and you can contact me if

(02:46:30):
you need any help withdenouncing or if you have any
questions, because maybe you'reconsidering being a part of the
organization or if you just feellike it's just not for you but
you necessarily don't want todenounce, maybe you want to just
quietly walk away, or if youjust want to send me a thank you
, hey, whatever it is, you havemy email address and my bio and

(02:46:51):
my Instagram.
Okay, all right, see you later.

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